Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Grading Summer Game Fest 2022 - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

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What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Gamescast. This is our post show analysis for Summer Games Fest 2022. Of course, I'm Tim Gettys and I'm joined by the big daddy himself. Greg Miller. Hello, Tim. Live and in person. I love to have it here. It's so beautiful.

It smells good, Andy. It smells a lot better than you'd expect. And that's a big surprise, Andy's. I didn't shower today. I ran out of time. So here we are. Of course, that is the nitro rifle, Andy Cortez. Right now on the Day of the Devs,

a short enough planet of Lana, Lana Roads. Oh. Oh, a lot of great stuff. You went there. That's the way we're going. A lot of great stuff at Day of the Devs. I got pre-free credit and I can talk about it after they all go. We must play.

You better get educated, new face video games blessing at Aeo Ye Jr. Yeah, I don't know why I would ever know who Lana Rhodes is, but I'll figure that out leader, Andy. I'll figure that out. And rounding out the group, we have the master of hype, Snow, bike, Mike. Yo, what up, Tim.

Thanks for having me wearing my shades on today because it's summer games fest, talk, which means it's bright, but it's also hot. Get ready for some hot gosh darn takes, people. Here we go. I'm going with this. But I'm happy that's where we added. Of course, this is the kind of funny games cast.

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kind of funny anytime you're on the epic store. Let's get all that stuff out of the way. We're here. Everybody knows what's going on. It is summer game fest season. I want to start this off right by going around the panel and asking everybody on the kind of funny scale, what they would give Summer Game Fest 2022. Of course, for anyone new watching right now, the kind of funny scale is as follows. It's one to five. Number one is terrible.

Number two is bad. Number three is okay. Number four is great. And number five is amazing. Andy Cortez, let's start with you. What did you think of Summer Game Fest 2022? This gets a three out of five for me. It would have been a four if last of us didn't leak.

And we had that big pop along with all the other info. I still think a lot of the info there near the end, including that even just a screenshot that, yes, a multiplayer game is in development, even though you all know that, but we're actually talking about it. I think that is a pretty nice reveal there. I still give this a three, though,

because no silk song. What the fuck, you guaranteed me. You guaranteed me, and there was no silk song, and that was pretty disappointing. And, yeah, other than that, there just weren't a whole lot of pop, So it was a lot of cool games that we saw, but nothing that I will really remember this showcase for. Blessing.

Yeah, I think this one gets a two out of five for me. I don't think I've ever given a two out of five before on any of these things. Yeah, I think for me, where it comes down is the stuff from the showcase that I should be hyped for, right? The stuff that feels like it's aimed towards me. I'm thinking Street Fighter. I'm thinking LastFus. I'm thinking Callisto Protocol, Honkai, Zenless Zone Zero. all that stuff didn't excite me.

And those are the things that should have excited me. Everything else just felt like, and I say that because like the ways that they showed that stuff just didn't provide new enough or exciting enough information. Like, Calisto Protocol, I think the trailer looked cool, but it was just a director's cut of the trailer we saw before. And then everything else was just like, eh, you know, like Goat Simulator 3, cool.

Like the fake out was fun, but also like I feel like that was kind of a weird reveal. There was like a lot of talking. Like even the Neil Druckman, Noddyalk stuff felt, it was it was it was cool for like here's some new reveals but it also just felt like a lot you know like I feel like for a showcase like this you want to paste through quick like you want to just show the cool stuff and like leave the talking for later on or I don't know like I feel like there was just a lot of downtime that didn't need to happen and so there was that and I just feel like you know the rock stuff felt weird like this just felt like a weird show to me snow bike

blessing at a yoje junior you said it so well summer games fest 2002 is a two out of 10, even with the last of us, now two out of five. Well, I mean, I could go lower, I guess. I will say, even with the last of us reveal, yes, it got leaked beforehand, but that wouldn't have even been enough to carry this show to higher heights than it is already because it was a really big letdown. I know we set our tempered our expectations, but it was lower than that right there. There was just not enough pop.

There was not enough sizzle there at all. A lot of the games were just kind of mid and skippable and things that were. we'll never talk about again. And that's unfortunate. I thought really with the moment that we had with Jeff Keely, no E3 this year. This is all about Jeff and the team. And we know the circumstances around the world. We always talk about that.

But truly and honestly, when you have the moment, the ball is in your hands. You've got to make this shot. And this was not it, right? And now we'll have a different discussion next year. But this was not fun. This was not enjoyable. And unfortunately, a big miss. Craig Miller.

Hey, Tim. How are you? Good. How are you? Great. I'm known for many things, Andy. Okay. 2015 trending game of the year.

The only person who liked Jurassic World. Falling, no. If you go to the IGN review of Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom, you'll find another eight right there from Gab. What up? Another failing fucking outlet, yeah. Here's what you need to know about this one. It breaks my heart to say I am in the same boat.

I think it's a two out of five. I think it, on our scale, Tim, of like, you know, what you can give adjective-wise. I at times I'm tempted to go, it's okay. You know what I mean? And I always love doing this. It's okay or it's okay. And I think this one has to go bad because I honestly think this is a reputation herder for Summer Games Fest.

You know what I mean? Where I feel like this show was so big in terms of length, so long, right? The fact that it, what Mike said, so many of the announcements and games were mid, I think it would have done the reputation of Summer Game Fest as a standalone thing. it would have been more serviceable to go in and say, you know what, we're to cut this to an hour, hour 15, and have a bunch of cool shit in there and get rid of some of the games that, again, deserve their time in the spotlight, but maybe not here, maybe not on this stage, maybe in some of the other smaller showcases we see. There are so many showcase going on right now in SGF season, what was E3 season.

And just to be here and look through this list of stuff, it's like, you know, unlike Andy, unlike Blessing, sorry, you know, the Clisted Protocol, I'm a huge fan of and I can't wait see more of like I was excited for the gameplay I was I thought the gory trailer was cool or whatever I'm there and I think early in the show where it was I was like yeah all right cool like let's get going let's get through stuff but then I just look through this and it's like yeah there's a bunch of stuff going on and okay sure and like okay and even midnight suns where it's like okay cool midnight sun's granted right now a preview embargo is lifted from a event that people were at right so there's a bunch of hands-on impressions going up I could have gone here for a hands-on thing because

we're having this conversation where Mike was like oh it's like ex-com I'm like, well, it's not really like Xcom. You're playing cards, but it kind of, and there's this, I think there's still a general what is Midnight Suns for a lot of people. That would have done more for me seeing that there than some of the other stuff we actually went through and did longer deals with. And you just keep going. It's like, okay, yeah, all right, yeah.

Like this was by no stretch of the imagination a must watch. And that's what's heartbreaking. When Jeff does Game Awards, that is much must watch television. You are watching the game awards. You need to be a part of it. And for a summer game festival, like, you know what? Like we talked about. We are doing a stream.

This is it. Come watch. Like, oh, shit, they're going to bring it. And yeah, these announcements didn't bring it. And even with, if Last of Us Part 1 hadn't been leaked. And that was just a surprise there. I think we all would have popped really hard when Neil was on state came out. And then it would have been like, okay, well, I wish I could have seen something for factions, even two seconds of it.

Well, okay, I wish I could have seen a trailer from the HBO thing. Okay. And then it's, okay, it's remake. That's cool. Yeah. Like, all right, I don't think, you know, you always want the one more thing that is, all right, everybody, goodbye, good night. You know what? Here's one more thing to play us off.

And then you go to it because it's so huge. I think when you show your one more thing and then still come back and talk, that shows your one more thing. It was a fucking definitive. Great point. Yeah. Yeah, for me, it's like there are elements of this show, very few of them, but things that I haven't really seen before that I would be like, okay, I might want to give this a three. But there's a lot of elements that I'm like, I might want to give this a one. And I think with that, I am firmly with you guys.

this is probably the most two out of five show that we've seen. I do think this was a bad show overall. When we look at showcases in gaming, and at this point we look at them a lot and quite frequently, because it's no longer just the one week of E3, a little games comm action, and then game awards at the end of the year. It's kind of throughout the entire year,

everyone is talking about games. And I think that was really to the detriment of this show in particular. When you look at a showcase, I'm looking for big surprises. I'm looking for answers to questions we've been asking for the last couple months. I'm looking for updates on things that have been previously announced to just kind of like keep me, keep games in the kind of like conversation. So we have a, we're looking at a calendar of like what we're going to be playing, especially bless, you know. And I feel like we really lacked any of those things in this show.

And I think the last thing for me is kind of just overall presentation and a fun factor. And I think that all of Jeff's previous shows in the last couple of years have been way more fun than this. even just having celebrities come on stage and do something goofy, like even the memeability of it all. I think this one, having Rock do an awkward call that was clearly part of an advertising thing for Black Adam. It's like, and Zoa.

And for a guy. And it's fucking pecs. Yeah, it's like that kind of is really a good example of what this summer games fest was in a nutshell. And to me, ending with The Last of Us stuff, it's like, you know, last of us remake is something I'm extremely excited.

for i don't think in any world that is a show closer whether or not it leaked um and i especially think that if you have that trailer it's like that trailer is fine but like it is not uh doing a it's not a showstopper and like not seeing the gameplay not seeing like pretty much any question that we have about what last of us uh part one remake is we don't really have at this point at all and i think that's a that's a bummer um them talking about factions it's like cool that's way way out there. The HBO stuff, I would have loved to see a teaser of some sort. I would have loved to get a release date. He's teasing that it's coming soon. So we won't have to wait too long. But to me, the one big announcement of this entire show was Shredder's Revenge getting its release date.

And like, that is an expectation for this event. That is not something that I should be holding as. That was the highlight of this whole thing. Really kind of bummed about this. State of play, I think, knocked this out of the water and weakened the hell out of this. If Callisto Protocol was only here i think we'd be talking very differently about it but it wasn't it was it state of play street fighter six was it state of play right like having resonable for remake i think was more exciting than anything we got here um and i guess it's debatable with last of us and i'm excited for both of those projects but they were both known quantities to some extent so this is the first time i've looked at a keely show and not had a single thing that i'm like oh but it did have that one of the things

i think is telling too uh is what right now day of the devs is happening after it, right? We were pre-briefed on it, got to watch that presentation. And I think Day of the Devs, the showcase that's playing right now is better than what we just saw for Summer Game Fest. Because Day of the Devs, what's playing right now is, here are a bunch of cool games, here are the developers talking about it while you look at the game, and then we're on to the next thing. This isn't for you, we'll get to the next thing. This isn't for you, we'll get to the next thing. Whereas I think, you know, some of the Summer Game Fest stuff we got into, and this isn't for you? Well, strap in because we're going to keep talking about Warframe.

And this isn't for you? Well, sorry, the Rock has to show you the Black Advert And that it's like, okay, like whatever. Yeah, the two things I want to say about what kind of I appreciated that would pull me a little bit to a three. And I know this might not be the most popular take on this. But I think in terms of the, these are clearly advertisement games, this had less than his shows normally do. And some of them looked more interesting. I feel like common times would be a game that at least one of us was like, hey, this actually looks kind of cool. And I don't think that's always the case with these type of things.

And the other thing is I actually kind of like the vibe of them not treating. us like we're stupid and it does feel like we're all kind of in this together, them talking about the leak, there was a lot of talking in this. And while that does kind of ruin the pacing in a lot of ways, I think that it's cool to have that avenue in a different kind of style of showcase that if there were more hype trailers and announcements surrounding, I think that that is a really cool format to use to kind of get different voices heard and to talk about games in a different way than we're used to of just, hey, here's a bunch of stats and a graph and we're announcing a game and a couple

cringy jokes here and there. Like there seems to be a platform now that Jeff's building to have a little bit more organic natural conversations with people. That's not always going to hit and definitely do not end your show with it. But I do think that it's a cool thing

we haven't seen before. And I think there's a balance he has to figure out and hit because with a lot of that stuff, I feel like the pacing and the transitions into them felt weird. Like the, there was one game that had some like climate crisis stuff going on, right? And transitions from that.

into talking, yeah, that game, into talking about Ukraine for 20 seconds with Replaced and then on to the next thing. And I feel like, I don't know, stuff like that feels like it could have been placed better. Like I, for, to say, hey, replaced wasn't here because of the war of Ukraine and then to keep going and not acknowledge that in a bigger way, kind of felt like a loss. And then even Call of Duty felt awkward to me. And the way that last game awards, Jeff Kulay had a whole speech about Activision. And then come, come around for this presentation and it's just like, all right, cool, here's a big trailer for Call of Duty. I'm not going to acknowledge that. at all. If like stuff like that doesn't feel consistent to me.

Pregnant pause. We got it. I thought I agree with you, Tim. I actually liked the flow much better. That's my one positive coming out of this was I think last year we said, man, we had fun during this, but the ads really weighed us down. And I think he took that to heart and showed that there. I don't think there was ever an ad break here where I was really like, oh, this sucks. Like we felt last year, but it was missing the fun factor. And that's a big balance issue that we have to find. And is that where we are today with the pandemic as we start near, you know, quote unquote, the end of it, we're not in the prime of it, is that, hey, everybody's finally getting back into and making these games. Is it tough? Because now everybody else is doing their own showcases, right?

He's just kind of picking what he can get. Xbox clearly did not have a big presence there like I thought they would have, right? They seem to be tight with Jeff with Hellblade too at the game award showcase. I thought for sure we'd get something like that. But as you see, we get some small titles there with Game Pass announcements on that. But it looks like Xbox is really holding their cards close to their chest till Sunday. And it just seems like he didn't have the big parties show up to help him. Ubisoft, EA, there was no big, big titles wowing me here at all.

And it looks like he was left out of the dry on that. Yeah. I thought Kojima was a shoe in. Yeah. I thought. But now Xbox. I thought Kojibo would show up in some way, shape, or form, ethereal spirit. Jesus.

And something like that. But also, yeah, Silk Song really disappointing. I think I, just based on what a lot of people have been talking about and different rumors and things like that, I really thought that we would have seen it here with some sort of release window at least or some presentation. Here's some gameplay. So that's pretty disappointing. And I mean, shit, E3 picks the perfect fucking year to take off, didn't they? Because if E3 puts on a show, it's not going to be any better than this. Like, I don't think it's going to be any better than this because I don't think the games are there.

And the games are spread out. Everyone, that's the bigger problem. Yeah. And so I think in a lot of people's eyes, this shows, I think a lot of people watch right now may think like, ah, Jeff doesn't have it, man. He just don't got it. But it's like, I don't know if any showcase would have really lived up to the hype. We'll see what Xbox does.

Obviously, they are going to show off some more exclusive stuff. And I guess maybe Xbox would have been part of the E3 presentation in some way, shape, or form. It would have had the E3 letter and number on it. But, yeah, I do think that E3 picked the perfect year to kind of sit one out. And it looks like they may have won, honestly. I mean, with that too, it's like I feel like Keeley kind of had to sit this one in. It's like, no matter what, no matter at any point, if you looked at this, it was like, oh, I don't have a killer show.

You still got to do the show because you've got to build summer game fest. We're still in the infancy of this whole thing. So it's like I feel like I keep saying this, but I believe in Jeff. And I believe in this vision. And I believe that this is the winning format for this. It's just everything needs to kind of come together and people need to work together or else that's not going to work out, Andy. And the best thing you can do is make it shorter.

I think the biggest problem is that this was so extended. All these developer interviews, well, great. I love highlighting the devs. That needs to be what Paris's showcase was last year. Yeah. With longer looks into the game, talking about the mechanics, talking to devs about their situation and how they have been making the game and what their influences have been,

all of those little developer interviews need to be for a different show. and I think this could have been, yeah, an hour 15, an hour 30. At most. Break, break, you know, July 20th, Baron breakfast coming to Switch and Steam. Oh, yeah. Breakfast, July 20th, everybody's happening. Andy, I agree with you there.

I think you got to find a way to get that tighter. I think for the gamers on the outside, right, we all look at E3. We look at this summer presentation as, hey, we're hanging out together for a full week. We're in it to win and we're going to have a ton of fun. And so two hours to me isn't crazy, but two hours is crazy when you're not bringing the games.

and the fun, right? We're down to be here for 90 minutes and two hours because gamers want that. We wait all year for this big moment. And I'm down for that ride. But if you don't have it, then don't do it is right, Andy. And you said it so well. The dev diaries and the conversations just plummeted. But would that have been different if he had better games, right?

Would we be talking differently if a skate force showed up? And then the dev team came and talked about how rad it was, right? Like that would be a different issue than when we sit down and we talk about striking distancing Calista protocol that we saw three days ago and we have Glenn Showfield show up and it's just a small five minute conversation really about hey Jeff you're doing a great job that's about it it just was missing there with the fun to Tim's point right like this feels like a show that he had to do as opposed to a show that felt like everything lined up where he could show things off in a very exciting way

and I think a lot of that is the having kind of the rug pulled from it underneath them with the PlayStation's state of play happening beforehand like you know I think the point about E3 not happening this year and not kind of saving them. I think that lines up in a way where for the Jeff Keeley strategy, Summer Games Fest kickoff, I think last year was so dope because you did have a few Megaton reveals, right? And when I say Megaton, I'm mainly referring to the Eldon Ring gameplay thing, right? But then you also had Destrand, you had cool things here and there. But I think the Elder Ring thing gave him so much, so much juice that he wasn't able to cash in this time around in a way that would have, I think, really elevated Summer Games Fest kickoff. And so like,

having state of play happen, having that having, Colista Protocol, Street Fighter, I guess Last one's remake was, like, I don't know, I feel like there was so much missed opportunity in terms of, hey, let's be the first ones out, and let's have this be a party, that way that state of play can come after, and then, you know, have that follow-up of,

okay, here's last one, here's, you know, more Street Fighter stuff or whatever it is. It feels like this one felt forced in a lot of ways. I just want to bring in a V wildcard or I think it's two Vs making wildcard 777 in the chat said people were watching this in iMex and that's still that was so fucking funny to be like awesome like with that you're like telling people this is going to be a bigger than life show and that's people watch the show in iMX what you would be doing the next card pinot talking to the snack bar guy for a while yeah yeah but i mean it's interesting

to think about jeff and his shows in the past like what this one did differently and what this added and what this took away. Like there was no musical performance, which is rare for for Jeff. And I wonder what that was about. Like I wonder if it was feedback of people didn't like it or whatever or if they just didn't have anything interesting enough. It's that's the type of stuff that like kind of brings the hype and like connects things in a way that makes it feel a little bit bigger.

And instead we got the rock for three minutes. The new stuff didn't hit as much as I wanted it to also. Like the state of play we got Roller Drome and Eternites, which I know weren't mega ton announcements, but I feel like the ways that they were shown made them exciting stuff, at least for us. And looking through, those a stretch of this where it was flashback too, I don't think that hit for us, right? Fort Salas, which I think hit a little bit, but wasn't like a banger, at least for me. You got routine, you know, which looked a little bit interesting. You got Stormgate, which for us, I think, fell pretty flat.

You had high water, which I think spoke to Greg a bit. But I, like, I don't know, like this, the stretch of new stuff I didn't feel like was done justice. and it being squished together too, right? Like, you know, game we don't know after game we don't know after game that doesn't hype us up. I don't think was a good way to pace it. And I, like, again, it comes back to him maybe just not having the stuff. And maybe that even comes back to him, you know, setting expectations for, hey, guys, I know you guys are excited for this. Don't look forward to bangers, right?

Like, we're going to have some new stuff. We're going to have some exciting stuff. But don't think that this is going to be Megaton announcement after Megaton announcement. I think he knew what this was going in. But I don't know, man. Like, I feel like this could have came together way better. Maybe if they did pace it better or made it shorter. Yeah.

I said this a million times that I have over the last couple of years, but just because you set expectations does not excuse the fact that if you're putting out a show that you're expecting people to watch, you better make it entertaining and you're better bring the heat, especially in this competitive landscape where everyone's doing a showcase. Like, and especially when you have a platform as rich as Jeff Keely's at this point and the set and the stage and the production value and all this stuff, it's like, yo, All eyes on you. Like summer,

there is this debate now of E3 Summer Game Fest. What are we calling it? Like something might take over E3 in the video game industry and you have that. You've got to do something with it. And I don't think this is the worst thing possible, but it's definitely not really helping the argument for people of, does this show matter? Should it exist all that stuff?

But again, it requires teamwork across the industry for people to show up. And we're still feeling the ramification. of 2020 and we're going to continue to for a while. So the fact that everything's been delayed, everything's still getting pushed back, everyone's doing their, like, scrambling to figure out their own platforms

to be able to talk about games. It just stretches everything so thin. And that's the thing, like, I mean, like, I don't, we don't know behind the scenes for your summer game fest what it was, but it's Jeff's show, it's the internet. You figure he can make it as shorter as long as he wants it to be. And I really think that if,

stretch this thin. Yeah, you have to figure out a way to be like, all right, cool, here is the hour. You know what I mean? And do a pre-show and a post show that can feature the things that are paying the bills or the smaller things or the whatever. But yeah, if you're going to go to IMAX,

you want it to be a bop, blah, blah, blah. And you want it, if you want to capitalize on what the Game Awards is, what E3 was in its prime, like there's a mix in there to find to get to and do. And yeah, we keep bringing up, you know, that it's not all on, Jeff, it is the industry, yeah.

But then it is like, if the industry is bringing you all the stuff, you have to be traffic cop and put them in the right place and do whatever you need to do with it to be like, bam, this is what the shit's going to be. Yeah. So the IMAX point though, like I don't, I think that that is more just like a partnership deal.

Like I wouldn't be surprised if it like, why it didn't cost money or like if IMAX even paid for it. I think that's just getting things in theaters. You know, like we've seen it before with PlayStation doing like their events at theaters and stuff just to boost those numbers of how many people are watching. And it's just good selling points for the future. But it is still just, man, I'm very hopeful for Microsoft here.

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Banking services and debit card provided by the Bancor Bank or Stride Bank, Bank NA, members FDIC. Early access to direct deposit funds depends on your payer. And now that we're back, instead of going through game by game like we normally do on these things, just because I feel like you guys get it. You heard our thoughts on a lot of this stuff.

I just want to try to err on the side of positivity a bit for all of this, because there was a lot of really cool games shown, even if there wasn't really exciting news about them or whatever. But going through, I want to go around and talk to you guys about what you're most excited about from this show. Bless, let's start with you. Oh man. I actually don't know. That was one of the thoughts I had coming out of it. I was like, what was the big banger for me? I don't know if I don't know if I had one. I think I might just air on last was remake just because I know like even without even with that leaking for me that was still a hype moment. That was still a oh shit. All right, cool. We got it. Let's see the trailer. Okay. This looks great. And one thing I one thing I don't know if it was already in the trailer that leaked or feels here because I actually didn't watch the full thing when it originally leaked. But I like seeing the the side by side of what it looked like in 2013 versus what it's going to look like. in the new version. I am genuinely

excited for this. And granted, you know, when we first started talking about Last Just Remake, last year when the Jason Shryor report came through, I was like, I don't know if we need this. I don't know if I need this. I don't know if I want this, but I'm going to play it regardless because it's last of us and it's going to look great. That's still stands, right? Do we need this?

Do we, yeah, whatever? But you look at it like Last of Us with the engine in part two? Fuck yeah, okay, let's go. That's thing. Like, even in the footage that bear is showing right now, it looks so good. Like, the lighting looks great. Like, the models look great. and them talking about how, yeah, mechanically, in terms of the combat, in terms of how it moves and all this stuff, it's going to be a lot like Last and Spar 2.

That's enough to make me go, okay, cool, I can't wait for this fall. Yeah, bless even to your point talking about the comparison shots, which I really do think they should have shown in the trailer more. But that wasn't the 2013 version. Those comparisons were to the remaster on PS4, which is like even more impressive to think about, like, what would it have looked like if they were comparing the PS3 one? Andy, what gets you going?

I'm right there with Bless. I think honestly, the bigger announcement and the bigger sort of key takeaway for me is that this multiplayer game is more than just a 5V5 or 4v4 factions type game. The fact that it does look expansive and they are giving it its own thing, it seems to have kind of found it's a new life throughout this development cycle and the fact that it is going to be what I presume to be kind of. of like a division type shared world shooter. There will likely be a multiplayer aspect where you're still playing against people. But I think that sounds pretty badass and something that I'm really down for that I didn't necessarily know that I wanted. Whenever I think of a lot of these shared world shooter type games where you are playing a

survival type game with your friends in a post-apocalyptic world, it reminds you of Blizzard making their survival game where I'm like, Oh, we get to see what a AAA take on this looks like, or a quadruplea, whatever the fuck we're calling it now, where we always see a lot of indie titles and a lot of smaller devs take on this sort of genre, the division, notwithstanding. But now we get to see what a studio like Nottie Dog can do with this sort of genre. I think that sounds pretty awesome.

That's a pretty big takeaway. And I'm just looking at some of the smaller titles that would have been, I think, really dope if it was just in one of these smaller indie shows. showcases, I thought witch fire looked fucking cool. That looked like completely my bag. That looks really fun. That sort of fantasy first person shooter. The visuals in Fort Solis look really damn cool.

Very, I mean, again, you show that before routine, before Cliso Protocol, and then else starts to sort of melt together. And it's kind of a bummer for a lot of these titles because they do have very similar vibes. But I think it's just really dope that different, that we are sort of seeing this space futuristic horror renaissance that, you know, why does it have to be horror? But that's another thing we can talk about that later. Those are just some of the smaller highlights.

And I loved the gameplay look at Clisser Protocol, which we didn't get. We didn't only get the gorier version of the trailer. We got actual look at gameplay. And I think it looks pretty awesome. Mike. Yeah. when you have all three of those in the same showcase, very close to each other,

they just blend together and get kind of boring after a while. For me, I'm going to highlight one here before I get to the big one, of course, Alien Dark Descent. Aliens Dark Descent is actually something I am excited about. I did enjoy a little bit of fun nights with Alien Fire Team elites.

And now I have question marks of, what is Dark Descent? Is it a top-down twin-stick shooter? Will we see some sort of X-com-type vibe with a real-time strategy, you know, turn-based type of feel? I'm interested in what that is. I think Greg called out the twin stick shooter.

So it will be interesting to see what that is and stay in that aliens world. I like that a lot. And of course, the big dog, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. I was very excited to see that. I was happy to see that. I was let down, though. I think we kind of missed the hype and wow factor moments that we saw with the first reveal of Call of Duty Modern Warfare 1 in 2019 when we brought the reboot and revamped to it,

where we were wowed by that, right? the sound design, the moments of gameplay where you said, oh my gosh, they're kind of towing the line here pushing the limits. On this one right here, we went to kind of a dark, gray, watery type five. And we showed some cruel emerging gameplay with the ship moving in the box going back and forth. But I think here we should have gone a little bit more colorful, a little bit more pop and wow factor here to make it the blockbuster vibe that we know with Call of Duty. So yes, I was very happy to see the team. Right. I'm excited to see the task force. back again with the names we all know and love and some new names.

But at the same time, I think we went a little too dark and gray and not enough wow factor here for Call of Duty to really pop when it should have probably taken over this whole entire summer game showcase. I love what we saw just a little too long, Mike. Greg Miller. You know, obviously, closer protocol, I can't wait for. You've heard me talk about it now and stop my love affair with Dead Space and the devs store working on it.

But again, we've seen it before. Obviously, Last of Us, I'm in the Can for. Like, Bless said, I'm excited to play Last of Us Part 1. Okay, I love the gameplay of Part 2, so bringing that here. Sure, why not? And then the multiplayer stuff, that sounds cool, but it's just concept art. So honestly, the thing I'm walking away most excited for it, and I don't even know if it's because of the presentation at Summer Game Fest,

as much as everything surrounding it, is Marvel's Midnight Suns. Like, I'm a sucker for a superhero game. Everybody knows that. And the fact that this one, as we look at gameplay here, Barrett's got pulled up, is so, weird where it's like XCOM but you're using cards and you're going through and play i've been fascinated since we got announced and we've learned more and more about it and like i said previews are popping up from the event they held out on the east coast and what i found interesting is the opening

to IGNs right there lena hafer writes i was a bit blindsided by the news that the team behind xcom two was working on a marvel tactics RPG with a card-based battle system when i finally got my hands on Midnight Suns recently, I was even more surprised by just how much of an RPG it really is. With a fully exploreable quest hub, party member relationship side quests, and even a crafting system, this really is a first for for Axis. At times, it reminded me more of a bioware game than anything they've made before, and who doesn't want to hang out with Spider-Man? Like, the whole idea of you being the hunter character who is a daughter, a son or a daughter of Lilith, and Hydra's resurrecting her, and then yeah, you go through, and as it's been confirmed in this article,

you're then fighting yeah corrupted versions of venom Hulk scarlet witch like that sounds dope and it does sound different and it does sound weird and like I'm all for that I like to play that so that's the one I'm walking away from summer game fest going man I can't wait to get my hands on it yeah it looks it looks interesting I think story wise is it's what got me the most excited and I feel like since the beginning that's been the case I like the eclectic cast of characters like how they're using them the idea of some of the heroes kind of being evilized I'm here for um and yeah and yeah Spider-Man, all that stuff, like the voice sounds great. So there's a lot going here.

But I do think this is one of those bait-and-switch type things where you see this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This image or this video. And then you see the gameplay and you're like, okay, this is going to be a tough sell for me. You know, but I do think that they're offering a lot of stuff with that sale, where it's like, yo, look, they believe in the gameplay and they're doing something that's a little bit different with the card-based tactical stuff. But if they back it up with great characters and story and it is leaning more on the RPG side, like, yeah, I'm kind of interested in that. And that's, I'd love to sit down and do that.

right now and have storylines and, you know, grind out and build the character in a deck a certain way and see what goes on. So yeah. Yeah, for me, it's tough. Like I look at this and I feel like you guys have said everything that I'm looking forward to, Clistler Protocol looks awesome. The Last of Us remake,

I'm super in with any excuse to replay that game. I'm going to want that. The thing I'm most excited about is Neil saying that the HBO show news is coming sooner than we think. Like that gets you really excited. Makes me think we might get a January release date for it, may be February. And that sounds awesome.

Everything they said about it, I believe that. I believe the enthusiasm for this project. And I want it to be as special as we all know it can be. Because I think video games are super rad and have so much potential to be adapted into different mediums. And we're seeing them almost get it right, but I think last of us really can't be the one that gets it right.

And it seems like Neil believes in that. So that's great. But not seeing a teaser, not seeing anything that was a little bit of a letdown. And otherwise, you're just kind of like, hey, Tim, games you're excited about that are coming soon. You're still excited about them. Cuphead looks awesome. I love the level of animation in that boss fight. I love the verticality that we saw.

That's just in a couple weeks. So it's hard to kind of be mad about video games when we're so close to that. Shredder's Revenge looks rad. Love Casey being playable. Six-player co-op online. Looks like absolute insanity on the screen. But I was saying this in the live show that I was talking to Ash over at Good Bipes Game. who got to play it at Pax, and he was, like, blown away by it, uh, how good it is.

And he had so many nice things to say about, like, it, it really is kind of the definitive, uh, beat-em-up game, um, that people have been wanting for a long time with an IP that they love, like Ninja Turtles. Like, I know Imran loves Streets for Rage 4 a couple of years back last year. I don't know. He really loved it. And it seems like this is kind of taking everything that everyone loved about that and Scott Pilgrim and whatever and, like, really up in the ante with the Ninja Turtle rapping with

the nostalgic Ninja Turtles. What more could I ask for? But yeah, I didn't expect my most hype moments or most excited moments from this summer game fest to be Cuphead and Shredder's Revenge. But it's kind of where I'm at. Exciting month though, right? Like between Turner's. Leon White got a date too, which is really hyped, right?

And like the, which we'll call it DNF dual, Capcom fine name collection, Sonic Origins. Like it's a low key but high key month, right? Like a lot of different releases that are going to speak to hardcore fans. But they're all like varying levels of smaller to mid. but I'm, you know, super down for it. Yeah. Any other things that we want to shout out? To go back a little bit to the Lascus multiplayer thing, like that, to Andy's point of like,

yeah, this looks way more expansive and it looks like it's going to be more than just a 4-4 kind of thing. The concept art, I think speaks to that. And I think one of you guys mentioned division. And like we've been theorizing a lot of what is this game going to be? Is it going to be different modes? Is it going to be Battle Royale? Is it going to be a games as a service division type games?

And, you know, we don't really have any answers. But, you know, Neil talking about how, no, this is going to be as full as any other narrative, Nardi-Dong game. This is going to have story. It's going to have all that stuff. It does get me excited because I was kind of doubtful about a lot of that stuff. You know, I would think that if you're doing a multiplayer live game, that you'd lean in more to the systems and make it be this thing where you are, you do have a camp that you're going back to and you're coming out and you're doing different, you know, matches, modes, whatever, to then get resources to bring back to your camp to grow your camp. I don't think that they would do something along those lines, him talking about, no, there's a state. story here. Like there's something that we're doing and there's a whole new cast of characters,

all that stuff has me very excited because I think that means that they're going to do something that we've not seen before. And if they nail that and Nottie Dog, I think out of any studio could nail that. If they'd nail that, that's going to be very exciting. Yeah. And you know, to your point too, even just about like the way that they talked about all the stuff, like with how they talk about factions being a full ass game, which we all have kind of talked about and assumed at this point with things. But I think one of the values of having Neil on stage just talking to Jeff is maybe not the most exciting thing. And sure, just looking at one image of concept art for video games,

infinitely less exciting than watching a trailer, seeing gameplay or something. I do think it's kind of cool the amount of tidbits that we got, you know, like him talking about Nadi Dog is working on another game. And like, we all knew that, but now it's going to be fun to speculate over the next couple years. Like, what is that? Like, it's cool to get things confirmed that Factions is going to be a full-size title. Nottie Dog is now big enough that they can be working on multiple games.

We're getting last of us remake. I just think that it's cool that we're a lot of stuff we assumed is now confirmed and now we're going to be able to speculate in a more informed way. And that's stuff that you don't really get from blog posts and things like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course, of course. And him talking about the different directors that are working on each project. Like I felt a little bit like a tease because, you know, it being Neil there and him talking

about these two games that have other directors that aren't him and then him kind of talk about the show, I thought that they were going to. going to at least announce the new IP or next game or whatever, it lasts for three, whatever the thing Neil's working on is. It has to be curious when we do see that, though, you know, him actually saying that he's working on something or that they're working on something has to be thinking that we'll see it sooner than later, maybe 20, 24 or in 2023. I think Keyley tried his best.

Go for Andy. I was saying, I think Keyley tried his best to get any sort of tidbit there. Shout out to Keyley for like giving it a shot. because who knows, maybe, you know, maybe they're having, they're having hors d'oeuvres and, you know, drinks back in the, in the little chill-out area in the green room, Tim. Maybe Neil had a few. Maybe Neil wants to discuss the new IP they're working on.

You never know. But he did say that the multiplayer, whatever, or whatever they end up calling it, that we're going to hear more next year. But I think that that's kind of like him putting that date. See a lot of it next year. Yeah, we're going to see a lot of it next year. It's like that kind of is a fun speculation thing. Like that's, you know, for us kind of looking at it.

Like, it reminds me like Final Fantasy 16 where they're like, yo, we're going to talk about it in the spring. And it's just like this known quantity for us to kind of like talk about on all these different game shows. For sure, for sure. He, uh, Neil said, you know, you'll see you next summer games fest or something along those lines, right? Like, I can't wait to show it to you at a future summer games. Do you think there's anything there? Do you think like they really aren't talks?

Do you think that's just him talking? I think that's just people on stage talking. It's not. Yeah, it's not now. I'm not talking about it now. Yeah. Yeah. He met like later in a different year.

I hope that like this summer game fest live, not being a banger, doesn't dissuade PlayStation or other big companies like showing up. Because that's a thing that I've been, you know, thinking about in terms of Eldon Ring being last year, oh, you got the juice down, bringing the bangers this year. I feel like the last list remake didn't land. And that's mostly on PlayStation's fault because of the leak from PlayStation Direct. But I wonder if that does anything in terms of conversations with the leak, but then also the buildup not necessarily being a thing that has everybody.

on the internet hyped about it. I don't think there's a chilling effect because you know what's going to happen is next week, maybe tomorrow, but probably next week, there'll be the press release that Summer Game Fest brought in X amount of millions of people and it was up this percentage. And that's what it's all about. And next, you know, we're not goldfish in terms of like forgetting that this summer game festival was what we wanted to be.

But next year, when it is, people have been the games that got delayed and the announcements that weren't where they wanted to be. And when it lines up better for Jeff to be like, like, okay, cool, or for the industry to be like, okay, cool, here's some real cool shit for you to have if they deliver on that. I mean, we'd be reacting. You'd be watching or listening. Like, it would be the same thing.

Yeah, it's a bummer to think about the fact that, like, even just Keeley stuff is now stretched across three shows a year, right? With Game Awards, opening night live and this. And it's just like, I don't know how sustainable that is, but I understand that he's just trying to get the market share right now. And you really have to do that to be able to continue. Because, like, we're looking at game awards now. And it's like, is that going to be one with a lot of bigger announcements or is this year kind of just a wash at this point of what we're trying to get?

And even saying that, I feel spoiled as shit. Like, so many games are so great. And like next year is about to be incredible in terms of the games that we're playing. We said that last year. Yeah, but like to a different extent though, right? Like, I feel like now there's like now there's the stuff that originally was 2023 and all the stuff there's 2022 pushed into that. where I feel like we've been talking a lot about the phases of these announcements of this, this now current gen consoles with PS5 and Xbox Series X where all of the big heavy hitter

first party titles that were announced at those initial reveals are coming out, right? Like God War Ragnarok is essentially the end of that. Xbox kind of has its own thing going on with like the Hellblades and Perfect Darks and stuff like that. But like eventually we're going to need to get the next wave of PlayStation titles, right? And clearly this year is not the time to make those announcements. So you've got to imagine it'll be next year. You got to get it across.

You got to get it across. You know what I mean? You got to get across. How did this sell you all ongoing live next year if you were a fan? That's my big thing is this was the year he announced. Next year we're doing this in person. What you just watched there is that going to get the millions of fans out there to go, man, I believe in that.

I got to go to that, right? Because E3 is already a proven entity. Right. As a fan who win in 2019, it was the dream come true, even though people from the industry say, oh, it wasn't as good as years past, right? At least we have the proven groundwork of what that could be. Now Jeff Keely, after this year, says he's going to do this in next summer in person. You want to be there. Does that sell you on, oh, I got to go. I got to spend all my hard earned money to show up to that? I don't think this does anything for that. I think people are going to pay money to go regardless. if they were set ongoing that this seat like you're going to go to a convention regardless.

And it could be that people maybe just want to check out the show floor and hang out with friends. Like I don't necessarily think that this is indicative that every event from here on out is going to be kind of this level of hype. You know what I mean? Like who knows what I happen to next year, you know, could be better. It's just the time frame. You know, fans only have so much to go to. They can only go to one or two, right? And now we're all competing for this June,

second week of June summer instance here. And now you got a battle up against E3 and Jeff Keeley. Who's going to win out with that? Who's really going to come out and say, oh, that was the best summer experience? I mean, the thing is the in-person experience of E3 is such a different thing than what the majority of the world thinks E3 is, right? Like to the majority of the world,

E3 is a series of press conferences. and then reading and watching a bunch of previews of journalists playing video games, right? Like they've had their public access for the last couple years where people can go and play games and stuff. But like, I don't think E3 can ever be much better than it's ever been. And I don't think that whatever Keeley does can either. Like, at the end of the day, it is just a bunch of advertisers with boots and then a bunch of games that you can stand in line to wait and play a vertical slice of. of and like those are going to range from there's going to be a couple booths like i'll never forget the sky room booth right where it was just like holy shit like that was the thing of e3

that was like a big get otherwise it's just like yeah you go to playstation's booth and it's just a whole whole bunch of TVs with controllers next to them you can kind of test out a bunch of games like if e3 is back in physical form next year that's what it's going to be and i think jeff will have the exact same thing i don't think it's going to be much exclusive content at this place or this place. But I don't know. I know we're talking about a lot of like higher level stuff right now, but just really quick,

because I don't know if we talked about it specifically, Gregi. Like they showed more Gotham Knights today. Even as the Batman fanboy, even the show, we were like kind of indicative of the show as a whole. I was just like, yeah, all right. Yeah, Paris said it really well, right?

The more they show of this, the less interested he gets. The more they show of it for me, I'm just like, yeah, I mean, I'm going to play. It's a Batman. but I don't look at this and I'm not excited. I don't have any of the,

and I'm not even, I don't have any of the hype I had for the Arkham games. And I know, oh, some of the best games of all time. Toss Arkham origins in there. I just mean looking at it and going like, man,

the combat looks fantastic. Like this looks like, and I know I'm the expert in it, this looks like Avengers in a lot of ways, right? I'm like, all right, some cool skins and I get to go beat up bad guys and be a hero.

I like, all right, like, hopefully we get it and it's not that. But like, I say all that and you compare it to Midnight Sun. And I'm like, Well, Midnight Suns has a weird control scheme and a whole RPG system later on top.

This is when I look at it and I'm like, yeah, okay, I'm beating the shit out of people and it's co-op if I want it to be and I'm leveling up. The UI looked awful for that and Batman is clearly not dead. Like, I can't wait for when they're going to reveal it. It's a weird monkey spa that I've gotten. Like, I've wanted WV Montreal to make a game that was just their own not tied to the Rock City universe

and stuff like that and, you know, still have some sort of fun Batman combat. and that's what we're getting, but it's just not, I don't know. It's, like, when they first showcased it, you know, what was that? Like two years ago, I think, at this point, maybe just a year ago. I was really excited just because we finally got the announcement after all of those weird teases for like a year and a half. And, yeah, just the more we're getting to it, like October is four months away.

And I'm like, yeah, all right. Like, I can kind of wait for that. Yeah, like, even Arkham Origins, man, when that was the first non-rock City game, that was like every trailer was like holy shit inject this into my veins right now and unfortunately you know four months out from you know their first game outside of the rock city universe i'm just kind of whatever um it's seeming really underwhelming bear like it is it's getting to the point where when you as a batman fan or anybody as batman fans are watching all these reveals for these new arkham games coming out it's the story that's really pulling you

you in. You're seeing characters. You want to be in that world. And with this sort of teasing the court of owl stuff, you were so hyped about seeing that storyline brought to life in a video game. Yeah. And all of these sort of like this just looks like an arcade game at this point. It looks like there's no substance there. When it comes to the story, I do believe in that team because I would argue that Arkham Orisons is like just story wise, one of the better Arkham games. And I do, I do believe they have something in there. But the only thing, the story wise, that they're really like hammering down on is that Batman is dead and they're not

like really showcasing the court of owls and like how that's all connecting to stuff and like I get it. Hopefully that works to its favor. Maybe our expectations are low and we get in there and it is a full blown Batman Arkham story. You know what I mean? Batman story. We're like, holy shit. Yeah, this is great. It's just all the advertising has looked like games as a service game.

Yeah. Yeah, Andy, you actually said something that like I think is totally hitting the nail on the head, which is like it looks like an arcade game. It looks like an arcade games of a service type thing. Like, Barrett, if you can bring up the trailer, there was one thing that really stood out to me, uh, towards the end of it, where we see Nightwing fighting, uh, a bigger brute and, uh, he had like a shield type thing. Yeah.

And like, like, looking at that, I'm like, yo, this is like one of the most generic looking ass dudes to beat up I've ever seen. And like, sure, Spider-Man has that, right? Where it's like, you're facing off against the, the convicts that escape the prison and there's the big guy. There's the, there's the arcotypes, whatever. But the flow of the combat. They weren't showing those.

Yeah. In the trailers, right? Those are just the bad guys you face. In the trailers, they were showing the fucking Sinister 6. You know what I mean? Like, it just seems kind of weird for this to be like the feeling like the 18th trailer they've shown in this game. We're so close to it. And it's like, wow, the big moment of the end of this trailer is him fighting generic guy.

A shield dude. And he's going to have a skull above his head because he's an elite. And he's like, you don't know what level he is, you know? Yeah. I think it's showcased well the first time they should gameplay with, uh, why am I blanking? Robin and Back girl.

I thought that stuff looks cool and ever since then, I don't know, it's slowly and slowly getting a little more generic for me, but we'll see when it finally comes out. The last question I have for you guys before, I'm sure you guys have closing thoughts.

Again, kind of relating to the showcase, but kind of not, where the fuck's got a bore? Like you telling you, Stan Boy. I mean, I really think at this point, they, such a broken record here, but they're holding on to 2022, they still believe it's 2020.

And I think the moment they can lock that, we're just going to hear about it. I think that they're ready to go. And yeah, I think plus is right. Like I think I would not be surprised if the state of play of God of War is essentially finished. And it's just what is the date that they need to to put on that thing. Yeah, like I think

they're probably floating because there's been rumors and all this stuff. And I don't know how much of that is accurate or not. But like, people are talking about it slipping into next year, early next year. I think regardless, if you look at history, right, for Horizon Forbidden West, which is their previous big exclusive, that was shown off at a state of play back in, what, like, May, maybe like April, the prior year. And that was the, hey, here's a big breakdown of what gameplay looks like. It was like 15 minutes or whatever. Here's what gameplay looks like in Horizon Midwest.

Here's the date. Here's all that stuff. You know, I think even if God of War slips into early 2023, I think you still see a state of play, maybe summer, late summer, or whatever, breaking down, hey, here's some more stuff about God. of war, whether it's, you know, a little bit more story tidbits, whether it's some gameplay, whatever it is, and go, and it's coming out either this fall or it's coming out, you know, when I say this fall, I mean like an actual date or it's coming out February, you know, whatever it is. Yeah.

And like I was saying, like we're need to get a phase four update for, not phase four, next phase update for PlayStation games. And the last two years, we've gotten PlayStation showcases, right, that weren't state of plays that were more first party focus where we get the Wolverine revealed, and Spider-Man 2 reveal and all that stuff, I don't have confidence that we're necessarily going to get one of those this year. And I feel like, based on patterns, we will, but I wouldn't be surprised with where games are at and everything,

if that just ends up edging into, like, February or something next year, which is something Nintendo has had happened to them a lot in the past, where they used to have, like, a bigger, like, August-type direct where they would, like, talk about a bunch of games, but eventually that got more into the January to March era, But again, everything has no rules at this point. Like anyone can do a blog post or a tweet and announce the biggest game ever or to have a state of play, whatever the hell they want, you know, with 24 hours notice of announcing it.

Forget everything you know. Forget everything you know. Does anyone have any final thoughts on all of this? I'm looking forward to Xbox. Looking forward to Xbox, man. Let's go. Let's know in the comments below what you thought about Summer Game Fest. 2022, the showcase specifically, and what your expectations are for the Xbox showcase that we know

is coming this Sunday. And then what else do we got? Capcom on Monday. That's it, right? Those are the big ones we're doing. There's a million other things getting peppered in there. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let us know.

But until next time, I'll love you all. Goodbye.