Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - How Wrong Were Our Predictions This Year? - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 28

Episode Date: July 9, 2020

Tim, Greg, Blessing, and Imran look back on all of their old predictions and make a few for the future. Time Stamps - 00:00:00 - Start 00:03:00 - Best Mario Platformer 00:08:50 - Vita vs Wii U What Have We Been Playing? 00:17:02 - Trivia Royale 00:25:15 - Peggle 00:26:00 - Who Is Winning Predictions So Far Halfway Through the Year & Predicting The Rest of Summer Game Fest Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up guys. Welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast. As always, I'm Tim Geddes. Join by one of the coolest dudes in video games. The Green Drink himself, Greg Miller. They call me the Green Drink. What's you drinking there? It's a smoothie. Actually, can we hit that one more time? I didn't start the live stream to then. So just give me two seconds. I'm going to stop recording. Actually, I'm going to get a standby. What's up guys? Welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games Cats. As always, I'm Tim Gettys, joined by one of the coolest dudes in video games, Mr. Green Drink. What are you talking about that?

That doesn't make sense. Why would you say that on Green Drink stuff? You'd be drinking that green drink. I saw you, Greg Miller. Yeah. Where's the green drink? Now, here's my question. No, no, no.

Fuck off with the arrest of introductions. All right. We have a question here. First off, his beard is amazing. Your beard is in stain. I have not seen it. Muram Ron Khan. It's quite long.

Look at that. I think that I've seen. First off, did you change your camera? Number two? No, not yet. We're working on it. We're about to make him look real pretty. Well, it's the thing is, I think he's got more of the pixels this time around. I don't know what it is about the lighting. I think I always thought it was just a shadow.

I didn't realize the beard had gotten this ridiculous. No, it's like, I was thinking I would try to aim for Cratos beard before end of August, maybe early October. But I'm probably rapidly hitting it quite soon. Yeah, God, that looks ridiculous. In a good way, that looks ridiculous. Is there a reason for that? Is that some insider shit? Are you saying that God of War II is going to be an. announced sometime between August and November.

It's going to be called God of War to Colin Beard. It's just going to be about Kratos' beard. And you just sit there watching him grow it for X number of years. DC fandom is going to be off the chair. It's a bad game, actually. All right, so here's a new face of video games blessing

out of Yo-e-A-Junier. It's me. It is you. Greg Miller, from Kind of Funny. Number one, we've had a couple of misstarts here on the thing. Kevin said the background is messed up. Is the background still messed up? Because Cameron Kennedy's pointing out the background's misaligned.

It definitely is still messed up. I don't understand. I don't understand. Guys, I spent so much time. Wait, wait, like an extra 10 minutes working on it. Hey, man. It's either way, whatever. Game's cast.

Most people listen to the show anyway. Yeah. YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. You can watch it. If you want to listen to it like Buzz is talking about, you can do that too. Podcast services. Just search for.

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Thank you. Thank you for that. And if you do all that stuff, we'll appreciate you a lot. If you don't want to do that stuff, that's cool. You can get the show free and all those other places I already mentioned. But yeah, we like talking about games. And that's what we do here on the kind of funny games cast. How are you guys doing before we get into all that, though? Good.

I've had Hamilton stuck in my head for the last five days. And it's gone from being like, man, this is awesome to, man, I'm going insane. I can't. Welcome to my last four years, bless me. I can't get the songs out of my head. And I don't know what to do about it. I try listening to other songs. It doesn't work.

I try just like not listen to it. It doesn't work. I feel like I have to then start listening to it again. And yeah, it's it's driving me crazy. Blessing, you've only been with us a couple of months now, but I've already hit my favorite moment of being on camera with you. And it was during the Hamilton Review screencast that we did where you did your intro and you were trying to reference the like, shoot my shot.

Not throwing away my shot. And you threw it away. You fucked it off the line. So bad. It was just being possible. But you love to see it. You made it up for it at the end of it, though. Your outro was fantastic.

I'm not going to ruin you. You guys can go check that out. YouTube.com slash kind of funny. But yeah, Imran. So I feel, again, welcome back to the show. Last week, you made your valiant return. All right. Well, he can be welcome back two weeks in a row.

I'll take him, though. He deserves it. I've been seeing a lot of love for him on the Reddit and the comments and stuff. This is good. This is good. Imron deserves all of the love. because I appreciate you so much, I'm wrong. And I know it last week I kind of went off and I gave you a lot of praise.

I want to give you even more praise this week because you just keep putting out tweets that I either completely agree with. And I'm just like, God, this guy has really good takes or I completely disagree with. But I'm like, it's never a thing of like, I hate you. It's always a thing where I'm like, damn, he's a smart dude. We might disagree, but I fucking, I respect it. I respect the shit out of it. The Mario one I agree with.

What was Mario one? What did you say about Mario? I think it was like unpopular Mario opinions. I said if you can get past the art style Newspen Mario Brothers of you, Deluxe is probably one of the best Mario games.

Oh. If you can get past the boring art style, new Super Mario Brothers slash new Super Mario Luigi, you? I don't know on that one. It's a better 2D Mario than most of the games in the series. Yeah. My favorite response,

I didn't even see you the tweet originally. I just saw Andre from Game Explain respond with the, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Get out. I feel like this could be a game cast topic on itself. Because if we lay out all the 2D Mario games,

I'd love to see the argument or like hear the argument from Mario U. because I think the Wii U Mario Brothers are like good games. And if you divorce them from the boring art style, like they're even amazing games. But I don't know if I can put them above Mario 3 and Super Mario World. They're in that conversation. And I would, I'm with Imron and I don't know how high you'd rank it. Fuck it.

We're talking about this right now, guys, for a little thing. At least a couple minutes. We got to do. You have changed the topic. This is it. I feel like it's in the conversation of three in world. It's not going to beat them. There's no fucking way.

I think it beats three. I think three is a good game. You're wrong. But the levels of three are interesting, but they're way too short. That's what's great about them, though. They're bite-sized. They don't overstay. They're welcome.

There's so many of them. It's like a new challenge every other corner, you know? But I feel like if we combine like three of those levels and to have like a normal-sized level and be fine. But then just think of it. It's fine. Mario 3 is a cut cutie Mario in my eyes. I was a world guy my entire life where I would fight two of death that it's number one.

But in my old age, I'm realizing that three is probably the better game. But it's so close. It's so close. It really comes down to do you want more creativity and interesting different things to do? That's three. Or do you want more exploration in a lot of very similar looking locales? That's world. Both of those fantastic.

experiences. You add New Super Mario Bros. You to the mix. And that's just kind of like a weird hodgepodge of, I think, more consistent, long, good levels and challenging levels. What I think what I think Newsomor Borders to you actually succeeds is it's not either of those games in terms of exploration or platforming. It's, it's mostly platforming. It's those gold coins or whatever the green coins or whatever they were. It's those small little platforming challenges and finding those coins because they're not hidden necessarily, but they're always like, oh, this gives me a reason to check this area or to do this one platform I think I would not think to do.

And I think that's what makes that level design better. And that's why I love the GBA ports of the Mario All-Stars versions of Mario 3 and Mario World. Well, Mario World's its own thing. But like, because it has the Yoshi coins or it has the little collectible coins, but they're not as thought out as they are in the Wii U version. Yes. So there's a lot of good arguments.

admit, there's no argument for we, which Jared Petty thinks is the best of these. Doki, get the fuck out of here. We is great for co-op, is what I'll say. It is a great, great, great co-op game. I think the one that really established News of Mario Brothers as a co-op game.

But I think that's really the only thing I could give it. Speaking of a controversial Twitter takes, Greg, how did that Wii U versus Vita thing turn out? Like, what was the end result of that poll? A whole new topic number two, We're talking about the Wii versus Vita.

Oh, I thought you're cutting me off. No, no, no. Yeah, the Vita one. It was close, though. Let me try to get that pulled up for you. I mean, to be fair. It's kind of a skewed poll. Because like Greg Lowe is on the Vita.

Now, for the record, you'd think, you'd think that, but for the most part, my cult is able to see through bullshit. Remember when, uh, when me and McCaffrey did the thing where McCaffrey put up, do you like the PlayStation sticks or the offset sticks or the Xbox controller, right? Xbox obviously started

steamrolling it and he's like I would be interested if you know one day in an alternate universe Greg posted this with the exact same work and I just did these I did exactly what he pitched right and text them right away the link and still even on my feed offset sticks one for the Vita poll it went like this I said you have to pick one Vita or Wii U Vita one with 53.2% of the vote oh that's close I feel like that's so close that's so close on like the Greg Miller from the Greg Miller audience that I feel like I would edge it toward WiiU. Sure. I mean, I personally go on Vita, but I feel like in a more face, Wii might win.

Vita had more good games. It just like, I think Wii you had better ones. If I can give you the feedback where this started from, ladies and gentlemen, if you're not following me on Twitter, first off, I want you to pull the car over, lean out the side, put your, I want you to kneel, put your body into your chair, pull down your own pants, spank yourself three times, because you have been naughty. You should be following me on Twitter. You naughty, naughty person, all right?

Now get to get back in the car, start driving again. On Twitter, though, Asuna had tweeted at me and said, At Game Over Greggie, hey, any chance you in the team at Kind of Funny Vids can stop shitting all over Nintendo Land and the Wii U. Wii is an amazing console. Damn it, Nintendo Land was ahead of its time. And I just quote, I quote tweeted and just said, no, the Wii U sucked. And then that was off to the races of people pissed off and here we fucking go. And like Asuna's credit, totally in on the joke.

This was a dumb video game argument. between best friends on Twitter. A person, I don't know, a kind of funny best friend. And so then I put up the poll and then that was a whole other can of worms. Then somehow Wii U started trending. I was like,

oh, God, what did we do? I took people in like, unrelated chat rooms. Notice, I'm adding some time code here. Unrelated chat rooms, people were talking about it, yeah. Yeah, people were like actually really mad at you for starting that argument. And like, from both sides of it.

Let's, let's dive into this just a little deeper than we already have. Obviously, I'm going to side with the Wii U because I'm going to, Nintendo Boy and the Wii was home to many amazing Nintendo games. Whereas to me, the Vita didn't necessarily have the games that I would associate with why I like PlayStation. And it had some, but it's just like Golden Abyss, not my favorite of the Uncharted games. I think that's the big thing, though. Uh-oh.

I think you're cutting out, you're cutting out, but I assume you're saying Vita's better. I'm cutting out. The Vita is a happy blessing right now. Am I back? No, he's back, he's back. How am I now? Am I good? You're good, you're good, you're good. I'll say that Wii U has been a first party.

Vita has been a third party. Well, Vita has like no first party. It had... And Wii U has like, pretty much no third party. And if it does have third party, it's like exclusives. Yeah. Like, Vita had like gravity rush and golden abyss and... Yeah, tear away.

Freedom Wars. Yeah, tear away. I did love. Kill zone mercenary, which, again, was good. Hmm. But... Yeah, come on, it was good. I will say,

it was good. It was good. is that like they really didn't get started on the Wii you like they didn't really hit the engines on that system until like well after it was dead until like three years in and like that was when Splatoon and Mario Maker and those games started coming out it's like oh yeah now they understand what they want to do with this controller but before that it was like okay this is just a a good Mario game

this just a good Donkey Kong game there that's cool but an amazing donkey Kong yes again I think that's on Twitter the best Donkey Kong country game was Tropical Freeze and here's the thing that was one that I'm like I don't know that I can agree with you, but I respect it. I saw you like that once. I wasn't sure which one you fell in. I still like it. I like the takes because I know they're coming from an educated place. You're wrong. Donkey Kong Country

2 is better, but Tropical Freeze is something special. But Nintendo Land. Amon, what are your thoughts on Nintendo Land? I think Nintendo Land was a couple of really good, well-thought-out minigames, but it's also probably a number of. There are at least four of great minigames in that thing.

But how many bad ones were there, bless? How many bad ones? I don't know. I couldn't tell you what the other ones were, honestly. If you told me that there were only four-me-name, I believe you. We were 100% playing to do a Nintendo Land thing before all this COVID stuff struck. But, like, that is still a play it at some point. You got Mario Chase, which is like the tag game, which is excellent.

You have- What he needed more courses. For sure. Yes, I'll say that. You have the Luigi's Mansion mini-game, which is the best mini-game in that thing. Countless, countless nights in college having to blast with that bang. there's the Animal Crossing game which I can't remember what it was called

or even what the rules were I just remember that it was a lot of fun and then the Zelda one was real good the Zelda yeah the Zelda on Rails thing was really good and then I I think that's kind of where it stops for me as far as the Donkey Kong one I think is great as like a single player like the best single player

in that event was the Donkey Kong one but I think I never played it single player is because I didn't own a Wii you whenever I played a Wii you usually was at a friend's place and so Nintendo Land for me was primarily a multiplayer game. Yeah. But yeah, I think the thing

had a number of very good ideas. The problem is none of those good ideas were like, here's why you need this controller or why you need this new system. And that was like the major problem with that as a set piece software. It wasn't the Wii sports of the Wii. And I think that it was kind of hoping it would be.

Totally. Yeah, I think that's why in particular with Asuna and then my response of, no, the Wii you sucked. I'm not talking shit about Nintendoland. I did Nintendo Land as a demo at E3 once and had fun with it. I never fucking touched it again

when I got a Wii you, I never fucking opened the box. I just tossed it to the side. It was more of the fact that I think the Wii U sucks. Not the library, not the thing. I hate the fucking machine. I hate the shitty controller. I hate that you can't get more than whatever six feet from it with it. I was just like, that's my whole thing about why I hated the Wii U. and why, yeah, a whole bunch of great games came to it.

And I couldn't be bothered to drag the Wii U off my fucking bedroom floor, untangle the goddamn censor bar to put it back in there to do the thing to get it all up and running. I mean, you know, buying the proprietary memory cards for Vita and all this other that was totally You're right Tim, the one time purchase. Oh, the God. The one time purchase of the memory card. I'm going to bring my chargers with me.

Oh, fuck, I need to bring a Vita specific charger. It fixed up the same around. You could just put the cable in there. Don't act like you don't have a million fucking cables. I've seen your car. Oh, what makes this cable special or this console special? The OLED screen. Oh, let's get rid of that.

Let's just get rid of it. Don't need the OLED screen. Didn't need it. Didn't need it. My slim. My pink baby over there on the, you can see it right there. Look at it. Just chilling out there. Ready to play anything I want to play.

Ready to play. Let's remember. You want that gagged rob. Go for it. When you go to GameStop and you look at the Wii U section, you're probably not going to find a ton of great games. It's just like the same games you know that are good for the Wii you. You go to GameStop and you look at the Vita section. You're like, holy shit, I don't want to be here that looks like a pedophile.

Because you see all those like conception and all those kind of games on there. Totally. But like, but like, monster Dunton or whatever the fuck that was called? What are you doing at GameStop as a Vita owner? You got to go into the PlayStation store, look at all them different indies, buy severed, get Supermeat boy, get Rogue Legacy, get the hits, man. It's all about the indie hits on Vita. As a percent of 4 at this point, you might as well just buy it on PC. But the thing with the Vita has, I don't, you can't do that because if we're going to bring that argument in, let's just start knocking off Wii U games.

We don't have to fucking talk about it anymore because they're on Switch. And also, also shout out to Wifu Uncovered coming to Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch, continuing the Vita's legacy of very weird. 40-ass games. But I don't have to go to like games, not to look at those. I can be embarrassed at home in my own time. Oh, man, I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Let's move on to what we've been playing.

Bless, I specifically want to ask you, what have you been playing? So I've been playing a lot of this mobile game called Trivia Royale, which is, it's basically just a battle royale, but a trivia version. Because if you know me, you might know that I really dig trivia. Um, it's, so I know a lot of people are probably familiar with like HQ trivia and stuff like that that is like live trivia shows. This is not that. This is basically a thousand players, uh, come together in like this, this big old trivia event. Um, and you're basically matchmaked with, uh, like one other player, one at a time.

And you're going through like these rounds of five different questions. And if you beat that other player, you then get, you then progress to the next round. And so you go, you're essentially going like one at a time, uh, round for round against a bunch of players and seeing then you're seeing how far you can get um and so i've been spending a lot of my time playing this game because it's weirdly really addicting i played it for the first time last night and i played it for about an hour and a half i was just in i was just laying in bed like it was one of those things i should have been going to sleep and i couldn't i couldn't stop it was a one more match one more match you get to choose the topic of trivia so you can choose video games

yeah and like the questions they ask are are pretty interesting where it's like it's not as easy as you'd kind of expect because I went into it like these are going to be I'm going to nail this 10 out 10 for everything and I missed a couple of them you can start to kind of learn what it what it's doing but bless is there a way for you to actually do a round right yeah that looks like it uh yeah so and actually to that point Tim uh because yeah there's like a couple of different ways you can play you can do like the battle royale which which pulls in all the different topics or you can choose your topic like you're saying and I've been doing a lot of the video game stuff and I'm trying to open it up here

as I'm going. Yeah, I just lost a battle real. But I've been killing it in the video game trivia. I think I have like, so far I've won like 10 out of 12. I've not been playing, I've not been playing a crazy amount of the topic based stuff, but I think I've,

I think I've reached like number two or three in SF at this point. As far as like ranked. Yes. because I keep on a for a second and so

why it's not here we go yeah okay yeah I did you just launch up the the battle of y'all game or are you like

I'm registering right now to ask him I got to have a yeah oh my dear so bless

are you are you gonna load up a video game trivia right now I'm trying it's like being slow because like the one thing

that I thought is funny is every round there was at least one question question where one of the answers was eternal champions. Wait, really? And I'm just like, what's the fucking hell? The questions.

The questions do range from like very easy to like really obscure and like kind of nonsensical. Like those one where the question was, what's the name of this game console and had a picture of it? And I had a picture of a PlayStation Vita. And literally like in the picture, you can see on the Vita where it says PS Vita. And so it's like, all right. whoever put together this question wasn't like thinking too hard about it.

I could tell I was playing against some some real young kids, uh, last night because they were nailing like the Minecraft stuff. And there was a similar thing where it showed a super Nintendo and says super NES on it or whatever. And like I got it right. They got it wrong. All right.

So I got to, dumb ass kids. I got to open. So right now I just click the, the video game topic and so it's like searching through. Is there any way? Yeah, we can focus so that we can actually see it. How's that looking?

How's that looking? No, you're too close. Pull back a bit. There we go. Oh. Okay, that's good enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

All right. Hold on. So I'll read the question. What products, what product slogan is, live in your world, play in ours. I have no idea what the answer to this is.

That's, PlayStation. Yeah. Live in your world, playing hours? Yeah, I was a pretty old one. or PS2, Ratchet and Clank stuff. Oh, okay.

Which company was responsible for the Wii gaming console? So that's obviously Nintendo. Mm-hmm. And again, it's only five questions. So question three of five. Which of these video games is based off of Dungeons and Dragons? And it has Tetris 99, Missile Command, Dishonored, and Baldurgate, too. Oh, okay.

Yeah. I was just praising these for being difficult, and these sound really easy. But trust me, there's some weirdness. Which 1981 game was the first with animated cutscenes? It has Kid Icarus, Ice Hockey, Super Mario Brothers, and Donkey Kong. Oh, shit. I'm going to, the answer is Donkey Kong. Oh, I guess that makes sense, right?

Because him stomping down and, like, causing the level to happen. Yeah. What 1980s arcade game featured the hand-drawn animated character, Dirk the Daring? Dragon Slayer. Oh, shit. It's told me I have a bad connection. Eventually, Tim is just going to keep an extra Dragon Layer, it will be right. It's Dragon's Lab.

Yeah, this one is translator. Oh, fuck my app went down. I guess my internet's fucking up today. I'm sorry, guys. We're furious. So is your focus. Oh, yeah. Anyway, trivial around is dope.

I'm super into it. How are you doing? I'm starting my first one right now. Okay. I'm doing it. Let's go around with Greg Miller. I'm playing against Yee, Y, Y, 4, 3.

This guy's going to fucking die. Say hi. Say hi. He says, let's do this. right here we go get ready one here we go question one of five what is the name of this video game console it's a playstation four they didn't intercap playstation cowards question two of five what is the purple dragon that inspired the skylanders game spiro star the inspired they're just going off what they've given me yeah number three what completes this video game it's majora's mask sorry i can do it faster

He said Majores Gauntlet, what a fucking idiot. The guy sucks. The game console made by this company, Sega. He doesn't know. He's panicking. He said Nintendo. Number five. Mount X is a boss in which fighting game series.

Mount X. Techin, Streets of Rage, Eternal Champions, Fighters Uncaged. I went Eternal. I want Eternal Champions. Mount X. M.T. period X. I'm the winner. There you go. That's it. I never have to play again. Now I'm...

Wait, no. Wait. Eternal Champions, right? No, it's not. It didn't, it doesn't... It went so fast, it didn't do it. You know what I mean? It's not streets of... Wait, is it supposed to be Mr. X? Because then that's Street of Rage. Yeah, I think they misspelled it because it was Mr. X is the Streets of Rage. Well, guys,

I beat the shit out of Y-Beeee-E-E-E-E-B-U-Sure. It's a fun, it's a thrilling. It's thrilling because, like, if you answer it faster than the other people, you get more points. So there's this like thrill to it all, you know? That's what I can get, yeah. Anyways, guys, Trivial, that's dope. Greg, have you been playing anything that you can actually talk about?

No, but it's a good point, or a good time to point out that, yeah, I'm playing ghost of Sashima right now. We can't talk about it. And when I say me, me, blessing and Imran are Kevin two over on the ones and twos. And our review of that will post Tuesday morning. So next Tuesday, the tool. That's not right. What's the date on next Tuesday? Tuesday to 14th.

We'll have our review at 7 a.m. It looks like is what I was on the calendar, which I believe is the correct time. But no, I've been playing that, so that's been dominating all things. On top of that, I guess I've been playing Watchdogs, Legion and Assassin's Creed Malala,

but I can't tell you about that until Sunday. So Sunday, remember, it's Ubisoft Forward. We'll be doing our live reacts on Twitch.com. Like, kind of funny games, and a post show. You can catch them both on YouTube.com slash kind of funny games later. Once the presentation for Ubisoft Forward ends,

we will be able to talk to you about playing that. that'll be me and Barrett talking about both those games. Ooh. Ooh, you know. And I don't have much to talk about, but since Blast brought up the mobile game stuff, I've been back on my PAYGO blast bullshit.

And I am so close to three-starring every single level. I'm down to like the final 20 that I need to do, which sounds like a lot, but there's a shit ton of levels. And I'm just at this point where every day I'll just load a couple up and just try and try and try. And it's just beating my head against the wall. I don't even know why I'm doing it. But I don't want to look up YouTube videos and just,

figure out like the cheat way to do it you know because like there's all those guides and stuff you can go to igon dot com look up peggle blast i'm sure brandon graber will put up some bullshit telling me how to cheat i'm not trying to cheese no i'm trying to do this the hard earned way i don't know it's ever going to happen though but whatever i believe in you i trust you thank you yeah thank you gregg it's about someone believes in me um moving on i want to talk about predictions we've been talking about predictions more than ever this goddamn year. I swear to God. Normally, it's just, okay, we'll do like beginning of the year predictions,

and then we'll do right before E3 predictions, and then we'll do right before Game Awards predictions. But with this summer game fest, summer game mess, this naughty three, we got new predictions every week. And I know that it's getting a little tiresome, but I did look back. And the last time we did a proper predictions topic on Gamescast was like two and a half months ago.

So it was a while back. And so much has changed. We have so many new events. We have so much confirmation of dates. Change dates. Things have happened. The PlayStation event, all this other stuff. But before we get to all that, I do want to look at our predictions so far.

We've made many predictions this year. And I want to let this group of people know, we're not doing too well. Oh, no. Yeah, I saw that in the subred. I'm like, oh, shit, we were real wrong still. So my boy Canon over on Reddit has been always. for the last couple years looking out of predictions and kind of giving us the points and i've looked at him as the official kind of funny point bearer um taking on the the the the role that

what was his name gregg from back in the beyond beyond days uh blog my dog nick 90s oh my dog nick 96 yeah yeah right uh exactly uh canon has been doing it on games cast for a long time i really appreciate it um he'll go in and he'll like give us and i look at him as the truth whatever he says goes because he gives us the points and the random like half points and third points. And he tries to be fair and balance. And I appreciate that. But anyways, looking at it right now, I'm just going to let you guys know at the bottom is Imron. Oh, wow.

With a quarter of a point, right. Not even a full fucking point. Normally when we do this, even the bottom is probably at like three or four points. Hold on. I'm trying to find it to open it up. But I mean, come on, this has been a weird year. Everything's moving. Everything's changing.

It is what it is. We got shakes. The difficult thing for me for these is that when I actually know things, I can't say them, which makes it so that you have to get some rule. What do I say? What can I predict that is it the answer that I know? That's the rules of these games, man. So you coming in at 0.25 points.

And you got that for PS5 reveal parts of it. Okay. I come in next at one third of a point. Wow. Because I predicted correctly that Blue Points game would be shown at the PS5 reveal event, although I was wrong about everything else, including the fact that it would not be Demon Souls and that it would be Metal Gear Solic. Yeah. I said it was Demon Souls, but I didn't count as an actual prediction, so that was no points.

but I still, it was on record that I got that right. Then Barrett coming in, he has half a point. Hey, I think he only made one prediction. And I need to find, this is a long thing. And it's hard because he only gave notes on like why we have this point. I need to find it in the dock later. But it's about never forgetting about Batman. It's bad bad bad.

It's a point in some way. So this is it. Who's the winner so far? Is it Greg? Or is it bless? Do you guys have an idea on who you think it is? is? I mean, I think it's for obvious reasons. Greg?

Who do you think it is? I had already read this. I have it in front of me now, but I'd already read this and, you know, it's a lot of bullshit. That's what I'll say. Bless is the winner so far. Greg Miller coming in. It's called a lead. All right, it's a lead, Tim. All right, it's not the winner. Nothing's over till it's over, all right? That's true.

But so far. Young buck nipping at my heels every day, all right? Come on. I love nipping. Number two, we have Greg Miller. Greg Miller with one point because of Patapontu. Because Greg Miller said Patamontu is released. And IGN and GameSpot continue to be cowards and refuse to review it. There you go.

Told you. So Greg gets the one solid point for that. And Blessing is currently leading because of two things. Yeah. He has 1.75 points. Let's go. And that is because he resisted the Horizon 2 bandwagon of it being a launch game or launch window game. But also, because this motherfucker said that GTA 5 was going to be a standalone release on the PS5.

Not only was it, it was the opening fucking stagnant. You all doubted me. You all doubted me. I thought I agreed with you. I was speaking to the truth. I mean, I think you might have agreed to me, actually. Everybody else doubted me. It's so funny, so funny.

Yeah, looking through some of the, the, his little editorializing on our predictions here. When will the PS5 be revealed to find his release date and price? All of us were wrong. Still waiting on both release date and price. But he's going to give Imran the point two five for at least being right about the first look. So Imron was the only person that said June. The rest of us said May. So there you go.

And what will be the first party says exclusive launch titles for PS5? none of us got it right or also all wrong because um bless we everyone said horizon two except for bless who said blue points game and house marks game um and around coming in with street fighter six i'm gonna stop you there because this episode is also just kind of about predicting the future too do you think street fighter six gets announced this year and if so where i used to think it would get announced but then they announced street fighter five whatever season they're on so i think they're going to finish that out. And maybe early next year we hear like a Capcom Pro Tour announcement of like,

oh yeah, and here's Street Fighter 6. Okay, okay. Moving on here. Yeah, Blask that's plus one for saying GTA 5 will be re-released in some new edition for next gen. Is it even a new addition or it's just like, here's GTA 5 again. I mean, it's pretty much like here's a takeaway point. I'm adding to the discourse, Kevin. They called it the expanded.

something something in the trailer. Something like that, yeah. And I think I had another specific prediction that there's going to be like single player DLC and they've said nothing about that at all. And when I say single player dLC, I'm more so mean they just add more content to the single player, which they haven't said anything about. What you said, Bless, was GTA5 will be re-released in some new edition for next gen, either graphical overhaul or new single player content akin to persona five royale.

Yes. Royal. And so technically I got one of those right. I wouldn't give you a full point, but you know what? I'm still holding, I mean, I'm still holding out hope for a new single-payer content. I'm still holding out hope. I think there's a chance that it could still have some. They didn't have PS5 footage at the reveal.

It was literally just a PS4 trailer. Why not? Because they're working on new assets. Think about it. Think about it. I refuse to think about that. Let's see. Blessing got another point 75 because he said Horizon Zero and 2's revealed this year for

PS5, but not for long. date of 2021. Instead, there will be a NAC 3 game at launch. So that's why you didn't get the full point there. I should have said Astrobat because we did get, because in my mind, I remember making that prediction and being like, it could be Astrobot and Astrobat would be the better decision. And they actually did it, which I could have got that full point, but.

Then we got, uh, Barrett got point five because he said Ratch and Clank too, follow-ups in the 2016 game within the first year of PS5. We don't know that yet, but that's why you got 0.5. Gotcha. I appreciate that. Greg predicted Marvel's Avengers gets delayed to 2021. Looking very unlikely at this point. What do you think about that now?

I'm really looking forward to that. What do you think now, though? Yeah, I think they seem to set on it. The marketing wheels are all very much in motion. You see it every day. There's like three or four tweets every fucking day with the new gif about it. Not always very well thought out tweets. No, yeah, yeah.

They did the giant war table thing already. Like, I think they would have done. I think they would have made a move by now. If they could look down the line and be like, oh, man, in two months we're not going to be game time ready. Um, Imron said that Beyond Good and Evil 2 doesn't come out this year, but I think they released Rayman this year.

So we have the Ubisoft conference coming up. Imron. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. I think actually when Blessing and I were talking about Ubisoft yesterday, I think I might have gotten the exact opposite direction on it. It said like, no, Rayman. So I'm going to stick with both of those and one of those is going to be right. Gotcha.

Which, which Imran do you trust? Do you trust the Imron from Kind of Funny Games daily? The Imron from Kind of Funny Games guest. Where are you at now? Like, you have to put the money on it. And I'm going to say, okay, for these predictions, I will say, yes, Rayman is shown but not released. Oh, I really hope.

I want more Rayman, man. I would too. Let's go. Let's see. the next four inside Xbox conference on July 23rd Imron says there's zero way that Marvel didn't approach Microsoft about a thing I think that thing will be shown and it's the initiative's first game God I hope that's true that is the one I want to believe so fucking badly

I'm gonna I want to say that sorry go for Aaron I was gonna say I'm gonna back off on that I think they'll show a game well okay I don't know that it'll show a game but I think at that point this point that game is perfect dark doing the initiative is like no no no Tim yeah that's all I was gonna say Jeffrey grub grub grub grub

Jeffie grub grub thank you he has a name it's jeffy grub grub I'm like fully convinced that it's perfect dark and I kind of believe Jeffy grub that we're not going to see it if I could believe Jeff Jeffy grub grub

I think which I kind of do I think well we won't see it but it is the game they're working on that is my feeling So why would we not see it? And by the way, Kevin for time codes and the cast for this, we're now just molding our melding our predictions and looking back at our old

predictions, one giant kind of hodgepodge of fun here. Predictions update. Yeah, predictions update with all of this. Why do you think that is, Amron? Are they not going to show it in a couple weeks because it's not ready to be shown or because they are trying to play a chess game with PlayStation on reveal announcements between reveal events, state of plays, and inside Xbox, whatever the fuck you want to call them.

I think it's half chess game and half, if it's a game, it appeals to the same audience, Halo would. So you want people to pay attention to Halo as the big thing, the big headliner of this event. Fable and Halo were different things. They both appeal to a Microsoft audience, but I think not so much as Perfect Dark and Halo would. and they don't want to make that same mistake they made before where, like, they kind of rushed the game a little bit and didn't really know what the audience wanted from it. So this, I think, is a way for them to make Halo Infinite, they're opening salvo, and then say, by the way, coming after this is a new perfect dark that blows everyone away. Do you think, though, that with Microsoft's event coming out now, if it was just Halo and Fable, is that enough? No, I assume they're going to have some other big thing.

I assume they will also have like some major third party collaborations, but I don't think the initiative is quite like, I don't think they're going to show that. But I do believe that for everything, every other first party studio they have, they're going to go down the list to be like, hey, this is what Obsidian's actually working out. It's not just grounded.

Here's more Hellblade 2. Here's, who else do they buy? Here's five. Ever wild. Yeah. Like here's what. the next big thing for double find, stuff like that. What about Marvel?

Going back to this prediction, do anyone here, does anyone here actually think we're going to get a Marvel game at the Xbox showcase? I mean, I think the question is who would work on it? Like, who'd be the ones developing it? Like, if we can fit that puzzle piece, then I could see it, but I can't think of what that puzzle piece would be.

I regretted like Nintendo's Marvel game was not made by Nintendo. It was made by Co-Tecmo. Exactly. That would be my thing. I think if it's not going to be one of the first parties, which I still hope it would be, even though it probably won't be. Yeah,

you could easily get to the Sony partnered up on third party thing. Just like PlayStation just did with PlayStation VR for Ironman VR with camouflage. Just like, yeah. Also insomniac. Yeah,

well, they weren't in a city. Exactly. Exactly. I was thinking to more recent stuff, but yes, that is also true. All right.

Yeah, and this is prediction, or at least a hope that we've brought up multiple times, but in my own, they could make a great Dr. Strange game. And I said Wolverine,

let's go. Someone like a Wolverine game. It's really good. I mean, listen, there's probably some remnants of a deal made with platinum for scale bound And listen, if Platinum made a Wolverine game, I feel like we'd all be in. So I can't imagine this actually happening.

But with the news that Microsoft is interested in buying those studios in DC, what if they announced a, like, a Warner Brothers, like, DC collaboration, or they bought those studios at this event as well as announced a new Marvel game. Like, together. Not like versus or whatever, but I mean, like two new games. Like, fuck it, we got Iron, not Iron Man, because they just had a game. but like Batman and who would be an equivalent Marvel superhero for that. Wolverine, Captain America.

Wolverine. Yeah, like those kind of games together. That would be ridiculous in a very huge way, probably way too soon to even think about anything like that. Yeah, if anything you could have the announcement there, but that would just even bring up more questions that I don't think you wanted an Xbox showcase, right? Because you don't want it to be like, hey, everybody, we're excited to announce.

We've bought WB games. We have Rocksteady. And everybody's question will no longer be like, oh, that's right about this. Are they still making cross-platform games? Like, no, we're not talking about that. We're just saying we got, you know what I mean? Like talk about the box, talk about the games. So moving on to that a little bit, actually.

So, Greg, one of your predictions was, WB, Montreal's Batman game is Game Informers March cover. We see hands-off demo at GDC. And it comes out in October. I do have it on good authority that I'm making up right now that Andy McNamara left because this cover got canceled by GameStop. And they stood in the way of journalism. That's what happened.

That is made up room right. just started. On Thursday, you're interviewing him for We Have Cool Friends on YouTube. That's correct.com slash kind of funny, aka tomorrow. Like, okay, today, if you're listening to this, not like just when it posts on YouTube, you can go check that out. Greg, are you going to ask him if that was the case of why he left? Yes, 100%. Well, actually, you know what? I probably won't because I don't want to embarrass him. We just, we are, you and I know that's the reason now and that I would have had the point if that hadn't happened. So that's pretty much it. Yeah, just where a Batman start and like

wink a lot and I think he'll get it. Remember when Sean Layden wore the Crash Bandicoot shirt and then he actually referenced it later and they announced the Crash Bandicoot game? Nailed it. What a time. What a time to be a lot. But anyways, yeah, you said all that. But then in April grade, you did rescind your prediction and say that wasn't going to happen. And to be fair.

Well, again, remember, yeah. After March. So it's a little late. So take back your prediction. But all good. All good. Barrett says, though, his official guest for release date is the August 4th, which is National Owl Day, which is literally less than a month from now.

When's fandom? When's DC fandom? You know? Or fandom? Or Fandome? Early August. Or mid-Auggest. Yeah.

So it's in August. It's in August. It is in August. So with that, where are we, where are we at? August 20 seconds? Because I don't think that, like, we've talked about this on games daily a bunch of times, or at least I haven't. I actually mean-blasted a little bit, but that was what it was like.

I've talked about it a lot. The WB games. who's going to buy them conversation. Now that we have the four of us together, the most consistent Games Daily host, minus Gary Witta. What's going to happen with WV games? I mean, I think they'll sell them off.

It's just a question of to whom. I think $2 billion is a lot to ask, and whoever gets them is going to have to be one of the major companies. To me, the most likely people seem either like Take 2 or Microsoft. They have the money. They have the capital of space.

spend, they have it to spend on something that if it doesn't work out, then will not be a huge, huge, like it will not destroy their ambitions for quite a while. Like that, with EA and Activision, it actually might because of how weird they are with their software portfolios. But those two, I think, are the most likely candidates in saying that I'm sure I curse myself to being one of the other two. But yeah, I could see definitely it being a big boon for Microsoft if they went that route. I want it to be Microsoft. I think it'll be Microsoft Because I think back to your point You're making in Ron

I think it makes the most sense for them Right? I think you're talking about these Awesome studios that make awesome games That are that you know Phil Spencer's got to be over there Just doing this right?

Not in like Mr. Burns horrible way Like in the way of like This is perfect This is the opportunity. Yeah exactly. This is the first party stable We're assembling And we've talked about making games for gamers

and doing all the stuff. So if you can pick up Rocksteady, if you can pick up Nether Realm, if you can get these studios in-house on your team, whether or not you treat them like Mo Yang, right? And it's Minecraft and guess what? Minecraft is still everywhere. We're still going to whatever, you know,

and I don't even, this is way above my pay grade. But, you know, if Rocksteady really is working on a suicide squad game and we bought them, but it's so far along, of course we're going to publish that everywhere and be their next game that's exclusive, if any or whatever. Like, yeah.

There's a million like businessy things to get to, But I think that you look at Microsoft's having bought Minecraft, you look at them and having gotten Ninja Theory and assembled this thing of like, we understand to an extent, you know, our biggest failing with Xbox One was not having the first party lineup people wanted, right? Something to compete with PlayStation. If you can get these studios in under that thing,

I mean, even if you, you know, TT games, like right in the Lego games, that people adore us kids games like that, this, every studio I think that you talk about in WV games right now that would be a part of this deal. fits with Microsoft's thing. Whether it is a TT games

that's making something for young kids and families or whatever, or you're talking about something that is rock steady and whatever their next huge AAA living, living, breathing world you're going to be in it. And they wouldn't necessarily have to make

exclusive. Like, obviously, if you want to get like rock steady in a Batman game, that makes sense to keep on Xbox. But if for the Lego games, you should put those everywhere, just like you put them out on, like put up Minecraft on everything.

And again, that's the thing we're playing fast and loose with, right, is that again, these are talented, studios that work with already third party IP. So I bet that if I'm Lego, if I'm DC, this happens and we go to renegotiate. I'm like, awesome. No, I so want these on everything. Like this, unless you're giving us a dump trunk full of money, which again, Microsoft might. And that's what I'd imagine, like, jumping off what everyone's saying is like, I do think that it's like,

yeah, for Rock Study, whatever they're doing. It's like they push to get the exclusivity there. But the license is they push to get them everywhere, kind of like the obsidian deal with Outer Worlds, where it's like, that was all pre done or whatever. So yeah, yeah, it was everywhere. Like that. Regardless, guess what? Out of World's on GamePass, right? Yeah. And you look at, imagine if the Lego games were now on Game Pass.

And it's like, sure, you can buy them on the PS5, but you could just get them on Game Pass. Sure. Day and date, they're all popping you. That is, like, the higher game prices thing. Because, like, let's say that Suicide Squad is a game that is on every system, but it's 70 bucks on PS5 and it's free on GameBats. That's actually an extremely good point. Like, what if you, like, the Batman game or whatever the fuck Rock Say is,

doing like whatever rocks it in general wasn't exclusive it was everywhere but it's on game pass like that's a crazy crazy good deal and that seems like the kind of stuff that microsoft's going to be going for right like we've already talked about this you know to death with me but like they've built this strong foundation and now i think Xbox series x this generation is capitalizing on that and having all these programs and making them work for you where you look at it and you're talking about what the best deal in gaming is and how that translates to which console you actually buy. Yeah.

And imagine, yeah, they could do that. Back to like them buying all these companies because personally, I have been either not very interested in a lot of the purchases they've made or been kind of like, okay, those are smaller things or they're kind of like, things like double fine where it's like that that's cool and it's going to be great. But like that's not the kind of like insomniac level purchases of what you know what that's going to mean. And you look back at kind of a couple of those like rare and.

my opinion. They're not making the games that I want to play. You know, it's like Microsoft buying rare wasn't what it sounded like back in the day. Correct me if I'm wrong. But like we all kind of expected that to be a holy shit. This is a game changer. And it kind of just made rare lesser than what it used to be before Microsoft bought them. And it's been a long time since we've seen something like that. But I think that with this, there's so many talented studios that have such amazing kind of like games or like archetypes of games that they have. Like when you look at the Batman games. It doesn't need to be just Batman. You can apply that to Suicide Squad or whatever, and it's going to work equally well. Fingers crossed, hopefully we kind of imagine. But then you look at

Nether Realm and it's like, great, they got Mortal Kombat. Like they own that. That's fine. That's theirs. Sure, they don't own injustice, but that's a license away from being able to have that. Like, this is way more exciting to me than a lot of the purchases they've made potentially in the past, like with the exception of making new things like initiative where I'm like, that's an unknown that they've messaged as a rival to Sony Santa Monica. Like, that's kind of a statement that they're making with that, you know? And I think that this would be very exciting for the industry and very exciting for the race of exclusivity and like making me more interested in Xbox exclusives, which is something that I'm with the exception of Halo, totally not right now. Speaking of Microsoft acquisitions, can I throw like an unsolicited one out there?

I think a very logical smaller studio for them to pick up is armature. The former retro studios, former Metroid Prime

slash people who worked on Recore with Microsoft published studio. It is... The new stuff they just announced. I don't know because they work on a surprising number of things

and they get very low credit for any of them. Yeah. But like I could easily see the Microsoft picking them up and saying, hey,

we're going to hook you up in the other studio, one that knows Unreal Engine 4 or whatever, and have them, have you guys work on an open world FPS adventure game that's like Metroid Prime, but we're not going to say like Metroid Prime kind of thing. Do you think that would push a needle though?

I don't think so, but it adds more to your portfolio. Like, I think Microsoft's end goal as the end of generation is to be thought of for their first party software as good as Nintendo is. It's very difficult to ever hit, like, rev up the engines to that point. But honestly, if you get like very, you get comparisons here. and there, like you get rare on things that they're actually good at, see if these is turning out to be a fantastic thing that is Nintendo like in quality for the kind of game they want to make. I can see them reaching for that portfolio or that diverse portfolio then instead of just,

here's what moves the needle. It's more like, here's what we think of in terms of Microsoft mindshare. Because honestly, yeah, Sony has that too. And beginning of last generation, beginning of the PS3 generation, you wouldn't have really thought that about Sony. Sony was a third party company. Then Microsoft kind of took that mantle for a little bit. little bit. And then Sony built up a first-party portfolio that kind of dwarfed Microsoft's

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ExpressVPN.com slash kind of funny to learn more. Do you think that they're targeting Nintendo and not Sony? I think they're targeting Sony, but I think you target Sony by having something more compelling than them. And the thing, okay, so the thing about Sony is we've just kind of discussed a little bit. bit, but a lot of their single-player narrative games, while being amazing games that sell incredibly well, tend to top out around 20, 22 million, which is a huge number. Don't get me wrong. But those are, when you compare them to other big games, like, when you compare them the biggest games in the industry, they're kind of drops in the bucket. And if you want to get that group of people,

are not that group, you want to get group people who aren't necessarily totally bought in on the idea of single-payer narrative games being the only types of games they play. You do want to have a diverse portfolio that's kind of like Nintendo's plus your own diverse portfolio of like Ninja Theory and 343 and stuff like that. We were like the mention earlier of Trevor Tales games of like the Lego games as an example. Microsoft has always made these like kind of paltry attempts to get a family game system going with like Banjo Kizui and things like that. Why not actually just make it a major part of your initiative that if you want good looking games that are

like not on the switch but our family friendly we have those for you here and they kind of can't get them anywhere else. I mean, but can't you know on PlayStation with like ratchet and rarely? Like okay, let's say you're a someone who who are a family game system and you play most

your games with your family. For this summer on the PS4 there's the last of us, there's Iron Man, there's Goszscheba. Two of those games are right out. One of those games is inherently someone isolating. It's not exactly a living room family situation. Yeah. And I'm kind of with that too. Like if you look at PlayStation's portfolio as far as the family games go, like you have a little big planet, which I think, you know, works pretty well. You have Astrobao, you have NAC and Ratch and

Kling, quite a few other things. I don't think any of those speak on the level as the Lego games do or speak on the, and not in terms of like game quality, but in terms of, hey, I am a person picking up a console for my family, for my kids, for all of us to play together. I feel like Lego speaks on that level a bit better. And then also like what Nintendo has going on with Mario and all the different Nintendo games speak very well on that level. I mean, yeah, I think it's just how what a move it would be to have Rocksteady, C, C, and the games that they've done already on their thing. Because I think when you look at, it's just such a huge punch from Microsoft in the way that like armature is cool for nerds like us. We know they do cool shit.

But I just, that was like when they were like in exile. Like, okay, cool. You know, am I? All right. yeah, great. I'm glad you're getting more studios. I don't even really, what do they do kind of thing? You know, Obsidian got a pop, I think, because of their history, but also obviously because we're on the verge of outer worlds when we're all excited about that and we was previewing well and stuff. We're like, oh, shit, great. Like, they have so many of those like middling cool studios. They do cool

things, but they're not fucking naughty dog. They're not Sony Santa Monica. They're not even sucker punch. And so I think to come out and be like, cool, now we have fucking TT games. And now we have, at Boone and now we have Rocksteady. Holy shit, fuck, all right. These are people and names you really know and really care about. I got a couple of questions for you guys

about what grade just went off on. Rocksteady. What are they? Are they a sucker punch? Are they below? Are they above? Oh, they're higher than soccer punch? They're high.

They're insomniac. Do you think they're at the insomnia level? Yeah. I mean, yeah. I think the difference that is. Yeah, I think the difference that Insomniac has like multiple teams.

in our like they do ration and clank and spider-man whereas rock steady pretty much just does spider-man or batman in their in their case um but i do see them on that level right like i think an excitement from or an announcement from from rock steady on the xbox side will get the same pop as a spider-man from the sony side absolutely so then okay moving on from that mortal combat since the 90s it's been mortal combat versus street fighter what do you think's actually a bigger deal now with PlayStation 4 at least having an exclusive on Street Fighter 5, whether or not it's exclusive. I think having GamePass would be a huge enough win

in their ownership of it all, where it's like even if it's selling on a PlayStation, Microsoft's still making money. It's like that that would be a win for Mortal Kombat. Do you think Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter are the bigger deals in 2020? Also, it's two different audiences. Like Street Fighter, the game means you have the fighting game community under your belt.

But in terms of sales numbers, Mortal Kombat trounces over a streetfighter. Granted Smashwathers is the best selling fighting game between all of them. So it's not like they're kind of fighting for scraps a little bit in there, but Mortal Kombat has sold better every iteration this past since nine.

So if you get that, you have a very good selling fighting game. And if you are Microsoft who wants to maybe bring that killer instinct or you want to get into more adverse killer instinct, boom, there you go. Or you have maybe Nether Realm instead of that offseason. Instead of injustice, in licensing that, you license or you give them kill Rinsink and see what they did with it.

Or even like, and maybe this is too far-fetched, but you make an Xbox style fighting game. Like, you have another realm to do that and like get the gears guys in there, get HALA characters in there. Fuck yeah, blinks the time sweeper. I was thinking about that like a game like that the other day. I was like, oh, how pissing people be when they like do a character trailer and it's John Locke? Or not John Locke, what was his name? lock the guy from Halo 5. From Halo 5, lock, yeah.

Yeah. Just be like, this isn't who I wanted. What the fuck are you guys doing? It would be smash. Go to a PlayStation All-Sars Battle Royale. Very sorry, I'm at, but you understand what I'm talking about. No, yeah. They need to learn the lesson for places in Battle Royale that just rip off the game.

Just whatever. Just I don't care. Go 100%. Go 100. People are going to call it rip off anyway. Just do it. But that's the thing that, Greg, we've talked about this so many times with Mortal Kombat, but back when we're IGN, like, the Mortal Kombat videos did insane numbers.

Anytime there's a trailer, a character reveal, a update on specials or DLC or whatever it is, like guest character or not, those trailers did insane numbers that were like dwarfing anything else that would come out. Mortal Kombat is not only a cultural phenomenon that everybody's played or cared about at least one iteration of it, right, and understands what it is. It's also this convergence point of all these different forms of pop culture, right, of like whether it be the Ninja Turtles or Freddie Kruger, whoever the hell else is coming over. to this game, Terminator, that is in this insane mashup game with these crazy fatalities and this crazy other stuff. And yeah, I think I personally think that, and this is again, I think Imran nails it of like these are way different fighters, right? One is the one that is for fighting game purists and fans and that audience. And the other is, I think, the mainstream fighting game. And in that argument for Microsoft making moves, I think the mainstream fighting game

means way more. Yeah. Totally. What about what about? Especially with the single player element. All of a sudden you have a single player and multiplayer game that is equally fun in both ways and can be played just one of the other or both. And it's a win for people. Like looking back at last generation, of course we have Smash Brothers that's like this Nintendo crossover and it's now become kind of just video game crossover. But Soul Caliper was the, as far as I'm concerned, original kind of who gives a fuck about rules. Let's have crossover characters because it's fun and it's a neat thing and it'll get a huge pop. and that's obviously started with So Calibur 2 with the three characters,

but then moving even on to Soul Calibur 4 and 5 when you got like the Anakin and Yoda and all that stuff. Like Etzio, or Altair. Exactly. All that. Mortal Kombat kind of took that into this generation and like made it cool. Like it made it like 2020. I remember some of Kobe's characters. Like it had spawned this time around.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, Mortal Kombat 9 had had fucking Cratos in it, right? And that was that was when the game kind of came back and reoccurbrose. booted. It came back in something bigger. And since then, they've been on this

upward sweep where I don't know how Mortal Kombat 11 is doing compared to Mortal Kombat 10, but either way, like, I'm pretty sure it's better. Like, Mortal Kombat as a franchise

just hits home in a way that, like, other fighting games don't. And for another, another realm as a studio, like, if Microsoft were to acquire them,

that's a studio putting out that caliber of game every two years. Because NetherRum puts out games every two years, which would be a really big get. I had a friend who watched me and Blessing play Mortal Kombat on a stream. Then he, because he likes Spawn.

So he went and watched a video just of all those Spawns lines with every character. They was like, fuck it, this looks cool. And just bought the game. Had never played a Mortal Kombat game before, just bought it because he liked that one thing. I think if he can just do Game Pass. Yeah, like, that's hard for a lot of people who just buy that game for the story mode. Just like, oh, I'd might as well subscribe to Game Pass. And then like five months later, they still have it.

we're talking a lot about this hypothetical Microsoft buying WB games. If they did, when would it be? I think any deal would have to take. To actually announce a buy would probably be earliest October. To actually incorporate all of them would be like next summer. And then I still think they have to finish everything they're working on contractually, right? Because if you even bring Rock City in, like, I don't think their next game, which we assume is Suicide Squad is going to be. released by next summer so i think it would be this whole thing of when it could be i guess it possibly

could be as a spring game but i think you'd have to get through all that same thing that we saw with uh outer worlds but i mean is that is that is that would that would that even be a loss if they can still pull the game pass card oh no of course not i mean that's you know i mean game pass is already the best dealing gaming and to be able to come out and be like we're adding these whatever three studios that we're talking about right now with t tt nether realm and uh rock steady if you in let alone alone. Is that it or is there another one I'm forgetting about it? That's who we're talking about. Is there another one? Another WB one I'm forgetting? Thank you. If you can come on and say, Oh, right. Yeah. W. Montreal. Yeah. You're right. You're right. No, it gets so it gets so muddled up,

right? That's the Cordowles Batman game, right? Assumably. And then yeah, sorry. But yeah, in anybody else at all. You know what I mean? The Harry Potter people, whatever the fuck. Like, if you can come out and say that we've done this, they're all getting out of the game pass. They're still multi-platform. Yeah, again. And then again, it's this argument if games are 70 bucks. again and you still leave it at $9.99 or you can buy GamePass now, you know, whatever and get some crazy deal for it. Like that's going to be a huge fucking deal as it should be. It's a great, great service. So moving on, I don't want to go too deep into the everything that's going on for the rest of the Summer Game Fest stuff. I have very specific questions. We obviously have

Xbox game showcase coming up very soon. We have the Ubisoft show coming up within days. I want to jump past that. I want to jump to the Xbox August show and the PlayStation August show or September or whenever the fuck it was supposed to be August, both in August, right? Am I right about that? Which is the PlayStation? You buried me. You buried what you're talking about. The state of play?

Have they announced the day from the next day of play? They haven't announced it, but like the Jeffrey Grub-Gub coming through summer game. Jeffie Grub was full of Jeffie Grubb shit, all right? And I'm going to sit here. He's been called to play in August this day one. I believe it. I'm going to get to have a show around Paris Games Week or TGS. So August sounds about right.

We also have to loop in opening night live or whatever. Well, so that's what I want to talk about. Pretty much the three things that I do want to give kind of like predictions for are Xbox's next conference, whatever, the Lockhart reveal, whatever that is. The PlayStation state of play that may or may not happen, but we're going to assume it's going to happen. And then August 28th through 30th or August 27th specifically, which. is the Gamescom opening night live. What do we see at those events? Hmm.

Because really what I'm asking is, what does Xbox hold back from this event that they show at their next event and what does PlayStation either respond to the second event or the first Xbox event? Jesus Christ, we need a whiteboard. Yeah,

we need a whiteboard. They're playing chicken in terms of price. Price or listen. Yeah. When you come on and say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To make it simple, PlayStation's had event one. we know that PlayStation's event two and Xbox's events one and two are coming.

We know Xbox already had event one. No, that doesn't count. You don't count the third party Xbox event is it? I'm not counting that because they don't fucking count it. They're being real about it. Inside Xbox versus an Xbox showcase. Okay. As far as Xbox's next event one, I don't think they're holding,

I don't think they hold back anything. Like, I don't, I don't think you need to be. Lockhart, right? Well, except for Lockhart. Well, I'm talking about, because we're talking about like the first party game reveals for Xbox, which is the July event. I don't think they hold back games at all is what I'm saying. I think we get

basically their full layout of what their first party output is going to be, as far as what they want to show us right now. And so I think with that, we obviously see more about Halo Infinite. I think we see gameplay for Hellblades to do a sacrifice. I think we see the next Forza. We see Ever Wild from Rare, and we

basically get the full layout of what they want us to know as far as first party. I do think we then, yeah, next month, get Lockhart, and whether, I mean, I could see them, like, maybe revealing that during Gamescom opening Night Live, because they revealed Xbox Series X at Game Awards. So it's not necessarily beyond them to do that. But, yeah, if they were to do some sort of their own event, then, yeah, I think we get it.

I think we then get prices on what Xbox Series X is and what Xbox Series S or Lockhart, whatever you call it is. And then for opening night live, I think we maybe see Xbox exclusives, but if we do, those are then third party games that they've made deals with at most. I don't think we, I don't think we see exclusive reveals, or like first part of reveals at Opening Night Live by any means. What was opening live live last year? It was the big Death Stranding reveal and a couple of like smaller indie games.

Like it was a helicopter game. That's literally all I remember from it. I'm going to try looking back now. But I do think that we get more this year, it being the season finale of Summer Games Fest. I mean, Jeff Keeley is nothing, if not a good hype man. So we'll see what that actually means. I mean, look, as far as I'm concerned, he brought Tony Hosh Pro Skater. He bought Crash Manacute for the Summer Games Fest exclusive things.

And if he's looking at this thing being a big season finale, obviously, I understand that those aren't like necessarily the most exciting triple A things. But like they are exciting. They're both going to sell that very well. Like they're big deals, even if they're not like, I don't know. Actually, I take it back. They are exciting. Well, let me throw this out there because Jeff Keely, he has revealed a smash with his character before. That might be in line with time to actually reveal one again.

Especially a very hype one. Yeah, that would make a lot of sense, especially if it's one, like, fairly big in Europe. And actually, I was going to say, speaking to smash, usually when they have a big third-party character as a part of that game, that leads to the company who gave license. the character going like, actually this is popular. Why aren't we making a game with them? Because then we got that new Mega Man design, and that design came with Mega Man 11. Then now that we have Banjo Cazoozee,

I could see Microsoft going, why don't we make a new Banjo Cizoui game? Totally. With this design. Isn't Rare working on too much right now, though? I don't know how big they are, but like they've got Sea of Thieves, and the director of C of Thebes

just said he finished up that project, and he has not been announced to work on anything else. He was also the director of the first two, banjo games? What if we, what if we buy TT games and make them make a new banjo? That, I mean, just make all the Lego pieces jiggies and you basically have a new banjo game. Yeah. So I'm looking at Gamescom 2019 opening night live, a recap from a site called Sackety Gamer, which is an interesting name.

But there's, there was Gears of War five, the new campaign story trailer. A game called Comanche from T.HQ Nordic. The helicopter. Camachia. That was the helicopter game. Comanche. Comanche. DCL, the game, also from T.HQ Nordic. Need for Speed, Heat, had gameplay shown. Curbel Space Program 2 was announced. Little Nightmares, too, was also announced. Predator Hunting Grounds had gameplay shown.

They had a world premiere of the Monster Hunter Iceborne expansion, a game called The Cycle. And then World Premiere is for Life Strange 2, episode 4. And then Human Kind, a game that I do not remember. Borderlands 3 got gameplay shown Everspace 2 The Witcher 3 Complete Edition for Switch was announced FIFA 20 Volta Street which I never got to play

I was actually very excited about that but I forgot that was happening disintegration guilt Oh they misspelled it So yeah guilt for Google Stadia That one game Destiny 2 Shadow Keep

And then like the list kind of goes on With a few other things Anno Erica which was like a shadow dropped that day Port Royale 4 Iron Harvest and then, yeah, the Hideo-Kujima big long section on Death Stranding that showed the gameplay and stuff.

I legit forgot to you mentioned it right now. They have their connect literally this month, don't they? Yeah, don't forget. Yeah, the connect's coming right up. It's next week on 14th, 10 a.m. We'll be live, Twitch.tv.comf the games. Yeah, I mean, it's okay. You listen to those games, like, that's not very exciting,

but that was their first one. Are you listening? That sucks. but it's like yeah exactly um but like looking at this year especially with it being summer game and the way that they've talked about from the beginning i do kind of expect at least one or two things that make you go oh shit that's cool in a similar way to game awards where i feel like over the last couple years they've gotten better like since he's gained since keely's gained independence of game awards and how he's dealt with it like he's gotten bigger and bigger announcements

and i think that having like that second year round thing where it's like i mean not exactly in the halfway point, but especially now in a year where E3 doesn't exist. Like, I do think that I expect more from this year than I did last year by a big. I hope that there's surprises and stuff like you're talking about, but it's just a different year, I feel, especially as it's been so drawn out, this whole, not E3, E3, where there's so, you know, multiple, apparently state of plays,

multiple Xbox showcases in one that wasn't a showcase. Like, there's so many things going on that there's only so much thing to go. So I see this season finale, Jeff, talking about having announcements, having brand new things, more of the mid-tier double A variety. And then the major parties coming and doing extended looks, like going more the way of Death Stranding, right? And being like, cool, you know, we, you know, it's Jeff talking. It's like, you know, how, you know, back in June, you got to see Spider-Man, or is July, no, June. Miles Morales debuted. We're going to show you the first

three minutes of the first mission or some shit like that kind of thing. You have that and then something from Halo Infinite and then hopefully you have announcements in there but I don't know if there, I don't think it's in PlayStation or Xbox's best interest to hold big announcements for that thing in that way. I also forgot

that there was a game called remothered broken porcelain that was shown off at gamescom and so you know there were some very exciting announcements. Exactly. If Silent Hill is real, gamescom would be a good place to show it. And that's big.

Like that's what I'm talking about. I'm not saying that it's going to have hell of big announcements, but it just needs one thing that makes you go, oh shit, that's where this was announced. Sure. Gamescom opening night live needs a moment where it's like, oh, fuck.

Like big announcements can happen there. Last of Us was announced at Game Awards. Like that's, that was a moment that forever changed where Game Awards could be. And they've proven time and time again that they can continue that level of, oh shit. They've messed up a couple times. Cranky Kong, one of those examples.

But hey, they made a lot of good moves. I think that they need that for opening night live. And if Jeff's exclusive shows so far have only been Tony Hawk and Crash Band, cute granted two Activision titles that are multi-pliant a little bit different, I think that with the way that he's been hyping up, and he's been pretty good about hyping things correctly. When we look at all the different stakeholders in this non-E3, I think that Jeff is the one that has been the best about explaining what is about to happen.

And so far, he's been like, look, we're getting something cool and it was Tony Hawk. We're getting something cool. It was Crash Bandicoot. We're getting something that is going to change games and it was Unreal 5. Right? Like those are things that I give him more ownership of than anyone else. And the last thing that he has like full ownership of is this where he's been calling it a season finale. And that's a big deal.

That is building hype in a way that is in. just like, this is kind of cool. Do you think that he will get a Breath of the Wild 2 trailer? He has gotten a lot of Wild Wilder's before. That's a good point. That's a good one. See, and that's all he needs. If he has one

like that, right? Of like, here's a whole bunch of recap as we head into this console war. Here's what's, you know, Xbox and PlayStation want to show you. Here's some new Indies. Here's this new thing from an established AA. And then you had to end it. Here's Breath of Wild 2. Oh my God. I didn't even think about it. Yeah, of course. It's Nintendo. Because it was like three years.

I'm running. It's happening. It's like a trailer, a gameplay thing, and then DLC the next year. Yeah. I love it. My thing is, I feel like that's something you might want to hold for game awards. If you're Jeff, like, if you're Jeff Keely and you're able to, you know, make that call of, okay, yeah, I can choose this announcement for one. I feel like that's one where you'd be like, all right, this is the game awards.

What if the game was out before game awards? The game's not coming out before game. Well, I was going to have the opposite interaction, like, what if there's no game awards? because like who know? Like do you just have there's a stream that just yeah. Yeah. Do you think I'll do that? Yeah. I think that no matter what there's game words and I think yeah,

worst case scenario, it's Jeff on Green or Jeff from home doing it or bring back to VGXs. He has messages from the developers who won and then Churches plays in his backyard. Joe McHale's in there. Joe McHale there was invited here. Anyways, though, I think I think you can blow your wadet here. I think you can go in season finale in August and have something. as big as Breath of Wild too

because by the time, knock on fucking wood, we get to where game words would be in December. There will have been not silence in terms of announcements, but it'll have just been this next gen, it'll be the next gen war, and it'll be the war of just every other trying to get your game out by Black Friday.

People generally don't announce shit during those time periods, right, because they're building up to getting the thing sold and then you can go to December and have it be the first salvo in all right, now let's talk about what's coming in 2021. I wouldn't be, perhaps. I honestly like I would put money not a lot of money but I would put some amount of money three dollars Greg three dollar bet right now the game awards gets pushed to January or February of next year. Oh I think it'd be I think January would be the goal because like I don't think Jeff's trying to fuck with the GDC and dice and all that those awards like he respects that they exist and I think that he wants other award shows to be there but I think that with all the feedback people have seen with cyberpunk getting delayed and just the understanding.

that if game awards is going to be first week of December, there has to be a cutoff point that's realistic. And that means that cyberpunk's not going to make the cut. And it's so many of these these game launches aren't going to make the cut. And I know that's been the truth for other generations and other years and other games, but I think that it's different now. And there's more control of ownership of we can do this whenever the fuck we want. Why are we holding it to this?

And sure games die after the second week of December. So it's like there is that thing of it is, it is a nice reset point from a PR standpoint. But things are different. Everything's changed in the last couple years. Everything's changed again this year. So I think I'm with you that you move it, but I think you keep it to December. I don't think Jeff wants to, you know, Jeff knows how to market his stuff and knows how to make an event.

And he knows that people are looking forward to game awards. And we look forward to game words in December. I think you could let it slip later in December and not have people be like, where's game awards? Like they would understand it's coming. And hey, you can you can message it around. Like, we've heard you loud and clear. You know, it was a big deal for Fallen Order last year that it didn't. didn't get, you know, the right, it didn't come in for nominations and yada,

yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've addressed that. And this year, we're pushing it to mid-December, right, that the last week before everybody goes on break, even though who knows what, we'll have any breaks this year. Like, I don't think he wants to let that go. And I also think there's part of it wrapped up in the fact that, you know, even though, yeah, there's Dice and there's GDC Awards, right? Like, when we come back from break and it's the new year, you want to talk about the new stuff. That's how it inevitably goes, right? And that was always the struggle at IGN when we're doing game of the year. there when do you do it where we want to do it in the year we're in because that's the conversation

everybody's having but it doesn't give you a lot of time to play but then you play and come back and there's less fanfare around it because now you are as soon as we come back it starts spinning up again of what's going to happen this year and what's happening in the spring but they've all moved IGN's moved i've no idea where they are now i don't know if i remember correctly they've moved to january and i think that that's the thing of just kind of taking ownership and of things changing and i think that with jesse now yeah right is that well is that for this coming year or was that this last year? Because I could have been the last year was December. I might be wrong. I might be wrong. But like I remember that there was

at least some of the big guys kind of pushed to at least way. It's like they published in this is always hard. Sorry, but it looks like it published on December 10th, 2019. That might that might be updated January 13th. So yeah, I don't know what that means. Maybe it was nominations and then like I think they rolled games out. I don't know. But my point is I think things have changed especially this year with Summer Game Fest being the replacement for E3, where E3 was one week, Summer Game Fest is ending in August. Having a big event in December is a lot closer and there's not as much kind of room for announcements and shit.

I think that we're in a new world where it's not exciting to know what's coming next year. It's exciting to know what's coming this year. I don't know what we're going to be here next year. Just show me what's in 2020. All that's true, but it's like I just think that if they were to go in January, like let's look back at the actual full year of 2020. 2020 of the games that came out that year. Like any,

any game that came out from January 1st to December 31st, but in addition to, I guess, from November from the last year, because there was that one month and a half gap or whatever from November 16th, because the cutoff from last year. But then move forward, do the awards for that. That's still going to be exciting to people because 2020 was,

is such a big year for games. And then, hey, here's new announcements. Here's some hype. Yeah. I think if you're going to do it this year would be the perfect excuse to do it with the event probably going to be a stream.

even a digital event. Like, you don't have to necessarily plan and organize for people showing up and for facilities and all this different stuff. Like, you have the flexibility to be like, hey, yeah, let's just do this in January because we're just, we're organizing this by ourselves. And so I think if it's going to happen, it's going to happen this year. But I don't know how much the weight of games coming out late in the year has on Jeff Keeley.

Because I feel like a big part of Game Awards is like advertisements and, is sponsorships and is like announcements. And I feel like that stuff kind of takes precedence over the actual awards themselves as much as like that doesn't feel right. Has been used in Game Fest this year. It's like that's all stuff that like the longer you can kind of separate and have the same sponsors come back again. Like that's where the money is.

It's like getting the same guys that are sponsoring Game Fest right now to come back in December is going to be a tall order. And I know January that's why that fall away, that far away. I mean, first off, for the record, I looked it up and finally found it out here. December 10th, 2019, IGN announced control its game of the year. So they went even earlier than usual. But piggybacking off what you're saying, I wonder if you get creative about it and you put up,

you have it be, you know, summer game fest, right, but it's game awards month or whatever. Where, yeah, okay, cool. We're worried about like, we're worried about this, you know, cyberpunk. We're worried about cyberpunk getting in there. So we'll start with fighting game of the year. we'll do racing game of the year. Every, you know, every Tuesday and Thursday for the month, we're putting out three award categories and having them win

until we build to game of the year, that third week or whatever. That would be actually like a really crazy idea, like a cool crazy idea if there is Jeff was just like, yeah, let's just do Winter Game Fest. Spread out all the announcements. You spread out all the announcements with it. You, you know, you bundle every two, the three awards with two announcements.

You have a whole bunch of different sponsors in there, all these different things. Yeah, just make it laugh. I can't be the summer again. Yeah. It just never ends. I love to see it. Who do we have to talk to

to get Blessing as a trending game of the year this year? They did away with the category because it was problematic. Here's my thing, though,

guys, speaking of that. And again, what is street personality or something now? They have a new one. Is there one that I qualify for

that I can qualify? Yeah, because I'm not a streamer. Bless. I'm not a streamer. I'm not an e-sports player. I'm committed, committed to getting you

Forbes 30 under 30. Oh, oh, God. What do I need to do to make that happen? We got to make it happen. It was something that I have only four years. I started scheming four years.

That is more than enough. Content creator of the year. Content creator of the year. Yeah, we could do that. Okay. I could do that. I was trying to get you to be Forbes 30 or 30 before you were even part of it kind of funny. I was already thinking about it.

Well, I was like, oh, man. We've got to get on this. We've got to make it happen. So now that you're part of us, it's like, oh, now we have to make it happen. Let's go, man. I'm ready. If you get him both, if you can get him trending gamer and 30 under 30, that like

contact creator and Greg don't don't don't loop me in with those trending gaming right

I don't want to be amongst that doctor disrespect and Greg Miller just me in the middle ladies and gentlemen

this has been kind of funny games cast thank you very much are you forgetting a segment oh no because we're still

piloting this bless we're about to move on to week two of Blessings game show which is called Blessings

too and it's fantastic last week we had the demo run this week we're having i'm going to call it like the the beta right we're going to get into this and we're just going to like see how it goes and then next week if you're ready bless i want to debut it on the real show well well maybe not next week is next thing okay well next time it's it's the normal cast of games cast whatever that's when i want to reveal it as a a full-on thing where it's it's leaving it's leaving alpha it's leaving beta it's going into just full-on release. But if you don't like it, we might put it back into beta.

Yeah, it's a dumb story of the year. It might be worth. But we had a lot of fun last week. So we're going to get to that if you are a Patreon.com slash kind of funny games supporter at the silver level level. Silver? Is that right?

Greg? Silver level or. Blessing is the only person who says it. So I don't know. Bronze members or above get show ad free. Silver members or above get something. I don't know, man. They get to ask questions.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how it goes. Until next. time.