Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Marty Sliva (Special Guest) - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 120(Soundcloud & RSS)

Episode Date: May 19, 2017

Marty Sliva joins us to discuss What Remains of Edith Finch, what games we replay, release dates post E3, and if Zelda was on PS4. (Released first to Patreon Supporters on 05.12.17) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's MVMTwatches.com slash kinda. Join the movement. What's up, guys? Welcome to the first ever episode 100. and 20 The Kind of Funny Games cast, as always. I'm Tim Geddes joined by one of the coolest dudes of video games. Greg Miller. Bonjour.

And joining us for the first time on this show? On this show for the first time. Yeah, that's been a long time. I've done every other show, including Colin was right. Marty Slevo. Hey, guys, thank you so much for having me. Oh, claps. Thank you for coming in.

It's exciting. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it was very exciting when you guys invited me. And I had to trudge through strange neighborhoods of San Francisco to get here. You never seen some of places. Yeah, I made it. I left some of me in the Uber. Sure, that happens.

He was a strange, quiet man who was driving very fast, but I left a part of me there. That's not happens, yeah. That's fun. Uber is your first time in the studio. Yeah, it was incredible. It doesn't like, because I had, I've seen so much stuff in here

and the barbecues and everything. And so I had a mental picture. I was wrong. Oh, wow, really? Yeah. How would you think it was going to be? Well, I didn't realize there would be the weird, that made me, you guys made me eat the pickle salt.

Yeah. Maybe the pickles salt. Yeah. Maybe the pickles salt. Yeah. Have you guys thought? Yeah. Did you like it?

Yeah, I liked it a lot. It's really good. It's addicting. I feel like this is a scary way. My thing with it is I just don't know when I would use it on anything. Yeah. They have a sluette. And he just puts it on his hand and just starts to link it.

And that doesn't seem like a life I want to lead. I feel like I would pull it out at a bar to get some weird looks. See that's the thing. I understand tapping it in your beer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no.

I don't like pull it out in the bar and we put it on my hand and do some stuff. Yeah. See how folks. See how folks react to that. Then then when they started putting the other one, the lemon twang on their hot Cheetos. Yeah. That's why I got to respect the culture. So that's what Andy does is he takes the pickle twang and he takes a bag of hot Cheetos,

puts it all in there and shakes that motherfucker up. Andy's an interesting creature. He really is. What's interesting about him is you look at him and you'd imagine he's somewhat healthy. Yeah. I mean, you think he has it somewhat together? He looks like he has a shit together. Because he works out a little bit, but he's just, he's trash.

Yeah. I mean, he's a trash panda. I mean, he's healthy at the outside dead on the inside. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I love him. Yeah. Our sweet little boy.

Candy Andy. Candy Andy. Candy Andy. That's his new nickname. That's his name with the gold club. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Kind of Funny Games cast. Each and every week get together to talk about video games and all the things we love about them.

You can get it early at patreon.com slash kind of funny games. You can get it late on YouTube. com slash kind of funny games. Either way, we love and appreciate you very much. But we really appreciate Tom Bach, our Patreon producer for the 10th month in a row. Yeah. Pulling that out of my ass.

He's got two months until a fake year. Yeah. He just lied about that. He's the homie though. He makes the things happen. He can make things happen. He was on this show. And he was really good.

Yeah. Really damn good. We did some early E3 predictions. Yeah. Yeah. People asking when we're going to do the E3 predictions, like the official ones with the bets and shit, that will be the episode that goes live right before E3. The week before.

Yeah. Late on YouTube. Late on YouTube. But even then, though, it'll still be coming out. Hmm. I'm right. You're wrong. Yeah, you got to think about this.

A wrinkle in time. Are you to get, uh, are they like, bets where like the money has to go down to like the Caribbean? Like those. No, it's not that much of an offshore bet. It's the, it's the, you know, the progression of the beyond bets where it was, Colin tried to get down to the granular nature, but then he'd always end up losing. He'd have like 91.

Yeah. Point nine one points. I want to do it a little different this time though. Sure. I want to have some bigger bets overall about E3. Yeah, you guys can't piss out with bets either. You gotta go, I like Colin going granular. Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't.

I've never pushed out in a bet, sir. Oh my God. All right. I feel like he's pissed out before. I've pushed out before for sure. Here's a great Greg Miller story for you. Oh, God. St.

Petron, Nell School, of course, where I went to school. Sure. K through eight. Sure. We had a pool. You know what I mean? Indoor's gross as hell. Gave me all sorts of war on my feet.

Totally separate story, though. We had a bridge across it. You called it the bridge over the deep end. You know what I mean? You guys really had amazing names. You could jump off of it. You know what I mean? Do all this different stuff.

Finally I psyched myself up. I don't know, first grade will say to go up there and jump off it or whatever. I was so stoked, so stoked. Got to the edge. And then I pushed out and did a little wobble. And then turned around real quick as I fell and grabbed it and was on it like a Garfield on the back of, you know what I mean? I was like holding the bridge like this and like the swim teacher had to come up

and get me off and stuff. In a similar, uh, bad swim story with Greg Miller. I once had a not so bad in my, uh, my, uh, swim trunks that I couldn't get them off. And the swim teacher had to come down there. She saw my dingling. She had to come do that though. And I totally delayed class like nobody could swim because I was all stuck. No one could swim.

You ruined swimming. She's like the town from footloose. That just bad. I know. Yeah. What I wasn't doing because I didn't want it. I mean. I wasn't like I wanted to dance. They just wouldn't let me. Oh my God.

So, all right. Getting back to it. E3. The week going into E3, before E3, live on YouTube for public will be our predictions. Right. That's awesome. Now, in addition to that, you are going to be gone on next week's episode of Gamscast. We fucked this up last week. We were talking about the future

because we're not good at this whole scheduling thing. Greg's going to be at Judges Week, which is kind of the pre, for people that don't know, because most people probably wouldn't know this. Unless those in last week's gamescast. where we explained it really well except for the timeline. Yeah, exactly.

Because in my head, I'm like, next week, because we do that, you know, the shows later, whatever. I'm like, next week would be my last week in the office, so they went and it just all they fucked up. He fucked up. But Judge's Week is like a pre-E-3 thing where Jeff Keeley invites the adventures of games journalism.

Steve, what's going for you? No, I think Ryan McAfee's leading. Oh, nice. I get to hang out with Ryan? Awesome. And everyone wants to go. and see a bunch of games. Not all the games,

but a bunch of games. Yeah. I don't know how this number works as I never went. But there's usually, like, if there's any huge surprise at E3, that's not there. Yeah, they're usually not the big,

like, and one more thing. Death Stranding. It's what, the whole thing about Judges Week is that you go to, so you, the person, the judge, goes down there to represent the thing to play the playable games that'll be at E3

so that when they, when E3 comes and you see the rest of the games that are playable there, you can vote on what the best games of E3 were. But so like, yeah, when it's like, hey, there's a Spider-Man trailer, you wouldn't see that early. Anything that's not playable, you're not going to see early.

And there's also being a judge. So, like, an outlet like IGN can send multiple people, but only one person is the judge. Yeah. And the judge gets to go hands-on with certain things that are only shown hands-off at E-3. So, like, a judge last year at E-3 could go hands-on with Days Gone. Or if you were me and just walked into that room, you could go hands-on with DaysCon. That's the thing, yeah. All the times I went where it was Hillary or Steve or whatever, where I was, like,

sorry, this is the judge's only event or whatever. And then you come by later and they invite you into play. You come in with the wig. Yeah, exactly. You know, gavel. That's definitely a judge. Oh, we're the judge of that. You have,

you try to make a judge dread helmet. You're like, he kind of looks like Mega Man, I think. Yeah. No, this has been a fun week because now the fog of war starting to clear. Yeah. Where people are like, hey, we want to book you for this E3. You know, we have this game and this thing and this unannounced game.

I'm like, will I get to see these next week so I don't have to see them to E3. And they're like, you're going to see those. I'm like, awesome. Unannaski. It's going to be a big one. Last year was kind of small. This year's going to be put a big. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm very, very, very excited about that. I'm upset. We're going to be missing you. But next week, there's a lot of Destiny 2 info. So I'm trying to get Sean the Shark Finnegan. Omn,

no, I'm going to cut you. No, you get that. He'll amplify it. He's here to promote it. Sean's hosting their shit. Probably co-hosting. I'm sure there's someone else. Yeah, I think Jose is.

Bottom of the bear. Yeah, yeah. But he's there. He's there. So anyway, that's really cool. Yeah. What games do you guys have been playing? So I'm still in the midst of my persona five, like, just like adrenaline-fueled haze.

I'm 65 hours into it. I'm on the Sixth Palace. I've been, it's grabbed me in a way that I didn't think it would or any game this year would. Like I played Zelda. I'm almost down to Zelda because I pretty much play it while traveling. And I'm like, yeah, this is Game of Horizon. Yeah, I love to her. I mean, we can talk already.

Q1's been the best Q1 ever. Yeah, far in a way. But then playing through persona, I'm like, this has hooked me more than any game, I think probably in my career. Wow. In terms of I will put like 30 hours through a weekend. I turned down a real life date because I was at my confidence rank with On was at 8. And I was like, instead of going out tonight, I can finally.

start going out with On. That's what real confidence looks like. Yeah. But then it got really weird because she said she loved me right after that. And I was like, you're not ready for that. I wasn't ready for that. Okay. And like we're dating and we're monogamous, but I haven't met all the,

yeah, you can't commit to a girl. Can't meet to a girl. It's tough. But I think, I think On's going to be my girl. Okay. A lot of people say Makoto is. A lot of people say Futaba is. Sure.

Yeah. What's the cast name? Morgana. Morgana. Morgana, who is still not sure is a boy cat or a girl cat. You'll find out. you find out. Yeah. Yeah.

There's different rules with cats. I mean, that's the problem I have with persona five is that I love it so much, but it is so all encompassing. Yeah. And it's, it's,

for me, it's that interesting thing of, you know, going to get Jen, then getting married, all stuff happening. I had to be pulled away from it moving, right?

Yeah, I just started hooking the consoles back up. And so I've been, you know, Mario carton it up because that was what's happening there. And it was like, okay, cool, this is a great natural break.

And then this, today I edit a Persona-5 video we're putting up. and it was one of those watching the clips. Like, fuck, do I want to go back and keep playing this? And it's like, my thought was like, I know I need, I'm going to get back to it eventually, but like pray. Praise here.

And it's like, do I, I feel like I need to stop and just knock out pray because that's only 40 hours. You know what I mean? I should focus on getting something done here. Any pray? Yeah, played about six or seven hours of it. I love it so far. Early on, I mean, I think the atmosphere world building,

like it is nailing that bioshop thing of the opening, which I think is awesome. I think early combat is really bad. When you just have a wrench or a pistol, the game is not fun to fight mimics. But once it starts giving you more abilities, more weapons,

and you start like sort of expanding your tree, becomes something really special. That being said, Dan Stapleton, who's reviewing it for us, has had several game-breaking bugs. Because it's PC. Don't play on PC. It's simple.

Kids, don't play on PC. They made consoles for a reason. They're perfect. Yeah, okay. Last night I played through all of Edith Finch. Finally. What remains?

That was the one that hurt me so bad because I love giant sparrow. I fucking loved the unfinished swan. And so waiting, waiting, and literally it hits is like, everything went into upheaval of like, I got it was like the busiest week of your life. I got to tear all these things up and do these things. And so it was like, I had it downloaded. I was all set. And it was like last night we came home from dinner.

I'm like, Jen, let's just play through this. Just sit down with me and do it. And that was like a great experience of sitting there talking to her. Like, you know, playing. This is our first game. I think start to finish. We sat down and played. You know what I mean?

So like, it is that perfect like, what do you think it's happening? And it's also, it's movie length. It's an hour and 45 minutes, two hours. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And it was like, there's so many awesome, they do such a great job of breadcrumbing it. Mm-hmm. Of just like, from the moment you get in there,

I'm just like, what the fuck happened here? Like, why is it like this? And what is going on? Why did everyone leave in a hurry? And, you know, trying to figure all that out.

It was like, I couldn't wait to get to get to figure it. And it's one of those games. it's hard to talk about like the exact reasons I love it because the specifics will spoil things that ultimately like not knowing things going in, especially like stories in the back half of the game, not knowing what they were, like how they would play out was one of the coolest experiences I've had this year. I wouldn't mind if I can interrupt you for one second with you host him. If we got through all the games, if we could do a little bit of a, all right,

spoiler cast version of this game because I'd love to actually talk about it. Yeah, because There are a few of them that I totally want to just be like, this is cool. Let's pause right now then talk about what you've been playing, everything else and go from there. Yeah, the one thing that I've been playing is Fire Emblem Echoes, which is something that I can't believe that I played because I talk so much shit about it.

It's like, why is there so much Fire Enable being thrown at us? I love Fire Enblem. But like, when we got that direct, I'm like, guys, I can wait for the Switch one. Like, Awakening, fantastic game on 3DS. And then Fates, all three of them, awesome. So, so into that.

But that was just last year. Yeah. And that was a lot, especially with all the DLC. Lot of Fire En three games. Yeah, that's a lot. It's a lot. So I'm like, I don't necessarily need more Fire Rumble right now. And I was just like, and especially on 3DS, I'm like, give it to me on the switch.

This is just a disaster. Like, come on. I get why they're doing it. But I'm just like, ah, but then Nintendo Senate and I was looking at it. And I was just like, fuck. It's happening. It's happening. It's happening.

So I brought it home last night. I played for like an hour, hour and a half or so. And it's just like, it's one of those things where I'm like, all right. I am so into the story. I never played the original that it's, this is a remake. So this is a remake of the original. This is a remake of the second one. Oh,

Fire Emblem 2. There was a remake of Fire Emblem 1 called Shadow Dragon on the DS back in the day. That's the Mark, the game with Mark. This is Fire Emblem 2, which was called Fire Emblem Gaden back on the NES. And it was a bit of, like many NES games. The second one was a little bit different in style than the first one.

So this is a remake of that on the 3DS. and it for the first time in Fire Emblem adds 3D dungeon crawling for some parts. And that part, that shit sucks. It's so, it's so gimmicky. I said ooh too quickly. It's like the problem with it is it feels so shoehorned in and it doesn't add to the game play at all. It's just kind of there. And I'm always just like, I just want to get back to the Fire Emblem part.

Like whenever I was playing it, and to be fair, that wasn't too much of it that I had to go through. But the biggest issue with it is that it's still built on the engine of awakening. So, and like, it's just, it doesn't ever look as good as other 3D, the dungeon parts. So it's not like as good as like Pokemon Sun and Moon, for example. So just kind of like a weird thing that they put in just because like, you could tell that they're like, all right. Well, the last couple 3DS Fire and Bloom games have had a lot of really good content in it. We need to add something to this NES game. Yeah.

You know, to kind of beef it up a bit. Yeah. My biggest fear with this thing I mean there's two things Is one is I feel like Fire Emblem is like that dude In the movie Finner He was this fat dude who ran

He ran over a young guy He was thinning a cursus It was that He ran over the young gypsy girl Sure but I She wasn't young She was old No but

No he ran over a young one And then the old woman Who was like her grandma Said like I put a curse on him Finner Man I remember the grandma Who cursed him being a man Like an old like old man

Oh I think you're right I haven't seen Finner in quite some time No I think you're right right that it was, it wasn't, it wasn't. I feel like I was, okay, so Fire Emblem, the thing is, for so long, we were like,

why isn't this thing in America? Why don't we have this? Where is this? And all of a sudden, it's like, we're cursed with so much Fire Emblem. Super Smash Brothers, new character announcements. Yeah, here's three games in a year. Here's the NES game. Here's a mobile game.

And we're just sort of like, all right, pump the brakes for a bit. Also, I don't want anything on my 3DS anymore. I just want things on my Switch. Exactly. Yeah. But the thing is it did pull me back in, but that's because the firearm games are quality games. And this is a quality game.

And the story, I'm like, oh, man, like this seems like a good fire emblem story. Because some of them are a little hit or miss. I'm like, I'm totally sold. Fairly generic. Two kingdoms fighting, whatever. But I'm like, oh, shit, I'm hooked on this. And I think I'm going to keep playing it. There's certain features in it.

In some ways, it feels backwards because there's not the same type of support system that the Awakening and Fates had. Yeah, yeah. Because the old game didn't have that. Yeah, 30 years. there's no marriage and all that stuff. There's still like the tech support stuff, but... Tech support? Yeah.

Who needs marriage when you have tech support? So that stuff's fine. But then the problem is, since it's an old game, and the maps are all super barren, and they're open, and they're not as fun as the newer ones. Yeah. And there's too many frustrating points where there's, like, choke points where it's, like, only a single unit can, like, go through. And it kind of slows the gameplay down a bit, where I'm like, ah.

It just feels like they just put this. out just to put it out. And I'm like, it's not bad. It's just not, it's nearly as good as the other two. Yeah. Or four, depending on how you want to talk about them. So, I don't know. But there is a cool feature where one of the main characters has an ability called

her turn wheel, where you can kind of rewind time a bit. So if a character dies, you can make that not happen. And it's part of the gameplay. So it's not like turning off the perma death shit. I don't know. They have casual mode. Yeah. No one does that.

I like that in games. Like, wherever you play has. that Disney Afternoon Collection had that where it's like hey these games are like tough as piss like Battletoads is so hard like DuckTales 2 so hard so just if you want to get through it just use the rewind yeah like that it's like braid but I don't cry at the end now with the braid thing do you remember the soldier boy video of him playing braid yeah I tried to get soldier boy to do the same thing for the witness what he turns out it's kind of hard to get you touch with a soldier boy which I found weird because I thought it'd be easy yeah Tim talked about social boy day he's like

do you know him super well I'm like I know I know know, the name I know, and I remember the braid video. He's like, what braid video? I'm like, oh, the funniest video of all time. No. So what? This game won't make no sense. You can just rewind.

Yeah. I love everything. I imagine him doing those little lion snake TV puzzles and the witness. Sure. Yeah. Oh my God. Anyway, that's all I have to say about Fire Emblem. Okay.

Let's go back. Now, we're getting into spoiler mode for what remains of Edith. Edith Finch. Yeah. Like the bird. Go for it, boys. Okay. So the spoiler mode, we can take the gloves off.

Yeah. Did you expect the unfinished swan thing? No. I totally fucking did it. And it was totally that thing where the wheels clicked into place. Yeah. Because the kid was named Morton there too, right? And I didn't think about it, didn't do anything.

And I'm with Jen last night and I got up to the clock tower. And I looked in, and I went, holy shit. And she's like, what? And I'm like, it finally makes sense why this kid's painting everywhere. You looked in and you saw the frog painting and the gold and the, you know, I was like, awesome. And so then I started going back in my head. It was so good.

I'm going back in my head. I'm like, wait, so is this the, is this legitimately the kid? And I'm like, because his mom died and we didn't know what happened. to her and doubted and I'm like running through my head. I'm like, fuck, is this the, this is the thing? Like, holy shit. Yeah, that's him. And yeah, and, uh, you and Dallas said on Reddit that, yeah, it's totally canonical. Like the unfinished swan is that he is the king of that. That when he disappeared and nobody knows where he went, he went into the painting. And it was like, what a brilliant fucking thing. And I was, because it, yeah, and he's, because they kept

it strong. I thought it was going to happen, of course, is that we got to the end and he was going to be there. Or you know what I mean? That Morton was going to be the one that we didn't know about. Because especially when she says earlier, I'm the last or maybe one of two. And you don't, yeah, I even put it together. She was pregnant. Yeah. And it was like, okay, cool, whatever. And then it was like, I was like, it was one of the few moments where I like, holy shit.

She's like what? And I'm like, yeah. I don't even have to put this into words to you. If someone didn't play the unfinished salon or didn't remember it, you're just, you sound insane trying to explain it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It was four or five years ago, probably since unfinished salon. Yeah. It was 2012. Yeah. Yeah. It was judgment day. That's right. That was one of the games that year.

Yeah. Lost a journey. Yeah. It was a very good game too. Yeah. the horror movie one. Yeah, the one that... The creepy tales from the crib.

And John Carpenter's Halloween theme kicks in and it's this cell-shaded first-person shooter. Dude, this game is something amazing. That's the thing is, like, you think you know what this game is, because it's all these vignettes you play. And you think you know, you're like, oh, this one's an animal.

Like, I'm turning into animals. It's kind of janky. This one, I'm a kid on a swing. Okay, I get it. And then all of a sudden, they're like, curveball, curveball, curveball, the one where you're, the right stick is playing an evolving RPG,

while the left stick is a fishmonger. I got to that part last night and it was like, I had flown back from North Carolina that morning. So I'm running on like no sleep. I was like, I had to sit up and Jen's like, you're okay? I'm like, yeah, hold on. I just got to, I got to focus for a second here because it was totally one hand doing one thing

and the other doing the other. And I was like, what the fuck? That, I mean, like, then just the regular narrative like going down and like this guy you thought was gone or dead or whatever has been living under the house for forever. Like Jesus. And then he finally comes down. get saved by a train.

You're like, Jesus, what a great, what a morose motherfucker. The shooting the deer for the first time. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, that was tragic. Yeah, the game sounds, you literally, we literally sound insane. This sounds, what the,

I thought you were talking about just the, the unfinished swan part sounds insane. Oh, no. No, this whole thing sounds insane. Dude, it's one of those, like I was worried about this one because it was that,

man, giant sparr, you're on to something. I loved this. I love this. I love the fact that you, that Sony brought you in like they did, uh, you know, that game company.

Thank you very much. You signed you this three game deal and you're gonna do all the stuff. And then when Giant Sparrow put it up way too early and said our next game is even finished. And they tore it down a few hours later. You're like,

Sony's probably not happy about that. And I played the animal part at Judges Week two years ago. And so that was literally two years ago. I played that part. And so that's why I was like, I was the same way for the game of like. Well, since then it had been dropped by Sony,

right? Yeah, exactly. By Anna Pure Runner? Yeah. Which is also because that's like they make, they produce fucking right. movies and all of a sudden they have some of the coolest indies on the horizon.

When I was like, man, how do they do this? And then they go through and I saw Deb Morris pop up. Like, oh, Deb went there. No wonder this is what's happening. Yeah, because she was at Sony Santa Monica forever incubating all these different people. And so yeah, I was like, ooh, I hope this game comes together and gets is as good as we hope it is because this is the, you know, that game company curse as well of just like, man, we love that game. Holy shit, your next game was better.

Holy shit, your third game was amazing. And now, Dijonova Chen's like, I don't know what's that. That's the insane thing is like four years, five years, I guess. since I'm finished one, it seems like an eternity, especially for a smaller indie game. But when you think, well, this game came out and it's great, but all we know about the that game company game is that logo or, right?

They didn't even have a name. It was like a bunch of people like in a field. A new one? No? Yeah, their fourth game. They like showed the logo. It was like a bunch. It was like people in a field.

This was a while ago. Probably four months ago, five months ago. That was literally all it was. It was like a triptych. I think they released three pictures. Is that what a triptych is? I don't know. Isn't that what a triptych is?

It's three images that create one image. It's a triptych, kids. I thought a trick dick was like when you do like, you go to those penis shows. Just going up. What's your trick? I go up and I go down. It's a trick.

It's a trip. A triptych. Yeah. It's like going to like a vacation with a penis. Well, yeah. November 1st, 2016. But it looks like some breath of the wild shit.

Wow. Thanks for going to Polygon. I just want to whatever. Search results. You know what I mean? Their SEO is so good. I don't know. Just ask them.

They got magic from it. The unnamed title simply referred to as quote, That next game. Nice. I love that. That next game. All right. There's some weird candles.

Yeah. But I was such an unfinished swan fan because that year I do think, I think, I think, I can't remember if I voted for Journey, but I think I might have voted for The Walking Dead. Yeah. That was fucking awesome. But I remember stumping hard for unfished swan just because I thought it was so great and I love the narrative. And I reviewed it and I called like a, like a hot, it reminded me of drinking cocoa under a blanket.

It was like that. Yeah. What a great feeling. Like a fair tale. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And so, yeah, have this tied in the universe.

But like, it was one of the things I never thought about. I never bothered to even wonder if these were in the same universe. And then to get there like, holy shit. Yeah. Fucking brilliant is that. But then just like the game does such a great job of like I was saying in the beginning. Like breadcrumbs throughout of, you know, okay, cool. Like, wait, why did everybody leave here in the middle of just the night and like, literally there are like, like, there's Chinese food left on the counter because people just fucking.

The she wrote us from years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And then you get to that first bedroom door. And she's like that. And then mom sealed all the bedroom doors. I'm like, what? your mom's a sociopath.

Like, what the fuck happened here? And to go, yeah, and then it was the nods back to where, like, there was a comment of like, one or two. I'm like, oh, Morton. All right. I know where we were going with this. And I remember, it didn't make sense to me until we got the reveal of her being pregnant because I looked down and I was like, oh, okay, this is interesting.

And like, you could see your belly and I thought it was just a weird perspective. You know what I mean? And then they made an interesting, she made an interesting comment of like, you could tell these passages, passageways were made for smaller hands and what, lighter bellies or something like that. And I was like, that's a weird thing to say. It's also the game, the first 20 seconds of the game, you play as her son. You're on that boat. You're on the ferry.

Yeah, with the broken arm. You have the cast and everything. And so, but it's one of those things, you don't know anything about the game. So you don't, you almost forget what that is. My thought was going to be that I was going to break my arm in this journey. And that was me with my diary. Yeah. Coming back after the whole adventure or whatever.

Yeah. Now, so do you think she dies during childbirth, you know? I haven't, I haven't looked at anything since I didn't know anything going in. Yeah, I haven't actually deeped up. I, that's my guess. Yeah. Is that he is the last living one. Yeah.

His, he is learning who his mom was via this journey. Because Jen and I were having this conversation where we were sitting there talking about afterwards of like, you know, she writes the thing and she's like, if you're reading this. I want to, I want to tell you all these stories in person. But if you're reading this, I'm guessing I'm already gone. Yeah. And that was my thing of like, oh. And then when it popped up her family tree and it said 2017 for her, I was like, oh, did she die during childbirth?

Yeah. He's getting this to do all this stuff. Yeah. But what a fucked up family. They are cursed. 100% all those people die in weird ass ways. Oh yeah, it's fucking insane. Sticking your head in the fucking fish grinder.

Don't do that. This game sounds crazy. It is. It is. It is. It is. The baby drowning in the bathtub, that whole scene where it turns into

like fucking Fantasia. And it was like that thing of like, as soon as we went there, I was like, here's how it's gonna go. And Jen's like jump on the handle. I'm like, I know that's what's gonna happen at some point where we're not there. And it's like the fucking dad leaving the letter to the mom on the divorce fucking degree.

Korea about this. You're like, fuck. The thing is, like, if you take away the magical realism, this is the most depressing, just nonstop, brutal, emotional beating you will ever take. But the magical realism adds light and hope to everyone. It is, but except if it was like,

this baby's dying, but there's fun. Yeah, yeah. A little doodle of a mother family tree. Yeah. Yeah, really good stuff. All right. Yeah. Well, there you go. Spoiler mode is now over, which I guess is impossible to tell it. Yeah, no.

But I mean you're shot out for somebody, maybe on the audio of the full thing. They know it's happening. You can do this whole thing with the tab of the head. We still say, Snape killed Dumbledores, right? Yeah, on page, whatever it was. 69. It was actually pretty late in the half-legged prince. It wasn't 609.

Next topic of the day. I want to talk about replaying games. Okay. What's you guys is stance on this? See, I'm glad you brought this topic up. Take your note for Kevin. He'll get Mad if you'll take you. You're so right.

Because I thought you playing with the pen. I thought you were all set to do it. You were actually pointing towards it. I want to tell you something too. The pen, great look for you. This is a good look for hosting a podcast. It makes me feel a bit more.

I'm all fidgety. What the fuck is up with this fidget stuff, by the way? You guys know what I'm talking about? Yeah. We put up an article with a bunch of links to fidget stuff and people just keep buying them. What is fidget stuff?

So, you know, people get all fidgety. Oh, like that cube, the distraction. There's like a thousand of them, though. Yeah, yeah. They just, I don't think I've ever seen a product. Blow up overnight. go this viral out of like from zero to 60

and just people are buying a thing. Yeah. You know? I'm seeing every, every single goddamn picture on the internet. Turns out, uh, 2017 is the year of everyone becoming anxious.

Yeah, I was gonna say one or one. Yeah. At dice, at dice, Randy Pitchford walked over and he had one. He was showing it to me. I was like,

that was actually a magic trick. Oh my. Oh my. My wallet and pants are gone. I was like, what are playing games. Yeah. I hit you up about this.

Yes, you did. Because what happened is, I don't know your guys is stance on it and what your history is with it. For me, For me, it was last night, the excitement of getting my Minecraft switch code in the e, in the emails, downloading and then be like, well, am I really going to play Minecraft again?

Like, I could play it on Vita. I still haven't gotten the platinum in that. I could go chip away at that. But is this one better? But then it was just the whole thing of like, well, what about replaying games in general? And not even Minecraft, because granted, every world is going to be a different experience. But what about like, I'm like, oh, I can't wait for Super Mario World whenever they get that on the e-shop for Switch. But it's like, I've played that a million times.

I've bought it a million times. I think every time I buy it, I probably play less and less of it. just like having it. And it's the same thing like, Prapa the rappers here. And Lococo is out this week. And that means Patapon's got to be coming scene, which is a different story because we'll play the fuck out of Patapon.

Everyone will, won't they? They'll buy a new one, get one for the Vita. They're probably, but I want to know. Like I was even made the joke on the old shows. You know, old game is old. Or I don't want to play the game that I've played before. I didn't know how you guys came down.

Well, especially this year, it's almost, it's, I feel bad. If I'm replaying something, I feel bad because I'm like, I still haven't gotten to Neo. Yeah. I still haven't gotten to near, which are two games like right at the top of my list that I need to play.

Yeah, I want to play near bed. And we're about to get into like, I need to play more of prey. I'm going to fuck around with injustice for a little bit. And then all of a sudden we blink in its fall. Yep. And so going back and playing like Destin Lagary at IGN, he talks about he played Mass Effect 1 30 times.

Every time as a man, which I found fucking flabbergasting. I was like, how did you not accidentally create a woman? At any time to hear it. any different dialogue to do something different. Hey, you know, your favorite game of all time? You play 29 times. What if you can play it a little bit different this time? I'd be like, sure, fuck it. The journey wanderers naked this time. Okay. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's a Rick and Morty scheme. Yeah. And so like in my mind, especially longer games, I don't replay. That being said,

there are probably 10 games I replay on a yearly basis. Really? Journey is probably the most recent one. Okay. But a lot, mostly Super Nintendo games. You mentioned Mario World. It's, Mario World, The Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger. These are games I go back to, literally, annually. Really? And then the- Why? What brings you back to them?

It's, I still do think the Super Nintendo is the best console of all time. I don't think, I don't, I feel like, I don't want to say games peaked there, but my personal taste in games peaked there. Like, I don't think there will ever be a better Mario, Zelda, or Metroid game than those three. As much as I love Breath of the Wild, but I think it's like a genre-defying game. So I go back to there, it's comfort food. It's knowing exactly what to do. I go back and play Banja Kazui because it is, it's muscle memory.

Like we played through all of Banja Kazui like a year and a half ago on Christmas. It was me, Andrew and Alana. And we played through the entire thing and got 100% and didn't need a guide. It was just like, I remember doing this. I've done this enough. It's familiar. And then the other reason I replay games is if is to show someone something. Sure.

Like if I start dating someone, it's like I want to show them PT or I want to show them Catherine or The Walking Day. But other than that, like, I'm never going to go back and replay a 100-hour RPG. Well, that's the thing when, like, you know, one, well, the trophy list will pop for like, whatever weird Japanese RPG and it is like, play it three times. Like, man, the fuck, this game's 50 hours long. You guys had an inch around the other week. Yeah, well, yeah, personal.

Platinum fucking persona. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't find, yeah, exactly. I can't carve out any time to get past like hour 30 and he's out there playing it twice. And that's the thing I'm with you on. It's just like, it's so hard to sit there and be like, I'm, I feel guilty playing more persona because I feel like I'm, yeah,

missing so much now that the wheels are starting to turn again, let alone the things I left in the dots, right? Like, Neo is never for me, but near, near since we did the square stuff. And I saw that for the first time, really. I was like, shit, that game was awesome. Yeah. And now I get to fight the Square Unix CEO. Fuck yeah. All right. I feel like near is that game this year.

Everyone most, so many people are sleeping on. Like, not on purpose, but just on the fact that Horizon and Zelda and Mass Effect. I mean, it came out in that right in there. But it's also of that quality, though. That's what everyone is saying. I'm like so many people I trust online are like, Patrick

wrote so much about how, like, this is fucking game of the year material and this is so insane. Yeah, I need to play it. I love replaying games. I'm all about it. But I also don't play super long games

to begin with. Like I think that it has, like Zelda is the obvious thing for me where I'm like, I invested a lot of time into that game. Horizon, I just try to do bare minimum, just beat it.

I had a great time doing that. But I don't think I'll ever replay Breath of the Wild. You know, like that's not the type of experience that I need to go back to. And they added new game plus two right in the update?

Yeah, hard mode. Hard mode. Hard mode. Yeah. It's not a new game plus. It's just that you can continue playing. Oh, okay. Have it be different because technically your save point before Gannon.

You can't save after Gannon. Sure. Spoilers games. The boss in the video game. Yeah. But I'm with you where annually I'll play through a whole bunch of games. Most of the Mario's, like the old Mario. So one, two, three, world.

Star Fox 64 is on that list for me. I go back to Pokemon Red and Blue. in golden silver all the time. Oh yeah, man. Did you replay them when they came to 3DS last? And I replayed him even though I had recently replayed them. And I was just like, am I going to do this again? Yes, I am.

I totally am. And most of the time I replay Pokemon, it's on an emulator of some sort. Like I remember for a long time with my PSP, I had a Game Boy emulator and I could use turbo mode. So it would speed things up. Yeah. Because the old Pokemon games are real. Oh, yeah.

But I think. That's because Pete, you had that fat. He was still fat. Shout out to fat Pikachu. I miss fat Pikachu. I miss fat Pikachu. I miss fat Sonic. I miss fat Waluigi. Oh, fat Waluigi.

Yeah. I don't think he ever existed. He's a warrior. But I think the game that I replayed the most is Super Mario 64. I go back to that. At least, maybe not all the way through, but the first half of that game, like the first half of the levels, I replay those things. So much. That's really funny.

You say the first half because I could encyclopedically, 100% the first. probably six worlds in Mario World, but if I got to like, there's one where you have to raise and lower the water, I'd probably be like, oh, I haven't played this one that much. Definitely don't remember this one. No, I mean, that's the thing. It's like, because, yeah, it gets progressively. The levels get less and less interesting in Mario 64.

But that's a story from another time. But I think the games, besides that, like, because those I kind of just play through them, the games that I go back to replay the most are things that don't really have story or narrative at all. So, Amplitude, Tony Hawk's Pro skated. Sure. Like, I love just going back. back and fucking around for 15 minutes. I wonder.

When I think back in like stories you're telling here, right? The game I've replayed the most then is Metal Gear Solid 2, Suns of Liberty. Cause when that, it's always I make the comment that, you know, if it had a platinum, I would have it.

I'm talking about back in the day. Sure. Because I mean, I played that thing nonstop. And there was a moment where, because I wanted all the dog tags. I wanted all the ghost pictures. I wanted all stuff.

And I just remember playing freshman year of college, just playing it over and over and over again, getting everything. And then getting furious when my next, years later, my other college roommate borrowed it and came back with a different memory card in it. I'm like, motherfucker, where's that memory card? And he couldn't find it. I was like, all of it was gone. But it was like, I never needed it again, but I wanted it kind of thing. Like, it were moving.

I finally looked down and tossed out my EA sports PlayStation 1 memory card that had all my PlayStation 1 like Spider-Man says. I'm like, I'm never going to boot this back up. Don't worry about it. But that one was like, there was this moment where Poe called me back when he was finally playing it. And it was like, I'd already done the whole platinum of it. And I was in a friend's room and I walked him through. I'm like, wait, what difficulty you playing on? He's like, I'm sorry. There's gonna be two more guards I left off. They're gonna be here in this.

Yeah, and da-da-da-da. And I hung up and the one guy was like, what the fuck's wrong with you? How do you know, and I'm like, I can just see it all. Yeah. But I wonder as we talk about it,

how much for viewers and then even younger kids, if they're still replaying the games they got. Because remember for us, it was like you get a game on your birthday. You get a game at Christmas. Then you got a scrimps save, whatever, cut lawns and go to Funkoland and make all these horrible trades

to make sure you get that chance. I wonder if that's still happening or if it is, games are just so easy. Digital everything has made everything so easy to get more. Games are cheaper. You can download free games on your phone. Yeah, yeah. Dollar games on Steam.

Not to mention there's so many more distractions now for free as well. I think also there's a difference, though, between replaying a game over and over and over and over and over again, back to back. Sure. Sure. Those are kind of different conversations because the latter is going back to something. Sure. Whereas when you're a little kid and you only have Frogger's great adventure on the PlayStation 2. Hell yeah.

Like my brother. you get addicted to that shit and he played that and Mark Echo's getting up like no one's damn business. He loved that game. He got up. He got up. He got so up. But like those games, there's a ton that I just replayed the hell out of just because it's what we had.

But yeah, I mean, going back to stuff like Middle Gear Solid 4 is one that I would never necessarily want to replay the whole game. But just there's certain parts. Yeah, I think I never want to replay the first segment, but I'm like I always want to go back and replay that European noir one. There's like

The one to ended in the motorcycle chase. Yeah, and there's like I want to go back. And I want to go back to Shadow Moses. Like that stuff is so awesome. But you have to get through so much. And also, there's no way to play Metal Gear Solid 4 unless you have a PS3, which is upsetting. Yeah. They need to fix that shit.

I do. I mean, I guess the thing for me is just the fact of like, I don't know. I want to replay games. And I just can't because I feel like for me, games are my main source of entertainment. In the same way, I don't like rewatching movies because I know what's going to happen. You don't like rewatching movies. No. I used to as a kid watch him all the time.

And like now it's fun to go back. Like, you know, I popped in chasing Amy a couple of weeks ago while I was packing because I was like somebody had mentioned. I'm like, I haven't seen that forever. You know, I pop back and I'm like, I didn't remember scene for scene and even word for word. But games is the way of like when cool, here's the HD Batman collection. You know what I mean?

I was like, oh, fuck yeah. Or you know what I mean? Whatever. Remastered at Batman. And I put in Arkham Asylum and I got a few hours in, which is deeper than I normally get on these things. I was like, yeah. And it's like the times they've re-released Peace Walker with trophies.

And I'm like in my head, I'm like, fuck yes, finally, my favorite game of all time. And then I popped on a plane. I'm like, hey, something comes out, I get distracted, and it's over. Yeah. And we live in a world now where remasters and just up-rest games and remakes and whatever are just so constant, where it really does put this topic to the test of what are we willing to replay. And aren't we? Because there's certain games. Metal Gear Solid 2 comes to mind and 3 as well.

And Final Fantasy 10 and 102, where I love those games on PlayStation 2 so much. And when it's like, oh, fuck, there's HD versions of them and they're coming to Vita, I'm like, oh, shit, I'm definitely gonna really play that in Vita. I remember playing Vaughn Fancy 10 and thinking I would give anything to play this portably. Like, if that would have happened, oh my God, I'd put so much hours into it.

And then it happens. I played the first five hours. I'm like, I can't keep going. That was, I felt the exact same, like I fucking love Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, and Breath by Sleep. And they, you know, they came out, they're on PS4, the entire thing.

And I'm like, am I really? Like, I feel like I'd be, bad at my job if I put 200 hours into these games and someone's like, did you play near? I'm like no. No. I can't. And the same thing like Final Fantasy 12, the zodiac age is coming out. This summer and that's my favorite.

Final Fantasy is my favorite. Final Fantasy game of all time. It's my mind. Yeah, it's all about those sixes. I go 12, nine, and six. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think I'm not done with 15 yet because I keep replaying banjo. IGEN's top Fallen Fantasy games

of all time. Number one was Final Fantasy 12. It was six and then 12, and people were very mad at that. And that was because Zach and I led that meeting. And Zach and I both were like, it was, we were biased. Zach and his denim jackets. Get out of here. His handsome face. Get out of here.

You're good looking son of a bitch. Yeah. And then Megan Sullivan was just fucking furious because she's like 12 shit. Yeah. We got the votes. Too bad. But then there's something for me, Crash Bandicoot, insane trilogy coming in the summer.

And I'm, I'm playing these shit out of that game. Yeah. Like if the platinum's achievable, I'm doing that. See, and that's what scares me about it all. How many times I've been stoked about something coming out, like a Bastion coming to Vita. And I love Bastion. And I reviewed Bastion on Xbox and all this different stuff

and played through it on Vita. And then when it was like, all right, cool, new game plus, I was just like, who, you know, and I'm gonna take a break and never come back to it. You know what I mean? So like, now that Patupon is coming, it's like, I hope that I've taken so much time off of Padapon, let alone Pat upon one, you know what I mean?

But then I do have a feeling it's going to be all the changes that were made for Patupon 2 and 3 that I love so much. They won't be there on one. I'm like, ah. It's funny. Fuck it up and put some trophy in there. As like, sort of worried as I am to replay games,

just for that one reason, I rewatch my favorite shows all the time. I've seen Lost a thousand times. Like I've watched, I've seen La La Land seven, eight times and it came out four or five months ago. So it's one of those things. Like if I love a movie or a TV show,

I will just constantly rewatch it and force people in my life to watch it. I wish I had that thing because there was the thing, you know, like when Smallville came, you know, here's the every episode. And I was like,

yeah. And I'm beyond infamously. I was like, I'm going to watch every episode and put up a review on the blog. And he's like, no, you're not. And I'm like,

no, I will. I'll bet a pizza on it. And I made it like four episodes in. And I'm like, oh, I do not want, I remember all this really well.

I don't need to be rewatched it. You got to stitch in your side. Oh, shit. I got to slow down on Tom Willing going a little too fast here. Yeah, yeah. I remember when they re-released the devilmate cry,

H. collection. I loved DMC one specifically on PS2 era and 3 and I played a little bit and my I'm like, it's something about I do replay a lot of games for a little bit just to get a taste. Just remember it right? Like when they released the Prince

of Persia trilogy in HD or whatever on PS3 with a 3D mode that was garbage. Oh, remember 3D mode? Yeah. And that trilogy is one of my favorite gaming trilogies of all time. I know a lot of people only like the first one. I like all of them. And when I was replaying it, I beat

first one, started playing through the second one. Despite really liking it, I was like, I just, I'm not going to keep doing this. Yeah, totally. Because I started to realize I'm just doing it to do it. And that's never a good reason to be doing anything. And people, like, people will write into Beyonder

unlocked all the time and be like, like, what are your thoughts? I play it through half a game and I'm not liking it, but I should finish it, right? And my thoughts are like, no. Like, if you're tired of something, just like, it's totally fine to bounce. Like, you're not doing a disservice to anyone.

And time is like the most valuable commodity we have. I feel like at least me personally. I guess money is probably the most times the second most valuable commodity. And so, yeah, if I'm like halfway through something and not feeling it as long as I don't have to finish it for work, I'm like, yeah, I find bouncing. Yeah. So we're playing games. We fucks with it.

We fucks with it. Not really, but you guys do. You fuck with it. I feel like you've fucked with it. I think. And then I shake my head. I walk away. Next time I see you tweet about replaying a game, I'm going to be like, oh, you

fucks in with it again. I will, yeah, okay, fair, fair, fair. Or if they ever put out infamous. Shoo Hey, if you're listening, put out infamous number one. Please listen. On PlayStation 4, please. Someone listen. Also, uh, uh, sucker punch, please make a video.

Are they making something all right? Ooh. It's gonna be called famous. Yeah. It's a Nashville. Yeah. I'm into it. Totally into it.

So a couple months ago. We did a topic, the two topics actually, that were every game coming out before E3. And what we thought about. it if we thought it was going to get delayed sure and if you thought was going to like set the world on fire or whatever there was there was a ton of games but this was post horizon and then into pre-e three three three three now I want to do the same thing before e-3 happens of all the games that we know that are either having a release date in 2017 or that are said to be coming out in 2017 and we'll kind of go from there and also it's the

discussion of what games are we most excited for pat-pon the rest of the year I'm not talking about Panapon. You fuxing with it again. I want people to know. They need to know. Start, I mean, the first big one for me,

Crash Banticute, Insane Trilogy, Super damn stoked, June 30th. Hell yeah. Get hype. I'm looking forward to playing it. Yeah.

I'm looking forward to playing warped. Yeah. Like, did you... Did you play... You were at PSX, right? Yeah.

Did you play it at PSX? I was a little worried playing one because I love the original Crash Bandicoot. I haven't played it in a while. I don't love as much as you do. Because it's not a good game. And the secret is I don't think it's a great game.

And so like that's why I think the remake. But I was worried. I'm like, running at the camera and doing all stuff shit. Yeah. But that's why I think I'll, I think they'll fix it. I think they're fixing the problem.

The things I hate about Crash 1. Yeah. And I'll see. Are they? They're adding analog control. Yeah, definitely. Okay.

I mean, if you play it and don't like you, just straight up, don't like it then. They fixed Crash 1. Okay. Okay. So I'm more like by the time Warped came out, I feel like they,

they, as in the industry as a whole, understood 3D platformers more. And so I feel like Warped is the one that's going to age the best of the three. Yeah, I think Warp's going to age. It's going to be the middle. I think two's going to be the best. Because the problem with Warped, Warp's my favorite. But the problem with Warped is it has way too many gimmick levels.

Way too many vehicles, way too many like random shit that are not just platforming. Yeah, so I felt about Jack 3. And I don't think those are going to age. Well, I think the rest of it will be. What happens? You beat this game and all of a sudden you unlocked CTR. Dude. Do not even fucking get me started.

Like, it's not possible. It's not goddamn possible. What if you beat in you unlock the trailer for crash this year? If they pull off the year of Dreams 3 Sony. That's like Cooper shit because that was that slide Cooper collection, remember? Yeah. When you beat it, you, when you platinum did right, you unlocked the trailer for a slide four. Yeah.

Just give me that card. Everyone's playing the Mario card. Give me that. Oh, I mean, a little throwback to the last topic. Mario card's a perfect example. Mario card eight deluxe. Share. I'm replaying that technically.

Yeah. It's like. But now you're playing a good system. So it's cool. I mean, whatever. I played the hell out of it on. the Wii you. You didn't.

You weren't that good at. I'm not saying I'm good. I'm saying I played the hell out of it. Me and you haven't had a real match since Switch came out. Anytime. You know that? We stop this fucking show right now. I feel like there's like seven people on IG and they're better at Mario Kurt than you guys.

I don't believe for a second. I think Jonathan Dorbush is better. I think. Brendan. I watched. I was sitting right next to Sean Pitts. Yeah, Brendan Graber.

Absolutely. I was sitting right next to Sean Pitts watching that. Now for the time out time out. Brian Graber, I bet is way better than me. He's way better at every game. He never played a fucking soul's game. And all of a sudden, he's like, I guess I'll do the guide for Bloodborn.

And all of a sudden, became better at Blood Born than me. I'm like, how fuck did this happen? I was sitting next to Sean Pitts, who had the $150. Yeah, I just got a check for that. Did you really? Did you see it? No. Did he give you all the pennies?

No, they didn't I'm not going with the pennies. So I was sitting next to him. Well, why do I hear this? It's not how a podcast work, Greg. You don't run off of the set. I also feel bad that Greg made this, like, poor kid. Like, he's just fresh face, pretty new at IGN. Made him, made him pay him $150.

It's going to extra life. It's going to charity. Yeah. That was the, that was... Okay, that's good. I didn't realize it was going to extra life. He swung by today with the giant novelty check. Also, he's an idiot who doesn't know how to fill out a check. No way. Pay to the order of $150. And if I'm being honest, every single time I fill out a check, I Google check, just to like see what other people do.

It says pay to the order of. That's a person. We got Venmo these days. Come on, guys. Oh, no, I was sitting next to him and I didn't realize it was happening right then. and all of a sudden he was like, shit, like, it's it, it's time. I'm like, oh, shit. And so we were watching. And I've never seen a human being lose $150. I've never, like, looked into their face as it happened.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did. And, like, it was so, obviously, the end of that race is, like, incredible. You couldn't have choreographed. Yeah, I know, right. And so, like, I was, like, I didn't want you to lose, but I wanted you to lose a little bit. And so seeing that and seeing just the, I think he was happy to be a part of it. Yeah.

But a little bit of him died on the inside. Sure. Actually, it doesn't pay a lot. No, I know. Yeah, that's the thing I'm taking him down. He just got here starting salary at IG. And I'm like, fucking give it to me. Move to San Francisco, the most expensive city in the fucking planet.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a great time. It's a damn great time. I would love it. We should do something where I come over and play. Because I'd love to come play at IG. They're starting a little bit of a league.

Oh, right? Yeah, a bunch of the new class. I'd love to. Yeah. Let's do it. I'm going to set it up. With Nintendo on the mind. Arms coming out June 16th.

We were supposed to play it this week, but we're not going to do that anymore because we're going to do a stream instead. Yeah, we have to do a stream. You like ours. From what I played at the January event, I'm like, this is a good game. It's not necessarily something right up my alley, but it's good. And I think that it has that Splatoon quality charm where if they focus enough on the characters, they'll be invited to the next Smash Brothers, and they will be Nintendo, like, on a mascoty people. And I think that it's going to find a lot of success.

within certain markets. That market's definitely, it's not going to be the general gaming public, which we saw with Splatoon. Same thing, but families are going to love it, and the people that are dedicated to playing it

are going to enjoy it a lot. We'll see. That's just from me playing it. Playing it with the motion controls is pretty garbage. Playing it without motion controls, pretty fun. See,

I think that's the thing is when I look at it, I think motion controls and I just don't want to play games that way. Yeah, when I look at it, it reminds me of like red steel. A shoehorned motion controls. I call it getting butts because I don't like it. Have you played?

Played it? No. Okay. And the other, I mean, my knocking is it makes me think it's a motion control game, which I think is going to hurt with the general public. And I think the box art and name are pretty generic. Yeah. That's the thing of like you, I see like looking through it in a store shelf. I'm like, I want to know. But again, there's not that many switches out. There's not many, there's not that many AAA games for Switch. If there is a little bit of buzz, about it being all right. Maybe people get a lot of being. Yeah. But I mean, it's, it's releasing at a tough time for a fighting game, especially because it's coming right after injustice two and then right before MVC and Peckin 7. Yeah.

and we're gonna Marvel versus Capcom, like, it's a tough year to be anything that's not them. But my thing is, it's Nintendo, and it's not a fighting game in the traditional sense.

Sure, yeah. It's more like Power Stone. It's like, Splatoon and a shooter. You know what you mean? I think it's kind of the, yeah, more Power Stoney. So, and I love Power Stone.

So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna wait. The jury's still out. We'll see where that game lands, but I don't know. Then Splatoon 2, July 21st. Again, I'm happy that I'm gonna give Splatoon another chance

because I had fun that one time we did let's play. I mean, it's one of those. Like the, the Wii U. Exactly.

I was so over Wii at that point. I never gave the game a chance. I'm going to give it a chance here. I'm interested to see what's all about. I think this game will be assuming Nintendo can get their online shit in order. The connectivity issues of Mario Kart has been so great. We don't know when the pay service is coming.

If it's going to align with this, the online pay service, or if it's going to be later on the year. But Splatoon 1 slowly became a relatively big hit, especially given how few Wii U's are out there. And it sold like almost five million. Yeah, and it's huge in Japan. Fraymere Bell liked a lot.

He just does not like Nintendo stuff. No, because Destiny never made its way to the Nintendo Switch. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, I'm excited for this. I hope there's a sort of, they lean into a single player thing because I don't really have time. Yeah, me too. That's my thing is I'm hoping for it.

I don't think that they've talked about anything yet. Splatoon 1 had single player modes, but didn't really have it. It was like the way Titanfall did. Yeah. But yeah, the, where everyone loved one level and it was like, it's our best FPS campaign of all time. one, which had like no single player.

Also, the cause and effect or truth and consequence, whatever it was called, all the rules in Titanfall 2. It's fine. You still like robots. I like robots. Just fine, all right. That was the problem. Well, they were going to have the relationships.

This is, isn't it not funny of a robot. This robot's not that funny. I don't love this robot. No, it wasn't a very lovable robot. It was a very good level, though, because I had time travel. I'm sorry, Tim. Shout to time travel. You know what?

It doesn't get a shout out. Hey, Pickman, on the 3DS. It was no gorgeous. Y 28th. Yeah. I'm not down with this. I'm not down with it either. Again, A, why isn't this on Switch?

B, why is it happening? Yeah, it just seems like my, I haven't even heard of this one. It's baby Pikmin. It's a 2D platform or Pikmin game. Okay. And it's like, no one's asking for this. It's on the 3DS.

It's, come on. It's sort of, it reminds me of like the Mario Donkey Kong March of the Minis. That's sort of like every level seems like, and you're like how? And it's, they're like, I think their whole thing is like, Pickman's too complicated for children, so we're going to get them in with this. And I'm like, stop it. Just stop it.

Also, if it's on Switch, I'd play it. I really don't want to open my 3DS anymore. No, it's over. I feel bad. Middle Earth, shot of war, August 22nd. Either you decided to play that. Yeah, I mean, I thought I'd really like Shadow Mortor. I thought the Nemesis system was one of those interesting things that I'm shocked.

Thousands of games haven't stolen since then. We did it. We had it as an IGN first. Last month, I think. The footage looked a little rough, in my opinion. just a lot of grays and browns and I don't know like also could be open world fatigue because we've already had a lot of really good open and that's the other thing is like my thing about it playing the first one was I don't like this source material I want to play

nemesis system is awesome the combat is awesome because it's Batman or whatever and that's what this was all supposed to start as but then it was like even then it was like all right cool go over here a million guys go over here a million guys but and it didn't feel like that world was lived in and this is the year of lived in open world RPGs what's over that what is over that horizon. Oh my God, something amazing's happening here. This is so cool.

And if it's more of the same over it was, just more, it's going to be, I don't know. Especially if it comes out a little bit before something like fucking Red Dead, which you know is going to nail that feeling. Yeah.

Yeah, it's tough. I do, I just want to see the nemesis system put into something like the Batman world or the Harry Potter world. Yeah. Harry Potter, that'd be cool.

Yeah. Uncharted Lost Legacy also on August 22. Do you like those games? I do like those introdating games. I'm very excited for this game. Hell yeah. I'm so excited for it. Also,

Them being like it's that sort of middle ground length between like it's it's longer than left behind But it's shorter than a traditional uncharted game Yeah fucking following the two of them. I'm totally down exactly. Yeah, I know It'll be fun different. That's what I want. It's very high on my list. I'm excited for it. I also think August is going to be a good time for it Yeah, like haven't been your last game of the summer before the fall day allusions Yeah Destiny 2 September 8th? I'm not touching it I will you were big in the first one for a while Yeah, I I fucked with it as well because I mean like big implies like I'm Destin Legary or whatever and I'm a psycho.

Oh, you mean Destiny Legerri? I know, right? He's changing his name. I'm like, damn, destiny, you're crazy. No, yeah, I played a bunch of hours the first, when it was still Destiny Vanilla or whatever, got to a level of whatever, 21 or whatever, where I didn't have to worry about anything more. And I was, I had fun with it and enjoyed it. But it was rough.

Came back a little bit for Denna Wool's, but it was by that point, there were so many people so invested who knew everything. It was like, all right, you guys are really into this and I don't really want to do that. I feel like this will be one that I get in and I do the same thing. fuck around with and by the time they're like, all right, time to worry about raids and light scores. We're like, all right, peace, guys. This is fun. I feel like they're going to try to remedy that and give, because Destiny is one of those games that like launched at like a six, five, and ended up being like a nine because once like Taking King came out, they're like, all right,

you finally delivered two years later on what this game should have been. Yeah. Which is what I think a lot of people feel about like uncharted two to uncharted one, AC2 to AC1, AC1. Well, I think, and all, especially all the games that live online, you know what I mean, the things that do change like this one. I mean, DC Universe online, I'm talking about not as a joke, you know, Rainbow Six Sege stuff like that that comes out and then gets added too.

Yeah, the division. Yeah, division. Yeah, division's a great example when I came back to when I loved it. Yeah. I think it seems to be fucking huge. And obviously, like you mentioned earlier,

we're going to get a lot more in a week. Next week. Yeah, the 19th, I think. Yeah, I'm hoping they reveal some really cool shit. And like, because like what I loved about division and not about destiny was,

first off, setting, but that aside is the fact that division I felt like, cool, I can play this single player and have a great time. And then if I do run into somebody, we run around and fuck around.

It's all benefiting everybody. Everything's going well. With Destiny, it was like, if I'm alone, I'm not having that much fun. And then when I teamed up with other people, it was sometimes I felt like I was holding them back. They were going to go off to do this. We weren't getting the same progression. And then there was Luke Cave, which I did camp outside of for like six hours. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think they did a really good job that that tone piece trailer with Nathan Philly. That store trailer was really cool. Yeah, it was really good. And it was a tone where it was, I mean, obviously Nathan Phillian was the voice actor, but it felt like firefly, borderlands. And I'm like, all right, that is a tone I can get behind. Yeah. I don't need like greedy, just like wet blanket sci-fi.

And that was the thing is like the tone for the original destiny, right, was lost and weird and not there. They literally recasted the narrator. Yeah, well, that's because in that way that shows you how vanilla original destiny was, is that that was all you had. And when you took it out and put Nolan in there, it was different. It did feel different. I don't know, but it reminds me of like the, if you watch the first season of the office or Parks and Rec, it's like, it takes a season for a thing like this to understand its voice. like Andy's the bad guy in the first season of Parks and Rec. And so I don't know why I'm comparing Destiny of Parks and Rec.

But by the time you get into the second or third season, they're like, oh, no, he's not the bad guy. He's like the lovable idiot. Yeah. Yeah. We got a mall versus Capcom infinite on September 19th. I'm excited for it. I love the Marvel versus Capcom game. Same.

Not good at them all at all, but I love fucking around button mashing and shit. I miss pixel art in 2D fighters. Same. And I understand that it's a lot more work and it's hard. But it's like, I look at this game and I'm like, it doesn't look much. better than three, and especially when they just put Ultimate, like, Three Ultimate Out on PS4. Yeah.

I'm like, playing it, like, I'm having fun with this, but it's like looking at Infinite, I'm like, yeah, it's, yeah, it's in the same boat as Injustice with me of a game. I'll get, I'll fuck around with it. I will want to see all the cool characters and Easter eggs and nods and who some of the support characters are. Yeah, because I love Marvel and I love Capcom's history. And, but like, yeah, like you, I'm never going to get good at this game.

Yeah, but it's fun. Stuff for that. Call it duty, World War II, November 3rd. Eh. We talked about it last week. I'm interested. I'm a super fucking on board for this. That trailer looked great.

They said all the right things. We're not trying to make it global. You know, span, in the globe. You're with these people for like, what is it? Six months or a year or whatever. Like, I mean, you're at the tail end of the war. The game starts in 44. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I actually went down to Sledgehammer for a couple hours, a couple weeks ago. And, and what is that? Who's that? It's the song. Sledgehammer. What song is that? Is that a real song?

That's not a real song? Sound off in the comments below if that's a real song. But yeah, talking to them, yeah, I love the idea that they're trying to tell like a realistic war story and saying like, you're not a superhero. You don't have double jump. You don't have ground pound. Like, you don't do a power slide. You dive into the fucking sand and put your head down. We haven't had a World War II game in the Call Duty series since World at War in 2008.

Also, Sledgehammer's last game was really great. It's pedigree is visceral, the creators of Dead Space. And so, Zombies mode sounds cool. I don't know. I can totally get behind this campaign. Especially in a fall that's, it seems like the core shooters of the fall are destiny. Well, that have been. Peter Gabriel. Sledgehammer. God damn. Just get to the fucking point.

What is happening? Is there a world star? It's an AIM. I know this song. I do not know this song. I didn't realize they were saying sledgehammer. Sledgehammer. That's the beat.

Sledgehammer. Okay. Yeah. The Call the Duty World War II theme song. Yeah, the finest generation. See, I could not care. 13 million people died. Cordy's over there making this slash hangaros blasting.

We got Star Wars Battlefront 2 November 17th. And that is what I am written by a heck. Two hacks. Two hacks. See, I'm so so sold on that. Yeah. Battlefront, I had such a great time with the first one. It was very limited.

I liked that it wasn't that deep of a first person shooter. I could just jump in and have a lot of fun with it. It's so authentically Star Wars and how it looks and how it sounds. And the one thing I wish it had more of was single player content. The few little missions they had where you're flying around on and doing the speeder bike and the X-Wing thing. I was so happy with it. Just because I'm like, this is what I want. It's just so much fun.

Seeing the story trailer, I'm like, holy crap, we're getting something post-Jedai. This sounds like an awesome story. I'm so sold from the empire side. Just like the idea of you're this like elite soldier, this elite imperial soldier on Endor and you look up and your home blows up. Yeah, yeah. Oh shit. What do I do now? Yeah.

Yeah, it seems fucking awesome. And yeah, obviously, full disclosure, friends of ours are writing the game. And a friend of ours is starring in it. Yeah. You know what? We all have friends. We do all have friends. But we have more in this game than you do.

What do you talk? I'm probably closer to Walt than you are. No way. Yes, absolutely. I'm kidding. I know that. Disney. It's Dyr.

I'm so excited for that though. I think Battlefront two is up there for me. I think it's my most anticipated non-Nintendo game. Wow. Yeah. I can get that. I'm interested in that story. I want to play and not even just because Mitch and Wall wrote it because it seems like a

really cool take on it. I know she'll have a change your heart by the end of it and go see the other way. I hope she doesn't. I really, I really hope she doesn't. But again, the hack that is Mitch and Walt two hacks together. They're like, what are they doing the Force Unleashed? Do it again. No, Mitch is like,

has a black heart. Oh, I know that. Yeah, he doesn't know how to love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

it'll be awesome if they get to the end and she's just like, no, I still hate you. I still hate the light and everything. Yeah. And I'm, like,

I think the prequels are terrible movies, but I think I love the aesthetics of those worlds and the creature design and the robot design. And so fuck it. Bring that into the game and like, let me fuck around on Gianosis and Camino. And bullshit ass like,

let me play his Wado. Yeah. No Wado. Let me play his Wado. Honey. What if you. He was a hero. He just came in with his...

I mean, he is. His fat... He technically is. No, he's not... He's a slave owner. Yeah, but he was good to them. It was good to your mother. Technically.

It was good to your mother. The South had some points. All right. Then we got Fire Emblem Warriors, which doesn't have an actual release date yet, but I imagine that's going to be a September game, maybe an August game. Which one is this? Firenum Warriors is the High Rule Warriors style game with Dynasty Warriors, but with Fire and characters.

Which, I mean, this is an example to me where I'm... And it's on Switch and 3DS. But I'm cool with this because it's like, there's so many fun characters in Fire Emblem and the Dynasty Warriors games are fun. I mean that Muso genre like works when you attach like they've done Gundam ones, obviously Zelda, so funny. All right, cool.

Make it happen. Then of course, Mario Odyssey, which is coming this year. Very excited for that. Do you think it's coming this year? I do. Okay. I really do think because that team moved over from 3D World's three years ago.

I have a feeling this is going to be there. I think at E3 they're going to deck out their booze. as New Dong City or whatever the fuck it is. New Dong City. Highroll last year. I think this is going to be, obviously, their flagship game. Yeah, I totally see this.

Whether it's October, early November, I don't know, but yeah, I think we'll be playing this year. Yeah, I think November. Yeah. That's usually their false spot. So the big question for Nintendo Switch,

ZenoBlake Chronicles 2, which you'd fit into the December slot, I don't trust it. Yeah, neither do I. A, I think the December slot generally is the Sent to Die slot. Last Guardian was there. Siege is one of the few examples of a game that overcame the December slot and grew on to be something.

Far Cry 3. Far Cry 3. Wasn't that the year we fucking voted on Game of the Year before? Yeah. Mitch called us in a conference room and he showed it and he was like, you got to like this game. You sold it poorly. Yeah. And then I played it over Christmas.

I was like, fuck. It's so good. This game's awesome. I think we had Zeno Blade Chronicles 2 in Japan, but not here. I can see that. Yeah. Yeah, because Xenblade Chronicle. Yeah.

Because X came out in Japan like six months before. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see from there. But then there's a couple other games that are announced for 2017. The stragglers, if you will. That just don't have any confirmed dates. The two Sonic games, Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces.

I am so sold on Sonic Mania, especially now that's coming to the Switch. I'm hoping we get that mid-June or so. I bet it'll be a July or August game. Hopefully. Like I think it needs me before fall. Yeah. The earlier the better. Do you think there's a chance it doesn't come this year at all?

Because they're a super small team, aren't they? It is a super small team. This thing's been delayed. It already got in a lot. Yeah. Yeah. They don't mean shit. You know that.

And I can't, yeah, I'm stoked for mania, not. I have nothing for forces, man. The thing is, I love generations, but I love generations just because it was pretty good. Yeah. Well, one thing good about Sunni forces is it brings back Chubby, the Chubby pregnant. That's what I love that. Yeah. I like to think that Sonic and Pikachu were pregnant.

Yeah. At some time. I like that. Yeah. It's good imagery. Crackdown. It's Crackdown coming out this year. Dude.

Fucking Microsoft. Dude. So I'm on our Xbox show and this is Microsoft's, in my opinion, the Xbox's make or break year. Like Scorpio is their big thing. They have to somehow convince people to spend money on a premium product. And then also be like, what are we playing not only this year, but next year and the year after that.

And so in theory, this year, we get the unannounced forts again. Sports 7. And then we're going to get Crackdown, state of decay, and C of Thees. From what I, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get,

leave them. Yeah. Like, I think C of thieves is this year. I don't, we don't even know what that game is yet. Like, I'm fucking stoked for it.

It was one of my favorite games. It was one of my favorite games at E3 last year. It was such, it was a fun experience. It was so much fun. And then, but Crackdown, we haven't seen since Gamescom 2015.

Which is horrible. Not a great, not great news. there. That's a red flag, guys. It wasn't mentioned at all during the Microsoft press conference last year. And then right afterwards, a press release came out. I was like, oh, by the way, you'll still work on the store. I don't know. I'm excited because a fucking crackdown one is awesome. And I love like when they showed that, that what you could do with the cloud with all the buildings falling down, right? Destroyed buildings.

Yeah. I don't know, man. I feel, I feel when we see that game, it's going to drastically different, but they went and that something went wrong and they stopped, scrapped it and came back. And that's why it's taking so long. And that's why it's so far off. Yeah. Cuffhead. Fucking cuphead. Is it this year? What are you doing? Oh, we get it this year. What are you doing? This point, what does it matter?

I know, they burned all their positive moments on that, right? Yeah, I mean, this is a prime example of, uh, believing your vision. Yeah. Well, I mean, for me, I think it's believing in your vision because this is the one everybody played and like, man, this is great. Well, what do you do outside of the boss battles? And the guy's like, it's just boss battles. And they were like, oh, we'll make levels.

And they were like, all right. So they went and made levels and they came back. And everybody's like, oh, these levels aren't good. And it's like, well, fuck. God, God, damn. I would have rather it have been like, hey, here's a game that for me, I'm like, this is too hard and I don't enjoy it, but I respect what you're doing. A lot of people are going to fucking like this.

It doesn't matter that I don't, because now it's going to come out. It's going to be a six, it's going to be a 6.5 because it's like, oh, the bosses are cool, but everything sucks getting it. Yeah, that's tough. So upsetting. Detroit. That's, there's no way. That's the sure, my opinion.

I agree. Grand Trism of Sport. I feel like it has to be this year. I mean, this is my thing when we did our, in January, when Colin Nine PES, I love you did predictions. And I was like, this is one that I see they're happening in the summer or not happening at all this year.

Like I can, I, I have no faith in them that these games always get delayed and always get pushed around. Yeah. And it's like, no, no, and this is the same thing in the audience. It's like, well, they've said 20s. And I'm like, dude, everybody says something

before they delay a game. Yeah. I mean, the tough thing is we don't know what is the state of Sony first party in the fall. Yeah. Like, we don't, we don't, knack two's in the fall, probably. Probably.

Probably. Probably. I mean, well, I mean, I could sit here and start probablying it around pretty, You're like, I, I mean, I could, this is where it always gets weird because I need it all laid out in front of me because to keep it all straight. Yeah.

I could see God of War. I could see it. Yeah. I could see you saying, E3, hey, God of War is coming this year, this, blah, blah. I could also see it being spring. I mean, that's the whole thing.

I can see the same thing with Spider-Man. Spider-Man is not this year. But if that's, if that team moved on directly from Sunset Overdrive, which was three years ago, so the game was in pre-pro before that. Yeah.

Although I don't know when that deal was signed. Exactly. That's my thing is. I think that we saw so little at E3 last year. I mean, again, to put it in context, the game doesn't have a title. They finished that trailer and it said hashtag Spider-Man PS4. Like, they don't have-

Oh, it's going to be called hashtag Spider-Man. That game is not this year, and I don't even know if it'll be next year. Like, I think they're going to, because, again, don't rush it. Oh, yeah, totally. Dude, don't get me wrong. I would love more than anyone to be wrong on that. I fucking can't wait for that game. And Somni is a Spider-Man game.

Yeah. My gut tells me Spider-Man's next year and that God of War is early next year. Like, that's in the horizon spot. But then what NAC and GT? But that's the thing is like Sony doesn't care. Who the fuck cares? Sony doesn't matter because they align themselves with Battlefront. They align themselves with Call Duty with Destiny with Red Dead.

Like that's fine. Yeah, the era of needing to be in the fall holiday season, it doesn't exist anymore. Because that's been the last three years, four with PlayStation where we're just like, what are they going to do? This got pushed and this guy. And it's like, yeah, the order went out of there. Nobody cared. You know, you uncharted went out of there.

Nobody cared. And like, Horizon went out of there. Nobody cared. Like these games are still fucking killing it in the spring, let alone killing it. against this year killing it in a stacked spring where there's so many great games out. Yeah. Ni no,

no, no. Shout to Colin Campbell. What up Colin Campbell. Rest in peace. He didn't die. I saw him actually recently. Yeah, he interviewed me at Dice. He's still very much alive.

We were going to secretly schedule Justin Davis for an interview with you at Dyson. Oh, yeah, yeah. We were going to secretly be like, oh, you get the interview unannounced guest. She just gets up and leaves so funny. I don't think it's this year. I don't think it's,

Q2 next year. I'm excited for it. I like, Neenikini 1. Yeah, I want to get on Switch. I feel like that's another we haven't seen enough of though,

right? Yeah, I think I still have a big present city. I think we've seen it. We've seen trailers. Yeah. Nobody's put it in the type of game. That's what they show.

They just had a big event here in the city a couple months ago, but no footage was allowed. I don't think we didn't do any direct feed or anything. Was it playable? Was it? It might have been a presentation. See, I don't think if it was.

I think about a presentation. I remember that. because it was a Friday night. I was like, Yeah, you don't do that. Metal Gear survive. That's not this year. I don't think that's this year.

I am morbidly curious about this game. It doesn't happen. Does it exist? That's my thing. Honestly, I think it could be a game that you never, ever see. I think this game exists, and I heard rumors that this game,

everyone's like, Kojima left and they went insane. I heard some rumors that this was Kojima's idea, that this game was going to be like a Kojima produced game. Yeah. And then he came up with the idea for wanting this thing. So it was his final, it's his little,

it's his secret bomb he put in there. He's like, You know what? He knows he's leaving. I think we should do this thing. I'm behind it. And then everyone's like, well,

he's fucking Kajima. That's him taking a shit in like the upper deck of Tami. Yeah, yeah, he's leaving. My God. Red Dead Redemption 2.

This, I really feel it's a 50-50 shot at this point. I want it so bad. So do I. But I just feel like it's going to do the GTA thing where like it was the same thing. I'm like, they have a date.

It's all set. I'm like, remember GTA 5 had a date too. And is GTA 4 as well. Both games got delayed. Yeah. And the thing with this is, they can delay as long as they want. Rockstar has carp launch.

That's one of the few studios that has that. And yeah, the only thing we've heard from that game was that one trailer in November and or September, whenever it was and it said, fall 2017. And PlayStation deals as well.

And PlayStation deals, yeah. So, like, I could see it on stage at Sony, which would be weird because Rockstar generally doesn't go E3. But Red Dead isn't GTA. GTA doesn't need to do E3. Does Red Dead? I think, I don't think the name has to cash a day.

My whole thing is I don't think, I think, I think it has a lot of cachet. And I think it's definitely built on what it had before. And I also think that you put the Rockstar logo in front of it. People understand that too. I mean, I thought it was fucking nuts when during the, I think it was the NBA finals last year or something. Or no, it might have been opening day or the first game of the NBA season. And all of a sudden there was that trailer. Yeah.

And I'm like, oh, shit. Like they're going mainstream hard a year out. Right. Yeah. I want it to be this year. I'm totally fine if it slips the next year. South Park, the Fractured Butthole. No.

Not this year? No. This is what I've been saying, man. It's like when they announced this, I was like, huh. No. The, I mean, like, I was surprised. I mean, I'll never forget that Comic-Con panel I did with train Matt. And they were like, not even joking.

Like backstage, we're just like, this has been a nightmare. Like, it's been, we love it. The game's going to be great. This has been so, well, and I remember on stage, them saying, we'll never make another game. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. And then they announced it was like, huh. And it was like this really aggressive timeline with new developers.

It's like, huh. And then it got delayed. and delayed and it's going to keep getting delayed and delayed. Like this is definitely a first half of the year. The last thing they've said, well, the last thing they've said was this fiscal year, which would be through March 31st. Yeah, I think it's next year for sure.

First half. Man. And then their Animal Crossing iOS that got pushed out of last fiscal year into this one. And they said that it is coming. I imagine at some point in a direct, I see them doing an Animal Crossing Direct similar to the Fire. And it'd be like, it's out in two weeks.

And it's like, yeah, it's like, here's the iOS one. And also there's a Switch game coming. It's going to sell a lot of comments. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's, that's all we got here. And that's not even counting. Like, we're obviously going to get huge announcements at E3. Oh, yeah. It comes out this year. Like all the leaks, all the Assassin Creed leaks.

They've been far cry rumblings. Yeah. They do Far Cry Western. If that's real. Yeah. They're saying the spaghetti Western or Montana. Whoee. Coming out in September. Spooee. Stop, but what was this who we thing? And then Bethesda land. Do you see that? No. The Betheseland thing. No. Like they showed that their E3 presence is like a theme park. And there was two things that were under

construction. There was like Doom, Wolfenstein, so and so and so and two things that's set under construction, so everyone thinks those are new things. Also, it's weird to do a theme park with Nazis and hell. That's my take. That's my quick hot take. Sounds like one I'd like. Disney. Disneyland.

That is Waltz. What is Disneyland, if not Nazi hell? Yeah. Sorry, Aranski. Classic Oranski. The last up of the day. As always, it's brought to you by you. You can go to kind of funny.com slash gamescast topic just like all these people did to leave your questions comments and concerns john bernicar says what if zelda came out mid-gen on ps4 and was called rick's adventure

would people still give a fuck it's a very interesting thing i definitely think people would give way less fucks i think it'd be a slow build of a fuck like no one would be like day one million copies moved it would just be like this everyone's like if you played ricks adventure and why i play that and then you play it you're like oh rick's adventure's really good yeah exactly and it feels a lot like Zelda. Yeah. Because I mean, that's the thing of like, remember like Ocean Horn was a port of a fucking mobile game or whatever. Ooh yeah.

We got it. And I remember being like, hey, this is actually, I played this last end. It's awesome. And then granted, and then now people are talking to me about it. But it was that thing of our audience got super behind it. They started talking. Then they asked about Vita. Now it's a Vita game.

Now it's a switch game. Like that's a game that came not from nothing, but it is like, hey, holy shit, this Zelda clone's actually pretty good. And I think Rick's adventure, like, hey, this is like Zelda just different. Now, it didn't work for Dark Siders ever. So we'll see whatever goes on there. but yeah I wonder if it would how much it would affect review scores

and people's word of mouth about it because people love this fucking game sure myself included but I wonder if you took out if it was called Rick's Adventure I probably wouldn't have played it like no matter how many times people told me like you gotta get on this I just I probably wouldn't sure but then

playing it I think that I would enjoy it almost as much but I think it would lose something I mean there's something to it that yeah it's TriForces and it's Gannon and it's Zelda and it's all the people's in your new yeah yeah music cues all these nods to the the La Man Ranch and shit like that and Death Mountain yeah I want to know what this Rick fellow is all about yeah also I feel bad that this this thing was like let's think of the most generic name from man Rick Rick Rick

Rick um Rokosho says and this is another one about Zelda hi guys long time listener first time poster do you think the Zelda game essentially screwed the upcoming Spider-Man game with its climbing mechanics not even remote shut up Critics complain if Spidey can't attach to every single wall. No. No, I imagine that Spider-Man is going to be a very different style game. I think that it'll be an open world, but it'll be a much more designed tight. New York, yeah, yeah.

And it's going to be a lot of fun to move around, but it's going to be, I think, a bit more tunnel of an experience. It's going to have the same problems every Spider-Man game has. They're just like, well, it's so disorienting when you climb onto a roof. You know what you go under the ceiling. Yeah, and the camera wigs out or whatever. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be that. don't want because yeah if you can't stick the side of a building that's a huge problem and I don't think they're gonna screw that up yeah yeah yeah remember all the weird things like

you shot your web in the sky yeah and like spider man too yeah yeah yeah remember then remember when it was a big deal like now you don't do that now it attaches to buildings and like actually had like physics and attached to that stuff it's gonna be fascinating to see how they pull it all together and what this actually looks like and how it plays and what is it and how open is it I mean they swear that that gameplay we saw that video we saw last year was gameplay yeah and it's like watching it though I'm just can't fathom how you'd play that like That scene when we bust through the cafe and is like jumping on the things. All right, cool.

The animation, I get it. Like, there could just be some way that if Spider-Man's like this, it touches the things that way and cool. But what is the player doing there? How much of a quick time event is that? Yeah, yeah. Compared to the actual, like, gameplay. Because it does kind of look like he's controlling it.

I don't know. In somnumniaks not really known for taking control away. Like Sunset Overdrive was fucking awesome. And that was the thing about sunset overdrive. Yeah, the locomotion in sunset overdrive was amazing. Yeah, like you get across the city without ever touching the ground. That wasn't bullshit. wall running and grinding and

gliding. Yeah, they definitely learned a few tricks I think they're bringing it over here. All right. So Marty, we have you on the show. Yeah. So obviously there's a lot of Marty questions. Big Mart! What? Josh Voight says, please ask him if you're still haunted by Battletoads. Yeah, everyone, I really don't like the

video game Battletoads. And I've expressed it several times. And then there was the Battletoad man at E3 last year. He was big and he was slimy. He was at the Microsoft booth looking at me. I didn't like that. I had to review Rare Replay and play Battletoads. I I didn't like that. Max always told people to scream battle toads at me at conventions.

I don't like that game. It's a bad game. The names are rash, pimple, and Zit, and Hurp. That's not, that's not good. No. Any of those names, Herp? There's probably a fourth one named Herpy. We named six people there.

That's gotta be some of the battles. I don't like that game. If you like that game, you have bad taste and things. That being said, Rare is a very good developer. It's true. Jason Hale says, what don't we get in the Duck Dynasty review? Yeah, that's been a while. Please do it is your final thing.

Whenever you're ready to move on from IG. That's the last thing you post. So I said I was going to beat all three Mass Effect games or I would quit. And I beat one. And I never, I'm not going to beat the other ones. And so instead of quitting, we sell on and I said we're going to stream all of Duck Dynasty and have it be my review. And then we got busy because we have jobs. Yeah.

A lot of goofy ideas that don't become reality. Yeah. We call those ideas never green. Yeah. We have ever green ideas and we have never green ideas that are amazing ideas that we will never do. Yeah. It all happens some point. And then the final,

Marty question, of course, there was a lot of questions about cardigans. But, you know, this is the games castor trying to be serious here.

I don't want a cardigan a little while. Yeah. I'm like this. I like this. I like this. You still running? You still working out of running.

Yeah. From the cops. Oh. 69. What? How about how about? Chris James says. Wait,

did I commit? It's like 69. It's illegal in San Francisco. In San Francisco, 69 is illegal. Dude, I see people take shits on Gehry walking to work and that's not illegal?

No, it is, but it's got to catch you. 69's illegal. What a world. Christy James says, does he still feel shame from the Phil look? So for some context, get us up to speed on what this question's about. So at GDC, we had head of Xbox, Phil Spencer, Amazing Man on our Xbox show unlocked. And I had to, like you, I was taking time codes, mostly for like, if he said something interesting, I took a time code so that Andrew and the news team could break it out. Because God forbid they did the job and just watch the fucking video. Well, it was GDC.

There was a lot. Everyone was busy developing game conferences and whatnot. It was also weird because it was the morning of the GDC Awards. So I was wearing a sport coat and a tie, which I usually don't do. Doctor. Yeah, I am a doctor. I've delivered several children. Jesus.

Yeah. You made more. I know. Thank you. Whoa. And so while he was talking, I was sitting next to him, I was writing down a time code. and something happened with my hand, and I still don't know what it is, and there's a close-up giff of it, no one understands what it is, but the pen just flew out of my hand off the table,

and I very quickly tried to, it was while he was talking, tried to grab it, and then realized it was too late, and I just sort of came back and was like, no, nothing happened. And Phil, who's this amazing, creative, very powerful men in video games, just looked at me pretty much like the most disappointed father ever of just like, what are you doing with your life? And I just tried to play it off. I was like, no, nothing, Papa Phil on. Everything's fine. Everything's fine.

And so that GIF will live on probably as my curse. Congrats, though. You did something. You made, you did the internet. I did the internet. That induct dynasty. Phil, I'll never forget you now.

No. You're always going to be the pen guy, the fidgeting pen guy. The penguin? Yeah. I guess. You're a part of the Penn 15 Club. Oh, that's penis, if you write it correctly. Oh, I like that.

I still can't believe 69 is illegal in this part of the city. It's crazy. It sucks. You know, we got to get Bill Spencer. the show just so we can give him a new nickname and call him Filthy Spence. I love Filthy Spence. Maybe we're gonna change his Twitter handle of that, huh?

Maybe. To P, was he P3? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He's good thing. Let's do it. Nolan Chase says,

what platforms do you think they're going to most likely release new Armored Core games? Fucking, so I know. Oh, I know this thing. Alana came back with the rules. Oh! That's from Larkarkis. It's from Softball. It's from Softwomen.

That is, this is pre- Fucking Dark Souls. Like, I love that studio. Mizakis, you're gonna, you're just fucking dabbling with robots. I want, I don't want a Dark Souls game ever again. I want an Armored game in the style of Souls. I want it to be a rogue-like to where every time you die, your mech is and your pilot has to come back to whatever the bonfire is and retrieve your

mech or it's like, fuck it, you got to build a new mech. Yeah, I want that, I want that, I want that PS4. I want that Xbox one. All right. I can't believe you didn't play. No, I did. I reviewed them, it turned out. Trevor Sarky said in the review where I'm just like, I don't know what I. You're a fucking robot and

you're fighting shit. It's okay. Yeah. That's so funny. Yeah. Oh, man, shout out to Armour Corps. Yeah. Chris Gilbert, do you think Yucaleli was a worthy successor to Badger? So we haven't had anybody on this show that really invested time into Yuka. I had to. You, you reviewed it. I legally had to. I mean, I don't know, it was legally. They take away your green card if you don't do it. I'm American. I was a little bit disappointed by it just in terms, I thought of the five levels, one them wasn't good. So a fifth of the game I did not enjoy. I thought it wasn't quite as precise as banjo games and the camera had a little bit of a problem. That being said, like I think this is a really solid building foundation for ukulele 2, which could fix a lot of those problems and could

do something really special. Do you think you actually get ukulele 2? I think it can do well on Switch when it comes out. Yeah, honestly, I do think it's a relatively small studio. And we sort of at that cusp of we had Ratchit and Link was amazing last year. And then we have Mario coming and Psychonauts to, like, I feel like there's sort of this return to form of 3D character platformers. So, yeah. There you go. He'll kick movie, friend of the show. We know them.

It says, please ask him about his writing process, specifically how he begins and how he overcomes writer's block. Thank you. It's a good question. I write mostly by hand, like in notebooks, especially like reviews or features. Like, if it's a new story, I just fucking write it and get it up there. But I write by hand, and I write at bar. and I don't worry about

I let it be train of thought I let it I jump around from piece to piece like if I'm writing a review and something else comes up or I overhear someone say something else I don't mind to turn the page and write a note of this person said this thing like this is interesting put this somewhere but mostly yeah I'm relatively lucky

in terms of just I've done this enough and I've been a writer professionally for six years but I went to school for creative writing and screenwriting so I've been doing this long enough to where I just I just get through it and I think you're always your own worst critic and so overthinking things I don't know if this is the same way with you but if you start overthinking something that is when you're gonna fuck up and slow down yeah

I think writing is locomotion it's getting through it's moving yeah that's the whole thing even if you don't like what yeah this isn't great it's getting to go to get something good again to come back with fresh eyes later to fix what's wrong and begin everything with it's hard to believe it's hard to believe it's been X year since X franchise last grace X platform yeah but now they're back. Yeah. Or Webster's Dictionary defines.

Those are two classics. Oldie but goodies. My favorite thing, and I'm throwing Craig Harris running through the bus. My favorite thing ever was when, yeah, we were talking about tropes

and he threw that out there of like, oh, well, as long as Craig had left IGN. Craig had done more than a thousand reviews at IGN, literally. I remember that being a big celebration. He had left and he threw it out there

just like, well, as long as you don't ever start your things with, yeah, it's hard to believe. And I went into the back end and Googled it and found like 10 reviews. started that way from me. He's like, I didn't say I didn't do it. Solitaire for Game Boy Color, 9.5. Oh, my God.

A minute ago, I complimented your shirt. Yeah. And then once I looked at it, I realized I own this shirt. So that is the most Tim you guys thing I could possibly do. I have it in a different color, though. Mine's more of a chambray. Ooh, that's my favorite Overwatch hero. Yeah.

You literally don't know what chambray is. Is that like blue? Yeah, it's like a light blue. If Tim's talking about a shirt he owns, it's, it's probably. kind of blue. It's going to be blue. All right. Bongo's for Kev.

Yeah. I want you two to talk about Life is Strange for a minute. Go. Man, Life is strange is awesome. I think Life is strange is, it's, it's, it's, reach extends its grasp. I love what it tries to do, but ultimately I think it feels like it is 40-year-old French people writing what they think 16 to 17-year-old American kids are like. You think the hella is used too much?

I think the hell is used too much. And like, I don't know if I could do any better because I don't hang out with teens that much. Sure. It's probably good. Probably a good thing. And all you do is hang out of bars. Yeah. And if teens are in the bars and my friends who are the bar chenders are not doing their job well.

That being said, like, I really hope there's life is strange too. Sure. And I really think that if life is stranger, death is strange. Yeah. And also, honestly, like, I think life is strange could do better now that 13 reasons why became such a huge thing. Sure. To me, it's sort of its TV analog is. I hear you.

I mean, life is strange definitely has its awkward moments. but I thought overall it just, it overcame them. Because that was my thing is when I started playing it episodically, I played episode one. And I was like, I don't really. And like, okay, the rewind was cool, whatever at the end when it really kicks in. You're like, all right, great. But then when it came back and I stayed off and I just played it back to back to back to back.

That's when I was like, oh, this was actually a lot of fun. There was things I didn't expect to happen and things that I did and learning these characters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shout to Chloe. Captain Barbosa says if Marty could choose any video game character to have as a drinking buddy, who would it be?

Sully, right? Hasby. Hell, fuck, yes. Good, I get those stories. God, the stories, yeah. Could you imagine the stories that Sully would tell me? That'd be fucking awesome.

Sully, I like the, I don't know if you've played enough persona to get to the drunk journalist, yeah. Yeah, so it's just like hot girl you could date who's this drunk journalist who you only meet at a bar and she's always shit-faced.

I think she'd be fun. She sounds like your dream. I'd like to sit at the bar and Catherine because the bartender teaches you a bunch of facts and turns out, oh, I guess I won't spoil Catherine. I think you're allowed to spoil Catherine.

Turns out he's the, actual devil. Oh shit. Yeah. It's kind of weird because you're like, I'm trying to fuck this blonde girl and there's also this other girl

and the blonde girl's his daughter. So that's weird. Yeah, well, he doesn't mind that's like the devil's deal. That's what he does. The devil's deal is. We all, yeah, remember like, you know,

Al Pacino. Yeah. In that movie of Keanu Reeves. Yeah, devil's advocate. Thank you very much. I could knock it to the name. He had similar things going on. They were both,

he wanted Keanu who was his son to fuck his daughter with the curly hair and make this super Satan or whatever it was. Super Satan? Yeah, super, super, Super Sion? There's a girl Super Siperson.

Very progressive. 2017. Shout out to Dragon Balls. Bros. 93 says, what's your favorite podcast or an episode that you've been a part of?

I was throwing it on the spot. Oh, like that I've actually been on it? Yeah. Oh, because I know like 30 podcasts that are better than any podcasts. Um,

so my favorite ones have probably been, I really liked Beyond 450 when we did a jackalope with, you, Colin, Max. Yeah. Brian and Graham. Andrew. I think the last two E3 ones have been really fun.

We did Beyond at E3 in Max or in Zach's Hotel. And then we did the pool side one at the fig two years back, which was a fucking disaster. I think your, and Collins' last Beyond was always super special to me. And I don't know, every time I go into the booth now for Beyond, I'm super fucking stoked about it.

I liked our PSI Love You, we did. It was just me and you. That was a good one. What about you? Do you think back at it like a single? It's kind of hard because we all said, Yeah, that's the thing right where it's a cheat code. Yeah, I always go I think beyond 300 is always a super special one for me because of that one I think we knew what we were doing more. Doesn't in the office. Yeah, both of yeah, beyond 200 and 300 in the office.

300 was not supposed to be, but yeah, the Kevin Smith gog. Yeah. That's a great one. That was like such a moment. Yeah. Yeah. Because I it was like the space between spaces where we had quit IGN, but we hadn't started kind of funny yet. And it was just like that five day period and we spent it going down to LA and then just got to hang out with Kevin Smith and essentially tell him, hey, this is what's happening. And he was so stoked for us. Yeah. Where it's like, whoa. Yeah. This is special. This is going to work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's Yeah. Yeah. There's hard. There's, there's, there's, there's, there's, because you end up doing it's so much at someone. If they're like, if they're like, what's your favorite meal. You're like, shit, I've had a lot of good meals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's all

things too. Then it starts feeling shitty of like trying to, you'll remember one later on. You know what I mean? Like, I remember the first PS. The first PSX, we did the last live beyond we would ever do. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. We knew it was our last one, but nobody else did. And that was like, I get choked up on it because I was trying to express it without expressing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was super cool because like that year PSX panels were super not attended because they were like way far away and we packed that room to stay in your movie. That was awesome. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Final question comes from Carrie AIM. Are you excited for Dark Siders 3? I am. I'm a big fan of Dark Siders 2 actually. I don't really care that much about Dark Siders 2. I don't like the aesthetic. I think it's that like sort of angry teenager butt rock thing that and I don't. I'm a big fan of darksiders too. And I don't really care. It's... Tron Chef. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, honestly, a little bit. But I think it's gameplay.

It's super solid. It's this awesome mix of God of Wars combat, Zelda's Dungeons, and, like, single-player World of Warcraft, just in terms of, like, the Norse mythology of the world and the quest system. And I totally trust the developers at Gunfire Games. We have a ton of shit on IGN. Actually, if you want to go see it. It was our IGN first for this month.

Alana went down there and saw and played a shit ton of it. I think Fury is a cool character. And Gunfire developed, probably my favorite. PSVR game right now, which is called Kronos. Oh, not PSVR. Sorry. It's only on Oculus. I really wish it was on PSVR. Do you think this one will do well? Because this is the conversation

we had where I was like, they announced this and on the morning show, I was like, well, here you go. It's your mirrors edge catalyst. It's the other games. It's the games that the vocal minority to their point, you're a fan of it. I get it. You want it, you want it, you want it, you want it. And then it comes out and it just doesn't perform. I don't know. Like, part of me is like, yeah, I don't know if it will perform. But that being said, if I just look at analytics, like each one of the videos

hit a million within like 12, 15 hours. And granted, they were exclusive. So like everyone was just likeing out to our YouTube channel. Like they fucking crushed immediately. Like in a way, most random trailers or gameplay drops. It's just an interesting one of like it's. And I was the other one. I had a better example than Mirz Edge because Mirz That's Casal wasn't good or whatever. But I understand the fact of like, yeah, there was another one too. That doesn't matter. Beyond and evil is one of those games that whenever it comes out, if it does come out, it can never live up to the hype. Yeah. And it's yeah, I don't know. That's just going to be interesting. because I just don't, there are people I know who enjoy Dark Siders, but there's not like, it's

rare to meet a darksiders fan of like, this is what I'm about. Yeah. I mean, it's a long ways out. This is, I'd probably year from now, I bet that's the next summer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. Well, Marty. Thank you very much for joining us. Where can people find you? Uh, you can find me. Uh, I'm on Twitter and Instagram at McBiggity with two Gs and two T's. Uh, and then like I mentioned a bunch, I do a ton of stuff at IG and I just got promoted. Hey, congratulations. Oh, okay. Congratulations. Oh. Whoa. Oh, look at that.

Yeah. So there's that. And then I'm unlocked and beyond, which is our Xbox and PlayStation shows. Bridging, I'm killing the council war. Bring them together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good job. I like that. All right. Well, thank you for joining us. Thank you so much. We want to have you back soon. Yeah. Because this is fun.

Yeah. We can talk about that 60-90ing stuff because I feel like we should. We got to get to the bottom of this. We should march on Washington. Depending on what type of person you are. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. Until next time, I love you.