Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Official Game Awards 2020 Predictions and Bets - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 52

Episode Date: December 3, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:06 What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast. As always, I'm Tim Geddes, joined by one of the coolest dudes in video games, Greg Miller. Let's go bonkers for bongos. You know what I mean? Come on. Bongo it up, baby. Bongo it up. You know, every once in a while, I think back to Kind of Funny Live 3.
Starting point is 00:00:25 And I think about the fact that there was a song made about Nick bongoing Kevin's Bear belly. And that we had a thousand people losing their shit and jumping. up and down to Nick slapping Kevin on the belly while Cryo went off and we're all jumping up and down. And it's like if there was one, if we had to describe kind of funny in like five seconds, it would be a giff of that for me. So thank you for bringing that back into my mind, Greg. Anytime I'm happy to be here to put things in your mind.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Kevin nude waist down. Oh, God. The man that is very, very offended by that is, new face of video games blessing at a yoie junior how's it going thanks for having me it's going real good it's going real good and the man that i feel like i haven't talked to in way too damn long the former and former imran con it's been about two weeks yeah that's way too damn long to him i don't i don't like that i don't i need more imran in my life how are you doing i'm doing good i listened to the game's cast last week because i was not on it snow bike like i don't know what you
Starting point is 00:01:31 guys put in his coffee but holy man he went he went off he would like that is a side of snow bike mic i've literally never seen i've done the guy what like two years at this point like it's i think i said on twitter that should be spicy snowback mike or the spicicle i've known him even longer wow even longer than you emron and i've never heard him that amped up with terrible opinions it was insane cool this is a bad controller get the fuck i have respect for anybody who can say that that sort of thing with as much confidence. You know what I mean? Yeah, straight with faces as he can.
Starting point is 00:02:06 If you want to talk about me, a PlayStation fanboy, you know what I mean? People call me a PlayStation fan boy. We're going to fucking listen to this guy. That's a fan boy. That's an ex-Botify ever met one. That's the kind of guy even Phil Spencer's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I love the who the heck is Galactus. Like that was just like such only snow bike might can bring that type of heat. I appreciate it very much. But I'm happy to have you back in run. I don't want to get too. off the rocker here, Greg. But I need to know some facts because I, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:35 we do games daily, this combination of folks right here plus. Oh, actually, great point. I don't know where exactly you're about to go with games, the game's daily reference. Where are you going with it? Do your thing. Blessing in Imran. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Why? Oh, Eddie Vedder. What would he sing at the game awards? Why would he be at the game awards? Why would game? Really? I don't think I need. So what I did not know, he was the one who did the last of a song.
Starting point is 00:03:04 That was just completely, I did not know that. But also, I don't think of Eddie Vedder separately from Pearl Jam, period, like ever. That is not a thing. Is this the conversation we had? Yeah, post show. We were talking about this. Oh. I don't know who Eddie Vedder is.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I know he's from Pearl Jam, and I know Pearl Jam because I used to live in Seattle. That's the only reason I know what Pearl Jam is. So, see, I don't understand. Because this is the thing. You're going to come in. You played this game. You love this game. Blessing you talk.
Starting point is 00:03:27 The narrative backbone of this game is Future Days by Pearl Jam. know what I mean, have your eyes open for a second, listen on one of the spoiler casts. You don't know, that's fine. But then I, Greg Miller, I'm going to get shit when I don't know that Cactus Jack is Travis Scott. And I have no idea what Travis Scott says. That's different.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Everybody knows who Travis Scott is. That's different. Everybody knows who Travis Scott is making a new PlayStation game. I'm very excited about it. I hope it's Melgear. I'm going to out myself worse here because I did. Hold on. I need to cut you off real quick.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You hope that Travis Scott is making Metal Gear. We've been talking about the three years. I get it. I see it. Solid Snake all the way, man. We've been talking about this for you. Tim, I don't think you caught this on yesterday's KPD where we were theorizing. The new story came out that Travis Scott is working on a new PlayStation game. Theoretically, possibly working on a new PlayStation game. And we've been talking about for years what a new Mel gear could be because Kojima is probably done with it.
Starting point is 00:04:22 He probably doesn't want to touch Mel gear anymore. But you need somebody, if somebody's going to tackle that franchise is going to, if somebody's going to make either a new entry or remake or whatever it may be, they have to have vision they have to be a personality right they have to be a leader they have to be a auteur and i think Travis Scott Travis Scott embodies all those things you and i think like i think kojima would be down with it i think if i think cojima's the type dude who's like if i'm gonna sign off on anybody it's going to be somebody who has the the presence of a Travis scott like Travis scott fits that bill also i want him to sing or do a cover of snake eater from
Starting point is 00:04:58 melgersaw three i think that would be a great great presence of a presence of a travis scott. I think that'd be a cover. That would be fantastic. Greg Miller from Kind of Funny. Yeah, Blessing Adioia Jr. from Kind of funny. Did Travis Scott do Old Town Road?
Starting point is 00:05:06 No, that's Lil Nasx. What has Travis Scott done other than made a cheeseburger? Sickle mode. Yes. You know sickle mode. What's that? Make the cheeseburger. He just said barbecue sauce.
Starting point is 00:05:19 It goes. He just said barbecue sauce. Even that wasn't original. Yeah, it wasn't barbecue. It wasn't barbecue sauce. Apparently was mustard ketchup. Yeah, it just showed me a picture. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I just jumped into the sickle mode video about two minutes and 18 seconds in. Someone pull it up. So I'm doing that. What is going on? That's when the beat change of happens, right? Yeah. Dude, that beat change up happens about five times in that song. It is, I've never heard this song.
Starting point is 00:05:48 It is one of the best songs of the last 50 years. I'll put that out there. Can you sing for me so I can kind of get a sense of it? I want to tell you right around the three and a half minute mark, another booty shows up. Wow. Greg, can you focus on the music, not the bodies? Sure. Go back to the zero time stamp.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I need to play it from the beginning because it starts off so elegant. And I think the genius to sickle mode is it starts off with the dopest beat of all time. You're like, oh, fuck. Like this shit is building. Oh, man, we're about to get into some shit. And then right when the beat's about to drop, they take it from you and replace it with an even doper beat. And like, who would have thought of that? right like who would have thought of that there's no artist of the generation that's doing that
Starting point is 00:06:31 that sort of thing and then it switches up again and again and by the time you get to the end of the song you're like am i listening to the same song from the book from before yeah no drake's on the song too there are like five songs at one song oh that's drake i don't know the caprio point like that's drake i know him i know that guy uh this is the kind of funny games cast each and every week right here on youtube.com slash kind of funny games we get together to talk about video games and all the things that we love about them. You can get the show live as we record it by going to patreon.com slash kind of funny games
Starting point is 00:07:06 just like James Hastings, Sancho West Gaming, Julian the Gluten Free Gamer did. All of you also get the show, ad free and with the exclusive post show. What was that wow about? Oh, Greg's jamming. When the beat change happened,
Starting point is 00:07:21 what's the, hold on on, and then Sigelmo, mo, mo, mo, you went into the James Hastings. things things and it matched perfectly where it was like you introduce patreon producers right as the beach change that was crazy uh everybody go if you can find this it's Travis Scott sick oh mode featuring Drake official video on YouTube I've left the comment kind of funny games cast sent me go thumbs that up you know I know that there's probably a percentage of the audience that's really annoyed that we're talking about this right now and there's another percentage that it's all about it so I'm going to take a little little tangent to that just a little further because the
Starting point is 00:07:57 The topic of this episode that we'll get to in just a second is the Game Awards nominee predictions. We're going to go one by one through all of them. We'll all make a predictions. In a couple of weeks, we'll look back and see who is the victor. But before we do that, since we're talking about this music stuff, me and my brother have been having a lively debate over the last couple weeks since the Grammy Award nominees were announced. And I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I do want to just talk to you guys as a group about the song of the year. All right. Bless, do you have any just top level thoughts on this, like off the top of your head?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like for video games? No, no, no, no, no. Grammy Award, Song of the Year. Oh, like actual song of the year for, oh. Yeah. I don't know. And that's fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:41 That's fine. Yeah. Because there's a couple songs of whatever. But what I really just want to bring to this group of people that I, you know, not to insult anyone here, but I'm going to say it's uneducated in the music sphere. Nail on the head, man. The debate me and my brother have is between. Don't start now by...
Starting point is 00:08:59 Don't start now. Nope. By Dua Lipa, by Dua Lita. Don't start now by Dua Lepa. Or The Box by Rottie Rich. Ooh, The Box by Rottie Rich is a good one. But I think you guys are missing out on why. Can you explain to Greg
Starting point is 00:09:16 what the Rottie Rich song The Box is using your mouth? That's it, right? That's like the song is like that's the beat. Oh, fuck, you're getting cut out. You're getting cut out. Do it louder. Do it louder. Can you hear that? Every other one's getting cut out. Oh my God. This is such a fail. This is such a fail. But yeah, you would be nailed this one.
Starting point is 00:09:43 But yeah, it's like, it's eat. I'm making it like an eater sound back and forth. Yeah. And it's like it sounds like people fucking on a bed. Yes. And that's the beat. And it's fucking. It's fucking awesome. I get down. I still think that don't start now is like, that's like a commercial song. is an old Navy commercials. You know what you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. I mean, I don't, I feel like WAP takes both of those, though. Not on the list. Not on the list. Really? Yeah. That's
Starting point is 00:10:10 shocking. I wonder if it missed the time frame. Like that I don't know. I don't know. It seems very ridiculous because I think I would agree with you, blessed. But again, not to reintrodu to the show, but this is the kind of funny gamescast where we talk about video games. So I want to tell you about that. But first, I want to tell you that we are
Starting point is 00:10:28 brought to you by the legendary. of Bumbo, but I'll tell you about that later. For now, let's get right into it. Game Awards, 2020, Greg Miller. Hey, so close. Can I tell you how excited I am for the first time in years to watch the Game Wars with you guys? Holy shit. Wait, we've never done it. That's kind of funny now. Yeah, that's really crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Greg Miller, fancy man, wearing the suits. Taking the best picture he's ever taken that we use for every headshot from now until infinity with the IGN logo behind him. Was that Dice Awards? Those are the words. The host. All right. These are the words I go drink at
Starting point is 00:11:06 and leave three-fourths of the way through. Really long. It's really cold. You don't even stay for the Game of the Year award. I mean, once you get there, you know, it's going to be a Zelda. You know, it's going to be a red. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah, you stay for the whole thing. Hold on. I'm too hot. I got to take off my Christmas sweater. I hate that right. Definitely. Blessings cool shirt. It is a very cool shirt.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Thank you. Happy 30th birthday. Mario. Give us your Mario impression that you gave us earlier. Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:36 The mic is fucking you today, bless. Whatever. Is it not weird? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:11:43 We got some I don't know what's going on. You can go into the settings and lower down the gate.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I thought I turned off the gate. No, there's usually, we set at negative 70 usually,
Starting point is 00:11:55 negative 69. Somewhere around there. Nice. Yeah, nice. Now, Greg,
Starting point is 00:11:59 you bring up that the game awards are very long. They are very long. And they're always very long. There's never been a like short show. And there's never even been a show where we're like, oh, that was the right length. And it's weird because people still complain there's not enough awards. They complain this, that, whatever, too many rap. It's just a commercial. Yeah, whatever. I fucking love the game awards. Are they too long? They're extremely long. I don't want to say they're too long. But this year, they're only going. What? They got to be short this year, right? No, this year they're coming. They're straight up saying it's four hours. Oh, shit. I missed them.
Starting point is 00:12:28 They said it's from four to eight. So it's like, you know, said expectations. I appreciate that. You know what I mean? Jeff Keely, if anything, learned this summer that you just have to set expectations correctly.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Sure. Sometimes it's a little too much. Sometimes it's being a little too on the nose about exactly what we're getting at everything. But four hours of the game wars are about to happen next week. I'm sure there will be many announcements, some of consequence, some of no consequence.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I don't think Vin Diesel will make an appearance this year, which is kind of a bummer. Tom Holland will, though. Tom Holland will, though. And we assume he brings with him the Uncharted trailer, right? Do you think? Movie. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, not a game.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah, I'm probably the movie. When they first announced him, I, like, my brain skipped the movie and I was like, fuck it, man, bring a new game. I'm down for them to announce and charted five and a half or whatever. Ooh, I kind of like that. I haven't even thought about that. And you're right, great. That probably does make sense.
Starting point is 00:13:19 We'll talk about predictions of what we think we're getting from that stuff later in the show. I want to go through the nominees right now, and we're going to take our bets, our predictions on who's going to take it all. I sent you guys the list of nominations you can go to the Game Awards website to follow along at home if you would like. We're going to start at the bottom of this.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Start for the bottom. Now we're here. Greg, that's a reference you might get from your favorite artist Drake. That is a song that I've heard many times and now I know it's Drake. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Started from the bottom now we're here. Started from the bottom. Now the whole cruise here. You know what I mean? He knows more than I thought he was. All right. So you guys, do you have this page brought up? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Now, Greg, do you want to warn the crew about my ability to predict things as proven on PSWXOXO? I mean, no, because then I got to bring up me losing a lot again. But like, be careful. You guys, he lost a lot. Blessing was calling Metacritics on the dot to fuck me over from a month, two months ago on a thing we just did on PSLW. Nailed them on the dot what they would be. That is insane. And I do want to remind you guys that at the beginning of this year,
Starting point is 00:14:31 we did a episode of us predicting Metacritic scores for the entire year of games. And we're going to look back at that in 2021. Oh, damn. I forgot what I said. Who the hell knows what we said. Everything's delayed. That was seven years ago. Like, I don't remember anything about that now.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah. So I'm excited about that. But let's start off here with we're not going to do all of the awards. We're only going to do ones that, like, we have. anything that we can say about, right? So obviously down here, we're not going to talk about e-sports team. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:15:04 None of us are equipped for that. Esports host. None of us are equipped for that. Shout out. Shout out to Golden Boy, Alex Mendez. We hope that he gets it because we're big fans of him. But we love him. Moving on from there, best e-sports game,
Starting point is 00:15:17 I think that we should be able to make predictions of that. Do you guys agree? Sure. I think they're blind guesses, but sure. Yeah, but I think it's enough of like, like, it's as blind to guess. any of the other things they were going into, right? The nominees are.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Before we even begin, what I want to do is clear my own head, all right? And remind myself of some sage-like wisdom, Anakin, JMT, points out that I said last year. He put this on the subreddit, and I can't thank Anakin enough. Reminder for Greg, one year ago, after the Game Awards 2019, you sit either on a KFGD or Gamescast to have someone to remind you, come GamesCast. TGA 2020 predictions to go mainstream with your predictions. Don't overthink it. Just go with the mainstream option and you most likely come out on top.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Well, my phone has reminded me of this today. So here it is. Greg, go mainstream with your games cast predictions for Game Awards 2020. Don't overthink it. My mind is clear. Go, Tim. But that's not true. Like, if you look at last year, it wasn't mainstream winners.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Go Tim. Go for it. The nominees for Best E-Sports game. And I'm going to read the description too to get us kind of thinking about this. For the game that has delivered the best overall e-sports experience to players, inclusive of tournaments, community support,
Starting point is 00:16:37 and content updates, irrespective of genre or platform. Call of Duty, Modern Warfare. What's up, everyone? I was going to say last year's ones before you go to this year's. Go for it. Last year's nominees were League of Legends,
Starting point is 00:16:54 Fortnite, Overwatch, Dota, 2, and Counterstrike Global Offensive. Wow. So keep that in mind as you read this list. Which is, Call of Duty Modern Warfare,
Starting point is 00:17:05 Counterstrike Global Offensive, Fortnite, League of Legends, and Ballarat. So last year, League of Legends won. I don't think anyone thinks super hard about this,
Starting point is 00:17:18 except for, like, the Eastport sites. So, I think Greg's instinct to go mainstream or most either Fortnite or League of Legends those seem like the obvious answer
Starting point is 00:17:31 Why not Valerant? Again, I don't play these kind of games and don't follow e-sports to this degree, but I hear people talk about Valoran a lot. Valoran feels like the kind of game that should have gotten more conversation than it did. Like, I know people play Valorant and people
Starting point is 00:17:43 really like Valorant, but for a game, for that game, I would have expected it to take over the world in a way that it didn't necessarily do. But I know people love it. It's world. That's what thing. Do you think, you know, I think, you know, I think, uh, was this, was on our ballot?
Starting point is 00:18:00 No, it wasn't. Was it on our ballot? It doesn't matter. Well, like, we would have abstained from this category. How many people abstain from this category? And then you only have the people who know East sports voting on this category. Would they have gone, Valerant because it's made the best moves? I don't know because I think that to me from the outside and from slightly inside because
Starting point is 00:18:15 of Andy's world, like Valorant felt like the exclusive club that everyone wanted to get in for like two weeks. but then everyone, once everyone got in, they realized it was overcrowded and they didn't want to be there. I don't hear anything about... I might have stretched that analogy there, but like some of it, it's based in truth.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Like, I don't hear when a new character gets announced or like there's a new event or like a new e-sports thing. Like, I don't, granted, I don't keep up on that stuff in general, but I don't hear that about Valerat. And that should be the year they do that. Because that game just came out,
Starting point is 00:18:49 so it should be the brand new hotness. But I don't see everyone... The reason I would see Valerite winning this is if people went, oh, that's new. We should get this a shot. Well, that's my thing is I'm looking at this category, looking at these choices. I'm immediately inclined to go Valerant because Valerant is the new one. And I feel like when you look at Modern Warfare, Counter Strike, Fortnite, in League of Legends, it's like out of those four, which one of those had a truly standout year for esports.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And like, again, I was talking about e-sports specifically kind of throws a wrench into this before me because I'm like, okay, I can talk about some of these games in general. Like, Fortnite has new seasons that are off. awesome and all that stuff. Modern Warfare had war zone, which is awesome. But like in the e-sports world, how are folks looking at that? Which for me, like, is a more hardcore, like, way more in-tuned thing that I feel like I'm not, I'm not as tuned in on. I'm going league.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah, league won last year, so it can't be like, only the e-sports people caring. Like, if that were the case, it would have been probably counter-strike or Dota. I'm saying Ballarat. I'm saying Valer. but I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I don't know. I have no idea. I'm going to go league because league won last year.
Starting point is 00:19:57 The league's on this one this year. So I have not heard of league screwing up in a major way. So probably wins again this year. I'm going to go college duty modern warfare because of war zone. Interesting. Interesting. Then best e-sports event we're going to skip. Best e-sports coach.
Starting point is 00:20:16 We're going to skip. Best e-sports athlete. We're going to skip best debut game. for the best debut game created by a new independent studio. We have Carion, Mortal Shell, Raji, an ancient epic, Roki, and phasmophobia.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Hmm. I vote phasmophobia. Me too. I would personally, if I were picking this, I would pick phasmophobia. I think Carian is better known. You think so?
Starting point is 00:20:48 I think it had a better... No way. Yes. Carian? Among people who are... are voting on this sort of thing, yes. I think people will be like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:55 I've heard. I think I'm with you. I understand what you're saying, because Devolver was behind Carri-on, right, as publisher. I think more people have heard of Carri-on, but I think it underperformed expectations.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Like, I don't think it lived up to what those initial E3 demos were. So I mean people know the name, but they're like, oh, but it wasn't that great. Whereas Phasmophobia,
Starting point is 00:21:13 I think's the name, if you've heard it, you know, all people are streaming it. Oh, people are really loving it, blah, blah. I think it's, I think it's the,
Starting point is 00:21:19 It's, you know, the tale of two different things of low expectations, you know, high results, high expectations, low results kind of thing. I think for Kerry, it's a combination of being devolver-backed and also debuting on Game Pass. So is that sort of thing of, hey, this is a perfect game for me not having to care about it at all. Of, like, this is just a three-hour thing,
Starting point is 00:21:39 like, just play on Game Pass. I have no investment in it. And what I played looked and felt nice for like an hour. Sure. It's definitely between those two. yeah like the other one i've played i've played raji and i've played mortal shell those are both fine games i don't think they're in competition for this thing really there was no real conversation about them and no real mass critical critical consensus anyway i feel like raji has a chance because i know
Starting point is 00:22:03 there's like a big conversation around it culturally for the things that it was doing that was unique from a lot from a lot of other games uh but yeah i'm with you guys that i think it's between karenin and phasmophobia and overall i'm probably going to go phasmophobia for my prediction. Yeah, I'm going to be the outlier and they'll say carry on. All right, moving on. Early shout to everybody who's gone to the Travis Scott video so far and already left a comment on my comment. Content creator of the year for a streamer or content creator who has made an important and positive impact on the community in 2020. Alana Pierce.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Jay Ann Lopez. Nick Burks, Tim the Tapman, or Valcray. This is what they're replaced Trending Gamer with, right? Correct. Yeah. Okay. Last year was the first year of this. Yeah. So this is for a streamer, I said that, but streamer, content creator who has made an important and positive impact on the committee in 2020. I think it's going to be an interesting one. I think it's going to be an interesting runoff because we are so, I mean, obviously, I want to vote for Alana. I want to say Alana's going to win. And we know Alana so well having her come from our sphere working for us for Xcast and then the fact that she does such
Starting point is 00:23:16 amazing charity work in streams for charity what multiple times it seems like every week she's always doing something you know paying it forward but then you if so that's my argument but i'm wondering how insular that is of how limited that is like you know tim the tatman broke through i thought in an interesting way where and i know this sounds goofy but i know who tim the tatman is i follow tim the tatman right where it's like that's i with all due respect to everybody else i don't know the other people where It's like he was able to cross over that way. So does he already have the live streaming fall guy's audience and the coming over?
Starting point is 00:23:46 And then is it just this argument of, is that what this award is though, right? Because they go very important and positive impact on the community. Tim, that meant's hilarious and funny. And his fall guy stuff was funny. But does it fall under that definition? Are people even looking at that definition when they think content creator of the year?
Starting point is 00:24:00 I mean, Tim, Tim's also done a lot of the charity stuff. And so was Nick. So it's like a lot of that is there too for the positive impact side of it. I do think when it comes like just kind of breaking things. down process of elimination. I think that Tim is over Nick.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And that might even just be because of the, um, fact that Tim's are better than Nick, but also the fact that, uh, Tim had that fall guys moment where all eyes were on him, right? And that went hell of mainstream when people were talking about that.
Starting point is 00:24:29 We talked about that, we talked about Nick Merck's on a show. Yeah, I don't know who he was Alcray, 100 thieves. She's doing great stuff. I don't think she really has a chance. Like I think that that's really. Yeah. I think that she to me is like the easy like she's 80% there but we have people that are over 80.
Starting point is 00:24:47 So I think it's between and Jan Lopez unfortunately I'm unfamiliar with. Like Valcara out of all out of all these, aside from Alana because I know Alana obviously because like IGN and her being everywhere. But if I was if I was outside of this specific world out of this specific loop, I feel like Valcaray would be the one where I'm like, okay, I know that name. like even over Nick Merckson, Tim the Tapman, I see Valcray everywhere. Like even when I'm scrolling on TikTok, I see Valcray stuff pop up. See, but I would argue that like,
Starting point is 00:25:16 even like courage is a more popular 100 Thieves person than Valcray. But I see where you're coming from. There's like different audiences there. I think it's between Alana and Tim the Tapman. I think that because of where the world's at right now and because of a lot of the people voting on this, I'm pretty split.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I think Alana is definitely the most ubiquitous of all of them. But also, like, I'm not sure how much ubiquity helps you here. Like this is a specific category and it really depends on what people are voting on. Like, have I, have I heard of this person or are we thinking about their positive impact? Or are we looking for the newer faces like to kind of push up those like, you know, up-and-comers versus, you know, people who are well-established. And also, we asked Alana, we put it out on the ether, has got a war five, a PS5 title. And she didn't answer. So, you know, maybe she's not going to because of that.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. That's a good point. not giving us the straight answers i think i'm going to him to that man and i i want a loter to win but i'm going to him to tap man he has two point something million followers on twitter yeah that's a lot remember when i beat putty pot though yeah i do i'll never change things change i'm voting alana i think i'll vote for alanna i think i think ubiquity does help her here i'm a split honestly because i think i'm looking i'm looking at the definition again right for the for the category right for a streamer content creator who has made an important and positive impact on the community in 2020.
Starting point is 00:26:48 I know Jayne Lopez, she runs Black Girl gamers, which like I've seen around for like years. I know for a fact that her career is basically dedicated toward making that positive change and pushing and highlighting Black voices and gaming, which I feel like abides by the riding for this category. But I think the popularity of Valkyray might push her over. And so I'm going to go Valkyray for my prediction. Here's the thing. I'm really glad I'm not the one actually choosing this, and I'm just going to predicting who's going to win.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Because I feel like I would feel real bad, because I do not know enough about all this, and all those people seem like they're real great. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Moving on to best multiplayer. For outstanding online, multiplayer gameplay and design, including co-off and massively multiplayer experiences,
Starting point is 00:27:38 irrespective of game genre or platform. Animal Crossing. New Horizons, among us. Call of Duty Warzone, Fall Guys' ultimate knockout, Valerate. How did Animal Crossing get there?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Oh, it has multiplayer. I know it has multiplayer, but like barely. Don't you love waiting for me to come to your island? Like stopping everything you're doing for me to come to your island,
Starting point is 00:28:00 not being able to do certain things in your island because I'm coming over. A joke of a nomination. It's no problem because it's a seaplane. That's my own answer to that. Like, I'm going to war zone. I'm going among us.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I'm going to go Fall Guys I'm all going to go Ward then I think Fall guys it would have good spread but so many different places and I think you know the PlayStation Plus
Starting point is 00:28:27 helped to get in so many different hands and again that's one of the ones that again I don't know how much is actually going off of Greg from 2019 telling me to worry about like it's probably no that would be right Greg from 2019 telling me to go mainstream
Starting point is 00:28:38 like I feel Fall Guys broke through obviously Call of Duty is more mainstream than anything but like I don't argue among us is more mainstream than either of them Yeah like among us in war zone where it comes down to me because Amongus
Starting point is 00:28:49 has an insane amount of downloads like the amount of people that are playing Amongus and like the penetration In fact, I might change my answer to Amongus Like you don't see AOC Yeah, that's true, that's true And Foggis had its moment Whereas Amongus seems to continue to go
Starting point is 00:29:04 So you know what you saw I'm going Among Us. Okay I think there's an argument for Animal Crossing in that like hey there was a talk show on it And stuff like that Like in terms of good multiplayer It's not But
Starting point is 00:29:15 God So everyone's saying among us, except me who says Warzone. I think so, yeah. Yeah. Cool. Moving on to best sports slash racing. For the best traditional and non-traditional sports and racing game.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Dirt 5. F1 2020, FIFA 21, NBA 2K21, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 plus 2. Guys, I want it to be Tony Hawk. More than fucking anything. This game was so.
Starting point is 00:29:47 and it could have been so bad. You don't think it is going to be? I think it is going to be Tony Hawk. I still think I still think that it has that uniqueness of this that people might vote for. But like, it's definitely not the most popular. It didn't sell that well, which is really upsetting to me. Tim, I want to point out that last year you went on a, you went on a limb and you said crash team racing and everyone disagreed with you. You're right.
Starting point is 00:30:12 You were right. I'm going Tony Hawk. You fucking, you're right. You're right. Yeah. I think about this category, I feel like for the people that are voting, they look at. at this category and they're like, all right, I've not played FIFA and NBA, but I have played Tony Hawk because that's the unique sports game here. I feel, I think differentiation is the thing
Starting point is 00:30:30 that's going to win you this category because of the folks voting. So I'm going for that. I'm going Tony Hawk too. I'm upset that UFC isn't here. Who did you say, Greg? Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk across the board. Yeah. Hell yeah, man. I'm so bummed because I was trying to look up sales numbers that didn't seem good. So I'm like, are they going to do three? Is there going to be DLC of consequence? I hope.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I hope. But I don't think so. Best sim slash strategy. Best game focused on real time or turn-based simulation or strategy gameplay, irrespective of platform. Crusader Kings 3, Desperados 3, gears tactics, Microsoft flight simulator, X-com, chimera squad. What a weird genre, our weird category this is?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Because like, you have all these, Turn-based strategy games and you have Microsoft Fight Simulator, which is not that. And like, it's weird. I understand why they put these together because it's like, oh, we just got to put these. We got to put these games somewhere. But like, I personally would. Yeah, I would say Fight Simulator, even though it's nothing like the other stuff. Like, I can't say Microsoft Flight Simulator is better than these other games because they're not comparable.
Starting point is 00:31:39 But I think that's what's going to win. Yeah. I'm with you. I think what happens is because Crusader Kings 3 has a has 10 out of tens. Like, I know that game was reviewed phenomenally, but I think that ends up probably splitting the vote with the other actual strategy games and the Microsoft Flight Simulator being the unique sim here
Starting point is 00:31:56 that also got 10 out of 10s takes it. Yeah. Across the board, we all agree. Yeah. Moving on. Best family game for the best game appropriate for family play, irrespective of genre platform. Animal Crossing New Horizons.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Crash Bandicoot 4 is about time. Ball Guys Ultimate Knockout, Mario Kart Live, Home Circuit, It's Minecraft Dungeons or Paper Mario, the origami king. It's an animal crossing. No stopping. No stopping for Animal Crossing. Yeah. Not even a chance.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Bless. Oh, he's going to get spicy. Parmy wants to get spicy and go for all guys. But... Not a chance. Hmm. I mean, this is just the Nintendo category, right? Like, this is the category Nintendo pretty much always wins.
Starting point is 00:32:44 because last year is Luigi's Mansion actually last year was all Nintendo nominees Best Family I feel is just a weird name for a category Because I read that and I'm like Okay the best game to play with your family And then looking at the actual description It is best game that is appropriate for family play It is best game where you're not shooting a gun
Starting point is 00:33:03 Exactly And so I guess Animal Crossing New Horizons Boom Now we got Best Fighting game This is a weird one I hate this category so much. This is like, okay, most people do do not say things.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Like, this is actually offensive. For the best game designed primarily around head-to-head combat, Grand Blue Fantasy versus Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate. Street Fighter 5, Champion Edition. One Punch Man, a hero nobody knows. I'm waiting for this one. Here Tim pronounce this. Oh, Lord, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Underlight. I'm sorry, under night in-birth, EXE. late CLR you're there you're there you got it you got it great great
Starting point is 00:33:54 uh among people who know I think it's gonna be under night I don't know how do those people who are actually voting though yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:34:04 I put mobile fantasy versus was good it was good it was good it would just among fighting game enthusiasts I think it'll be like so there's I think
Starting point is 00:34:13 two audiences voting on this there's people who were fighting game enthusiasts and everyone else I think everyone else is going to vote moral combat. But I think the fighting game enthusiast and if they're the ones who are just like, hey,
Starting point is 00:34:24 the people like Al was saying, hey, you vote on, you choose to vote for this one because you're the one who knows. I think it'll be Undernight. See, I think Undernight in birth clear, as far as I understand, compared to the previous entries is not,
Starting point is 00:34:37 it's not necessarily like a sequel sequel. It's more like an expansion. And so like I feel like comparing it to Mortal Kombat 11 Aftermath, which came out this year. Like I look at Aftermath, And I'm like, okay, cool. This is a great substantial, like, story added to this already amazing package. And this year, you also get a next-gen version of Mortal Kombat.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And so, like, I don't know. If I was a fighting game person, I wouldn't, I'd feel kind of split. I'd probably ultimately go Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate, no pun intended. But I think, yeah, it's between that and Undernight and probably some people go in Grand Blue. And then Street Fighter fans going Street Fighter. And then nobody going one punch man because that game was terrible. Yeah, that one's weird there. Last year's Smashwriters
Starting point is 00:35:18 Now I get to say it's nominated Now I can just slap it on the box Game Wars is nominated So upsetting Yeah Mortal Kombat was on last year's list But ultimately lost to Smashwether So I could see for that reason It winning this one
Starting point is 00:35:28 But I'll still stick with it tonight Ooh Wes, what are you going? I'm going Mortal Kombat There It's upsetting that I think Hold on I got to look this up I actually say
Starting point is 00:35:40 Because I think Them's fighting herds Might have came out this year It was supposed to be at Evo But Evo got canceled So Or maybe you got maybe Yeah it was supposed to be at Evo
Starting point is 00:35:50 which is why I bring it up because that's the game that kind of came out of nowhere. I guess it's been out for a little bit, but has been basically building and becoming more popular. But that's the game what would have expected to see here, at least over One Punch Man, which I feel like is also barely a fighting game. Before we move on, let me tell you about our sponsors.
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Starting point is 00:39:44 Thank you so much for your support. Next up, best role playing for the best game designed with rich player character customization and progression, including massively multiplayer experiences. Final Fantasy 7 remake, Genshin Impact, Persona 5 Royal, Wasteland 3, Yakuza like a dragon. So let's just go ahead and, yeah, let's toss Wasteland out that it's fine, it's fine, it's not going to win. I think, I doubt Genshin Impact will win. so I think ultimately this thing is between FF7% of 5 and Yakuza and I'm
Starting point is 00:40:21 gonna predict FF7 right away Yeah 100% Because I think I mentioned this I think to you and Ron on a post show that like I think the people that played FF7 are also the people that played Yaku's like a dragon and I think those people have a preference
Starting point is 00:40:36 I think those people are probably already Final Fantasy fans and probably had way more of a connection with Final Fantasy 7 remake than Yaku's Like a Dragon and so I don't even think there's a competition here. I think Persona 5 Royal is kind of an interesting modifier to the situation because I know so many people love Persona 5 Royal,
Starting point is 00:40:55 but it being more so in expansion than a new original title, I think probably hampers it a little bit. I mean, your roommate has a Persept of 5 tattoo. That's true. And I might, I would think about getting one. I would consider it. I don't think F-O-7 remake is so divisive that it could be in-game of the year
Starting point is 00:41:12 and people not want it for RPG of the year. You know what I'm saying? Like, if it got enough votes to be that nomination, I think it wins this one handily. But I do think if there is a possibility of insurgency, it would be persona 5. As much as I like Yakuza 7, much as I think it's one of the best games of the year,
Starting point is 00:41:27 I think persona 5 will probably be the one to usurp FSA 7 from this category. But I will, I'll place my best on episode for this one. Yeah. Action Adventure. For the best action-slash-adventure game combining combat with reversal and puzzle-solving. Assassin's Creed Ball.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Ghost of Tsushima. Marvel's Spider-Man Miles Morales. Ori and the Will of the Wisp's Star Wars Jedi Fall in Order. Last of Us Part 2. You can't lose.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I know. What a list of games right there. I didn't pee. I'll be very back and think about this. Well, if he's going away, I want to fill my coffee.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Blessing, tell people about your shirt. So this is a Super Mario 35 anniversary shirt. I got it in the mail. because I'm not even entirely sure. From cake worthy. From cake worthy? Is it a cake?
Starting point is 00:42:18 Okay. Because Greg was the one that got me. Because Greg just messaged me. It's cool. You look rad. Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I don't wear flannels as much as I should. And I figure now that I'm going to try and grow a beard. I should wear more flannel because I know that's part of the beard culture. Are you as a shirt? He has to know. Are people telling you how good you're looking? Like, it's starting to build up in a good way. You're going to look great.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I hope so, man. Because I'm so self-conscious. The fact that I'm not going anywhere is the thing that's got me going. Because I don't know, like, I'm not, who am I looking good for? What you need to do, Blessing is put one picture of you with other beard on Tinder, then the other picture of you with the beard on different accounts and see which one gets the most like, you know, like responses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah. I kind of like this idea. That's actually a really good move. It's actually a really, really good move. Yeah. But I really like the flannel. So shout out to Greg Miller for making this happen, getting this for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:07 My girlfriend, Greb also got a dress and is like really, really cute as hell dress of like Mario, Mario 3 art, I think. Yeah, Greg sent me the picture or like the the images of the different selections and I saw that there was a Mario 3 dress and I was like well Mario 3 is my favorite 2D Mario and so like what if I just got the dress instead of the flannel. Hey man, live your life. How awesome would it have been if you ordered it? But like just for hoping whoever you date next. Like you just got it and like put it away. You like wait and like you know what I mean? And then you give the gift and they're like, oh my God, this is so great.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And they look it up, like, this came out three years ago. Yeah, that's weird. Like the creepy stalker music plays in the background, like, da, da, da, da, da, da. Where are we at with this? Oh, we haven't started. We haven't even talked about it yet at all. Got it. We don't want to do the show without you.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I'm leaning towards ghost. And like, I might be screwing myself out of this because we always play this game. And I feel like we're getting to that point in the predictions here. Yeah, you're overthinking it. You're over thinking it. Well, if it's going to win game of the year, it doesn't, that people are voting differently for all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:17 So maybe I go last of us too here. Because I think Jedi Fallen Order is too old. Yes. Not enough people would vote for it. With all their respect to, it's somebody who said the Jedi Fallen Order was his game of the year last year. It doesn't,
Starting point is 00:44:31 it's not one of the best games this year. Yeah. This year was a way better year for games this year. I think between Assassins, Creed and Ghost, both people would say ghost. Yeah. I think Miles is too recent.
Starting point is 00:44:41 and it's too Spider-Man. It's too much of the old game, which is so a great game, but I don't think it differentiates itself enough to win this category. So for me, process of elimination, I get between Ghost and Last of Us 2. I think if Ghost is going to win anything,
Starting point is 00:45:00 it would be this. I'm going Last of Us 2. I'm going Ghost. I'm so split because I want to go one of those and I don't know which. Because I think, can I say, though, It's a shame that none of us have said ori.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Like, none of us think Ori is the win, but I think Ori is like very deserving of a winning spot. Ori is fantastic. It is such a good game. But as all of us have said a million times now, when we played it, it wasn't at that point. And like now it's fixed. Now it's better. But like I think that when people are voting, not everyone have that experience of playing the better version. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Like when I think of Ori, I still do think of like every time I'd try to open up a menu and it would stutter and all that stuff. And like, it's a shame that that's still my memory of it because I know it's a great game. But yeah, like, looking at this category, like, Greg mentioned it, right? Like, there's no, there's no bad choices here.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Like, any of these games could win, and it's like, cool. Yeah, that's awesome. I don't know. I want it to be Ghost of Sushima, because I want Ghost to Shima to win something. But I, I'm going to go Ghost to Sushima. Greg Miller. For me, it's between Ghost and Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Really? Yeah, I feel like it's similar to what we're talking about of like all these games. How do you give them a nod? For a while, I thought assassins and ghosts. Then I whittled it down to there. But I think ghosts had such lasting problem to say ghost. I think it had such, I mean, it's like we've all said a million times. Can't lose.
Starting point is 00:46:37 But like, Ghost obviously had such a fucking great single player campaign. Legends was so good. It's had long enough to gestate and for people to really understand how great it is. I think Assassin's Creed, as much as I enjoy it, when I play it, I'm like, oh, man, ghost really ate their lunch. Like, ghost did this stuff so much better. Best action game.
Starting point is 00:46:57 For the best game of the action genre focused primarily on combat. Doom Eternal, Hades, Half Life Alex, Neo2, Streets of Rage, Four. I think it'll be Hades. Me too.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, I think this is where Hades is going to win. I'm a little baffled by how Dimiturnal made it to so many categories in the first place, but like, I think this is an excellent game. It is an excellent game. I don't think it's one of the best games of the year.
Starting point is 00:47:22 But I think in this one, Hades does eat it lunch. I think Hades is a pure action game that is just incredibly well loved, but it plays so incredibly well, too. And that's going to be what... People are going to have that game on the brain when they're voting for this.
Starting point is 00:47:37 They're like, okay, yeah, these games are fine, but like Neo didn't really resonate. A lot of streets of Rage 4 was very divisive. I really love that game, but I love Hades more, and I expect that that's going to hit with most people. too. Innovation and accessibility.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Recognizing software and slash or hardware that is pushing the medium forward by adding features, technology, and content to help games be played and enjoyed by an even wider audience. Also, shout out for having this as a category. That is super freaking awesome. The nominees are Assassin's Creed Valhalla, grounded,
Starting point is 00:48:09 HyperDot, Last of Us Part 2, and Watch Dogs Legion. This isn't even a question. Last of us without you. Yeah. The same is not. Hyperdot was, I'm joking. No, actually, HyperDot actually a very competitive thing here. Because it's like built for the accessibility control. I worked PR for that game.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Like throw that out there right now. But the accessibility option in that game were out of crazy. They were not as good and less of us. Because you didn't do your job well, Imran. Boo, Imran. I worked in an already outreach. So it didn't have both of you. Damn.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Roger asked me for a clipout. That might be it. But, Um, everyone says T-Loo, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grounded has a really, like the, the reactive of other things. That's funny, but that's not going to be like the accessibility options last of us two had. Yeah, I mean, that took it to another level right this year, what last of us part two did.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Yeah, the thing there is like, it took it to another level on a mainstream level where it's like, that is like, there was arguably no game bigger than Last of Us 2 this year and so far. And for it to put that stuff so center. stage I think is so key. I do think that it set the standard for Sony first party titles that so far we've seen that they've been trying to live up to. Right. There have been other titles that I've seen come out after Last is part two that now open up with the accessibility screen.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And like that is an impressive thing. I, I, uh, when we're doing like the nominations and stuff, right, like I was kind of going for Tell Me Why, because I know tell me why I did a good job of before that game came out, they put out like a Q&A talking about everything they did to handle their portrayal of trans folks in that game. And like in places where I know people had big complaints about how Lasz was handled some of that stuff, tell me why kind of had answers for all those things. Like in terms of, hey, we're going to spoil the game for you. So you know, like if you're somebody that might receive this stuff a certain way or this stuff might be triggering for you or this content might be X, Y, and Z, right?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Like, we're going to spoil the game. We're going to put all the information out there for you so you know if somebody is dead named. So you know if somebody is suffering something traumatic or is killed or whatever it may be. And so, like, I kind of wish telling you why I was here for that stuff. But, you know, I also get that these games also, the games that are list are also great games as far as accessibility and stuff. And so.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Best VR slash AR for the best game experience playable in virtual or augmented reality, irrespective of platform. dreams Half-Life Alex Marbles Iron Man VR Star Wars squadrons The Walking Dead Saints and Sinners Half-Life
Starting point is 00:50:54 I mean without a doubt it's Half-Life right You saw everybody up in arms That Half-Life wasn't on the game of the year list I think it's a shoe-in-to-win best VR And understandably so Like if somebody who played it on the index Like incredible Yeah half-live-al
Starting point is 00:51:09 The people who vote this one are gonna Like all the things that did best in VR that has no competition here. Exactly. And I personally think there, you know, as somebody who really enjoyed Alex and you can watch me and Danny's review
Starting point is 00:51:21 as a games cast, right? Like, I think I was joke with Mitch online or whatever about it where he's like, oh man, game of the year, voters, I see you didn't play Half Life Alex. And I was like, actually I did. And I just don't think it's game of the year. But it's what Imron's talking about, right?
Starting point is 00:51:35 Where what it nails, I mean, for a VR game, it's head and shoulders above all these VR games. Best community support. Recognizing a game for outstanding community support transparency and responsiveness inclusive of social media activity and game updates slash patches. Apex Legends, Destiny 2, Fall Guys Ultimate Knockout, Fortnite, No Man Sky, Valerent. It's a tough one because my gut says Fall Guys. And I think a lot of that has to do with Fall Guys was a moment.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And so much of that moment came with the social media side of it. And the transparency that they had about updates and why things were happening this way or that way where it kind of felt like part of the experience was the social media side. In terms of updates and patches and all that stuff, it's like, I mean, Fortnite's such a great thing, but that's more ongoing game than it is about community. Agreed. 100%. 100%. To be clear, Fortnite, so last year's nominees were Destiny 2, Apex Legends, FF14, Fortnite, and Rainbow 6th Siege. Destiny 2 was the winner there. So I'm, I'm unsure what is different this year that would change.
Starting point is 00:52:46 that? For like what like destiny did wrong? Yeah like what what could they have screwed up this year that would have made it like destiny not the best community game. Well what was last year or forsaken? No last year. Oh yeah. I think so. Yeah. I forget which one was last year. Because I know I think forsaken was really well received and I don't know like beyond light is happening now. Is that the right one? Yeah. And like I don't I don't know what they've been doing like throughout the year and and how they've been sporting that stuff. But maybe if this year isn't as well received as forsaken was last. And I don't know. I don't know what they've been doing like throughout the year and and then. Maybe if this year's isn't as well received as forsaken was last. And. And, year that probably has an impact but I'm out of loop with that stuff what and I think yeah for me that's the thing is I remember there being more not more but a big delay this year for destiny right they were obviously upfront about
Starting point is 00:53:30 that they had longer blog posts about just what was going on in the community Dege leaving like I did they I mean like there's the community I feel what's interesting about this is that there's different parts right where it's like recognizing game for outstanding community store transparency and responsibilities inclusive social
Starting point is 00:53:46 media and game updates right that's where it gets weird where I think all of them are doing stuff from that really well, but I don't know if there's one that's doing all of it fantastically. Right? So here's my thing. And yeah, I agree with you entirely. I don't think anyone, one of these is doing across the board better than the rest.
Starting point is 00:54:02 For second with 2018, by the way. I think shadow people last year. What Imran's saying about, you know, Destiny 2 didn't do anything wrong this year. But I do think that Fall Guys did something right. That above and beyond what Destiny 2 did. Because I think earlier we were talking about the Tim the Tapman and all that
Starting point is 00:54:18 stuff. That was because, I mean, Tim's talented and does a lot of stuff, but like it was a back and forth with Fall Guys social media. You know, right. Like that was ratcheted up where the, the eyes were on the, the account, you know, like, and I think that that when you're talking about community support, like that is supporting the community. Like that is sure, but in like in whose perspective? Like, are the people who are voting on this going to be the ones who go like, well, the Fall guy's social media accountant is supporting streamers. So that's why the one it gets in there. I don't know. I don't know how heavily they wait, like, community voting on this one versus the other ones. But, like, this one probably should be mostly community voting. And in that
Starting point is 00:54:58 case, I think it comes down to either Destiny or Fall Guys. Yeah. I'm going to stick with Destiny. I think that's the one. I don't think it did anything different this year. They just like, this is the year that they, they're more open and honest to be like, hey, we're not with Activision. We're doing stuff. We're doing our own stuff this year. This is what it's like, this is what the future of destiny looks like. I think that works up better than Fall Guys like really great admittedly social media account. I'm gonna go Fall Guys.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Bless. I think Fall Guys had the best social media like 100% out of these. But we're talking about game updates and patches. Like No Man Sky is the one that jumps out. And I know like No Man Sky has been doing a great job for years with that stuff. But I think especially this year and with the next gen version,
Starting point is 00:55:45 I think that sticks out a bit. See, I would have thought it would have been last year. with beyond. Or next. No Man Sky Next. That was the one that brought VR and did a whole bunch of stuff. Like I thought that would have been the year. Like, and now I feel like no main sky's already so established and everybody knows it's
Starting point is 00:56:01 a comeback story and that they listen and build all the shit. Yeah, they've done more, but you get that one breakthrough of like, look at this giant update we did and how crazy it is. Yeah, the next gen version's out and all the other things. But it's like, you expect it to be great. Yeah. They go above that. And I look at Apex Legends.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I think Apex Legends has kind of a split in terms of how people have received. the community support because I know there's a lot of complaints about them not churning out enough content. Yeah, it's like real up and down in terms of how people receive that stuff. Like people hated the last battle pass because I think like it took, yeah, like five games to go up one level or something of that. Yeah, like I just thought people were hit, because we were talking about Apex on KHG recently, people were hit me up and being like, hey, just so you know the battle pass, in some ways it's kind of fucked. And so I think that probably receives or that that probably affects a little bit how people will view it in terms of best community support. Valerant, I have no idea what's going on there. Which probably doesn't speak great for community support.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah. Like if nobody's heard of what they do with the community. Like as far, everything I hear about Valerite and the community is usually bad, which like maybe that's just what makes a news, but I don't see that suddenly like, you know, winning this award because of that. Yeah, I guess I'm going to go fall, guys. Best mobile game for the best game playable on a mobile device.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Among us, call Judy Mobile. Genshin Impact, legends of Runeitarian. and Pokemon Cafe Mix. I think this one's either going to be Genshin Impact or Among Us. I think it's Among Us. I think this is the easy one for Among Us because it's one of those that even as we've debated, you know, it's other appearance here, right? Like this is the one where I think it stacks up and you're like,
Starting point is 00:57:40 all right, here's where we can honor it. It is this thing that everybody's played, all these crazy downloads, the way it works and interfaces with, you know, the phone to PC and everything else. I think this is where Among Us takes it easy. I'm going with Among Us, but I do want to bring up the memory serves correctly. Call of Duty mobile did win last year. And I feel like that's one that we would just write off as like, there's no way
Starting point is 00:57:59 it's actually going to do. A lot of people play it. I do know people who play there. I'm split between Call of Duty mobile and among us. In the same way that for best multiplayer, I think I was split between Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, Warzone, whatever, and among us, just because like those are two huge player bases and like
Starting point is 00:58:15 this year those are two of the biggest games. I'm so I think Genschen Impact, but I'm going to go with I'm sorry, I think Among Us, I'm going to go with Gingin Impact. Because I feel like when people are looking for things to vote for, they're thinking what is a big mobile game? Like, not necessarily big in terms of audience, but big in terms of like a game that doesn't
Starting point is 00:58:38 seem like it should be long on mobile. And I think they're going to go into it. Substantial. Okay, so bless. Did people like Pokemon Cafe Mix? No. That's what I thought, right? I think that one's like, we got to put something.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Like we gotta have the Get around this out What other mobile games were there I'm gonna go among us Though I feel like I'm fucked up And probably should have gone college duty In fact you know what? Take it back
Starting point is 00:59:03 Too late you said I want to be spicy I want to be spicy I want to get more points than y'all I'm going to be I think that's a good call of us Like honestly I mean honestly
Starting point is 00:59:13 Last year of College Duty winning over Grindstone Sainar Wildheart's What the Golf Sky Like that was surprising It could happen again really easily Like that's our Wildhearters is great and like sky is cool and like the other games you mentioned cool but I don't know if I'd put them up against college duty mobile what would you put them up against among us see that's like that's that
Starting point is 00:59:34 that's the thing you see is been playing call a duty mobile yeah but I'm sure some other politician is playing called duty mobile we just don't know about I'm sure I'm sure Joe Biden is like he's clicking heads left and right out there yeah he's ranked 20 or whatever which isn't that high but he's ranked best indie game for outstanding creative and technical achievement in a game made outside the traditional publisher system. Carry on. Fall Guys ultimate knockout.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Hades. Spolunky 2. Spirit Fair. Hades. Hades. With a chance of Splunky 2, maybe. Sponky 2, I feel like that game got screwed worse than the game I've ever seen, like, at least this year. Because, like, that game is amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:20 It is fantastic. It came out a week before Hades. And just the competition just dropped. Just immediately, just entirely. That's a very good point. That's a very good point. Yeah, like, Fall Guys is the weird one for me where I think that a lot of people are going to want to offer.
Starting point is 01:00:36 But Hades just does have so much backing and support behind it. I'm going, like, yeah, Haiti's across the board. I feel like you guys are overestimating fog. Like, maybe it's just my perspective, but like nobody talked about that game of the first month. It just, it died. When you look at stream, streamers it did not die every day there are thousands of people watching and it's like that's a that's a big part of all this but like the voting process does get weird because it's like how many streamers are
Starting point is 01:01:07 like people paying attention to streams are voting for this i don't know best ongoing game awarded to a game for outstanding development of ongoing content that evolves the player experience over time apex legends destiny two college duty war zone fortnight no sky. Imron, can you remind me who won last year? Okay, let me look it up. My browser is being slow because Discord's open. But go ahead, Doc. I'm voting Fortnite. My heart says Fortnite.
Starting point is 01:01:38 What a huge, I mean, especially ending with this Marvel thing. And granted, yeah, it's just Fortnite being Fortnite doing Fortnite things, but Fortnite still those amazing fucking things time and time again. Last year's winner was Fortnite. Ooh. Yeah, my heart says Fortnite. My brain kind of says war zone. Me too. Because it's new and fresh and very popular. What is your left foot say?
Starting point is 01:01:58 I'm going to war zone. The left foot says destiny. I'm going to go Warzone. Just because I think, and I know the folks who are voting aren't looking at last year and being like, oh, well, Fortnite one then, so let's give it to something else now. But I think Warzone just sticks out as something that is fresh, new, ongoing, and it has proven that they can sustain and they have an audience. I think while voting was happening, Fortnite was probably doing the most interesting stuff
Starting point is 01:02:23 as it's been doing all year. So I think that probably adds a little bit to it because that's the time of the Marvel stuff. And I think that's what the time Fortnight is making the most news. So we have Greg and Imran at Fortnite and we have me and blast at Warzone. Right? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Cool. Games for impact for a thought-provoking game with a pro-social meaning or message. If found, Kentucky Route Zero TV edition. Spirit Fairer. tell me why through the darkest of times i say spirit fair this is a tough one though is a tough yeah a tough one i think it's split between tell me why and spirit fair i'm going to tell me why i've not played enough of these i've played spirit fairer
Starting point is 01:03:12 uh i feel like i think it was best it if it didn't have the combination in best indy it would probably do fairly well in that one that so i think i'm i'll put it on this one for now i think guest spirit fair i think spirit fair is the one that's the most popular of these if found i've heard good things about i started it i didn't really vibe with it kentucky root zero took forever to come out and then and when it finally didn't got came out as this final thing another one that i started and i know a lot i had had peers who really liked it i didn't vibe with it spirit fair when it came out it seemed like a lot of people were playing spirit fair and a lot of people were talking about spirit fair tell me why i dropped i started it i think i'm midway through
Starting point is 01:03:54 episode two. I might have, you know what? I might have only finished episode one, itself two left to go. I enjoyed it,
Starting point is 01:04:00 but I wasn't compelled to come back and do the rest of it. And through the darkest times I'm not familiar with. I think... I'm changing to spirit fair because I feel like
Starting point is 01:04:08 I've heard the most about tell me why, because of blessing. So, Greg, through the darkest times, remember that when we were at the Judges Week? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:04:17 This is that not, the Nazi Germany game. Oh, okay. Okay. I think tell me why it suffers a little bit from don't nod fatigue.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Just like there's so... Yeah. It's not like there's so many all the time, but there are a lot of them. This game, I'm sure it is great. It just doesn't feel that different from like Life is Strange or Life is Strange too. Did Life is Strange 2 win games for Impact when it came out?
Starting point is 01:04:40 It was Greece. Grie. Really? Yeah. Really? Huh. I mean, I like Greerie, but damn. Greer should have won best art,
Starting point is 01:04:50 and I don't know why it won Games for Impact instead. But sure. Yeah. Fascinating. I, hmm, there's another one where my heart says one thing, my brain says another thing, because like, tell me why, I think for games for impact visibly, like I could, I could tell you why, tell me why he's here. Spirit Fair is a more popular game and like probably in some instance, it's probably a better game, but I don't know, for somebody who didn't get far in
Starting point is 01:05:14 Spirit Fair, I don't know what it did for, on the impact side of things. I'm sure it did, but I have no idea. I couldn't tell you off the bat what the thing Spirit Fair was that puts it in this category. It's not really pro-social. I don't, like, honestly, that is a, but it is, it's on a strict list for the same reason Grie was that it's a game about something. Is the pro-social message, though, like grief? Like, isn't that what a spirit fair is all about, right? Dealing with death.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Like, I understand it's not as on the nose as some of the other games we're here talking. I should say on the nose, but like, you know, very much like, this is what we're here to talk about. I told me why I watched the trailer and I'm like, okay, cool, yeah, I know how this is going to, like, impact us socially, right? I know what the message is here. I'm down to play this for this. Where Spirit Fair, like off the bat, like looking at the art style,
Starting point is 01:05:59 I'm like, okay, cool, this looks like a fun game where you're traveling and collecting and doing all this stuff. Then you play and it was like, no, it was very sad. I'm thinking about ugly crying. So when I played spherefare, the first thing I did was hug a person and that was very comforting for me. And so I'm going to go Spear Fair. I'm going to say Spirit Fair when this one.
Starting point is 01:06:18 So are we across the board, Spear Fair? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Best performance. awarded to an individual for voiceover acting motion and slash or performance capture Ashley Johnson as Ellie Laura Bailey as Abby Desuki to Jesus as Jin Sakeh Logan Cunningham as Hades and Najee Jeter as Miles Morales There's a lot of high cards in this hand. Yeah, this is another one you can't lose. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:48 great performances all around but I think I think Laura's gonna win. Yeah, I don't it will be Laura Bailey Like, I personally think it's a little disappointing because I feel like there's a lot of really good choices here. Not nothing against Laura Bailey. I just see her a lot of things. I would like it if somebody who is not one or not been nominated for this before wins. See, I feel I'm kind of in a similar place when I look at this category because part of me is very bummed that Troy Baker isn't here as Joel. Because I think Joel's performance in the last part two is fucking immaculate. Um, but I also get like, we all like, Troy Baker is, I'm.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I'm not positive. I'm sure he's probably won before he's or at least has been nominated. And we see him all the time, right? Like we love and appreciate Troy Baker and like, you know, it's great to see other folks here. I'm going to go Ashley Johnson as Ellie.
Starting point is 01:07:41 From my prediction. I think it's going to be one of the last of this two characters. Like, for sure. I don't think it's going to be, I think it's funny. They put Logan cutting him as Hades because he plays like 50 characters in that game.
Starting point is 01:07:52 But I definitely think it's, it will be either Ellie or Abby, for sure. Yeah, I'm going to Abby. Do you think they've possibly split the vote? No. No, I think that they're just on a different level of mainstream voteability compared to everyone else. And like even with that, Laura's the new thing.
Starting point is 01:08:13 So. They're the most expensive performances, so they are going to win. Oh, that's a shitty way to put it. The performances are awesome. The performances are awesome. Yes, I know. The performances are good, but that's going to be like, Mads Mikkelson won last year.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Maddickleson was not the best performance in that training. They were better performances that game. He came in and pretended to be Santa Claus to your baby in a jar. All right. That was pretty fucking dope. Don't forget that. All right. I think honestly, like I'm, I think it'll be Laura.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I would vote Laura. And then I think a close runner up for me is Naji Jeter as Miles Morales. I thought my, I thought his performance was fucking killer in Miles Morales. I think so anywhere. I really didn't enjoy his performance. Miles for Alice. I'm kind of with you, Tim. I think that it, like, his take on it
Starting point is 01:08:58 is, I feel like it doesn't fit the character. And maybe that's because we're so fresh off of Spider-verse. But they treat the character similarly enough that, like, what he does and how he acts, where I just, I just don't, like, it comes up a little too nerdy, which I get he's a nerdy guy, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:18 I don't think it works when he's like fighting villains. I think it works great when he's interacting with the neighborhood. Yeah. I liked it all. I thought he felt not the actor, but the performance had Miles being unsure of himself in the suit, which I dug. And I like that feeling. I liked that back and forth.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And I thought he walked the line, no spoilers, between Miles' private life and Miles Spider-Man life and the waves of emotion between all that. Like I said, you know, in our review or whatever again, no spoilers, don't worry about it. Like, you know, I, the next morning talking to Jen and explaining everything that happened, I got choked up and nearly cried twice. and both of those were drawn off of what he was going through as Miles. I liked that performance so much. Yeah, like I didn't dislike his performance,
Starting point is 01:09:58 but I think when I compare it to some of the best performances of the year, I look at Ellie and I look at Abby, and I even look at like a lot of the characters in Hades. And I think I see way more range there as far as the emotion that's being portrayed and the lengths that some of these performers are going to that I never felt like it got out of Miles, more so because like not even, like there's no point in Spider-Man Miles Morales,
Starting point is 01:10:20 where Miles is like suffering, like some of these other characters are in their games. And so, like, you know, he didn't necessarily have the option to, like, go there. But even in the moments where he is being Spirited Man, or he's being Miles, like, some of this performance read to me is almost, like, too innocent, like, too clean.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I know Miles is, like, a great dude and, like, a hero, and doesn't really have an ounce of negativity or evil in him. But, like, I don't know, at a certain point, I was like, man, this guy is really like, hey I'm Miles Morales and like that's kind of the the direction that I got out like that all that that that's it I do want to go back to what I was saying a little bit earlier about the expense of performance is one of the things we do when voting is we unconsciously tie quality performance to how well it's like vocabpt and portrayed and stuff like that because the video games aren't interactive are a visual medium in many ways so like arthur morgan won in 2018 uh madd mickleson won last year I think that's that trend will probably continue and in that case I think last of runs away with it. It's the question of which last of us does.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah. I go I go Ellie mainly because I think she is probably the more popular character even though I personally liked Abby better in the game but I think if I think we're just talking about like if people had to choose between Abby and Ellie for a
Starting point is 01:11:37 character they're going to vote for in a thing. I think people are going to go Ellie because she's more popular. I think they'll go Abby in this one. Because they're both immaculate in it but yeah I go I go lower for sure. I want to give a shout though to Briano White as Ayrth in Fall Patsy 7 remake. I'm a little shocked.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Oh, yeah. No Final Pne C7. Oh, yeah. Was nominated here. But I get it. It was, again, like Greg said earlier, you can't really go wrong on this. Like, but man, Airth was awesome. Next up, we have audio design.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Recognizing the best in-game audio and sound design. Doom Eternal, Half-Life Alex, Ghosts, Zashima, Resident Evil 3, Last of Us Part 2. I go Last of Us. Agreed. Dume Turtle confuses me a lot. Because I remember reporting multiple times during the year that there are issues with audio mixing and controversy around that
Starting point is 01:12:27 stuff and like that stuff wasn't as good as Doom 2016. And I feel like that's affected nothing when it comes to his nominations. I mean, when you punch a guy, it sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. And when I was playing the game, I was kind of like oh yeah, no, this is good. Like I don't notice anything wrong, but I remember reading the stories. This isn't
Starting point is 01:12:43 terrible. This is okay. Yeah. Like reading the stories, people wrote like the audio is terrible. Put it into audacity. Look how flat the lines and like in the game it's like it seems fine but I guess I don't know I'm not an engineer so I mean that's the thing about audio design is that you don't notice it until somebody knows it
Starting point is 01:12:58 for you and like I think in that case like we I think we that started Sam market made it last year with Call of Duty and that was right so I think this year they make it people talk a lot about last of us is audio design
Starting point is 01:13:12 I think that's what's going to win because people talk about it a lot and it's also emaculate again going back to it last of us too was such an achievement in so many ways. And like you can dislike the game for not liking the gameplay loop or not liking the story or whatever. You can't dislike it for its technical achievements.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Oh, yeah. It is from an audio perspective, like, oh my God, the 3D audio in that game is legitimately next level. Like, now we're in the PS5 next gen of what 3D audio is. But like, Lasso was too was phenomenal. I actually bet Half Life Alex probably really competitive and maybe even better. Never played it. Can't say.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Yeah. I played it. I don't think it was better. Okay. So all of us, Tulu? Yeah. This is where this is, you start getting to the top categories. I feel like this is where last year starts piling out. Tewu and Hades, I think, are going to be, once you get into these categories, are going to
Starting point is 01:14:02 probably take a lot of, a lot of way. Interesting. Best score and music for outstanding music, inclusive of score, original song and or licensed soundtrack. Do Maternal, Final Fantasy 7 remake. Hades. Ori and the Will of the Wisp's. Last was part two.
Starting point is 01:14:17 It should be. It should be FF7. FF7. You know what, man? Because I was going to go Hades off the bat, just because that game has been a phenomenon. But the fact that we all just off the bat said it should be FF7, I'm going to predict FF7 because I think a lot of people are going to feel the same way.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Yeah, I'm going FF7. Honestly, soundtrack to all these games is phenomenal. I think Doom Returnal had the issue that Bless was talking about, and a lot of people argued that Doom 2016 had a better soundtrack. But anything I've heard from Mitt kicks ass, Yeah, it still kicks ass is the thing. Like, playing it, I was still like, this soundtrack is phenomenal. I didn't notice anything.
Starting point is 01:14:54 But, you know, BFG Division from Doom 2016 is still a slapper. I do wonder how does F.7, unlike Greg, I guess there's a question I'm asking you. How does it sound when you remove it from nostalgia? Like, how was that soundtrack without like, oh, God, this is Aeros theme kind of thing? I have absolutely no recollection of it and would have not. I wouldn't have even thought of it for this category. and I mean of these of these right now trying to pick a nominee or whatever like I obviously like you know I know it was good or whatever I will I want to give a shout to OIA in the Will of the Whisp because I have that on my Spotify like most listen to thing like the soundtrack to this game is high up there and but to be fair the only reason five Fancy seven remake didn't beat it is because it's not on Spotify I you know what I'll go with you I'll say it for seven remake because even if it doesn't win it won in my heart at last I'm going to choose an interesting one where I feel like it kind of has a real, real good chance.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Go for a chance for sure. I'm going to say Last of us part two. That's where I think. I think, you know, I think again, all these games have great soundtracks and I can see any of them winning, with the exception to do maternal probably, even though I know it kicks and fucking goes. But like, I think Last of us with both the Gustavo stuff that is so iconically last of us, but then also like how important guitar is in that game and how important future days is that, of course, is from Pearl Jam featuring Eddie Vedder. And that's why he'll be a game wards. I think it's, I think there's something going on there. And I think this is what, like we're saying, where they start taking off.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Haiti, Eric, what do you fight the Air Buster boss and still more fighting plays and it's fucking dope rock orchestral operatic remix? I don't know, man. No, you're right, though. I get it. It is going to be between the two of them. Don't overthink it. Go for mainstream.
Starting point is 01:16:38 It'll be funny if they do have any better present this award. Like, Last of it doesn't win. I laugh. So I at least hope for that. Well, who's the thing? Is he presenting the award? I don't know. You don't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Because they always do the Game Awards orchestra thing where they do for a game of the year, they play music from each of the games. I think we're going to hear future days. It's part of that medley. Yeah. We'll see. Also, Darren Corb, you can't underestimate him. The composer over at, uh, uh, Hades, Super Giant.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Super Giant. Yeah, the composer over at Super Giant. He is fucking phenomenal. and people like you have you have him as a as a person that is attached to him as an artist that people know right i know final fantasy has the same thing but like i think a lot of folks are going to vote for hades because like you know darren corb is this dude who can make great music in the music in that game is great obviously uh best art direction for outstanding creative and or technical achievement and artistic design and animation bob c7 remake ghostess Shima, Hades, ori in the will of the wisp's, the last was part two. What of.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Man, that's a great category. I would give it to all of them if I could. It's a great category, but I think Ori still stands above it. I'm leaning towards Ori just because it is the most art looking of all of them. Yes, it is the most art. But is that enough? I think most people are going to go like, I really want to put Ori's somewhere, and this is the best place to put it. I would not be shocked if in terms of nominations it ran ahead of the rest.
Starting point is 01:18:18 That's why I'm with Imron's argument, but that's what I apply to Goses Sashima, where I think, you know, the noir filter, those, you know, lush yellows.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Like when I think of that game, I think of riding through the field, right, and seeing that color palette expand and change the wind flowing through the areas. Yeah, I think that's where people are able to go, oh,
Starting point is 01:18:39 that's what we want to, we want to give it something this year. We want to honor it there. God, I wish, I wish legends came out at launch, because I know people voting probably mostly didn't play.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Legends and the shift in art direction from Goshena proper to Ghostosha Legends is insane especially when you get into the raid and you start to see their uses of red and you start to see pools of blood and all this different shit that's like very dynamically
Starting point is 01:19:04 different but still holds the same like feel and tone of proper Ghostos Sushima but like the opposite of it where instead of like these serene environments you get the fucking aggressive like here are demons and here's blood and here's fucking tragedy and all this shit. Like, it is very well done and very striking.
Starting point is 01:19:24 And it would probably be, probably be my pick for this category, but I don't know if it's going to get it. Because I don't think most people played it. Legends specifically. This is another category. Everything's so good. But I want to give a shout out to Last of Us 2
Starting point is 01:19:38 for technical achievement and artistic design and animation. The animation in that game is insane. Nottie Dogg's always been so crazy with that. Like, I remember being at a game spot, playing uncharted as a demo for the first time and like you get into the water and you get out and his jeans were wet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And it was just like, oh my God. That was 2006, seven, right? 2020 playing this game, every moment was that. Oh shit, there was an animation for that. Oh my God. They actually animated this that way. Like it was just such a ridiculous achievement. But I don't think it's going to win because it is the argument that we keep making.
Starting point is 01:20:15 I think it is going to win other things and they're not thinking of it way because it lacks the art you know it lacks the like colors really that's what it is it's not as like vibrant standout like it is like it's technically probably the best it's probably technically the best like art direction on this list i don't know man have you played oria 6k like that game is that's true i'm not that is more impressive than pretty much i think i see it on this list let's go through this greg what do you say i'll sing with ghost bless So hard because I look at Final Fantasy 7 remake. And I like, there's one scene when Barrett is like looking at the camera without his
Starting point is 01:20:54 sunglasses on. And I remember being like, that is a handsome man. Like the fact that they were pull, uh, pull off the fact that these characters look as good as they do is very impressive. But then also I look at Hades and like, if we're talking about art, oh my God, the art in that game is fantastic. I'm going to go Hades. I'm going to Rory.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Same. Best narrative. for outstanding storytelling and narrative development in a game. 13 Sentinels, Iguess Rim. Final Fantasy 7 remake, Ghost of Sushima, Hades, Last of Us Part 2. This will be Last of Us. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Yeah, it'll be last of us. I mean, that game is divisive, but I don't think it's divisive on critics. Yeah. Like that game's stories specifically. Totally. Across the board, T.LU2. Best Game Direction,
Starting point is 01:21:48 awarded for Outstanding Creative Vision, innovation in game direction and design. Fall Fantasy 7 remake, Ghosts of Tsushima, Hades, Half-Life Alex, Last of Us Part 2. It's Last of Us. But I want to be fucking Final Fantasy 7, man. Final Fantasy 7 had no right actually coming out and being as good as it was. It's a shock. There's a chance to be Final Fantasy 7.
Starting point is 01:22:13 We talked about this last year. And we always think, like, best game direction usually, this should be game of the year, but we want to give game of the year to something else. Yeah. The way I started thinking about it is Game Direction is best game Whereas Game of the Year is like What the fuck is the game of the year?
Starting point is 01:22:29 Like what game defines this year? Mm-hmm. I think it's Last of Us here. I think it'll be Last of Us here. I think this is the one they're going to be like They'll bring Neil Druckman out on stage And like he'll accept the award and it'll be like Yeah, it's Neil Druckman.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Here's the person who associate with Last of Us And like that'll be this thing Like it was for Kajima and Destraining last year. I agree. I think it'll be last as part two for this one. Last of us. Across the board. And then finally, game of the year, baby. Game of the year, game of the year. A game that delivers the absolute best experience across all creative and technical fields.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Doom Eternal, Final Fantasy 7 remake, Ghosts of Sushima, Hades, Animal Crossing New Horizons, The Last of Us, Part 2. I think there's three legitimate possible choices here. Which would be? Hades, Animal Crossing, and Last of Us. I think those are the three that are going to be like the ones people are really voting for. I think Animal Crossing is probably the most impactful game of 2020. Like, it is by far the most popular.
Starting point is 01:23:38 I'm pretty sure it at this point is the best selling of Glast Cobdini is sold it by this point. It is the game that like represents the year of COVID, of all of us staying inside of, Like, here is the game that just says what games are. And I think by that virtue, it might get a lot of votes. But last year it was Sekiro and none of us expect to Sekaro. So I don't want to like this really go with the expectations. And my heart says Hades. My head says Last of Us.
Starting point is 01:24:08 So while you guys are debating that, I'm going to try and remember figure out which one of those I agree with. My thing is I think the vote is going to be split every which way with the exception of Dume Eternal. I think Duma Trenel is going to get the least of the votes. I then think that Final Fantasy 7 and Ghosts are going to battle it out at that second tier. I do think that there is then a top tier. I think Hades is the game that a lot of people are going to vote for, and that means they're not voting for something else. So it's going to take away from one or the other,
Starting point is 01:24:37 and I think it's going to take away from Last of Us, not from Animal Crossing. So it's going to be a close race between Last of Us and Animal Crossing, but I think at the end of the day, it's Last of Us. I think it's as well. That didn't help me at all. So I think we're kind of underestimating Final Fantasy 7 here a bit
Starting point is 01:24:57 because I think not only was it an amazing game, I think the connection a lot of people that are going to be voting have with Final Fantasy 7 in general, like even just separated for remake, Final Fantasy 7 as a thing
Starting point is 01:25:09 and Final Fantasy as a franchise is going to outweigh both Doom Eternal and Ghost of Shima by far. Like I think Ghosts of Shihersi, and Doom Eternal probably can be the last two in terms of this category. And then the top four are going to be between the remaining four.
Starting point is 01:25:27 I think the top two is going to be between Hades and the last part two. Because Hades is that game when we talk about critics and talk about the people that are voting in this category. Hades is the game that everybody wants to win. I think Hades is the game that everybody is holding hands on and is agreed on that, hey, this is a fantastic game. And we all, we're all nerds here. like we all love the type of game this is from the art direction from the story from the actual gameplay. And last part two,
Starting point is 01:25:54 I feel like it's just mainstream and divisive enough that people look at it and they look at Hades and they're like, you know what, man? Like, Hades is just a game that we love. Let's go, let's give it to Hades. I feel like people want that type of game to win. And the same with that, like last year
Starting point is 01:26:10 Untitled Goose game, and I don't want to compare those two games because I know Hades is way better than the Tattled Goose game. But the way that Untitled Goose game ran away with quite a few Game of Wars last year. I think Hades gets that kind of treatment as far as people wanting something different, new, and dynamic. The more we talk about this,
Starting point is 01:26:27 the less I think Hades has any actual chance period. Really? Yeah, because I think that, like, there's going to be the very loud people that are standing up for Hades because it is a critical darling and, you know, the people that know about it, love it. Not enough people are going to know about it.
Starting point is 01:26:42 And those people are going to vote for it, and it's not going to be nearly a majority. And like, bless bringing up Fall Fantasy 7. When you talk about Falun Fantasy 7 and Last of Us 2, which without thinking too hard, are probably my number one and two game of the years. I think that when we're talking about the divisiveness between them, what Imran brought up earlier is the critics aren't divided on Last of Us. It's the audience.
Starting point is 01:27:05 And when we're talking about the New York Times, when we're talking about all this stuff, they're all on Last of Us 2. The critics are the ones divided on a Palm Fantasy 7 remake, including the fans too, but so are the critics. Right. A board of critics and like I say this with as much love as possible as someone who really loves 5-67 remake
Starting point is 01:27:21 they're not going to give a Tetsu Yenomura game game of the year. Like it's not going to happen. I will say the discussion for Last of Us part two was centralized in June. Like that was when that game was talked about and then after that nobody really talked about that game.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Maybe it's because all the discourse was done. Maybe that's the case. But like, Hades is a lot fresher in people's minds. and like Greg you said last of us too right that was your choice correct yeah if you're going for the more mainstream argument why is that not animal crossing uh because i mean we're talking into the weeds
Starting point is 01:27:56 i think for maybe i'm wrong for what a past gregg's talking about but i think past Greg's talking about uh you know the other categories where i started talking about this that and debating where it would go for game of the year i think you're it's the normal thing of kawakini like what defined gaming what was the best gaming experience this year what game pushed the medium forward and I think last of us and arguably did that and I know that's totally arguable but it is whereas I think Animal Crossing is even more into what you're talking about in Ron of like Animal Crossing came out and granted we've all can't even play I'm still playing
Starting point is 01:28:26 it doing all these different things but how many other people are like oh I've never I haven't touched that in months and I jumped in for the event and I left and I did this why did they give us the even jumping in I don't feel like Animal Crossing is wowing me it's still doing what I want of me moving shit around my island in my little playbox but I don't think it's like it's like it's It was an experience. You don't have a presidential campaign. Like, you don't see Joe Biden dressing up as Joel. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:28:49 Like, to me, this comes back to last year, none of us got Sekaro. And like, maybe that was just, it was a weak year overall. And like, that's what it was. Yeah. Last year was just two split across everything. Because no, there was no consensus. Yeah. Last year was what, Sekiro control.
Starting point is 01:29:06 And I can't even remember what the other nominees were. Resident Evil 2. Oh, yeah. And that should have won. Smash Brothers and Outer World. for some reason made it on there. That's last year's the maternal. How do worlds did make it?
Starting point is 01:29:16 Yeah. Fuck. I'm going to be controversial. I'm going to say Hades for this one. So, Bless, it's on you. 80s. Oh.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Yeah. There we go. Me and Greg Tilu. Blessing Imran. Yeah. Because I'm still, I'm with Emron's point as far as how the conversations have gone for both games, where last and Spartes' conversation
Starting point is 01:29:40 did kind of start and end, in June slash July where I still see folks on Twitter and I know like this is a very like specific group of people I'm talking about because I'm talking about people that are either in the industry or that are paying attention to like gaming podcasts and stuff but I still people on Twitter, I still see people on Twitter being like
Starting point is 01:29:57 oh yeah I booted up Hades for the first time yesterday after seeing everybody talk about it and man like what a game like this is not my favorite game this year like I see that conversation so much in a way where I can see Lasso's Part 2 and Animal Crossing maybe split in the Ville somehow because of popularity like yeah i think i don't know i think when we're talking about critics and we're talking about people who are voting i think haydies is the one that's taken it away
Starting point is 01:30:23 last year it was fran that was say in secro we all laughed at him you you then we had that but this year bless i could be wrong and we'll find out next week but i think that you're you're going to be seeing a reddit post eventually saying you should you should have went a little more mainstream but we'll see maybe see next week, baby, because we will be doing a live reaction to the game awards, Twitch.tv.tv slash Kind of Funny Games. We'll be right there for you. Right now, we're going to do the Post Show, the Patreon exclusive post show for Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny Game supporters. Imron. What are you got for us today?
Starting point is 01:30:57 I am pulling from the Imron or ImRite or Imrong, I think is what I named it, a list that we used last time, and I'd remember which one I've used before. So hopefully, let's get to it. Until next time. Love you guys. Bye. Thank you.

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