Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Ranking Consoles (By Looks) - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

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What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Wednesday, July 17, 2024. Of course, I am your host, Tim Geddes. I'm joined by the Big Daddy himself, Greg Miller. Hello. The lock, Roger Pekorni, and the Nitro Rifle, Andy Cortez. My PC at home, number one on the list. Rank S. Yeah, you think so?

Rank S, yeah. For smelly. Oh, stinky, Andy. What PC do you have? Is it the NZXT? Yeah, I got that big chunk of NZXT. That thing is a hot. That thing is real hot.

That thing is wide, too. Yeah? Oh, man, it is so wide. I'm gonna tell you to. Love it. Tell them. Do you like that or not like it? It's wide.

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Today, we are ranking video game consoles by looks, everybody, by looks. Surface level takes on some of the consoles that have existed. Some of the grates, some of the pores. The pears. You know some of these consoles, Greg, they've been through it. We're going to talk about what we think they look like, some good, some bad, and everything in between. But there are some rules that I want to express very clearly to everyone listening right now. home or at this table.

All right. Controllers do not factor into the looks of the console. Also, this is based solely on physical design. We're not talking about the software. We're not talking about the features.

None of that shit. Ports, we might talk about ports. Oh, okay. I like that. I like that. But we're talking about how this thing looks. And that's it. And more than that,

no pure handhelds. So the Game Boys, get out of here. Switch, welcome on in. You know what I mean? Love it. Greg, I was already waiting to put the, like that blue Vita way the heck out there.

Like, Sony's just hardware is the best look and stuff, except for the most recent one, that's fine. Before we get too far away from it, well, first off, you already know. That's incorrect. Thanks to a little show called Game Showdown. Maybe it was kind of Feudy back then. I can't remember which one.

More importantly, I have an easy way to remember the number the rest of your life, all right? If you ever want to call, kind of funny, it's 5-7-3-20 flesh. 5-7-3. 20 flesh. 20 flush. 20 flush.

20 flesh. Thank you. Internet MarketingNinjas.com that translated the number. We could have been also 57320 elf pie. I like elf pie more. Yeah, well, I like flush.

Both are bad options. Wait, I don't understand. What? How is it that? So, in the olden days, when you had a phone, the buttons had little letters underneath each number.

So you could tell somebody your number was, you know, whatever. So I took the number we have. Okay, I thought you were changing our number to be kind of funny. No, no, no, no, got it, got it, got it. Because I was like, wait, wouldn't it be funny? God! And or Satan chose 5, 7, 3, 20 flesh.

20 flesh, everybody. That makes sense. You didn't do enough Catholic school, all right? A lot of conversations about Jesus' flesh, and I ate it. Yeah, I ate it up weekly. I used to steal it from church and he did it. Oh, my God. I think it's important.

And that was like unconsecrated flesh, though. Waifers. Wafers are so good, man. No. Why wouldn't you baptize your baby? He could turn it to this. Let's get to ranking these consoles, everybody. Of course, we're turning to tiermaker.com as we are going to...

We are giving us so many great dot-com shoutouts today. Tiermaker.com to check out all the different consoles here. We might need to add a couple if we would like. like throughout it, but remember, we're not doing handhelds here. Barrett, can you scroll down for a second? Here we have a list. Jesus Christ. A list of of all the consoles. A lot of handhelds, too.

We're not doing handhelds. We already know all the PlayStation ones would go top. We're going to start at the very beginning here. Because we might not have all played all of these consoles. But we sure as hell can judge this shit out of how they work. This is one of the things we lost as a society. We all

became empathetic. And Me and Andy can't go around and just judge Roger by his looks anymore. You know what I mean? So I'm happy to have some in habit objects that I can go. Yeah. Oh my God. Woken is ruined. Back of the day.

Oh my gosh. So as we go through this. Game Skip, we would have torn you a new one. Look at this lanky man. Oh, God. We're going to put them into the tiers, whether it's S tier, A tier,

B, C, D, or F. Got it. All right. And in those tiers, we're going to have to rank them. We're going to have to make sure things are ordered correctly. So whatever is on the left, that's number one. I like that's number one. I like playing Nelson Ring recently with Mike, and he was like,

yeah, but like the whole S-tier thing in some games, I was like, Mike, don't act like S-tier or something that was made last year that we all just jumped on board of. It's been around forever. Don't act. I'm not sure about that. I mean, when did S-tier come about? It was around the first time I heard it was like NVC or some shit like that.

Maybe Devil May Cry or some shit. shit. For me, I remember distinctly. And Sonic the head truck. Yeah, but it's like, it was, but I think that it's also like when you realize it's a thing, if that makes sense, where for me it was crazy taxi. Crazy taxi for me too. We were all playing crazy taxi.

And I remember when like, oh, man, Adam can get an A rank. Can anybody do better? And then we got an S rank. What the fuck is this? What is the origin of S rank? A ranking originating from academic grading in Japan used to describe a level superlative to grade such as A and BAT. B, etc.

Maybe using real fictional tournaments or ranking lists such as martial arts, fights, in fiction, video games, or tier lists. I love that. I love that. You know, we talk so much about the S, but we don't talk enough about the E.

Well, the E, there's no E. No, it's just, I mean, grade school decided to remove it. I don't get why. That's fucked up. How are you going to teach these kids the alphabet and then just fuck it up immediately? N-completed.

Because F. F.M. You know what I mean? Yeah. D. D.E. doesn't mean anything. Dirty dick Dirty dick Dirty dick Dirty dick

That's a deep D plus DG dummy Let's get the fuck into this Everybody The Atari The Pong Atari The original Pong Atari

See now this is weird This has controllers in it Are we just pretend The controllers don't exist Or this is just all in one No because this is What the console is I think it's different

Because like literally As far as I know It only plays Pong Yes It looks like a cool little Like Apple I Home Boombox You know I get you'd win in like a white elephant

Yeah King and Christmas. This one's not singing to me. I'll tell you that. I don't think that it's like the worst thing ever, but it's definitely not high. I motion for a D here. I don't want to interact with this.

The reason I will give it a C is because the one after that, which is the Telstar whatever, Pong version of that. That looks even worse. Like that looks like a worse version of this. So I'm like, where do we go? Are you sure there? because I look at this little telstar Colertron.

The Calico. And I'm like, that I at least can understand how it feels. You know what I mean? It just, that also feels like the start of, hey, man, wood finish is the shit. Like, you're going to want all, you're going to want your station wagon to have wood finish designs on your door. I'm not too picky about this. I can put, I can put, I can put the Atari one in D and I can put the Klico one in D. I think they both go D.

Okay. I would say the Atari one goes D and the Klico I would put to C. Wow, I think the Klikum looks worse. It looks cheaper. It's got style to it at least. It's got fucking style to it least. Yeah, but it looks like one of the toys that I would get for McDonald's that would just like, I'd play with Conruchin. You were born in 2005.

I'll bring up like a bigger picture. Yeah, I'm going to Google it in my end. Because like, I think the concept of the Telstar is like cooler. But yeah, I think I agree with Rodgers. It looks cheap. I mean, I like that the first one looks like the Transformer Soundwave. Sure, of course. But don't, you can't bring that in there.

You can't bring in your first one by. looks. You can't bring in your opinion. Roger had a much better image pulled up over here. And I was on knock on you, Bear, for the record. I was just saying, like... But that's what it looks like.

It looks like you download that image on that console, right? But that's what it looked like back then. There you know? The concept is there. The Brady Bunch planet. Print, plastic, like, tape on thing. Yeah, like stickers.

This thing would have been... That's not wood finish. The shit, if it used all of the colors on the bottom left. Use the red, yellow, and orange war. Man, it would have been the coolest. So look, this thing's ugly.

I think we can all agree. But I think that there's something to the form of function of this thing compared to the other one. Because I feel like it being like a Pong type experience, right? You're 1V1, you're sitting there. You're turning that dial. It being centered, I think, goes a long way compared to this, the first one there. No personality, ugly, sides are too big.

It's minimalistic, but again, I will, I'm not too passionate about this. I will let this go to do it. Two dirty dicks right there. Too dirty decks, everybody. Two d-Ds, I'm telling you. But then now we need to decide what goes first and what goes second. Kaliko goes in front of Pong or I'll walk off this set. I already told you that was a C console right there in terms of this.

I mean, I agree with these. And mainly just because I don't like the offsetness of the Atari Pong. Fine. I'll let it be. Let it be. I don't think you can do it. Oh, you can do it. No mind.

Moving on then. The Magnavox Odyssey. Sick fucking name. S-tier just for that. That's a cool name. It's in the headline. It's a good name, though. Can we get a bigger one of this?

He only ever follows the rules. I think this is going to be a trend, by the way. Roger only ever follows the rules correctly, Greg. Yes, exactly. I do my homework. This does not look like a console. This looks like a medical device. It looks like a vacuum, a medical device.

Or you don't know how long this court is. You toss it in the pool and it eats all the algae and stuff on the bottom. It's one of those cool cleaners like that. I was going to say that this is how you knocked out Mike TV from the Willy Wonka movie. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this. I don't hate it. I love the way it looks. It looks like a place that you would like file things. And I think that's just because of these weird cartridges. And honestly, for the time, I like it because then you could be sneaking and your

parents are like, oh, are you playing whatever the fuck this thing is called? The Magnavox. It's like, no, this is just a filing cabinet. I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. A multitude of reasons. One, I thought it was white and black, which would have made it a lot cooler. The white and brown? We love wood. Paneling. I know. The late 70s, early 80s. This looks like something straight the hell out of the game where you're trying to fight that one lady of people who made that other game that Barrett loves.

They made the part two. Persona. Oh, you guys are so close right now, though. Think about it. Think about it for a little bit. Do you remember? Arcane. Oh, dishonored?

No. Deathloop? Deathloop. There we go. I figured it out. What I don't like about this is it looks over designed, and I feel like it's easily breakable. And I don't like looking at something

and thinking it's easily breakable when it's coming to technology. The cables don't look good, and the flimsy cartridges and the way that the cartridges or whatever the fuck these things are get into there, nah, bad design. And I'm looking for play, right? When I'm looking for design in game consoles,

I want to look at it and be like, I can play a game on that. And I understand stealthy, like, hey, it's a black box, whatever it is, but to me, like, that does not screen play. So I'm giving that F tier. F tier. I think that's up to.

That's insane. That's not a console. I would give this C. I would say C as well. Wow. This is clearly something that Magnavox is like, hey, we want something to look cool on your shelf as well. We are thinking about what the look is.

So I would give this a C. Do you think of a corpse agrees? Langley M. Neely stopped eating children to agree. Because he's like a giant bug person. Oh, okay. I've seen this. There's a narrative. He's like slender man.

Oh, I like. Lingly M. Just say the word pickle if you want us to drop this bit ever. And let us know. That's actually, and that's accurate, Langley. Langley always says in the chat, he's having a great time. But if it's ever not a great time, let us know, you know we're having fun. I give it to see.

Chat say and see, I guess we go see. Yay! We got outvoted here. Chat, you're so smart. It is what it is. It feels overwhelmingly see here. Damn. Okay.

A little bit. We're moving on then to. Atari 26. I would say we're starting to get a little bit more. All right, cool. These are actual real causes to some extent. I miss it. Where did the Magnovox go?

see. Thank you. Remember Lady Gaga wanted the Monster Clause? That was her thing. Ra, rah, ha, ha, that? Well, no, she, there was like, I mean, probably, I don't know enough about it. But I know there was a whole thing of Monster Clause

with Lady Gaga. Bear Google, Monster Clause. Can we write that? What's that? Mosties. She calls her fans little monsters, right? Is it something like that? Yeah. So here we go. The Atari 2,600.

Now, I feel like this to me, everything that we've just been saying of like, oh, the wood panel, the wood panel. This is just the example of the wood paneling actually kind of working. This has transcended to become iconic. I still don't love it because I don't like wood paneling. But to Roger's point, you play with this thing.

Yes, you do. Dude, this is an A tier for me. This is a gorgeous console. I mean, I don't have any nostalgia for this, of course, but I look at that, and like, especially those little knobs right there, the little switches, it's like, man, I want to touch that. I want to flip those. It feels like I'm using something from the future.

Like, I'm, like, piloting sometimes a spacecraft, but I'm also playing video games. Like, I love the way that the cartridge goes into that. Yeah, I think that's an ATO. That's a beautiful console. When we did that sponsored Atari stream, I was so blown away about what those switches and knobs actually do. What do they do? Like, they would...

Select the game? They would change the game mode. Oh. So, like, you would get the concert. You would have the cartridge, right? And you had to, like, if it was an 8-in-1 game, you had to have the right kind of thing in the back of the cartridge to make it select, like,

if I have these three, down, but this one up, that means I'm playing tennis or whatever. You would pop that sucker in, and then these things would, like, not only change the mode, but also change the color scheme of the game you were playing, shit is freaking wild. So not only is that insanely a cool feature, but

it's like it's built into the hardware, which is part of just a look. Those knobs, those switches aren't just there for decoration, but they look dope as hell. I would give this, I would still give this a B, though. How come? I would give it a B. I think once we,

get the other consoles in here like by the end of it in about an hour I want to go I know I'm going to be like oh I shouldn't have put that in B because these consoles are B's or these consoles are A's and I would have this a little bit lower As the pool starts to fill yeah yeah yeah like I think right now

I think if I were to like just think right now in the moment yeah put that A fuck it but once the list starts to fill out it'd be like oh we shouldn't have put that A it doesn't belong there I think it's a B I think it's a very nice console I do like it It's simplistic and stylish in the simplicity.

But I would still put it as B because I think, yeah, you have to leave more room for where we're going with this. I think there's room for as many A's as we want. I think that this is an A. I feel like it's not only classic, it's the best use of the wood finishing that you can possibly have. The Atari logo is awesome. And I think the placement on it is really cool.

And yeah, the functionality of being able to see the cartridge and see what games in there. And again, we keep saying this, but it's fun to interact with and taking the cartridge in and out. I want to do that. Let's get an A. I think Tim makes a very compelling. argument and so I would I would give him the

high ground and I would I will repeal my B I'm gonna give it an A as well I just I'm not worried about the amount of A's we'll have I'm I know that once we get there we'll be like this doesn't belong with the other A's though like let's be real you know but then it'll just be the lowest A or something we could always prune at the end let's prune at the end we can leave a little prune session

so there we go Atari 2600 at A and yeah I imagine it'll be a low A at the end of the day but an A nonetheless then we get to the Atari 5200. Disgusting. Atari 5200.

The thumbnail is disgusted to me and then this bigger picture disgusts me as well. It's what a nasty looking console. I googled it. It just looks like a it looks like a cell phone. It looks like the like an office type phone that everybody had back in the day. Like every

place you've ever worked had this office cell phone. I'll start the bidding at D. I'll start the bidding at D. This thing's stinky. See, I think there's worst ones to come. Yeah, I agree. So I think this is just a, it's just a D by definition. Yeah, and I think for

the time, maybe it was something, right? But that was a bad time. Yeah, for sure, absolutely. But I can see where they're going for like, oh, this is more modern, this is more style. Yeah, exactly. This thing is all black. It's got some silver at, uh, accent. Modern, what was the 80s? I don't know. If I was to cover up the console and look at the handheld,

I'm like, ooh, you're, you're telling me something right now. I'm kind of liking the look of this little joystick device. You just like the colors. Now let me scroll over and see what the rest of it's like. And then I get disappointed. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think this is a D because... It's a D for me.

Yeah, absolutely. I don't think it's enough. Agreed. That we got... So, and anyways, in the D's, I put it at the end of the D's. Yeah, I agree. Where I think again, Calico and Atari Pong tried something. They did something.

You know what I mean? They did something. So we're going to pick a style and run with it. I like that. It didn't work, but I appreciate it. Then we got the Calico Vision, which I don't know if I've ever actually seen. Oh, really?

Yeah. I've heard Jared Petty say it three times. Oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah. I think there's a family guy joke about it, right? I don't remember that. Gary Witta said it a couple times as well. I mean, Gary, yeah, Gary Witt has got that. I was writing about this when I was 32 years old. This looks like when you would see business and walking around with a phone in their briefcase. Yeah. That's what this kind of looks like. This is a travesty. There's too much going on and none of it's cooler fun. I don't want to interact with this. The ColicoVision logo is appalling.

Here's what I really, really hate about it. Let me point out the things that I hate about this fucking thing. Because I like the practicality. of having a slot to hold the handheld devices, the little controllers. I fucking hate the font of the numbers and that handheld device. I think that font is atrocious. It does not belong. It's a V-Tech fucking phone font. I'm with you. I like the idea of, oh, it'll have a utility or a function.

We can put the controllers in there. But then having the spiral cord comes the out of it looks so cluttered and ugly. And it immediately negates any props I would give it for, oh, the controllers are there and they have a nice place to go. immediately those things are getting tangled and you're going to have the worst time ever you're going to spend more time untangling these things

and you're actually playing the game. Fuck the Kaliko fish. It looks like a tape deck with a phone in it. It's fucking weird. It looks like too many things. I think it really was Kaliko. It feels like they are trying to legitimize this niche

little interest that some people have and it looks like them trying to appeal to the wider audience and be like, look how serious this device is. We're a serious. We deserve to be taken serious and I just don't like to look at it. Meldo Anto says it looks like a bomb you need to diffuse.

So where are we putting it here? Because like I, this is so far this is the one that angered me. Honestly, the font, I would give it an F. I would, yeah, I'm right there with you. That's the first one where I've seen it on like immediately like, oh. Like it gives me anxiety the way it looks. Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird one because like I have the nostalgia a little bit.

Because I, my dad had one and I found it underneath. And I was like play with him. You pushed all the porn magazines out of the way. Like this is the weirdest thing ever. But looking at it objectively, it is, it is disgusting to look. But I will say, I will say, I like the little grooves. I like the little grooves. I like the way that they designed that.

And I think it is kind of graphic in that sense. But yeah, everything else. I definitely like that as well to kind of break up the monotony of just like a straight flat surface or whatever. But I just really hate that font they're using. And it looks like something that they would use in this television show Severance. As like an old school device. For sure. For sure.

Fuck the Cleverton. So much cooler, though. You're right. Next up, we have. The Fairchild Chattle F? Whoa. I hate those controllers. I like them for one reason.

Look at them and like you can tell how those feel in your hands and in other places. You know what I mean? I think having the word child in a fucking product just immediately. Immediately gets you on an FBI list. Yeah, I don't like this. This looks like some grandma shit. I hate it. Like this is like you go to your grandma's house and she's like I have video games.

The yellow reset button too. What's the deal with that? The handles look very much like some 70s workout fitness thing that everybody's parents were buying. Yeah, but even like the fact that it has to say insert cartridge just shows how... Most of them say that.

I know, but like it's... It's not clear where it goes. So the fact that they have to say that so clearly, it's not a well-designed copy. You know what the top of this could use, Raj? The little grooves from the Kalikovision. Look how flat and boring that looks. Yeah, but I also don't like the way that it's like...

What shape is that? A trapezoidal. From the front view, it'll look like a trapezo. I don't like it. Yeah, no, I think this is the worst console we've seen. I think this is worse

than the clique of it. I agree. Wow. I don't. I don't. I think that this is, this is D tier. I would go D-E

right after Atari Pong and right before Atari 5200. No, wow, that's crazy. No, this to me is just like, it is everything I hate about these types of consoles, right? It does not look fun to play, and also it just does not have

like the functionality that I would be looking for in terms of like just looking at it be like oh I can put the cartridge in there easily it looks like Obi-Wan's light saber also you're saying Andy what's your vote I would put this F below the Kaliko vision the chats run away with F so

if they have the grooves on top maybe above Kalikovision yeah yeah we should groove or mod modifying yeah Groovin oh I like that Poilin Kevin says reminder or superchats in just like you can say reminder you guys said controllers don't count I feel like if the controllers are like part of

the system is different. Also remember we don't really give a shit. Yeah. Whatever's going to be the most fun argument for our point we're going to use. Roger wrote the rules. It doesn't fucking matter. Then we got next up the good fucking Lord. GE and Milton Bradley.

General Electric and Milton Bradley. The Vectrix. The Vectrix. The Vectrix. I don't want to know that the people making that. F tier. And that's the last. That is the last.

Wow. That is dead last. This looks like if somebody took a viewfinder and just made it too big and then stopped mid-project. It looks broken. Yeah, this looks broken. This is definitely the worst with that. So it came with the actual TV.

This looks like, yeah, this looks like you're in prison, but it's like a sci-fi futuristic prison, right? And like this is when you get sent to the hole, this thing fucking talks to you for 24 hours. I was going to say it like a face pops up on the screen and goes, hello, inmates, you have a visitor? You know what I mean? You have to like accept.

I do not want to touch that control. No. That analog stick or whatever the fuck that thing is. Mm-mm. Can we give some tip of the hat for the fact that it's, you know, all in one? Right? You plug that in. It's the game console.

It's the screen. It's everything. I feel like it's probably F tier, but it's like not the worst out of everything we've seen. In a way, it's kind of handheld. Exactly. Maybe we should be having the conversation. Yeah, I see what your argument is, but I also, I don't want to use that screen ever. It looks like somebody went to a scrapyard and made it with a bunch of different other parts.

Tony Stark. None of it looks like none of it looks like it's part of the same sort of product being sold. Yeah, I hate it. This is F at the very bottom. F very last. I'll let it right. Very, very bottom. But a little tip of the hat for the name, Vectrix. Great name. Great name. Very sick. This is when people started discovering you put an X in there. It's going to sound awesome. Yeah, it's going to be. And a V2. Like, come on. They're going hard there. The Mattel in television. This is another one I've heard a lot about. that I wouldn't be able to pick out of a lineup. Well, I guess looking at it says in television, so I wouldn't. You'd be able to, yeah, read it. I mean, okay, I want to give them some props

for at least trying to air on a premium vibe. Yeah. I don't love what they were going for, but I do feel like this had a vision that they committed to that I think hits it more than it misses. This is still... I would put this in C.

That's the thing. I'm weirdly like pushing for C, but I'm like, no. See, I think it's top of D. There can't be too many A. I think it's top of D. It's right there. It's sniffing at C.

Top of D. I don't mind that. What it reminds me of like is in between two couch cushions. Like that's where you put your little soda. It looks like in the middle. Here's where my remotes go. Here's where like, you know, junk goes. That's a D that's sniff and C if I ever saw one.

Good Lord. Moving on, we are skipping the game and watch because that is definitive. portable console and we're going straight to the Atari 7800. Andy for a million dollars if I was like, hey, what are all the Atari consoles? Dude, I was just about to say that. I would have assumed that the 100 series would have ended the last iteration.

I would skip the Jaguar immediately. Atari 7800. Huh. Wait, some have different handles though. What's going on here? I don't know. Like some have the different, like one of them has like sort of a two button. thing.

And I guess these are just controllers. Yeah, controllers are like detachable. So these are detachable now. They don't matter. Yes, they don't count anymore. I know. Now we're in a new lane. We're in a new world now.

We're going through history. This looks like a newer version of that other one we didn't love. But just a little bit better. I think it solves a lot of the problems of it. Yeah. Like I feel like the design language here, the clear gray line looks like the nice color. Fucking duh, Andy.

It's a newer version of the 5200 that we were just talking shit about. I was like, oh, it just looks like they took the other design. Well, yeah, it's the next version. And for that, I say C. I'm feeling C like this is just a great average base. It's just there. It's doing its thing. Yeah, this feels like the introduction of like what a modern console has become now.

It's just there. It's a black box and it's sleek enough. But the rainbow strip, though, I think gives it a little pizzazz. Exactly. And I would put it in front of the Magnobox. Yes. Yes. Just making sure on the same page.

High five is all around. Yeah. Bye. Next up, we have my first console ever. The Commodore 64. Wow. I didn't know you're a Commodore guy. You know, unfortunate garage sales.

It's a whole thing. Yeah. Access. You got to do what you got to do. So is it just a keyboard? It's a keyboard. Does it come with the... With the floppy drive thing?

No, it doesn't come with the screen. Yeah, see, that's what's weird here. This image here does not look familiar to me at all. But this does. That's on the tier thing. But yeah, like that's the Commodore 64 that I know, which is, yeah, it's kind of just like a computer with a big chunky-ass keyboard. It is the... It looks like a computer, yeah.

here's what I don't love about it I'm going to make a little comparison to my San Antonio Spurs they love using their fiesta colors the teal the orange and the pink and it's like they use that in marketing but not really anywhere else I want these color rainbow stripes

all over the damn place well not all over it but like use it way more than just here's this one little tiny strip there if they utilize that a tiny bit more I'd say like this thing looks really stylish around or something right yeah just like maybe on the right side

near where those little button pads are, like just a little strip down there or something. This is poopy, poopy. I don't like any of these computers that have that, like, ugly ass, beige, gray situation going on. And there's like an angry computer in the 90s. It looks like it already oxidized. Like, I'm in the computer lab right now

in elementary school. Yeah. I don't like it. But how much do you not like it? I would put this, I would put this like low D, high F. I don't think it's offensive. I don't look at that and be like, this is disgusting. It's just like, oh, it's a regular born. It's just no. It's just no. I would put this. I would put this. I would put this. I No personality.

It's boring. So, yeah, I would put it mid-Ds. But that's my- Yeah, I guess actually the Ds that we have aren't that offensive. I would put it by-man. Yeah, mid-D I could get behind between a calico and Atari.

I'm with that. Yeah. I was going to put it above the color tron. Wait, that's not the image that I'm fucking looking at. Yeah, that's the thing. I don't know what that is. Oh, okay.

Jared Paget could tell you about it. I think that image is just the keyboard and then. Yeah, yeah. Oh, maybe. Like a case or something. Yeah. And then here we go, boys.

We're getting serious. We're getting real. The Nintendo Entertainment System. Take away nostalgia. Just look at this image. Let's look at it. Let's just all look at it together. We're about to have a Gen Z hater right here.

No, I'm just, I'm going to say. Now we're getting into the point. This is the consoles that we actually love, right? And we just got to remove it. I'm going to do that for my Xbox 360 as well. You know what I mean? Oh, wow. That's big of it.

Yeah, if we could bring up an NES, we can actually talk about this. It's taking a while because all of the images are the fucking minis. Give me a sound. I'm looking at this. I'm giving it a hard look right now. The audience hasn't seen it right now, but now they are.

The audience has never seen the audience. And I'm giving this a hard look. And I'm going to vote with my heart, but more importantly, my brain, and my kidneys. Jesus fucking Christ. I'm going to give this a high C. High C.

That's kind of where I'm at. Wow. I'm kind of, I mean, like, it's not offensive. It's good. I think it's a pretty solid console, but it doesn't excite me. It doesn't even scream too much play. That sounds like D. Y'all were just making those same arguments for D consoles.

But I'm just saying, like, again, I think that this is, if I look at the actual Cs, right? It's closer to the Cs and are like, I don't never want to really touch those. Cs. I'm like, yeah, I'll touch those. And that's where I'm out with them. I could go low, I could be convinced low B because I love the two-tone bottom gray with the top gray. This is my strip. We're talking about how these things look.

This is the first one that we've seen that has an actual design style that I feel like, besides maybe the Atari with the rainbow strip. This, they were trying to do something with the colors and with the design itself that would like to make this feel special and to be its own thing.

And they fucking nailed it. And time has shown that that is true. It might not have been that true at the moment. But looking at this thing, I, my gut says A, having said that, the more I look at it and think about it, I can be talked down to the B. and I feel good about it be. I think that there's more consoles

that do look better than this, but I think that this is iconic for a reason, and the font choice is inspired. It looks awesome, and the red, where they use red on this thing, I think is perfect, and the little line,

can we pull it up again, the grid line that they have, of the transitioning from the two grays with the black, with all the lines, like, that's good design, and especially as it translates to the controller,

which just adding the design of it all. I feel like there's cohesion here. Here's what could have pushed it even further? Because similar to my arguments with the Atari's and having this like rainbow color scene that's just not being utilized enough, can you imagine if what broke up the two grays was a red light?

That would be the most fire bucket looking thing ever, but that's in a different universe. We didn't have the technology. We didn't have that tech. You're right, Greg. I would, Tim really convinced me. I would put this at B. Yeah, he's convinced me as well.

I think also... I was on the side from the beginning. I just didn't get to say it. It's good. I think also when I, for me, it's like I was trying to remove the controller because the controller is so iconic to me and speak so much to that console, but I think you're winning, you're winning me over with the cohesion of it all. And also, I love those buttons.

Oh, yeah, I feel good. I feel good. That power of that spring, dude. Open up the tray. Yeah. Tactal. Next up we got the Sega master system. Penny be good since the red bar would be neon of full of mercury.

It's just getting sick all over the world. I'm dead Greg Miller I'll start with you of course you owned this I did this is my first video game console Okay first off fuck off What is the diagram going on here? It's like war games What is happening? What is so hard from like a early beta? What is the diagram there? Yeah, what is happening? It's like it's like a mind It's fucking telling you how to use it It said we don't need to give you a complicated instruction manual. We will give you the easiest thing are you playing with the cartridge or the card? That's right There were two different forms of meetings

on the Sega Mass and stuff. This was the dev unit they said now. Then it was, Connected Control 1 or Control 2, depending on what you're doing it. And then you connected a TV system. Ready, fucking go. Any kid can fucking see this. You got these kids out there. Look at Snowbike Mike. If he would have been raised like this, he would understand. If he was raised like, he would look at this for five

seconds, then cry and then they would take this back to the store. If you've if you've ever been in game development, the diagram up top looks like when you're making a texture or a tiling material that moves and animates like, whatever. Yeah, you're connecting all these different nodes and stuff. That's like part of their instructions on top.

It really does. Which kind of smart, but also just really doesn't look good. Because people don't have the right idea. Make them look at this, Barrett. This is not connected to nostalgia at all. Of course now. There's no nostalgia. Look at how dope it is up there to have three different fonts.

We got Sega. We got all caps, master's system. And also power base. So is this the power base? What is, what is, so I get, what's, I guess the controller, yeah, the control pad, but like, see, the master system slash power base, master system is in all caps. So that's the master system. Control pad, you'll notice is in all caps as well before they introduced yet another font for

start. So like, they were like trying. They were cooking here. I like the red. The red and black is a good look. The color combo good. I feel like this is definitely in that, like, the D tier that we've, we've built here, looking at these compared to the other systems.

I feel like this is regressing a little bit. Like compare this to the NES and it's like, what the hell we don't do? I think most importantly, right, to compare it to the NES. Again, throw it back up, Barry, please. The idea I think with the problem, the problem I have with it, right, is the fact that I think that black and red is such a good look.

And then they do clutter it so badly with this diagram. Even if you just erase that, right, and had it be in a cooler way cartridge and put reset pause and then just the red line, you'd be closer to something like that. the NES, not there. I still like the shape, though. Yeah, I don't love the shape either.

I, do you think they were going for something to kind of look at the mass audience to be like, hey, you know how tape players work. Were tape players out when it was getting, yeah, right? No. No? Because I'm looking at, like, what's really out probably, but I don't know. What's really fucking me up is the power on being this like sideways triangle to, it looks like it's emulating, hey, this is the play.

This is how you start. VHS came out in 1976, so yes, they, but they would have been around. Like that triangle on this diagram is just really throwing off all of the sort of vibes. Sure. Yeah.

The vibes are bad. The vibes are very bad. Excellent. Also, something I hated then and I hate now, looking at it, I know we're not talking about the controllers. But the controller is plugging in on the side to then be held like an AES controller.

So weird. Oh, yeah. That should be plugged on the top. That side plug was always, what the fuck you're doing? Yeah. Anyways. I go for it.

I mean, I think D. I think we're nailing it. I would put it personally Yeah, honestly, I would go behind Colico before a Commodore Because again, I think Mattel's In television, the gold, Calico trying something,

Sega just, there's too many spices in the soup. I agree. I just made that up, by the way, too. You can all start using it. Spice in the soup. Too many spices in the soup. Things are getting a little too spicy. You with that?

I would put this I would put this at the end of D, honestly. End of D? Yeah. Wow. Wow. Raj. Well, you need Roger figure out what he's going to say?

Where would you put this thing? Me and Tim are behind putting the Sega Master's system D-tier between Kaliko and Commodore. Andy wants it to be D-tier behind Atari 20, at the very, very end. Yeah, it's at the very end. Wow. It's just the, it's the fonts. Chat, do you want it to be mid-C or ends? No, I'm sorry.

You screwed me up looking at Sega Borg. Mid-D or N-D. Thank you. Felix says mid-D. Taylor says N-D. Get some ads. We're getting some mids. Highs.

No, this is the first time. We're splits. The chat has been splits. Barrett Courtney, you will rule. What is your call? It's mid-D. Mid-D-D-D-E, everybody. That's behind the Calico?

Yeah. Great job, Barrett. Mid-D-D-D. Incredible. Then we got a couple handhelds. We're going to skip, and we're going to go straight to the Turbographic 16. Good. Turbo-Graphics 16.

I think good to the name. What's the different? Are we doing the turbo- one person who had the turbographic 16 so I don't understand the mini versus the regular

so let's just go straight to this turb graphics 16 is where a bonc lived remember bonged everybody what

remember bonged did I fucking stutter he's like the one of the most famous I hate this I hate this I fucking hate the look of this this looks like

any sort of cheap knockoff like fake version of a console you're at the mall kiosk you'd buy this for $20.

Yeah, I really hate it. Looks like a memory card. I hate everything about this. Yeah, this is F. And they really tried something with their colors and it didn't work. I feel like it's such a safe choice for a color combination and they fucked up.

It looks so cheap. Yeah. This is as F as you can get for me. Yeah, I go F because they tried something and failed. Oh, I do no bong. I would give it an F too. I'm not like, super angry about it, but like if I look at that list,

I'm like, yeah, it's definitely falls in into the F. Having said that, I do think it's the top of the F. To me, it looks like they paid for somebody make the logo and that's it. Everything else is like engineers just putting hardware together. It looks so cheap.

Next up, we do have skipping the game boys. We're going to the Super Nintendo, the S-N-E-S. My first real console. There was a Commodore 64 in my house, but it was my dad's. This was my console. And I love the collard combination more than anything. over the years of yellows and it doesn't look as good,

but you gotta love that. The soft gray, the soft purple. It's just, oh, it's so sexy. But I don't know, man, there's some problems with this thing. That would be real. The problems, but are we talking about just the look of it? It's so boxy. You know what I mean?

I feel like the design of it, it's a little over-engineered. Like, there's too many layers going on. The buttons aren't that great either. I think this is a B-tier. Wow. but I think it's I think I prefer the NES I prefer the NES I love the purple though I think the purple is inspired but I love the

two tone of the NES and what they're going for their S NES a little bit of a step backwards but still in the B tier for me I agree I would this would be the first one I would go S wow I love that I love the S NES I think the colors are so good the dual tone like triple if you want to talk about the controller cable there the purple the stylized Super Nintendo no entertainment system like that I in general I just think that's a beautiful system. Say like for the nostalgia for sure I get where you're coming from like but I didn't

I don't have nostalgia for it. Oh like I was to say a kid through this I eventually after playing an entire summer of playing Super Mario world in Matt Noelle's basement I traded a bunch of stuff to get it and then I only played more Super Mario World while listening to the brand new Weezer album Pinkerton. That is where it starts and stops from you with that S&ES. For me, I just, I, just knowing what, you know, the Super Famicom looks like, I don't know, I like those colors. I will always die on the hill that the American one looks better. And I feel like that's one of my crazier takes. I think the Super Famicom looks so much cooler than this one.

Yeah, that's like, I can see the argument for an S tier on that one. The Super Famicom to me is an S tier and I would give the American Super Nintendo. I would give that a, I'd give it a B. Wow. Yeah, I go be, but my thing too, though, I think the color scheme is S tier. The purple, the color scheme of the purple and gray, that the scheme is S tier to me. Yeah, I agree. The family, the super Famicom colors, I think they're straight up ugly.

Like, I do not like those primary colors together. I absolutely love it. It's my favorite thing ever. Now, the, I think what does it for me on the Super Famicom is the roundness of the angles. And I think that the shapes and blockiness and where they chose to put the. those shapes and blocks for the Super Nintendo is really what kind of doesn't work for me. Now, when the Super Nintendo had its reissue, where the buttons were on the side, I hate that even more.

I thought we were going to go the opposite. Yeah, the reissue sucks. Yeah, the reissue sucks so bad. But yeah, so Super Nintendo Bs here is where we're landing. Okay. But now here's the question. Is it above or below the NES? I think it's below.

I think it's above. I mean, the Super Nintendo is like so near to my heart. And nostalgia aside, I just think the colors are so great. It's eating you alive, I see it. Yeah. I don't know, man. I think the NES is a classic

for a reason. I put the Super Nintendo second. Fair enough. Can you bring the list up one more than me? I would put this below the NES. Okay. Yeah, low B for me. Missing Link says it, what we're all thinking.

Insane. Lemon Bendie. bad. Where is this going? I would go low, I think it's beat, right? It's B tier behind the NES. Behind the NES? Yeah, man.

I tuned out for a second. Yeah, you left me hanging on that, Bear. I don't know why we, like, I really think that the Super Famicom should be here. But that's just me. Yeah. Because that's an answer for me. Then we have the

Philips CDI. Awesome. Wow. This is when I. I don't think I've ever seen a person. Yeah, I've only... Or maybe at a museum. It's not a pawn shop at one point.

Oh, fuck this. Disgusting. It looks like a VCR. What's this? Yeah, it's a VCR. Yeah, no. But... It's just a VCR, yeah.

But it's a clean VCR. Yeah. Like, you compare to some of the other ones we saw that had way too much shit going on. You look at this, you understand what's going on. I feel like this kind of looks like... It doesn't make me want to play. No, but I mean... Make sure I don't know.

Yeah, exactly. Now, whatever the display screen is that pops up, I'm expecting to see, like, equalizer. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Like, like song title or something like that or like FM like kind of numbers and shit.

I don't know. I feel like this is clean by design and there's nothing offensive about this at all. Like I don't hate this. Yeah, I mean, when you look at it, right, let's think about it. It's like, that's pretty close to an Xbox one, right? Like it's, I mean, I don't know where we're going to go with the Xbox One or whatever, but this is what a lot of consoles end up becoming. I don't find it offensive.

I don't find it like, I don't, I don't, even think it's probably, I mean, I don't know. I don't know if it's a C, but. I go mid C. Looking at our list here, like, I think this is better than the MagnaVox for sure, but I don't think it's as good as not Atari. Yeah, I think it's middle of the road, probably. Then I would put it as C. I would put it below the Magnovox, because it just, it just looks like a receiver.

That's my thing. Fuck off, Tim. You dork. You audio dork. You audio, dude. Hey, man, I'm telling you, I'd be down in D tier if you guys weren't here. I'd be down to you. style and I'd probably put it after

my heart wants to say master system but my head probably say before the master system. I'm down to put it at the top of D tier. Like this is right there. We're right in the middle here. What do you guys feel? I want this bitch as low as I can get it. So if I got to get on that, if I got to get on that ticket, put on that party hat right now at the convention, I'm in. Are you guys C? You guys are strong C's no, no, I'm a I'm a high D low C. I don't. I do it.

Hide it. Let's idea it. next up we got see this is where it gets fucking complicated because Sega went goddamn crazy all right this generation of Sega they're fucking wild God we have so many let's go to the Genesis

yeah Sega Genesis is what we're doing because there's a bunch of revisions who ordered it why they ordered I don't know it's bizarre but the Sega Genesis is what we're ranking on this goddamn list okay and I love the Sega Genesis I agree the first version of it is so damn sweet I feel like they

They had some style. They had some grace. They knew what they were doing with this thing. And I feel like this is a great definition of the early 90s. Like this to me is as iconic for the early 90s as the NES was for the 80s. See, and they learned all their lessons from the master system. All right. They don't need the chart, the flow chart on how to play it, right?

On off. It had a headphone jacket. Tim, you must love that. You know what I mean? A great logo, 16 bit, a little bit of red. We're in and we're out. This is an S tier. I hate this.

This is in this year. This looks like a better version from the 70s consoles that we saw. Like all of this, like the volume knob on the bottom left. And like those pieces of hardware look like because you couldn't have those digitized. I hate 16 bit being on top. I don't like the size of the logo. That was the branding back then. It looks like a kid would be playing this fake console on Johnny Five.

I don't like this. I hate it. Oh, I love the edgy font. Like, it's so like Spider-Man 90s. It's Ray, too. Yeah, no, this is debatably ass, but I, my heart says. What? Debatably S? Debatably S? I say there's no debate. It's S.

I don't think it's X. I go A, though. I think it's A, though. Again, I don't have any connection to this console at all, but I look at that and it's everything I want. It feels playable. It feels like I want, I look at it like, oh, that's a game concept. That looks fun.

That looks fun. It also looks edgy. It looks like, comparatively to the Superanial. It's like, shit, I understand how there's competition here. And also, I love the buttons here. I like that. It has the reset button. I love the volume notch over there. I never used it once.

I think it looks cheap as hell as well. It looks like a cheaply made piece of hardware, similar to when we saw the turbo graphics, it was like, this is a, because 16 bit is on top, it looks so bargain-bin to me. No, it's the opposite. No, it's rare. It looks, like the font choice that they use, it's like they were so unconfident in their thing. They had to put the specs on it.

It's ugly, dude. That thing is ugly. You lose a vote. It's going to 80. This is a, this is a fucking, like, low C high D for me. Wow. I think it's really not good looking. I also love the circular aspect of it.

Yeah, this is a great design, man. Solidate. Yeah. That's why I'm the lead designer here, everybody. I think this is below it. I think it's above. I go above. Wow.

Oh, above? Yeah. I guess we're on above? What paneling, man. That's insane. What are we doing? It's a goddamn Genesis, man. It's a cool name.

The best name. Put that next to the Odyssey's best names. So far. Next up, we got... Just the regular Neo Geo? Neo Geo. Yeah. The OGOO. Sure. God, they made too many consoles back then.

They did. There were too many people in the space. I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. Too many shapes. Commit to a shape. Commit to a vibe. Let me pull up. Too many.

This looks cheap as fuck also. the CD. It does. Oh, that's not the one? That's not the one. Yeah, hold on. It says CD on the top. That's true. Do they all say CD on the top? Beans Got Game says when you turned on the Neo Geo, your lights flickered.

Such a power draw on the middle of your living room. In fact, this console is not cheap. It's Oni Moni. Yeah, I don't. Oh, I was looking at the CD, my bad. Well, this one I like better than the CD, but. I like the angle. I don't know, I guess that's where you put the cartridge in there.

I'm hoping. I don't know what else you put in there. But I like the way that that looks. Yeah, I would say C. There's something nice about it that's like C-ish to me. And it does look premium. It's very expensive. It was very expensive.

This doesn't look, make it cheap. It's clean, not cheap looking. I give it C. I agree. Really quick before we continue on. Tim, you say you don't like the CD. Yeah, I do not. Okay, I'll bring that back at some point.

He's going to get your ass. Oh, no. You're about to get canceled. The NeoGeo you guys want it to C? Yes, yes, it's C. I put it in the middle. Yeah, I agree with that. Look, we can all agree.

Yeah. Unity. Then next up, we have the Jaguar. The Jaguar. The Atari Jaguar. There's a Jaguar CD. There's also a Jaguar Tiger. No, that's not right.

No. I thought these were so much cooler because they were just like rarer. And little did I know how much better I had it that I was as a Nintendo kid. Oh. Oh, god damn. Don't let's with these controllers. Don't let's fucking number. Knock off the controller.

It looks like Predators mask. Yeah. I mean, you look at the console, like from the maker of the Genesis. Like it just looks like the same thing, bro. Like, no. The weird dome in the middle. The logo is fucking great, though. I appreciate that it's going for something.

I don't like what it's going for. Yeah. I'm with you that. I don't love the angled ridges over there that they're trying to go for It looks like a kid put a fucking sticker on his parents George Forming Grill Like they're just putting their stickers wherever they want

They have this Jaguar sticker You know? The logo doesn't fit there is bad Yeah Yeah Logo's cool though I agree I think it would have been cool if that was the only logo On there and not the Atari

And also the whole all the text they had there I think it's C Yeah I even time to set all that I do think it's C I put it behind the Atari 7800 in front of the Neo Geo I put it behind the Neo Geo I agree with that

I put it behind the Neo Geo I might even go lower but I'm outvoted Now we got The Nintendo 64 Now Barrett I feel like this is where you're trying to get my bitch No you're trying to get you on the PS2

No no Tim fucking nailed it Hold on I lost the picture of the What was it the CD Nintendo C64 goes way low for me I agree Oh yeah I agree Make that suck a chance

transparent though. Atomic perfect. Got watermelon? God damn. It went fucking crazy. Yeah, that teal? Oh, that thing did things to me. Yeah.

God damn. Yeah, Nintendo 64, not a looker, I would say. I like the rounded edges of it. To me, as a kid, that screamed more of like a video game console than anything. Like, I looked at that comparatively to the competition. I was like, oh, shit, like that. I want to play that.

I'm doing an impression of Nintendo 64. It just always looked like it's got like its fist down in the front. It was the fun machine. And again, I looked at, I looked at that. I'm like, oh, I do want to play that. That is something. Look, and it's got four ports. Different, they're colored in the front.

So they're calling out to you that you need more controllers, more friends. But it's 64, so it's showing off that it's 64 bits. So they're desperate. So this should be FTA. You know the logo, you know those stickers that were like kind of bubble feeling? Yeah. Yeah. That's what it always looked like the front logo was like a, like, like, yeah.

I think the N, the N64 logo of just like the N is the cool, one of the coolest looking things ever. Yeah. I just wish it was implemented better. here. I never liked that it was separate from it. It always just looked like they pasted it on later. It's just going for a lot of things that don't work for me. Toposy.

Here's my thing. All the shit I just talked. Looking at this, comparing it to where we're at, I think this is a bottom of B. Because you look at it and I feel like it is well designed for what they're trying to get across. Greg sold me on the four controller ports just being front and center. The 3D Nintendo logo is an all-timer. And I feel like their commitment to that color scheme is great.

I feel like the colors of the console are clean and well organized. And the expansion pack thing on the top, like that's just inviting even more fun. I'm going bottom B. I say hi C. I stick with it. I say high C as well. I think you actually bringing up the Nintendo logo drops it down a peg for me because there's no like cohesion with that throughout the console. I know that it's important to have it there, but there's no like a strip of something. There's nothing there.

And the control, I know we're not supposed to look at the controller, but the controller has that extension. I think the coolest aspect of it, for me, are the light gray accents, being the controller ports and the tray. But yeah, everything else, it's like, it's got just weird curves all over the place. It kind of looks like columns where, like,

for those front two base areas. I just don't like anything that it's doing. This is go anywhere C for me. Yeah, I think someone in chat, I think personally nailed it where they said, the base model C tier but

what the fuck is that there we go base model C tier but C through B tier but if we're just going I could follow with that yeah I mean top of C I'm fine with

there it is Top of C I mean it's still way below the Sega Genesis 16 bit which is the full name of that console good as it should be I like he can always find something to hang on to you know what I mean just sucks

God forbid he celebrate you saw the chat disagreeing with every With all of you, by the way. Do you know why Shroud gets more views? Because he's happy. And then we have a weird one here with the Virtual Boy, which like, I don't know, it's not a handheld, but like... I mean, you can put, bring it anywhere. You know what I mean?

Yeah, it's... That doesn't count. But I don't know in the next one. It sucks anyways. Oh, here we go, Greg. The Sega. One of the worst controls ever. The Sega Saturn.

Sega Saturn, which you owned. I did own a Sega Saturn. This is what broke my heart with Sega and made me never. them again. I love how this thing looks. Oh my God. It's insane. How's that insane?

You love the way that looks? Dude, it's just fucking clean. And again, the Saturn logo, dope as shit. The only good things about the Sega Saturn or the logo. How big was this thing, Greg? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. You know, not, I don't think it's size was ever one of my outrageous complaints with it. I feel like it lacked personality. I feel like, I think I would be happier with the design if it wasn't the bubble top there. Like it should have been just a box instead of the bubble top. I just

I owned it and I didn't like it. I have many reasons I hated it but it's design isn't one of them. I was never inspired by it. I felt like it was very much a machine that didn't have personality. Especially when you're talking about following up on the

master system which we're free to hate on, the Genesis which we've ranked so high to then get here and have this complete failure of a system and have it look like this. Again, again, it's just a blur you know what I mean you want to take this a lot higher you take that glossy front panel

and extend that all the way down to the front just to add that sort of differentiation but I'm so with you on the bubble top if it didn't have the bubble top I think I would look at this a lot different because I love the font I love the logo up top but so much of it just screams like they didn't have a direction the front of it also just

looks so bland like that that looks just like that much dead space it looks like the big bezels that we hate Tim like just old TVs that looks like a bezel. Dude, this looks like the stuff we see in the D tier. Thank you. This feels like a D tier. Like, I know it's special to some people, but

not to know. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's not to some weirdos. Top of D. Yeah, no, I think that, unfortunately we have some sickos here that don't understand that clean is good. So that fulfill up CDI and this both great. Don't belong in D. But here we are. Yeah, I'm down for whatever.

Surprising people are clicking off to wash around. I'm down for low C as well. Um, um, um, crowd. Then we have the... I'm bringing the nighttime jokes on Andy's stream

into the daytime game. He always popped in. Shot out of more views in this guy. He always says. All right, here we go. The PlayStation 1. Daily chat too. The original PlayStation.

The original PlayStation. The original PlayStation. S fucking tier. Come on. Polygatal graphics, polygonal console. Sharp edges. I mean... Fucking colors Andy always wants.

You're not wrong. It's fucking gorgeous. This is an S-tier. It's a beautiful console. I love the circular design for the buttons. Like, it has cohesion, especially with the pop-up top. Like, fucking gorgeous. And what does it for me?

Yeah. Well, it gets me just real fucking, you know, just, oh my God, Roger. Goonin. It's that little slit from the open to the CD tray. Yeah. Not a CD tray, the flip down, and the slit down from power to the power light. Those little tiny aspects along with the two large bars on the top. top right and left with the sort of smaller bar in the middle.

All of this is just like, it's so beautiful to me. I don't know if it's S-tier, but if I get out of it, I won't be sad about it. But what's holding it back for you? Because, like, for me, my biggest thing is, I think it's S-tier. I have a very staunch anti-gray agenda. Like, I don't like the color gray. I like black. I like white.

And I want to keep it that way. There's something about this, though, that it's just this gray, this color gray, with the nice little palette that they have of the, The colored power and open. Here's what's keeping it from me. At the end of the day, when I see what our S-T is likely going to be, I'm going to say, this belongs right below that. And it's still awesome looking.

If I vote, I won't be sad about it, but. This is ass, baby. Yeah, I think it's as awesome. And look at the way that the controller plugs in and then the memory card perfectly. The font of memory card. Sony's logo will always be one of the most timeless things ever. Yeah. This is gorgeous.

Yeah, no, this is an S. the color logo that's just one of the fuck you know what put f it whoa eff it f it put it in oh no no fuck it is what I'm saying put it in s yeah eff it s it yeah

f it s it um then we're moving on to god there's some there's a lot of systems you all this uh the 3DO let's just do the 3dio let's just do let's just be honest and put the PS1 million S rank for me just the tip of the hat for me the PS1 mini is one of my favorite looking of all time. I love the roundness of it. It's so fucking good looking. I mean if I don't think it's not here but yeah we could if we want I think there are some later on there's some Xbox this is a recent one isn't this is the mini right 3d oh yeah you're right the 3d oh god I love the mini the 3d oh I don't hate it too but I hate this I hate it F it looks like a F yeah this is an F underneath

what we have at D? That is insane. No, that's, that's an F. I agree. This looks like this came out. This looks like a dev unit. This looks like something they,

we're not done with the final design, but we're playing on this to show you what's on. It looks like it belongs in like the 70s and early 80s. What the fuck's going on top of it? Is it stackable? Why is it like this? It looks like something you place the N64 on top. Yeah, right.

Cool. That's disgusting. That's great. No, F. That is insane. Insane. Top of it.

I'll give you top of F. He's been generous. You know what I mean? That does not belong with those other ones down there. That's insane. That's shit that touched the asshole before it fell. You know what I mean?

I think that this, looking at this list, that's like third in D. That's above the television and all that shit. The buttons pushed it over. Those buns are gross. They're disgusting. Why are they there?

They're colorless. It looks incomplete. The entire thing looks incomplete. That's when you'd set up in your mom would be like, well, is there more of it? Where's the rest of it? Then we jump to the Xbox.

the original Xbox. Big boy Xbox. Let's look at it. Look, man, I'm starting this off. Great colors. Let's introduce some neon green into this fucking world. And let's make it hot

against that black. It's going to look good. It's in the name, everybody. It's the X box. What's it going to look like? A box with an X on it. You can't hate on this for what it is.

You can't. Four ports. Ready to go. Big time party. Gray buttons up there. You can see right away what you're getting into. Labeled the ports,

which is always fun. That's true. You know, I'm not a lot of people doing that, right? And then that popping green Xbox logo on top. It's definitely one of those that I can't really hate on much of it. I love the Spider-Man font that they're using. I don't think it's doing anything that makes me go, holy shit, I love this. I think the only thing I can say that about is maybe just that color green and the sort of chance loosenness of it,

transparency of it. I would give this like a high B for me. I go high B too. I agree with that 100%. I can go high B. I think my heart is an A. I think that's a gorgeous console. And it epitomizes cool, right?

Like, I think those are the two pillars, right? It's either fun, oh, it's a little kid's toy, or fucking sick. And I need to buy that cool. You're a bad. Now, when I was going to Austin, Texas, to babysit my cousins, and I was going to be there all summer, I was like, I'm going up there to raise money so I could buy an Xbox and play HAL with my friends. And as I was about to hop on that little car ride, for my parents who take me, they were

like, we bought it for you early, just pay us back. and they bought me the transparent green Xbox with Halo 1. Holy fuck. That thing is like S-ranked to me just because anything transparent, give it to, you know. Quick epilogue of that story isn't talking about often. The two cousins drowned in a pool because he was playing Xbox. It really sucks. Wow.

That was not the way to do it, Bob, and Dad? Where are we putting it then? The top of B, which then puts it above the NES and S-N-N-S-N-S. Are we feeling that? Sorry, Mario. Get another plate of... Spaghetti. I would put this at the bottom of B then. Ah, no, I think it's better than the SNES.

But I'm not married to this. And also I love that it's the Xbox and it's the only Xbox that actually put an X on the fucking concept. Yeah, I go top of the B. I go top of the B. Top of the B looking down on the... Then we have the Nintendo GameCube. We won't even talk about this. S-tier, let's keep moving. S-tier. Are you kidding me?

For the GameCube? The looks of the Nintendo GameCube? I'm doing it. I'm toss it right on. It had a fucking... handle. It was meant to take to your friend's house and play games. It had a handle. The irony? Adorable little discs. It wasn't big. It wasn't small. It was somehow in between. It was orange and it was purple and it was black and it was silver. It was a game. Cube. Are you kidding? Doug, I'm going to be honest with you. Greg, this is like, legitimately when you first thought of that, I was like, Greg's doing his little silly thing. And now I'm going to be like equally a silly but real as well. I think this is like, if not S, S,

It's definitely A for me. No, it's, I hear you and I respect you, but no. The shapes being used, the button shapes up top. I love the square vents on the side of the unit. Again, the handle. So, like, useful and practical, right? No, though. Also, the controller ports having this little, like, gray raids section.

This is a great looking freaking console. It has so much character. Identity. Some of the best font we've ever seen. Damn, dude. This is a console you can hear. This is a good, do, do, do. This is a good looking fucking console.

Not about software. It's not about software. It's about a screen. This is about a screen. You can do that with nothing in it, so in your fucking face. That's true. I think this is an A tier.

I don't think this is an S tier necessarily, but I love the cohesion of it, especially the name and also the fact that it's a fucking cube. I remember always being distinctly jealous of seeing GameCubes at Friends houses because it was like the centerpiece, even though it wasn't the centerpiece. Just how beautiful it was.

I just look at that, man. Like, that's so badass. The different color variations on it. The gray button on the, the top left being different, like, ugh. I go B. And the center circle being like the same size as a tiny little baby

disc. Tiny little baby disc. Horrible design. If it was the baby, if we brought on the baby disc, that would be F tier for me. Fuck the baby disc. The handle pisses me off because we didn't need a handle on this system at all. And it doesn't enhance the looks. We're not taking GameCubes like that. Oh, I was. You should have fucking

gone to a real college. Oh, I mean, that's on you. I was taking the game Right here, you had no friends, all right? We were moving game queues around every room of the goddamn parties. Put a handle on the Xbox. They're fucking called Bill Gates. Don't blame Nintendo because they did when Xbox don't, okay?

No. When the hit Rio Grande Valley band Ambalina would practice overnight and have our long sessions of writing music, I would take that little fucking game cue. We would play double dash and we would play smash. And that little handle always came into you. And it's such a smart design choice, right? It's almost like the switch, right?

where it's like, hey, it's inviting you to bring it places, to have a moment with people. This isn't meant to sit there and be in a dark entertainment. You can grab it, you can move, and it is meant to be moved around with friends. I love it. Damn, I never thought that I would be this much of an S-ranker for GameCube until I got on this fucking show.

Get up, S-rank. I'll fucking do it. I'll do bottom of S-rank. Yeah! All right, the votes have it. You don't have the votes. It's all good. Then we got the Dreamcast. Next up. The Sega Dreamcast. Tell us about it, Greg.

I mean, the coolest name? By the time they announced this and it was coming out, I was like, fuck you Sega. I'll never buy it in their Sega system. I killed Sega. Their own problems killed Sega, but they're... Them dropping the bag and fumbling the ball out there is what made me, they killed the fan base. They tried. I hate so many things about the dream.

I hate the triangle, triangular angles being used on this freaking device. No, no, so here's the thing. I really hate the logo as well. Oh, my God. No, here's the thing. I don't like the logo being attached to the word dreamcast. I think Dreamcast evokes something else and not this like orange circular thing that kind of reminds me of just not the word Dreamcast just evokes like something more colorful and purple and bluish and pinkish and so, you know, like that logo never matched up with the word to me. I agree 100%.

The spiral always makes me think crazy. Yeah. Or you got hit in the head and you're doing like Rudy or. It's like the thing trying to hypnotize you. I love this. I think the Dreamcast, this is A for me. Wow. I hate the games on Dreamcasts.

I hate a lot of things about the Dreamcasts. I fucking hate the controller. But the console, I love this thing. Yeah, to me, this feel, you see all the design influences from the previous consoles we just talked about, right? You see the PS1 in here. You see the GameC even, like, you see what they were trying to go for and, like, mix it all together, and none of it works for me. I think it is a lesser version of that. I would give it like a C.

I would toss it C as well. I hate the triangular stuff. I could go low B high C for it. And also, like, it has the logo. We can debate what the logo is. I like the logo. It doesn't connect to anything else on the fucking console. And I wanted more orange.

I want something else. Oh, it's the perfect amount. Just one plop on the gray. Something else. Well, I guess, like, again, I don't, I like the logo. I just don't think it mixes what the word dream cast. Dreamcast is, like, such a different vibe to me. And it's one of the coolest console names.

Just the words Dreamcast is such a cool sounding thing. I would say C and I would put it right behind the Atari 7800. in front of the Nio I would put it below the 64 because I think it is a lesser like version of that type of thing I think I would put this above the Nintendo 64 wow okay okay

there you go top of C yeah Tim's highest score pulls that up was that sucker baby and then we got the PlayStation 2 S tier baby S tier not only S tier number one oh I agreed there

we're putting that top of S tier top of the list right, you gotta put it up there. This, Roger, it was, let me just talk to you. Let him talk to you. You could lay it down. You could stand it up. I know, I had a PSU. That was my first console. Shut your little baby mouth. When you did, you could spin the logo on the disc drive, all right?

And then it had PS2 written cool on the side. And the green light? And remember when it came in just, the box alone, just this blue fucking box logo out front. The blue gradient for the USB ports in the front. The blue and green lights alone are some of the coolest things ever. That's true. Fuck, I forgot about the green lights and the blue lights. I love this console. Again, my first console.

I love this console dearly. I think it's a gorgeous console. I cried during Astrobot Playroom, playing it, replaying it again this week. But I don't think it is the best console here. I think that the GameCube or the PlayStation, I can go either or. I think the first PlayStation is a stronger-looking console.

So I'm not going to necessarily debate, not S-tier, but I'm not going to, I'm going to debate that it's the first console. That's our best console here. I'm going to give you a real hot take for it. I think, like, my least favorite thing about it is the size and placement of that PS2 logo. Sure. For as sick as the logo is, with it also having a gradient from, like, this purple to a blue, you know, that's exactly my shit.

I just never felt like it fully utilized the space. I don't, yeah, it felt kind of like it's weird, tacked on and added on. Oh, interesting. I actually, I actually like that a lot. That's probably my favorite part of the console is how big the PS2 logo is on it. But I just, I love the PS1 so much comparatively, just because it is doing something so unique. And also, I think it's like, it's just a cooler looking console. Like, I know I'm not bringing like anything super substantial.

I know these are all vibes. But like, I love looking at the PlayStation 1 more. And I would say that that's, that's, that's, I like it more than the PS1, but I don't like it as much as the GameCube. Yeah, I'm with Barrett right there. The PS2 to me is like just pretty much as peak as you can get where it's just so simple. It's clean as hell. It's cool as hell. and it's black.

We're not doing this weird gray shit. We're going black. And the gradient of that blue is just so sexy. And there's the right amount of blue everywhere. The little blue rectangle on the bottom left of the console. The double-deckerness of it all. Just the how you go with the grid system. And like Greg was saying, the turnible PlayStation logo,

being the correct PlayStation logo colors just there. This thing is art. It's why. Like right now we're, for me at least, we're getting to that top of the MCU section where it's like, Yeah, but this movie's ending was incredible. The other movie's ending, like, beginning was so amazing. Like, I could be kind of, I could put this wherever at this point.

I think those three consoles are so damn good looking. We're going to keep going. The blue light is so good. Like, when you had both those lights on the same time, when you would eject the game and they would do, that they look so premium. Yeah, man. And the top of it, having all the little, like,

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We don't really fully know where PS2 was, but I'm assuming that's a very, very top, and I'm cool with that. Yeah, no, we do. That's running. I'll put it. It's a freaking good-looking console. I'll let you guys have this one. just this one though I appreciate that Raj that's big of you you know I'm excited to talk about the PS5

so the next up we have the Xbox 360 Xbox 360 Xbox 360 Xbox 360 so there was a lot of gens here though man this is where like

the I know that but so far we haven't been ranking the individual generation yeah I know the PS1 and the PS2 had their different sort of looks

and even the SNES like we were mentioning earlier but this is kind of where stuff started getting like really really buck wild and and this is where a lot of like different like opinions for mine changed depending on whichever one we're talking about. Yeah

no this is this is a weird one because I personally love the second or maybe third version of the Xbox 360, the all black one. Yeah this one's beautiful with the digital button and not the push it. Exactly which sucks sometimes because my cat would turn off my Xbox all the time but yeah but

This one, I enjoy the look of it. I think it is a very pretty console, especially with, like, the glowing green. Sometimes turning red. Yeah, fuck it. A lot of times turning red. So much, so many. 55% of them.

Oh, my God. I also love the, like, the memory card slot there. I think that's a memory card slot there, right? Yeah. It feels nostalgic. It feels old school. I know this is like right in the precipice, like in between.

That removable hard drive was really cool, too. That was also really solid. You know, I think there's so many things that, like, similar to a handle, you never use depending on your life, but being an IGN editor at this time, reviewing games, you're popping your hard drive off all the time to bring it to work to do stuff and then take it home. And the Chrome disc drive, um, I think this is an A tier. I think this is an A tier. It's a solid A tier. It's not an S tier for me.

If we're talking about the other black, uh, Xbox, I would put that S tier, but this is an A tier. I could easily go A here as well. Mid C. Mid C. Yeah. I'm with you, Tim. This is C. I don't like the other generations of the 360 are like A's, but this is you. That's wild to me. I love, all looks cheap. Got a little curvature going. I hate the curves.

Oh. I hate the color. White it is. We talked about it before of like, I agree with that part. You know, I think it was you saying for your friend with the Dreamcasts.

Yeah. Yeah. With the GameCube. Wanting it. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the same thing. I remember when the 360 launched

and I was still working in Columbia at the newspaper. And I remember Time magazine, I think, did a piece on it. It was Bill Gates holding it up and the logo, the power button was at his eye. And I was like, that's so cool. Like, I'm like, I actually want that.

I would say A T as well. I'm down to go A or high B or low A. You know, I'm going to stick B because I also love the inset logo. You were A before. I'm sorry. I'm going to go with A is what I meant to say. I love the inset logo up top that isn't like just a color thing. It is like built into the actual hardware of it.

I would put it at the end of it. The green circle not only super cool to look at, but the fact that it told you like that one and two players are connected, all that stuff is super sick. the silver tray I thought was a really awesome touch but a lot of it for me is like the roundness of the ports and the buttons just always having kind of like a round bezel

not bezel but you're always kind of like getting them illustrator handles to get them round edges I love that shit I hate how cheap it looks though like the shiny of the disc tray like if that was like a metal I'd be way more into it it looks like cheap plastic and I get what you're saying about the color of white right because I think right now we're looking at it

and looks really beautiful but then Yeah, that's like an off-white type of genus. So I would put it at the bottom of A as well. I want to give a shout to Comrade Serpent. Genesis is just sitting there haunting this list. Yeah, man. What are we doing? I love the fucking gals.

I love how, like, what? It's a beautiful fucking console. So yeah, I guess. Yeah. Above the original Xbox. This should not be below Genesis. I mean... I mean, we can do a perch.

We're doing a perch. We'll figure it out the ending. Prune. Prune. Perch. Then after that, we have... Perch console edition. The Wii.

The Nintendo. we. Uh-oh. Greg's looking at it. It's an ass, baby. What? The we? I mean,

it's high. Aesthetically, it's just something we had never seen before. The blue light in the tray. Fucking clean. And yeah, you look at this, that's fine.

But remember what it was like to come into your house? I remember like a Christmas morning coming down to get a cup of coffee and it was still dark. And like, it was over there just glowing blue and going on.

And I was like, oh, that's so fucking sick. And it was small, but it's still cool. all these games. Like, you want to talk about nostalgia? Like, we would be nostalgic for me, where it was the first Nintendo home console I bought it launch.

You're going to get the one with the light on. You're going to get the one's light on. And it was the idea of me coming in and being like, not only am I jumping in, it's going to have this thing called the virtual console where I can play all these games I've missed. And it's going to be this, you know, new form of control.

But at any point, you can turn it to the side and play like an old, and I know we're on. Yeah, I'm not bringing in. The gloss? Yeah, of course, flip the top and you have the game. You're right. Yeah, that's part of the conversation. And also they're hidden until they're revealed.

There's the little M. Oh, my God. Yeah, no, this is, uh, this shit was so fucking hot. This is either like super high A or low S for me. Like I, the more and more I look at this damn thing, the more and more I find to love about it. The angular nature of it. It's as bad. The fact that that little slot next to the CD drive, which again, the CD drive

having that light of blue is just the coolest shit ever. But the fact that all the eject buttons, power, and reset all lined up with that sort of left little section. I just, I love the angular nature of it. I love that it's beveled on the left side. And the kind of wrap around buttons, just a little bit. That's just kind of add to it. Yeah, no, this is, that's the thing. This thing has angles, but it's also just clean.

This was the Wally. This was the, the EVE sort of like, yep, console. I love the glossy white. I go, I go so small. It was so small. I put this above GameCube, but below the PlayStation's. Um, sorry, above GameCube and below the PlayStation's. Uh,

Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't argue. I won't argue. I can rock with that. I think the blue light is what does it for me. It's such a good light. All night. Then we have the PlayStation 3. The big one.

The big old beefy barbecue grill. I hate this thing. They're like, hey, what if we took the PS2? That looks amazing and just made everything about it worse. A worse color black. A worse color glossy look to it. A worse logo. This thing sucked.

The shape of it was horrible. We're talking about it. We're talking about the silver-lined one, so it was backwards compatible, and it had all the memory card. Because you could put a compact flash. Just a heads up. You put a compact flash in there and get whatever you wanted. Spider-Man. Spider-Man.

Fun training? Come on. What are we talking about? Yeah, I never owned one of these, so I'm going to kind of relent to you guys. Because, like, in terms of renders, it looks sick as fuck. Like, I remember watching these, I'm like, the 240P YouTube videos. I'm going to be like, man, I got to get one of these. This is the future.

But, like, in terms of owning it and looking at it, like, I, yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, This is whatever to me. I think it's a D. I would top D list, top of the D. And I know I'm, I do feel like I am greeting against a curve because I think Sony's hardware always looks so damn good

and I think that this is like a massive miss for them. I'm glad that I never had this one. I bought the slim that came out a little while later, which way more basic looking, but it's matte and it was just a lot nicer looking. That was my, I bought that as well when they finally dropped the price

and did a redesign. That was, I had this. The inset logo on the top of it. I had it. Yeah, that's way that. The slim was great.

This PS3, of course, I had at work, both a test unit and a real unit, and I would lug it back and forth rather than pay my own money for it. And that thing was so fucking heavy. I remember one time it broke my Superman bag and, like, it totally, like, dented in its bottom corner. All that was like, you know, aesthetic, so didn't do anything. My friend Christian and Justin's camped out at Best Buy and they bought two of them. I was like, man, you guys are going to be so rich. Because they want to just like sell them. It was so awesome.

Everybody did that. I think that was like the first time I heard of like a console being flipped. Yeah. Did they make money on it, though? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they definitely, like, resold it for sure. That was the thing I talked about time.

Because you couldn't get them anywhere. When I covered, no, that was the problem because everybody bought them to flip them. At least around us. I did an article of the paper for launch night, and I was out in front of BestPel. And I did like, hey, how many people are actually going to play this? And of like the 30 people lined up one person put their hand. Oh, shit, really. And I was flipping.

That sucks. After the PlayStation 3, we have, we're not going to do the Stadia. Oh. We have the Xbox One. Xbox on fucking F tier Fuck this console Fuck this console

And I maybe it's a principal thing But it's just like This is just It's pretty in its simplicity But I think it's just so Fucking boring And it does not invite me to play Whatsoever

It doesn't have the cool aspect of it right Like I look at Xboxes in the past And it's like Well you guys are really doing something This has none of that personality At all It being vented like Dana Barrett's a refrigerator

Or cabinets in Ghostbusters You couldn't even make it vertical That's my problem is the vents I feel like and also the the mat to shiny ratio it's off I would not go that low though I don't think that there's anything I think I just have I'm trying to rip my nostalgia away but I have to rip my hatred away as well

like it's hard for this to me is like high C maybe low B low I go I go mid C I think it's a solid if we're gonna do this I feel like it's D I would have brought it to D I would put it to D and I would have put it behind PS3 in front of Saturn I think it's just not doing anything right It's just the most boring, safe choice that's like,

I want to put it on an F just to be like, no, you didn't even try. You didn't even fucking try. It's the black version of the CDI. Where do we put the CDI? We put it out of D.T. Yeah, okay. Put it below the Phillips CDI. That's kind of crazy.

Yeah, that's a wild. Like, it has a light up button that would turn on. Like, that shit was cool. Yeah. Made one more thing. The, like, again, I don't think it does anything offensive, though. It's boring as hell. I'll give you that.

Yeah. But nothing about it makes me go, ugh, I fucking hate this thing, you know? That's true. My whole thing with it was, when we said Xbox 1, I had that moment where I went there and it was just file not found. I feel like that's how unremarkable this entire system was like, wait, what is this thing look like? So where are we, where we lean in towards then? I was voting, I don't know where we are, votes wise.

I was going to vote D and put it behind PS3 in front of Saturn. I would put it above PS3 because I don't look at anything at the Xbox and hate, and I look at the PS3 and hate a lot about it. But you're grading on a curve you already said, so you've been compromised. So I'm cool with that. Then I'll put it at C then. I'll put it behind Hold on this thing's fucking better

than the Magnivox Odyssey And better than the Atari Jaguar And better than the Neo Geo And the 7800 It's not better than the Dreamcast But it's better than the 64 I mean we already put the PlayStation 3 down there

And I would argue legitimately That the PS3 is a better looking console The PS3 is an atrocity No PS3 is not an atrocity It's ugly and you just have something against ugly people Don't you hate how like, you know,

Roger nowadays just wants to call people ugly. All right, so we are, I'm saying C. Should we just go low C? I would go C and put it before the 64 or after the 64. Chat, I mean, is it a C or a D? I'm down to go above the 64, but I'm fine at a one's there. What are you guys? I think it's ID.

I think it's D and I think it's below the PS3. C's half. The 64 reminds me a lot of the PS3 where there's a lot that I hate about it as well and I don't hate anything about this thing So under then 64 above the Atari Wow Okay boom Okay, Genesis way up there

Fucking hate that Then we have the Xbox one X And that's an iteration I feel No but that's like now we're getting to like the pros Yeah I feel like this is that But is that not different I think those are different consoles as opposed to like just the iterations of the things But they're not the same console just

a little bit better. But what's important to know the Xbox 1S is an S-tier console baby. This thing is perfect. It's the definition of we're going to just design clean. We don't need personality.

This thing's just what it needs to be, exactly what it needs to be. The perfect balance of white and black. You said S-tier? No, he's not this one. He's saying the S is S-tier. Oh, gotcha. I would say the S is S-tier

and the X is either A or B for me. I'm right there with you. I think this is a solid-in. We're talking about the S-3. right now. The S of X. I don't know. That's un-losted. They showed that, but then you said this or I'm saying S right now. The white one. Yeah, the white one. Okay. And you want to put it where? That goes S here for me. Uh-huh. I think the Xbox series S is a better looking console,

in my opinion. So that's what that... Big circle of the black. Yeah, I like that. I like the contrast with it. So that's why I won't go for that as the S. I would say that that is a low A and then I would give the X of higher A. If that makes sense. All I'm saying is if we're ranking this one, I feel like we should have gone back and ranked the other 360s and shit for the S specifically. Yeah, but these are different skews specifically. But the other ones didn't change in power. This one, these did.

No, the S didn't, I thought. The X did, but the S didn't. Well, the S just became like the, I guess like the, the newer version, which I guess, yeah, is kind of a variant. But, like, I don't think you can rank the X without the S. I think it just kind of has to be that way. That's interesting. That's interesting.

Also, the other generations of like 360s, Roger, were also technically different skews. They were different skews, but they, like, this, you weren't buying this one for... For this one, I would say... A. Or whatever. Makes sense. You would say what? A.

A for the S? Yeah. I'll go with that, too. To me and Andy say S. Yeah, I freaking love this thing, dude. Chat, what are you all saying? S or A? It's...

It's like the perfect area of other consoles look so basic that I don't like them. one looks so basic that I love it. A, A, A, A, A's haven't. No, they don't. It's very mixed. Barrett, what do you say? No, I agree. I feel like we're getting a lot of mixed B's and S's, but it's a lot of A's. Why I love this is what reminds me of why I love an upcoming console of the PS4.

I love just like that two-tone nature of the, the grading with the, um, with the sort of solid side on the other, like it's, it's so clean, bro. So it's top of A. Top of it. Top of it? Top of it? Yep. I'll roll him.

Then we have the Xbox 1X. I think it's the better looking console than the S. Not a chance. The 1X would go bottom A for me. It's a slim looking version. I mean, I love this thing. It looks so fucking pretty. It lacks the style that the PS2 has.

This is all of it needs to be. It's all of the right shapes. This is like all of the right sizes and proportions of rectangles. that needed to be done to make a console just look sleek enough and it's so basic and I fucking love it for that. Me too. This is low A for me.

Low A or high B. End of A for me. Oh, well, no, you know what? This goes over the Genesis for me for fucking short. But not over the one of us. No. Interesting.

Because I love the half-tone nature of the one-ass and the white with the black. So we're putting it. Bottom A? Yeah, but... Below the 360. I'd bump it up I'd bump it up one

there we are I was good to man yeah I'm tired 2600 what are you doing here it's beautiful it's beautiful to move it up

try to move it up one I told you we'd feel this one yeah um and then we have the the the WiiU I hate this fucking thing

again this reminds you the WiiU is the PS3 of the we situation where it's like oh hey we had an amazing thing with the previous one let's just fuck it up in every way possible

I hate the Wii. It's going... And I never think about the console itself, right? You always think about the actual, you know, controller, but you look at the console, it's like, I don't like this all. I think about it too much. I'd put it F personally, but... Yeah, honestly, I think...

I can go to the F-tier. It's an offensive console. Totally down to it. It's no V-tricks, but... I think it's that bad. F for... Like, I don't think it's that bad. But here's my thing.

I think it is because of how much it fucked up how S-tier the Wii was. Like, I feel like you get rid of the GameCube ports, you add all these curbs that are unnecessary. And it's clearly not the focus, right? Like they put the focus on the actual controller. So this feels like an afterthought in every single way. It does look like kind of an add-on.

I would put that a D for me or some shit. Because remember, like, we have the 3-O. We have the TurboGraphic 16, the Channel F, the Vectrix. There's no way this thing goes below the CDI by Phillips. It's funny because we just voted and it did. It goes above. The floor, sir. goes above the PS3.

Think about it. Look at what, without just saying the thing, look at the PS3. Yeah. No. Fucking shapeless little box, nobody cared about it.

No. That's the bottle of D tier. I'll relate to the bottle of PS3, but just like look at what else we have in D tier and then look at F tier. No way it goes below the sad. Because I feel like we're getting our personal feelings in the way of like what the Wii you did to the Wii brand in general and how much of a flop it was of just an idea.

Thank you. I'm talking about the design. No, because it's the design of the we where it's like you can have it vertical. You can have it on the side. Like, there was so much versatility there, and they took that away because of the stupid curves. I'm not, the design of the Wii U is, it's worse. I love how, I love how compact it is.

And, Barry, if you could just bring up an image. But it's not, it's a chunker. If you could just bring up the little thing? The little fucker? The Wii, compared to the Wii? Are you talking about the, but we're not comparing it to the Wii. We're just comparing it to how it looks on its own. I don't care that the Wii was way better.

The CDI. Look at the Intellivision. Look at the Sega Saturn. That thing sucks. The Philip CDI sucks. sucks even more. There's no way that this little tiny, black, sleek glossy box, now I'm acting like it's the

coolest thing ever. Yeah. But like, come on, it's not worse than those things. I would put at the bottom of D tier. I love the compactness of it. Put a handle on it, A-Rang. That's true. That's true. That it invites play. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

So what are we doing? F or D? I'm fine with D. We already voted. It's F. Top of the F tier. It's done. We've moved on. I think that's fun. We didn't vote. We didn't. We voted.

Well, I mean, I'm already drafted my tweet here. Andy filibustering. All right. Take a Saturn, man. That thing sucks. It's a good place. Then we have. The switch.

No, yeah, we're not doing the Uya. Like. Switch is hard. It would be pretty high. You know what I mean? It's a nice little console. Switch is a weird one. So it's cool if you have like cool joycoms.

Yeah. But they give you that option. Like, that's part of the whole thing, you know? Yeah. But if we're going to grade, like, we graded the N-64 on the base look. you know, if we're grading the switch, like we got to think about the base dock and then the base either gray joycons

or the red and blue ones. I hate the dock. I love the blue and red joycons. I love the saturation and brightness of them. But man, that dock is ugly as hell. And when they came out with the second version of the dock, much cooler and sleeker. But it's still not awesome looking.

And we also have to talk about like the functionality of it all. I know we're not talking about the actual things that it's doing on the screen, but like the fact that boom, you're playing a thing, right? And also the tactile feel of sliding it in. I think this is a really solid top of B maybe or even A. Top of B.

Wow. But this is what we're judging, what we're seeing on screen right now. A docked switch. And I love the, and I love the blue and red joycons. I think that's great. It pops. It's simple. It's sleek.

It does, specifically because it's going for something so different, like the hybrid handheld and home console. Like, I think it does a really great job. I think the dock lowers it more for me But I would put this in the B somewhere I just I think those joicons like so Damn fucking cool

The shapes chosen for the buttons The roundness of everything I'd probably go somewhere in C I would say C as well And I feel like I'm I'm behind on the argument here Because if it's docked like this You're talking about the controllers

But the controllers would be in your hand So wouldn't they We wouldn't be talking about the controllers anymore based on how we talked about it before. Pro controller. Yeah, or I mean, if they were popped off. Yeah, if they're on but using a pro controller, then it's just the visuals of this,

at which point I feel like it just looks like a charging station. I don't know. Don't me wrong. The switch is a handheld, fucking goaded, and there's a different conversation to have there about everything. But we're talking specifically as the home console variation. And we're talking about ranking consoles and it being a console,

I think it's a great. That's a great point. Yeah, but see, but my thing there is, like, I feel like it displays, displays better than a lot of the other ones.

Like, being able to change out the joycons and have it be like, like somewhere because it has to be stood up, it is in a different place in your home entertainment system. Like, I think it looks nicer than a lot of the modern consens. And if you dropped the JoyCon and your spaghetti and you got sauce all over there, it would look,

the JoyCon would look uglier. That's true. We're getting too semantical with all this. You're right. To see, we have the votes. Let's move. I, I, I, I like this. No, I like this. Are you going to call to ask for more votes in Virginia? Listen, we were done. We had solved what we were arguing about. And you're like, well, I'm going to fill her bust you more.

It goes from an F to a Dina. I like Greg's argument where if potentially this episode does well and we do another episode with handhelds, we redo it again. Because I think it would be a way higher version of it on handheld. But as a home console, I don't know. I put it below the N64 and above the Xbox one. Okay. It's clean and simple in its execution of what it's trying to do. I'm going with it.

And it's the clicking noise. Yeah. Switch. That's the key. Then yeah, we do have the Oya, which. It's a cool. design. It was a cool idea. It was a cool idea. It was a cool idea. Like just a little square little thing that you just kind of lived there and it was like for, I don't know, it was a cool

idea. It looked like you would put like pot-reie slots in there. Is it gonna make it? I don't love it. I would probably give it a D-tier if I really think about it, but I just like the novelty of it. I give it enough. Yeah, this, this to me is like pretty much as low as you get. Like I, yeah, it doesn't. I mean, it's no, it looks like it's upside out. Yeah, never mind. Now the more I look at it. Yeah. Let's go out. Yeah, fuck the Oia. But where in the F. Where in the F? I'll put it a second to last. I like the font.

Oh, they said wearing the F. Like, we're going to find it. We're going to find it. We're out there. I'm going to put it on there. There we go. I like that. Then we get into some good ones, baby.

The PlayStation 4. You want to talk about two tier, two tone. That glossy top thing for no reason. This is S is all fucked. This is S is all fucked. This is as all fuck. The blue line down the middle. Yeah.

Holy shit. Yeah. Orange when she's sleeping. God, yeah. Don't wake if she's sleeping. This is like, I think this is maybe the best looking console ever. Wow.

Wow. I love this fucking thing. Look at it. Look at that. Again, simple in design, right? Not a lot going on, but it has the iconic Sony logo like you're talking about. The iconic PlayStation logo,

the PlayStation 4 logo. It would be much more boring if they didn't have the tilt. But the fact that that's there, it makes it so much more interesting. It's the two-tone, bro. I will say the, someone brings it up in chat,

of the practicality, the on-off button and how slim it is next to the eject button was always very annoying. Definitely a problem. Yeah, and I also did not like the vents in the back

because it was hard to me to figure out where my HTML was always going because I always put another thing. So like, I know that that's part of this, right? I think that's every console, though. But like, specifically the fact that it was like square almost. Like, I don't know.

I would always like touch it and like go to different places. It was never, it was never intuitive. Um, I would think this is high A for me. I don't think this is S2. It's not my favorite PlayStation console. I look at the other S tier consoles here. And I'm like, yeah, it's, I think it's a lesser PS2 in my opinion. So that's my problem is.

I think it's S tier. Um, but I think that it doesn't hit the highs of the PS2 or the we in what they're going for. It's kind of combining both of those. Yeah. But I, yeah, I would put it, um, I'd put this above the GameCube. I can get down with that behind Wii above GameCube

I can get down with that Then we have Damn attractive cons I'll tell you what Let's jump over to Are you doing the pros or no You want it? I mean we did the 1S

Yeah that's the 1S I don't want to I'm just saying I think We should do the pro PS4 Because I want to say something I fucking hate this console I don't know It's like a D or C for me

I hate the PS4 pro I don't like the fact that it looks like a Photoshop job We just put two of them on top of them. It's pro. It's ugly as hell. It became a meme because of that. Yes. It sucks.

I don't think it's that big of a problem. I agree that it's like nowhere near that as cool as the others. But I don't think this is like a we to Wii to Wii you type situation. I would put this at probably just like a C because it's inoffensive. I'm done to go see. Yeah, I just I really don't like what they did with it. I thought they could. I bet you on the cutting room floor there were way cooler versions.

Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'm down to sea as well. I would say behind the 7800 in front of the Neo Geo. I would personally put it below the PS3, but, you know, my vote doesn't matter. Yeah, I'm with Greg here. Below the Atari. Yeah.

Good job. Then we got the... There's so many handheld you guys. You're into orange. I think the next one is the series S. The Xbox Series S. which I enjoy, Roger and I would talk about this a second ago here. I love it. I love how small it is.

I just do not love the big black circle. I think that this is just a less attractive version of the Xbox 1S. Oh, I love my little guy. See, I think he's more attractive personally. I like the personality of him. I like how tiny he is. I got the all black one at my desk. I was just updating today for some stuff.

I would put a top of A personally. I agree with that as well. And I think we're going back to it's not an X, right? It's not an X for an Xbox. but I like the circular nature with the logo of the Xbox. I think it's solid. I think that's a, that's a,

that's a, see, I get where you're going with there, Roger, but then design the like X into the circle or something. Sure. It just, it looks so weird and awkward

and how it's like, I don't know. Every time I look at this thing, I'm like, what the fuck are they going? The fact that it's not a speaker. Yeah. Right.

It looks like it should be a speaker. I go bottom A, not fully bottom A, but like towards the bottom of A. I like it. I like it, but I, I don't love it.

I'd put it somewhere like in B or low, you know, like maybe low B for me. Yeah, you know what? Looking at this, the bottom of B, under the Super Nintendo.

Yeah, thousand percent. Oh, yeah, this is the perfect question for it. Yeah. Below S&ES above Dreamcast. Now we have the Xbox Series X,

the tower. Let's try something different, y'all. Did it pay off? No. No. No. It did not.

It really did not. It really did not. Unexciting system. That just sits there, which they all do. It's just... It's just... It's disruptive. To me, it's just such a weird choice. I mean, we can talk about, like,

going from Xbox 1 to this. And I was like, I was so sure that they were going to try something a little bit different, a little bit more exciting, but they did not. Anytime... Yeah, whatever. Anytime I see images of this thing Photoshop, where there's green at the top, almost kind of like emitting from... I love that. I want that reality, but that isn't the reality.

One of them has that. But, like, no, but like lights. like, it has painting or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, this is, I don't know,

this is kind of one of those inoffensive ones to me. I just don't love it at all. This would be like C for me, probably. Yeah, doesn't make me angry like the Xbox one

that I put it at C as well. The problem with this one for me is that it's just the design of it, the shape of it gets in the way of the places you're putting it. Like,

it does not look good next to the other things. And even when you put it on its side, it just seems wrong. It takes up an inappropriate amount of space. So I think because of that function problem, like, it's pretty

damn low to me. I would, I put it top of D. Wow. I'm firmly in the middle of C. I can in no good conscience put this below the Atari Jaguar. That's true. That's a good call. Maybe not even the Neo Geo, but I'd put it low

C somewhere. I think below the PlayStation Pro. Yeah. No. See, I put it above the pro and below the 7,800. Yeah. That's wild. I like, no, I like this. I like the buffer between the Xbox one in the Atari. I just,

yeah, I just like the buffer. There's enough space that I feel comfortable. Yeah, exactly. I feel good about this. What do you guys feel? Yeah, I'm good with that. I think it's a good software.

C rank for Xbox Series X. Then we got PlayStation 5. The best looking console as voted by the kind of funny audience. I think just on that we don't have to vote.

The people have spoken, put it in this. It's an S tier, everybody. It is an S-tier. It is a beautiful fucking console. I love my play. Station 5 so much. I love looking at it. I have an all-white entertainment center, of course, like you do. I

think it's gorgeous. I love the lights bleeding from it. It is a spaceship of a console, and I'm happy that they're doing it an astrobot. I'm happy that they're making that an actual spaceship, because it is a gorgeous design, and I was so blown away by the actual reveal of it. I'm happy to have it in my home entertainment system, and I

can't believe that people fucking hate this console. I really can't believe it. This does so much that I should love, and I just don't love the shapes that they went with. The aspect of everything that put together to the console fucking phenomenal. The two tones, the blue lights, everything on paper looks like I should love this thing.

But it's the shapes, it's the lips that they chose. It's a burger trying to eat something in the middle. It's needing the freaking stand. And here's what I'll say. The reissue, the slim version of the reissue with that slit down the center, I love that so much more. If that was the main one, I would have said... Because you know what that's bumping off

of Vandy is the PS4. Yeah, that little slit down the little center. This is like a... I don't hate this one much as I say that I do, but I don't like it. And I would say this is probably around a C for me. Any way you want to put it, you need that fucking stand. Like, you need to put the stand if you want to put it sideways. Because the fucking, the side panels, like, feel too flimsy to just have it rests on its own.

Well, it's also a ventilation thing, yeah. Yeah, it's like, ventilation as well. That's what it is. The way it's designed, it's just so awkward and weird. Like, I don't... I'm not offended by it, but it's just like, oh man, we could have done so much better here. I don't mean to derail the conversation. I'm gonna be completely honest, y'all.

I've never used that vertical stand and I just didn't know until just now that I needed it so I just think, God. Jesus, fuck. And it looks way better, y'all. It looks way better. So maybe that's where my S-tier's coming from. But yeah, no, I love this console. This goes towards the bottom of B for me.

Like this is above the Xbox series S, but this doesn't touch the Super Nintendo or NES or Xbox, I think. They made the right choice with the slim version to give it smaller lips. Them lips are just so, them labias are gigantic up there, man. I don't like the way it looks. No, it looks like it looks like a pop. collar almost. I think it's sick. I think it's sick looking.

I love that it has an identity. Me too. I love that it made these choices. I love that it's fucking weird and stuff. I personally, it is so big, which I also appreciate. I do. I do. Yeah. Not me on. It doesn't matter to me. It doesn't get in the way of my home entertainment. The only time it annoyed me was when I couldn't bring it on

planes easily. But now I got it. So why do you like it being big then? It's a statement piece for the house. Yeah. I'm not even joking. I think I like that they liked it and made it fucking weird. No, you're right. That's exactly how I feel. Like it is, it is like the center of my entertainment center. They were like, we know this is going to be the console of the generation, make it weird as

fuck and put it there, make people stare at it and make it look like nothing we've done before and all these different things. It feels like a big dick move going from the PS4 to this one. They're like, no, we know you're going to buy this one and we want it to fucking everyone to look at it when you join the thing. It feels snobby in a way that I just don't like. What I really, what I really don't like is where we're going to be able to put this thing because it is going to be so close to Super Nintendo and it doesn't belong there.

like it doesn't belong near where like if it sounds like wherever this net's out it's probably going to be like the bottom of B tier I would put this at the top of C tier above Dreamcast I'm cool with that I think this is this is better than the 360 so I put it A below the 1X movie if you and this is me like I truly believe it's an S

but if we're if we're playing the game here and I would get behind Roger and do that I go with him A above 360 so it's either going to be A above 360 or top of C. Chat, sound off A or C. Or Barrett's a tiebreaker.

Also, too many people say that they have fucking cool routers. You don't have a cool router that looks like this, okay? You keep on saying router, rotter, rotter, rotter. You don't have a fucking awesome router like this. It sounds like you're lashing out. You wish, you wish.

You wish chat. It's moving. Congratulations. Thanks for everybody to watch it and hang out with us. It does seem actually pretty split. It's split with a bunch of different things. Toss some poles in there. Oh, can we do a poll?

Yeah. I can do a YouTube one, Barrett if you want to do a Twitch one. What are the options that were? A or C. A or C. Do we, I mean, do we split the difference? No.

No, I don't feel good about that. We've done it for other ones. No, but this one, this was important. This one, yeah, this one. This is everything. At one time, Greg put, this is what I made this episode. Hold on, no.

At one point, Greg said, throw it a bear, you're the tiebreaker, and now he's on the tiebreaker because he knows Bear doesn't like it. That's not. No. No. No.

At some point, we did deviate to chat, and so I want to keep it back on that. But then other times we did. Yeah, it's the tiebreaker. Hey, fucking pick a lake! I'm not hosting the show, all right, I don't know. I want the voice of the people for this one. So I want to see where we're at.

YouTube chat is up, it's going. It is going now. How the fuck is Genesis that night? It belongs there. Genesis is a beautiful console. You look at it. You look at it real close. It's just a magnifying glass, really look at it.

As the shots going right now, we do have the A rank winning at 58%. That's on YouTube. Are you doing a Twitch run, Barrett? Yes, uh, the A rank is currently winning at 52%. There you go. There we go. I mean, I feel like that's enough for me. I feel good about it. I feel happy. So we're putting it A above 360.

Above the 360. I agree with that. Below the Xbox 1X. That's a lot of me. Oh, it's 50-50. Hold on. Hold on. Once again, we're going to talk about it. C is winning 80 to 91.

Oh, now A just took the lead, 91, now C took lead to 92, 91. On YouTube, he's never looked down. It's close. It's not close anymore. Yeah, but, you know, I mean, you read the comments so that they say a lot of me things about me too. So here we have. I'm just glad it's not an S tier. We have our list, everybody.

From S tier to F tier, every single console ranked by looks. Read them off, Tim. At number one, S tier, we have PlayStation 2, and then PlayStation 1, the Nintendo Wii, PlayStation 4, and GameCube. I ain't mad at it at the end of the day.

That's a solid one. A tier, we have the Xbox 1S, the Sega Genesis, the Atari 2,600, the Xbox 1X, the PlayStation 5, and the Xbox 360. I feel good. I feel okay. I feel okay.

Beattier, the original Xbox, the NES, the S-N-E-S, and the Xbox Series S. C-tier, the Dreamcast, the Nintendo 64, Nintendo Switch, docked, the Microsoft Xbox 1, the Atari 7800, the Xbox Series X, the PlayStation 4 Pro, the Neo Geo, the Jaguar, and the Magnus X. Vox Odyssey D tier PlayStation 3 Saturn CDI in television telestar Colitron master system Commodore 64 Pong the Atari 5200 the Nintendo Wii U you and then F tier the 3dio I think sucks the Turbo Graphics 16 the Klico Vision the channel F oohya and V yeah man oh yeah who's on this episode I want each one of us what's up the beginning of the thing that

we could prune. Yeah. And that because I was the founder of the channel, I can move one thing up if I wanted to. We said, because I just want to take the PSP go. The PSP go to the top of the answer. What I want to end with is each one of us. It's not going to affect the list,

but if there was one change you would be able to make, just one change, what would it be? It's the easiest change in my life as in Genesis being anywhere close that to the top. See, do I go with a love or do I go with hate? And I'm going to go with hate. Xbox 1 F dear.

Fuck that console. And I would take Genesis to the S-rank. I wouldn't even be mad at that. But no, no, no. You can do it right now. No, I like the list where it is. That would be awesome.

Prude. Prude. The genesis is surrounded by it. I get what you're saying. Thank you, Barrett. The change. I got Barrett's vote. He's in the tiebreaker this whole process.

No, I was saying I'm with Andy. I'm saying I was with Andy. No, shut you. Myx's cutting out. It's okay. It's with us. The thing that upsets me most about this list is the Magnivox Odyssey. That thing should be lower.

That thing should be way fucking lower. No, because here's the thing. I look at the Odyssey and if you were to ask me, will Tim love this or hate this? I'd say he'd love it. But that's the thing. You look at it here. It's like, oh, Tim would love it. But then you see the actual picture and it's not black.

It's brown. Honestly, and with the Odyssey, it's like I look at that. I'm like, is that even a fucking console? At least with the PS3 with how poorly it's designed. I'm like, hey, that's a video game console. Yeah, but the PS3, it's like, you had all the power to do something. Southern 6 and you really, really

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