Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Kinda Funny's Top 100 Games Of All-Time - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 100

Episode Date: December 30, 2016

To celebrate the 100th episode of Kinda Funny Gamescast, we try to decide our top 100 games. Emphasis on "try." (Released to Patreon Supporters 12.23.16) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the first ever episode God damn it, are we serious? Oh, actually, they'll hear this. They don't even know that. They don't even know that reference. There's a preview. Next episode, episode 101 is, it's fun.

It's the game of the year. And when we get to the last topic, which is the kind of funny game of the year, there's a car alarm that goes off and it never stops. And it drives us crazy. But for now, welcome to the first ever episode 100

of the Kind of Funny Games cast. Yay. We did things for a long time. And now we are here at episode 100. So what we're going to do, we've been talking about this for a while, but we're going to do the kind of funny 100. What that means is we're going to have a discussion and list 100 games that we stand by, which means we're not talking about our favorites necessarily.

We're not talking about the best necessarily. We're talking about 100 games that kind of funny is like, yeah, seal of approval. We fuck with this shit. Sure. And you should too. Sure. Is that going to include a lot of the best in our favorites? Probably.

Absolutely. But. That's the criteria that we're going here. Rules because people do rules for these lists and shit. A lot of people do the only one entry per franchise. I ain't playing that game. Okay. If every Mario makes it,

every Mario makes it. So you tell me right now, we can put all the padpons on there. Every pat upon. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.

Pat upon remaster. I mean, we should get ahead of the curve and put pat upon remaster on there for being serious. Just, yeah. Just, you know. Do we want this list to be timeless or do we want it to be very dated in the pre-pad upon remaster world? It's up to you. You know, it's our list. We can do whatever the hell we,

Good point. Good point. You guys probably know by now there were 100 episodes in. This is the Kind of Funny Games cast. Each every week we get together. Talk about video games and all the things we love about them. I'm Tim Geddies, joined by the coolest dudes in video games, Colin Moriarty, and Greg Miller. Oh. You can get the show early on patreon.com slash kind of funny games.

You can get the show late on YouTube.com slash Kind of Funny Games. Either way, we appreciate you very, very much. We love and appreciate you. This is the last episode of 2016. Wow. Yeah. Worked out nicely. It did. It did. It's almost like you planned it.

Almost. But you didn't. Almost. But almost. So what we're going to do, Kevin? Yeah, right. Yeah, fucking right. You know anything in this place works that way?

Now, silent Bob. I said now, silent Bob. There goes, it worked. There's a spreadsheet behind us that I'm going to update and it's going to be really hard to see. But that's how. It's fun to see. Well, we'll be fine.

Yeah. But from at home, we'll have to do some maneuvering. The wild It's gonna be fun And we're gonna fill it out It's gonna be fun So just delete every column Except the master system

Because we're gonna get A hundred master system games up there right now Ghost house Ghostbusters I got my laptop in case We need to need to be reminded Of some things So I can Google

To see what games are people Are talking about And what other people have On their lists Because that's how the best lists are made You look at other people's list And critiquing them Me like I fucking hate your list

Sure This is what you're missing Or this is what you Like thumbs up to you Okay Anyway What we're gonna do is we're going to go console by console.

Okay. And kind of just kind of, I think that's a good way to start the conversation. But what inevitably is going to happen is we're going to get to a franchise and then it's going to be like, well, which one do we include? And then it turns into this whole thing of then we're going to be talking about later gens, even the earlier gens, but whatever. It's a discussion. This is what this is about.

It's about the fun of it. Also, let us know in the comments what games you think should be in the list, but it won't be too late. We can. I mean, yeah. You know, I'm not saying your list. No. You can make your own list.

Make your 100 best games of all time, favorite games of all time. whatever, whatever your name is. Make the freaking Bob Sagget. Damn, Bob Saggett. Damn, Bob Sagitt watches the games cast. Heard he's a big fan. Wow, that's huge. All right, let's start with the pre-NES.

Because I don't know how many games that we will necessarily put on the list from there. Now, are we saying that we need to put, this is just a brain. This is a Kickstarter. Is that where we're going? We're getting a little jump start on the, with the old noggin here. Yeah, the old kickstart. We don't have to put anything.

Like when the master system comes up. There are, there are a lot of pre-NES games that should be on the list. I know, but I'm just saying. I didn't know if we're trying to hit like five on every system or something. If we end up with 10,100 games on this list, we end up with 10 hundred games. We can prune if we want or not. That's really going to fucking. That's really going to fuck up, though, kind of funny games cast episode 10,000.

We're trying to do with the 10,000 list. We already done the 10,000. We'll do 100 then. Okay. Yeah. So pre-a-hance. Pong. What are we dealing with here, Carl?

You stand by Pong? You got to put Pong in there. Well, I mean, why? It's not a fun game. Yeah, it is. Come on. It's a very important. It's a very important.

I mean, if you want to put Pong on there, I wouldn't necessarily say that. I don't fuck with Pong. Miss Pac-Man, I think, belongs on the list. Now, which version of Miss Pac-Man? In what regard? Any regard. I don't know. Is there a specific one? You're talking about the arcade.

Yeah, the arcade of the 1980s. Arcade. Okay, cool. I think it's not on 1980, I think, actually. Yeah, the arcade cabinet. Miss Pac-Man. Still, I think one of the most, I really think that's still one of the best pure gameplay experiences ever.

It's so simple, you know, but very hard to mass. in a really super important game. I'd also... Gallagher? You put Gallagher on there? I think that's... I think that's appropriate. I fuck with Gallagher.

You fuck with Gallagher? Okay, okay, okay. I feel you. I would... I mean, I would put Breakout or Archanoid on there. I wouldn't put both. And Breakout was first.

I think Arkenoids better. Let's go Arkenoid then. Yeah, I think Arkenoids, you know, I love Brick Breakers. It's one of those genres where you can't really... There's only been a few games that have done something interesting with it since then. Shatter being probably the best example of it,

but... I love Arconoid. I think Arkenoids is great. Great, great, great. Now, the thing there for me, Arkenoid is great, but I think Pagel does it better. So I would say the Pagel deserves it more.

Any of the Pagel's. They're different, though. They are different. But, you know, I feel like Pagel is just the idea of it improved and has so much depth and layers. Let's not count out magic orbs. Magic orbs. I love magic.

I never played. And hyperbaloid HD. I mean, what you're saying when you put as many games you won on there, but I think Peggle deserves to be on there too when we get there, not in this pre-N-E-S. But you think, so you think that even with Peggle in mind,

Arkinnoid still deserves a spot? I really just think they're fundamentally different games. Like, they're both removing things from a screen by hitting them, but they're not the same. And I would say that they're both belonging. I love Peggle. Scott Romley introduced me to Peggle, actually.

And, yeah, that in Plans v. Zombies, he introduced me to that too. So I believe that, you know, belongs, but I wouldn't necessarily say at the sake of a... Yeah, I don't think you actually knock one out. Arcordid is not the original brick breaker, but I think the best brick breaker. Any other pre-NES? Yeah, I would say Donkey Kong should be on the list. Donkey Kong.

OG Donkey Kong? Yeah, Arcade, Arcade cabinet of Donkey Kong. I don't think so. I think Donkey Kong 94 deserves the spot. Dyingong Country. No. Donkey Kong, Game Boy. The 1994 Game Boy.

Oh, oh. I never heard it called that. Yeah, I don't even know that I've ever played the Game Boy port, so. Oh, it's far superior. It includes all the Donkey Kong OG shit, but there's a whole, it's one of the best Game Boy games. Okay, I'll defer to you.

I'll put that on the Game Boy section. I'm deferred you on that. Donkey Kong. It's referred to as 94, so I actually called that. Put Tetris on there too if we're in the Game Boy section. Oh, Tetris on Game Boy. I would agree with you.

Yeah, that is, I think, the definitive version of the game. I will say that two others that come to mind from this particular era, not that I necessarily know if you guys would agree, a game that really, resonates with me that I actually really love is Mario Brothers. Oh, the arcade one with the pipes? Yeah, I love that game.

And really an archetype, although not necessarily the first game, I did static screen, coin chasing, and all that kind of stuff. But that game, again, super skill-based in the same way Donkey Kong is where you can get really, really, really, and I am really, really good at that game. And you can get kind of crazy good at it, and I think it's kind of kind of getting interesting. Are you crazy good at it or just quite good at? I think I'm quite good. But you could get very, very good at it.

And I like the loop. Back at IGN when we were in Brisbane a long time. ago we had a bunch of machines and I used to play that game all the fucking time like like constantly in the lunchroom I just I really loved it so that's a game worth thinking about but I don't think you guys have that sport the other one I think which is the best 2,600 game is River Raid but again I don't know if you guys are familiar with that game that game's fucking phenomenal and I think actually way ahead of its time as well but maybe not you know I want to have more of a consensus and if these games are you guys I'm not familiar with

River Ray I never played it Mario Rose I would say I don't think that that makes the list. Maribros is a little iffy. What do you think about River. Do we put it on? I mean, I think Riverade's awesome. But if you guys put it on, I mean, hey, fuck it. Riverade never ends and it's just a ship flying over a, or a plane flying over a river shooting shit. And me and my best friend from childhood, Mike Pope used to just play the shit out of it. And I just think it's a great, it's a really great game. And a standout on

2600. If you go back and play a lot of those games, and I know maybe a lot of our audience is younger, I didn't have or play in Atari 2600. Those games, those games, games do not stand up at all. And there are a few examples of games that do. I know people really love adventure and stuff like that. I would say River Raid is one of those games. Okay. Boom. It's on there. Can we move on to the NES? Yes, we can be here all day. Yes, we can. Let's do it. Let's begin all three Mario's. Yeah, definitely. I will say this, Tim, and I think you'll agree with this, that let's say per capita, the NES only had, I think, just north of 700 Western releases. And I think that per, like

like pound for pound, NES is going to have the most games per games on the console of any other console. And over there was like a massive swath of the NES library compared to say PS, PS2 is a good example. PS2 had like over 4,000 games. And so even if you had 50 games from the PS2, and I don't think that would anywhere be near the number of games you put on the list, that would be fewer per game than what I think. I think you can have, I think that you can easily make a case for 30 or 40 90s games. Like, yeah. Because these are, these are so, this is. Bless you, the quantum leap from Colico and Atari and all that kind of stuff to NES was significant. Now, we've seen jumps like that later on, but what an NES allowed you to do,

compared to, like, look at Pitfall compared to Mario Brothers. They're actually the same game, but one's very rudimentary and one isn't. And you see that across genres and across games and across franchises and across series where I'm, like all three Mario games, all three Ninja Gaming games, all six Mega Man games, all four Dragon Quest games. Like there's like like like you can go and like these games are masterpieces of gameplay and game design. Castlevania all these things like you can get all. And before you know, you have like 50 of these games. And could you really argue with any of those?

Like that's the, that's the thing. I think you could. My thing is I think that in the same way that you're right, the NES games are so, so far away from the 2,600 games. I think that for pretty much all the franchises, the Super Nintendo version is better than the NES version. But it doesn't distract from the NES version. It doesn't. It doesn't. But I think that they do, they improve.

Like, links of the past is better than Zelda. Sure. Super Mario World, in my opinion, is the best 2D Mario. I agree. I agree. Between World and three, it's very, very close. There's some. But for me, world is definitely, it takes the cake.

And then, like, Super Castlevania is, you know. Don't say it. I don't agree with that shit, man. People do, like, Castlevania 4 is, well, we'll get to Castlevania for. Because a similar thing you're going to find that SNES. The SNES, I think, only had like 10 or 15 more games in the West than the NES did without publisher constraints that were artificial during the NES era. So on both of those consoles,

I actually think the SNES' library is a little overrated compared to the NES's library which I think is a little underrated. But I don't necessarily disagree that there are, you know, Super Castlevania 4 with Mode 7 and all that kind of stuff

was like the whip and turning the stages that turn and stuff was incredible. I don't think it's better than Castle Many 3. But I will say that Super Mario World is better than Super Mario 3, although they're both tens. So like that's the problem.

And I would say the same thing about like Mega Man's, when we were in to do, the top 100 NAS games at IGN many years ago. One of the arguments was like, like the six Mega Man games are better than almost all of the games on the list. Like, but should you clog the list up with all of them?

That was a huge argument we had. And that's, that's the argument we need to have here. Because it's like, we got it. There needs to be some type of pruning, right? And I feel like in some cases, the entire franchise makes it just by default.

In some cases it doesn't. Do you really think all six Mega Man games? I think that if I would make a case for all three Mario games. Well, they're different. Then that's the reason why. Is they're different enough that I'm like all three belong to be there? If I had to boot one, it would be the first one. Ooh.

Because Mario 2, I think, is way different enough. Mario 1 is fucking fantastic. But I would rather give the spot to 2 because we have 3 and we are also for sure going to have a world. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, is that I would never even consider a world in which we were doing a list like this in all three of them on the list anyway. So it's, it's, but you're right in the sense that Super Mario Brothers is the most important game ever made. I don't think there's going to be a game ever more important. And that game, it holds up so incredibly as people with the mini NES or whatever the fuck it's called. I can never remember what's called classic.

Classic. Um, is approving, I think, to a lot of people maybe for the first time or maybe reminding them. But yeah, with Mega Man specifically, I think I might remove one. But two, three, four, five, and six are all really like probably the best platformers on the console in terms of shooty platformers. Now, obviously, Mario would take the cake, I think, in terms of, of sheer platforming and execution in that way. But the same thing with Ninja Guidon, where those three games are immaculate.

And so, like, which one would you remove? I wouldn't remove any of them. So, I mean, that's where I stand, but I don't want to monopolize the answer to the game I love. For the sake of this, though, I'm going to leave the decision in your hands for Mega Man, Castlevania, and Ninja Guyton. I mean, my take is I would,

if I had to prune something, and I think, I don't think the original Mega Man is that great. Like, I, Mega Man is heavy. It feels different as people know than two through six. Like there's just a different feel to it. The game's a little harder too, although that's not a problem. There's no E-tanks. Continuing is a little different.

The boss gamut at the end is, or Guantler rather, is different. So I would remove one. I mean, obviously two and three absolutely belong on the list. And I would put all of them, four, five, and six on there as well. So I don't know that you could possibly deny it. And you could make the argument that the games actually get more impressive, even though they don't have the same nostalgic resonance anymore. I mean, if you look at Mega Man 6, which came out in 1993, that game, I don't even know how that game runs on an NES.

If you actually look at the backgrounds, you listen to the music. It's unbelievable. Compare that game to Mega Man 1, and they're running on the same hardware. It's really remarkable. It is similar to the jump between Uncharted Drake's Fortune and The Last of Us, just on a different console in a different time and a different era, man. I mean, forget about it. And then with Castlevania, I would make the same argument you made with Mario where they're different games enabled on the list. they're all different.

And obviously, I think the first and a third belong on the list. I don't think anyone would dispute that. I think the big dispute would come from Simon's Quest. And I find that game to be super underrated specifically because of the provenance of the game and specifically because of the influence it has

on what we think Castlevania is today, which is not those games, which is Symphony of the Night. There would be no Symphony the Night without Simon's Quest. And so I would put all three of them on there as well. And I'm not sure anyone would dispute that either. The bigger thing I'm curious about with you is, is obviously the legend of Zelda is on the list.

Do you believe? I don't know. I don't know if it is. Oh, that's, that's, I really don't think it is because we got to think holistically about this because we, we can't be too top heavy in the beginning because there is so many games that come after that I want to make sure make the list. And like, while as many games per franchise can make it, I think that that really does make you kind of look within and be like, well, which one should. And so I think for me, Mario is probably the hardest one to, to cut ones out of. But with Zelda, I think it becomes a bit more clear where link to the past is it for sure for me. Ocarina is for sure for me.

Wind Waker. Yeah. I want to dispute anything. Come on. But I also would say my theory is that from mainline Zelda's, not including CDI and all that kind of stuff that you have, from Legend of Zelda 87 Zelda

all the way through Wind Waker, with the exception, I would say, of Link's Awakening, which is my least favorite Zelda game. I think all them belong on the list, including Oracle's, including like, they're all great. You know? So like this is the problem. which I might maybe get my notebook and just start hashtag or hashing like doing hash marks just because if we get to it if we want to keep it to 100 then see this is what I'm saying is we should put everything on and then go back and remove things.

That's that's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. But I want to still be thinking about it. I don't want to just put literally every fucking game we've ever played on the list, you know? But I agree. I mean, I get that there was a lot of amazing games back then. All right. So Ninja Guideon though before we. There are different schools of thought with Ninja Guidean. I think the first one is the best. People think that the series gets better. It certainly gets fucking tremendously hard. by the third game. I would definitely put the first one on for now. And I think we can go back. And you can make an argument for the second and third one. Those games are all good.

I got them actually all at the same time. I told the story about how my brother gave them me in a bass shoe box as a joke thinking that I was getting shoes for my birthday. And all three of them were in the box. All three. Yeah. And we were obsessed with those games.

And I was obsessed with Hayibusa. I thought he was a great character. I still think that the first one is the pinnacle of the series. Although there is a massive disagreement on them. It's similar to Mega Man 2 and 3. like maybe not quite as heated because Ninja Guy is not as popular. Okay, so Zelda.

I would put them both on there. I would put Zelda 2 on there absolutely too. You put Zelda 2 on there? Yeah, I don't know, man. The 2 is great and it's definitely very special, but like, when you're talking about the top 100, I don't think it fits there. It's just, it's too difficult

for the sake of being difficult, not in a fun, challenging way, just in this is bullshit way. Yeah, I don't know. So I look at Zelda 2 and Castlevania 2 in similar veins and actually Mario 2 in its own way, even though it's not a real Mario game, where the sequel to these established games

did something different. And what I loved about Zelda, too, is that similar to Castlevania 2 is it had hidden RPG systems that weren't really emphasized, but that they were there and they were important. Finding like the P-bags, which sounds weird to say,

around the world, and leveling yourself up, but similar to Simon and Simon's Quest where there was this backend system that was never really explained but was actually quite integral to the structure of the game because they didn't know how to put that out there yet.

So I think Zelda 2 did a really interesting job, actually of not only giving you a world, explore that was different and I felt more meaty because of the, like because of the nature of the dungeons as opposed to the original legend in Zelda, but also giving you an interesting story without really telling you anything. The fact that you start with Zelda's like passed out body on that, on an

altar or whatever, I think is awesome and I don't know, I don't think it's as good as LinkedIn. I don't think either of those games are as good as any of the Zelda games that came after with the exceptional Link's Awakening again. But, um, it's a similar argument to Mega Man where it's like just because Link to the past is one of the great games in World Time or Majora's Mask or

Okina doesn't mean that those other games aren't also tens because they are. I mean, this is what I'm talking about. These are amazing games. Yeah. The very least, if we're going to put a Zelda game on the first one, you go on there. Okay. But I, but I, I'm going to, you know, we have to kind of split the difference on the I think the, I agree with you in the terms of them being tens, but I just think

that tens change over time. So it's like comparing a 10 then to a 10 now. It's like, it's just, it's different. So it's like, you do got to kind of think about the overall thing. But we'll put Zelda one on there. Yeah, we can, we can keep that. And then, I mean, we can go really far down the rabbit hole here. I think Final Fantasy deserves to be on the list.

Bob Fantasy won? Yeah. Super important game. I know, but that's the thing. Important game is different than just games that we stand by. These are like these are like, specifically with Final Fantasy,

I think that's when it's like, that's when we really just need to choose what our favorite ones are. Because obviously the franchise. I think you're going to have a few of them on there. I can understand the argument against Final Fantasy. My argument for Final Fantasy is again a time and place issue. That game was really unnecessarily deep. even deeper than what inspired it, which is Dragon Quest.

And what I like about it today is that there's still a, if you go on Game Facts, for instance, you can see, like, there's, like, how do you get through the game with only using white mages? How do you get through the game without using magic? How do you get through? Like, there's, people were doing this in the 80s in the early 90s, and I think it's a fun and interesting kind of game, a class-based game. We never seen anything like that before. You saw it on PC, but not in the console space.

It was a very new and different kind of game. But I understand it not being there. Dragon Quest or Dragon Warriors, we know in it. I love all four of those games. I think Dragon Warrior 4 is widely considered the best. role-playing game on the console, and so I think that absolutely belongs on the list. I wouldn't put them all on there. I think there's no need for the Dragon Quest or you

wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Thinking of the Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy franchise as a whole with all the different consoles, which NES ones do you think we need to put on the list? For Dragon Warrior? For both Dragon Warrior and for Final Fantasy. Well, we only had the first Final Fan, I mean, are we counting the Famicom games? Are we counting where they reported?

Because we didn't play them until Origins. I mean, I never played two until PlayStation. And I don't think two or three belong anywhere on the list anyway. Proper two and three, not four and six. I think I would, since you have an version of Final Fantasy, which I understand or a version of me on the list, I would say that you would at very least have to put Dragon Quest or Dragon, as we know, Dragon Warrior four. On the list, I think that I don't think anyone would dispute that either. Dragon Warrior four. Mm-hmm. Okay, boom. Going down with any yes. Greg, do you got any? The pot to the line is. None? No. Zero.

I mean, from things I've heard about or talked about yet, not things I lived. We're putting duck tails on. Iron's kung fu is fucking awesome But doesn't belong anywhere in this is I don't think I can put it I don't think I can put on this In the same way like TMNT The original one I fucking love that game Me too

But yeah It is hard The iram's kung fu can be beaten in like 15 minutes The fun part of that game is Is flipping the score and like getting high scores in it But I don't think it's like an immaculate game The sequel is fucking terrible by the way If anyone's ever seen never come out here

I'm trying to think here Oh god I mean there's so many I mean there are so many games that I think are so special on the end I think there's a significant NES bias. I don't know that. Like I would put all sorts of shit on this list.

Paper boy. I love Paperboy. Paper boy's fun. The NES porter, would you say that the, you know, there was an arcade version of it? The NES port is the one that I know the most and I love it. I think it's perfect. I'd put that on the list. I mean, if you stand by on my, I mean, I put a lot.

I like that. I bought the same paper boy in Mike Boylan's house. Marvel Madness does not make it on the list. Not the port. Because. Super Monkey Ball. does make the list. Banana blitz?

Not banana blitz. Super Monkey Ball 2 on the GameCube. Gotcha. I'll just stop because I like, I'm sure. Let's think about that. I mean, I mean like I look at

Crystalis, Faxanadu. There's like a lot of really interesting games on here that Metroid. I don't think needs to deserve Super Metro. Not.

Yeah, Metroid. I would say Kid Icarus. Really? Yeah. I know some people think, I know some people like the Game Boy version better and I know some people don't like

any of them. Even the new one. I really love Kidikris. Kidikris, again, is a unique, is a unique game, and it's fun, and it's fucking super hard. And there's all sorts of weird systems in it. Again, I think you can make a case for that. I think you can make a case for Contra.

I think you can make a case for Jackal. I think you can make, there's a lot of great games on it. That's why I'm just going to be pretty great. The thing with Concha, though, I go back to it. I think Super Contra is better. Like, I would put that on the list. Like Contra 4. Yeah, I mean, I would too.

I'm not, I've never been super. I mean, my brother was crazy about all these Konami games. Awesome. Contra. I mean, there are games like obscure fucking games that I love code name Viper. Like there's a lot of great fucking games, you know, that are Dr. Mario.

That's another one. I think Dr. Mario is one of the great puzzle games of all time. So do you want to put Dr. Mario on? Yeah, I think you can make the case. I'm looking at Star Tropic. Like there's all sorts of fucked up shit we can put on the list. We can make the whole list all the NES games, Greg.

Okay. Double drag. punch out. You put punch out. Absolutely. Now I put punch out and super punch out. Really? Yeah, the thing is is that...

I feel like that's one of those ones. You choose one. Then I would choose the Nias. Then I would choose Nias. Okay. Absolutely. Fuck yeah, I love punch out. Let me go back to that list.

Let me see. River City Ransom. Ghost and Goblins. Battle Toads. I really love Ninja Turtles. I loved it too. You're talking about the not the arcade. Not the arcade one.

There's one where you're on the, you can go in the sewer. You come down and you fight. You throw. I'm not gonna dispute that. I think that that game is it reminds me a little bit of like Fester's Quest and some other N.S games where I'm like you guys are crazy like these games are not nearly as bad as you're saying they are like I mean it's pretty damn bad but I don't agree I don't agree like it's a time and place thing like I remember playing that game when it came out it was fucking amazing and the strategy of choosing which turtle to go and like sacrificing Raphael because no one gives a fuck about his bullshit little size spinning around using Don't tell come on man yeah you guys are cool I'm put it on the list I'm fine with it I really do I really do believe that people are too hard on some of these games T-T-M-N-N- The way people talk about Fester's quite a you want to fucking kill a man. You know, like, I'm like, this game's awesome.

You guys are crazy. Let's see what else is on here. Balloon fight. Tech Mobile. Yeah, it's a pretty complete list. I mean, I would add more things to it, but I, Powerblade, like there's a bunch of games that are fucking rad, but what?

Act razor. That's an SNAS game. And yes, that will be very high on the list, of course. I'll take you all out of actors on. 19, 19 games that we have on the NES. Okay. And we could go back and prune. Like, I think that of any.

Actually, you can probably get rid of a couple of the Mega Man games, for instance. You could probably get rid of a Castlevania game, but we're not going to do it yet. Gregors. Yeah. Master System. Now, you're good. Keep going. Now, Ghostbusters.

Put Ghostbusters on there. Because that is a legitimately great game. It is the best version of it. Ghostbusters. That's it. Fantasy stars on there. I don't... Alex kids on there.

There are some good games on Master System. I wouldn't stand by it. Exactly. That's the whole thing is I think I'd rather save picks for later on. There we're going as we go. Well, let's jump then to Genesis. just to get Genesis. You got to get you some.

Well, as in the as I started to get more involved with Super Mario World and you watch. Still, let's do, just to give a break for Nintendo for a second. Genesis. What do you got? I mean, where do you want to start with Genesis? Do we want to go down to To J. and Earl? Do we want to give To Jamm and Earl?

Do we want to give Spider-Man a nod? Spider-Man. Carnage? No, just the, the first one, Kingpin. Not Maxim Carnage. Maxim Carnage wasn't as good as people made it. I don't remember. I loved it the name. I remember.

The original. Spider-Man game on Sega was awesome because it was you had to take pictures you had to earn money you had you had web fluid to worry about yet it actually told you story narrative here that you know Kingpin had captured Mary Jane you get to that ending she's slowly getting like put into a bottle or not a bottle into a pit of acid behind you or chain to a rope or whatever while you fight kingpin try to beat him but there was cool things with the yeah taking photos like there was more going on to that game than there probably should have been there was the cool thing of being able like just crawl on the roof of Spider-man and let him chill in his idle position he would just stand up but

stand up upside down. Like, that's pretty dope. That is pretty dope. I'll put it on. We're putting it on. Maxim, Carnage is one of those things people flipped out about

because everybody loved, obviously, Venom, and they loved carnage, and they loved the idea of maximum carnage. But then the idea, the problem was that it was just a beat him up. It was just fucking side scrolling, beat him up.

There wasn't anything going on in there. You know, it's like putting death and return Superman on there. I love that game, but I mean, it's just a fucking beat him up. Do we mean? I'm going to say,

I think NHL 94 should be on the list. Agreed, 100%. I think, to this day consider the best hockey game ever and it's certainly and there is a nostalgia factor I think a lot of it has to do

with the jump from 93 before they even dated them to 94 was just such a quantum leap again and we played it just you know not so long ago on kind of funny games

so I would put that on there I mean I'd also think people would make a case for Fantasy Star 4 and maybe even Fantasy Star 2 but again I wasn't a huge fantasy star guy at that time so I just think people

are gonna be upset if those games aren't on the list at least four but it's not their list I guess. Yeah. Like is there a fantasy star you stand by? No, I mean the only one I really remember very deeply is two, which I think is a great game. And I only remember it because like I told you guys, my my buddies that live next door to me when I grew up had a master system and a genesis and an NES and NSN. But there were my whole experience. Their oldest brother was really in a

role playing game. So that's how I got in a Dragon Warrior and all those kinds of things as well in addition to my brother. And so I played fantasy star and watched Fantasy Star and watch Fantasy start through them as a kid. And I didn't start playing them until actually like really getting deep into them on my own until the virtual console. And Fantasy Star 2 I like jumped. I loved it. But again, I don't know that I would. I mean, there's way better role playing games.

Fantasy Starts him. Right here. I mean, this is where we're getting. I mean, you got to put Road Rush 2 on here. Road rash too. Road rash too. Okay. The introduction of the chain.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Fucking drive and swinging that fucking shit above your head knocking people off. That was awesome. Road rash was amazing. Road rash is one of those games that's like burned. into my brain in terms of it. I don't stand by it,

but I'm sure other people do with Mickey Castle of Illusion. Oh, Castle Volusion. People love that. I didn't want it and I got it. And I was like, whatever. And I could.

Here's my thing. Yeah. As the Disney guy. Yeah. I'm going to drop some. Here we go. Some truth bombs. Some truth bombs about to happen.

The Genesis and Super Nintendo Disney platformer games. Yeah. Awesome. Super great. Not actually good games. People think that they're good games. They're not. Aladdin.

Lion King. of the Mickey games, all of them. Like, they were too floaty. Didn't really feel right. It was just that the world's so great because they were Disney. So I say none of them make the list. I was tossing out there

because I thought you have something for it. Gunstar Heroes, I want to put on the... Yeah, okay. I think you can make the case for that. That's Vincent Genito's favorite game of all time. I get it, man. That game's awesome. Yeah, it is cool.

What about Altered Beast? No, he's not even... Altred Beasts might be the worst game. Why did you bring that up? Why would you even bring that up? You make the case that that would be the worst game ever. I look to you, Tim, to decide what Sonic goes on there. A Sonic goes on.

I stand by that, but I understand it just needs to be one. Because I would make the case for two and three. I do it. I do it. I really feel, you know what? I'm going to do it. I got you. I back you with two.

If we have to... Go to all the Mega Man games on those. Because the thing is, two is my favorite. Three is better. And three is a sign of Sonic being a good game. So I'm going to go, we'll put it here, and we can change it later. If necessary. I want to put it.

I put a Streets Rage on here, but I think Streets Rage 2 was the better one, right? It's been so long since I played Street Shridge Rage. Shish Arrish Rage. Oh, let's see. Going through this, we got, oh, there's the Shinobi games. They're cool, but they're not worth of the. Yeah, exactly. I traded my S&S to my friend Jason in middle school so I can play Shinobi and my mom got in trouble and,

or my mom got me in trouble and I had to go back and trade my S&S back to it. And it was the best thing my mom ever did for me. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. I traded him Final Fantasy 3 and my S&S and my S&S. He asked for Shinobi and his Genesis. My mom's like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

Okay, I take it back. I said Sonic 3. Sonic 3 and Knuckles, which is semi-cheating, but I don't give a fuck. This is my list. It's your list, do you know what you want? Yeah. You got to live. I'm living, man.

Got them glad. All right. Rocket Night Adventures. No. No. I think we're done. I liked Rye Star a lot. There were certain games out there that I liked, but I would never put them on the line.

That's the problem is like, I feel like Genesis did have a lot of, lot of good platformers just compared to Super Nintendo was like nah bro like they're all great platformers uh ghost and ghouls let's see mortal combat oh maybe moral combat too was really good on genesis i think that is the like favorite version of it but bloodlines i love that game it's maybe my favorite genesis game actually but on conservative bloodlines do you want it does it go yeah i think so i i remember i remember before i owned a genesis my buddy, Steven, who was, Stephen, who was the other goalie on my hockey team for a few years when I was a kid,

had a Genesis week to go rent games, and we rented that game, and I was just fucking blown away. I was like, I can't believe how far Castlevania's coming. Even, I mean, because that game's a little later than Super Castlevania where it's like, wow, impressive game. And then later in 1999 or so, I found a sealed copy of it at Toys R Us and bought it. Nice. You still got it?

Yep. Comic Zone. No, you don't want Compton. Comic Zone sucks. I hate that fucking game. I'm so sick of people bringing that game up. That game fucking sucks. It was a cool idea.

It did not at all. No, it was not. NBA jam. I loved NBA jam, but it's not one I think I have to scream out to put on this list. We're talking about just if there's a hundred slots, I'm not giving an NBA jam one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think a big question is Mortal Kombat too. Does it go on the list? Because I say no. Okay. Because I say like, we're not fighting game guys. No.

And Super Street Fighter 2 hyper edition or whatever the fuck. The last one. Yeah, that will be on the list. That does make the list. list. So I think that that beats the moral combat. So here's the thing is down in San Diego a few months ago, I went to an arcade and I played Moral Kombat two for the first time and a long time. And I'm like, this game's terrible. Like I really, like, I'm like, I had all three Moral Kombat games, the bullshit S&S versions.

And the, and they're bad games. Like, they're just not good. Like when you put them, it really is the way I feel when you put Sonic next to Mario and maybe Sonic looks good on its own, but when you put it next to something that's way better than it, then Sonic doesn't look so good anymore. And when you put Moral Kombat next to Street Fighter, it's like, How could you possibly think this is good? You know, it feels like shit. And I had a, like, I was so excited when I got Mortal Kombat. And I loved it those games when I was a kid, but I went back with, man, these games are bad.

Well, it was the blood and it was the fatalities and it was all this different stuff. That was we didn't even have that Super Nintendo. Yeah, that's bullshit. No, Genesis, that's what I was watching this fucking tear people apart, rip out spines, cut people open with Cano's hat and shit. All right. Before we jump to S&ES, let's do Game Boy. Oh, okay. So Game Boy.

We got Donkey Kong 94. We got Tetris. Pokemon, you brought up. I don't think it makes it. I'm with you. And I know that we are in like rare in the world here

because people love that game. But I don't know. There's something about it. I argue that the Oracle games are way better. Oh, they're way super. I don't know that they need to make it either. You may, you could choose one or the other

and I'm not even sure. I don't remember what the difference is or between them anymore. Seasons was more action-oriented and Ages was more puzzle-oriented. I preferred. seasons. Yeah, I don't remember which one I had anymore. I think I had the blue one.

That was ages. Ages. Ages. Yeah. Those are great games, but I don't know. Link's Awakening, I really think Link's Awakening until Minish Cap maybe was the worst Zelda game. And I'm not talking about, again, like the fucking weird ones that never came out here or Satelliw you shit. Like I'm talking about the Zelda games we know.

Until Minish Cap, I was like, Link's Awakening is by far the word Zelda game. And then Minish Cap came out. And then Spirit Tracks came out. and then all this other shit. Nick loves Spirit tracks. I remember, I was so excited where that game came out. And then I used an hourglass.

And then I, oh, okay. That was the one. And then I was like, why can't I control him with a deed? And I was like, and I was the end of that. That was the end of that. Pokemon, obviously.

Yes. So my thing is looking at the Pokemon franchise as a whole, I say that Pokemon red slash blue and Pokemon gold slash silver. Both of those make the list. And I don't think we need to put

any other Pokemon games. Yeah, I don't think yellow needs to be on now in that case though I don't think the Game Boy versions I think Pokemon fire red and leaf green on GBA and Pokemon heart gold and silver I might agree with you with gold and silver but um Pokemon red and blue the OG ones like again we're we are differentiating what's important from what's great or whatever but those games I mean I mean yeah you know what I would put I would at least we'll do red and blue on on game boy I think I think you I think that's that's a no-brainer to me um

So, I mean, there are a lot of good Game Boy games. The thing is like Kirby, Metroid 2. I don't know like where you. Super Mario Land, two. One's whatever. One does it make the list. Yeah, one's a little weird. Two, yeah.

One was my first, uh, Mario game ever? Yeah, man. First Nintendo is from there. It was the first Nintendo's, man. Yeah. I would put two on there. And I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, and I don't know how you feel about Metroid two, but I think that that game is a really special.

Um, but if we don't have the original Metroid on I feel like Metroid one's better than two yeah I Super Metroid is in such a different league Super Metro did it right Metroid was such a good idea

it just didn't have the power and ability to be what it wanted to be yeah yeah I can stand by that the interesting thing here is like where do the Mega Man games come in on this one and I think you gotta put

at least one on there and I'm having a I'm struggling between Dr. Wiley's Revenge which is the first one which is a mixture of one and two and the first one fifth one, which is its own unique game where you're fighting robots for all the different planets. I think you have to put Mega Man 5 on there for Game Boy.

I think that that game is fucking rad. I think they're all really good. The impressive thing about those games was that they were straight, snipped fusion ports of the NES Mega Man games. Like literally, I think two was literally half two and half three. Three was literally half three and half four. Like, it was just weird. That's really weird.

So like you'd fight four robot masters from the second one. Then you'd fight four robot masters from the third one. Then you'd go. But the stages were like, these like slightly altered versions. I have no idea how the fuck they made it work. And it was very impressive stuff. I think they talked about,

I think in Afune in the, in the Udun book, the art book, the 25th anniversary art book, talks a lot about that shit about how it was really cool that they got those games to work. But I think five,

which was a Game Boy, a Game Boy, what was it, what was it, what was it, Game Boy Color? Yeah. The one with the,

like the very limited. I don't know the mega man in the PowerPoint games at all. I think that, yeah, it's a very late game. I guess is what I'm saying. You know what the more I think about it I think I got to put Oracle of seasons on those games are awesome and then not even know the cut later, but

Zelda I think Ages was the one I played but I don't really remember anymore. It's been a long time the uh, I don't know those games were I was so stoked about those games when they came out they were very late too you know yeah um I want to say like 2000 so that 99 that sounds right very late it's 10 years after the handheld came out I think that's it Game Boy. Yeah, I would say so, too. So Game Boy has this long-ranging. If you watch, for instance, Jeremy Parrish's Game Boy World show, there's an assinide amount of Game Boy games, like tons of them. And they're really bad. Well, it's because it's game boy lasted forever, right? From like 89 to 2000, 2001. Yeah, because like even the Game Boy Color and shit, like there was some exclusive games. Yeah, pocket and color kept it going. Yeah, I agree.

Wario Land is one that a lot of people like. I didn't like it. I'm not down. People love it, But I'm not down. Let's see. Now, let's go to Super Nintendo. Greg. Beer for a while to. Start it off. Super Mario World.

Put it on there. Don't fuck around. Don't be an asshole, Tim. That's easy. I know it is, but it's got it. That's why it's got to go first. I would put an act razor on here for sure. I think that's easily one of the best N-A-S games.

Are you putting Super Metroid on him? I like don't like Super Metroid as much as Tim. But I wouldn't deny that. Because the thing is that we got to represent the Metroid franchise in here. I think Metroid Prime will be represented. I think Metroid and I think Super Metroid like definitely get the the polls.

Let's just put Zelda linked to the past. Yes. That's obvious. I would put, now, so here's where things get created and Final Fantasy 2 and Final Fantasy 3. It's just what you're going to call them and they both are clearly on the list.

I don't know where, that's where we played them and that's what we knew them as. So you can put Final Fantasy 2 and 4 in parentheses and Final Fantasy 3, 6 in parentheses. We can talk about the NES ports but they're not as good. And that is the native PlayStation ports, but they're not as good. And that is the native play.

in which we play those games. And I think you can very easily make the argument that those are the two best SNES games. I know a lot of people wouldn't agree with that, but you could make that case. Especially if you have a certain inclination towards those kinds of games. Like, see, I'd put six on there.

I don't know if I would put it. Oh, you're crazy. I got to, I got to insist you put, okay, works for me. You got to, you got to put it on there. I mean, I'm just going to call it by it's proper. So that's five and six, right? It's four and six.

Four and six. Super, so you were talking about Street Fighter. I would put Super Street Fighter. Which one is it? Super Street Fighter 2 Hyper Championship Edition, right? Yeah, well, that was the one, that was the one before they added Cammy and DJ, right? I want the one with the whole cast. Yes.

What the fuck was that one called? Super Street Fighter 2 Hyper Fighting Edition. Hyper Fighting Edition, that's what it was, not Championship. Championship was the original one. Yeah. And then Super Street Fighter was the one that, where they added Sagget and Ball Rock. Super Street Fighter 2 turbo What's the thing?

No, yeah, that's the one too. I think we had them all. I remember my brother driving into the city to buy the original Street Fighter 2 and I was like so amazed by it. I was obsessed with that game. I was just obsessing. Now, the thing with the Super Nintendo

and this is where things get hard with remasters and all this shit, I would argue that the best game of all time, if you're just talking by a cart is Super Mario All-Stars Plus World. That thing is the best. And I know that it gets iffy and weird, but that's the one I grew up with,

And I prefer those to the NES ports, which I know is blasphemy. But the way that they feel the physics of them, they're fine. I don't like the graphical upgrades. That's the ones with the- Oh, I love them. It looks so good. It does look good, but it's not, they're not, it's not the games, you know? But I wouldn't disagree.

I think All-Stars, we talked about it in one of the episodes of Colin was right. I mean, that was when collections were rare and when they really had resonance. And that was a fucking great. I bought it. Everyone bought that. Everyone had that on Super Nintendo. That was the first game I own because it came with my Super Nintendo. It was a bundle packing.

and it was the addition that also included Super Mario World. So you got Mario 1, 2, 3, World, and lost levels, which is hard as fuck. Doesn't make the list, but shout out to that shit. Yeah, lots of levels is rough. But yeah, I don't know what to do with that. Because I think that she gets an honorable mention that it would definitely be my number one in life.

But I do think that each game deserves its own spot on the NAS side. Where do you come down on Chrono Trigger? So I think Chrono Trigger is a fantastic game I think you could put it on the list I think you would put it on the list I still think that people talk about it like it's better than I remember it being like it is I mean I've played it many times

I think it's a really special game I think the Final Fantasy games are better but I think Chrono Triggers and an amazing feat and again a game that was doing things that were well out of its time a bunch of different endings and all that kind of and non-linearity I give it to Chrono Trigger

I don't give it to Chrono Cross No, no, no, I wouldn't give it to Crown Cross either. Although my buddy Corey was obsessed with Crownercross, too. I would agree with you that. I think Trigger is obviously the better game. Let's see. I don't put Secret of Man on there. Would you?

I would. I love that game. But, again, we're already a little long in the tooth here with a lot of the... We're going to have to cut things out, so that probably would be a game that would just be cut out. So we might as well just cut it out now. Okay. Super Mario RPG. I don't know.

I don't think it. I don't think so either. I love that game. But I yeah. Yeah. I, I, yeah,

no. It's great, but I, I wouldn't put it in my, in my top. Um, two games I insist on. Donkey Kong country two and Yoshi's Island.

You love that. I would agree with Yosh's Island, but I know how you feel about it. I'm not going to begrudge you that. Donkey Kong country two is fine. I, I think you can make a case for any of them. Um,

I think two is so much better than the first one. Three sucks. Yeah, three is, three is just, yeah, I guess two is fine. is one of the best platformers of all time.

I was, I pergrudgingly even at the time liked Donkey Kong Country. I remember the Nintendo Power cover and I was like, I don't give a fuck. Because I was so getting into RPGs at the time I didn't care about any of this shit and Donkey Kong was so archaic to me and they really did something special with it.

But yeah, I have no problem with it being on the list. I think Mega Man X should absolutely be on the list. I don't think there's any question about that. I would, again, so this is where like X, X2 and X3 are all great and a lot of people would say that they got better. X, excuse me, Burbank. X is the one that's most nostalgic for me. I think X3 is the best one.

I was playing a lot of X2 in particular with my nephew when I went home for Thanksgiving. That game's phenomenal. But again, we're going to have to prune. So I would put, I would just put that. I definitely stand by X. I'm not an earthbound guy. I'm not either.

I mean, it's fine. But it's not my thing. P.K. Fire. Contra 3. Early I said it was 4. 3 is what it is. I think that you need to have a contra game. And I think the 3 is the right.

call. Sure. I don't know if you need a Contra game actually because there's the Metal Slug games. Metal Slug 3. Contra was great. You're you're talking shit. The Contra is amazing, but Metal Slug is better. It's more stylistic. It adds more to it. The game plays just as good. It's different though, I think too. Contra means more though. No. Yeah. Metal slug. Metal slug I think is bigger than Contra, but but the, but at that time, metal slug didn't exist. So, um, I don't I mean, I would still, I mean, if we're going to put a contra game, I'd put the NES one on. Over Shadows Soldier? Yeah, I mean, again, I think it's more of a, I love the NES and I have a nostalgic element

to, or the contra. If you think that that one belongs in there, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you know. I think a contra game should be on there. We don't really have any of that kind of game. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. On the list. When you're pruning down to 100, I think I would put metal slug three over Contra.

But for now, whatever. Let's just put Contra 3. Turtles in time Another game I love that game but I love it But I just feel like that style of game is It just doesn't hold up Like the just side scrolling like beat them up

Like having streets of rage I think is enough Like that that added a bit more depth Whereas like all the license stuff The Simpsons X-Men Ninja turtles fantastic awesome great But like I don't think that you need to put them on a 100 list What about Super Castlevania? You were making that case for that earlier

I think, I mean, that's the, I had experience with that game, and the NES ones were frustrated to me. And I think that Super Nintendo just kind of solved a lot of problems and made these games fun. I think you should put Super Castlevania on the list, but there ain't no shame to have it as much Castlevania as possible on here. You haven't seen the last of it. Friends. A friends. Monomy. Kirby Superstar. I don't get, there's no Kirby game that I stand by. I think they're fine. I think they're fun, but they're vanilla and, um, Um, easy.

So yeah, I don't, I don't think that they're worth it having on there. Super punch out. No, I think we have the first one on there. Yeah. Pilot wings on. Tetris attack. Tetris attack makes the goddamn list. Okay.

And I mean, honestly, any version of it. Game Boy, Super Nintendo, Pokemon Puzzle League on N64, like, whatever it is. But I will choose Tetris attack on Super Nintendo based on my boy, Yoshi. The Yosh. Occlusion a guy, Superstar Wars. Don't call him Yoshi. These are some interesting. The Super Star Wars games are great, but

I put them in the same category as the Disney games where it's like, yeah, they're great, but they're not really. No, and you can... Which one do you choose? Sunset Riders is fucking dope. I don't even know if I know what that is. Just like, side scrolling, shoot them. Western game.

The badass soundtrack. Ousina Gaya. I was excited when that came up. I was secret of Evermore. Fucking Pilot Wings. Pilot Wings fucking sucks. Oh, I hate that game. Bomber Man.

I don't think I played Super. I think the best version of like do you guys agree that a version of bomber man? No I personally don't know but um Saturn bomber man oh I don't I never played Saturn bomber man was the fucking shit but all right all right I don't stand by it that much remember when they rebooted bottomerman man they made them all like badass did that game ever actually come out I can't remember I don't think it did I think they just got announced and everybody's like no and they stopped yeah all right I'm pretty complete list here I'm sure I'm sure we might be missing some shit, but whatever's.

We're moving on. Now, y'all master's just as one game. As you'd expect. Is N64 the right place to go from here? Yeah, N64. PS1 and Saturn. PS1 technically came out first, but it doesn't matter.

Yeah, whatever. There's no science here. Doing N64. Yeah. Super Mario 64. Of course. And then both Zelda's, I think he'll put on there as well. Yes, agreed.

Ocarina, Majora. Both fantastic. W.W.F. No, Mur. C. Best wrestling game in all time. What do you want to do about Golden I? We fucked with it hardcore, but then you go back now and it's so hard to play and do all this different stuff.

Yes. Yes. Gold-Nye is so good. You make solid points. I mean, it's just our, you know, the nebulous list here and the nebulous rules we've set up here. Do we fuck with Golden I? We did fuck with Golden I nonstop. And I think that's why it gets on.

I think that you added because it did. So much. Change the game. You know what I mean? We everybody has so many stories. Wars. I mean, whatever.

Between Golden Eye and Perfect Dark, I think that the argument can be made, I think Perfect Dark is obviously a better game, but it's not going to stand by GoldenEye. Yeah, yeah.

GoldenE is the one you still talk about. I'm throwing out. $6.4. Whatever. The battle mode alone makes it fucking awesome. Whatever. It was fine. It was no double dash.

We'll get to double dash soon enough. Now I'm going to do the same thing that I think you're on the same. I would put smash on here. I wouldn't. I loved this one like, man, but I mean,

I mean, this is just what games we fucked with or did. I mean, like, this is another game that I played nonstop. But when you look at the Smash franchise. Sure. But we said we can have all these different things. We can. And I think I'd have all of them except for 64. Because we're hating assager.

You can cut it now because I'm sure that you get pruned out eventually. But I'm still throwing it out there. So it was heard. Okay. I want to make sure that they know it was heard. I mean, I fucking love Smash. But melee is like, they just fucking took it to the next level. And then brawl.

You tripped. Took it to the next level and took a side step. And then we pushed it ahead. But I would make a case, although I don't know which one you would necessarily choose. I love Mario Party. And I felt like that was a really special game on N64. And the first one I think was extraordinarily good. I mean, the first three were great.

Yeah. I think two is probably the safest best in terms of collection of mini games. But is this the one that really makes the list, you think? I feel like this is another one that will end up getting cut. But I don't mind. Again, we can have 10,000 games on the list. Yep. There are no rules in Tim Gatti's list worlds.

Mario. Nope. Party. I don't know. I think even at the end of the day, a Mario Party needs to be there. Okay. And I think the two is the right answer. Three was the Western one.

Things got weird. I'm in a position with N64 where there are actually quite a few games I love on there, but I don't think would make the list or be on the list for everyone. Like I think Castlevania 64 and Legacy of Darkness are both underrated games and they're great. I love hybrid heaven. there's certain there's certain games on there where I'm like You know I think that n64 had a decently strong

I think people would obviously make a case for conquer And so like that but I wouldn't put those games on there Conquer's great but it's I wouldn't put it there either Star Fox 64 for me I love Star Fox and I think that game is the best the series will ever be So I also think although it's controversial and doesn't really hold up that I hated Pilo Wings on SNES but Pile Wings on N64 was had something It was better. I mean,

and I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that we should have anything to play. Yeah, that was it. That's all you had. And this is something that I know people will be upset about, but again, it's my lesson,

that Bantrick Zui and Tui did nothing for me, and I never really gone into them. I mean, neither. Greg. I was way out of platform. No,

I did not like that. Those didn't click for me. Pokemon Stadium. Ooh, F0X. Pokemon Snap, son. Pokemon Snap. I can't do it. I can't bring myself to give it.

Give a spot to Pokemon Snap, even though I love it. Rogue Squadron. Ooh. Ooh. But that's a game that's like as cool as it was. It's not great anymore. Shadows of the Empire.

Yeah. But that's another, Shadows of the Empire to me is a game. It feels like an N-E-S game on an N-64 where it's like almost, guys, almost. I was so enamored with that game I really was. 1080 snowboarding. Good Lord. Wave race.

Tarak. Wave race. Tarok, I mean, it was another one that like cerebral bore and, I think it might have been Tarak too or whatever, but it doesn't matter of like, Tarak was hot for the time. Again, I think it'd be one of the ones that gets cut. That's the thing is right. I think you boil that down to golden eye to represent. Exactly.

That. Yoshi's story does not make the goddamn list. You can die on a fucking fire. Wow. He went there, Yosh. I'm sorry. You give us Yoshi's Island and you go to this bullshit. Nah.

Nah, son. Now, Mario Golf made its debut there. Yeah, but we're not going to eat. That's a great game, but Toastal Tour. It's going to get it. Okay. Got to agree with you there, Greg.

Beatle Adventure Racing Fantastic racing game Late in the N64's life Some of the longest tracks Ever, Superfund, not gonna make the list Okay Is Superman 64 Star Wars episode 1 racer

Want to give you a shout out But I'm sorry by The two controllers Sorry bud, yeah And cruising USA Cruising World Cruising Exotica You did something

Fun and Arcade You did something good Um I think that's it Okay Man, that sounds wrong, though If they come to you... It does sound wrong, but we're going to have to parse things down anyway,

so this is a pretty good complete list. Diddy Kong Racing didn't do anything for me. Wrote the guide for that on when it came to... DS? DS, yes. Oh, Paper Mario. Nah, I can't give it to the original either. A thousand-in-door, perhaps.

Yeah, okay, cool. Moving on to that there, PlayStation 1. Put it on the board. Metal Gear Solid. We can be here for a while, I think. Final fantasy seven. Final fantasy nine. Final fantasy tactics.

Wild arms. Tony Hawks. Pro Skater. Oh, man, this gets hard. The first one meant the most to me, but the second one was way better. That's my thing. The first one I love,

two is the 10 out of 10 classic that everybody loves. But I'm going to be honest, like Tony Hawk's pro skaters is a franchise that means so much to me that it needs to be on this list. I feel like it needs to be represented correctly. And I don't think it deserves two spots.

Yeah, I would agree with you So I think I might have to give it to Four I feel like four is the most complete game Okay in the whole franchise Then we wait So I'm a wait I'm a wait

I mean I love you Tony hi Symphony the night Yes yes of course Jesus Thank you Greg No problem I knew you were good for something And my good looks Kevin give me more one

I just did Oh God Kevin's having too much fun With the buttons don't worry about it I mean the big question Tim. Oh, try and motherfucking stop me. It's happening. I'll only do one and a half because I'm telling you, I got damn now. There's no way crash team racing's not on this list. Okay. So CTR for sure. Now, which crash do I give it to? I've recently beat two. I'm trying to hold off on three to get a little closer to the remastered thing. But three is my fucking favorite. So for now, I'm saying three. I fucking stand. I defer. I mean, because the list is getting, we're getting so meaty with the list. Like I've, I've, I basically have everything I would represent here on this list already, so I step back at this point, including Metal Gear.

I mean, I think those first six games are immaculate. That's an immaculate list of games. Incredible list of games. It really is. Metal Gear Solid. I just love this subtle dig at Crash. Oh, I can't speak. Those were six games.

He was writing Crash Team Racing. I don't think I even played that game. Crash Team Racing. I mean, Crash Team Racing, honestly, like, I'm just going to do it right now. I'm going back to the N64 and I'm deleting Mario Car 64. Wow. Uh, yeah. Damn, Daniel.

You see the YouTube rewind video? No. Oh, yeah, I did see. He's in and he steps out. And it's a moment. It's like, God, I mean, there's so much shit on PlayStation. Uh, I mean, we can go down the fucking rabbit hole on PS1. But the, the, the, quite, like, very deep down the rabbit all.

Brayfencer Musashi. Thousy. A thousand arms. Twist a metal. Twist metal two. Yeah, that's one you're going to sit for. Dack. Dach it's ogre.

But here's the thing. Yeah. Two? Black. Only one deserves it. I think do black. Okay. Hold it for black.

Resident Evil. Resident Evil. Resident Evil. Resident Evil 2. Resident Evil 3. Silent Hill. Resident Evil 3. Silent Hill.

And of course. Silent Hill 2. So all of those games. Do you think any actually make it? Keeping in mind, remake. Yes. Okay. That's a great point.

So that takes the original off the board. Nemesis on Dream I think was the one people loved, right? Code Veronica. Oh, no, Code Veronica. That's the one I'm thinking of. Okay, yes. That was my first Resident Evil played on PS2 when it finally got ported over. Yeah. Nemesis is three, right? Yeah. Okay, no, that's the one. Yeah, people only like three. People love two.

Two. But I personally, I say remake, that's it and... And Resident Evil Zero. No. You see the shit that came out yesterday for the new Resident Evil CG movie where it's Rebecca all grown up? Oh, interesting. Looking damn good. Interesting. there were games so I love Siphon filter at the time

and all those but they don't stay No no no yeah Shout out to Siphon. It's worth giving the shout out for That was my finish reaction to But Metal Gear is such a better game Not to meant that when you go back

And play Siphil's like what this is But Twin Snakes This is what I was going to say But no If we're going to make the argument That certain game like remake is going to GameCube will replace this then

Twin Snakes No twin snakes is good It is not Metal Gear solid though It breaks it First person breaks it Silicon Knights bruce You fucking just back yourself into the corner against Great Fox. You're like, bam, bam, bam, bam.

And Great Fox is coming. Make me feel a lot. That's an interesting one because I know that I'm on the wrong side of it. I like Twin Snakes better than the OG one. And I think that a lot of that has to do with the one. I played it. Sure. And also just being able to play it now.

MGS 1 is rough to play now. Twin Snakes is not, but it does make it too easy. Yeah. But, you know, for you, I'll give you. I'll give you it. Yeah, I'll give you it. No, that's because you like the racist. I can't believe I'm talking to the famous solid snake.

Shut up, me. Like, Jesus, who let this go through? I would give a shout out to Parapa the rapper. A shout out, though, not a, not a spot. Yeah, I would if the game was five times longer than it is. But the game can literally be beaten in like 20 minutes. Yeah, I don't. That was great, but shout out.

That was really one of the, that was a paradigm shifting game for me just in the sense of like, I really didn't know that game's, could even do that or be that way. And then that opened up a whole window into DDR and all these kinds of things later, what Kami was doing. And I don't know. ADDR will make the list. I'm not sure which one.

I loved the DDR. DDR extreme on the PlayStation 2. I would make an argument that it could be between that or DDR Max. I remember those stupid mats that he had to buy and I break the shit out of them. Yeah, go buy another one. I played a lot of D. Xenogers. Xeno Gears is incomplete

I think it's a great game Again I would say Braithfer Musashi should be on the list I know a lot of people don't know or like that game as much as I do But again if we're gonna have to start cutting and calling the list Then those are the kinds of things that I go I see it on there street fighter alpha three I would make a great case for street fire alpha three I game fucking rules It's awesome rules And I think

My favorite Chunley costume outfit Whatever I call it Just like my favorite cast of all of characters Yeah like just like the most complete cast That's crazy Cody's in it and all these like I like, I think it's, I was obsessed with Cody, not from playing as I'm, but just like, I love the idea of this character from really another franchise coming in and he's handcuffed and it's all cool. And I was, I was actually pretty nasty at that game, so I loved it. I would put Alpha 3 on the list.

I want to give it, I want to, do you, I'll give you Alpha 3. We'll put it there. Where are we at? PS1. Street Fighter. That's not an insult to Alpha 2. It's not an insult to Street Fighter versus X-Men or anything. Those are all good games.

but I think that that was the best one. Yeah. Speaking of that, Marvel's Capcom, can't give it to one. No, two. And then you go to Dreamcast for that. Yes, absolutely.

I want to give a shout to Spiro. I'm not going to put it on the list. Love Spiro, but I get it. I get it, guys. As long as you get it. I got to be careful with my I feel we're missing things. I feel we're definitely missing things.

Spiral one, amazing. Spire 2, even better. Spire 3, you're the dragon. Didn't like it as much. I'm racking my brain trying to figure out the games that you guys would actually care about

on PS 1. Because I can rattle off 100 of these fucking games. When you guys are on. Great game, but yeah, no, it doesn't do it. Wight out, never been a fan. If zero's better. Tomb Raider, none of them. No, those games don't hold the list. That's, yeah, but it's shout out for sure to them. Definitely. For in the moment of what they meant.

Yeah. I think that's probably fine. I'm good to, I'm good to move on. Good to move on from that. Saturn. There are a few that you could make a case where I think everyone would make the case for Panzer Dragoon Saga. Yep. I agree. Yeah, I mean, people adored that game was also super hard to find

as people might remember. Very underprinted, very rare game. And not enough on reals games like that. Like Star Fox, I love it. I think Star Fox, to me, is better just because of the characters and shit. But Panzer Dragon is a better game.

What else? You had a Saturn, Greg. So what did you care about? Knights into Dreams. Shout out to Knights. But I think it gets a shout out, right? Just a shot. Yeah, that's the thing.

It's like, there was a lot of great experiences I had on my Saturn, but I'm games on the top. top 100 that I stand behind and get a seal of approval. That's a tougher sell it feels like on everything. I would, I would just at least a shout out to Bomberman on Saturn. Sure. For the multiplayer alone.

Saturn game. But it's like, yeah, like virtual cops on here. It's like, I remember playing that and enjoying it. But I mean, I don't need to put it up there. People love radiant silver gun. I don't have enough experience with it. And shining force. Or is it shining in the darkness on what the fuck one was it?

Shining Force three. Yeah, that's the one. Can you go over to the right? Colin said, can you go over to the right? You're welcome, Kevin. I'm there for you. Tony USA. Yeah, Dragon Force people love too.

But my experience with Saturn is literally limited to very few games. I first played Panzer Dragon Taga, and I was exposed to Saturn. My brother lived with this guy named Ducky. Ducky. In Philadelphia, and he had a Saturn. That's awesome. So that was my initial exposure to Saturn. He'll have your brother living in a John Huse.

Humes. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, just to let it go. All right, cool. So Saturn, yeah, we just got Panzer Dragon. Good enough. You moved up. It's Dreamcast now.

We are now moving on. Sequentially. To Dreamcast. Here we can make some interesting takes here. Crazy fucking taxes. Yes. I mean, I think you have crazy taxi. I also think you put Power Stone on it.

Now, which Power Stone? Two. Yeah. Definitely. And Marvel versus Capcom. Yep. Two. Two.

Um, I mean, again, if we're gonna be calling, I mean, I, I, there were games that I fucking loved on Dreamcast, like that people were like, like, I loved Blue Stinger and all these games. People, people were like, C man. I was gonna say, I was fucking hated C man. Oh, God, I hated that game. It's creep me out. Buddy of mine was into that too, Cody. Um, Cody. Cody. Cody and Ducky out on an adventure planes of C, man. I wonder what Ducky's up to. I wonder what his real name was. The, uh, why they call him Ducky? I have no idea. I was like literally 12. that was just who that was that was that man's name you didn't have any follow-up questions but Shenmu I don't my thing

we didn't fuck with Shem-Mew No Shem-Mu is good But again like no Now I gotta put it out there Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 Suck I'm sorry guys Yeah they're not good I'm really fucking sorry I don't

I feel like people are lying to themselves That they like those games Because those are not good At the time I did like Sonic Adventure Although it was because I just needed something to play on it There's things about them Aspects about them that are cool Escape from the city and the snowboarding

Sonic Adventure 2 is great, but I mean it's not that great. JetSet Radio Future. Soul caliber. Now Yeah. GameCube? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, okay so yeah, yeah, all right, we'll hold on. Skies of Arcadia. Shout out the skies of Arcadia, although also on GameCube, yeah. GameCube got a

game of his second life to Dreamcast. I was going to second star just dumping shit there. Shout out, although I didn't play it, I knew a lot of people that did and a lot of fantasy star online. people fucking loved it and I think it's still running on private servers to this day by the way Space Channel 5

Sig's answer to Parapa, nope shout out move on Samba di Amigo Shamba de Amigo Shout out to that Yeah shout out Rez first came out there Choo Choo Rocket

Shout out Oh Ikuruga There's a They had a really I mean we have to remember Dreamcast had 17 months on the market.

And in that short in America, because it was 999, it was discontinued I think April 2001. And in that short amount of time, I don't know if you have a console that accumulated

that many fucking good games in less than 18 months. So shout out to Dreamcast generally. You know, really great console. And in the middle console, it's failed for the same reason Wii U failed.

You have to follow certain protocols. How's the dead? What? Typing of the dead. For the record, I think the Dreamcast was ahead of its time. the Wii, I don't think it was.

That's true. So they didn't feel, they were both middle consoles that, yeah, that led to part of the problem. But shout out also to NBA 2K and NBA 2K1. Those are both great games. Yeah. Amazing games. I personally couldn't stand by it because of NBA Street volume. And also, well, yes, there are better games on PS2 and another one.

I mean, NBA 2K 17, but the, but also the online component of it was what really made those games tick. And obviously you can't do that anymore because I really was flabbergasted playing those games online in like 2000. I was like this is unbelievable. A little keyboard plugged in. It's like this is insane. Like I don't understand how this is possible.

This is so cool. I don't know who the fuck I'm playing against, but you guys like, Legacy of Kane, Soul Reaver and all those. I'm not into those. I played them. They were fun, but yeah, no,

no, no, neither. Don't need to be on list. Yeah. I think we have a pretty complete list. Yeah. Rayman 2. And again, shout out.

I like you, but you don't make the list. You don't love you. Okay, cool. We are done with the drive cast. Now we get on a PS2. And you better row yeah Metal Gear Salah two

Yep Sons of Liberty The best of Metal Gear game You're crazy Fat man I love how Kevin's like Not even half asleep 90% of sleep

But then his brain heard Metal Gear Solid too He's there He's back for you Animusha Three Here we go Here come the arguments

No Two does not make the god damn list. Four. No. Dawn of Dreams, Brough, Don of Dreams.

Oh my God. I think we can both agree the first one belongs on the list. I can never agree with you that the third one's going to belong on the list. If you really feel passionately about it, you can put it on it. I love it.

I can't. I fucking love that. I'm going to say that we double elimination ourselves. I'll lose three. You lose two. Fine. And four.

So we'll do one and four then. No. Okay. Just rely. We'll put it. Don't dream is legit, dude. And that was the last Animushi game we ever got.

can't even hate on it. I can't even hate on it. I didn't play it out of just outrage. I want Saminooske. That's why I didn't like two either. It was very late too. I think it's 2006. I don't know if I remember heard of it.

But okay. So, going back to Metal Gear. Yeah. Metal Gear Solid 3. Yeah. Doesn't make the list. Not to me, but.

I say no. It's a fucking awesome game. It's my least favorite of the Metal Gear. So yeah. And I mean, don't wrong, it's my least favorite steak. Like I enjoy the game,

but it's just not, it's not my one that I really love, right? So yeah, I have no problem keeping it off. It's our, list we stand by. Fuck you. Make your own podcast

and get your own list going if you want to. Now what about the GTAs? What do we want to do here? Oh, oh. I think. And Vice City. You're going to leave off San Andreas?

Yeah. Why? Too much. Too much. They went too far in San Andreas. I think that was a pretty collective agreement too

back in the day. I mean, people loved it, but I think that Vice City was the perfect round of the auto game at that time. And that's my thing is I agree. I think that I'd be okay with just putting Vice City.

Just Vice City, not doing three. Three is fucking amazing. Yeah. But I do think that that's a, is just better. Agreed. I agree. And I think that is the one,

I stand by that. Okay. Like even now. No, I agree with what you're saying. It's just I always get so hung up on what three meant for the industry and what it meant for me and all that stuff.

But I understand what are you guys think? Do we put three on vice or just fine? No, what are we going to start? Yeah, Vice City is fine. If you're going to recommend this to somebody. Now,

is anybody, what about bully? Are we going to talk about bully? I wasn't a bully fan. Oh, really? I would say manhunt over bully. Wow. Do you think,

do you put bully on? I mean, I loved bully. It's a personal one. But if that's like fat, it can be a shoutout. Shout out to bully. Shout out to bully.

Shout out to manhunt. Shout out. Shout out to manhunt. Um, man. God of, I'm not a God of War guy. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't put a God of War on there.

Put God of War two on there. You think? Yeah. I would stand by God war is awesome. And it was, showed what the system did. And like, combat's awesome.

You think three and over three? Yeah. I would. Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean, I think, and again, we're putting a million on there.

Do we only want one God of War? I think so. Okay. I'll put dark cloud on there. One, one, yeah. Twist the middle black. I'm surprised you haven't put Final Fantasy on there. Final Fantasy 10 is on there.

That's a fun. You can get four. I get 10. That's fine. No, I don't mean 11. No one means 11. Again, I'm like trying to just call my list in my head down. First of all, there's way more GameCube games are going to be on this list on PS2 games.

Tim, I mean, do you stand by Shout Out of the Colossus? I do stand by Shout of the Colossus. I understand that that can, you know, I'm okay giving shout out a shout out. Okay. Just because there's other games that I enjoy and love so much more, like NBA Street Volume 2, which I'm going to add to the list right now. Oh, I know Tony House Pro Skator 4. Jack and Daxter.

Which one? I will accept the precursors legacy or two. And I know that everyone hates to, but I love to do. It's my list. I would give a shout out to Ratchet as well. Yeah. But are we, I would give it to the PS4 one.

Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Are we, yeah. Just saying, fuck Jack and Daxter. You'll fuck you. Yeah, I wasn't a jacked guy.

Jack Daxer kind of sucks. No, a lot of you were hating ass haters back then. You didn't understand. No, it just, no. I understand. Who's the horizon?

There's no load screens. Fuck you get me crash. Fine, then let's bring it back together. Do you want Jack? No, that's fine. No one stands by, I don't care. Do you don't stand by that much? No, I'm not going to put up a thing for it

because we can come together on one. Prince of Persia, sands of time. A, motherfucking man. Yeah. No? I never liked the Prince of Prudgeoning.

Oh, you are crazy. I'm not even sure what I played at best. All three of them are great, and I think that two and three are underrated. But Sansa time's the one that I can. Yeah, since the time came out in 2003.

That's the one I had in 2002. Yeah, it was my first year thing else. So I didn't have that on Xbox. So it must have been the one after that it had. that it had. Warrior with it. Yeah, maybe that was the one I bought.

I don't know. I don't remember. I bought it at the same time I bought DeusX. Big mistake. Yeah. Final Fantasy 12, no.

Not for me. Oh, Comey. I don't like it. Kingdom Hearts. Oh, fuck. As a whole,

I'll give it to Kingdom Hearts too. Like, I think that is my favorite one and the franchise needs to make some appearance. I feel like it'll end up getting cut, so it can't just be a shout at,

but Odin's fear. Never played. Otisphere was awesome. It's a good choice for a vanilla wear game. I would, I would put dragons crown up over it. But yeah, I mean,

you can put it on there if you want. That was a beloved PS2 game. You spell it, by the way, cloud wrong and dark cloud and it's going to save me from the comments. Klaus.

Dark Klaus. I'm horrible at timing everybody. Um, what else? There's burnout. The Sly Cooper. He was a thief. I don't give it to slide four.

Yeah. Yeah. You think really? Later on. We're talking about it. We're talking about it's four. Because my thing is when we started talking about like that generation of like platformers and mascots and stuff, like in the same way that in the PS1, I gave it to crash over Spiro. And that stuff, it's like, I think ratchet gets it.

And I think ratchet's above sly and jack. I agree. I agree. It took me a long time to come around to that, but I agree. Silent Hill 2 is really good. But it's not that special to me. No, not to me either. It is a good game.

I mean, that's a seminal hard game. Grand Turismo 3, A spec. People love that shit. Yeah. This is one I think that we'd end up probably going with rock band, but guitar. Guitar Hero Guitar Hero 2 This is when I mean

This really started popping off I wouldn't say By any of them anymore though I would I would say I mean I love this game so much And this is again It's like Tony Hawk

Where I know that people There's the favorites or whatever But for me Guitar Hero 3 I think that both Guitar Hero 3 and Rock Band 2 Deserve spots Because I think that

Rock Band great idea But it needed a little A little bit of refinement And Rock Band 2 provided that For that party atmosphere But Guitar Hero 3 From a technical standpoint of just

difficulty and everything being super smooth. Guitar one was fucking rough. It just did not ever feel right. Two, fixed it all, but Neversoft came in to do three. And they like, the set list was just perfect. So I'm going to give it to that. Okay. You want to put both on there?

I think so. Okay. If I had to choose, I would cut Rock Band. You'd cut Rock Band. You're fucking crazy. Because I think Guitar Hero, from a gameplay perspective, nails it way more than Rock Band does. Rock Band nails it from an exoner.

experience perspective. Yeah. Rock band. Ruckbind. Numen Ski and Rekbund. But then rock band was next gen.

Yeah, yeah. No, I know. We'd start at all started. I started concert. It wasn't because it was a guitar here 3 PS2?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Wired. It was also on the next chance. Got you.

I need to put a devil make cry on there. Okay. Just put DMC on there when we get to. No, no, no. Yeah.

DMC nailed it. Starring Ray Gutier. ears. Looking? Yeah. Okay, okay. That was just the joke at the time. Okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Three is the best. Two can, two just doesn't exist. The Thunder? No, that was Nick getting ice.

We're having a heart attack. But I'm just gonna, even though three is better, I stand by one. Like the atmosphere of one. For Delmy cry. Yeah. And without a lot of them to cry, we would have never got on Emuisha three. I feel like we're forgetting something. None of us would stand by, but shout out to just. come too. Oh yeah.

Time splitters. Oh. Time splitters for me on GameCube. Time Splitters 2. Sure. Abs of motherfucking Lutely. Good Lord, that game's good. Shout to Rogue Galaxy, people love that game, too. Level 5 game. Shout to be on good and evil.

Yeah. Psychonauts. Wasn't my thing. SSX. I couldn't do it. I can't. I love those games, but I can't stand by any of them. If I did, it'd be tricky, but. I think we have a pretty complete list. of PS2 games. I mean, considering we're going to have to cull.

Yeah. Or will we? And considering we're going to have 5,000 game Pee games on this list. Yeah. All right. Moving on from PlayStation 2. Let's just get Xbox out of the way. Okay. Stubbs, the motherfuckins. I'm not saying by the way.

Rainbow 6.3. Cotor. 9.9, Jane Empire. What did you put Jain Empire? No, I'm kidding. Cotor. Just put Cotor on there. I would put both halos on there too. Halo. I guess you put Hoth.

too. Yeah, I put A-L-Taylor. I put A-L-O-1. What surprises me. Like, two out online. That's great. But, like, one was where the fucking, the local multiplayer is what I think of when I think of HALO. And, like, that's what I stand by. Like, I didn't really, I played online, but not extensively. Gotcha. But I played the living hell out of HAL out of HALO. Gotcha. So do you guys think both? I mean, I defer to you. I mean, I'm surprised that HALO 2 is not the one, but I understand. Combat Evolved was the first one I played, obviously. I mean, the thing is, it's just like, for me, the maps in Halo 1 are so memorable with Beaver Creek or Battle Creek at the time.

And Blood Gulch and Rat Race and pretty much all the levels were iconic. Two, they had coagulation, like, remade a couple of the original ones, but they weren't as good. The Banchi kind of fucked everything up balance-wise and stuff. And again, I'm talking about very much my experiences with Capture the Flag and shit. But that's the one I stand by. There are a lot of, like, I think, not middling, but great games that I play on Xbox. that deserve shadows, but not necessarily would be on the list. DeiSX is one of them.

Kill Switch, I think, is really good. And actually, Kill Switch is a massively fucking important game for cover-based third-person shooters. But again, I was so distracted by GameCube of this era that I barely played my Xbox. I didn't even get one until 2003, so... Would you put Ninja Guyton on there? No, not personally. I never

had a... I never had a... I never had this association with this game that a lot of people do. I still think that... I felt like it was a bastardization of what Ninja Guy even was. And they're brutally hard, and people love those games and I'm not discounting that but they're not for me. I wouldn't put them on those. I'd like to put out here as a game. I haven't played it since a launch, but Fable. I don't know if it's worth putting on the list. If it's just a shout out and I was looking for it. I didn't play.

It's one of those that that was when I didn't have an Xbox. My roommate Parker did and I would go over to his room and sit there and I would play Jade Empire was fucking around with and then when I started playing Fable as well. I love Fable. I mean, but maybe it's just a shout out. I don't I don't have strong enough feelings. But I don't know memories of it to put on list, but shout out to that. So we passed by Jetset Radio earlier when it was on Dreamcast. Now there's Jetset Radio future. I feel like those are games that I should love a lot more than I do, but I don't.

So do you think either of them need to be on there? No. Okay. Crimson Skies. Shout out. Panzer Dragon would order. I remember people like. It was good, but it wasn't saga.

Project Gotham racing mecca assault. Oh, the Chronicles of Riddick. Escape from Butcher Bay. That's an amazing game. That really is an amazing game. They remastered it not too long. Yeah. And they released a new one too on PS3.

And then I think the Reaster came with it. It was released around the same time. Something like that, yeah. I think you got them both in the one box. Yeah. Conquer, Oddworld, Doom 3. Star Wars Battlefront 2. Shout out to that Xbox game that had the ridiculous controller.

What was that one? Steel Battalion. Fuck, I hated that game. I remember at IGN they had. I'm like, this is insane. This is insane. This is a cool idea. Yeah,

I'll give you that. But Jesus. But you're crazy. This is insane. For Alfredo, I got to give a shout out to the Splinter Cell franchise, but I was a Metal Gear guy. Sure.

Yeah, I did play those when I, the one when they started coming to PS2, and then I think when I got my Xbox, and it was the same thing where I was like, man, it was pretty. And it was cool to shoot out light bulbs,

but I didn't need to worry about it. Yeah, we're pretty good. Max Payne. I'm not going to give it to. Max Payne? All right. Do it, do it, do it, do it. GameCube, GameCube.

Here we go. It's GameCube time. Super Mario Sunshine. Get that shit out of here. Honestly, man, I'll give it to you. So good. The game's awesome. You're all going to remember when it's on Switch in a few months.

The game is awesome. But my problem is, and again, this is one of those things where, hey, all the fucking Mario games can be on there. Similar to you talking about Mega Man. Like, for me, I think Mario's better than most of these, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, I agree. But Mario Sunshine. is in earlier you were saying

that they're all 10 so it doesn't matter. I don't think Mara Sunshine's a 10. I think Mara Sunshine is a step below some of the other ones. Some controller or camera wonk and things like that in the game. I really do feel like when you went pound for pound with the exception of melee that like Sunshine to me and like as a day one adopter of GameCube and having

a lot of games, that was the first like phenomenal fucking game that I had on the console where I'm like this game is awesome. This is what I wanted because I got that same day I got Ani Musha 2 I think and Oh yeah, August 26. Yeah, and I almost forgot that I wish to even existed. You know, I was just like, I got to and it was great. But, uh, Resonial 4.

Yeah. Super Mario Sunshine, no, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, we can remove it later. No, I'll let it stay. I'll let it stay. Yeah, Mario's still tour for sure. And double dash, I think we're probably beyond it for Greg. Yes, it fucking will be. Moro golf.

I'm trying to like restrain myself here because we can put a lot of. Animal Crossing. I stayed by Amble Crossing. I do not stand by Mario Car Double Dash. I want that clear. I stay by both those games. That's fine. I'm putting them on.

Fuck you. Baby Park. whatever you want. Put it in a mom. Animal Crossing frustrated me. So Soul Calibur 2. Earlier we said that we put it on here. The GameCube version of SoulCal 2 with Link is obviously the superior version of the game.

It's opposed to fucking spawn. Hayhachi. And Hayhachi. I was like, uh, clearly the winner is Link. Like I said earlier, time splitters too.

Clearly the winner is Link. And Link doesn't even say anything. It's actually not even a real character. He's just a avatar. You see Greg? I do see. I do see. Um,

all right, melee. God, I want to give a million shoutouts on, on GameCube. But the, but like, what really belongs on the list.

What really belongs on the list? I fucking love Luigi's Mansion for as much shit as it gets. Shout out. I'll just give it a shout out. It's a good game. Funny story about Luigi's Mansion. I won Fack Writer of the Month at IGN in September 2002. And they were like, we'll buy you any two games you want.

And I was like, I want Luigi's Mansion in Eternal Darkness. That's what I got. Eternal darkness. Fucking awesome, but I don't put it on this. No, I don't think it, I don't think it, I think if you went back and played it, it doesn't hold up. Remake. Before we get too far off of it,

shout out to Luigi's Mansion and shout out to the Luigi Mansion IGN guide. You remember when Hillary did this? And he just did an MS paint and it was just like a drawn map of what to go do. So funny. Metroid Prime. I would put Metroid Prime 2 on there as well

and I would put, yeah. I'd put Winne Waker on there obviously. Okay, yeah, I wouldn't make. So let's do Metro Prime one. Yeah, I think two gets the cut. Great game, but I mean, Metroid Prime is by far the best of the trilogy. I wouldn't disagree.

I wouldn't disagree. I was more disappointed with three Yeah But it did add the The controls I think that the superior version of Metro Prime is the Wii one In trilogy

Oh I don't think I didn't even play that I never played that makes it so much better Twin Snakes Do you want to put it in here Well no no I think that it's one or the other It's redundant We'll give it to you for a PS1 Okay

Paper Mario a thousand year door Love it but I'll just give you a shout out Oh we put melee on there already F0GX For fucking fast crazy shit I think that it is the best Best of the best. Oh, no, there is this.

Spatrothers on there. F0, yeah. And that's the last time we got it. No, that's not true. It is the last time. It is. I mean, there was AX in the arcade. But F0GX is one of the most criminally underrated games, I think, of all time.

And maybe not even underrated. That might not be the right word because I think it did get good reviews. But in terms of, like, Nintendo just didn't care about it and didn't push it. Star Fox Adventures. Star Fox Assault. I don't think. I can't. I can't even keep a straight base. I love assault. The error missions, not the rest of the game.

I don't care about Pickman. I don't either. Beautiful Joe. Beautiful shout out to beautiful Joe. It was a shout out. Big shout out to beautiful Joe. Also shout out to Tales Symphonia, which a lot of people is the best Tales game. I don't agree. But it is a really great game. I do think that Fire Emblem deserves a spot and I'm going to give it to Pat the Vradians. Hmm. Interesting. Look at that game. Awakeyting is fucking awesome, but I think.

think that Path of Radiant's stories. Shout out to GameCube. What a great console. What a fucking great console. I know it's not popular to say it, but I'm going to say it better than PlayStation 2. And you can fucking live with it. I'm with you. I'm with you, bro.

GameCube is fucking life. You're going to live with it. GameCube had a lot of great games. You're going to live with it. I'm living with it right now. So I said it earlier, I said it earlier, Super Monkey Ball 2. Yeah. I give it to it because I think that that is a style of game.

Banana splits on Vita. no banana splits banana splits no banana blitz um the multiplayer was so good shout to kirby zero ride but nah donkey conga bottle fantasy crystal chronicles Zelda four swords adventures was fucking awesome but again shout out also Pokemon xd and uh Pokemon coliseum full-fledged RPGs on the the console and like people just pretend they don't exist. They were decent. They were decent. But shout out.

I think this is a pretty complete list. I would give a shout out to a few other games, but I don't think necessarily need to be on here. Yeah, a lot of the Mario sports games were great around that time. Like Mario Strikers, the soccer one was really good. Mario tennis. And yeah, Mario tennis. I loved Mario tennis.

But I like tennis games in general. Trying to think, what, Mario tennis on GameCube. Was there one? I've played a Mario tennis. It was on N64. Mario Tennis was N64. And then there was the new, there was the DS one, I think. I don't think there was a game for one, but whatever.

Cool. Now, we have to slow down here because we've skipped. GBA and DS came out in 2004. So we're now ahead of it. Let's go GBA. This one, I think, can be pretty simple. The complicated thing for me is, I don't know which Castle vending game to put on there. I think one of them belongs on there.

I think Circle the Moon would be the one I put on. just because I have the best memories of it. But people are always like, what's your favorite GBA slash DS Casabini game? And I'm like, they're all awesome. Every one of them is awesome. And I don't even know that if you put them in front of me without a title screen, I can tell you which one with which.

So you're going to choose Circle of the Moon? I think Circle the Moon just based on the fact, what a great launch game. I got that in Super Mario advance. What a great launch lineup. Yeah, really good lineup. Yeah, there was like Super Dodgeball. And there was a bunch of great games when GBA came out.

Yeah, FIra wrestling. TonyX ProSk. I have very vivid memories of buying. A semester thing. It was great. 2001, man. I wanted to rent it. Right before 9-11.

You went what? I wanted to rent it. No, we want to, it was coming out or whatever, because I don't want to buy it and try it. So I was going to rent it on a trip to Mizzou, and I never did. Metroid fusion,

I fucking love, but I think that I'm okay with just having Super Metroid on there. But also, I think Zero Mission is my favorite Metroid. Yeah. Well, because we did, we did forego the original Metroid, and I think you can make,

I mean, Zero Mission is the original Metroid. So I think you could make the case for that. Yeah, but I'm okay just having Super Metroid and leaving it there if you are. Yeah, I'm fine with that as well. Let me see the... We've got Minish Cap, Pokemon Ruby Sapphire.

Shout out to Fantagetales of Fantasia because that was the first time we ever got to play it. Advanced Wars. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, yes. Advanced Wars is awesome. Now do we choose Advanced Wars? Advanced Wars are not the DS version?

Yeah, the GBA game was the better one. IMO. Mario Card Super Circuit was fun for the time. Mario and Luigi. I don't think I put any of the actual like Mario RPG titles on the list. even though they're great. Final Fantasy Tactics advance is pretty cool.

That game grew on me the more I thought about it. And when the second one came out A2 or whatever I liked it, I don't know that I necessarily put on the list. We already have Final Fantasy Tactics on the list on the PS1. And I'm going to add another of the similar kinds of games we can get the PSP. So I think we can probably stop for now. Yeah.

The GB had a lot of Super Nintendo ports. Golden Sun, shout out to you. I like Golden Sun. Reminds me of my 12th grade civics class because I would just play Golden Sun in it. Mr. Scott was the teacher. Didn't care too much about anything. That was his last year.

Advanced Wars or Advanced Wars 2? I don't really... My memories are attached to Advanced Wars. Okay, we'll put that there then. Shout to the Final Fantasy 6 port on GPS. Yeah, it was great. I don't know that I would put much of anything else on here because I mean, I would put all of the Castle Vating games

that were available on there and everything. We're getting like two... We're going to have to go back and remove a bunch of shit at this point, so... Shout to the Sonic Advanced Games. They were decent. All right. I think we're good on G. Yeah, me too.

D. We also have to remember that it only had a few years really to thrive as well. DS you can get fucking nuts with. If you really want to get nuts with, you can get nuts with. Elite beat Asians. Yes. God damn yes. I would say Phoenix Wright, but I'm not really entirely sure which one.

So I would just say Phoenix Wright, right, Ace Attorney. I think that basically is a catch-all for all the goodness that Phoenix Wright represented. Those games were so special. Tim, after some in-depth research, please change that to Advance Wars 2. Okay. New Super Mario Brothers, right? Wasn't that the... Do you give it to it?

Because I really don't. Really? I fucking loved it. I was awesome. I got my DS Light and picked that up. I was like, holy shit, is this awesome? I honestly, I don't think that any of the new Super Mario Bros. I think they're all...

They're fun, but great. Even New Super Mario Bros. 2 is, I think, the worst of them all. We, New Super Mario Bros. We is probably the, I'd say the strongest of any of them. And then the Wii you one, then the DS one. But yeah, I don't think that any of them need to make it. But if you guys, I'm fine with that. I'm going to go get my notebooks.

I'm going to start writing things down because I want to figure out how many of these we have to take off in a minute. Okay. Grand Theft Auto Chinatown Wars. On DS? Yeah. On PSP. I mean, it's tomato tomato, right?

I guess it would look better on PSP. I don't find, but on PSP. You remember this? Dealing drugs. Stories. Yeah, that was PSP as well. It was China was the DS one first.

Yeah, it was DS first. It was every, yeah. And then it came to. I mean, I think it's a DS game. It's a DS game. Yeah,

I think you had better resolution stuff. But that's where you got to scratch your stuff too with the stylist, people like that. Oh, it's where Pokemon, hard gold, soul silver.

Damn, Daniel. Yeah, I know you can hear it. It's crazy. Ooh. Is this where, was Scriblenots? did it debut on DS?

Yeah. Yeah. That was a hell of a game. It was, but... You're not into it? There's a lot of DS games that I'm like, man, I loved, but not enough.

Like, World Ends with You was awesome, but I wouldn't put it there. Kevin stood up instead of that dodgeball game. Case you can hear most. Yeah, there was Animal Crossing. Elite Beat agents is my is my favorite DS game. He's my walkie-talking man.

Tetris D.S. was great, but the D. GP Tetris, come all. And 10 dogs? No, we're good. We good. We good. Can you scroll the list back over to the right?

I just want to count everything. Just keep an eye on things. So we'll make it a lot. Kevin needs to do that. Oh, Kevin. Home alone. And home alone too. Can you scroll over to the left?

And I just want to count everything we have. So I'm just trying to keep track of numbers here. Thank you. All right. So hold on. We have four. In free. Don't mind me for now.

I'm down to call it on DS. Okay. With just the four that we have. You can look to the number on the side and minus one. Or two, actually. All right. Big calling. You want to put,

just look to the number of the minus two because you have two, or I guess just the one, because you're just the one up there. So yeah. So you have 14 SNS games. Okay. PSP. PSP.

Get you guys. Game on. Tactics ogre let us cling together. All three padapons. We're touching these a lot today. I like it. Really with Patapon? No, I can pick one if you want.

Pick three. Patapon three learned all the, three learned from all the mistakes and trials and tribulations. It was easy to get through. It had online multiplayer, which was great. You were only controlling one guy, which made your hero that you took another games. It was great.

Yeah. Going back to PlayStation 2, Amplitude. Ah, yes, yes. because you went to Amplitude Rock Band Unplugged Which a lot of people think I'm joking about when I say I would pay thousands of dollars

For them to kickstart that Do all these different things Put Rock Band Unplug on the fucking list Really? Put Rock Band Unplugged on the fucking list Because there's there's probably nobody That played Rock Band Unplugged More than me Bullshit I played more than you did

It was the closest thing to Amplitude That I thought I was ever gonna get again Here's the thing though But it was an amplitude It was much better than Amplitude wrong. I'll put it on. You had all the different instruments.

You're able to go. They had DLC. To sin wagon by Dixie Chicks. Come on. They had a better soundtrack than Amplitude. No. They had a better soundtrack than Amplitude. No.

If there's one game, I wish could somehow come to Vita or anywhere, anywhere. I didn't even care. The game was Blitz. It was kind of like it, whatever. Rock Band Unplugged, criminally underplayed. Fantastic. It was fantastic. I mean, it wasn't.

It wasn't one now? Oh, yeah. Again, I know it wasn't. I put it on list. I'll put it on list. Thank you. Thank you. It's there. What else for PSP? Oh my God. Now, uh, a siphon filter. I'd want you to put Logan Shadow. Yeah. Seifilers's Logan Shadow. Uh, of course, my favorite game of all time, metal gear solid Peace Walker. Thank you very much, Kevin, for the

short clap. Um, I never, this is blasph me. I know being the PSP guy. I never really cared for Lococo, but I don't, I'll bring it up because I gave it a shot at least. If anybody else had something to say about Locororoa. Now, now here's the thing. Now Colin, I'll let you talk me out of it. But I would put Crisis Corps Fallin Fantasy 7 on that list. I don't hate it. I don't hate the choice. I think Crisis Core was way better than I thought it was going to be. Then boom. It stays. I think it's one of PSP's best games. The thing is that we have to start calling the list

significantly. We don't have to go back to the beginning and get rid of a lot of shit because we're over 100 now. I think this is a It can be 10,000. It doesn't matter. It could be 10,000. Here, now here it, here's something I'll put out there for everybody. Go for it. If you only want one God of War, uh-huh. I actually enjoyed Ghost to Sparta more than any of them. More than two?

Yeah. Okay. Two, I think it was important for the PS2. It was the end cap to that console. It was beautiful. It was great. It was a huge deal. It was everybody on board with it.

But Ghost of Sparta was God of War in the Palmier. It was a great NES emulator. That is true. Shout out to Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleet. But like I said earlier, give it to two. Now This is one of those things I know you get fishy with the rules

And you play loose and fast I would put Luminous on here I was about to say But I'm also gonna put it on the Vita list No so you choose one Luminous Fucking shit really Yeah Fuck you

I didn't do this on your nerdy ass NES games You could have We're gonna have to go back and remove I try to be strategic though I tried to already prune Would you really put Luminous twice Yeah Honestly really I would argue for it to be

One of the PS3 PSN games So there you go Don't talk to me about Luminous. Like I ain't fucking crazy about that shit. Luminous is fucking great. But I mean, that's like with Tony Hawk. I would put pretty much all the Tonya,

not all of them. I'd put a couple Tony Hocs on the list. Drop my pen. Suck the dick on the way down. If you want me to pick one, yeah, I'll go Vita. It was the better version.

I think Luminous on PSP was a bigger movement. When we all learned what we were doing, we learned about Luminous. Launch title. Great launch title. Thank you. That reminds me.

Hot Shots Golf. So is the PSP one the one you choose? Put hot shots gall. Yeah, open T. Just period. Not open T2. Open T. God,

I loved the PSP so fucking much. So fucking much. They were universal. They played in anything. The GTA stories games, they were great, but I mean. Shoutouts to them.

They were hugely important in the era. They were great. And they just, that was the thing, though, is that they never. They were really shitty, though, when do you think about it. uh,

Jean Dark. Yes. That was a great, great game. One of the, that was like one of the first to grab me. Oh, fuck.

Where was my head at? Resistance retribution. Put it on the board. Grayson? You kidding me? Hell yeah. Okay. Again, I can't believe

I was sleeping out of this late. Valchuria Chronicle 2. Valchari Chronicles 2. I'm not even gonna try to spell this right. V-A-L-L-K-Y-R-I-A. Shout out to Monster Hunter, but it's none of our games. Half minute hero, shout out. Great, great game, but we don't have to put it on the list.

I'm done with... Shout to Michael Menson and Decidia of Final Fantasy. Shout to Motorstone, Mark, Degh. Another great game. No shout out to Secret Agent Clank. You suck. It's time to move on. Yeah, Secret Agent Clank, fucking.

It's balls. What are we missing? Xbox 360 now. Okay. I think the only Xbox 360 game that I'd, or just two. I think Shadow Complex should be on the list. I think gears a war one should be on the list. I won't fight for anything else.

I mean, there are other games. It depends on where you want it to live, like, Bioshock. Yeah, that's from we're going to get into a weird thing, right? Where we started having the... I mean, Bioshocks is a 360 game. Yeah, it was for a 360 first. Yeah, a long time, actually.

Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 3. Yeah, you think? I think if we got to choose one is mass effect 2, probably. Do we have to, because we're going to get into the uncharted territory. We're going to get into the uncharted territory. That's fine. What are we going to do? But that's the thing.

I feel like we stand by the Uncharted games. Do we stand by all the Mass Effect games? I don't care. Two is my game. I think I was standout head and shoulders above the rest. Yeah. I mean, 360,

I mean, where are we putting Red Dead? Red Dead has got to go on one of these. Whether PS3 or. You put on 360 just because we're going to have so many exclusives on the PS3 list. I don't mean that as a slight. It's just, it's a bit.

Shout to Halo 3. Oh, Portal 2. Portal 2. Portal 2. Portal 2. Personally, I think Portal 1's better because Portal 1 is such a great experience of just, it's tight and it's done.

But Portal 2 come the fuck on. Left for Dead 2. I'd like to see on this list. Halo Reach. Skyrim. Fall out 3. Or flaw in New Vegas? I would say fall out 3.

4th. Shout out to Brade. I don't think it was any of our kind of game, but whatever. Batman. How do we want to play that? Asylum, Arkham City. Let me put on 360. which one

If we're doing one Then yeah asylum Very contained very nice City's great You know I know I'm saying they're not good Borderlands

Borderlands 2 Borderlands 2 was amazing I played on PS3 If that matters Big Collie Moriardi Where do you want to put Dead Space 2 No I would put Dead Space 1 on the list

Dead Space 1 Dead Space for show Dead Space for sure I'm just yeah Limbo, Super Meat Boy, South Park, the Stick of Truth. Stick of Truth. Yeah, for sure. Sure.

For sure. I love Limbo, but I don't. It's not one on your, we fuck with it list on it. Assassin's Creed. Two. Do you think so? I mean, now we're getting very, very loose and getting very meaty. I mean, Assassin's Creed too.

I loved. Great thing. Shout out to it. I'm fine with it. I mean, platinum it. I love it. shot out. Modern warfare.

Never been my thing. It's a great game. I don't know. I put any of the call of duties on there, personally. Okay. If we're trying to get 100 games, you can't put call of duty on this list.

Do we, I am trying to get to 100 games, do you want to put GTA 5 at all on this list? GT5? Yeah. I wouldn't, I mean, I only played it for 10 hours or so.

I didn't really feel it. My thing is with GTA, five is fucking great. Four is fucking great. But Vice City to me is like, sure. They're all just expanding on the same idea, right?

crackdown crackdown is a lot of fun but I don't know if it needs to be on this list I think I'm good I think so I'm gonna look through IGN's list right now see what they got going on yeah Fez

meh I didn't like Fes Rayman Legends was so so good but no Walking Dead Yeah Walking Dead season one

Survival instinct come on darrell see I feel like my head's going to exclusives and that means that I'm missing out on third party stuff I'm worried about that's hopefully this list Mere's edge

I love it but shout out of your fuck out of your faith you piece of shit Skyrim go that far I mean do you guys I love Skyrim enough to stand by yeah shout out okay connect Star Wars of course

Child of light child of line that people did love do you want to put a child light on no I sure don't oh rock band we talked about earlier right now rock band two is the good one right like rock band one was just getting

everything set but rock band two was when the dc and all that shit really started and like from then on it was just compatible with stuff because rock band three was one when they had the keyboard yeah the key tar the key tar yeah I don't want that okay was that three was that that was there a four was there a four I thought it was three. Four is the one that just came out.

You're right. So Rock Band 2 is what I put. Okay. Cool. Okay. I got really tired. I'm sorry, buddy.

It's okay. You're almost there. This is the finish lines inside. Boom. We're almost caught up to modern times. So we're done with the dinosaurs. I only think we should even do modern, the modern consoles.

Because they're complete. And we. So just do PS3. Okay. I'm fucking around. We're done with 360. Yep. So PS3 and we,

I think are the last ones. And then you have to consider where Vita falls as well. But I'm not sure we should do any of the consoles that are currently being used. Like, 3DS and all that. I don't know, but just we have so many games already on these lists. It should be up to this point. And then we can redo it later. I'm okay with that because here's what we'll do.

We'll take the 100 from their back. Then we'll make a separate list of modern games. Then we'll try to combine those lists in a future. Okay. Topic. Maybe the 200th episode. Maybe like, episode 10,000. Who the hell knows.

We'll be well under the generation by then. So that's not a bad idea, actually. Kevin. I bet we'll all have future glasses by then. Future glasses. Yeah, they'll be like shiny. Rapper on your head and you won't be able to see where they connect to your face. I got a sneeze.

Okay. I can feel it. I hate that, right? When you stop everything for a sneeze, but your eyes got all right. So what I proposed, by the way, is we just skip PS4, X-X-1. Anything you can buy in stores now. Wii U3DS Vita. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So we're going to do PS3 and we. And call it. Mm-hmm. Gotcha. you. Then I also do think that we need to at least

brainstorm arcade and mobile. Oh, okay. PS3. I mean, the last three. Yeah, and I think all the uncharted games. I mean, we're, I'm an oddie dog

sucking dick fan boy over here. Give a Neil Druckman piggyback rides to the local supermarket. Resistance 3 I'd put on there. I'd also put Super Stardust HD. Hell yeah. Yeah, fuck yeah, you would. I'd put Shatter on.

Shatter? Shatter, yeah. I don't care what you guys say. Metal or solid four makes the list. I'm going to fit a live. I fucking love that game. In the old days, we didn't put on our list because we use the top 25 at IGN to be a recommendation for someone who just bought a system.

and we didn't think that if you just bought the system, you'd get anything out of Metal Gear Solid 4. This is a list for what I fucking stand by and I fucking stand by and I fucking stand by. This is 100 games that you stand by and you stand by. I enjoy it for it. Oh, yeah. Oh, man.

Oh, man. A little big planet two is where I'll go. A little big planet two I'd put on there. I wouldn't put any little big planet on up. But if you stand by it. You a bitch. You are a bitch. You are a bitch.

You are sucking dick. Heavy rain. Little big planet sucks. I'm sorry. Fuck you. It really does. It's a fucking floaty ass piece of garbage. Then there's no actual.

real game there and the game that they try to give you is really just okay. But I'll give it to heavy rain. I'm not going to say you're in disagree with you. Yeah, heavy rain, definitely, definitely. Let's get to happier moments. Yeah, it's a real happy game. Journey.

Yes. Oh, God, yes. Staring us in the face literally. Infamous. Infamous and infamous too. Yeah. We'll have to cut one of these at some point. Probably infamous.

Nino no, no. Would you put that on there? Nino Kuni, yeah. Let's do it. Let's fucking do it. There's Dark Souls. There's. Demon Souls.

There's not our games. You know, I mean? I don't want to say about him. Ratched and clink games were, the core ones here were great, but I still think we give it to it. Oh, we're not doing PS4. Ha ha.

A crack in time. A crack in time for sure. Yes. You guys are correct. And of course, PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale. You battle royale. I will allow.

I will not allow. Great. Great fucking intro. Yeah. The intro's great. Um, well, since we're not doing PS4 or Xbox one, then I want to save Tomb Raider, the rebooted Tomb Raider in the Ludington universe. You follow me on this one?

It looks like you're getting confused. Yeah. Because there's Rise of the Tomb Raider. Yeah. And then there was the definitive edition. Those came to PS4. What game, Tomb Raider come out on then? Tomb Raider.

PS3. Okay. Yeah. Wow. That's, why is that so confusing? I don't remember why. Because you're hating ass hater. Just the drinking your hate-hater over there.

little bit plain. LA No, no, fuck no. It's one of the names in this ledger. Minecraft is here. Yeah. Would you put Minecraft on the list anywhere? I mean, I love Minecraft, but to me, it's still a current thing because I played on my video. But I mean, no, that's totally fair.

It does deserve a nod. I mean, it does. If we want to include one of these versions, then yeah. I mean, because it was on Xbox 360 as well. It's on PS3. It's on mobile. It's on PC. When we get to the PC part, we're not a lot of games in here.

So, okay. So I'll put it. and mine sweeper. I'm just going to put here. Oregon Trail. We're not doing PC games. I mean, well, just real quick, is there a PC game? I would say civilization or something like that,

but I just don't think we can speak authoritatively to even open that door at all. You know, like, that's fair. Turbo tax. This games are we stand by. Turbo taxes, yeah, that's a good game. I don't think there's, I can't think of any that I'm like, fuck.

No, I don't think I wouldn't necessarily evangelize anything on PC. I just don't know. Remember number munchers? I do. That's a good one. I do. Yes. Let's let us see.

Does it feel like a cat making biscuits on you? No. Are y'all good for PS3? Yes. I know when I look back at this video, I'm be like, why did I say this? We. We. We.

Oh. You know what for PS3? I'm putting it because I stand by at flour. Oh, that's like. Sure. I love flour. Last guy. Another great one.

It's a shout-out, Colin. I'm not. It's just a shout-up being good. I'm looking through your guys' list. Is it our list? Maybe not, actually. I think they probably shook our shit up a little bit. I don't think it's your list.

Everyone hated every list. Shout out's Braid, but I wouldn't. Braids. Braids Wackadoo. All right. Dishonored. So I got all the trophies in it, though. Now, shout out to Farquies in it, though.

Yeah, Farquharie. But again, we're going to have to cut a lot of these games off those. So at this point, Oh, Catherine. Catherine. Yes, I would put Catherine on those. You. You.

And you better roar, yeah. So we're on that we? Super Mario Galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy 2. Amen. Shout out to that, uh, the paper Mario game on here that I liked, that I played. Super Paper Mario. Yeah, that I never would have played.

I never would have played it and there was nothing out that summer and I played it and it was good. Yeah. I wouldn't put it on the list but I'd go much further than this. Did you hear me say shout out?

Did you hear me say shout out? I'm letting you know what I did. Do I have to come over there and say it louder? Motherfucker, we fucked up. You got to go back to DS and you got to add Mario Kart DS. You're crazy, man. We have to start moving games.

We don't. It can be 10,000 games we said, remember when we said that? And Mario Kart DS was awesome. Oh, you don't have the game. I'll share it with your friend. There you go. He got all the levels.

He got all the maps. You're all set to go. Okay. All the characters. Best Wii games. Here we are. 207, whatever the fuck that terrible one was. Nightfire?

No. Nightfire was GameCube. Don't talk shit about Nightfire. I'm not going to talk. I put it on PS2. Ooh. But I wouldn't. I wrote the Guide Forest.

All right. House did it overkill? Can't even do it. Mario caught Wii. Mm-mm. Punch out. Punch out's good. Punch out's good.

But I'm not going to go on also. No. Red steel. Red Steel. Red Seal. Red Seal. This is cool, but I...

It's a great game. Man, this is a really dire list. Yeah, wow. Jesus Christ. This is pretty bad. Donkey Kong Country returns.

I will not give it to, although it's a great game. I will give it to Tropical Freeze, but that's... We're not there yet. Shout out to Mad World. Wouldn't do it. Wouldn't do it.

Boom blocks. Thank you, Steven Spielberg. Love you, Spielberg. Thank you, Steven's a murder in the game. That was awesome. That was a fun.

That was a fun thing to do it. But I'm surprised there hasn't been not a boombox too necessarily but somebody who just totally apes that

for move or something or for VR and VR yeah because there's the stacking game you know yeah maybe put some birds in it yeah

that are furious so the bird on it I didn't vibe with it for Prime 3 you couldn't do a Tatsunoku versus Capcom

aka not Marva versus Capcom I'm sorry try again your gameplay was good who the fuck are those characters dames, dying. I think my brother was the only person excited about that

Snoko versus Scalpa. Yeah. Rayman Origins and Legends. I feel weird about it because they're so good. Better on Vita. Better on Wii U. Beautiful on Vita though. That colors.

Little King's story. Get out of here. Oh, man. No more. No more heroes? Oh. Okay. I love No more heroes.

Like, I really love No more heroes. Johnny Touchdown. Johnny Touchdown. I'm doing it. Okay. There's no more heroes too here. I'm giving it to just no more heroes. That was a cool game.

Really cool game. Red Steel. Yes. Not. Not going to happen. Greg. I loved Red Steel. I wanted to love Red Steel.

Everyone wanted to love Red Steel. Sin and Punishment Star Successor. Fucking awesome. But I would be. Zach and Wiki. I like Zach and Wiki. That was when I was still up. Punishing.

I was what I was still upweez. Just asshole. I was just upwees asshole. That was 2017. And I understand that we are going to need to curate eventually, but I'm putting smash Bros. Brawl. That's my favorite Smash Bros. And I ain't fucking ashamed of it. See, that's the thing about it. Subspace emissary?

Not ashamed of it. I'm with you, man. I think that it is my favorite as well, but I think that's the time and place thing. Melee, I understand, is better from a competitive scene. And the Wii U one, I think, is more balanced and complete and there's no tripping. But brawls, the homie. Skywood sword can't even do it. Jesus.

Get the fuck out of here. So yeah, all right. So now, break your Wii motion plus fucking off in your own goddamn. Arcade and mobile. Let's start with Arcade. DDR Extreme. Sure, sure. And if we're talking the arcade version, then DDR Extreme is by far the best DDR game.

Okay. DDR Extreme on the PlayStation 2 was great. I still think it's the best, but it's not as clear. Star Wars BattlePod. No. No. Shout out. I will say that.

I don't know that there's any arcade. game that I would stand by to be on this list that has not already been mentioned as a console game or something that was mentioned early on so like miss Pac-Man Street Fighter 2 Spy Hunter I I feel Golden-ax like a light gun game needs to be house to the said House of the dead But the last thing there's the time crisis there's the point blank games on the PlayStation House of the dead that aerosmith game How's the dead two? I have that burn into my brain like the the the interest he was like Jay

I tried. Like really bad voice. I don't know why I spent a lot of money on that machine. All right. That's why. That's why. Are you ashamed of that? Shilin scope. Shilin Scope.

I don't. Sounds scopes's cool, but I never really gave too much of a fuck about it. I'm going to put Carnival on this, understanding that it can get cut at any time, but I fucking love that game and a standby. Um, what I'm going to say?

Cruising. Daytona was awesome. Mm. But I'm going to go to Google. best arcade games lots yeah shout out to spy hunter shout out to golden axe a lot of these are the old old old that's what that's what arcades were shout it to that Superman game where you can be a Superman writer Superman blue shout it to kuber yeah yeah I know super doodle jumping all that crap

shout out to the real Ghostbusters game that was good too yeah arcades get hard because they they range for so long area 51 maximum uh what was it there's There was area 51, maximum something. Houston World, Virtual Cop 2, Daytona, USA, Crazy Taxi. That's what I'm saying. The great arcade games are on console. And my, like, I mean, I'm not all over. Oh, sorry, metal slug three.

Right, Kevin. Good job, Keff. Star Wars Trilogy Arcade. That shit was so awesome, but too expensive to stand by. Shout to NFL Blitz. I saw that on there. I love those games. I want to give a shout out to Tekken 3.

We missed this on PlayStation. That wasn't a tech and fan. I couldn't stand by. I'm not enough of a fighting guy. Tech and tag was the one actually that really stood out to me in the arcade just because it was a PS2 game before we, like that was our first taste. That and Street Fighter EX. Street Fighter EX. Which was fucking balls.

All right, mobile. Jetpacked joyride. Really? Okay. Yeah. Plants versus zombies. Is it probably. Plants versus zombies is the only one I would put on them.

No, Kevin. For the Go game. games. You're the GoPro. I would put one, but I think it would have to be Lara Croft. No.

Or Hitman. Are you talking to your microphone? Can I hear you? Because you always yell us to talk on the microphone, and you lean back and you can do whatever you want. You can hear that you can't be heard. Yeah, but I'm not talking to the kids. I'm talking to you guys.

You're about, you were about to launch into a conversation about the Go games. No. So you should play for zombies too? No, the first one. But yeah. Yeah.

You're saying, I think DeSX-Go because it has, um, Like, you, they were released in opposite order on the Vita. I mean, I guess DeiSX-Go hasn't come out on Vita. But there is a clear progression of gameplay. And, like, I personally think that Dei-S-Hex-Go is a better game. All right, I'm going to give Kev his pick.

There's just more you can do. I want to give a shout to Kingdom Rush, one on mobile, but I don't need to put it on this list. Actually, yeah, I do. Kingdom Rush is fucking dope. I think that's it. Let me check my phone real quick. The Jetpack Joy, I got that.

What about the dude that's running? Oh, okay. So, Mario, Jetpack Joyride. Pagel, we brought up earlier. For me, I'm going to put Pagel blast on there with the caveat that they're fucking pay-to-play, free-to-play, pay for fucking everything. Bullshit is the worst. But I stand by it if you glitch it so that you have to reset it.

So why not just stand by Peggle on the console? Because Peggle Blast is way better of a game. Okay. That's the thing is it's the Pagle Blast is vertical. So it allows a lot more dropping of the ball. Whereas the playing feels different. It's just like Pagle Blast, I wish that they would just get rid of it. That was a game I could pay $20 for and be done with it.

But I still stand by Pagel blast. I think it is the best Pagel despite that bullshit. Okay. Shout out to game dev story. That's probably the mobile game. I've put the most hours into my life where I like actually play. Well, actually no,

Sparkade's definitely past that now, I guess with the Tetris stuff. But yeah, that game was great. Highly recommended. I'm down to stop then. No, we already put Tetris on there. I don't need to put in Spark. That's good.

So what? Real quick, here's my one question. And this is a weird one. And I'm sure we're going to watch back and think about this and not be tired from the holiday party. And I'll be like, oh, why don't we do that?

what about gone home? Like there's no PC category and it didn't come to these consoles. So is it just, we'd include it in the PS4 bin down the road? I think so. I would. Yeah,

I consider it a modern game. Okay. Spider-Man on PlayStation, I love, really love. It was no Spider-Man on Genesis. It's not good anymore. It's not good anymore.

It's stressful. Oh, I know. Yeah, we don't want to fuck this up. Well, the whole thing is we clearly miss a lot of stuff. We're trying to keep the list low. So it is that what games are jumping at,

you of like holy shit right PlayStation 3 this is what I played and this is what I love so what number are we at uh let me do the math again 10,000 I believe so what we were gaming for uh Kevin scroll back to the to the to the I just want to make sure I hold my number to work what to the other side yep you're gonna count everything again I just want to do you like this is this is like you're being wolf blitzer you're looking at the big screen over here election results are coming in but it's about punch out and Dr. Mario instead of the president yeah He's on it. Don't worry. He's just double-checking his math. I fucking miss Crazy Taxi.

I really miss Road Rash. Somebody needs to make Road Rash. I've said this a million times. Somebody needs to make a road rash. Oh, thank you. Can you go to the right now? It's not even including five consoles. Sure. Video games are awesome. They are really cool. Pretty dope. I never played Crazy Taxi. You never played what? I never played Crazy Taxi in the arcade.

Oh, it was fun. Was it better? I mean, I played it on my, honestly, what I did is I played mainly on PS2 when it finally got me too. Yeah. First PS2 game I owned. Did you play in the arcade? I did.

Yeah. Was it better in the arcade? I mean, it's different. You had the steering wheel. So it like, it added a lot of franticness. But it, I think it's better as a game. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Crazy Taxi 2 too much. Crazy Taxi 3 way too much. Remember when they put it back out and another song. Oh, no. This is it good. You're doing great, Colin. nobody's mad at you. We're all mad at Kevin.

Looks too good today. Too hot. Too sexy. Too hot. Too sexy. I hate it when he makes me question my sexuality. Why do you do that, Kevin? Why do you do that? Kevin, realistically, what time we have to get in line for a rogue one tonight? Why would I know? Because that's your theater. That's where you're always telling us to go. Something on the scale happened.

When we went and saw Force Awakens in a very similar situation. This is a bigger scale. People are more excited for this. Really? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I don't believe that for a fucking second. Well, we went to buy the tickets from Force Awakens. People aren't more excited, more people are excited. Yeah.

All right, that's what I'm saying. It's more craziness. Like on the news today, they were like, people have been waiting for a week. Should I bring a gun to the theater? Oh, I got a scary. Thank you. Greg is got a gun. What it is that they do?

It's Greg's last eye over you. Almost there. You got a wrong way. My gun got to be inside. fucking big ones Aerosmith You know what I mean? I know what you mean

Steven Tyler Say something I'm giving I think there are 169 games 169? I'm sorry We're leaving it there Ladies and gentlemen This has been the kind of funny 169

I like this I like that we can stop there for now In the future We will go back into the modern games We'll make that a separate list. And then somehow, I think then, I think at some point, we will actually call it down to 100. As impossible as that may be. It'll be possible.

There'll be blood, sweat and tears. But it'll happen. And Crash Team Racing will remain on that list. Thank you very much for all your support in 2016. You've been fantastic. Let us know in the comments what games we forgot, because I'm sure we forgot a whole bunch. But try not to add too many because I like the 169. It feels right.

You know what I mean? Just let it happen. Until next time. I love you. New Year.