Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Official Game Awards 2020 Predictions and Bets - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 52
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What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast.
As always, I'm Tim Geddes, joined by one of the coolest dudes in video games, Greg Miller.
Let's go bonkers for bongos.
You know what I mean?
Come on.
Bongo it up, baby.
Bongo it up.
You know, every once in a while, I think back to Kind of Funny Live 3.
And I think about the fact that there was a song made about Nick bongoing Kevin's Bear
belly.
And that we had a thousand people losing their shit and jumping.
up and down to Nick slapping Kevin on the belly while Cryo went off and we're all jumping up and down.
And it's like if there was one, if we had to describe kind of funny in like five seconds,
it would be a giff of that for me.
So thank you for bringing that back into my mind, Greg.
Anytime I'm happy to be here to put things in your mind.
Kevin nude waist down.
Oh, God.
The man that is very, very offended by that is,
new face of video games blessing at a yoie junior how's it going thanks for having me it's going
real good it's going real good and the man that i feel like i haven't talked to in way too
damn long the former and former imran con it's been about two weeks yeah that's way too damn long to him
i don't i don't like that i don't i need more imran in my life how are you doing i'm doing good i
listened to the game's cast last week because i was not on it snow bike like i don't know what you
guys put in his coffee but holy man he went he went off he would like that is a side of snow bike mic
i've literally never seen i've done the guy what like two years at this point like it's
i think i said on twitter that should be spicy snowback mike or the spicicle i've known him even longer
wow even longer than you emron and i've never heard him that amped up with terrible opinions
it was insane cool this is a bad controller get the fuck i have respect for anybody who can say that
that sort of thing with as much confidence.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, straight with faces as he can.
If you want to talk about me,
a PlayStation fanboy, you know what I mean?
People call me a PlayStation fan boy.
We're going to fucking listen to this guy.
That's a fan boy.
That's an ex-Botify ever met one.
That's the kind of guy even Phil Spencer's like,
I don't know.
I love the who the heck is Galactus.
Like that was just like such only snow bike might
can bring that type of heat.
I appreciate it very much.
But I'm happy to have you back in run.
I don't want to get too.
off the rocker here, Greg.
But I need to know some facts because I, you know,
we do games daily, this combination of folks right here plus.
Oh, actually, great point.
I don't know where exactly you're about to go with games,
the game's daily reference.
Where are you going with it?
Do your thing.
Blessing in Imran.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Why?
Oh, Eddie Vedder.
What would he sing at the game awards?
Why would he be at the game awards?
Why would game?
Really?
I don't think I need.
So what I did not know, he was the one who did the last of a song.
That was just completely, I did not know that.
But also, I don't think of Eddie Vedder separately from Pearl Jam, period, like ever.
That is not a thing.
Is this the conversation we had?
Yeah, post show.
We were talking about this.
Oh.
I don't know who Eddie Vedder is.
I know he's from Pearl Jam, and I know Pearl Jam because I used to live in Seattle.
That's the only reason I know what Pearl Jam is.
So, see, I don't understand.
Because this is the thing.
You're going to come in.
You played this game.
You love this game.
Blessing you talk.
The narrative backbone of this game is Future Days by Pearl Jam.
know what I mean, have your eyes open for a second,
listen on one of the spoiler casts.
You don't know, that's fine.
But then I, Greg Miller,
I'm going to get shit when I don't know that Cactus Jack is Travis Scott.
And I have no idea what Travis Scott says.
That's different.
Everybody knows who Travis Scott is.
That's different.
Everybody knows who Travis Scott is making a new PlayStation game.
I'm very excited about it.
I hope it's Melgear.
I'm going to out myself worse here because I did.
Hold on.
I need to cut you off real quick.
You hope that Travis Scott is making Metal Gear.
We've been talking about the three years.
I get it. I see it. Solid Snake all the way, man.
We've been talking about this for you.
Tim, I don't think you caught this on yesterday's KPD where we were theorizing.
The new story came out that Travis Scott is working on a new PlayStation game.
Theoretically, possibly working on a new PlayStation game.
And we've been talking about for years what a new Mel gear could be because Kojima is probably done with it.
He probably doesn't want to touch Mel gear anymore.
But you need somebody, if somebody's going to tackle that franchise is going to,
if somebody's going to make either a new entry or remake or whatever it may be,
they have to have vision they have to be a personality right they have to be a leader they have to be
a auteur and i think Travis Scott Travis Scott embodies all those things you and i think like
i think kojima would be down with it i think if i think cojima's the type dude who's like if i'm
gonna sign off on anybody it's going to be somebody who has the the presence of a Travis scott
like Travis scott fits that bill also i want him to sing or do a cover of snake eater from
melgersaw three i think that would be a great great presence of a presence of a travis scott. I think that'd be a
cover.
That would be fantastic.
Greg Miller from Kind of Funny.
Yeah,
Blessing Adioia Jr.
from Kind of funny.
Did Travis Scott do Old Town Road?
No, that's Lil Nasx.
What has Travis Scott done other than made a cheeseburger?
Sickle mode.
Yes.
You know sickle mode.
What's that?
Make the cheeseburger.
He just said barbecue sauce.
It goes.
He just said barbecue sauce.
Even that wasn't original.
Yeah, it wasn't barbecue.
It wasn't barbecue sauce.
Apparently was mustard ketchup.
Yeah, it just showed me a picture.
Oh my God.
I just jumped into the sickle mode video about two minutes and 18 seconds in.
Someone pull it up.
So I'm doing that.
What is going on?
That's when the beat change of happens, right?
Yeah.
Dude, that beat change up happens about five times in that song.
It is, I've never heard this song.
It is one of the best songs of the last 50 years.
I'll put that out there.
Can you sing for me so I can kind of get a sense of it?
I want to tell you right around the three and a half minute mark, another booty shows up.
Wow.
Greg, can you focus on the music, not the bodies?
Sure.
Go back to the zero time stamp.
I need to play it from the beginning because it starts off so elegant.
And I think the genius to sickle mode is it starts off with the dopest beat of all time.
You're like, oh, fuck.
Like this shit is building.
Oh, man, we're about to get into some shit.
And then right when the beat's about to drop, they take it from you and replace it with an even doper beat.
And like, who would have thought of that?
right like who would have thought of that there's no artist of the generation that's doing that
that sort of thing and then it switches up again and again and by the time you get to the end of the song
you're like am i listening to the same song from the book from before yeah no drake's on the song too
there are like five songs at one song oh that's drake i don't know the caprio point like that's drake
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What was that wow about?
Oh, Greg's jamming.
When the beat change happened,
what's the, hold on on,
and then Sigelmo, mo, mo, mo, you went into the James Hastings.
things things and it matched perfectly where it was like you introduce patreon producers right as the
beach change that was crazy uh everybody go if you can find this it's Travis Scott sick oh mode
featuring Drake official video on YouTube I've left the comment kind of funny games cast sent me
go thumbs that up you know I know that there's probably a percentage of the audience that's
really annoyed that we're talking about this right now and there's another percentage that it's all
about it so I'm going to take a little little tangent to that just a little further because the
The topic of this episode that we'll get to in just a second is the Game Awards nominee predictions.
We're going to go one by one through all of them.
We'll all make a predictions.
In a couple of weeks, we'll look back and see who is the victor.
But before we do that, since we're talking about this music stuff, me and my brother have been having a lively debate over the last couple weeks since the Grammy Award nominees were announced.
And I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I do want to just talk to you guys as a group about the song of the year.
All right.
Bless, do you have any just top level thoughts on this, like off the top of your head?
Like for video games?
No, no, no, no, no.
Grammy Award, Song of the Year.
Oh, like actual song of the year for, oh.
Yeah.
I don't know.
And that's fine.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Because there's a couple songs of whatever.
But what I really just want to bring to this group of people that I, you know, not to insult
anyone here, but I'm going to say it's uneducated in the music sphere.
Nail on the head, man.
The debate me and my brother have is between.
Don't start now by...
Don't start now.
Nope.
By Dua Lipa, by Dua Lita.
Don't start now by Dua Lepa.
Or The Box by Rottie Rich.
Ooh, The Box by Rottie Rich is a good one.
But I think you guys are missing out on why.
Can you explain to Greg
what the Rottie Rich song The Box is using your mouth?
That's it, right?
That's like the song is like that's the beat.
Oh, fuck, you're getting cut out.
You're getting cut out.
Do it louder. Do it louder. Can you hear that?
Every other one's getting cut out. Oh my God.
This is such a fail. This is such a fail. But yeah, you would be nailed this one.
But yeah, it's like, it's eat. I'm making it like an eater sound back and forth.
Yeah. And it's like it sounds like people fucking on a bed. Yes. And that's the beat.
And it's fucking. It's fucking awesome. I get down. I still think that don't start now is like, that's like a commercial song.
is an old Navy commercials. You know what you mean?
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. I mean,
I don't, I feel like WAP takes both
of those, though. Not on the list.
Not on the list. Really? Yeah. That's
shocking. I wonder if it missed the
time frame. Like that I don't know. I don't know. It seems very
ridiculous because I think I would agree
with you, blessed. But again, not to
reintrodu to the show, but this is the kind of funny
gamescast where we talk about video games. So
I want to tell you about that. But first,
I want to tell you that we are
brought to you by the legendary.
of Bumbo, but I'll tell you about that later.
For now, let's get right into it. Game Awards, 2020, Greg Miller.
Hey, so close.
Can I tell you how excited I am for the first time in years to watch the Game Wars with you guys?
Holy shit. Wait, we've never done it.
That's kind of funny now.
Yeah, that's really crazy.
Greg Miller, fancy man, wearing the suits.
Taking the best picture he's ever taken that we use for every headshot from now until infinity
with the IGN logo behind him.
Was that Dice Awards?
Those are the words.
The host.
All right.
These are the words I go drink at
and leave three-fourths of the way through.
Really long.
It's really cold.
You don't even stay for the Game of the Year award.
I mean, once you get there,
you know, it's going to be a Zelda.
You know, it's going to be a red.
I'm kidding.
Yeah, you stay for the whole thing.
Hold on.
I'm too hot.
I got to take off my Christmas sweater.
I hate that right.
Definitely.
Blessings cool shirt.
It is a very cool shirt.
Thank you.
Happy 30th birthday.
Mario.
Give us your
Mario impression
that you gave us
earlier.
Oh.
The mic is
fucking you
today,
bless.
Whatever.
Is it not
weird?
Ooh.
We got some
I don't know
what's going on.
You can go
into the
settings and lower
down the
gate.
I thought I
turned off the
gate.
No,
there's usually,
we set at
negative 70
usually,
negative 69.
Somewhere around
there.
Nice.
Yeah,
nice.
Now,
Greg,
you bring
up that the game awards are very long. They are very long. And they're always very long.
There's never been a like short show. And there's never even been a show where we're like,
oh, that was the right length. And it's weird because people still complain there's not enough
awards. They complain this, that, whatever, too many rap. It's just a commercial. Yeah, whatever.
I fucking love the game awards. Are they too long? They're extremely long. I don't want to say they're too
long. But this year, they're only going. What? They got to be short this year, right?
No, this year they're coming. They're straight up saying it's four hours. Oh, shit. I missed them.
They said it's from four to eight.
So it's like, you know,
said expectations.
I appreciate that.
You know what I mean?
Jeff Keely,
if anything,
learned this summer that you just have to set expectations correctly.
Sure.
Sometimes it's a little too much.
Sometimes it's being a little too on the nose
about exactly what we're getting at everything.
But four hours of the game wars are about to happen next week.
I'm sure there will be many announcements,
some of consequence,
some of no consequence.
I don't think Vin Diesel will make an appearance this year,
which is kind of a bummer.
Tom Holland will, though.
Tom Holland will, though.
And we assume he brings with him the Uncharted trailer, right?
Do you think?
Movie.
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, not a game.
Yeah, I'm probably the movie.
When they first announced him, I, like, my brain skipped the movie and I was like,
fuck it, man, bring a new game.
I'm down for them to announce and charted five and a half or whatever.
Ooh, I kind of like that.
I haven't even thought about that.
And you're right, great.
That probably does make sense.
We'll talk about predictions of what we think we're getting from that stuff later in the
show.
I want to go through the nominees right now, and we're going to take our bets, our predictions
on who's going to take it all.
I sent you guys the list of nominations
you can go to the Game Awards website
to follow along at home if you would like.
We're going to start at the bottom of this.
Start for the bottom.
Now we're here.
Greg,
that's a reference you might get
from your favorite artist Drake.
That is a song that I've heard many times
and now I know it's Drake.
Thank you.
Started from the bottom now we're here.
Started from the bottom.
Now the whole cruise here.
You know what I mean?
He knows more than I thought he was.
All right.
So you guys, do you have this page brought up?
Yes.
Now, Greg, do you want to warn the crew about my ability to predict things as proven on PSWXOXO?
I mean, no, because then I got to bring up me losing a lot again.
But like, be careful.
You guys, he lost a lot.
Blessing was calling Metacritics on the dot to fuck me over from a month, two months ago on a thing we just did on PSLW.
Nailed them on the dot what they would be.
That is insane.
And I do want to remind you guys that at the beginning of this year,
we did a episode of us predicting Metacritic scores for the entire year of games.
And we're going to look back at that in 2021.
Oh, damn.
I forgot what I said.
Who the hell knows what we said.
Everything's delayed.
That was seven years ago.
Like, I don't remember anything about that now.
Yeah.
So I'm excited about that.
But let's start off here with we're not going to do all of the awards.
We're only going to do ones that, like, we have.
anything that we can say about, right?
So obviously down here, we're not going to talk about
e-sports team.
Get out of here.
None of us are equipped for that.
Esports host.
None of us are equipped for that.
Shout out.
Shout out to Golden Boy, Alex Mendez.
We hope that he gets it because we're big fans of him.
But we love him.
Moving on from there, best e-sports game,
I think that we should be able to make predictions of that.
Do you guys agree?
Sure.
I think they're blind guesses, but sure.
Yeah, but I think it's enough of like,
like, it's as blind to guess.
any of the other things they were going into, right?
The nominees are.
Before we even begin, what I want to do is clear my own head, all right?
And remind myself of some sage-like wisdom, Anakin, JMT, points out that I said last year.
He put this on the subreddit, and I can't thank Anakin enough.
Reminder for Greg, one year ago, after the Game Awards 2019, you sit either on a KFGD or
Gamescast to have someone to remind you, come GamesCast.
TGA 2020 predictions to go mainstream with your predictions.
Don't overthink it.
Just go with the mainstream option and you most likely come out on top.
Well, my phone has reminded me of this today.
So here it is.
Greg, go mainstream with your games cast predictions for Game Awards 2020.
Don't overthink it.
My mind is clear.
Go, Tim.
But that's not true.
Like, if you look at last year, it wasn't mainstream winners.
Go Tim.
Go for it.
The nominees for Best E-Sports game.
And I'm going to read the description too
to get us kind of thinking about this.
For the game that has delivered
the best overall e-sports experience to players,
inclusive of tournaments, community support,
and content updates,
irrespective of genre or platform.
Call of Duty, Modern Warfare.
What's up, everyone?
I was going to say last year's ones
before you go to this year's.
Go for it.
Last year's nominees were League of Legends,
Fortnite,
Overwatch, Dota, 2,
and Counterstrike Global Offensive.
Wow.
So keep that in mind
as you read this list.
Which is,
Call of Duty Modern Warfare,
Counterstrike Global Offensive,
Fortnite,
League of Legends,
and Ballarat.
So last year,
League of Legends won.
I don't think anyone
thinks super hard about this,
except for, like,
the Eastport sites.
So,
I think Greg's instinct
to go mainstream or
most
either Fortnite or League of Legends
those seem like the obvious answer
Why not Valerant?
Again, I don't play these kind of games
and don't follow e-sports to this degree,
but I hear people talk about Valoran a lot.
Valoran feels like the kind of game
that should have gotten more conversation
than it did.
Like, I know people play Valorant and people
really like Valorant, but
for a game, for that game,
I would have expected it to take over the world
in a way that it didn't necessarily do.
But I know people love it.
It's world.
That's what thing.
Do you think, you know, I think, you know, I think, uh, was this, was on our ballot?
No, it wasn't.
Was it on our ballot?
It doesn't matter.
Well, like, we would have abstained from this category.
How many people abstain from this category?
And then you only have the people who know East sports voting on this category.
Would they have gone, Valerant because it's made the best moves?
I don't know because I think that to me from the outside and from slightly inside because
of Andy's world, like Valorant felt like the exclusive club that everyone wanted to get in for like
two weeks.
but then everyone, once everyone got in,
they realized it was overcrowded and they didn't want to be there.
I don't hear anything about...
I might have stretched that analogy there,
but like some of it,
it's based in truth.
Like,
I don't hear when a new character gets announced
or like there's a new event or like a new e-sports thing.
Like, I don't, granted,
I don't keep up on that stuff in general,
but I don't hear that about Valerat.
And that should be the year they do that.
Because that game just came out,
so it should be the brand new hotness.
But I don't see everyone...
The reason I would see Valerite winning this is if people went, oh, that's new.
We should get this a shot.
Well, that's my thing is I'm looking at this category, looking at these choices.
I'm immediately inclined to go Valerant because Valerant is the new one.
And I feel like when you look at Modern Warfare, Counter Strike, Fortnite, in League of Legends,
it's like out of those four, which one of those had a truly standout year for esports.
And like, again, I was talking about e-sports specifically kind of throws a wrench into this before me because I'm like, okay, I can talk about some of these games in general.
Like, Fortnite has new seasons that are off.
awesome and all that stuff.
Modern Warfare had war zone, which is awesome.
But like in the e-sports world, how are folks looking at that?
Which for me, like, is a more hardcore, like, way more in-tuned thing that I feel like I'm not,
I'm not as tuned in on.
I'm going league.
Yeah, league won last year, so it can't be like, only the e-sports people caring.
Like, if that were the case, it would have been probably counter-strike or Dota.
I'm saying Ballarat.
I'm saying Valer.
but I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I'm going to go league because league won last year.
The league's on this one this year.
So I have not heard of league screwing up in a major way.
So probably wins again this year.
I'm going to go college duty modern warfare because of war zone.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Then best e-sports event we're going to skip.
Best e-sports coach.
We're going to skip.
Best e-sports athlete.
We're going to skip best debut game.
for the best debut game created by a new independent studio.
We have Carion,
Mortal Shell,
Raji, an ancient epic,
Roki, and phasmophobia.
Hmm.
I vote phasmophobia.
Me too.
I would personally,
if I were picking this,
I would pick phasmophobia.
I think Carian is better known.
You think so?
I think it had a better...
No way.
Yes.
Carian?
Among people who are...
are voting on this sort of thing, yes.
I think people will be like,
oh yeah,
I've heard.
I think I'm with you.
I understand what you're saying,
because Devolver was behind Carri-on,
right,
as publisher.
I think more people have heard of Carri-on,
but I think it underperformed expectations.
Like,
I don't think it lived up to what those
initial E3 demos were.
So I mean people know the name,
but they're like,
oh,
but it wasn't that great.
Whereas Phasmophobia,
I think's the name,
if you've heard it,
you know,
all people are streaming it.
Oh, people are really loving it,
blah, blah.
I think it's,
I think it's the,
It's, you know, the tale of two different things of
low expectations, you know, high results,
high expectations, low results kind of thing.
I think for Kerry, it's a combination of being devolver-backed
and also debuting on Game Pass.
So is that sort of thing of, hey, this is a perfect game
for me not having to care about it at all.
Of, like, this is just a three-hour thing,
like, just play on Game Pass.
I have no investment in it.
And what I played looked and felt nice for like an hour.
Sure.
It's definitely between those two.
yeah like the other one i've played i've played raji and i've played mortal shell those are both fine games
i don't think they're in competition for this thing really there was no real conversation about them
and no real mass critical critical consensus anyway i feel like raji has a chance because i know
there's like a big conversation around it culturally for the things that it was doing that
was unique from a lot from a lot of other games uh but yeah i'm with you guys that i think it's
between karenin and phasmophobia and overall i'm probably going to go phasmophobia for my
prediction. Yeah, I'm going to be the outlier and they'll say carry on.
All right, moving on.
Early shout to everybody who's gone to the Travis Scott video so far and already left a comment on my comment.
Content creator of the year for a streamer or content creator who has made an important and positive impact on the community in 2020.
Alana Pierce.
Jay Ann Lopez.
Nick Burks, Tim the Tapman, or Valcray.
This is what they're replaced Trending Gamer with, right?
Correct. Yeah. Okay. Last year was the first year of this. Yeah. So this is for a streamer,
I said that, but streamer, content creator who has made an important and positive impact on the committee in 2020.
I think it's going to be an interesting one. I think it's going to be an interesting runoff because we are so,
I mean, obviously, I want to vote for Alana. I want to say Alana's going to win. And we know Alana so
well having her come from our sphere working for us for Xcast and then the fact that she does such
amazing charity work in streams for charity what multiple times it seems like every week she's always
doing something you know paying it forward but then you if so that's my argument but i'm wondering
how insular that is of how limited that is like you know tim the tatman broke through i thought in an
interesting way where and i know this sounds goofy but i know who tim the tatman is i follow tim the tatman right
where it's like that's i with all due respect to everybody else i don't know the other people where
It's like he was able to cross over that way.
So does he already have the live streaming fall guy's audience
and the coming over?
And then is it just this argument of,
is that what this award is though, right?
Because they go very important and positive impact on the community.
Tim, that meant's hilarious and funny.
And his fall guy stuff was funny.
But does it fall under that definition?
Are people even looking at that definition
when they think content creator of the year?
I mean, Tim,
Tim's also done a lot of the charity stuff.
And so was Nick.
So it's like a lot of that is there too
for the positive impact side of it.
I do think when it comes like just kind of breaking things.
down process of elimination.
I think that Tim is over Nick.
And that might even just be because of the,
um,
fact that Tim's are better than Nick,
but also the fact that,
uh,
Tim had that fall guys moment where all eyes were on him,
right?
And that went hell of mainstream when people were talking about that.
We talked about that,
we talked about Nick Merck's on a show.
Yeah, I don't know who he was Alcray, 100 thieves.
She's doing great stuff.
I don't think she really has a chance.
Like I think that that's really.
Yeah.
I think that she to me is like the easy like she's 80% there but we have people that are over 80.
So I think it's between and Jan Lopez unfortunately I'm unfamiliar with.
Like Valcara out of all out of all these, aside from Alana because I know Alana obviously because like IGN and her being everywhere.
But if I was if I was outside of this specific world out of this specific loop, I feel like Valcaray would be the one where I'm like, okay, I know that name.
like even over Nick Merckson, Tim the Tapman,
I see Valcray everywhere.
Like even when I'm scrolling on TikTok,
I see Valcray stuff pop up.
See, but I would argue that like,
even like courage is a more popular
100 Thieves person than Valcray.
But I see where you're coming from.
There's like different audiences there.
I think it's between Alana and Tim the Tapman.
I think that because of where the world's at right now
and because of a lot of the people voting on this,
I'm pretty split.
I think Alana is definitely the most ubiquitous of all of them.
But also, like, I'm not sure how much ubiquity helps you here.
Like this is a specific category and it really depends on what people are voting on.
Like, have I, have I heard of this person or are we thinking about their positive impact?
Or are we looking for the newer faces like to kind of push up those like, you know, up-and-comers versus, you know, people who are well-established.
And also, we asked Alana, we put it out on the ether, has got a war five, a PS5 title.
And she didn't answer.
So, you know, maybe she's not going to because of that.
Yeah.
That's a good point.
not giving us the straight answers i think i'm going to him to that man and i i want a loter to win
but i'm going to him to tap man he has two point something million followers on twitter yeah that's a lot
remember when i beat putty pot though yeah i do i'll never change things change i'm voting alana
i think i'll vote for alanna i think i think ubiquity does help her here i'm a split
honestly because i think i'm looking i'm looking at the definition again right for the for the category right
for a streamer content creator who has made an important and positive impact on the community in 2020.
I know Jayne Lopez, she runs Black Girl gamers, which like I've seen around for like years.
I know for a fact that her career is basically dedicated toward making that positive change and pushing and highlighting Black voices and gaming,
which I feel like abides by the riding for this category.
But I think the popularity of Valkyray might push her over.
And so I'm going to go Valkyray for my prediction.
Here's the thing.
I'm really glad I'm not the one actually choosing this,
and I'm just going to predicting who's going to win.
Because I feel like I would feel real bad,
because I do not know enough about all this,
and all those people seem like they're real great.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Moving on to best multiplayer.
For outstanding online, multiplayer gameplay and design,
including co-off and massively multiplayer experiences,
irrespective of game genre or platform.
Animal Crossing.
New Horizons,
among us.
Call of Duty Warzone,
Fall Guys' ultimate knockout,
Valerate.
How did Animal Crossing get there?
Oh,
it has multiplayer.
I know it has multiplayer,
but like barely.
Don't you love waiting for me
to come to your island?
Like stopping everything you're doing
for me to come to your island,
not being able to do certain things in your island
because I'm coming over.
A joke of a nomination.
It's no problem because it's a seaplane.
That's my own answer to that.
Like,
I'm going to war zone.
I'm going among us.
I'm going to go Fall Guys
I'm all going to go
Ward then
I think Fall guys
it would have good spread
but so many different places
and I think you know
the PlayStation Plus
helped to get in so many different hands
and again that's one of the ones
that again I don't know how much is actually
going off of Greg from 2019
telling me to worry about
like it's probably
no that would be right
Greg from 2019 telling me to go mainstream
like I feel Fall Guys broke through
obviously Call of Duty is more mainstream
than anything but like
I don't argue among us
is more mainstream than either of them
Yeah like among us
in war zone
where it comes down to me because Amongus
has an insane amount of downloads
like the amount of people that are playing
Amongus and like the penetration
In fact, I might change my answer to Amongus
Like you don't see AOC
Yeah, that's true, that's true
And Foggis had its moment
Whereas Amongus seems to continue to go
So you know what you saw
I'm going Among Us. Okay
I think there's an argument for Animal Crossing
in that like hey there was a talk show on it
And stuff like that
Like in terms of good multiplayer
It's not
But
God
So everyone's saying among us,
except me who says Warzone.
I think so, yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
Moving on to best sports slash racing.
For the best traditional and non-traditional sports and racing game.
Dirt 5.
F1 2020,
FIFA 21, NBA 2K21,
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 plus 2.
Guys,
I want it to be Tony Hawk.
More than fucking anything.
This game was so.
and it could have been so bad.
You don't think it is going to be?
I think it is going to be Tony Hawk.
I still think I still think that it has that uniqueness of this that people might vote for.
But like, it's definitely not the most popular.
It didn't sell that well, which is really upsetting to me.
Tim, I want to point out that last year you went on a, you went on a limb and you said crash team racing and everyone disagreed with you.
You're right.
You were right.
I'm going Tony Hawk.
You fucking, you're right.
You're right.
Yeah.
I think about this category, I feel like for the people that are voting, they look at.
at this category and they're like, all right, I've not played FIFA and NBA, but I have played Tony
Hawk because that's the unique sports game here. I feel, I think differentiation is the thing
that's going to win you this category because of the folks voting. So I'm going for that. I'm
going Tony Hawk too. I'm upset that UFC isn't here. Who did you say, Greg? Tony Hawk.
Tony Hawk across the board. Yeah. Hell yeah, man. I'm so bummed because I was trying to look up sales
numbers that didn't seem good.
So I'm like,
are they going to do three?
Is there going to be DLC of consequence?
I hope.
I hope.
But I don't think so.
Best sim slash strategy.
Best game focused on real time or turn-based simulation or strategy gameplay,
irrespective of platform.
Crusader Kings 3, Desperados 3, gears tactics,
Microsoft flight simulator, X-com, chimera squad.
What a weird genre, our weird category this is?
Because like, you have all these,
Turn-based strategy games and you have Microsoft Fight Simulator, which is not that.
And like, it's weird.
I understand why they put these together because it's like, oh, we just got to put these.
We got to put these games somewhere.
But like, I personally would.
Yeah, I would say Fight Simulator, even though it's nothing like the other stuff.
Like, I can't say Microsoft Flight Simulator is better than these other games because they're not comparable.
But I think that's what's going to win.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
I think what happens is because Crusader Kings 3 has a has 10 out of tens.
Like, I know that game was reviewed phenomenally,
but I think that ends up probably splitting the vote
with the other actual strategy games
and the Microsoft Flight Simulator being the unique sim here
that also got 10 out of 10s takes it.
Yeah.
Across the board, we all agree.
Yeah.
Moving on.
Best family game for the best game appropriate for family play,
irrespective of genre platform.
Animal Crossing New Horizons.
Crash Bandicoot 4 is about time.
Ball Guys Ultimate Knockout, Mario Kart Live, Home Circuit,
It's Minecraft Dungeons or Paper Mario, the origami king.
It's an animal crossing.
No stopping.
No stopping for Animal Crossing.
Yeah.
Not even a chance.
Bless.
Oh, he's going to get spicy.
Parmy wants to get spicy and go for all guys.
But...
Not a chance.
Hmm.
I mean, this is just the Nintendo category, right?
Like, this is the category Nintendo pretty much always wins.
because last year is Luigi's Mansion
actually last year was all Nintendo nominees
Best Family I feel is just a weird name for a category
Because I read that and I'm like
Okay the best game to play with your family
And then looking at the actual description
It is best game that is appropriate for family play
It is best game where you're not shooting a gun
Exactly
And so I guess Animal Crossing New Horizons
Boom
Now we got
Best Fighting game
This is a weird one
I hate this category so much.
This is like, okay, most people do do not say things.
Like, this is actually offensive.
For the best game designed primarily around head-to-head combat,
Grand Blue Fantasy versus Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate.
Street Fighter 5, Champion Edition.
One Punch Man, a hero nobody knows.
I'm waiting for this one.
Here Tim pronounce this.
Oh, Lord, Jesus.
Underlight.
I'm sorry, under night in-birth, EXE.
late
CLR
you're there
you're there
you got it you got it
great great
uh
among people who know
I think it's gonna be
under night
I don't know how do those people
who are actually voting though
yeah
yeah
I put mobile fantasy versus
was good
it was good
it was good
it would just
among fighting game enthusiasts
I think it'll be like
so there's I think
two audiences
voting on this
there's people who were
fighting game enthusiasts
and everyone else
I think everyone else is going to vote moral combat.
But I think the fighting game enthusiast
and if they're the ones who are just like, hey,
the people like Al was saying,
hey, you vote on,
you choose to vote for this one because you're the one who knows.
I think it'll be Undernight.
See,
I think Undernight in birth clear,
as far as I understand,
compared to the previous entries is not,
it's not necessarily like a sequel sequel.
It's more like an expansion.
And so like I feel like comparing it to Mortal Kombat 11 Aftermath,
which came out this year.
Like I look at Aftermath,
And I'm like, okay, cool.
This is a great substantial, like, story added to this already amazing package.
And this year, you also get a next-gen version of Mortal Kombat.
And so, like, I don't know.
If I was a fighting game person, I wouldn't, I'd feel kind of split.
I'd probably ultimately go Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate, no pun intended.
But I think, yeah, it's between that and Undernight and probably some people go in Grand Blue.
And then Street Fighter fans going Street Fighter.
And then nobody going one punch man because that game was terrible.
Yeah, that one's weird there.
Last year's Smashwriters
Now I get to say it's nominated
Now I can just slap it on the box
Game Wars is nominated
So upsetting
Yeah Mortal Kombat was on last year's list
But ultimately lost to Smashwether
So I could see for that reason
It winning this one
But I'll still stick with it tonight
Ooh
Wes, what are you going?
I'm going Mortal Kombat
There
It's upsetting that I think
Hold on I got to look this up
I actually say
Because I think
Them's fighting herds
Might have came out this year
It was supposed to be at Evo
But Evo got canceled
So
Or maybe you got maybe
Yeah it was supposed to be at Evo
which is why I bring it up because that's the game that kind of came out of nowhere.
I guess it's been out for a little bit,
but has been basically building and becoming more popular.
But that's the game what would have expected to see here,
at least over One Punch Man,
which I feel like is also barely a fighting game.
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Next up, best role playing for the best game designed with rich player character customization and progression, including massively multiplayer experiences.
Final Fantasy 7 remake, Genshin Impact, Persona 5 Royal, Wasteland 3, Yakuza like a dragon.
So let's just go ahead and, yeah, let's toss Wasteland out that it's fine, it's fine, it's not going to win.
I think, I doubt Genshin Impact will win.
so I think ultimately this thing is between
FF7% of 5 and Yakuza
and I'm
gonna predict FF7 right away
Yeah 100%
Because I think
I mentioned this I think to you
and Ron on a post show that like
I think the people that played FF7
are also the people that played Yaku's like a dragon
and I think those people have a preference
I think those people are probably already
Final Fantasy fans and
probably had way more of a connection with Final Fantasy
7 remake than Yaku's Like a Dragon
and so
I don't even think there's a competition here.
I think Persona 5 Royal is kind of an interesting modifier to the situation
because I know so many people love Persona 5 Royal,
but it being more so in expansion than a new original title,
I think probably hampers it a little bit.
I mean, your roommate has a Persept of 5 tattoo.
That's true.
And I might, I would think about getting one.
I would consider it.
I don't think F-O-7 remake is so divisive
that it could be in-game of the year
and people not want it for RPG of the year.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if it got enough votes to be that nomination,
I think it wins this one handily.
But I do think if there is a possibility of insurgency,
it would be persona 5.
As much as I like Yakuza 7,
much as I think it's one of the best games of the year,
I think persona 5 will probably be the one
to usurp FSA 7 from this category.
But I will, I'll place my best
on episode for this one.
Yeah.
Action Adventure. For the best action-slash-adventure game
combining combat with reversal and puzzle-solving.
Assassin's Creed Ball.
Ghost of Tsushima.
Marvel's Spider-Man
Miles Morales.
Ori and the Will of the Wisp's
Star Wars Jedi
Fall in Order.
Last of Us Part 2.
You can't lose.
I know.
What a list of games
right there.
I didn't pee.
I'll be very back
and think about this.
Well, if he's going away,
I want to fill my coffee.
Blessing, tell people about your shirt.
So this is a Super Mario
35 anniversary shirt.
I got it in the mail.
because I'm not even entirely sure.
From cake worthy.
From cake worthy?
Is it a cake?
Okay.
Because Greg was the one that got me.
Because Greg just messaged me.
It's cool.
You look rad.
Oh, thank you.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
I don't wear flannels as much as I should.
And I figure now that I'm going to try and grow a beard.
I should wear more flannel because I know that's part of the beard culture.
Are you as a shirt?
He has to know.
Are people telling you how good you're looking?
Like, it's starting to build up in a good way.
You're going to look great.
I hope so, man.
Because I'm so self-conscious.
The fact that I'm not going anywhere is the thing that's got me going.
Because I don't know, like, I'm not, who am I looking good for?
What you need to do, Blessing is put one picture of you with other beard on Tinder,
then the other picture of you with the beard on different accounts and see which one gets the most like, you know,
like responses.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I kind of like this idea.
That's actually a really good move.
It's actually a really, really good move.
Yeah.
But I really like the flannel.
So shout out to Greg Miller for making this happen, getting this for me.
Yeah.
My girlfriend, Greb also got a dress and is like really, really cute as hell dress of like Mario, Mario 3 art, I think.
Yeah, Greg sent me the picture or like the the images of the different selections and I saw that there was a Mario 3 dress and I was like well Mario 3 is my favorite 2D Mario and so like what if I just got the dress instead of the flannel.
Hey man, live your life.
How awesome would it have been if you ordered it?
But like just for hoping whoever you date next.
Like you just got it and like put it away.
You like wait and like you know what I mean?
And then you give the gift and they're like, oh my God, this is so great.
And they look it up, like, this came out three years ago.
Yeah, that's weird.
Like the creepy stalker music plays in the background, like, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Where are we at with this?
Oh, we haven't started.
We haven't even talked about it yet at all.
Got it.
We don't want to do the show without you.
I'm leaning towards ghost.
And like, I might be screwing myself out of this because we always play this game.
And I feel like we're getting to that point in the predictions here.
Yeah, you're overthinking it.
You're over thinking it.
Well, if it's going to win game of the year,
it doesn't,
that people are voting differently for all this stuff.
So maybe I go last of us too here.
Because I think Jedi Fallen Order is too old.
Yes.
Not enough people would vote for it.
With all their respect to,
it's somebody who said the Jedi Fallen Order
was his game of the year last year.
It doesn't,
it's not one of the best games this year.
Yeah.
This year was a way better year for games this year.
I think between Assassins,
Creed and Ghost,
both people would say ghost.
Yeah.
I think Miles is too recent.
and it's too Spider-Man.
It's too much of the old game,
which is so a great game,
but I don't think it differentiates itself enough
to win this category.
So for me, process of elimination,
I get between Ghost and Last of Us 2.
I think if Ghost is going to win anything,
it would be this.
I'm going Last of Us 2.
I'm going Ghost.
I'm so split because I want to go one of those
and I don't know which.
Because I think, can I say,
though,
It's a shame that none of us have said ori.
Like, none of us think Ori is the win, but I think Ori is like very deserving of a winning spot.
Ori is fantastic.
It is such a good game.
But as all of us have said a million times now, when we played it, it wasn't at that point.
And like now it's fixed.
Now it's better.
But like I think that when people are voting, not everyone have that experience of playing the better version.
Yeah.
Like when I think of Ori, I still do think of like every time I'd try to open up a menu and it would
stutter and all that stuff.
And like, it's a shame that that's still my memory of it because I know it's a great
game.
But yeah, like,
looking at this category, like,
Greg mentioned it, right?
Like, there's no, there's no bad choices here.
Like, any of these games could win, and it's like, cool.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I don't know.
I want it to be Ghost of Sushima,
because I want Ghost to Shima to win something.
But I, I'm going to go Ghost to Sushima.
Greg Miller.
For me, it's between Ghost and Spider-Man.
Really?
Yeah, I feel like it's similar to what we're talking about of like all these games.
How do you give them a nod?
For a while, I thought assassins and ghosts.
Then I whittled it down to there.
But I think ghosts had such lasting problem to say ghost.
I think it had such, I mean, it's like we've all said a million times.
Can't lose.
But like, Ghost obviously had such a fucking great single player campaign.
Legends was so good.
It's had long enough to gestate and for people to really understand how great it is.
I think Assassin's Creed, as much as I enjoy it,
when I play it, I'm like, oh, man,
ghost really ate their lunch.
Like, ghost did this stuff so much better.
Best action game.
For the best game of the action genre
focused primarily on combat.
Doom Eternal, Hades,
Half Life Alex, Neo2,
Streets of Rage,
Four.
I think it'll be Hades.
Me too.
Yeah, I think this is where Hades is going to win.
I'm a little baffled by how
Dimiturnal made it to so many categories
in the first place,
but like,
I think this is an excellent game.
It is an excellent game.
I don't think it's one of the best games of the year.
But I think in this one,
Hades does eat it lunch.
I think Hades is a pure action game
that is just incredibly well loved,
but it plays so incredibly well, too.
And that's going to be what...
People are going to have that game on the brain
when they're voting for this.
They're like, okay, yeah, these games are fine,
but like Neo didn't really resonate.
A lot of streets of Rage 4 was very divisive.
I really love that game,
but I love Hades more,
and I expect that that's going to hit with most people.
too.
Innovation and accessibility.
Recognizing software and slash or
hardware that is pushing the medium forward by
adding features, technology, and content
to help games be played and enjoyed by an even wider
audience. Also, shout out for having this as
a category. That is super freaking awesome.
The nominees are
Assassin's Creed Valhalla, grounded,
HyperDot, Last of Us Part 2,
and Watch Dogs Legion. This isn't even a question.
Last of us without you.
Yeah. The same is not. Hyperdot
was, I'm joking. No, actually, HyperDot
actually a very competitive thing here.
Because it's like built for the accessibility control.
I worked PR for that game.
Like throw that out there right now.
But the accessibility option in that game were out of crazy.
They were not as good and less of us.
Because you didn't do your job well, Imran.
Boo, Imran.
I worked in an already outreach.
So it didn't have both of you.
Damn.
Roger asked me for a clipout.
That might be it.
But,
Um, everyone says T-Loo, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Grounded has a really, like the, the reactive of other things.
That's funny, but that's not going to be like the accessibility options last of us two had.
Yeah, I mean, that took it to another level right this year, what last of us part two did.
Yeah, the thing there is like, it took it to another level on a mainstream level where it's like, that is like, there was arguably no game bigger than Last of Us 2 this year and so far.
And for it to put that stuff so center.
stage I think is so key.
I do think that it set the standard for Sony first party titles that so far we've
seen that they've been trying to live up to.
Right.
There have been other titles that I've seen come out after Last is part two that now open
up with the accessibility screen.
And like that is an impressive thing.
I, I, uh, when we're doing like the nominations and stuff, right, like I was kind of
going for Tell Me Why, because I know tell me why I did a good job of before that game came out,
they put out like a Q&A talking about everything they did to handle their portrayal of trans folks in that game.
And like in places where I know people had big complaints about how Lasz was handled some of that stuff,
tell me why kind of had answers for all those things.
Like in terms of, hey, we're going to spoil the game for you.
So you know, like if you're somebody that might receive this stuff a certain way or this stuff might be triggering for you or this content might be X, Y, and Z, right?
Like, we're going to spoil the game.
We're going to put all the information out there for you so you know if somebody is dead
named.
So you know if somebody is suffering something traumatic or is killed or whatever it may be.
And so, like, I kind of wish telling you why I was here for that stuff.
But, you know, I also get that these games also, the games that are list are also great games
as far as accessibility and stuff.
And so.
Best VR slash AR for the best game experience playable in virtual or augmented reality,
irrespective of platform.
dreams
Half-Life Alex
Marbles Iron Man VR
Star Wars squadrons
The Walking Dead Saints and Sinners
Half-Life
I mean without a doubt it's Half-Life right
You saw everybody up in arms
That Half-Life wasn't on the game of the year list
I think it's a shoe-in-to-win best VR
And understandably so
Like if somebody who played it on the index
Like incredible
Yeah half-live-al
The people who vote this one are gonna
Like all the things that did best in VR
that has no competition here.
Exactly.
And I personally think
there, you know,
as somebody who really enjoyed Alex
and you can watch me and Danny's review
as a games cast, right?
Like, I think I was joke
with Mitch online or whatever about it
where he's like, oh man, game of the year,
voters, I see you didn't play Half Life Alex.
And I was like, actually I did.
And I just don't think it's game of the year.
But it's what Imron's talking about, right?
Where what it nails, I mean, for a VR game,
it's head and shoulders above all these VR games.
Best community support.
Recognizing a game for outstanding community
support transparency and responsiveness inclusive of social media activity and game updates slash patches.
Apex Legends, Destiny 2, Fall Guys Ultimate Knockout, Fortnite, No Man Sky, Valerent.
It's a tough one because my gut says Fall Guys.
And I think a lot of that has to do with Fall Guys was a moment.
And so much of that moment came with the social media side of it.
And the transparency that they had about updates and why things were happening this way or that
way where it kind of felt like part of the experience was the social media side.
In terms of updates and patches and all that stuff, it's like, I mean, Fortnite's such a great
thing, but that's more ongoing game than it is about community.
Agreed. 100%. 100%. To be clear, Fortnite, so last year's nominees were Destiny 2, Apex Legends,
FF14, Fortnite, and Rainbow 6th Siege. Destiny 2 was the winner there. So I'm, I'm unsure what
is different this year that would change.
that? For like what like destiny did wrong? Yeah like what what could they have screwed up this year that would have made it like destiny not the best community game.
Well what was last year or forsaken? No last year. Oh yeah. I think so. Yeah. I forget which one was last year. Because I know I think forsaken was really well received and I don't know like beyond light is happening now. Is that the right one? Yeah. And like I don't I don't know what they've been doing like throughout the year and and how they've been sporting that stuff. But maybe if this year isn't as well received as forsaken was last. And I don't know. I don't know what they've been doing like throughout the year and and then. Maybe if this year's isn't as well received as forsaken was last. And. And,
year that probably has an impact but
I'm out of loop with that stuff
what and I think yeah for me that's the thing is I
remember there being more not
more but a big delay this year for destiny
right they were obviously upfront about
that they had longer blog posts
about just what was going on in the community
Dege leaving like
I did they I mean like there's
the community I feel what's interesting about this
is that there's different parts right
where it's like recognizing game for outstanding community store
transparency and responsibilities inclusive social
media and game updates right that's where it gets
weird where I think all of them are doing stuff
from that really well, but I don't know if there's
one that's doing all of it fantastically.
Right? So here's my thing.
And yeah, I agree with you entirely.
I don't think anyone, one of these is doing
across the board better than the rest.
For second with 2018, by the way.
I think shadow people last year.
What Imran's saying about, you know,
Destiny 2 didn't do anything wrong this year.
But I do think that Fall Guys did something
right. That above
and beyond what Destiny 2 did. Because I think
earlier we were talking about the Tim the Tapman and all that
stuff. That was because, I mean, Tim's talented and does a lot of stuff, but like it was a back and
forth with Fall Guys social media. You know, right. Like that was ratcheted up where the,
the eyes were on the, the account, you know, like, and I think that that when you're talking about
community support, like that is supporting the community. Like that is sure, but in like in whose
perspective? Like, are the people who are voting on this going to be the ones who go like,
well, the Fall guy's social media accountant is supporting streamers. So that's why the one it gets in
there. I don't know. I don't know how heavily they wait, like, community voting on this one
versus the other ones. But, like, this one probably should be mostly community voting. And in that
case, I think it comes down to either Destiny or Fall Guys. Yeah. I'm going to stick with Destiny.
I think that's the one. I don't think it did anything different this year. They just like, this is the
year that they, they're more open and honest to be like, hey, we're not with Activision. We're doing
stuff. We're doing our own stuff this year. This is what it's like, this is what the future
of destiny looks like.
I think that works up better than Fall Guys like really great
admittedly social media account.
I'm gonna go Fall Guys.
Bless.
I think Fall Guys had the best social media
like 100% out of these.
But we're talking about game updates and patches.
Like No Man Sky is the one that jumps out.
And I know like No Man Sky has been doing a great job
for years with that stuff.
But I think especially this year and with the next gen version,
I think that sticks out a bit.
See, I would have thought it would have been last year.
with beyond.
Or next.
No Man Sky Next.
That was the one that brought VR and did a whole bunch of stuff.
Like I thought that would have been the year.
Like, and now I feel like no main sky's already so established and everybody knows it's
a comeback story and that they listen and build all the shit.
Yeah, they've done more, but you get that one breakthrough of like, look at this giant update
we did and how crazy it is.
Yeah, the next gen version's out and all the other things.
But it's like, you expect it to be great.
Yeah.
They go above that.
And I look at Apex Legends.
I think Apex Legends has kind of a split in terms of how people have received.
the community support because I know there's a lot of complaints about them not churning out enough content.
Yeah, it's like real up and down in terms of how people receive that stuff.
Like people hated the last battle pass because I think like it took, yeah, like five games to go up one level or something of that.
Yeah, like I just thought people were hit, because we were talking about Apex on KHG recently, people were hit me up and being like, hey, just so you know the battle pass, in some ways it's kind of fucked.
And so I think that probably receives or that that probably affects a little bit how people will view it in terms of best community support.
Valerant, I have no idea what's going on there.
Which probably doesn't speak great for community support.
Yeah.
Like if nobody's heard of what they do with the community.
Like as far, everything I hear about Valerite and the community is usually bad,
which like maybe that's just what makes a news,
but I don't see that suddenly like, you know,
winning this award because of that.
Yeah, I guess I'm going to go fall, guys.
Best mobile game for the best game playable on a mobile device.
Among us, call Judy Mobile.
Genshin Impact, legends of Runeitarian.
and Pokemon Cafe Mix.
I think this one's either going to be Genshin Impact or Among Us.
I think it's Among Us.
I think this is the easy one for Among Us because it's one of those that even as we've debated,
you know, it's other appearance here, right?
Like this is the one where I think it stacks up and you're like,
all right, here's where we can honor it.
It is this thing that everybody's played, all these crazy downloads,
the way it works and interfaces with, you know, the phone to PC and everything else.
I think this is where Among Us takes it easy.
I'm going with Among Us, but I do want to bring up the
memory serves correctly. Call of Duty mobile
did win last year. And I feel like that's
one that we would just write off as like, there's no way
it's actually going to do. A lot of people play it. I do know people
who play there. I'm split between
Call of Duty mobile and among us. In the same way
that for best multiplayer, I think I was split between
Call of Duty, Modern
Warfare, Warzone, whatever, and
among us, just because like those are two
huge player bases and like
this year those are two of the biggest games.
I'm so
I think
Genschen Impact, but I'm going to go with
I'm sorry, I think Among Us, I'm going to go with Gingin Impact.
Because I feel like when people are looking for things to vote for, they're thinking
what is a big mobile game?
Like, not necessarily big in terms of audience, but big in terms of like a game that doesn't
seem like it should be long on mobile.
And I think they're going to go into it.
Substantial.
Okay, so bless.
Did people like Pokemon Cafe Mix?
No.
That's what I thought, right?
I think that one's like, we got to put something.
Like we gotta have the
Get around this out
What other mobile games were there
I'm gonna go among us
Though I feel like I'm fucked up
And probably should have gone college duty
In fact you know what?
Take it back
Too late you said
I want to be spicy
I want to be spicy
I want to get more points than y'all
I'm going to be
I think that's a good call of us
Like honestly
I mean honestly
Last year of College Duty winning over
Grindstone Sainar Wildheart's
What the Golf Sky
Like that was surprising
It could happen again really easily
Like that's our Wildhearters is great
and like sky is cool and like the other games you mentioned cool but I don't know if I'd put them up
against college duty mobile what would you put them up against among us see that's like that's that
that's the thing you see is been playing call a duty mobile yeah but I'm sure some other
politician is playing called duty mobile we just don't know about I'm sure I'm sure Joe Biden is
like he's clicking heads left and right out there yeah he's ranked 20 or whatever which
isn't that high but he's ranked best indie game for outstanding
creative and technical achievement in a game made
outside the traditional publisher system.
Carry on.
Fall Guys ultimate knockout.
Hades. Spolunky 2.
Spirit Fair.
Hades.
Hades.
With a chance of Splunky 2, maybe.
Sponky 2, I feel like that game got screwed
worse than the game I've ever seen, like,
at least this year. Because, like, that game is amazing.
It is fantastic.
It came out a week before Hades.
And just the competition just dropped.
Just immediately, just entirely.
That's a very good point.
That's a very good point.
Yeah, like,
Fall Guys is the weird one for me where I think that a lot of people are going to want to offer.
But Hades just does have so much backing and support behind it.
I'm going, like, yeah, Haiti's across the board.
I feel like you guys are overestimating fog.
Like, maybe it's just my perspective, but like nobody talked about that game of the first month.
It just, it died.
When you look at stream,
streamers it did not die every day there are thousands of people watching and it's like that's a that's a big
part of all this but like the voting process does get weird because it's like how many streamers are
like people paying attention to streams are voting for this i don't know best ongoing game
awarded to a game for outstanding development of ongoing content that evolves the player
experience over time apex legends destiny two college duty war zone fortnight no
sky. Imron, can you remind me who won last year?
Okay, let me look it up. My browser is being slow because Discord's open.
But go ahead, Doc.
I'm voting Fortnite.
My heart says Fortnite.
What a huge, I mean, especially ending with this Marvel thing. And granted, yeah, it's just
Fortnite being Fortnite doing Fortnite things, but Fortnite still those amazing fucking things time and
time again.
Last year's winner was Fortnite.
Ooh. Yeah, my heart says Fortnite. My brain kind of says war zone.
Me too.
Because it's new and fresh and very popular.
What is your left foot say?
I'm going to war zone.
The left foot says destiny.
I'm going to go Warzone.
Just because I think, and I know the folks who are voting aren't looking at last year and
being like, oh, well, Fortnite one then, so let's give it to something else now.
But I think Warzone just sticks out as something that is fresh, new, ongoing, and it has
proven that they can sustain and they have an audience.
I think while voting was happening, Fortnite was probably doing the most interesting stuff
as it's been doing all year.
So I think that probably adds a little bit to it
because that's the time of the Marvel stuff.
And I think that's what the time
Fortnight is making the most news.
So we have Greg and Imran at Fortnite
and we have me and blast at Warzone.
Right? Yeah, right.
Cool.
Games for impact for a thought-provoking game
with a pro-social meaning or message.
If found, Kentucky Route Zero TV edition.
Spirit Fairer.
tell me why through the darkest of times i say spirit fair
this is a tough one though is a tough yeah a tough one i think it's split between tell me why and spirit
fair i'm going to tell me why i've not played enough of these i've played spirit fairer
uh i feel like i think it was best it if it didn't have the combination in best indy
it would probably do fairly well in that one that so i think i'm i'll put it on this one for now i think
guest spirit fair i think spirit fair is the one that's the most popular of these
if found i've heard good things about i started it i didn't really vibe with it kentucky root zero
took forever to come out and then and when it finally didn't got came out as this final thing
another one that i started and i know a lot i had had peers who really liked it i didn't vibe
with it spirit fair when it came out it seemed like a lot of people were playing spirit fair and a lot
of people were talking about spirit fair tell me why i dropped i started it i think i'm midway through
episode two.
I might have,
you know what?
I might have only
finished episode
one,
itself two left to go.
I enjoyed it,
but I wasn't compelled
to come back
and do the rest of it.
And through the darkest times
I'm not familiar with.
I think...
I'm changing to spirit fair
because I feel like
I've heard the most about
tell me why,
because of blessing.
So, Greg,
through the darkest times,
remember that when we were
at the Judges Week?
Uh-huh.
This is that not,
the Nazi Germany game.
Oh,
okay.
Okay.
I think tell me
why it suffers a little bit
from don't nod fatigue.
Just like there's so...
Yeah.
It's not like there's so many all the time,
but there are a lot of them.
This game, I'm sure it is great.
It just doesn't feel that different from like
Life is Strange or Life is Strange too.
Did Life is Strange 2 win games for Impact when it came out?
It was Greece.
Grie.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
Huh.
I mean, I like Greerie, but damn.
Greer should have won best art,
and I don't know why it won Games for Impact instead.
But sure.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
I, hmm, there's another one where my heart says one thing, my brain says another thing,
because like, tell me why, I think for games for impact visibly, like I could, I could tell
you why, tell me why he's here. Spirit Fair is a more popular game and like probably in some
instance, it's probably a better game, but I don't know, for somebody who didn't get far in
Spirit Fair, I don't know what it did for, on the impact side of things. I'm sure it did, but I have
no idea. I couldn't tell you off the bat what the thing Spirit Fair was that puts it in this category.
It's not really pro-social.
I don't, like, honestly, that is a, but it is, it's on a strict list for the same reason
Grie was that it's a game about something.
Is the pro-social message, though, like grief?
Like, isn't that what a spirit fair is all about, right?
Dealing with death.
Like, I understand it's not as on the nose as some of the other games we're here talking.
I should say on the nose, but like, you know, very much like, this is what we're here
to talk about.
I told me why I watched the trailer and I'm like, okay, cool, yeah, I know how this is
going to, like, impact us socially, right?
I know what the message is here.
I'm down to play this for this.
Where Spirit Fair, like off the bat, like looking at the art style,
I'm like, okay, cool, this looks like a fun game
where you're traveling and collecting and doing all this stuff.
Then you play and it was like, no, it was very sad.
I'm thinking about ugly crying.
So when I played spherefare, the first thing I did was hug a person
and that was very comforting for me.
And so I'm going to go Spear Fair.
I'm going to say Spirit Fair when this one.
So are we across the board, Spear Fair?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Best performance.
awarded to an individual for voiceover acting motion and slash or performance capture
Ashley Johnson as Ellie Laura Bailey as Abby
Desuki to Jesus as Jin Sakeh
Logan Cunningham as Hades and Najee Jeter as Miles Morales
There's a lot of high cards in this hand. Yeah, this is another one you can't lose. Yeah, yeah,
great performances all around but I think I think Laura's gonna win. Yeah, I don't it will be Laura Bailey
Like, I personally think it's a little disappointing because I feel like there's a lot of really good choices here.
Not nothing against Laura Bailey.
I just see her a lot of things.
I would like it if somebody who is not one or not been nominated for this before wins.
See, I feel I'm kind of in a similar place when I look at this category because part of me is very bummed that Troy Baker isn't here as Joel.
Because I think Joel's performance in the last part two is fucking immaculate.
Um, but I also get like, we all like, Troy Baker is, I'm.
I'm not positive.
I'm sure he's probably won
before he's or at least has been nominated.
And we see him all the time, right?
Like we love and appreciate Troy Baker
and like, you know,
it's great to see other folks here.
I'm going to go Ashley Johnson as Ellie.
From my prediction.
I think it's going to be one of the last
of this two characters.
Like, for sure.
I don't think it's going to be,
I think it's funny.
They put Logan cutting him as Hades
because he plays like 50 characters in that game.
But I definitely think it's,
it will be either Ellie or Abby, for sure.
Yeah, I'm going to Abby.
Do you think they've possibly split the vote?
No.
No, I think that they're just on a different level of mainstream voteability
compared to everyone else.
And like even with that, Laura's the new thing.
So.
They're the most expensive performances, so they are going to win.
Oh, that's a shitty way to put it.
The performances are awesome.
The performances are awesome.
Yes, I know.
The performances are good, but that's going to be like,
Mads Mikkelson won last year.
Maddickleson was not the best performance in that training.
They were better performances that game.
He came in and pretended to be Santa Claus to your baby in a jar.
All right.
That was pretty fucking dope.
Don't forget that.
All right.
I think honestly, like I'm, I think it'll be Laura.
I would vote Laura.
And then I think a close runner up for me is Naji Jeter as Miles Morales.
I thought my,
I thought his performance was fucking killer in Miles Morales.
I think so anywhere.
I really didn't enjoy his performance.
Miles for Alice. I'm kind of with you, Tim.
I think that it, like, his take on it
is, I feel like it doesn't
fit the character. And maybe that's because we're so fresh off of
Spider-verse. But they treat the character
similarly enough that, like,
what he does and how he acts,
where I just, I just don't, like,
it comes up a little too nerdy, which I get he's a nerdy
guy, but I don't know.
I don't think it works when he's like fighting villains. I think it works
great when he's interacting with the neighborhood.
Yeah.
I liked it all.
I thought he felt not the actor, but the performance had Miles being unsure of himself
in the suit, which I dug.
And I like that feeling.
I liked that back and forth.
And I thought he walked the line, no spoilers, between Miles' private life and Miles
Spider-Man life and the waves of emotion between all that.
Like I said, you know, in our review or whatever again, no spoilers, don't worry about it.
Like, you know, I, the next morning talking to Jen and explaining everything that happened,
I got choked up and nearly cried twice.
and both of those were drawn off of what he was going through as Miles.
I liked that performance so much.
Yeah, like I didn't dislike his performance,
but I think when I compare it to some of the best performances of the year,
I look at Ellie and I look at Abby,
and I even look at like a lot of the characters in Hades.
And I think I see way more range there as far as the emotion that's being portrayed
and the lengths that some of these performers are going to
that I never felt like it got out of Miles,
more so because like not even,
like there's no point in Spider-Man Miles Morales,
where Miles is like suffering,
like some of these other characters are in their games.
And so, like, you know,
he didn't necessarily have the option to, like, go there.
But even in the moments where he is being Spirited Man,
or he's being Miles,
like, some of this performance read to me is almost,
like, too innocent, like, too clean.
I know Miles is, like, a great dude and, like, a hero,
and doesn't really have an ounce of negativity or evil in him.
But, like, I don't know, at a certain point,
I was like, man, this guy is really like,
hey I'm Miles Morales and like that's kind of the the direction that I got out like that all that that that's it
I do want to go back to what I was saying a little bit earlier about the expense of performance is one of the things we do when voting is we unconsciously tie
quality performance to how well it's like vocabpt and portrayed and stuff like that because the video games aren't interactive are a visual medium in many ways so like arthur morgan won in 2018 uh madd mickleson won last year I think that's that trend will probably continue and in that case I think last of
runs away with it. It's the question of which last of us does.
Yeah. I go
I go Ellie mainly because
I think she is
probably the more popular character
even though I personally liked Abby better in the game
but I think if
I think we're just talking about like if people had to choose
between Abby and Ellie for a
character they're going to vote for in a thing. I think people are going to
go Ellie because she's more popular.
I think they'll go Abby in this one.
Because they're both immaculate
in it but yeah I go
I go lower for sure. I want to give a shout though
to Briano White as Ayrth in Fall Patsy 7 remake.
I'm a little shocked.
Oh, yeah.
No Final Pne C7.
Oh, yeah.
Was nominated here.
But I get it.
It was, again, like Greg said earlier, you can't really go wrong on this.
Like, but man, Airth was awesome.
Next up, we have audio design.
Recognizing the best in-game audio and sound design.
Doom Eternal, Half-Life Alex, Ghosts, Zashima, Resident Evil 3, Last of Us Part 2.
I go Last of Us.
Agreed.
Dume Turtle confuses me a lot.
Because I remember reporting multiple times
during the year that there are issues with
audio mixing and controversy around that
stuff and like that stuff wasn't as good as Doom
2016. And
I feel like that's affected nothing when it comes to his
nominations. I mean, when you punch a guy,
it sounds good. Yeah.
Yeah. And when I was playing the game, I was kind of like
oh yeah, no, this is good. Like I don't notice anything
wrong, but I remember reading the stories. This isn't
terrible. This is okay. Yeah. Like reading
the stories, people wrote like the audio is terrible.
Put it into audacity. Look how flat the lines
and like in the game it's like
it seems fine but I guess
I don't know I'm not an engineer so
I mean that's the thing about audio design
is that you don't notice it until somebody knows it
for you and like I think in that case
like we I think we that started
Sam market made it last year with Call of Duty
and that was right
so I think this year
they make it
people talk a lot about
last of us is audio design
I think that's what's going to win
because people talk about it a lot
and it's also emaculate
again going back to it last of us too
was such an achievement in so many ways.
And like you can dislike the game for not liking the gameplay loop or not liking the story
or whatever.
You can't dislike it for its technical achievements.
Oh, yeah.
It is from an audio perspective, like, oh my God, the 3D audio in that game is legitimately
next level.
Like, now we're in the PS5 next gen of what 3D audio is.
But like, Lasso was too was phenomenal.
I actually bet Half Life Alex probably really competitive and maybe even better.
Never played it.
Can't say.
Yeah.
I played it. I don't think it was better.
Okay.
So all of us, Tulu?
Yeah.
This is where this is, you start getting to the top categories.
I feel like this is where last year starts piling out.
Tewu and Hades, I think, are going to be, once you get into these categories, are going to
probably take a lot of, a lot of way.
Interesting.
Best score and music for outstanding music, inclusive of score, original song and or licensed
soundtrack.
Do Maternal, Final Fantasy 7 remake.
Hades.
Ori and the Will of the Wisp's.
Last was part two.
It should be.
It should be FF7.
FF7.
You know what, man?
Because I was going to go Hades off the bat,
just because that game has been a phenomenon.
But the fact that we all just off the bat said it should be FF7,
I'm going to predict FF7 because I think a lot of people are going to feel the same way.
Yeah, I'm going FF7.
Honestly, soundtrack to all these games is phenomenal.
I think Doom Returnal had the issue that Bless was talking about,
and a lot of people argued that Doom 2016 had a better soundtrack.
But anything I've heard from Mitt kicks ass,
Yeah, it still kicks ass is the thing.
Like, playing it, I was still like, this soundtrack is phenomenal.
I didn't notice anything.
But, you know, BFG Division from Doom 2016 is still a slapper.
I do wonder how does F.7, unlike Greg, I guess there's a question I'm asking you.
How does it sound when you remove it from nostalgia?
Like, how was that soundtrack without like, oh, God, this is Aeros theme kind of thing?
I have absolutely no recollection of it and would have not.
I wouldn't have even thought of it for this category.
and I mean of these of these right now trying to pick a nominee or whatever like I obviously like you know I know it was good or whatever I will I want to give a shout to OIA in the Will of the Whisp because I have that on my Spotify like most listen to thing like the soundtrack to this game is high up there and but to be fair the only reason five Fancy seven remake didn't beat it is because it's not on Spotify I you know what I'll go with you I'll say it for seven remake because even if it doesn't win it won in my heart at last
I'm going to choose an interesting one where I feel like it kind of has a real, real good chance.
Go for a chance for sure.
I'm going to say Last of us part two.
That's where I think.
I think, you know, I think again, all these games have great soundtracks and I can see any of them winning, with the exception to do maternal probably, even though I know it kicks and fucking goes.
But like, I think Last of us with both the Gustavo stuff that is so iconically last of us, but then also like how important guitar is in that game and how important future days is that, of course, is from Pearl Jam featuring Eddie Vedder.
And that's why he'll be a game wards.
I think it's, I think there's something going on there.
And I think this is what, like we're saying, where they start taking off.
Haiti, Eric, what do you fight the Air Buster boss and still more fighting plays and
it's fucking dope rock orchestral operatic remix?
I don't know, man.
No, you're right, though.
I get it.
It is going to be between the two of them.
Don't overthink it.
Go for mainstream.
It'll be funny if they do have any better present this award.
Like, Last of it doesn't win.
I laugh.
So I at least hope for that.
Well, who's the thing?
Is he presenting the award?
I don't know.
You don't know what he's doing.
Because they always do the Game Awards orchestra thing where they do for a game of the year,
they play music from each of the games.
I think we're going to hear future days.
It's part of that medley.
Yeah.
We'll see.
Also, Darren Corb, you can't underestimate him.
The composer over at, uh, uh, Hades, Super Giant.
Super Giant.
Yeah, the composer over at Super Giant.
He is fucking phenomenal.
and people like you have you have him as a as a person that is attached to him as an artist that people know right i know
final fantasy has the same thing but like i think a lot of folks are going to vote for hades because like you know darren corb is this dude who can make great music in the music in that game is great obviously
uh best art direction for outstanding creative and or technical achievement and artistic design and animation bob c7 remake ghostess
Shima, Hades, ori in the will of the wisp's, the last was part two.
What of.
Man, that's a great category.
I would give it to all of them if I could.
It's a great category, but I think Ori still stands above it.
I'm leaning towards Ori just because it is the most art looking of all of them.
Yes, it is the most art.
But is that enough?
I think most people are going to go like, I really want to put Ori's somewhere, and this is the best place to put it.
I would not be shocked if in terms of nominations it ran ahead of the rest.
That's why I'm with Imron's argument,
but that's what I apply to Goses Sashima,
where I think,
you know,
the noir filter,
those,
you know,
lush yellows.
Like when I think of that game,
I think of riding through the field,
right,
and seeing that color palette expand
and change the wind flowing through the areas.
Yeah,
I think that's where people are able to go,
oh,
that's what we want to,
we want to give it something this year.
We want to honor it there.
God,
I wish,
I wish legends came out at launch,
because I know people voting
probably mostly didn't play.
Legends and the
shift in art direction from
Goshena proper to Ghostosha
Legends is insane
especially when you get into the raid and you start to see
their uses of red and you start to see
pools of blood and all this different shit that's
like very dynamically
different but still holds the same
like feel and tone of
proper Ghostos Sushima but like the opposite of it
where instead of like these serene
environments you get the fucking aggressive
like here are demons and here's
blood and here's fucking tragedy and all this shit.
Like, it is very well done and very striking.
And it would probably be,
probably be my pick for this category,
but I don't know if it's going to get it.
Because I don't think most people played it.
Legends specifically.
This is another category.
Everything's so good.
But I want to give a shout out to Last of Us 2
for technical achievement and artistic design and animation.
The animation in that game is insane.
Nottie Dogg's always been so crazy with that.
Like, I remember being at a game spot,
playing uncharted as a demo for the first time
and like you get into the water and you get out
and his jeans were wet.
Yeah.
And it was just like, oh my God.
That was 2006, seven, right?
2020 playing this game, every moment was that.
Oh shit, there was an animation for that.
Oh my God.
They actually animated this that way.
Like it was just such a ridiculous achievement.
But I don't think it's going to win because it is the argument that we keep making.
I think it is going to win other things and they're not thinking of it
way because it lacks the art you know it lacks the like colors really that's what it is
it's not as like vibrant standout like it is like it's technically probably the best it's probably
technically the best like art direction on this list i don't know man have you played oria 6k like
that game is that's true i'm not that is more impressive than pretty much i think i see it on this list
let's go through this greg what do you say i'll sing with ghost bless
So hard because I look at Final Fantasy 7 remake.
And I like, there's one scene when Barrett is like looking at the camera without his
sunglasses on.
And I remember being like, that is a handsome man.
Like the fact that they were pull, uh, pull off the fact that these characters look as
good as they do is very impressive.
But then also I look at Hades and like, if we're talking about art, oh my God, the art
in that game is fantastic.
I'm going to go Hades.
I'm going to Rory.
Same.
Best narrative.
for outstanding storytelling and narrative development in a game.
13 Sentinels, Iguess Rim.
Final Fantasy 7 remake, Ghost of Sushima,
Hades, Last of Us Part 2.
This will be Last of Us.
Agreed.
Yeah, it'll be last of us.
I mean, that game is divisive,
but I don't think it's divisive on critics.
Yeah.
Like that game's stories specifically.
Totally.
Across the board, T.LU2.
Best Game Direction,
awarded for Outstanding Creative Vision,
innovation in game direction and design.
Fall Fantasy 7 remake, Ghosts of Tsushima, Hades, Half-Life Alex, Last of Us Part 2.
It's Last of Us.
But I want to be fucking Final Fantasy 7, man.
Final Fantasy 7 had no right actually coming out and being as good as it was.
It's a shock.
There's a chance to be Final Fantasy 7.
We talked about this last year.
And we always think, like, best game direction usually, this should be game of the year,
but we want to give game of the year to something else.
Yeah.
The way I started thinking about it is
Game Direction is best game
Whereas Game of the Year is like
What the fuck is the game of the year?
Like what game defines this year?
Mm-hmm.
I think it's Last of Us here.
I think it'll be Last of Us here.
I think this is the one they're going to be like
They'll bring Neil Druckman out on stage
And like he'll accept the award and it'll be like
Yeah, it's Neil Druckman.
Here's the person who associate with Last of Us
And like that'll be this thing
Like it was for Kajima and Destraining last year.
I agree. I think it'll be last as part two for this one.
Last of us. Across the board.
And then finally, game of the year, baby.
Game of the year, game of the year.
A game that delivers the absolute best experience across all creative and technical fields.
Doom Eternal, Final Fantasy 7 remake, Ghosts of Sushima, Hades, Animal Crossing New Horizons,
The Last of Us, Part 2.
I think there's three legitimate possible choices here.
Which would be?
Hades, Animal Crossing, and Last of Us.
I think those are the three that are going to be like the ones people are really voting for.
I think Animal Crossing is probably the most impactful game of 2020.
Like, it is by far the most popular.
I'm pretty sure it at this point is the best selling of Glast Cobdini is sold it by this point.
It is the game that like represents the year of COVID, of all of us staying inside of,
Like, here is the game that just says what games are.
And I think by that virtue, it might get a lot of votes.
But last year it was Sekiro and none of us expect to Sekaro.
So I don't want to like this really go with the expectations.
And my heart says Hades.
My head says Last of Us.
So while you guys are debating that, I'm going to try and remember figure out which one of those I agree with.
My thing is I think the vote is going to be split every which way with the exception of Dume Eternal.
I think Duma Trenel is going to get the least of the votes.
I then think that Final Fantasy 7 and Ghosts are going to battle it out at that second tier.
I do think that there is then a top tier.
I think Hades is the game that a lot of people are going to vote for,
and that means they're not voting for something else.
So it's going to take away from one or the other,
and I think it's going to take away from Last of Us, not from Animal Crossing.
So it's going to be a close race between Last of Us and Animal Crossing,
but I think at the end of the day, it's Last of Us.
I think it's
as well.
That didn't help me at all.
So I think we're kind of
underestimating Final Fantasy 7 here a bit
because I think
not only was it an amazing game,
I think the connection
a lot of people
that are going to be voting have
with Final Fantasy 7 in general,
like even just separated for remake,
Final Fantasy 7 as a thing
and Final Fantasy as a franchise
is going to
outweigh both Doom Eternal
and Ghost of Shima
by far.
Like I think Ghosts of Shihersi,
and Doom Eternal probably can be the last two in terms of this category.
And then the top four are going to be between the remaining four.
I think the top two is going to be between Hades and the last part two.
Because Hades is that game when we talk about critics and talk about the people that are voting in this category.
Hades is the game that everybody wants to win.
I think Hades is the game that everybody is holding hands on and is agreed on that, hey, this is a fantastic game.
And we all, we're all nerds here.
like we all love the type of game this is
from the art direction from the story
from the actual gameplay. And last part two,
I feel like it's just
mainstream and divisive enough
that people look at it and they look at Hades
and they're like, you know what, man?
Like, Hades is just a game that we love.
Let's go, let's give it to Hades.
I feel like people want that type of game to win.
And the same with that, like last year
Untitled Goose game, and I don't want to compare
those two games because I know Hades is way
better than the Tattled Goose game.
But the way that Untitled Goose game ran away
with quite a few Game of Wars last year.
I think Hades gets that kind of treatment
as far as people wanting something different, new, and dynamic.
The more we talk about this,
the less I think Hades has any actual chance period.
Really?
Yeah, because I think that, like,
there's going to be the very loud people
that are standing up for Hades
because it is a critical darling
and, you know, the people that know about it,
love it. Not enough people are going to know about it.
And those people are going to vote for it,
and it's not going to be nearly a majority.
And like, bless bringing up Fall Fantasy 7.
When you talk about Falun Fantasy 7 and Last of Us 2, which without thinking too hard,
are probably my number one and two game of the years.
I think that when we're talking about the divisiveness between them,
what Imran brought up earlier is the critics aren't divided on Last of Us.
It's the audience.
And when we're talking about the New York Times, when we're talking about all this stuff,
they're all on Last of Us 2.
The critics are the ones divided on a Palm Fantasy 7 remake,
including the fans too, but so are the critics.
Right.
A board of critics
and like I say this with as much love as possible
as someone who really loves 5-67 remake
they're not going to give a Tetsu Yenomura game
game of the year. Like it's
not going to happen. I
will say
the discussion for Last of Us part two
was centralized in June.
Like that was when that game was talked about
and then after that nobody really talked about that game.
Maybe it's because all the discourse was done. Maybe that's the case.
But like, Hades is a lot fresher in people's minds.
and like
Greg you said last of us too right that was your choice
correct yeah if you're going for the more
mainstream argument why is that not animal crossing
uh because i mean
we're talking into the weeds
i think for maybe i'm wrong for what a past gregg's talking about
but i think past Greg's talking about uh you know
the other categories where i started talking about this that and debating where it
would go for game of the year i think you're it's the normal thing of kawakini
like what defined gaming what was the best gaming experience this year what game
pushed the medium forward and I think last of us and arguably did that and I know that's
totally arguable but it is whereas I think Animal Crossing is even more into what you're talking
about in Ron of like Animal Crossing came out and granted we've all can't even play I'm still playing
it doing all these different things but how many other people are like oh I've never I haven't touched
that in months and I jumped in for the event and I left and I did this why did they give us the
even jumping in I don't feel like Animal Crossing is wowing me it's still doing what I want of me moving
shit around my island in my little playbox but I don't think it's like it's like it's
It was an experience.
You don't have a presidential campaign.
Like, you don't see Joe Biden dressing up as Joel.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, to me, this comes back to last year, none of us got Sekaro.
And like, maybe that was just, it was a weak year overall.
And like, that's what it was.
Yeah.
Last year was just two split across everything.
Because no, there was no consensus.
Yeah.
Last year was what, Sekiro control.
And I can't even remember what the other nominees were.
Resident Evil 2.
Oh, yeah.
And that should have won.
Smash Brothers and Outer World.
for some reason made it on there.
That's last year's the maternal.
How do worlds did make it?
Yeah.
Fuck.
I'm going to be controversial.
I'm going to say Hades for this one.
So,
Bless, it's on you.
80s.
Oh.
Yeah.
There we go.
Me and Greg Tilu.
Blessing Imran.
Yeah.
Because I'm still,
I'm with Emron's point as far as how the conversations have gone
for both games, where last and Spartes' conversation
did kind of start and end,
in June slash July where I still see folks on Twitter
and I know like this is a very like
specific group of people I'm talking about
because I'm talking about people that are either in the industry
or that are paying attention to like gaming podcasts
and stuff but I still people on Twitter,
I still see people on Twitter being like
oh yeah I booted up Hades for the first time
yesterday after seeing everybody talk about it
and man like what a game like this is not my favorite game this year
like I see that conversation so much
in a way where I can see Lasso's Part 2
and Animal Crossing maybe split in the Ville
somehow because of popularity like yeah i think i don't know i think when we're talking about critics
and we're talking about people who are voting i think haydies is the one that's taken it away
last year it was fran that was say in secro we all laughed at him you
you then we had that but this year bless i could be wrong and we'll find out next week but i think
that you're you're going to be seeing a reddit post eventually saying you should you should
have went a little more mainstream but we'll see maybe see next
week, baby, because we will be doing a live reaction to the game awards,
Twitch.tv.tv slash Kind of Funny Games. We'll be right there for you. Right now,
we're going to do the Post Show, the Patreon exclusive post show for Patreon.com
slash Kind of Funny Game supporters. Imron. What are you got for us today?
I am pulling from the Imron or ImRite or Imrong, I think is what I named it,
a list that we used last time, and I'd remember which one I've used before. So hopefully,
let's get to it. Until next time. Love you guys. Bye.
Thank you.
