Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Marvel's Wolverine Spoilercast - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

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It is weird. I were talking about this, you know, Friday off to BlizzCon and then, uh, you took an extra day to come back, obviously on Monday. It feels like we've been going on a long time. I think it's a stuff a Disneyland in there. We sure did. A Disneyland is like, that's a whole, that's a whole vacation. A Disneyland is, of course, celebrating Halloween season. They started in August. Of course, they want the money. So when, and I want the fun. So when Tim wanted to shit all over me on September 1st, I don't know why there's, I definitely did. And it's hilarious the amount of people that are on your side. It's so crazy to think that, like, I'm being egregious saying that Halloween should, at the most, be celebrated starting October 1st.

You said a week. I'm saying at most. I know. You said a week. That's where I think you piss a lot of people off. Oh, I mean, but I think the week is what it should be. You're psychopath. Here's the thing is, I think it's just that, like, I wouldn't be against what you're saying if we weren't in arms race with the Christmas people.

It's the fact that Christmas starts getting celebrated so early that I got it. Well, I'm going to... If the rules are broken, I'm going to do it. No, it's wild. Listen, I got good news for you, Tim. In about five to seven years, we're all going to be in a war for water, so it doesn't matter.

We'll be finding the AI just looking for fresh water, so you have to worry about Halloween much longer. Yeah, I don't know about that. Somehow, you'll find a way. I know that. And it's not that I'm against Halloween. I'm just against me. I mean...

Four-time champion back to back to back to back. I wonder why. If you're watching live, be part of the show by superchatting on YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. Remember we couldn't do this without our producers on patreon.com slash kind of funny. So thank you to a megabuster, Delaney, the song twining, and Michael pays avento. For now, though, let's start with the topic of the show.

Tats, Tots, Tots, Tats, Tots. We already got a super chat. It's off topic, but Josh Tater says, I got to ask Greg about his thoughts on the Mizzu game. Well, these tigers are looking good, aren't they? I want to know. They beat Kansas. It was a big deal. Kansas tried to get special with it, too, where they put up a whole video.

were like, hey, don't forget, they're racist. This whole, this whole rivalry starts because of the Civil War. And Missouri was like, whoa, what the fuck, man? Come on, that's not cool. Can you imagine? Can you imagine going to degrees and lengths that are just too far

when you're talking about sports? I mean, you don't like? Hundreds of years of stuff, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's crazy they didn't say, no, we're not racist. They just said, whoa, that's going too far. That's not good. Well, I think it wasn't even like you're racist.

It was like, remember they were a slave state. And they're like, whoa, we're not anymore. That's not what John Ham has to say, you know? John Hamm said we were slaves to say. I don't know. I want to know what John Hamm has to say. He says Zio, you usually in the commercial. I also want to know what you have to say about Wolverine, everybody.

This is our Wolverine spoiler cast. So if you have any questions about the story or the bosses or the characters or just any spoilery stuff for Wolverine, now is the time to super chat those questions, comments, concerns in. And Greg and I will talk about them to the best. of our abilities. This will be obviously full spoilers for Marvel's Wolverine on the PlayStation 5 by Insomniac Games. So if you do not want to be spoiled for that game, don't watch this yet.

Play the game. Come back. Listen to this. Check it out. Have some fun. Go do your thing, man. It'll always be here for you. This doesn't go bad.

This isn't milk. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. For you. Delightful Darren. Already super chat and saying, I'm enjoying Wolverine.

But this isn't as good as the Miles Morales game. I love the Miles game and story. It was 15 to 20 hours long. only $50. Yeah, I also did not enjoy this as much as I enjoyed Miles Morales. But Greg, there's a lot to talk about. This is a, there's a whole story that we didn't really get into. We didn't want to get into.

We didn't want to. Obviously, we talked about kind of our overall thoughts on the quality of it, but we didn't really get to talk about anything that happens. We didn't get to talk about any of the real character dynamics in any type of depth. We didn't really get to talk about the bosses that show up, the ones that we liked, the ones that we were a little on. Sure. I kind of want to start with you and the Sentinels

because your preview event, you only got to play the basic Sentinel's not done yet. Smash you down. Yeah, we're going to, yeah, right. The game has multiple Sentinel battles going through, whether it's the more humanoid-sized ones that you're facing off against Hordes of.

Or the one that sends us to Wolverine Heaven. The bigger ones, yeah. What do you think about the finished product now with the entire sentinel? experience from a boss fight encounter perspective. I don't think it did much for me. They definitely tuned the difficulty

of that first Sentinel battle. It went way faster than it did in my previous session. My previous session, and I don't think it was that I didn't know what I was doing. Maybe it was that allocation of skill points or something of that effect. But during that previous session, like, this is going on an egregiously long time, both in phase one and phase two outside with Mystique and

Sabretooth. So they got that to where I didn't have as, I, I It didn't feel as, oh, I'm doing this again, and it's taking this long, which was nice. Once the Sentinel's got introduced as humanoid size people, and you're like, that's weird. Like, we know what, and maybe I don't. Maybe I don't, actually. Maybe I don't. I feel like I know what a Sentinel should look like and how big it should be and how actual scary it should be.

And so when it's just like these Sentinel dudes, just normal sized Sentinel dudes. And of course, I want to know if this was your take on it too. Every time the game introduces like, whoa, here's. a new enemy type that's like, dude, that first fight with them always felt like it took a while. And like I actually had, and then every other time they showed up, they were just fodder and I ended up hanging them apart.

I mean, I think that's just because the game taught you how to beat them. And I think the game's very, I mean, like we've said, the combat is pretty simple in terms of almost rock, paper, scissors, where it's like,

they're not adding many more elements. They always had more hit points is basically what I mean, though, means would go on. There was, there's a lot more of those yellow parries. So that means you're like taking down a lot more health. If they hit you, it's more. But, you know, at that point, I think there were a little more. So anyways, normal size sentinels didn't do much for me. And then the big Sentinel at that point was fine. Again, like, I wish we had more of a shadow of the Colossus. Like I am, say, don't even give me the small ones. Bring out the big one. Here we did

it. Here's, I've realized Trask's vision. It's all, but now it's turning you into mutants. And now I am jumping on, finding weak spots. God, people are coming up knocking me off. I have to get thrown back up there, you know,

fastball special style to get whatever. Like, I could have gone for that. Yeah. I mean, like,

my problem is we will run through this as so few on the sticks moments and even story beats, but for this art conversation story ones, stick with me.

Where it really is like, I felt let down by every boss fight. Like, Omega Red wasn't like a lot of fun to fight. Like, I don't remember specific. I remember stanched

his fucking, his dreads out of his own. arms and yanking him a throne like you know what I mean like so even the big sentinel fight at the end I'm like I don't remember it being anything other than serviceable like everything else in this game in terms of combat yeah the citizen one at the end I think kind of set piece wise was what I expected and wanted from the fight so I feel like that kind of like gave me no no it gave you what I want from the big final battle thing right and especially when you had all the the sinister stuff around it and the smaller sentinels I mean that that that's classic X-men stuff like that's that's just how how this has to go and also classic and somers at game design where you just need the enemy types to level up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You take that all back to classic, like, arcade brawler design of, like, you get the, you know, the purple foot soldier, then you get the blue foot soldier, then you get,

we understand what that means in terms of HP and abilities and all that. But boss fight wise, Lady Death Strike in the middle of the game, I enjoyed quite a bit. I feel like some of the story beats there really, really worked for me. And then some of them overall, like the conclusion of it's with the helix thing, like killing her and all that. It felt a little bit convenient and rust for the plot that they were trying to tell overall. But I really liked

both the mechanics of that fight and how it kind of played with the hordes of hand. I think the hand as an enemy for Wolverine was by far the highlight for me of just generic grunts that you're facing off against. And them teleporting around and they're just cool. They look cool. The red's cool.

The areas they're in like everything about that Japan bit I think leveled the game. And that's what I'd like to, I'd rather flip the conversation a bit about, right? What does stand out to you from the Wolverine game? Like, when you go back to it, because for me, it is that start to Japan. I thought being on

the plane, getting thrown out of the plane, I'm clawing my way back into the plane, jeans throwing people around, the planes, like, I loved that. That is like, when I think back on this game and what I'm going to remember, I'm going to remember that, I think. Then also just, I liked being in

Tokyo. I liked what that looked like. Yeah, I guess for me, the thing I like most was the getting into the hands layer. Because I feel like the Tokyo, it was cool if a little underutilized, very overutilized. Lots of repeating NPCs, lots of like, okay, I can't do anything here. It's definitely the biggest area in the game, but I think it really kind of highlights just how hallway based the game is, which I don't think is inherently bad, but when

you do have a more open space like Japan and it is just a lot of the hallways next to each other, it is a little deceiving. I felt like there was going to be more things from you. need to be able to do. And in some ways, it's like, oh, you can crawl up this wall, but you can on this one. And it didn't feel as consistent as I would have liked because it did give me the impression that I was going to be doing much cooler things. There are set-piece moments where you're running on the rooftops and the big dinosaur thing.

You're like dodging it and stuff. And it is cool, but it is so on rails that like you can almost look around to the Japan from the floor and like see, oh, eventually I'm going to get there. But when you're down there, it looks like, oh, there's like, there's like, places to go. And again, I didn't need it to be more open, but it's presented open. And so that's the thing that was hard for me to kind of wrap my head around. But then once you get down into the lair in Japan that's for the hand, I loved going through those caverns and like kind of getting the story beats of what happened and why they're so upset with Wolverine. And like calling him the shinnigami,

like the god of death and kind of revealing over time that this lair is their tomb where in past lives, Wolverine has killed hundreds if not thousands of hand members. That is such a cool idea for somebody that we know that we're playing as that is just killing and ripping people up and can't remember his past to have his past involve being the god of death. The god of death. And especially as that plays into the apocalypse stuff later, which I think is obviously well-intentioned. I think very poorly done. but I think that the teases of it here of him being literally the embodiment of death to the hand against Lady Death Strike like all that stuff was really cool and I think the boss fight and that area

using the insomniac tech of the portals and like the fun I don't even know the best way to put it like what what is it's not universe jumping but it's just like complete different area jumpings where you're like you got like smashed off that thing and come all the way down here and different planes just totally different planes or it's like like from a video game perspective, very impressive technically, but then I also think it just adds a lot of fun and intrigue to what's going on here with the hands that are throwing down the smoke bombs and all that stuff. It just that section of the game was like such a highlight to me.

For sure. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Like I think that was all really cool. And even like when we got to the point where the hand gets introduced early on, which is from my demo, right? But was a breath of fresh air to go from the mechanical cyborg people to suddenly it was the hand. I enjoyed fighting them more, and I thought they were more interesting. I loved stabbing me with katanas and me yanking them out and then using them to attack people.

I thought it was better iconography ride of like I talked about of them. You know, Wolverines running, grabs a guy, two guys jump out, they stab him in the chest and we smash through the glass. We all come down. He gets impaled with the thing. That all worked really well for me in terms of like, that's cool. But it was that usual thing of like, I'm playing them like, I wish this was the game. Like I want your take because I know we haven't actually talked. We've talked in code about it here and there or whatever,

but I don't know your take on the overall story. And I personally feel like a more narrow story, a smaller story, a smaller scope could have gone so much further. Like I would have rather fleshed out more of this with the hand, more of being the Shimigami, right? Of like, this is what we're doing. Not to say, like, ignore other things or not have other threads.

But like, I just, like, from this jump, 30 years, 30 years ago, Wolverines this fair little guy British man starts talking to him Oh it's Nathaniel Essex Oh that's Mr. Sinister Okay he's a bad guy Like I'm not I'm not at no point did this game

Have me believing that Troy Baker Is going to be the good guy That we're going to turn this or going to go somewhere So I'm like I'm obviously going to fight So to get to the inevitable conclusion Of him just having the gem in his head And being in the cape and being in the outfit I was like that didn't feel earned

I didn't understand why we're doing that I mean I disagree with that Just because like I don't think it's a problem that we knew That he was bad for the beginning because I do think that if you don't know who Mr. Sinister is, the way the game presents it, I don't think people would think that he's bad

until they give you the story beats that show like when he, the way that he gets, he's trying to control Wolverine when Wolverine kills Tass and he's like, hey, that was mine to do, not you. Like those type of things and it's like, but we also see Xavier do things like that all the time. And we also haven't seen Charles Xavier well presented so far. Like the Patrick Stewart version is very different

than the comic and even animated series version of Xavier. And at this point, it's like, that's just as viable of an option and of a take of the character because we were talking about decades of movies at this point. But Mr. Sinister is still very much a, like, you need to know to know type thing, right? And connect the Essex to that. Like the movies haven't got into in a direct way, like the Essex Foundation or whatever was in Deadpool 2. But like, yeah, average people don't understand what that means. And X-Men 97, like, if you watch that, you fully understand.

but like if you didn't um but i similar to spider man with doc ock i think that there was more of uh are they really just gonna keep him a good guy here really but like that was that was more just for that game and then it when they had the whole sinister six and it's like well they're gonna do this and have auto turn that all felt so earned like that felt so good agree but spider man is a much better story than wolverine is um but i don't think that's because of the essex side of things here uh and I think that the, it's not that I was like, oh man, they nailed it. But like I was, I was with it the whole time. Like I liked, I loved Troy's performance.

Troy does. Yeah. As Essex. And I just think that overall like the, I was trying to put into words like where I'm at overall with the story of this game. Because I don't think it's bad at all. I just don't think it's that good. And I think it's interesting in ways, but I think in the ways that it's interesting, it kind of turned me off. It's like the best way I can put it is it's like a what if episode, but not one of my favorite ones.

And there's been a couple, in my opinion, bad what if episodes. I really love a lot of them. This is one that's just kind of in the middle. It's a story of a variant Wolverine in a totally different what if scenario and kind of the point of playing through the stories figuring out what's different from the things that I'm familiar with. And so when you're jumping off and starting with Essex, it's less to me a question of like, oh, is he really bad? Are they going to keep it that way? And it's more like, oh, they're using him to tell the story we're familiar with of Charles Xavier, taking in mutants and trying to, having the school, having a place for them to go,

having a place for them to feel safe and try to find other mutants to bring them in. But what does that mean? What's his real goal? What and how is he doing it? What's the means of the end and all of that? And I was very interested in this game in the early moments of it or hours of it of themselves. letting up the situation of having Essex trying to get this Helix thing to be able to find more mutants to be able to bring him into his school thing. Trask trying to use it to bring and find mutants to kill all the mutants.

And then the, well, we know because we know X-Men of, well, Charles Xavier would eventually use something like this with Cerebro to bring mutants in his way. And I like that idea of the triangle of they're all trying to do the same thing with very different end goals. Right? Yeah. The game doesn't get there, though. That's the problem. It doesn't ever introduce the Charles Xavier side at all. There's just no X-Men in this, period.

And I don't think that that means that this is bad, but I do think that's the thing that a lot of people were very interested in and the fact that they don't have it here at all and what they give us instead, I think that's kind of where things start to fall apart a bit, where they're clearly kind of hinting that they're building towards the team, the something, but this game and this world, world seems to be definitively a, not, but what if we just don't do X-Men?

Like, what if this Team X is the team that we have here? And this Gene Gray is not like the gene that you know. She's more a Phoenix that has lived many lives. And she's entwined with Wolverine over time, forever and ever. How are you going to introduce Cyclops to this dynamic? Is he going to be more like the Wolverine coming in that we're more used to? I don't think that's going to work. I'm not interested in that.

I mean, being not interested in it, I think, is like, the game is Achilles heel on how they do this. I know you and I don't agree on a lot of our criticisms of the story. But for me, it's just like everything happening here. And I understand, okay, cool. Like, they want to make the parallels. They want to do this thing. But to Professor X to the X men. To me, I just feel like that is such a swing and a miss idea.

And I understand wanting to do something different. But somebody's got to sit somebody down at some point and be like, Yo, we get best case scenario to do this once every five years. Like, let's not go crazy here and just let's give people what they want. It was so playing the game, I was so like, man, are we really rolling with in this, I'm sorry to other X-Men. Again, I'm such a mainstream Marvel person, right? I'm not deep in the weeds like I'm with DC.

This felt such like a C-list cast of just like, and the team's got Mystique and Sabreto. I'm like, well, I hate Svath, and I know Mystique usually ends up being bad, but also Catwoman kind of, you know, anti-hero or whatever. Essex is here. And then when it was the, have we met before? I've heard that before. I started going, oh, shit, this is what they're doing.

This is all happening in some kind of mental fugue state. There's clones involved. I thought it was clones. The X-Men exist. The X-Men exists, and we are going to get a breakthrough where Professor X punches. And I was like, that would have been awesome to sell us on a game. that is, no, no, no, you're doing this whole thing, and this is Team X, which is so, I know the X-Gene, but so close to X-Men, sounds like a fucking knockoff, like, you know what I mean? It sounds like

if, it's not like you go to buy the X-Men toy in, like, Chinatown, you get the Team X toy instead. Yeah. I was like, oh, we're going to do a crack through the wall, and it's finally going to make sense of the bright yellow costumes and the, it's going to, oh, man, we've been, and then, no, instead we get the, she's a Phoenix. She's, she's, she's, she'll rise. I'm like, that's, that's, what we're doing, just that the Phoenix, Gene Gray dies and reset, like when Wolverines, when I'm doing all these fucking nightmare cabins,

I'm looking for her, I thought I saw her, this, that her. I was like, oh, I'm playing it. I'm like, what? Is it the girlfriend when he was in Japan? Is it this? And then to get the end, it's like, oh, it was Phoenix every time. Every time, it's Phoenix. It becomes Gene Gray. And it's like, okay, that's a take. You know, that I get what you're trying to do there. But yeah,

I'm with you. What you're saying right now goes to a bigger concern I have with the MCU. I know a lot of people are disillusioned with it and that totally makes sense. But the amount of people that are like, the amount of the same people that are just kind of like that hate the MCU right now or are just like over it

that think that the X-Men is going to save it. I'm like, oh man, y'all are setting yourselves up for disappointment. I feel like no matter what happens, no matter how authentic they are to whatever vision they have in their head, it's either just going to be like, oh, we've seen this before, or it's going to be, oh, it's too many twists, too many steps away. Like, I don't think X-Men's going to be the magical bullets that's going to fix everything. Like, I think even X-Men 97, which came out and was like kind of just unanimously loved,

then season two kind of like towards the end of it, it's like, oh, shit, well, it's no longer this like bastion of hope of, oh, they still got it. So we'll see. But I have my trepidations. I think we should be trepidations about everything, right? And when we're doing any of these things in nostalgia farming and yada, yada, My thing with the movies would be We're already in spoilers

But I'm assuming you're up to date on Spider-Man Brand New Day everybody we're all we all saw the movie We all saw the movie right like Even that interpretation of Gene Like I don't think we need to rush to them being in the bright Colored Spandex matching suits I think there's a lot of fun to be had with what this Xavier is and where we're going with it and

Giving you those touchstones on characters you care about That's my problem with the Wolverine game Is that it's like I don't care about Sabretooth. No, no, no, hold on. Just hear me out. I don't care about Sabretooth. I don't care about Mystique.

I don't care about Tiger. I don't care about Walter. I care about the X-Men. Nightcrawler. I mean, anybody who's like a main person, right? I mean, give me cyborg, give me rogue, give me game, give me nightcrawler. Don't just give me cards and Remi LaBoe things and Mess.

Walter, I don't care. Who the, you know what I mean? It's like, give me fucking beast. Like, you know what I mean? Like, again, everybody feels like they're a fucking, we couldn't get that guy so we got that guy and I understand that these guys

exist in the universe I'm not trying to say but it's just like it's just not a compelling thing of like okay what am I doing here back to the auto thing like Mr. Sinister

I never believed was not gonna be sinister in this game Otto Octavius I did think for a second they might swerve me and then when they didn't and he became Doc Doc Ock you're like

oh man that was great and then it pays off even more when it's like you knew like you knew this because it that was the holy shit i didn't think you knew yeah mr sinner just being a fucking bad guys like yeah no shit no definitely and then that that's the thing is like the with all of the hints that oh there's a past of jean and and logan to some extent and with sinister being so

involved in at that point in the story and we start hearing that stuff it very much is like all right well sinister is puppeteering this like he's way more involved than even we as the audience understands at this point and then by the end of the game you realize yeah the entire thing has been through the 30 years he's been fucking with Wolverine's memories to make him think certain things happened in the past that didn't and kind of forcing him to relive

killing Phoenix over and over and over like breaking himself there's something interesting there but it gets so convoluted so quickly once they start actually like answering the questions and then they introduce apocalypse on top of it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is just like

all right, Apocalypse and Phoenix have obviously some type of past history going on. But I don't think that they did a good job like making that clear. And it's clear sequel set up, right? Of course. I mean, literally the post-credit scene of this being Sabretooth

coming back from the dead, just like every character in this game does. Except related Death Strike, but she always could at any point. Going up to apocalypse and it's like you know, the age of death is over. Now it's time for the age of war. And it's like, all right. I don't

know that we ever see that. We will never see that. And it's just like it is, it's weird because it does, that's where I would have imagined they're setting up X-Men. But the, not post-credits, but like kind of ending scene of Gene and Wolverine talking and then what you named Calypso. Yeah. That whole setup, it's like, oh, this Team X kind of just feels like the version of X-Men in this world, which I don't think is the right call. like I'm with you of just like you know this group but that's what you get when you do are telling stories about

the early days of mutants and it's like this game is kind of the mutant outbreak this is the launch pad yeah this is the launch pad yeah yeah yeah I'm a little all over the place now but just like I want to jump to this because it is something that I really love is the idea of dormant mutants I love the scene where mystique realizes that there's so few for them out there it's like they they see the like almost

cerebral type thing of like how many mutants are out there in the world. I'm like, dude, this is such a cool thing. And having Walter just be like, I got a dormant gene and me. Like, I know I'm one of you. I'm one of you. It's like that stuff is so interesting.

But then I feel like the Helix stuff so quickly becoming the McGuffin that binds them, allows them to become mutants. And then Sentinels being introduced as a thing that kills mutants, but then now are things that are using it for good to make humans. And I'm like, wow. We just jumped way too far, way too fast. Like I feel like just sitting in the story of like dormant mutants,

I think is so much more interesting than sentinel laser beams that are turning people, either killing them or turning them into mutants that were, but just were dormant. But yeah, I don't know. It's this push and pull thing of like one of the things is we've seen people critiquing in lots of conversation about this game, our critiques and, you know, conversations included. it's just like, what is the game?

What are we doing with this Wolverine game? Is it a big action blockbuster? Is it a launch pad for just a new IP? I can't stop in even the conversations we're having. And I know I already brought up a bit with the hand, but like if we could have just contracted this, made it a bit more, it is Logan's story and we're with him through these things.

And it's just not, it's what we're going to talk about the MCU movies, right? If not everything needs to be a world ending event. And I know this wasn't, but it was a world redefining event, and it was, you know, Sentinels destroying things, and when we come back from the dead,

time has passed, how much time is Logan's trying to figure out, but like, sticks taking on a new identity sheet and soup in a cave. Everybody's where, you know what I mean? It's like,

like, can we have kept this a little smaller and a little more emotionally, you know what I mean? Like, when you bring in someone like Troy and Liam, right, and like let them act,

let them do it, let them have these conversations because I do think, like, when I think back to the X-Men movies, right? Like, what do you, I mean, everything is something different to some degree. But I think of, like, Magneto and Charles, right?

I think of, you know, Charles and Logan. I think about this character, I think of the movie Logan in general, right? Of like, let's give you a actual, hey, we are here feeling our feelings. It doesn't need to be Spider-Man web-slinging non-stop action, right? Whereas this one is you walk into Japan and I'm expecting to be able to go to the top of these buildings and do all these different things. You can these very specific places. Like, well, fucking don't do.

that then give me boots on the ground wolverine as we go through and do this don't give me so many monster closets of robot men to tear apart and i do think another highlight to your point is those smaller more character moments where we're uh in madripor and you go to tiger's bar and are able to kind of understand the relationship between mystic and tiger and get to no saber tooth and your past tour you know but like that walking and even walter it's just like i liked that stuff and that that that's the you know the playstation studios branded walk and talky stuff. Like I really like it when it's done right.

And I think that this was an example of it done right. I think there's a lot of examples of it in this game that aren't. Like I think that going around Essex's mansion in the beginning is like maybe one of the worst of them I've ever had to do where you're just kind of seeing like the memories of the mutants and stuff. I was like, I'm moving way too slow and this is not that interesting checking out everyone's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in Madrepoor, I was like, this is that good stuff. Like this is what, it reminds me of you. talking about those moments. It's Bobby Drake freezing the...

Making the beer. You know? For Wolverine and X-Men 1, I think it was. Like, yeah, it's those little things are like, oh yeah, this is the world where there's... Mutant school. And it's cool, man. Yeah. Do you have any beer? This is a school. No, I agree. To a degree. Stick with me. I hit or miss blah. What you're talking about overall, Magiapoor Bar? Yes, thumbs up. I did not like the Walter segment of getting the music and getting the thing. and they weren't real, but notwithstanding, yes. And it was the same thing of the Gene Gray mission where I'm patched and were in the bar or the casino undercover.

Playing those, again, made me long for, man, I wish insomnia could take him more time to slow this down the right way and have it be rather than just monster closet after monster closet, thing to kill after thing to kill, cut scene with Essex fucking warping in and out. Just fucking be here or don't be here, Essex. Why are you in and out all the time? Like I would have rather had these character moments.

Even the Gene Gray right before Leach gets killed, right, when they're in the cabin sharing the whiskey or whatever. Like, I was like, I don't think you guys have chemistry, but I appreciate just being humans and talking. Like, I feel like some of it kind of pales in comparison to the other PlayStation studios that have done it just because of the, I don't know, quality gravitas, whatever of it is. But I would have gone for more of that than what we got in. this game. Again, like, you know, I'm watching my TikTok, or I'm sorry, my Instagram reels are filled with, you know, the people doing the thing right now of he's on the motorcycle and they take their hands off the controller and he just bumps into the wall and comes

over here and bumps and it just drives itself. And it's like, that sucks. I understand. That's so many games, man. I know, I know, but I would, I mean, like, if we're going to, if you're trying to do a giant actiony moment, just making a cutscene than making me drive around and whatever, I'd rather just be the cutscene to do it and then give me the fun thing of talking to people and doing the, let the gameplay be fun.

You know, the stackups of that are the 2009 Wolverine versus this Wolverine and doing the same moves except in 2009, your arms are getting lopped off and heads are going everywhere. That does look cooler than what I did here is like corkscrewed into a wall, two, three times trying to take on this man. I want to keep talking about spoilers after a quick word from our sponsors. Come one, come all. Step into a world of wonder full of laughs and sweetness.

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And his ice turned purple. X. HXC. Jedi says this feels like a Zach Snyder Wolverine script. In moments I can see that, like I think that towards the end, the mythology of it all and like bringing in the apocalypse and how heady it gets with the I've been torturing you through time stuff. It's like, yeah, it kind of gets there. but leading into it, it doesn't feel that way. It kind of feels like, I'd say fairly run-of-the-mill X-Men storytelling with Wolverine as the focus, something we've seen so many times before.

But yeah, I don't think it, like, has the, the, like, self-importance or gravitas that Zach Snyder movies do, from the script perspective, at least. And when I look at the characters of Wolverine and Savor-Tooth and Mystique and. I mean, almost everybody, it's like, none of them act the way you expect them to based on the characters that they are. Like, these are, they're all kind of new takes, especially gene. Like this is a very, very, very different gene that.

You like it at all? I mean, no, I don't. Like, and I think a lot of that comes down to my, and I've said this forever with these Insomniac games. And I love Insomiac games, specifically the Spider-Man games. The looks of the characters, I don't dig. And I, there's something about it. It doesn't sit right. with me and a lot of the art direction of the i'm not telling even about their faces and stuff i'm

talking about like their outfits and their colors and the the looks of it all it's just it's not my cup of tea and i think that wolverine and the supporting characters are one of the bigger examples of that so far and i think jean is a standout for me of that of just like i'm not interested in this gene as a character or this gene in how she's lightly representing the jean versions that I do know when we're at the party and she's wearing the Marvel girl inspired outfit. It takes me out of it a bit because it's like you've kind of alluded to this in the review and even today talked about a bit about it. But they give reasons for why they're in the suits.

But why these suits? These suits feel so X-Men. These suits feel so we are a United Good Guy team that like Wolverine wearing the bright yellow and even the entire Team X-Team kind of having like hints of it. I have to ask why, you know? Yeah. And when, when Marvel girl shows up or when she shows up looking like Marvel girl,

it's like that's a nod, a wink, wink, but it's distracting to me because it does remind me of what we're not getting. Yeah. I mean, I, you know,

I was going back to when we were getting ready for this and because there was a conversation where maybe we just recap the game like in review. And so I was brushing up and I'm looking at screenshots on the, you know, the IG and walk through whatever of it. And it's just like, I think he, looks so good in that stealth suit.

And I think that's one of those things of that makes sense for what Team X is. Nobody knows mutants exist. So we are dressing in black. We're secret agents. We're going in and doing these kind of things. And then Walter would be like, hey, we've got a bright yellow suit with these weird wings on your face. Like, why would we do it that way?

It's weird. It's very weird. I played that black suit all the way up until I got X-Force, which is the black suit in the game. I really like the insomniac Wolverine suit. But I just storywise. In pictures? Yeah.

When I was playing it, I was just like, this just doesn't fit. Storywise for this character. And yeah, we talked about the character of Logan and Wolverine and how like in this game, he's just a nice guy. Yeah. And it's, again, it's a take. I think they commit to the take. It's like they, I do think that there is an arc that he goes through.

And I think that there are moments like specifically in Japan. There's a moment between him and Gene where it's him by being like, we got to save Walter. Yeah. We got to save him. You know, and she's presenting a counterpoint of just like, no, we need to the reason. Like we need to do like this. Like, you know, it's the classic railroad thing of like, who do you save, right? Yeah.

But like I really thought that, oh, they've built this Wolverine up. Not how I expected. Not what I quote unquote want from Wolverine. Yeah. But the Wolverine they're building here. I do. You believe in his motivation. Believe in this character's motivations.

It's just, yeah, at the end of the day, I'm like, I don't know that that makes sense for a Wolverine. And yeah, then when you have the. relationship that two of these have that they there's no ifs, or buts about it. They're destined to love each other like over time throughout deaths like over and over and over and it's like well okay. That is something that like I didn't believe it. I don't think that they earned that. That past I think explains why Logan's the way he is. Like why he is

this nice guy and like cares and all that stuff. He knows love. Because he knows love. Yeah. You know like that again they did that that story was told. I just don't know if that story is satisfying. But here's my thing is like, they tell the story and I understand that we get there and stuff. Then at the end, he gets his mind wiped again by Essex, right? He gets his mind wiping again by Mr. Sinister. And then he does the Gamora Guardians three. Like, I still got to go find out about myself.

I understand he's hit the reset button. He's a brand new person. I still don't. I just feel like this puppy dog, I got to save Walter. I got to do this. I feel like you'd be like, hey, sit down for our, every life we've been together, we've done it.

Maybe. Why don't you just chill out? You're going to love me by the end of the week. And I really believe you'd be like, all right, Red. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that's how he's presented. He hasn't presented as again, a tortured soul that's doing this. Yeah.

That is so true. It's like when he walks in him, it's like, I don't, okay. You know, sure. Yeah. And then let's get to work, she says. You know what I mean? Like, all right. Good, good on you, Calipso and you, Gene.

Yeah. We will not see this. We will not see this go anywhere. I don't think we will. Kabab says I love Wolverine when doing guides to the reviews have been rough for me because I disagree with almost everything foreign territory for me. Yeah. I mean,

clearly like there's dissension on this one, which like I'm not surprised by. I was saying this like to you when we were in the review cycle. I was just like I can't wait to see what the general audience has to say. Yeah, yeah. Like it's going to be very interesting and interesting it's been. You know, I think there takes every which way. and I'm like, all right, cool.

I think that's the thing about it, too, that I don't want to get lost in the sauce, at least how much I'm talking about. I wish it was more traditional, right? I love the idea of taking something and doing something different, but I want to see you take and do something different and do it well. And I just don't feel like any of the ideas they present here are fleshed out well enough to make me go,

damn, I don't care that that's totally different, right? Like, Snyder came up earlier, but like, as I've said many a time, right, the Zach Snyder DCEU that became the entire DCEU was never what I wanted from a DC cinematic universe but I was down to see where it was going until it got

that WB's like these movies suck and like it's about a movie and a half but it doesn't matter right and it's like cool go ahead and make it really weird and Superman doesn't save Metropolis I guess but like let's see do something interesting keep me engaged and like this game just never did that

yeah I mean you're being that up, I would say like the story of this, again, it does, it does not impress me. I do not love it. I said this in the review. I don't recommend people go out and play this. I also don't recommend you don't play it. I don't. To me, it's like we're not, our reviews that we gave, we're not saying it's bad. We're also not saying it's good. We're saying it's okay. Fine. I said mediocre. Cool. That's all of that does not mean like, do not play this game, right? Yeah. And I think that there is a lot of enjoyment to be. I enjoyed playing this game at many points. Like it's, I just didn't love the game. I didn't love the game. I didn't love the story and there's a lot of reasons why that we've been explaining, right? Whether it is story beats

that didn't sit well with us, twists that didn't work for us, pacing that didn't work for us. It's like there's just a lot of that stuff and that the story and gameplay as well. I was thinking about the story of this and I think that overall it works. It's just similar to a what if episode to me that I'm like, all it's a variance and the fun of it is finding out what's difference and how they all make it make sense. And if this is a universe and character, I want to see show up and other things. And at the end of the day, that end point, it's not. Like, I think of characters we did get from what if that I'm excited to see them pop up in other places. When we get, we've had a dozen Spider-Man cartoons.

Yeah. I don't want, I don't care about every Spider-Man. Sure. And I've watched most of those cartoons. There are standout ones that I'm like, I loved this version. I loved this version. And it's like, this Wolverine as a character, I'm cool with. I think it was an interesting take.

I don't need him to show up in Wolverine into the Wolverine, you know, I would not be clamoring for that. And it's because I just don't think that this game was strong enough to make me believe at him in the way that I see Insomniac Spider-Man show up and into the Spider-verse. And it's like, yes, yes, we know that Peter and we love that Peter. So I think that it's a story that works. It doesn't blow my skirt up. And I think that the story is better than a handful of X-Men movie stories, you know?

Like, I wouldn't go as far as saying over half of them. But like I would have to think about it, right? Like I think it's somewhere in that pack. So, I mean, it's one of those, you know, I was the lowest on the scale with a 5-5 mediocre on ours. And I would recommend you don't play it. I would not, you know what I mean? Like it's, again, not bad. I just think that in the season we're in, we're littered with $70 games, all these different things.

Like, I just don't think this is something you need to play. And as we keep going like, oh, we're not going to see that followed up. I'm like, I'm more worried about seeing Wolverine pop up in Spider-Man 3. like you know what I mean like I'm just keep keep all that over there we don't need this I don't think worked out let's not really bring it in and maybe he'd be fine in a punisher kind of situation where he's just in there doing his thing and maybe

that would make sense to see here I am in my red and blue spidey suit and there's this bright yellow Wolverine and we're doing something but again it would also feel very not because he's gonna get introduced it's not gonna know who he is and what's going on here and what are we doing like I mean it is crazy to just think about how much theorizing we've

had over the last five years since this game's been announced of how much insomniac world are we going to get here? How much building an X-Men world are we going to get there? And the answer is, in any clear way, zero. There's a lot of Easter eggs. There's a daily bugle. There's like, yes, it is in the world. But it's like, oh, wow, they really put their foot down and we're like, no, we're going to tell us a singular story. It's going to be this. It's going to be its own thing. And like, good on them, but I don't think that worked out. And so it's like, yeah. I think it was a very safe call. That way, if something like this happened, it's contained. Because I think.

what you get in Spider-Man 3 is probably the Green Goblin storyline right to some degree or whatever, and I bet we do get a as Peter is very talkative, you know, some kind of conversation of, man, mutant rights protests really are pop, you know what I mean? They're like, there's like a daily bugle headline about mutants revealed or whatever.

I don't think it's, yeah, we're into the I do. That's much more. Aaron Lime says a lot of people are treating reviews that this game is awful when it's just fine, but unfortunately as someone who was excited, I get the broader upset. I didn't want just fine out of insomniac. Context matters. Exactly. Me giving this game of 6.5 says a lot.

It's not what we expected. And that's the long and short of it. Sylvaj Hawkins says, Gregor, Tim, please give a full story and review recap style, please and thank you. Yeah, it's like, I mean, really, it's fairly simple. When I was looking at the thing, I was like, damn, that is crazy, right? Essex gets captured. Wolverine comes back to the, well, the 30-year thing we already talked about. Essex gets captured by Trask, meaning Wolverine has to come back into the fray after three years out on his own.

Sabretooth is pissed off about it because he loves his little brother but he doesn't know how to say it because he's a big tough man so they go and get him and he jumps out of the helicopter and then they fight their way there and they get him

and they cut off his collar and then they get out of there for a second but they don't Omega Red gets him and then they fight Omega Red and then we get him out of there and we do the thing we go back to the Essex Foundation and again

fuck Sabretooth you stupid piece of shit like why are you tipping over fridges like you can't be that I know it's a stupid thing to be hung up on but like for my entire life Sabertooth you

is a bad guy. And then we get here and it's like he's acting like an asshole bad guy. Like, why would I, why would Essex keep him around? There's a million other people that could be strong. And I know there aren't. There's actually a few mutants, but like, whatever. We got Wolverine. Maybe we didn't bring this assholes. Because Sabretooth, like, pissing on pillows. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, why are we hanging out with this guy? Why is this guy? Anyways, anyway. So we do that for a while. And then, yeah, from there, we get the call about Gene Gray. There's a thing going on. We're going to go after Tracks. We go over there. He's got a group full of mutants.

We open that fucking thing up. Guess what? There it is. Then Gene Gray shows up and Leach is there. He'll phone home. You know what I mean? It's bothered me. Deborah Wilson's there too, Colisto.

Uh-huh. How much Deborah Wilson was cut from this game? You don't put her in there and have this little of Deborah Wilson, I feel. I digress. I mean, in terms of talking and you're doing things. She's Amanda Waller. Put some respect on the name. Fall in order and all that just.

So we get them out of there. We bring everybody back to the Essex House. Yay, we're all going to hang out here. and Wolverine's like, it's pretty fucking crowded after he does a fucking Easter egg hunt to try to find Leach Wolverine. I should go to the Super Bowl. I should go Leach for Halloween. Please do.

Anyways, they go to the cabin, then they drink some whiskey, and then there's a thing. Oh, no, Trask found it. He just fucking nukes this place, kills Leach. Ah, he's wrong mad about it. So now we go after Trask again. This is where we fight the Sentinel eventually. This is where Trask thinks he's got it all at handle. He's like, oh, blah, blah, blah.

And then fucking Essex shows up and just yanks him through the floor of the thing, which was cool. and brings him over and this starts breaking his arms and spinning him around. I'll pause you just because a couple cool things. I love that. It's like I was really into, and it's a classic thing with X-Men stories, but this X-Men not existing here yet, so we're not expecting heroes to come in and save the day.

I liked the setup of what Trask was doing, of building the Sentinels, and early on you get into this place that's clearly like a test ground. Oh, yeah, and all the dead bodies. There's a bunch of dead bodies, and they're testing like how to identify mutants, how to kill mutants and how to inhibit them with these callers.

That shit's cool as hell. And I feel like it had a pretty sick setup to then get to this point where, yeah, they leave and all them off. When we were in that original thing in like the test facility and like we saw like, oh man, this guy got it off and let his ice powers out of the guy. Yeah. That's a good reference. Rather than a fucking card that says, oh, I owe you one, Remi Lebo.

What's the 30 year thing that you started with? So it starts 30 years ago and it's Wolverine. feral, like out in a forest, and Trask comes up, or not Trask, sorry, Essex comes up to him with his British accent, is like, I think I could help you, friend. Okay, God, I think. But it turns out later, Kevin, that he put him in that state.

Oh, no. Yeah. So all that happens, then we get out of there. Yeah, this is where we go to Magipore. You get all the stuff you like. I like a lot of it, too. Again, I would just wanted more of this,

the would you rather, let's get to know each other. Let's have, like, personal connections to people other than, like, whatever. There's the great line earlier on, Mystique's like, you missed my wedding. And they're like, that's good. I like that. Like, just the way.

Great performance by Kelly Hugh as, Tiger as well, which is fun. Do you know who she is? She's Death Strike from X2. Oh, okay. That's fun. That is fun. I like that.

And I liked her. Yeah, she did good. Yeah. I mean, it's always a little like goofy, but it's like, whatever. It's just like, you get to this reveal of like when she's, Mystique's like, I did all this for you.

It's like, who would do this who would do this to Gia to Jen to do this like I'm going to kill a lot of people to save your life you'll love that right like nobody's going to be cool with that for the most part we don't know what it's like to be a mutant you don't I don't you know what I mean

anyways Madgepore then you Walter gets stolen by the hand Wolverine chases him he gets impaled yada yada yada this is when they get away Gene Gray's there with Wolverine and it's like okay cool we're going to Japan this is where we get the cool we're going to Japan this is where we get the cool plane sequence of flying there.

We crash the thing. We get in the hand. He's the Shimmogami. We get a gami. Shinigami. Yes. And then they're running around in the fucking, the helix engine, but it's just a casket. We got that thing going on. Lady Death Strikes there.

I'm probably, oh, yeah, we're here a long time. So a lot goes on. There's a lot of fighting. A lot of hair people. And there's a lot of reveals of like, all right, Walter's here. And Walter's working with them. working with them and it's like oh shit it's like well Walter's dead set again this damn

helix thing now he just wants to be a mutant so bad he doesn't know what he's going to turn into I don't think he would it's like Nick with his tall guy machine and he turns to the fucking Sasquatch that's what Nick would do too yeah you know I do not want Nick's X gene to be activated oh my god no he'd be so hairy he'd get fins

uh anyways yeah then we braw for a while like you said we get into the hand facility the you know their tomb or whatever they got lava down there they got the engine down there we fight we fight we fight we fight we fight we uh do the thing lady death strike we we we almost we burn here yeah we burn real good

we get burned real good but we get out of it okay uh and then that's done a lot of moments in this game of wolverine like getting really fucked up because they're just like oh he heals and they from the jump they show that and a couple cool gameplay mechanics of that like the the last stand or whatever yeah yeah that is that is cool um but we get early earlier than this in the plot but we get him kind of doing the Metal Gear Solid Macroix. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, wow, we're doing this really early.

And it just gameplay-wise, I was like, I'm not feeling anything. Remember how we felt in Metal Gear Solid for the microwave? You jump at the gun on this a bit. And, like, I think that I was very let down by that early on. And then they kept having more and more of those moments as the game went on, that up the ante a bit, like, even with him burning and stuff. And I'm like, I appreciate that they tried here. But I don't think that they hit it.

I don't think that any of the moments made me feel. And granted, we're talking about one of my favorite video game story. beats of all time with the Metal Gear stuff. Yeah, but I'm immediately comparing it to that. And I do think that a lot of the disappointment in this game comes from direct comparisons as I'm playing it. I'm thinking about something else that did the thing I'm doing or what is presenting to me better.

We beat Lady Death Strike. Essex shows up. Sabretooth, we chop his arm off. We get pulled out by Gene. Sabretooth gets shoved into the Helix engine to heal here and become super psychotic or whatever. this is the here we go you know Essex is bad we go back

to the who's the guy who has a he's got a high-rise apartment yeah this guy there's this mutant we all know really well love we're super stoked to see him uh he we didn't know Mr. Negative until we got Mr. negative they like they can and should

do this better than they did thank you that's all I'm saying again I let's all be a thousand percent clear Greg Miller's not saying it needs to be a list every time but if you're going to introduce somebody, you gotta make me give a fuck about them. And remember their fucking name. And when they suit up,

have me look at them and go, wow, that's cool. Instead of me, look at this guy, be like, does he have a fire, legs? Is he flying around the fire legs? Sunfire. Sunfire. Our favorite. Anyways, we go back there. We do the whole thing. We're speeding towards the

end here. This is where we go make the assaults. We go back where we're, yeah, we go back to Magipur because that's where the whole thing's going on because we go there. We run into, there he is. That's the guy. That's our guy, Kev.

Anyways, we go back there, and that's where we go to Tiger, and she's pissed off because they're getting ready to set the thing off. And then Mystique we saw, and that was happening, and then Mystique and Tiger have their conversation,

and they're getting ready to do the whole thing, and the Sentinels are there, and there's Sentinels to take over the whole thing, and there's a big Sentinel, and that Sentinel sends us, I'm just jumping at. I'm sorry. They send it Wolverine to Wolverine Heaven

slash hell, where that's where we all have it revealed of yeah, we've been doing this forever and fucking going on, the phoenixes, we've been following Gene. Definitely the moment. As this is happening,

I'm like, are they fucking cooking? Are they fucking cook? And they're not. They're not. No, no, no. I, when we started, like, going through the memories and going back to the cabins and stuff,

I'm like, what are they doing here? This is so cool. And, yeah, I did not like the reveal. I skipped my part. That's why I was, I was like, what did I miss? I'm missing the Japan part, the patch.

Oh, we talk so much about it. I already skipped it in my head. We come out of Wolverine heaven. We're like underneath ground or shit and all that. So we got to heal up and then we come out. We're shirtless. It's a big deal. I tried to put on a different suit right away.

They're like, no, no, you ought to stay shirtless here. I was like, oh, cool. Okay, cool. We go through and we fight the things. Apocalypse had talked to us, as you said. You know, we fight Sabretooth one last time. He's got the glowing eyes. We throw him off a thing.

I'm sure he's dead forever. We go over there. Then we got to go stop this guy. Everybody's getting shot. They're either becoming mutants or just. becoming dust or whatever. That was cool. You know, Mystique, of course, pissed off.

She's living to some guy eating soup. Soup girl we call her. She gets mad at Logan though. She kicks him out. Then, yeah, we catch up to Red. And then we go and have the, we go to fight Essex. I'm just going to jump there. He's fucking full out Mr. Sinister now.

In the suit, gemming his head, everything else. And I'll say it. I do not like the art design. I don't like the costume design for a lot of the insomniac characters. And I want to. clear. I love the main character. Spider-Man suit, Wolverine suit, love. No, no, no. I fucking love

them. White Spider, I fucking love it. Like, I am a huge fan. You take the mask off and I think we start getting a lot more problems, just like the look kind of doesn't sit right with me, especially after the recast. But it is a lot of the side characters or enemies and stuff, sometimes I'm like, oh man, like I

didn't like that take on the original Insomniac versions. I love Sinishers outfit here. I love the flowy cape thing with like all the cutouts. Like, this is sick as hell. It's just being straight up Troy Baker, but like white was a choice. I don't really get it,

but like I also don't know that I don't like it. I think is, so Troy Baker is just being white Mr. Sinister. I'm fine with. You know what I mean? Like I don't care. I think they're going for that realistic look,

even though Wolverine's face isn't exactly Liam's. It's enough that I see Liam in there. I'm like, yeah, exactly, whatever. it was just this this the criticism of this game has been in both our review and across the internet right

is that it feels like a bygone era comic booky game where things just happen to make them happen and so to get to this final confrontation and bust in the suit looks dope

he looks cool this way I think but it's just such a you've been in vests in shirts and ties this entire game to be here right now like that

what the fuck just happened. What did I miss when I was in Wolverine heaven of why you were like to Mr. Sinister, it does just. It's forced. It's forced. Yeah, it's like, it's, I think storyline wise, it's earned. We understand that he's becoming bad, but to take on this like super villainy look like that it is like very weird. Again, Walter to be like, I made you a new suit. Hey, this one heals too or whatever. All right, whatever. It's back to the point. I just feel like they're doing a lot of stuff in this game that just doesn't feel like it's at the benefit of the game. It's at the benefit of fan service slash what we expect to a degree.

And I would rather it than I'm fighting Mr. Sinister here in his suit and I'm still in my sneaking suit slash my fucking leather jacket or whatever. And again, then it's, I know we're into the surf Dracula thing, but it's like whatever. Anyways,

we beat Essex ass. You know what I mean? But he gets the last laugh, right? Because we're using his powers against him whatever. And then the thing, but he goes, all right,

I'm going to fuck you up one last time. And he does the Wolverine Clause with his S6 purple powers. and stabs him in the head and makes them forget. Just like that Adamatician bullet made him forget, remember. Origins, maybe. That's the bump where you want to keep going. Got to keep that going. And so, yeah, now Essex is dead.

Hooray, everything's fucked. And Wolverine remembers nothing again. Gene, of course, now remembers everything. I missed the flip there where she suddenly remembered everything. She got her powers unlocked or whatever. And Logan's like, listen, I know we've been doing this dance our whole life, but, you know, that's not. be, I gotta go walk around, find myself.

And she's like, you know what, you go do that. I'll stay here with Deb and we'll figure this out together, right? Let's get a team together. And then we get the credits and it's all the fucking like, mutants are here and this is a thing. And there's another headline about mutants. And did you know, mutants are mutants? I don't know what the fucking are reporting.

You know what I mean? Fake news. I did like the cabin, like the final Phoenix little wood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like it being like the last memory of this whole day. I'm like, that was cool. Yeah. That was cool.

And then, yeah, as you've already said, post-credits, is Apocalypse talking to Sabretooth or whatever? Yeah. You remember that with Oscar Isaac. Mm-hmm. Looking like Ivan Hughes. Yeah. It was. Yeah, it was.

They're really bringing to the greatest hits of X-Men things to light here in the Insomnia at Games universe. And it's all we got for Super Chats as well. Trying to think if there's anything else I want to hit. I think it stills the game looks really cool. I, you know what I mean? Like I'm watching Wolverine yell here in this full replay-through here from M.K. Ice and Fire. Great job. He just looks cool here on some of these pause screens.

You know what I mean? Still frames. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think the reason that I do enjoy the game as much as I do, even though I have a lot of criticisms of it, is that I love how it looks. Like playing, like the game, it runs so well. I think that the gameplay is super fluid. The rock paper, scissors gameplay, simple, but effective. I think it kind of like gets it all across.

It's just, again, I think comparison makes it so hard where this is such a peri-focused game and a high-speed peri-focused game where the whole point of it's them throwing hell of enemies at you at all times. And they're all doing the different rock paper scissors simultaneously. So you need to kind of like get on it. Like I did the Game Scouts plays with Nick yesterday and like watching him try to wrap his mind around it. I mean, it was painful. But it's like, oh, okay, like seeing somebody struggle with it a little bit more. it's like, oh, okay, like, this isn't, it's maybe so simple for me because I did just play on your moose.

Yeah. It's just like I am conditioned now to like look for the tells. You're a peri poppy. I'm like a peri pari parrot. You know what I mean? I'm the bird in the room with the poppy and I'm watching it every once in a while. I can copy, but most of the time you try to do it on demand, that parent ain't saying shit. Sure, fair enough.

Fair enough, yeah. Um, I don't know what Nick is, though. I don't know why I'm talking shit about him, but it feels right. the room, he's back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even for him, you know, Mike asked him right before this. What did you think of that yesterday? He was like, ah, after James Bond, I was expecting, you know what I mean?

That's, that is where we are at. Yep. After Spider-Man three times after James Bond, after all these different things. Like, you expect a certain caliber of game and I do not think Wolverine lives up to that. Yeah. Rich Santiago says, in 10 years, we'll all be discussing how great this one-off story was because we'll never get a sequel. A video games will be canceled.

I mean, yeah, that is interesting. I truly do not think that our thoughts on this game are going to change. Like, I think that... Do you think general publics are? Well, that's the thing is, as we were in the review process, I was like, I think that people are going to like this. And that right now seems to be the case. I think that we're in a dumb culture war right now where the voices are...

The loud voices are very loud in every direction. But I do think that a lot of it just comes down to people being like, it's not that bad. And it's like, well, no one was saying it's that bad. Yeah. And that's the problem. It's like the words. People don't understand words.

I don't care what anybody says. I'm having fun. But I really do though. Like, you know, we sit here and we review things and we put a number on them and we back that number up with words. A lot of people in the general public don't do that. So I wonder when push comes a shove, if they were to look at the kind of funny review scale with the words next to a number, what would they end up giving it after they end up beating this game? Like I and what do they give other games?

Because that's really what it all comes down to is everyone has their own. opinions and thoughts on on video games and how one hits you compared to another and a lot of that just comes down to experience of what you've played and what you haven't played and what your expectations are we've played insomnia at games we played superhero games we played a lot of great video games this year and Wolverine did not live up to that yeah 100% I think that's the nuance is lost all the time in online conversation

obviously if you wanted to be good or bad that's all it is whereas this is a game that is mediocre for me okay for you in that did you take away what you want from that if that's what you want to spend your 12 hours with yep let us know what you think about the wolverine after you play it if you haven't played it and you're just getting you know what now just give me your thoughts on what you've seen why are we right or wrong based on the video you saw i saw i saw a comment earlier the chat that killed me that was just like uh i don't know man i think wolverine's an eight out of ten it's only 22 percent downloaded on my fes five but it's very you know what i keeps cracking me up or not cracking me up but breaking my heart

It is like you finish this game. It's not what you wanted. You're like, damn, I would have, you start doing the what I would have done, which is not reviewing the game anymore, but just talking about it. The thing I can't get out of my mind of what I would have loved.

And this is like, I mean, I'm talking like, I would have had to have been in the fucking boardroom for this kind of thing, you know what I mean? But the Wolverine cover, as you know right now, but it is the blades out and the Hulk reflection in it, and we were hunting the Hulk. That was the game. You know what I mean?

It starts off that fucking Thunderbolt Ross knows we're a mutant, so he's recruited us for this mission. and he's going to wipe our record and expunge whatever. He's caught us. You know what I mean? We're actually caught at the beginning of it. We're sending you all. We then banner.

We, you know, we somehow get the upper hand. He turns out there's a whole conspiracy. Now we're like, come on. That could have been fun. Come on, man. Come on. That I'm hanging out with leech.

What do you? It's always leech, man. Walter, this is fun. I want to be a mutant. What about you, Torp, bra? Until next time, I love you all. Goodbye.

Hello? So, so good to see you.