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Episode Date: August 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The month and year are halfway over, and that means so is the Kind of Funny membership drive. If you love the nearly 20 live shows we do each week, we'd love for you to throw a Kind of Funny membership our way on Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny Games and YouTube. Thank you, and we'll see all of you for the happy hour this Friday on YouTube, but only members can call to talk to us. Good morning, good afternoon, and welcome to today's Kind of Funny Games cast for Wednesday, August 21st, 2004. I'm one of your show host, Snowbike, Mike. And today I'm joined by the whole gang. The team is back. And we got Greg Miller in the office, but I'll start off with my main man.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Blessing at E.O.A. Jr., Mr. Kickball. What up, Bless. How are you? Good day, Mike. My two X-K-O doubles partner. Oh, yeah. Andy, you're out. It's me and bless, only. I'm so destroyed by this news.
Starting point is 00:00:58 So just, you know, just battered that I can't spend more time with you. I want to spend all my time with you. I feel. When Mike says miss you to Andy But it's Of course, out here on the lineup, we have Andy Cortez. Andy, how are you? I'm doing great, Mike.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Andy, I'm playing through armored core. I'm thinking about you, having a good time. I didn't make an ugly mech. I'm really, really proud of you, man. It's a good-looking meck. Took off all my sponsors because I want you to know that my mind has been opened by the coral.
Starting point is 00:01:26 And I've rejected the sponsor dollars. And now I'm there for the Rubiconians. Yeah. Friday, Mike. That goes all about it. If people know, they know. He says while wearing this 100th piece. Send me the T-shirt.
Starting point is 00:01:40 He's out of his fucking mine. $280. Nate John, help me out. Send this. Send this. And of course, today's special guests. He's back in the office. We've missed him so much.
Starting point is 00:01:50 What up, Greg Miller. How are you? I am great, Michael. How are you? It does me well to be on a show again with you. Yeah, you had Gary Whittah earlier today on Games Daily. It's nice to have the crew together. Nice to have a Witta Wednesday as well.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Thanks for making that happen. Anytime. That's what I do for you guys. How are you doing? today you're back from vacation how are you feeling back in the office good never enough time you know what i mean wish i had more free time got a thousand emails to do and projects to go off of bad preschool drop off today we keep trying to we're trying to find the sauce on how to do it right way yesterday was the irish goodbye we're no every we just faded away jim didn't feel good
Starting point is 00:02:23 about that one so today was the all right we're meltdown city like all right we got to dial this you know you know you should do the ones you see go viral on uh it's usually with dogs but it could work where you have the blanket up, you hold the blanket and you drop it and then you're you saw the photo of crying with the glass, right? Yeah, I did see that. I mean, that's the perfect kind of situation because he can't like go past the glass of it. What would they go?
Starting point is 00:02:44 Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm good, Mike, and I'm happy playing some games, redacted and such. Yeah, you're playing a lot of games. I'm excited to talk games with you because today's episode is all about you, Greg Miller. And we're going to talk about that in just a couple of moments because of course this is the kind of funny games cast each and every weekday. We get together
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Starting point is 00:03:48 Becoming a PC gamer? We'll talk about that in just a second. Of course, the boys are back in town on Friday, August 23rd at 8 p.m. Join Nick, Josh McCougah, and Mark Ellis live and in person for a night of comedy. at the Lost Church, San Francisco. This is a one night only, so grab your seat fast before they sell out. Head to kindof funny.com slash comedy for details and tickets.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Don't forget we're an 11-person small business, all about live talk shows. Today you've gotten Kind of Funny Games daily talking about Xbox exclusive, Xbox's exclusive strategy, and later you'll get the stream of Concord with me and the boys jumping in for Concord Day 1. One. Has he played some last night?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Played some last night. Domenated. It feels good. Cool new maps. Cool. Like a very hectic sort of new-ish mode. Yeah. Just felt really,
Starting point is 00:04:44 really good. And I read a lot. Yeah. What's that mean? He's insulting the amount of words are probably in the game. Yeah, bless. Just so you know, there's called a galactic map. And that galactic map is your central for all things lore.
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Starting point is 00:05:14 favorite characters. Yeah. Andy says he loves it because he loves menus. No, I haven't read. I love gameplay. I haven't looked into any of it. I didn't really read any of it, but they do have a sort of Titanfall time trial, sort of like speed through time trial. I did try that. I was like, oh, this is different.
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Starting point is 00:05:50 Come on. Thank you to the people who support us over on Patreon, like our Patreon producers for the month, Carl Jacobs and Delaney Twining. Thank you so much. Today we're brought to you by hymns and our frames, but we'll tell you all. about that later. Let's get in to topic of the show. Greg Miller's a PC
Starting point is 00:06:10 gamer now? What the heck is happening, Greg? Tell me about this. What's going on? I'll stop everybody right at the top. All right. No, my wife didn't leave me. I didn't have to move in with my mom, like so many of you PC gamers, and go into the basement and sit there in the dark corner. Cheetos all over me, the Mr. Pib right there.
Starting point is 00:06:31 fucking crying as I alt tab between Dota and porn. I'm so lonely, but I need to guard the mid lane. You know what I mean? I'm not that kind of PC gamer. Just desperate and sad. On Twitter all the time,
Starting point is 00:06:45 just yelling at people spreading the truth like me, Greg Miller. No, no, no, Mike, I'm a different kind of PC gamer. Which, of course, it's blessing sensationalizing the headline.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I wanted to come in and have a nice little conversation about, hey, I don't even make the headline. Here's my gaming summer vacation. Here's my gaming summer vacation What I did for two weeks with games
Starting point is 00:07:04 Because I went outside my comfort zone, Mike A lot of talk about that lately We're stepping out of the box 2024 and beyond And I'll be surprised beyond That you know Going outside of my comfort zone Led me to the personal computer a couple times
Starting point is 00:07:15 Wow For a couple different things But obviously the one that has turned the most heads Is the fact that I started wow Yeah Yeah There it is I started wow
Starting point is 00:07:27 I think for the first time There's a slight chance I might have touched it in the past for 10 minutes. I'm like, I hate this and left or whatever. Yeah. And I think it's an interesting journey to get there, right? It begins with the one and only devil. Diablo.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Everybody knows I love Diablo, period. But Diablo 4 I've been obsessed with. If we have time here, I'm going to get to the fact that I flattened it. It was a journey to get there. That's a whole different conversation. But this one begins actually a couple weeks ago before I left when I went to Blizzard campus. And I went down and played Vessel of.
Starting point is 00:08:00 hatred. I shouldn't say that, actually. I played the new class, Spirit-Born, which will be in Vessel of Hatred, right? Went down there, saw the new map played it. We talked about it in that episode where Rod was up here. We had to talk with that. Zanth was there. We had a whole conversation in reaction stream, yada, yada, yada. So this isn't about the preview of that. As much as it was, on the way down there, I'm on the plane. I'm like, I want to play something, went through the switch a bunch of different times. Nothing was hitting. Nothing was wanted. And then I remember that I had this little nugget.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh. Advanced copy of Jason Schreier's new book, Play Nice. What is it? The rise, fall and future of Blizzard Entertainment. And I was like, oh, that's, I love Jason's books, period. Everybody should go check them out, right? Press reset. The other one that I'm blanking on the name of, but there's two other ones.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You can check it out for Jason, right? Blood Sweat and Pixels. Thank you very much. That is correct. And so I started this on the plane, and it was really bizarre to be reading about, like, you know, I'm crushing out of the plane because I'm just fucking so smart. I read so fast. about Blizzard and its inception and these stories and all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And then jump to the next morning I'm on Blizzard's campus. And it's, you know, they got the orc statue. So cool. All the stuff and blah, blah, blah. My dream. Play Diablo and talk to Rod and see the president of Blizzard, not, you know, Biden wasn't there. Oh, okay. A whole bunch of different people there.
Starting point is 00:09:21 But it was like, you see the statue of the hardcore names that have been etched in if you did the Diablo thing. I remember. But I'm going to be an alliance character. That's not a very good. That's a bad Biden. Yeah. Was it? It wasn't?
Starting point is 00:09:36 It was like a four out of ten? Give me a Trump saying he's going to be a horde. We have to be the horde. We're going to go horde. And once you go horde, you never go back, everybody. It's so good. Anyways, though, then I kept reading the book, but like being on Blizzard campus and seeing where it was going,
Starting point is 00:09:55 then reading the book and seeing what was happening, there's a whole bunch of really fascinating stuff happening for me personally. which is I, you know, the jokes aside of PC characters and Greg the PlayStation fanboy and yada, yeah, yeah, yeah. My career is PlayStation based because I was hired to be a PlayStation reporter. So I just knew that forever, right? And through that, you know, I know Xbox tangentially, gengently, right? Because I'm paying attention to reacting. But I was never a PC gamer.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I was never a Blizzard guy, right? So it's bizarre when I'm reading the things in the book. And I'm like, oh, I remember Charles. on yet talking about that. I remember this happening in IGN in 2007 and seeing all these areas and it gave me such a
Starting point is 00:10:37 and you know it's the good and bad of Blizzard of which there's much obviously and Jason goes into it all and just the book is fantastic this is not Jason's gonna come in October come be on the shows come talk about it.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I will tell you now if you love video games and great stories about video games pre-order it like for real you can go get it right now October 8th is when it comes out which is funny because that's when Diablo Vessel of Hature comes out as well.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I pulled a little scheme because he DM me was like do you want a physical or or digital? Yeah. I was like, give me a digital.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I was like, no, wait, send me the physical because I want to have it here. Yeah. But I'm going to buy the digital and then get like the like a,
Starting point is 00:11:15 you know, voice to text to speech sort of thing. Oh, podcast, you know what I mean? There's got to be an audio version. He also, yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:21 when came in my DMs and he sent me a, but he didn't give me the choice. He just gave me the physical version. If I knew there was a digital, I would ask for the digital. Oh, nice. I also want to do the Texas speech.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah, yeah. So the story of Blizzard is so fascinating. Jason's writing is so good in general. And then it is this really big blind spot for me of not knowing it, right? And so when you're hearing about it, and it's funny too because like, you know, David Breivik, Diablo 2, right? Super famous for making Diablo what Diablo is. I know David from Marvel Heroes when I interview him about that. So hearing about his first company when they were working on a Justice League game, I texted David.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I'm like, I had no idea. He made that Justice League game. I fucking love that game. I digress. The elves of Elis of Elwyn Forest. It's this idea of The Alliance. As I'm reading it, I'm having this real
Starting point is 00:12:06 FOMO of nostalgia. Of like, dude, I fucking love Diablo so much. I have since Diablo 3, which was my first entry to it, right? And the obsession I currently have with it, let alone being there
Starting point is 00:12:19 and seeing this rich history and all the stuff and, you know, the good and bad they've been through and stuff, I found myself being like, I want to go to BlissCon? Like, I wish I had gone to,
Starting point is 00:12:28 I re-downloaded Heartstone on my phone because I was right there and then I was like oh it's PVP I don't want to do that So blizz-pilled man It's like it's like Overwatch has never even met my thing And X Y and C and it was that idea of like
Starting point is 00:12:38 Damn I don't think I ever gave World of Warcraft a shot Because at the time when it was new I wasn't playing MMOs And I definitely wouldn't have had a taste for it Or had a PC that could probably do well with it And so also is it the fantasy aspect a little bit Yeah a little bit but you know how that is now
Starting point is 00:12:53 Where I'm over that to the There's fantasy games that speak to me all the time New World Eternum right I'm stoked for it. That's a conversation that'll come up again when we get to it. But it was like, I was like, man, I want to go to Blisscon? And I'm like, I want to start wow. So like, this is after our vacation now because I finished the book on vacation.
Starting point is 00:13:10 We were in the car on the way home. And Jen, I was like, Jen, I got something crazy to tell you. And she's like, what? I'm like, you're not going to believe this. She's like, what's going on? I'm like, I'm going to install wow when we get home with today. And she's like, no, you're not. And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And like, Jen was obsessed with wow. Like that's what her. That is one of her games, right? And, like, informative, if she was on kind of funny content, she would, in the same way, I talk about fucking DC Universe or fucking death and return to Superman, like this would come up all the time for her, right? Of like how many hundreds of hours and all these different characters and yada,
Starting point is 00:13:43 yada, yada. And she was like, if you are going to start playing, wow, I have to play with you. And she's like, literally, this will be a religious experience for me. And I was like, oh, shit, fuck, all right, cool. So I went downstairs and got both the PCs up and running that we got, Got it. Wow installed, did the whole thing. Set it up for the photo there with the two of us. And we went down there and jumped in.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And it was, I want everyone to know the criticisms I will have of wow. I realize I'm talking about an old game. I'm talking about a 20-year-old game right at this point. I understand that the games that I love have pulled so much from Wow, that it's not fair to critique Wow for not doing it as well as the game. It inspired. You know what I mean? Like there's that thing.
Starting point is 00:14:26 where you always think about rose tinted glasses. You always think about jumping into an old game, all these different things. So to jump into an old ass MMO, like I was not impressed with while. I'm impressed with like what it's done in this. You did classic? Yeah. No, no, no, no. No, I did wow.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I did wow. Oh, okay. The current wow. I thought about jumping into classic. I did not. I wanted to just go with what it is now. Obviously, War Within is about to pop off. It's actually this week, right?
Starting point is 00:14:53 This week. End of the week. Mike's ready. I already renewed my subscription You have early access now, don't you? I'm ready. But anyways, jumped in there and-
Starting point is 00:15:02 And up threw away the key. He was like, do not let me change this ever. I jumped in and, you know, I'd say, what, three nights of it, Jen didn't return for the second
Starting point is 00:15:11 night or whatever, but it was me still going out there. And I, you know, I wanted to do something different, so I rolled a hunter to begin with and I had out of control my Griffin and doing that thing.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And I was like, man, I hate this. I hate having a pet. I should have been a rogue. Rewol the rogue the next night, went back in as a rogue. Had way more fun with that. But the real turning point was to meet night two, where I tweeted out of like,
Starting point is 00:15:30 I can't believe this thing doesn't. Oh, actually somebody else had already said in my thing. I can't believe when I put up the photo, somebody put out like, I can't believe this thing doesn't have controller support. Crazy. And then somebody responded like, no, they patched in years ago. It has controller support. And then there was this back and forth of like, all right, so you plug in the controller.
Starting point is 00:15:46 You do this command in chat. You can use the controller, but nothing's keybound to it. And then it was, bear, can you pull up the PC controller mod? somebody was like, no, no, if you're going to do it, you have to get this mod that I forget the name of. There you. Console port. And they're like, it'll be a life changer, game changer. And it was that thing where I literally had played for a couple hours that night with keyboard and mouse and just been like, I just this isn't me and I can't do it. And it is hampering my experience of it where it's just like the, I'm not enjoying not being like over running too far from where I want to be. And again, it would be the same if there's another console that had a controller that was so radically different than what we already use. It's going to take a lot of it. I'm like, this is hampering the experience of it.
Starting point is 00:16:31 So I don't even want to do it. And I stopped that night. And that's when I went on Twitter and saw this. And he clicked on it. I'm like, oh, it's this thing. And I'm like, all right, download the mod. And I open up this zip file of all these fucking folders. And this is right after we had done the fallout London thing.
Starting point is 00:16:45 We had been a whole bunch of stuff. I guess it's going to be a bitch to do. And then the site, if you throw it back up, Barrett, for that it's, that it's, over there because it's what a curse forge com they have a whole thing of like you can just install our app that'll then mod the game for you and I did that and click this button
Starting point is 00:17:01 and then I turned on wow and it's like all right control support works now and it had a custom layout and a custom UI for a controller and shit and I put it I was I was like done I was like I'm going to bed and I saw this did it and played for another two hours or whatever and then the next night came back and played more with it and again it was like did you say ding in the all chat
Starting point is 00:17:17 when you level no I didn't have to say ding you want to talk about like you know know the things that impressed me a lot about it. It was like in the starting area. Like at one point, Jen heard me, night one, I'm typing. And she's like, what are you doing? I'm like, oh, it's said that if you have a question,
Starting point is 00:17:32 you can just ask a question. And she's like, I've played thousands of hours. Like, what do you? And like, my question is very specific about, I forget. It's like, oh, it was something new. Like, okay, no, I don't know how to do it. So I put it in and immediately got a response from people who are chilling out there
Starting point is 00:17:44 to answer questions to do this stuff. Like, that's fucking really cool. You know what I mean? Like, it was a trip to go back to it and see it. And again, the controller, not perfect, but it's, you know, way better. I can't, you know, Mike. You fucking know. Right now, Phil is
Starting point is 00:17:57 making them do it. Make it an Xbox version of, wow, make it do. And when they do that, I think, I will give it even more time, I think, to what I'm doing with it. But it was fun. Do we know that? No, no, no, no. I imagine. No, but like, I don't know. I, I think maybe you're feeling
Starting point is 00:18:13 that now because this purchase happened, but this feels like something that we've been thinking was going to happen for the last 15 years or so. Well, now it's in their hands, though, right? Yeah. Now Phil does have the ball in his court. My thing is that this mod, console port from curseforge.com, is so good and so close.
Starting point is 00:18:32 It's like, if you could do this as just a fan and put it up, Xbox has got to be like, ability wheels? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you can do that, then it's got to be. Xbox has got to look at that and be like, come on. Like, look at the success, like, even for Blizzard, look at the success Diablo's having on console. like Diablo 3 and Reaper of Souls and all that for console,
Starting point is 00:18:52 right, took it to another level. And Diablo 4 obviously is so successful. To the point, this is a fun story of when I was there for the Spiritborn demo, right? We get the tour, you get the presentations. We get ushered into the play lab, right? And they sit us all down. And I sit down and it's keyboard and mouse. I'm like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And they're like, all right, we can just start playing. People start playing. I look around. I'm like, I turn to this guy and it's like, am I going to get laughed out of the room for asking for a controller? and he's like, oh, no, man, no, totally. And then every hand, hand, everyone else heard me do it and started asking for control. I'm like, oh, that's a good feeling for me.
Starting point is 00:19:27 That's how Diablo is for so many people now or whatever. It's that for me. Like I enjoy Diablo definitely a lot more on controller because it feels like just an isometric sort of action game. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But yeah, three nice with while, really enjoyed it. But the problem is, and this is a thing I've been saying since SGF, right? My SGF, and again, remember what I said at the beginning, my SGF demo,
Starting point is 00:19:49 for a new world to turn them, right? It was so much fun. And I'm like, oh, man, this Amazon MMO feels so good on controller, on console. I can't wait for this to get there. And it is the talk to the guy. Go kill 30 of those things. Come back, turn it in, do the thing. And like...
Starting point is 00:20:04 Well, some of these wolf's tails, why aren't they drop it? When me and Mike and Washington the squad popped into the hardcore version where it's like, you die and you're dead or whatever, we were like, oh, man, these drop rates are kind of rough. During the beta or during the one it was on just PC? Just like, no, no, we were playing wow. He's talking about wow. Yeah, I don't know, wow.
Starting point is 00:20:24 But it's like even hilarious of that of like, New World Eternaloms drops you after, you know, you shipwreck on this island and you wash up and you do all the thing. Like, oh, this is fucking cool. And I start wow. And it's like, oh, you're on this room. You shipwreck. I'm like, oh, man, they just ripped this straight off.
Starting point is 00:20:38 You know what I mean? Like, okay, or whatever. But it was the idea of like the presentation. And of course, a 2024 video game versus something I'm talking about for 2004. You're talking about a different life. And granted, I know Wow, I was iterated and changed in all this, but it's still, wow. It's still what it was to some degree there. But to the point that I think would have stopped me in the old days, too, like the fan, the art style I really connected with this time for a while,
Starting point is 00:21:02 I liked it. The problem I had with being someone, and this is what I think you'd expect, jumping into a game this old, is it really was cool. For the first character, I did the shipwreck start. Sorry, I don't know the officially terms or whatever. The way you shipwreck and start on the thing and then go. The second one when I rolled a human rogue, I chose their starting area. So I got a little bit more VO in the front,
Starting point is 00:21:24 but I was very quickly on both characters left with like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, I know why as a player I'm playing and I want to ding, I want to do this, but as a character, what are the motivations I'm doing? I didn't feel like there was a backbone story to it
Starting point is 00:21:37 in which what was shocking in a way to me was the idea that like, as everyone knows, back to the like, if Jen was on, she'd talk about wow, with me and DC Universe online, right, like I've talked about that game
Starting point is 00:21:49 for far too long, but even always playing it, I was always like, well, yeah, the VOs kind of suck. And yeah, like, this is like shitty animation, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:58 in my head, I'm like, this is great for what it is. I'm sure wow is so much better. And I jump in on here these wow VOs. I'm like, holy fuck,
Starting point is 00:22:04 it's as bad as DC Universe online. Oh my God. I had this totally pegged wrong that this would be something different. Same thing with animations and things like that, right? And again,
Starting point is 00:22:12 it's an MMO. I get it. I understand the limitations and what it is in an old MMO. but it is that idea of like came in there and it was really eye-opening of like oh this is what this is but also I compared it when I was talking to Jen about it at night because even for her she's like man they've changed this so much since how it was when I first started all my characters had their own individual thing and that and they talked about it but I'm like I'm like you have to I'm
Starting point is 00:22:35 to wait to like level 50 to get a mount or something like that was it 40 or 50 no but like in the early days oh in the early days yes in the in the early days it was the longest grind and it felt so rewarding to like, holy shit, I'm getting my, my big saber-tooth tiger that I can finally like ride around in the country. It was so awesome, dude. Yeah, and this one, you know, doing all that stuff and jumping into it, it was like, okay, cool, I just didn't have the, I'm such a story guy. I just need a little bit of we're going after this thing, but I understand that whatever we were going after in the base game is 19 things removed from what we're actually doing in this game and what, it was a very bizarre thing of, I likened it, you know, to why comic book,
Starting point is 00:23:15 restart their numbers all the time. Because I'm jumping into issue 345, and I'm like, I don't know what the fuck has happened up until this point to get here. And I thought that was probably the hardest part. If I could have gotten in and had a baseline, here's what the story is, here's who you're going after.
Starting point is 00:23:29 This is what we're building to. I think it would have connected a bit more with me. But for where I was, Mike, I was like, okay, cool. I can put this down and move on to other things. Ladies and gentlemen, if you are as fascinated as I am about Greg jumping into Wow in 2024, please feel free to super chat away with your questions and comments
Starting point is 00:23:46 because we're talking about Greg playing PC games and most importantly playing wow in 2024 is wild. Were you fascinated by the Horde or any other alliance characters? You said human rogue. I think for me it's always the excitement of rolling a new character. Who am I going to be? Am I going blood elf again for the 75th time? Am I going to make that torn warrior finally?
Starting point is 00:24:08 Did you, were you going to go human no matter what? Did you have other options? The first one, the hunter I did was a Taylor Swift, of course, but she was a zombie. Oh, yeah. A dead class in there. So I went in there, was happy with how she looked, just wasn't happy with how she played. And another thing I found, it's always interesting and rare, I guess, to come into a genre I don't know well in a game that's so established. I was shocked by how it is a fire hose of powers and moves to start with.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Like, again, I, you know, my, in terms of me rolling new characters over and over again, I would look to Diablo 3. and Diablo 4, right? And Diablo 4, I think, is just such a great job of you level up and you're getting those moves, but it never felt overwhelming. And I think maybe it's the fact, again, that it's, I am, you know, a console controller player that I was so I'm learning, I'm learning how to play with a keyboard in mouse in general, let alone to then also have all these different things that are getting added in and these passives and this thing here, and that's acting.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I'm like, okay, like you got to get the razor mouse with the 20 buttons on the side like I had back in the day. I had that at IGN. I remember. I wonder how much of that is just it being the brand new version of wild. Because I'm not, that does not sound familiar to me at all, Mike. Like being kind of overwhelmed at the beginning. I remember when we did our wow classic sort of hardcore run,
Starting point is 00:25:24 it was as bare bones as it could possibly be, right? You would get like two abilities at the start if that. And you would just kind of use those for the next couple hours or so. I'm so fascinated by this because I, you know, it's one thing that I can relate to this really, really well and how much wow was a big part of my life. But current modern wow, I have like really no knowledge of. Have you played like the newest version of Wildman? I'll jump back in whenever there's an expansion and then I'll get overthrown by there's so much.
Starting point is 00:25:56 But it's so cool to see the new areas. They give you the new level updates. That's as much as I'll go for. And the art updates are awesome as well. Yeah. Man. And those story cutscenes too, the cinematics, Greg. When you jump in, beautiful stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:08 But yeah, every expansion I'll buy and come back to. I'm excited for this just to see it, play it for a couple of weeks and then give up on it, just because I'm not as hardcore as I used to be with that because it used to be my life. It was me and my little brother's life in 2004. I was going to say, how many hours do you think you put into, wow? Hundreds. Yeah. I mean, a lifetime, right?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Like 2004 to 2008, me and my little brother, I don't think you get a phone call in at our house because we were sucking up the landline internet. It was, grandma thought we were all dead. It was so cool to every day come home from school. We would, mom bought us this 100 foot landline that would go all the way up to the... Crammel thought we were down. All the way up to the attic where mom's computer was
Starting point is 00:26:46 down into the main room with the phone. And we'd plug that in and me and Jackson would sit there for hours over each other's shoulders, just looking as we ran around as night elves running through the glades, like just getting lost. It was a special time. And still to this day, I'll jump in and be... I'll see my old characters and smile.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Like, you said, it's pretty wild, as Jen, I'm sure told you, to see the new look of it all, right? It used to be so different. awesome to jump back in. It's a fun time. Yeah, it was like 06 to maybe 2010 was just constantly in that world,
Starting point is 00:27:18 cutting class early, not wanting to be in school and just like only wanting to play wow. And see, like, that's again from the book and the stories of the other side of that. I am so sad I missed that. I wish I had been more akin or open or paying attention.
Starting point is 00:27:34 It's one of those like, at the time, I know it sounds so silly but like to be reading eGM and stuff eGM was always more console focused it really they did PC stuff I'm not but there there was PC gamer magazine right that was like really in the weeds with that shit so I think I was just so my eyes were on the consoles I owned that for some reason that was you don't know and again what an MMO actually is and where the internet was and yada yada there's all these excuses but even at IGN I wish I would have paid more attention and been like oh I should really get into that I should really try that for me it's really cool because I grew
Starting point is 00:28:08 up playing Warcraft 3 as well with my little brother, where it was that RTSP PVP action. And then the idea of when Wow came out, we were all like, oh my God, I can be this character and I can role play as this world. It was really, really fun. They had a, thank you, Big Nick. They got the PVP capture the flag. I'll remember countless hours jumping into PVP that wasn't the team arena, but they had capture the flag and being able to run across the map and thinking I was stealthy,
Starting point is 00:28:35 grab the flag and immediately die, have to go back to the grave, graveyard, respawn, do it all over again. Wow has everything. Wow is a really special one. So I'm glad they jumped in. And yeah, for the Horde, always. I'm always going to be a Horde guy. There was nothing more thrilling back than day for like somebody who never really had an
Starting point is 00:28:52 online experience like this. And we would be in Stormwind. And maybe it's my first like, I don't know, 10 hours into the game. And then suddenly the Horde would like raid Stormwind. And all of these other online. characters that weren't alliance were essentially raiding, you're trying to do an insurrection.
Starting point is 00:29:14 They were raiding the Capitol. They were raiding Stormwind. And to see all of these Ford characters running in and just like all of the MPCs trying to like defend the city and all of like the other high level alliance players trying to defend the city, it was so formative
Starting point is 00:29:30 for me for somebody who had who had just played like Halo online and other multiplayer call of duty or whatever. So to see something like that, was so mind-blowing to me, flying over the burning steps on the Griffin and like, you know, doing the... Like, traveling for one spot to the other
Starting point is 00:29:46 and looking down and seeing people fighting dragons and being like, holy shit, those are real people. That's not... One day, I'm gonna go there. Stuff. Yeah, I'm gonna be the dude. It was just, like, massive for me. Through the looking glass thing of reading the book, and like they talk about, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:01 when the early days, right, the first big expansion, like, put... Like, the apocalypse was happening, and the map got all torn up, and people were blown away. that it was happening and some fans were mad that it was happening but they thought it was crazy and then it was like i read that and then like two weeks later i'm talking to jen and she's telling me her story of that before i even mentioned it where she's just like oh you don't understand one time this happened it was like this
Starting point is 00:30:19 and then we all you know the alliance and the horde had to band together to fight this thing yeah it sounds so fucking cool and it's like that is such a lightning in a bottle kind of moment right where it's like now we're spoiled the internet is ubiquitous multiplayer is everywhere we are that pane of glass i always talk about where it's your attention and it's shattered. Like you're never going to have that swell of players playing. And that's not 100% true as we see someone who people playing Blackmouth Woo Kong right now. But you know what I mean in terms of playing this thing and then having that experience only in the game and it's really not even happening outside.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It's such a crazy snapshot that I'm so bummed I missed. Begg you and Barron's chat back in the day would be insane. Barron's chat was well known for just insane chat all the time going off on that. And every time you'd walk into the Barron area, I would say, welcome to Barron's chat. And all of a sudden, you just get the most insane chat from people writing somebody. You've got to get out of your mom's basement for sure. But the best, I mean, I've seen memes lately of it.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It's like when you and your friend would start as two different races, and then you'd finally find each other after hours of like, oh, I chose Night Elf. Well, I'm an elf or I'm a dwarf. And it's like, how do I get to you? And then you have to figure out how to get to each other. And it would take hours. And it's like, oh, it was the coolest.
Starting point is 00:31:35 experience around. I'm so glad you jumped in, Greg. Maybe we can play more. I like that. I would like to see the controller mod in action. Oh yeah, for sure. Because as someone who played a lot of Elder Scrolls online, I thought they did a fantastic job with the controller support. And I was like, why aren't they doing that for wow? Where's the love? And yeah, Greg, I'm right there with you. I hope that Phil is speaking with that team of, hey, how do we do this? Because this is a massive franchise going on 20 plus years now of like, how do we get this on the console. There are so many players that would jump
Starting point is 00:32:05 into this because when I was a console only player when I moved on from the PC, it was like, I want that MMO experience and I've gotten that with Neverwinter, Tara's come, we've seen of course, Elder Scrolls online and more. It's like, oh, this should be wow, wow is the juggernaut. What are we missing here?
Starting point is 00:32:21 I really do think that it will be a I do think it'll happen. Do we know it's happening? No. I think it will because I think that's such an added value to Game Pass. It's such a great headline. And I think you'd see so many people come to it for the first time, but then also so many people,
Starting point is 00:32:37 I'll roll a new character, I'll come back, I'll do this, and then you have that thing of, like, what Jen was experiencing playing, but like, this is completely different. I don't even know what's going on. And then also the memory and the nostalgia
Starting point is 00:32:47 and what you've missed before, and I imagine a more streamlined, here's how you start, you know, this and go with consoles. I hope for that and more. Of course, let's jump in and say thank you to all of those sponsors that we have out there, supporting us here at Kind of Funny.
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Starting point is 00:35:20 We have more Greg vacation stories and more Greg on PC, but I wanted to jump into the super chats who are currently watching live on YouTube and those watching live on Twitch can get involved. And so we got a couple of fun ones. Of course, Ryan Mars writes out to me and says, Mike, yesterday, I said, you looked nothing like I thought you would when I replied, I have two children. I'm an overweight father. It's okay, Ryan. Ryan said, hey, Mike, you're looking all right. Thank you, Ryan. I appreciate you. See, I told you. I don't know. I don't know. I'm necessarily a bad thing. I see, Ryan. I love you. DJ Kenta writes in and says, Ray Chase, the voice of Cyclops from X-Men 97 and Noctus from Final Fantasy 15 is the narrator for Play Nice, according to Audible, where you can pre-order it right now. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. S. Bubby J. J. Jubby. Bobby Jubby? Bobby Jubby, I think. Bubby Jubby.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Whatever you want. Whatever you want. People joked about Wow taking over lives, but it was real. My day to day was go to class, hop on Wow, and when I got home, raid till 2 a.m., rinse and repeats. That's how it went. It was a great time. It was come home from school. Never do any homework, just play wow.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Any sort of video games, that was my life. So I feel that. I'll never forget. There was one day where we would all take our, I would take my Dell laptop to my friend, CB's house and our other friends would take their desktops over and do like, kind of like little land parties. We'd have either like the World of Warcraft South Park episode on or we would just
Starting point is 00:36:51 have Lord of the Rings on, just kind of playing in the background, getting us in the mood. And it was me and my friend, a friend of mine, Victor, who wasn't really like, a close friend, but he played Wow. Yeah, yeah. And all of our friends had left their house. Like, it was their house, and they left me and Victor they're playing World of Warcraft.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And they left to go like to some hangout and they're going to come back and play more wow. And they're like, oh, dude, we were there. And they were like, wait, who's at your house? And they're like, Andy and Victor, and they're like, why are they hanging out? It's like, it's a World of Warcraft, man. Like, if people are just hanging out.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Like, even if you're not close friends, you're in the world together. Wow brings you together. I'll never forget being 18 and my first, you know, job away from home and all that. And meeting the security guard Tom. Tom was so good to me because Tom found out I was a gamer and knew that I loved Wow. And Tom was an older gentleman who played a lot of Wow. And his family, he actually met his wife through Wow, had a kid. The kid was probably my age.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And the three of them were deep into Wow all the time. Every night they would play as a family. And they invited me to Family Game Night where you could tell that Mike was a casual wow player when I saw all of them the best gear they were raiding they knew everything and man Tom and his family took great care of me and then Tom's wife passed away
Starting point is 00:38:10 and you can tell it's like wow was over there and it was they never came back and it was so sad but I'll never forget the times I got to spend with that family that was so good at me one of the I think sweet things just to piggyback off of this as an outsider that I've always known but then it was like really fun to see this is that
Starting point is 00:38:25 when Jen's wow obsession ended because her video game career, you know, took off and she had to go do other things, right? She passed her wow account to her dad. And her dad, he's too sickly to play right now, but had played for so long and raided and done the whole thing. And he would just be sitting there. And so like, she logged back in to do this. And it was so crazy for her to be like, oh my God, these are my dad's characters and these are my character. You know what I mean? I think you might have deleted somebody to make space. It was like, cool. It was one of the first times that I experienced the online.
Starting point is 00:38:59 friendship of somebody that was in our guild and then becoming friends with them like on back in the day, I guess on like Facebook, the early days of Facebook and experiencing a death of somebody you knew online. Like it was like one of those like maybe at four years after we played wow. Like I wasn't playing anymore and I didn't really talk to these people. But I saw like a post from you know, Pally Pro has, I was like, oh my God, that's so sad. I was like, wow, I have. haven't experienced this in gaming yet where it's an online friend. You always see those memes that go popular of like the last time somebody logs in or whatever. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:39 It was like, holy shit. This is like, this is like hidden in a way I wasn't expecting it to for somebody that you would like do dungeons with all the time. It was really cool. Really, really weird. Stockdale just gave us a super chat. Didn't write anything. So thank you, Dale.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And then CJ Splits on, write some of our final super chat before we move on and says, Mike, can you still hit a box on the snow bike? And blessing, I'm still happy to report that I can smash a good nose grind on a box anytime. What does that mean? On a box?
Starting point is 00:40:05 It's a whole thing. I'll tell you all about it. Can I give you one in here? You missed that I do want to talk about. Oh, tell me. Nathan Payson gave a super chat and said, I've been playing wild for four years. And the thing I wish is modern press paid more attention to the content cadence, including cool experimental modes.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I like that. I think that's an interesting topic, right? Because I think, again, the book, my life, the timelines of like when we start talking about like, mists of Pandaria in here. I'm like, shit, I remember like that being a pandas in, bro. I remember that was a thing
Starting point is 00:40:35 that I made fun of a lot. Game Scoop or whatever. But it's that idea of like, I can't fathom trying to cover wow in a modern context. And I think you can expand that out and you, I know so many people were talking to me about Final Fantasy
Starting point is 00:40:51 14 when I was talking about this. Oh, you should play that. And it's like, even Diablo, I guess, doesn't count. But like, these games that are ongoing games that go on for so long. Fortnite, I guess is a better example, where it's like, it is so hard to get eyeballs on an ongoing game,
Starting point is 00:41:08 the longer it goes. Where you have a dedicated audience and an audience that knows it so fucking well that I don't think there's a way for a, this isn't a general assignment video game reporter at IGN GameSpot, you name it. I don't think there's a way for them to jump in and deliver the news in a meaningful way
Starting point is 00:41:28 because the people who care about that news are already getting it from their content creators, the actual blog itself, in-game, you know what I mean, whatever it is? Like, I'm that way for Diablo, where I will go read the developer notes. I will go read the actual entire post. So at best, an IGN GameSpot mainstream article
Starting point is 00:41:45 would signal, oh, I didn't see that yet, but I don't think you'd click on that. You'd go over to the other thing to do it. You have your dedicated news areas, like the people that only specialize in, wow, those niche spots. This is, you know, when I was at IGN, a good analog to this was always Minecraft. Remember Minecraft at the time, biggest game
Starting point is 00:42:01 in the world at one point. And it was pair in these meetings every six months would be like, we have to figure out how to cover Minecraft, we have to figure out. And this is before Wikis, which really would be the way to figure all that stuff, how to do it. But it would be the idea of like, how do we get the people who are playing those games to come here?
Starting point is 00:42:17 And the answer was Wikis, right? But it's the idea here of like, you can sit there and say that's really cool, but you know, look at DC Universe Online, which I'm not saying is a make a popular game. It has been going for more than a decade now. It's episode, whatever, 39 or whatever. It's like, you can put that up,
Starting point is 00:42:32 but that's not going to get a general person to go look at it, and it's not going to get the hardcore DC person to go look at it. Yeah. Greg, you've been playing more PC games. Do you want to tell me about this? I sure have, of course. So again, you know, Andy tried to blow up my spot. I like to tell any things in confidence, and he likes to try to make me out to be the villain.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Wow, Andy. But weeks ago, I was on Steam, and I sent Andy a little message that said, This seems pretty cool, huh? And of course, he screenshots it, puts it on blast. I did not deny it was me. Always putting us on blast. I got a reputation to uphold out here.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But no, with this trip coming up to Canada in the two weeks off, I was like, what do I want to play on this trip? And I jumped around to a million different things, but what I really came back to was steam deck of like, okay, cool. Like, I have a steam deck. I've enjoyed my steam deck, but I don't play it like a lot of people play their steam deck. If I'm getting on the plane, it's usually I'm tossing the switch and I'm not bringing the steam deck. So this time around I was like, well, nothing's hitting on Switch. I need to investigate Steam Deck. And it was the one where I think I also tweeted about this in a very Greg way of like,
Starting point is 00:43:36 I finally docked it. Like I bought the Steam Deck, you know, whenever I could finally get it delivered, got it. I docked it once and it was a huge like at the time hassle. It didn't Bluetooth Connect ride. It didn't display correct. And I was just like, never doing this again. Thank you. It's going to be my handheld.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Like I play my Switch handheld primarily, right? but even then didn't play a lot. Reviewed Calt-Lam via Steam Deck, but when I wanted to play it on the big screen, I put the tower to the big screen and played over there. So now you jump ahead, however many years it's been since that bad initial experience,
Starting point is 00:44:08 plugged in the Steam Deck, and I was like, oh, holy shit. Like, it actually read right, it actually did HDR. I want to thank you for tweeting that out, Greg, because I always have a problem having my Steam Deck set up at, like, my PC station, but I'd never thought to, like,
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'd moved my Steam Deck to, like, the kind of entertainment center just to make room and shit and actually like tried that out because of your tweet and I was like oh shit and that's how I played thank goodness you're here. Yeah right I was super super impressed with it it was your second eye opening moment because the first
Starting point is 00:44:36 one was maybe the first week you had your steam deck and you came into work and maybe you told me just like one-on-one you're like this steam cloud saves are pretty cool I was like here we go. Yeah pretty sweet. You know with the PlayStation
Starting point is 00:44:51 I have to fucking sink them. It doesn't matter. Yeah, but then it got it on the screen, used the controller, got into that. So I loaded it up with a bunch of different games. So it's more about the fact that I think I've, I know how stupid this all sounds. And again, we're putting the characters aside.
Starting point is 00:45:07 We're just here being human beings who play video games, bless, all right? Yeah. Put the character down. But it was the idea of like, oh, I think this is a turning point. I'm using my Steam Deck a lot more and getting out and wanting to play that way.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Because again, in the past when I had it, it's weird because usually we get codes for review and they're not Steam Deck verified yet so it's a whole hull of blue and blah blah long story short I was really impressed with my Steam Deck to the point I'm like I don't want to fucking buy an LOD. God damn man I do want to buy it but I can't buy an OLED right now I don't want it you know what I mean let's I need to commit to it and actually be in it
Starting point is 00:45:37 We're deep enough to wait for another one I would say yeah into the other title however though Steam Deck was impressive really had a great time with it loaded it up with games the game I played through that week of being up in Quebec and in the lakeside cabin was Dungeons of Hinterberg This is one I'm curious about Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:55 Because like I think What is a few weeks ago That you put up the Trello thing Of like who wants codes And I had missed it I think And then you went out of town And I was like Oh fuck he's gone for two weeks
Starting point is 00:46:03 I'm gonna just wait for him to get back Heartbreaking I think it was way more than a few weeks ago Was it? Because this is one that like I think launched the beginning of June Or something like that Like it was I had seen this game
Starting point is 00:46:13 I had seen this game I should say At ID at Xbox when we They were here for GDC We went through And it was one of those I looked at a distance to and I was like, oh, it doesn't really seem like my jam or whatever. But then I was looking for something to play.
Starting point is 00:46:25 What do I want to play? This has been out. Dungeons of Hintyberg has been out for a while. It is Xbox Game Pass. I downloaded it to my Xbox there because I was like, well, let's just try it and see what's up. And immediately I was like, oh shit, this is such a great game. Because it is, hey, you are this burned out legal assistant and you go on vacation, which is pretty, you know, great for me about to go on a vacation.
Starting point is 00:46:48 and the vacation here is that 10 years ago in this you know Alp like town up in the mountains all these different portals to dungeons opened up and rather than be scared by it they turned it into a tourist attraction so people come to this tourist town they go into these dungeons they fight these monsters they get loot they do it
Starting point is 00:47:06 it's got it's very moonlighter coded which was a game you know how much I adore not in terms of gameplay but in terms of hey go into this weird world you know do these things and come with it. The idea here is that you do that. There's a whole bunch of different worlds. There's a whole bunch of different dungeons. Again, since it's tourist, it's very much like bunny slopes where
Starting point is 00:47:27 they have like ratings on the dungeon on the outside of like if you're ready for that. There's this, as you saw it earlier, there's a persona like, not very in-depth like persona or long as a persona relationship system where you are earning stars with the people you choose to spend your nights with, which then give you perks, which can be more magic, more hearts, more whatever, you know, these abilities to go out to it. It's funny, it's cute, great art style. The action is very third-person action, right? Where it is, you know, you're using your sword, you're slashing, you're dodging,
Starting point is 00:48:00 your dodge rolling around them, lock on if you want to. Every one of the different dungeon locales you go to, not the dungeons themselves, but like the worlds or the parts of the town they're in have their own magic. So when you go there, you turn it on for the first time and then you have two magic abilities that are more, it's dungeons and of course for going through and killing these enemies or whatever, but it's also dungeons very much like, it's giving
Starting point is 00:48:22 you that hit of Zelda with the shrines where you go in and you have these magic abilities that you can use offensively but usually they're like, okay, cool. These things are spinning counterclockwise. I have to stop that one but get it over there to line up with this so that when I get on it, I can get over to that one
Starting point is 00:48:39 and get on that one and you have to figure it out using these different platforms and like weight pedals. That's just one example. there's you know tornadoes you can ride and things like that or whatever I did not roll credits on it but I've been enjoying it I think it'll be when I come back to here and there or whatever but it was like very funny humorous game no VO great art style the combat is I'm playing on normal so it's not hard but it's fun to get through and go through and do this the puzzles I thought are giving me like ah got it you know what I mean on the next thing on to the next thing any of that
Starting point is 00:49:10 entice you bless all of it does yeah the most thing is yeah the more I think it was it actually might have been when I was at Evo or something. I remember just being away and I had gotten back or there was something where I was like oh snap I missed the call for Dungeons of Hinnerberg codes but yeah I've been like keeping my eye on it I think it's since a round summer game fest and now the art style looks cool uh Greg had talked about a little bit about like the persona like stuff and that was the thing that really brought me in where I was like oh I like games that do have that weird loop of you're doing dungeon stuff but then you come out and you do social stuff and you hang out with people one of the things that's I think so cool about it again I love a game
Starting point is 00:49:40 that commits to its setting right and so you are on vacation here you are trying to unwind. So there are things of like, you know, you go to this new area that'll have these new dungeon stuff, but you'll find these relaxation points where it's like, do you want to just spend your afternoon sitting on this bench taking in the view? It'll burn the afternoon, but it'll fill your relaxation meter and it'll, you know, do this kind of, it's like there's benefits to just chilling out. And like the same thing with the relationship status. Again, the game isn't trying to, oh, well, who are you going to see? What would it, would something happen if you went with this person. Like you have in your journal, like all the different characters, some of which
Starting point is 00:50:18 you haven't met yet, they'll be great out. But it'll tell you what hanging out with them would get the next level to, to give you. So it's like if you are having a hard time, like I'm running out of magic. I'm running out of stamina. I want to be able to dodge more. You can see it, oh, if I hung out with them tonight, I would get a plus dodge. So I should go do that. Let me hang out with Benny over there. Yeah. Benin's always been a extra attack damage. Yeah. James Collier writes in with the $5 super Chet says bless, Dungeons might be a nice game for you to get through with your funk right now that you're having. We'll see, yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah, yeah. I thought of you as well for that one. That's good. How did you, we had a great day yesterday playing Wukong. How do you, how did you feel before that session and after that session? I mean, I think I felt around the same, right? Like, I mean, in our review, we talked about how, like, I think we're both around in the same place as far as how much we like the game. but Mike had asked like
Starting point is 00:51:10 am I going to go back and play more Black Myth and I'm kind of like I think eventually but I don't know if I'm craving it right now in the moment to go back and just finish it all in one go right now and even after our session we had gotten past that boss that I was kind of stuck on. I'm still in the same place where I, what I liked about our time yesterday
Starting point is 00:51:26 is you kind of showed me some of the side stuff and how like weird it can be right of like oh just talk to this MPC and they'll send you on a weird quest that almost viewers more souls like in how non-up it is, right? You have to, like, talk to them, and then you'll find a thing for him, bring it back, and then fall into a thing, and then you'll get access to a whole new area
Starting point is 00:51:45 that you, like, would not have discovered otherwise that is super missable. And then, like, the thing I really liked, actually, is one of the things you showed me affected how the boss fight goes, right? Like, that was such a cool concept for me, but also at the same time, I'm, like, finishing it. I'm like, it still has the same combat system, still has some of the same stuff where I'm like, I don't know if I'm craving it right now in this moment. I could see Dungeons of Hinnerberg. possibly hitting, but I'm also in this place now where I'm like waiting for Astrobat to get here. I feel like Astrobat is going to be the key to happiness for all. It's going to be
Starting point is 00:52:18 it's going to be a good time. It is. I'm pretty excited about that. Greg Miller, you also have some mobile games here and you and I spoke about mobile games. Well, yesterday we were talking about it and I just really haven't jumped onto my phone to ever play games. I've played some Harstown, some Marvel rivals, or not Marvel rivals, Marvel whatever. Snap. Yeah, snap. But What are you playing over there? So, yeah, Bears tossed up my tweet here as I set off to go on vacation again, where I need a new mobile game. And I called out that I don't need Pokemon Go or Monster Hunter now because I play those already. I've been looking for something to be stationary with.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I, you know, Monster Hunter and Pokemon are great. I enjoy them quite a bit. It was the idea, though, though, those are meant to be walking around. Okay. And this tweet literally came from the playground. Sodu is great. That's great. That's a good joke.
Starting point is 00:53:08 It was on the playground where I'm just sitting while Benny plays in the sand with his friends, right? So it's like, I can't really move around to do stuff. So I got a lot of good recommendations. I downloaded a lot of stuff. The only one that was new that really clicked with me, and it even clicked is going too far, I think. But Invincible Guardians of the Globe, if you remember when they, oh, right. Hey, Invincible's first games out. And it was, it's this weird team builder auto battler.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And I was like, oh, okay. People had recommended it enough in my things knowing who I am that I jumped in. And, you know, you build your team, but it's one of those, do it at 2x speed to simulate all the stuff. Do I have the points to beat these people? I'm going to do the thing. And it's giving you narrative. It was like, I played it for a day,
Starting point is 00:53:47 screwing around with it, and I was fine. I was like, all right, I'm, this isn't what I'm looking for. I should have told you about Loop Hero. No. Loop here on mobile. Uh-oh. Maybe hold on. I might be considerant.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Now, avoid tyrant. I got total time. There's an octopath on mobile that I totally didn't know about, that I downloaded, but it was trying to be two story-dry. been at the start and I'm like, I don't have time for this. I'm just trying to get into some action or whatever. I download a Strike Force and tried that. That wasn't what Marvel Strike Force wasn't looking for that. And so what I ended up doing, of course, is just sticking with Monster Hunter now. So if you remember right before I left, Monster Hunter now announced they were doing this Mr. Beast
Starting point is 00:54:25 collaboration with the sword and shield that I downloaded on the show, which was me opening Monster Hunter now for the first time in a long time or whatever. And then as a joke, I started off trying to get all that stuff. And then I got re-addicted to it. Full disclosure, of course, Monster Hunter now sponsored the shows while I was gone. After the Mr. Beast thing where I organically opened it, but they did sponsor kind of funny. So I want to make sure you know, you don't believe me, don't believe me, whatever you want on that, but it's out there.
Starting point is 00:54:48 You're level 30 whatever for a reason. I'm level 38. Yeah, my battle past here is 39 now. It's, it got its hooks back in me. Monster Hunter now is a great time waster of a game. In the same way, I think Pokemon is a great time waste of the game, right? Like, what are you doing? In Pokemon, you're throwing the ball.
Starting point is 00:55:06 And this one, you're just tapping monsters, killing them, getting their stuff, getting better gear. You know, it's great of giving you the daily quests, the bigger quests, the special quest to send you off on that. They're doing a whole thing now that this is one of the things we had. I demoed at SGF because I will always take the monster hunter and hour appointment where they're doing dimensional links now. Because before it was, if you wanted to fight with other players, you had to be around each other. Now there's special monsters that you can go into and then they just auto-populate from other people around the globe trying to do it or whatever. So that's been a fun way to get in there Find new monsters
Starting point is 00:55:37 Fight monsters at a higher level Than I probably should be able to beat on my own And go off and do it But yeah I've been grinding it really hard While I was up there Where it was like the walk to the beach with Ben Click click click click click click do the thing You know get there hang out
Starting point is 00:55:50 Then he needed something from the house Back to the house doing that And then yeah wandering around And it's This is how Close I am to the full addiction In the way Tim is addicted to Pokemon Go Is that some of the quests are like you know
Starting point is 00:56:04 okay, well, you got to beat this very specific monster, right, that'll only do it in the spawn in the swamp or the desert or whatever it is, right? And it'd be that thing where I'm like, okay, cool. And they're like... At a flight of the Mojave Desert, then. I open it up on my phone and it's like, okay, cool. The monster is right now the monster I need three blocks over and two blocks down. So it's like, do I go and take...
Starting point is 00:56:24 I'm like, no, I will not... I'm not taking a walk right now. I'm not telling my family I'll be back in a second. But did I say, Ben, we should go to a playground at one point? Yes, specifically to get to them. that it's going to get some cigarettes. It's like that. That's how they incorporate the walking to it is.
Starting point is 00:56:37 It's just like old school Pokemon go where you would see it down on your little AR map and you would go chase it there. 100%. Yeah. Interesting. So like yeah, you can see. I got mine open right and so that you know, the other thing that is good about it like again, the other thing is good about it
Starting point is 00:56:51 is the cycle. So like right now we're actually in between it looks like a grassland, the swamp and the grassland or whatever. Like that'll change. Over time, the terrain changes. So you could if you couldn't go to a million places or walk around, it'll change over time.
Starting point is 00:57:07 So you don't have to worry about always moving or whatever. But yeah, you can get really out with the map and then you see all the different points. The other thing, too, is like it's gathering points like Pocostops of go there and you get stuff. So like a lot of times you're daily or a quest, for the bigger quest because it'll be a quest chain, right? It'll be,
Starting point is 00:57:23 oh, well, you know, you need to hit up eight gathering points or whatever. So they want you walking around to do that. They want you walking around to find different monsters and do that. You know, you have it where if you turn adventure sync on, which I do. You know, it'll auto, when you're going, it'll paintball
Starting point is 00:57:37 the monsters you pass so that you could fight them whenever you want. So rather than have to do that, so like if I look at my paintballs right now, my palico's got a great, uh, jaguress, a great Giros and a puky-poogie ready to go if I wanted to go fight those right now. They have different rankings in terms of stars, which what rewards they'd give me.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Then of course you get into your material or your armor and your weapons, right? And you're looking at rarities there as well where you go and level them up and then you overgrade them to have the next thing to get stronger to get fighter, you know, go fight everything. Do you need the game to be, do you need any of these recommendations to be portrait mode only? I prefer that, but no.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Right, again, with Monster Hunter, why it works, right? It's like, if I wanted to go in right now and I want to fight this great Jaggerus right there, solo hunt, begin, right? And while I talk to you, I can just tap. That's all you do is just tap. Well, I mean, like you, I'm moving as well. When I see him glow red, I should be moving, but I'm just so overpowered with this Mr. Beast epic sword I got now, man.
Starting point is 00:58:31 You kidding? I finished the quest, by the. the way. The whole Mr. Beast Quest done. I got everything I need from that. He got it. Super Strong Sword and he's dead, right? So it's like, I can still carry a conversation. Okay. I'm looking for something like that. Let's jump into some more super chats as we continue this show. Nathan
Starting point is 00:58:45 writes back to you, Greg, and says, totally get that. But I'm more meant that they recently redid content cadence to an eight-week patch cadence that is way better than most recent games as a service. I'm about World War. Yeah, I know. I caught
Starting point is 00:59:01 up when he got into it. I hear you. I think, and I bet there's probably an article about that on IGN or whatever when they announced they were doing that and then it's that thing of like I just don't think I think it's the same thing with destiny too you're not wrong Nathan I wish there was a world where you could do that but I think even when we look at and I'm a bit out of school on this but when Michael Hymn was at fandom right they hired him just to cover a Final Fantasy 14 yeah by yeah fan bite thank you so much and then of course they were like all right this isn't working or I don't know if it wasn't working he got laid off from there right yeah okay yeah I'm not I need Michael Himes's
Starting point is 00:59:33 biographer. He's had an idea. He's all about it. He's done fine. He's landed on his feet. Very smart guy. Thank God. We love you, Michael.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Yeah, I need him for rent. DJ. We're going to find you a dog. DJ Kent to write him with a $5 super chat and says, I was inspired by Bob Wolf and got a couple 8-bit dough arcade sticks, a monitor, and boom instant home arcade set up. Highly recommend. Oh, yeah. I love Bob Wolf.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Bob Wolf is the best. Shout to Bob Wolf. a lot of gear that DJ Kento just got, which is cool. Nice and crispy writes in and says Windows, Windows boot on your deck equals Wow on Steam Deck. Andy, is that true? Can I get Wow on my Steam Deck if we do that? You don't need Andy, I can tell you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:17 A lot of people were telling me to do that as well, but it was that thing where it's like, you can buy an Aces route. Yeah. I don't know if I like Wow that much to do that. And I was also like, I don't know how, like, how are we running Curse Forge on this thing? Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:28 Again, I got it on the TV. I haven't got hooked up with the keyboard in the mouth. there. I did that once for something. I was like, speaking to the Steam deck, I got a flight, a long flight coming up, and I'm trying to figure out what my Steam deck game is going to be. Because right now in my mind I have, I think I'm going to commit to Prince of Persia of the last crown because it just came out on Steam. That's good. That's good. But like in talking about, just ended there. Yeah. That's it. Because we're talking about Dungeons in Hinderberg, too. Like one of the reasons why I wanted the code is because it is on Game Pass. I could play there,
Starting point is 01:00:56 but I want the Steam Deck version so I can play it on a play. I think especially, and I've only played like, what, I did 30 or 40 minutes of Prince of Prisia. Like, you know, know to compare to um tales of zau i would say there's such different experiences that they compliment each other where like again dungeons is about like it's about being on vacation like she starts her day little down there having a cup of coffee with her friend right like it's like that vibe of like it feels stupid but it's how i feel when i look at it it feels like walking around on a sunday in autumn you know what i mean where you're not really doing anything but you could do something but you could just read the book in the park if you want like that's how dungeons vibe is where
Starting point is 01:01:32 Prince is going to be the precise platforming doing the thing. Have you thought about trying like a dragon infinite wealth? I tried it when it could be a sweet steam deck. When we got codes in the beginning of the year, I played, I think, approximately like 12 hours. It's always the story with you and me less. There's all, you all play those first 10 hours and then something else would come out. I think I would commit to playing more persona before I played more like a dragon. I still need to finish that game.
Starting point is 01:01:59 You're so close. You're so close, plus. but here's another could I sell you on maybe maybe a little bit of nine souls? Oh nine souls very good see I feel like I only has I mean that is a good way to sell it to me I only have space my heart for either this or Prince of Persia
Starting point is 01:02:15 lost crown at a time I don't know if I could balance both of these that's fair you're still in the middle of Prince of Persia I'm still I'm in the beginning of Prince Perza I know okay Fair two more super chats to round this out SD Turtle writes in says Check out Wuthering Waves I don't like mobile games, but this is a 10 out of 10 game.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Same account can be used on PC mobile and soon, PS5, action RPG, open world. It's like a Genshin. Yeah, I would you just say I looked it up. It looks like you, bless. This looks like, I, I, a lot of people have brought up weathering waves, but I always have to come back with the fact that, like,
Starting point is 01:02:48 I had to get myself off of Genshin. Like, I'm trying to get off. Yeah, like, I don't know if that kind of game is going to do it as much for me, but maybe I'll look into it. Enough people have talked about it, that makes me curious. lust for chaos right in and says it's like look I've worked myself off of cocaine but you should try out heroin but I'm trying to escape this lust for chaos writes in and says I remember when Greg and Kevin got into sweater yeah one of my characters is still part of the blue milk mommy's guild yeah honestly that was in a part of it too where like I was in wow and it was like it's the classic thing whenever I go to a game that I'm having enough fun with I'm like yeah why don't I just go back to sweater why don't you know what I mean why don't I bam and now that was another one though where we the way we the way we we played it. I was like, what am I doing? I'm just evil. I was just being evil. I don't even know what I'm collecting anymore. Let's finish today's games cast with Greg Platinuming Diablo.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Give me the rundown. You say Diablo is breaking me, but the breaking back and platinuming. Tell me all about this. So yeah, this is a thing I wrote to bless when I think I was on vacation still about this, but it was like I went around where I had wanted to platinum Diablo before the new season started. started right as I went on vacation. And, you know, little things happened here and there and other things to play, and it just didn't happen, which sucked. And it was, I was in this lurch of, I needed to get my soft core character to 100, and I needed to beat Uber Lilith, both of which I think, the Uber Lilith thing, people are like, I can't believe you did.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I'm like, I laid on the ground dead and Lucid Dream beat them for me. Like, this isn't something I did, but it was fine. The 100 thing, though, I was struggling with because I, I, you know, I was. for the first time, it was that typical thing where the first time Diablo wasn't fun. I would say when I hit level 70, it became like,
Starting point is 01:04:38 oh, fuck, how much more to get to 100? You know what I mean? Like, this is just not what I do in terms of, I get every character to 100. I play and I enjoy and I do the,
Starting point is 01:04:46 I'm just in the season, but it was like, this one was like, fuck, I had already done, I maxed out the battle pass, I had done all the things. It was get to 100 now
Starting point is 01:04:53 with the actual character. My hope was to do it during the last season because there were so many people playing when the season is over. My character girlfriend is the seasonal realm to the eternal realm, which I thought would cut me down in this. And so then it was just like... Is that like heaven? No, it's just the one, there's two different realms where you seasonally
Starting point is 01:05:08 rolling new stuff. It's a funny joke. I didn't really help you on them. I'm sorry. Okay. Anyways, though. Thanks a while to get back. I know, right? I feel like, I gotta get this ring rust off. The long story short is it was taking me a very long time to grind her up. And it would I was playing, you know, with our friend Zanf. That was helpful at times. It was this, that, the other. And then it was finally like the new. season also introduced this new thing. There was a lot of grinding in there that I wasn't
Starting point is 01:05:33 enjoying mainly because I think I was doing it solo. When I got some other friends, including Rod Ferguson, to pop in and help me and we were running the new season, the, I forget what they're called, in the new season, the dung, the roguelike mode that I'm blanking on the name of right now. When I was running that with people, I was like, okay, now I got it and I got the lust back and I was like, I got this, I got this, and I finally did it. But there was a moment there where I'm like, ah, it's that part of not every platinum journey, but many platinum journeys were like, why am I doing this?
Starting point is 01:06:03 Like, it's like, I got an hour off, you know, bends asleep and I go downstairs and I'm like, I guess I'm going to go do this. And sometimes it was going so slow. I'm like, I'm going to get maybe half a bar filled in. I'm not actually going to hit the next, you know, level of the number I was on and stuff. But again, with some potions and some friends
Starting point is 01:06:19 and the new seasonal stuff they're doing that was there. I got through it. I'm okay. I'm ready for Spiritborn. Yeah. You get that PS4 trophy yet? I did, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can double platinum in. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:06:30 When I was on the couch today with Benny while he was watching cartoons, I downloaded it at work, the PlayStation 4 version through remote play, and then went in there and popped it this morning. So, yeah, two platins and Diablo, no big deal. But it's funny because, again, the grind there of like 70 to 80, 82, and it was taking me forever. I wasn't having fun. I was so upset because I wasn't having fun playing Diablo,
Starting point is 01:06:53 and all I wanted to do was go to the seasonal realm and play the new character in Diablo and I do that battle pass because I'm just that guy that needs the ding and the thing but when you're in that no man's land it's like well I'm not getting gear anymore because I finish the battle pass
Starting point is 01:07:06 and I'm not getting I'm getting paragon points or whatever but it's not the same as getting a new ability or making myself stronger. Yeah that's a tough place to be. It feels like a kind of place where people are with Destiny 2 right now where just limbo
Starting point is 01:07:21 everybody playing Destiny 2 right now knowing that there's nothing else on the horizon. Yeah, exactly. It feels like you're... Infernal hordes, thank you. It feels like you're working at a place where you know you're all getting laid off
Starting point is 01:07:32 in six months. So you're just kind of like, I guess I'm like, do I just leave now or what do I do? You know, so it feels kind of odd. It was like, it was for me,
Starting point is 01:07:41 the SpongeBob meme of like looking out at all the people playing the new season, having fun and me and be like, I'm getting no credit on that battle. I need to be getting credit. And not to mention, we're so close to the new character in October
Starting point is 01:07:52 where I'm like, I just want to be spiritborn. Let's get me there. final two super chats to end out the show Mad Rocks writes in and says The Lies of P mission tracker makes other souls like feel lesser What's up with that, Andy? Lies of P mission tracker
Starting point is 01:08:07 You don't know what that is? I don't even remember I barely remember it I don't remember what they mean by that Oh, it's possibly Them telling you kind of where a side quest is And the next spot it'll be in So it's kind of less a
Starting point is 01:08:24 obtuse in those ways. It's a bit more guided but not as upfront in your face of like you need to go here, you need to go here. You have to look for it a little bit, but I think it's a little less of a guessing game, I would say. May I recommend Armored Core 6? If you don't want to get lost in a story and try to find
Starting point is 01:08:41 characters, you don't know what they're at. You should jump right into Armored Corps 6. They're going to tell you the story and you're going to enjoy it. Don't worry about it. Can you just listen to a recommendation from us once? Don't worry about it. I couldn't beat Balte. It sounds like a scale issue. You didn't come over to my house and beat
Starting point is 01:08:58 Baltias for me. You just gave up on it so fast. It was my number two for last year, only behind fucking tears of the kingdom, Mike. Esty Turtle writes in the blessing and says bless, it improves on Genshin a lot. Shipable cutscenes. I don't know it. I'll tell you it a little bit.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Don't be a collector. Don't be a collector and you won't pay. I play one of these games. Y'all try to just fucking shovel these games on me. I only played one. Leave me alone. Ladies and gentlemen, We love each and everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in to today's
Starting point is 01:09:27 Kind of Funny Games cast, where we talked all about Greg's games while he's been on vacation. Thank you for tuning in and supporting guests. What if you're watching live on YouTube and on Twitch, the day is not done. It's far from over. Me and the boys are going to hop in to the lap
Starting point is 01:09:41 and jump into Concord, thanks to some early access from PlayStation. So we'll be playing games with all of you. And then, of course, we'll be back with all of the fun content that you can get here at Kind of Funny. Don't forget we're an 11-person small, business if you want the very best of kind of funny. Consider joining us on Patreon and on
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