Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Mike Reviews The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - Kinda Funny Gamecast

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

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You can hear it just storming downpour, hitting the top of the building, the roof. is just getting pelted by rain. The front door opens. Mike looks outside and says, oh my God, it's actually really,

really pouring down. Yeah, Mike, we can hear it. It's crazy. And he leaves anyway. He decides to go to the corner store because he needs to buy something. He wants to buy water.

We don't have water, blessing. We don't have water in this office. And then... With the kitchen. About... In a fridge that gives water. About a minute later,

runs back and it says, that was a mistake. It is bad out there. I am just drenched. Oh, my God. We're looking at him. like, damn, you're drenched, dude. And then he walks near his desk and goes,

oh my God, I don't know where my phone is. And I said, well, I called you and spoke to you on the phone as you were walking into the studio. And he goes, no, yeah, but I had my phone then. I just, I think I left it somewhere out there. I think it fell somewhere out there. And he walks to the doorway, and he's looking out at the street. No, no eyeglasses, no, nothing to help his vision.

And I said, do you need me to be your legolas? Legos, what do your elf eyes see? And I walked down to the street. And as we're trying to see through the downpour, Mike, that's your phone in the middle of the street, way over there. Oh, my God, it's still pouring. He takes off back out there, picks up his phone in the middle of the street, comes back in.

The man is drenched. Already went through his first clothing change of the day. Good thing I brought three more. How are your pants feeling? A real wet. Underwear, wet, socks wet. And you don't want to start your day like that. We always talk about a good foundation, solid pair of underwear, solid pair of socks.

You don't want wet socks. But here's the deal. Can we just highlight modern technology? That phone? Still alive. That phone's 10 plus. I don't know if you can call that modern. Still kicking, baby.

It's phone is 10 generations old. It's playing the new borderlands test game. That's not a game. Really impressive. Yeah, but it's not receiving calls. No, it is. He's ignoring them. He doesn't make noise.

It is. Everybody will welcome it to the kind of funny games. And he called me today. I had to stop this. For example, I'm listening to Roger and Bless, my dynamic duo, the draw and the tastemaker on Games Daily today. All of a sudden, the sound stops. I'm like, why would my podcast stop? I'm listening to them.

I look down, the phone's ringing. It's Andy. Oh, he didn't know. Gotcha. It wouldn't make a ringing noise. No, not of course. Yeah, I walked out of KHD, and I just see a very wet mic. And I hear the breathing.

And I'm like, I don't know what he just went through. But it was something. He went through a lot. Everybody, this is the God of Buddy Games guys for Friday. April 10th, 2026. It's April blessing. It is April. It is April.

Hey, you've caught up to April. Silly, Andy. He's in the current month. Just reading whatever's on there. I'm Andy Cortez, and I am joined by Blessing Adio Ye Jr. How are you doing, bless? I'm doing pretty well. How are you doing?

I'm doing great. I'm excited for the weekend. I'm excited to get some more gaming in. A lot of gaming to be done this weekend. Been sending up that AYN, Thor, almost like super ready to go. I mentioned, I was. at my desk yesterday, I just typed in Iron Thor. A.Y.N. Thor.

I don't know how to say. I want to say iron because iron ran. Yeah. A.Y.N. Thor. And I was looking at it. And then I brought up a Wolfden video. Ah, I love a bottle. They had like a 20 minute. Here's what you need to know. Here's how you set it up. And halfway through, I went, this is too much for me. And I closed it and went, I guess I'm not getting that.

He was like, you need two launchers. You need to do a lot of crazy shit. Oh, yeah. Retroark. You know, to get all the things going, and then I'm using cocoon as the launcher on top because it's a dual screen launcher. What if I just give it to you? If I get in a Thor. Yeah.

Could I just give it to you to set up for me? Yeah, I could essentially just copy everything over. What's your rate? Yeah, how much do I have to pay you? I'll play deadlock. Oh, keyboard mouse? Yeah, I'll play with keyboard mouse. Wow.

That is exciting. Okay. All right, I'll think of it. All right, I bet. I also very, very selfishly used my Greg Wals. yesterday, two days ago, to not only talk about the top 100 games,

fine, top 100 games of the year coming up, the things I'm catching up on the backlog, and trying to sell my old AY and Thor. Just used it as like an advertising. I said anybody, I'm going to sell this for a really good discount. Washburn is the first one who gets the best discount on it. If he says no, then I will sell it for a good price.

I just didn't want to take a bath on the bus. But you have an old AY and Thor. I bought a purple one, translucent, not as chance loosened as I wanted it to be. You know all the chanceparent tape. What if I buy it off of you? It's already sold to disruptoid. John Fick.

Fucking John. Thore up to John Fickle more like. Got it all set up. And I'm very, very excited to keep on going with it. Snowback Mike, we were also joined by who is the topic of today's show because Snowback Mike played Zelda

Ocarina of Time. So Mike Mike is playing Majoras mask right now, all watchable on his Twitch channel and his YouTube channel. and also he's very wet right now. Really wet. I'm really sad to say that I've forgotten everything about O'Carrant every time. How is that possible?

You didn't catch you at the right time, Andy. You know the rules. I know people still want us to review Dark Souls. I got a bear trap. You know what I mean? And that trap is ready to bust. And it's like, I open it up. Here's the moment.

You want all the knowledge. About three days later, foot gets in the trap. It's gone. I lost everything. I'll tell you what. I mean, I'm dealing with that too. Mike and Bless because Barrett walks up to me every day and says,

here's where I am at near. And I go, where is that? I bring up my game. I bring up my gameplay. I'm like, that's where we're at. So I just asked him something

a day that I was scared to spoil anything. So I skirt it around it. And I had to like Google it off to the side so that I didn't spoil anything for him. I mean, the C play through for people wondering. You played near, what, a month ago,

a couple months ago, when you would come in and Bear has been doing this too of like saying, oh yeah, I hit this place in near. For you, it's been a couple months.

It's been nine years for me since I played near. And so whenever you guys say something, I had to like pause and be like, I don't even remember that happening. Like, I couldn't, I could barely recap the story of near for you. I'm overdue for a replay through. Well, under, you know, as we're going to eventually get to our Ocreen, Ocreen of Time remake, or Ocaryne of Time review, and then later on, kind of remake discussion,

as we start Playthrough B in Near Automata. Because back when I remembered beating Playthrough A when the game first came out, I beat play through A. I started B and went, oh, I'm just going to play as the dude as 9S the whole way through. I don't know if I got time for that, so I didn't do it all the way.

But I totally forgot that you start off as one of the robots. Yeah. And there was people in chat going, Andy, this was not interesting enough for you to keep going. I was like, yeah, you're right. I fucked up.

Yeah, you're definitely right. That's crazy. Yeah, you don't immediately start off as 9S. Yeah. And he's trying to help his brother. Yeah. And 9S is like, machines can't be brothers fucking idiots oh man oh man what a game dude i feel like we'll be able to help you all

with zela arcarina with remembering blessing you know once i pop the top it's gonna go yeah okay pops the top like once i get in the flow state it has been like i think i played ocarina 16 years ago about 25 years for me i played it i played it late as well came out 1998 yeah on the n64 my mind is blown playing this today thinking wow kids were playing this on the N64. And they were also solving all of the puzzles and the dungeons. There were moments where I was head scratching. There was moments where I was like,

there's no way anyone could solve this problem. Prime strategy guys. Are you kidding? Exactly. They went hard. And I used them for mainly drawing, but a lot of it was also secret solving. Because I never had a 64 growing up. Okay.

I had gotten the PS1. This was my, this is my Thea's game. My Thea bought the 64. and she and my brother were primarily the ones playing it, and I was off to the side, and I'd get handed to the controller every now and then, but I was mainly drawing and just absorbing every single song that could ever be, you know, absorbed from that soundtrack,

because I think it's one of the best soundtracks of all time. But if you're watching live, you could be a part of our show by super chatting over on YouTube.com forward slash kind of funny games. Remember, we couldn't do this without our producers on patreon.com forward slash kind of funny. So thank you to Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster, and Delaney the Somme twining. No more Dilly Daly and everybody.

Let's start with topic of the show. Snowbike Mike reviews The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. A 1998 classic, one of the highest reviewed games ever. I believe it's the top medic critic reviewed game. When I go to medic critic, it's number one when you go to the highest course. A game that just opened up so many people's imaginations. and introduce a lot of people to the fantasy genre, period. Oh, I mean, genre defining.

Yeah. What do you want to say, I mean, especially in video games, obviously, right? But when you talk about the fantasy genre, yes. But when you talk about action, adventure in a 3D video game, I think Legend of Zelda, O'Cherian of Time, is the one that you need to point to as far as this is the game that set the tone going forward. And set the blueprint for so many games after as well, Blas. Is he targeting?

that I'm playing this now going, oh wow, look at all the stuff that they were doing and what I'm doing in the modern day of gaming and enjoy a lot of that was here in this game. Yeah. And it's impressive. I mean, I remember back in the day before, because again, I played Ocarina in like 2010, 2011,

somewhere around that, allegedly might have played it on keyboard mouse. Not mouse, actually, just keyboard. There's this emulator that many people know called Project 64 that I had learned about at that time. and was like, hold on, you're saying I can play anything. Like any, any, it's a few more game. I can play anything on my laptop while I'm in college between classes.

And so I was like, well, I'm going to play Ocarina because I never played Ocarina. And back before that, my friends would get into arguments about the greatest game of all time. Is it Zelda Ocourina at time or is it Final Fantasy 7? Oh. That was always the back and forth. And my friend Stevie was always like, Final Fantasy 7 is the best game of all time. And I'm always like, yeah, but I hear people talking about Ocarina, though, you know?

People are saying the Ocarina is the one. So I had to play Ocarina. And like, Mike, I'm really excited to hear you talk about it. Yeah, I mean, we're talking about a game that when you look at from that, you put yourself back in your shoes as a kid. And the first time you see Mario 64, it feels like you are seeing something

that is like a technology that shouldn't be allowed to exist. Mario 60, dad, I'm sitting in my grandpa's house with my Tia's Nintendo 64 they're plugged in because they were visiting from Austin and I'm like dad look at he's running everywhere are you shitting me this is unbelievable remember that that's the same dude running left to right

on my screen here he's running all over the place and then to get and then your mind starts going wild and it goes what did they do this with Zelda because linked to the past was so special to me and to see the ocarine of time come out and go oh my god this is one of the coolest things ever and you're playing music on a little instrument called an ocarina.

This is unbelievable. It was just one of those extremely special games that is very, very special for a lot of reasons. Snowbike, Mike, what brought you to playing this game? Yeah, I mean, let's set the tone here, of course, as many of you know in my kind of funny journey and my gaming journey, I was a big N64 kid. Me and my little brother got a PS1 from Grandma for Christmas one year. and when we went into Blockbuster, the PS1 had just released so there wasn't enough games on the PS1

and there was more games on the N64. So we asked Mom, we begged Mom to trade in the PS1 for an N64. Bad decision at the end of the day because it was the end of the life cycle. But it was a great decision because it was a childhood treasure that we never gave up.

We still have it to this day. And I love. But it's crazy that my N64 journey was none of the first party staples that everybody knows. I didn't play Mario 64. I didn't play Zelda, right? I was playing, of course, Mario Kart,

Mario Tennis, Mario Party, but we were playing Crank Griffey Jr. baseball. Oh, yeah. Conquer Bad Furday, right? Glover, 64. Glover. Yeah. I was playing everything that was not Zelda and Mario.

Donkey Kong 64 had that, of course. Mike said, that's the mainstream. I'm not a, I'm not a, never played it. Not a Normie. Saw the cool case, the all gold, you know, and 64 case, but like, never played it. And as many of you know as well, we've made the joke. You know, I thought Kirby was just a Super Smash Bros.

character. And then I played Forgotten Land. Fell in love with that one. Now, did you own Ready to Rumble boxing? Of course. Okay, yes. I know exactly the kind of kid you are because I had a, there was somebody in my neighborhood that was exactly like you,

where I would go over to his house, he had an N-S64, had no first party games. Exactly. And you're like, what's going on here? He had an MX versus ATVE off-road game, though. Of course? He had Red Farr, Madden, or whatever? That was most kids. He had Star Wars Racer.

Had that. It was great. Snowboard kids. You look at their collared kids. You look at their collusion. You go, why do you have bomber man but not? Where's Mario? So yeah, I never grew up.

We're Zelda. And it's like, I've had the funny joke of like, I thought Zelda was Link for the longest time, right? I thought a lot of these characters were just Smash Bros. And then over time, I've decided to try a little more and more and step out of my comfort zone. A lot of people saw it here and kind of funny, I tried a little bit of Breath of the Wild, a little bit of tears of the kingdom. Never stuck with them. So this is my first ever Zelda game to completion.

This is my first ever time saying, I'm going to see this all the way through and do it. Do you think you stuck with it because it was more structured and not as just open as the tears and Breath of the Wild game? Yeah, more story to carry me along. It was the narrative that brought me along, right? Like we're playing a game from 1998 on the N64, right? Like it's not the most modern of controls.

It is very fun to play still. It holds up to this day, but like, it's not like, hey, here's breath of the wild. I think any kid's going to choose that over this game in a heartbeat of like, just more fun to play. It's cool. It has different things going on. But the narrative is what brought me along where it's like, oh, I'm committed to trying this and like want to see it. I chose just because it is the highest-rated game on Metacritic. I was like, oh, that's crazy.

I've never played it. Let's give it a try. See what happens. And yeah, from the moment go. From the Deku tree, the roots of the Deku tree to finding out that. Just so you know, chat, this is a Snowbike Mike spoiler cast. I'm going to go full spoilers on this. I think I'm going to ruin this.

It's very okay to spoil. Get ready. I'm going to ruin this. If you're waiting for the remake, you better start. It's Star Wars episode. Star Wars episode was called Empire Strikes Back. Everybody knows. From the roots of the decou tree to finding out that my main man link isn't one of the forest elves,

okay? And he has to go on an epic journey. He's got to go save the kingdom of Hyrule. and the dying breath of the decou tree says go forth. When I was a kid, I always wondered, where are the parents for the Kokiri kids? Where are they at? Just kids forever, dude, because they don't grow up. Yeah, Deccat trees, yeah.

Also, this is one of those games that you grow up and then you hear people pronounce things in the game. And you go, damn, there was no spoken word back then. So to me, I always said, Cochiri, and I've heard some people go Cochiri. and it's one of those weird ones where people would say Diku tree and shit like that. It's Cochiri, Mike. It's Cochiri. Definitely go to Cochari. I was the one where I would say, I think I would say Ocarina.

Ocarina. Yeah, and then I would hear people say Ocarina. I'm like, oh, interesting. Macorina. Macorino. He was doing a lot of that. Yeah, and so like from the moment go, you're just involved in this incredible story, right? And, you know, your girlfriend at the time hands you the first Ocarina.

And I'm like, what is this little device? What is this recorder? Saria. You know her. And she's like, see, there's another one. Soraya. I can't leave the forest. You got to go.

And he goes off on his journey right then and there. With Navi, his, of course, incredible little guide, which is a lot of fun. A lot of people were like, Mike, you got a Z target.

And then you can actually highlight Navi to tell you what's going on in the world. Rarely ever use that. We don't do the tut. I don't need the tut. I don't need the tut. I'll tell you what Tut I needed. Majora's mask.

You need to follow the tut on that. a lot going on in that game. We'll talk about that at another time. Off on this journey, go to Hyru Castle, and immediately you get greeted with the coolest GERroney ever. Two people, well, one, which is, because the opening cutsee, or not the cutscene,

but like the title menu does like a bunch of cool, like, moments from the game. So they spoiled me with this Graboni in a mask and an awesome outfit that I've seen in Smash Bros. Sheek. And I was like, yo, who's that, Jabroni? I want to know more about that. Super cool.

Incredible reveal. We'll get to that later on. But you get met with Impa? Impa, yeah. Who is Zelda's bodyguard, Princess Zelda's bodyguard and watcher and keeper. So cool. She's badass. The whole setup of like you're walking in.

You don't know anyone. No one knows you. But they got a feeling like this guy, he might be the guy. Special. And then the Dorff shows up. Gannon Dorf. First time ever seeing this guy. Yeah.

Imposing. big. You remember him from Spasso, right? Yeah, a little bit. I never really played as him. Not many people in my circle ever played as Gannendorf. You know what I mean? Nintendo as well, blessing.

You know the rules. Nintendo. Here's $20. Unlock all the characters. Give them all to me. Just give them all to me, bless. I'm so sick of it, bless. Even in their free to play Pokemon game, they don't have my originalizations.

You know who got me? What's that? Kieln. They got me good. You ready for this? I'm making pottery last night, Andy. I think, hey, I'm going to have a nice zone out, mindful minute. Mike stream.

We're going to make pottery. I'm like, oh, double fines got it. They make this credible pottery mechanics. I don't do it. It's an open beta. It comes out later this month, though. Right around the corner. I go to the step up to the wheel thinking, oh, I'll have all the things unlocked.

All the special tools, the different pottery mechanics? No. They locked it behind level gates, which means you have to jump in to the pottery brawler party game to then level up to then earn what I wanted, right? So I couldn't get the straight edge tool. I couldn't get the finger. to make everything wobbly and fun. Couldn't use the sponge, had to level up and play.

Can you swap the card? I said, hey, double fun. If you want to make 20 bucks really quick, I'll give you 20. I got a quick 20. I got all the pottery stuff for me. Great stuff. But very, very fun, of course, meeting Gannador for the first time. Princess Zelda, looking through the window, having that conversation with you of like,

hey, this guy's up to no good. He wants to rule the kingdom. We got to stop him. and then you go off on your epic quest was amazing. Wow. Wow. What else you got to say? I mean,

the dungeons, the characters. Yeah, let's start. Just so special, right? I would love to start with... And also,

why are they called it Death Mountain? Oh, you know? That's an intimidating name for a child's cool as hell. It's an intimidating place, you know? It's cool. Does it have like a volcano in Ocarina?

I'm thinking of Breath of the Wild's Death Mountain. That is very much like... Yeah, I guess like at its core when you go in there, there is lava and stuff. So yeah, like, it is a volcano. Yeah. It's not like active, like, blowing up.

But like, yeah, there's multiple lava inside. It is a little bit in the adult link where you have to like cross the way and it's blown all the like magma rocks at you. I feel like if I'm coming up in a civilization and we learn about a volcano for the first time and we were like, oh yeah, there's a mountain there. But like in the center of it, it's fucking molten lava that'll kill you. If you ask me for a name for that thing, I'm probably going to call it. That's probably Death Mountain over there.

Mike, what was the hardest thing for you to get used to an acclimated to, because we're talking about a very old video game that operates and works way differently than what you would expect? What took you the longest to kind of get over the hump? Yeah, you'd be surprised nothing. Because I'm just a gamer. I absolutely absorbed everything. You know what was the hardest thing for me was remembering the Akrona melodies.

I hated that I had to go to the menu because there's 12, maybe eight of them, maybe 16, right? because it goes like, there's the top ones that do things, and then the bottom ones, which are your teleports, right? And it's like, I could never memorize the eight pattern button press that I had to do with the six pattern button press. I would go to the menu, look at it, literally get out of the menu, forget it by that moment, right?

You didn't do any naming, like a sort of naming devices? Left up right, left up right. No, I didn't think of that. I didn't think of that. But I did love the beats. The music was fantastic. And so, yeah, I forgot so many of these. In the modern day, if we talk about like a remake later on,

it would be, hey, I just want to press this in the menu, automatically play it for me. I didn't want to remember. That's a bullshit. I don't remember. That was the only thing that held me up during this. Damn, this is looking surprisingly crispy. Yeah, what were you doing here?

Are these mods allegedly? No, I was on the switch, having a great time. Meal. Oh, okay. Okay, sure. Look, real crisp. What were your favorite moments of the game? Becoming best friends with the Goron King.

Okay. Okay. He named his son after you. Pretty amazing, right? Because you saved a day. Yeah. He names his kid after you. And then, of course, the hardest part was saying goodbye to all these characters that I fell in love with, right?

The Goron King loved this to Broni. Me and him have this ultimate bromance, right? Of like, yo, something's going down in the center of this mountain. I need you to come help me and stop this. And, like, we'll do it together. We saved the day. And he's like, guess what? I have to now become a sage because you need six sages, possibly more,

to lock Gannendorf away in the realm, in the secret realm. And so like the moment that me and this guy become best friends, and then he's like, oh, I've now become the fire sage. Here's my medallion, goodbye. It's like, no, bro, absolutely not. We just became best friends. But then you travel back. And it turns out he named his kid after you because you saved the day.

I thought that was pretty cool. What do you think of the time jump? time jump was pretty wicked. You know, my first time with the Master Sword. Yeah. So that was a big deal. You know, a little underwhelming at first. I'll tell you what.

I think. You mean like discovering them, getting the Master Sword? Yeah, when you get the Master Sword at first, I don't think there was like a, maybe I forgot it already. You want more Bombat? It wasn't a huge, like,

moment or anything for me of like, I pulled it out of the stone. I think, because he goes to sleep for seven years and then wakes up as an adult, right? So it's like, I don't know. I don't remember the Master Sword being all that epic. I was, I guess in my mind when you think the Master Sword and all the tales of all these games, I thought it would be the most epic scene I've ever seen in my life.

Gotcha. Okay. Something about being in, like, the Castle Kingdom post-Time jump. And, like, seeing, like, the zombie-fied people walking around and how, like, dark and... The re-dead. The re-de. Like... Is that what they're called?

Yeah. Yeah. They were nasty. Awful. They jump on you and suck on you. There's something about this image that's still kind of, like, it doesn't sit well with me. And I still love, like, again, it's such a throwback to just, you know, pre-rendered backgrounds and

just these weird kind of JPEG images on the screen that you're kind of walking around. It's just such a callback to old school game development and how they figured out tricks and things like that. But the rededs were absolutely the most horrifying thing as a kid. One hundred percent.

Like experiencing these are horrifying. And the screen that they let out, oh, the worst. Oh, and they kind of shocked you too. And you couldn't move for a second. That's how they got closer. Yeah, the worst is right. very cool moment there like you said after Gannendorf has taken over for seven years and it's just destroying everything it is really cool to come back to Hyrule Castle and just be absolutely destroyed his own castle now it's pretty badass it's cool I want to hear about your

favorite dungeons uh favorite dungeons great question bless I liked the water temple a lot it was challenging and frustrating but I enjoyed that right I thought that was like a cool moment of like hey we went from death mountain because it goes death mountain right into the first wall Water Temple. So it's like, oh, that was a cool, like, hey, this is how it can be complicated and frustrating. Let's see what else they built. Loved the one, probably the shadow temple, I think is what it's called, where you use the lens of truth to find the holes on the ground and make sure you don't fall in.

Love the lens of truth. Okay. If you look at my thumbnail of the lens of truth, maybe two best friends golfing, because that's the truth. What does that mean? I don't know. I had no idea what he's talking about that? So what was your favorite item besides the lens of truth?

Were there any moments where you went, oh shit, I love this hook shot or I love this. Hookshot was cool. Like the hook shot a lot. You like that? I remember saying exactly. That's a good one. I'm getting really good with thumbnails now, Andy. Go into my pottery one really quick.

I'm learning now to put layers on top of layers. Oh. Look at that. Learning cool layers on double layers? Layers on top of layers. That's how Photoshop works. No, no. What I was doing is I just take my face.

I put it on there and then just like poorly erase things and hope that it would look good. Now I'm doubling the layer that I want to use it on. Oh. Put my face sandwiched in the middle like an Oreo. Yeah. And then I erase the top layer so then I'm not messing on it all up. I like that.

I mean, I've told you about masks before and how to be non-destructive. They taught me some really cool stuff and I forgot. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I love. Uh, yeah, bless. I mean, what were some other things I liked, Andy?

I like the reflector shield. I thought that was cool with the light. The mirror. You used that. That was really fun. The hook shot was great. I really, when you're a kid, you have the boomerang. Yeah.

I really let down. I thought I would use the boomerang all the time. So it did suck to, like, lose the boomerang quite quickly. That was a very underutilized weapon there or just, like, tool. It felt like a lot of the kids stuff, the slingshot, the boomerang, the torches were cool. I liked the torches with the stick, the deco sticks that you'd turn into torches. But, like, it was surprising of, like, the boomerang I started doing some crazy stuff with. I was going to save that kid that turned into a tarantula.

So I was on the. path of getting all the golden friends with. And so I was whipping the boomerang and then people would be like, oh Mike, but like, how are you going to get that? And I whipped the boomerang back at it and would pull it towards me like the hook shot. They're like, I don't know if that's how it's supposed to actually work. And I was

like, don't worry about it. It must be a mod thing. I was like, this thing is sick, right? Yeah, yeah, once let down, like, I thought Adult Link would use the boomerang. He uses it in Smash Bros. Yeah. Kind of let down by that. I guess he does, yeah. I always loved as a kid just getting the

different color schemes for Link. I wish they pushed that further. Because obviously you use the blue tunic to be in the water and the red tunic is like fire or heat, burn resistant, whatever the hell. But I was always hoping as somebody who just loved the idea of costume changes because of like Mega Man X

and just upgrading that stuff, I was always hoping that by the end of it when we're fighting again and we're like in a white or like some sort of like golden kind of evidence. And other Zelda games, do they mess with costumes like that? I mean, breath of all in constantly, yeah, for sure. Really, you can mess with the outfit like that. Colorways and stuff, that's cool. Well, not even colorways.

This is just, I think you're just rocking. You're just wearing different clothes. There is also a shop where you can go and dye all of the, like, pretty much anything that you pick up that is. That's sick. Like a armored set. Yeah. And change the color way. Yeah, I mean, red and blue stand out. It is very cool to like change out of the green. I think the green is still the top color for me because I just like green. But I mean, blue being able to now breathe and swim underwater, right?

you learn how to dive deeper, then you get the boots that allow you to walk underwater. I thought that was super sick. Oh my God. Did the princess get eaten by her own father is what I was on for a while? And then it was like, no, it was the god of the,

Jaboo Jabu Jabu. Jabu Jabu, which was super cool, right? Jabba Chamberlis. And then she was like, hey, we're engaged now because you have my mother's ring. And I was like,

that's pretty sick. I really like that. You know what I mean? Um, now as we get near tour, as we get near the end of the video game, what are your thoughts regarding Gannon Dorf? We get that Gannendorf second phase turning into Gannon.

What are your thoughts there as far as like, how influential it's been to other stuff in gaming? Well, oh, the second phase essentially. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was super wicked awesome. I thought his second phase form was very cool looking as well. I love the tennis back and forth volley. I just didn't think about that when it was finally time. because you don't do the tennis volley for so long

that when it was finally time, I'm like, am I supposed to reflect it with the shield? Are I just running in circles? What am I doing here? And then someone had to poke me and be like, you're supposed to reflect it back, Mike, like swing away. And I do like that, though.

Working up that volley going faster and faster. He's eliminating different pieces of the floorboard around you, like it's goddamn fall guys, and you're trying to navigate that. And then, yeah, it becomes super Gannon at the end, super cool. I would like to ask you to rank some things. Yeah, later.

Okay. I would like to ask you to rank the best boss, the best bosses based on their looks and the best boss fights in terms of mechanics. The ones that you enjoyed playing the most. Okay. Do we have a list of those? We have, the first one is Queen Goma, who's the big ceiling crawler in Decoutree.

Yeah. After that, we got Dodongo. Oh, the dongos. We got vulvegia, which was also like, that was around the time I learned the word vulva. So I was like, what is that? What's going on there? That was the parasite inside Jabu Jabu. Of course.

We got Bongo Bongo. See, Bongo Bongo was cool. That was the shadow one, right? The hands. Yeah, the shadow. Yeah, the shadow temple. That was cool. To me, the coolest one just based on the name alone was Twin Rova.

I was always just so in love with the name of that. Old lady twins turning into the baddest lady on the planet. This right here is a game showdown segment. Because like if you gave me the images and the names of the bosses, I would not get 100%. No, me either. I would not get it for sure. Yeah, I'm just looking at the images here on a on Zelda dungeon.net. I'll send it through to assets.

Yeah, put it in assets. I'll take a look and we can rank them there. We also have Barronade, which is like that kind of jellyfish one with the kind of like a weird underwater sort of thing. Oh, see, Barronade was the one that I'm. I think I was thinking of for jaboo jaboo. But my favor is Phantom Gannon. I mean, come on. That one's so cool.

Him popping into the paintings and then like, you have to figure out which one he's going to pop out of. So sick. A little just quick, like, jump to Major's mask, bro. How about the goat? The goat fight? Andy, very Dark Souls-ask. I never played.

Oh, remember the chariot fighting Dark Souls? We ran in the circle and the chariot was chasing you around, which Dark Souls one was. that you know what it is. See, the Dark Souls 1. Two? Was the chariot fight that I like so much? Yeah.

They got that in Zelda, Majora's mask. Oh, okay. This guy that turns into a giant goat. Oh. And it chases you in a circle. Super sick. Nice. Really, really like that.

If I'm looking at all this, I mean, of course it's Gannon. So, yeah, I mean, it's, you go, oh, Shooks. Phantom Gannon into Gannon and then Gannond, and then Gannendorf. Twin Rova In terms of looks Bongo Bongo For just looks and fun Those are like the highlights out there

I always thought Morpho was sick as shit Volvegia was cool I mean it's impressive The game is just good It holds up to this day Did the Sheik reveal surprise you Blue my mind Really

When I first saw Sheek Yeah No idea who this person is But you're cool as fuck I have no backstory at all That's amazing that you didn't know that I'm thinking it's Zelda's mother or Link's mother because

like you get the whole reveal at the deco tree of like Link your mom dropped you off at my roots very arieth like it's not a bad guess honestly very aethlike of like hey back in the day you were dropped here by your mother she was critically injured like she couldn't go on she left you with us in the forest fairies

she knew that you would go far and you're just not one of us you've got to go out there and then I'm like oh shit who's this lady that just keeps showing up right she got the cool hair coming out of the mask I got no idea she's bad ass I'm like, okay. I didn't know it was a lady.

Link's a badass. Growing up, I just thought it was a cool dude with like the sickest hair ever. I was like, I want that hair. Ribs that off and it's got to Princess Zelda? The coolest.

I'm shocked you didn't know. Cabob's in chat says, what's cool is that not even Smash spoils this. No, they do. Because if you pick Zelda in, I think, smash brawl, pretty sure her down beach, or maybe her ultimate,

one of those things, transforms her into Sheik. I don't even know that. Really? Yeah, I don't remember that. Unless I'm misremembering. I mean, no, you're, I mean, it's,

I'm just saying I have a bad memory, so that doesn't even, like, And it's crazy because I've played years of Smash Bros. And people, like, we've yelled Sheik before, but I didn't know who was. Yeah, okay, people are saying she does in melee. Yeah, her Downbeat transformed her into Sheik. So I assumed that everybody knew that. No, no. It was a major reveal.

It was an awesome. That, I mean, the game and go broke, right? Because the game came out so long ago and, like, they have this woman be this powerful character. And I've learned what the Tri-Force is and means. I never even knew what the Tri-Force was. People get in tact. What are the three? What are the three?

Three is wisdom, courage, and strength. Power, I believe. Power, I like that. And then they're the three golden goddesses who made the world of Hyrule super sick. And then we- Nairo? Oh, you got it. Gin?

And... I didn't know they had names. Well, I'm blinking. Ah, Barrett knows this. Uh, fuck. Yeah, now I'm stuck on the... Don't look at chat. Nobody looked at chat.

I already looked at it. Nobody looked at chat. You looked at it? Well, I think, well, it's N-A-Y-R-U, right? For one of them. Yeah, I've always said N-R-Ru. Yeah.

Gin is, is J-N-N-N-1-1-1-A-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-ROWs was. And then the reveal that Gannon goes, and because the, the room of wisdom or the, the sacred realm is open, right, or whatever, that's where the Triforce was. Ganon touches it, but he's not in balance with the golden triangle. You got to be in value. You have to be in the golden triangle. And he grabs it. And it's like, no, you're not worthy because you're not in balance, right? But we'll give you the power.

But then strength and wisdom will go off to the people that are selected that are destined for this. And who has it on their hands? It's Link and Princess Zelda? Epic. So cool. Awesome. What a great reveal that one. this is the first time

I'm like oh shit I kind of want that awkward unbelievable that these three will be entwined entangled together for the rest of time it's so epic right and so then he's like he's he's tracking wherever link goes waiting for the perfect moment

then traps both of them captures princess Zelda and he's like here's the deal I'm fucking chopping off your guys his hands because I'm getting this triforce and they're like no no man you're not no I have light arrows big So good.

Or the Garudo Desert, man. Oh my gosh. And all the lady assassins. Yeah. Gannador is the one male born every hundred years? That's crazy, man. The Zelda movie. Some dune shit.

The Zelda movie has the opportunity to bang, and I'm scared that it's not going to. But if they walk in... If you play this game right now, like I just did, and you see it, though, you get lost in the narrative, it's hard for me. It's like a first-time fan. You're like, this movie isn't going to be the coolest thing ever, bro. Like this shit is going to be a blast. Bless, I need you to understand that now you know what it's like to have watched Fellowship of the Ring.

Yeah. Which is an amazing in review. Everybody go watch it because we're all pushing to get Bless and Joey to watch two tires and return to the king next. But to watch Fellowship of the Ring and go, can you imagine if they made a Zelda movie like this? Oh, yeah. With the props, with the awesome, like makeup for the orcs and all. Oh, my God. It would be the coolest shit ever.

Now, Mike, what do you know about the Zelda timeline? I have my timeline as of right now. As a new player into the Zelda world, I know one timeline, which is my timeline that I have started. And I don't know where it falls in the real world, but I've told Barrett this of like, my timeline as of right now is as follows. It is the Akrona of Time timeline. Link, Akirina has gone out and saved Hyrule. He's become the hero of time, right? at the end of the story

he Zelda and Link banish Gannendorf to the sacred realm where he is now banished Zelda says hey I feel bad I took your childhood away from you I'm going to cast you back seven years ago

and you will be a child again which then happens we rewind time and we like actually rewind time where Gannon is in the castle right there Princess Zelda's here Link is a young man, young boy, and I'm going off on the next adventure. That's my timeline as of right now.

I love that. I'm not going to get deeper into it. Because I think at the end of the day, the Zelda timeline is kind of fucked because Nintendo doesn't take it that seriously. But I think it's a fun idea of like when you look into Ocarina and the story of Ocarina and the timing, whimy stuff that happens, you then look at the following games and the preceding games and people place like where those games happen according to a couple of things where you talk about what you did, what you did.

Right, which like you look at that and it's, all right, and Majores Mask might come right after that because of the way you interpreted that. But if you go back and look at the events, like there's a split that can happen. I think it's when you jump forward in time, Barry? Is it like when you jump forward that seven years? No, it's the split happens when, or I assume what you're leading to is like when Zelda takes puts Link back in time at the end of the game, that's where the split technically happens. That's where the split happens. where Link gets sent back and goes off where Mike is at and goes on his Majora's mask journey. But the timeline where adult Zelda is where they don't have a link anymore, that splinters

off into going into Wind Waker. And the fun thing that was like about that stuff back in the back in the day is that like they did actually like flesh that out a bit in their intros, right? Like the beginning of Wind Waker is talking about like, oh yeah, like, you know, we no longer had the hero of time. and everything got fucked up again. So, yeah. It's fun, but it's like, yeah.

So there's a timeline where Princess Zelda puts Link back in time and they've captured Gannon, and that timeline just keeps going. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's the Winwaker timeline. Bless, did you say Timmy-Wimey?

Because Roger said it like five times on our Returnal or the Soros podcast. I'd never heard anybody say Timmy-Wimey, but during the Soros preview, Roger kept saying, like, Things are kind of weird out there. It's timey-wimey stuff. I've never heard that.

Like, is he a big Doctor Whohead? Is that where it's from? Yeah, that's where I do. Oh, okay. I get Timmy-Wimee because I listen to a lot of Marvel podcasts. And whenever they talk about MCU, the current phase, doing a bunch of Timmy-My-Bolshut. That's how they described.

Yeah, I'd never heard that ever. Okay, fascinating. I thought it was just like a Roger thing. I didn't know what's from Doctor Who. Fun fact, I'm watching Doctor Who in a couple weeks. Really? Yeah. Some of my friends are super, they're big Who fans.

Okay. And they have roped me to watch. If you fall in love, I got some magic cards for you. Oh, yeah? If you fall in love with you let me know. I'm trying to resist. Have you heard of Super Hulok? No.

I once dated a girl who was Super Hulok very like involved. No. No. She does lock it. Really, really into supernatural. Yes. Doctor Who and Sherlock. Sherlock.

Oh. And there's like a Tumblr community. Damn. Of people that like all three. I was into the CW universe, so I wasn't part of that. Yeah. See, I watched a lot of trailer. Rivendale, Arrow,

those are my thing. Chris, I get the chats. Don't do it, bless. That's right above a, that's right above like a horse girl. If you ever want to know the time of girls that I'm talking to, for some reason, they're all into super gulock. Well, it's like, it's either that or it's the Dick Wolf Productions. You're either into Law and Order SVU, Chicago Fire, Chicago Madden, Chicago PD, you know.

Somebody saved me. That goes, give me out of here. Andy, to finish it up before we go into the next segment and we go to Ad Break, so many awesome characters, some fun, like side moments, the world being so. large, feeling so large, but also so small, but like being able to go into the different sections was really cool. Loved the little ranch. I loved the ranch story right with Malone, the girl, her father who was just being lazy

and the guy who wanted to steal the ranch from him and then does that and then wants to work for Gannon because he doesn't want to get killed. And then you steal the horse. That was great. You know what I mean? I wish I had my keyboard here because I would have asked you who your AVPP was, your preferred partner. Who is your favorite side character?

The one that you looked at, I said, that's my dog. Oh, the Goron King. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's my dog. That's my dude right there, bro. I love that. I love that. Everything for him. Also, the big, the big fucking frog from the, the water temple.

He's the king of the water temple area. Okay. I don't remember. I'm blinking on him. Your favorite tune, your favorite song in the game. Bump, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, yeah. Now, I'll tell you, I don't know, maybe I wasn't hearing it.

Oh. Oh. Also, you're not telling me that kids were getting to the Lost Woods. Impossible. You're telling me that you walk into a jigsaw puzzle where you walk forward presented with three doors that have nothing going on. And then you walk into another door. It's like, here's another three options, good luck. And you've got to find the perfect pattern.

The first time they play the song. And you're like, oh, I got this. And then like the second time it was like, you should hear the song. I'm like, there's no song being played. It's just a guessing game. and that's bullshit. There's no better song than the Gruto Valley's song, though. Oh.

I disagree. That one's really good. What's your favorite song, Brett? Come on. I like this one a lot. One of the best soundtrack of all time, by the way. One of the best soundtrack. This soundtrack is amazing.

Now, but George's Mask, I feel like plays the Link theme or like the Zelda theme that I know from Smash a lot more than I felt like Ocarain of Time did. And maybe I'm wrong on that, but like it feels more at the forefront of like, it's playing all the time, which I, like a lot, you know, because that song rocks if you're just a casual fan like me. But all this, all the music, hey, who's on the track? Kochi Kondo. Whoa.

This guy's got G-A-M-E. Game, dude. This guy, condo got game. Really? The game. Not wrong. This fucking condo guy. Back up the truck. Give him whatever he wants. I'm sure he has whatever he wants. So much game.

But yeah, like this side quest, right? Kyle over at the fishing area. Kyle. Fishing at the lake. Like that's so much fun. Bama Choo Bowling? Bama Choo Bowling? That could be its own mini game, man. Like, just making the game. Back in the day and then,

64, they had that astro bowling game. Oh, Astro bowling. Yeah, I think... I don't remember that. I think people will know that one. It might have been astro bowling. Some sort of galaxy space bowling game. Everybody knew about it. But Bama Choo Bowling?

I love Bama Choo bowling. Hell yeah. That shit is so much fun. Then the girl who's like, go get the chickens, and now I'm flying the chickens. That was great. I'm riding on the chickens. Love that.

Kids stuck as a golden tarantula. Sorry, Big Dog didn't break that curse. That's my bad. But he did get my bag up. You know what I mean? My money bag was up because of him, so that's good. I'll tell you a way for us to get our bag up. And we will keep on, you know, experiencing and re, you know,

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Ocarina of Time Rumored Remake? And what should Mike play next? We gotta kind of have a conversation, where do I go next? Probably, Princess. Unless you want to just go in order, you know, just go Majora, Winwaker, Twilight. But at some point, you should play Twilight? That's my favorite...

Should I play a 2D Zelda game? I mean, if you played Link to the Past? Link between worlds is super sick, dude. Momo says back again. Check out the Ocarina of Rhyme mixtape. dope and classic hip-hop album set to the Aquina of Times Times. That's a megaran? No, it's been around. That's an old one.

I remember that being like maybe one of the first kind of fan albums that I listened to. That was like O'Reary and around was probably like 2010 or something like that, maybe. So many chats that you should play Jet Force Gemini and I co-sign that. I think you should play in your automata.

Okay, I'll just continue to add it to the list. I'm gaming. You play Jeff Forge Gemini. It's crazy because like, someone was like, oh, I wonder how much Mike played. He probably played like five hours. And I know it was a joke. But it's crazy to look back and be like, I have 12 videos that are all like averaging about three hours a pop.

Like I didn't know these games were that big. Oh, they're long. When you look at how long to beat these games, it's like 25 to 32 hours is what they're averaging here. I didn't know they were so big. My mind is blown. I'd love to go back now and like rewind time with the N64 and like, look at kiddo Mike and be like, man,

these games were so big. Like at the time they felt. felt so small. There wasn't much to them. Ready to Rumble boxing. God, the Legends was large, but, like, doesn't feel this large. I'm blown away by this stuff. William Gordon says, have him I tell you all about his one hour fight with Dark Link? Dude. How he thought the answer was for Dark League to kill him. We didn't even talk about Dark Link, bro. You get dropped into some fucking Dark Souls bullshit. A lot of Dark Souls vibes in this, which is, like, very cool of like, oh, man, I can see the

future of, like, what people took inspiration from. It was like, I could do something like that. But you drop in to an empty arena. You run forward. And then when you run back, you're greeted by Shadow Link. And it's like, you have to conquer yourself. I'm like, what does that mean? And there I'm swiping.

He's swiping back. He's jumping on top of my sword. I don't know what's going on. Mike, have you played Shadow Colossus or Eco? No, but I think of you every time I think of Shadow the Classes. I'm like, I should probably try. I feel like you'd appreciate it. When you talk about, oh, I can see the inspirations that people are taking.

I feel like Eco and Shadow or two that I would. was just looking up right now, allegedly, emulators for Chad PS4 and the Shadow of Kloss's remake. Even though I know not everybody loves the BluPoint remakes, it looks like they didn't, you know, there's some detractors when it comes to the Demon Souls and the Shadow of the Kloss's remakes, but I, that's one that I never got to that I feel like I definitely should. So there I am, losses can be. I'm swiping, they're swiping, he's hitting me every time, then I got into the frustration mode where it's like, I'll just swing as many times as possible. And you started hitting them every now and then you're like oh i'm clearly doing the right thing i wasn't doing

any of the right stuff then i said how do you conquer yourself you give yourself to your other self you know what i mean i give in i let it kill me now that wasn't the answer no that wasn't the answer i still to this day don't know what the answer was i i think the best i don't remember what i did his this fight is like really cool idea wise this is something i would love to see like very much improved in the remake. But like, I think the best answer is like the huge hammer stunts him. And then the hammer tool. The hammer was cool, Barrett.

Yeah, we didn't talk about that. And then you kind of have like a moment to strike at him. It's not a fun fight. Oh, and then the grapple hook would stun people. I like to the grapple shot with that. Yeah, I'm throwing decou nuts at him, trying to blind him. You know what I mean? I have no idea.

Give him a nut here and there. I've gone Zordon with a $5 super shot says, here's my birthday tax. Mike loved your streams. Please play Winweight. after Majorita. Majora. Wind Waker's got a very cool art style,

different art style to it, right? It always stands out to me. Yeah, Winwaker has a very, I mean, compared to what we're looking at. Very cartooning. Different, definitely a swerve when it came to like those 3D Zeldas where the audience is like, whoa, what's going on here?

It was definitely one of those big disappointments as a kid because they had teased at E3 what Zelda could be like on this new tech and both, and it was like a much, it was kind of what you would expect. spec from O'Karina just pushed further and you're like, whoa, this is like, this looks so fuck. And then, and then it was Wind Waker and then a lot of the community, like, and it's weird to even think about community because I wasn't really entrenched in that way, but I just somehow

knew that people were not happy that suddenly it's super cartoony and they went the opposite direction and everybody was like, what the fuck? It's like metal your solid too. Why'd you show us the other thing? Starting riding instead of snake. It's like one of those situations. Like that. Yeah. But we were all wrong at the time because that art style kicked ass. And you want to talk about horrifying reded I think Winwiger has the most horrifying redid Yeah

Yeah And so Miguel Beriden Says nothing killed me Harder than Mike Forgetting he had the Master Sword three episodes Of his play through later I thought it

There's like a vibe to like Yeah Say Master Sword Mike I'm with you And like everybody Hypes it up And it's like You forget that you have it

And then you Then you're telling me I gotta go get the giant sword From the Goron family The Goran family And then I get this giant sword And it's like Well I don't even remember

That I got the Master Sword anymore because the giant swords way cooler looking. You're completely right, Mike, and I will say I think Ocarina has the biggest wet fart is not the maybe a little too strong here, but like a lot of the other Zelda games

Least hype. Yeah, it's the least hype. When you get the Master Sword, you are building up to it and you know you're building up to it in those other games. The way they talk about it in Link to the Pass and how you get that is fucking awesome. The way you kind of build it in both Skyward Sword and Wind Waker is also really exciting

as well. Like, yeah, I'm with you. The Master Sword was in the Master Sword for me until I played Breath of the Wild because I jumped from Ocarina to Twilight to Breath of Breath. And like that was the first moment where I was like, oh shit, this is the Master Sword. Like you're making a big deal out of it. Who's got the best Master Sword? That's what I

want to know. I got a Zelda or just... Yeah, like the biggest like, hey, this is the coolest lead-up. This is the greatest reveal. This is the coolest pull. And then from that point forward, you feel like you have it. Because I will tell you, if you play Ocarina of time, which what I remember here is you get the three medallions, the three jewels to open up the sacred realm, he walks up to the pedestal, pulls the sword, not much fanfare, because

then you time travel. So it doesn't feel like, oh, this is the greatest sword on the, on the planet. The most powerful feeling one, I would say is linked to the past. I might get shit for this, and I know people have, have their feelings about Skyward Sword, but like, Mike, to spoil an aspect of Skyward Sword for you, a lot of that game is about making the Master's Sword for the very first time. And that shit's really fucking cool. Oh, yeah. That's like making your lightsaber.

Let's get real. Will I get the Master's Sword and Majora's Mask? I don't know. I have no idea what's happening in this game. You have no idea what's going on. I'm putting on, Andy, wait too many guys. Are you liking Major's Mask more than Ocarina? Because there's a light in your eyes when you're talking about Major.

A Major's mask is very fun. Yeah. There's a, I think it might be the pressure of like you get three days. And it might be the countdown time or like kind of, Dude, that mood is cool. You gotta move, you know what I mean? I do like that a lot. I really do like the temples so far that I've seen.

I've completed two temples, three full three-day runs. I love the side stuff going on. I was going to highlight a lot of great side stuff in Ocarina of Time. The running guy was like, you'll never beat me. It's like, I'm never going to beat that guy because he's just moving so fast. I don't know how to beat him. But like now I'm going to become a mailman. I'm going to solve why this kid isn't at his wedding.

Major's mascots, I'm cool. Hell yeah. Well, we have a rumored remake on the way for Ocaryne of Time. Do we think we get a jump button? Well, it depends on what is the remake, you know? Like, are we talking about something that is almost like a blue point style, we're making the same game, but we're just making it look a lot prettier, or are we reimagining?

I would personally not love that. I think that they have an opportunity here to not push it all, the way into what we expect with the modern mechanics and the weird kind of crazy mechanics of Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom, I would love for them to find ways to enhance

some of these dungeons that they look back at and go how could we make this better? How can we make this moment less frustrating? What could we do to kind of maybe surprise and delight the gamers who go oh this is just going to be a one-for-one remake? Oh shit, actually never mind. They're kind of extending this in a way that and they're capitalizing on this moment that could have been more hype.

They are making this Master's Sword moment even more exciting and more epic. I hope that they push it further. It's not just a visual remake. I don't think it'll be just a visual remake. Has Nintendo ever done, I guess I'm just playing Leaf Green, so this might actually answer my own question

of have they done something that's more than just a visual remake? Have they done something that is reimagined? Outside of Pokemon. Well, a Super Mario 64, you could play as all the other characters. I don't know. Oh, the 3D...

Yeah, the DS version. People say Metroid for what, Zero Mission? Yeah, Link's Awakening is also just kind of like a visual. Huge visual. Because I think I see Nintendo as a company that cares a lot about, like, retaining that history. What's the word I'm looking for? Preservation, that's the word I'm looking for. So I...

I think they've preserved this game plenty, though. I agree. But I wonder if they have. have the desire to, I wonder if they have like a fear almost of, we know how classic the original is and as Nintendo, we respect our own legacy so much that we don't want to like alter it in any way. I'm team, I don't even know. If that's a case, I don't even think that they would bother remaking it. Really? I don't think that they would want, you know, obviously it's money. It's going to print money. And I think that movie, I think the movie is the reason why you do it. But there's a part

to me that I think for the moviegoers who are maybe going to end up playing this for the first time may feel the archaic nature of it and say, this is the game you were talking about, you know? I think there might be a worry there. Barrett, do you think that you'll see any sort of pushing of mechanics and do we get a jump button? Because personally, I can't imagine a modern Zelda game coming out now and not having a jump button in this 3D sort of fashion. I don't know in the way that you're talking about if we'll get a full jump button like that.

Like I think of the jumps like swipe from both O'Koreena and like Wind Waker and stuff like that. Yeah, I don't know. I think there's other ways to restructure and kind of think about puzzle and dungeon design that doesn't need to completely change. kind of like the original vision of Ocarina while still trying to improve on it, right? I would say that like, I think Ocarina has some of the weakest dungeon design in the series. And so I would love for them to look back at even like kind of the design ethos of dungeons from Link to the Past and then what they did in future titles, especially in Twilight Princess, and try to like figure out some more interesting puzzles to like kind of lay out throughout these dungeons. And I don't, I don't think you need to do any of that by, and then introduce a button to jump that doesn't feel all too, like, necessary or important for this kind of game, you know? Yeah.

I, for me, I, Zelda Breath of Wild and Tears the Kingdom are two of my favorite game is at all time, right? I love that direction for Zelda. I also miss the, I feel like Zelda has now branched out into like three years. different mainline paths where you have like essentially 2D Zelda with games like links awakening link between worlds all that jazz you have echoes of wisdom echo's echo the wisdom you have the breath of wild and tears the kingdom and then you have a branch that's like it's been a while since we visited which is ocarina majora twilight traditional structure traditional 3d structure i think an ocarina remake is the opportunity to get back to that traditional 3d structure

because i think a lot of people miss that i think with that though i don't know if you need the jump button I think you, because Twilight Princess, I don't even think had a jump button if I'm remembering correctly. Does Skyward have a jump button, Barrett? I don't think it did. I don't think it did either. Yeah. Like only for like gaps that you would jump to, right? But like not like a traditional jump.

You would have a full rotating camera, right? Mike, do you think that a remake? Full rotating camera 100% for sure on that one. Yeah, I mean, for me, it's like you guys would know best of like what you'd want out of this because it's still so hot and fresh to me. of like, I guess my mind goes to like, I would make it look like Zelda Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, right? The most recent titles,

the most popular of like recent community members, I think would go, oh, I want more of that. Well, I would just put Ocray enough time and make it look like that and play like that in my mind. As much as I love the art style of Breath and Tears, I would love for them to go a little bit different here. Yeah, I would be really disappointed

if they did just tears of the kingdom, Breath of the Wild for this. I agree. I would love to not see the, the cell shaded, tune shaded sort of vibe. I think that they have an opportunity to do something really cool

and even more different and maybe just, hey, what if we, now this is all to say, like put a Chiron a lower third up, I do not want an ultra realistic looking game. I've never wanted that

from Nintendo's art style. I don't think that's where they, I think that's like going for something that you don't even necessarily need to do, but I would love something more akin to what we saw with that E3 presentation. that was like a tech demo. If you can bring up the Wii U,

Zelda tech demo, because this is what I wanted to look like. You know what I mean? I'd want like more of a darker, more, again, not realistic, but more maybe fidelity pushing. But yeah, not cell shaded. Like I think that Wii U demo is actually,

that's how I, going back to when we talk about the GameCube demo, right, of like, damn, people saw this and then they got Winwaker. They showed us the Wii U thing. And I look at this and I'm like, I want to play this. And then they never gave us this game.

Yeah. This looks fucking awesome. This is how I'd want the game to look like. Is that not what the Twilight Princess kind of looks like, though? A little bit, yeah. But this is like if Twilight Princess was made for HD. Okay, okay. Which I guess exists also.

It's called Twilight Princess. It's called Twilight Princess. But it feels like made for the ground up with like HD graphics in mind. Yeah, because I'm of the mind that like I will never get tired of the Nintendo aesthetic. It may kind of wear on people. But I love their colorful use of, you know, just like color. science and how pretty and bright and nice everything can look. But I would love to just see that with a bit more of a modern layer on top of it.

Without pushing it to, I don't want the game to look like Lords of the Fallen or Dark Souls or something. I just, I wanted to be pushed a little bit further and look visually different than tears and breath of the wild. My biggest desires would be I want Hyrule Field to feel more alive. I want more foliage, more. I don't want to walk out into Hyrule Field and have it just be an empty. What's up with those flying pineapples?

I never got answers for those. That's just the wild. Is that an alien ship? Well, it's like weird because like when you're a kid, they're not there. As a kid, they terrified me, by the way. Oh, when you're a kid, they're there. But when you're an adult, they're not. One of the ways it's like, there's one time where they're there and then there's another time they're not there.

And I never fought one. But it was fine. Oh, yeah, you just fucking run away from that. Yeah, it was cool shit. Terrified. I'd love to have more kind of organic discoveries out in the Hyrule field. Yeah. Sure, yeah.

You know, like, I think there's a neat opportunity there. to have like new side quests that aren't massive, but you know, hey, come help me with this and that. Like I would love to just have it be just more than what it was was just a big ass hub world. Yeah. It was just a big ass hub world. Yeah. And that's where it's like, I do think, you know, going back to that game, you know, in the middle of replaying that series, there's a lot that you go back to and you're like, oh man, like they were doing really cool stuff and link to the past that like they didn't follow up on here in Okarina. Yeah, I would love more like organic, like actually making you kind of explore that open world,

which is what a lot of link to the past was rather than just going from point A to point B to point C. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, because me, it's like I'm here for the dungeons in the story. I don't really care about High Rule the middle ground over there. Because they didn't design it to make it. Exactly. The ranch was there. Like, yeah, it felt like just a transition from portal A to portal B.

I'm running over there. I'm going to go there. Like there was three bushes and like a couple of rocks you could go underneath. Other than that, there wasn't anything going on. So it's never, that's not something. I'm like, oh, I want that. I want to be over with the rest of the group. And that's my thing, right?

If I'm sticking to being more faithful to it, I'm kind of like, yes, they'll keep it a hub, but like make it just more feel more alive. Like really upgrade the visuals, playing lives, all that, all that shit, right? Maybe like, do a little something. And this is like a not even like a gameplay thing, but something to take from Tears in the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild. where you actually see people like going from town to town or something.

Yeah, like stuff like that. But if we're going for the reimagining, I would say, okay, then let's, hey, if we're reimagining, let's reimagine. And like, go for it in like the breath of the wild sense, right? Like make it explorable, make it a main, a part of the main course as opposed to like the portal between areas. But I feel like that, if that's what it was,

I think it would have been announced earlier. You know what I mean? I think it would be really neat if they add a new dungeon as well. Ooh. Just. What's your theme? What theme? Well, I was telling Barrett and Mike,

when you become Big Link, Daddy Link, man link, you talk to Raru, and he gives you the light medallion. And I think it would be cool if like, hey, you'll get this thing, but you got to earn this shit.

And have it just be like, I think it would be so cool, similar to how, in the Halo Combat Evol? No, what's it called? Combat. Campaign Evol. That they're adding new missions to that.

I think there's a cool opportunity to add like a brand new dungeon of us. We are Nintendo. We've kicked ass at making these things in the past. How do we make a modern style dungeon that is still kind of like going to be traditional in a sense? I think there's a really cool opportunity there. Is there an underutilized weapon or item that you'd want to say? see more for that dungeon? What's kind of the gimmick, right? Because I think of the reflector shield that had some good time. The lens of truth had some good time. The boots and the

water outfit had some good time, right? Honestly, something you said, Mike, earlier that I hadn't really thought about before as well is that Ocarina is like one of the rare games where because of the time jump stuff, yeah, there are some items that you don't get to use as adult link, which is like, yeah, when you get a boomerang in almost any other game, you just have the boomerang for the rest of the game. So, like, maybe adjusting little things like that as well, where it's like, hey, you're Adult Link, but you still have the Boomerang

because that's a really fun thing and, like, design more puzzles and, you know, enemy stuff, like, around that. That's a great call, Bair. I could see you doing more Kid Link tools for that temple and maybe using the Boomerang, almost like the Ridler trophies. You could make a temple around the Boomerang. Because, yeah, the boomerang, very short-lived.

You get that, and I think you become Adult Link, like, very shortly after. don't use that in any fun way, shape, or four. Jason, the chat says adults hate boomerangs that we do got to kind of consider that. Well, it's like, you know what happens is the childhood fantasy of the boomerang? Is that when you're a child, you truly think that's coming back to me. And then when you become an adult, you know that you don't have game with the boomerang. Only about 20 people on planet Earth actually know how to throw one.

And they're on TikTok. And so when you throw it and it goes a thousand yards the other way and it never comes back, you go, guess what? Fuck that boomerang. I'm never using this shit. Jim Tacey and the Twitch in the Twitch shots has more light arrow action. I feel like the light arrow has to be for those final moments. But there's got to be other items out there.

Oh, for sure. Like, are we, how much are we melting shit with the fire arrow? You're melting. Like, I guess I'm melting a lot right now in a matured's mask. I'm melting. We freeze and shit with ice arrows? Oh, what about the town teleporter? Maybe more of that.

You know, some of the moves. you get, it's like that town teleporter I never used. The green spell that you get early on, that will like teleport you, uh, that you put down like a, yeah, it's like a very vaguely remember. You put down a town teleporter, you can run away and then teleport

back to it. I'm never using that. WGISS, ice arrow is completely optional an ocarina. Sounds like the boomerang. Maybe it's a dungeon that is boomerang and ice arrow. It's all just centered around those.

maybe one of my biggest requests and like obviously they would do this but I want to see those cutscenes bang like I want to I feel like if you're taking Ocarina cutscenes and bringing them in to 2026 standards I want them to feel epic voice acting feel cool

I mean you'll get like yells and shit yeah but it would be cool to like get a cast some really great talent out there I think it will rub a lot of people the wrong way man dude there's some great scenes there We're like, I mean, Matt Mercer is... You get that thing acted, man. It would be cool.

Yeah. It'd be cool, yeah. Mellofellow with a $2.00 superjet says, swap it to and kid and adult link with a button crazy? I mean, narratively, yeah. It would be like a ghost of Yote sort of swap. It had to be like a post game. You beat the game. You're back out in the world.

Now we'll let you do this. Well, no, because there's a whole dungeon designed around going back and forth between kid and adult link. Like in real time? Wait, which one? that? Mike, which one? It's the Garudo one,

right? Where it's like, you have to, like, go to the Garudo thing as an adult, and then you go back to the temple time to be a kid again, and then you go back to the Garudo temple to, like,

navigate, like, the first third of that as a kid. And then, like, it is a frustrating, like, thing where you have to, like, go out, do the transport thing to go back to the temple of time and then put the sword back in thing. I'm just recreating the whole Aaron Hanson bit where he's explaining all of this. And then he's,

he pops up links of the past, you hit button, you fucking bring up the mirror, and then boom, you're in the dark world. Like, what are we doing here? So, yeah. And, but with that being, like, the biggest one, it's one of those, like, I would love to see them play around a bit more with just, more than just one duncan, especially

because you two didn't even remember, like, that was an aspect. Like, I would love for them to play around more with, rather than just the Garudo temple, and then I think the well in, um, fucking Kakariko village or whatever. Yeah.

play around more with the time stuff, I think would be fun. What well? The well and Kakariko. Someone said I got stuck in the well. I'm trying to remember what happens in the well. You got stuck in the Golden Triangle. Zero SP with the Super Chat says, the fact of how empty Hyrule Field is by today's standards is that

Nintendo will modernize this game to some extent. Is that Nintendo? To what extent? I don't know, though. So that's zero XP. Again, yeah, I think it comes down to, is it a remake? Or is it, are you saying faithful to the original thing? or are you taking liberties and adding in new mechanics,

adding in new features, making it feel like a kind of a new version of the same thing? Because if you're being faithful, I don't think you touch it that much. I think you make it look a lot prettier. Maybe you do the thing where you might have more pedestrian traffic or something going on in Hyrule Field. But I think they're going big with this.

I mean, I think that'd be fucking awesome. I just don't, if it's coming out this year, like the rumors say it is, I think we would have heard about it already. This is just an HD texture pack? No, I don't think so.

You don't think so? Cababs and sheds. said, yeah, they imagine that this is going to be like Luigi's Mansion 2 or that was just a 3DS game that just got like spruce up a little bit and then ported to switch and so I imagine they think it's just like

the 3DS version. What makes you think they're going big with it? I look at their lineup and they also look at their lineup and say we need to fill some big holes and I think just putting out a prettier version of an old game. And I also don't think that they would bother remaking this

unless they were trying to reinvent it in some way. And especially like, yeah, when you think about with wanting to go big with 40th anniversary, like your Big Bang is really just going to be, yeah, like a slightly better version of the game that's already on. Guys, we're talking about Nintendo.

We know how bad Nintendo is with the anniversaries. Yes, I do think that. In fact, I think that's extra. Pizza bet? Pizza bet. Pizza bet. Let's get a pizza bet out. You believe it, Blanche.

That's like, well, like I don't totally dismal it. I, are they going to mess with perfection? They already have it down.

Just make it modernly look better. This guy's like to be on there. You make the pizza bit. You know what I mean? Why are we messing with perfection? You already got it. Just bringing up to the modern day

with some better looks, maybe some slight touches and that's it. Don't, don't change, don't change the formula. That's you. My thing is I would want them, I want them to do what Andy's talking about.

I just don't think they're going, to because again for what we're talking about the 40th anniversary and like all this shit right you would have had to have this plan like five years ago you would have had to have started this all very long time ago started like you think this like just started production like a year ago or something like i'm just wondering like i don't think this i don't i feel like we've been hearing about this rumored remake for a long time no but it was only rumored like a month ago like we've been no but that was the leak that was the that was nathan that was nith that was that was nith that was neat the hate i think saying that this is happening until then it's been us

being like, man, it'd be nice that they made a remake. I don't think it ever leaked. I think that was always us being hopeful. I don't think anything ever leaked until a month ago. I think everything until then was always a, the rumor mill. Burge Turpin out there. But I don't even think it was rumors.

Unless somebody can find me the link or find me something of like, this is where this came from. I think it was always us being like, man, it'd make a lot of sense if he remade the game. If he remade Ocarina. Tuesday of the Kingdom was, quote, complete in 2022. So we can, I could say they have, they've had four years.

And I don't even think that, I don't even necessarily know this is like the core tiers team. Like I, and that's my thing is I, well, got so many squads over there. And that's where I'm coming from, where I think if this isn't the core Zelda team,

how much, how bigger are we thinking that this is going to be, right? Like, I would then take that and go, well, I feel like you would just do a re-like, who's making it? Be it's my question.

All right, let's beat the bed. Let's be pizza bed. Let's be it. It's going to be. my bet is with the handshake it will be more than just an art artfully beautiful you know beautified version of ocarina time there will be more gameplay wise there there will be find more because i also think there is going to be like when you say a new dungeon i think that's possible i mean then that's not staying faithful then like if you're adding a new dungeon i

think of it okay i think of it as pome leaf green that i just played where you're going to bring it forward in terms of looks and visuals and stuff, but like Leaf Green, it's the same game, but they have some new things in there, but it's the same game. Same pathing, same solutions to things. A couple of remixed aspects here. But that's not saying traditional then. Because when you, the way you're talking about it

makes me think that it's almost like a reimagining of Ocarine at a time. No, I don't think that. I think they are, like, they will remix some mechanics from old dungeons. There will be new shit. there will be a high rule field will have a lot different things about it like it will not when you play it you won't go oh they didn't stick to the traditional version they didn't just make everything prettier they changed the way the inventory works they changed the way this work they they did a lot of stuff it's not quite final fantasy seven remake but it's not just links awakening type of thing right somebody says bless you can play ocarina on nintendo switch online this is a remake i get well I'm thinking of this almost like we're doing we're doing Zelda Ocarina

on 3DS again that's the way I'm looking at this Zelda Ocarina on 3DS is a straight-up remake I think they've done that I don't know I think they're doubling down on that I think they're making I think they're going all right let's do that but now it's on the switch too

and it looks even prettier okay that's the pizza bed all right bet that's the pizza bed I just think like especially with Nate the hate like if it was if it was that I don't know if the verbiage would be remake I don't know if the wording going around.

Didn't the, don't they call that a remake? Yeah, but I think if like, if that was stuff that was going around of like they're sprucing up the remake of the 3D, like the 3DS remake, I think that would be the thing that's swirling around.

Oh, I'm not even saying they're sprucing up the 3DS remake. I'm saying that it's going to be like the 3DS remake in terms of what they do to it. It's pretty, but it's the switch two version of what that would be. Andrew Rochester with a $5 superjet says, uh,

you said, do they bring it and you, dungeon, they should add the light dungeon that was cut from the original. I didn't even know that. I don't know that was a missing thing from the original that they cut. Cut content. That's really cool. A really cool opportunity.

Yeah, a lot of cool opportunities here. Mike, any final words about Ocarina of Time? I am truly blown away by this game. I cannot believe it came out in 1998 and playing in 2026 was an absolute blast. It stands the test of time. This being the highest rated rated medical. critic game on the website is like truly yeah this game rocks i had the absolute blast i'm all in for the ride and it was so good that i'm playing now major's mask hot off the heels of this i am in

on zelda right now i'm excited to see where my journey goes if i stop at major's mask and go that's enough or if i continue to venture down in the well and try new things but as of right now nintendo is getting me interested of like i'm into zelda now kebabs with one final scene which i'd ask. What control did Mike use? That's a great question. Two joy cons. Oh, I'm going to join the console. It's awesome. Plugged him right into the PC, huh?

Do you want to score it or do you not want to score it? Score it? Yeah, I'm not going to make you score it. I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not. I mean, if we were going to do it for Greg Miller, it's a nine, it's a nine. It's an exceptional video game. Oh, say it's a nine. You can say it's a nine. You can say it's a nine, nine. You don't have to be it. I'll do it for Andy. I'll do it for the first time before. You see a nine five.

It's 95. I like that. Exceptional. That's crazy. The 10 out of 10. Mike, get the fuck out of here. What do you mean at the 9.5? It's exceptional.

Zeldok arena. I'm excited to see what they do with Chapel Rhone. I was confused the whole time because I thought it was one chapel ron, the forest fairy, but it was multiple. Multiple. I would like to see a little bit difference here. I'm noticing that a Major's mask, she has different hair colors for each area, but maybe they were doing that an o'clockerina, I just didn't notice. But, like, every time I felt like, oh, she's just teleporting wherever I know. need her to be. And if it is,

oh, there are different sisters and she's different people, let's make that a little more clear for you. The fairy fountain music, my favorite music in Zelda period. Oh, yeah. Love that song. Yeah. Everybody, this has been the kind of funny games cast. Each and every weekday, we get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews,

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