Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Grading the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:07 What's up everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Gamescast for Wednesday, April 2nd, 2025. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller, alongside no one at the moment. Of course, this is a very special games cast. We have been live for the past hour. Plus, reacting to the Nintendo Switch to reveal the direct to end all directs. And of course, when we end that, we go right into the gamescast post show. So I said, everybody get your coffees, go to the bathroom. I can kick this off and remind everybody that this.
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Starting point is 00:01:46 We're going to want your reviews of the Nintendo Switch Direct, your reviews and questions about the Nintendo Switch to what you thought of Mario Kart, what you thought of Donkey Kong. There's a lot to cover, and we will be doing that for quite some time before, of course, Gary Wittah comes in with Paris Lily to do your
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Starting point is 00:02:18 Anatoly asked Delaney Twining, Carl Jacobs, and Omega Buster. Today, we're brought to you by Lost Skies, Monaco II, and Rocket Money, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show. Andy, you've done it. You've lived the Nintendo Switch 2 direct. And I would be a fool to ask you, what was the best thing you saw? because I assume you're going to nerd out about this from software game.
Starting point is 00:02:47 The Dusk Bloods? Great name. Great name. A exclusive Nintendo game directed by Miyazaki. Yeah. I could not have predicted, you could not have said anything more wild than that to me. Yeah, what if this morning I had said that to you of like, I heard this. I heard this rumor.
Starting point is 00:03:06 That's absolutely insane. Yeah. Hollow Night Silk Song being in a. fucking Supercut unbelievable this is this is insane
Starting point is 00:03:17 I couldn't tell because of the art direction initially on it didn't have the makings and looks of Can I interrupt you? I have breaking I have breaking news
Starting point is 00:03:28 from my press release Holy shit Nintendo Switch 2 launches June 5th at 449 99. I called it! There you go everybody
Starting point is 00:03:38 449 999 Tim said I was crazy. You know what? He also said, he also said beer. That's a different conversation. That's a different conversation
Starting point is 00:03:46 about what's happening over there. Yes, for official press release here from Nintendo, 449. 99. We will make sure we update all of our panelists as they make their way back in here and there is so much to dig through.
Starting point is 00:03:59 You're happy with that price. Yeah. I was thinking $3.99. I was pretty confident in $3.99. $3.99 would have been lovely, obviously. I think I am not surprised by the extra 50, especially with everything, getting more expensive with tariffs.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm not surprised by that at all. That's what I said when we were predicting it. They call me a madman. I don't know they called you a madman. Tim was like, you're crazy is what he told me. He did that like, you're crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Why is he like that? I don't know. Why doesn't you just believe us? And I was like, the only reason it's crazy to me is that it's not a round, pretty looking number. Yeah, yeah, I can give you that.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I can give you that. I can see that. 449 is just kind of odd for a starting, just visually, aesthetically, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:34 of course. But it just made sense to me with how, I also think they take it as a nice excuse to just go like, look, things are crazy, man. We tried. And again, it's such an easy out of like, listen, we tried. Yeah, tack on 50 bucks.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I'm not surprised by that. I think if it were anything over 500, I would have been kind of like, oh shit, that's that's wild. But this makes sense to me. I super stoked by all the specifications we saw. Can't believe that they went that
Starting point is 00:05:03 deep into it. We'll get into all, into all that later obviously, but still kind of shocked that we see 120 hertz on the screen. The fact that they're even showing off information like that just feels so anti-Nintendo and I'm happy that it happened anyway because I'm
Starting point is 00:05:19 a nerd for that shit. This is super exciting. Cat, I don't know if you saw that 449-99. 4-49. Yeah, 450. Is that the bundle? That there's no man, I'm getting this information live and no, that is not the bundle according to what I'm seeing. I quickly went through
Starting point is 00:05:35 trying to find if they have a bundle price in here, but it does not look like that. So that's not the base version. This is $4.99. Wow. The bundle is $4.99. That's what Toby Blue says. I mean, Toby Blue, I can trust. 449.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So more expensive than people thought. Yeah, yeah. Mike, how does that sit with you, 449-99 for the Nintendo Switch 2? You know what? They showed off the goods. They showed the upgrades that I wanted. They impressed me in certain areas. They, you know, it's worth it.
Starting point is 00:06:03 4-49 sounds right to me. I'm on board. We are, of course, going to run through this announcement by announcement, game by game, news tidbit by news tidbit. But of course, this is the kind of funny games cast where we go through and give these review scores. We do want to know on the kind of funny review scale, patented scale, 20 point scale. What do we think of this one? I'm going to start with you, Andy Cortez. This is the most 10 out of 10 masterpiece.
Starting point is 00:06:26 10 out of 10 masterpiece. Wow. You cannot show off an exclusive Miyazaki led from soccer game that. That came out of nowhere and have it not be a 10 out of 10. Of course, Hollenide being in the super in the super cut, in the, you know, just a little small cameo.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Just dropping it in, Kat Bailey calling it immediately as it popped up. You know, this would have been an 11 out of 10, like Mike's hype level for this. This would have been 11 if we got any sort of look at a new Zelda or whatever. I guess I expected Mario Odyssey, but, or a Mario sequel,
Starting point is 00:07:01 having that DK thing looks phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. to see how that looks. And again, just everything they showed off spec-wise, 4K60 or 1080p-120 as options, absolutely wild. Sunning, I am so stoked.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Dude, Metroid Prime 4 with a keyboard mouse, or not keyboard mouse, but you know what I mean, mouse control. We're going to call a keyboard mouse. That's fine. They were fine with that.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Fuck, I'm just ecstatic right now, man. Very, very happy. Snowbike, Mike. You've never been known as the biggest Nintendo fan or Switch fan. What would you give this? I'm going to give this a 9 out of 10. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:34 This was a very, very good presentation. The Nintendo Switch 2 did kind of wow me, not super well, but like it impressed me with the specs that I wanted to see from this in today's age of all these next-gen consoles. They showed off the games, which is what I was really impressed with. They have a strong third-party support system right now, especially at launch, which is what I want when I jump into a new console for this price. I want to make sure I have the games ready to rock and roll.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And yeah, I mean, nothing beats a cool Donkey Kong. high rule warriors I'm into I've been really loving Dynasty Warriors so I'm excited to jump into that there were some things that didn't impress me right that the communication social hub wasn't wowing in 2020 you don't want to get the camera
Starting point is 00:08:17 so that that is why I'm not going to give it a 10 out of 10 I think this interesting social hub is fun it's cool maybe for families and friends but I think in 2025 this isn't wowing us like it did with the Nintendo Switch one where you go oh my gosh Nintendo is really doing something here.
Starting point is 00:08:34 How do you improve on greatness? It's tough. It's difficult. I get it. But an amazing conference nonetheless. It was a lot of fun. Before I get your review score, Kat, and it is on the big screen, which Bear can throw back up if you don't know our review scale, which I appreciate.
Starting point is 00:08:46 It also is in this press release pre-orders start in North America on April 9th. So we are correct, yeah, one week from today. Oh, my birthday. Oh, happy birthday. Really quick. No snaps. Like we had the snap sound, but nobody.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Nobody did the snap. Yeah, yeah. Of course, of course. Cat Bailey, of course, you are from Acts of the Blood God podcast. Thank you so much. You're a big Nintendo fan. What would you rate this Nintendo Switch direct? 9.75?
Starting point is 00:09:11 We don't do that. We do 0.5s. You can do 9.5. You do it if you're on. You're the guest. Yeah, I'll give it a 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10, a masterpiece. It answered a lot of questions for me.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And I think 120 FPS is low-key, really awesome. The screen is a lot better than I thought. I went and going, I don't know if the screen is. It's just enough of an upgrade. and I think it really is. And we were kind of expecting what? An Xbox Series S equivalent, but on Nintendo Switch, I think that's
Starting point is 00:09:38 good enough, generally speaking. I think the game lineup was awesome. Oh my gosh. I mean, getting a from software game was a huge surprise. Insane. Brand new, too, and directed by Miyazaki. I'll do respect to some of the folks that work under him. I always thought he was kind of a little too busy
Starting point is 00:09:54 these days to do anything but the really big ones. And it's an exclusive. I assume the timed exclusive. exclusive, but bringing the goods right there. That's what, I mean, yeah, giving people a reason right to believe in the switch and believe in the third party support, yeah, for sure. Pro controller with back buttons. Oh my God. Insane, right? Yeah, and think about that, too. It's the first, like, I would say, I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:13 I guess kind of it's optional, but it's the first like controller from any of the big three that is, hey, we have the back buttons as the default. This isn't the elite. This isn't an upgrade. This isn't something that's coming later. This is you can get it right now and go with it. I guess they call it a pro, but, you know, but still, I'm with you. Yeah, you know what I mean. More expensive than expected. Yeah, at 449. A little bit light on the storage capacity. Like, I think the steam deck that I bought was literally double than that, for example.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Sure. I did spend a lot more money on it. And, but on the flip. And no smash in this one. Yeah, yeah. Which I guess was kind of expected. Smash didn't come around until the year after. And Sakurai is seemingly busy.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And you know what? I'm going to give you, Sakurai, if anybody, deserves a lot of grace. So please go follow your bliss. Go make Kirby air writers. Whatever that let you do. Put a Switch 2 version of Smash Ultimate out there is kind of all I ask, really. And that's got to be coming. And melee on GameCube. GameCube NSO is a big deal for me personally.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I do have questions for that, but we can get to that later. And the mouse is really cool. Yeah. Yeah. The mouse and key pad or mouse and switch, whatever, for Prime 4. Really cool. One of the things I want to argue myself, I said first controller that would have it, right, but not in a lead or something like that.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Of course, as we predicted, you can use your Nintendo Switch Pro Control. your joycons, etc. From your Switch 1 with your Switch 2. So I guess technically then this would be
Starting point is 00:11:36 an upgraded version of the Switch 2. I've printed off for everybody the official press release here from Nintendo which is a Bible of information
Starting point is 00:11:43 on all the games as we continue to dig through it run through it. For my money I would say that this is a 9
Starting point is 00:11:52 0.5 out of 10. Hey, you can't do that. I can. I can. I just did it. We do 0.5s. Yeah, not points out.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That's where I was getting you. That's where I was getting you. Can I change my 9.5 as well? Yeah, nobody's locked in. I want to be 9.5 too then. He's crazy. He's really crazy. It's 7 a.m. What a direct. You know what I mean? Like I think again, like, this is always so difficult
Starting point is 00:12:16 to get all this information out there about it. I think, you know, especially for Nintendo, who is classically bad at really delivering this, when they went into the breakdown of the, here's what the switch two is and it was that polished package of this, that this, blah, blah, blah. And then the game line up, yeah, I thought was really impressive. Even when, when
Starting point is 00:12:31 We got to, okay, oh, it's going to be Mario. Oh, it's Donkey Kong. I was immediately like, I'm not a big Donkey Kong guy watching that trailer. I'm like, I got to play this. This looks awesome. Tearing apart the world, tearing apart all the stuff, then just the action in there. Like, that looked incredible. And if that's going to deliver on what it looks to me like a Mario, right?
Starting point is 00:12:48 And if it's going to be that kind of experience, but obviously so different because it's Donkey Kong, I'm all about that. Let alone everything we saw before, let alone, yeah, Nintendo Switch two enhanced editions, which we will talk about how we feel about what they're going to price that at. Maybe that's in here as well. I haven't had the chance to dig through this in any entire way. A really, really amazing showcase, I think, from Nintendo to set the bar for what they're doing here. And even though I wanted $3.99 for this, I'm not mad at $450.
Starting point is 00:13:13 You know what I mean? I think, again, it speaks to, of course, yeah, tariffs and everything else and what's going to happen here. But I can do $450, no problem for what they're talking about, what they're selling here. A lot of people weren't expecting, a lot of people thought, well, okay, Nintendo is doing a lot of their manufacturing in Vietnam, so they might be able to get around the tariffs and stuff like that. but 450, I guess, is kind of expected. Everything has just been getting more expensive in general. Yeah, sadly. But if you compare it to a lot of the dedicated handhelds out there, PC handhelds, it's not that bad, ultimately.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, Mike, are you happy with 450? Yeah, I'm happy with 450. I think that falls right in line in the console market, right? I don't think you can be too mad at that. I know we want it on the cheaper side of things coming off of the switch one compared to, you know, or Sony and Xbox. But where I'm at right now when I look at the series X as you brought up in the series
Starting point is 00:14:07 S, I'm happy with where this is kind of putting itself. And yeah, it's the next generation of Nintendo. I think things are all going up in the world. So $50 increase is not killing me and not hurting my heart there on that one. All right, everybody. Then it's time to start wading through all of this information. Of course, Chad, I see you out there popping off. I like that.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I do want your reviews as I asked to the top. Immediately boycott Activision says $450 for mouse and old tech, too expensive. Two mad emojis right there. So you get that all set there in terms of what they think about it. George Huffman says physical games will cost more than digital. Dot, dot, dot. We'll see if that's confirmed.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Joey D says, I doubt the mouse mode will be smooth and comfy though, Andy. Okay. Andy, this is an interesting one in Cat, too. TR, pick says, unlike Bloodbourne, do you all think from Soft is keeping the rights to the new games? Yes. I think they want to. I think they've learned a lesson it too.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's jump into it and start going blow by blow then, as we have said as we get into this. We began with, of course, Mario Kart World. I think again, Andy, you nailed it at the end there. How did none of us guess this name? Yeah. I think we went with cross-country. We went with
Starting point is 00:15:25 I think Blessing said cross-world. And we're like, wait, no, that's the son. game or whatever the hell. Yeah, Mario Carroll just makes so much sense. I don't know why it just was the most obvious option and none of us even thought of it. But it looks great. I think that was my hope when we were kind of
Starting point is 00:15:41 first shown it was I kept on bringing up the Forza thing. If they could do anything similar to Forza, even just this free roam mode hanging out with your friends and driving going off of ramps and just doing photo mode, it looks so much fun. And having this large interconnected map
Starting point is 00:15:56 with a bunch of different tracks sort of being all over the place. I love seeing that world map later on in the little trailer that we saw. This looks fun as hell. I can't freaking wait. Yeah, I'm really excited about it. Let me give you the official description here from the press release. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Put the pedal of the medal in Mario Kart World, brand new experience set in a vast interconnected environment. Race seamlessly across connected courses that deliver Mario Kart racing like never before. 24 drivers can't compete in a race. Participate in the new knockout tour mode, where you'll barrel through back-to-back courses and chat. with no pit stops along the way. If a player doesn't make it to each checkpoint at a high enough placement, they will be
Starting point is 00:16:35 eliminated. And in free roam, it's possible to go off the racetrack and drive in any direction you wish. Explore areas that peak your interest and take some photos at scenic spots with a group of friends. Mario Kart World races on a Nintendo Switch 2 on June 5th. More details will be revealed in the Mario Kart World direct presentation, April 17th, that's 6am Pacific. What I get, I mean, I love Mario Kart, period. What makes me excited about this one is the idea that, hey, when you're going to free roam, I bet that's where we unlock a bunch of cool stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I'm going to go out there and find. We saw, you call it out, Andy, in this, we saw us, you know, wearing different outfits as the traditional characters. I bet that's the kind of stuff you got to go out and actually noodle and find in the open world. I think it's going to be great for families as well, especially when I think of you and Ben, right, of like, hey, let's put down the race and we don't have to stress about time or loud. That's why I love forza.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Go explore. And I think, yeah, we talk about Forza. I think that is a big win here, especially Nintendo. We think of these family-friendly games. We think of these moments that you get to share. When you put away the competitive side of things and you can just have fun and enjoy the scenery, I think that is a massive win right there. Yeah, and I think it really opens the door for more of a single-player experience.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Traditionally, Mario Card has been race the tracks, have fun with your friends. And that's fine and everything. But having an actual campaign, if they decide to have that in there with hidden items and collectibles, I think that's the upgrade that we really need from a series that last soft. a major release more than a decade ago at this point, which is wild. It's older than kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:18:03 We don't bring that up. Of course, there's one psycho. We all know and love about Mario Kart. His name's Barrett Courtney, of course, the boss baby, the CEO Jr. How you feeling, Barrett? Feeling great about Mario Kart World.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I actually want to take it somewhere else, though, really quick Mario 64 post. Nintendo Switch 2 on My Nintendo Store. Invites will go out to people who register their interest. Register here. first come first serve basis to registrants who have purchased a Nintendo Switch Online
Starting point is 00:18:30 membership with a minimum of 12 months NSO and 50 hours of gameplay as of April 2nd. So in terms of I assume pre-ordering through Nintendo themselves, I think this is how they're going to try to fight scalpers at least on their end. Yeah, so. Yeah, I think it's one
Starting point is 00:18:48 of those you can roll your eyes at and laugh at, which is true, but it is like, we, the big problem has been people saying, what about scalper? Scalpers are going to do this X-Z. Val did the same thing. I just wanted to throw that out there for people watching, but not the scalpers. I'm opening up my authenticator. I got to get in. I got to go on the list.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Bear, what did you think of, I want your score for the direct, and I want to know what you think of the world. The score, I would say a nine. I think it was amazing. I think there's definitely some questionable things there. Purely just Wind Waker coming through GameCube Nintendo Switch. Again, I feel like those Wii U ports never actually existed, the HD versions of those games, and we just got fed bad info when I was at IGN, fucking seven years ago at this point. That hurt, but I had a fucking fantastic time hanging out with y'all watching this.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Getting a Donkey Kong 3D platformer game in the year 2025, again, like I said, in the reacts, like Blessing and I are thriving. You know, we've been waiting for something like this since Donkey Kong 64. so that's awesome. Like, you know, I'm glad to take a break for a bit to, you know, give Donkey Kong some love. Sure. You think we can all collectively thank Seth Rogan
Starting point is 00:20:05 and this is not even me joking. Like, just the movie in general for making Donkey Kong, like, I feel like that has a major tie-in, the fact that not only DK World, that would have been planned for a while, though. I think, I think in general he's part of Nintendo's vision to revitalize. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:20:22 That's what I'm saying. I don't think it's the, like, the reaction to the movie because we've been hearing rumors about a Donkey Kong platformer for like five years at this point so, uh, or movie had to have been in development since then too.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah, like four years or something like that. The movie is a piece of a plan to try and make Donkey Kong a more vital character again in 2025. Because he kind of got lost a little bit in the mix with Mario. Mario definitely overshadowed him. Yeah. But Donkey Kong still a really important character. Yeah. And like definitely
Starting point is 00:20:53 like once they stopped working with rare. Taking the 64 out of it, like, with country and all that stuff, like, it definitely felt like they were struggling to, like, really push DK, and so I'm, you know, I'm happy with that plan. Um, exclusive from soft game on the Switch 2, awesome, all that stuff. But to bring it back to Mario Kart, uh, yeah, I'm very excited. I'm glad to, you know, uh, eat Crow on the whole, like, uh, thinking of the openness of the game was, uh, being overblown, but that's a cool way to kind of change things up, like after Mario Kart 8 feeling kind of like, kind of like, the pinnacle of what we've had so far.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Them doing something different with it, I think is rad, and I'm excited to get new courses. Honestly, that's just what I need. I loved eight, but we've had it for 12 years at this point. So I'm ready for something new and different. Dynamic weather.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Dynamic weather is crazy. Wall riding. Looked great. Also, I'm just really quick on the hardware. Excited for all that. I will never use that fucking chat option, probably ever. But everything else, like 120 20 hertz and handheld 4K60 in dock mode. All of that sounds really cool, really exciting.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Oh, God, yeah, look at all these cups. Look at all those different tracks. Look at all these racers, of course. Come on now. But no dry bones. Didn't see dry bones, so it's kind of offensive that I can be a cow. I love that. Yeah, I can be a penguin, but I can't be dry bones.
Starting point is 00:22:15 The cow from Moomoo Meadows? I know. I respect the cow. Fuck yeah, duh. You're like looking at the totem pole hierarchy that dry bones is maybe below the cow. pushed up. That's crazy. Cow's out on an historic run. Not about that life.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Not about that life whatsoever. Yeah, and these costumes are cool addition, too, as somebody who likes to, you know, switch it up as much as possible, make it look cool up there. I like seeing the boats. Was that in the last one? Being to, like going to, like boat mode when you jump in the water. I like that a lot. If anything, they're going Diddy Kong racing.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yes, exactly. Yeah, I really enjoyed seeing that. Yeah. I'm pumped on just, it feels fresh. Like Barrett and you have said, it's like, that's an old game that we've all loved, and I can't wait for something new. Them going boat mode makes me think like Nintendo, it's time. Bring wave race back.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Let's go. Hydro thunder. Bring it back. 1080 snowboarding. We do have a hot take for you here. Hot breaking news. According to Jeff Keely, digital games on the Nintendo Switch 2 are now $80.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Okay. That's pricey. They just skipped the fucking 70. Mario Car World will retail for $80 for the digital edition. Then he follows up with a separate tweet. recapping everything and dropping at the end of their digital games are now $80. That's a that's big news, honestly. Well, terrorists, the import costs for the digital code.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Does that shift? Yeah, the whole game industry where we start seeing that on the next wave. This is everybody's going to start doing this soon. And GTA6 is going to be $100, like mark it down. So if anything, it's, so Nintendo, it's surprising to see Nintendo setting the bar early because traditionally they've been the more affordable alternative console, the one that you would get in addition to a PS5. But this is where the games industry is trending at this point.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah, this is an interesting wrinkle. And I know Jeff's saying that, apparently he has it for Mario Kart. I'm interested to see where he's getting that where. I mean, not that I don't believe him, but is it just Mario Kart world? Is it just in contendos stuff? Is it everybody moving where it's going? Well, it makes the bundle a lot more appealing because you get Mario. You get $50 for Mario.
Starting point is 00:24:20 You're going to buy that no matter what. So there you go. I think just going back to when Tears of the Kingdom releases and that's going, oh, that's the first $70 Nintendo game ever, that's got to be the new standard. And Nintendo said, nope, let's push it $10 extra. That's kind of shocking. That sucks, honestly. I don't love that.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But they also know that they can do it. Of course. And they will sell a lot of copies. People complain. There will be a lot of complaints online, but they will sell. I will still buy that. Yeah. According to Ethan Gosh, of course, from Katako, he's just.
Starting point is 00:24:50 writing a reset era thread here. Mario Kart World is listed at 80 euros on the Spanish My Nintendo Store. Oh, interesting. So this is off of a screenshot that I guess is from Reset Era, but I'm seeing from Ethan. Mario Car World is listed for 7999-9-9-digital and then physical $89-9-9. Then Donkey Kong Bananz is listed as digital 69-99, physical, $79. Well, the red cartridges that cost money to paint those. Spanish my Nintendo store, so we're, you know, we're getting, this is all leaking out and breaking off and all this stuff's happening as we go.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I'm surprised, like, I'm surprised it's not the opposite, just because they know they're going to sell a fuck ton of more. Like, maybe that's the reason, like, they're just upping it just by $10 because they know they're going to make a, like, sell a fuck ton of copies of Mario Kart. But you'd think because of that, they would try to downplay it a little. I don't know. That's a... I think they're funneling people to the bundle. I think that's what they want people to do. Yeah, smart.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I registered for the bundle. Me too. Yeah, I think that was the only one I saw on the thing. You already registered? No, there's two. Yeah, there's two. It's that thing where it's like, Ben's going to be one.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Jen's going to want one. Yeah, exactly. I want the one where Nintendo goes, he wants to pay more. He gets the one. He gets the option. Put him at the front of the line. I'm willing.
Starting point is 00:26:05 We'll throw on an extra JoyCon sell for $900. Come on, let's go. Yeah, over on the Mario Kart World page on the Nintendo thing where they have a bunch of information. They have $79.99 as the suggested retail price, period. So that's not saying anything about. digital errors. So we will continue to monitor this as this happens.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But that aside, the game looked great. Excited for this direct on the 17th. 24 players. Yeah. That looks cool. I'm excited to see the evolution of the online. I never loved it. It was never as perfect as I wanted it to be when I team up with all my friends. But I'm excited. I think it feels like a new era of Nintendo. I think they're really going to elevate this one. It's going to be cool. I'm glad you mentioned the online because that's one area that Nintendo needs to upgrade across the board. of course. As much as I love Smash Brothers,
Starting point is 00:26:50 the online was embarrassing in that game and remains embarrassing. That game needs rollback net code in the worst way. And frankly, when I'm looking at Mario Kart, it was good. It was okay. But they really need to expand the features.
Starting point is 00:27:04 The lobby system. The lobby system's really bad. Yeah, I want everything elevated on this, Kat is right? Great call out. Smash gets a flower for me because they have a cool, like they have a nice little lobby
Starting point is 00:27:15 where you can spectate games. But I agree. when you actually start playing it, no, it needs a lot of help. Moving on then, this is where we revealed finally, what that dang C button is all about. We looked at the JoyCon too
Starting point is 00:27:29 and then moved up to the C button. Guess what it does? It's called game chat. It is a microphone through the handheld device. So if you're playing it, handheld, awesome. If it's on the other side of the room, they say it's great and they say you can run a blender
Starting point is 00:27:42 in the back and it won't be heard. You'll be fine. Fucking Andrew back there. Why are you making a smooth? You know what I mean? Cinco to Mayo. I'm trying to play Mario card. Knock it off.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Flashback to the Connect Days. This is going to be a wild one to hear that in person. Man, I hope it sounds good. What's funny to me is like, you know, I think one of the big questions leading into all of this is what's going to be the new gimmick that Nintendo has to show? And to me, it's not this voice chat. It's like 120 hertz. To me that's like a gimmick for them because of how odd that is.
Starting point is 00:28:19 When I see this voice chat thing, it's something like silly and weird enough to not be surprising in a way. I was surprised though by all of their sort of discord wanting everybody to see everybody's feeds. I was really kind of surprised by that because again, it feels like they maybe assume another pandemic's going to happen or something. I don't know, man. It just feels like really out of place and out of time. Yeah, I think it's them trying to catch up and knowing people do that and them wanting that from them to some degree. I think it was the most interesting for me. We didn't even get to it right.
Starting point is 00:28:53 They did view this camera as well, right, that you can plug into the top of it and use it. That I don't want. I don't need it for these Discord calls they're doing. But I did kind of like when it was being integrated into the game. Mario Party. Yeah, it's like, that's the thing we're like, okay, that's cute. Is it only compatible with Nintendo's camera? I assume.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh, of course. No, no, no, no, it's not. No, no, I'm looking right here. Let me read. Yeah, well, I know, but you never know with Nintendo, right? No, it says, but if they connect a compatible USBC cameras, such as the Nintendo Switch 2 cameras sold separately, they can also video chat, seeing their faces
Starting point is 00:29:24 that cheers, shout, or laugh while playing. Additional friends can join video audio. That might actually be nice for streaming, because if I'm playing Mario Kart or something, our faces are all over the little carts. That could be one, I suppose. A fun family feature as well. You think Grandma's calling in to see the family.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Grandma's playing on Nintendo Switch 2? you know that families all around the globe will get switches to see their grandchild. So they put that goddamn Animal Crossing out there. For sure. It makes me think of when the switch was first announced and they were showing stuff like, you can play with your friends on a little kickstand on a rooftop. And you're like, I'll never use that. I did use that my friends.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I did use that many times. And I mean, I'll probably be on Discord playing Switch with friends if I am. But I don't know. It could be something that I end up using. Just having it integrated is kind of nice. I only think of it as a way for us to make content with and really not any other, I don't see any sort of personal way that I would be using this. Because again, Mike, it's forever alone.
Starting point is 00:30:22 You know what I mean? Yeah, forever alone. We're attached to the PCs. I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You meet so many people outside of the games industry that have game nights with their friends where they play Mario Party. They play Mario Kart and like, this is going to be a way for them to connect, see each other as much as we might think, oh, that's odd. I think a lot of people out there,
Starting point is 00:30:42 they'll have a wine night with their girlfriends. They'll have fun. I dated a girl that did this. So I know for sure she will take advantage of that. I know friends and family members would love to see each other. So as odd as it sounds to us who are like hyper fixated on this video games world, like I think the outside world will go, oh, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Like we could do this together. It also could easily become just such a normal ass thing that we kind of take for granted right now in the way that we're like, why would I want a camera on my phone back in the day? You know, just become such a normal part. I would love for it to become like that because I think it is such a, I think it's such a neat and odd idea, but I'm more excited about the gameplay implementations
Starting point is 00:31:21 as opposed to like the actual voice chatting. I love the Mario Party stuff, and I hope that Nintendo can continue to get kind of weird and wacky with how they can have that camera be on your knees head or whatever the hell, you know. This is the, I'm sticking in here right now while we talk about the chat and everything else. This is the,
Starting point is 00:31:40 to the breakdown of the hardware and all that stuff. This is where you introduced, oh, interesting. The dock has no ports on it. The unit itself has two USBC ports, but the dock itself doesn't. So to charge your camera or charge your controller or plug in this camera, you're going to the top slot on the system, which I thought. I didn't like, I'm not Tim, obviously. I showed up to work today. He's a winner.
Starting point is 00:32:01 But it's that, I am a winner too. Or it Timis? It doesn't matter. It's that idea of like, I don't need everything to be the most aesthetically pleasing thing, but I thought it looked ugly as hell. the camera and then the USB coming out to it. I'm like, oh, I don't like that. I'm sure they, I mean, they want it to have it so when you have your switch out
Starting point is 00:32:18 of the dock that you can plug in the camera and everything. But it is surprising that they don't have more ports. Just put a port on that. Yeah. Because guess what? Shocking no one own. Hello, everyone rating from Bruce Green right now on Twitch. Thank you so much, Bruce for sending it over here. I think, yeah, the shocking no one, I'm sure, is that the next
Starting point is 00:32:34 whatever, the OLED switch two they put out is going to have ports on this goddamn dock. It'll be $550, but it'll be there. I'll have a ports. Yeah, the C button and the chat menu is not the gimmick or the elevation that I wanted to see, but it is the thing that they needed the most, right? We talked about the social
Starting point is 00:32:50 features on Nintendo Switch. Sharing a 20-digit long insane code was never fun, right? Having just a small profile photo and not much else was never fun in today's age. Using the phone app for voice chat. So like this is something low-key having a mic on the actual
Starting point is 00:33:06 switch is really a gods. They needed to elevate this and I'm sorry, I keep saying that, but they needed to improve upon their chat and social functions, and it looks like they did, right? I brought up the C meaning the cursor function. It's like, that would be lame if it was just the C button. It's just turn it into mouse mode, right? So I'm glad that we looked at our social features and said,
Starting point is 00:33:26 how do we improve upon this in 2025? Moving on in order of operations. Up next was game share. Something we talked about, Kat, that of course, we remember this from the DS back in the day. the idea here being that compatible Nintendo Switch or Nintendo Switch 2 games are going to be able to share with other... I'm sorry, that's not right. You can share games with other people from the Nintendo Switch 2.
Starting point is 00:33:49 However, you could share to a Switch 1 as well. Compatible games, there'll be free updates for these in the future. But the idea being that I have a multiplayer game on my Switch 2, I can beam it to all y'all's switches that don't own the game and we can play together that way. Very cool. A little Joseph Fares right there, right? Like seeing how much success it takes to had with, you know, again, a game that you could play with your friend
Starting point is 00:34:11 and your friend didn't have to buy it and that still sold 20 plus million copies. This is amazing and so shocking that it exists when you're looking at what their game prices are now going to be. I guess I'm just more surprised by like the pro-consumer thing there when it's really hard to look at any of these companies as pro-consumer nowadays, you know? It takes a little bit of the sting out of the price point. Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 00:34:36 but not a whole day. I mean, birthday parties, conventions, we've all been to fun social gatherings where there's a bunch of people with Nintendo switches and nothing is worse going, you got Mario Kart, you got Mario Kart, I don't have Mario Kart. Like, the idea to be able to beam that and do that,
Starting point is 00:34:52 I think is a big win, right? That's going to be a lot of fun. Very cool. I'm used to buying way too many copies of games for my friends, so the idea if we're all together and I can just say, here we go, we got it, that makes me smile. So out of everyone, all of the major council holders, Nintendo is still the play with your friends in the living room platform,
Starting point is 00:35:10 the social gaming platform. And I like that. I miss living room gaming. Yeah. And so that's a great feature. That's a great ad. How will this work? Is it a I share with you and then an install and we're kind of waiting?
Starting point is 00:35:24 Is this going to be a cloud stream type thing? How does this really work in reality? Because I'm excited to see that because I would hate to share. And then we have to go, ooh, the Wi-Fi connection. It's got to be just instant, right? Like, it says at the top, using GameShare, right? So you're hoping you have to stream. And you see a little bar.
Starting point is 00:35:41 They got a connection bar up there, too. So, yeah, it's got to be that. I think you download data, and then you can actually start playing it. I think, so they introduced the virtual game cards last week, and that also has a lending system that they put out, where you can lend a game for 14 days. And that's a download. Similar technology, I have to imagine. Yeah, you hope, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Have you ever played, it takes to you, or split fiction, as the added person. No. I did when me and Nick played it takes two back in the day and it's not the best experience, but it's still cool that it exists at all, right?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Like there is a tiny bit of latency-ish and it doesn't look super clean. I don't know if that's the same tech they're using or if you are actually downloading some sort of license to have it. They're in a more meaningful, physical way as opposed to just a cloud streaming type deal, but it's still really neat that this exists at all.
Starting point is 00:36:33 But for real, where's me versus Where's street pass? Street pass. Get it back. What are we talking about? Well, I just got a press release here. The welcome tour game that is an add-on, that's a $90 purchase. No, I'm kidding. But it's not free.
Starting point is 00:36:48 But it's not free. We'll talk about that in the minute. We're crazy. Let's all take a guess on how much that's going to be. Holy shit. I mean, again, it seems like somebody in the chat's popping off saying, though, $80 is confirmed for all digital games, which I don't know if that, yeah, that's crazy. Somebody else said to you, we got to. We got a super chat from Kieran Rice
Starting point is 00:37:04 or yeah, Kieran Rice. Barrett, show them the back of the dock again. There are two USB ports are shown. My apologies if I missed that. We're obviously fast and loose with this. I got to assume it's where the power cable goes into on the left side. Yeah, when they did the full back, like, they did a turn of the back and it was the normal HDMI power cord
Starting point is 00:37:21 thing, Ethernet. And that's when I was like, oh, there's nothing on the sides either. So I believed from what I saw in that thing, there wasn't ports on the dock itself. So yeah, we've got our normal AC adapter H-DMI
Starting point is 00:37:33 LAN, which is kind of the normal setup for that. Yeah. Over here we've got... We can't see it. No. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It's all. Oh, yeah. We have two USBAs. Okay. I take it back then. I apologize, everybody. That's why that makes sense
Starting point is 00:37:49 for the camera being plugged on the top because it's USBC only. Wait, I'm still mad again. Now I'm back to being mad. USBC is the future. What the fuck are we doing here? That's USBC and USBAN.
Starting point is 00:37:58 It's their own Nintendo proprietary. All right. Then a chat that don't have a full, it is all breaking fast. FI law 95 goes, Europe is fucked with Nintendo prices. 90 euros for games is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Nothing to do with tariffs. So, but I just see you all know, if we go down, we're taking you with us. That's the American motto. It's a spiral. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So we were rating the Nintendo Switch presentation earlier and saying, wow, look at all these games and everything. The price just became the dominant. Sure. That's why they don't put it in there. That's all people are going to be talking about for the next couple days.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And in that, I think that's a little rough for Nintendo. Here's the thing. It is, why I wear a bonanza is, yeah, $79.99. But there was a difference on the Is that the SwitchWil version?
Starting point is 00:38:45 Is it getting a SwitchWanted version? Only on Switch 2. Wow. But remember, when I looked at the Spanish store, I forget which country that was, I apologize. There was a difference there where it was physical
Starting point is 00:38:55 and digital had different prices. So, again. DK is 70, Mario Kart World is 80. I think there's a lot of confusion happening. understandably so. Which is not something you necessarily want when people are deciding whether or not to make a purchase with your console.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah, but here's the thing is I think so many people are just going to be down to do it. And I think also we're talking about we're 44 minutes removed from rap time, whereas like in another hour, this should be answered and settled. And it's not Jeff Grubbs tweeting and Jeff Keeley's doing this and we're trying to figure that out. And I'm getting a super chat from somebody. Like, I feel like the price is an issue obviously, but I also think people were stealing themselves for it. And it's also that, all right, cool, games are $80. Are you not going to buy it? Was that really, is that really what's going to break you from this?
Starting point is 00:39:37 I doubt it for a lot of people. And I bet Nintendo does too. And I bet Nintendo looks at the people we don't get are going to be made up for by the money we're making off of the $20 extra dollars from where we were before. We'll see. While we talk about dollars and cents, everybody, I saw Joey in the chat say, with these prices, I'm going to stop super chatting. Well, that's fine. But I hope, of course, as you save up for your Nintendo Switch, you think about picking up a kind of funny membership. Of course, $10 supports a small business, an 11-person small business, all about live talk shows.
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Starting point is 00:44:08 This has all been great. Matt Sanders writes in and says, it'll suck when these games are still $80 five years from now. Of course, talking about how Nintendo never does that. Barrett Courtney bringing in my water because I forgot it when I was running around, yelling stuff and Joey, moving things around out there. Black Friday sale will be 76.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Yeah, right? Yeah, exactly. got on that one. While we were doing that, of course, going through, I have more breaking news for you. Barrett sent me this one from Wario-64. The Legend of Zelda, Breath of the Wild, and the Legend of Zelda, Tears of the Kingdom. Switch to upgrades are free for Nintendo Switch Switch Online and Expansion Pack members.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Tim and Bless called that, as they say. So that's an interesting upgrade because there were other ones we will have to pay for. So as we jump around and figure that out again, Kat, back to your thing of like we rated the presentation and now on the other side of it it's like all confusion yeah I had uh
Starting point is 00:45:00 to me it was the game pass sort of argument where on that game when we were talking about the games or on games cast I was saying I could totally see them doing if you are a member you get that shit for free
Starting point is 00:45:12 but if not pay an amount of money that we won't let you know yet but we gotta assume 10 to 20 now like the fact that they didn't show us 10 makes me think that it's not going to be 10, it's going to be probably $20 to get the visual upgrade.
Starting point is 00:45:28 You think so too, yeah, I would assume as well, right? I would air on the side of 20. Yeah. 20 to 30, yeah. Yeah. Let's jump back into where we left off going through this presentation, moment by second, second by second. We got the switch to itself. This was the breakdown where they jumped in and started
Starting point is 00:45:43 rattling off stuff that made Andy Cortez go, wow, wow, wow, wow, we hot dog. We got a 7.9 inch screen, 1080 screen. It's up to 120 frames per. second LCD HDR. Joycons, of course, are magnetic. We got bigger SL and SR buttons, larger control sticks, mouse controls, 3D audio, a new stand to USBC ports on the system itself, top and bottom, 256 gigabytes internal, a new dock, 4K support, 60 frames per second max and 4K, and of course, plays compatible Switch games. Andy, you are my tech powerhouse. This did it for you? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:20 this is so surprising and shocking to me. I think if anything, people are going to see what it's like to experience a higher frame rates because not everybody has the LG OLED that gives you the higher refresh rate and plugging in PS4s that give you 120 frames on older games or, sorry, PS5s that give you higher frame rates. This is, it was pretty shocking to me. I know that it was rumored, but I just in no way. way like we mentioned earlier, Greg, where I was like, if you told me that there was going to be a
Starting point is 00:46:56 Miyazaki led from software game and said, would have said you're fucking crazy. The fact that we saw 120 frames per second on a screen today for a Nintendo conference is absolutely mind-blowing because most people don't give a shit about things like that. People want 60 minimum. I'm really shocked by that sort of tech even being an option. And that's also why, you know, the, the, the, the, the hardware is above $400. You know, it costs extra money to get displays that work that well, 1080p. And yes, the fact that we saw a lot of like 4K-60 minimum,
Starting point is 00:47:31 and then 180-120 is just so exciting to me. I can't believe we're here with Nintendo. Yeah. Look at those bezels, though. They're pretty big. I hate bezels. Yeah. Big-ass bezels, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:43 OLED bezz are so small. That's why I don't want to get the upgrade here in two years when they want to sell it to me again. It'll be all about it. 550. I think 120 FPS is a huge, huge deal. I was really, really mourning the loss of the OLED screen because it
Starting point is 00:47:57 looks so good on the original switch. Especially because Nintendo games are so bright and colorful and they really utilize like that full gamut of color options, but I still think it's going to be a very nice looking display because
Starting point is 00:48:13 LCD technology has come a long way in the last 10 years. Bigger screen, HDR, 120 FPS high refresh rate. That's great. Unbelievable. Yeah, that's really, really good. Mike, you got anything to complain about?
Starting point is 00:48:27 A complaint. Yeah, you brought up, I'd like to know a little bit more about the internet plug-in in the back. You brought it up saying that there was one, and then the chat said there wasn't one. No, they were talking about USBCs. Okay. There's an ethernet in there, right?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Nobody argued there. Yeah, there's an ethernet. There's one that's just one that I didn't like on my original switch dock. You know, we had to buy the dongle for it. I am. You know, I just didn't love downloading off the Wi-Fi. I liked the faster speeds that we have. So I am happy that if there is a plugin,
Starting point is 00:48:58 which it sounds like there is, and I'm very excited. I forgot that the plugin was updated for, I think, the OLED edition of the switch. Yeah, correct. Yeah, then you or Doc had that Ethernet, yeah. For real, this is a big improvement on the existing technology. And I think one of the biggest, biggest ones is they may have finally solved the
Starting point is 00:49:16 JoyCon Drift issue after these many years. Whoa. Because of the magnet. That's like one of the speculation as to why they have the magnetic attachments with the actual joycons is that to help address some of the drift. They better figure that. They better have that figure out. From there, unless anybody has somebody else to say about the hardware itself.
Starting point is 00:49:38 No, just, you know, again, kind of just blown away that. Please put alarm all away. Please put alarm all away. Big buttons also on the, you know. Yeah. They really, they talked about the larger joycon, you know. joysticks. I've never, I rarely play with the actual joycons unless maybe I'm on a flight, but even then I, when I was playing with my switch on flights a lot, I was still kickstanding it
Starting point is 00:50:00 with a pro controller because I just prefer that experience even more. But yeah, the larger buttons is always nice because, you know, they're a little bit time. I'm not a Tim guy who like needs a perfect size buttons. But it's still, you know, it's still really exciting that this hardware is even an option. Last thing, do you think with all these hardware upgrades, the biggest software performance boost in the Nintendo E-shop will perform any better? Do you think that'll be better? No. By and large, it sounds like the UI is going to be relatively the same, but it's so full of crap,
Starting point is 00:50:33 unfortunately. Yeah, two themes. I think one of the big questions a lot of people were having was DLSS. They didn't talk about it during the actual stream. There was a lot of talk in the press release about a vastly improved CPU in GPU. and pre-release rumors had that NVIDIA was making a graphics card and you would assume
Starting point is 00:50:54 DLSS, like AI upscaling and things like that, would be part of the package. And that would be a significant step toward making the switch to competitive and in modern context for maybe years to come, but they didn't really talk about it much. So there's some questions around. I think it's too big of an audience for it, right?
Starting point is 00:51:12 I think that's going too nerdy with it. And I'm with you. I still think it is. is an option. The fact that we saw 4K60 as a thing at all shows me that because they are even touting those numbers, there has to be some sort of upscaling involved because a lot of current consoles can't do 4K60 depending on the game, right? I do think that like maybe it was a part of the presentation at one point and then they're like, no, no, no, 120 frames per second is the most nerdy we can get here. We cannot talk about AI upscaling. Don't forget, right,
Starting point is 00:51:47 They've already announced these tomorrow and the day after Giant Treehouse streams Right I think that would be you can go into it Something to watch for I think 100% yeah Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:51:55 Kyle is saying in a super chat Camera 60 pro controller is 80 And the GameCube controller is $65 These are dollars 65 All right in line Yeah That's a weird number
Starting point is 00:52:06 Get that game cube controller For when Smash melee shows up like that So gotta be ready Yeah that's gonna be cool I was kind of Talking about Smash real quick I think because we didn't see it as a switch two upgrade in that, you know, small, like, list of games.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Didn't show every game, obviously, but I think because it wasn't showcased there, that there has to just be another big game being made. I think so. I, okay, for real, though, I like, and I keep saying for real, so I'll promise I'll cut that out. You're usually such a off-the-wall. For-real, for-reel. I would just be happy with a Nintendo Switch-2 edition of, Smash Brothers Ultimate with much better online, 120 FPS, and in a third expansion pass.
Starting point is 00:52:54 If you gave me all of those things, that's a sequel to me, because Smash Brothers Ultimate, aside from the online, is basically perfect. It is an incredible, incredible game that I still play all the time. It has a roster that can never be matched again by any new Smash Brothers game. If you just give me Smash Bros. Ultimate and a Nintendo Switch. and better online and a new expansion pass, I'm in heaven. And maybe that's why,
Starting point is 00:53:21 maybe another reason why we didn't see it as one of these Switch 2 upgrade options is because I think maybe they're just kind of looking at, well, Mario Kart's going to be our multiplayer thing for now. We can do a Smash Bros thing in the future, similar to where we saw Mario Party Jambery having not only Switch 2 enhancements visually, but camera stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:43 And, you know, using all these new little mouse gimmicks or whatever, I could totally see the Smash Bros Ultimate version being a Switch 2 option with expanded things and also it just runs better and looks better. 120 frames per second would be amazing for that. Give Sakurai a break. He wants to make Kirby right now. And he's earned it. Let the man rest. He's done enough for you.
Starting point is 00:54:07 But Sakurai, we have another racing game we're doing called Mario Cart. No, no, I don't care. No, this is Kirby Air Riders. Thank you. Get out of my way. we're going to keep going. Before we get there, of course, we have to move on to possibly the greatest game they showed today. Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome to her. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Here's the thing about it. They jump in. It's showing all. Oh, there's so many new features to learn about the Nintendo Switch 2. So we made Nintendo Switch 2 welcome to her. It's an adorable little design. The little desks, like I say, that look exactly like their checking desks at E3. Cool.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I'm all about that. They're moving around. They're doing the thing. I'm like, great, great, great. It's when they get to the end. and they're like, Nintendo Switch 2, Welcome 2 will be available to buy from the Nintendo e-shop from Nintendo Switch 2 launch day. Like, wait, this isn't a pack-in, this isn't a freebie,
Starting point is 00:54:55 this isn't an Astrobot, what are we doing? Greg, you cannot in your little demonstration say, and you can check out a bunch of other tech demos in this paid fucking kid. No, man, like even the Steam Deck Portal experience, that was free, right? That was a free download. So wild.
Starting point is 00:55:13 What a weird miss for them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like I'd love to see the stats on how many people are actually going to buy it. And not in my Nintendo Switch online subscription either. Like, I've already given you monthly payments. Like, let's just put this in here, y'all. Yeah, outrageous, crazy. But there it is. And I miss the MES. I'm sorry. Of course. No, no, no. I want you to keep beating this drum. We need street pass. We need Mies. Come on. What are we doing? Bring it back. Get it all over there. This reminds me of apparently back in the mid-90s, Microsoft tried to make a graphical version of their Windows desktop that was like in a
Starting point is 00:55:44 adventure game. It reminds me a little bit of this in the way they were tutorializing everything. That tracks, yeah. Why are we paying for a tutorial for the Switch 2? Unless they have a lot of interesting mini games, but these look like, look at these things. I mean, come on. He said the word tech demo.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah, he said the word tech demo. That's what kind of what we are seeing with golf and with shaking a Maraca or whatever, but it's just so bizarre that this is something that they're expecting people to buy. See, I want Nintendo World to come back. So I can play Animal Crossing Sweet Days again.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Which is the best mini game ever. Pre-pass is so cool, though. So cool. We have more breaking news that I just wanted to verify. Jesus fucking Christ. Left and right JoyCon 2 controllers. How much are you going to pay for those, Andy?
Starting point is 00:56:32 Oh, no, man. You're setting me up for each separately? Together. A new set of JoyCon. They're 100. $195. $195. Cat?
Starting point is 00:56:41 I'm going to say $120. $90. 90. Oh, okay. Okay. So, wait. From 80 to 90, right? How much is the pro? The pro controller is 80. 80. 80. What? Hell yeah. What? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:57 You got the mouse. You got the mouse tech in there. And this is the classic They're expensive. No, I was going to say. It's the classic thing. I'm like, yeah, they need to put a new gimmick in there. Then that's going to justify the price or whatever. Y'all buckle up. Everything's going to be more expensive now. That's
Starting point is 00:57:13 the way it is. Everything. Everything. Your eggs? $150. But the job market's good though now. Oh, thank God. Right?
Starting point is 00:57:23 Aren't people more employed now? The walls almost done too. They're building in the price increases right from the start and just setting expectations so that they don't have to raise prices later because they're going to have to. And the investment is worth it because when AI takes over our jobs, we're going to have so much free time. Exactly. To play all of the switch stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Game consoles have literally been going up in price rather than. down in price. Like, didn't the Xbox go up in price? True. I've always been kind of blown away by the price of JoyConns
Starting point is 00:57:51 anyway though. Yeah. Like, whenever I would, my nieces and nephew have a switch now and it's like, oh, I want to get them JoyConst for 80.
Starting point is 00:58:00 What the fuck? Like, I was always blown away by that price anyway. So that, it doesn't shock me that it went up $10 now or whatever. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:09 it's a better piece of hardware now. He's going to put Pear Schneider in the poor house So this man who buys every joycon set. Gotta have everything. Yeah, yeah. Big deal. But again, like, and I'm not at all carrying water.
Starting point is 00:58:18 But for me personally, like, this is the chilling effect of like, okay, cool, I don't need that new pro controller. My old pro controller's work, I'm never going to put an audio thing in and I'm not a back paddle guy. So it's like... Not yet. No, not ever. It's just... I have so many back paddles I don't use. I give away the PlayStation DualSense edges.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I don't even want... Anyways, moving on from there, we got into the big news, game cards. Their same shape as the game cards from Switch 1. But this time they're red, and they're faster. A lot of speculation, actually, about whether they would be a different shape. Yeah. And whether there would be compatibility with the Switch, the original Switch game cards. So, in a way, that's actually kind of a relief.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah. And more, I want to know how they taste. This is the big news. Remember that? Put red on my tongue. They're bitter. I'll find out. The extra $10 is to make them taste good.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Of course, they will be using not microSD cards, but MicroSD Express cards. for storage this time around. I said yesterday that I was going to reformat my SD card and just use it here. Somebody, blue scott me, was like, Greg, I got bad news. They're not going to use that. It got me. It got me. But I really don't care.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And of course, you would have to transfer your data from Switch 1 to the Switch 2. We then revealed the Pro Controller, as we've already talked a little bit about. It has the C button. It has the back paddles, and it has an audio jack. Andy, what did you think here, as you looked at this Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller for $80? I'm super stoked that there's back buttons. I think that was the first thing I was hoping to see as soon as they spun that baby around.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I was very excited about it. I've always enjoyed their OG Pro Controller. It's always felt really great. It's always been one of the more sturdy pieces of hardware I've ever used where it just there's no bend to it. You never hear like plastic creaking in that son of a gun. It's just like a real holds a charge for it feels like a weapon. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:03 The battery charges compared to whenever I would use back of the day my Dual Shock 4 being like, oh my God, I wish everything operated like the switch controller. Very excited about this. I'm, I guess the button remapping would be in the settings, kind of like how you can remap any other button you want whenever you're like, oh man, A is B and B is A, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, what will be the app accessory that does that where I have to drop out of the game and go to this and change that. It'll be interesting to see what they have for that. I'm very excited about it, though. I'm glad that it's, like, there's just been so many support. surprises during this presentation that I would have never expected Nintendo to go. We need 120 frames per second.
Starting point is 01:00:45 We need HDR and back paddles on our pro controller, especially because the last one didn't have that. Again, it was a long time ago. I wasn't even using back paddles back then, but it's still surprising to me that that's something they looked at and said we want that on our next controller. Yeah. We spoke about it yesterday of like,
Starting point is 01:01:01 how do you improve upon that? It's already great. And just the audio jack would have been enough, right? The C button and the audio jack would be like, all right, cool. They didn't make many crazy changes to it, but the back paddles for me, fantastic. I can't wait to get one. One of the things they toss in here from a superchat, remember you can be part of the show, YouTube.com slash kind of funny games.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Detachnation, Superchats and says, if the new pro controller has a central pivot on the D-Pad, then I will buy four more LMAO. I don't know anything about central pivots on D-Pen. That's a tin thing. It was just a basic T-cross. Right, exactly. There was no, like, there's not like your Xbox. You made platformers, like, not that great of an experience on it.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yeah. It's one of those reasons Tim's like the Joker about controllers. Yeah. I just constantly try to find a new one. It would be great though because I do like to play 2D platformers on NSO and whatnot. And I don't think the pro controller is a great experience for that. Yeah, that is true. Yeah, now that I think of it whenever I would, when I was in my Mario Maker 2 bag and I was just constantly playing that,
Starting point is 01:01:57 I was using my 8-bit dough sort of Super Nintendo comparison controller or whatever. moving on from there the next big news was of course the June 5th launch date since then we have found out pre-orders open in one week from today right that's what I said earlier the ninth yeah correct got to register your interest I did exactly register yeah we've all registered our interest showed that we've played games trying to I again I appreciate them trying to figure out ways around scalpers that's an interesting idea for it and like okay what are we going to do how are you going to get it I just left at the 50 hour thing because I don't know if I have 50 hours in I guess if it allowed me to pick one it you haven't played
Starting point is 01:02:34 50 hours of video games on the Nintendo Switch? I just don't know. Well, I'm on Tim's account now, and I don't know, like, I'm on his family things. They're watching you, they know. Okay. They know what you're up to. They know what's happening over there. Another thing that had been pointed out earlier, I have a super chat about it. Jackie S. M. says a Japanese language only switched to is 49-980 yen, which is around
Starting point is 01:02:55 $333.3. U.S. There's a go on. I heard somebody else talking about the Japanese system saying that was about scalpers as well as they try to figure out how to get this system to fans and not just into the hands of people there's a multi-language switch available in japan as well that is marked up and it's higher i think people are theorizing that that maybe this is another way to get around tariffs specifically in the system itself is in japanese but you can still i assume it's still region free you can still play switch two games on it so just learn your hiragana katakana there you
Starting point is 01:03:33 Okay, and then with the settings and then just play games regularly. See, I got lost in the weeds. Thank you, Bear, for that. Yeah, Jackie was pointing out the Japanese system is $330 U.S. conversion. All language system, yes, 467 all way. So there you go. So that's how they are trying to figure out scalpers, but then also tariffs. Very interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Only Japanese accounts can be used on it, Chatt is saying. There you go, there you go. So it isn't region free. That's a huge change. Yeah. That's a big change from the original switch. because the original switch was fully region-free to the point that you could go on the Japanese e-shop
Starting point is 01:04:06 and download games onto it. So having a version that is strictly region-locked to Japan, wow, we're back in the, what, the Xbox 360 era again? Don't love that. No, that sucks. Moving on, though, we then wanted to talk about Nintendo Switch to Edition games. Of course, they can have upgraded versions, upgraded visuals, etc., etc.
Starting point is 01:04:30 We then listed off a bunch of them. You had Nintendo Switch 2 Mario Party Jambery plus Jambery TV. They announced Zelda Breath of the Wild and the Antires of the Kingdom. They announced Kirby and the Forgotten Kingdom Nintendo Switch 2 edition plus Star Cross World. Metroid Prime 4 Beyond Nintendo Switch 2 edition, Pokemon Zah, Nintendo Switch 2 edition. What's somewhat convoluted again on the other side of this presentation was they went out of their way to point out that you can purchase the upgrade. for Jamboree and that
Starting point is 01:05:03 I purchased an upgrade pack for a lot of them and then it was okay great that's fine and then we came out of it and it was well the Zelda's going to be included
Starting point is 01:05:11 if you have Nintendo Switch online account so again a little bit confusing as we get into it but kind of what we expected now we wonder how much it'll all cost
Starting point is 01:05:20 yeah I guess we can only speculate on that right now as I'm trying to dig around yeah I believe so the thing that I'm happy to see and was kind of
Starting point is 01:05:29 surprised about is It's more than just an upgraded graphically, or a remaster. It includes a lot of new features, new games, for example, in Mario Party Jamboree. And I, so I think that could have been a full-priced standalone release, which it basically is. So having an upgrade path is really nice, I think, and it makes me excited for Nintendo Switch to online editions for a lot of these different games. So I was kind of hoping that Scarvye would be shut.
Starting point is 01:06:00 in this one because Scarlet and Violet Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, not good. Ran garbage. Not good on the Switch. Real gross looking. So I think another question that I have is will, still, will switch games run better just through backwards compatibility?
Starting point is 01:06:16 Because I'm okay with not getting a Switch 2 edition if say Scarlet Scarlet and Violet can do a locked 30 FPS on the switch two through backward compatibility. I have a feeling that they will do whatever they were intended to do,
Starting point is 01:06:34 but then obviously hardware would prevent, you know, issue, you know, make links awakening run like dockshow whenever there's water on screen or whatever. I have a feeling that whatever the Switch 2 hardware does to these older Switch 1 games that they will run as they were intended, but you're not going to get just like this, obviously, 60 frame per second version. And I think that they're kind of setting the precedent as well with saying,
Starting point is 01:06:59 hey, if there's any games that we want to make visually look better and run up to 60 frames and get crazy higher resolutions, that those might be in the, those are from now on likely going to be in this expansion pack or be in the online package. And then games like Mario Party or anything that we're adding camera functionality or any sort of new mini games, that that'll likely be the add-on type deal, you know. The chat says that. that Gen 9, Pokemon, Skarlane Violet will be getting
Starting point is 01:07:33 updates for the Switch 2, like maybe free updates. So, and I wouldn't be shocked if a bunch of games are kind of like that. It was like, well, we're, you're getting better FPS and that sort of thing. And yeah, we're getting additional features if you get a Switch to Edition
Starting point is 01:07:48 and then maybe 120 FPS support and whatnot, which, by the way, awesome. I love that. But I was like, oh, gosh, to me, the problems run so much cheaper than just, like, bad frame rate on that game. Oh, yeah. just like mountains in geometry
Starting point is 01:08:00 just looking like ass the whole time. No, that's a really ugly game from an art direction standpoint. And I loved it anyway. You know, it's my ugly child. People love to drag the Switch's hardware performance. There are really good looking games on the Switch.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Scarlet and Violet looks horrible. We've seen what devs can do when they have all the time in the world. Look at Tears of the Kingdom versus Pokemon Scarlet and Violet. They're not in the same universe. I'm seeing people. say that Nintendo has...
Starting point is 01:08:29 There it is. Thank you very much. I've been looking at Greg the whole time while talking and I see just the gif of him that gets posted everywhere with the math. Yeah, he's busy. Well, it's like... I love this stuff because it always feels like
Starting point is 01:08:42 election night at CNN. Where it's like there's all this stuff breaking and you're trying to find out what's going on. So when I see somebody say something, there's just no centralized hub anymore, right? Greg Kornacki. So Melissa with the Y has given me this link that... This isn't against her.
Starting point is 01:08:56 That's the Nintendo Switch thing, but it's so much... stuff it's the entire just page of it so now I'm trying to figure out where they're talking about upgrades but of course it's one of those damn web pages that it goes as I go they did that Xbox when they did the big backwards compatibility support just an Excel spreadsheet
Starting point is 01:09:12 of here's the game this is what happens and just give it to us like that okay okay in addition well that's that is that what we're talking about Kirby gets a little more gameplay that was exciting I like that even though I don't know how much it's going to cost yeah I mean for me the most
Starting point is 01:09:28 exciting thing is somebody who did not finish Tears of the Kingdom. Tears of the Kingdom getting all these benefits and HDR and stuff. I know, I know. Come the fuck on. Guys, I know. I said I know. God damn. No, he pissed us all off the cat. I don't know if that's true. The year of Tears of the Kingdom, when we're
Starting point is 01:09:44 reviewing it, Greg is like, look, we got to give an award to the game that isn't Tears of the Kingdom because we know that's going to win game of the year. And then Greg, you know, he fucked off for a while, then he came back and he was like, eh, you know. He didn't finish it. He fucked off for a while. I hate him.
Starting point is 01:09:58 about it. Here's the free updates for this. This is Barry showing me. Free updates to improve playability on Nintendo Switch 2 will be released for select Nintendo Switch games. By connecting your Nintendo Switch to the internet, you'll get them. Links Awakening. Oh, that's awesome. So Arms, Captain Toad, Odyssey, Super Mario 3D
Starting point is 01:10:14 World, Clubhouse Games, thank goodness. Legend of Zelda, Links Awakening, Echoes of Wisdom, Game Builder Garage, new Supermarbler's You, Pokemon, Scarlet, Pokemon, Violet, Big Brain Academy, Brain vs. Brain. Where the fuck is Animal Crossing? Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah. The load times on that game. What the fuck? Where's Animal Crossing? The low times on that game are not good. They're not good. They're really long. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:36 God damn it. That's upsetting. Switch to online edition with new content, please. Yes, yes, yes. Jumping over here, there's important information about compatibility of Nintendo Switch games with Nintendo Switch 2. Status of compatibility test for Nintendo Switch games on the Nintendo Switch 2.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Updated April 1, 2025. It looks great. There's Nintendo games. It's 122 partner games. over 15,000 games. There's not like a list here that I'm seeing. So you're fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Whatever. Moving back to it. Yeah, we went through this. So, jamboree, cool. You get to put your face in there. Zelda, better framework in HDR. Plus, Zelda notes, which I'm a big dork for a second screen experience like that.
Starting point is 01:11:18 It's in the Switch app. You can turn on guidance for GPS. You can share your creations you've made via QR codes to download stuff. I'm like, okay. I don't hate that. There's a corrock under this rock. Yeah. terrible AI voice.
Starting point is 01:11:29 So weird. It's absolutely awful. Global Played data. You got a daily bonus on there. Again, I waited. I knew this was coming. Various locations. Like shrines and Korox
Starting point is 01:11:36 you haven't found yet. Guidance activating. Yeah, no. I mean, it just sounded like Google. I don't know. It doesn't sound like Zelda. So like,
Starting point is 01:11:43 get it more in theme with Zelda. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I don't know where to go. I downloaded Waze recently. Man, you can get all sorts of people talking to you. Why do you have a voice? It's not the sound effect.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Good point. Yeah, yeah. Kirby in the Forgten Kingdom, like we said, Metroid Prime. for Beyond Nintendo Switch 2 Edition. It'll have mouse controls, Andy. Yes. I never thought it's either day.
Starting point is 01:12:03 You guys were talking about that, wanting that, asking for that. I was like, that'll never happen. That'll never happen. Also, it opens a door for Metroid Prime 3 to come to Switch 2 because that was a motion control game. So, I mean, I'm not saying that it would be super easy to do, but you could do a lot of that with the mouse. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Super exciting. 4K60 or 1080, 120 frames, HDR. That's fucking crazy, man. Which one are you going to play? Oh, 120 frames, yeah, yeah. I don't have you heard this, frames win games? Frames do win games, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:34 100%. Here's what's going to happen, man. Like, like, everybody's going to, everybody's been shitting on me. Like, Andy, you can't even fucking tell the difference. You're going to see the light once you get your hands on what it feels like to experience at 120 hertz. Anything over 60 frames per second or 60 hertz. Tim already told me like, dude, I would always shit on you, Andy. And, like, you know, when we were hanging out, we went to the Final Fantasy concert, Greg.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Tim was like, man, I've been playing, I forget what game he was telling me in 120, he was like, it's really hard to go back. Dude, I'm telling you, man. It's just impossible to showcase on a stream. Yeah, like all of that stuff. Like, you have to see the screen in real life on your own. Response time is what you'll notice the most. I'm not saying that you're going to be like, I need every, to see every frame, but because there are extra frames, that means that the game will respond that much quicker to you hitting the button. And you're going to feel that when you go back to 60.
Starting point is 01:13:25 And you even get it a 120 frames per second on a handheld mode for a 720p though. Insane. That said, 720 is basically a standard definition in this day and H. Yeah. Even on that screen. But the screen is 1080 because we will get a 1080-60 FPS. I think I'm okay with 1080-60. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It's still, I'm still mind-blown. These are even specification options for a game. I'm really glad that it's not like 1080-30 and then 72060. 60 FPS, just having 60 FPS is the baseline for me right now. It's so awesome. Get it up there. Yeah. Shout out to Wario 64 because what you want with that Excel spreadsheet does in fact exist.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Nice. Nintendo Switch 2 compatibility list issues. And it is two different PDFs. Yeah, PDFs. Nintendo Switch games that start up on Nintendo Switch 2 but include some in-game compatibility issues. Games with startup issues on Nintendo Switch 2. And they have a list of like the thing. it's like handling it's being investigated, being investigated.
Starting point is 01:14:27 So if you were looking forward to playing Steve and Universe save the light, it's got an issue, L. This makes a lot more sense for the fact that people, I don't know how credible any of this even was. I think it was fairly credible that X had the 60 frame per second mode that was hidden.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that makes a lot more sense now, obviously, you know? There's a lot of speculation when people found that. Yeah. Continuing on, our walk, of course, Pokemon Zah popped up. It'll have better resolution and better frame rate. And then, yeah, they talked about there being physical and digital
Starting point is 01:15:00 versions of these enhanced versions, plus you can buy the upgrade pack. That makes me so happy because I did not expect Zah to have any of these upgrades. When we saw this direct, we all just kind of came to the conclusion, and that's just based on how Nintendo has generally operated that this will be
Starting point is 01:15:18 obviously the last sort of bastion of Switch 1 visuals and performance for Pokemon. And the next big mainline Pokemon game will finally have the Switch 2 upgrades and better frame rate and better resolution and I'm just so kind of I'm super
Starting point is 01:15:34 stoked that that's going to happen already with this upcoming one. For sure like somebody who's excited for Zod to jump in and have it be the best version on Switch 2 like okay cool, red. Super exciting. From there we got our next new Nintendo game drum roll please Mike it's drag
Starting point is 01:15:50 and drive. Now you might look at it online and say that's drag X drive so clearly has drag cross drive, but Nintendo goes out of their way to put their press release parentheses, it's pronounced Dragon Drive. At which point I would say, why didn't you put and in it?
Starting point is 01:16:02 Why didn't you put an ampersand in there? What the cool logo? Why didn't you put a plus in there? I digress. But does that sound similar to Dragon Drive, which honestly I would be more into it. Dragon Drive would be quiet. If you're an audio listener,
Starting point is 01:16:13 use a joycon to mouse controls and enjoy a new experience strapping into Dragon Drive, a new online 3V3 game experience. Dragon Drive challenges players to use mouse controls with both the JoyCon 2 at the same time to intuitively steer, speed up, perform tricks, and make plays such as dunks.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Get ready to gear up when Dragon Drive launches on the Nintendo Switch 2 this summer. This is going to be similar to the time that everybody got to play like Skyward Sword, and they're like, I don't want to use the fucking waggle. Like this game looks so cool. And then the whole time I would remember, oh, you're controlling it with the weird kind of JoyCon movements. I don't want that. Like, this game looks like it's fun, but I don't know if I want that.
Starting point is 01:16:53 style of controlling. This looks kind of awkward. This is another one that I look at. It's hoops. No offense to anybody. I look at it. I'm like, oh, this is clearly a packing. This is a free. Here's how you want to use the the mousy controls. Oh, no, this is a, this is going to be a game. It's going to be a pay for it.
Starting point is 01:17:07 This is the new arms group. Yeah. Mike, is this doing anything for you as a sport? I mean, I have to be real with you. Greg said it the best. Like, you're going to find me 12 o'clock at 10. Thursday at like 10.30 at night. And I'm going to be screaming at this game. So yeah, this does a lot for me, Greg. I love to
Starting point is 01:17:23 gimmicky stuff from arms and beyond. I think this is something you look at and it's like, what is that fun gimmick that we're going to do? Here it is. Yeah, you better watch out. I'm probably going to get addicted to this. It's just going to be frustrating with like space to move. You know what I mean? Like you're going to
Starting point is 01:17:39 sit there on your couch and a little table. Yeah, it's just kind of I guess like a mouse is the same thing. Roger made a joke that they were going to sell a Nintendo lap table and I'm still waiting for it because they probably are for all this stuff. Barrett's roll us into the next section. It is of course the partners. This is where Nintendo said, you know what, it's not just all on us.
Starting point is 01:17:54 We have a bunch of different partners. And they started with Eldon Ring, Tarnished Edition, Andy. Yeah, this was one that we all kind of assumed or predicted, like, man, it would be awesome if they showed up the Lerring to show. Like, we are taking this third party shit serious now. Like, there's been so many large publishers skipping out on the first switch. We want to show them, hey, you don't got to spend a whole lot of money to downgrade the shit out of your game. Like Mortal Kombat One looks. on Switch 1, all of your games are going to be possible on this piece of hardware.
Starting point is 01:18:28 And what an incredible way to show off how serious you're taking it than with one of the greatest games ever created. Like this entire section, it really hit me of like, man, the story of like Nintendo in the Switch era where, you know, it wasn't, I don't know if it was Nintendo not taking third party seriously. I think a lot of third parties pre-Switch 1 and going into the launch of the Switch 1 were very like, we're not going. gonna fucking make gains. Yeah, like all these publishers doubting and then to see them all showing up for this, it was like, damn, look at the, look at how much Nintendo has really turned things around.
Starting point is 01:19:03 100%. Yeah, it's been coming all the way back. And third party's always been really rough for Nintendo because going back to the GameCube, they haven't been really on par with the other consoles. So third party was like, well, are we going to downgrade our games? Exactly. Go get more work for less return.
Starting point is 01:19:20 The story of Nintendo is Mass Effect 3 coming on in the Wii you for some reason rather than the trilogy. That's the kind of thing. And EA, EA in particular, really skipped out on the Nintendo Switch. We were talking about how there was no Madden on the Switch, no NHL. I would love NHL on the Switch, too. Every sports game should be on the Switch, is right. 100%.
Starting point is 01:19:41 And there's still a lot of questions like, will EA Sports FC be the downgraded version? Of course. You and I will have that conversation when we get there for sure. There's going to be something like that is right. But it was a cool Avengers moment to see. everybody kind of rally behind this big announcement. I mean, it is the biggest stage, right? You talked about it, Andy, of like, man, we only get so many Nintendo Switch console
Starting point is 01:20:02 reveals, right? And to see everybody gather here show off their biggest and baddest. I mean, Eldon Ring to start is such a big win, right? We're going to roll into Hades. This is something you and I talked about, Greg, is like, why I bought the Steam deck was because I play a lot of third-party games and I want that kind of be my everything console. And the Switch very much felt like I'm either. they're buying Nintendo's first part of titles because I know they're run well.
Starting point is 01:20:26 But when I jump on to a Monster Hunter rise or anything else, it just doesn't run well. And it's not a good system for me to be justifying a lot of these purchases. So I hope that we will get a better version of a lot of these than I got in the Switch one. Maybe this year, but we'll see. Yeah. I think no Monster Hunter, by the way. Yeah. No Monster.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Not shocking. That I expected. I wonder if this will end up being secretly the best version of Eldon Ring. because there are a lot of kind of weird problems with the PC version, some hitches and whatnot on the Steam Deck version. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:21:01 This is my recollection of it. No, Eldering has never run great. Eldon, yeah, from software is notorious for lacking in the tech department where they still don't have things like DLSS and you always have to go with mods to implement all sorts of more, the more recent like rendering tech
Starting point is 01:21:19 to make things run a little bit better. I was kind of shocked that we didn't see any Xbox stuff. Yeah, game past, I know some people were surprised they didn't see something there pop up. I think the fact that we had Doom or Doom Eternal on the first Switch, I really expected to see the Dark Ages show up here. Or Halo, because there were speculation. There were rumors of Halo, a version of Halo Master Chief Collection on the Switch. And that's like, that's one that's old as time.
Starting point is 01:21:48 People have been speculating on that since the original Switch. So still hasn't appeared here. That would take up the whole hard drive. That's like 130 gig games. Yeah. Well, the rumor was that it was going to be split into different parts. So you'd basically get maybe the original Halo and then you can buy the others all a card. Running through this partner section, right?
Starting point is 01:22:06 Yeah, we said Eldon Ring Tarnished edition. Hades 2. Street Fighter, which confirmed they will have new amoeboes. Amoeboes? That was a wild one. I really thought we were moving on from that and never going to look back. I love that. I think that's fun and neat.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I love that. Best thing to come out of the Wii seriously. Then you had Damon Hatfield Cross Machina. Split fiction is going to be a launch game.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Joseph Ferris was there to tell us about it. And feel free if you guys want to stop me to talk my thing. I mean, it's a perfect partnered game for them to have.
Starting point is 01:22:33 100% right. I mean, what a great title to have for families that are going to be in front of a couch playing on a singular machine.
Starting point is 01:22:40 That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, uh, EA sports, FC, and Madden will be coming to the switch to at some point. No real details on that
Starting point is 01:22:47 other than the announcement that EA is supporting. Hogwarts Legacy's whatever Super Edition was shown. That's going to be a launch title as well for the Switch 2. Tony Hawk 3 plus 4 will be coming to the Nintendo Switch 2, but more importantly, it's getting a SpongeBob crossover. It's getting a fucking SpongeBob level, dog. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:04 That's what Barrett, I mean, you just make it better for Barrett. That's what it's all about. What was so weird about that segment was, I thought the sink was so off that a SpongeBob game was happening after what we saw. And I was like, oh, they're teasing a SpongeBob game now, but then that didn't happen. and it was like something else entirely after. And the weird way that they introduced it to was like,
Starting point is 01:23:25 I think it's here where, yeah, they go here and then they drop in here. Like I wonder if it's a secret area. Like I wonder if they're teasing something like that in terms of maybe it's not a full level, just like a fun little secret things that they're interjecting into a bunch of levels, which would be fun, you know. Then Hitman World of Assassination was confirmed to be a launch game. But then, definitely on my list of shame.
Starting point is 01:23:51 I've not not played a hitman. Oh, wow. This is a great one. No better time to jump in right now than on the Nintendo Switch 2. There has never been a better time with a mouse control. To hop into Hitman. Yeah. But then they said that Project 007, the James Bond, I.O.
Starting point is 01:24:05 interactive project we know nothing about, but no is happening. But it's happening. We'll be coming to Switch 2 as well. Yeah. I had to hold my breath. I was like, oh my God, we're going to see it. This could be insane at a Switch reveal. But, you know, I, I,
Starting point is 01:24:18 I love that it's coming to Switch 2. Maybe we'll see more. I'd love to see more. Up next was Bravely Default Flying Fairy Remastered. You pop for it. You got mouse mini games now in this one, Cat. Mouse mini games. Yeah, for the little thing they showed.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Yeah, we were talking, there was so much happening at all points of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see, I think there you go. Here's some mouse mini-gues. Underappreciated RPG, buy it. Okay. Support more Bravely Default. Bravely Default 2, low-key, one of the best RPGs on the Nintendo Switch. Give us Bravely Default 3.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Support this game. Thank you. You're welcome. Then Yakuza Zero director's cut will be a launch day title as well. But none of the other ones were confirmed. There is new cutscenes in this too, they said, which is neat. How can they not have the full Yakuza series on this thing? It's everywhere.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Yeah, I know, right. It's on every platform. They'll be a slow-go-all-out. They'll do a slow-roll. But I thought it would be like the dot, dot, dot. Here they all. But I guess, you know, it makes sense. Get people in there.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Get them hooked like so many other people have. From there, we moved on to a collaboration with Koe Tecmo. It is High Rule Warriors, Age of Imprisonment. a prequel of the Tears of the Kingdom coming this winter, you will play Zelda and other characters in this Muso game. Barrett, what do we think? I think this makes sense for, you know, doing more Hyrule Warriors. I think it's awesome that this is the setting that they have chosen
Starting point is 01:25:34 is Zelda's perspective, essentially, of what we see through Tears of the Kingdom. I know, Andy, like, during the director, you're like, oh, is this really the type of game we want for a prequel? And I think it fits, especially with Age of Calamity, being kind of the prequel to Breath of the Wild. I think it makes sense here. And yeah, I'm down for, I'm down for Zelda Muso on a better, on better hardware so that hopefully it runs more than 15 frames per second.
Starting point is 01:26:06 And, you know, I'm not a huge Muso head, but, you know, I love the crossovers that they do. They're always so fun and creative of how they integrate other franchises into their gameplay, like the persona game as well. Yeah, I'm into this. This looks cool. I hate Muso games. Hate them. I hate them.
Starting point is 01:26:26 I just cannot get into the genre at all. But I have to give Koi Techmo credit or they've gotten really good, actually. They do a really great job with other franchises. And I think some people had questions about Age of Calamity's story, but you... We all have questions about Zelda story. Yeah. I want to play Zelda. I want to play as Tears of Kings of Zelda.
Starting point is 01:26:52 I think it's cool that is showing her story in its own game. That's cool. It's like Lion King 1.5. Where were Timoombo the whole time? I want to know Nala's story. It's basically. Well,
Starting point is 01:27:05 Simba was off doing whatever. From there, we moved on to your update for Nintendo Switch online, which of course is coming to the Nintendo Switch 2, and it's coming with the expansion pass. The Nintendo GameCube Library is exclusive to the Nintendo Switch 2 online in the expansion pass. They confirmed three games for launch. Wind Waker, Soul Calibur 2, an F0GX, which will include 4-player online and local multiplayer.
Starting point is 01:27:33 And Barrett, you finally got it. There it is, Wind Waker. Not like this, man. This is disappointing. Again, I feel like similar to the Star Fox racing game that was quote-unquote leaked. which at this point I think it was Nintendo seeing who was leaking stuff internally. I think the Wind Waker Twilight Princess Wii U. HD ports, which was rumored when I was back at IGN,
Starting point is 01:28:02 I think might be a similar situation to see it finally come through Nintendo Switch online. It's a bit, took the wind out of my sales here a little bit, Greg. Sure. Kind of sucks. I'll still play it. The big advantage specifically for Windwaker. HD was the Triforce Quest
Starting point is 01:28:20 was definitely a burden on the GameCube GameCube version and they improved it a lot in the Wii U version which just makes the last third of the game a bit more smooth. I'll still fucking play it though
Starting point is 01:28:35 when Waker kicks ass and I truly miss that game so fuck it I'll It would have been so cool to not see it and go ah that's because we know what's going on but when it's the first thing you see you're like,
Starting point is 01:28:47 will that still happen? It's Nintendo. Maybe they'll shit out that HD remake. Maybe they should out.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Yeah, interesting that we see it here and no Twilight Princess whatsoever. I know people associate it
Starting point is 01:28:59 more with the Wii, but it was technically also a GameCube game, so I don't know, maybe we'll see
Starting point is 01:29:06 those HD remaster. It's got an HD remaster on the Wii U and people of wondering, why the heck didn't come on
Starting point is 01:29:11 on Switch? Yep. It was pretty weird. Very weird. When can I play Mario Galaxy 2? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Well, good news for you. You will be able to play Mario Sunshine again via Nintendo Switch. Luigi's Mansion and a bunch of other ones they put at the end saying more are coming,
Starting point is 01:29:27 but of course you know more are coming. I would rather wrestle a tiger. I have a lot of questions about GameCube. So the NSO has significant input delay and will that be better on the Nintendo Switch too? I want to know. Well, if you spend $65 and get the GameCube controller that's coming on launch day.
Starting point is 01:29:48 They said, the biggest question for that is for melee, because melee is a very precise game. So if melee is not that great on Nintendo Switch online, that'll be a little bit of a miss. On the flip side, GameCube games, relatively hard to play in a lot of ways,
Starting point is 01:30:01 unless they came out as a remaster on the Nintendo Switch. Games like S0GX, awesome to see. Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, that game was practically impossible to find. I sold my copy a while ago for like $120 or something like that,
Starting point is 01:30:15 and it's probably only gone up in Price Sincen. Great Fire Emblem, by the way. So having this collection of games readily available, that's a huge, huge ad. And a lot of this game still look really, really good. Yes, Winwaker is inferior on the GameCube to the Wii U version, but you should still play it. It still looks pretty as hell, though. Still looks great. Look at this. That's a game that'll just age perfectly forever, you know. Remember when everybody was mad about it, Andy? We were stupid. It was a long time ago. We were stupid. Yeah, but I... Gamers were stupid in 2003. It was just the And they're still stupid.
Starting point is 01:30:47 No, we're still stupid. I always thought it was great. Back in the day, I remember holding court in my college bedroom. It wasn't my dorm room. I was living in the antler house. But, like, people just came in and watched me play that. And they loved it. But I think the thing was the swerve, right?
Starting point is 01:30:59 When they revealed the game key, when they showed this realistic game and Link fight, and we were all like, ah. And everything was darker and edgier and everything. Because my stupid ass would have had the new Zelda game looking like the darkness or something. That's what everybody wanted. It would have been stupid as hell, man.
Starting point is 01:31:15 We would have looked back and like, Why did we want that? Shout out to Soul Calibur 2, the best Soul Calibur game. Link is overpowered in that one. It has an amazing single-player mode. And if you have not played a Soul Calibur game, that's the one. Really, really good. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Good to know. Low-key, very fun to play with friends on the couch. From there, we rolled back into more partners. Immediately Barrett Pot for Delta Rune coming on launch day for the Switch 2. Is that the first we'd ever seen of these dates, Barrett? Uh, yeah, Toby Fox had been giving a lot of updates on, like, they have been, uh, bug testing chapters three and four, uh, which we've been waiting on, um, for a while. One and two had been, uh, released previously. So yeah, this, uh, launching on Switch 2. And yeah, I think, uh, this is the entire game, right, Kat? Like, uh, I thought there was more chapters after four, but maybe I'm misremembering. My recollection is that it's one through four. Okay. And there's been, Toby Fox is basically been, teasing this for quite a while now.
Starting point is 01:32:18 So it's a really nice win to have the, secretly one of the bigger announcements during this stream because there's a large, very large and very throathing fandom of Undertale who have been waiting for this for a while now. Chad is correcting us, I believe,
Starting point is 01:32:36 yeah, my thought... Seven chapters. Yeah, seven chapters because each chapter is a day in the week. Forgive me. I'm sorry you. I'm waiting for all seven. It's crazy that this is still not the full game, but there's still so much here. Like the chapters one and two,
Starting point is 01:32:48 I think, we're five to six hours. Seven chapters. Yeah, it's going to be a beefy game. Square, take note. From there,
Starting point is 01:32:58 we rolled on, Randy Pitchford popped up to tell you that in 2025, Borderlands 4 will launch on the Switch 2. From there, we rolled into SIV 7.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Of course, a Switch game already. We'll have a Nintendo Switch 2 in addition. It'll come on launch day for the Switch 2. It'll be a paid-up. upgrade. You will be able to use your mouse.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Mike. Click, click, click, click. Exactly. Then we had a little bit from 2K. They popped up to let you know, WWE and NBA will be coming to the Switch 2 at some point. Don't worry about that. Special K-90 became a member on the Super Chat and said, take two must be excited
Starting point is 01:33:34 to announce the NBA 2K26 is $90 now. Can't imagine how much GTA6 will cost. Yeah, I can't. Kat, let's put it down. You and I, we circle back maybe in a year when we start to see these sports franchises come out. What are they?
Starting point is 01:33:49 Are they always going to be yearly? Can I bank on that as a Switch consumer? Will it maybe turn one day into the Greg Miller fantasy of a live service where we get these content updates and we do that? We know. But yeah, what is the future of sports games on Switch? Can I really rely on them to hit it yearly or will this drop off quickly and all of a
Starting point is 01:34:09 sudden they just abandoned that? It'll be fun to talk about. For sure. From there you got into some quick hits. We saw survival. kids. We didn't actually because the stream died. Then you saw Enter the Gungeon 2 get announced. Nice.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Star Seeker Astroneer Expeditions, Jesus. 2026 is coming out. Really quick. This is the Vod for the live stream. It's still just frozen here, which is, man, that's rough, rough stream for
Starting point is 01:34:37 Kevin Fox. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Cyberpunk 2077, Ultimate Edition was announced and shown it will be a launch day game for the one the only, the Nintendo Switch 2. Final Fantasy 7 remake intergrade got shown, Path of the Goddess.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Silk Song and a sizzle reel. 2025. Keeping the hopes alive, everybody. 2025 being there is still unbelievable. Like, what a tease. Oh, my God. And, you know, cat calling it right perfectly in that moment was hilarious.
Starting point is 01:35:09 I just thought it would be funny that it would be in the sizzle reel because Silk Song is such a huge deal. And they said, Still here. Still coming. Don't worry about it. Don't it's happening. Then it was this rapid fire here, right?
Starting point is 01:35:22 Barrett's showing it. Story of seasons. Good Night Universe. Two-point Museum. Wild Hearts coming July 25th. Wild Hearts S. Was that what the full title was? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Which I'm, you know, it's got to be their own Switch version with maybe more additional stuff in there. Surprising given that EA just completely abandoned that game. Really fast. Real fast. Hey, there is a Monster Hunter turns out on Switch. There you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Let me get you more. I mean, all these enemies look the same, so maybe not. Maybe it's not a full sequel, but. Wild Hearts S is actually coming this time around from Bandai Namco. No, no, Koe Techma. Sorry. Or they made it all the time.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Yeah, they did. Yeah. Let me see what's in here. Great character creator in that game. Koi Tecma always has amazing character creators. Yeah, Wild Hearts S players, master ancient tech to hunt down the giant beast in an imaginative world inspired by feudal of Japan, hunting a pack of up to four players in seamless co-op or play as a lone wolf to fight the fearsome beasts.
Starting point is 01:36:15 uh... same thing as always that's cool good good for them uh then hopping back over to where we were
Starting point is 01:36:25 like I already said whichbrook but which broo poeot tetris got a version ruin factory Marvel cosmic uh invasion uh
Starting point is 01:36:33 they showed Star Wars Outlaws uh no booge's revenge uh fast Furious did I kick something Fast Fusion Uh You said fast and fears
Starting point is 01:36:41 like what? I did it was because I was just thinking what bear was doing uh shadow labyrinth uh raduce I wrote no sleep. I don't think that's the name of the game.
Starting point is 01:36:47 They were coming too fast. Reanimal, Fortnite. Arcade Archives. You just typing your own thoughts. Yeah, exactly. Tomogachi, something or other. Human Fall Fla, too. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:36:56 I wrote what I wrote. A lot of stuff there, Kat. What was the Arcade Archives game again? I know you're going to ask me a question. Good challenge right there. Arcade Archives to Ridge Racing. Oh, yeah. It's Rage Racer.
Starting point is 01:37:10 It's not a switch. It's not a console release unless that's Ridge Racer out there. So I feel really good. Professor Layton, good to see it back. Yeah. Oh, that was pro-Layton that I wrote. I was like, when I was reading my bullet points, like, I don't know what that means. Keep moving, keep moving.
Starting point is 01:37:24 And then, of course. Oh, it wasn't Tomoduchi life. It was Tomoguchi. You son bitch. Tomoguchi. So bitch. The final one, not really, but their last partner title, the Dusk Bloods. Andy, take it away.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Well, there's been a lot of, I don't know if we have any press releases. I was hoping you would just talk about what you thought so I could look for the press release. still completely shocking. I didn't recognize the art style and just kind of the way their characters are rendered. And there was also a stunning lack of, ah. So that's why I was like, this isn't a from software game. We need somebody to say, ah, and then laugh at the end of their statement. But I'm still completely blown away.
Starting point is 01:38:00 I thought it was going to be a Castlevania sort of remake. Weird sort of a cool. Holy shit. What an awesome joining of worlds. But yeah, a brand new IP, a brand new video game, not a sequel. just a new thing for exclusively on the switch two. I mean, really quick. When you have a shot like this, it's like,
Starting point is 01:38:20 this is a Castlevania game, right? Yeah. Yeah. We read from The Verge where Antonio writes, From Software is making a multiplayer switch to exclusive called The Dusk Bloods. It's directed, of course, by Miyazaki. The Dust Blood's a new game from From Software is coming exclusively to Nintendo Switch 2. The teaser trailer debuted,
Starting point is 01:38:36 when I see, damn it. I thought they had the press release. There's a press release over there. Somebody's calling out Melissa with a Y again. Yeah, many people are still. there's a lot of people saying that it is a multiplayer PVE, PVP game. So like Elton Ring, NightRain. Well, no, that's not PVP.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Yeah, PVP. Okay. Yeah, that's PVE. So this is PVPPVE. So it's like Coliseum. Like I talked about with NightRain, what's the elevations in different game plays? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Here we got. Thanks to Melissa with the Y. I got your information here, right? Thank you, Melissa, with the Y. 2026. Developed for the upcoming switch to the Dust Bloods is a PVPVE title with online. multiplayer at its core were up to eight players
Starting point is 01:39:15 vie for supremacy among themselves and against challenging foes. Play as the blood sworn. A group that has transcended human strength thanks to their special blood and throw yourself into a violent fray for first blood as the twilight of humanity approaches.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Currently 2026. Hope you look forward to it. Makes me way less excited. I don't want a PVP thing in my From Software game. Like obviously from software have always had duels and things like that, but I don't want that to be like a part of the core game.
Starting point is 01:39:49 I want to experience a new universe with awesome new lore and storytelling. Sure. Not what I want, but I'm still stoked to give it a shot. What do you think the chances are you eat those words that you get into this? You're like, holy shit. We did kind of eat them on night red. I guess PVE has always been different for me because I've played multiplayer from software games.
Starting point is 01:40:10 and for me it was more of the the worry factor for me for night rain was more of like oh you this feels like a bastardization of something that's so special to me and you're just kind of going for rogu light blah blah blah and it's still obviously worked because we've played multiplayer Eldon Ring plenty we played seamless co-op plenty
Starting point is 01:40:29 and it's always a blast to play Eldon Ring and Souls games with Friends adding the PVP nature of it I feel like just adds you know it depends on how it's implemented obviously. I think if you're constantly running around and you're seeing other people doing their thing running around, I just don't know if I want that out of my, out of my From Software experience. I agree with the chat. Let me asaki Cook. I think that the online multiplayer space badly needs innovation.
Starting point is 01:41:00 And I really appreciate that from software, amazing, incredible single player with a actually pretty decent online pedigree, is going and really trying to innovate in that space first with Night Rain and now with this. And what it sounds like is that you have kind of an interesting world or arena that you're playing with other players, maybe almost a battle royale situation, filled with the classical from software level design, enemies, bosses, question mark. There has to be right. Oh, yeah, we definitely saw a gigantic wolf-looking dude. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:36 It sounds like a really interesting mixture of elements. and I don't know how confused it's going to be, but I mean, it's from software. I'm with you, Kat. I like when they... I like them. I want them to try different things, right? I think we know the bread and butter.
Starting point is 01:41:53 We know they're going to go back to the single player games all the time. We're going to get those epic experiences. But to see them try something different and really try to innovate in the space that you and I, Andy, we want them to be better at, which is the online multiplayer connectivity. Oh, yeah. And make that a little bit smoother. I love that. Like, right now,
Starting point is 01:42:10 we are seeing them throw some things at the wall and say, hey, how do we at least try? And so I love that Night Rain is that, hey, PVE, we got squad of three. We're going to go out and have some fun. I'm interested in this of like, is it eight solo combatants running around a giant arena? And there's that fun push and pull that you always get in a Dark Souls game of somebody invades you. And it's the tiptoe of who's going to strike first? Who's going to step forward at me?
Starting point is 01:42:36 I love the idea of maybe me creeping up behind someone. maybe looking across the battlefield at one or two other people and seeing how we're going to engage with each other. You talk about a cat, like Miyazaki and this team at From Software have really made an incredible combat system that is fun and difficult to master and it's so engaging moments to moment that I would love to be able to battle others.
Starting point is 01:43:00 I liked Dark Souls with their online arena combats and the idea of taking that to another level of school for me. Whenever this would all be amazing, to me if it wasn't the year 2025, because when I think of the way multiplayer games work nowadays, three days in, there's like, there's an established meta, what's the meta, what's the, and that's like, that's the thing that ruins the experience for me. And I think you have to take this game more seriously because they say it is led by Miyazaki. This is the fucking dude who could be working on whatever he wants right now, and he's working on this game. And
Starting point is 01:43:37 that adds a lot of pedigree, and that adds a lot of excitement. But then on the flip side of it, the reason why I was a lot cooler with night rain is because I'm like, well, Miyazaki's not working on this. Miyazaki, we know, is cooking the next big thing. And it's very likely he likely is still making the next big thing over there that is going to be their cross-platform gigantic experience. I just hope this isn't the only thing he's working on. I just got to show some respect to From Software, a studio that is not going to rest on established franchises. It has a house style. He knows who it is.
Starting point is 01:44:11 That's good. But it's innovating. It's trying new things. It's going out and making interesting experiences. And frankly, I'm here for it because too many studios are playing it really safe because they feel like they have to. From Software is consistently playing with house money.
Starting point is 01:44:26 So, yeah, I'm in. I want to see what this is. If anything, I'm with Mike where it's like, this may not be the exact thing I want. I'm just excited that they are stepping out of their,
Starting point is 01:44:38 our multiplayer systems have always sucked. Yeah. Night Rain kind of being, well, Eldon Ring making things easier, and even then it's not easy to do. It's, you have to go farm a little fucking flower to summon a friend in. It's always sucked. And then when they talked about, when they're asked, hey, have you seen this, the seamless PC mod? And they're like, yeah, it's kind of neat. We would love to bring experiences like that in the future.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Night Rain gets debuted and we're like, holy shit, whoa, they were serious. they had always been working on something to not make multiplayer painting the ass to join up with friends. And this being another option, like, if anything, this isn't exactly what I want from the next big Frum software Miyazaki led project. But it shows me that they're taking multiplayer serious, which makes me very excited that I don't have to go farm a goddamn jewel in a cave, you know. And I'm sure we'll talk more about it because we're kind of funny. We really love Souls games. So I'm sure we'll go deeper. But like the guns turning into a T-Rex.
Starting point is 01:45:35 These are things. are not really seeing often in the soul's-born genre that we see in these games. So I like this. It reminded me of making the dragon out of your hand when you're doing like dragon spells. Do you think it would be like a battle royale where sometimes you're fighting each other, but then sometimes you find yourself in a situation where you're fighting an enemy together and maybe you can get some rewards for doing so. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Team up. I like that. Dark zone. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it reminds me a lot of a lot of other PVPVE games where it's like, hey, I know you want to kill me right now, but there's this big thing that we could take on, you know, we'll see how the players are in the back.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Yeah, it's going to be a lot of my tactical crouching. Like, please be on my team. Don't kill me. Help me out. Help me out here. We then moved into Kirby Air Riders. A brand new title originated from the Nintendo GameCube Classic Racing Action Game Kirby Air Ride. Of course, Zachari, the director of Super Smash
Starting point is 01:46:28 for the series was announced and it was announced to release this year. The trailer revealed a dramatic introduction of Kirby on his warp star machine and other Kirby Air Riders on a variety of unique machines as they joined together on a racetrack. Kirby Air Riders will glide on the Nintendo Switch 2 in 2025. And Kat, you called it. Yeah, I guess I did. You called a lot of things that people were excited about.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Well, in fairness, I was looking at the chat and somebody said Kirby Air Rite too, and I'm like, oh, that sounds about right. And sure enough, Sakrari loves Kirby so much. He loves it because of his history with Iwada and Hal Laboratory and everything. So, and it, he's kind of wanted a break, I think, from Smash Brothers. He's been very open about how hard he's been working on those games and how much is taken out of him.
Starting point is 01:47:14 He did a really wonderful series on YouTube that you should definitely go and watch because he made it, he financed it himself as a gift to the games industry and a piece of really lovely history. So look, I don't know actually that much about Kirby Air Ride came on the GameCube in 2003. I guess it was a land multiplayer game, one of the handful. of them. So pushing the technology forward as usual. But it's just nice. It's nice. Kirby's cute. Everybody loves Kirby. I was when this happened though, my main thing was like, I hope this isn't the last one more thing. I don't want to end on Kirby Airwriters. Personally, this is a non-curby aficionado. So when they debuted Donkey Kong Bonanza, at first I thought it was Mario. I got super
Starting point is 01:47:54 excited. Realize it was Donkey Kong, got kind of disappointed and then let it play. And I was like, God damn, this is a game. Get ready for Donkey Kong Bonanza. A brand new 3D platforming action adventure available exclusively on Nintendo Switch 2. Crash, bash, and climb through nearly everything in D.K.'s path and tear off chunks of terrain to swing around and throw in groundbreaking exploration. The more that is demolished with powerful punches, the more areas open up to discover. Break on through this adventure full of mayhem, surprises, and bananas when Donkey Kong Bonanza crashes onto Nintendo Switch on July 17th, 2020.
Starting point is 01:48:31 D.K. Donkey Kong. Dunk's back home. BK. Break it through all these environments, all of the, you know, reminiscent of, you know, having the way
Starting point is 01:48:42 you can break through ground and walls and stuff in survival type games. Like, it's just so cool to see, man, they're really trying to explore how much they can push this tech, because that's really expensive to do on hardware, to, you know, to have everything
Starting point is 01:48:58 sort of breakable and, you know, you're seeing so much destructability, You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I love Levolution, Mike. It seems, because there was the Mario Odyssey mechanic where you could, like, there was, like, the, uh, yellow bricks or whatever that you could, like, throw stuff at and it would break. It seems like they really fucked with that. And they're like, let's make an entire game around that, which is, I hope so, Baird, because, like, the amount of joy that I found, I mean, I can't imagine how amazing it's going to feel with the HD Rumble.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Because the amount of joy I found through just walking through a shitload of marbles and Astrobot and feeling all of the vibrations and stuff. This seems like it's going to be very similar to that where you are breaking through gigantic cliff face and there's a bunch of collectible coins and all of that. It's just like sensory overload. This game looks like it's just, it's going to be nonstop serotonin hits. I just saw the Donkey Kong country level and that makes me think that this is Donkey Kong's answer to Mario Odyssey.
Starting point is 01:49:57 A celebration of all things Donkey Kong going back to the very beginning. there will be a Donkey Kong level where you're Donkey Kong throwing the barrels at Mario I'm calling it right now and that would actually be pretty cool set to jump up superstar I was going to say maybe you get a little
Starting point is 01:50:16 sticker bust symphony callback or something like that but I I think we were already talking about this earlier Nintendo really wants to revitalize Donkey Kong as a concept that's why he was such a big part of the Super Mario movie
Starting point is 01:50:29 I mean there's been rumors of a Donkey Kong movie separate from all that because they see it as a huge part of their history and he is. Big, big part of their history going back to the universal lawsuit and what the 1980s. So from John Kirby, John Kirby was for lawyer. Yeah, I would have never expected Donkey Kong land to be the next Nintendo theme park being created, right? So like the fact that that is the, it all just kind of makes sense they are going for this marketing push. It's Miyamoto, right? That's Miyamoto's game.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Yeah. Marin the Super Chat, Marron in the Super Chat says, DK Bananza feels like a complete reboot of the DK IP. New art style, no signs of Diddy or the rest of the DK crew, K-Rul or any K-Remlins. Yeah, where's K-Rul, man? I think they'll come back. You think so?
Starting point is 01:51:14 I think they'll be in there. This looks like a multi-world kind of set up, maybe similar to Odyssey, see how they're showing different areas and spinning the camera around. So I think that there will be areas that have the Kong clan in there and the King K rule and whatnot. So we're just not seeing them right here because they want to keep the focus on
Starting point is 01:51:36 the Levolution. It was called that. Somebody called it Red Faction Gorilla. That's good, Chad. No, they did it. Great job. Yeah, I really appreciated that. So I think they wanted to keep a focus on that,
Starting point is 01:51:49 but I bet they'll show up in some level. Like I said, celebration of all things, Donkey Kong. And that, ladies, gentlemen, and NBs was your Nintendo. switch to direct. So much has happened while we've been live. We, of course, right at the beginning, India at 10, the 9.5s down the line once we figured out we could do that.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Does, are we still stick? How do you tackle that in your own head cannon? Because I feel like it was a great presentation, an amazing presentation. And then since then, that's where we're getting the left and rights, right? Here's what the pricing is going to be. Here's what's going on over there. I don't think it changes what the presentation was, but it's definitely left a different air around us as we.
Starting point is 01:52:29 we wrap up here and go into games. 9.5. I'll go down to, but then I remember Silk Song back to 10. But again, it's the presentation. You know what I mean? It's a weird one. It's a weird one. In terms of presentation, I would keep it at a 9. Just the presentation in and of itself. How I'm feeling after
Starting point is 01:52:45 all of this would be like a 7.5. Oh, wow. You're kind of sleepy, you know? Well, just in terms of pricing, in terms of game pricing, the context and why that's happening
Starting point is 01:53:00 and what that's going to lead to in the future, that has brought me down a lot. For sure. So I've been through a lot of these launches, and there's always a lot of discourse whenever they announce prices, announce a lot of things. I have no doubt that the price
Starting point is 01:53:16 will be a huge discussion point all the way up into the release of the Switch 2. Betas always. It's about the games. It's about the games. Nintendo seems to know that this time around. They've put a huge focus on the games. Really good third-party partnership.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Really strong mix of first-party games between Mario Kart World and the Nintendo Switch online upgrades and also Donkey Kong. If Donkey Kong is the Astrobot of this year, if it's on a Mario Odyssey level, no one's going to be talking about that. They'll all be talking about Donkey Kong and how you have to play the best game of the year
Starting point is 01:53:53 on the new Nintendo Switch, which, by the way, has 120 FPS and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hell yeah. So if the games live up to the hype, then they'll be fine. Do you see this cat being a thing that immediately reverberates throughout the industry? Are we going to see PlayStation Xbox immediately jump up to 80s? Yeah, Nintendo knows what's happening. They're setting expectations.
Starting point is 01:54:12 It's going to, and other platform holders are going to follow suit. I would not be shocked if going forward a lot of games start retailing for $80 or $100 in the near future. This is it. prices are going up. This is the first wave of the trend that's going across the entire games industry. And frankly, it has been for a little while now. Just wait to buy that microSD whatever card, express card, Black Friday deal, right?
Starting point is 01:54:38 You can get a good Black Friday deal. That's probably the cheapest thing you buy for this thing. That's going to be the cheapest most easiest thing you buy. Exactly, right. Mike, you love swiping the card. Does this price, has it brought down your hype? Yeah, the presentation-wise, I'm still going with amazing. 9 out of 10, 9.5 for us.
Starting point is 01:54:53 I think the presentation was a lot of fun. My feelings after this, I'm sitting out about an eight. A great. I was really pleased with this. I'm feeling good about the games. I'm excited to get there. I'm not the biggest Nintendo guy. So if I was,
Starting point is 01:55:06 I'd probably be a little bit higher. But like right now, I walk out of this going Nintendo Switch 2. Hey, that's great. I'm there with you. Yeah, presentation, I think it was outstanding, right? Then to get here and have all this. And like, I'm still excited.
Starting point is 01:55:17 I still can't wait. It sucks, yeah, that games are more, but then in a long, it's this whole conversation of, well, $10, more than what it would normally be, right? And then there's a million super chats. I've gone through.
Starting point is 01:55:27 I'm trying to get... Nicholas wrote in and said, the price increased is harshest on Nintendo's core demo, which is kids. $60 was prohibitive. $80 is almost a full barrier to entry. Sales will be big. It's this push and pull of, like, again,
Starting point is 01:55:40 being an adult, being an old person. Like, okay, $10 more dollars than what I'm paying for other games sucks, but isn't backbreaking. Of course, the economy's in a very different spot. Where will it be about the time this launches? Who knows? Yada, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 01:55:51 But to get back to the kids thing, it's an interesting discussion in how many is it going to be that every game on the Switch 2 is $80 or is it just Nintendo's games? There's a lot to figure out and Sift through as we go. There will be digital only games I'm sure that will not be $80. We're living in a world right now where free to play games are really
Starting point is 01:56:07 dominating the market as well and people these kids, the younger youth, are playing free to play titles like Fortnite Roblox. They're on Minecraft. They're playing games that aren't these bigger titles. So we'll see, they still have the goods. We know they have great games, but if I can see where we're at.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Jack, it's two gone. It's two, the chat's moving too fast. CJ Splits on was saying, to be fair, and it's not a knock against kind of funny. Most,
Starting point is 01:56:29 the gaming press gets their games for free. Ah, not Nintendo games. Nintendo sends us one review code and then maybe you're lucky. Two for the others. So no, this actually does hit kind of funny. I buy a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:56:41 I'm not downplaying the price. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that video games in general
Starting point is 01:56:46 will become harder and harder for people because the economy is going to get worse. Yeah. Nintendo also, though has jealously guarded the value of its games because there's a flip side problem that the games industry has, which is that games come out for $70 and then immediately drop to like $10 or $15 on the latest sale. Nintendo doesn't do that. People find that really irritating, but Nintendo, but it has worked for Nintendo because it has kept their games from being devalued,
Starting point is 01:57:15 has kept people from going, I'll just wait for the sale. Yeah. So it's tough. It's a tough one out there. video games are a premium, very expensive hobby. They're a luxury item right now. And it's hitting Nintendo too. Yeah, Jeff Bull Jr. calls out that the yen is not doing good right now. Maybe another reason prices are so high globally. An interesting wrinkle that we're going to cover a million different things, but I want to try to give you a comprehensive games cast before Paris and Gary coming to talk about games daily.
Starting point is 01:57:40 There is one going around about game key cards. Has anybody seen these? Nintendo Switch to Game Key Card Overview. Game key cards are different from regular game cards, they don't contain the full game data. Instead, the game key card is your key to downloading the full game on your system via the internet.
Starting point is 01:57:59 After it's downloaded, you can play the game by inserting the game key card into your system and starting it up like a standard physical game card. Basically, if you went to the store, rather than buy a box with a voucher code in it, you'd be buying a game key card so that you couldn't, you can't just
Starting point is 01:58:15 share the card, you can't just share, it's DRM. It's just a new DRM but a physical DRM. they've been I mean this kind of technology has existed for quite a while hasn't it there have been plenty of games that are in the box basically but you have a download that you need to do sure but this one makes you keep the card right yeah so this is the idea that before I would have bought it and I would have had the physical code great or I'm sorry I would bought the code out of the physical box put it on my system and then it's just a digital game
Starting point is 01:58:40 this is oh I want to play the game I bought with a game key card I need to go into my library of game key cards but that game key card into my system you just keep no which would make me go no I'm never buying a game key card I'll just buy the digital code. Stop it now. They're making it harder and harder to be a physical game older. They are. That is 100% correct.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Also the additional premium for buying physical games as well is kind of rough. 100%. A couple more superchats to get you out of here. Patrick wrote in and said, might be alone, but Nintendo's crappy business practices suck the oxygen out of this one. New pricing of games plus upgrade costs of old games
Starting point is 01:59:12 equals oof. And I don't think you're alone, Patrick, but I do think it'll be interesting to see how much that actually gets in the way of this being a runaway success. Everybody buys it in the country. It's all people are going to talk about. Which is why I was so shocked by the,
Starting point is 01:59:24 play this game with your friends and they don't have to buy a copy. I think everything else has spoken to, hey, you got money. You'll be fine. Everything else in that presentation showed that they don't really give a damn. But except for that moment, that's the one that said out to me as like, weird. I'm shocked they don't make them make your friends pay more, you know? Taking a step back is a very different environment from 2017 really quickly.
Starting point is 01:59:49 there's a lot of dedicated handheld PCs it's not as unique a lot of people have moved over to mobile so there are actually a fair number of questions facing switch to their biggest weapon is that they have the first party exclusives Nintendo games. We talked about the competition me and Greg
Starting point is 02:00:04 of like there's a different world now there's a lot of people in this little handheld space but yeah the first party games really drive it and I think Mike brings up a great brought up a great point earlier that you know this being harshest on families I don't really know if the price would have necessarily mattered
Starting point is 02:00:22 because families are still, families who aren't watching, you know, gaming, new shows and aren't really fully in the know go, all you do is play Fortnite, play that on your PS4. You already do that all the time anyway. No, you're not getting a switch. You play on your Xbox all the damn time. You play Roblox on your, on the laptop I bought you five years ago. You don't need a series.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Well, see, I think that argument in a different direction that I think is interesting. It goes back to Matt Piscatelli being on this show from Sircona and talking about attach rates, right? I would see it being the parents $450 for a Switch 2 It's a Christmas gift It's a birthday gift I know how much
Starting point is 02:00:52 You played your Switch 1 for hours And it gave me Mom a piece of mind To be able to talk while you did that Right We'll get you that Plus it plays all your old games Plus you can keep playing Fortnite
Starting point is 02:01:02 Which you're obsessed with And then Once twice a year There's some Nintendo game That you want on that And that's even stretching it Right For the way the kids in my life
Starting point is 02:01:11 Engage with their Switch Where it is Sure Zelda But like I guess that would be the one game Then right Then it's like then it's like are they paying attention to the overall industry that this is actually
Starting point is 02:01:19 more expensive than what a standard PS5 game would be at the moment but who knows about yeah there's a lot there's a lot to wear and have to suss out as we go on there really quick so you want to see the home screen yes i have seen it go for it's it's groundbreaking yeah yeah yeah there it is man can you please upgrade this can we have themes how is this the same as it was in 2017 you will be able to get themes for $10 extra Unless for this one theme that's included with Nintendo Switch online, but the other ones will be $10 extra. Why does they have to be so boring?
Starting point is 02:01:52 Nintendo, come on. What are you doing? Be the fun ones. Throw them up. Volk dash your super chat and said price and from soft game being an online multiplayer game have had a bit of a downer on me, but still first day pre-order. It's Nintendo.
Starting point is 02:02:03 They got the magic. And that will be the super chat. We leave you on to figure out what's going on there. As course, as prices are continuing to be all over the place in terms of what's going on where it's going on. Ladies, gentlemen, and NBs, thank you so much for joining this episode
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Starting point is 02:03:11 So play it on Switch 2 and then listen to that. Patreon.com slash blood got pot. Thank you. Mike and Andy, thank you as always for your service. Thank you, Greg, for a great morning. Thank you to Kat for coming in so early
Starting point is 02:03:22 and hanging out with us. Shout to Barrett running. I had a great day. I had a great time. My day's not over. I was going to say, remember you get like maybe an hour and a half break the way Gary talks
Starting point is 02:03:30 and then you get to go play Pokemon with Nick the rest of the day. I don't know why you agree to that. You stayed up playing the game? Schedule one. How late were you up? About 30. Mike.
Starting point is 02:03:41 We were working it. Jen went to bed at like 9. I was like, you know what? That sounds like a good idea. It still took me like an hour to wind down, but I was right. It doesn't matter. Ladies, gentlemen, and NBs,
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