Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Grading Nintendo's 2024 - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

Thank You For The Support! Run of Show - - Start - Housekeeping - Tim’s Switch Lite OLED - Grading Nintendo’s 2024 - Ads - The Big Releases - Looking Ahead - Big Events - SuperC...hats Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Gamescast live for Monday, December 2nd, 2024. We're in the final month of the year. How does that make you feel, Blessing Adioia, Jr.? Well, right now I feel bad because I'm realizing that I wore an Xbox bomber jacket on a day where I'm going from a very PlayStation-focused KFD to go to Nintendo-focused game gamescast into a into a PlayStation-focused stream after this. It's all love, though. It is all love. The boxes are just boxes. we're just here playing video games.
Starting point is 00:00:38 We can all support everything at once. You know what I mean? Listen, I feel like, I have, I realize I was cleaning around my room this last weekend, the long weekend. And the amount of Xboxes I have in my room, the amount of boxes I have generally. Well, hold on, the amount of Xboxes you have in your room?
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yes. Because I store a lot of things under my bed in my closet, too. And so I have like an old, I had like old Xbox ones. Okay, okay, gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:03 So I have like my Xbox Series X connected to my monitor that I actually use. I have under my, the TV that I have in my room has a Xbox, um, Xbox one, I guess Xbox Series X,
Starting point is 00:01:15 Xbox 1X is under my TV and then I had like a much of old Xbox ones. Yeah. I thought you were, I thought you were pausing because you were going to correct blessing on the plural Xbox's being. You're right. Xbox. I heard about this.
Starting point is 00:01:29 No. I don't know. I'm on Greg side of this. That's fucked up. I don't like it. No. No. You don't like that stupid.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I don't like it. I don't like the pluralization of that. What do you like? I do like that I still have Joey's old Xbox 1X that she lent me after mine crapped out and it was like the gears of war edition so when you push the power button it like does like a weird sort of like
Starting point is 00:01:48 ice sound effect. Remember when they sent us the Taco Bell one and it made the gong sound when you turned out? Xbox is crazy man. Great marketing. Did you get new glasses? Huh? Did you get new glasses? I got a bunch of pairs just kind of lying around. Yeah. Okay. Weren't when I just want to cover up my eyes, Tim. When you want to cover your eyes? I don't want people looking at my eyes.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Okay, well, I'm looking straight into them right now. You know what I mean? They're looking at all shit now. Now they're hidden everybody. Remember everyone, this is the kind of funny games cast. Each and every weekday, we get together to talk all about video games, whether it's reviews, previews, or retrospective lookbacks on the year, just like we're doing right now. The last couple of weeks, we had Bless and Greg do a fun little semi-PSI-Love-you reunion
Starting point is 00:02:29 where they talked about grading the PlayStation 24 year. we had Mike and Paris do the little X-Cast reunion talking about Xbox last week. And now here we are with our fun makeshift Nintendo Squad talking all about Nintendo's 2024. If you want to be part of the show, please super chat in. Let us know what you would review Nintendo's 2024. What were the highs? What were the lows? Was there any surprises for you that you want us to talk about?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Please get those in and we'll get to them as we go. A little housekeeping for you. You already got a great episode of Kind of Funny Games Daily. That was Bless and Mike breaking down. Shoo Hey, leaving PlayStation and a whole bunch of other PlayStation stuff, including them going all out for their 30th anniversary, putting out a commercial.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It's my favorite type of thing, Andy. You just, let's get nostalgic and go back and have text on a screen with some emotional music playing and like getting back to video game moments. That's all I need in my life. It's an easy win. It's easy win.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And their first Blue Sky Post. Oh, is it really? Yeah. Wow. I went in on Blue Sky today for the first time I was, only following James Willems. Just by accident, I didn't even realize I followed him because it just happened. And then Joey called that out.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It was like, Tim, it's really funny. You only follow James Phillips. Leave it that way. I was boring because I got the notification 30 minutes ago that Tim Geddy's followed you back. So I just went in and I actually, what I did was I went to each of your pages and just kind of like went through who you're following. I'm just like, oh wow.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Y'all made this easy for me. Yeah, I might do that. I think to do that. So thank you for that. You're going to be enlightened being on blue sky. Because now that I've been on blue sky for a few weeks, I can't go back. I open up Twitter and I'm like, oh, this is the dark place. I go over there just to like, you know, call Grum's an idiot and stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Like, that's the only reason I go over there. I opened up threads on accident the other day. And I was like, oh, God. Fucking all bots over here. Oh, God, there's more people want to know what to do in San Francisco. Yeah, no, I was going to say, it's everybody being like, oh, what's the best artist from San Francisco? Oh, what's a good place to get food in San Francisco?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Oh, thirst trap. And I'm like, I got to get out of here. That's really rare. Yeah. Well, anyways, yeah, it's a blue sky, everybody. The stream after this is going to be Mike and Andy playing. Nothing, because it's going to be
Starting point is 00:04:41 me and Mike reacting to the IGN list of Top 100 PlayStation games. Oh, you're doing that out of the stream? Yep. We need time to break that down. Yeah, okay. And also, I didn't see a shit list on the schedule.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, so I was just like, we got to do this now. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Gotcha. And then, of course, if you're a kind of funny member, you can get the Greg Way today, and you'll be able to watch the live recording of the Kind of Funny podcast with Kevin Coelho making his return to
Starting point is 00:05:06 kind of funny talking all about his first couple weeks as a father. Still a terrifying sentence for me to say, but I'm excited to hear all about the fun details of that. Shout out to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs and Delaney Twining. Today we're brought to you by Aura Frames, but I'll tell you all about that later. But now we've got to get into it. The topic of the show. We're grading Nintendo's 2024.
Starting point is 00:05:30 for it. But before we do that, boys, I've been telling you for a while that your boy had a crazy idea in his head. I don't know. I was like I love the Nintendo Switch Light, but the screen doesn't have enough O's in the LED. What? No
Starting point is 00:05:46 no way. So even though Kevin Coelho was not with me, I installed a new screen. No way. On my Nintendo Switch Lights. What? So it is now a Nintendo Switch Lights, OLED edition. And it is amazing.
Starting point is 00:06:03 No way. How did you? Oh my God. Yeah, dude. Burn your fucking retinas, man. This thing's even brighter than the switch. What conjured you to do this and what was the process? Y'all, y'all, y'all can see this if you would like.
Starting point is 00:06:18 So, well, actually, let me see this real quick because what I want to say is, um, I did this myself. I totally had to unscrew it all and undo the microchips and shit. Why don't you got the blue one? This is the one they sent me a long time ago Nintendo back when it first came out And I did a perfect job getting it all done Except for this top part Oh don't worry, we don't look at that
Starting point is 00:06:41 I clipped it in just a little wrong So now it's like in sat a little, you see that? Dude, oh, it's so nice though Of the case, it's fine though, it's fine anyway There you go It's so nice though And then also you could just USB see that into your TV with H-TMI 5
Starting point is 00:06:55 See that recently? H-T-M-5 Or with turbo-H-DMI whatever the hell. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just goes straight into your TV. Oh, my, this is such a beautiful little device.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Look at this little sucker. What the fuck? This is crazy. So the switch, obviously, the switch fly was like, oh, you can't dock into your thing or whatever. But the newer HDMI turbo max five or whatever the hell they call it, if you just use B-C into HDMI, it just works. Oh, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And it charges the switch at the same time. Wait, how does that work? I'm actually not familiar with exactly what you're talking about. Because I know, so without going too far into this, too deep into tangents here. Taki Udon, T-A-K-I-U-D-O-D-O-D-O-N. Oh, my God. Has a company called R2,
Starting point is 00:07:46 and that is where you can get these different products that he puts out that are amazing that just allow you to do a whole bunch of different fun video game upgrades and things like that. A lot of retro-inspired, things like that, right? and so maybe like four months ago he put out a YouTube video just being like hey there's been a major breakthrough in
Starting point is 00:08:08 the OLED technology but also just understanding of the switchlight of like being able to open up a new stuff it just sounds like you're talking about something like a huge medical break cancer new breakthrough in the world of medicine it's going to be life changing for some people it is
Starting point is 00:08:28 oh talk you don't as the one who tweeted this out, Tim. Yes. He tweeted out, that's so funny because I, somebody in the chat was like, Andy explained more. I was like, oh, let me look this up. And it's this guy you're talking about. Talk of you done.
Starting point is 00:08:38 It's okay. tweeted out of November 29th, 1080P, H-DMI output on a stock switch light with Super 5 HDMI. Yes, you could charge a play at the same time. Super 5. See, I'm happy. I ask some questions here, Andy,
Starting point is 00:08:48 because this is where the tangier goes. The Super 5, that's what he's working on here. So it's like this, this OLED screen is called the Super something otherwise. Like, he has different products that he's working on to make the switch to a bunch of different things, including switching out to OLED screens. Get themes? No, not
Starting point is 00:09:03 quite that. That takes a lot of technology. Being able to do HGMI from a switchlight just straight to the TV. And then the other thing is overclocking a switch so you can make it run in 4K. What? It's going to explode. It's crazy stuff, y'all. There's some crazy stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:09:19 That's like Doc Oakh shit. That's what he was doing in Spider-Man too. So it gets progressively harder to do some of the more advanced stuff, but to just do a OLED screen replacement, this non-touch. That is one of the downsides of this thing. But there is a touch version. There was another breakthrough
Starting point is 00:09:35 plus. Oh my gosh. What in the world? This thing was about $50, which I was surprised. I thought it was going to be more than that. And that comes with the screen and an entire like toolkit for every tool you'll need. You be soldering? All the different screws. No soldering. But that's the thing. If I was trying to do the advanced HGMI
Starting point is 00:09:53 stuff, I would have to. At least I think. The tutorial was like an hour long to do the crazier one. with the touchscreen, and it was 20 minutes long to do the one I did. I've never saw it. I feel like I'd be good at it, though. I'm happy you're also somebody that judges whether or not you want to do things by how long the tutorial video is.
Starting point is 00:10:11 If I see one longer than 10 minutes, I'm like, it's not worth it. I was watching it. I'm like, you know what? I think I can do this. And if I destroy the switch, that's on me. Like, I will accept. And I was going to be honest with you guys. I was going to be like, I'm a bad person.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I'm only a halfway bad person because I almost gave up halfway through. They say it's very, very easy. and while it was, it was still very difficult for me. I cannot recommend this to any dumb-dums out there just like, oh, for sure, it's the easiest thing ever. It's not. It required a bit of force. There was a couple times I'm like, I'm about to crack this thing in fucking half.
Starting point is 00:10:43 So some things were a little less smooth than others, but the end of the day, I now have an OLED switchlight. And this thing is sick as hell, and I absolutely love it. So I'm very, very excited that that's an opportunity. But I wonder if Nintendo will ever do it themselves. Probably not. It seems like we're going to regress with the Switch. too. I think there's a zero, I think there's a 10% chance that that thing has OLED.
Starting point is 00:11:05 That it launches with OLED? Yeah. No, there's, there's, maybe like a secondary version, right? Because they have to have the version without the OLED. I still have a 10% hope that they, but I also don't think they do. Like we need to just start talking about OLED that it does not raise the price of these things that much. Just it seriously just does not. No, but it's, it's another market. It's another purchasing opportunity. Yeah. That's thing is they can. Yeah. You know, like why release that launch when a year later you can release a version that costs $50 more? And with recency in mind, after seeing the 240 or maybe 160p display that the little alarm clock, Alarmo has, like maybe we're going, maybe we are regressing in terms of technology because that thing is the most dog shit display I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It is real bad. But like on the flip side of that, one thing I am excited about is, yes, this display looks like garbage. but we are essentially getting an eight-year newer LCD screen. Yeah. So it's like one thing to kind of, you know, relax you and calm me down about,
Starting point is 00:12:05 man, there's probably not going to be any OLED is that we're going to get an eight-year newer version of an LCD screen. Well, I'm hoping talking about you on fixes the problem if Nintendo doesn't form me. Right off the rip? Oh my God, I would be there. He's there a day two.
Starting point is 00:12:17 There's been a major breakthrough, guys. We're here. We've cured it. But anyway, this thing is very, very cool, very excited about this. They offer it in like, all the different colors of the switch light. So that,
Starting point is 00:12:26 because like this, this little gray you see here, that's part of the screen too. Oh, that's cute. So it matches even the new, the Zelda one. It's all gold.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Oh, so you could have gotten that shit in blue too? A little bored. You didn't think about like mixing colors? Yeah, you fucked up too. That would have been cool. Gray and blue.
Starting point is 00:12:41 No, I was going to look weird. I'm, I'm basic when it comes to this stuff. There's been a big, um, kind of like divide in the like retro gaming community recently about what retro handheld should look like.
Starting point is 00:12:52 If they should look like, you know, sleek and modern and all black or all white or whatever, or if they should all be FAMI-Com themed or GameCube themed or colorful, because it's supposed to be part of the experience of it looking like an old-school gaming device. I'm firmly on the fucking minimalist side.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I'm a basic bit. I love when we have the options, though. Love the options. Trust me, this whole week of Black Friday voting, or not voting, of Black Friday shopping, right? And it's just Warrior 64 putting out a shit ton of links of all these cool retro handhelds. And it's like, I don't need any of these, but some of these, look really cool. The Aia Neo brand, whatever that is. And it's like, I need to hit up the homie
Starting point is 00:13:28 Bob Wolf and be like, look, I don't need one. But if you were to try to say, Andy, you should get one of these things or whatever. I got a games cast for you. Early 2025, prepare yourselves. You're getting the full Tim Getty's breakdown of him going way too deep into these things the last couple weeks. Okay. Oh, yeah, I got, I got answers. I'm going to give you an answer for horizontal and vertical. Oh, shoot. Right. So strap in. But that's not what we're talking about today. Today we're talking about what Nintendo's given us lately. 2024.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I broke this down. Y'all have to run a show here. I have a bunch of key events, notable releases, Nintendo Switch Online updates, and then Nintendo Direx for everything that they have announced this year. So just to give you guys some reference, because I know going into this that I have probably put in the most switch time this year compared to you guys.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Like I feel like just the game. games that were here spoke to me more than y'all. And I was just talking to you, blessed, you said that, like, you don't even, you're not even sure if you picked up your Switch this year. Yeah. You know what I mean? And, like, that's, I'm excited to have this conversation.
Starting point is 00:14:33 So I kind of want to start just top level with what you think of Nintendo's 2024, personally to you. Personally, it's one that, like, I'm not mad at 2024, but it definitely does feel like the least, like, blessing aimed Nintendo year that there's been in a very long time. Right? Like, I am surprised about the fact that it feels like I've not picked up my Switch much this year. But that's also because the games that they've been putting out feel like, I mean, we talked about this a lot to him. It feels like it is the horseman, right? The four horsemen. We're toward the end of the, it feels like we're very much at the end of the Nintendo Switch lifecycle. And the software speaking to that,
Starting point is 00:15:12 we got the Paper Mario, a thousand-year door remaster slash remake. That I guess I did pick that up, and I played a little bit of that and I enjoyed the time I had with it. You know, we got that. we got Mario versus Donkey Kong we did get Zelda that goes a wisdom which is a big one right but even those like those Zelda games don't necessarily speak to me as much as like the big 3D ones and so for me it's been kind of a
Starting point is 00:15:33 chill year I'm not mad at it but I'm also like yeah it didn't really speak to me as much Andy the best thing about Nintendo's 2024 was the Pokemon Nuzlock that kind of funny through like let's be real that's the best thing that
Starting point is 00:15:49 No, like I am very close to bless where I've barely picked up my switch. I played the shit out of Echoes of Wisdom for the first six hours, and then something immediately kind of came, you know, interrupting that experience. And I talked to Tim about, man, I have a lot of fights coming up. What should I be playing? And I was so close to taking my switch. I didn't want to have a whole lot of stuff on me. And I knew in my mind it was like, I have the switch and I want to play through Echoes of Wisdom
Starting point is 00:16:17 because I've really enjoyed my experience with Ego's of Wisdom. because I've really enjoyed my experience with Egos of Wisdom. If that shit was on my Steam Deck, it would have been a no-brainer. I would have played through that. But my Steam Deck had about five other games that I could have been putting in work for for the backlog. So the Steam Deck won the competition as to what's going to be in my backpack and the Switch stayed home. For the rest of Nintendo's 2024, it's been a lot of stuff that I just, has never really interested me anyway. Mario RPG stuff, or not Mario RPG, but Paper Mario, along with Brothership,
Starting point is 00:16:47 Two genres of two games that I've never really vived with anyway. And a lot of it for me has just been kind of waiting for the next thing. We are in that weird period where as such a techie like myself, and I played a decent amount of Mario Party over the break, and I loved it. Yeah, I forgot about Mario Party. Jamry is a great time. But holy shit, when that game loads up, I'm just like looking at it.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I'm like, dude, this is gorgeous. Like when Nintendo cooks visually, it is next level type shit. It looks so good. It's rendered beautifully. And you just kind of wish that everything else got that love. And now I'm just excited and even more stoked for whatever the next thing is going to be. You know what it is for me? Because I think Jamboree is the perfect example of a game that, like, came out on Switch this year.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I played it. I fucking love Jamboree. Probably my favorite Mario Party. Oh, actually, that's a, I got to think more about that of like Jamboree versus Super Mario Party or Mario Party superstars. But I think Jamboree I'm putting above it. I think it's easy to say it's the best new Mario Party. Yeah. Because superstars is the greatest hits type thing.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I think that's a really good. We're not superstars. No, you're right. Yes, superstars, yep. But I think that's also indicative of Mario Party Jamboree, probably like one of the best Nintendo games of the year for me, but also I think is less exciting because we've had so much Mario Party this generation. Like it feels like it's almost like it's,
Starting point is 00:18:04 it's hard to complain because I've gotten everything that I've wanted already at a Nintendo this generation. I've gotten, you know, two Zelda's. I've gotten my 3D Mario. I've gotten my Mario Card 8 deluxe, right? I've gotten like my Mario sports games. There's not really much more I can ask for for the Switch. And so this year, I think the releases are good for the fact that, yeah, we finally got
Starting point is 00:18:24 a Paper Mario 1,000 a year door remake, right? Like, we've gotten things that we've wanted, but it is, all right, cool. Like, it's, I feel like we're almost out of steam at this console. The one thing I will say, though, if I'm talking about my Nintendo game of the year, it's a game that's not on a Nintendo console. It's Pokemon TC Pocket. And I think that's in the equation. That's one that fucking, I put in probably some of the most.
Starting point is 00:18:45 hours I put into a game this year so far just in that so yeah I mean have you missed a day of opening packs like one or two yeah yeah I'm not I think I maybe did because of the weird trip stuff but like I'm I'm still ripping them yeah and I think I have two more cards to complete the one 150 or to get the me or whatever yeah I love that I'm just trying to get them card points because it's like random ass cards that aren't even yeah crazy but I just it's like I think I need muck and one other dude always muck it's always down to muck, man. Yeah, and you know, but like you said,
Starting point is 00:19:18 it's kind of an interesting one where technically it's not Nintendo, but with the, where the finances go and stuff, it does end up playing into Nintendo. They made some bucks off it. Yeah, but it's like, you don't see the Nintendo logo when it boots up and there's like,
Starting point is 00:19:30 at least three logos on that start. That is fascinating. That is true. That is true. But whatever, still, I love that game. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:36 it's weird because I have played quite a lot of Switch this year. But even with that, I do feel like it's not the best year they've ever had. Absolutely. But I do think it was a great year for them for the reason of it being incredibly consistent. Like they had a major Nintendo release pretty much every month. And I feel like this was very much them kind of like going back into the past of what are some opportunities for us to kind of like branch out and do something a little bit different that's really going to serve the Nintendo audience that's there. Because to your point, bless, we've already gotten a lot of the big heavy hitters.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And we kind of don't want heavy hitters locked on switch. one hardware. Like I wouldn't want them to announce a new Donkey Kong 3D adventure game on the switch one. Yeah. Right. I want them to hold off and if they do that, do it on switch two. If we get another Mario cart switch two like 3D Mario like the list goes on for like some of these bigger heavy hitters, especially having two full Zelda experiences so far on the console. But to get a new 2D Zelda, I mean, that was such a surprise. To get Paper Mario, a thousand year Door remake, which I know it's pretty easy to look at any of the big three and be like, oh, they just put out remakes and specifically Nintendo who are kings of ports and like just putting out games again and again and again. But I think Paper Mario Thousand Year Door is worth talking about and giving praise to in a different way because not only was it a game that is beloved from Nintendo's history that was in retrospect locked on the game queue.
Starting point is 00:21:12 a system that did not sell that many systems in comparison to future Nintendo systems. And despite getting amazing reviews and being held up there as no matter who you talk to, if you're a Mario RPG fan, a thousand year door is in the conversation for, is it the number one?
Starting point is 00:21:31 And I feel like for most people, it is the number one. And it's between this and Mario RPG, which we got last year. But on top of that, going back, getting this game, and the way that they remade it, like when we played Metro
Starting point is 00:21:42 Prime remastered and it was like wow this feels like a modern ass game that was a game that came out in 2001 but they put just the right amount of love to keep the spirit of the game and the feel and the look and the colors and all that stuff but they remade it in a way that whether you call it remaster
Starting point is 00:21:58 remake whatever it felt like exactly what it needed to be thousand year door took that steps further and this game is gorgeous and this is exactly the soul of the original GameCube game but I mean, it looks like this.
Starting point is 00:22:14 You know what I mean? Like that to me is so impressive. So it's not just like, oh, Last of Us One getting remade again or like Horizon and things like that where yes, it definitely looks better. And having that have all the new, the haptics and all the fancy new PS5 features, like, yes, there's value there. But this, I think, is more akin to a big new Nintendo title as opposed to, oh, just another, like a Luigi's Mansion 2 HD that we also got this year.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, I mean, when you're going from a, different when you're changing aspect ratios, that certainly adds a lot to the remake remaster portion of it. But yeah, I agree. Like I didn't, I never fully played through Metroid Prime remaster, but looking at those new assets and looking at how it wasn't just an HDification of it, like, it looked freaking phenomenal. Um, what would, what could Nintendo have done to either, like, if, if Nintendo had, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:09 not so great of a year this year, what should, what could they have released this year that would have been like, oh, that would have been amazing? See, that's my thing is I... Are we talking about the Wind Waker, Zelda stuff? No, that's just even more remakes, though, right? Like, I feel like that would just enhance this year to be more of what it was, which at the end of the day, I do think this was a great year. I just think it's a great year for Nintendo who, when you compare it to other great Nintendo years, it's not that great. It's, it's a, I'd probably, if using the kind of funny scale, I'd give this year a 7.5 where I, I would give it an 8 being great because of how consistent it was.
Starting point is 00:23:42 because of giving us quality games and kind of getting a little bit more weird and getting deeper into some of the franchises we haven't seen. Like even things that don't necessarily speak to me, but the MEO game that they put out and just the endless ocean and the another code recollection. Like they were going to like DS franchises that mean a lot to people. They were like kind of shocked were coming back. And like that's what I want to see from the like twilight years of a Nintendo console is like, yeah, let's actually go back and get into some of that stuff. In addition to a brand new, fantastic Mario Party,
Starting point is 00:24:17 trying something different with some new games like Super Princess Peach and Mario Luigi Brothership going back to a franchise that people have been wanting for a long time to get a new entry. And I think what could have made this year good, or better, Andy, is if those games are actually standout stellar titles themselves. And I think that's kind of where they took the biggest hit. But the last thing I want to say of why I'm higher, I would say, than it sounds like you guys are,
Starting point is 00:24:41 As a lifelong Nintendo fan and somebody that studies Nintendo as a brand, I feel like we're finally at a point that the third-party titles of consequence that we would want, that we know can actually work on a Switch, are there on Switch day one. Like getting Prince of Persia lost Crown on Switch, that's awesome. Getting Marvel versus Capcom collection on Switch, that's awesome. It wasn't even on Xbox. Like, Switch had, there was like an expectation this year,
Starting point is 00:25:11 that I feel like games were coming to it, even if they were older games coming over that I think are a really good sign for the direction Nintendo's going for Switch 2 of Yakuza coming out this year on Switch and the designer saying that it's selling like hotcakes. That is a sign of like, oh, I imagine that Yakuza games are going to be on Switch going forward.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Switch 2. That's good. I feel like there's just a lot of really smart calls made that are laying the groundwork for an even more stellar future. And that sort of set the ground. That's setting the groundwork also for the future because of the ability to play modern titles, hopefully, in the future. You know, like, because right now you are, you're limited, right? Unless the game can look like Prince of Per's a Lost Crown and has to be not the most, you know, visually stunning current gen title with crazy particle effects.
Starting point is 00:26:03 The fact that it was able to get some sort of third-party love and then in the future, having hardware that can be more capable is really. Really exciting. And third party love, I think a very important thing that was a first this year, for all intents and purposes, is PlayStation and Xbox support, getting Lego Horizon Adventures from PlayStation Studios and getting grounded in Pentiment from Insidion over at Xbox. Like the Switch's third party support this year, while again, we're not getting Assassin's Creed Shadows, or I guess nobody did, but we're not getting Call of Duty.
Starting point is 00:26:35 We're not getting those big, big things. I mean, we know we're going to eventually get Call of Duty on Switch, too. but I feel like the third-party support of games Nintendo gamers actually would care about or want to play that are speaking to that family audience, this was a good year with a lot of solid wins.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah, I think to Andy's earlier question as far as like what they've done to like make this a great year, I think on the opposite side of the coin, I'll say the Switch 2. Like it's one of those things where I, it almost feels like this was a year where they met for the Switch 2 to come out in the fall and for like that
Starting point is 00:27:08 launch late to be there alongside like the other stuff that feels a bit more just supporting the library of the switch one to kind of see it off in a good way but the switch two coming out seemingly sometime um further out next year makes i think this year's slate of games stand out more as like a oh yeah it was like kind of a down year and off year right again not a bad year but one of those ones where it is kind of a necessary one right like if i also give this year a number i'll probably i'm between a six and a seven so i'd probably say a six point five but it's a six point five in the way that I'm like he kind of needs to be like it's kind of necessary for this to be a six point five year that way you can save up the big guns for next year
Starting point is 00:27:46 hopefully when the switch two comes out and really make that the banger that it needs to be like tim's point do I want a big 3D donkey Kong to come out right now for the switch and then have that be a thing where the switch two comes out and that one gets lost of time or something like that happens like probably not um but again you do have the zelda echoes of wisdom that i think fit the bill something that can kind of see this console off in its final year, and then hopefully you see that stuff get corded over to the Switch 2 by the time that comes around. Yeah, and I
Starting point is 00:28:14 know, I guess Andy, like the one thing to me that would like, that it was possible potentially that would fit on Switch 1 is Metro Prime 4, right? If that were to come out this year and be amazing, be what we need that game to be. Like, that would have been the thing of like, oh, this was a banger Nintendo year, like hard stop.
Starting point is 00:28:30 But that's not the case. However, this year, I do want to give a shout out to how Nintendo did its direct. of we had a lot of Nintendo Direx where we had eight Nintendo Direx this year of some form, shape or form, whether it was a Pokemon Presents or talking about the museum. We're talking about the amusement parks or indie worlds or partner showcases, whatever. There was a lot of stuff that they set up and delivered on where it's like announcing games and then them coming out this year. Like their June event was fantastic looking back on it of them reannouncing Metrid Prime for Beyond for 2025.
Starting point is 00:29:05 we got Echoes of Wisdom. There was just a lot of stuff in there. That's when they showed Mario and Luigi Brotherhip. And for those games to actually be coming out in a timely fashion, I think is good for Nintendo. It shows a healthy Nintendo that
Starting point is 00:29:20 have a vision and plan. And I'm just happy that they haven't run out of steam so many years into the Switch's life. Gotcha. Yeah, I'm just at a point where I'm waiting for the next thing. I think when Donkey Kong comes out, I'm excited to try that out next year and just sort of of see, you know, what the differences are, and I'm kind of excited to see, to actually
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Starting point is 00:32:03 Shadyrays.com, use code, kind of funny for 50% off. Two or more pairs of shades. So I want to keep going through the notable releases. We touched on a lot of them already, just in a little conversation. But starting off the year from the Nintendo side, we had Mario v. Donkey Kong coming out. Roger liked it enough. It has a Metacritic of 76. That seems about right.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And overall, I'd say that's kind of the metacritic average for Nintendo this year. It's around to 76. Like, they put out a lot of games that were hitting that. that vibe. And like I feel like they put out quite a few games that are forgettable, not in the worst way, but forgettable in the way of like, all right, Mario versus Donkey Kong isn't taken over the world, right? Like Nintendo Road Championships isn't taken over the world. And like, we have those games that are going to speak to the people they speak to, right? Like Roger Recorder is going to play Mario versus Donkey Kong. But games like these kind of come and go as far as
Starting point is 00:32:57 like, I think the general conversation that we're having. And especially Mario versus Donkey Kong, I feel like is one that it is a, you know, it's like a, oh, here's a game for, for y'all for fans of this thing, but something that we know isn't going to speak to the fucking ecosystem of the Nintendo Switch. But again, that's something that as a Nintendo fan, I love. I love that it's like there is support for when a console has seen support for all the biggest hitters, like to get some love for more obscure. But like, you know, there's people that grew up with the GBA and grew up with the DS and
Starting point is 00:33:26 grew up with these different consoles that like have the nostalgic ties to these games. Roger being one of them, right? So that's great, even though, this isn't for me. I mean, it gives me hope, though, right? Like seeing stuff like this makes me go, man, I hope they make another, I hope they make a Dr. Mario. Like shit that's like on the fact that they have games that are on this level that they're like, yeah, make it for, I was going to say for like our main console, but they don't have a handheld console anymore. So make it for our console and like, you know, the people that play are going to play it. I love that they're able to have those tears to it.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And I hope this stuff works out for them. Right. I hope Mario versus Donkey Kong is one of those ones where they see enough sales for where they're like, yeah, that's worth it. Let's continue to support games of this size. I'm still so salty about Mario Golf because like, this random little small Mario versus Donkey Kong game still looks so good and it looks like it looks like the devs from any other
Starting point is 00:34:12 of big Mario games just said here have our our template file go ahead and make a video game and like why did Mario Golf look so garbagey three years ago or whatever? Oh man and then yeah we got a lot of third party love like I was saying things like Pentamint and grounded continued indie support with things like Bellatro I do want to give a shout to the
Starting point is 00:34:33 expectation that they've maintained that big indie games are going to come to Switch right? Like I feel like they did such a good job. Year 1 of kind of cementing that and having games like Hollow Night be so closely tied to Switch Celeste as well. What do you think he'd pentamine and grounded
Starting point is 00:34:49 coming to Switch and being like the like part of Xbox's thing of hey we're going to bring some other platforms. This year we also got Horizon, the Lego Horizon game coming to the Switch. We've had Xbox games and PlayStation games make their way to a Nintendo platform. Tim and Andy for you guys, like, what do you think that looks like on the Switch 2?
Starting point is 00:35:08 Do you think that this is a sign of things to come? Do you think Switch is going to be the console where it is? Hey, everybody is putting stuff out for the Switch. Yeah. I hope so. I really do. I mean, I think that there's a lot of unknowns that need to be figured out before I can like believe in that because we've seen Nintendo time and time again now come out and
Starting point is 00:35:27 be like, hey, here's the Wii you or like, here's the Wii even, and look at our third party support. And then here's the Wii you and here's our third party support and then we're getting Batman Arkamports, right? Like it's years after that was at all relevant. And so we've just been burned a couple times. And even looking at the switch, I feel like there was a major attempt and then pull back from companies like EA or 2K even of just like, we're going to support this and then they didn't see the success that they needed to. So they kind of pulled out. But in recent times, any time that Nintendo financially has talked about the Switch 2 existing, they have, they showed that the slide with all the different
Starting point is 00:36:09 third party logos. Yeah. And there's more than ever. And it includes everyone we would want from from software to Squarionix to Capcom, Ubisoft, everything in between. And that gets me excited because I do think that all Nintendo needs to do with the Switch 2 is be competent technically. And I think it's going to be easier for them with things like AI upscaling and all this stuff that we know that they're working on for Switch 2 to be able to hit that lowest common denominator between PCs, Xboxes, PlayStation, and Nintendo's, in order for all the third parties to be like, yeah, we'd be stupid to not put our game on if Nintendo continues the success they have, which I expect them to, a system that sells software. Yeah. A big telltale moment for me
Starting point is 00:36:56 will be a possible Monster Hunter Wilde's. like, of course, there's been nothing said about anything like that. We know that the game doesn't, in these past sort of betas we've seen, it doesn't run particularly amazing even on the current genic consoles. Hopefully optimization will make that a bit easier. But that, a handheld Nintendo product being, you know, and a Monster Hunter game go so hand in hand together. I know Rise did really well on the Switch.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And I think that will be like a big moment if we were able to see a competent enough release on the Switch 2 for Monster 100 Wilds. And it'll look similarly to Arkham Knights. Yeah, that's... I mean, again, I'm really hoping for just optimization out the ass along with hardware that can somewhat support that situation.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah, because that's not where we're at right now. Right, of course. The Switch is just just, just period. It's just not working like that. Yeah, we saw them, you know, Mortal Kombat had its great week of just great memes of crazy-looking characters with weird lighting and everything just looked off.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, it's just I we are closer now and again a lot of unknown so we'll have the Nintendo can come out and just be like hey the Switch 2 has fucking four screens and a Hulu hoop that you use to control your character. You know what I mean like I love Hulu Hoos so much shit can happen. Yeah, but I if things go the way that I expect them to I think that it is undeniable that we are closer to Nintendo having parity with the mainstream consoles than they've ever had in terms of technologies that just a base level like we expect this thing to be able to do 4K that will be the the first time that we've had a generation of a Nintendo console that is at the same league as the other guys in a very long time, right? So that alone, I think, is just like, all right, cool. There's still going to be at the bottom end. Like, I'm not saying that it's going to be better than in any
Starting point is 00:38:45 way, but like, as long as it can keep up with, we're in a much stronger place than we are now at the very least. Yeah. I wonder how they think about it, right? Because I think, I mean, the best case scenario would be if you can get a Switch 2 to be strong enough to be able to play an Elder Ring competently.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Oh my God, that'd be so sick. But I'm in a place where I don't expect that, though, right? Like, I feel like even the third-party stuff that comes to Nintendo platforms is, like, the more, I guess, translatable titles. Like, I don't know if I would want to play a big, like, a third-person action game on my Nintendo Switch. I would play an Astrobot if PlayStation wanted to bring Astrobot, which is a weird one to pick because that's such a PlayStation thing.
Starting point is 00:39:26 But, like, a game, the way in which we're talking about Horizon coming. over or Pentamac coming over or grounded coming over. Like the pick and choosing of, oh yeah, these games would translate well to the platform. I, right now my expectation is set that like that'll still continue to happen. I don't know. I guess it is tough for me to believe that the switch to we could get wider support from like more bigger AAA types of games. I'm on the complete opposite side.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And I know that I'm an idiot. I know I'm an idiot for thinking so. but like for me this feels like whatever hardware is going to be coming out in this switch two that a game like elden ring can run and will run great on it i'm not saying gta six or anything like that but the fact that elden ring can run on you know 30 frames plus on a steam deck is a fucking miracle to me you know i mean this doesn't need to be a pizza bet this is just a bet whatever whatever you want to do yeah we will see we will see elden ring in the switch reveal situation.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And it will get the same placement that Skyrim did on the switch. Oh, I like that. And that initial reveal, they showed Skyrim, the guy on the plane, whatever. Like, Nintendo's going to use Eldon Ring as that, like, look. Like, this is the bar.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That's cool. I hope so, man. That's really exciting. I'm not going to bet, but I hope so. I think so. I really think so. And, like, it makes sense for them to do that. Yeah, because I, I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:48 the way I look at it, the sort of striving for more third party stuff, that seems to be the last sort of unknown, landscape that they have yet to kind of go for. And I think that, of course, any big company wants more. And they're dominating anyway with sales all over the damn place. What's one extra place we can go to that, you know, we necessarily haven't had a whole lot of luck with in the past. And that is just for larger titles and you're not getting a, you know, crappier version of NBA 2K or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the marketing already like speaks first off as far as an Eldon Ring complete
Starting point is 00:41:26 edition that has Shadow of the Earth tree and you have a Mario costume that you can put on your tarnished. Oh, amazing. You can run around as Luigi, get murked by Dragon. Or you get like just the red Nintendo switch shirt, just like a Breath of the Wild. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, tarnished.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, we got Super Monkey Ball, Banana Rumble, first new monkey ball in a very long time. But that goes back to what I'm saying of just like for people that are nostalgic for the GameCube era. Like, that was, they focused on this as one of their big things in their partner showcase. I have a random question that has nothing to do with Monkey Ball, unfortunately, for the Monkey Ball.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Sit goes out there that are listening. Princess Pete Showtime. Yeah. Do we feel like there was a concerted effort to make that for a certain younger audience? And if maybe that effort was put elsewhere to be a bit more complicated of a video game, something that isn't just one button to do everything, that maybe the wrong decision was made there? I think it's a yes and no type situation where I feel like they clearly were going for a specific audience. I just also feel like it's not so much about it needing to be more difficult or more advanced or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I just think it needs to be a bit higher quality. Like I think that like those young kids deserve the same level of quality for the game that we expect from the Nintendo games that are a little bit more advanced. But the developers of that good feel, if I remember correctly, like I compare Prince Showtime. Princess Peach Showtime to things like the Yoshi's Crafted Series or like the more the hidey or Kirby games. And there's like an artistry to those that I feel like the
Starting point is 00:43:04 Princess Peach was just missing. So to me that's the biggest downfall of Princess Peach is that it just didn't have that Nintendo magic to it. It wasn't bad. I felt like there was a lot of potential there in what we saw with going to these different worlds and having Peach in these different situations
Starting point is 00:43:21 and now she's a ninja, now she's a chef, or whatever the fuck. But I just, there's a part of me that feels like there's a bit of a crossover between the complexity and what the game was asking
Starting point is 00:43:34 to do and what the quality of the game was. Because when you're experiencing these situations and it is just tap this button to do the thing, it felt really, really dumbed down.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And I just, I don't know what that, I don't know what the sales were for this game. And I don't know if Nintendo sees that as a failure of, hey,
Starting point is 00:43:53 we, you know, going for that kiddie market may not be the play right now. I definitely don't think they see it as a failure. But I think that they see it. I think all the signs are there for us to know what it was, which was, I don't want to say it's a cash grab because that's definitely undermining like what they did here. Like there's a game here. Like there's a game and there's like a clear pitch of like, okay, we're trying to market with Princess Peach.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Like that's smart. I think a good call from them. I just feel like it was a bit of a letdown that they didn't go full in on. taking it further like Kirby's forgotten land is one of my favorite switch games and that's taking a franchise that traditionally has been a lot kiddier and simpler. And I think meeting in the middle in a nice way where kids can enjoy that game and then we can enjoy that game as an action game. You know what I mean? So I hope that we get another peach game. I just hope it's a different take than what we got there.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And then Nintendo World Championships, NES edition. I love when Nintendo gets weird. I feel like it's always, man, this is such a great idea. But why'd you do it this way? And that's what this is to me, where I'm like, I got a lot of playtime out of this. I know, Barrett, you got. God, I was so addicted to this game for weeks and weeks and weeks. And I think it was just because of the perfect time of there's a vacuum of just like not a lot of games at that moment.
Starting point is 00:45:11 But yeah, after we did the, this was like the last like real last gamer thing that we did, right? Like I was, and that was my first time playing this and I was immediately addicted. Just like doing those like short bursts of like speed run things. Playing like the entirety of Super Mario Brothers 1 and trying to get that down to like sub 10 minutes or whatever and like the first dungeon in Zelda 1 like sub five minutes. It was just so addicting. And yeah, it wasn't like the best. Like there's so many little things especially in like making a game about speed running.
Starting point is 00:45:45 I think they could have improved. but this was like, even just in the three weeks I was addicted to this, like, it's probably one of my most played games this year. And it's, I know it's not like the best game for me, but for me personally, is a contender. It's one that definitely bums me out that I think I had taken the week off when this came out. And I finally got it a few weeks ago. And I booted it up once and then just didn't play anymore because this is one that I think
Starting point is 00:46:10 very much benefited from the zeitgeist of like having friends that are also playing it or having people online that you know that are also playing it. I would have played this so much with Bear or with Jeff Grub or whoever else is playing this game. But, yeah, I think this is one of those ones where I'm curious if people are still booting it up if, like, this is one that, like, you know, speaks beyond the time that it came out in. The tough thing was the no leaderboards, which I know annoyed Jeff Grubb to the ends of days. And I annoy him even more by just pretending that all of my times are better than his times. There's no proof against it, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Yeah, we confirmed it. Oh dude, I did this one just getting the first mushroom in Super Mario Bros. 3. That's honestly probably the reason I didn't play more is because I did that for probably 20 minutes. And I was like, hey, cool, I think I'm done. I spent all my time getting this one mushroom trying to get it under fucking three seconds. Yeah, I love this, but yeah, like we're saying, just a couple weird missed opportunities for it. And I hope we get more things like this. I like when Nintendo gets weird with its past.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Like the NES remix games were super cool too. So I hope we get more of this, but it was a fun surprise. and I'm happy that it came and went the way that it did because Nintendo continues to like do things that we would never predict and never expect. Then moving on from that, we got again, it's just great third party support for Switch audiences
Starting point is 00:47:30 with things like Marvel versus Capcom fighting collection, Epic Mickey Rebrushed, Sonic Shadow Generations, Dragon Quest 3, HD2D. These are all games that we know are going to sell very well on a Nintendo console have a lot of lineage there. so good stuff but on the Nintendo side yeah Super Mario Party jamboree
Starting point is 00:47:49 82 on Metacritics sounds about right it's a Mario Party but it's a good one we're out of the days of I expect a Mario Party to be bad I hope that it's good it's like no we expect it to be good so thank God for that
Starting point is 00:48:02 because the Wii U arrow is pretty bad Oh my God I mean hey we're on a run I know we talked about this before where I think you and Barrett aren't as big of a fans of Super Mario Party but I liked it and like we're on an upward trajectory with Mario Parties, where they've just gotten better
Starting point is 00:48:16 each time between Super Mario Party, Mario Party Super Stars, and Super Mario Party Chambery. We just got to work on the naming scheme. Because I hate that, like, they took Super out, and then they added Super Back in, and now I don't really know what Super Mario Party is versus Mario Party. Super is New Games. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:48:31 Yeah, I think of that. Okay, so Mario Party Super Stars is supposed to be heartbreaking back. So Super Mario Party is the name of the franchise at this point. Oh. And then Mario Party Superstars was just like all the old Mario Party games remix. Got it. Yeah, but like, the, Mario Party, or Super Mario Party, Super Mario Party Jamboree also has old stages in it, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah, but that's just like, like, I didn't Super Mario Party as well, have one old stage. Oh, maybe it did. I don't remember. Damn. So, Super Switch. New console. Whoa. New World.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I like that you've read into it this way, because my, my assumption was that they just didn't want Super in the title twice for Mario Party superstars. They can't call it Super Mario Party superstars. I mean, they could, though. They couldn't. Legally, I don't think you can't understand. They released Denpaman. They can do whatever they're
Starting point is 00:49:15 Oh, I forgot about The new Dempomen New Dumperman I forgot all about that guy And then yeah Just a little quick hit here Looking at future releases We got the last Nintendo
Starting point is 00:49:26 Published game Coming out this year It's gonna be Fitness Boxing 3 Your Personal Trainer Coming on December 5th I mean hey We're sleeping on it But like that might be the next ring fit
Starting point is 00:49:36 If you want it It might be the highest sounding game On the console And then yeah future releases We got Donkey Kong Country Returns with the January 16th release date doesn't look great, but I'm happy to play that game again.
Starting point is 00:49:48 We got a... I'm happy you two are excited about it. Because I'm like, I'm not playing this. Like, the way of it, it's January. I don't know what's going to be out. Am I catching up on stuff? Probably not. It's something new to just sort of dig into.
Starting point is 00:50:01 This is the fact that people talk about Tropical Freeze so much that like... Just play that. Yeah, if you're planning on playing this, just play Tropical Freeze if you haven't played by it. And if you play Tropical Freeze, play it with Bless on stream. Let's bring back Donktober.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Donk it up. Donctober in January. So this is the one that I had this on Wii and I started it and I was kind of like I don't need to play anymore. Well, that's crazy. That's crazy. Talk blast.
Starting point is 00:50:25 This game is great. But it was great then. It's cool. But this game's fixing the problem that we won had, which was the waggle of bullshit, right? So I'm excited to play through this again. But I'm excited to play through this
Starting point is 00:50:33 just to know like I like 2D platformers way. Not in a, oh, this is worth buying a switch four type. Let me tell you what, man. I'm further, I'm further into Prince of Person and Lost Crown. God damn. That was a good. The keeps on gaming blasts. Here's the thing, because this was around the time where I also had no more heroes,
Starting point is 00:50:49 and I had the last story. I just looked at it, and Twilight Princess, I was playing all those games instead, all right? I kept looking back at this game, like, one day I'll get back to Dot-Gong country returns. I never returned to it. Oh, and Barrett. I got back to Nine Souls, Barrett. I'm proud of you. How are you liking it?
Starting point is 00:51:04 I'm like Ian Moore. I'm just so confused of this story. I have no idea. I took way too long away from it. I still don't love the level design of anyway. That's a story for a different way. Keep looking at Nine Souls. Be 1,000 ex resist.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Well, you beat it? Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm proud of you. I also restarted Nynos now that it's on PlayStation because, you know, that's just where I am at. And then, yeah, we got a couple confirmed dates for some third party things. Guilty Gear Strive come in January 23rd, February 11th, Civilization 7. Another big thing. Day and date coming to Switch.
Starting point is 00:51:37 I like to see that. We'll see how it runs. And then, yeah, Pokemon Legends, Zah, Metroid Prime 4. coming at some point in 2020. I keep craving Pokemon. Dude, me too, bro. I needed a Pokemon this fall. You want to talk about something that would.
Starting point is 00:51:50 We didn't get one. We should have got a Pokemon game this year. Like that's, I think we're talking about it's like reviewing Nintendo's 2024. DCG Pocket, man. Yeah, but no, no core Pokemon game, which is like the first time,
Starting point is 00:52:01 I mean, pulling this out of my ass, I'm just gonna say ever. Like it really feels like in, no. I feel like we've gotten a Pokemon game for the last 10 years every year. I'm pretty sure. I feel like we were waiting on it.
Starting point is 00:52:12 This feels like a no game. has ever hit Yeah. Just thinking it through, right? It's like we got... Put it on Twitter just say it's true.
Starting point is 00:52:18 When the Switch Life cycle started, I feel like we're waiting for a minute. No, because we got Let's Go. Then we got Sword and Shield. Like,
Starting point is 00:52:23 let's go was like year two or three, wasn't it? But then I think we got Ultrasun and Moon on 3DS though. Oh. I could be wrong about that. He might be right. I'm so excited
Starting point is 00:52:34 for a new mainline Pokemon game. I think that's the thing I'm maybe most excited about for the future Zelda stuff or Nintendo stuff. So 2015 looks like the last year
Starting point is 00:52:42 we didn't get a mainline Pokemon game. Damn, you nailed it. Did we count 2023, though, because that's just DLC for Scarlet and Violet. That's why I'm craving it. It's been a while. No way. It's been a minute. It was 20, I guess
Starting point is 00:52:57 that's only two years. Yeah, I guess the DLC is interesting for both 2020 and for 2023, but I mean, they're significant enough that like, wild DLC just gets complicated, but like there were substantial core Pokemon experiences. Man, they released three Pokemon games, like
Starting point is 00:53:13 12 month period. With brilliant diamond, Legends Arceus, and Scarlet and Violet. And that was bad. That was like November to November. That was terrible. Burnout time.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Man, those games look so terrible. I can't wait for whatever the next thing is it'll look like. I was, so I was playing magic over the break. And as I was playing magic,
Starting point is 00:53:31 I started thinking about Pokemon. And I was like, man, it'd be really great if they made a Pokemon card game. And I let that thought marinate for a good 10 seconds. And I was like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Oh, shit. How fuck they made one. I was laughing quite a bit recently just thinking about him going, oh, dude, fucking everywhere I walked in Vegas, people were playing Balatro. We're like, well, no, that's like just poker. It's so fucking funny. Another thing I just want to give a shout out to is Nintendo Switch online this year. It was weird because this is the first year in a while that we didn't get like a major new exciting thing
Starting point is 00:54:05 in the sense of a new console or a new collection of here's Genesis games or Game Boy games, Game Boy Advance, N64, something like that. And we also didn't get the big, like, F099 or whatever it was called and or 35. You know what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah, like the Battle Royale. Yeah, like Tetris 99, Mario 35, like all that type of stuff. But we did get a lot of games that people were waiting for. Things like the Golden Sun games, the Donkey Kong land games.
Starting point is 00:54:34 We didn't get Donkey Kong 64, but we really are at the point where. Were people really waiting for the Donkey Kong land games, Tim? Were they waiting? When you look at When you look at what's missing on the Game Boy side, yeah. Like I feel like at this point, it's the Pokemon games, obviously. Donkey Kong 64 for a couple of you guys. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:55 What's the respect on DK64? All right. At least three of us are waiting for it. I'm sure there's a third of us out there somewhere. But then getting things like the F0 games, even ones that haven't been to America before, getting the Banjo 2y. It's like they
Starting point is 00:55:10 No shout out extreme G. Dark extreme G I played a lot of extreme G But yeah Very solid year And Mario Golf
Starting point is 00:55:18 Mario Tennis Coming like Solid year of just like filling in some of the gaps That we're now just like Really really really really Running thin on like What they even could bring over
Starting point is 00:55:26 And then Nintendo music Being another thing That's a perk of Nintendo Switch online Which I love I think they've done a really good job Of continuing to every single week Drop stuff
Starting point is 00:55:38 That feels relevant They're doing that Because like that could have gone wrong where it is like every month they hype up like one soundtrack coming to Nintendo music. I like the fact that is they know what it is. They know like they need to get more stuff on it and they're doing a good job of, hey, every week it is going to be a random drop of you got the random F0 soundtrack. You got Don't con country too. And that was like the first new one that we got. And I'm like, yeah, you know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:56:01 You know what you're making the right choices here. Yeah. So cool. Another, you know, it's Nintendo. So it's weird. They're doing it. The app, I think, has improved vastly in the last month over how it launched. So good on them.
Starting point is 00:56:13 We also got a Nintendo Museum Direct and the launch of the Nintendo Museum itself, which I think is very, very cool for people that are able to go check it out in Japan. Really try to finagle my way in there. Yeah. They said no. They kicked me out at the door. It's unfortunate. It would have me messed up.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I'm actually going to go through a couple key events here for people that might not know of all the big things that happen to Nintendo this year, not talking about game releases, but on April 9th, on Nintendo discontinued. Had a divorce? Discontinued the online services for the 3DS and Wii U. so end of an era there. On July 30th, the International Olympic Committee discontinued the Mario and Sonic series
Starting point is 00:56:50 after 17 years of partnership. Yeah, I keep forgetting that happened. Yeah. It's so messed up. It really hits you. It did. That was a reaction. That needs to be clicked out.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Oh, shit. Yeah, that was crazy. Because it's the only time that Mario and Sonic come together and like, we should do that. that more often. You're right. No, you're right. And it's a tradition. Like, every four fucking years, they did it to, like, support some NFT bullshit. I'm pretty sure. Don't fuck with tradition. Don't fuck with tradition.
Starting point is 00:57:16 On September 18th, Nintendo and the Pokemon Company filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Power World Developer Pocket Pair. October 2nd, the Nintendo Museum opened in Kyoto, Japan. October 9th, Nintendo Sound Clock Alarmo was announced. Yeah, yeah. And Andy Cortez
Starting point is 00:57:32 bought one. Yeah, yeah. Why? cool because I just I like the sounds I was excited for a little experiment I don't know if it's watching me for sure it says that I'm like doing a lot of erratic movement around 2 a.m. I don't know what that's about blessing. I think that's you getting into bed. Probably cranking it. Like a radic movement. He was so excited about it like the first morning he had it
Starting point is 00:57:54 he came into the office he was like to hear my alarm out this morning. I was like no no I didn't I just wake up and I just hear like wow wow and it's like chomp, chain chimes doing stuff and then the, you know, but the night sounds are real nice, Tim, it does like little night sounds, like a little white noise when you're going to sleep
Starting point is 00:58:11 and it'll just be like, and then you'll hear the Zelda, bum, pump, and ee, little crickets and stuff. It's just like, it's a delight. Worst look as Scrant
Starting point is 00:58:20 I've ever seen in my life. Terrible purchase, I regret it all. And then, yeah, Nintendo music launched on October 30th, and then December 11th will be the expansion to Super Nintendo World
Starting point is 00:58:33 Donkey Kong country. opening up so about a week away before Donkey Kong did you get to go no fuck no oh yeah bothers me yeah I know what did what did you do like you're just out here just chilling we're in a cool ass tour let's talk about this yeah one a cool ass tour man a different games cast um and then did you get the weird Nintendo album oh thing that happened no it's yeah there's some beta project happening for Nintendo Switch online that we don't have too much details on like Some people got invited to a secret project. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:03 It looks like it might be an MMO and weird. It looks kind of like a Mario 64 type platformer mixed with Tears of the Kingdom style building and stuff. Oh, I didn't look that much into it. Oh, my gosh. I mean, it's, you know, we'll see what this turns into, but it's weird, you know. But good for them. Do some weird shit. I mean, it's not Nintendo if they're not doing some weird shit.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Yeah, exactly. I'm excited to see what like the arms of next generation is. Like not arms in the way that like is one and done But in the way of what's like the weirdest thing that you can show me that you're putting like you're all into Like what's the new project like what's gonna be the next platoon? You know what I mean? Like what's the next IP or project or like most player thing that you put out? That's gonna surprisingly take the world by storm
Starting point is 00:59:46 Yeah Because you know they got it. I really thought arms is gonna be it man I mean I was hoping arms would be it because I love we boxing so much Crazy arms just seemed like the evolution. I'm like there's no way this can't pop up once we were in there I was like oh we're just curving the punch this way man This is a lot more limited
Starting point is 01:00:01 Um Then yeah we got We only have a couple weeks left Of the year so not too many potential Places for new announcements Tundra boy comment got me Arms two legs The new component
Starting point is 01:00:16 Can you imagine how much we would pop off If they announced that Oh legs Let me did it Let's fucking go Uh We don't have too many Potential places
Starting point is 01:00:26 For new announcements In the next couple weeks Uh Game Awards obviously is in two weeks. And Nintendo in the last couple of years hasn't really had too big of a presence, if any. So I don't know if we should expect
Starting point is 01:00:39 anything from that. Do you guys think otherwise? Nah, I'm pretty much with you. I mean, I'll think they, I feel like they show up at Game Awards every year with like something major. But yeah, I don't know what that would be. And so it's tough to think about.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I think the one thing we talked about before was like, what if they showed up at Game Awards with like some kind of teaser for the next console, but they were like, hey, you know, come back in two weeks for the full review or some shit. I think that'd be cool, but I don't expect it. I feel like they're really happy on their own rhythm.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I feel like they've kind of cemented what their rhythm is now, and it comes with expectations, and especially even with them tweeting, hey, new direct, no info on the new switch to. I feel like they kind of know what to do in order to set expectations. Yeah, and go for it.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I was going to say Metroid Prime. I think there's potential there because that is announced already it's something that they can talk about something that they know would get people excited Jeff would love to have that as show I'm pretty sure yeah and then a potential Nintendo Direct I definitely there's never been one in December
Starting point is 01:01:41 so don't expect one there Switch to reveal yeah I think at this point is next year I think that's very easy to say and then yeah I wanted to get a couple of your super chats in here for thoughts on the year Rami says six out of 10 remakes for remakes original games were good but this year was just to wait for Switch 2. Oh, wait, Alarmo
Starting point is 01:02:00 was this year. Never mind, 11 out of 10. Hell yeah. Rocksteady Nettie says, um, wait, what? Did it indicate a score? Oh, dang. I'd give it a I'd give it a six only because, and it would have been
Starting point is 01:02:16 lower had we not just had this random ass Zelda drop. Surprise, you know? That was like really awesome. Yeah. Rocksteady and Nettie says, uh, moved house, the boiler's dead. No heater hot water. It's cold. Happy to have the crew getting me through. Good luck, dude. That sounds horrible. Stay warm. Stay safe.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Jesus. MeloFellus has try Pokemon infinite fusions. You could fuse any two Pokemon. I'm not into this fusion stuff, man. I've been seeing it too. Yeah. It's very cursed. Very cursed stuff. I like it. I like it. Really? Combined a drowsy Lick-a-tong and a milk tank. It's not good.
Starting point is 01:02:50 A milk-a-tong. A lick-a-tank. And then I tweeted yesterday asking for some people's thoughts on the year of Nintendo. Gary the 3rd says something that I think is very important and apt for this year. Parents are they watching Lickettangs? Give it a C. This is the first year in my adult life. I haven't bought a new Nintendo game.
Starting point is 01:03:12 None of the sequels or spinoff spoke to me. There was stuff for some folks, but none for me. You can definitely sell their hold their good stuff for Switch 2 next year. And yeah, I think that that's it, right? Like this, I do think for a lot of people isn't going to be that strong every year, because I think that it's going to be a common consensus that the, I don't even know how you'd call it, because it's not hardcore,
Starting point is 01:03:32 it's more just the like, the niche or specific. No, the opposite. Like the people, Nintendo fans that just play Mario and Zelda essentially. You know what I mean? Or Smash or Animal Crossing even.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Like, there's that level of like, if it's not that for Nintendo, it doesn't count. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, this was a bad year for them,
Starting point is 01:03:51 with the exception of Zelda. Yeah. Yeah, that's my thing is, somebody in chat earlier was like talking about oh blessing gave this a higher score than PlayStation which i gave it like a 0.5 higher score and the reason being is that like just because i didn't pick up my switch as much this year doesn't mean that i'm like going to hate on the fact that i think they're feeding a lot of their like quote unquote core audience right like i
Starting point is 01:04:11 acknowledge the fact that like mari versus donkey Kong is for people right or the zeldta echoes of wisdom was a huge release i ain't got to be a big fan of like that type of zelda game to be able to to not be able to acknowledge that like, hey, no, this is for somebody and this is like a good release here. Yeah. And also Nintendo didn't put out Concord this year. And so, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Because, yeah, I said I would give it a 7.5. But I think personally, like, to me for this year, I, I'd probably give it six. Yeah. You know, like, it was okay. But, like, I do understand. Like, there's a lot of good here. And I just really want to give them flowers for being as consistent as they are with game releases coming out. Because I did not expect that for them.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Nintendo at the end of their life cycle are usually piss-poor. at that. So it's a good sign for the future. To Mecky NZ says, while there were no huge games like a Mario or Zelda 3D title, Nintendo still managed to release a steady flow of exclusive content with at least one game almost every month. Overall, give it a B-minus. And then we got Foo Hazard saying solid lineup this year. It's not 2017 or 2023-level, but it was a great mix
Starting point is 01:05:14 of new games, return of old franchises, and remasters slash remakes. Enjoying Brothership a lot, but echoes of wisdom is my favorite switch game this year. It's distinct to people not playing their switches or even bothered to try games. I've enjoyed my Switch a lot, and I'll have a lot of fond memories of another code, Prince of Persia, Princess Pete Showtime, a thousand-year door, Mario versus Donkey Kong, and Echoes of Wisdom. So yeah, a lot of games that people are viving with. Blamed Truth, pretty negative on this, saying literally nothing stood out more than a day, especially in the media. And I do think that that might be pretty true, right?
Starting point is 01:05:46 I don't think that any Nintendo title this year had a standout moment to shine that one. wasn't just you had to be there, blinking the eye type thing, which is, I don't think, the most important thing in the world, but is worth bringing up when previous years have had moments that last. That's my thing is, if I'm comparing this year to the rest of the years in this Nintendo cycle or like this Nintendo console, this is definitely like a bottom two, right? Like what this and. Luigi's Manchin three year, 2019, I think it was.
Starting point is 01:06:16 It was 2019 a down year? Because I was thinking in 2020, but like Animal Crossing came out that year. but I feel like Animal Crossing was the only thing that came out that year. 2019, I think it was Fire Emblem, the three houses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think you're thinking of 2020. 2020, well, 2019 and 2020, like, both, I think. Yeah, so I think those two and this are probably, the bottom three.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I don't know exactly the, we should rank the years. We also had Luigi's Mansion 3 in 2019. We also had Marvel Ultimate Alliance three in 2019. Legend of Zelda, Link's Awakening. I'll never forget Andy Corcor. Cortez reacting to that, him maybe shedding a tier. Just a single tier. Like, 2020, I remember that having, it was Animal
Starting point is 01:06:56 Crossing, it was Paper Mario the Origami King. Origami King. Orgamy. Yeah. And then, like, I think one other thing. Like, 2020 was dead. Yeah, you're right. You're right. 2019 would be, I think, third. Yeah. Second, 2020.
Starting point is 01:07:11 But, yeah, I think this year in 2020 are competing. But I would see this. But also Super Mario 3D All-Stars. Think about it. Bless. Oh, was that 2020? Think about it. Oh, what a good time. It depends on how you weigh Animal Crossing, because Animal Crossing, that's big for people.
Starting point is 01:07:25 This year didn't have an Animal Crossing, really, like at all. I think the closest thing was probably Zelda, but again, that's going to speak to a specific... That's what's here that stood out more than a day. It's like, yeah, there was no Animal Crossing or Big Zelda or Big Mario, whatever conversation there. Flores Lobb says it's hard to argue
Starting point is 01:07:41 it not being Nintendo's best final year for a console ever. While a big chunk of their output wasn't for me, it's been fun to sit back a while and just watch them ride out to Switch like, champs. I'd go seven out of ten, but things like the Donkey Con theme park, music app, and weird Nintendo decisions like Alarmo might bump it up to an eight. I feel that. I feel where you're at. And then Rogers Bay says, MEO was my favorite overall narrative this year. Wow. Great RPG offerings with unicorn, Unicorn overlord, paper Mario, a thousand year door,
Starting point is 01:08:08 Shin Montgomery 10, say, five, vengeance, and Dragon Quest 3 HD 2D. So yeah, again, speaking to to an audience that isn't necessarily our traditional vibe, but they're showing up there. Echoes of Wisdom ended up being one of my favorite top-down Zelda's ever. Jamboree is the best Mario Party since N-64. Very solid IMO. Yeah, based on what I experienced with Jamboree, I'm surprised that the Metacritic scores were 82. I would have expected it a little bit higher than that.
Starting point is 01:08:35 I thought it felt super solid. I think it's the classic Mario Party thing of just trying too much, having too many modes that all the new modes aren't equal. The people didn't love that 20-person, whatever it was. Battle Royals, I think that that just brings the score down a bit. And then the last audience, right, and I want to read here, Colvan Hogg says, a big fat E for edging me for 12 straight goddamn months. Give us the hardware, guys.
Starting point is 01:09:00 It's getting a doig. Maybe look internally at ourselves after this. Let us know in the comments below what you thoughts of this year for Nintendo. And hey, fucking, how excited you are for 2025's Nintendo? because I can't explain to you how hyped I am. We got some good stuff coming. At the very least, we got Pokemon Zah. We got Metroid Prime 4Bion.
Starting point is 01:09:24 We got the Switch 2 revealable, whatever that's going to bring us. And we're going to be talking about all of that here on Kind of Funny. So make sure you subscribe to YouTube, subscribe to the podcast feeds, to Twitch, everything you'll want to do. You're going to want to hang out with us. Until next time, I love you all. Goodbye.

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