Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Nintendo Switch Sports, Overwatch 2 Impressions - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: April 27, 2022

Bless played Nintendo Switch Sports! Andy played Overwatch 2! Greg played the sorcerer in the Sorcerer's Apprentice in, like, the fifth grade, but that's not important now -- VIDEO GAMES! Time Stamps - 00:00:00 - Start 00:03:14 - Housekeeping 00:07:26 - Nintendo Switch Sports Impressions 00:44:48 - Ads 00:47:57 - Overwatch 2 Beta Impressions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller, alongside Forbes 30 under 30, a.k.a. The future class of video games, aka the man with a broken knee, blessing at E. O. Ye, Jr. Are you the reason why people keep asking me if my knee's broken? Because I've been getting that a lot. Well, I'm not the reason. The reason would be that you, of course, Instagramed about your knee being hurt. And then I did mention on Games Daily. I didn't say it was broken. Right there, I said it. I said you hurt your knee. You hurt your knee limboing. Is that right? what I think I might have not not limbo it was the cha-cha slide it was the cha-cha slide I was doing yeah Gary gets the electric slide and I was like that's not right yeah I did do the electric slide sure you're not going to get hurt I could no I'm not going to get hurt but I would it could

been like I never so the need didn't hurt until after the wedding reception but like I I attribute it to the cha-cha slide because they have the part where they ask how low can you go and I went down very low I went so low where I was like hmm maybe maybe this is too low. But hey, I'm doing all right. I'm going to come back from this. And then post-wedding, I started to feel my knee like slowly, so I feel more pain as the night went on. And I was like, hmm, it was probably the cha-cha slide. But I did also do the electric slide. And there was also, there was a lot of saucing going on. Maybe you could have been that because there was a lot of knees involved in the salsa thing. But sure, I'm going to go with the cha-cha slide. I think that

did it. How is the knee now? Are you rehabbing it? Are you icing it? Are you letting it rest? Now it's good. There's like still slight feeling in there. But as a, We were, that, thank God. Yeah, I don't think you mean what you mean when you say that. Yeah, no,

like, I mean, I can't feel my knee, but also like, there's like a weird tension, like, like, like,

not phantom pain, not like MGS 5, but like there is like a pain, pain residue, great game. Um, quiet, only for the perves, Greg,

you know what I mean, only for the perves. Like Greg Miller, who played that game. You would know, you would know, you would know, all right?

You would know, all right. I got to get my mecks, better get newty. What if they're talking about Andy? I don't know. Yeah, I'd take off the thing to put on the thing. You know what I mean?

Like, you can't just go into a meck with clothes on. That's like putting on two layers. Now, we can all agree, though. We can all agree at the end of cyberpunk 2077. After we had all romance, Pan Am, and we had sex in that machine. That was cool, right? Oh, real cool. I didn't do that.

That was real cool, Andy. Stop the stream, just crank one out real quick. Jesus, God. Fucking, that was intense. As the night went on, like, I was probably up until, like, 2 a.m. By 2 a.m., I had to look back to my hotel room. Like, that's how much my knee hurt. And then, like, I took an Advil, woke up the next morning, and it was like magic where I just felt better all of a sudden.

And so, like, thankfully, it didn't just continue to inflame or whatever. Like, it got better. So I'm good now. My knee's not broken. Good. I was worried about you. I'm glad to have you back. It's good to have here.

Just like it's good to have the Hispanic heartthrope Texas treat Latino heat. Clicking heads and ripping them to shreds. The globe trotten. Head shoten. Nitro rifle from Twitch. Andy Cortez. Rejoice for he is risen. He is risen.

And again, the Nitro Rifle, Overwatch 2. Felt good, baby. Felt good. Andy has been playing a lot of Overwatch 2. Blessing has been playing Overwatch 2 as well. But more importantly, for one blessing will talk. He's been playing Nintendo Switch Sports. We're going to talk about all that and more

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Well, I guess the problem with it, Greg, is that you have to keep on typing in it every month. So that could be something you forget about. Just like with Amazon Prime, I think it resets every month or something like that. Interesting. Yeah, when I boot it up and had to put it in for this season of Fortnite, I thought it was because I hadn't played like, I thought something got updated like last season. I don't realize it was a monthly thing.

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But first, our topic of the show, video game impressions. Andy, you've played Overwatch 2. Blessing again, just for the sake of argument, you've played Nintendo Switch Sports. I want you to talk about both these games, but we will at the fate. You each get five minutes on the clock,

talking the exact time of time. Barrett will play the audio tracks backwards. I will have the fates decide. On here I have put a number between one and five. The person who guesses closest to it, guess to go first, blessing you're on the clock. I'm going to guess four because it's my favorite number.

I like that and I appreciate that. One to five, you can't pick four. Andy, what's your number? Three. I appreciate you being close to it, but ladies and gentlemen, Blessing's done it again.

Wow. There is. On the nose. Blessing. Tell me all about Nintendo. Switch Sports available this Friday, April 29th. So my impressions for Nintendo Switch Sports are going to be very light impressions because, like, as of now, right, as a reviewer, I've not had access to online.

I've been able to play locally the games and sports that are there. What that means is it seems like I don't have access to the bulk of the progression in the game because what I've learned playing the single player portions of Nintendo Switch Sports is that there's basically no progression, right? Like it is what it is. we sports, right? It is them bringing in new sports, removing some sports. Like, there's not, there's not baseball there's not baseball there's not baseball there's probably my favorite sport in original Wii sports. Home run. Yeah. But like, you know, you have tennis because you

got to have tennis. They have bowling because you got to have bowling. And then they have things like Shambara, which is like sword fighting. They have badminton, which is new, which plays a lot like tennis, but mechanically is a little bit different. And then they have volleyball and stuff. And soccer is a huge one, right? That's all six of them, right? Yeah. That's all six of the sports right there. The ones that you know, right, tennis and bowling play exactly the way you expect them play. Bowling, I don't think anything's really changed. Tennis is pretty much the same.

I think the thing that has made it interesting to play this time around is, like, one, it's HD, right? You get like the high definition, and that's even a step up from Wii sports because that came out on the Wii back in the day. So you get that, right? The nice 1080. But then you also have the Switch joycons, which in my head feel different than the, the memotes. And I wish I had, like, I wish I still had my Wii and a copy of Switch. these sports so I can like play him back to back. Because I swear to God, the joycon feels more accurate in a way where like it feels more

precise. Oh, I would hope so, right? I mean, that was the big thing. I remember the Wii moat was simulating so much of that. And eventually we had what they called the little adapter on the bottom that was supposed to make it more one. Yeah, the We Motion Plus. We Motion Plus.

Thank you so much. Yeah, remember. But I, so yeah, that was my main question for you. Even though you haven't gotten into the modes and stuff, I want to know how a JoyCon feels to it. And even, you know, Barrett's showing if you're an audio listener, one of the trailers over it. Did you do the thing? Earlier they showed, I saw getting strapped to a leg.

Did you play soccer that way? I did play soccer that way. Soccer is the only game that uses the leg strap. And it's not even the core soccer game. It is a game within soccer that uses the leg strap. Specifically, shootout, uses the leg strap. And I'm being honest, I don't think they needed to have this game in there. It is legitimately, it feels like a mini game of like, hey, if you want to go mono-me-mono against a friend.

Like, it's like a gimmick thing, right? put on the leg strap, you each take a kick at a time. But I think the thing that makes that mode fail for me is that, like, they don't really add in interesting, like, aspects to it, right? Like, bear showing it right here, where it is. Here's the big goal. Here's the big soccer ball because it's kind of like Rocket League with the big ball and, like, the small players, right?

And then, like, they launched the ball at you and you kick it. What I wish they did was add in targets or add in, like, change up the sizes of the goal or, like, add in some flare to it that makes it more interesting kick to kick because it really is, hey, each player gets five kicks, whoever scores more wins, and it's very basic. And I feel like that, I feel like that was kind of a lost opportunity. That said, I think the core soccer game, which plays like Rocket League, Rocket League mixed with actual soccer, because instead of cars, you have actual like human quote-unquote players, even though they're the sportsmates or whatever they're calling them, the me replacements. You have that, which is like, you can play

1v1 or 4V4, and that is more involved, right? That is more interesting. That has more layers to it. And it is the one sport in the game that has you use both joycons and you're playing it like an actual game, right? You're pressing the... So you're using the joystick to move your character here? Yeah, you're using the joystick to move your character. You're using one of the buttons to sprint,

using another button to like pass, like, yeah, you have actual mechanics there, but then also you are then swinging to actually kick, right? And so like, if you swing left, you do a left kick. If you swing right, you do a right kick, and that is determining the direction of the ball. That I had a bit of

with. Like I do like the soccer game. It's definitely not Rocket League. I think that's the difficult thing about it is that as I'm playing this, I'm like, I could be playing Rocket League because Rocka League is more involved. Rocket League has more flare. Rockily has the boost pads. Rockerly has the mechanics of driving around the car and like the the turbo. Like there's so much that goes on in Rocket League that makes it more mechanically interesting and makes it more involved compared to soccer in this, which feels like a very stripped down version of that. For what this package is, I think it's fine, but it's definitely not a, I don't play this and go, oh, man, I can't wait to work my way up the leaderboard in this. I go, all right, cool.

If I didn't have Rocket League or if I'm just looking for something to do in Wii Sports, then I'll play this with my friends. So, like, that's pretty much soccer. I don't know how much more of it I'm going to play it as of now. I will jump back in when they have online to see how that goes. But that wasn't one of the ones that really grabbed me. Question before you move on. This is an overall thing, but I want to make sure I understand. And when you're talking about online, do you know how that works?

Is it open lobbies, online leaderboards? Like I saw the debut trailer back when they announced this, but I haven't looked into it and I don't remember much about it. Yeah. So, like, right now for a single player, for what's available, right? Like, you jump in the game, you have three options. You have online, you have local multiplayer and then you have like single player, right? And it's basically like for the local menu, you jump in and it shows the six sports.

and you choose the one and you just get thrusted into the game. For online, I believe there is an online, like, walkable lobby that, like, you get thrown into and you are like, oh, you home's back, maybe it's Nintendo home now. Exactly. Like, you go into your Nintendo home and you're like, oh, shit, soccer's over there. I'm going to go hang out with soccer and key up with somebody, right? Okay. There's also, like, a ranked system. They have a cute name for it, but it's basically ranked where it is.

Cool. I'm going to work my way up the leaderboard, the tournament style, like record my progress, all that stuff. And then you also have earnable gear online where it is, you get cost. cosmetics, you get, like, new shirts, you get, like, I think new rackets and stuff, right? Like, you get all that stuff, which I, you can't get through offline, which I think is a big miss for this one. Like, if you're playing by yourself or you're playing with friends or whatever, you want to, like, get some sort of progression to it, unless you're playing online, it seems like that's just not an option. And so I'm very curious to see, like, if the online

stuff actually hits, like, Barrett's showing footage here now, right? And it is, like, I think you can get, like, new style, like, rackets, like, 10% brackets badminton rackets special balls for bowling uh stuff like that all that stuff seems like it's only available through online which it's cool for online of folks who want that uh care on the stick to keep on going and have something to do and have something to work for but then if you're playing offline or if you just feel like playing with friends it seems like it's very much like hey you have you're going to play this the way you played we sports back in the day which is you're just playing for the sake of the game you're playing for the love of the sport which granted like even we sports

had, I believe, like, the more you played a game, the more the more the difficulty would ramp up and they would show you like the chart of like, hey, you knocked out this boxer, now your difficulty is going up this much. They had that in original Wii sports. They don't even have that here. It is very pure like you're jumping into the sport, you're jumping back out and you're playing just for the sake of getting that experience of playing. That said, Andy Cortez, you have a question? Go for it. The stuff that you're unlocking is that, can you swap between either this new, this new fangled me, person or your old me, like the clothes you're unlocking, is it only for that person or only for

the current me or can you use them for both? That I'm not sure of, because I've not gotten the chance to mess around with that. But it seems like I do want to shout out the, I think I believe they're called sportsmates. I want to shout it to the sports mates because I do like the design of them. We too. They feel like me's brought into the future. You don't have as much customability with the sportsmates as you do with the, with the me. Because I remember like, I remember back in the day like my, I would play, uh, we with my cousins and like they'd go through and they would make all our family members. And like, I remember they made, they made my uncle and it was like perfectly him. It was spot on. Like he had his eyebrows, his eye, like everything looked exactly

like him. You do not have that level of depth to the character creator. Yeah, like they don't have that here with the, with the sportsmates. But they do look nice, right? And like, yeah, I do think they have style. And I do like the, the clothing that they give them for the default clothing. Um, that said, I have no idea like if you earn a shirt, if that shirt will be interchangeable within me. For stuff like rackets and for stuff like sports gear, I have to imagine that yes. Like that stuff has to be interchangeable because that is separate from what the design of the character is.

That is like the thing you're holding, right? The sword, the racket, the bowling ball. I think that stuff will have to translate. As far as like actual wearable gear, I have no idea. But yeah, like back to the sports. So far, made it through soccer. My apologies. We're asking too many questions.

Yeah. So like soccer's cool. And yeah, it does feel like the one that has like the most. stuff going on to stuff going on in it mechanically that said it doesn't feel like one that at least for me that I want to go back to you like it feels still basic

in that and like we sports I think the reason why we sports worked so well is that we sports was so basic but it was so basic that anybody can jump in and anybody can have fun and anybody can like feel like you are playing tennis or like you know think about how they want a bowl and all that stuff soccer feels like it's in that

in between space of being very basic but then like having that added layer of, of, like, you know, you have the, the, the different ways to swing. You have the diving headers. You have a sprint mechanic. You have, like, enough stuff there that I think makes it not as accessible if I was to get my dad to jump into Nintendo Switch Sports or something like that. Tennis does have that, right?

Tennis had that before. Tennis still has that. Tennis is still tennis. The only different thing is playing with the joycons. I feel like, even though the joycons, I think, are more precise, it somehow feels more difficult, which I think is actually a good thing. Like, it feels like it's way more based on the actual timing of your

back swing or your front swing. And, like, I feel myself getting sweaty, like, playing tennis on hard than that against the computer, right? Like, it feels like an actual, like, fuck man. Like, this game is actually hard. Like, I can't figure out how to, like, get past, uh, get past the, the computer. Um, and it's a stark contrast actually to badminton.

Because badminton works mechanically the same way, right? Obviously, it's bad. rules and so like you're not bouncing out the floor and anything like that but for badminton it's first to five and where tennis feels so much about timing and hitting your hits accurately and trying to get what's right between the back hand and the forehand bad badminton feels like it's more about the precision of where you are placing the ball right like i think there is more freedom of excuse me where you're playing the shuttle cock the shuttlecock sorry yeah yeah the shuttle the the shuttle Thank you, Greg.

Thank you. It does feel more. I took, and first off, I appreciate the excellent pronunciation from one blessing. Because I just called badmitten. You know what I mean? I know, I know there's a T in there, but I just don't care. Well, I call tennis Goodman. What?

Yeah, that's really good. That's really good. Cock Andy. Great job. Great job. But I took the badminton class in gym class. I remember certain things. Yeah.

But yeah, there's like a precision to badminton that feels like you have a bit more control than tennis. and it feels meant for that, which I like. And so, like, you know, in the flow of the back and forth of badminton in this game feels a bit more, feels different from tennis, where tennis is what it was, right?

Badminton in this game feels a bit more, the more you go, the more opportunity there is to, like, get that perfect strike on your opponent where it is you are spiking the ball and, you know, your opponent dies to where it gets like the imperfect hit that lobs the ball up

and then that sets you up for another spik, bike and your opponent can't get back up because they're on the floor from the last dive, right? Like, you're thinking about it in that way. They're dead. They're fucking dead. Plus, how do you move around? Are you using like the left stick on one JoyCon to move your character and then the right one to waggle?

No. In badminton, it works exactly like tennis where you aren't moving your character at all. And tennis is still the same way from Wii sports where you're not moving at all. Ali is moving you in place. AI is moving you into place. And yeah, it is more, again, it is about timing and it is about. like how you're swinging the motion to actually like get got it um the good swing and get the good hit in volleyball you can move yourself right volleyball volleyball not talked about yet and like it's

funny because all these sports feel like they are in when you think of like motion games like these feel like similar versions of themselves volleyball does feel very distinct right because it is working off of the like um uh fuck what do they call it the bottom hit this yeah the set certain no set is the one with like the hands up serve there's like there's like the bottom hit there's the set and then there's the spike. I can't think what the bottom hit is called. But it is working off of that same flow where it is 2 v2. You see the ball,

the ball gets served to you. You are doing the bottom and like bounce, right? And like it based on on who is position where, and the game very much makes it clear like what turn it is, right? If you are the person that's getting that bottom hit, right? They tell you and you are setting up for that. And then if you are the person getting the set, right? Like you had to have that level of teamwork and back with your teammate that works for volleyball.

Passed. Pass. This is pass. Okay, yeah, the past. I thought for sure we had dead to rice wrong on that one, but no. My sister played volleyball back in the day. I know all the terminology except for what a pass is. But yeah, like you have that level of back and forth with your teammate that I think makes it fun. And then you can't actually control your character.

I believe your character also controls themselves. But if you are wanting to, if you're winning position, right, like you can see it in your opponent's eyes that they want to go for the right. You can preset it so that like you are inch and toward that way. you're just moving the analog stick, right? You can basically position yourself is what I mean, right? And so, like, volleyball I've had a lot of fun with for that. Like, I think it is out of the new stuff, probably my favorite sport. I've not talked about Shambara, which is sword fighting.

And that feels like an iteration of what they had. They had a similar game in Wii Sports Resort. It feels like more of that. The way they've twisted it this time around is that they have three different swords that you can choose from. They have the regular sword. They have the charged sword. Then they have the two-hand.

sword, which is just two swords in your hand, right? And each of them have their own mechanics to them. The way it works is basically you are trying to deplete your opponent's health and or knock them off the stage by getting hits on them in a direction that they're not blocking, right? And so it's like horizontal hits get blocked, right? Whereas the parallel lined up hits

actually get the hit on your opponent. And so it is you trying to use the motion to like get that perfect thing. One I look at, and it, like, you know, not the charge sword or the new swords or anything, but the actual gameplay looks so much like what we've seen before from the Wii Sports Shambaro. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It does feel like that. I think the thing that probably is the new thing is the different swords. Sure. You know, I found this one fun. And I think this is the one where the accuracy of the Nintendo Switch joycons, actually really does come into play. They do the thing where they're like, okay, hold the thing vertical, then press the button to then reset it because it is all based off of the gyro motion. to like a sensor or anything like that, like the Wii Motion Plus was. And if it plays the way it's supposed to play, right?

Like, it feels good. It's the first few matches I did with it. I was like, okay, cool. Yeah, this is fun. It's one that, again, I don't know if I'm going to come back to it to play it in single player. I do want to play it for online to see, like, how sweaty people get and see like, all right, I can see myself playing this against Andy and being like, all right, like coming down

to the wire. Like, both of us are like reading each other's moves and, like, trying to figure out how to block each other. It seems like it might be fun for that. but yeah like overall in terms of my Nintendo Switch Sports experience like it's cool like if I if I was score right now like I and this is without online and I'm very I'm kind of hesitant to even say a score because I I'm not going to consider this my final review this is very much a review in progress because of the lack of online any put it in the official minutes of this meeting this is not a final review this is a review in progress

this is a review in progress I would give it a three out of five as of now without playing online just playing the games seeing how iterative it is from original Wii sports and Wii Sports Resort. Yeah, like I think I imagine with progression with actual playing actual players, which of course are going to play differently from computers, I think that's going to bring some to it. But I wonder how much it's going to bring to it, right? I wonder how much I feel compelled to go back and get the progression and earn gear

and do all these things. And then also, like, when they add golf, how much is that going to bring, right? Like, I think golf is the one sport where that's the one that I can't wait to sit down and, like, actually playing most player with you guys and go through. nine courses or 18 courses and see how that goes and actually do online progression stuff and unlock maybe um uh new um fucking clubs they call the clubs thank you i was like i was going to say bats uh you unlock the new club right like go for did they mention anything bless about uh you know about golf i know they mentioned kind of in that first reveal that it was going to be in fall or

October or something like that. Do we have any more specific specificity? Specificities. No, we don't. We don't. I thought it was supposed to be sooner than that though, right? I thought it was supposed to be like the summer. Fall is though what I thought it said. This fall is what it says right here. I didn't realize it was that far away. First off, I, like, I think this game looks gorgeous. And I get

maybe I'm just used to, you know, again, I always shit on Mario Golf and how much I hated the look of that. But even just the vibe of a lot of what Barrett has shown us so far gives me a lot of knockout city vibes visually. Super bright, colorful, fun. I think a lot of that comes from these sort of sports, what are they called?

Not the we, not the me's, but the... The sportsmates. Yeah, the sportsmates. I just think they look so much fun and I think visually they've kind of nailed the aesthetic that they're going for. Yeah, this looks like a lot of fun, man. I'm super stoked for it. I think this will make for

great streams. Like we could do like some cool tournament streams and stuff like that. Get really exhausted on stream standing up. My stand up desk, Greg, you know? Yeah, you know. It looks really pretty. So that's, you gave it a three out of five. Not a final review score, but that's right now okay. Thank you very much, Bear, for putting that back up. Not final, but okay. What does that mean to you right now? Is it that you're, are you compelled to come back to this game? Do you think online will offer you enough that you're to be like, oh, I'm really into this and I want to keep going? Right now, I'm out of, I hope so.

I think if online wasn't a thing and I was left with what I've been playing for the last few days, I'd be like, cool, I think I'm done. Like, I might come back for golf and play that for a day or two, right? Or I might even come back for bowling because I didn't have, I didn't do much with bowling because I, like, I did a couple rounds and I was like, this is exactly the same. This is bowling, yeah, like, this is that, right? But it seems like it would be a fun when I have with friends, right? if you have a switch and you're bringing friends over and they're like, yeah, do you feel like playing bowling?

I haven't played Wii bowling in a minute. Like, okay, cool, let's do it. Right? It seems like one of those. But it's one that for me playing single player in my room, right? I am like, there's nothing for me here as of now with no, with without the progression of online. I do think online is going to bring some to it. But I, I'm in wait and C mode.

You know, it is nice to see it in HD. It is nice to see it with like some more pretty environments. and I do like the sportsmates aesthetically. I will say I wish it brought more in terms of soundtrack. The one like dope song in here is a remix of the Wii Sports theme and it plays when you're out back in the menu. But yeah, I feel like there's quite a few missed opportunities for even stuff like that to add more life into it.

My question then becomes this. I think it's unfair to compare it directly. And I mean, obviously we should for gameplay-wise, but in terms of like presence and staying power, I think it's unfair to compare it to Wii sports. obviously we sports was a fucking moment in time if you lived it right the Wii was completely different it was that game of course that anybody came to your house they could pick up that Wii moat and they could be bowling and having a great time and then it inspires countless families and I mean

parents and you know dads and moms and grandmothers and grandpaws and nursing homes exactly well no they were done they were burned up yeah to go get it and play at home right so I don't think it's fair to compare that what I would ask for a more apt comparison contemporary wise did If you were to have been working it kind of funny, what would you have scored 1-2 Switch? I never played 1-2 Switch. Oh, interesting. God, you guys call yourself fucking. I mean, they didn't bundle that shit.

You got to bundle that shit. They should have bundled it. You worked here, though, Andy. We had a copy. Why didn't you ever play with us? No, I didn't work here. No, you did. Didn't you?

No, I mean, at the launch of Switch, no, I was still at Rusher Teeth. But you came, like, right after it. Like, you were here, like, a month later. Yeah, it was like a month later. People stopped talking about One-Two Switch, like three days after the Switch came out. Thank you, Bear. That's why I like you on this show. That's my thing about it, where One-Two Switch was a game that I think a lot of people picked up, tinkered with, okay, whatever, and then put down until they had people over.

I was cleaning up my phone because I have too many, I have, like 70,000 photos on it. How many ice cubes? Exactly. Exactly. There's four ice cubes. Can you get the baby to sleep? Can you do the, can you shoot things really? real quick.

Fuck the baby. And it's that thing I was going through and I found photos of me and Jen and and Scott Lowe and Neil Druckman playing it at the house one night. And it was that thing of like, I remember, I was like, why do we play one two switch? And I was like, oh, well, they came over and I think we were reviewing all this stuff. It's so brand new. Like, you know what I mean? Nobody.

And so that was the thing of there's that video of me playing the one two switch shooting game against Kajima, right? Like there was those moments of it, but one two switch was such a coffee table book. You know what I mean? Not one you fucking read and had it. anything to do with it. It was just something that was there and then maybe somebody booted it up to play for like five or ten minutes and then you put it down. You put it near the monopoly that you bust out once every year and a half. Don't fucking talk shit about monopoly, all right?

Stupid ass game, dude. Get to a real fucking house. Come over here for some shrimp scampy and I will play some Monops with you, all right? And we will have a great time and you'll see. And by the way, Mike still complains that you knew more about him in Monopoly, even though he said that he knew how to play. And he was like, suddenly Greg's mortgaging things. Like, he's cheating. He's doing. You should mortgage a monopoly. What a clown. You know what I mean?

That's another guy. Anyways, though, my question is if we get out for the bit for a second. And thank you, Barry, for that great B-roll of me and Kujim. The question becomes, do you think that's the future for this? Is there going, is Nintendo Switch sports going to have a thriving online or a lengthy, like, life, like in any way, shape, or form beyond just like something people get, have fun with for a night or two and then put down? Is it going to be something that you could see, uh, couples, roommates, whatever, having like, oh, it's bowling night.

We bowl these nights or whatever. Like, is it going to be a standing thing that way? I, I find it hard to imagine so. If it was, if it was like a $10 thing or a $20 thing, then I'd be more along the lines of like, oh, maybe I could see it, right? The price is going for, for the digital version is $40. And I would not pay $40 for what I've been playing. It doesn't, it just doesn't feel full enough or compelling enough or new enough in a way

that gets me excited to play it. It feels like more of what we've gotten before. It reminds me of like, Wii Sports Resort. When We Sports Resort came out, right? Like, they came out alongside the Wii Motion Plus, but like, how often do we talk about We Sports Resort? How often do we talk about,

we, what was it? I think it was Wii Sports Club that came out for the Wii U. WeU had a sports game that I don't think anybody remembers or anybody talked about it. I want to know what he cared about the Wii. Yeah, that's true.

That's very true, actually. A big part of that is the fact that the Wii was a failure. But I think there is something of, not even something, right? I think the way that the, that Switch Sports slash Wii Sports is set up, right? It is meant to be this basic thing. It is meant to be like this ease of access, get in, play a sport, get out. Cool. This is a game that you play when you have people over and you're looking for something to do.

Right. And like the Wii sports, we have such good memories of it. And I think that is partly because it is, you know, it's almost surprising how good Wii tennis was, how good the baseball game was, right? How good Wii bowling was and how well all those hit for like all the different family members that came through in bottom and play them. But like, I'm just thinking of the baseball mean

and nice cock. I just think of Doc all the time. I love it. I love that one. But yeah, like that I felt like with such lighting the bottle because motion controls were new because it was packaged in with the Wii, right? Like if this was packaged in with the Nintendo Switch,

I think that would be a different story. I think that would see it had that same level of like, oh shit, like this is here. It's at the launch. Like there are five launch games to play. This is one of them. Let's call Timmy over. It would be like one to switch. It'd be like one to switch.

But even one two switch, I think, burnt out because it was something you have to buy. And this is something you have to buy in something that's coming out in the midst of many other games, right? There's already a switch library. Mario Strikers is coming out in like a couple of months. And that's going to, I think, directly compete with it to some extent. I find it hard to find this game. lasting the rest of the year, or even lasting, even like a few months, right?

I think golf is going to bring people back for like maybe a little bit, maybe a couple of days. I think online, again, I think that might bring people in longer than it would have before because of their earnable gear. I think you will see maybe a couple weeks

of people being like, ah shit, look at this new tennis racket I just earned, but I don't, it's hard for you to think of this game, like us talking about this game and let's say June or July. Yeah. I've been raising my hands

like a goddamn madman. But you did it like you were trying to Praise Jesus. I wasn't sure if you were just excited about golf. What's the question? Everybody, Barrett, stricken from the record. Strike it from the record. Write it down for the record.

Pizza bet time. Oh shit. I love a good pizza bet. This game will explode. Oh. It's going to be huge. This game will explode. With the amount of units out in the world of Switch,

with the amount, with what social media can do, with the amount of people that know that Wii sports was such a gigantic thing, but nobody has a Wii anymore. Like, people will still play Wii games when they have get-togethers, and they will still play Wii sports, and this is the brand new version of that, and everybody has a goddamn switch now. I think, and with people feeling more and more comfortable going over to people's houses and having parties and get-togethers, I think this game will explode. The inverse of Animal Crossing, which, of course, is going to be big to begin with, but we all got

locked in because of COVID. Not that far, Barrett. It's just a giant thing. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. No, okay. If you're an audio listener, Barrett has written Switch Sports

will be the new Mario Cardi Chalk from the record. But that does come in. So let's, what do you mean explode? And I think we know, obviously you keep talking about, but are you willing to put,

are you like I have the, you know, top whatever, this list is of Nintendo Switch software. Do you want to try to put it on there? You think somewhere? Um, is it going to be a thing? I think that this will be much bigger

than One-2 Switch because One-2 Switch wasn't a newer version of a Wii Sports. Like, I think when Greg talks about how One-Two Switch came and went, it wasn't necessarily trying to be a newer version of that. I think if anything, One-Two Switch was Astro's Playroom on PS5. Let's show you the new gimmicks and what this hardware can do while still being interactive in some way.

I think we, I think this new version of Wii Sports or Switch Sports, whatever the fuck they're calling it, will, I just see this take. off on like social media somebody's gonna throw a fucking switch remote into their goddamn TV again like it's all just gonna happen again time is a flat circle um right now i'm not gonna say this will do numbers like we sports because obviously that was a package into uh game but i do think this will do numbers and sort of hit an npd of like a top five of the month okay okay i i think that's probably i mean that's probable right in terms of what's coming out this month i think that's

probably. I think the more interesting thing is how it does in the million range. Because the switch has the switch effect where any big Nintendo IP that comes out on the switch is like the best it performs out of its franchise, right? Like you look at Metroid dread, you clip Red, you look at Mario Odyssey, you look at these games all have this

magical effect in terms of success because of the switch and because of how sticky the switch is in terms of user base and how much the user base loves to buy Nintendo games but then also how many Switch hardware units are out there. In terms of the actual numbers like in million range how much Nintendo Switch Sports will do.

If I had a guess, I'd say 4 million. Okay. So, Dredd is two, right? One two Switch is at, right now, according to Wikipedia, is a list of best-selling Switch games. One-two Switch is at number 25 with 3.18 million sold. Now, that's as of December 2019.

So, I mean, that's clearly not going to be, you know, update. Metro Dredge did 2, right, I believe, around 2-ish. I think when you don't my like first month yeah like I mean not maybe not the first month but just I think lifetime um I remember when we were doing trade currently on this has 2.74 million sold as of October I'm sorry December 2021 I'm going to say okay so since October that's been what eight months ish no uh six months ish yeah six October I'm going to say like in the first six months this new I don't even know the goddamn game is called. Nintendo Switch Sports.

Nintendo Switch Sports will do, I'm going to say 6 million. Wow. 6 million or plus. I just think it's going to have that sort of effect. And again, like you've already mentioned blessing. There's a lot of switch units out there in the wild. People are always looking to buy new things. And if they hear that this is the newer version of the game that they all loved,

playing with friends, and I think it's going to be that sort of thing as well. Not only just party games, but let's get active again. sort of thing. I mean, I hope so. Like the one thing that makes me not double down on like me being like this game isn't going to hit is the fact that I've not, I've not, I've not gotten to try online yet. I could see going into online and then playing with people and going, damn, this is a good time. Like us turning this into a stream game of let's all kick back and play golf or let's all kick back and play bowling.

Yeah. And that actually turning it around and being a, oh shit, okay, this is what this needed. This is the next step of switch sports. But I do you think, right, just playing the games themselves, getting to play the, the, the sports. it does feel barren and it does I feel like there's a loss there's a lot of lost opportunity in terms of them making the sports what they can be especially with it launched with just six compared to resports resort that had like a lot more I feel like the six should be a lot tighter and a lot more dynamic and more interesting and engaging than they are it just it does feel like

they they could do more like soccer especially where I'm like dude like Rocky League exists and this is what you brought out like I just I don't I, like, that, that's kind of where I stand with it, but I could see online progression and stuff maybe igniting some excitement around it. Would you find yourself comparing it lesser Rocket League if the soccer ball was smaller? No, probably not. I mean, I think it is the, part of it is the perspective. And then also you, like, having the, like, the big goal. Like, so much of it is leaning into what made Rocket League, Rocket League.

It is you being the singular player. And, like, coordinating, coordinating, yeah, I can't talk. coordinating with your teammates and being like hey you you play defense on this run I'll take ball like you play mid and like having like like like fall guys kind of like fall fall fall fall fall fall fall a little bit like rock league essentially right like you being on the field at that level and it being this bigger field it being this arcade thing um the soccer sport very much leans into that and like is is going for that and I just don't I don't think it nails it completely like there it is it is it is slower it is you know less bombastic it is it is

You're going to spend a lot of time off ball. Like, you are going to spend a lot of time using stamina and running out of stamina and either standing still or slowing down to try and regain stamina versus Rocket League, where you are, like, constantly on the go. Even FIFA has more stamina than this game, right? Like, it is a slow soccer game that I found hard to get into. I guess I don't necessarily see it, Greg, as being this game that people are going to try to, you know, get insanely good at and playing all.

online and lobbies and I don't see it as that sort of serious of a game I see it as like this evergreen type game just like we sport sure no I can totally I can totally envision that yeah six months from now seven months from now eight months from now people will have another get together and like let's play Mario party cool we did that what next sports like I feel like it's going to be one of those games that just kind of exists as an alternative to families getting together playing board games that sort of thing sure yeah sure make an old granny like do the boxing or whatever the fuck and do the sword fighting and then We're laughing at Granny.

She's on TikTok. We're laughing at Granny. And she because of gigantic celebrity, Greg. Huge celebrity. Wow. And then she dies. And then she gives her will to the kids. I'm just trying to like spitball here.

I would put it more in the category of like the latest warrior wear that came out. And like not that warrior wear is in terms of IP name like as big as we sports. But in terms of that's a warrior wear game for a franchise that is beloved, right? People love warrior. This is the definitive like warrior wear game on Switch. Granny's love warrior wear. Grannies love warrior wear. It was the last time you've heard people bring up the last warrior wear game.

That came out last fall. And I think about a month later, like it was kind of done. Even like Super Mario, not Super Mario Party, the latest Mario Party, maybe that is. No, Superstars. Mari Party superstars, right? Like that even came and went too for a Mario Party game. Granted, like I think that one I imagine, like if you look at the sales or if you look at user base, it is probably still active to some extent.

But I would view this more along the lines of that tier, if even that tier of Nintendo title, that will come out the people that want it, want it, and they play it. And then, like, they're done with it in a month, right? Or they're done with it for however long it takes for them to get the gear they want and play the games they want. Like, it feels like that. Like, I would be shocked in five months from now. Like, we're thinking about Switch sports.

I would be shocked even, like, Game of the Year season. Like, it comes up in any category except for Best Family Games. And I want to be a different conversation. I don't think, we're talking about popularity and staying power in a coffee table book and something you put on with your friends. I don't necessarily think that's game of the year. For sure, for sure. Yeah, shocked.

I also think I'm just talking about like conversations. Like in terms of like, oh, what games did come out this year? I think Switch sports will be a hard one to even, uh, to come up unless you are like, okay, what were, well, those every game that Nintendo released. Oh, yeah. Fuck, Nintendo Switch came out or Swiss Sports came out this year. I think the way we tear through games, though, it's always kind of unfair for, for, for games like this.

Like we kind of just move on to the next thing because that's the nature of the business or whatever. I also don't know, like with the comparisons to Mario Party and WarioWare, like Warrior Aware was never that big, right? Mario Party has been kind of, was on the decline for a very, very long time and like kind of came back with the Switch and stuff like that. Well, yeah, remember Super Mario Party did really well. It was just then they put out the next version of it.

Like Super Mario Party is currently the seventh best selling Switch a game on this list, 17.39 million. Yeah, and so, like, I could see what Andy's saying of, like, you know, it's going to do gangbusters here and stuff like that with the nostalgia factor of we sports, but then on the other side where we're kind of, like, blessings at, like, this is going to be a good test to see if, like, was we sports a lightning in the bottle moment that can't be recreated, you know? Yeah, I think the thing is $40. Like, that's kind of where I come back on is how many people are going to buy this game for $40?

If we sports resort was like a mega hit coming off of Wii sports, then I'd be like, oh yeah, for sure, like this is going to take off. But it's not like we sports resort had the like the same level of success that the original Wii sports had, right? Like the Wii sports game on Wii, granted Wii, but also that's one that we forget even existed. I don't know. I think Wii Sports has that IP power, the brand power in terms of something that lives in

our brains is something we have nostalgia for and like was a moment, right? but I don't think it has, and this is like far from my review anyway. Like, I don't think it has a sales power. I don't know if it has like the $40. I'm going to fork that up to play these six very small games with friends that I may or may not have come over. Okay. But we'll see. We will see.

Blessing, I want to report next week when the servers are on if that did anything for you. Okay, you got you make, you pencil that in? All right, great. I'm passing in. For now, he's gentlemen. No, I put it in the record, Andy. That's back to you. You got to put that back in the minutes.

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Because Overwatch 2 beta began today. Blessing me and Snowback Mike were able to play today on the Kind of Funny stream. And that video will be up on YouTube.com slash kind of funny plays. It's a fun time. Overwatch 2 is a largely very, very similar game. A lot of people will be like popping in a chat. This looks the same. What's different about it?

Overwatch 2 has moved from a 6V6 format to 5V5 format. there are no longer two tanks, two damage, two heels. It is now one tank, two damage, two heels. And that's to alleviate a lot of issues. Sometimes these play spaces can get really messy. Sometimes heals. The healers kind of have too many targets to try to heal. And also, not a whole lot of people want to play tank.

So this sort of alleviates a lot of issues of making the player cues a lot shorter. luckily there's a lot of really cool reworks with a lot of different heroes today we got to play the brand new hero sojourn who is a character who has kind of like an automatic rifle and the more she shoots it and connects with her target it charges up a beam then you can right click to hit like a really strong beam snipe and it's really dope she has awesome mobility she's really fun they i think that's the lighter side of the content a lot of people are like how many heroes are there's only one new hero sojourn. Aside from that, that's the 33rd hero, right? Yeah. Yeah, 33rd hero, but a lot of heroes got really

drastic reworks. There's a hero named Orisa, and I've always fucking hated Arisa, and I hated when she was the meta to play, because it's like, I know you want me to pick her because she's the strongest, but she's boring as all hell. And now she's fun as hell. They upgraded her kit, and she's super mobile. She's got really cool abilities now. She has this speaker that you can like just chuck at people and it sticks in their body she uh exactly gregg exactly i need a heel she has this thing where she spins like a fucking sword and she like bless he was getting fucked up by erisa's all day i was like i've never i've never like cared about erisa like usually when i think about the the overwatch characters that i hate

playing against it is like it is may and then it's like genji but today i risa made an enemy out of me today and i'll fuck this and gregg i'll i mean i'm happy to announce here I made a lot of enemies as Eresa today because I was popping off on ERISA. I had a fun time. I'm so happy she's fun to play because that just adds one extra tank character that feels viable and feels fun. A lot of times when meta changes, when the meta's change in Overwatch and it's like, well, if you pick anybody but these two players as tank, you're throwing the game. And that's like, well, they're not fun to play, but I guess I'll play them.

You kind of feel cornered in that area. and I'm so glad that they newer tank players are, newer tank characters are more fun to play now. Overall, there's been a lot of sweeping changes, like support characters who are the healers of the group, all have a gradual heal where they kind of gradually heal themselves over time. So you don't always have to feel like the healers have to heal each other. You're constantly kind of being healed anyway.

There are new modes. There's a new mode called Push, where there's like a little robot guy. He's really cute, Greg. He kind of stands in the middle of the field. Sure. And when you get to him, you push him towards their side. It's like a tug-of-war match.

And if they kill you and they push in towards your side, that's pretty, that feels pretty action-packed, although I felt like once it gets a little too one-sided, it's probably over. It's so hard to come back, yeah. Yeah. You're likely not really going to come back. However, there's a lot of new maps.

There's a Toronto map, which is gorgeous. snowy, really cool. The New York map, awesome as hell. It's a hybrid map where you unlock the payload, then you push the payload. New York. Yeah, great music. New York, yeah, great music.

But New York just has a really cool visual look, and I think Overwatch has always killed it with their aesthetics and having this sort of unified art direction. Visually, not a whole lot has changed. I don't feel they have an upgraded version of the engine they've been running on, and it looks a bit cleaner, I'd say,

but nothing too drastic. like ray tracing or anything like that. Plus, you want all the frames you can get. So you always kind of have your visual settings set pretty low anyway. But yeah, there's a lot of new maps, new modes, and again, only one new hero, but about five different heroes got complete reworks to where they operate in a completely different way, whether they wanted to push away or pull away, Greg, from like what they called the Shieldwatch era. where shield watch two tanks would just get two shield characters and it's like when you're the other team we're just shooting shields and it's so unfun and it just feels stagnant in a way so really the only character with a shield now is reinhart the big guy with the big shield and the hammer and a lot of the other characters who had shields no longer have them it just it just feels a lot faster it feels a lot more brawley right bless yeah like you mentioned while we're streaming that there's a lot more like moments for heroes to like have their like

moments for heroes to have their moment, right? Like those hero moments where it is, oh shit, there's a Reaper play. Oh shit, there's this play. Like XYZ thing is happening. In the way that it was before, where it was the 6V6, like two tanks to heels, too whatever, I think it was real easy for things to feel unmanageable

and for tanks to have, to like dominate, like, whatever is going on, right? And all focused to be on that. Whereas now for the matches we were doing, we were playing like it's 212, right? So like two healers, two attack. and then a tank. And with me and Mike playing healers, I was playing Mercy,

he was playing Baptiste, I found way more space to feel like I was making a difference, right? And I know Mike felt like he was making a difference and he was killing it, right? And like I, like for the one tank that is vital because I found that if you can get the tank down, you can get the rest of the team down. And so now tanks,

the one tank you have on your team does feel way more vital than ever before, but it's not a game that is being dominated by tanks. So that makes sense. And then of course, like, DPS has a DPS, right? And so like I really like the changes. I like how much more space it feels like you have on a map in terms of managing what's going on, especially as a healer, right?

As mercy, you can kind of see where your four teammates are. And it almost does, it feels like you are playing a strategy. You're not suffocated, really. And you're not suffocated. You're not scrambled. You're not like, all right, I got to jump here. I got to jump here. I got to jump here.

I am like, cool. I'm going to focus in on our tank. Now I'm going to focus in on E&D as our attack and like make sure he's good. And it does feel a lot easier and a lot more strategic. Or at least you have the ability, I think, at a lower level to feel that level of strategy that you wouldn't have unless you were playing at a way higher level. And so I like that too. Yeah. A big, I think a big criticism that people have of it is that it just kind of feels like a 5V5 Slayer mode now.

And that is pretty deliberate on Blizzard's part because Overwatch was a significant. 6 v6 game that required a lot of teamwork. And I think it reminds me almost like evolve, Greg, where it's like in an ideal world, everybody's down to play these roles and be super strategic and be with their teammates and on comms and everything. And over time, I feel like people just aren't on voice chat anymore. People are maybe it's just me and bless with four randos. And you're not necessarily always trying to make the best team.

play you feel like you're one of six players just kind of for themselves trying to survive and a lot of what these changes are doing is to make to make yourself not feel like you need to be running with four other people in order to be successful so a lot of times when you join up against other players and if you're playing against a five stack or a six stack it's like they're all on comms that's a group of friends we're going to get our shit kicked in because it's only me and blessing and four the randos, we're not going to, obviously, they're way more coordinated than we are. So my question becomes this is, I've been listening to you guys go and you're talking about, you know, the move from 66 to 5 to 5, fixing, so fewer tanks, since people don't like to play

as tanks, hero reworks. Does this feel like something that could have just been an update to Overwatch 1? Like in our, like, aside, I guess, you know, a sub question of that is like, the hero reworks you're talking about. Are those exclusive to Overwatch 2 or are those in Overwatch 1 now as well. Those will all be, those will all be sweeping changes. If you have Overwatch 1, you will have access to Overwatch 2 multiplayer. The Overwatch 2 single player component is going to be the one that kind of, you have to buy or whatever. I don't, I don't think so, Greg.

And I think initially I was like, why not just, why not just update it, right? It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to put a new number on it. And a lot of times companies do that because, you know. You want to sell. Yeah, sales and, you know, when you talk about the end of the quarter sort of reports and all that sort of stuff, I think that changing Overwatch 1 from 66 to 5V5 would have just gathered a lot of hate. And it still didn't gather a whole lot of love from the community. But I think making it a brand new, a brand new game in quotes, right, and putting a number on it makes it feel like the 5V5 change is a little bit more acceptable because it's a brand new. product as opposed to like, hey, this game

Overwatch, you've been playing your whole lives? Guess what? It's 5V5 now. It's like, what the fuck? You just can't do that. Like, Cod isn't going to go from 5V5 to 4V4 in the same patch. They're going to come out with a new game to maybe change that. So I feel like the number change

is super vital only for the 5V5 portion of it. Everything else feels like they could just be patched, you know? I think it's vital in the way that this feels like the biggest update slash we work that the game has ever gotten. And like there are a lot of people in chat that were asking like, all right,

what's do about this? This looks like Overwatch 1. Like, you know, it looks like the same thing. But I view the two on it as less of a, this is Overwatch 2, a brand new game. And I view it more as a, this is Overwatch 2.0. Like this is the next step of Overwatch in terms of making it feel like something that's brand new and fresh and making it feel like a, hey, we're taking the thing that already works and fixing all these problems at the same time.

adding in a new hero and adding in these maps and adding in like this big rework that makes it feel like the next step and a new iteration of the thing. And then you do have single player, right, which is going to add in so much content. It is going to be like why you're buying Overwatch 2. Because Andy, correct me from wrong, right? Like, Overwatch 2 is that going to cost? Is that going to be a thing that people buy when that comes out if they don't already own Overwatch 1? The single player component, yes. Based on what I've been reading, if you own Overwatch 1 multiplayer, Overwatch 2 multiplayer is free.

Like all of your stuff transfers over, all of your skins, anything you've unlocked, everything is transferred over automatically to two. And just like today, I log into two and all my skins are there. Everything is unlocked. And then my one question would be, you know, you're talking about like, you know, the game you've been playing forever. It's now 5V5, whatever. Once Overwatch 2 comes out, you can still play Overwatch 1 if you wanted to sell that 6 v6. You wanted to still have the experience of having that team kind of? I don't think so.

I don't know. Like right now, Overwatch 1 is still up right now. Sure. I don't think so. I think this does take over that. Interesting. Interesting.

I imagine the question. I haven't thought of that, I guess. There must be like an arcade mode, because they have arcade modes where it is, like stuff that's come through and that they've, like,

removed from, like, from modes. Like, they, the quick play used to be, you can pick whatever character you want and just roll with it,

right? And they changed it so that you do roll cue. They then took what quick play was and added it into arcade mode. Like, I imagine that, 6V6 might be a thing that just becomes available through that the way they have like they have like 3v3 they have other stuff there that are modes for overwatch so i think it exists in there but like

yeah i think if you have overwatch one you are going to be ushering into 5 v5 for traditional like competitive or um quick play modes i just had so much fun today like it it felt it felt like a new product that i was playing in it felt good to be back you know i hadn't played overwatch and a serious way in a while. And it was just a lot of fun to be kind of with friends, kind of coordinating different plays, calling out who's weak. Like, I think Overwatch is just such a solid multiplayer game.

And again, I think it's a game that is very inviting of a lot of new players, even though on the surface, it may seem really complicated. And there's all these different people, who do I pick? But I just, I love that it doesn't have to be this,

game that you have to be the ultimate head clicker to play, where a lot of games you hop into Call Duty and you get your shit kicked in for 30 minutes to an hour, you're like, I just fucking suck. This isn't fun, you know, and that happens a lot and that can kind of push people away. But like Mike today plays a character named Baptiste, who on the left click shoots a burst fire. Do you do, dooooochoo. And it's a hit scan shot. It's really nice and precise.

the right click, you shoot a little heel grenade at your teammates. And somebody said, Mike's playing today as if his left click is unbound. Because he wasn't shooting the other team at all. He's like, I'm healing, bro. He was like, I'm having fun healing. Keep my team alive. Like, that's my objective. And he never one shot at the other team.

But we were still successful because he was healing me and I was the one. So it's just such a great game. It has such a great balance to it. And I'm so excited to watch. the pros play it. The funniest thing is, like, Tam and Lucy and everybody who was a part of the preview sessions before today's more public kind of beta is that it was select members of the press, a couple people from IGN as well, against a bunch of pros and former pros.

And Tam was texting me like, this is a fucking nightmare. Like, it's just I'm getting my ass kicked all day and night. Like, I can't wait for, bless, did you know we played with Tam today? Oh, did we really? Tam was on our shit out of them. Tam was on our team today. And we didn't know. And at one point I saw, like,

Tam has logged off and I was like, oh, we should invite Tam. And he texted me like, oh, it felt so great to see people I know in the game because I'm getting my ass whipped all day. Yeah, so it's really cool to be able to kind of play against people that are of similar skill level, but I'm excited to see what the pros can do with this as well

because I'm a big fan of the Overwatch League as well. So being able to see. people who know what the hell they're doing and how they take advantage of these strategies. It's just, it's back, man. I'm so excited. I'm very impressed by the balancing updates with this one. You mentioned that Overwatch is just a fun game, even if you're jumping in and you're like, oh, this seems complicated or whatever.

Like, playing today took me back to when I first started playing Overwatch. I think it was actually the beta for Overwatch One that came out like a month or so before the actual game release where I was like, oh, man, everybody's talking about this Overwatch game. Let me give it a shot. and I played my first match as Reaper, and immediately was like, oh, I get this. It clicks. This is fun.

This has an amazing art style. This has great feeling shooting mechanics, right? And like, the more you play, the more you learn and the more you're like, shit, this game just keeps on opening up. I keep finding new characters. I keep finding new abilities. I keep finding new ways to play and new strategies and all that. With Overwatch 2, right, playing this beta, I felt like I was finding that again.

I think one with Sojourn being the new character, but then also with the reworks that you're talking about. hopping back and forth between characters and like trying out this new version of ERISA, right? Or seeing characters use the new version of Doomfist and like... Doomfist is now a tank. He's no longer a damage player, you know? Yeah. I see people explore that has been so fun and has felt like it, like that, those are the moments that have made this feel like Overwatch 2 to me and not just a 1.08 or whatever. It's funny because I think the game will also, like any game, you know, the toxicity exists, right?

and I think toxicity will be ramped up here because now there's a scoreboard, Greg. And now you can hit the tab button, which you never used to be able to do before. It's just you got to the end of the game. You had medals. It was based on a metal system. So what would happen, Greg,

if I'm a tank or if I'm a healer and I see that I have a gold damage, I'm typing in chat. DPS, where the fuck are you? Damage players, what are you doing? Come on, y'all. Like, I have gold damage. I shouldn't have gold damage.

And you just kind of knew, At times, I'd be playing with our friend JD, and he'll be like, I have gold damage and I'm a tank. How about you? I was like, I have silver damage and I'm a tank. I'm going to miss that. That was my favorite comment to make is like, I'm on heels. Why do I have a golden heel and damage? So now you can hit tab and you can see everybody's e-limbs, everybody's assists, everybody's deaths, everybody's damage.

And you can kind of see immediate impact in what's happening in real time, which will likely lead to some more toxicity. But if you're on console and there's no text chat, you know, it's all good. Nobody can type in to chat. Yeah, I don't necessarily like that changed, but it'll probably ruin me. Like, it's every, in every other FPS. But I'm like, damn, one of the reasons I like playing Overwatch so much is that, like, I wasn't thinking about what somebody else is doing. I was only focused on, like, how many gold medals I can get.

And, like, I was good. But now that I can see, like, oh, shit, all right, everybody else has five more kills to me. Like, I'm going to, I feel like that's going to cost for, like, like, like you're saying, right? A lot of, like, grief and between players, but. There'd be times where, like, I might be doing bad, but the, everybody decides to focus on somebody else and I'm like yeah dog why are you so shitty right now it's like I'm also doing terrible but there was anonymity nobody could really tell how

anybody was doing but yeah I I'm just so happy that Overwatch feels like it's back in a meaningful way and there's finally new content this is it's been the longest drought without any meaningful content and that's and it's all because it's been going into Overwatch too which is really exciting one more thing I wanted to mention on the on the balancing thing as well you mentioned that like you know with the preview, right? Like, you'll see Tam and Lucy talk about how they're playing against pros and all they're just getting smacked and all this

stuff. The thing I was surprised about today is how much we weren't getting smacked. Like, it felt like there was a good balance of us actually winning matches. Like, we might have won most of the matches we played. At least that's what it felt. Like, I wasn't feeling discouraged at any point. And we did start off, like, playing against XQC, the streamer

on the other team, and him and his team fucking whooped up. He was a former pro for the Dallas Fuel and team Canada. And like, so he knows Overwatch and he's been playing Overwatch 2 for a while and we queued up against him we're like that's probably not ex-cisee you and I was like no it probably is like not a whole lot

of people have access to it right now and sure enough I switched over to his stream and I was like oh yeah he fucking dominated I fucking hate kind of funny and I'm gonna kill these idiots in that moment I was like fuck man all right this was gonna be we're playing a bunch of high level players and we're just gonna get dominated the whole time but I think it's to the credit of

the update and like all the rework changes they've done where there wasn't it didn't seem like there was a consistent this is the comp and we're like we're getting destroyed because everybody has an ERISA and an ex person and a Y person the Z person. I feel like there was a lot of freedom to like experiment and figure out like different team comps and I granted that was like we started playing right when the beta went up and so like there wasn't that enough time for people to figure out what the meta was but I think even

that early not seeing any of that and having it be a thing of all right yeah Mike loves Baptiste so he's going to play Baptiste. I dig mercy and I'm just going to play mercy and we're just going to our default characters and still finding success and having fun. I think a part, I think part of that is how good the 5E5 is, which is the 66 and how good the setup is of one tank, two healer, two attack. Like, it just feels way more set up for people to have the freedom to play the way they want to play and like experiment around. And also the heels thing, right, where it is like whatever character has healing over time. I think that then leads a lot to being able to be individual. not necessarily have to rely completely on having a healer, completely on X, Y, Z thing.

Bashian rules now also. Bashian is a character who was known as a very toxic type of hero that when the other team would pick him, they would just sit down, go into a turret form, and somebody held up a shield in front of the bastion, and the turret person would just go to town. It's like, they have a bastion. I don't want us to go to Bashan. I don't want us to stoop that low. It's fucking hate Bash.

but they definitely made some reworks to Bastion where I think he's a lot, way more fun to play. The passive, the secondary abilities shoots like a little grenade at one point. When he does go into his turret form, it's a cool-down ability. So you go into turret form and you kind of, you can drive around with your turret, then you go back into your robot form. Bastion's a lot of fun. And aside from that, I think. Winston got to rework, but I feel like everybody has been saying that he is probably still the worst tank to pick the big monkey guy.

It feels like such a good example of let's not fix what's not broken in terms of the characters that got reworks and in terms of stuff they have to stay the same. Because like I feel like the heart and like the gameplay, everything I love about Overwatch is still present and still here. But there are a lot of changes. And most of the changes, I'm like, I have no problem with this, right? And like a lot of them, a lot of the changes, granted, aren't the characters that I usually play. But even hearing Andy talk about his characters or seeing people mess with ERISA or find new characters, like even me, I started playing a little bit as Sojourn.

And I was like, this is fantastic. Like I am loving this as a character that typically maybe I won't play or even playing as Tank and playing as ERISA and me being like, man, usually I hate playing tank, but I'm really enjoying playing as ERISA. Like, you know, a lot of it feels like them acknowledging all the parts that didn't work and really leading into, all right, if it works, leave it, like don't touch it. We're only going to like completely revamp the things that really do need to get revamped, right? So that's how you see two point capture

get nixed and that is how you see push come through and like I hope push gets better because I had fun with it but I didn't have the most fun with it like I still prefer the other most. Same. Yeah. But I imagine that's just them balancing and having to figure out like you know, how quickly does the thing push and like maybe figuring out like

making maps feel a bit more smooth for that mode. But I think the cool thing is like we there was four new maps available today but those weren't those aren't the only ones that we've seen previewed before there's a couple of other high um payload maps and there's a couple and there's i think one extra control map which is basically your king of the hill type style uh game type which is another one of my favorites but yeah i would say push is still my least favorite of the three but i'd prefer that to two point capture assault is what is what that mode is called this beta is going through may 17th number one

how can people get into it, Andy? And then have they talked about, okay, in that time, we're giving you other heroes, other maps? Are they changing it, or is what you played today going to be the experience all the way through May 17th? I think this is the experience through May 17th. The way you can play, you can watch partnered streamers who have been partnered through Blizzard.

So streamers like XQC, streamers like, basically if you open up the Overwatch 2 tab on Twitch and you see people with the highest amount of viewers, those are probably the people that have the partnership thing where you watch for a certain amount of time and you might be given a code, rewarded a code. Seagull is another really cool Overwatch streamer that I highly recommend.

He's really fun and yeah, he's a former pro as well. So yeah, just an absolute blast. I can't wait to keep on playing bless and hopefully we can get back into it tomorrow. Still no word on when the final release is coming, right? Have they talked about other betas beyond this? like, and I'm sorry to ask new questions, I'm sure, for Overwatch 2, but it's something I only talk about occasionally on a games daily

and usually kick to you guys for expert commentary. I didn't know if we knew anything beyond it or if this was like, this is the big push till May 17th, and then it's kind of radio silence until they have more to say. I think this is the big push till May 17th, because the most important thing is that in June, that's when Overwatch League starts. Gotcha.

And we know that I know Overwatch 2, or the Overwatch League, has been delayed quite a bit because of Overwatch too because they knew they wanted to make the switch over and that's when we start to see the actual in-person land events with teams facing off against other teams in the league I think that it's going to I think they're going to go radio silent after the thing and just kind of be like all right we're working on it it'll be out when it's out I just have no idea

when they can possibly target that I don't know if it's going to be fall or winter but I do think that because didn't they announce blessing that they are going to release no I'm thinking Halo that's Halo they just released the multiplayer first before the campaign because I was like I feel like that would benefit them

to release the Overwatch 2 multiplayer first and then whenever this single player thing comes through here it is playing this beta I'm like this feels ready like it feels like you can put it out why don't you just put it out and I wonder I wonder if it is like them one wanting to like balance it like crazy over the next few months and then also like how long is where how far along is single player going is that going to be ready for you know uh this fall or is it going to be

ready for if they were to shout if they're honestly to shadow drop it and go actually it is out at the end of the beta it's coming out may 19th or whatever like is that i think they can even get away with but yeah like i would be down honestly if they were like actually we're going to hold the single player just let multiplayer exist for the for in perpetuity while we make single player a banger and something that is worth buying when it comes out in the fall or next year. And it could be like Fortnight when Fortnight was in beta for, they just had the beta word on there for years, right? It could be like that.

It could just be Overwatch 2 beta for the next, whoever knows how many months, year or so, six to six months to a year. And we will continue to work and update and improve until we are ready for, you know, until we go gold or whatever. all right well we will keep you post ladies gentlemen as we play more overwatch to beta what those thoughts and opinions are because that's what we do here on the kind of funny games cast each and every week we talk about all the things we love and

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