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Episode Date: October 22, 2025

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What's up everybody? Welcome to the kind of funny games cast for Wednesday, October 22nd, 2025. Blast through the Outer Worlds 2 in style with an exclusive skin for your Raptadon in-game pet, brought to you by five-hour energy. When you purchase a Purpleberry Punch or Mock Melon Brew 5-hour Energy product, you'll receive a unique code to unlock exclusive the Outer Worlds 2 in-game content. We'll tell you about that later. For now, I'm Greg Miller alongside Forbes 30. Under 30, AKA New York Game Awards nominated, AKA garlic sauce coffee. Blessing.

Eddie, oh, yeah, Jr. Have you had the little Lucas garlic sauce? I have had the Little Lucas garlic sauce. It's their secret ingredient. I'm right there with you. Yeah. If you don't know everybody, Little Luca, dynamite sandwich here in the Bay Area.

My favorite. Yeah? I guess if I'm not counting Hot Boys chicken sandwiches. Yeah? You know what? I guess that technically is a sandwich. So I'll say my second favorite. But like this is like a deli.

This is like you're getting. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I would go, I like Irving subs. Irving sub. Yeah. So here's my thing though. Mouth's watering. Yeah.

It's, I'm right there with you that a little Lucas sandwich is messy. Yeah. Whereas an Irving sub is like a sub. Like, and it's also a conversation will fall up later this week of like, I'm ordering what I'm ordering. So like,

you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I'm getting a not messy sub. I guess I could probably get a not messy sub from Little Luca, but I always feel like it's a wetter sandwich. And you don't like the witness? Oh,

I do. I just have to be in a mood for that. Like you're saying, you, you have to smell like garlic. like you're gross after we have to be ready for what the rest of the day entails. Yeah. Yeah.

You're going to smell like garlic. You're going to feel like your hands are oily no matter what. You can wash your hands. You feel heavy. You can wash your hands. You're still going to feel oily for the rest of the day. It like it goes into your sweat, I think. I don't know what happens to be after eight little Luca,

but it does take over. In the live chat, T. T.L. sharpshooter says, dude, I'm having hot boys for breakfast right now. And that's the breakfast of fucking champions right there.

The world's famous hot boys. I like that quite a bit. I'm so jealous right now. Yeah. How are you doing? Are you hanging in there? I'm hanging in there. You had a great games daily with Andy.

Love to listening in on that one. Thank you, thank you. I fell back because I made him do a lot of reading. Yeah, and he was struggling. You toss that more with the defense and go. It was one of those news days. It was a big news day. Shout out Serban.

Serban continuing to fun kind of funny games daily headlines out there, of course. And they're doing well. These episodes are doing well whenever Seribon speaks. Well, I'm sick of talking about Xbox blessing. And that's one of the reasons we thought this would be a good games cast to do. Because if you didn't know each and every week to end a variety of plays, platforms we come to you with the Kind of Funny Gamescast talking about the biggest topics in gaming. Whether they be reviews, previews, or just topics we need to talk about them.

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rogers the one who changed everything he did he really changed he got one uh one what they call the thing that you walk onto the gym a cane a treadmill treadmill thank you you get one creddmill sudden the streaming culture in the solvian you know what i mean i hear right now they're getting handcuffed to a raptor uh if you're a kind of funny member today's greggway so far is five minutes on marvel cosmic's invasions release date then a headache stopped me in my tracks then i had to prep this show and do a few other work well you're going to get the other half of a greggway somewhere in there who knows what it'll be by the time we get to but we're going to do it and it'll be fun thank to our patreon producer carl jacobosombollah and delaney the somtwining today we are of course are

brought to you by five hour energy and everything i was talking about but what's tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show. Blessing. It has been 538 days since our last episode of PSI Love You XOXO. When we bid that weekly PlayStation podcast to do and instead moved to the games cast being a day by day, topic by topic adventure, we would all go on together with the biggest news

in the industry. And we've had a lot of different plans. We like to tell you how the sausage gets made here. Yeah. We love talking. about how the sausage gets made. We have had, in the same version you might have heard before, hey, there's this, what happened to Ubisoft?

You're talking about on Games Daily today. This game's cast about what happened to Ubisoft, yada, yada, yada. That's been kicked down the road. In the last three, four weeks, we've had a, hey, let's do a ghost of Yote's spoiler cast that has just been beat the shit. It's, hey, it's going to be me, Roger,

and bless, hey, we'll do part of it with a developer, and then we'll do part of it, this is kind of funny. Well, I'm gone all the time for Ben's stuff, and then assignments, and then you're gone, and then Roger's gone, And okay, well, we're all to go.

We'll do it in two minutes. All right, we got the developer booked. All right, the developer's sick. Then it was like, all right, we are far enough and the juice isn't even there yet. No one is excited about that. So today was originally going to be one of the dates for the ghost of Yote's spoiler cast. But Roger missed it.

He was going to be out today. So I was like, you know what? We're killing that one. That one's been put out to pasture. We're done with that. Okay, it's over. It's over. But if it's just blessing Greg on a podcast, what do we do?

Is it going to, the shit list is you and Tim's thing. You know what I mean? I can't get in there. sometimes, Andy, whatever. Why not come back and talk about PlayStation? Because frankly, bless, I'm sick of talking about Xbox all the time. I feel you. What the hell is going on in this world where Xbox is in the headlines every day?

Never for good reasons. You know the reason is because they actually talk. PlayStation gives us nothing. PlayStation, they don't do interviews. They don't speak. Like, if they talk, it's when Mark Surny for like five seconds wants to tell us that he's like... Hey, we have an AMD processor chip. We have an AMD processor chip that's going to be the next 10 PS5.

that's awesome. So we talk about that, but it's like, there's only so much I can say about an AMD processor and a PS, in a PlayStation 6. Yeah.

And so. So then blessing 538 days removed since PSI love you XO XOXO's final episode. And almost all the way through 2025 now, I want to ask you, how are you feeling about PlayStation today? Today as in like 2025 or just in that? I want you to interpret the question how as you want to.

I think we're to do a lot of 2025 and a lot of looking forward and stuff like that. But I feel like we're on cruise control. Yeah. in a way that doesn't feel in a way that doesn't feel bad whatsoever, but also in a way that doesn't feel like, oh, we're in the best time

to play games on PlayStation or whatever, right? Like, we might be, but it's not, it's not the thing where I'm like excited. I guess I'm excited for next year. I'm sure we'll talk about that later in the episode, but I'm excited for what's coming. I'm excited for Wolverine. I'm excited for Soros, you know,

but like I think this year feels like such a, all right, we did it again, you know what I mean? We put out Descating 2. We put out, Los Soliside, don't forget. Oh yeah, Las Soul aside. which was, that was a dud. But like, it's kind of been like just a fine year, I'd say overall for places, fine to good.

Yeah. Fine to good. Because the games are good. Yeah. For the most part. But what about you? How do you feel about PlayStation right now? I mean, I think it's more of a question overall.

Yeah, the games are good. Everything's fine. Again, it's, it's going to be a weird conversation to have because PlayStation is doing so well, obviously. I love my PlayStation 5. It does what it does incredibly well. And I like that experience out of it, blah, blah, blah. it's more the fact that, and this is me being an old head,

this is me being someone who for nearly 20 years now is covered PlayStation. I guess that's not true really when you think about it, but eight years at IGN being the PlayStation team, then for sure doing PSI love you for so long in two spurts and all this different stuff. But PlayStation and Greg Miller have been synonymous for a long time. And so I am not talking about the quality of the products,

the games, or anything to that point. But in a lot of ways, I sit here and I don't, for me not the quality of the games and the products PlayStation has lost the sauce like I don't feel that connection to PlayStation anymore which I think of course it's not my beat so I'm not a part of it

on that level where I'm talking and blah blah but to your point they don't talk yeah the fact that PSX is gone that there's just no I feel like for me PlayStation is just devoid of a personality now and I don't mean that as a person because of course you could look at

say to play and talk talk about Sid, you could talk about Sean. People I know incredibly well. Yeah. I know so many people with PlayStation there. But I mean like, what is the fan culture of PlayStation? That's what I'm talking about. We had a, like, and I, this is definitely, we lived it.

We had a, we, even when you weren't in the industry, you were there for this PlayStation. I mean, I went to PSX, 2017. They, PSX, and we're making videos. And here's how you share the game and you got Jack Trent, you got Kevin Butler. Yeah. It's like, ah, like, this is fucking fun. And I think there was also the levels of, I mean, we're talking about them talking, talking, not talking, right?

Shuhay Yoshida, evangelizing these indie games. Yeah, 100%. You know, you identify with PlayStation via the God of Wars and the Spider-Man and stuff, but then also there's the chickeries, right?

There's like, the concrete genies. There's like a, I think, a tiering of games where it is, man, all of it feels like, stray, you know, even Seafood was a PlayStation exclusive

when it launched on console, right? Like, there was, I think, a culture around the games that were coming to PlayStation, that felt like they had the PlayStation identity plus all the things that you're talking about with PSX and everything that

led to a culture around it where even for me online I see more Xbox talk on my algorithms than I see PlayStation talk right like I see and you gotta imagine PlayStation's so happy with that. Oh yeah. This is what they wanted

when they started getting everybody to stop talking and they became a walled garden and they became just a tower and maybe Herman comes out occasionally and says two words. In a way I think it's preferred right? When I see the Xbox talk usually people are mad

and so like do you want And then six months from now yeah people are mad because they're referencing what Xbox said, and now they're changing the course and not doing it. When I see PlayStation talk on my algorithm, it's usually, ah, Ghost of Yote came out, and it's the greatest game of all time.

And I'm kind of like, all right, cool. Great job yesterday, by the way, shutting somebody down on the Super Chat comment. Oh, my God. Reviewers are, our dog, and on Ghosts deutte are like, are you and Amy? We were both like, are they? Barrel was like, are they?

No, the Metacritics, I don't know. The Metacritics 86. Like, it's doing pretty well. God, but yeah, I don't know. Like, I think I hear what you're talking, what you're saying, because I didn't want to lead off by saying this, right? Because I don't want to appear as negative.

But I do think that there is a level of, yeah, PlayStation is kind of boring right now. I think that's, I think that is impossible to deny. PlayStation is kind of boring. I don't take it or even say it as an insult. I think that it is what's right for business, clearly. I think it's gotten them to where they are. It's gotten them to where, you know, this is a back and forth, you know, Tim always gets involved with right of like,

what's the PlayStation 5 generation been? Is it been a flop? Has it been this? But, like, I don't think they have the cadence of exclusives that, like, the PlayStation 3 generation did or even PlayStation 4 did. But it hasn't mattered because they've been slow, steady. The games they do put out are generally great. Yeah. Or, you know, are well received and served this audience.

And again, they've won the war that we always talk about when we talk about Xbox and Phil Spencer saying they lost the worst generation to lose. They have the audience. Somebody in the chat, it's gone now and said, you know, PlayStation is just the, is mainstream now. And that's the thing, right? They are the, you want a TV, you buy the new TV and you want to play Madden called duty, whatever. The mainstream game is, you buy a PlayStation alongside it and put it there and you play that. And that's great. That's not bad.

I'm not sitting here going, uh, well, that sucks. I'm just like, in terms of not having talked about PlayStation specifically and given PlayStation the room to be criticized isn't even the right word. Again, they're doing the right things here. Like I, we're coming. We talk all the time. Uh-huh. How many goddamn layoff stories

and did you talk about today on games day? Oh, and restructurings and what's happening at massive and so on and so forth, right? Like, that is coming from people constantly going in and trying to figure out how to pivot what to do, how to do it. And like, don't get me wrong.

PlayStation. Oh, we talk about what's going to happen with fair games. We can talk about Marathon. We can talk about, uh, Concord. Thank you.

The game I can't even remember because they went. Like, all of these things are wrapped up in that conversation. but for the most part PlayStation is quiet, slow, steady, puts their games out, isn't doing this crazy thing. Our games are everywhere. They are on PC eventually. But aren't, we're trying to do this.

We're trying to get you on the cloud. Everything's a PlayStation. No, this fucking box is a PlayStation. Buy this very expensive box if you want to do that. If you need a fancier box, you can go look at a PC. And now, if we're going to talk about 2024, I want to, I should have done more. I guess I was on KHD before this, so I didn't have the time. But like, if I could have done more, I guess, research, I would have liked to,

compare and contrast the years of the PS5 because I do feel like 2024 is a weaker year. I feel like 2024. I know Ghost of Yote and Death Rating 2 are the big ones. But you're talking about 2024. Sorry, not 2024. 2025. Okay. Yeah. So the year that we're

in right now, I feel like it's been one of the weaker ones. Really? Yeah. Last year what are we talking? We had Astrobot, of course. Come on. Last year you had Astrois. You had Final Fane's 7 rebirth. What do you mean? It didn't do it for me. So I'm not, I'm happier having Deaths Trading and Ghosts. And then Hell Divers too, last year, right? Yes, I did on my 2025 recap here, put Helldivers 2

coming to Xbox. You can, like, we're talking about PlayStation and what they did this year. Was Concord last year? It was Concord the year before? Concord was last year. No. Yeah. No. Yeah. Okay. Because I was going to bring in the,

I think, Destraining 2 and Goseiote have been the big wins, but you also, we got to talk about Las Soliside and Marathon. I don't Marathon's not out yet, but like I think that's a problem. At the beginning, The beginning. Marathon's less of a problem than Concord.

That was last year, so there, boom. And of course, last year had Rise of the Rodin as they're calling out, Stellar Blade. Oh, yeah. Oh, stiller blade was last year. Oh, man. Yeah. And so I think we're just talking, this year, I think we're talking about a lower volume of first party stuff. Oh, for sure.

And then the first party of stuff that's come out, like Osiote has been great. And then Deserating 2 has been great. But I feel like, I don't know, I just feel like volume-wise, it's been quieter this year. I guess that's my whole argument. And that's what gets hard about the arguments. again is that we feel that way. You know, I feel that way, and I saw right over here on the chat.

It's already gone. You guys are talking today. Talking about this has been the weakest generation for PlayStation in a decade or whatever. Somebody said, like, are we, weakest year in a decade? Whatever I screwed up there. Yeah. It is that idea like, it's because it's just become so boring. Like, no, I don't,

I don't think that's bad, especially as we see the industry in free fall and so many things. But I think for the most part, PlayStation plays it safe. You know what you're going to get when you see Ghost of Yote. We know, for most part, I know what I'm going to get from Wolverine. Not moment to moment. We're going to push here.

But like, that's going to be an insomniac superhero game. That's going to be great. Yeah. Death Stranding. Okay, more weird Kajima shit. Like, that's great. But we aren't seeing the concrete genies right now. You could kind of pull back and look at next year and go, well, Saros.

But Soros, come on as a spiritual successor to what worked so well in. Returnal. Thank you. I can see her face. I'll help me fill in the gap there or whatever. Like, and these aren't bad things. I just don't think that they're crazy different things. But again, then crazy different things, do they move the needle?

But I think they move the needle, I think, is for sure something to talk about. But I think they add flavoring in a way that makes being in the ecosystem exciting. Because when I look at next year compared to this year, yeah, you're talking about Soros and Wolverine, which I think are the main ones. But then you're also talking about Marvel Tokon Fighting Souls, which I think does so much for the PlayStation Library. and I can talk about how much they've leaned into fighting games but even when you're just talking about

the kind of game that it is. It is a Marvel game. It is a Marvel game that is essentially the return of a Marvel versus Capcom type experience coming from Arc SystemWorks. That's gonna make waves, right? I'm not saying that's gonna sell

comparatively to Wolverine by means, but it's gonna do really well and also it's gonna, I think, give people another reason to be like, oh damn, all right, that's another notch. Like that's another win right there that I think is giving us more flavoring than like the typical

first party stuff. And it's weird because I don't want to act like Destraining 2 is the most typical thing because it's one of the weirdest We're working! But I I think every year I expect to get two or three PlayStation first party games. For me, I'm like, what are you doing for me in between? That's really coloring in the experience of

oh man, all right, PlayStation's still here. You bring up this interesting thought though of ecosystem, which I think speaks then to PlayStation fandom, right? And I just don't think granted, I'm in such a different place of living that PlayStation 3 era where the PlayStation Famstom basis eating shit constantly.

PlayStation 4 winning constantly. Like, I do wonder in the world we live in in the existence of this fractured attention economy, how many people glom on to being a PlayStation gamer

in the same way? I just feel like that I get. And maybe it's my own shifts in my own life and all these different things, but with fewer exclusives and fewer things reaching out to be like, hey, thank you for being part of the PlayStation community. It just feels like that's been eroded.

And again, I don't think it's bad. But I also think PlayStation is going, are we worried about diversifying the ecosystem when we're going to get third-party games to come into this game to fill in those gaps? We're going to get indies. I say that because they don't always get them, right? But again, do they really care?

We talk about the 16% from Matt Piscitella at Circana talking about these are the people who make games go and buy so many different games. There's a weird calculus, I feel like, going on at PlayStation, where they're sitting there going less is more. We should, we don't need to invest in the crazy thing. And again, we're still seeing the ripples and the ramifications from this. Jim Ryan, let's do all these live services.

We got 12 live service. Oh, you know what I mean? Like, and that went, so it will be interesting to see. And I know this sounds crazy. Three to five years what the lineups of first party PlayStation exclusives look like. But again, with them fumbling the way they did with that initiative, but still winning the way they're winning right now they have to be going like whoa hold up a second

how much money do we really need to spend to keep this going what do you think that what do you think the reaction of that from them ends up being right like what are the learnings from PlayStation that then carry on into how they continue to operate I think they continue to be slow and steady I think you don't get that

this is where it gets weird because what are we talking about anymore with console life cycle and console generations and what does that actually mean I think games that must have been playing here for the back half of PS5, well, like, what can we do to make it a PS6 game? And this gets so hard to talk about, because we don't know what the PlayStation 6 will be.

Is it just an iterative, more powerful PlayStation 5? Is it backwards compatible in a way that, like, we're still doing two versions? Are we doing, you're just buying a PlayStation game and it runs on both, like, that's where I don't want to get, but I think, like, you're talking about, like, PlayStation 6 exclusives? Yeah, okay.

Do those exist at launch? Do those exist? I, dude, I think they're going to be so traditional on the way they do it. Like I think it's going to look exactly like that transition from PS4 to PS5. So we'll be getting Bugs Next PS4 and Bugs next PS5. I think we're going to get that,

but I think we'll get one or two PlayStation 6 exclusives. I think there's a bet I'll make. I think Fisint is going to be a PS6 exclusive. Oh yeah. I think that'll launch in the first year or two of the PlayStation 6 and I think that'll just be PS6. But then you're also going to get whatever Insomnia game

is going to be for both or whatever like other quote unquote PlayStation exclusives that are going to be on both PS4 or PS5, PS6. But you're going to have one or two key, like these are the needle movers for us to make people make that jump because I think you always need, at least for how they're operating

now where they're in that weird middle space between a Nintendo and an Xbox right? I think you still need those console exclusives to make people make that jump. Otherwise I think you then commit to being generationalists.

And I don't think that's their move. I don't think that's their move, yeah. They're finding so much. I think they're going to look more like Nintendo in that regard. Yeah. How did you think like it's funny to come off of this games daily right today talking about Sarah Bond being like the next Xbox is going to be premium do you think that that's going to be

if I'm PlayStation right now and I hear that and they probably knew it already but or whatever but if I hear that I'm sitting like oh my God yes because PlayStation I assume is going to be another box that is 500 $600 tariffs whatever we're at right I think it would be more but I think but I think it's going to be

I think it's just based off of tariffs in world economics of PlayStation 6 coming in at $700 and them and us just having to make peace with If you think that's, what do you think Xbox would be then For a premium Xbox? A thousand dollars. Okay, okay.

I think that's what we're talking about. I mean, I think I agree with you, that's where my mind would go, right? $999 US. And so if that's, if I, PlayStation, I'm thinking, how can we get this thing down to 600 top, $5.99 top? I just don't know if that's possible with parts and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because you have to make the PS6 more powerful than PS5.

I don't know what the the features are I guess the features might just be the AI evolution or whatever in like the partnership with a Oh

Not like Xbox is the AI evolution Well no PlayStation God But like in the way of like DLSS I'm not talking general Oh okay good Yeah I think where I think when they're talking about

What the next PlayStation is It's gonna be doubled It's gonna be doubling down on All right You see the pisser This is now I don't think it'll be PSSR right

And this is a kind of funny com slash you're wrong Even though we're on game I'll throw up in you're wrong Yeah of they're now partnering. It was AMD that Mark Serny announced it with. So I think it's going to be more of AMD's

AI innovations that you're going to see on the PlayStation side. So whatever they call that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I think that'll be the big thing. And then a lot of the features, whatever rate tracing, whatever thing they want to talk about there, will be framed around that.

That's my guess. And I think when we're talking about that, maybe they're able to get the price down because a lot of the technical visual improvements are, yeah, happening via the AI. AMD is FSR. FSR.

Thank you, thank you, chat. Maybe that helps with the price, but I'd also think that maybe that actually makes the price more.

So that's where I come down on $700 because I'm just expecting now with any hardware, like any hardware that's coming out, I'm just putting $100 to $200 more. On the price set. Yeah, we're going to eat it.

It's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's going to have to go that way. I want to get some super chats in here. You all have been talking about. Remember YouTube.com slash Kind of Funny Games to be part of our ongoing discussion. Mike wrote it.

and said, 2025 PlayStation is like that best friend that moves away and you still kind of keep in touch, but you're not having those same kind of moments

like the good old days. That's too real. I feel like that. That's too real. I don't like that. But yeah, that's 100% what I feel like. And again,

I am not knocking this. I'm just having an honest conversation about it. Like, I think it works for PlayStation. It's just been interesting to see it move around. Yeah, I'll ask you a question.

Sure. Because we've talked a lot about how now you're gaming in all these different places, right? Is there, when you buy When you get a new game or you're getting a code for a game to review,

do you still get PlayStation codes? Or is there a reason why you would ask for a PlayStation code over any other platform? There's reasons. Yeah, this is a thing that I do. I think most of the time, you know, to pull our curtain back again, when you get approached for a game code here, and this is maybe too broad a brush, but it does happen often.

Usually it's, we have PC codes ready to go. Usually when somebody hits you up and say, hey, do you want a review code? We have PC now. Often it's followed up by consoles at a later date, closer to launch yada yada yada because of course it's easier for steam to generate codes and give them out apparently than it is for playstation xbox and switch especially to actually go do it so that factors in and then it becomes also a little bit of like well what is the next what do the next few weeks look like for me am i on the road am i having to do this thing am i going to have time to

go down and sit at the big tv where i want to be parked in front of it but even that's going away kevin can you throw up the hyperlink i have in the dock for gregg's trophies this year i've had this feeling. We of course did a games cast last week where I apologized to PC gamers and ran through hey, you know, I've been doing more and more obviously and I've been doing it since I started really hardcore using the Rog ally at the beginning of the year, but

especially now with the Razor Blade 16, especially now with this Xbox one. This is very much napkin math. So this isn't 100% accurate. But I ran back and October, so 2025, January to October

for 20, I'm sorry, let me I'm going to try it again. January to October, 24, looking at last year, right? I had done 46 trophy lists on my PlayStation so far. Again, is that entirely accurate? No, you figure if I got a new trophy in a game I played during that period, it would pop up in 2025. Obviously, there's a little bit of wet there. I'm not cutting out of the same date yet, yeah, yeah. So 46 games last year for a similar time period.

This year for 2025 so far, only 36. So 11 less there. And what I think is disturbing, if you scroll slowly here, Kevin, what you actually see is my son. Lego Star Wars, Sonic Cross Worlds, Rocket League, Hot Wheels. Like, these aren't games I'm actually starting on my PlayStation. It's that Ben wants to play Sonic Shadow Generations and we go and play this, right? We want to try Minecraft.

We throw on Minecraft. So this has been a year of, I have the ally. I have Xbox Play Anywhere. I'm playing those games somewhere else. I'm using GamePatch. right like again for this year where hey we're popping up and for the gnom guard why not making another account the omega nerd the omega nerd why not make another account sir i have like three thousand PlayStation games on my PSN i'm not i'm not making a family also ben never

wants to do the story spider man he wants to jump in and he wants to swing he's tried to start a new game the other day and he's like can you help me and i'm like i'm like just go and swing and might save. He wants to go and do that stuff. He wants everything unlocked. He's not that much of a kid yet, right? Um, anyways, the convenience of having all the games installed locally on the gaming PC, the convenience of, all right, cool, I'm on the road playing it on this, uh, ROG ally or now the Razor Blade. Well, actually, no, that changes again. Playing it on the rock and then I want to come home and I want to throw it up on the TV. I can do Xbox play anywhere. Now having the Razor Blade 16, uh, that I love this gaming laptop, that when it runs,

unreleased borderlands and unreleased redacted. It sounds like a jet engine, but I can put up with it. I can just plug the HDMI in there, right? Like what I said last week in my PC gaming games cast is still here where it's like, I always went to consoles because they were convenient. I wanted to turn them on and I wanted them to work and I wanted to play my games.

I didn't want to worry about my driver. I didn't want to worry about this. Why isn't this compatible? Da-da-da-da-da. For the most part, PC gaming's figured that out, at least with the, I'm a stupid moron who's buying or getting sent for review Razorblade 16 Rog ally X hey they just work and they're they're top of the line right now so I'm not worried

about anything they're doing what I want and then it's now the convenience of I want the game with me all the time I can't you've listened to me a long time you've heard these ridiculous fucking stories of me dragging PlayStation 4s and second screens onto planes and having them rigged up like it was the same thing with the Xbox series in the X screen of like, I want to play my real game that I'm reviewing on the airplane. And the inability to do that has always been such a pain in my ass, to do it on the road, to do it on the couch. Oh, well, there's remote play.

And I love my PlayStation portal. I think most of the stuff you see there, I'm probably putting the most of the time in, personally on the portal before I go downstairs to do it or in bed or whatever. There's still that thing. There's still that latency. There's still that thing of me playing skate and being like, ah, this challenge is just too tricky for me to do on the portal. Yeah.

And then what happens? We live in an age of fucking convenience where my skate account isn't tied to my PlayStation. It's tied to my skate. So of course, when my Rog ally can run skate, I'm there doing that. I'm playing on the ally hand help. Wait, is cross save? Cross save, brother.

No way. Skate is? Yeah, you have your EA account or your skate account or whatever it is. You can play it wherever it is. So it's installed in everyone on my device. If I knew this the whole time, I'd be playing so much more skate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, that's good to know. Yeah, it's just like Fortnite and all that shit where it's like, you know,

you buy something on the battle pass over there and it's over there. you got it all set to go. Oh, hell yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, like, that's my thing of, like, it's been fascinating in 2025 to see the scales finally flip here, where it is, the convenience for me has always been why I go to console,

but the PC, in general, handheld thing is so convenient. Yeah. And what I want to do that it's just there. So I think that answer actually flows nicely into my answer, but then also what I think PlayStation could do, and this is going to be the speculation, right? of like where PlayStation might go

that might bring me back around. Because I think I'm in a lot of ways similar to you as far as it really just comes down to how do I want to play in my convenience factor. I've been requesting a lot more PC codes lately because of the Steam deck. And because my home setup now, I now have a 4080 in my tower.

And it's the same like setup that I play my PlayStation 5 at, right? So literally I'm playing off the same monitor for both these things. But then the Steam deck, let's play it on the go. I've kind of given up on my portal. Oh, wow. Well, I guess it doesn't fit your lifestyle. It just doesn't fit my lifestyle.

It's like, you know, I feel like I struggle when it is. All right, one, I don't have a case for the portal for if I'm traveling, but then also when I'm traveling. Why would you take it? Why would I take my portal travel? Exactly. I've heard these stories. Oh, I used it on an airplane.

I used in a hotel Wi-Fi. I'm like, I'm not bringing, I'm not lugging this fragile device, not fragile, but like this device I don't want to, a beautiful device. I don't want to get hurt. I'm not lugging it to the hotel hoping. 1,000%. And that's the thing is that. And then also I feel like it's not going to work on hotel or airplane Wi-Fi half the time the way that I wanted to.

I really feel like I'm having that experience. And so I want to play something natively. I'm not like a cloud streaming person. And so a lot of that lends itself toward the PC stuff. But there's still something about, I think my home experience of playing PlayStation 5 and having, I'm going to speak from a place of privilege here, right? Having the Pulse head headset and my dual sense edge. And like I think there is something to what PlayStation has been trying to build with their whole hardware. like accessory lineup to really make it feel like,

oh, this is something that you can only, this is an experience you can only have on PlayStation. I don't think it's gotten to the place where that's the big, big selling point yet. However, I, for Luminessa Rise,

that game is coming up. Let's fucking go. And I'm going to request that game on PlayStation because of PlayStation VR2, which is a sentence. Oh, nice. Oh yeah. Which is a sentence that like in the last two years.

Who would have thought you'd ever, we'd never thought, you'd talk about PlayStation VR2 positively. Yeah, exactly. I'm in a place. I'm like, oh, I got to play. After I played that demo on Steam, I was like, oh, man, this game's incredible.

Oh, shit, this is going to be in VR. I got to play this game in PSVR, in PSVR, too, which makes me think about the hardware lineup of PlayStation more because I think when we talk about the lacking of personality or whatever, I think for me, a lot of it comes from the swings that just didn't work out. PlayStation VR2 didn't work out. And so now that's the thing that's just like, that's just the thing that exists in my closet that I think would have added a bit to the character of play. PlayStation but just didn't, at least for me, PlayStation VR isn't there, and I'm sure for a lot of people.

I would say the same, oh man, I forgot where I was going to go with that. But yeah, that's essentially one of the things. One of the conversations that we have regarding PlayStation is, and this comes out the portal, is handheld stuff. Are we going to get a PlayStation handheld? Because I think for me, that solves so much of where the steam debt comes in for me and how that works and all that stuff. if PlayStation puts out a native handheld that lets you play like even just I guess older PS5 games or whatever it is I'm gonna be fully into the PlayStation ecosystem

oh I remember I was gonna go which is more so the swings that they miss which gets into the multiplayer stuff that just oh sure sure sure it didn't work out boot points game not coming out uh Ben Studios game not coming out like that type of shit I think has left this gap has left this um kind of like a little bit of a desert even though we're getting some games still anyway coming back around to the handheld thing

I think there is an opportunity there for PlayStation to continue to add to the character of what the PlayStation experience is to bring me back into the ecosystem fully. But I think we just got to get there. And also, where are you at with the PlayStation handheld? Is that happening? Yeah, I think so. Where there's smokes, there's fires,

the old kind of funny thing used to go, right, where I feel like enough talk has happened. And I think you see Xbox doing this ally thing. You see the success of the switch. You see PlayStation. let's I mean like as we talk about generations mattering less than ever

and you talk then about okay cool how do we sell more hardware to make more gamers happy stay or whatever like you can only buy so many PlayStation 5s you buy the one you buy the pro you whatever like if they're gonna then say well we can take all the interards of that and put it into a smaller thing again you're gonna get people to go buy it

and I think that yes PlayStation looks that and goes yes we want we want that thing we want to be able to chase it My concern is when we talked about handhelds and gamings and where we're going, gaming for the past forever, but probably around Steam Deck where I had my Steam Deck, but I just wasn't, I wasn't feeling it. I didn't feel the Steam ecosystem. So many games didn't work at the time, but I'm talking about launch of it, right? Yeah.

It was that dream of PlayStation. I used to say Xbox doing it where I'd be, I was like, I would go where that goes. I want my games on the go. By the time, I think PlayStation gets it together and does a PlayStation handheld. be fucking stoked. I love having my games. You know, again, playing Ghost of Yote for review and for fun on the portal is great, but again there's, oh, hold on,

let the internet connect or do something or whatever. I don't want to worry about that. I want it just natively. My concern is by the time they do that, I'm going to be way far gone on this. Really? I mean, well, think about it. It's like how many indies come to PlayStation 5 six months a year after their

Steam launch and their GamePass launch? Yeah. Or early access stuff. Like, Ratsitan. the spiritual successor to Patapon isn't on PlayStation right now because it's in early access and it's only on PC which is great for me

because I get to go play this awesome you know, spiritual successor to Pat upon when I want to and do this rogue light version of Patapon that I love and if you haven't heard me talk about

it, go fucking play it if you like Patapon. It's very different but you'll wrap your head around and eventually have a great time. But it's like by the time that comes to PlayStation in full release

how many dozens of hours am I going to have on Steam and why wouldn't I just want to stay there with the version that then upgrade? Like it's that idea and it's going to be the same thing of like, cool, as this tech of the gaming handhelds, PC handhelds, whatever, continues to escalate and get better by the time that PlayStation launches and they're like, yeah, well, it's about the power

of a PlayStation 5, maybe, you know, a little bit less than a pro. It's not the PS6. Well, it's like, we're back to, well, I'm going to want to play the PlayStation 6 game on the PlayStation 6, right? The exclusive. Yeah. And I'm going to want the nicest game possible over wherever I can. See, the rebuttal I give is that I think this comes back to where we're going to be at with the generation or whatever. And I think to my to the point I made earlier, I think a I think if you get a fizzant in that PlayStation 6 launch period, that's this is only playable on PlayStation 6. I think you'll still get a Spiroman 3 that's playable on PS5 and PS6. Yeah.

And if we're in that same season getting the alleged PlayStation handheld that let's say it plays PlayStation 5 games, I'm playing. I'm playing, I'm playing Spired to me in 3 on my PlayStation portable device, right? Like I would too, but here's my thing. And I think that's going to last for a while. think for it's going to be like three or four years of us getting those crossover titles 100% and i agree with you on that yeah but at that point i'm also sitting there going and this would be me as a consumer not me as a reviewer who would get it or whatever i have such a great experience on my portal already what would be the point of me buying like you know what i mean i take on the road and go sure

take it on the road and go but if i'm already locked in on this pc version road and go if i'm only already using my PlayStation 5 for exclusives which i pretty much am as my trophy list shows it's like, well, they're losing me more and more over here, right? Like I talked about this on Greg Way of like, uh, it was a redacted and then we did it. We talked about it. But like for some reason over on the Razorblade, uh, 16, I cannot get, uh, vampire, the masquerade bloodlines two to run on it. Like it just hangs on the open.

It doesn't even get to the game. It just hangs on the load screen of like bloodlines. And so I was like when it was a review and I was trying to figure this all out, I booted up the rock ally. It ran on that. I played on the afternoon. The ROG, of course, a great machine, but it's not the most powerful guy in the world. So it was like, oh, this looks garbagey.

And so I hit up here. I'm like, hey, they were giving me things for PC. And I'm like, we are well out of my depth, nor do I want to do this. Convenience. Can you just give me the PlayStation 5 code and I'll start it there? They did. I did. And afternoon and two afternoons with it.

It's like, I've told you when I talked about it in the Greg way. It's a very interesting quaint. It's a PS3 game. It feels like a fucking PS3 RPG, which I'm not against, especially in Spooky. movies, being vampires, yada, yada,

yada, I want to get back to that when I'm done with redacted, and there's a moment here before the next redacted comes, right?

And it's that thing of like, I booted it on the razor today and it didn't work. And I'm like, all right, I'll continue on PS5. And then I was like,

wait a second. Invita G-Force now. Boom, there it is. Yeah. I'm going to give up the five hours I have on PlayStation to then

play it here on on Nvidia, right, which I can play on the Mac, which I can play on the Razor, which I can play on the ROG and have it running with a 5080. This isn't an ad of 5080 RtX, right? It's like, well, yeah, duh, I'd rather do that because I don't know when I'm picking

that game up and going with that game and that'll work so well. It's like to then go PlayStation's got a handheld. Great. I'm fucking lost in the sauce of having so. I now have multiple options on how to play a game outside of the play. Like, yeah. You know what is? This is always in some.

I know for PC people, they're screaming of like, it's always been this way. And it has, but there's been. And now more than ever, the hurdles are so small. Like it's so easy to buy this stuff off the shelf and go for it that like, yes, I want PlayStation to make a handheld. And I think there's an interesting comment that I actually grabbed every year. Spartan 2842 over in the live chat said I feel both Greg and Bless are a very small demographic. Most people are commuting for work or playing at home. I can't imagine spending 500 to a thousand on something just to play 20 minutes at a time.

You're not wrong. we are well aware the gaming handheld market is a very small piece of the pie. I'm not saying this is going to lead to PlayStation's downfall. You're listening to an enthusiast video game podcast about how we consume games and where we're

at with PlayStation. And I'm just telling you that the convenience race for my life has been won right now by PC gaming and Xbox play anywhere or whatever. Yeah, I do think that as far as like that small piece of the pie that are into like the handheld stuff, I do think that the PlayStation brand does someone

for that though. It's going to be in contrast to I guess how I feel about the Xbox ROG ally where I view that so much as a PC handheld that just happens to have some Xbox brain to it. I and I don't I don't think that's for everybody right I think that's for that like small piece of pie when PlayStation puts out a console PlayStation handheld I think that speaks to a way way broader audience I think you're talking to I mean you go to people and be like yo this is the next PSP this is the next maybe leave out Vita not even Like I think, depending on the level of power for this PlayStation portable, it becomes, yo, this is the PlayStation switch.

Yeah. This isn't a PSP. This isn't knockoff games that aren't as good as your full-fledged PlayStation. This is the PlayStation, the palm of your hands. Yes, it looks worse and it doesn't run this and da-da-da-da-da. But it's like it's PlayStation. You get to do whatever you want with it. And I know this is almost like a different conversation or a deeper conversation.

But I'm loving it. We're having a great show. Yeah. But I think at that point, if I'm PlayStation and I put out a PlayStation, a new PlayStation, handheld that has the power of the PS5 because it has, you know, AI, pisser, AMD, whatever it is, right?

Like, that it's able to get there and you're able to sell it and do whatever. Like, I think maybe you can even look at some of your first party studios and go, hell, focus this. Like, we want to make your PS4, or sorry, not PSI, I keep saying PS4, make your PS5, PS6, cross-gen game,

but we're going to market it heavily for the handheld. We're going to make people look at this handheld and go, damn, they're putting everything out for this thing. Like, they are, this is like, this is essentially, exists as a new portable console to me. Eric 86 says that portable is going to hit so hard. Don't doubt it like everyone did the portal.

Yeah. People love that portal. People went to that portal. They can't believe it works. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I think you come in and do it. The price has to be right, though.

Of course. Spartan 2842. I'm going to do this and then get to an ad break. Popped in and said, wait, read my other comment. It was a better follow-up. The Spartan said in a follow-up, I believe this is it.

Plus, I work in front of a PC all day. I'm not gaming on PC because it reminds me of work. It all comes down to what is convenient for you to play. second last part there it all comes down to what is convenient for you to play 100% you are totally right I'm right there with you the first part of your statement is what I said for years because it was annoying as shit as I always joked around to get I have my giant TV I hooked the fucking tower up then I got this mouse and keyboard and I'm staring up at like that shit's done that shit is over like the like the rock and the touchscreen doesn't feel like I'm working on a PC when I put the laptop in and I do it over there it I'm using the controller doesn't feel like I'm using a PC. and like big picture mode has been around forever so I'm not trying to act like that's a revelation. The full screen Xbox experience, I'm not trying to act like that's a revelation. But it is the idea that that hurdle is now so tiny of it.

I do not, when I use the laptop and I plug the HDMI into it and it throws it up on my screen, I do not feel like I'm using a PC and I'm sitting on my couch with a wireless thing. Back to you talking about the PlayStation hardware. Yeah. And how the Pulse elites and the Pulse Smalls, whatever they fucking call. Oh yeah. Like all the stuff. is done for their ecosystem.

Yes, I love the quality of all those products. I, again, laugh at how inconvenient they all are. Where it's like, cool, I turn on my ROG and I put in my fucking nice AirPod pros in the ROG sees them, boom, and I'm using that, and I'm ready to go. When I really want, when I was going on the plane

to play the Razor Blade 16 and do it, I brought my kind of funny Xbox controller. It sunk through Bluetooth, no problem. And I grabbed the nice Xbox headset that is sunk Bluetooth, no problem. The fucking goddamn play. PlayStation pulse adapters and the plugs and shit, fuck that. No, if I'm,

I want to go and I want it to fucking work. I'm such the reverse where whenever I want to like link more, I guess Bluetooth link my headphones or like my pulse explorers to my steam deck, half the time. I'm having issues with that thing. I cannot find it in the list of things. It won't pop up. I'm like holding buttons.

I'm doing all this shit. It's so fucking. That's why I'm saying. PlayStation ones haven't worked for me for it. But like for when I'm sticking within the PlayStation ecosystem, I have the sick ass thing. Oh, they're great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I have the thing plugged into the back of my PlayStation at work. And so I walk in with my Pulse Explores, turn on my PlayStation automatically. It already knows that. I'm like, this is bliss for me. Exactly. Convenience. Yeah. Just like some people say, the kind of funny membership's pretty convenient.

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Because we talked about how this year for me, I feel like has been, like, I guess compared to previous years, a bit emptier as far as the PlayStation first party output and all that stuff, right? And you talk about how, for PlayStation, how does that hit? Yeah. Do they look at it and be like, oh, this is, actually, this is working out for us. And, like, does that, how does that affect them going forward? I think that, and this might sound like a copium take, but this is just,

me going off of how we got here, in my opinion. I think when we're three years down the line, four years down the line, we're going to look back at this. It is a word. I'm sorry. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Never heard it.

I think we're going to look back at this year and be like, damn, what the fuck happened? I think this year is very much a result of when pandemic, how much that fucks up, video game development and cancellations and all that stuff. But beyond that, um, things like the multiplayer games getting careful and not work out, right? Like, remember Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic remake that was being made by Aspire? Like, remember the Star Wars game that fucking, uh, Quantic Dreams making, but now they're making this multiplayer thing.

We ain't never playing that. I know we, we joke about Domino's all the time in regards to Xbox, but I think the PlayStation Domino's had just a weird amount of hiccups back to back to back to back that I think have just resulted in like, okay, now we just happen to have just two big games this year and a dudden lost whole side and Marathon getting pushed or whatever. I think, yeah, it's the live service thing that really fucked them. Yeah. In terms of their output.

I think they lost their way there when, oh, tried to chase these trends that was done. The fuck, you know, pull back reverse course, but you have nothing to fill those gaps then. Where it's like,

in PlayStation's mind, right, we probably should be playing or have just played the giant Concord expansion that this giant thing they just did. Marathon should have came out last month or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, we should all still be fucking in love with Last of Us Online. Last of Us Online should be happening. We should all still be going. God of War, Rag and Rock.

The Halloween event right now. We're all running around our clickers and uncharted costumes in God of our online launches December We're all excited for it Like I think there are just so many things that we're supposed to happen And I think a lot of those are just being Like a lot of the studios that were working on those things

Are you just having to figure out like Okay well what is going to happen now? What does that look like? I'm sure PlayStation in replacing a lot of those things Especially things like studio Studio like London Studios being shut down and stuff I'm sure that then translates into them having third party conversations as far as all right how do we take a third party game and throw money at them to make an exclusive right?

I think a lot of those things are happening. Was that you're me? That was me. But I was like, where did that come from? I'm not wearing. I thought it was my meta.

I was like, I'm not wearing them today. Watch. Yeah, it's my, it's a notification. Everybody, somebody's at my door. It'll be okay.

But yeah, I think PlayStation is just in a down period right now. I think that's, I think they're going to bounce back. Not in like a, they're in trouble kind of way, but just in a, there was supposed to be more.

I, I know if you're a PlayStation, and I know I say this and hundreds of jobs have been lost and reducing on. But if you're PlayStation, I have, Ope, you're sitting there going, I can't imagine we got away with this.

You know what I mean? Like, this is a, oh, for sure. We fucking, this live service initiative fell flat on its face and has left us with fewer games to put out in this generation. And we're somehow still leader of the pack. You know, obviously Switch. The different races, everybody's running. How dare you do that to Nintendo? We're still fucking, we're still doing well.

And everybody looks at Xbox is the ones who really fucked up. Yeah, yeah. But I can't imagine, yeah, PlayStation looked at this year and they were like, Gose-Ote and Destraining 2. and that's pretty much it. Like that's the, that's the plan for this year. I feel like it's,

I like those games. I especially love, love, love distrating to, but, uh, it's a weird year for me. I always forget that you hated Ghost of Yoza.

I fucking God, you know? 8 out of 10, what were you thinking? And Ghost of Tsushima was a 10 at 10. I got a few super chats in here to get in before we start getting on our way.

Dean 8149 says, I'm still struggling to associate Marvel token with PS. But as a fighting game and Marvel fan, that is a huge PlayStation announcement for me. I saw when we talked about it, someone at Chabby, like, it's also coming to PC.

Of course it is. We're not, but we're talking about, obviously, what in this console landscape or whatever. Not that it matters, because the Xbox Rogg out there is going to fucking play it anyway.

Marvel talk on Fighting Souls I put in the same bucket as they held out of us to you, just as far as like, it's a third party thing that they're publishing. That's also multiplayer. And so you've got to put it on PlayStation and PC because you don't want to confine that audience to just one thing.

So here's a good, use case scenario I think for you come for your way back way way way back when you were like what do you when review codes come in what are you requesting on? The one I'm not struggling with but I keep hemming and hauling about

is Arc Raiders. Arc Raiders looks awesome. I really want to play Arc Raiders we did the interview on Gamescast the boys have been streaming it I've been watching it I'm like yes hell yeah I want to play this game but I'm torn on if I should PlayStation it or if I should PC it

because it is cross play so it doesn't matter for the group I get it with but it's more the idea of like when I the Razor Blade 16 being connected to the TV is still a new thing to me like that's still not second nature

and so then it's like well how much I'm arc would I actually play on the ROG I feel like this has got Mike support and I'm gonna have to talk to people to play so that doesn't seem like the actual thing yeah but then it's like why I need to use Discord I'm sure to play with handy and Mike they're not fucking using PSN chat and I'm it wouldn't even work that way.

But PlayStation has Discord on it. It's really easy to use. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I, yeah, I've never used it. Do I want to go learn that shit right now? It's really easy. Like, it legitimately is, well, I guess the way I use it, because I literally open Discord, and then there's an option, I think, to right click it

and then be, like, connect with my PlayStation. Project Zero says, oh, it's Xbox Play Anywhere? We're done, there, done, boom. Oh, did not realize there was a Play Anywhere game. This is what I'm talking about, the convenience of it. You turn your back on PlayStation. Well, I mean, again, Like, it's fucked up, chat.

It is fucked up. I saw somebody, uh, somebody was like, I knew this is going to be a shit on PlayStation podcast. I should have trusted my gun. It's gone now. But like,

yeah, I mean, no, it's a convenience thing. And the idea of like, I have that Xbox series X at home begging for things to do. If I can walk in and I don't want to connect the PC to have a gajillion frames and have it sound loud.

No big deal. I'm right. I don't know if that would be one that makes it sound loud. I don't know. But then I had the opposite thing where here at my desk, I'm so used to plugging in the PC that today I took the Xbox series X, I'm like, why do I still have this? I walked it into the streaming room, put it back down.

I was going to keep shaming you, and then I checked the trailer to see what I'm requesting it on. And I requested on PC. So, you know what? Never mind. You're making the right decision, Greg. Get that window. Making the right decision.

J.B. says it's been quiet this year because the year is all about third-party indie games. Expedition 33, Hades 2, Silk Song, etc. Again, you're not wrong about that. Those are the games that are filling in all these gaps, and not all of them, obviously, because Hades 2 still is non-Playstation. But you know what I mean in terms of all these missing things. But I also think that like I don't view them as like as gap fillers though.

Like I think for PlayStation, because they're the leader, I guess in disregard in the Xbox versus PlayStation race. Yeah. Like those are the main events. Like those are like the PlayStation audience. I don't think really care whether it's a ghost of the Ote or a clear obscure, right? Like they just view those as dope as dope as games that are on the platform. At least if you're a regular person.

You view that as a dope ass game that's on the platform. 100%. It's like a win is a win. A hundred percent. And that's why. again, PlayStation, I think is the mainstream console. Yeah. It's got what you want and then it's got these amazing things you can get nowhere else. Yeah. Do you think we're, do you think we can get another 2019?

When I say that, or not 2019, sorry, 2020, maybe 2019. We get another 2020. Not as, not in regards to the COVID-19 and taking over everything and shutting this down, but in regards to that year, we got last of this part two, Final Fantasy Seven remake, uh, Ghost of Sushima, Miles Morales, Demon Souls, uh, Astros, Play, room, little big planet, whatever that one was called. The sack boy's big adventure. It was just,

it was, it was a embarrassment of ridges. Do you think we can get back to that? Or even like the stretch from 2017 to 2019 where it's back to back to back to back to back bangers? Yes, no. I think you started bringing in like,

you know, games that are third party there and third party partnerships. I think with that yes. I think, I think you look but if I'm PlayStation and I'm looking to try to plan that year after what we've had here, how right now I would let's let sleeping dogs lie we are doing and make another sleeping dog ring back sleeping dog but we're doing so well right now with minimal output let's keep it this way PlayStation 6 let's have a multiple years in whatever this year that is for you we have a every quarter

we have a gigantic PlayStation exclusive and then we have these partnerships that are also exclusive you know is it too early to start predicting the launch year of the PlayStation 6 no I've heard I've heard you guys doing it on the shows yeah because I'm like man I'm trying to think of what that looks like, right? And like the games that we've been waiting for or whatever. And I fizzint all forever, I guess, predict that that that's going to be that launch year because I think that would be the person. I want that so bad.

I don't believe it. I refuse to believe it. I can't believe that. That is too exciting of a thing. What, you think it's just too far out or you just think they're not going to be able to line that up? I think they can't. I don't think they line it up. See, I look at that.

I think I try to think the other studios. I mean, I miss on the show when PS Love You was every week where we just had to speculate about studios all the time because there was nothing else talking about. I mean, Sony Bend, what are you fucking doing? I mean, they were starting whatever thing they were doing, right?

I still don't believe there. I worry about them. I worry about them all the time. Blue Point, what are you doing? Yeah. They were starting whatever thing, right? So it's like, are those going to be around? I don't know if those are going to make it

for a PlayStation 6 launch if we're talking about two years from now? Do you think Intergalactic's PlayStation 5 or PlayStation 6? I think it'll be across the time. I think it comes out. Let's say if PlayStation 6 comes out 27 because I don't think that's crazy

to say. If that comes out 2027, I think that game is kind of like last as part too. I think it's the last Mara. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the last round. And guess what? Intergalactic remastered PlayStation 6. And they were rastered three more times after that.

What's up with the Horizon? Where is this multiplayer game? Not the MMO. Fuck that. I don't care about it. Where is the goddamn we're going to go monster hunting together? And then, yeah, where is the third is the where is the first? You made such a big deal of this goddamn cliffhanger ending

that was so not satisfying for Horizon 2. That should be a segment as we check in on every PlayStation major franchise right now. Because Horizon, the multiplayer game has to be will have to be in the next year and a half.

Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't understand what's going on. And again, the game's just not ready. Maybe they're still cooking whatever.

Maybe they're just also trying to get some distance from the multiple failed. multiplayer games so they don't I feel like the well is poisoned on any any fucking PlayStation multiplayer game that PlayStation is making. Is it Concord? Will we ever see it like Marathon? Fair Games is in free fall?

Like the fucking intro graphs for every one of the IGN GameSpot previews writes themselves of PlayStation is struggled in the multiplayer genre here are these three things that have not gone the way there, but here they are with one of their biggest franchises and it is good bad, you know what I mean? Well, like, you know, I think outside of the ones you mentioned, like, how many, how many still big bad beluga? Call Holman Hurst right now.

What's going on over there, Herman? Hey, Holman. Holman, what's up? Just to fucking airball that name as hard as you could. Outside of those that you mentioned, because, like, they canceled. I feel like after those cancellations, how many of those do you think they even have in the, in the well still? Like, are there, I mean, I think there's so many we didn't hear, know about that got canceled as well.

Oh, for sure. So then, yeah, you're looking at Horizon and it's like... You're looking at Horizon and Project Gummy Bears. Which I swear to God, that exists. We're going to get that announced at some point in the next two years. Remember this. Natty says Marathon will get delayed. Do you think Marathon...

Get delayed to what? I was going to say it's delayed and now... It's already delayed. I'm saying a marathon will get canceled. Yeah. I don't think it'll get canceled. Just because they announced the private tests. Lucid Dream.

Hulsman Holm was demoted. I think Marathon, at least for now, I don't feel like it's all the way done with because they're doing the closed beta tests that are happening. Hard to find that fun. But we'll see when we'll see when we get around to next year if it still exists.

There's that God of War, 2D Metroidvania game. Here we go. That one I believe in more than any of the multiplayer stuff. Yeah. And again, like that, honestly, knowing so little about that, I feel like you're talking,

you're talking about like, you're looking at your studios being like, oh shit, we need something, we need it fast. Like, we can do a God of War, 2D Metroid, you're pretty quick, go for it, you know what I mean? Like, try to get something out there to have a game that is something you want that isn't a multiplayer. Because I think that's another one,

and coming back to my question, where I asked, like, do you think we get another year or stretch of years or it's like back to back to back to back? I think, I think yes, but it won't be by design. I think it'll be by everything just got delayed and now everything is happening. Everything is happening to come out at the same time. Because part of me wonders that that's how that happened last time

where they're like, yeah, we have this backup of games that just like, ah shit, all, put them all out because they're all lining up like this. I think even this year,

that God of War 2D game was supposed to come out this year, I believe, according to, to rumor mill, yeah, or at least the now

if you can trust him. So like, was that a situation of that getting delayed to next year marathon, even though I know that's not like a

banger, banger thing like that is seemingly delayed to next year. We're looking at next year as being a pretty busy year for PlayStation and I don't know

if that's by design. I think that's just by happenstance. And will it still be a busy year PlayStation with fucking Grand Theft Auto dropping in the middle of it. Keep in mind that like this is the like you talk about like PlayStation being mainstream. That means people are going to look at Grand Theft Auto and go that is a PlayStation game.

I'm playing that on PlayStation. And that's going to change everything. Soros we know is coming out on March 20th. Yeah, I think they got that. They're trying to get out of it. New is February. Do you think Wolverine gets delayed? No.

I think you do that. Because we have a date on that. No. Yeah. Yeah. You do that in the fall. because Grand Theft Auto's May, right? So you let Grand Theft Auto

just run away with the summer. Yeah, clear summer. Yeah, yeah. I agree with that. And then, yeah, Marvel, Marvel Tolkien's a weird one. Because if you put that out, I feel like you got to put it out before,

which I'm going to call it Evo. Unless maybe you put it out after Evo and just let people have a full year with that game before that comes back around. Because Evo's in the summer. But that's the same thing as like, yeah. I sometimes wonder.

And this is a creature. crazy statement. Hold on. Let me make sure Andy's seeing my request for a different thumbnail. Not are we giving Grand Theft Auto too much credit. It's going to be insane and it's going to dominate and you had to yell at, but like if they do the thing where they don't launch online for Grand Theft Auto at the same time. Grand Theft Dotto, yeah, stay clear of May, obviously. Stay clear of June, I would think as well. But like in July, there's going to be oxygen again for a fighting game to come out and be that. Because again, especially if a fighting game that's going to speak to speak to such a. specific audience of like, hey, we want to be here with the fighting game community. I think that's something you could launch alongside, not day, do not go head to head the same day or anything. Oh, sure, sure, sure.

I, I hear that. I also think, I think this one is special, though. Like, I think Marvel Tokon Fighting Souls has the opportunity to be mainstream in the way that like a modal combat is. And I say that entirely because of the Marvel license. Sure. And because Marvel is kind of combat. I mean, look to Marvel rivals, right?

Yeah. Where it's like how many people were playing. I mean, I know that sounds stupid. Overwatch is very popular. Sure, sure. But I mean, like, this is a hero shooter with heroes. You know, I think more people came, and it's free, more people came to try that than would have jumped into an Overwatch. I apologize.

Yeah. But I think in regards to placement of it, because of both GTA and Evo, like, because Evo chat, is, is Evo? Okay, here we go. Now, that's evil France. June. Okay, here we go. June 26th is when Evo. 2026 is I think that's still too

I think one that's that's too close to GTA but then also it's too early in the year for if you were to drop Marvel Tocon in like an April or something I think they want to get people more time to play that game and get ready for that okay I think Evo is a major marketing beat for a game like this sure like I think you have to frame the release of this game kind of around Evo

especially because the PlayStation connection so yeah I think that's a fall game I think Marvel Tocon comes out in the fall as well okay and i think honestly that and wolverine could be a great one two punch if you have them like one month after the other yeah yeah ride that marvel hot yeah uh let's get some more super chats and then go to lunch sky says i think i'm just gonna move into the pc gaming space instead

i just can't be bothered by all the console BS anymore lull crazy statement but i understand what i mean i'm not mad at it again i you know i understand we're talking about you know smores and orio says arc raiders is cross save get both playstation 5 and pc oh it's cross save as well apparently according to Smoors. But it's Xbox play anywhere, so it's like already solved. I have a system running it again.

Yeah, we just get multiple copies. But it's, but they're back to skate. We're back to skate where I have skate installed in every machine. Is Arc Raiders a,

is that a premium? Like, do I have to buy Arc Raiders? You do, yeah. Oh, okay. Never-bye. Check. 30, 40? It is.

Oh, 40 bucks. 90? 90. Okay, never mind. That costs money. Yeah. Uh, Mani,

Bagle Boy Sanchez. Good to see you, Mani. I haven't read your name in a while. I'm in the same boat as Greg. My consoles are my sons now. Basically, I play on Rog Alley or my PC Tower now. Kids always take the big TV.

We're not that far gone, thank God. You know, just Saturday and Sunday afternoons. We're down there on the big TV playing games and been obsessed with Spider-Man, obsessed with Astrobat, ready to go. This is what I'm talking about when I say I go on Twitter and I don't... Whatever happened to the PlayStation Toxic console warriors.

You know what I mean? Oh, they're still there. What happened? All y'all are weak. I mean, it's like, it's one of those things. How many... Like, I don't like y'all, but like, also, you know, where'd you go? I mean, I mean, when you see Xbox failing so badly, like, they're beating themselves up.

They got bored. When the Xbox influencers and podcasters started burning their stuff and say, like, the PlayStation kids are like, Jesus, we can't even go at you. We can't even go ahead. We feel bad for you. Sorry this is happening to you. They're playing games. Omega Buster says, what if I have to choose between that $1,000 handheld of my Patreon sub,

the horror, Omega Buster, we're just $10. Don't worry about it. You can afford $1,010. I'm not worried about that, right? People are saying they're still there. I just look in the wrong places. Yeah. Where do I got to go to find?

That's the other two. You're always like, oh, wait, let's talk. So like, no, it's more. I'm like,

well, I'm not going to comments and message boards and all this. I'm going to our slash PlayStation right now. You want to know, I had to unsubscribe from R slash skate because they hate the game so much.

Oh, really? I hate this. I'm like, I can't even read this anymore. Fuck, I haven't got out of here. And then Lucy dreams the final super chat for now says, Strive launched in June 2021 and was at Evo that year.

Man, they're all just posting Ghost of Yote on... They're happy. They're out there having fun. They're happy. I mean... PlayStation's celebrating. Dang. Well, good for y'all.

Good for y'all. Good for y'all. This was a fun conversation. This is a good time. Yeah. Yeah, there's no summation, really. I still love PlayStation. I'm still excited for a PlayStation's hands.

I still love the exclusives. But I think, you know, it's the conversation we've had so many times on Greg Wayser and passing with other things of like... I feel like the ecosystem doesn't pull me in. And the ecosystem I'm including is the surrounding tissue of being online and being part of the PlayStation community and all the stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah. The,

it's not that I don't love trophies anymore. It's just that I'm so busy both with the amount of fucking games to play every week, even when it's not review season, that it's so hard for me to be. I'm going to platinum this. I'm going to play this over and over again. It's then the idea of like with, you know, the business and being a dad, my gaming hours are still there. But they need, as I've said before, they need to be. for the game I want to play slash need to play. I no longer have the, I've played four hours of the game I wanted to play.

Now I'm going to do an hour of bullshit platinum trophies for fun. Like, it's just not the thing. And so like that's all part of the same equation. Yeah. And that's the convenience of everything else meeting me somewhere. But we'll continue to see how it evolves as time goes, bless. I'm right there with you. For now, everybody, that's been another episode of the kind of funny games cast.

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