Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Ranking EVERY Nintendo 3D Platformer - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

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Yo, what's up? Welcome to the kind of funny games cast for Tuesday, July 15th, 2025. I'm one of your host's blessing, Adiae Jr., joining me is LaCroy Poppy, Tim, Ma, Valianty's. Oh, feels good. There's Nintendo in the air. There is. It's awesome. I love it. Obviously, we are preparing for the launch of Donkey Kong Bonanza in just a few short days. And everyone else is. It's awesome to see all the content creators that I follow doing Donkey Kong weeks and just celebrating Donkey Kong. It is our time. Barrett's running the show right now. It's being blessed on this.

This is awesome, man. The most important month of the year returns on Thursday, Donctober. Can we talk about our plan on Thursday? We can if you want. I mean, should we talk? Have we talked about our plans on Thursday? I guess we did during KHD because I was listening to it, right?

Oh, okay. Yeah, this Thursday, the most important year of the month returns. Sorry, the most important month of the year returns. It's a state of mind. It's a people. It's a place. Exactly. We're doing Donctober this Thursday with me, Barrett.

And Tim, he's joining us to Doc. I am very excited about this. Because the game is out on Thursday, right? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Launched. Launch day.

Tomorrow night at 9 p.m. I think is one of the unlocks. Wow. Wow. And so we're playing on Thursday. Damn. Because here's the thing, right? I told Baird, I was like, I want to be playing my copy. Yeah.

Because I want to spend as much time with this game as possible. But that now means that I'm going to have to wait until Thursday to play the game. I mean, between you and me, do you want to wait until Thursday? Or do you want to, do you want to be the one who, plays tomorrow night and then we play on mine on Thursday. I'll wait until Thursday. Okay. All right.

I just wanted to give you the out. I wanted to get, if you couldn't wait. I don't wait until like the afternoon, but I can wait. Okay. All right. Can I wait? Can I wait? I think you can wait.

I think you can do it. God, I love it. Oh, yeah. We got some fun plans for Thursday. I'm really excited. It's going to be really fun time. But remember, this is the kind of funny games cast where each and every weekday, we run you through the nerdy news.

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watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show. Like, can I physically wait a whole day before getting my hands on? We'll see. I don't know. I'm giving you the out. That's tough. We'll see. Let me wait. Let me get it. Let's see. Let's see. Because it's

tomorrow night, right? Tomorrow night at 9 p.m. What I had to do is I have to find something else to occupy my time. Maybe I finally deep dive into Delta Rune or something. Well, something that you could do unless you've already done it is our plan now that we haven't actually talked about is on Friday, you and I are going to kind of do an unofficial review. I don't think we need to score it or anything, but a discussion of the Astrobot challenge levels. Oh, yeah, we are, yeah.

All the speed run levels and all just the challenge levels that they've been dropping over the last couple months. I did four out of five of the speed run ones as they dropped, and then I didn't touch any of the challenge ones yet. So where are you at with all this? I have done most of them. I only have like three levels left. But I could go back. Honestly, like I would place some of them as they dropped.

So since we're talking about it on Friday, I could use a refresher. So maybe I do do the thing where like I'd go through and I repeat everything just so I can be fresh with the conversation. You should do that too, everybody. In the spirit, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people have been. playing Donkey Kong. But if you don't have a Switch 2 and you do have a PS5, play through the Astrobot

things in the next couple of days and then join us Super Chat on Friday for your thoughts. This is a whole week about 3D platformers. God, it feels good. Yeah, right?

I would just think about it, man, I'm just like, damn, so last year, game of the year was a 3D platformer Astropod, right? This year, we're days away from Donkey Kong.

We don't know. Right now we're doing an episode called the best Nintendo platformers of all time, 3D platformers. Is that entire hierarchy of power about to shift and change? Could you imagine?

We could only hope. Man, here's the thing, right? I believe in DK. Yeah. But like, could DK shake up the 3D platform? Well, we got to have a conversation about the 3D platform hierarchy, actually. Well, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Yeah, we are.

We are. I have questions about the 3D platform hierarchy. How many 3D platformers are there actually to talk about? But we'll get there in a second. For a chance of part of the show, of course, you can submit your thoughts and opinions as YouTube superchats as we go. Housekeeping, you we're in a love in person business all about live talk shows kfdd right before this was about fallout five being greenlit after this roger challenges andy to call of duty if you're a kind of

funny member today's gregway is a q and a then later today is our happy hour for our twenty five dollars supporters thank you to our patreon producers delaney the psalm twining carl jacobs and omega buster i have uh one housekeeping thing i want to add because i got the email that i can officially talk about this now. Barrett, I just sent assets a picture if you could bring it up. This is very, very exciting for me and hopefully you, if you're going to be in San Diego next week at Comic-Con, your boy,

Tim Getty is hosting the Marvel Cosmic Invasion Comic-Con panel. I am incredibly excited about this. It's going to be awesome. We're going to have some of the voice actors from the game and some just the devs. It's going to be great. If you're there, please join us. It's going to be a blast.

And I'm stoked. I've never hosted a Comic-Con panel. So, in fact, It's a Marvel one for a game that I'm very excited about. Super excited. Very, very, very cool. So yeah, Thursday, July 24th at 445. If you're going to Comic-Con, come through. Come through.

Man, panels are back. That's so fun. Hosting panels is such a fun time. And so, yeah, I'm happy for you. Dude, it's been a long, long time since I hosted a panel. Really? I got a PAC or anything like that. Yeah, I think it was South Park.

No. The fractured butthole. No. Yeah. In like 2017, 2018, I think. Yeah, long, pandemic, man. That's crazy. It just fucked everything up.

I've done a million panels, but like game panels. Yeah, like hosting and like talking to developers on stage. Dang. Well, there you go. Comic-Con happening soon. See all next week. Today we're brought to you by Shady Rays, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show.

Tots, tuts, tuts, tuts, tuts, tuts, tuts. A week ago on July. 7th, IGN posted an article titled Every Nintendo 3D platformer ranked. It was written by Ryan Guar at IGN. Okay, before we even get into this, as we often do, we have to just say the things we think are even going to be on the list.

Because what's interesting about this is what qualifies as a Nintendo 3D platformer. Should we get, should we get rid of the obvious answers? Because I wonder if this is a porn situation of you know it when you see it. Well, let's start. But it's hard to define. I think that we,

let's just go console by console. Okay. And then list which ones we think we'll make it, which ones we don't think make the cut. Is there a such thing as a 3D platformer on SNS? Or do we just start from Mario 64? Yeah, Mario 66. Is there anything like virtual,

virtual boy? No, I think, I think from Nintendo specifically, N64 definitely would be the start there. Okay, Mario 64. DK64. Yep. Since it's Nintendo 3D platformer, assume we're not doing banjo or anything like that right that's the thing i don't know if they're

going to count it or not i could see them i could see them counting it and being like even though it's not technically blah blah blah or i can this i jem what i'm about i jane i can see them doing an honorable mention or something like giving context if it has to be here but it's on the list you know what i know what you mean yeah it's a weird one where yeah like banjo it's it's purely third party right but it was exclusive on on ncc24 so like i could see it either way i don't think i'll be mad either way. Maybe I'll be a little bit mad if it is included. But like, yeah, I'm not super mad either way. Yeah, and it's like one of those weird ones where they published it as well, technically. Oh, did Nintendo publish banjo? That's what it says here, at least, for N64.

And yeah, because that's the thing, too, about like, but I don't know if that's technically, like, every game that comes out on N64, Nintendo has to be, like, labeled as a publisher or something like that. And DK64, I view it was a different thing because Nintendo's IP. Like, That is a, you, that is a Nintendo game. Yeah. That is, it's funny. Like, it's such a stupid distinction, but you're right. Yeah.

Like, Donkey Kong country, they're Nintendo games, even though they're made by rare. Like, if Capcom made a Zelda game, like they did. Yeah. Still, it's still a Nintendo game. Just because it's Zelda. But if Rare makes a rare game, it's not Nintendo. You know what I mean? So, okay.

So, yeah, no conquer, no banjo. We're talking about them, though. So we're aware they exist. Yeah. But, I mean, that brings, so. Are there other Nintendo? Because here's the thing, right? If he included banger all this stuff,

then we're talking about like Glover, then we're talking about like fucking shit that I don't think should be on the list. Yeah. For Nintendo developed 3D platformers, is the N64? That is it? Well, here's the thing that gets weird.

Uh-huh. Is there's the 2.5D ones that obviously I wouldn't count. But there's an argument to be made that Kirby and the Crystal Shards. Oh, I don't think so. I would put that in the same category as Yoshi's story.

I agree. also don't think it's that great of a game. I agree. But it's not best. It's every Nintendo 3D platformer, right? But like Kirby's not a 3D platform. We know. You know it when you see it.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you know Kirby and the Crystal Shards? Yeah. It's 3D assets. It has like, they like curve around sometimes. It's like a die. It's 2.5D.

I don't think they count it. Yeah. You making the Yoshi story argument like, yeah. Like that's also not a 3D platform. Yeah. But Kirby is a lot more 3D than Yoshi's story. Yes, that's fair. That is true.

Going through like the roster of characters in my mind. For Nintendo. Yeah, is it really just 4? 64. That's wild. Mario 64 and Don Kong 64. I think so. Because then if we're talking about Nintendo games, right?

It is like the Zelda's, which you wouldn't call those 3D platformers. Dr. Mario came to mind, which is very blatantly not a fucking platform. Yeah, like I think that's just it for the Ns 64. Like Diddy Kong race? Like none of these would make sense. Yeah. So then we hopped to the GameCube. Unless there's any Game Boy shit, which I don't think there is.

No. No. So Mario Sunshine? Sunshine, for sure. See, this is where I think things could get interesting because like, what do we call Luigi's Mansion? Not a platform. It's not popping at all.

Okay. There's no platform. What about Pickman? No, no. No? I don't know. Star Fox Adventures. No, that's a Zelda-like.

Interesting. Okay. I mean, definitively. Yeah, this is more clear cut than I imagine. What about the... Was there a three... There was a Wario. I was going to say, was there a 3D Wario game?

Wario... Dang. World. Vario World. Which is a game that I feel like... I've said this before, but like, that doesn't really exist. Yeah, that's one of those ones that feels very... I don't trust you.

That feels very lost the time. Wario, but I'll type it out Wario World just for the sake of it And I'll, you know what, I'll even put it below sunshine I'll even type it out below sunshine. Yeah, all right, we got sunshine. Yeah, there was no Donkey Kong. God, it's funny, it just feels like there's not.

That's what I was getting at at the beginning of like, what is the hierarchy of 3D platformers at Nintendo? Because I feel like it is mainly Mario. Yeah, there has to be something we're missing on GameCube, but maybe not. Kababs in chat says Metroid Prime and kebabs,

I just need you to time yourself out. I have a couple of that. Maybe then hop forward. Who we? Yeah. I mean, Galaxy 1,

Galaxy 2. I'm just going to put those, I should tear these up, but I'm going to put Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2 right above Mario 64. Yeah. Yeah, man.

Okay. I got Mario on the mind, man. Now, Super Paper Mario. Where do you land on that? No. I mean, the perspective changes. Yeah.

That's way more platformer than RPG. Yeah, but I would argue that the platforming isn't the challenge of the game. It's not the obstacle of the game. What is the obstacle of the game? It's like more puzzling. For the little, I did play a little bit of Super Paper Mario. And like, I think I remember it being pretty platforming, at least compared to Paper Mario. Also, I mean, that's a weird one because it's a weird one because it's,

it's 2D and it's 3D, you could switch between the two, but like, there's not enough 3D platforming for me to think it's a 3D platformer. I would argue it being a 2D platformer Elements. Like our RPG elements as 3D platforming elements. Yeah. Is she a little Kevin behind Barrett?

Yeah. He's hanging out. Oh, he's in there. I was like, what the fuck? How do we do this? I thought he was in the other room. Also, people in chat are getting mad at my 3D platform knowledge. I'm just trying to throw things out there. Yeah, we're having a conversation. We're trying to decide what counts because I don't know. Yeah, it's like a very, I think the reality is it's a more slim list of three platformers than you'd expect coming from Nintendo.

Because Super Paper Mario, I mean, you could argue that game as many things because it is kind of just a lot of elements combined. Yeah. But I would at the end of the day say that that game is a, I thought I had it. I lost it. Like, I was going to say it's like a platform, an action platform RPG, but like, and that's what it is. I'm not mad at it. Yeah, like some games are just weird. Like Super Paper Mario is just a weird game.

It's a weird game, man. Um, so I mean, while we're here, right, on, on the Wii, now I'm trying to think of other shit. Because there's also, like, this is the same era now. We're getting to DS time. Yeah. Because, like, all right. If we're just talking Nintendo, that's the thing that makes this a little easier

because it has to be Nintendo characters. Yeah. So there just aren't that many 3D platformers with Nintendo characters. So on the Wii, like that just, that's the Glover thing that goes away. There's a lot of things that, like yes they were 3D platforms on the console but they're not Nintendo. Is it easier to go character by character?

Kind of. Should we knock out just the Mario ones since that's easy and work our way down? So yeah we already wrote down Mario 64 Galaxy's 1 and 2 and sunshine Odyssey 3D worlds 3D world 3D land Mario 64 DS if that one would count. There is a lot of differences in that game

Yeah The 3D world 3D land and 64D Yes. Does Bowser's Fury kind of is its own thing? I think it should. Yeah, I think it should also. And yeah, I mean, that's, that's it for Mario. I mean, yeah.

And then DK 64. DK. 64 for DK. That's it. Until, until a few days from now. Yeah. So then really just 10 games. Zelda, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Fire.

They just don't got any. Toad? Captain Toad. Here's the thing. Captain Toe treasure tracker, definitively not a platformer. He can't jump. Fair enough. You can't jump. Do they know that at IGN?

I don't know. Does IGN know that? I can see them counting it. Oh. Kirby in the Forgotten Land. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah, Kirby, well, yes.

I guess that's the only one. Which is crazy. Great call out from chat there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Are we missing something? like Princess Pete

Showtime but see even that I'd say it's more an action game yeah that's a weird one I wouldn't call that a 3D platformer yes it's weird

because it's 3D and has platforms doesn't make it but that's real though that's yeah that's for real like devil me cry like has platforming elements it's not a 3D platformer

I mean we can start arranging unless there's anything if there's anything that we're missing chat I think that might be it some people in chat are saying banjo eraser sure you you missed our conversation earlier but we're trying to stick to nintendo characters

because we think that's what ig n probably yeah yeah i mean i guess i guess let's let's we don't have that many like we have what we have 12 games listed here now if we're if we're ranking these this gets a really interesting this gets really weird when we're ranking though because there's like a clear i think divide of like what those what that top tier is and then everything else. EK64 top tier, everything else below. It's funny because, I mean, I might be jumping ahead a little bit here, but you talk about that top tier, right?

I feel that in that top tier, there's so many factors that play, obviously, because nostalgia plays such a huge thing, the time and place of it coming out. Like, Mario 64 is just a complicated one. Because I think that in you and I's hearts, it's number one or up there at the very at least. Yeah. We would fight for it to be number one, even if we don't believe it is,

you know, um, but I think that just like, for the sake of this conversation of what we're talking about, the galaxy games, Odyssey, they're kind of on a different level, you know?

And I feel that when we're talking about essentially comparing tens in 3D platformers, what you're really comparing as the highs and the lows. Like when, when is the game at its best and when is it at its worst? And I feel, like how much influence it has, which it always feels like a part of these conversations as well.

But the thing about the games at its worst, I feel like the core thing about Nintendo platformers, it's the gimmick. And is the gimmick fun or not? Because you think about Mario Galaxy and the worst parts of that game are some of the gimmick stuff. The motion controls,

people either love how it feels in that game, or they don't. Pulling yourself to the stars and all that stuff, I feel like unanimously people's least favorite part of the Galaxy games, is the little, like, the ball rolling missions and the like Manteret stuff because it's gimmicky and doesn't feel great. Because it's motion control based and it just doesn't work that well. Sunshine, the entire game is the gimmick.

The entire flood system is the gimmick. And if you don't like that, it's not good. Mario Odyssey is at its worst when the capy abilities aren't good or aren't fun compared to the other ones, right? Yeah. Odyssey, I think, is an example of a game that has a lot of highs and very, few of those lows. But I think it's the gimmick thing that really stands out of defining one versus the other,

being able to actually try to compare them and decide which one. How do you rank these tens? I have written a list that I think IGN. This is what I think the IGN list is going to be. I think number one is going to be Mario Odyssey. Number two is going to be Galaxy 2. Number three, Galaxy 1. number four

Mario 64 number five Mario 3D world number six Kirby in the forgotten land number seven Bowser's Fury 8 DK 64

9 3D land 10 sunshine 11 64 DS 12 Warrior World I think that you nailed it right yeah that feels right that does feel right

the questions that come to mind are is warrior world going to be there because I can see them not having it I think we're missing things by the way 3D land. I've said this a bazillion times. Underrated. But it's very underrated,

but I also think that it is a product of 3D world makes it obsolete. I think it's one of the rare, the rare games in Nintendo's lineage where the world is just better. Like, land is awesome. I fucking love land. I've 100% of that game multiple times because you have to play as Mario and Luigi, and I've done that with both of them multiple times. But world is just all the great stuff, but more and way higher.

Yeah, and when I look at this list, right, like, what am I going to put land above? Maybe DK64? I mean, see, I think you have DK64 high. Are you putting it below sunshine? Yeah. No. Not what I feel, what I'm guessing IGN has. Yeah, I think you got to put some respect on DK's name, man.

You all need to respect sunshine more than you. No, absolutely not. But here's a blessing, you know me. You know this is not how I feel. But you know when I was awoken to the fucking hatred. that the gaming journalists out there have for DK64. It was when I started at IGN. And I don't feel like that sentiment has changed at IGN.

We got to wake up. And now we're trying to take it for Sunshine. Now we're trying to be like, oh, let's be the voice of negativity. So, Tim, like, I get what you're saying about, like, the gimmick is the gimmick fun. And, like, that's what we're going to be with some of these games kind of comparing and stuff. I think people are, like, always assume that, you know, the haters of Sunshine hate flow. and only flood. And I would argue that flood as a mechanic is actually fun.

And we do see some of those mechanics live on in games like Odyssey, right? It's everything around Flood that is just not well designed or buggy as shit. And just not fun. He's my thing. I don't go to fuck about sunshine. I'm still on DK64, man. Like, that game is such a... That's going to be bottom two, I guarantee it.

It's a victim to... A million different factors. Yeah, but like I think one of the bigger, maybe the biggest factor, right, is it coming post-Bainjo-Kazui and it being like iterative of Banger-KZui, but in a way that like, in a way that made people directly compare it

as opposed to taking it as its own thing. Because when you play DK-64 and not, like, without thinking about, like, how condensed down Banger-KZui is and probably how that makes it a bit more streamlined and all that shit, right? DK-64, I view it is just like a fucking, like, endless, like, greatly scaled platformer

unlike anything else at the time. Like, that game is fucking gigantic. Greatly scaled and the use of the word great, meaning large. It's a large game that is also filled with so much personality, that is filled with so much fantastic music, that is filled with so many collectibles. And like, sure, I understand. Too many.

Too many collectibles, sure. But also, like, it's an embarrassment of riches. You've got to change the way that you look at these things. It's an embarrassment of fucking riches. The way I look at it is it's like having $1,000, but all in pennies. You know what I mean? It's a great way to put it again. I was talking to Roger before this and talking about DK64.

I do think a lot of sentiment would have changed and how people look back on Donkey Kong 64. If you're able to swap characters. In real time. Yeah, in real time. Instead of having to kind of do like the back and forth of like, okay, I'm going to go back to this barrel, switch out over to Tiny Kong, and then go back to wherever I was that, where I found like a puzzle specifically for her, right? That and the, the amount of collectibles is, is ridiculous. Yeah. And that stuff I totally feel. I think that only is like in the way,

if you're specifically trying to 100% the game, which like, most people are not going to play that way, you know? Yeah. I don't know. I think there is a, there's a vibe and like, a, an energy to that game that for me has, obviously for me and Barrett has stood the test of time because we're so nostalgic for it, right? I think that comes down to the presentation, the music, the person, again, the personality of the

characters where we make fun of it, right? Like, Tim, I sent you the Smash remix, which is like this fan made version of Smash 64 that is essentially like what if you made Smash Ultimate on the S-64? And they made like a 14-minute trailer for their

2.0 update, adding a new character. It's incredible. Y'all need to check this out. It's a really great video that y'all need to watch. Even though I'm going to spoil the last reveal for you. The last reveal of the video is then revealing Linky Kong as a playable character.

And like, that did something to my soul where I'm like, that's my fucking guy. You know what I mean? Like Linky Kong is like something that like sits would be funky or not, well, funky yeah, but like Chunky Kong and like the family of Kongs as represented. Candy Kong, man. As represented in DK64, like, I think that game does so much justice to the amount of personality you can pull out of the Kongs.

And also how much personality you can pull out of the K.Royal coming in with a ship with a fucking laser pointed at the fucking DK aisle and game over being him blowing that shit up. So good. And that's his final smash and ultimate. It's so good. Yeah. There's so much in that game that I think just works. And then, like, a small handful of things that really don't work that I think do do. I think spoiled a game for a lot of people playing,

especially on the critical side of, if I'm reviewing this as a video game, I totally understand being like this shit is bloated. But men, did that shit like stick as a kid? That's my argument. I still think it's bottom to it on IGN's list. Yeah, probably.

And well, here's the thing. Like, like all bullshit aside, it probably deserves to be bottom two and Sunshine probably does as well. Actually, it does. Like,

my only thing is, I don't have experience with Mario World. We got 64 DS on here also. Yeah, but 64Ds kind of rocks It just has a couple problems. Yeah. Big problems. Yeah.

But I put 64 DSS over Sunshine. Really? I never played 64DS and so I have it. Yeah, 64 DSS. I've only seen video of it and I'm like, oh man, this looks interesting. I mean, it was a DS game. It was a launch game. But like having the multiple playable characters, like you can play as Mario, Yoshi,

Wario, Luigi in it. Like, that's freaking sick. All with different abilities and it changed the stars up. Like, you should play through at some way. Being Sets to Mario 64 lover, like, it's just Mario 64 remixed a bit. Like, and some things are fixed and better and some things aren't. A lot of things aren't. The controls aren't ideal because you need to, it controls more like 3D lander world.

We have to like hold a run button to run, which in 64 is just not designed that way. Yeah. Interesting. If it was on the 3DS, God, that game would rock. Because that game, I'm assumed doesn't have like analog stick controls. No, because it was DSS. Well, they, they helped, good Lord. There was the thumb attachment.

that you could have your thumb on the touch screen and it was like a stupid little thumbstick can you try to find an image of this bearer god that took me bad god awful that sounds insane but you could play mario 64 ds on the 3d s and then you get the analog stick um but it's still not true analog it's just pretending a dpad inputs are analog um so yeah not interesting all right are you talking about uh this thing yeah yeah oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh Okay. Well, we're going to get in to IGN's actual list. Before, actually, before we move out of here, are we, like, hold on. I don't think we're missing any games. Like, I feel like we're missing something. I just don't think.

We must be missing. We were all those missing Kirby, but like, I, I cannot think of anything. But we just didn't get to the Switch. Like, yeah. Like, yeah, I mean, let's talk about Wii U and Switch. Donkey Kong was 2D. Yeah. Yeah.

Captain, well, yeah, we're not doing Captain Toad. I don't. think it is. You would think the Nintendo would put out more 3D definitively is a

puzzle platformer yeah it is not it it's a 3D puzzle platform yeah would we count chibi robo

asked a chat another game that I don't really have experience what's up yeah it was never a 3 I don't know cheapie robo I'm not sure

we do have Warrior World on the list for the person in chat asking I also do you want to bring in a couple super chats uh Neil

writes in says birthday tax stoked to be spending birthday with Kind of Funny. Happy birthday, Neil. And then Kabab says I was in the top 50 of the first four speed runs. I don't know what game they're talking about. Probably. Oh, that's fun. That's really cool. All right. We're going to hop into the IGN list proper, but before we do, want to tell you about Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny and YouTube.com slash Kind of Funny Games where you can go and get the Kind of Funny membership, which allows you to get shows ad free. Speaking of ads,

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5% off polarized sunglasses. And we're back. Again, this is IGN's list. Every Nintendo 3D platformer ranked is written by Ryan Guar went up July 7th. As I opened this article, it has 11 entries, Tim.

Okay, and we made 12. And we made 12, which means Bowser's Fury is probably not there. I think Bowser's fear is probably lumped in. I feel like Wario's not there. You don't feel? Or Mario 64, yes. Oh, I don't think that was there, right?

Why would they count, well, when they not count that? I mean, just because it's Mario 64. Like, there is more to it, but. Interesting. Bowser's Fury has more unique content than Mario 64 yet. But do you think they just don't tie it into Bowser's Fury plus 3D world or whatever? I don't think because that's like an expansion. Yeah, but from like years later, like, I don't know.

Bowser's Fury to me is, there is so much more there. Fair enough. At number 11, you got Don Kong 64. You fucking bastards. I knew it, bless. You fuck.

I mean, it was inevitable, man. Man, we're, one day, one day, we're going to show some respect.

We're going to put some respect on Don Kong's name. I hope D.K. Bonanza comes through and fucks Mario Odyssey. That's what I hope now. Wow.

I hope D. D.K. Bonanza fucks Mario. I hope that game is so fucking good, but IG has to create a new fucking number and be like, ah, it's an 11th.

Oh, man. Oh shit, it's 11 out of 10. I don't know to tell you. Fucking D.K.'s doing the thing. So in your dream world, then Donkey Kong's top and bottom of the list. Oh, you son of a bitch. You son of a gun.

Despite some glowing reviews at the time of its release, Donkey Kong 64 has become Nintendo's default bad platformer. Fuck you. Fuck you. In theory, the barrage of ideas the game throws at you are pretty cool. And it's easy to see how reviewers at the time were impressed by DK's 64 size. It infamously contains almost 4,000 items to collect. So, I mean, real question for the two of you.

Yeah. Would you put Donkey Kong 64 above any Mario game that you've, any 3D Mario game that you've played? Sunshine. Any other? I've played a little bit of Sunshine and yes, but I've not played enough Sunshine to make that like a definitive thing. If I'm trying to do a fair balance, because nothing is truly unbiased, right? If I'm trying to do a fair balance between like my personal history of the game and then also just looking at the games themselves, I think it would, the only game would be Sunshine that I would put it above. I like this question.

I can't want to say Bowser's Fury No Oh I want to say You're insane Do you remember how good Bowser's Fury is? Yeah but also remember I still remember how good DK64 That implies that Bowser's Fury is like next on the list

That's crazy But we're talking You're asking my personal taste That's what? You think it's better that you think that 3D land's better than Bowser's Fury I'm not play With 3D Land is the DS1

3D land I only play 3D World Okay And yeah I'll say 3D World is better than Bowser's Fury Yeah but I think that's also just a scale and scope thing, right? If Bowsusphere was longer, then I'll probably lean towards Bowsusphere because, yeah, like, that three to, what, four hours of Mario game maybe,

at most, like, it is, that is what I want out of a Mario game, out of a 3D Mario game, I think I just wanted a lot more out of Bousosphere. That's probably my main thing with it. It was longer than I'll probably put it above DK64 for me. It's such a satisfying 100% man. That's six, seven hours call it a day. Listen, have you ever felt the satisfaction of 100%? percent in decay 64.

Have you? No. One day I will. And let me tell you. We only got you to just beat the game finally five years ago. One day I will, one day before I die. We'll do the 101%.

I will 101% DK64. No, you won't. And have the best orgasm of my life. Greg's going to apply the metal gear solid five. Oh, shit. Before you do that. Hey, before I die. That's the promise.

That's the promise to you, the audience. It's a promise everybody. That was number one. Put it on the calendar. Number one. Listen, I don't know if I could do that on content. I had to do that in private. And number 10, we got Super Mario 3D land, the 3DS game.

See, we're here at a place that we're just talking about some of the best games of all time. So while number 10 on any list is like, oh, man, that's not that great. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I can't fathom anything above this list and being like, they're crazy. Unless, except for Mario, which I. I just don't know about. Yeah, it's interesting.

We've not seen what are you yet. And number nine. Maybe why it was good. We just don't know. That's actually a good point. We got Bowser's Fury at number nine. Damn. Hello.

How's that it with you? I mean, just because of how short it is, like that bothers people. To me, that's a plus for this game. Like, I feel like it's such a focused experience. It's not perfect. It's definitely not perfect. But it's really, really damn good. I really enjoy this experience.

This is one that I, Yeah, like, you know how we all had the theory that like, this is what is, this is the experimentation that Nintendo is doing for their next big 3D Mario game? I hope that is still true. Like, I hope that, like, even Donkey Kong Bonanza that we're getting. I hope we see hints of Bowser's theory in that. Like, I don't know how we would, but like, I want this to be the future of where Nintendo goes with 3D platformers because I love the openness of Bowser's theory. And number eight, we got Super Mario Sunshine. I think that's what I'm saying.

that this is above Bouss's fear personally. I feel that. And number seven, we got Kirby in the Forgotten Land. I mean, I fucking love to see it. Hell yeah. I want to say this is too low. But like I just said,

I don't think it is. Like when we're talking about being real comparing Kirby and the Forgotten Land to what the next six games most likely are, I can't. I can't say that. Yeah, like Warworld being above this. Yeah, like Kirby, I really love, I remember not loving it as much as you, and I think Janet, I think might have voted on it for Game of the Year that year.

It was like, it was a fun time and then those last three hours. And those last three hours fucking incredible. But like all building up towards that, I was like, okay, yeah, this is cute, that's fun. Yeah, dude, I felt with Kirby in the Forgotten Land. This one is, it's interesting placement because I'm trying to think, on the list that I wrote down, right? I have five games ahead of it being Mario 3D World, 64. one to an Odyssey In the list that I have written down,

the only games theoretically that would be above it would be 64 DS or Wario World which like, I don't know. So we're missing one? I think we're either missing one or they have 64 DS and number six which I don't believe, right? Yeah, I don't know. That sounds crazy.

I mean, that's fucking you're wild for doing that. Kirby's way better than that. I mean, now I'm back on the cap and tow trade. I'll eat that. that will piss me because like what I unless there's something worth that's not a platformer

it's just not dude that's like saying that the original donkey Kong is a platformer you're jumping and there's platforms it's not whoa whoa whoa the original donkey Kong

he's a platformer a 2D platformer no fuck no the arcade donkey con I'd say it's a two D puzzle platformer you have to add puzzle

there like it's not a platform like that's what defines a platformer for you um I don't know but like he's He knows when he sees it.

Yeah. Like, look, technically by definition, yes. But like, when we know video games for what they are and there's buckets that exist, that's... For me, it's jumping. Like, for me, it's like the main mechanic is, like, leaping over things and, like, timing that leap. I know that's, like, so specific, but I feel like that's, like, the thing that ties everything together. Which is why I'm with you on Captain Toad, because, like, you're climbing, right? Like you're climbing and navigating and then like trying to, again, I should play Captain Toad, right?

But like you're collecting the things, but it's not necessarily a game based around jumping. Whereas DK, the original Dong Kong is like, that's all you're doing right is jumping and getting the hammer and breaking things. Yeah, I mean, you know, the arguments I'm making it in my head like don't even hold up because I'm thinking like side scrolling. But it's like they don't need to be side scrolling to be a two D platformer. It could. I don't know. Delta two. That's a side scrolling.

Yeah. You're right. Yeah. It also has a lot of jumping. Fuck, dude. Is that on the two? The platform? Oh, no.

All right. At number six, we got Super Mario 3D World. I would put this higher. I really fucking adore this game. I adore this game, too. But again, Barry. I know. It's like, what we're going to put it above?

Like, higher. It's like, fuck, what's higher? For me, it's one of those, like, I have the Andy brain where it's like, what would I rather play now? And if it's, like, between this and Mario 64, which I know you guys are going to yell at me about, like, it would be this. game. My thing with this is I go back to the argument

I made about 3D world and 3D land where I feel like this made land obsolete. It's not obsolete. Definitely not, but if I was making a list, I'd break up the Galaxy games with this. Oh, I see. Just to give this one extra props, because I really

do believe this is up there. I don't believe it's better than Galaxy, though. If I can make a confession that I'm slightly and I'm not ashamed about, but I know I'm in the wrong about. For some reason, 3D world just never hit the highs for me of like a proper 3D Mario or a proper 2D Mario. You know what I mean? I think I, I do like 3D world more than like the new Super Mario Brothers games and stuff, right? Like out of those modern ones. But like

when I look at the galaxies or Odyssey or Mario 64 or if I look at Mario 3, Mario World, right, like the 2D Mario's that I love, I 3D world hits that like middle part that like splits the difference in a way that I don't, I don't see it as like in that same tier of like the high, like the big boys. I know it's weird. Like I don't know what it is. I get what you're saying because like the design around it is much more in that linear, like quote unquote linear two D space. Yeah.

Like I have it probably if I were to tier them out, right? Like if Mario Galaxy and Odyssey and shit is like S tier and I'm putting new Super Mario brothers at like B tier, this is a tier to me. And I don't know why it's, I, I, Because I feel like everybody else has it at that S tier. Or at least I, do you have it at the S tier? Yeah, and that's the problem is yes. If you would ask me is Mario 3D World S tier, I would say yes.

Then you're like, okay, what are the other S2 Mario games? And does this game belong with those? I don't know that I can fully say yes to that. That's where it gets a little bit weird because we're talking about. Then I guess we're probably the same. Because I think that's where I come into. I mean, look, here's there. I often, I keep talking about like we're comparing tens.

This isn't a 10. It's like a 9.5. This is a 9.5 in my mind. This is a 9.5. Yeah. I should replay this game though. I remember during the pandemic when y'all were doing your four-player co-op play-thrus. And maybe that's the thing. Because I think that's like, I never had that experience.

And I think what made the original like new Super Mario Brothers on the Wii, even though I just called it be a here. But like what made that game special memorable to me was playing the co-op, even though I know like co-op isn't even that great. But like sharing that experience with other people, I think made it. In the same way, honestly, that sharing Super Mario Brothers 3, in the day on NES with my sisters playing that with them and passing the control back and forth that did also make that experience for me yeah but you take that away it's still fucking amazing that's true that's a good way about this too is like i i i look at the multiplayer experience of 3d world as a completely different experience than doing it solo and like it is designed

more for the four player type stuff or at least multiplayer um but i i i to me really earlier i say like the thing that breaks the games for me is the uh when the gimmicks aren't good for me for me the things that make them really stand out is how fun is it to 100% how much bullshit is there and I think that's a big thing against sunshine there's a lot of bullshit like the blue coins are excessive and not as clever as they should be for how many there are and how much of the game that is um and I feel like the galaxy games too like the green stars and stuff like they weren't necessarily uh putting the game in a way that incentivizes you to want to 100% it I think the Mario games have gotten really good at that and this.

This game, I think, is really good about making you want to get every single thing. All right. Let's move on to number five. We got. Oh, we got honorable mention. There we go. You called it, Tim. There we go.

I respect this. Absolutely. That's the right way to handle this. Love that. At number five, we got Captain Toad. How are you going to just take? No. All the props I just came in the face.

Also, this high? Captain. Yeah, this high is kind of crazy. A fucking spin-off mode from Mario 3D World? Like, what are we talking about here? I'm saying this is someone that loves this game, loves this game. Yeah, this game kicks ass. 8.5, though.

Uh, I would give it a 9. Really? Yeah, I fucking adore treasure tracker. But the thing is, is that, like, the channel, like, people are like, ah, yeah, vindicated in the chat. Like, yes, there are technically platforms, but that's not, like, the core interaction you're having with this game of how like you're getting from place to place is platforming. It is designed specifically in terms of like a puzzle mindset.

Yeah. Not a platforming mindset. And that's why I just like, I can't fathom the argument. Yeah, I think platforming is about execution, right? And like this strikes me as more like, I again, you guys can speak to a to a more than I can, right? But like more navigate to where you're, figure out where you're supposed to go or like what's the right route to the thing.

I'm sure there's some timing involved because I'm looking at those platforms there going to look like they're turning or whatever, so you're going to want to do that, right? But I feel like jumping has to be the core mechanic. Yeah, to consider a platformer. It is bullshit. Yeah, I don't like this. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people in chat, I think, are agreeing with you.

A lot of people aren't feeling this as a pick. Dang. Well, that makes the top four way more clear then. And number four, we got Super Mario 64. I get it. I think that this is probably the right spot for this. when we're talking about the games that we are. I also really, really commend IGN and gamers as a unit

for understanding that Galaxy and Galaxy 2 both ridiculously slap. You know what's funny is that like, I think you're when you were talking about Mario 3D World, you mentioned like this is where you would split up the galaxies. And like for me, this is the moment where I'm like, nah, you split up the galaxies. I love galaxies one and two.

I don't love them so much to them put both of them above Mario 64. One of y'all's coming down. I'm sorry, Galaxy 1. you're coming down, even though I love your soundtrack, and I love your vibes. Yeah. But the motion control stuff might have been too much. You're coming below.

I love a lot of the motion control stuff in Galaxy. I think it actually works with the game. It's just there's the gimmicky motion control stuff. That's where I'm like, ah, I feel like it doesn't always hit where I need it to. Again, we're talking about the gimmicks don't need to just be literal gimmicks of motion controls and stuff. Like, Mario's all about power-ups. Are the power-ups fun and are they used in creative ways? And do they, like, introduce them?

and then like flip it on its head and make you use them in conjunction with a bunch of other things. Do they recontextualize how you are interacting with the game as a 3D platformer? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And of course, I think there's always the evergoing conversation that's going to last forever as far as, you know, how well or how badly is Marist 4 age, which I totally understand. And I totally understand is a big factor, right? Like, I don't think I can keep getting mad anymore at Marist D4 being put like lower on a list than games that are super.

super duper modern and polished by today standards. Honestly, I feel like it's a, a silly argument to have. Yeah. Because it's like, what we're talking about is like, yeah, like the system's been refined so much. They're comparing Odyssey to 64. It's like anything about the movement and locomotion and all this.

Yeah, the camera or whatever. Even though I definitely like, the movement and locomotion of it, I'll always push back. Because like, and I know this is definitely like my nostalgia bias like brain of I played Mario 64 as a kid. And I played it all throughout my life. So of course,

Mario 64 feels great to me. But I can't imagine getting my hands on that controller with Mario and Mario 64 moving him around and it not feeling great. You know, it not feeling like the way, it moved, like I feel like he moves so perfectly. Camera,

I totally understand, right? Pressing a button to move a camera fucking sucks. And I totally get that. But I feel like the movement of Mario and like the controls of him and him and him climbing the tree and flying and all that stuff. For me, all that stuff is still intuitive to this day.

Yeah. The stuff that makes Marys 64 special is still special. And I think that a lot of it is unmatched. Yeah. Like I think that the Peaches Castle as a Hubworld, we haven't ever seen a Hubworld that good. Yeah. And speaking of secrets, speaking of like getting stars and stuff in the castle itself, finding different levels, like the way that it's organized.

Like it is the best. And they gave up on even trying after a certain point. Yeah. I'm surprised that we're not. This is why we got to do a list at some point that is top 10 hub worlds in video games. I like that. Because I want to do, we got to do an analysis to see like, like, did we not get close with any of the other ones? I really like D.K. Isle? But like, obviously, like, the world might not have.

Well, so what's interesting to talk about hub worlds is what are, what's their function? Is it literally just a way to get to the next level? Because it's like, you think about like Crash Bandicoot warped, right? Yeah. It's like there is like the little hub world, but like there's no. secrets or very few secrets if there are any. And there's no gameplay there really. It's kind of just like a

it's a convoluted menu essentially. Like instead of going down a list of things you're walking around and going to a list of things. Yes. Right? Whereas like Mario 64 there's secrets a plenty. There's gameplay. There's like you're doing a lot of the stuff that you do in the levels in the hub world.

Same for Delphino Plaza. Same for a comet observatory. But then Mario Gassi too just said fuck it. get Starship Mario because Common Observatory wasn't that good. Yeah. Yeah. Even like Nintendo themselves were like, man, yeah, we're giving this up.

Banjo games had like good help worlds. But even those is like, I don't remember those being as filled in the room with secrets as I remember Morris before being. Yeah, I would love to do that list. Battle for bikini bottom, I think is up there. Oh shit. Yeah.

Because there's like if we're talking about just as much like things to do and the places like secrets to find and collectibles to find like outside of just the normal levels like spons bob does that just as well Mario auditsky should have had a hub world i don't know what that would have been because the whole gimmick of that's that you're flying around each world is a hub world right like i think that's kind of the difference of like these the more modern games it's like they don't need a hub world because like that's just what the whole thing is yeah but i think there's something special about a centralized location that you keep coming back to yeah like i mean i i get that

And that's the thing is like for all the sunshine slander, some I understand, some I don't. The Lepraza rocks. Like it is big. It is cool. There's a lot of things to do in it. I do think that some of the blue coins, like I said earlier, like aren't the best collectibles. But like, that is a hub world that changes over time in a way that I think is very rewarding. Yeah.

Let me chat with Spiro. I like the Spiral Hubbub worlds as well. I remember that being a thing of like me running around and just fucking running those worlds. All right, that was number four. Before we move on to number three, final predictions here, I'm going to say, the question is for me, do they split up the galaxies? Because I could see it being...

That'd be fucking insane. I could see it being two Odyssey One. Wow. Nah, man. Wait, you're putting two at three? Two at number one, sorry. Oh, two at number one. Yeah.

I'm right there with you, bless one. Definitively, two's going to be above one. I think that time has won out. I didn't always used to be the case. I remember I used to be one of the people rocking for that, and there was a lot of people questioning me and now, no, like now everybody just come to

their senses and understand the two is better than one. Having said that, I will say this until the day I die. Between Galaxy 1 and 2, there is a perfect game. I don't think either of them are perfect though. Like I think both of them, if you cut the bat out of each of them

and just combined the good parts, who. Yeah, actually, and knowing IGN and thinking about like other Nintendo-related lists, like if this was a Zelda list, like number one would be Breath of the Wilder Cheers at the Kingdom, which I think we have done on this show.

So I would say, yeah, probably Odyssey, two and then one. Even though my, like, in my personal taste, I'll put Odyssey number one. Like, Odyssey is my favorite 3D Mario, aside from 64, maybe even more than 64. But there's something undeniable about Galaxy, though. I feel like Galaxy, just as a sub-brain of 3D Mario, is this so strong conceptually. It's so interesting, it's clean, it's polished,

It's like, you know, it has that like straightforward obstacle design, but then also it's open at the same time to some extent, right? Not as much as Odyssey, but it's open enough for you to have that exploration fulfilled. In the same way that Mario 64 is so special because of its secret to the magic of Mario 64 and like does it hold up now and all that stuff aside. The magic is undeniable. Mario Galaxy, I don't think will ever be matched again. in terms of sheer epicness.

Like the fully orchestral soundtrack for the first time, one of the first times in video games period, not just Mario or not just Nintendo, which is like, holy shit, they went so hard with the songs in that game and the set pieces and Mario getting blasted through space and the way the gravity works.

Like, holy shit, I don't know. We always talk about obviously Mario 64 being like one of the greatest leaps in video game history of going from 2D to 3D and all this stuff. But like the jump to Mario Galsals in terms of gameplay and what they're doing, the sure creativity of, where do we take Mario next?

Space, what does that look like? And how does that affect gameplay? I don't really will ever see something like that again. Yeah. And it's Nintendo, so maybe we will. But like... Space is just cool, man. That's what it comes down to for me.

It's like, space is just like... Yeah, it is, it is like, where can you leap to? But then I think it's also like... Just conceptually, I don't know. There's something that is weird, but also fun. Like Mario Odyssey, right, being this travel thing of, you know, we're taking a road trip kind of thing. Like, it's cool, right?

But there's something about space that's just fucking different. Well, you do end up on the moon. I guess you do end up on the moon. But even still, like, there's something about honest. Yeah, it's not, it's not the same as. It's not the same as galaxy. Galaxy really just takes advantage of the space setting in terms of gameplay. And it's fun as fuck.

Yeah. And there's a lot of great stuff to do. The bosses are high points, I'd say, for the Mario franchise. At the very least, they were like a demonstrable step up from a momentable step up from Mario 64 and Sunshine had and have set the standard now for what we expect from 3D world and from Odyssey and things like that. So

yeah, I don't know. Galaxies, man, they're goddamn special. But I think that IGN's going to have Odyssey at number one. Really? Oh, yeah. I think there's no chance that they put Galaxy at number one. I think that Odyssey is, if we're going to say that Mario 64 hasn't aged well,

well, Odyssey's the newest. And guess what? Because of that, it is the best because we're talking about people, a team that refines their work over and over and over again. Well, let's get into it. At number three, you got Super Mario Galaxy 1.

Love that. I think we expected this, right? Yeah. At number two, we got Super Mario Galaxy 2. Tim nailed it, meaning at number one, you got Super Mario Odyssey. You can't be mad.

You really just can't be mad. I'm mad of California. Captain Toad. Yeah. Otherwise, this makes sense. I will say, having experienced this in the last couple months, or I guess last month with the Switch 2 dropping,

like popping into a bunch of games, popping back into Mario Odyssey is a little daunting. And like, it takes, it's harder for me to like get back into the swing of it of like... The locomotion and stuff? No, the movement of the game's great, but like the figuring out what I'm doing.

Like, now that I'm, you know, probably 70% of all the stars. I never 100% of it. And that's another thing is like, Mario Odyssey I feel like dissuaded me from, that's the right word. I don't know. Too many moons.

Way too many moons and like not all of them, like most of them didn't feel like they had weight and consequence to the missions. Way too many just doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. Not fun stuff. Yeah.

And again, we're nitpicking here. Like we're taught about what I think is a 10 out of 10 game. But jumping back in now, even if I wanted to 100% it, I don't feel like the game. helps you get back into it and go where you're missing things, you know? Barrett, is there a way you can bring up gameplay of Wario World?

Because I can. If I'm rating this being either the shit or shit list, the name of this list is every Nintendo 3D platformer ranked. I'm going to look up who the developer was, Warrior World. Either way, it's published by Nintendo. Wasn't it intelligent systems? Developed by Treasure. Treasure, okay.

published by Sony. No, I'm just kidding. I know published by Nintendo. Brother, this is a 3D platform. It is a straight-up. You're going to like put Captain Toad, but you're not going to put

Warrior World out here. I don't know, man. This is crazy. I don't know, dog. I mean, a lot of that, well, no, yeah, there's 3D. I was going to say like maybe this is a Kirby Crystal Shards thing.

I mean, it kind of is. Yeah, but Kirby is still. This is more 3D though, dude. Yeah, Kirby only moved on that 2D plane. for the most part. I don't remember being able to move into 3D plane and Kirby. Here he...

This is a 3D. This is a 3D. This is a fucking platform. Okay. Yeah. Captain Toad is definitively a puzzle game. Yeah.

I think between this missing Captain Toad being there and then also like, I'll make an argument that I'm surprised that 64 DS is not there. Like I understand that it's a remake of 64.

But I feel like it from what I've seen to yes, it looks different enough to where like if I was talking about Margie 64 casually, right?

Like you make the assumption that I'm not talking about the DS version. If I was talking about the DS version, I'd say the DS version. You know what I mean? So I feel like it should get its own entry in there, especially with Bowser's Fury as an expansion kind of situation. Real talk. I mean,

100% of both countless times. Yeah. I could see the argument either way. If you're going to make a list of every single one, then it's like, why wouldn't you just include every single one? Yeah. But I also wouldn't be mad if just in the Mario 64 blurb, they said there was the DS version, but blah, blah, blah.

Yeah. And I'd be okay with that. And I tried looking that up, But my Google, or sorry, my control F isn't picking up any 64 D.S references, even in the article. I don't think I can give this list either it's shit or the shit, because it's just, it's incomplete. I think I got to give it a thumbs down. That plus DK64 being in the last place. It's not even a bit.

Put some respect on my boy. That is so funny. Tim, is this list the shit or is it shit for you? I mean, I can't, there's things about it. I don't like, but at the end of the day, they got the majority right, I think. So can't be mad at it. The fact that they have both galaxies that high, I can't be mad at it. I respect it.

And 64 as well. And that Kirby's on the list. Kirby is on the list. If we had to take a guess, does Donkey Kong actually change the hierarchy blessing? That's a good question. D.K. Benazza coming in. I mean, now that we've seen the hierarchy, unequivocally, it has to. If it doesn't change any sort of high.

I mean, the list is way more thin than I thought. So, D.K. Bonanza, it has to be. It has to be. The Galaxy games, dude. In 64. I'm not even talking about that high. I'm just looking at the top five.

Oh. It has to enter top five, I think. I think it has to be better. My expectation is somewhere around that Kirby. Because Kirby's one. Kirby's number seven. Yeah. That's my expectation that I'm still going to have a fun time with, I think.

From playing it, the limited 20-minute experience I had. And I was also saying that, like, I think this is going to be a Caribbean forgotten land level game. Which, again, high compliment. But it's not honesty. Looking at this, but it is by, but now we know it's the Odyssey team, dude. Like, I am never going to doubt them. Also, have we talked about, like, how they just, like, confirmed to that, which is, it feels so opposite of what they've done in the last few years? Yeah, we talked about it on, on AKFD.

well some people talked about I don't know who was on it but like that is kind of insane they came out and said it I feel like they were kind of forced to though like I feel like and maybe I'm wrong about this but like it feels like Rebecca Valentine

was like showed up at their office with a shotgun like fucking do this shit like tell me right now like do we also think it might be a little bit of like don't expect a Mario from them in the next year

because there were still like kind of expectations or hopes that a new Mario game would be coming out either this year or next year. I don't think Nintendo cares about people's hopes and dreams. Yeah. You know what I mean?

I think the more mystery Nintendo can't like, you know, veil over their stuff going on. Like the, they'll do it. I think, yeah, I think honestly, I think they're,

I think part of why they say it is because it's kind of obvious. Like when you look at D.K. Badaenza, like, again, playing the more we've seen. I mean, watching that direct.

It's like, watching the direct changed my thoughts from what we played. Yes. Then I'm like, okay, the Kirby and Forgant Land. expectations, maybe out of whack. Sure, yes.

But having said that, there's still a lot of things. I have a lot of questions about this game because just breaking a bunch of shit, just goes back to the gimmicks. Do they find fun, creative ways to make that last, the entire game and make me want 100% it? Or am I just mashing buttons and breaking stuff? That's fun and that's cool. But like, we're talking about the Mario team here and we're not getting the Mario game.

It being, okay, this is what I'm going to say, because I was going to say four through six range. If I'm looking at this I-JAN list, right, of like that being Mario 3D World, Captain Toad Treasure Tracker and Mario 64, God. I'm going to say, D.K. Bonanza, on this list, knocks down Captain Toad Treasure Tracker. Becomes a new number five. That's my, that's my prediction. I can only hope. That might be aiming high, but I'm sticking by it. It also just threw it, like, I still don't know how to process that just because Treasure Tracker is not a plow.

Like, I hope Bonanza fucks Mario Odyssey. Let me explain that sentence a little bit. Jesus. All right. I'm tired of the disrespect, man. I'm also just thinking about the local locomotion of Odyssey, Bless. We've talked about it before of, like, how much it feels inspired by those rare games, like, Donkey Kong in terms of, like, Mario's movement.

I'm just trying to, I'm just thinking, like, how it's coming back home. It's coming back home. I'm back home. I'm excited. Ladies, gentlemen, M.Bs, let us know in the comments below. what is your favorite Nintendo 3D platformer? Do you think D.K. Benazza is going to have the stuff to change the hierarchy of this list? Let us know.

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