Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Ranking Handhelds (By Looks) - Kinda Funny Gamescast (Version 2)

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

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What's up and welcome back to the kind of funny games cast live for Wednesday, July 31st, 2024. Of course, I am your host, Tim Getty's. Today I am joined by the new face of video games blessing at a yoia Jr. 138. 138. That was the score this week in kickball. We're coming back. We lost.

We lost. We got points on the board. We're the eight, but we got more points on the board. It happened like an actual game this time. Yes. Yeah, because last time it was what? 23. 20.

How many war from the lock? Roger Percorning? None. I don't think so. I don't think that. But I'm team captain. Brought the energy. He brought the energy. We had an insane amount of energy. The other team are going to be thinking about this game for the rest of their lives. They were not ready for the amount of energy. We're screaming. We're yelling. We're clapping for everybody. It doesn't matter if they're out. We're like, fuck, yeah, you got this.

We're doing the high fives every time. Oh, my God. We were in it. There are a bunch of corpses out there, Tim. Yeah. And they won 20 to 13. But they're corpses. What about you? I mean, home runs that I get? Yeah.

Let's just say I killed it. You know what I mean? You got to feel like that. The thing is I, we got to figure out the turn order because like I had my last kick that I did. Oh man, knocked it out the park. All right. Made perfect contact with it. The problem is the bases weren't loaded.

There's only one. It was only Katie on the first base. So it's really your team let you down on that one. Exactly. I'm not trying to say that the team's holding me back. All I'm saying is that I'm bringing the team forward. A bunch of limp noodle legs out there. They can't kick it out.

Typically in baseball, blessed. I know you haven't played sports before. Typically in baseball. At the top of a lineup, right, you know, the first one, you want to have somebody who's like, it's solid enough to get on base and then your two and three order.

Again, solid enough, maybe not as good as like your opener. And then your fourth person going out. Clean up, baby. Your cleanup, clean up. See, no, we were just trying to get to the point where we had a batting order, right? Last game, we were just kind of like,

huddled around being like, I don't know who wants to go next. What are we doing? Like, now the fact that we have a line, that's a big deal. And guess what? All the other teams that were going against,

they never have lines. They never have batting orders. They're also doing the, they're just kind of hauled around and they're just kind of hauled around. I don't know, who goes next. I don't know.

So we're together. We have this together. And they want 20 to three. Yeah, they want 20 to three. I mean, it's okay. When you're all Mark McGuire,

when you're all Sammy Sosa. Guess what everybody. When the Chicago Cubs roll up to play a little league team, they're not worried about the line. Who wants to go swing? Go for it. Half of the league is also Flip Cup.

And we dominated flip cup, okay? We dominated flip cup. Oh my God. I had to smoothest flip cup ever. Oh, we fucking short. They're like, use your opposite hand. Your opposite of your dominant hand. I like chug that thing, put the cup down.

Boom, first try. Dang. That's a gamer. Dude, I'm different. Left hand blessed. You know, God. Left hand blessed. A stranger.

A stranger is freaking awesome, dude. What a new nickname. No, no, no, no, no. My favorite thing about this. There's a connotation of that. We don't want to. My, my, My favorite thing about this is you're not getting hurt, Roger.

Every single kickball game that you do and you come in and you don't have a freaking cast on. It's a win for me. No, because if Lanz got hurt last time, it's my turn, right? So, yeah, I'm waiting for it. So there was a slight entry last night. Alyssa got, like, barreled over by some big guy who did not apologize. No. Wow.

Yeah. He got me. I came home drunk last night. She told me that story. I was like, God, fucking damn. I want to find this guy. I'm going to play that. We were going to play that team.

He's on a different team. Hey, but real quick, shout out to that. Barrett, I came home drunk last one. Oh, he was at the flip cup. No, you've been drunk somewhere else. Of course, we also have the big daddy himself, Greg Miller. Hello, Tim. And rounding out the group today, the nitro rifle, Andy Cortez.

Where is a Soldier Boy console going to land? Where is it not here, Roger? I'm so surprised that you don't own the Soldier Boy console. I have been pitching for years of Blessing Show episode where we tracked down Soldier Boy and we try to figure out this console. We always was like, we gotta make the soldier game episode, and I'm like, no, we don't. No, I have to picture. I'm like, I truly believe that if we just kind of debate him a little bit, we can be like, oh, let's talk about your music. Then we just got to have a heart and we did.

We bait him. We jibate him a little bit. I think we can get Soldier Boy easy, easy on this podcast. I mean, I do not disagree. I think he's going to be great up games, though, too. I don't think it needs to be like a, like a bait and switch. I don't want to ask Soldier Boy about crank that. Like, I'd be down to stick to the games, but also I'm like.

I'd be down to ask him to crank that. good for you. I can play that. Okay, okay. Oh, man, everybody. This is the kind of funny games cast where we get together every single weekday live

right here on YouTube and Twitch to talk about the latest in reviews, previews, or just fun discussions. And these are some of my favorite episodes where we get together and just have good old-fashioned debates. A couple weeks ago, maybe last week even,

time is a flat circle. We debated and ranked consoles by looks. And looks alone. We had rules that we tried to stick to. We had a tearless we went through. Bless, you missed this episode. Yeah. It got crazy. I mean, we sat down here before Bear rolled the intro and did pre-production this episode, which shocked me. And I'm like, what happened last time? But we needed pre-production

this time. I mean, so here's the thing. Clear your mind and everybody. Let's not try to frame. Let's not try to, you know, go crazy. Bear, is there any way that, no, there's probably not. A way to show, uh, blasting like the previous ones. I can pull up the episode. Oh, yeah, I reset it. Totally cool. Roger, you made one, right? or you made some sort of graphic? No. I can pull up the last episode, though. I can bring up the end of the episode. That's a good call. That's a good call.

But before we even do that, I have one and one question alone to ask you. Visually, looks alone. Looks alone. Sega Genesis. Like, am I putting it in a tier? Just like, just give me your thoughts. I mean, put it at a tier. It's like far from my favorite looking console.

It's fine, I guess. I don't think it looks bad by any means. It's like strong. I put Sega Genesis as strongly okay looking. So on like S to F C Wow Probably C tier

Sounds about right Yeah sounds about right What was the man of taste right there Was somebody like it looked Everybody were people saying about the show Everybody put it in A rank Really Gorgeous

It's a good one It's a good one The chat was going crazy If we put it They were Chad was going crazy with it The same way they were going crazy When you all said PS5

With A rig as well The console not the controller Not the controller Not the controller What is special about the way the second genesis looks? It's just a really solid Cool events. Yeah.

You didn't see the master system beforehand. That was the best of sure. Listen, they have outraised numbers that have 16 bit on it. It looks stupid as shit. Yeah. There,

can we pull up an image of the Sega? I will say, 2,600 belongs in. That's not. Bless, thank you. Yeah, 2600 is a fantastic looking console. Fuck yeah.

Yes. What do you think is the greatest looking console of all time? Ooh. You can think about it, too. You don't need to answer. Yeah, I might need time to think about that.

I've not thought I've not thought I love about that. By the end of this episode, you need to answer. I got you. Plenty time. God, that S tier looks so damn good up there, though I'll tell you one. It really does. But like I was saying, we do a whole bunch of live talk shows. We already did kind of funny games daily where Andy and I talked all about the bungee layoffs.

And then after this, we have Greg Miller playing some fallout London. And I'm sure it's going to run perfectly. After three hours of troubleshooting, we're there. If you're a kind of funny member, you get the Gregway, which today is. recorded. I need to upload it. It was, should we leave Twitch? Should kind of funny leave Twitch?

Oh, interesting. Yeah. I want to listen to that. Let me just say, I've already started deleting. All of our information off of Twitch. Oh. We're leaving Twitch, too. He started with the bio.

I love this company so much because I know. I scared him for a second. I know more than anybody, like probably about the details about most things and the amount of conversations that happened today that I walk into and people are talking. I'm like, oh, something big happened. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? And I'm scared.

Oh, whatever. Let's have some point here. I'd be gun deleting. It's just dumbfounded. Thank you. Every day I'm taking new character off the bio. Thank you for our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs and Delaney Twainty for allowing all the shit. Whatever the fuck this is to happen.

Today we're brought to you by Shady Ray's Hymns and Portillo merch, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with the topic of the show. Rod's what's going on? I look over a posting. He's sitting up like a student about to take a test. It's just a blank document. It's not blank.

It's a blank document. It just has two lines. One line, Atari 2,600. One line. The next line, Nintendo Wii. That's it. He asked you a question. I'm going to find the answer to the question.

I'm just typing down. The name of the dock is good-looking consoles. Oh, man. Bless, strap in, because this is the energy that we are bringing to today's show. We will be ranking handhelds by looks. The rules are simple. Rule number one, based solely on looks and physical design. We're not talking about software, okay? We're not talking about the game library that these consoles have had. And we're not talking about the feeling of these buttons or anything like that. Wow, wow, whoa. That's what I feel like. I don't know about that. It's based on looks. That's the title of the episode.

It looks. You can't, we can pick, I brought these to look at it. I mean, what if you can't pick it up to look at it? That look at it. You can't touch the buttons. That looks uncomfortable to hold. Oh, we don't know. We can never know.

We can only look at it. I, I, I, I, this is a tough one because I feel like for, uh, handheld, the, the, the, the feel is part of the look. Mm. I disagree. Uh-huh. I disagree. I disagree. I disagree.

I'm with Greg and Tim on that one. That, that's not a look. look his eyes. Look his eyes. Hold on. Rule number one, Raj. Fireful. Rule number one, Raj. Based solely on looks

slash physical design. Yes. I think physical design implies the feel. No. When I wrote that, that's not what, that was not my interpretation. That was not my interpretation. You know, a lot of the founding fathers wrote things

that we've interpreted in very many different ways. When you're an artist, and you put it out of all that shit. Hey, Roche, tough titty, all right? It's already great, everybody. Rule number two. Rule number two here, this is different than how we did the consoles.

Because handhelds function differently and are released differently, all colorways for each design will be kept in the conversation. We can make our arguments if we want to fight for all, man, but that color looked great. But other people can be like,

yeah, but this color looked horrible. We can bring that in, but we're going to be doing it by designs, and we will be doing the different iterations. of the handhelds like the Game Boy, Game Boy Pocket, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, Game Boy SP, all of that stuff. We're going to be doing it. All the different Dss is. How many Ds is where, Andy? Not three DS6.

Normal DS. The answer was three. Damn, that. But we'll be getting into each and every one of these. Let's start it off. Barrett Courtney. Go ahead. You got ready for this?

You did that and knock the beat up. We got to start where it all began. the Nintendo game and watch super, super, oh, gee. We got some visceral sound from Blass. I want to start with Blass on what you think about the game and watch. I mean, I think for the time, neat, cool,

obviously, like, it's one of the ones that started at all. But I think you look back and it does look like a toy, right? Like, you look at the buttons and it's like, what are we doing? Left, right, game A, game B, time. How big, do we, we don't have, game watch, we don't have here, right? Use the thing. It's small. You think I have a game and watch?

Maybe. I don't know. Actually might. They re-released them. We'll get to that one later, which I think was roughly the same size and they're small. They're very small and they're very, very thin. How small are they? Like this entire thing?

I mean, it's like, it's like my little wallet there. You know what I mean? Maybe a little bigger, but I mean, it's thin. It's this thin is what I'm saying. Yeah. Like this thing, very impressive, the game and watch. Not much function, I'll tell you that. But like, you know, you think back to the Tiger Electronics handhelds.

Those things were kind of chunky and big with little tiny screens. I'm impressed that the Game & Watch had a lot more functionality screen-wise with the design going on. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough one because it's so old. I'm leaning towards C. I think the design is just outdated. I look at that and I don't, like, I'm not attracted to it. I'm not like, ooh, this is sleek.

Oh, this is a thing that I'd like to spend time with. Bear, throw that little bitch back up on screen. See, A. I like it. Not offensive. of E, especially for the time period, I would go B. I think it's a very simple, elegant device. I'm with you, I think B for this, because of the versatility of it.

If Baird, if we could maybe get some other game and watch pictures too, the thing that's cool about this is every game had different colors. So it's like, you're pulling up. Bear, can I get a three-year-old playing with it? But there's a lot of different color ways for this thing that were associated with the different games. That's cool. The design language worked well enough that,

different games. They can each have their own vibe to it. I appreciate that, especially this early on, because we're talking about the it's literally 1980 that this thing was out there. Yeah, I think visually this is transcended because there are still so many things that are like the game and watch that they sell and they try to mimic

but the OG still stands pretty tall. I would not go, this is an A or anything, but I think a B I think this is above average. Solid little beauty. It's above average. Yeah. I think so. I mean, we're going to see an average looking at consoles. It looks above average. It made the average too.

How's that work? Don't worry about it. Wait, what you're saying? We're having to show, guys. Thanks for the donut. Here's the thing, blessing. I can't touch the button, so I don't know, actually. Maybe it might be an S tier.

I can't fucking touch the buttons. I'm just looking at it and I'm like, it doesn't look ugly. And I feel like that's the best thing I can say about it, which is why I'm like, I don't think it's a D tier. D tier is our lowest tier, right? We don't have an F. There's an F.

Oh, there is an F. Yeah, we have an F. Yeah, stay by C. If there's a F, I feel like C is a strong place for. it then. All right. I already want to start out with a bit of a we'll have to vote here. We'll have to figure this out.

I think I'm changing my response. Oh, shit. From what I thought would have been a low B. I think I'm going to go high C at this point. Wow. I'm going high C. I'm not mad at high C. Yeah. I'm a mad at high C. I'm sticking with B. Because we're also doing the thing where it's like where it is on the ranking. So you know what I mean? Like

Oh, okay. Yeah. So like it's like the highest S is like, oh, that's like the top tier and then like the bottom S is a bottom S. Right? We're going through that. So I'm down for a high C. Andy, where are you at? I'm low B. High C.

I do really appreciate that it's looked just sort of transcended all these generations and we see the DNA there. So I would go, I'd be fine with the high C. Oh, you piece of shit. There we go.

So throw it in that seat here, baby. Does McDonald's still have high C? They took it away and they brought it back. They took it away? Yeah, they took it away for a while. It was a big deal. They have orange. Well, yeah, I guess the orange shoes I get with breakfast

is very different from high seat. I'll be so mad. I give me the two sausage burritos and the orange juice and they hand me a high C. I'm going in there. I'm fighting some. I'd be very happy. I like it in the opposite. You grew up just thinking high C wasn't a juice.

Dang. That's healthy. We're moving to the Atari Links. The Atari Links. Roger had a visual reaction. I mean, well, I need to see the full image,

but like that little thumbnail was not inspiring. I think's 30 years older than Roger. He acts like he knows it. I mean, this thing. Yeah. You love us? I lived it.

I remember this thing. I'm gonna give a shout out to the color way. I think that the color of the charcoal actual hardware itself, nicely complimented by that mustard yellow. The logo, cool for the time, but I think overall,

I like that X. This thing is kind of an atrocity, mainly because of the button placement. I mean, who would have thought that you could have, who would have thought you could have had bezzles on a controller, you know, like around a D-pad, you know what I mean?

Yeah. I think this would have looked a lot better if it were just matte black with the glossy buttons. Something about this great, like something about this looks like something I'd buy at a Dick's sporting goods to play golf. Like this sort of helps you. It's going to check your swing. Yeah. It's a weird little device. It looks like an old school phone and like an office.

Or it kind of like it'll like do my blood pressure or like measure my big my feet are. I don't know. It's just a very weird looking thing. I don't love a whole lot about it. I would put this in the day. T-T. Oh, dude. If this is not an F, I don't know what the fucking F is. Oh, wait. Dude, look at those. No, it's a dot. Look at the

placement of those buttons. That is insane. D. Argument for the placement of the buttons. You can't feel. You're saying it would feel weird. It might feel great. I don't mention it's A, B, A, B. It's like you're not. It's for multiplayer. Yeah, you idiot. They're trying to save you money. Roger wasn't there. I don't care if I'm not there. I don't like the way this looks. This looks. This looks like everything about this has no cohesion. There's no cohesion here. This is awful. I hate looking at this. You're right. There's so many

different colors. Oh wait, there's only two or three there. That's cohesion right. Yeah, wow. Look at that. I'm talking about where everything is. Like, why is every, like, look at the D-pad. And then the big-ass circle around it, that sucks. I'm just going to use this argument you're saying right now for all of the awful takes you had in the console

one. Yeah, let's get him. I was on your side for most of the things. You miss me off by not having a V-B. This is far from an F, but it is not. Far from an F. Pardon me. What are we talking about? D. D. Oh, yeah, okay. Pardon me. Leans low C, but yeah, I think D is probably, yeah, I'm down. I'm crazy.

I see, I, I, I think, honestly, I don't think it looks, I go high D. I don't think it looks that bad. I got a high D right now. Oh, Jesus. I shouldn't have bought donuts. I don't know what you, I don't want to know what you do with the donuts. Yeah, I don't think it looks that. I feel like there are ugly looking handhelds that we'll get to.

I don't think the Artari links looks ugly. I think part of that is color. I think the colorway is great. I think the circle around the D pads is yeah, whatever. But then yeah, the budget. placement looks weird but yeah it is for multiplayer right so the unique saving you money let's get to the Atari D D D the Atari links gen 2 gen 2 I gotta find a better picture hold on yeah take it's hard I think this is the best one of camera's back then no we didn't oh that's cool

oh we don't have that's cool that's way cool that's ugly than what is it's 100% uglier 1,000% ugly. This looks like a knockoff powering to show communicator. Who wants to tell me what's pretty? What is happening? This is F. No. I think this is F2.

This is an improvement. I think this is just D tier. What can they do to the argument, but this is low D. That feels like something I can actually pick up and play. Like I see that way, okay, I get that. This solves none of the problems you had except getting rid of the circle around the D pad. Look at the bud placement. And I'm like, that looks like a handheld console.

I look at the other thing. I'm like, I don't know. That looks like some kind of hungry, hungry hippo scheme. You put down it something's going to come out of the little hole. This looks like I got it at McDonald's in like a happy meal, but it also comes with an FM knob. And I don't think this is a good design. I don't think this is a way better design. I'm just saying this is, this is better than the last one.

I think this is a D. The last one is enough. Is there a way we can see what this looks like from the back? It's already hard enough just to find this picture. I'm trying to think of the ergonomics of it. Because this does not look comfortable to hold. No. Neither did the last one.

The last one looked way worse. I see that. I'm like, oh, I picked that up. I understand how that works somewhat. I don't understand the fucking two-button situation. Why is there, I guess you could play with people, right? Such a dumb idea. Such a dumb idea.

So I'm sure it was like Pong. I mean, look at that one. Look at how thick he was. Oh, he was super thick. How was the other one? Yeah. Look at how thick that guy is. This looks, this looks uglier from the back.

Like, the grooves help, I guess, help the ergonomics conversation. a bit, but like... The grooves make it look like one of those bottom of the ocean floor dwelling creatures that uses its, like, tentacles that kind of move across the ground. I don't think it's as bad as Roger

as it is. I don't think it's much better than what we just saw. I would just put a D tier and I don't care where it goes. I think this is better than the last one. I mean, we got to put this above the line. No, we don't.

F tier. Yeah. I agree with F tier. I would go D, but I'll go F just because I feel like... Just to get Roger, man. No, it's close. It's either high F or low D.

at that and you're like, that I think in the after year looks like more in line with the modern game consoles than the thing in the thing in the... You're crazy. Honestly, that doesn't look more, that looks like the Xbox, Xbox, period. Honestly, I'm waiting. Which is more in line with Atari Links. The original

links looks more. What is that in line with? It looks like a fucking phone. Look how smart it is. Your phone looks like that. No, I'm saying it looks more like a phone than the fucking thing that's transforming. Here's what I'm saying. Look at the links too right now. It's like a convertible car I'm looking down at. I'm closer with Raj on this one now. Like I don't like

what we just saw, but this most recent one isn't like as bad as you, like it, the most recent one we just saw looks like the end of the animorphs sort of transitioned transformation and the one before it looks like the step right before the end. I wish I could hear you, but we've already put it on this thing. It's done. No.

Fair. You know, if there's, we had a whole filibustering campaign before this of what we're doing here. I can be down to put it in low D. And one of the things Barrett said is that once I put it on the board, it's over. We said, okay, Barrett. I did say that. I did say that.

I did we down with O'D.D. Oh, he left the roof. If we move up the Atari Links to see. No. No, no. Listen. No, no. Oh, my God.

What of it is. I'm just saying. Moving on. I didn't not realize I'd get so heated about the Atari links. I love it. I love it. Holy shit. Well, only 35 more consoles to get.

Nintendo Game Boy. Ooh, now come on. Hold on. Before we come in with all. of the modern criticisms. Sure. Let's just talk

about this beautiful bastard. You kidding me right now? What a fucking unit. Just an ugly fave.

You know? Very much so. You know what I mean? This was the thing, yeah. You knew one day Nintendo would get it together and their

handhelds would blossom. And this is the ugly duckling phase that we loved. We loved him. Yeah. Okay? Despite all the attachments

I had to buy to make it work. Of course. The magnifying glass, the lights, you name it, I had to have it all. My case

that was just a bigger Nintendo gameboy. And we think they would fix it for the sequel. They did not. The thing about this is not only is it classic. Not only is it iconic. There's so much great design to it. Even the divets on the D-Pad are unique.

There's these little lines on each, the up, down, left, right. They have two little lines each to make it different than the NES. And the colors of the B&A button being that like coral and how good that looks with the green screen. And all the little design language of the, the, the, colored lines at the top, the like indigo logo for Nintendo. I'd go more raspberry on the way. Instant. Raspberry is good.

But where the speaker grills are, the diagonal shape to a lot of the things. There's so much going for this. My only reason I wouldn't put it incredibly high is they refined this design so well. And not even that long that I would say, I mean, this has to be a tier, I think. But it's not S tier. No, this is probably going to be a low B for me Because I'm going to look at the other choices and go This doesn't belong in that

Category or in that ranking I think this is going to be a B for me I was going to give a respectful C Because again, I love it But it's my nostalgia talking And I think that again we're about to get into all the iterations They do to this thing That if I'm already putting it up into B

Then I'm pushing so many up higher My argument is I just feel like All the Game Boy designs are good though Sure And I feel like there can be many high ranking ones. I feel like the Game Boy is so solid. It's my least favorite of the Game Boys, I think.

But I think the Game Boys are just good designs. But I also think that we are going to get to a point where we have to be way more judgmental when they're like increments apart that we can't have just a whole roll of A's at a certain point. We won't be respected anyone. Yeah, we got to respect the list.

We may get banned from the website. Jeff Grub, he's been looking for a reason to take us down lately. This could be it. I'm leaning towards high C, low B for it. I think Tim's spot on in terms of a lot of the visuals, right, calling out the coloring of the buttons versus the base, the base console. The fonts, the difference on the side, like the little that, like the imagery like in the bezel, right? Like matrix with sound. A lot of that I think visually does hit, but I do think when you look back at it, especially when you hold it,

it does feel like a brick and it does look like a brick. And I do think that the design has improved so much to make it look like a, oh no, this is, we talk a lot about like toy versus like you know, modern device or whatever, right piece of technology. I think Game Boy Color is like the apex of this field, this is a toy, but it's like a good ass design for a toy. Whereas I feel like Game Boy, the original is them just getting started with it. I think it still is held back by that design that does make it look very brick-like. And like, for me, that isn't appealing to my eyes, right? Yeah, you won me over there. I was thinking A to B, but then the more I think about the brick aspect

of it and how it's been refined over the years and especially looking ahead of like, oh, no, there's Very quickly, we're going to get some really great iterations of this. I think this is a C. You're going to get me to a point now where I'm going to look at this score and be like, God damn, I regret putting that stupid Atari in there because the Game Boy and the Atari don't belong in the same tier together. They simply don't. They simply don't. That's why we have the F tier.

Another argument I want to put out there, I clearly am not going to win with the A here, but it being a brick, it commits to that brick so well from a design point of view, you put that cartridge in and all of a sudden, everything just fits perfectly. That's a good argument. That's a good argument. design. That's a good argument. The little thing slides over,

the little divot in the... Come on. I mean, when you put the game in, it feels so bad. Part of it, not to throw... You know, it is by looks,

but, you know, it's a green screen. Is that something that we should... It grosses me out. It does gross me out, too. And I think that's where I'm out with the C. It's like, that cements it there where I'm like,

ah, beep, nope, it's just a green screen. I don't mind the screen alone with everything else around it, it just throws it all off. C. C. C. C. C. C. I think by the end of this, I started leaning more B, but I think C is where this is going to come down to.

There we go. Moving on, we have the Game Boy Pocket, my first Game Boy. God, this thing's a looker. This is where it gets real interesting, because this thing is sleek. This thing is sexy. This thing came in so many different colors. They weren't really quite ready to have the fun of the, we're going crazy neon and all the stuff.

These were very primary color-focused things. There was just like the primary blue, the primary green, the primary red. Here we have the yellow, the black. The silver one's the one I know of the most. That's like the default one to me. Not the top left one here that we're seeing on YouTube, but the one with all the black buttons, all the black buttons.

This is also where they started to dabble with the translucent. And there was one that I think they called ice blue, and it was one of the sexiest things. That's hot, dude. Come on. Game Boy Pocket's incredible. I somehow skipped this, generate. Like, I completely had no idea this existed.

I thought the Game Boy Pocket was something completely different. I thought it was the mini. Yeah, I thought it was like the little, like, I completely had no idea of this existed. This is awesome. How big, what size is? Look at this. Look at your back pocket.

Look at your back pocket. It's about the exact same size as this. Look at that deep all one. A thicker. Because it had to fit AAA batteries. Look at that sucker. That's, that looks great. So I mean, I think that's the reason I was like, hey, we got to put the last one at C

because this one's way better than that. I just still argue. I feel I would put this at, I mean, for that design, I could argue an S, but I also wouldn't be mad with an A. But I think that it's in the same tier, just higher than. the original Game Boy, but yeah, I... I... I...

I... I would say on that one... I'm going ass. I would go to A. I think there's still room to innovate, but it did eliminate the problem of it being the big brick, right? That was always the big thing about the pocket

as it could fit in your pocket. Everybody loved that. It was, you know, taking what we already loved about the Game Boy, shrinking it down, making a better screen, right? Not green, screen. They changed the curves of it,

so it was a bit more like, it was very angular, like very sharp, like 90 degree angles, and then one side had like the sexy little curve. They knew what the hell that they were doing. And again, offering it in that many colors for a handheld, which was more of the like, let's show off her personality. We're in public. This is a part of me.

They really nailed it there. Yeah, that is the version that, even though I don't think I've ever really, like, thought about that version, clearly because we didn't associate it. That's the version I imagine the Game Boy actually is, right? So to me, that's an A. I would put this A. I freaking love this thing.

I do think there are going to be other things that kind of are a league above it. But man, this thing looks, this is a looker right here. I love this freaking little thing. I'm going to abstain slash, I guess, deprioritize my vote. Because I want to say A, but I've never seen this thing in real life. I don't think. And so I don't feel comfortable. Well, we haven't seen a lot of these things in real life on the console side either.

We're looking at JPEGs. I mean, basically, like JPEG, I'll say A or S. So whatever the rest of the crew is leaning is where I go. A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A. Then we are moving on to The Sega The game gear. Greg is your turn. I had a game here.

I was a Sega boy. I had the game gear. All right. I had my little man purse that I took it to school with to play on the parking lot. $3,000 batteries to play Alien 3. Oh, I'm Ripley, I'm crawling through a tube. You know what I mean? Back to it, you know, Roger was so wrong about the Lynx Gen 2.

But the argument of it just being this little fatty baby, you know what I mean? And being like, at least the Atari Links 2 had like, it felt like a design in mind. Again, it kind of, it's looking like the Duke, it's looking like a convertible. The game gear just looked obese from the story. You know what I mean? It was in color. It was in color. When you see a game playing on it, I think it raises the value of this thing.

Sonic. Man, I was playing Sonic on there. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I was playing Batman returns on there. Don't worry about it, all right? I was playing on there. I was playing on there. 12.

12. You know, I plead the 5th. I think it was a college tuition. Especially like getting energizers. That's like, damn. I think this is the same time Michael Jordan was hawkin rechargeable batteries. So don't worry about it. I use them.

No, I did not. but it doesn't want. I just hate so much about it. Can you bring it back? Yeah, bring it back up because it's just, it's fugly. The start button kind of being half cut off

when nothing else does that. What is the point of the divot like on the right buttons? On the one and two. Bum sweat. Chill out for a second. Here's the biggest problem. Why is the start button there?

My big problem with controller with face button designs is when they curve up like this. Like it freaking sucks. Nobody wants this. And for some reason, handhelds are like, obsessed with doing this, but like the two should be lower than the one, not higher than the one.

Do we agree? That would, I do, but that would also likely add more bezel to this thing. Because then you're having to scoot, the one would then be have to move over more to the right. It can't just go directly up there in that situation because then it'd be right where the start button is. Well, I mean, just, I don't know. Figure it out.

When you say two should be lower than the, you're saying like the two should come down vertically? I'm saying that like it should be this and then. instead of this and this. Because basically, but see, when you're running. You hold this to run as Mario, you hold this to jump.

Yeah, I hate when it's this to run and this to jump. You use the fat of your thumb to jump down. You know what I mean? How's the game? Can we break back a Game Boy? Hold on. Is the Game Boy, does that have like the right way or lower?

The wrong way. I think I'm used to that way. I think I'm used to that way. I think you do. It's why you don't like playing Nintendo games like with the Switch controller because that's how it defaults. It's always so stupid.

Yeah. Well, there's two buttons. Yeah, that's the word that. I'm not thought about that. I need more... Wait, hold on. Give me that a Gameboy. I would give this a D.

Sure. We've created... We've created a bad rubric here. I had somebody who had the game gear and played the game gear, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Somebody called out the TV tuner. Wanted that forever. Never got it. You know what I mean?

Because that's what I needed to do was watch TV. I would say F. Like, I just... No way. I don't have a soft spot for the game gear after owning it and being a part of it. You know what I'm talking about soft spot. We're talking about design here. This is throw it back up.

like it annoys me. This is back to some of the annoyances of the fucking console generation of like why are there so many colors going on on this screen right now? Why is it? The colors go together. Not like this. They don't. Not like this. They do. You have a nice sleek black thing. Then you have these nice, you have white letters. All right. Great. Then it's like now I'm going to throw this red,

green and blue. Now I'm going to put some of the words in green. The start button's blue. The start button's blue. This is a C. The game gear's got one font. Sega's got another font. Portable video game system is a different font altogether. Power and start might be the same font. He's got this one little stupid ass speaker down there. I just don't like it.

That's the least of my problems. The least of my problems are the fonts with it. It's just the shape of it and the sort of body. Like, when you see a car come out with a new body style and you're like oh, I don't like the way the back of the trunk kind of goes with that back tire. I'm seeing these weird ass curves with the D-pad, like it looks like it melted

like when someone was holding it. It's just odd. It reminds me like the material it's made out of, like reminds me, like it looks like something that should be in the show Gumby. And this is something Gumby plays and it doesn't feel like it looks good to hold. It looks like the bed of a truck.

And this guy is real thick, right? Again, bloated. It looks like you could toss that right into a pool. Yeah, it's real thick. It does look you toss into a pool. It's like, I play that. It's going to get on top and I'm going to push them around.

Where do we rate it on our pool? Our pool floaties. So thick and it's heavy, right? Yeah. Okay, yeah. Then that's, to me, that's the antithesis of what a handheld console should be. And I feel like that also needs to like, but again, we're going to throw it out.

We're going to throw that out because that would involve you picking it up. I feel like the ergonomics of seen back. I agree with you. It's heavy, but it's also going for something else, but whatever. Here's the thing, it's heavy,

but it's balanced. Like, it's not like, it's like, it's like, early, not even 90s. Yeah, early,

early, early 90s, like first full color, portable thing. It's heavy because it needed six batteries in it. Like, there's a lot of things like,

yeah, design-wise, though, I feel like they did the best that they could to make a handheld portable version of these games. Best that they could have,

or best that they should have. Should they actually have even done this? 100%. I disagree. This is the best they could have done because like, regardless of how big and chunky the machine is,

I don't give a shit how chunky it is. I'm not rating any of these on that. It still looks ugly. Yes. Like they chose an ugly body style for it. It's an ugly shell. Yeah.

It looks so much better than any of the lynx is. That's so funny because it's like the shell and Gatari Links one looks better. I think this is a D for me. I would put this on the links. I would put this below the links one.

I would say the D for me as well. Again, you don't like saving money. I might put it below the links. No. Dude, that's a lot of touch with the consumer.

This is above the way. I mean, I mean, below the things isn't like to the right of it, right? I think it's glaning indeed no matter what it sounds like.

The game gear for the shell of it is my least of my concerns because it does not look that offense. But that's the look of it. It has no personality. I think my biggest issue is the thickness of it. But I look at that links and I'm like,

no, that's not, that's barely a, I would put, the personality is the colored screen. Like, we need to take that in consideration if we're going to talk shit

about the green of the Game Boy. No, but no, but no, the green of the Game Boy, no, no, but like, the green of the Game Boy is how it looks when it's off. The screen, how the Game Gear looks like that is when it's off as well. The green of the Game Boy is, like, so pronounced and so much more saturated than any of these other screens are when they're off. I'd be fine putting this above the links. Can I see the Game Gear from the back?

While you do that, Casino... You're a nasty man. You're a nasty man, you know? In the chat, Cassino-Balas says, I wouldn't argue too hard for D-tier placements. Ha-ha. Well, Casino, that's what you're a lot. why you're watching us and we're not watching you.

All right. He doesn't care about our job. Because he doesn't mean. You know what I mean? You got, there's go, A, B, C, dude, I'm going out for a smoke break. He doesn't know what you do. He doesn't. Oh, no.

That's nasty. No, we're fucking found the fucking screwing will ass. Oh, no. It's not fair. Put it in a neck. This is why you gotta ask about for the back. Bear, big, the ugly is looking at one. Sometimes you see him in front and you're like, y'all,

you're like, y'all, you're like, y'all, That's great. Then you see the back and you're like, no. Busted ass game gear back I've ever seen in my life. Someone's skating down a hill on it. Plus, you get three more requests for backsides. This goes top of D of what we have so far. I agree.

Top of D. I agree. Fair. That's all good about this. That's not fair. Because it's not. Next up, we have, I don't know. These disorders are so weird.

I'm organized. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Thank you. Game Boy, Is this what we have next? That's what I have on my list. All right, cool. What a guy.

The Game Boy color. Put it an S. No. I say S is one. It's rough, man. This is really rough. I know I'm going to get a lot of shit for this. I think the Game Boy Pocket is superior.

I think that because of the fun color, specifically the teal, I love the color. There's just something about how this feels and even how it looks like how it fucking feels that I just have never vived with entirely. I don't. like how curved it is. I think design-wise, the pocket being very clean and angular gets my vote.

So I put this under the pocket. I know where your design sensibilities lie because the Game Boy pocket is the closest thing to the analog pocket. And they went for those sort of harder edges. This looks like the next iteration going up from the Game Boy standard. This doesn't look like it, this looks like this came out right after the original Game Boy because of all the curved edges. but I think the color variety is something that cannot be denied. There are so many different things you can get here and I'd argue A or S for me.

I don't know exactly where I put it right now. I'll let you all talk about it. I'll think about it. Oh, sorry. I'll go for a... I'm looking right now at a pocket and a color and I get what you're saying, but I can't deny the color.

I can't deny the way that that looks comparatively to the pocket. But you're comparing the best Game Boy color color to the generic default. Sure. That's the one Andy liked the most. That is the one I like the most, actually. I mean, what are you calling Andy's opinion is bad? Andy, you're going to respond?

I do think, I do think that the colors of the Game Boy color do bring it forward a bit, right? The option for the colors. That's all I was going for. I know this is a nostalgia argument, but I take myself back to being a kid and going to school and the other kids pulling out their game boys and being like, oh, you got a red one. Oh, you got a, like, you know, I'm like, you know, I'm. I think there's something so exciting about that, right? The translucent purple that we got pulled up here.

Atomic. Atomic perfect. There's something so cool about, yeah, that variety. I also really love part of the shell design. Those little angles going down from like the D pad and near the buttons, like on the front of these pieces of hardware. It's like it's kind of angular. It's kind of hard to see it unless photos are being taken of it in certain light. But it's just a cool little touch to it.

It's a cool little added thing to the way the hard, the hard. hardware feels. I think the Game Boy Pocket may look cool because of the font they use. I don't love the colorful color. Yeah. I understand why they did that, but, oh, this is a really tough one already. It is because I love it and it's great. And I think all the Game Boy family is, is fantastic. But I do think that the colors are the only thing the game board color really has going for it. But that's a major win. It's a major plus for it. But the quality of the screen, the quality of the screen is not that great. But it's a color screen over the pocket. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm looking... Is that part of the conversation? Well, I mean... I only said that because Tim was using the Game Gear's color screen as like a big... I think that's a strong argument for the Game Boy color. Yeah. Yeah, I think this is above the Game Boy pocket in A. I don't think this is an S tier.

I'm looking at both. Again, it feels like the spot the difference game where I'm like, oh, okay, the B and the A are actually on the buttons. I would say that this is above the... I don't think it's an S. I think it's above the pocket and the A. I mean, I'd be down for A. I'm not mad about it. I love the pocket because it looks like...

Sony made it. It looks like it's like an older sort of Sony hardware the way they're old Walkman's look and whenever Kojima puts out a photo of his Walkman, it's like, that's a cool little device right there. And I think that adult me likes the pocket more, kid me love the color more. And that's where I'm trying to like differentiate. Yeah. That's kind of why I'm at too. Cyborg says, Barr, can we bring up the Game Boy Color's fat ass please? Like I cannot be undersold. So do I. I got a dumber. I like my car. I'm not counting that is the counting is something. Andy. Andy, you want to pull it up. I'm just saying that like it's not great. Like that thing is round

and obtrusive. I mean, you could never just, you can never take away the memory of me though. Waking up Christmas Eve. Could we? Wake it up, Christmas Eve. I got my game, my green game by color with Pokemon yellow. Honestly, like comes out. I think the curves

get a, you know, like a personality, you know? Personality. Yeah, I don't mind the back. Yeah. That ass gets into the personality. I mean, I mean, that's what you do. Yeah, you try to sway us away from him, but I'm like, that's a good ass. I don't think it doesn't do anything that makes me not like it.

If I have to be the fifth vote, I'll be the fifth vote. Do you? I don't think I don't think. I was the only one to... Yeah, I put it to a... I didn't have what, Greg S, Tim. I'd go bottom A. I would go top A.

And then what are you? I think I've been brought back down to... I guess the problem that I'm having, I'm trying to predict the feature here of, If I'm not putting this at S, what am I putting at S? And I don't know anything I'm putting above. You think there's stuff out there? I know specifically what I'm rocking for. I'm going to say A.

Hi, A, though. I will go A above the pocket. The color screen and all the different colors. People just remind me about the SP. We'll get there when we get there. But yeah, that's good. God, I'm so jealous. I wish I had one.

My next door neighbor had one. I was so jealous. I wanted to steal it so bad. Roger's gonna put the N-gauge at S and also Roger, do you want to tell us tell the chat what you discovered today? I had a moment where I looked at the N-gages

like, oh, I remember the N-gauge and then I was like, oh shit, N-gauge, like engage. And I didn't realize that. I thought I kind of associated with the ear, the gauges of the ear, but then I... And that's spelled differently also. And also, what does it have to do with video games? I mean, I don't know, I don't know.

It was a phone. Yeah, yeah. It was a phone, yeah. It was a phone? It sure was. That's cool. Okay. I didn't know that. Hey, we're going to keep talking.

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Grab him for your favorite best friend. Christmas is only five months away. Now, Greg, I'm going to need some help here. Sure. Because this is a big reveal. You said when you left, and I think you're going to the next console, or handle. You said what's next? Barrett said it.

And then there was a collective, I don't even know what that. That is. And we stopped everybody from looking at it. And Bless specifically said, I'm scared to go get a donut because I don't want to miss this. Okay, good. So it's a hold on one second, okay? Because I have heard of this. Oh.

You heard, tell us. I have never seen it. I don't know exactly what it is. This reminds me a lot of when I, in the early days of the kind of funny games cast, back in 2015, where you were telling me about the Sega Master Drive. And I was like, what the actual fuck is that? Because as far as I knew, the Genesis was the first Sega system. So I was like, I've never even heard of this fucking thing. A master system?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Which now... You're a Master Drive. I was like, what were we driving to? Oh, well, what's the Master Drive? Same thing, right? Is there a Master Drive?

There is a Master Drive, yes. That, with a Master Drive is what Genesis was called outside of the United States. Okay, I'm missing some things up. So, Mega Drive, I'm sorry, what it was called. Master System is the Sega Master System, which I started with. Masters System. The Genesis is Genesis, and then outside of the U.S., it was, in fact, the Mega Drive. When Greg saw him was a Sega Master System, I'm like, what?

what the fuck are you talking about? It blew my mind. This is another one of those situations where I've heard of this, but I've heard of the Sega Nomad, a handheld system. I always thought that this was something that got canceled that didn't actually come out.

What the hell is the Sega Nomad? I'll read from Wikipedia to give you exact, right? Wow. The Sega Nomad, also known as the Genesis Nomad, is a handheld game console manufactured by Sega and released in North America in October 1995. The Nomad is the portable variation of the Sega Genesis home console.

What the nomad was is you took your cartridges and put them into this and played on the go. It was a portable Genesis. This was the Steam Deck reference I made off the air. Of like, oh, everything's so cool to have a Steam Deck. We had this. Sega, ahead of their time for so many reasons, right? The Sega Channel, right?

Where you plugged it in, you dial up. You had all the, you know, Genesis games you wanted at the touch of your fingers. It was all there. They were ahead of the game, and yeah, the Nomad was that your Genesis games on the road. They were doing what Nintendo don't. Yeah.

How many years after the release of Genesis? This is 90. 95 is when they did it. And what the... You're asking me. And that's tough because I got the Genesis in first grade.

So that would have been what they're citing here at 88. Oh, Japan, 88, 89 in North America. So, yes. Let's see it. The Sega Nomad. How fat's this...

Oh. Yeah. Yeah, you can see the problem. You can see the problem right off the back. I hate that D-pad. Yeah, no. That's the first thing you think about.

Yeah, look at it. I can't pinpoint what I hate the most. That wasn't Genesis problem, though. Genesis had, I hate their buttons, I hate their button placement. They were always like just being a little too mushy and weird about everything. Dude, it's the material they're using. It looks like the, like, it looks like the center console of an old, like, Ford Explorer. Like, it's just that material looks like it's something that you would put a cup in for a cup holder.

I hate that. The screen looks lopsided because of the bezel design. Yeah, that's true too. I don't like. The button shapes are bad. And, like, that material for the buttons don't look great. I mean, that's hard to judge because that's one that I'll need to get my hands on. I actually impress them, but they don't look like they press good.

It looks like you bought this before. It looks like you bought it before a field trip. And it looks like a disposable camera kind of as well from behind. I don't like the way everything is skewing towards like, let's heavily wait things on the left. Like this screen bezel is going wider on the left side. The no bad logo is bad. The low bat period. Like, come on, y'all.

So again, to give you more context for all of this, which I think is important. Remember that this came out after the. the launch of the Sega Saturn. So you're talking about, why didn't I pick it up, right? It was the fact that, well, I was already on the path to Saturn at that point, right? I already, I already been tricked into getting a Saturn at that point. So I was

already done with my Genesis at that point. I probably traded all my stuff into Funco Land. The cool thing about the nomad as well, though, was it did have a TV out. So you could play your Genesis that way and put it out to that way. Man, how I mean, we talk about messaging nowadays or like, how is Nintendo Switch going to really message that this is like just another version

more powerful thing? How the hell do you, market this thing back in the day where people have such a little concept of what console and video games are. But the idea of like this thing can play your video games from the Genesis, but like the one from several years ago, not the current one, because I know every Latino household calls everything in Nintendo. So like it's not the Jaguar one. That's what's wild. I had no idea this thing was like an actual functioning hardware. One of the things I do want to toss into assets. It's just a YouTube video. I pulled the thumbnails great bear and I assume the video will, I would like to show what it looks like with a cartridge in it.

Yeah. I think that's very important. We haven't actually talked about tears of this thing yet. I think that this is pertinent information for us to see how these cartridges are sliding into this. Tungerbundrable on YouTube Jad says, ass check. Yeah, I was going to ask. Do you want to use your ass check?

No, I'm not going to use my ass check. He's not. He's not redeemed enough. Nothing's going to sway. I do want the cartridge check. That's what I expected. That is it. So we're looking like putting a Game Boy.

game in a Game Boy Advance. Yeah, this is, you see, this is some hack a hack thing, though. This is the mega Everdrive. It looks like it's got everything involved. I just grabbed it random. Ever drives a cool word.

It is a cool drive. Yeah, I'm looking to see what, I'm not, don't get me wrong, it's not going to get much better. Yeah, here's one with Sonic 3 in it, right? That looks better.

Barrett, I'll send you this link and assets as well. I'm about to shed it here. You could have been playing Sonic anywhere, you know what I mean? That's cool. As God intended right there. God did you meant to be. Yeah, he's an ugly little spud.

You know what I mean? Like, you know, not much to write home about, right? Again, ahead of their time. What it was. Pretty damn wild. Now, I'm just going to get ahead of this. I'm going to throw a number or a letter out there first. This is not an F.

This is a D. This is not an F. I just want us to think back to what some of the F tier consoles were. Like there is some like hideous, ugly ass like we have way too much shit going on. This is bottom of D. This goes. Actually, actually, actually, I'd like to see the tier list. I'm already thinking this is probably going to be F tier for me because I think of this is not your first rodeo.

This thing didn't come out in 88, the first handheld thing. This was, you've had several years to know what looks good and what looks cool and you've had different console generations to know what buttons would look cool. And nothing about the choices they made here design-wise look cool. Yeah. For me, F is the tier of, oh, it gave me a visceral reaction immediately. And that's what that was for me. I saw that. I was like,

that doesn't look right. That doesn't look right. That's an F tier. To me, it goes middle deep because it looks exactly right. It looks like a portable Genesis. I know what a Genesis is.

I know what you need to play Genesis. And that's what that is. I say F tier and bottom of that. I put it under the links to. Wow. I concur. For me, it's like the doctor's concur.

It's like the ad experimental album that an artist makes where it's like, it could be good experimental, right? Because it's weird and different. But then I think there could be bad experimental where it's like, oh,

you're just not hitting it, right? It's like when Lil Wayne made it, would make his rock and roll out. And this for me is that of like, you swung as Sega. Like, you really swung for this, but I think for me it was a swing and a miss.

Lil Wayne would I was pretend he was playing guitar and it just, it was like, like when somebody throws a baseball for the first thing, you're like, that person's never thrown a baseball in their life. Like, Lil Wayne's never actually played guitar. Like, it's just like,

that's not plugged in right there. This thing looks so ugly, by the way, like, Barrett bringing it up and putting it in the ranking made me hate it even more. Yeah. It looks like it's supposed to.

camera. After that, we had the S&K NeoGeo Pocket. Oh. Interesting. Whoa. A joystick? Whoa. Neo Geo more of an arcade type situation. So we're trying to mimic the arcade sticks. What's the name of the story? The Neo Geo Pocket. I just want to see. Are there other colors of this because I hate this color? And if there's like a neutral color, I'll be like, this is pretty good.

I feel like this is the type of thing that there are different shells for. and I feel like I appreciate that because I think that while this isn't my favorite color way it works like I think this is we're getting to the point where it's like all right cool this thing can be in different colors and look good like a Game Boy color like a Game Boy Pocket so I appreciate this

The dots kind of meshing with the speaker grill is really annoying me Oh There's other colors I'm looking at other but they're okay so there are other Cause I not to be confused because there's the Neo Geo Pocket color Which we're going to get to after this

Gotcha gotcha gotcha good call good call good This is a lot cool than I thought it'd be, though. But this is still like high C, low B territory for me. Yeah, I'm leaning C. I would go C because we have a color variation, and it looks very similar. So we'll see what that looks like. I'll go see.

Yeah, I definitely, I couldn't in good faith put this above the Game Boy. But it is really cool. I'm down from middle C. Yeah, I agree. Middle C, okay. I'm fine with that. Wait, did this have color? This one doesn't.

Oh, you're, exactly. Okay. Neo Geo pocket color Put the ad out Next up Neo Geo Pocket color This is a cute little fucker

It is It looks It looks metal And I fuck with that Very heavy Like I like the design of that It feels like Oh this is weighty

I know it's not I don't think it is I know it's not I feel like this to me Looks cheap Oh no I like the little dots I like the grooving around

The analog stick Like they have a Translucid one as well I don't like the look of the button I don't like the look at the stick. I put this one under. I don't like just way too much text at the top.

The colors. I don't like the color in red popping like that. The translucent one is pretty freaking sick. This feels kind of ahead of its time. Because of these sort of purple buttons, the purple translucent buttons on the sort of frost white translucent body style is looking real good. I don't think any of these color ways look good

with the NeoGeo logo being red and the color font being red there. I see that. I wish they would have coordinated that. I put this under the pocket. I put it above it. I put it above it the pocket below the Game Boy. I agree with that. Same.

But I'm very impressed by this thing. This is cool. I think I would have it with him after all and put it below, but we don't have the votes. I'm watching a video right now. I need to find 11,000 votes. Bessing around with one.

And even when you, when it's on with games playing on it, I think it looks pretty cool. It's really cool. Yeah, that's good. I didn't know this thing existed. That's awesome. That's beautiful.

Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. Oh, that's sexy. Come on. Yeah. I mean, above the game boy? What's up, lesson?

I mean, I'm not going to go back so much. What if? What if? Okay, we got to do it, y'all. The thing that I saw the most commercials for ever. The Tiger. Holycom. Oh.

I don't even know what this is. Oh, it has a stylus on the bottom. Yeah. Oh, ahead of its time. Buck this thing. I know. I'm going to tell you all that right now. Is the menu sound and pause menu like curved?

Like, is that like on like a little? That's disgusting. Is that a pen? Is that like a stylus? What is that? Yeah, if you look at the screen, it's like a, it looks like a graph calculator. It was like those really old, ugly pressure sensitive screens. I respect the swings.

Big swings being made here. I don't know if they're hidden. Yeah, this is definitely a Palm Pilot error, right? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah, this sucks. A lot of, a lot of, there's enough about it that is like, if they flip the silver and the black colors,

and if they kept the blue act I love those blue accents being there but the the shape and the look of the D-pad looks awful yeah yeah it looks like a like a screw or something like that

this whole stylist deal at the bottom do we have any video footage of this didn't have cameras back the hell do you get it but I agree with you the balance the colors are good the balance of the colors is off

the biggest problem for me is the button placement of the face buttons like what are we even doing here like I don't I don't want to play games on this thing ever yeah no it doesn't look like a game machine no yeah that's where i was going is like the last episode we talked about you know inviting play looking at something that you want to play that you want to turn on that is something that my dad would have and it would be like a little like oh by the way you can't play games on that i guess it plays video games yeah this is an f2 this does not look like a

video this is not look at the new jill like this neogio pocket should have been b let's be real let's be look at this one it's on the list it's clear that's a cool one that's very clear edie Yeah, I'd go For this one, I think this is worse than the nomad So yeah, I'd go bottom F I agree with that, fair I was picking all these up I was looking at the speakers on all of them

Because I'm like, when did we figure out speakers? Because I do not like how a lot of these speaker placements Look, and just like, I don't know The design of how the speakers look on the consoles I just don't like them All right, I think things might get a little spicy here Oh, here we go The Game Boy Advance

We got one right here, everybody Coming in three different colors We had the Indigo, the Arctic White and then this translucent purple. This is my original one, everybody, from my childhood. In 2001. First console, I got day one. Wow.

Yeah. Wow. I think that's right. Our first game thing, I got day one. Yeah, I'll let you guys go first because I have so much nostalgia for this. D, top of D. Holy shit. What the fuck?

Thank you. We can move on. This is a weird one because the body style looks like it needs the Game Boy color font and fun choice. where that advanced font is just way too advanced looking for how this thing, how doofy this thing is. And I mean that in a nice way. Like I think it looks like a fun little thing to use,

but there's a lot of things that just don't match up for me. I think the shape of it, like, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I don't know why you wouldn't just have four buttons instead of, like, the shoulder buttons, I think are kind of a useful thing. The shoulder buttons are great. This thing needed four face buttons. Yeah. It's honestly bringing in the feel of the buttons is bring this way down for me. Because I love the look of it. It is very, it is nostalgic. I touch all these buttons. I hate all these buttons. Most of these buttons at the very least.

I mean, think about what it felt like fresh. You know, like that's an old, that's an old. I mean, you don't think this is mint? You don't think this is mint? No battery camera. Yeah, no, I don't know. I, I love it. I have a deep nostalgia for this. But yeah, I would, I would, I would, I would, give, I would give it low B. I think I would go low B. I'm impressed. I thought there was going to be a much bigger fight for the S tier or something crazy like that. Which I think is, it's a huge problem.

It's a huge problem. And on top of that, functionality wise, shout out to them for allowing you to play Game Boy games. Absolutely. But design wise, that was insane. You just have a freaking like an inch popping out of this thing. What a, what a dumb call. If you took off the shape and the look of the buttons and the name and like, you know,

you wipe my, you men in black. that thing on my brain would just wipe my whole memory which is pretty yeah I couldn't even think of that maybe I've already been neuralized like this looks like something that wasn't really made by Nintendo and I think it's because of the body shape just looking so odd it looks like a tiger electronics

thing with how like the grooves go up top and the grooves go on the bottom I wouldn't go that far I see where you're going with it but I like the diagonal design of the start and select matching that I do like grills I feel like there's a nice balance to this whole thing and I think that the

I mean, Roger, you have it right here. The kind of the surrounding frame of the whole thing. Like the gray frame like from the shoulder buttons all the way around it. Like there's good design elements here. Like I do think it there definitely feels N64 GameCube era, you know? Yes, that's a great call out there. Yeah. Yeah.

I understand what Andy's saying, but this feels like the elevated, sophisticated version of that, right? Where the tiger electronics were just like, I don't know, we fucking put all these angles and all this stuff. This feels like, oh no, we refined it. We made it nice. This is a good looking comment. Well, a lot of it is the, like, once you add the buttons back into how the body side looks, it's like, okay, this looks much better because Nintendo knows what they're doing with feel and look of things.

I do got to give it a lot of points, though, for all the different color variations. Got a bunch of different colors. That's true. Yeah, but does it, though? Glacier, Arctic, Indigo. That's three. Those are the three. Yeah.

I see those colors. I would not give the Game Boy Advance a shout out for its color way options because it's a big bummer. It launched with those three, and, like, they all looked. pretty damn similar. You know what I mean? Like that's not that different from the Arctic white and the indigo.

It's like they're all one very small family of colors. I'll tell you what sucks even more. The glacier one, which is like see through and look through. Now I'm just completely going against my prior argument because I thought there'd be more than three,

honestly. They went with the same gray, white-ish, off-white colors for the buttons on the glacier device. So like there's no contrast there. It's a lot of misopportunities here. I'll talk about that later.

What? What? Anyways, yeah, there wasn't a lot of color ways because this thing was ugly. It had no character and they immediately got away from it and made a better version. Thank you, D. It was not immediate about my Eddie stretch. It's a B. It's a B.

This is a B. I put this under the Game Boy. Whoa. No. I think this is a B. Well, me and Tim say under the Game Boy, then, where do you say, bless? B. No.

I never liked how it looked. Even as a kid, it reminds you of a middle Pokemon evolution, right? Like, I look at this. and I see war turtle. You know what I mean? I see Ivisoor. I see Charmillion. Okay, chill the fuck out.

It was that operative period. It was the teenager of the fucking Nintendo handheld devices and eventually grew into an FD. This looks like you were playing this and on the go and then when you get home you'd play Mara Sunshine

and act like it was a good game. So wait, where are we out here? You got two Ds and then you were to see underneath the Game Boy so that would be the highest you can get. There we go. Drop it. That should be below the Neo Geo.

Um, then next up we have, oh, maybe. Oh, no. Oh, is this the micro? This isn't an order, but that's okay. We'll do it. The Game Boy Micro. This is what I was thinking the pocket was. Yeah.

Uh, it essentially was, but for the, for the advanced generation. Where's the start at the bottom? Yeah. Yeah. So the whole thing about this, Raj, is this thing is not much bigger than a Game Boy Advance cartridge itself. Oh, okay. The whole point of it is how small can we get.

Yeah. Um, so there's a lot. It's a cool design. I don't like it. Yeah. I don't like it. Who wants small screens? Why don't we want smaller screens?

Tiner pocket? This looks like another thing that wasn't made by Nintendo. Yeah. It feels like a mom or something. This seems like you're getting a mall kiosk. Yeah. Yeah.

And also we're talking about playability, right? We're taking about something that you want to play. I would not want to play this more than 20 minutes. Like, oh, that was this fun little thing. I'm not... It's a novel thing that you show off to your fellow students about in classical. This looks like you came into McDonald's happening.

Yeah, you show your mom this and you're like, oh my God, look how cool video games can be. They can be so small now. It's gonna be so small. This is the tiniest video game ever. I don't know. I'm leaning D. Because it's not offensively bad.

Yeah, exactly. No, yeah. I would go above game gear. Yeah, it's the high. I agree with that. ID. Okay, now here we go, baby. Game Boy Advance.

SP. Oh, clamshell. S-tall. All the way to the top, baby. SP tier. Don't you waste your time. What a great system. This is an S-tier for a S-tier.

I agree. Look at that. Hobalt blue. You can't beat that. I think a lot of my perception of the Game Boy Advance, I know this is going to be offensive to a lot of people. But I think a lot of it was based off of that design of the original advance. I'm like, I don't know.

I just don't like how it looks. When I went to my next door neighbor Freddy's house and he had a Game Boy Advanced SP and he handed it to me and I was playing. I think it was like Spider-Man 2 for the Game Boy Advance. I thought it was a next-gen system. And that's the thing. When I saw the SP, I felt cheated. I was like, there's no way that they just put this console that I have,

this shitty fucking console with the, no backlight. And they made that thing? Yeah. Can you fucking believe that? It's different, dude. It's insane. It's different. It's also worth pointing out just because we're old, at least me or whatever.

Remember, this is the first rechargeable Nintendo. This wasn't eating up double-e-it. I remember that was outrageous for me when I heard about it, and then when I was finally urged to buy it because of extreme... Lost the headphone jack with that, but a worthy loss for being able to recharge. This thing is a thing of beauty. The clicky shoulder buttons felt great. I mean, obviously, all the buttons on this thing feel great.

The design choice of the cartridge going in at the bottom, that's fucking cool. Awesome as hell. The clamshell design, the indented screen. The Game Boy Advance logo, to Andy's point earlier, fits this thing. It fits here.

This is so awesome. I love this thing so goddamn much. And if it wasn't S-tier enough, if we're going to bring the colorways into it, this thing looked good in any color. And it was the first time a special edition console was like, oh, oh, what's possible out there?

Can we bring up the NES edition, Game Boy Advance SP? Oh, baby. this thing was fucking hot. Insane. That was the one where you were like, every time they put out a new one, you're like, fuck.

Now the Famicom one sucks. The Famicom one sucked. The Famicom one sucked. Well, but the Nintendo was, luckily we're here. And you see the future of Nintendo in this one,

which is great to see. It's such a solid console, but then you're like, oh, I see where this is going to go. Yeah, that's crazy. This is it. This was the shit. And then out of the clamshell blessed.

Like, you can continue the design. Like, I need this. The Matt Gray is so nice as well. The screen rights. there looks like the PlayStation screen flip up.

It just looks awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imagine if like the OG Game Boy Advance didn't exist and you went straight from color to the Game Boy Advanced SP. You might have murdered children. You would see that in magazine and immediately like, you know, phone starts come out your mouth. Hospitals are filled in the brain.

What happened? Oh, they just announced the SP. So unanimous ass, right? Yes. There we go. Then, Roger. The Nokia End Games. Oh, yeah, bro. Let's look at this one. Wow You're telling me this is a phone? I couldn't know

I didn't see the top button I thought that was maybe I thought it was a little nod You know what I mean? Like oh we'd make phones But it's also starting to select I'm gonna tell you this right now This thing is even musher than it looks

These buttons are raised In the curviest, ugliest way Fucking possible The puck Like shape of this thing Oh it's bad You don't want to play in portrait mode Man

I can't tell you I do I really can't Now here's the thing about this This was the first time you could play Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Portably in a way that was like, this shit looks like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater on the PlayStation 1. Holy fucking hell. And I still didn't want to do it.

I went to GameSpot, stop, and they had a demo unit. I got to play Tony Hawk. I'm like, there's nothing I enjoy about this. And that is saying everything. You would have a lot of time on that one. Is this also a unanimous F? Were you there? Yeah.

This is an F for me, especially at this era that we're at. Like, there's no way you can make something looking like this terribly when we are this modernized. And I want to take that even further. Can you bring it back up? Pretty cool. The most egregious crime that I think that the Engage does is the aspect ratio of the screen because it was trying to be a mobile game device at a time

that we just were not ready for that at all. This thing sucks. I am shocked. I am looking at the gameplay right now, Tony Hotspo Skater for the Engage, did not realize that this was what it was doing. This was the most next-gen thing possible. Like you look at this and I honestly thought it was going to be playing some 8-bit bullshit.

Can you send this to assets? Yeah. Because I want people to see. And the vertical screen is crazy. I feel like they had a Splinter Cell game on there too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I remember playing that on my dad's phone eventually.

They started bored in those. They're like, we can't just have this game on just that gauge. Oh, someone did say Spleter Cell. Yeah, yeah. What's playing some Splinter Cell? Oh, wow. This is nuts. It's crazy.

But then you get into gameplay and it is, I thought it was, When Tim mentioned it first, I was like, surely it's Game Boy style Tony Hawk. No. You're in Foundry? Warehouse. Thank you, sorry. Foundry was three. But yeah, man. That's sick.

Moving on. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, we had to rank this motherfucker. This looks like the underground version of Warehouse. It's not. It's not. Is this the, okay, never mind. Can you bring up the tier list?

F tier, very bottom. Yeah. Yeah. You're off the hook, Tiger Game.com. Next up, we do have the Nintendo DS. Oh no, this is the DS.

This is the opposite where I only had the DS lights. And then when I saw this, it's like, there's no way, there's no way that they released this. That's crazy. Yeah, no. I, here you go. Oh, shit. Here comes Mario's best friend.

I want to argue that this is F'd here. Yeah. It was a bad system. It took all the, Bad form factor. Bad buttons. The raised touchpad that didn't feel good and when the clamshell closed it didn't feel like

it really closed. This was right around. This was literally with the Game Boy Advance SP. There was a thing of beauty. I don't want to sound crazy so can you bring the tierless back up? This one second. Damn, I didn't realize the vibes around the DS were like this.

I thought people would have been more... That's why the light was like so revolutionary. And I honestly, I'm looking at a picture of an OGDS Not sure I've ever seen one of these in real life Dude I hate the OGDS Yeah look as much as I hate it I looking at this I would say it's F but like I

Being real I think it's a D on this To your list I agree It's got to be above the It's above the links Yeah I mean we gotta be honest with ourselves Is it? Yeah

Because the Atari Link should be in the F tier Respect the links We fucked up I go above links I go above links I go above links Fair enough Uh

I would go above the game gear but that's just me. Better button placements. Like, come on, game gear. Yeah, I mean, I'm down with that. You guys down with that? Weird body. No, I'm not.

Really? Wow. Closing this thing sucked. And that's the whole point of it. The design is bad of the DS. But we're going on, I mean, just looks alone, though. Like, the body style of the game gear is, again, it looks like it melted in your hand. The shapes of the buttons, like, the DS is not much better.

but I don't think that it's, you know, as bad or worse than the game gear. I hate the colors of it. Like, it's literally just like, it's not offensive. It's boring. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that. We can leave it there. I'm fine below Game Gear. Yeah, I agree.

More look at the links, though. I'm like, bumped out up to S-tier. Who's with me? I might just say C-tier, but, you know. Next up, we have the, um, D-S-I. Oh, baby. Here we go. This is what I remember.

DS-L-Lite. DS-Lite. D-Lite. D-L. for the DSI. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. What an upgrade. You know what I mean? It's like, let's just solve all the fucking problems of this first ugly ass thing. I had the red one. I love that console so much.

I had the white DS Lite. This reminds me a lot of the Game Boy Pocket, where it's like, let's just solve all the problems of the first iteration. I do think it lacks a little bit of personality overall, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. My gut says to go A for this one. with that because I think I don't want to spoil anything but you know we have some iterations of this that I think might be interesting so I would give this at an an A I agree

I love the DS light again I'll never forget it's so similar for me with the advance of Game Boy Advance launch I remember in the EGM's coverage of it being like I don't like what's happening no and then when they drop the SP I was like I gotta get that and the same thing here where DS drops and I was like that is ugly as hell I don't want that and then DS light

dropped and I was like I got that and whatever Mario game was out at the same time of it I love the look of it. I love the feel of it. It might be S for me if they went with different button colors. Because looking at the, like the, they have the ice blue variant, and all the buttons are ice blue, and they have that sort of pink kind of like rose gold looking thing, and all the buttons are the same color. If they just went a little bit different there, it might go higher for me.

But I would put this A. It's a very solid-looking, a little machine. I agree. Is that our first A? No, it's not. We're avoiding B like the plague. Hey, man. I'd go top a I would go top is I would go top I would go top a that's a gorgeous little

thing the clamshell is just so cool especially for a handheld to snap it put in your pocket not worried I like the color or I guess I like the pocket more than the DS light I would go below color but I don't got the votes you know I'll go below color oh shit maybe I got yeah I would go below color fuck I got the votes everybody got the votes but again Barrett put it on I would put it below pocket too but that's just me do I mean I mean I would also put it below pocket oh do we have two Whoa! We did it! No, we did it, everybody!

Let's go, justice. All right. Now we have the DSI. Now is the DSI exhale? Was there multiple? This is not the same picture you showed us? I swear it's different. This is not the light that we just saw.

Yeah, because it has the Wi-Fi stuff, right? The Wi-Fi, the charger and the power button are all different. What's the difference between the eye and the light? DS is such a blank spot for me. camera in the center. And I like this one less. You know what I mean? It's just looking at you the whole time

where you're playing? And this one, is this an XL? This one's not. But there is a DSI XL. Okay. Is that also going to be? And this, correct me if I'm wrong, this one couldn't play GBA games.

Right, the light I could put in the DS games and then on the bottom I could pull out the thing and put in my GBA games. I don't remember. That's what the chat's saying. Thanks, chat. Thanks for my back on that one. Yeah, then for that, I think it would be

A, but it would be at the bottom. Yeah. I agree. See, I would say B. Wow. Really? Yeah. I'd go. I mean, look at it. It's just, I, it's something about the personality that's lacking. Granted, again, D.S. Light, I will always think of as the white one, which I think looks better than the black one we were looking at. But, yeah, DSI, I would put it to B. Yeah.

There you go. I buy that. Yeah. They're the same thing. No, we just went through all the ways. I mean, but like, but we're going by look. Yeah. I know, but like, the actual little details, it's like the same thing, but just, like, worse in a bunch of ways. Yeah.

And we also talked about like ports and stuff from the last time. And I know that's not being like as applicable, but this is the first time it's like, oh no. They usually removed the whole port. Shouldn't the DSIP below the pocket? I thought we had that conversation. You did, yeah.

Yeah, those votes happened. It was a fast one. It was a fast one. I told me. They all over, ah, I'm sorry, Barry. I feel like a third person said something, but like they didn't really mean it, you know? It's one of those things as usual, Barry.

You put it on the thing. Your ruling was iron. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'll bring it back up to the top of it. I guess I'm just of the mind that like the DSI while worse than the D S light doesn't look a whole ranking less like that's kind of crazy

But I think that's showing how close the D S light was hanging on to A You know I mean? Damn, all right. Because we'll, I mean, we're gonna get some other Dses in a second. Yeah, we are. We're here for quite some time.

The DSI XL. I thought it was gonna be a fast one. DSI XL. There is no such thing. It kind of funny. Yeah, sure. Roger, is this what? Did they not get, no.

Did they not get, like, sexy with some of the designs? Like, sexy as in, I guess, colorful was more what I mean. They have, like, a kind of shiny burgundy-looking one. It's an ugly color choice. Because Andy was talking about, yeah, like, the coloring of the buttons and stuff like that earlier. And I'm like, I'm looking at these, and I'm like, man, these, they look sleek. Uninspired. But they don't look exciting to me.

Yeah. I would give, I would put this above the DSI just because it's a bigger screen, right? And I think that, sure, we don't have the GBA slide. I don't think this one has a GBA slot either. But I think the bigger, bigger screen is a massive boost, especially when you see that thing and turn on. You're like, fuck, this is good. I needed this.

I agree with Solzin and the YouTube chat saying, too born a B and A. I agree. I think this is probably a B for me. I agree with that, too. I think this is high B, yeah. Okay. I don't think it's as good as the DS light.

The DS light just closes so perfectly, and like what Greg was saying about the white version. It's so clean. It's a nice ceiling sound like the, it's like a little soft touch. Yeah. Pah, pa. Sip-s-s-pap!

All right. Hib-it-a! Exactly. Now, we get. To The ESP. Let's have a conversation, everybody. Let's have a conversation.

S tier. No. No. Above the Game Boy Advancement. No. This is the best. Because we're not to V. It's the best.

Fuck that knob. Fuck that knob. I don't like that stick. That stick. It sucks. Is it about how it feels? Yes, it is. It is apparently.

Apparently it is. I love Sony products. They got better as they went on. This is an A for me. I love this thing. This is not an S. though. This is an S because the buttons are the actual size they should be.

The X, the square, the triangle, the circle. He's already making his case against the fucking Vita. Yeah, I mean, this thing is better. This is just simply better than the Vita. The shoulder buttons feel better. The D-pad feels so much better, and it's the right size. The nub, I agree, is not the highlight of this thing. But visually, the nub looks cool. The buttons

on the bottom, they all feel good. They're every function that you need. Too many on the bottom row there. And just also the size and the shape of both the PSC and let's be honest, the Vita, very, too awkward to hold. Oh, wow. No, dude, this thing ergonomically feels so damn good.

The size of this screen, perfect. No. The quality of the screen, fan fucking tastic. This thing is beautiful. It's, like, I love this thing. I already said, I love this thing. This is an A-Rank for me. What keeps it away from the S-Rank is that it doesn't look like the PSP Vita or the PSVita.

And the buttons on the bottom, it gets so cluttered down there. There's so much shit down there. And Greg even said, you're not using most of them most of the time. I think this is a B. I think this is a B. I think we're letting our nostalgia glasses cloud us. And you look at the Vita and it's like, oh, no, this is an A. No.

No, the Vita. Save the Vita. I think PSP is A. I think PSP is A. I think this is a N. It's also got the yellow charging port. Like, what the fuck are we doing here? Yeah, it's a lot.

We're making technology. If we're turning a console into a handheld. If we're talking about the actual design of it, it is a B. Yes. This is an A. A. I think, top of A, then.

Top of A. This is as high as possible. I love the PSP. as everyone knows, I'm sure we'll talk about many PlayStation Vita handheld in a second. But like I would say, for me,

it's an A and I would put it at top of A as well. I agree. I love the PSP, but everything we're calling out too many buttons or this, that the other, like I don't agree with the form factor business. I've always thought it felt really good.

Loved having my pocket. I would be the crazy person putting the extended battery in there too. So I was rock band unplug and left and right. But I love that thing. We didn't even talk about all the different color combinations. They had a lot of really good looking.

And there's another Fatsna Permanon. Come on. The 2000. And that extra. No? Well, there is a PSP 2000 as well. Well, yeah, I'm talking about the go. Is that on this list list? You should be. There it is. The PSP go. I mean that. Are we on to the PSP go now? Here we are. Yeah. S. C. S. D. So I wanted to put the PSP as B because I wanted to put this at A. This is a great looking concept. I see or this little guy got ahead of its time. Of course, let's talk about it. We're getting out there.

Look at this nub. Look at the place under that nub. Can you imagine. Well, we've already talked about how the nub doesn't matter anymore. From, like, the phones that do this, you know? Like, this is awful. This is awful. And what I hate the most about it is how it looks opened up. Put in your pocket, be ready to go. It's a cool, okay shape.

It looks like a Vita when it's closed. Fucking metal gear on this. You kidding. It looks like a PSP when it's closed. You open it up this whole, like, uneven business of... Yeah. I just don't like it. I've also changed my mind, actually.

I don't think this is an A because I forgot that this is the all digital one, right? They were all, yes, all PSP goes through all digital. No, no, but I'm saying, like, the PSP was. had the UD and then this one didn't do the MD. Fuck that. But that's not about this. We talked about the slots. We talked about the slots.

We talked about ports. That is something that we brought up a port. I could see that there wasn't a port on that one. You can't see there's no port on it. I mean, I just, I think the buttons even smaller. Get the fuck out. I also really, you know what I love this little guy? You know what I hate about it?

See. The empty slot above, like the empty space above the little nub. Fucking Goldilocks over here. There's too much on this PSP. There's too little on this PSP. You got to find a good balance. You got to find a balance. Also, also this nub sucks.

absolutely. It's like the worst nub that we've ever had. Somehow they made the PSP nub, which was already bad somehow worse. The 3DS nub was worse. Oh yeah, that was real bad. But I'm just talking about PlayStation. Yep. So yeah, looking here.

The nub. Man. So I'm saying B. I go right where Barrett has it. Yeah. Above game and watch under NeoGeo Pocket. Fuck. You guys I would go above Game Boy Advance. No, I'd go below Game Boy Advance. You know what, Tim, I think so three of us say C.

Yeah. Gotcha. Tim, I'm with you on that. I like that placement before, but, because I like the NeoGeo pocket better, actually. So where the votes? Because I'd go again. I'd still vote S to you.

I'd fuck all, y'all, I don't care. I would be in between the pocket color and the pocket. How do we feel like this? I love this. Yeah. Because I keep thinking about the Frost one with the purple buttons and I have that image. Remember there was a white PSP goes one.

Oh, that changes everything from. Cool, there we go. The white one is pretty sick, though, let's be honest. You know what it rhymes you of? I used to sell a lot of a Sony Xperia goes, and it was like the one of you can play stupid-ass phone. I'm going to need a second for this other console that we're about to get to because...

Also, I don't think PSP 2000's on who. Nothing to matter. It's not. Yeah, it's not. I wasn't able to... I would argue that it's like... That reminds me of like the DS LIE. It's such an iterative thing.

Still, I'm saying this list is broken. It doesn't count. It counts. I mean, you see it. Dan Matt says hashtag Greg was right your damn, right? I disagree. I don't even know which one's going to be next.

Like, this is getting confusing. Look at this list. It's, God. Is it the Tiger Gizmodo? Yes. I finally found a good picture. Not like one of the wild. Because this little JPEG I'm looking at is upsetting me.

Oh. That's not a game. It's like roly, holy, man. That's an M.P3 player. That's what Obama was using. Why does it have little ears? Did they go back in time and find this? This sucks.

You want to say it on three? Hold on. Can we look at the face buttons? Gizmondo. Look what the face buttons are. I've read that wrong too. Yeah, no, that looks Mondo. Oh, they're play, rewind, stop, and four.

Why stop on top like that? I hate this. All right, let's say it on three. One, two, three. Oh, F, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that that is, uh... Can we bring the tier list up again? I want to see what I'm putting this under here.

Under game.com above Engage. I think this is last, honestly. Like, those face buttons are atrocious. But here's the thing. Oh, Engage's face buttons. Still only four buttons. The Engage has a fucking million things. Yeah, but at least it was like a phone.

So you get it. You're like, okay, they're trying to deal for that. This is like, what the fuck am I looking at? Oh, they did misspell it on the thing. What game are you playing on the Gizmond? Is that a game device? Apparently. Is the Engage a game device?

It looks like an MP3. What game did the Gizmondo have? That's the worst console. we've seen. All right, I vote last. I vote second to last. Second to last. I think Engage looks better. I would put this, I would put this all the way last.

Okay, yeah. Got the votes. Then, what order are we going in here? The next thing I've got on my list here is Oh shit, NeoGeoX. Huh. I kind of like this. I fuck with this heavy. I kind of like this. I will never be a fan of the

dual shoulder buttons being on the same. Ooh, yeah, I didn't catch that. And then look at the face buttons. Yeah, I don't like those face buttons. I don't like the clear plastic going on there. It just doesn't look. And it looks different.

It looks classic. I like the clear plastic. What? It looks like it has that sort of like aging on it. That one has been exposed to much. Just designed in design. I like this one a lot, man. Is this like one of those classic consoles?

Yeah. Like, you know, like you play. The NeoGuX is a hybrid video game console manufactured by Tomo, licensed by S&K Playmore. Information about the NeoGeX for, reportable. It is the first NeoGeo system to be released since the discontinuation of the brand in 2004

and the third NeoGeo handheld console. It features games that were popular on the original NeoGeo hardware and comes built in with 20 original NeoGeo games. Additional titles were available on game cards. I wish that they just kind of went with the other NeoGeo design and they just kind of plus it up and made it modern. This does not seem like a modern console. Oh my God, I disagree in time. I think it looks simple.

I like that. The logo looks awesome. The color design I think is great. I love the consistency of the transparency of the transparency around the whole thing. Top of C. Top of C. But I'd also also see it. Can I see it? Yeah, like, I don't think they're trying to look for like a modern thing, right? Like, obviously, I think this is trying to be a throwback console to harken back to the Neo Geo stuff. And I look at that. And it almost reminds me looking at Atari,

260, where I'm like, this has a classic look and feel. The other angle in this thumbnail makes it look cooler to me. Because the, the, the main photo that Baird brought up looked less attractive than this angle that it's in right here. The amount of screen real estate and how much much how well this takes up the head held and with lack of bezel. Like I, I could even argue bottom B. What's it called again? The NeoGeoX. Let me look for some other photo angles that could maybe entice me. As of now, I would say like right below the Game Boy. Dan, dude, this thing looks kind of really cool. Dude, I love this thing. I would put this, I would honestly put this

that's sick. I kind of like it actually. Hold on. I would go above the DSI. Whoa. Fuck it, I'm with you, dude. Wow. Look at the... A lot of other

cool photos of it. How high can we get this little guy? Yeah, looking at more angles. I tend to agree. I'm interested in how big the screen is. I feel like that's kind of winning me over. But no, I think the B is the farthest side.

Keep going up. No, no. It's plus plus. Oh, wait, this is really small. Oh, it is really small. Looks. Oh, uh-oh. Uh-oh. Have you seen it? Have you seen him on actually being played? Because I'm looking at it. It looks tiny.

Uh-oh. Which is not both well. And you're looking at this? It looks like it's real tiny. Look at this. Look at that. That's a tiny boy. Oh. Maybe that's just, maybe that's just Andre the Giant playing. Yeah. Big show. Great collie. He loved the OGOX. It's not, yeah. I stand by at Top of C, but I don't have the most it sounds like. I'm down for Top of C. I think I'm sticking with C. All right. Top of C. Top of C. we got the votes. Good luck, everybody.

Barrett, who's next? Let's find out. Bob says, I'm fairly sure Andre was dead by 2012. You don't know that? Died it in 2012? Baked it in 2012. Could have played it in 2012. Maybe he had a prototype or died.

Here we go, everybody. Let's have a real conversation about the PSVita. Sure. Love it. Ladies you gentlemen, let's talk about the PlayStation Vita. This is OLED version. which is I think it's important to call out. I mean, I'll bring them both in here just to talk about it.

If I'm, I know I, I know how it will be shouted down. I think the LED version looks better than the OLED version. I think the, just that bit of weight, you know what I mean? Because this is, I think the original Vita is a chunky boy, right? And then just that little bit of weight and lost for that next version. I know obviously we're talking about screen sizes and, or not screen sizes, I apologize, screen quality and stuff. That is a different conversation and so on and so forth.

I always liked my, as somebody who's not drawn just by the visual pop of an OLED. I like the form factor in the LED, but that's an argument for when we get there, but they're going around. I mean, I've just always loved the difference in materials from where the little thumbsticks are going up to where the buttons are. I, like, if either both of these, if both of these or one of them both ended up in S rank, I would not be mad. I love the look of these little things. This thing is in S rank. It just simply isn't. I can see that it is high.

Can you bring up the tier list? Yeah. Yeah. Show and tell. Also, I guess it's worth pointing out just for the way this list is playing out, unless I'm wrong, I'm looking at it. It looks like only one Vita is on there.

Okay. So I would say, even though this is weird, we should take our, we're rating both Vitas at once. Does that make sense? Yeah. Vita is a brand in this one?

Sure. Okay, cool. And if we're doing that, I say for sure as tier. I'll say, yeah, as tier as well. I go bottom of A on this one. There's just so many bad to sign decisions with this when it comes to the touchpad.

When it comes to the tiny ass buttons, the nubs not feeling great. Like, it's better than the PSP. The oval buttons aren't great. Like, there's so many issues with this thing. It just looks bad fucking ass, man. It just looks so good. You see you get with that in school, you're like, damn, that dude is, that dude's got a rich family. I'm conflicted, right?

Because I, by looks, best here. But now we're bringing in feel, apparently. Now we're bringing in the actual touch It's going to take me down, you know? And I'm like, I just so sexy. It is so sexy. It is so sexy. Hold it again, Andy.

Hold it again, Andy. Like, like the non-Oled version, I agree with Greg that an old old old version looks better. And I think a lot of it is the taking away the silver framing and just having the singular kind of curve where the buttons are all intertwined. And talk about functionality. Put a little keychain on there.

No, you can't. That's the smallest fucking gap ever. It's a point. And the whole reason it's there. Oh, no, I'm saying you put it on your keys, like a string.

It was easier to do on the PSP. I actually don't like the 2000 version or the second version because it looks like more like a toy. I'm high, high A. The font at the bottom, the, just,

I'm the type that like I don't care how small the buttons are. They feel good. They look good. Yeah, I never, I never had a problem with the button size. That's not to take away Tim's criticism or whatever. So that's just never one of mine.

So I just, I just, I agree 100. percent of like what a fucking missed opportunity to put the touchscreen on there what a fucking bone had a reason to put 3G in there like they did so many stupid shit trying to chase mobile at the time that really fuck them but does it look cool it looks amazing that's what we're talking about that's why it's that's that's an S rank right that's rank for me too there you go we have the votes as we have the votes now above or below not god damn above below no no no SP stays king

gotta be below yes sps awesome I'll go below yeah now I assume the next is the Nintendo 3DS you would assume correctly here's a Nintendo 3DS non-XL version that is Leans's pink one I'm gonna go

little bitch toss it into C it's funny because I feel like this is You to prom, I go I thought you're talking about Leans I'm sorry you're talking about Leans Jesus Anyways back to

three yes Leans I love you know that similar situation to the original DS design where it's like, I get what you're going for, but the further iterations are just so much better. Yeah. This does, it's way better

than the original DS though. So wherever that is, I want to put this above it. Original DS, yeah, is in D. No, yes. I don't think this is, that's why I toss it C. Yeah, I would say it's a B. I think it's a B. Yes. I think it's a B. That laser. Over the original game boy.

That laser blue is so fire. That laser blue looks so good. I would go under the original Game Boy, but I'm not mad at this placement of it. I think this is bottom of B. C. Because I also has the little analog stick, but it was like, I don't feel like that really, that was not that bad. That's like sucked. I know, I know, but it was fine.

I just don't think this has the flaws, the original Game Boy had, right? Like, I think the big things that bring Game Boy down to C are like the screen being the weird color. And then also just the brick nature of it. I think 3DS doesn't really have like any major flaw. Like I could see the nub of like the joystick thing or whatever. but that's really the only vlog. So here's the thing though. But it looks cool being...

Pop this thing out. Let me see it again? This is the... Like, I feel like the Game Boy, it's like the green screen, at least the colors go together. Like, that is such a... Like, when we're talking about looks and design, like, they had something going. So much of this was just boring, but like, this raised situation here and, like, the size of the screen and these buttons feeling like absolute dog shit.

I agree with the Game Boy doesn't have any of those problems. And, like, also, like, look how much wasted space there is with the bezel on the top, man. I don't know. What's the color situation on the original 3DS? Some were cool. and then there was a lot of like, oh, what do you think? Because I'm not a big fan of this color.

All right. I mean, I like pink, but like, I don't know, this specific design of it. I mean, it was like that, that laser blue,

the first one that Barrett brought up is the one that I always wanted, and I never got it. Very sad. So let's do the vote here. I vote where it's at. I vote B. But,

yeah, we can figure out that letter. Nintendo 3DS. I would vote where it's at, C. Your B? I think Tim's Wattonet persuaded me.

I think I'm going to stick. to see, actually. I guess we're out see. Andy? I would go... Yeah, I can't... I can't put it above the original Game Boy. So there we go.

Next up, we have the 3DS... No. The 2DS. The Nintendo 2DS. And before I show the C-all... I need to preface this. Here we go.

If this isn't in fucking F-tier, by the end of this conversation, I will quit. So everybody, I have a 2DS. I enjoyed my 2DS for the two games that I played for four hours each on it. You can play it. It looks like it's screaming out, help me, kill me! Kill me! It looks like such a, like, this is a dev kit.

You know what I mean? It's awful to hold. Wait, you ship that version? That's like what they say. Like, oh, no, I was the one to produce. The Tudius is not awful to hold. It is not. No, it's not.

I played a lot of games on it. It was that it was four. Yeah, you know, yeah, you said four. I did a lot of games for four hours each for maybe. You play long games.

You're playing persona. It's a great doorstop. It looks like a great doorstop. I don't think it's, I don't think it's an F. There's an F. This is the easiest. What do you think it is then?

I think it's a C. Let's take away the clamshell design that we all love and turn it into this disaster. What are the different size of this morning? It's fine. It's not only ugly as is, but it's ugly after they've popped the fuck off in the past with so many amazing things

and then they made this and it's like wow you lost the plot. If you told me this was like a Fisher Price thing I would be like oh of course. And that's kind of what it was pushing for. Am I wrong here? Like that's kind of the audience what this was for. It's for babies. This is for children. But babies don't have good design sense. Or people who didn't have the money to get a 3DS. Again, I don't look at these Fisher Price toys and I'm like oh yeah this is better design than my new iPad or whatever.

Right? Like the thing is I don't think this is an F. That's what I'm pushing for. I look at that F tier and I'm like, that's not this. It's not the functionality that I don't care, that I'm like really harping. I don't,

I don't care that they took a clamshell design and made it a single thing. It's just what they chose to go with looks ugly as shit. Like, if it's top of F, I'm fine. It just needs to be an F. I think it's a legitimized handheld, right? Like, I think the reason for it to exist is valid. You know, I'm not hating on the idea itself.

I just hate looking at it. I mean, I hate it. this thing so much, I would go bottom because this is a Nintendo product. This is not a Tiger Gizmodo. This is a fucking Nintendo DS product that was many iterations into this thing. This thing is an atrocity.

And the colors suck too. The quality of it. I'm inside Rogers, Nintendo T's huge of us here. I'm about to get exposed. I'm inside his stats here for how many of his games he played and stuff like that. He's got me. No, no, I'm not, there's one like, okay, you know, you barely played this game.

Yeah, expose me. Pokemon X. Yeah. is Roger Picornis, most played 2DS game. How many hours do you think he's logged into Pokemon X on this unit? 1.20 minutes. I'm going to say six hours. Two hours. No, I haven't seen it.

Six hours. 188 hours in 22 minutes. My brother uses counsel a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what happened. My brother's always logged in. Oh, you should have led with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How many hours has he played an Akrona of Time 3D?

Oh, yeah. 30 minutes. You're playing. Uh, four hours. A hundred hours. 50 hours. 45 minutes. Yeah, I lost my friend Henry Posada's, uh, cartridge of that game.

My apology. Can't find it. Can't find it. All right. Sorry. Where is this going enough? Let me hold it. This is not enough.

This is not enough. You're going against four people who thinks it's enough. I'll let you guys go. I'll let you guys go. Be wrong. Wrong side of history, right? With this thing. I don't hate holding it, I will say.

Yeah, it does not. Really. When you feel the thing, like actually press the buttons on. But then, like, try. But again, you look at it, you don't say this encourages me to play. Trying to get to the bottom button. This encourages me to learn how to skate. I would go below the links gen 2.

Here's the other thing, too. An important thing is DS games are really fucking ugly, and 3DS games are ugly, and you need to get them in the right angle. This thing does not put things where you need to be looking. I lied. I hate holding this thing. Yeah.

Like, once I start using the D-PAD more than the Nub, which, like, a lot of handheld games, I feel like I'm going for D-pad. This does not feel right. It feels so uneven. Like, I got my right hand all the way up here Where are we putting it in F? This is perfect.

I don't know. I say top of F. That's a little sleep button right there. Come on, you don't need to close it. You don't need to close it. You don't need a double shell. I'm going below game.com.

Fuck you. No way. Above the engage. Like, honestly, if they just did the thing where they took away the bottom screen entirely and like shuffled the buttons, I could see it looking,

but it's just a, it's a slab. You know? It's a beautiful slab. You're so mean to slabs. But it had to the, 3D camera. You're not a 3D camera.

Let's look at your photos and they can. Oh shit. Andy? I would put it, um, I'm down to put it at the very bottom. Damn. Hold on.

So we're split as shit then. I go very bottom. Greg goes top. Top. So that, I'm above engage. Then that's where it goes. Yeah.

Yeah. Boom. And my D has to count for something. Put it above the tiger. I think it said C. Or C. Well, yeah, my C definitely has a count.

Yeah. Yeah, right there. Perfect. I'll put it about the tiger. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Wait, hold out. Okay. Sorry, I'm going to look, I'm going to individually look up a picture of the tiger.

No. The tiger. Greg, you got to step in and be like, the rankings are there. The rank. Barrett dropped the tile. He dropped the tile. Although, let me tell you, bless, when we did the console ranking, there was a couple moments where Greg knew Bess or Barrett was on his side.

So he was like, Barrett's the tiebreaker. And Barrett's the tiebreaker and Barrett voted with him. So he was like, there it is. And then when Barrett wasn't on his side, he was like, put it on the poll. We got to have a chance. Democracy works in weird ways, guys. Jerrymandering the podcast.

If you let me have this, you'll never have to vote a handheld ranking again. Gregie mandering. The next one I have, I was kind of hazy on the order of one of these released, but I have at least the 3DS XL. Yeah. Which I have one. Yeah. This is

this guy. This is prime possession. Do not break it. Do not scratch it. It is hacked to hell, but it's great. I love this guy. I have a question for you. This is a little bit weird, but I feel like if it would be possible to pull up the 3DSXL, the 2DSXL, and the new 3DSXL together.

I don't know if I can do them together, but I can at least... Just to be as much because I feel like... That picture has to exist somewhere online. We need to... If we're tearing these, we've got to think about the subtle differences that we're working with here because that's where we're at. Oh, they've made a 2DSXL? Yeah, I have that.

Oh, never mind. Yeah, yeah. I have that still to the day. and that one, the 2DSXL looks so good. I took it back. I didn't realize that existed. Fuck my thing.

Fuck my thing. I mean, I love most of these, honestly. I think I, this is the XL? No, this is a regular one.

No, this is XL. Yeah, 3DSXXL. Because like, I was so enamored, Tim, when that one came out with the blue buttons, I was like,

holy shit, that's so clean looking. And I would put that at the top of whatever it is we're talking about. But on the other version with the three buttons on the bottom, I love that look. So that's my thing.

I do not like the new 3DSXL that has the second analog knob. The raised touchscreen, not a big fan of, and the top screen doesn't look like it takes up enough of the top. The 2DSXL and the OG 3DSXL are fantastic. They're so good. They're fantastic. And I would even say this 2DS XL, while getting rid of the 3D functionality,

the buttons look and feel the color design, I think this might be the top one for me. Because here's the thing, like still using this thing in 2024 like I use this for Zelda in review playing a bunch of like Game Boy or Game Boy games and stuff like it still feels good to use today which is impressive. Yep.

Good about that. Dang. This is like either shout out to Nintendo for randomly announcing this on like a Thursday night like 2018 or some shit. What I'm seeing presently this beautiful little black clamshell with the blue buttons super neon blue

like there's not a whole lot I could say that isn't S for me. Now here's the thing, Andy. If you closed it, I think it might take it down. Let's see it closed. Let me see the new Nintendo 2DSXL from the back. So are we ranking all these together?

We have another back. Right. How do you see it from the back? We have another subtle differences. I'm using my back. My back view. We have another back request from because Andy, the top like it closed it looks like a toy. It doesn't look that great.

Shit. I forgot which one I had, but I had that I had a cool like Mega Man sticker on it. And then there's, there's, there's, my thing. I think it looks a little bit in between a toy. Oh. And like a little like, briefcase. Like a little switch suit. It looks like the case you put your handheld into.

I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. I don't, I think this takes it down. That might take it down to an A for me. But I still love this goddamn thing. So what do we do? Are we rank it all these the same time? Is that what we're doing?

Yeah. And then there's also the, uh, the new 3DS that we need to, to add in there as well. So should we start with the regular 3DS? The one right. have right here, or 3DSXL right here? The 3DSXL will be an A for me. Can we see the tier list? Something about those three buns at the bottom,

I just love the placement of the size of them. They're good. Oh, God, there's so many. What doesn't make it an S? I don't know. Let's have that conversation. Have a feel with this one. I think what doesn't make it an S is,

I mean, maybe I could look up like extra color combinations, but it isn't doing anything inspiring in terms of like having a cool little splash of something here. I get it. But it's like, it's great. To me, this is like the refined version of everything that I loved about the DS, and that's why I would give this specific... Well, I guess, I don't know. I gotta figure out which one I like the most, but I would give one of these an S-tier.

I'm with you where this thing is really, really great. I feel like, I mean, no way I'm putting above the PSP, but it's, uh... What are we talking about right now? The X, 3DS XL. Okay. Yeah. I put this as under the PSP. Hmm.

I'm not mad at it. I would have argued for S-tier, but... Because look how big that top screen is, man. It's a thing of beauty. And also the color ways that this thing comes in, like the cobalt blue, it's very similar to the GBASP. It's nice.

And the red's hot too. The back looks good. Look at that back. Oh. I see LL. Oh, it's in Japan. Oh.

Yeah. I would put the 3DSXL in a rank. Yeah, right where it's at right now. Yeah. Below the PSP above the Game Boy color. Right. A rank for sure. I honestly could be convinced to put in front of the PSP.

Wow. I'm down for that. I mean, it's just a good looking guy. It is. I mean, A rank below PSP. Okay. All right. Then the next one is the new 3DS, which we haven't pulled up a big picture of yet.

Okay, let me go find out. Yeah. There's all the different colors. Gathering pictures, there are so many DSs that I lost. Yeah, for sure. I did drop a picture that's like a bunch of them in one picture. Man, the Super Nintendo Color scheme one

looks so fire And I know Tim doesn't like the multicolored Buttons, I've always been a sucker for that That's why I like the Super Famicom more than the original Super Nintendo It's really cool. It's really cool looking. New 3DS generally.

I don't like this white though. This is the one that you could change out the casing for Like it was a freaking flip phone from the 90s A lot of bezel actually not that I'm not a bezel boy hate my bezels yeah

why were there so many 3DSs because they'd be printing money they're making that money yeah I put this with the original 3DS wow I mean it's pretty much the same thing oh sorry I was thinking original DS

you're right you're right you're right yeah yeah I'm with that I put it above though just because color bigger actually no I wouldn't because I like the blue and he makes a good point that launch 3DS blue is really nice I'm down for that too sure I'm down with it cool

too many 3d s how many fucking 3ds is we have left here we got two left we got the new 3ds xl and the 2dsxl this is the one that added the little nub and it raises the bottom screen again which I don't like but yeah I put this above the 3DS

yeah right there under the game boy above the 3dS because I still I do like the big screen sure I'm out of my depth yeah at this point I was ignoring so many of these I defer to it's him where I was in. They all ran together on me. Yeah, we believe in Tim. And then I believe in Tim. The next up we have.

I really hate that top you showed me on this guy. I hate the top. I hated it. Now here's my thing. I'm torn. No, no, no, no, no, no. No. But I'm torn between the 2DS XL and the 3DSXL. I think overall there's pros. It's not so much cons. There's different pros. Because I'm with Andy. Those three buttons on the bottom of the 3DS XL are very nice. Very good.

See, I don't love the three buttons on the bottom. And I think the 2DSXL like cleans things up. And you know what? It takes out the 3D that wasn't that great anyway. But where the 3DS XL gets points is the uniformed going up when you open up the clamshell and seeing the curves when you open up the 2DS XL like the bottom portion of it, those curves. And then the top screen seeing those curves like I love that the 3DS XL is just one straight line. and seeing that kind of breakup reminds me what I didn't like about the PSP Go

when you open it up and it just looks kind of uneven. Yeah, the 2DS XL almost looks like it does not feel like one unified thing. It almost feels like a mock-up. Like looking at it. It looks like, oh, this is what the future of gaming is going to look like, and it's like, I guess so. You know what?

It was real and the buttons feel great. Yeah, 2DS is in the right spot, I think, right there. I think it's the best. I think it's below the 3DSXL. I'm putting it above 3DSXXX. I think it goes above. Okay. I'll share you go.

And then. Give me a second. Yep. Got a lot of images. Here we go. Here we go. So, there are three remaining things for us to rank today. Wait, really?

The Nintendo Switch, the Nintendo Switch lights, and the Switch OLED. What? Steam deck? Yeah, I got a bunch more. I got the Play-Date. Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, you're right.

You're right, you're right. That isn't a thumbnail. You're right. Can't change your thumbnail now. Too late. It's a possible. The Nintendo Switch. I think at its time when it came out, I would have been higher on it.

But the reality of looking at this thing now and looking at how fucking thick those shitty bezels are. This is B. B. B for bezel. B for bezel. B. But am I wrong that we don't have the OLED on here? No, we have it.

Okay. I don't see it on mine. Oh, there it is right. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you. I agree with the tier list. I want to see where we're rocking with the bees.

I think with the DSIs, I don't disagree with that. Yeah. I would put this below both of the DSIs. I'll put it above both of the DSI. I would put it in the middle of the DSI. Wow. Right in the middle. I put it above them.

A little DSI sandwich. Who says above? Oh, hold, whoa, there's a conversation we had. Because, like, we got to bring in colorways. And those joycons, the different types of colors that combine with the joycons, I feel like add a lot. You're not wrong. That I feel like could bump in the yellow.

But I also think that the DSI, that all solid white, like it works so well that you don't even need other options. Because like right now where my mind's got, where my mind is at with the switch models are switch A, switch light B, switch OLEDs S. Whoa. I feel like that's appropriate. If we're going to split up the switches.

I'm just throw that out there. I'm okay with this. I like where this is at. I'm okay with this. A little DSI sandwich. So if you're an audio listening, that means it's going to be between DSI XL and DSI.

Let's do it. There we go. Okay. Next up. The switch light. I like this guy. I fucking loved this. This is an A. I wish I cared more about the switch

that I would have got it. You know what I mean? Like it came out, I don't need another switch. I don't need a second switch. But I would have, like, if somebody who only plays their switch handheld,

like it would have been, this is one of those if they would have, like, give me that option earlier or whatever. I would have got on board with that. Five colorways. They're all delightful to look at.

They're delightful, but I don't think any of your great. No, I'm with you. I think it's like a great still, though. Like, I just like the form factor. I think it looks balanced. It looks like Nintendo knew what they were doing here and didn't have a whole lot of indecision of what they were trying to pull off.

And this feels like a handheld of my youth, right? Like, it feels like this is a kid would pick this up and play it, and that's what this is made for. And people are like, this looks cheap. I get that. That's kind of the vibe. But it doesn't feel cheap. It looks at like a handle of your youth,

but it plays so. much more solid and like the D-pad is a major step up from the joy pads like yeah that's joy cons like this I love mine um I do think that like while the bezel looks better here because it's the color instead of just being black I still think that there's like a better use of the real estate for the screen and also it not being OLED is a major problem but I think if they went with I think if they went with black buttons it'd be like close to an S for me but I would put this in an A I'll put this above the OG switch yeah yeah with the joy cons for sure I I mean, we're going to talk about another switch in the second.

Yeah, but I don't know, man. It doesn't sit right with me. But here's the thing is, like, you can make the JoyCon argument for the OLED, which we're about to do in a little bit here. But, like, the thing that brings the OG switch down is the bezel, man. This also has a bezel. I get that it's the same color. It's like a uniform.

I don't think the OLED being so much of a step forward means that the switch, the OG automatically goes below the light. But I would... Yeah. Hmm? I throw it up behind the PSA. I think that Yeah

I'd put it behind the 3DS I'd go below the Game Boy pocket I'm with Greg I would put a rep What you said behind the PSP That's where I'm at Alright So then we don't have the votes though right

So what was yours? Where are you at? I mean I guess if we've recommended to A That I'm putting it Below color So then Yeah I'd be where it lands Yeah

Okay Boom A rating listeners A rank Behind the Game Boy color Above the Game Boy Pocket the Nintendo Switchlight. Alright, now for a curveball. Oh, the Am Arcade?

What the fuck? I don't know the fuck this is. From Blaze Entertainment. But that's great. Just look at it. What are those buttons? What are the buttons even say? They say, is that a you?

Is that a you? Is that a U? Is that a U? Is that a P? I love like that red kind of line. I'd go through. I'd go see. I'd go see also.

Yeah. Not all I'd say that. I don't even know. I don't even know if it's real. I don't know if Barrett's like punkin-us. picture actually. I don't know about that. That's a D. That might be a D if I look at another picture. Hold on. No, come on.

Ow. No. Oh. Yeah, that's under the Game Boy Micro. Where was that? I think on D and D. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. The orange and white though? You can't put this below the SNK pocket.

Look at the SNK pocket. Yeah, but like the SNK the SNK pocket. The S&K pocket analog stick. I'm like, oh, I want to touch that. The freaking Blaze, whatever the hell. It's like, that thing is like. Blaze Entertainment shows some respect. Mush garbage. Blaze.

We're just going off the looks. Yeah, we're going off the looks. It looks like shit. And I look at this. It looks like a C rank, yeah. So like, bottom of C. Bottom of C. Above pocket. Above PSP Go. The more I'm like, where are we doing here? You're psycho. What are we doing? All right. I'll put it here.

Love you, thank you. I love the game of watch, though. Barrett's drop the towel. It's over. He did. It's over. All right. Well, if you love the game and watch, you have another opportunity with the game and watch,

2020. Oh, I forgot about this. See, this is what I'm talking about here. This cute little sunbitch right here. Yeah, it's great. Cute little guy. I like this one. I like it.

Design's great. I do think that the B&A being horizontally perfect is not ideal. And the NES controllers are that way, but I do think that takes away just a little bit. But just looks wise, like, yeah,

this thing, the colors are great, and it's very, very unique. There's nothing inoffensive. I'm feeling low B. Yeah, bottom B. Yeah. Gotta B. Yeah.

Good. I'd go below NeoGeo X. Actually, I would too, Andy. I'm with you. Whoa. I'd go below No more Game Boy, actually. Really? I'd go below New 3DS.

The more and more I look down. The more than I look down. I go out to New GeoX. I mean, I'm not mad anywhere in the best. Look at the Bess on this other. Your C.T. I'm not mad about anywhere you put it. Bad-ass bezels. See, I like.

Gammon. I put it, I would put Gayboy in front of it, so. I could buy that. I could buy that. Okay, Game Boy, Game and Watch 2020, new 3DSX-O. There we go. Okay.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's fucking go. There we go. Oh, let's sway. There you go. S-tier. S-tier.

It's S-tier, man. And even just with the default color. Yep. Yep. God. When you're that confident that you can just put out default color and it have to be white after you had like, hey, let's be fucking mismatch fun. It's like, dude, you know what the fuck you were doing.

This thing is S tier. I'm going above Vita easily. Above Vita, baby. How do we feel about compared to SB? No. S.B is like the pinnacle handheld console. And I love the OLED, but it just, I can never beat the SP. It's above SP for me.

Wow. I'd go below Vita. At S still. I honestly would put it above SP. Yeah. It's rough. It's sexy, dude. I think the SP is sexy too.

It is. This is hard for me, but like, the reality is, every time I turn my, or hold my switch or turn it out, I love how this thing looks. But it's at number one. Also, let's have a real conversation with your whole trying to find different joycons and all that stuff. It's like the actual ergonomic feel of the switch.

Yeah, that's, but I don't think that the GBA SP is any better than that. Yeah, sure. My problem isn't so much of the ergonomic feel as much as this is the fucking shitty-ass, little tiny-ass buttons. I hate tiny buttons. And joycons all have tons. I mean, you had an issue with the Vita and their tiny buttons. I do.

But the Vita... I mean, all these things have tiny buttons. Yeah. Well, the PSP doesn't. Everybody. All right. Yeah. Number one.

Number one. I would have never expected that going into... That that would be number one. I like it, though. Yeah. Yeah. It's no way... When you remove the bezel, things change.

I mean, shout out to the playday. Here's where things get fucking crazy. Shout out to the playday. I'm going to say something that might be wild here. Oh, shit. I think this is S-2. Whoa. No backlight.

The backlight does fucking up. The backlight was like one of my key criticism. Criticisms when, God, I can't talk anymore. I'm hungry. This is A to me.

Incredible design. I'm going to. If we're just talking looks and we're just talking to the design, like the color choice, like the, how angular it all is, the like shape of the screen and like this.

The metal crank? Like, yeah, I hate the crank. I'm gonna be. I hate the crank too. But like, you look at this and you get what it's trying to do.

I still, I still use this as the clock on my desk at home. Because it has such a great design. You want it in your room. S fucking tier. I think it's bottom of S. Actually, no, fuck that. It's below the PSP.

I will not put it above the PSP. I would say it's the top of it. Gosh. It's below 2DSXL. But A rank. Actually, A, you know right. You're right. Actually, even...

It's below Game Boy Pocket. You know what? I got it. S. Bottom of S. Yeah, I said bottom of S too, so it's wherever the... That's personality.

For wherever else. So for people who wanted an A rank, where you want it? I want at the top of it. The screen isn't centered. Like, that should be enough to be bothered by. But it's so small. To take it down from the S. You're not noticing that.

Yeah, I was saying I didn't notice that until Andy said it. Yeah. But I think that works with the ergonomics of you playing on the side. Like, it balances it out a bit. But, I mean, I wouldn't even argue with that high, though. I'd put the play date above the Game Boy color underneath the 3DS XL. I think with the two S's and then Andy wanted it lower

I think it lands here A DS sandwich A D S sandwich I like that I'm okay with this Boom All right we're almost there y'all We got two more What?

What is left? A steam deck Ah right I'll get the fuck out of it I love the idea of this Yeah I think it's that's like oh this is what the future of handholds should be But it's like no you see the switch you see this like no fuck that

Here's the problem The idea of, hey, it's just a console controller with a clamshell type screen. Like, this should be ideal, but not this console controller, not that bezel. This to me is aft tier. This looks like it came out 15 years ago. Yeah. This is bottom of D tier because it doesn't revolt me. It just is like, oh, you're wrong place, wrong time.

It looks so over designed. Like, I feel like this is bad design. I think that it is worse than D. Yeah. I think with how clean their GPUs look, this looked like somebody else. But this was also like a long time ago. This is not like, you know what I mean? Like this is what was this?

I don't know when this was this. I mean, this was like 2012, right? Or 2015? It's still a while. No, 15. Jesus, really? Oh, wait, I'm thinking maybe. I mean, aren't these in order of release?

No, the PC stuff is. Gotcha. It just looks like it was designed out of time. Like it's, they thought of the design in the late 90s. 2013. Um, top of the time, I think this is D. Again, it looks like a game machine. It looks like something.

I look at the rest of, I'm with you, D sounds good. And I look at the rest of D and I'd rather play this than these. I'm tossing it. I'd put this below the links gen 2 and F. I say top of D as well. I'm with Greg. Top F. I'm on top of the word.

So middle D. What? No, I'm saying middle of D because I'm. We've got two people who are in F. Blessing is top F, body. bottom D and then 2D. Yeah. I feel like that's more here.

Yeah. Yeah. Or either there. No way. No way. There's no way. Let's go off. Why the fuck are people riding for the links so hard?

It's so bizarre. Bring a bigger picture of the links again. No, I'm not looking at no likes. I can't know if it's ever again. All right. They've been paid off by big links. Bye no one, y'all.

There it is. The Steam deck. I like this guy, dude. How are we going to talk about this, though? Are we doing the OLED or are we doing the... Both. I mean, I love my I love my translucent with the red accents.

I think there are too, but there's only one thing on the chart. Yeah, they didn't make it. This is a little dated so we don't have the OLED. Well, show me the OLED picture then. The OLEDs, you got less bezels. Yeah, I feel like, we know this. Definitely is a game changer. Yeah, this is probably going to be like, I mean, this is high for me, but

nothing that was going to kind of, you know, the internet's not going to be talking about. It's like they were about my bloodborne PC mod, Tim, in that one article. I would put this, like, B. I would put this, like, B. I think it's a B. I have issues with this. I don't like the D-pad.

I do think it is too heavy, even with the OLED version. It is not a perfect console, but I like most of it. I love the back paddles. I love the touchpad. It has so much functionality, and we're talking about that.

Yeah, I think it's B. I want to ride for it. I want to say A, but I can't ignore when they first revealed this how we're all like, those buttons are falling off of that thing. Right?

And I think there's been a level of, you know, just getting used to it, right? I look at the Steam Deck, I don't notice it anymore after actually using it for years now. But yeah, like, the button placement does kind of look weird when you're looking at it for the first time. The thing that I still do like about it is that, you know, it reminds me of

watching a commercial about like, you know, American engineering, talking about like, you know, Ford Auto. I'm looking at this and I'm like, this is a machine. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, this is a fucking pickup truck of a console. It is a steam machine, right? And like, I like, I like it. I feel it. I pick it up and I'm like, this is powerful right here. I'm playing with power. I still. I'm

same B. I still hate where the face buttons are and I feel like they had to design the back paddles to make up for where they had to put the face buttons. Also with the the like I get the touch pads. They always like they always get in the way. I always accidentally press them. Yep. I like the touchpads. I use a lot. I'd go I'd go. I'd go be with this one. I love this thing and I think that design wise it gets some things are incredibly right and then I think it gets something just really really really, really. really wrong. I feel like it's very not offensive, though. So I would go higher than C for sure.

Yeah. That's where I'm at. Bottom of B. It has so much functionality that I'm like, oh, wow. The fact that you fit this all into one console is a miracle, but there's issues with it. The screen real estate is just amazing. This goes above the switch.

I don't, I can't see a world. Dude, absolutely not. No shot. No, too. 100%. Yeah. I was going to say that this is proof that switch to be higher than me. If you moved the face buttons and the D-pad

and replaced the touch pads with that and then made the whole thing smaller, maybe. But I think there's too much space there visually, and it serves a function, but it doesn't look awesome. I would leave this where it's at. I would say top of C, but I'll concede end of B. There we go. End of B. For you on this podcast.

I know that it's not audio, but I just want to say it, Logitech, GCloud. A. That's a solid A right there. And we don't have to vote. Let the world know. Let the world know. Logitechik G Cloud is an A. Do we want to do one more read-through before we head out here? Of course. At S-tier, we have the Switch OLED, Game Boy Advance SP, and the PlayStation Vita.

Top of A rank, we have Sony PSP, followed by the Nintendo 2DSXL, the Playdate, the 3DSXL, the Game Boy Color, the Switch light, the Game Boy Pocket, and the DS-Light. The B tier is DSI XL, Switch, DSI and Steam Deck, C tier, NeoGeoX, the original Game & Watch 2020, New 3DSXL, 3DS, New 3DS, Game Boy Advance, NeoGeo Pocket Color, PSB Go, Evercade handheld, NeoGeo Pocket, and the Game Watch 1980. D tier, the Game Boy Micro, the Sega Game Gear, the Nintendo DS Original, the Atari Links, and the Nvidia Shield portable. F tier, we have the Artari Links Generation 2, the Sega Nomad, the Nintendo 2DS, Tiger Game.com, Nokia NGage, and the Tiger Gizmodo. Gizmodo at the very final spot there.

But before we leave, everybody, we do have a very important thing to settle. Blessing at Aeo You, Jr., what is the greatest looking console of all time? Have a Google Doc open. It's called, I almost felt. on my seat just now. It's called good looking consoles, right? It's famished. I have, I'm so hungry. I have here listed four consoles. The Atari 2600,

the Nintendo Wii, the PS1, and the PS2 slim. It comes down to those four for me. I think the best looking game console, Nintendo Wii. That's what I'm going with. Yeah. Wow. Sleak. It's still, you look at it today. It could have been designed yesterday, right? It's still modern looking. The blue light. The blue light. Oh my God. The white design. I love it. GameCube. courts. They're hidden, but they can be Oh, yeah. The compartments are like,

even the compartments look cool. Exactly, man. Yeah, it's the Nintendo Wii for another great one. Got the stuff. Was that the consensus last time? We loved the Wii. Okay.

It was an S tier, but I don't think it was the highest. It was the highest. It was almost a sleeper hit. I didn't expect it. It was great. Well, everybody, let us know in the comments below what you think

the greatest looking handheld is, what you think the ugliest handheld is, and just what you think about the Atari links. Any version of it. Just links me up in the chat, everybody. But thank you for hanging out with us after this we will be doing a gameplay stream that I think is going to be

supposed to be fall out London yeah you've gone really long right here so we'll see so let's see let's see let's have a quick conversation about what happens well we might be live we might not so thank you for hanging out with us we appreciate you very very much until next time I love you all goodbye