Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Predicting the Game Awards Announcements - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 147

Episode Date: December 5, 2017

Joey and Andy join Tim and Greg to talk about Doki Doki Literature Club and predicting what games will be announced at The Game Awards. (Released first to Patreon Supporters on 12.01.17) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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one of the coolest dudes of video games. Greg Miller. Good to see how I'm trying to find candy canes. You're trying to find candy cans. The Animal Crossing Pocket camp seasonal event first ever is here and the candy cane prices are too damn high there you need so many candy canes to make all of those things i'm talking like that one politician the rent is too damn high i remember that guy got it got it yeah so you go here you go your crafting

you go to your little special crafting right let's say i want a christmas tree which you know i do it's 500 bells a steel eight i need 100 candy canes now granted i'm up to 85 did you live i started during the games daily and I didn't really commit to it. Have you tried the candy cane exploit?

No, what is it? I'm just making shit out. I got really excited. It sounded right. It sounded right. Look at the Snowman 300

candy canes. This is like the Dudley Moore movie in which there were candy canes. I don't remember it well. I was a child. Was it? Remember where they

the candy canes they like put him into they like they put them into the sleigh to make the sleigh fly or something? I'm gonna need a Nick Scarpeino in here at some point. No,

I'm thinking if I'll play with gold. How much of this shit have you unlocked? Because I'm sure you have a hundred and twenty. Fucking Jesus Christ, John. What's your level right now? Are we gonna talk about games later in the show? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, I'm sorry, we should probably see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this, of course, is Joey Noel, joining us for the first time from the beginning of a kind of funny games cast. Yay! So that should be fun. We have her for two very specific reasons.

One of them rhymes with mokey, mokey, Jesus, literature mob. And the other rhymes with whatever the fuck, I don't even know what it rhymes with. What's, I always forget the name. It's animal. Crossing Pocket Pals and friends? Pocket camp.

We're camping. Okay, okay. So we're going to talk about that for a bit. And then Andy's going to come on, talking about some games he's playing. Yeah, but hey, I think it'll be fun. This is the Kind of Funny Games cast each and every week. We get together, talk about video games, all the things that we love about them. Cool Great just brought a beanbag in the room that I didn't even know that we had.

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That's what you got to do for cool. All right. So let's get, we can get, oh, Patreon producer, Tom Bach. The homie. The homie. And also, Andrew Renee is up for Trending Gamer of the year for the video game awards. If you didn't know somehow,

if you were sleeping under rocks. Go to Google. Put Trending Gamer vote in. You can vote right there in your search engine. Super easy. Way easier. Win it for her like you did for me in 2015. You can vote once a day.

And this is the final week. Game Awards are next week. Right. It's going to be a good time. Thursday, if you're getting this late. It's true. It's very true.

No matter what, when you're listening. I guess we're in the final week. The final week. The final count down. B'A. B'litt'i. All right, let's start with this animal crossing stuff.

Sure. Yay. Joey, I have so many questions because we've never talked about Animal Crossing Pocket Camp together. Correct. What level are you right now and how small are you going to make me feel? I think I'm 29. Okay. It's not that bad.

I'm 19 about to hit 20. I'm not obsessively playing it. You know what I mean? I go through my peaks and valleys. Yeah. Where I think the last two days I haven't really been on at all. Over the weekend though, Jen and I were parked on the couch. Like Sunday was the perfect day.

Sunday we woke up, made breakfast, we sat on the couch, played this game for a while. Then we went and did grocery shopping. We came back, started Westworld. I played some games. I played a little bit of this. I did thank you mail and stuff. It was a beautiful day where I got a lot done. She's way further than me.

I originally wasn't a fan of like the three-hour cycle for being able to do stuff. But it ends up being like a really good amount of time, I feel like. because it gives you enough time to do everything, but it keeps you coming back pretty quickly. Yeah, if one. They have, oh, you're getting it? No,

no, no, I'm saying. It's like, oh, every three hours. You have to come back and blah, blah, blah. Why do you hate it? Why do you just blindly hate?

Honestly, I am being a blind hater right now because I do think that that is something that it is feeding into people's tendencies and not necessarily in a malicious way. It's not like this micro-transaction bullshit way. It's just a way of like,

no, this is a game that wants you to keep coming back into a world that is there and that is evolving over, time. I'm totally down for it. Not for me, but happy you guys are having fun. Yeah. Have you bought any more leaf tickets? No. Day one, I bought the $3.99 packs just to see what it was like, but I haven't. I feel like I might soon. Yeah. I'm down to four leaf tickets right now. Oh, you only have four? Yeah, I've been getting, I was playing fast and loose. What are you at right now? I have like 300.

Have you spent money? No. Yeah, right. Um, so you just not you, well, how do you, how do you, because how much money do you have to? I have like 30,000 bells. How do you play this game? I don't understand how you're playing it like you're out there playing you're like Bobby Fisher you're playing a million chess games at once and I'm over here on the giant checkerboard with seashells playing seashells. You ever have this

checker board at home? You ever have this? I had one of those stupid my parents bought me as a kid the plastic giant checker thing and you had seashell it was meant to go you'd play to the beach or some shit like we're in fucking suburbs Chicago to the beach every goddamn day. You got don't you have lakes and shit? No. Lake Michigan yeah. A bunch of fucking syringes

loading in it. You don't want to go on. At least when I was growing up. Yeah. That's what made us so hard. Back in my day. Back in my day of what I was doing. Yeah. Um, so how do I play? So I go around first, so I go around and do all the things. Of course. Sorry, there's that. Um, I like that has the check boxes. So you know, like what. So does any of this make sense to you? I mean, I'm following along without. So when you look at your map, you have all the faces of the characters out there who have tasks right now. If they have a green check mark next to their name, it means you already have the stuff they need. You can go straight to them and give it. Turn it in. And then as you complete their task, and then as you complete their task,

they give you more tax. And it's usually three, right? And then they're done for three hours unless you spend a reset ticket on. Is there someone right now online that like is getting all the retweets because they have just the fucking dopest little camp? Yeah. People have done some really funny things with their camps of like putting the characters in like little jails.

And there's one where it's just like all these people that looks like they're worshipping lamps and stuff like that. There's some really cool stuff. But here's my problem with that is that the game isn't designed to make me do that. And I hate that. The game is designed for me to get as many friends. possible, which means rather than my space. Right. Rather than me craft what I want and what I want my campsite to look like,

I have to craft what these fuckers want. So they come to my thing and become my friends. So I'm spending a resource. Now granted take people are real people. In the fake people. Got it. Okay. Cool, cool, cool. So you're not trying to seduced Gary Weta. Oh, I already seduced Gary Weta. He's in the camp. Don't worry about that. He's all over the place. Brian Althano. They're there. Amarice? She's there. I got everybody. Jen. She's there in pig tails. It's weird. But, uh, you get, you know, you, you buy. You get these guys in, you make their furniture. That unlocks new people.

But these new people then unlock new styles of furniture. So it's this weird. Do you know, is there, I haven't even looked into it. Is there an encamp? Is there like how many people I'm going to get? Are you still unlocking people at level 29? Yeah. So I have, I don't know.

These are like the last people. Yeah. Oh, the last people. Or the last people that I have. Gotcha. I don't know what the end cap was. I was starting to think like, man, this isn't going to last very long because I started to look at the stretch goals and I had done most of them.

But now they have all of this holiday stuff. And I'm like, oh. Holiday stuff came around, right. Yeah, that was a good time. It was really good time. The holiday stuff has motivated me. I won't lie when it got announced today and then dropped today and I find out about it. And I jumped in there.

I'm like, yeah, I want a sand outfit. Yeah, I want a Christmas tree. Yeah. Well, I heard you had a problem. A little pants problem. I'll have a pants problem for sure. Can you please tell me about your pants problem, Greg? So here's the problem.

Animal Crossing is all about the look. How do you want your character to look? I start this game. I'm in a shitty. MVP shirt. I got shitty shorts on. No glasses. I keep going back to fucking the able sisters here looking for their crap every day. They reset multiple times on the three hour time window too. I go in there. Finally, they got glasses. I buy the glasses. Great. Finally, one other day I go in there, they got a black t-shirt finally. It says BB on it, whatever the fuck that means, but whatever.

It's a black t-shirt with white lettering. That's a Greg Miller kind of shirt. Buy that, put that on. However, I ain't going to be wearing shorts my whole life. So I just settle and buy some goddamn golf pants. He's like this plaid red and, you know, burnt orange. It's not ugly pants. Just not Greg Miller pants. And I'm like, I will live with these shameful pants until I can buy jeans like a normal human being. Then today, Brian Altono blows up my spot on Twitter, puts up a lovely image of us barbecue in. He puts up a very sweet message and at the end takes a shot at the pants.

And it's like, I would give you the money, Nintendo, mobile Animal Crossing developer people. I will give you the money to give me the real pants. today as if they wanted to rub salt in the wound. I go there. They're selling jeans with fucking knee pads. Like, do I look, do I look like a character in the Aeroverse where I need to go out and defend things at night?

No, I just want some fucking jeans to look normal. However, now they got a Santa suit. Let's fucking, let's go. Let's go. Now, again, I don't know what this candy cane business is all about. You know what I mean? Because they're giving them out in small, you know, I don't know.

I need to get in there. The fucking shovel strike mountain now apparently has a bunch of, why do you hate that? Because it's just super annoying. So Kevin says, what does that mean over there, away from his mic as he does? In the game, there's all these different areas of camps to go to. Then there is shovel strike mountain. What this has been before is that you would need to either give 20 leaf tickets.

Correct me if I get anything wrong. 20 leaf tickets to get in or the help of five friends. Which is just... These are real life. Your real life human being friends. Where you would just go there and hit it and then you say, request five friends. You go through as many friends as you got. hopefully they go in there, exactly chain mail,

and hopefully they give it back to you and you do it. Then you go in there, there's some wobbly looking guy who looks like one of them Final Fantasy Cactus but I don't think it's a Final Fantasy Cactus. And he's like, oh, fucking break the rocks and get some money and shit. Like, all right, break all the goddamn rocks. Break some rocks and get some money. Do you even have them in your inventory?

Oh, I don't know. I assumed I was just getting money out of it or something. I wasn't paying much attention. And now apparently candy canes are hidden there. Maybe I don't. I still don't do those sparkly rocks either. I have them. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that's like a crafting material, right? But I haven't had anything asked for Sparkly Rocks. Really? These guys are there? I think it's some of the higher quality recipes need it. I like how your character looks, Charlie. Thanks. I spent 7,000 bells on that dress. The economy needs some work. Now, but this is back to my thing with the pants. Is the fact in OG Animal Crossing, the Animal Crossing all of no and love, you can design your own shirts. Now they have the crafting section there for clothes and it just says coming soon.

And it's like, fucking come now. All right? I'm ready for it now. Yeah. And that was the thing as I started to drift away though. Now they got the Santa stuff. I got it. I want to get some stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And so here, Ammaris, I think put it best on Twitter. Of course, everyone knows. Amarice. And if you don't, there's no easy way to explain who she is. She, God, that's true. She tweeted out on Monday.

She's been playing this game nonstop. She's super into this game. She tweeted out a fake conversation, you know. And it was, hey, Amarice, you've been playing that Animal Crossing. And then it was her response. Yeah, I love it. And the person going, is it good? And her going, no.

and that's pretty much sums up it, Animal Crossing, is that it's not a game, as much as it is, tasks to do and feel good about accomplishing. I get it, but it is, it is what it is. It's Animal Crossing in mobile form. Yeah. And what it is,

I mean, I understand it to an extent of analogy to it being like a fidget spinner. Where what is it doing? It's keeping me from refreshing Twitter the millionth time in a row. We're going to Reddit to see if something else is pop there. I still do all that. But then I come here and I end up sinking the downtime I have, but you know, like 15 minutes before shows, isn't enough for me to jump on the PlayStation 4 and do something? There's the question that, Rick, have you wasted time on the Animal

Crossing Reddit because of this game? Because that, yeah, yeah, he has. I might have just subscribed to the pocket pals. You're in this. I'm not in this, but I enjoy it. And it's a stupid time wasteer. And that's what I was talking about earlier a second ago of like I'm thinking about putting more money into it because I feel they've earned more of my money. I'm enjoying the game and I'm playing the game a lot. So why not get a whole bunch more leaf tickets that, you know, whatever. That's my thing. So you're not using leaf tickets ever to speed things up or? I'm not using it to speed things up. The only thing I'm using it for is like, um, the fishing, casting the nets and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. People, I'll tell you what, in this Animal Crossing pocket camp,

people squid crazy. These motherfuckers love squids and fruit beetles. Well, and it's weird because things you said that so like matter of fact everybody at home right now who plays this game they're going I get it I get it Gregi you tell them and that's what's happening Everybody wants a squid and a fruit beetle Yeah you go there Kevin

You go there Kevin and you can fish in the river Fish in the ocean Oceans where the squids are And then some people you know All these people want things from you Some people want a bunch of squids and apples and shit And then you go over the other place They all want the fucking fruit beetle

But only the fruit beetle For me usually only appears on the back tree, so I got to go through there. Only the back tree? Usually. Sometimes I'll get a fruit beetle up front. Sometimes I'll get a fruit beetle up front. Usually in the back, right tree is where I'm going to get that fruit beetle.

Have you used the honey yet? Fuck, Joey. Did I just wake up and start playing Animal Crossing today? Yeah, I've used the honey. You kidding me? I'm putting honey on stumps all over the place. You playing this shit, Andy? Fuck no. Andy, no.

Andy's not. It's, it's. there's something to it. It has a good hook. It's got a good hook. It's satisfying to fuck with your character. It's, you can play it for free.

It's, so does heroin. Kevin Gola. I, it's, there's something charming about it, even though it's not a great game or anything. Totally get it.

But it's also like so many people, like, you know, you the other night, we went off for some cocktails. And we were talking a little bit about this game. You, of course, just all flying over your head. But then you brought up Chrissy Tegan.

You know, how she's been taking it to task and doing all the stuff. And I was like, I had seen some of those. and I started following her. She's in the same boat, right? Yeah.

I think this game's not that great, but she keeps playing. She put, like, what? She's, like, $120 in over the weekend is what she said. She got that dumb legend money, man. Oh, Tom Nook chair. I don't even know what that is. Oh, it's a special chair and it's really expensive.

Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. Oh, you got that. You got that Christy Teigen money. You got that Christyke and money. Exactly. All right. Any more things to say about Animal Crossing Pocket Camp and pals?

I like it. I like it. Cool. Yeah. It's fun. It's dumb. It's, like I said, it keeps me off. Because here's the thing, here's the thing. The amount of time I've done it where I come home, right?

And I'm like, I'm going to fuck around on my phone for a second. And I look at Reddit for 45 minutes and feel like I accomplish nothing. Now I accomplish nothing, but I see something. You know what I mean? Now I see, I told you a funny story about my BB shirt. I'm going to call my BB 88 shirt right there. Maybe it means best boy. Maybe it means best buy.

Maybe it means bongos. What's put some money on the stove? Yeah, no, I get it, man. I waste a lot of time on Reddit, but it's all good. But I wouldn't call that time wasted, though. You know what I did? You know what I did? Time will spend.

On Sunday, I want to say it was. I found a new Reddit that I love, a new subreddit called Wholesome Gifts. Okay. And it's just a bunch of gifts of like soldiers coming home and like, you know, people hearing for the first time and like all these moments. People opening up puppies for Christmas. Exactly. Or like kids.

People seeing colorblind. Yep. Colors for the first time. were like kids that, uh, were adopted asking their parents, asking their like adopted parents like 10 years later to adopt them. And I just let's a fucking cry fast. I probably four hours, just scrolling through the whole thing. I was crying alone in my bed.

You wasn't even there. It was just me. And I was just having this just emotional downpour. So I understand. I understand. Can I give you one? Do you need to follow then? Humans being bros.

Humans being bros. There was a great one the other day. These guys are out in like an icy lake. and there was just like a giant piece of ice floating and there was like a dog trapped on it. And they went over there and they coasted in the boat finally. Because I'll tell you, man. Through food in the water.

With all the reddits that I follow, seeing that one pop up next to the other ones, one of these things is not like the other. I think it's real weird, real fast. Do you follow? No, no, no, no. Yes. I do not, but that's fantastic. It's like all these gifts and stuff.

We're like, oh, this guy. A guy had a bite going down a mountain and it's like, oh, shit. No, no, no. And then he like, lands perfectly. And it's like, oh. That's a good one. That's great.

Anyways, enough with the Reddit at Animal Crossing. Joey, you are on the show for a very specific reason. And that is to explain the national craze. Oh my God. That is. Doki Doki Literature Club. Yes. It's really hard to explain.

That's the other thing. Is like, are either of you planning on playing this? Everyone tells me I should. But they also, it's a gone home situation where I hear you have to play it. It's only four hours. Don't know anything if you're going to play it. Yeah. I don't really know.

I mean, it's a PC game. You know what I mean? I go to my PC. I got to get my taxes. Mind sweepers right there. You know what I mean? I ain't got time to fucking play. Yeah.

I wanted, when everyone was talking about, I'm like, this looks like a Tim Getty's ass game. I should play this. But I was like, I don't really want to play it by myself. Like I was,

my first thought, I was like, I want to play with Andy. I want me and Eddie. I want me and just sit and play through this thing. Uh, you could play it with another. It's,

I mean. I just didn't want to. I just didn't want to sit at home on my computer doing this shit. Like, nah. But then the zeitgeist I say is gone. So give me, I know nothing about it. Literally nothing about it. Yeah, it's a, it's a, can we do spoiler free?

Yeah. So we'll do spoiler free. Do spoiler free and spoilers meaning like the, don't gone home ruin it. You know what I mean? Okay. That's hard. So it's a visual novel? Yeah.

Okay. Dating sim. So you're a student. Uh-huh. I think they, I think you're a dude. And then you. meet up with your neighbor and she convinces you to join this dokey-dooky literature club at school. So it's her and it's three other girls.

One's the president. You can't romance her and then you pick between the other three. So like for the first hour or two, it's like pretty normal and then things take a drastic turn. In a sexy way? No. Okay. It's spooky, right? So no spores.

small and shit. Are we going to? So now that's the thing. That's the pitch on it. Okay. Andy's talking off my phone if you hear it. I don't I don't know if it's play. We don't have time to do that.

When do we do that? Yeah, when do we do that? He's just moving his hands now. He's just making jerk off motion. That's not that. I don't think I'll ever end up playing it. So I'd like you to for me. Andy, you can go in the other room. We'll yell for you when it's your time, Andy. He can barely get out of the,

he can barely get out of that beanbag chair. So, all right, so now we're going into spoilers. Can you spoil it bro us? We're putting up the spoiler bro tag. Yeah, that's what he means. Now, while you think about that, how long do you think you'd spoil it?

Like, for an audio listener, how far should we have him? A couple minutes. Let's put it on the clock. Yeah. For audio listeners that for the next three or five, three? Yeah. The next three minutes.

Can I will commit to going through and putting it in the description for the audio track of when you can listen again. Okay. Good guy, Joe. Let's see. We're going to say three minutes. We'll check in. You're saying you have three minutes. Three minutes.

I'm setting a three minutes timer. No, he's just going to do it there. And then when the audio goes off. Perfect. We, so you tell you, you say when you're going to hit it. All right. I'm about to hit it. Spoilers beginning in.

All right. You ready? Three, two, one. Holy fuck this game. Really? Yeah. So you have to pick one of the three girl, your neighbor, the like super email. the like super emo girl and like the little like feisty pistol girl.

So it takes you through, you have to pick one to romance, whatever. Eventually the neighbor girl tells you like, hey, I really struggle with depression. I'm falling in love with you. You have to figure out what to say. I didn't romance her. I romance the like super emo girl. Sure. And eventually you like stop hearing from her.

She gets weird, at least for me, she got weird. Is this through text? you're doing this? It's conversation. So how do you stop hearing? Oh, okay, okay. She just stopped coming around? Yeah, you're like,

she doesn't show up to school one day, whatever. Okay, okay. You go and like, you find her and she's committed suicide. So, like, it gets super dark, and it's like, normally with stuff like that, I feel like they show shadows and stuff like that,

but it is like she hanged herself and like, that's why it gives you like the spoiler thing in the beginning of like, hey, this is like really kind of twisted. Yeah. So then you like deal with that. then it like gets weird because it'll restart the game and she won't be an option in there anymore and then you have to pick the other girl and then one of the other girls stabs herself and kills

herself because of you and there's all these weird glitches like the game will glitch out and shut itself down and until you start making different choices it won't let you proceed so you can't when I was playing it I was texting Barrett I was like is this supposed to happen is this not supposed to happen like and he was kind of like helping me with it a little bit and then you get to the end and the one girl you can't romance, it turns out that she knows that this is a game, and it's like super meta. She knows she's in love with you,

and so she's deleting all these character files so you don't fall in love with them. Interesting, that's cool. Then to get to the end of the game, you actually have to go into the game files and delete her character file. And then it restarts the game without her and just the other three girls.

It's super crazy. That sounds awesome. Yeah. How long after you delete the character file, do you have to then beat the game again? So then you restart it, and it starts with just the other three girls, and it takes you through like a little thing

and then it gives you like an actual ending. And there's like a letter that pops up and stuff which I was distracted because I was like trying to talk to people out when that was going through. But it's super, to restart the game, you have to delete the whole game file and re-download it because it like totally fucks with the actual code

and stuff like that. That's fun. Yeah. So how long is it to get to the end of a section? 20 seconds. So this entire thing is four hours? Yeah. So then like...

It's broken up by days. So like you have day one and like, you write poetry and you pick different words and each word is associated with like the personalities of one of the girls. So that's how you romance them is you try and write poetry associated with each one of them. And yeah, we're still having a little bit short. How much time? How much time was it?

We had like five to eight seconds left. We'll just hold on because I mean then so like if they're coming in any time now, you just want them to know it's over. Spoilers are over. Done and done. I'm glad you told me that sounds awesome but I don't think I need to play it. Visual novels, man, I want to like

because I like the Vita and there's a million of them on there and every time I try I was just like I can't even when it was like had a full boyfriend came over I was like yeah everybody loves this Miranda loves it I can't wait to play and I started playing and I just can't get into this Yeah there was a while where I was like

Literally all I'm doing is like clicking this And I'm like there's not a ton of like engagement But it was like a weird Meta game that I wasn't expecting Because based on the disclaimer that you get at the beginning I knew that there was like some sort of twist, but I didn't expect it to go in that direction at all. Yeah.

So yeah, if you want to play it, it's an easy. It's easy. Is it free? Yeah, I was going to say it's free, right? Yeah, so it's just on Steam. So it's not super hard and like pretty accessible. But yeah, it gets, it's, yeah, it's totally different than what I was expecting it to be. Because it's played out as this like super Japanese dating sim and that's not what it is.

Interesting. Yeah. Sounds like the anime school days. She gets fucked up in that. Well, Joey, thank you very. much for joining us. I'll go tag in Andy. Tell us tag Andy in. That should be fun. And he's been playing a couple of video games.

Oh, he's here. He was listening the whole time. Now it's all ruined for him, huh? Can you believe it's really all underwater? The whole time. Hey, guys. What you've been playing? While I was home for Thanksgiving,

right, my Thanksgiving club banger, RGV, we don't play no games, Kevin. I beat Yeah, I played a few games Broke law On the run I'm not allowed Back in

I beat Call of Duty World War II And Wolfenstein too Ooh So I beat Call of Duty World War II Story gets very Very predictable

Towards the end Okay Some really cool moments Can we go in a spoiler Bros. Are you ever going to beat it? No. Probably not. Spoiler Bros. time. I don't think we have to take a timer for this one either.

It's just the end of the call of the campaign. It was interesting because I feel even from the beginning, it was kind of like predictable. Well, sure. When they started introducing guys, I'm like, oh, this guy's gonna get fucking killed. Huh? Did you get it? Okay, maybe not. It gets very, uh, if you ever beat,

you beat Madden in Longshot, right? Yeah. In Long shot, too. It's a long shot too. The moment where he's like about to make the pass and his dad's like, you gotta rip it you gotta rip it you gotta rip it man

the same moment essentially there's one really cool moment that I didn't certainly didn't see coming but your friend who's part of your squad who's the Jew who gets captured by the Nazis and you are given a leave

you're giving the option to leave like you know hey you kicked ass we're gonna give you all this awards you can go home And he's like, no, I'm not leaving until we get back Zussman. Yeah. So I was like, oh shit, that's pretty cool. And essentially Josh Dumail's character is like fucking dick or whatever. And he's like super drunk.

He's like, you're telling me you're staying here when you can leave? Like, are you fucking kidding me? He's all pissed off at him. He's like, we're not leaving without Dussman. And then you find out about Josh Dumel what really happened with him. And the reason why he broke the rules was because he didn't want to leave squadmates behind. And a lot of people died. So that was like his whole why he was such a dark character or whatever

So then you tell Josh Dumel Hey, we're gonna go get our pal and he's all he's super junk He's like all right well you got one shot you know whatever So you essentially you go get him and you're going to look for your friend You're walking through an actual like concentration cap where a lot of people Essentially all the Jewish people had been Like removed from the camp or whatever along with the Germans Because the Germans knew that they had lost these areas

So they left with a lot of with a lot of them and really kind of cool there's an area where you're not walking you can't run in this area you're just kind of walking looking around at the camps and there's a bunch of like dead body it's like really like it's fucking

like haunting almost and essentially you keep walking and you know that the Nazis had just left so eventually find them in the forest and you see Zussman on the ground and he's about to get shot and then the flashback

there are several flashbacks to your brother when your brother's being bitten by the wolf in the forest. Oh, okay. And he's like, take the shot or whatever. And you don't. You think the brother's alive this whole time. The brother died at that moment. So there's like a flashback to where you think you're going back home to go hang out with your brother.

And there's like this, when you're given the leave of absence, you go into this sort of like cutscene where it looks like you actually went home. And he goes home and his wife is like, don't ever leave me again. He's like, I won't. And then you go to the bar. your brother's right there. He's like, what's up? You know this and that? And then it turns out that that was all

just like a dream and he knew that he wasn't going to leave. He was going to stay there until they went to get his friend. So your brother's getting fucking like, you have this flashback to your brother being mauled by the wolf

and you're going to shoot the Nazi dude who's about to shoot your teammate and it's like, take the shot. Take the shot kid or something shit like that. And then you fucking pop that dude in the head. Fucking rip it. And then you save your friend's husband and like,

They do a great job of making him look really skinny and he had been famished for like two months. I think he was captured from several months. He looks really sick and like it's awful. And then you and your squad are you get to go home and, yeah, kind of predictable, but I really appreciate. That sounds awesome. I really appreciate how much work and so spoilers off. I really appreciate how much work that they put into the campaign and what such a level of polish and production. Knowing that Call Duty is still primarily a multiplayer game.

I love seeing that they still care and they give a shit. The story isn't like this crazy story. It's kind of your predictable movie about war or whatever. It's not like an incredible campaign by any means, but I think it's good. I think it's really good. And I'm happy that they at least put effort into it. And it shows.

And then I beat Wolfenstein. Last time I was talking about Woolfenstein. I talked about a part where I kept dying a lot. and then I lowered the difficulty and I kept dying. Lowered it again and it still died two more times before I beat it. And I feel like that area, I must have been doing something incorrectly because the rest of the game was on the easiest difficulty, obviously incredibly easy. I died once because I was looking at my phone or something like that and I ended up getting shot. So I feel like I was giving shit to Bethesda about this, but it may have just been me not accepting or verifying that I had.

had lowered the difficulty all the way. I think I may have switched it and maybe didn't click very... I don't know. You're not alone. I mean, I felt the game was difficult for my first seconds. So I felt like, come on guys, fuck. Even on the easiest difficulty online,

but I... For the rest of the way through, there were times I was like, maybe I should raise it back up because it's... I'm just mowing through people and there's like no challenge whatsoever, which isn't their fault.

That's just how it's designed. But the... For as great of a game as it is, there are a lot of level design issues where you just don't know where the fuck to go. There's so many moments where I'm just like, man, there's even when there's a pointer, I'm like, how the fuck

am I supposed to get there? There's a part in the final scene and it's all coming down to this and it's going to be awesome and it's not obvious where you're supposed to go. It's almost as if they wanted you it's this big climactic moment and instead of just doing

the thing, you have to like huh, how do I get over there? jumping over this railing. I can't jump over the railing. Let me go. No, that area is blocked out. What the fuck? Yeah.

And it's all supposed to like lead up to this awesome moment. And it, but they stuck in one extra little, you know. I felt that way with Uncharted 4, like when you get to the area where there's just a lot of foliage everywhere. Oh. Looks Last of Us. Okay. Yeah.

Where it's like, I feel like there was like one area too many that was just like, a man, we already had a couple like set pieces. Yeah. Keep that momentum going. This is like this is the final scene where it all comes down to you. It's gonna be fucking awesome and the payoff's gonna be great. And they didn't have to put in this stupid fucking thing in there. It's just like it was so frustrating to the point where I had to look up a YouTube video.

Oh really? Where the fuck do I go? What like? And it's a small, it's a room like this. And it's like where the how do I get over there? Yeah. Why can I just do the thing? Why do you have to end and out?

Still though. I thought that was a terrible decision. Um, it's, I mean, it's phenomenal. I think aside from level, uh,

level design problems in some areas and the difficulty ramps, I think it's, there's so many games of the year, in my opinion that could have been game of the year at any moment. That's what I do want to get back to. This would be absolutely up there. This would have been absolutely up there. The, uh,

the acting, the character development, uh, it's fucking awesome, man. Yeah. Really, really good.

Um, started near. Oh, yeah. Not too far into it. I'd say about like two or three hours in. Do you get it? I get it. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Again, this is all just from hype from Twitter. So many people in the kind of funny community that, like, friends of mine, like Danny Juarez and Barrett and blessing and stuff, always talking about near. And like, so I finally dove in over the break. I bought it for like one of their Black Friday deals. And it's awesome. I mean, the environments are very samey.

If I had all the money in the world, I would have, like, given them a bigger budget. Because it seems like 99% of the art budget was spent making... Dark yellow. ...toe, and 9S, like, the main characters. And then a lot of the NPCs look pretty bad. And a lot of the environments are, like, so... I mean, in the intro level, it's clear, like, oh, I guess just, you, you know, from the perspective of someone who made art, It's like, yeah, that texture's here.

Texture one's here, texture two's here, then one and two. And it's just like, there's a lot of areas where rubble kind of looks very similar. How's the volumetric fog? The volumetric fog, not as good as I thought it'd be. Really? Yeah, not as good as I thought. Heartbreaking. The environment, so when you're running around them, there's just one sort of level where you are on Earth, essentially,

and there's like foliage and stuff like that. And it looks like kind of the same complaints that I had about Destiny 2, except Destiny 2 looked even nice to this. It looks like a really nice PS3 game. It looks like I'm running around a PS3 made environment with characters that look way more detailed than anything else in the game. The thing about the game that I love from the demo that they put out in the beginning of the year was just how the gameplay style shifted so seamlessly between the kind of top-down,

bullet-hull, like, twin-stick shooter thing, combined with more of a side-scroller combined with more of a, like double-may-cry feeling action, yeah, shooting, jumping, dashing away. I love the action. I love the combat. It reminds me so much of the first time that I played Middle Gear Solid 1 on PS1.

The way the menus look, the way the camera fixes to certain areas, not the combat, obviously, but the way when you walk into a new room, now you're side-scrolling, you walk into this room, now you're top-down, the way the, just all the little sound effects of being in the menu and the little... like just all the little dings and sound effects.

I can see that. I've been restless since last games cast. So I've tried a bunch of stuff. And I popped near in and played through the intro shooting bullet hell stuff down to the ground running, got the first real taste of combat or whatever. And like menus especially. I was like, you had already said that. So I was looking for it probably. But I was like that feels like Metal Gear.

Yeah. Yeah. There are like you can sell parts that you find or whatever. And you can sell your core, which is your life as a robot or whatever as a. as is Android and if you and when you hover over the core cell or whatever the fuck it's called the processor for what it's called but it says you will die if you sell this and so of course I was like I'm gonna sell it and I sold it and the game went black screen and then it starts up with like your little startup text and it like scrolls up and then you start the game again

and luckily I wasn't very far into it yeah I was like oh that's cool like I love I love touches like that like the way I know that it gets even more psychological down the road like from I've heard it, and I'm looking for more sort of TV turning off and seeing like Hideo 1, you know, Metal Gear sort of shit. Like, I love when game developers get creative. It's such a weird fucking game,

and I can't wait to play more. I just haven't played it really since my break. I popped it in last night, and then I just fell asleep. Because I was so tired. But I can't wait to get more into it. I'm hoping to beat it before we do like Game of the Year stuff, but I don't think

I'll have the time. Sure. And that's what I've been playing. Thank you very much for joining us. Thanks for having me, guys. You can get back. You need to go home. Go build your Gundum.

He had some olive garden today, Greg, and did not treat him well. I'm just telling you, like, there's a lot. I mean, I turned down the Olive Garden because the food's not good and I had better food here. Like, we make a lot of bad decisions here as a company, period. Full stop. But we also make a lot of bad decisions for lunch. Nick got sick going to Dave & Busters yesterday. Horrible decision.

Because he ate a giant piece of fried cheese. Nick, you don't eat that. That's not the kind of food you eat. Yeah. If it's not just straight fucking protein. It's not a beef jerky. You can't get in there, Nick, and just eat a giant thing of cheese. I ate it, I was fine.

Nick ate it and dip some of it in ranch and got sick. Well, like, no shit. Your body can't do that. Kevin and I could do that. Kevin and I could take batteries out of watches, dip them in ranch, eat them, be fine. That is so true. So true.

Now it's time for this week. I don't get to talk about any of the games I've been playing. Oh, did you want to? Yeah. I platinum destiny. I want my round of applause. Congratulations, Greg. Thank you.

Thank you. Oh, how's the story going? Shut up. Still excited for Curse of Osiris. And that's next week. I'm stoked for that. Doing a raid tonight in destiny. Still all in.

Destiny is a great game. I love destiny. I can't wait to play more destiny. I want that out there. The only thing I think worthy, because again, I've been hopping around, right? So I jumped into that Planet of the Apes game

for a little bit. I jumped into last day of June finally. I jumped into Star Wars Battlefront 2's single player finally. Played all these things for like an hour each or whatever. And they're all fine. You know what I mean? Like none of them, the problem was nothing was grabbing me.

I still feel like I'm doing last day of June, a disservice because I liked it so much as the preview event. but I keep trying to wait for that mood, but I tried to force it this time around. I wasn't into it, but it's still beautiful and cool. The only thing of substance then outside of Animal Crossing. It's called last day of June.

Yeah, the last day of June. It's my birthday. Well, it's his wife's name too. Damn, that's really sad. Yeah. Game about my birthday, it'd be a lot happier. Yeah, it would probably,

maybe last day of Tim. You never know. You know what I mean? But the other thing, I think the most amount of time, like a full narrative would be, as I talked about last time on this show, Batman, episode three

of season two, their Batman. I feel like this is a game. Most, you know, telltale games, the people who wait want to marathon them all, I'm always like, I don't know, man, that's not how I want to play them, blah, blah. I feel like this one would play better as a marathon

because I feel both episode two and now episode three have been good and solid, but they're not like wowing me the way season one did. Season one, I felt like every episode had something in there. Whereas like before this I was sitting down. I was like,

I want to talk about episode three. And I was like, fuck, what happened? I went back to Wikipedia and like read that. And like, that's not the way, that's not how I should feel

about a telltale game after the fact. But it's also, it was holiday. We're tired and doing a bunch of different things. The Joker's still great in it. You know, our friend, of course, he was already on the show.

That performance is great. I like what they're doing. That character still don't like Harley's voice acting performance. So like that's taking me out of it every so often. You're working with other super villains that I won't name

in case you're trying to stay completely out of it. They're cool enough. But it is just this thing of like, all right, we're spinning our wheels. Catwoman is shown back up at the end of episode two. Now she's a main player in episode three. That dynamic with her and Bruce was really cool.

That's what I think I really remember coming away from the episode with. I like the choices I made there. It'll be interesting to see what the other choices for people are because this leads into a very different situation that's more, I think, in line with comic books at the moment. And then the choice itself at the end was, I would have struggled to remember it, but then looking it up, I was like, oh, I'm interested to see where we pick up with that. It's not like this game changer.

I feel like it was, it's just, it's a cool cliffhanger or whatever, but it would have been better. It's just one marathon to block, but I can't do that to myself, of course. So I still like it. It's just, I feel like episode, season one was so high and did so much cool shit that this is just like, okay, it's more. We're doing cool things, but yeah. We're not getting our hair blown back. And then Planet of the Apes, you mentioned it. Where are you out with it?

I came home that, I think the night of. gamescast came home and I was like gonna play it it's Tuesday we're all excited and I had forgotten after Alex O'Neill's Irrational Passion's live stream to switch my primary PS4 back to that PS4 so came home and like turned it on I was like fuck it hasn't downloaded it so I started it then we went and watched war the planet of the apes which was a really good movie I enjoyed myself there and then it was time to go to bed so that but I started it and did that thing where I'm like sleepily playing through it and for a game where you have to read a lot of captions because the apes don't all speak it was like I was struggling no

it's PlayLink. So you're on your phone making your choices. Or you can use the controller. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is the one that's even less game. Stick with me because I'm not trying to be insulting than a telltale game. Where it's like, you're just watching the movie and then dialogue choices pop up. And you go left or right with your stick.

Or if you're playing with other people on their devices, everybody votes for what happens. Then we get that thing. I think it's another one where if I was in a room full of Planet of the Apes fans, it would be a little bit more engaging. Like, no, don't say that. Let's chase it. was just me making the choices. It's super quiet and solitary.

And, all right, let's get going. But it's a weird one where I played it that night for like 15 minutes before I fell asleep. And then I, in my hopping around the other night, tried to jump back into it. And I think it did the exact same thing. Now, the game quality is putting me to sleep as much as I'm just exhausted and trying to get as much gaming in as possible. So I don't know.

I'm not super compelled to go back and do it because I'm not like, but it's also, I don't think I'm far enough into the campaign to really care. But I see it from what I've seen. few reviews that have actually popped. People aren't digging it. So who knows? Well, now. Thank you. For this week in gaming history. I'm going to switch chairs while you do that because this is a better chair. And Kevin, buy all these chairs and don't listen to them. One year ago on November 29th, 2016, Final Fantasy 15 came out. Finally. On PS4 and Xbox 1. Not the September release date that we all. What you hack said?

Yeah. Who the fuck would have said that on stage in front of 7,000 people? Definitely not us. Not us, not us. I mean, we didn't say it, technically. Other people said it. We just pointed at it. Seven years ago. Can you believe we did that still? Isn't that such a weird thing to think about?

We're in the credits of that game. Are we really? Yeah. I never rolled them, so I wouldn't know. But what, special thanks? Yeah, we're in the special thanks section. But our names are there. That's awesome.

It's on my Instagram. You can check it out. Instagram.com slash Tim Getty. Scroll back a whole lot. I was going to say that doesn't sound like it's going to be recent. Well, you could probably look around November 29, 2016, and you'd find it there. Seven years ago on November 13th. 20th, 2010. Epic Mickey came out on the Wii.

Wow. Warren Specter. That feels like a long time because it feels more recent than that. I remember them saying they were Warren Specter. I'm going to do this. I was like, man, that does not sound like a good idea. That does not seem like a game. I was so beyond hype for this game. Obviously.

All Disney fans were, and I'm not trying to take away. The Wii's going to get an exclusive, like a big exclusive. Warren Specter, all this signed me the fuck up. Yeah. It's like, oh, it's going to be a 3D platformer. And like, there's going to be a lot of care put into this. I was like, this sounds great. It's a story.

of like the lost things from Disneyland. I'm like, all right, fuck you, this is amazing. Yeah. Codename epic Mickey. Everything about this,

I was just like, this is like the Tim Getty's dark night ification of Disneyland, yeah, into a video game in a genre I love. All that sounded great. The game informer cover came out to announce it all. Yeah.

And I was just like, this is gorgeous. This art style looks super freaking cool. And then the first trailer for the game happened and I was like, oh, no. Like, oh,

what did you? with the name Epic Mickey. I'm like, okay, that's weird. Seems like a code name, but fine. What about the gameplay didn't stick for you? It's way too floaty. Refresh me. It was platform, but all painting.

And then there's the painting and all that stuff. None of that was really the problem. The problem. It was just more that the gameplay wasn't tight. Okay. Like the key to 3D platformers is tight mechanics. And the gimmick needs to be interesting. And it felt like a dumbed down Mario Sunshine in a lot of ways with the paintbrush stuff.

And it always felt like, like the game was at odds with itself when it was trying to get you to progress on the like platforming wise, but then fighting the enemies felt like the controls didn't allow you to move forward while fighting. So it felt very stop and go. Okay. And like that was a huge issue. And then also just the, there wasn't much to the game in terms of the, the worlds that

you'd go to. And I feel like they didn't fulfill the promise of it's Disneyland's, Forgotten memories. It's like, yeah, sure, there was Oswald the Rabbit and like he was the bad guy. Fine. But like, I was expecting a lot more Disneyland. Okay. Into it.

Whereas that was kind of just more the backdrop. Were you blown away? They did a sequel? I was. I was like, I couldn't believe that they did a sequel and especially on the other consoles as well. They put it out and it was like, all right, cool. Like it never was for me. And then I remember, I don't remember much about it because I never played it.

But I remember reading reviews me like definitely not for me. And every Disney fan I know being like, I was a miss. And I was like, oh, well, there's something you'll never say. Oh, they're making a sequel. Yeah. Here's Epic Mickey too. Well, I think a lot of people were, because even you're saying that you're talking about Disney fans that are in the media.

Sure. No, not the kids, not the, you know, people just at home that like the James Burks of the world that are like Epic Mickey. I'm like, Epic Mickey. I'm not going to fuck up. I'm in. Um, and they all enjoyed it enough, whatever. But the problem was, just people weren't buying games on the Wii.

It's like even though the Wii was such a attach rate sucked for a attach rate sucked. So that messed everything up. And I think that. Warren Specter and then we're like fuck we have one more shot we got something we we have something here like if we maybe if we put it on PS3 and 360 it'll it'll sell more it didn't and did it use move on PS3 is that correct I don't I never played to I don't remember but yeah the motion controls are a big thing on Epic Mickey one but man that was so sad one of my biggest big gaming

disappointments in history it's up there with double my cry too oh no me here you go Greg nine years ago November 27 2008 Patapon 2 came out on PSP in Japan. Okay, I'll take it. I'm okay. Patapon 2, where's that fall on your pat upon

ranking? It's a complicated question. The problem with pat upon 2 is that it required so much grinding and it took a long time, which was great for a portable game and it was awesome.

What I like, it's similar to a situation of when I talk about uncharted 4 being the best uncharted 4 because it's just cheat, right, of like so much payoff for it. Every pat upon, well, two and three,

learned from the pat upon before them. So by the time you get to three, three was awesome because it was a portable game where you could grind, but you had one here to worry about and you could then team up and do this like multiplayer shit. That was really awesome. Padapon two in terms of what core Patapon is, which is based on Patupon 1. This Pat upon two was probably the better one. Padapon three took it in a different direction and really changed the gameplay of it a bit. Whereas Patupon two was Patapon, the original Patapon is a super confusing game if you, or at least when I was playing originally of like, who am I going to get? Like, how am I going to get a rare upon? What are you going to

do like you there was a lot of experimentation whereas pat upon two like actually spelled out for you if you want this this is what you need to do and like kind of had a built in not wiki but like instructions that didn't exist in pat upon one but then pat upon three made it so different when you had your hero and you had your multiplayer and you do these different things I wonder if we'll get this I you know they put out loco roco remastered they put out pat upon remastered then they announced loco roco two remastered they haven't said anything about pat upon maybe it's a PSX announcement see we'll see if what any of that's going to work 13 years ago on November 30th, 2004, Prince of Persia, the Warrior Within came out on Game

YouTube PC and PS2. And then 12 years ago on December 1st, 2005, Prince of Persia, the two thrones came out on PC and PS2. So these were the second and third in the Sands of Time trilogy. One of my favorite gaming trilogies of all time. And I know a lot of people are like, oh, Sands a time is the only good one. That's not true. What is true is the Warrior Within took it in a very dark.

That's like the heavy metal one. new metal bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all of a sudden he's this angry character. And it's like, I feel when you take away the marketing of the game and the soundtrack and that type of stuff that was very grim, dark and unnecessary, it did a good job of maintaining the gameplay elements that made Sons and Times special. And I feel like it was an even tighter experience from a playing perspective.

The story of one, I think is better than the story of two. But I think that the dark stuff came from a good place, which was narrative driven. It was death is fine. following him because he cheated death from Sands of Time. Yeah. By, you know, going back in time and all that shit. I'm like, that's a cool concept for this. And so then death was like chasing you throughout the levels.

And those were some really fun set pieces for a time when we didn't really get things like that. Like, I feel like the big major over the top set piece moments was kind of invented in the PS3, 360 generation. Because, like, you think of call of duty. You think of uncharted. See, I think it got a war. And that's the PlayStation 2 game. That's true. That's true.

But I feel like God of War might have been the first kind of introductory thing to it. And whereas I feel like PS3 and 360 that show was expected. Yeah. So that's why Warrior Within it had those moments when you were running away from the, from death. And I was like, this is really cool. But yeah, a lot of the things that were good about the first one, they just took out like Farrah. The character just wasn't in it. See, that's what I remember.

Like being a huge Prince of Persia original fan or PlayStation 2 original fan. I remember buying the second one. And I remember not loving it, but I don't remember anything beyond the fact she wasn't in the game. And that's all. She was so great. She was all my favorite characters. And then it also introduced dual wielding, which made the action in combat way better, way more fun, way more rewarding. Because the first one was a little bit too button mashy.

But yeah, I think Warrior Within gets shit on way too much. And then the next year, it was like annualized at that point. Warrior Within or Two Thrones came out. And that is when I was like, oh, this is a really shit direction story wise. Yeah. And there's an interesting story there where at E3, um, the before it came out, they put the, the trailer out for it. And the trailer looked super interesting where it was kind of answering the questions

of what happened to Farah after one, but also continuing after, uh, Warrior Within, there was the other girl, I forgot her name that they introduced in, in that one. Um, and how death related to all of them and where that was going. It was really dark. And like the prince came back to the king. and he was seen as this like horrible person for all the things that he's on the people that died because of whatever and he was like chained up and it was dark in a way that was like wow this is dark matching the story and this sounds like a super cool interesting thing and then the game didn't have any of it it was like a table five guardians oh really where there's like the whole poncho thing didn't happen but it was like that whole story and i still have the e-through trailer on my computer and you could probably find it on youtube yeah it looked awesome and then that's not what we got we got something that was way more light-homher thing that was way more light-harmes I think it was because they were like, hey, people don't like this dark stuff. Go back to Sands of Time.

Go back to Sands of Time. So it was kind of like a Justice League situation where, actually, it's exactly a Justice League situation where it everyone's like, oh, this is too dark. This is too dark. So they got people to come in and make it lighter, but then the end product is kind of caught in the middle somewhere and you don't get a defined vision. And it's sad that that's where the franchise went out. But Farrow was back and that was awesome.

Well, there was another one after that. The franchise came back. You know, it's funny. Your Nolan North version. Well, they brought that back, and that was like a reboot in 2008. But then when the movie came out... They put out another one that was still in the Sands of Times Universe. Yeah, the movie came out and it wasn't good.

But they did make a Prince of Persia forgotten kingdom or something like that. Forgotten Saints? Forgotten Sands? I thought that sounds right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It must be that. Forgotten Sands that was in this universe, and it wasn't that bad. It was a little short.

But I was like, oh, man, it just was kind of lost in the shuffle because of Assassin's Creed and all that stuff. But move is an epic Mickey too. Now I'll get to this Prince of Persia. Make sure I got that. Because there's no, you're wrong here. God, I want a Prince of Persia.

Forgotten Sands, yeah. So bad. It seems like something that's due, right? That seems like something to, you want, but it is,

I guess, the concern would be, there's still been so much assassins. Like, how do you differentiate exactly? Don't know. The power, I think alone does it.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. I don't know. I want it, though. Very bad. And then this is a very interesting one.

Here comes an interesting one. Usually when I put these on there, it's because one of us has something to say about it. Sure. This is one that I was just like, what the fuck is this? 15 years ago on November 29th, 2002, do you like horny bunnies? Question mark two. Came out on PC. Of course it's on PC.

In Japan. Of course it's in Japan. I'm going to read a little bit about this game. Please tell me about do you like horny bunnies too? The game is a multi-scenario interactive erogi. E-R-O-G-E. Although there was about five or ten minutes of clicking through dialogue before it becomes interactive. Okay.

The main character is 18-year-old Yukari Fujusawa, a feminine-looking Japanese boy who has never had sex with a girl. He starts working as a waiter in a membership restaurant named Platinum, where all the girls who work there wear Playboy bunny suits. Soon, he finds out that the other waitresses, including his own cousin, Sia Ishigami, have very unusual sexual tendencies. The game features original voice, Japanese voices, along with English translation, and is 100% uncensored. A sequel title, Do You Like Hony Bunchies 2, which is the one that came out this week in gaming history, which is set in another branch of platinum with cameos from the original's character was also released in February 2004. In this Bushi-Jo game from Japan, Yukari Fujisawa is a boy who works at a platinum restaurant, an exclusive Italian eatery. He was employed for a strange and embarrassing reason.

He was mistaken as a girl. This misunderstanding has been shown to follow him for all of his life. The girls are good at sensing secrets, but they will either ruin his job. It's seem to make sense. However, this discovery can still make his and their job and lives much easier and more fun, exciting, interesting, and especially enjoyable. Sexually. Oh, sexually, okay. What the fuck?

I'm looking here. Not that any of this doesn't make sense, but it's just like, wow, this is such a... I would never call a game, do you like horny bunnies? Wow, no, they are... It is definitely super uncensored. It is definitely super uncensored. Yeah, hold on. I pulled it back a second.

It's on YouTube so they use it. It looked like Rambo's there to cover it. I can't escape or shake her off. I just accept her. Click. Click faster. Click fast out. Here we go.

There's where it's going to get graphic. There you go. Slurp, slurp. Oh, sweet Jesus. Yeah. Okay. Well, you guys can check it out for yourself. I recommend YouTubeing.

Do you like horny bunnies? Two. I just did the original because I wanted the straight shit. You know what I mean? 16 years ago, November 26th, 2001, Twisted Metal Small Brawl came out on PS1. And I was very sad about this. They knocked it out of the park with Twist's Metal Black.

And I was like, this is the best Twist of Metal ever happened. And that was a big Twist Metal guy. Sure. Loved it. Who wasn't? Twisted Metal One, interesting.

Cool idea. Not really solid gameplay. Live action cutscenes. Fun. Right? Twist Metal 2? solid gameplay they brought it they knew what they were doing created a fucking really cool destructible environments all that stuff iconic then it kind of went that weird thing

where they made twist metal three and four there were trash and even more trash sure because it wasn't incognito that was made by 343 studios then they never make another good game in con three four three yeah i don't think they ever did incognito made siphon filter I said it then incognito made twist and metal black on PS2 and that was great, super dark, cutscenes were amazing and whatever. But then the feedback goes, oh, it's too dark,

what about the kids? So they made small brawl, which was like, oh, it's all these guys when they were small playing on remote control guys instead of real cars. And I was like, I was actually kind of about that. I'm like,

this sounds like a cool idea. It's a little bit different. But yeah, the gameplay just didn't stack up and they really fucking, they phoned it in. It was sad. And there's never been a good twist of metal game.

Wait, what about, what? Twist the metal on PS3. It was trash. It wasn't trash. It was trash. any, it had nothing to the people that like Twisted Metal being part of it, man.

Three playable characters that can play as any of the cars that's not what Twist Metal's about. Hey, I'm with you, I'm not saying that. And guess what those three characters were? Guess Greg? No, it was Sweet Tooth. Sweet tooth, that makes sense.

Yeah, it was dollface. Dollface, okay, she was only in black, but you know what? She was a cool character, sure. Was it to... Preacher. They're like, y'all, let's make fucking Preacher, one of the main characters.

Get the hell out of here. Get out of here. Man. 16 years ago on December 2nd, 2001. To be clear again, it was 989 studios. Not 343. 343 made Halo, which is why I was, I was laying it out. They never made a good game.

And you didn't bite. And then I was like, wait, did I fuck this out? Oh, that's so funny. Yeah, 989. Yeah. Wow. Wow, that was a fuck up. It happens.

Well, it's just a bunch of numbers. Now, do you know why they were called 989? No, I don't. I know why they're called 343. That was their address. Yeah, down it in Foster City. Sony used to be split in two buildings before they moved to their big campus now. And there was 989 and there was,

I guess it was 987 or whatever. But they, I remember when I went down there for like when I first, whatever demos of whatever, we went to like the whole foods in the parking lot for food. And it was like, oh, that's 989 over there. And that's why 989 studios was 989 studios.

That's cool. And then 16 years ago, December 2nd, 2001, Pickman 1 came out in GameCube. starting a revolution. Pickman. I'm not a Pikaman guy. Yeah, no, me neither.

It's one of those Nintendo franchises that don't speak to me. Sure. I got my Nintendo fanboy card revoked all the time. Oh my gosh, wow. It's harsh for you.

I just don't, I never... Don't get it. Yeah. It's the type of real-time strategy that I just like, it just doesn't click to me. When people on Wii,

you were getting into it, I was just like, I can't, I don't know, man. 3. Yeah. People love a Pikmin. More power to you. I'm not trying to stop you from loving anything.

Except PC games. All right. Just joking. Calm down. And now it is time for audience questions. You can go to kind of funny.com slash gamescast. Just like so many of these beautiful people did to talk to us and ask us questions. We'll answer them.

A lot of these questions are about the game awards. Last week, we did a lot of our predictions and all that stuff. The game awards are happening this Thursday, this upcoming Thursday on the internet. They're going to be everywhere. Are you doing our live stream? We are doing a live stream reaction to it. and hopefully Andrea Reney wins and it's gonna be fantastic.

I'll be there drunk off my ass. It's gonna be awesome. We're sending Greg there to network. Start shit. Smoosh. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of winking going on with it.

Network. I'm gonna be coming out on stage. Be like, I don't remember when I put this this is the words show on the map. I'd be fine. Yeah. Let's see.

Bongo's for Kev. Hey! Says, why wasn't steep nominated? No, really. This is serious. All the sports games nominees seem predetermined years out.

I.e. It's always FIFA, Madden, and the newest racing game. This seems to be the only category where no matter how hard a dev works, they won't get recognized. That's a great point.

What I would say as to why is I just don't think a lot of people played steep. And I think that's because a lot of people, and this is a broad brush on painting with, a lot of people don't play sports games in the industry. And I think that that would be the biggest thing, right? Of like, I think that we might have, I don't have it in front of me. Did we abstain from that category?

We might have. No, we did. Did we? Yeah. We abstained or we voted? We did not. Oh, okay, yeah. Because it's one of those like,

sure, I played Madden. I loved Longshot. I didn't play FIFA. I didn't play UFC. I didn't play whatever, the other ones that are up there. We don't like racing games. And it's this interesting thing where we're not alone in that. I don't, and I'm not going to speak for other outlets, but I remember being at IGN every year, that was always the thing too, right?

When we'd sit down to do a top 25 PlayStation games list, you know, colonized to argue about this all the time before and after. But I remember in the old days when it was just the PlayStation team, and it was me, Donham Roper, and whoever the hell else is on at the time, Clements. it would be that thing if somebody would come in. Like, oh, you got to put a baseball game on there. You got to put a sports game on there. And we don't play those.

We really don't feel like that's our place to go and do that. And then jump ahead of when Colin and I would do those lists. It was like, we're not putting those on there because we don't have anything to say about those. And that's not something. And I'm not obviously tons of, Orion McAfree plays more show than anybody I know. It's just a thing where who the hell knows. Like in Steep didn't really blow people's hair back. It was more of a thing of like, hey, let's look at how pretty it is.

So interesting for Steve, I was wondering. I didn't know what the reviews it got. It reviewed well. It reviewed pretty damn well. 7.9 in IGN, 7.5 on GameSpot, 71 on Metacritic. Yeah. Who reviewed it for IGN? Let me see.

Loading that motherfucker. Loaded it up. Loaded out. Some freelancer. Exactly. This is the problem with sports games. When we were at IGN or anywhere, they get freelanced out. You're the expert out there who reviews every Madden game.

You're the person who does this thing. We freelance it out to you. You put it there. and what that means is that when we go to the voting box, we being whatever outlet I'm hypothetically working at right now, there's no one there to champion it. And if there's no one there to champion it, it's just a list that gets blown by.

And it's not fair. And that sucks. And there's no real way to fix it unless people, games, this is where it gets all weird. There's no scientific for anything. There's no scientific method for reviewing, critiquing, or talking about games. And so it's been interesting on our own subreddit

where it is like, man, I just wish anything. of these guys would play persona and get it into the game of the year conversation. I wish somebody would play in the year and get into this. I've played persona right and I don't think it's in this conversation and there's only seven of us. So it's not like that's a sampling that applies to everybody and that's why you go to different places and different outlets for different reasons. And if there's a website or a YouTube, this is what I was tell you kids, right, when you talk about wanting to do this, there's a website or a thing that is like, we fucking love sports games and that's all we play. I would say they're sports games. I would say they're sports games.

of the year trophy means more than game X or outlet X's game of year trophy if they're trying to be everything it's a real point no solid point oh caught you off guard with that one huh fucking lay the truth on you and you weren't ready for another one I was not ready for that you're good you're going back in the paint dunked on you chuck dunked on you Chuck Sips says Chuck Sips is this the highest quality game of the year vote so many amazing games not able to make the cut I think so I do too I mean I mean my game stop video early in the part of the year, right? Was that 2017 is the best year for games?

And I know that there's arguments. Oh, what about Metal Gear? What about the year of Metal Gear and Zelda? And I'm like, totally get that. This year's better. And I don't mean, I think you can point to other years and say, look at these five amazing games that were there that literally changed the industry or like defined a genre.

And I mean, yep, you're true. My argument here is look at the 10 game of the year candidates we have, let alone the other dozen or more that are like amazing. super solid 8.5 games that aren't game of the year, but like are a fucking hill to die on how much you love that game. It's interesting. I'd like to do a real breakdown looking into the years. People always talk about

98, 2007, and now, 2017, as the big ones. So I'd want to do a breakdown to actually look at that to see if that's true. There might have been a lot of 8.5s those years as well. Yeah, but nobody can trust those scores. I think you're right. Craig Harris out there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But whatever. Maybe not the scores, but in terms of like, Where they actually lie. But I think that this year, off top my head, I'd say it's an easy answer to say that, yeah, in terms of what games are up there

in the game of the year conversation? Like this is, there's the most ever. I just mean, week after week there have been at least two amazing games. It feels like coming out that are just like,

holy shit, you need to play this. Even the dokey dokey thing today, right? Of like, what a crazy, awesome, amazing.

It's free. It's on Steam. You didn't know what's coming. It's here. Great. I don't have time to play it. And that's the shitty thing of like, now just tell me about it.

Andy's like, you're gonna beat Call of Duty. I really enjoyed what I played at College of Duty. Nope. I'm not gonna get back to Call of Duty. There's a million other things coming. Or out, I guess now,

but player unknown. And then Destiny 2. Or, Chris of Rosarius, what I'm doing? Ashford Alex. Should I play Zeno Blade? I don't know.

Ashford Alex says, how much stock do you actually put in a fan vote like this? Do companies at the end of the day really care if they win something from the show? How prestigious is it? Fan vote for, Oh, Game of the War, game of the game awards? Yeah.

Well, what is it? Game Awards are only for specific things, right? At the end, it's like trending gamer and e-sports play some of the year, blah, blah, blah, blah. For the fan stuff. But overall, like, if you were to, if there's a fan vote for Game of the Year, best action game in the year, fucking companies love that shit. What, you, they put them on the box. Think about, like, go walk through Walmart, you know, whatever, or wherever you're getting

your games, and look at the number of boxes that just have the E3 awards on there now, like nominated for 50E3 awards. You can get a game of the year. You can get whatever. you put it on there because it's one of those if you put the IGN badge on there as best action game of the year, even if it says fan vote, like, doesn't matter.

On IGN, it was published that year of this. All of this is, I say on the cake, an easy way to slap something all in the box to get your, how many accolades you have to get a new press release out there. It does matter. And not to mention that it matters to the development people, right?

Like, it's a huge deal to get an award. I talk about it, you know, in my limited capacity, but in 2015, winning game awards and then South by Southwest in 2016, but same idea. Like that was incredible. Like those are honors I never would expect for what we do. And it was awesome to have what we do for our audience, which is our, you know, small and the way we want it to be tight knit. But to see the industry as a whole recognize that to have, you know, a game up there to get it recognized to have, even if it is fan voted, it doesn't matter.

Getting recognized for what you do. That's, if you want some advice from good old Greg Miller. The one thing I've learned in all my years is that every human being, and this isn't because of narcissism, every human being seeks recognition. And I mean it for the work you do and the thing you do from when you see someone on the street, you just pass before me like, hey, just to be like, oh man, I got, like not that I got recognized like a superstar, I am memorable enough to be there, to let alone to get up on a stage to have a fan vote on IGN and be their game spot, whoever you want to be.

It totally matters these people because, again, if you have. haven't caught on to every time we talk about the layoffs and crunch and the three years you're working on a game before you can talk about it. All game developers want to do is make something awesome and share it with the world. And so to have the world speak back to them in any way and say, hey, this was awesome. That's what they want. Yeah. And you walk into any game studio at all. And like they have their beautiful little trophy case. And they care about that stuff. That's stuff that they upkeep and they put all the new things in and make sure it looks nice. And it means something. to them. That's something that they want to showcase in their office. It's definitely something I think

I personally took for granted when we started kind of funny. Like we did those first E3 awards and they were our faces and it was stupid and funny for us. But it was cool to put them up on the wall. But the amount of times now somebody goes to visit a game studio and they send back a photo of our face because it's still in the wall. Like that's still a huge deal to somebody that kind of funny at the time, five guys over on the game spot second stage. We're like, this is a great game. You know what I mean? They're like, fuck yeah. They liked it. Oh, that's funny. Um, let's see. Zanthi says, what new game reveals do you think will be at the show?

Oh, then a couple follow-up questions here that I want to lump into one thing. Uh, PS4 Germany says, will Rocksteady be there? Time for another character in Death Stranding. Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Tyler Creed says, will we get information on cyberpunk 27? Cyber. So can I see it real quick? Because that was a lot.

Yeah, I want to make sure I got it all. Where is it? That's a whole bunch of them. I just jumped around. Okay. Sorry, well, then I'm just going to, I don't even look at it. Let's start with Kojima. No.

Nothing from Kojima. I don't think he'll be, he's there. I think they confirmed today. I think Jeff tweeted something about him being there to accept some award and maybe. Is he, I thought so too, but maybe that maybe. So is that what it was? He was just like, here he is. Here's a look back at him doing this thing.

Yeah, I must have run. Okay. That's when they brought out. I mean, I bet Kojima will be there. Well, actually, you know what? I don't think you will be. Correct me if I'm wrong. PlayStation PSX panels are up and there's not one for,

death stranding, right? There's no Kajima thing. That, right? I don't know. Correct me if one. Can't help me on the one? Okay. Then I'm saying no. He's not gonna. Here we hold. Game warrants. Do this. Only one week. Oh yeah, it was a memorable moment. I thought it was saying, confirm he would be there.

Yeah, okay. So, no, I don't think you'll get any more death stranding information there. I would, I would think Kajima would be there because he's friends with Jeff. But that is a long trip to not really do anything unless he's taking meetings at PSX. but there's no panel for MAPSX. It's different. I feel like it's a game awards tradition. Is it? Yeah.

I mean, like, yeah, but I think. Jima and Jeff, they're bros. That's fine. You can be there and do some, but I mean, like, I think it's also, now it's a PlayStation thing. And I think PlayStation understands how thin they are spread right. And not, let's not overshadow everybody.

Let's not put everything out there. Let's not, I don't think there'll be any new, I don't think there will be a new character for Destranding revealed the game wars. I feel that last year, when we had our predictions going to the game awards, all of this sort of. There's no chance.

Death Strandings there. No chance. Yeah. And then it opened with a six minute death stranding video. Yeah. Can you do that again? I get it. It gets a little egregious.

But it's Kajima. They're bros. Yeah, I agree. They're fucking bros. I'm going to say, yeah. Will there be a new character? That's a little bit more iffy. We'll be Emma Stone.

That's a little more ify as well. But you know what? Never never let that rumor go. Just for the fun. LeCroy get hype moment. You're going to hear first. Okay. Emma Stone.

Oh, wow. I still, I mean, I know that was like a disproven rumor or whatever. probably happening. Yeah, me too. Will Rock City be there? I don't think so. No, I think that game's too big to do here.

No offense to the game awards. I think that's like, I think this is perfect for a Rock City game. Yeah? Yeah. Game Awards has had some huge heavy hitters. And I think that especially, especially now,

Andrew Brin brought up some good points a couple weeks ago, talking about how to the developers and to the publishers and to the marketing people, it's not as big of a deal as it used to be because it used to be on Spike TV. Yeah. Whereas now it's on the internet. internet. I think that's true for the last couple of years, but I think with where we're at now, everybody understands it. And everybody understands that the game awards is a place where

reveals are made. And there's a lot of like hubbub going around. Sure. And the question for me is, is Rock City's game close enough to be talked about that way? I just feel like if I'm WB, I still am assuming Rock City is working on some variation of a Batman game. That's been the rumor, right? So we're going to put out a new Batman game from From Rocksteady. If we're going to do that, the first marketing push needs to be a juggernaut, which would probably be the Game Informer cover timed with the trailer dropping and everybody having a first look preview.

WB, don't remember wrong, I'm not knocking them, are still very traditional in the way they do games press coverage. And I feel like that's how you do it. Because beyond anything else that's happening there, it's the fact that Batman is the most Googled YouTube or superhero. He is still Batman. And the Rocksteady Batman games spoke to an audience larger than just what we are, video games industry, right? That brought in all sorts of people. People knew the Arkham series. So I feel like you'd go really, really, really big mainstream on top of it. And as much as I love the Game Awards, game wars would be great. If Rock City is working

on a TMNT game, I think yeah, totally debuted here and do that. If you're starting a groundswell movement. You know, naughty dog is making the last of us. Sure, show the trailer of Game Awards. Everyone knows. As soon as that naughty dog splash happens, everybody's going to like, what the fuck. Yeah, we know them. Whereas that doesn't necessarily grab a headlines elsewhere. So I've been talking 277. Not a fucking chance in hell. Yeah, I don't know. That game is still so far out. Yeah. So thinking about game awards. I want to flip it real quick and put it on you. Today, an interesting question was submitted to kind of funny games daily being Nintendo's giving away a bunch of seats. They're making a big deal about game awards.

Do you think this is where they do a trailer in a release date for Champions Ballet finally? Yeah, check this out. What I was about to say is Game Awards over the last couple of years. If you really take bits and pieces, and this might not be true every single year. But I think trends that I've seen that I would be like, you can make some fair bets based on this is Kojima and Jeff are boys. So there's going to be something Kojima related, whether that's a new trailer for a dress stranding or metal gear or this or that or whatever the fuck. I'm talking about. Yeah, of course.

You're talking through the years. Or just like giving him the years. Or just like giving him the award and like making a big deal out of that. There's a Kojima moment. So there'll be something like that. There is a lot of telltale announcements. That's where we got guardians. That's where we got Batman.

Like there's a lot of things like that. Maybe we'll get some. That's where we got a Game of Thrones. Telltale. This is the smartest thing you said. Yeah. You'll probably get it. Isn't I think the final season of Walking Dead is supposed to start soon, right?

Like you'll probably get the first trailer for that. So yeah, we're going to get some tell telltel stuff. I imagine multiple telltell stuff. Do you think Wolf to? previous years have shown us anything. Like they do go back to that throughout the show. In addition to that, we get a Nintendo moment, whether it's the, the second big trailer for Breath of the Wild after the first one we got at E3.

There was a more story-based one. That's where we got that. They had the Donkey Kong stuff years ago. They had like, there's been quote-unquote big Nintendo announcements made of the game awards. I think now with the switch, there has to be something. And I think that since we haven't heard Champions Ballad shit, yeah. first week of December knowing it's coming out in December yeah we're probably

gonna get a trailer there with the announcement I'm hoping for more though I'm hoping for more from Nintendo I'm hoping for some new reveal of a game or something like that at Game Awards is also known for usually not all the time but usually having a oh shit moment just one of them yeah so if we get rock steady we're not getting any of these other things like and I feel like at this point even the death surrounding would be an oh shit thing just because like oh shit they're doing it again. Um, so I wouldn't get too hyped about the game awards, even though it has 13 announcements or

whatever. Yeah, the most announcements. It's going to be a, DLC. It's going to be a season two of this, whatever the fuck. It's going to be a patch, patch notes and stuff like that. Like that is what game awards is like announcing the, like, who's new cars in Rocket League? Like that type of thing. Sure.

Um, which isn't bad, right? That's what you want to talk about to your, this audience. And then just kind of updates on things. Looking forward. I wrote down a couple dates. Uh, we got Far Cry 5 coming February. 27th. We got Nino Cooney 2 coming up. Dragon Ball Fighters.

Far Cry 5, that's another slam dunk. You'll probably get another look like that. That's what I'm saying. These are the things that you should expect. The crew 2, March 16th. Metal Gear Survive. I don't think that'll be there actually. Definitively will not be there. Yeah, CF Thieves. There's a lot of games that I think they were just getting

kind of updates on. So, yeah. I'm still trying to knock down. Well, it is finally going to go. No, they said 2018. this year. I want one more good one. The Teltan one is interesting.

Yeah, you probably get clum there. Hey guys. Greg here. Thanks for watching the show. Patreon.com slash kind of funny games. Cool, Greg. Can I have some more water? Final question.

Peppolo 14 says, I love the game awards. And last year got 65% more live viewership than in 2015. But do you see a near future where people don't care like what's happening with Emmy, Grammys, and Oscars? Or is apples and oranges? I think it's apples and oranges in a lot of ways where we've talked about this many times where the game awards is just as much a reveal show as it is an award show. Yeah.

I think the award show is just kind of the Trojan horse to make a big production and make a mini E3 style thing because that's what gets the viewers and the 65% more live viewers excited. As opposed to the Grammys and Oscars where you're not the Super Bowl is for movie debuts. Trailers. Trailers and cartoons. Yeah, not, like, you're not getting new movie premiere trailers during the Oscars, right? Mm-hmm. And Grammy's music, so that's different as well. But I also don't think that any of these things are things people don't care about. You might not care about them.

But I feel like they just aren't making that switch over to the internet fast enough, whereas Jeff was smart to fucking turn video game awards into an internet-driven thing that's live. everywhere because that's the point is getting the most people to see it. It's also the thing that our industry and our hobby, our community goes hand in hand with the internet and goes hand in hand with knowing these people on a different level. We're still, you know, that point where, oh, like, what do you like? Oh, I like video games. I like to play games. I'm a gamer, right? And we always talk about how that's a weird thing to say, but what the walls, it's, you can like music and you can like movies and not give a shit about like, oh, I really want to see Steven Spielberg honored

for this thing. All right. Oh, man, the, what do you have? Haroldson's performance was so great. He deserves that. A lot of people enjoy those things, but don't care about it to this level. Whereas I feel like for us, it is, we're still an industry that is young and we are an industry that is insular. If you're like the super fan of video games, where you want to go see you, what, what does everybody else think is the best thing? Because I've been debating and I go to this site and they're talking about that, but these YouTubers say that. What is the game awards, which is the ultimate award show we have in the industry? Yeah. And I think that it's really, you've got to ask, what is the point?

of each of these things. And I think that, like I was saying earlier, the game awards, the point is announcing games, revealing games, and a lot of people get upset when it's, oh, it should be more about the awards. And we should award people or whatever. And the internet gets upset as it's happening. But then, in addition to that, they also get upset at the,

like, why is their rap performances? And why is this, why is they that? And I've been seeing a lot of Jeff tweeting and talking about what's going to be at this game awards. And I feel like they've done a good job of at least having the flip of that where they have the rap stuff. They're like, why the fuck is this happening?

But then they also have a Zelda medley. They also have something like that. And I feel like this year they're really going to knock it out of the park from everything I've heard. Yeah. Supposedly there's like a tribute to video game music that's awesome. Cool. So I'm excited for that. But I love the Game Wars, man.

Me too. But when you compare it to something like the Oscars, where the only musical performers are the five people nominated for song of the year in movie soundtracks. Yeah. And it's like, that's focused. That makes sense. You know, it's like all those have. purpose. Whereas here it's just it is more about flashy fun and also to give the people watching some celebrity credibility because games don't have that kind of

synonymous kind of understanding with the mainstream media right where people aren't going to be like oh the video game awards mean something like a video game awards the fuck is that yeah so get high video game awards Thursday Andrew Renee vote for her go to Google trending gamer vote click on Andrea Renee's face it's easy very easy Greg yeah it's been a good show it's been a great show about this well yeah well remember earlier when I was like I don't know if we played enough and we went on for like 45 minutes about what we played that's what happens video games are cool video games are cool Kevin is no love you bye yeah you've been flicking me off all day I'm gonna call you out on I gotta call you on sometimes kev you're still doing it they don't see it so they think I'm just being mean to

you but you're still throwing them up don't know solid points