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Episode Date: January 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Yo, what's up? Welcome to the kind of funny gamescast for Thursday, January 9th, 2025. I'm one of your host's blessing, Adioia Jr. joining me is the Master of Hype, Snowbike Mike. Bless. What up, Big Dog. Good to see you again. Welcome back. Thanks for having me on another games cast with you. I always love doing these. Of course. I mean, thanks for having me on another games cast with you, Mike. You act like I'm in charge of this shit. You act like I'm the one that makes the games cast schedule. We're together now. We're going to have some fun. Bless, we're back at it again. It's Thursday. Halfway through the first week of 20, 25.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Crazy to think about that. Feeling good. Yeah? Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good. You can get a good start to the year? Yeah. My, you know, my ass is in grind mode, so I'm trying my best not to be horizontal ever. You know, usually I had come home.
Starting point is 00:00:51 You know, you lay down for a minute. You started scrolling TikTok, and the moment I get horizontal, it's over. Because yesterday, like, I ate dinner, and I knew I wanted to finish mouth washing. Because, like, yesterday was one of my free evenings where legitimately, like, I could have made plans, but I was like, you know what, man? It's rare that I. Just leaving an evening for you. I'm either going to the gym.
Starting point is 00:01:09 I'm either playing a sport. I'm hanging out with a friend. He's a busy man. A busy man. And yesterday was a free evening. And I told myself this year I wanted to play more indie games. I wanted to roll more credits. Yeah, I heard you say that.
Starting point is 00:01:18 You want to be the tastemaker. I like that. Yeah, I want to be like Roger McCorn. I want to be the tastemaker. And so I went back and I finished mouthwashing. Nice. Very evocative game. Very, like, a lot happening.
Starting point is 00:01:30 An artistic touch. Do you recommend that to our audience? Because, of course, I played it as well. You and I have both now completed it in the same. week. Where do you fall on that? You use some special words there, which I like. Here's the thing. I look at it, I finish that game
Starting point is 00:01:45 and I acknowledge that I think they did a lot of stuff where I'm like, oh, that's art right there. Like y'all made something. I'll put your foot in this. I don't know if I loved it. Like, I finished that game and I was kind of like, I don't like the feelings I felt, which oftentimes art does and I don't think that's inherently bad. I'm
Starting point is 00:02:01 okay with art not making me feel good. But I think my issues with it is I am not the biggest fan of when shit gets trippy and stays trippy for too long, where it's like, all right, you guys are telling a story, but now it feels like you're just throwing like visuals and like sensations at me that, I don't want to say the lacks substance because I understand where it's hard to talk about a game without getting a story.
Starting point is 00:02:27 But I understand what you're saying and like the story that you're telling me and why you're doing these things. But when I'm spending what feels like most of the game, just like going in circles, And the world's, you know, changing around me and shit's weird, man. Like, you start to lose me a bit. That plus, like, I don't know. There's something thematically. I didn't tweet, but I blew sky to this of like, man, could have gone to therapy.
Starting point is 00:02:52 But instead, I made a video game. It's what it feels like. You got to get that emotion out is right. But what I recommend it, I think I still would recommend it. I think if you're something. Two and a half hours. Yeah. You could finish it in one sitting.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You could break it up into two nights. It's got something there. If you want to feel something, If you want to experience something, definitely I would say check it out. You might come out of it, loving it. Yeah, I left it feeling kind of grimy, kind of gross. Kind of gross. Not happy.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You know what I mean? Especially because there were some things that are answered but kind of like not answered super clearly so you can lead to your own. And it's like, oh, I don't like where that kind of went right there. And I don't know where we were on that one, you know? So, yeah, I feel that. The game feels like somebody needs to get something out of their system. Like whoever made that game, whoever wrote it and developed it, they're like, I got some shit that I'm working through.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And like, I could go to therapy, but fuck therapy. I'm making a video game. I love that. But you know what? I would recommend it, though. Okay. If you're somebody who's willing to, like, experience some dark shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It is like, it's a horror game. It is a game that I think has a lot to say. And part of what it has to say I think is, like, good, right? Like, it is, I don't, I won't go into what it is thematically, but it's touching on things where it's like, oh, this is like some deep shit. And like, you're working through it. So if you want to play, like, I'll say a kind of a therapy game. game somebody's working through some shit in a video game yeah mouth washing out so give it
Starting point is 00:04:10 give it a look okay good and then uh of course on top of that the start of 2025 how you feeling uh i'm feeling good yeah i mean there's not much to report on it's the ninth but yeah not bad chilling you know we got game of the year next week it'd be exciting very exciting stuff very exciting stuff i have some i have some stuff with us to talk about for the tots of course wow you know for me to kick off the new year i had to maybe write a wrong or i had to at least do some investigative work. Because last time we did a shit list, we really talked a lot of shit on the Half-Life Crowbar. You talked a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And I had a jump in. And you know what? Bless? You know what, Bless? I give a little more respect to it, but it's not a top eight weapon. Wow. So it's still shit on the list. Well, not a top eight weapon.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I saw you're playing Half-Life last night. I'm playing Half-Life right now. Has this been an ongoing thing? Have you been playing Half-Life for a while? No, this is part three of my play-through. So just really this week to start off to. new year looking for things to play i'm kind of like gregg right now and i'm sure all of you out there it's like what's the new thing to play oh wait there's nothing new so what should i be playing right now
Starting point is 00:05:15 what's going to grab me and i've always wanted to play half-life i know you and andy have talked about doing it on stream but we've been waiting for half-life two remix mix mix mix with the super invidious stuff so it's like well i should probably play half-life one so i can get ahead of it know a little bit i respect that you're getting ready for half-life three this year mike yeah and so i'm on i mean well i still got to play half-life one what's the half-life black Mesa, I believe? Yeah. See, that's what I want to play. Yo, bless, you should play this game. I know I should. This game rocks, bless. That game? You know, when we talk about Tots here, will it be on the list? Let's get into a remember. This is Kind of Funny Gamescast. Each and every
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Starting point is 00:06:54 Maybe more. We just can't get enough. Just can't get enough. Can't get enough. New season starts technically tonight, but really we'll just call it tomorrow for those listening out there. Four new characters, three new maps. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Bless this team, this team is getting after Overwatch. They said, we're coming for the throne. They're for real coming for the throne. Yeah. And like, to the point where I'm not checked to the concurrence, I need to see people like, what are, what is the vibe right now? Like, are we giving the crown to Marvel rivals right now already? I think.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Are they higher right now? I think they might have taken the crown. Have they taken the crown yet? I think it's that kind of vibe right now. We'll keep an eye on Marvel rivals. It's that kind of vibe. If you're a kind of funny member, you get it today's Greg way, where Greg has a three way.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Thank you to our Patreon producers. Delays whining. Hey, that's what it says. I didn't write this. Greg wrote this. Oh, Barry, these are the steam charts. So Marvel rivals, what? And the 24 hour peak has had 445,000 players.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Right now you have 309,000. That's solid. The thing that sucks is that, like, you can't, I don't think you can get accurate numbers for Overwatch really, right? Because like the battle, most people are playing on BattleNet. And also, like, we're not accounting for a console as well.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So that's a lot, you know what I mean? But when we go to the 2025, Snowbike Mike and Blessing at E. Joey Jr. Keep an eye on. It's called to Blackop Six sales numbers. It's Marvel rivals. Where is the engagement? Three months and six months from now? And Xbox third party titles, game
Starting point is 00:08:13 pass. Those are our big three on our list right now. All right. Fair enough. Also, for me and Greg, because I want to keep Greg honest about this. I don't think people remember this pizza bed, but I do. It was only like a month ago. Where Greg said that every Xbox game is going to have a earlier version, like a play
Starting point is 00:08:29 earlier, like pay more money to play earlier, essentially. Oh, okay. Special edition type vibe, right? Greg was saying that like every first party Xbox game is going to have that. I'm saying no this year. Every single one? That's what he thinks.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. I don't know if those was like in the moment thing because sometimes you say things in the moment where later on you're like, nah, I didn't mean that. But he did say it. When things get hot and heavy. Keep it modest, Jack. You say some wild things. Sometimes you draft Mario as a counter pick.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You know what I mean? It's so dumb of you. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Delaney Twining and Carl Jacobs. Today are brought to you by Rocket Money, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show. Tots, dots, dots, dots, dots, dots, dots, Mike, the number one thing I've seen in my mentions, let me know.
Starting point is 00:09:17 This week has been Rolling Stone. They put up a list of the top 50 greatest video games of all time. Top 50. Top 50 greatest video games of all time. And everybody's in my mentions is like, bless, bless, shit list you and Mike you got to react
Starting point is 00:09:35 because I don't know if you've realized this me and you become the React guys we love reacting to some shit lists we become like the new shitless folks and we gotta get
Starting point is 00:09:42 Tim like rest and peace Tim Geddy I mean Tim should be here that's the thing is working he's so busy though he's working and we got to I feel like we haven't
Starting point is 00:09:50 tested out yet the trio of me you and Tim I think he would balance us out because you and I we come from the same error we get the same vibes
Starting point is 00:09:58 I think Tim's kind of that middle ground of like he might balance us out but then we can beat up on it. Me and you were from the same, we're from the same era. Tim Gettys,
Starting point is 00:10:07 I'm pretty sure it's between both of us and age. Yeah, he is. Tim's technically the exact same age. But there's a vibe. There's a vibe. Tim, why do you look at him like he's 40 years old? Tim is like three years older than me.
Starting point is 00:10:19 This is the reason, because he's like an actual adult. Yeah, Tim's an adult. My child, man, child. That's hilarious. We're like, oh, Tim, different generation. That man, we don't talk about if it's enough. Tim?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yes. Practically my age. Tim is only a few years older than you. It's true. But it feels like we're decades apart for some reason. It feels like he's like Nick's age, but he's not. It really does. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:42 It's like you don't see behind the scenes. It's really because he's just, he's been around for a while, you know? Because he's businessman. He's so business man. Come play on the stream. Come talk about Kevin wiping his ass with us. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:54 He doesn't want to talk about Kevin wiping his ass for the reason. Exactly. Or not wiping his ass. Tune into the content to find out. Oh, Barry. You missed a stream yesterday. day. Kevin, we gotta call it out. A bit you a line stepper. A bitual line stepper. This man, Kevin,
Starting point is 00:11:10 takes it there and then takes it one step over. He'll take whatever you say, elevate it to a point where it's like, oh man, I try to stop before we get there, but Kevin will take it there. That's why we employ them. That's why you put a microphone in front of them so we can say these things. Let him cook up. Let him cook. All right, we're doing a shit list. If you don't know, shit lists, I go online. I find a top 10 list. I bring it back. to the crew and react for your enjoyment. This time, it is a top 50 list,
Starting point is 00:11:37 the top 50 greatest video games of all time from Rolling Stone. Of course, the streets have been enjoying us reacting to the top 100 PlayStation list from IGAN. We did the every game of the year ranked list for a shit list on the last week of content last year. So we're back at it, like a bad habit.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Mike, before we get into this list, when I say top 50 greatest video games of all time, what comes to mind? Maybe you got to go deep into it, right? I think of a Grand Theft Auto, but which one or how many? I think of a Final Fantasy's got to be up on this. I think of, you know, great games like a Half-Life or a portal got to be on this list. I think a Halo needs to be here.
Starting point is 00:12:17 A Gears of War needs to be here. A Red Dead probably has to be here. You know, you start throwing things out there. And you get excited, right, because then you've got to go into Nintendo's bag. How many tricks do they got in the bag? A lot of them, you know? It's going to be a good time. So you say GTA.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You give me a lot of franchises, but not necessarily entries. So, like, how many GTAs? Three? I think one. I think one. I think two. I'm going to say two. I think you get two GTAs.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I'm going to, I'm also going to say two. You get two. Because I think, I think you get a PlayStation 2 GTA. You get a three or a Stan Andreas. Or five. Like, I also think any of those three, yeah. And you get one of those three.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And then you also get five. Yeah. You said just Final Fantasy. I'm going to say seven. Seven is what my guess is. I think seven is the popular opinion. It's either seven or if they're nerdy about it, I get maybe six,
Starting point is 00:13:08 because I think six is also very beloved. Okay, yeah, yeah. Also, I should note that I believe this is Rolling Stone staff. When you check the page, it just says by Rolling Stone. Okay. Yeah, just says by Rolling Stone. Keep going, what else? So you said Half-Life.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You think Half-Life 2? I think Half-Life 2 will be on this. You said Portal. Are you thinking Portal 1 or 2? Portal 2. You said Halo, which Halo? Halo 3 will be on this No you said Gears of War
Starting point is 00:13:34 I don't know if I view Gears of War is a top of Gets I think Gears 1 will be on this Wow Gears 1 on this I respect it You said Red Dead 2 Red Dead 2 Yeah I think it'll be Red Dead 1 Red Dead 1
Starting point is 00:13:47 I can see you going either way Then we got the audience of course Coming in here you have games like a Mass Effect Mass Effect 2 yeah You have a game like Zelda Yeah, I was going to say, let me come in with some of mine, right? Cook up. Because if I just think off the top of my head, Zelda, Breath of the Wild.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. And don't correct me because of how I say breath. I'm sorry, guys. Zelda Breath of the Wilde, I'm going to throw in there Eldon Ring. Also, should know, this is a new list. This list came out in the last couple weeks. Last couple weeks. Even invoking Eldon Ring brings up questions of, like, other souls.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Dark Souls. It's from softwares. They have everybody in a show cold right now. They got them in a chokehold. See, I would say Bloodborn. I just Thinking about the context of Rolling Stone, right? Like, are they getting super nerdy with it?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Are they getting super in the ways? And I'm not saying Bloodborn is like a super niche thing, right? But like I do wonder, do they think past from Soft when they already put down Eldon Ring, you know? I feel you. Yeah. I feel you. I feel you.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I'm all good on that. What else you got? Well, Mario. You know what I mean? Mario brothers either super, Mario is my new thing in 2025. I like that. I like this. I love this.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I'm okay with this. I'm okay with it. Either a Super Mario World or Mary Brothers 3 and or Mario 64. Galaxy. I think galaxy had a chair cold on a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Like 64. Well, that's the tough thing is that when you talk about the Mario Bros. Pretty much any mainline entry outside of Sunshine is on the table. Every Mario entry is on the
Starting point is 00:15:19 Mario is on the table. You know what I mean? You got so many of them too. I'm typing down Mario. Tell me down some more. Um, and this is what I think where things start to get really more. Witcher 3. Okay. Yeah. Some people have been saying
Starting point is 00:15:30 Witcher 2. Which are 3, I think, is high up on my possible list here. That's the fun stop. It's like... Bldersgate 3. BG 3. I like that. How about Skyrim? They make the last. That's good. Skyrim was once on a refrigerator. That's good. That's kind of a refrigerator.
Starting point is 00:15:49 You're not wrong. Yeah, that's true. That is true. You know what I mean? Where else do you get in here? Because there's a lot. I mean what? Okay, so we've visited Nintendo. Yeah, God of War. Yeah, God of War. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I was going to say, I don't think we have a lot of PlayStation here. How about Crash? No, maybe, but I hope not. No. Fuck Crash. Tetris people are saying? Oh, yeah, Tetris. Oh, yeah, we got into Pac-Man.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Pac-Man. Dig-Dug. No. I love Dig-Dug, though. Fuck yeah, Mike. Street Fighter. Is that a real one? Pooze and World Exotica?
Starting point is 00:16:24 I don't think we're supposed to talk about that on the show. Are we getting an arcade game? I don't watch this kind of videos like Cruising World Exotica? No. He's playing Cruising World on a different website. Fuck, I had another game. Now you just erase it from my brain. We said Tetris, we said Pac-Man.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You said a fighting game, I think. Oh, Street Fighter 2. Super Street Fighter too. I like that. I like that. Mortal Kombat? Because now you start to get in like, Rolling Stones, probably going to put one fighter on this list, you would hope. Which one is that?
Starting point is 00:16:52 I think you'll Street Fighter over Mortal Kombat. Yeah. Now I'm thinking classic, right? Pokemon. You got to have a Pokemon on here. Pokemon. Oh, you've got to have a Pokemon. I also like this.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I want to shout out. I also like this because we're doing our top 100 games for kind of funny sometime this year. That was one of the promises at the beginning of the year. So this almost feels like a precursor to that. Give you a highlight, Cruising Exotic goods on my list. Oh, it better not be. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:17:18 World of Warcraft, Fortnite. Yeah, people in chat are saying Fortnite. Fortnite's definitely going to be on that. I think is another solid one as well. Mike, it was very fun. When we went to the computer history museum, they had a whole section around World of Warcraft, and they had the server of the original World of Warcraft server,
Starting point is 00:17:35 like physically there. It was like, oh, if Mike was here, he would have been flipping out. Breaking. Now, thinking through what's on my list. Yeah, tell me. Meliger saw them. Three.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Three. Yes. Three is my pick. They could probably pick either one or, I guess one or three, I feel like would be the right pick, but I'm going to say three. I like that. I could see some.
Starting point is 00:17:54 people choosing too. Yeah, that's the thing is, depending on who's who's on here, right? It could be too. But we're just saying some metal gear. We got to see metal gear on here. Did we say the last of us yet? We haven't talked about Sony. There's a lot of Sony. From uncharted to the last of us. I don't. God of war. Inquisey and unchartered. See, this thing is when I think of recent first party Sony, I'm going Last of Us God of War and I don't know how much deeper I'm going for a top 50, right? I don't think I'm going Horizon for a top 50. I'm not going Ghost of Sushima yet for Top 50. Maybe with you'll Rate around this? No. We're going way back
Starting point is 00:18:28 right? Because like that's a tough part. We talk about top 50 all time. Right? There's recent then you gotta go way back in the bag. Like you could get lost in this. If we're going back like this thing is if we're treating every era like oh we got to get PS1 games in there we got to Yeah. That's how I think we get metal your solid one.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Okay. And Final Fans is 7 Like the original Final Fans of Seven. Okay. Okay. Um You get a golden eye? Like are we going back to 64? You do get a golden eye. You know what I mean? It shouldn't be on there, but I respect it. And we said, I think we said Zelda Breath of Wild
Starting point is 00:18:59 earlier on and just moved on. But like, Aquinas. Yeah, yeah. And linked to the past. See, I'm of the mind of maybe it's like GTA where they only put two of them on here. If you choose two Zelda's, which two are you going with? Just guessing, I think it would be Breath of the Wild and Ocarina.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I like that. See, pardon me. I don't agree with it, but that's just what, again, if I'm in the room at Rolling Stone, which I don't know what Rolling Stone is capable of, That's the big X factor in all this. Are they on the gamer side of these lists? Yeah, like, where are they going?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Who's in that room at Rolling Stone putting together this list? But if I'm in a room... A lot of cool people. Mover and shakers. Because here's the thing, right? You're a part of Rolling Stone. You're a mover and shaker. You're a trend setter.
Starting point is 00:19:42 The problem slash fascinating thing with lists like this is that I think you get into group think scenarios, right? Where you're playing to the room and it's hard to like... Yeah, trying to get them hyped up after every single pick. And like, it's more so like, I think you get into a, conversations where arbitrary things become like, oh, we got to do this, right? Because, like, if I think if one person's making this list, I can see A Breath of the Wild an Akrita because it's a group of people, I think the conversation will steer towards, we got
Starting point is 00:20:07 to get a 3D and a 2D. Oh. I think that they might go breath or tears, because tears could be on here. Maybe they're saying you could get one. I don't see, like, I feel like there's a sentiment around tears that, like, you didn't fully have, but you kind of had where it's like, well, I already had Breath of the Wild, and that was such a special experience. When people are thinking about top 50,
Starting point is 00:20:28 I don't see them thinking about tears in the same way as they do Breath of Wild, but they should because Tears is a better game. I think it's like, I think you get one of those and you get linked to the past. We got a lot of good ones from the chat that I want to call out. We have Castlevania's in here. We have a Doom, a Wolfenstein.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Someone wrote Guitar Hero, right? Like, I do think guitar hero is on this list. I think it should be on this list. I don't, I would, especially with Rolling Stone, No, you know, they come from music. I would be more likely, I would expect more likely to see a rock band on here.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I like that, I like that. I'm going to say Shadow Colossus. Oh, that one's deep, bless. I don't know about that one. I like that. You need some gamers in there. Shadow Colossus, you say it's deep, but I feel like when you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:21:15 when people start to get into the conversation of video games or art, I feel like Shadow Colosses is like the mainstream version of that. Like, it's like the number of, one thing you go to when you talk about video games is art. I think the mainstream conversation around that is Wind Waker. Oh, I was going to go with inside. No. Well, yes, but no.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Shadow Colossus is definitely like the poster child for video games is art. For gamers. But again, when you talk about mainstream, I feel like I saw more conversation, especially in like that 2008 to 2012 era where people are up in arms of like, our video games are, are they products? What are they? And like I feel like Windwaker was. kind of a big conversation around there. Man, there's so much we can get into.
Starting point is 00:21:59 How about a journey, a fazz, an inside people are all right in there? I was going to say indie games. You know what I mean? But I think from Rolling Stone, we've got to go like the top level of indie games, which probably would be, well, one, Minecraft. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you said that already.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah, Minecraft's got to be on there. Minecraft's going to be on there. How about NFL Blitz? No. Any sports games like an NFL and SSX and NBA streets of FIFA? Tony Hawk. A Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I think Tony Hawk is the most you see. There's got to be some sort of sports game in here, right? That changed everything. Tony Hawk for sure. Here's what I'm going to tell you. And you're going to be upset by this. Tell me. It being Rolling Stone,
Starting point is 00:22:33 I think another sports game that you could probably get Tecamo Bowl. Techmo Bowl. I think you're going to get like that kind of, oh, we all remember playing this type of game. And Tecmo Bowl, I think, stands out in that way. Okay. Okay. I like that.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Maybe you won't get mad at that. But like, I think that has a high chance as a sports game. Right. Should we hop into it? I think we hop into it. I think we hop in. Well, we didn't call out a call of duty either, though. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:57 There's probably a call of duty in this. Yeah, it's probably the goat modern warfare or early Black Ops. Black Ops one, yeah. All right. This is exciting. This is exciting. We were cooking here. We could keep, the wild thing is that we can like keep cooking.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And if I'm going to count, if I highlight everything and order it, it'll tell me how many we have here because we're pretty close. We've written down 32. Yeah. We can easily, I don't, I'm not pushing to get to 50, but like we could easily get to 50 and then some. Right? Like that's going to be the fascinating thing about this is we could just keep going.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And they're going to have to like peer this shit down to 50 as Rolling Stone. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. I'm excited. League of Legends is League and Dota. Yeah. Let's bring me.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And that's the thing is we're going to learn the vibe. So hopping into it, we're reacting to Rolling Stone, the top 50 greatest games of all time. Greatest video games of all time. Are we ready? Man, this is exciting. I'm ready. Are you all ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Before we actually get there, I'm going to read their blurb. Okay, all right? Set the tone. There was a time when a great video game just needed to be fun. In the days before 4K screens and season passes, it was all that mattered. It didn't matter if the design was janky, if you could finish the whole thing in one sitting, and frankly, it feels way too hard. But things evolved. Over time, games became more layered.
Starting point is 00:24:16 They could tell a story, the length of a novel, or with the strength of a film. They could challenge the mind, either with puzzles or a test of reflexes. Most importantly, they could bring people together. In an online lobby, arcade, or just on the couch, gaming is really the story of the people who play them. But to pick the best games ever made, there's a lot of considerations. Gaming is a medium where sequels thrive. They can always look and play better.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And while certain gaming dynasties run dozens of entries deep, there needs to be representation across the board. Today, everyone's a gamer, but they're not all playing the same thing. For this list, we looked at both how influential each game was at a rival, as well as whether it still holds up. A good game may have played well, but a great one still does. Damn, they spit. They're clicking on this. I like this.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I like this vibe. These are games that made up the culture. Sorry, these are games that made the culture what it is today, and we'll chart where it's going tomorrow. Let me just say this to Rolling Stone right now. You know what? I think y'all got the vibe right. Okay, I know you got the vibe right. And this is what I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:25:21 We didn't say any mobile games. We're going to see some mobile games. mobile games on here. The way they talk about it. Pokemon Go. Candy Crush. Pokemon Go. Yeah, maybe Candy Crush.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Maybe. Hey, they were cooking on that. What about Farmville? I don't know how Farmville. Farmville. Damn, that was good. You know what? You set us up.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You set us up. Now don't knock me down. Okay, build me up. Let's build it up right now. Let's see it. Oh, they also have an editor's note here. Okay. The platforms listed for each game are the platforms for which they are available now.
Starting point is 00:25:49 It may have changed since they were first released. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. All right. Let's hop into it. And number 50, we got Animal Crossing New Horizons. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Thumbs up for me. You know what? I'm not mad at that at all. It took over the world when that one came onto the Switch, especially with the pandemic. I think it put a lot of new people like myself on the Animal Crossing that was not aware of what that game really was and then quickly learned how much fun that can be. Yeah, that's a top 50. I think a lot of games on this list are going to be going for impact. Impact starting off with Animal Crossing New Horizons and coming off of that.
Starting point is 00:26:22 blurb. I think more likely than not, I think you're going to see the Call of Duty modern warfares more than the Call of Duty blackups because of that. I think you're going for things that change the culture and shift the things. Yeah. At 49, we got. Oh, shit. They're only cooking. They're cooking right now. Haiti. Here's your cool indie title that like everybody knows about. That's hot. That's hot. That's a hot one right there. So far, rat a thumbs up, I think. I mean, first two are very strong. Here's the issue. You're two for two right now. You're coming out swinging. So that means when we get down to 30, they better be better than Hades.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I see chat reacting as well. Do you feel like it's too low blessing? Hades? Yeah. No, because this is a top 50. We got to, like, we're talking about the top 50 video games of all time. Thousands of games get released every year. Yeah, like so many games come out. 49 for Hades, like, no, that's, I think. To be on the top 50 is a big deal. Yeah, if I'm making my own personal top. We didn't even think of Hades to be honest. Yeah, we didn't even think of it. But yeah, if I'm making a top 100, like, I think
Starting point is 00:27:18 Hades would probably land somewhere somewhere in this spot, honestly. Very strong, no. Very strong. strong start. Great job. At number 48, we got Cassavadius Symphony of the Night. Called it. There we go. This would be in a lot of people's top fives. One of the OGs. One of the OGs, of course, led to the Metroidvania
Starting point is 00:27:34 craze, which again, we're talking a lot about impact. Iconic status. So far, the first three games that we've read here, iconic. You can't be mad at this. Even if you think they're too low, too high, wherever their placement is, just starting off the list with this and being on the list, big deal. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:27:52 and this is something that would always trip us up in the shit lists of old, right? It's like, okay, we have some really good games, but do we take some left turn? We're like, all right, how is this game ahead of Castlevania? Exactly, that's what I started with Bear on the Hades, right? It's like, I think we're going to start seeing a couple of those in the mid-30s to 20s here.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Where am I going? I might be having too much faith. Okay. I might be having too much faith. You read that blurb now you're riding the high. Because I'm riding the high right now. And I think when we get into those conversations, so far with how it's starting off in a good foot,
Starting point is 00:28:24 I think the conversations will be about, okay, maybe this game isn't better than Hades, but it's going to be more impactful. Okay. Right? I think when we get to, I'm trying to think of an example, maybe College of Dedy Modern Warfare,
Starting point is 00:28:35 which honestly might not be a good example. But, like, you know, I would argue I had more fun with Hades than Colorado Warfare, but I can't say Hades is more impactful. Yeah. Right? I think that might end up being the conversation we're having towards the middle of the list.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Hades hasn't had a commercial with every celebrity known demand for a call of duty... commercial like they did. Hades didn't fundamentally well, I don't say, actually, I would say Hades popularized the rogue-like genre more so than a lot of other games. And I'm
Starting point is 00:29:00 saying popularized in like a mainstream sense. But here's what I'll say is that Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, I think, redefine Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's on the same exact level, but like, I do think it did like something. I definitely agree with that, yeah. Can we
Starting point is 00:29:16 can I take a moment really quick? Take a moment. For someone who hasn't played a Castlevania game, Can I play this in a modern setting? What would be the recommendation? As you see, I'm going back in time and I'm willing to play new games. I think so. If I haven't played one of these, where would I go? The PlayStation Vita.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Can't help him. Because literally that's the last place I remember playing Castlevania's Symphony of the Night. Hold on, hold on, hold on. It must be on PS4. Yeah, people with Chatter saying PS4. It's on phones as well. Is it on PC?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Is this the, is this the Cassilvania to play? Symphony, yes. If you're picking one, yeah, Symphony of the Night is like the people will say it's one of the, greatest games all all time. And I play it on my I play it on whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Okay. Yeah. That sounds great. I'm on. All right. Number 47, we have the legend of Zelda a link to the past.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Way too low. That's low, dude. To the past. Okay. I got to see the rest of the, because so far, every single time I'm like,
Starting point is 00:30:08 all right, what's going to be above this? They find a way to step it up. And I know, like, I'm by it. But like, Link to the past made the formula
Starting point is 00:30:15 that everybody thinks about when they think about Zelda and so many other games have looked to it. Like this is, this is like one of the most impactful games, I would say. This at 47 feels hell low. I'm not mad at it yet.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I got to see some more. I'm happy. It's on the list. You know what I mean? Because I think there's going to be another Zelda way higher. That's my thing is, yeah. The issue is they're going to put a Zelda way higher. 1,000% there's a Zelda way higher. So I think one, they'd probably try to spread it out a little bit, but also I think, yeah, it's tough because every Zelda, we talked about this a lot leading up to tiers of the kingdom.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Most Zelda games are like highly impactful for different reasons, right? Like when you talk about even the original Legend of Zelda for NES, right? The way like the way that I think that opened up an action adventure as a genre. Then yeah, when you talk about what Barry was talking about with link to the past, you then get to Ocarina and what that did for 3D action adventure games. You then hop to Breath of the Wild and what that's done. Like it's tough when you're talking about Zelda's and how to place them and like, you know, again what you want to put higher
Starting point is 00:31:18 I think we're going to get either Breath of the Wild or Tears the Kingdom. They got a good game so far. Good game so far. At number 46, you got League of Legends. Dude, of course. Makes sense. You have to. It is a dominant force. It is a great game. Point blank period.
Starting point is 00:31:34 There's nothing better than stepping up with your squad of five against another squad of five in the arena and playing. Right? Like it is the most simple game. Anyone can understand it. There's deep, you know, and heroes to learn and try to master the abilities, this game has to be on the list.
Starting point is 00:31:51 It's ahead of Link to the past, though. Come on. What we're doing? I mean? I'm already. I'm not mad at it. I think it makes sense. I have no question.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I have no question. I have no question. I would rather play Link to the past, but like, for what League of Legends has become, like, yeah. League is the goat. It's one of the most popular games of all time. It's one of the most popular games still ever since this launch.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah, League is on there. This is what I'll say. Because so far, we'll see if there's a left turn. So far, this is going to get a thumbs up for me. It's still got big thumbs up. I'm going to give this the chance to get two thumbs up for me. We'll see if you can get there. Let's give him one right now.
Starting point is 00:32:26 If you go if the list has ever gotten that. I don't think a list has ever gotten that. But like, and here's what we'll do it. If you can get Hitman Road of Assassination on this list, you'll get two thumbs up for me. Okay, I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Fortnight. Okay. Wow. I love that it's this low. Yeah. because I think it deserves to be on this list but I think you put in the top 10 it starts to get a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I really have like, all right, like I get what Fortnite is. But like cultural impact and significance, what it's done to the marketplace, you can make all of those justifications or to be higher is what I'm getting there. For it to be high, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:02 For sure. But like to be on the list, yeah, we knew it was going to be on the list. There's no way you can't walk around a city street block without asking somebody and they would know what it needs to be on the list, but I don't think,
Starting point is 00:33:11 I don't look at Fortnite as like a gamers game. I think that's the, reason why I'm like, yeah, keep it to the 40s. Like, put it on the list, but keep it a little bit lower. Because I think you want to get to the top 10 and for the people who are in the know to be like, yes, like that game should be there.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Right? Like, Fortnite, huge, one of the most culturally impactful games of all time. But I think we're also talking about like the gameplay and how engaging it is on all stuff, right? Don't get me wrong, Fortnite, great gameplay, engaging game on all that stuff. But you want to have like the heavy hitters when you're talking
Starting point is 00:33:42 about like the actual design of it. be saved for the top 10, in my opinion. I'm really, I'm, I'm, I'm interested to see. Because yeah, I'm one of those that I think this should be way higher. But let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see the top 10. At number 44, you got Elton Ring. I like, it's funny because Sony Town was like, what would you consider a gamer's game?
Starting point is 00:34:01 And this is it. Like, Eldon Ring is the one I'll say. It's on there. Okay. We have a lot of recent big titles that we all know and love on the list, but they are on the lower end. So let's see what's on the front end. You know what I mean? Let's see what's on that top end.
Starting point is 00:34:15 But it has to be on the list. It's that's special. This is giving me like similar feels as what Barrett felt with Link to the Past. We're on my, now you know. Now you understand. Now my. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Let's see how you top this one. Let's see what's above this, you know? At number 43, we got. So let. Yo. Okay. First of all, again, all right.
Starting point is 00:34:31 In my opinion, should be higher. But also, hey. It's on the list. I was not expecting Celeste whatsoever. And also, if you put that right above Elden Ring, I'm not met. Above Eldon Ring, League of Legends and Fortnite. Hey.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Okay. It's Celeste. Have you ever played Celeste, Mike? I have played Celeste a lot. You know, I'm not mad. I'm happy it's on the list. I think the chat called out Celeste earlier on the list. Yeah. And I like seeing that.
Starting point is 00:34:55 The chat, I think it's going to be happy. But like, I'm pleased with so far. There's two different settings for Mike right now. There is the, it's made the list. That's great. I'm very happy. Then there's a whole different discussion of where would we actually place these games? That's a different discussion.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'm not ready quite yet to have. And that's the thing is, again, until we hit an entry where I'm like, what the fuck are we doing? I'm happy. Again, Eldering, the immediate feeling was, how are you going to top this? Yeah. So far, I'm not mad. Okay. Celeste, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I don't like the amount of Celeste hate in our chat. I'm going to be honest. Wow, really? You guys should play that. That's a good game. Even I like that game. It's a good game. Even I like that game.
Starting point is 00:35:36 You know how I get it. Oh, man. So this is an all-timer. All right. Number 42. You. Hey! I meant to shout out a Batman game earlier.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I imagine there's only going to be one on here. I thought it was going to be asylum, honestly, because I think more people in the industry and write about video games have more love for asylum. But I fuck with Arkham City being on this list. That was a huge game. That's still, I would say, again, we've never actually had this official debate on a games cast.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I think the Batman games are better than the Spider-Man games. And I think Batman, Arkham City. is still like cool, top tier and untouched. I mean, Batman Arkham City was the blueprint for every superhero game that we will get now into infinity, right? Like that, it laid the blueprint. It showed like, hey, we can make a really, really great superhero game, and we're going to love that.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And that was City to me. I don't know, man. That sounds like Spider-Man 2 on the PST to me. Oh, hey, hey, we could get a Spider-Man, and I think we might see a Spider-Man. I wouldn't be surprised if it's awesome. Yeah, we probably would. Spider-Man's very good. I think Spider-Man's on this list.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I got nothing. I got another to say. I love Arkham City. Okay. But like it's like an eight out of ten game for me. Okay. So like are you mad that it's a superhero game making? Are you just mad that like it's not Spider-Man?
Starting point is 00:36:54 No, because I view them in the same tier. Okay. Right? Like whether it's Batman or Arkham City or Sparitan Man. So you just think like those, both those games shouldn't be on the top 50 list. No, I don't even think is that they shouldn't be on the top 50 list. I'm looking at this and I'm like, you put this right above Eldon Ring and Celeste. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:07 That's more so where I'm coming from. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And I think even though like I have my bias, I think that's, It's fair. I think it's fair. I do think it's crazy to put this above link to the past.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yeah. Which is funny because the design around this game is definitely heavily influenced by a link to the past. Yeah. Yeah. See, now you're going into bucket number two of alignment, right? Because I could say League of Legends and Fortnite should be miles ahead of Batman, Arkham City. I think we all can make certain, you know, certain arguments for each game.
Starting point is 00:37:36 But like, for Batman to be on the list, I think is a thumbs up, right? Batman, Arkham City and that Arkham asylum, like, Bear brought up, that changed the superhero game genre there and it really set the tone for what we'd see in the future. I like it. Yeah. I'm not mad at it on the list. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It's just, you know, we're, we're, we have like a strong ramp. Okay. So right here at 42, this, with Batman, you're like, okay. But it's okay, though, because like, of course, like, it's not me making this list. It's other people, right? And so, like, I'm, this is okay to me. Okay, okay. But, like, let's see where we go from here with number 41, Metroid Prime.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I like it. And somebody who only played that game two years ago now? It's shit rocks. It's a good-ass video game right here. It's crazy that this game is so good that people now, like we're waiting for the new Metroid and we're just, people are fiending for this, right?
Starting point is 00:38:27 They want this. And so, yeah, I think you got to give respect to some of the older Nintendo titles that have really paved the way and have lasted the test of time and Metroid's on that list. All right. And number 40, we got Chrono Trigger.
Starting point is 00:38:41 So far in this like 50 to 40 range, I think they cooked. I think this is great. Solid first 10, I should say, to kick you off on the list and all titles that you can have arguments about, you have your thoughts on. But I don't think there's been a title yet where you're like, that's not on a top 50 list. I personally think it's too low, but also at the same time, I did think of Krono Trigger earlier when we were guessing what would be on the list. And there was something in my head that was like, I doubt they put it on here. So I'm just honestly happy it's on the list It's such a special game
Starting point is 00:39:13 Every game I'm looking at As I scroll through from this 40 to 50 Yeah every game on here I think should be On a top 50 list If I'm making a top 50 list I'm being even objective outside of my own taste If I'm just thinking like What would the industry put into top 50
Starting point is 00:39:29 All these games go on here Except for I don't even include Batman Arkham Right like I think Batman Arkham I look at I look at as top 100 But again I'm not mad about it being in a top 50 you know what I mean I agree with you on that one I think we're having a good conversation
Starting point is 00:39:42 I haven't seen anyone in the chat truly mad at any of these 10 right I think everyone is agreeing with all of us of like except for Celest for some reason that's a solid 10 weird about that game yeah I think
Starting point is 00:39:53 and like the only thing I really see is people being like oh man that should be higher and I'm not I'm not going to you know lay my flag down on that yet until we get higher yeah because so far again like I stand by there are a lot of incredible video games and I think the only reason why
Starting point is 00:40:08 like some of these are like maybe this low is that we're forgetting how many fucking 10 out of 10 video games there are right how many masterpieces there are so until we're like until we get to the top 30 and they're like oh biomuton then we got a problem then we got to turn to the game off quick bro hey if you like this list so far the first 10 put a one in the chat if you have issues with this list put a two in the chat if you're watching live on youtube and on twitch so engage your interest on the vibes right now one for you like it, two, you don't like it. And we'll just take a quick little super fast look at it right now. And I also want to shout out Super Chats, right? My thing, as we go through, if you see a game and you're like,
Starting point is 00:40:50 that should be higher, that should be lower, super chat in and let us know why. Yeah, we want to hear from you. Yeah. If you're looking at Chrono Trigger and you're like, oh, that should be top 10. Right in, let us know and we'll read it. I will read the superchats that we have already, though. Gator, mashed potato writes in and it says, Gator. Glad you had a chance to finish mouthwashing.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It definitely may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it does some pretty awesome things. I'm happy I played it. At the end of the day, you know, we talk about me stepping out of my box and trying different games. I'm happy I at least played it. I'm happy the time length was only two and a half hours. Anything past that, I probably would have stopped, to be honest with you. But like, it was a good game to at least try and step out. I agree.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And I'm glad I played it also for the fact that even though it wasn't all the way my cup of tea, it is the kind of game I was looking for. I was looking for something that was going to, like, move me in a way or something that wanted to tell a unique. story, something that seemed interesting and like, you know, different from a lot of other games I played. And so, yeah, mouthwashing definitely filled like that thing I was looking for in the moment.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Aaron writes in and says, best fun duo, they'll always give me a good laugh and smile. Thank you so much, Aaron. Give me one of those. Come on now. Zeke Speak says, real quick, Barrett, thank you for pushing Citizen Sleeper yesterday. Started playing this morning and, oh, God, I'm hooked. Fellow TT RPG nerds is literally the game
Starting point is 00:42:03 version of Blades in the Dark. I do like Blaze in the Dark. Oh, did I put Citizen Sleeper yesterday? Apparently. Apparently, according to the time. I've never played it. Andy is the one who constantly. Yeah, Andy and Roger were definitely hyping it up.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And then, yeah, I think Greg mentioned it, but yeah, there was a conversation about it. I mean, I think I was talking about a little bit too, but I checked because I could have sworn I had started Citizen Sleeper. Oh, okay. But then I checked my Steam Library and I didn't own it. And then I checked my PlayStation didn't own it. And I'm like, where did I play Citizen Sleeper? Okay. I don't think I have it on Switch.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Was it on Xbox Game Pass at some point, chat? Oh, maybe. Because I definitely started it. And now I really want to go back to play it. So let me know. Sheffield Boulevard just writes in and says, Gwent. Gwent.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah. I love that. Smoke and Joe 420 wrote in and said, I bet Eldon Ring isn't on the list. Well, you're wrong. You're wrong about that. Myron, 5820, says, the thing with video games in general is they are so subjective.
Starting point is 00:43:06 and with this list so far, I am so pleasantly surprised how much variety it has been so far. No complaints so far. There we go. I like that. And then George Huffman says, Hades needs to be hired. Also, love you guys. We should save that. The three of us or maybe the audience.
Starting point is 00:43:21 At the end, we can pick one or two games that we think should be hired and have a quick conversation. I like that. I like limiting ourselves to two games. One or two. And just say, hey, this is up here. This should be down here. I agree with that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:31 I like that. We can have that. All right. Let's move on from number 40. Let's hit number 39. we got God of War 2018. You know, it had to be on the list, right? It's interesting because like when you start talking about these games
Starting point is 00:43:45 and you start talking about like how recent games have been and the popularity of them, you think something like a god of war usually somehow creeps into the top 10, right? So I am interested of like, man, they're putting some really banger games from Eldon Ring to this that are like taken over the world recently. What's the top 10 that if this isn't in there? I like this. I like this vibe.
Starting point is 00:44:04 This is a respectable spot. for a top 50. I agree also with God of War. The thing that surprises me though is that it's the first God of War or it's God of War 2018 and not Ragnarok. But I think it's a similar thing to Tears of the Kingdom where people have more fond feelings about the first one and maybe the second one is technically better
Starting point is 00:44:23 but like there's more love for the first entry. You like Raggy more than... Oh, I definitely like Ragnarok more than God of War 2018, yeah. Good to know, good to know. At number 38, we got Shadow Colossus. Wow, I doubted you. Let's go straight up called it, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Hey, this is like, when we get to the end, this might be one of the ones where I'm like, there should be top 10. Like Shadow Colossus, all timer.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Um, but again, I'm not mad at it on the list of period, right? Like, I feel like, to your guys's point, I think it's one that you could easily forget.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I think so, yeah, when you're thinking about like, you know, the popular stuff, the big stuff, the fortnight's, the league of legends,
Starting point is 00:44:58 all that stuff. Like, Shadow Colossus belongs on this list. Cool. That's a great one. silver. Oh, nice. I'm almost kind of surprised by how low this is.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Low. Yeah. Okay. I kind of would have thought this would, like a Pokemon, if this is the one Pokemon game, which I, right now I'm assuming it is, I would think top 25. But I'm not, again, I'm not mad. A little surprise. Let's say this really quick. Do we think we see another Pokemon? No. I don't think so, yeah. Okay. Because I don't know if there's one that I would
Starting point is 00:45:30 say is better than gold and silver. Well, like red and blue? No, gold songs. The OG original originals? If they're, if they're going for impact, yes. I could see it, yeah, being hard. But I think it's weird. Because like golden silver is better. I overall, even though like I prefer red and blue because like childhood nostalgia.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Of course. Gold and silver, I think, is the one you pick when you're making a best of list. Okay. Well, we're going to, that's, because we're going to play heart, gold, and soul silver for Nick's Knowslock number two. Yeah. This will be my first time ever seen that because I am just an OG-151. You all are not ready. It's so good. I don't even know what this is. I'm very excited to see.
Starting point is 00:46:06 At number 36, we got super smash. Man, they're cooking. We didn't call that. Smash Ultimate, or Smash Ultimate for audio. Oh, Ultimates. Yeah, Ultimate's the right one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I mean, I think it's the right one. Like, they could have an argument for melee, but I do think Ultimate is the choice to go with. And I love that it's on this list. I love that. I mean, fantastic.
Starting point is 00:46:27 We didn't even think of that one on ours, because there's just so many games to try to put out in five minutes of guessing games. But like, yeah, smash is on there. Again, like, I can't believe sores. I think they're going for like the two thumbs up for me man like I've never given a two thumbs up on the show before but like tracking well we're not even halfway through it though bless they're tracking so well right you're eating your words they got smash ultimate on here like they know what they're talking about they know what they're doing they got some gamers over there you know what rolling stone known for being tastemakers they are rolling stone rolling stone we respect you so far let's see that respect continues after the ad break of course you can go to kind of funny dot com slash patreon or patreon.coms is kind of or you can go to youtube.com slash kind of funny games and spotify and apple podcast to get the
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Starting point is 00:48:19 That's RocketMoney.com slash Kind of Funny. RocketMoney.com slash Kind of Funny. And we're back. RZ Jones writes in with a superchat and says, in my opinion, Arkham City should be higher. It's what set the standard for superhero games. I believe that's what Barrett said or Mike said. I had that, yeah, the blueprint. Yeah, yeah, me and Bear.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I think me and Bear both agree on that one. I think it's a very good game. I think for a top 50, I think it's in the right spot. And I only say that, like, if it had a bigger impact on a fuck ton of more superhero games after it, yes, maybe higher. But, like, how many, realistically how many big superhero games have we seen since then that have, like, really, I don't know, been super successful. And then, and then it says, bless, I love that you will always champion, champion child of Coloss. Oh, you know it. Blessing is your guy for that.
Starting point is 00:49:05 You know it. You know it. One day I'll play it. And I'll understand. Or not. It's the thing where... You know what actually... I stopped telling people to play Shadow Colossus
Starting point is 00:49:14 because it is a weird game to play in 2025, right? Like, the controls... Even with the remaster? Yeah, because they didn't change, like, how the game plays. And nor would I want them to. Like, that game in 2004, whenever it came out, right? Like, was such a mind-blowing thing. But it is also a...
Starting point is 00:49:31 Hey, this is designed a particular way because we want you. to feel a feeling of struggle and frustration at times. They're trying to climb a thing that's like trying to shake you off and all this shit. And so like I've recommended enough to people on shows and stuff where like I get tweets back and they're like, oh, I didn't like it. And I'm like, well, I can't do anything about that. Old game is a little old. But I still do think it holds up in terms of the artistry of it.
Starting point is 00:49:52 It's a beautiful game. All right. We're moving on to number 35, which is Sonic the Hedgehog too. They cooked, man. Wow. Wow. I didn't think of Sonic. I just saw Barrett walk out.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Which he's not mad. I'm sure he's going to fix something. Yeah, yeah. But the way he just walked out the door, it seems to say Sonic 2. Surprise they went Sonic 2 instead of Mania. Sonic Mania, I'll say, is like the best one. That's the bundle of them all right?
Starting point is 00:50:19 Well, it's like, it's a new game, but it is kind of like the best of. Like they have returning levels and all this shit. But when you're talking about classic Sonic, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is my favorite. It has all the levels that you want, right? The sounds, the looks. They have chemical plant zone.
Starting point is 00:50:33 They introduce tails. Yeah. It's such a good thing. I think this is an insane pick, and that's why I did walk out and not because my lunch got delivered. Okay. Because we all know the only good Sonic game is Sonic Media, you know? Sonic Thatchalk, too, is so good. It's a classic.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I mean, I love this big. It was pushing Sega at the time, right? Like, you got to talk about impact, right? It did carry a console. If you rewind time, this was what you saw on the front of every box. This was the game that was getting plugged into that cartridge all the time or into that console all the time. That's the game. I love this. And number 34, you got
Starting point is 00:51:06 Hollow Night. I got to play this game. There's such a variety on this list. Listen, Rolling Stone, I know your staff had connoisseurs on it. Rolling Stone right now is batting better than like video game websites on this list. Like, I love the gamer, but the gamer ain't having a list like this. They don't got a list like this. This is crazy so far. This one's cooking. This one's cooking. I like that at number 33 we got up really quick let's just roll back to that it's that good i'm not played hollow night okay i just know how much people love i haven't played it yeah almost everybody who is played hollow night says it's that good though really yes yes okay good to know i'll put it on my list i bought it's why
Starting point is 00:51:47 the sequel is like one of the it's an indie it's a sequel to an indie game and it's one of the most anticipated games of all time in the last eight years that's my issue is like as someone who hasn't played this i have apprehension on this pick really for top 50 because i think it's just like i'm getting in the media, I'm getting in the social media bias of like, everybody's screaming Silk Song. There's got to be the best game ever. Now I haven't played it. Maybe it is the best game ever.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I mean, judging from my list, Andy Cortez is not the best game ever. It's the 34th. You know what I mean. It's on the top 50. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is me just going from word or mouth. And like, this is, this is where I come back to those iconic picks, the popular picks,
Starting point is 00:52:22 the impactful picks. But then the gamers game picks. This is definitely a gamer's game pick where it's like, oh, if you know Hollenite and if you played Hollenite, like, you know, it's, one of the ones. And I say that as somebody who hasn't played Hollenite, right? But again, I hear the internet talk about it. I'm just like, you know, I bought it, I'll play it, and I'll let you know. I'll also got to play this. Maybe this is one of the
Starting point is 00:52:39 ones I go to. I'm kind of like that. Maybe we play it together. We talk about it. Play this and then play nine souls. At number 33, we got NBA 2K-11. Oh, wow. 2K-11. This is the Michael Jordan one. Yes, this is the time. So right now, if you were to ask young Mike, there was a time between
Starting point is 00:52:59 2006 to 10 when there was a meteoric shift between NBA Live and NBA 2K. It used to be all about NBA Live. We loved the controls. We loved the gameplay. And somehow 2K took over whether you liked it or not. 2K became this juggernaut that is now to this day. Still the number one, right? It's the only basketball game sim that you can find around.
Starting point is 00:53:22 They killed NBA Live. Like, it is that big of a deal. I don't know if I put it on my top 50. I did have the discussion of like what sports game makes the top 50, right? And so like at this moment, if you were to look back at it, you brought it up during Game Showdown, right? This is when we started the Super Player Hero moments, right? Of like MJ had its own moments collection. Now every sports game has a, hey, here's highlighted moments from a superstar that changed the game.
Starting point is 00:53:51 That started with MJ right here in that collection. And that like influenced MLB and like other sports games. this being above every single one of the games that we've talked about so far I think to me at least is insane because they lost me 2K's big
Starting point is 00:54:08 I understand I understand yeah yeah but that's my thing too I get it for impact I remember like this game like I remember playing it every week
Starting point is 00:54:17 like sometimes every day with friends back in college and it being such a big thing and like being obsessed with it and so like to some extent it's the tough thing of when you are an annualized franchise and you have 2Ks coming out
Starting point is 00:54:32 every single year that we become numb to it. We forget how fucking good 2K is as a basketball game and sometimes terrible don't get me wrong. I understand that especially nowadays 2K has so many issues but like if 2K 11 came out and no other 2K came out after it we would be like oh
Starting point is 00:54:48 that's like a top video game of all the time. Right like those games are a fucking moment. I remember how good those looked on PS3 to the point where like I'd be playing it on like a friend's TV during a party and like people would walk by and be like you know that looks like that looks real we're playing on PlayStation 3 behind you people are looking at this game like this looks like a real life thing like that this game was the post shot for yo show this to somebody
Starting point is 00:55:12 the sweat physics sweat physics we talked about it on a top 50 games list you probably have to have one sports title I I would go I would have to have a sports title somewhere you think we're going to get another one we got 2K we're going to get FIFA on here, yeah, for sure. I think this is your only sports title. But I understand where bears coming from as far as like, oh, he puts this mobile ring, you put this 11th. I don't know where you put that.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I think we could make an argument that should be towards the 50s. It's the weird thing of, with my assumption that there's more, like, if you put all the sports games, you can't put all the sports games in 40 and 50. The 4050 is going to be made up with sports games. 33 does feel high. It does get weird when you think about like, oh, you're putting this above like Alderring and all these other things,
Starting point is 00:55:53 Pokemon, like 2K11. No. it's not about Pokemon. In no world, no universe, no timeline. This is about Pokemon. But this is one of those ones, too, where I think, like, you've got to put it somewhere. I think it should be lower. It should be lower.
Starting point is 00:56:08 You know what? I'm not... Right now, I thought you had to have a sports game. I'm not mad at it. This is probably not the sports game I would pick, but when we talk about NBA 2K and what that is, it's... It is one of the more quality picks for a sports game. Especially a sim sports game. It's a very quality pick. One of the more
Starting point is 00:56:24 quality picks you can go for. At number 32, we got Pac-Man, Miss Pac-Man, specifically. What's up with Miss Pac-Man versus the original Pac-Man? Is there a difference? I think a lot of people would prefer Miss Pac-Man. How come? Like, what is it? No idea.
Starting point is 00:56:39 What is the keys points to that? It's basically the sequel. Like, I'm telling you, this is somebody who was not alive in 1982. But as far as I understand about Miss Pac-Man, it's like basically, like, you know, revamped. I don't know if the mazes got different as they go as they, as they, They went or whatever. Chat is saying it's the better version. It's faster.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Yeah. It's a bit harder and stuff like that. Game fuel is better. Cool. Cool. That's great. Okay. Yeah, I think Pac-Man's on the list.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Remember when we played the Pac-Man battle royale last year, we had Pac-Man in the building? I do remember that. That was awesome. Great time. That's great. I have a great photo of me and Pac-Man. And number 31, you got Counter-Strike. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I was going to say, do we see a Counter-Strike or Valoran on this? You have to put one of the OG goats greatest of all time on there. Jbronies are still playing. are still playing Counter Strike. Sure we have Counter Strike 2, but they were still playing Counter Strike 1 before that. This is one of the goats of the first-person shooter, competitive, tactical shooter genre.
Starting point is 00:57:35 It has to be on here. They're going for a lot of classics. Yeah. They're going for a lot of classes. This is on there. At number 30, you got Wii Sports. I knew it would be on there. Someone wrote Wii Sports earlier,
Starting point is 00:57:45 and I forgot how special that was. Everybody was in their grandma's basement, their best friend's basement. We numbed chuck hooked up to their arm, swinging for the fences. Yeah. God, this was one that, like, wasn't, in the same way that we're, I'm talking about 2K 11 and like, like, NBA 2K and how that was a shift and how like that was so popular. We sports is like that on cocaine.
Starting point is 00:58:06 We're like, every fucking household, like if you're hanging out at somebody's house and they got a we moat, oh, we're playing baseball, baby. Oh, we're playing tennis. Oh, we're bowling. It's right. Oh, man. We're bowling through the television. Videos are going viral on cheeseburger.com of people throwing their remotes into their TV. Like, this is a.
Starting point is 00:58:25 You want to talk about like games that moved the world and shifted the world. Like, yeah, Wii sports is one of those. The Wii and this changed the world for a couple of years there. But that's, it was Wii mania for sure. For sure. Before we go on, let's get a quick check. And I need everybody if you're watching live on Twitch and on YouTube, give me one's in the chat. If you're liking the list thus far, give me twos in the chat.
Starting point is 00:58:46 If you've now changed your minds and don't like the list thus far. And of course, super chat away with any of your questions, comments, concerns about some of these picks so far. but I'm seeing still a lot of ones. A lot of people still riding with this right now. There are some twos, but I'm seeing a lot more ones right now. I got myself on the one, on the one side. I would say it's hard to argue against this at 30 above a lot of the other games that we've seen so far just because of how big of an impact it had.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah. Although I don't think it's as good as a lot of the other games on this list. But yeah, this was in every household. AK writes in with the super chat and says, do we see Pong on this list? I'm leaning yes. I also lean yes. I think they're going for so many classic picks They're going for so many
Starting point is 00:59:28 Formative games You're going to go with the OG of OGs Yes You're going to go with Pong I'm going to go no Okay I'm going to go no You do we're too high
Starting point is 00:59:38 To see Pong at this point Yeah I just don't I don't see Pong fitting this list right now It just doesn't feel right But I agree with you Like they they are definitely hitting the Hey what is really left an impact
Starting point is 00:59:49 And Pong would be up Yeah I think it's a tough thing of Maybe we don't see Pong because they do lean toward Tetris and like we're gonna see more classic things but there are I mean in terms of greatness there are way better things than Pong
Starting point is 01:00:01 right like Pong is I mean the video game when you want to talk about like the thing that got the ball rolling like that's Pong but yeah who knows and also at the beginning of in the original blurb they talked about things aging well as well of course you know I mean not to say Pong didn't age well because he's very simple game
Starting point is 01:00:17 you can still play Pong you still have fun but I think there are other games you think of like oh I'm gonna I want to play this still and that's Tetris Tetris might be top two. Yeah, I think Tetris is going to be in your top five guarantee. Yeah. RZ Jones, right, said, should a call of duty be on this list in which one?
Starting point is 01:00:32 We talked about that a little bit. We talked about that at the beginning. We were thinking the modern warfare and the call of duty black ops there, probably those original ones, yeah. Simon Carty right in and says, I think IGN's PlayStation list was better and written by handsome, funny people. Anyway, if Shadow Colossus is in top 10, we riot.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Listen, I love the passion from Simon. I love the passion. And Cardi, you might as well start the riot now because it wasn't top 10. It was not top 10. Bainter S.N says, Arkham is important for licensed games in general, not just superhero games, Fall in Order, Indiana Jones, Hogwarts, alien isolation.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Arkham did that. That's fair. You know what? I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. You're preaching. I like that. People also shouted out the combat system,
Starting point is 01:01:14 which everybody did ape after. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Mello fellow writes in and it says, well, we see Undertale on here, bless. Barrett? do we see
Starting point is 01:01:22 No, I want it on here I would be Especially like The trajectory we see this list Going and shouting out A lot of old school games I would more likely See Earthbound on here than Undertale
Starting point is 01:01:36 I'm gonna say yes I think the fact that we're getting picks Like Hollow Night on here I think they got their ear to the ground As far as like all different kinds of video games Like I think Holo Night is such a good indie pick And I think we saw maybe a couple other indie picks I think Undertale is in that conversation for sure
Starting point is 01:01:49 Like that man we got a lot of super chats coming in shout out to y'all kebbaub says i would have picked sonic three and knuckles on the grounds that it is that it has a save system and two does not yeah but my opinion too has more iconic levels man okay chemical plant zone you would know you would know best i like that weird that neither of you pick mania which is the only good one blessed brought up mania well yeah no i mentioned that like i would i think i would have gone mania over two but i also like the fact that they're going for a class like sonic two more, I think more people play.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I don't know if I can say more, more people probably did play. I'm just giving you shit. I understand what I think. More parents, right? Like more people and more generations probably played Sonic 2. What you think about the, like we talked about the box, the Genesis at that time. Yeah. That was it. That was it. Zeke speak writes in and says,
Starting point is 01:02:35 popularity doesn't always equal quality, but many of these games are slash were popular for a reason. They were genuine trendsetters, had revolutionary gameplay or represented the best of the genre. that's NBA 2K I think that that can be made for NBA 2K in a lot of all these games but like when you think of odd ones that aren't quite fitting the mold NBA 2K fits that to a T
Starting point is 01:02:56 for what it did Stonewallcraft says is we is we sports the best system seller ever it might depend on how you'd find best but I'm gonna say yeah give me a better one yeah find me a couple better ones
Starting point is 01:03:09 I don't know like a system seller like would we count Mario 64 as a system seller I'm going to say yes for we Oh Tetris Tetris was a system seller You can't yeah it's Tetris It's Tetris
Starting point is 01:03:22 That's a good one chat In this last one for now CMS and L writes and it says Minecraft top five calling it now Minecraft GTA 5 Red Dead Redemption Red Dead Redemption
Starting point is 01:03:37 I'm just trying to Now I'm having the fun part of my mind Of like what's top five here Tetris, Minecraft, GTA 5, Red Dead. See, I'm with you on the first three. I'm not with you on redden. I like that. You know what?
Starting point is 01:03:52 I'm going to say Portal. Okay. I think portal's on the top of... I like Portal. I like Portal on that. Okay. Keep thinking, though. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I like that. Now you start chewing, chat. Now you start thinking. I'm like, what is? Because you're seeing... We've seen 20 so far. Let's get into the next. And number 29, we got Uncharted 2 among fees.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Holy shit. They went with uncharted. We did. I'm surprised. That means last of us is definitely top five. Does that mean To Manner's out? Last of us I see top ten. Tomb Raider was never in my...
Starting point is 01:04:19 No, yeah, that was never happened. And the only... The main reason why I said earlier that Uncharted wouldn't make the list is because there's so many games, and I feel like if they already choose the Last of Us, which would obviously be on this list,
Starting point is 01:04:36 they might, like, be a little bit more reserved about doing a, like, a second naughty dog game. but yeah, not too surprising. Yeah. They picked, I mean, I'm more of an uncharted four person. That said, Uncharted 2 is, I think, the right decision. It should be three.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Like, it was a, like, it was, I think it, it took the franchise to another level. Uncharted one came out, it's like, okay, cool, like Uncharted. Uncharted 2 came out and like, the way it opens up in that train scene. I agree. Oh. I mean, Uncharted is the modern day Indiana Jones, the globe trotting adventure that everyone wants to go on and everyone wants to see. It's a ton of fun.
Starting point is 01:05:12 it was a fantastic series. Yeah. I would agree with chat here. I think a good amount, a good handful of games that's above I don't necessarily agree with. Yeah. But the influence it had in terms of more kind of like, especially in like that PS3 era of like really pushing the limits of how like film feeling a video game can be.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Right. Yeah, cinematic. That was the word I was looking for. film feeling also sounds good though. I like it. Alliteration. We get uncharted on the list. And to double down and also to bring up a chat, I saw come and go, right?
Starting point is 01:05:51 Somebody mentioned, like, it's arguably maybe the most influential, like, PlayStation game. When you think about what PlayStation is nowadays, you don't get, like, and the way that we talk about Las of us being the turning point, it's that weird chain effect of. You don't get Last of Us without getting uncharted, right? And, like, Uncharted 2, to Barrett's point, cemented what this is in terms of the cinematics of it, in terms of, like, the larger than life nature of it. You don't get Last of Us without uncharted to.
Starting point is 01:06:12 You don't get God of war, like modern God of War without it. You don't get ghosts. You don't get Horizon. Like a lot of the games that have established what PlayStation is today, I think links back to Uncharted 2 among things. I was going to ask you, is Uncharted the turning point for PlayStation that goes into that narrative-driven, you know, third-person action adventure game that everyone loves and adores him wants all the time.
Starting point is 01:06:31 1,000%. Is this the moment? It was uncharted. Yeah, I agree with you. I think it is uncharted. Again, the original Incharted trilogy, I didn't vibe as much in terms of like gameplay and stuff, right? Like, I didn't really vibe as hard until Incharted 4.
Starting point is 01:06:41 and I was like, you know, this fucking fantastic. I respect it. I like that. I respect. Okay. 29. That's a big one. And number 28.
Starting point is 01:06:48 We got Minecraft. Wow. Okay. Really thought this would be in the top five. I like it here. Maybe it was the chat's influence, but I also think like Minecraft is mega big. Yeah. But like, of course, I'm still giving a thumbs up.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It has to be on this list. I mean, top five feels like it would have been too high. I guess in terms of like it's one of the most popular and iconic games. Yeah. But is it one of the best? A game that gives it. you the ultimate freedom to do anything. It sounds like you're talking about GTA-5.
Starting point is 01:07:17 The game that's going to be in the top five. Minecraft, a game that lets you do anything and everything. What if we're not thinking big enough? Okay. There's a game, Mike, that everybody's playing. Yeah. That is the direct competitor to Minecraft and it's called Roblox. My mind went to that of like, oh shit.
Starting point is 01:07:33 If Minecraft is 28, is Roblox on this list? What if Roblox is not on this list? Is Roblox on this list? Put dreams in the top ten. At number 27, we got Resident Evil 4. We didn't even think about it. The chat brought up Resident Evil 4. I was going to ask you, do we see a Resident Evil in this?
Starting point is 01:07:51 And yeah, I think you have to have a Resident Evil in the top 50 for sure. Where you put it, it depends on whatever. But, yeah, four, I just got done playing it is incredible. Yeah, you had to have Resident Evil 4 on the list. I mean, again, that's a nut. When you want to talk about a turning point game in the similar way is uncharted, right? Like without Resident Evil 4, a lot of those games that I mentioned, you also don't get either. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Res. Evil 4, I think, is like, one of the predecessors I would say as far as something like Last was as well, like as much as uncharted. And so, yeah. Residency Evil for the Resident Evil? Yes. In most to all people's minds? Yes. Not two? Four or two, more people would, a lot more people would lean four. We'd go four than two? Four than two. Four than two. Okay. Okay. I like that. I'm happy with this. I liked four. As someone who has now played two, four, five, six, seven, and eight. I've almost completed the series. I know there's some more I'm missing like. three and a couple earlier ones, but like, I'm having a ton of fun with these earlier ones, like four. It was a great time. And number 26, we got Mass Effect 2. There it is. Has to be on there. Has to be on there.
Starting point is 01:08:51 The epic sci-fi adventure. Epic. Skyrim is probably top five, right? Skyrim might be in this top 20 right here. Skyrim might be right here. At number 25, we got Starry Valley. Okay. I have not played Starry.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Valley. I haven't sold my soul to the farm life yet. I like, you know, it's a cultural impact. People like it. A lot of people love Starry Valley. A lot of people love Starry Valley. A number, which we already got at Animal Crossing. We had Animal Crossing at 50 at 50. See, Animal Crossing at 50 in Starry Valley at 25. I, for the cozy people in the chat.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Yeah. Does that seem right to you? I think it sounds right. Above Minecraft? It's in that same realm. Yeah, the Minecraft Starry Valley Animal Crossing Well, even though that's like a weird What do they call it? Venn diagram. But I would have thought Animal Crossing
Starting point is 01:09:49 New Horizons above Starry Valley. But also the way that Star Dew Valley was able to Especially it being an indie game Break past like just the gamers sphere Where it's like my mom who never plays video games And hasn't played video games since Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2005 plays Stardu Valley. I were like shitty.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Like there are so many people who fuck with that game. And there's so many, like, quality of life things as a farming, life-sim thing that people love and still play to this game, plays to this day, nine years later, right? Whereas, like, do people talk about the most recent Animal Crossing like that five years later? A lot of people are fucking with Starry Valley over. They are. Yeah. With all the other. I mean, pretty much everybody in chat is like, no, Starry Valley is the one.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah. And, like, kind of, and to the point, right, somebody mentioned, like, kind of redefined or maybe even, like, define the cozy genre. Like, were cozy games a thing before Starty Valley? when you think about it One day I'd like to try it But I just I don't know At number 24 We got the Sims
Starting point is 01:10:49 Have to have to have the Sims on this Is right Yeah This one changed the world This one was special man I still played in the Sims In this day I have the OG Sims on my computer
Starting point is 01:11:01 From 2000 I love this game more than anything It is so good Mike I'm gonna be honest I don't think I'm gonna see Hitman rule of assassination I don't know You know what, but you would be in that room talking about it.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Maybe they surprised you, though, bless. And you would get them to think about it. Yeah, I mean, I consider Hitman world of assassination. Just think about it. I think now that we've hit the Sims part of the list, it's like, yeah, no, hit me is not going to fit this. Oh, we're going for the best of the best. We're going now we're at the, like, we're at the cream of the crop.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Yeah. Right. Like, if you weren't, they weren't talk about this game on CNN, you're not on the list. Like, we're going mainstream, mainstream now. Shout to the Sims for making the list. Sims well deserved. Got to be on there. And number 23, we got Tony Hawk's pro skater.
Starting point is 01:11:38 The first one. There's our skater. Interesting that they went one instead of two or three. It should definitely be either two or three. One, I think Polly just burst onto the scene and showed people what could be and what was. From the soundtrack to the grinding to the tricks. Not being overly super real life simulation and more being the arcadey fun that people want. That's two.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Two does all of that, but just wait better. That's the one people still think about to the state. over the first one. I wonder, yeah, we'd have to call Rolling Stone and say, can you give us the reason why one over two? I mean, we have the blurb here, right? Tony Hawk's pro skater remains one of the best examples of the intersection between games and culture.
Starting point is 01:12:20 As you take control of 10 real-life pro skateboarders from Chad Muska, Muska? Yeah, Chad Muska. To Hawk himself. The world of extreme sports becomes an open playground rife with experimentation as you're tasked with chaining together some of the most ludicrous physical feats possible for a wholly satisfying score attack. Or you can
Starting point is 01:12:36 face plant hardened to the ground, which has its own novelty. Yeah, they don't really go into like what Tony Hawk's pro skater is a way of experiencing thrills of skateboarding. Yeah, they don't go into like why this one. Yeah. I'm not mad at it though. Like again, like Bobby B. Bob Burgquest. At a certain point, it's like, you know, what, it doesn't really matter. But it does, Tony Hawk's pro skater, cool. Like, again, great game. Impactful game. Led to a franchise, right? Like, I think that's an impact on this. To see Tony Hawk on this, which I asked you guys, a sports game, be on there. And Baird and you both said, yeah, I think Tony Hawk. It's a lot. It's, it's a lot of, it's,
Starting point is 01:13:08 on the list. 23, too. And I think that's good. About the top half. I think a 20 hot game deserves to be in the top 25. Yep. I like that. And number 22.
Starting point is 01:13:18 We got Call of Duty for Modern Warfare. There you go. Have to have it. Have to have it. Man, this is when Call of Duty really put on. This 2000, this like 2005 to 12 window here was like call of duty taking over the world. And it became like, oh, we are going to be the one from this point forward. and we're going to push this out every single year
Starting point is 01:13:40 and we're never going to change and people are going to love this. And yeah, this is the moment right here. Yeah. Do we still see Halo? Yes, I do still think you see Halo for the cultural relevance of it being that first person shooter
Starting point is 01:13:55 to come onto a console with the controller having the twin thumbsticks and that kind of how special that was. I do think you see that, yes. And number 21, we got Fallout 3. I love it. I love it. There was some Bethesan title that had to be here.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Skyrim is still on this? I'm shocked that this is here. You're shocked by Fall 3? Really? Well, I think because we've gotten this far. Not that it's on the top, because, like, I think I would have expected it from 25 to 50. The fact that we're at 21 and they're saying Fallout 3, I think surprises me. Because I'm almost like, wow, I'm surprised they didn't go with New Vegas.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Because New Vegas is more the fan favorite pick, right? Yeah, but three, three is the one that changed the game over New Vegas. Yeah, when you think about Impact, which is now that we're getting into this top half, these feel more of like what shift in the culture rather than what is the better installment. Yeah. Which I get, I don't fully agree with. I feel like you got to find a balance between the two, but yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I mean, Fallout 3 is in my top 20 games of all time. Absolutely. I love Falaw 3. I like that. So I'm happy with this pick. I like seeing Fallout. I think we're riding a high, of course, off the TV show and how good it is. But like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 When you go back to 2008, Fallout 3 was very, very good, right? You're talking about Marrow Wind, Oblivion. This is before Sky. rim, they take it to a wild wasteland, you know, it was a fun time, it was really special. Having the VAT system, having the crazy story. This is a good
Starting point is 01:15:17 time. Remember three dog? Yeah. Three dog radio, man. And number 20, we got Mario Kart 64. Yo. Yeah, this is impact. They're cooking. They're cooking. This is not the best iteration. This is definitely impact. But I'm fine with it because this hits me.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Because you just think, I know Barrett is definitely on the opposite side of this as far as, I when I think of Mario Kart, I immediately think of Mario 64 first as well. Okay. It's just 8 like 8 is the game. You're right. I know, like, I can't argue against 64 like, how huge that is. Eight is is infinitely bad. Eight Deluxe is infinitely better than Mario Kart
Starting point is 01:15:54 64, but there's something about like But is this a best, top 50 games? Is this, what's the title? I think it's greatest. I think it's on there. Mario 64 like just means something. man. It just means something. It was the OG Cartracer. It put us on. It put us on the map. It was special, man. You had the battle mode
Starting point is 01:16:15 in there, too, that you could play four-player co-op on the screen and everybody's together. I will say if anybody walked into this room right now and was like, hey, we're going to play Mario Kart, which one do you want to play? 10 or 10 times I'm saying 64. I prefer to play 64 than 8-D-Lu-LUx. Even acknowledging that 8-Dulx is way better, but
Starting point is 01:16:32 this means something to me, man. Let's get a quick check-in once again before we move on. of course put a one in the chat if you're still rocking with the first 30 here on this list one if you like the list two if you don't like the list let us know in the live chats on YouTube and on Twitch uh we're seeing a little more twos then than normal but we're still seeing a lot of ones right now yeah the ones are coming in the ones are coming in the rolling stone is still killing it right here rolling stone still killing i like mario card 64 i actually love this pick i love this pick i'm going to say love it love that bit played so many hours this game might be one of the
Starting point is 01:17:05 highest hour accounts I have in a video game. Bringing in some super chats for you, Jonathan Dollison writes in and says, do we see an interactive drama on this list? Heavy rain, the Walking Dead, or Until Dawn? Out of those three, I think the Walking Dead has a chance. Heavy Rain never had a chance. I would say Walking Dead. I didn't know if
Starting point is 01:17:23 Barrett was going to chime in on that one. I was going to say Walking Dead would be my pick out of that. You get a maybe out of me, a maybe. Margaret Peterson writes in it says, Starty Valley and SIF 5. We got Starter Valley. Let's see if we get SIF 5. Man, you get real nerdy
Starting point is 01:17:37 if you start talking about SIV games. Like, that's when you know, like, these are, we got gamers here. We got some nerdy picks. We already got some real, but if they put out of SIFs, at top 20, I think we got maybe, I think we got maybe three more, like,
Starting point is 01:17:48 super nerdy picks left. So Siv would be on there then. Because I think we got, I'm going to say three more super nerdy picks. Five more, like, big, cultural impact style picks. Yeah. Maybe, like,
Starting point is 01:18:03 seven more like gamers game style picks and then I'll say five surprises where me and you are going to be like oh I didn't think about that but good pick I'm still here's my three
Starting point is 01:18:15 that I'm looking for right now you ready for this I like the sieve so I'm gonna add it on there because I think it's wild and interesting yeah Age of Empires 2
Starting point is 01:18:21 and Starcraft where we see those okay I like it just because of the impact what it did you only have 19 games left I was doing I love the bad
Starting point is 01:18:31 I was trying so hard you were throwing numbers out I was trying so hard. Yeah, I have to be from here. Math is hard, you know. Whatever way we writes him says, needs some wind waker love, a favorite game of all time.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Well, let's take a poll. Will we see another Zelda here? Yes. Yes. Unequivocally. It'll be Zelda. Unequivocally.
Starting point is 01:18:48 We might see too. Oh shit, we might see too. Zelda's that kind of franchise. Outside of Mario cart, we haven't seen a Mario yet. Like a mainline Mario. They're saving both of them for the top 20.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Shit. I've seen World Warcrafts That's got to be on this list We haven't seen a while Wow is definitely on this That's got to be up here Zeexpeake says Starry Valley Almost stole my girlfriend
Starting point is 01:19:11 Dangerous game If I ever get a girlfriend I'll show her Star do valet What? Is that what you call it? This guy's crazy And then George Huffin says Do we see the last list
Starting point is 01:19:27 In part two? If so, which is higher I mean at this point You're only going to see one of them I think Yeah, it's part one. Number one. It's number one.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I don't know. I think it's half and half. I think it's a 50% shot. I always feel like people talk about one over two all the time. You know what? I'll say one. Maybe it's 60, 40. Like, I feel like there's always a shot of it being last as part two instead of one.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Yeah. Just for like, I think just this high on the list, it's way more likely we, likely we see part one than part two. This is exciting, chat. Here we go. Let's go. Number 19. we got Baldersgate 3 Had to be on there
Starting point is 01:20:06 Had to be on there Had to be Is it low? Like it should it be top 10? We could have that conversation Yeah I mean we'd have to see what's below it here We'd have to see what's you know
Starting point is 01:20:16 On this list But like Ball is it I go to this Isn't it special that Baldersgate 3 Was that good Made that really was that good You were talking to a Gibroni
Starting point is 01:20:26 that played with Kyle way back in the day Balders Gate 2 on the PC I don't think anybody even was playing that game or the amount was very low, right? To then have to come out in 2020 and change the world like that, I never would have thought that. I think it's at the right spot for how recent it is. I think a lot of the rest of this list is going to be not games from the last three years.
Starting point is 01:20:49 That's a good call. This might be the most recent like. And I think they're trying to like maybe fight against the recency bias and be like, okay, like it's definitely up there. But like how up there do we feel comfortable with right now being only, not even two years removed from full release, you know? Like that. And number 18, we got Madden NFL 2004, baby.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Wow. Holy shit. We're getting a FIFA on the list. We're getting a FIFA. We're getting a FIFA. Yo, you think we're getting a basketball and an American football game and not a fucking soccer game? Rolling Stone is, you know, in the U.S., and we don't care about soccer over here. I love it.
Starting point is 01:21:30 I love it. I love it. 2004. Who's on the cover of Man, 2004? Let's take a look. Was this the one that added the hit stick? This was the game show on question.
Starting point is 01:21:38 This is the one with Mike Vick on it. Yeah, this is the one that changed the world. Oh, yes. Yeah, this is the one. Fuck, that any kid talks about this is the one.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Yeah, this is the one. Again, if we're talking about, like, representation on the list, and you're going to pick sports games. They're picking the right ones,
Starting point is 01:21:55 man. They are picking the right ones. Like, NBA 2K-11 and Madden NFL 2004, like you are picking the right area. of these games. That said, like, some of my favorite gaming memories are from this game. That's why, like,
Starting point is 01:22:07 so much back in the day. I want to be mad, but then I do think about the memories, Barry. Yeah, do you? Like, I remember,
Starting point is 01:22:13 I think about the soundtracks. I think about, like, having friends over and playing, like, Madden NFL 2004. Yeah, like, I'm pretty sure this is one,
Starting point is 01:22:20 like, yeah, Blink 182, I think was on this soundtrack. Like, it was alien ant farm on that. Oh my God. I remember, like, one of my favorite gameplay moments is, I think I was playing with my stepdad
Starting point is 01:22:29 and the team he was playing at it, like, literally fumbled and at like the five yard line and I picked it up and ran all the way back 95 yards to get a touch it. And it was like shit like that word. Y'all got me tear up with memories. Let me hit you a couple with them. Ready for this? They have, I'm feeling this by Blink 182.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I'm feeling this. I love that. And then they got never scared by bone crusher. Yeah. I ain't never scared. What? That shit was so good, bro. Pump it up by Joe But it.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Yep. Pump, pump it up. Oh, shit. Napy roots, dude. Come on. Outcast is in here. It's like, I told Greg this, that's why I was so mad at NCAA football this year. Because I was telling him, it's like, when you go back to all these sports games in those 2000s era, it was the soundtrack.
Starting point is 01:23:12 You turned it on to know what were the top 12 songs that Madden would choose, that FIFA would choose, because that's what would rock with you through the year. And they come into NCAA football and just have the drums all the time. It was like that felt like a slap in the face. Yeah. You know what I mean? We got to elevate that. But man, shout out. You know what?
Starting point is 01:23:30 This was a choice. It was a choice. This was a selection here. You're going to have some of these. And again, like I mentioned, we're going to have a few picks where we're like, oh, didn't think that. But I'm not, I'm not mad for some reason. Like, I feel like I should be madder at this than I am.
Starting point is 01:23:43 But like, I think it's weird to have it specifically if this is the highest sports game we have. And maybe it's not still at this point. I think it's weird to have it above Tony Hawk one if that's the only Tony Hawk game on this list. Oh, definitely. That's my only, that's my only gripe. Now, quick little vibe check from the chat.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Uh-huh. The live audience is, there's, they're kind of, they're going back and forth on this. They're wavering. There's definitely a little bit of, like, people's heads are popping up, like, I don't know about this one. See, here, here's the thing, right? Y'all am mad right now, but wait until we get to number 17, and it's something that we all fuck with. You're going to be back.
Starting point is 01:24:15 You're going to be back. You're going to be back. Then we clap. You ask them right now, they're all going to say to you. Give us two minutes. I'm, I like Madden. As a sports generic Gibrony, as all of you know me as, I've played mad, I've played all these sports games.
Starting point is 01:24:30 every single year. So, yeah, Madden has to be on a top 50 list for sure. And number 17, we got Diablo 2. Oh, they got my fantastic, fantastic selection. That's an incredible choice right there. You know what? We're so back, everybody. We're so back.
Starting point is 01:24:48 And number 16, we got Red Dead Redemption 2. Oh, shit. The second Red Dead Redemption. We're back. All right, now put your ones and twos in, exactly. Everybody's cool. this one right now. Everybody's back. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:25:02 And number 15, we got The Witcher 3, Wild Hunt. Whoa. I thought this was going to be top 10. Oh, wow, top... Yeah, we're going to get there in a second. I mean, yeah, this top 20 is really, you know, it's, it's tight. It's warm it up. It's definitely warming up. And number 14, we got Street Fighter 2. There you go. Like I mentioned. There's your fighting.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Surprise is so high, but I'm happy. Shout out. Yeah. Yeah. Nice to see a fighting game on the list. Street Fighter, as you always talked about, the big impact of that. You know, before this, I didn't mention burnout three. And, like, we're too late. We're not going to see burnout three. Okay. But could you imagine?
Starting point is 01:25:35 Right? And number 13 of being brown three. That'd be crazy. That'd be fucking sit. A fighter, okay. Should we find out? Let's find out. Number 13, we got Doom.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Here's your Doom. Here's your Doom. Here's your Doom. Again, you're getting your classic iconic picks, things that defined the medium. I love this. I like this selection. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. And number 12, we got World of Warcraft.
Starting point is 01:25:57 There we go. Hey, I'm not mad at that. Very high. Yeah. Well, I would have probably put a top 10. Yeah. To be honest with you. I think more than how important it is.
Starting point is 01:26:05 I think that's a top 10 game. But yeah, like, wow. Wow. These are all everything so far. I have not been mad at, surprisingly enough. I have not been mad at any of these. And number 11, we got Halo, Combat of All. The first one.
Starting point is 01:26:19 The first one. Well, we talked about it. You know, Halo being that first one. Yeah, I think me and Barrett went with three on that one. But number one is the correct choice on this. So, yeah, I'm loving what we're seeing here. First console first-person shooter games Actually like really pull it off and make it feel good
Starting point is 01:26:35 And literally it did Fully change the ecosystem in terms of console games and shooters Before we get to the top 10 I want to bring in some super chats for you Man you guys are just letting it roll in with let it ride Come on let's get crazy Gary the third writes in it says if this was if this were most influential games This list is good but for the 50 greatest video games
Starting point is 01:26:56 It's a bad list Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 is better than 1. Mario Card 8 is better than MK64. Now here's my thing, right? Talk to me. Talk to me. And I'm not making the stance here, but greater versus better. Because I think better, I understand what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:27:10 But when you're talking about greatness, I feel like you can define it how you want to. Because I do think you can put in, like, quality you can put in how well it ages. But I think you can also put in, like, impact and icon status and cultural, like, impact, right? Like, I think that stuff might fit within the definition of greatest. Okay. I like that. I like that. Snow 13 says, I think we still see a Monster Hunter game.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Worlds, maybe, question mark. That would be crazy. That super chat might have come in earlier. It probably came in around the 20s. Okay, I like that. Yeah, I am surprised we haven't seen a Monster Hunter. Very good game. But, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:46 I'm not. I could see it being one of those being in a top 100. Top 100. Honorable mention, maybe. I like that. Christopher Burnett says Mario, Cart 64 is my favorite one. Fun story, I get to play Mario Kart 64
Starting point is 01:27:59 against Val Kilmer and Panic at the Disco at my house back in 2004. Good times. What a combo? What's the ice man? What was going on at your house? What was the goddamn about your hands? That's sick. Man. What parties were you thrown? Yeah, they live in Madison Square Garden,
Starting point is 01:28:12 apparently. Electric Greg Tar says probably won't see it on the list, but as far as sports games go, NHL 94 was a huge impact for me person. Man, dude. You know, we talk about this top 10. maybe. Probably not, but a maybe. Zeke Speak says BG3 is so insane. We're literally living in an era where every single RPG
Starting point is 01:28:31 will be compared to it for the foreseeable future. 100% deserves it. Yeah, a couple people were like, Mike, are you sure it's like, you know, it changed the globe. And it's like, I feel like we're living in that presently. I think 10 years so now you'll look at that comment I made and be like, yeah, we probably were right on that one. I'm like, yeah, this one has everyone in a headlock right now. Like, you got to think about, you know, Bethesda, one of the biggest RPG makers ever, right? They're putting out games that take over the world. And they put out
Starting point is 01:28:58 a game right after Baldos Gate 3. And what everybody had to say was, uh, this ain't hidden like Balders Gate 3. Maybe like, yo, feels old. This game, Balder's Gate 3 made this game feel really old. They did that to Bethesda. That's tough. That's crazy. Well, Bethesda did that to Bethesda. Butthes also did that to Bethesda back in 2015. And that was fucking almost a decade
Starting point is 01:29:17 before that, you know? Yeah. But yeah, but like, think about that though. Like, we're talking about the Witcher 3 Balders Gate 3, right? Like, these are generational RPGs. Joshua Swinker says, Mike Vic in this game is still the most broken player in Madden history. Maybe sports game history. Might be one of the greatest
Starting point is 01:29:36 moments of all time is your friends selecting the Atlanta Falcons and running all over you. Yep. The coolest. And he was left-handed too, so you could roll out to the left. No one rolls out to the left because you always roll right-handed. So now all of a sudden you're changing the whole entire game. God damn, it's the coolest. What a fucking great game. Let's put some Madden.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Let's just turn on the soundtrack to Madden. I'm down to some Madden. And then Mr. Hawksristen and says, Madden 2004 got me into sports games, rented it just so I could listen to Action by Blink 182 on repeat, ended up actually playing slash loving it. Yeah, that was like the demo title
Starting point is 01:30:08 of that song. Now, of course, before we go on any further, I want to do two things. One, of course, I want to hear from the live audience, so please put your ones in the chat if you're still rocking with it. Put your twos in the chat on YouTube and on Twitch. If you're not rocking with this list, before we into the top 10.
Starting point is 01:30:23 So we're in the top 10. And then before we roll in, right? I mean, do you want to, are you trying to guess? I think, I was just going to say, let you and I tee up a couple of guesses here. Portal. Okay. I think a Portal game is going to be top 10. Final Fantasy 7.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Portal. Final Fantasy 7. A metal your solid game. Okay, I like this. Tetris. Tetris. That's four. GTA has to be on this.
Starting point is 01:30:43 A Mario game or two. Oh, shit. But let's say one. Because at this one, you might have to do one. You're getting one. I think you get two Mario games. I hope so, man Starcraft
Starting point is 01:30:53 Put some respect on his name I mean maybe I could see Starcraft being on there Maybe Starcraft above Wow We got my Oh you're right That's a great question
Starting point is 01:31:02 Yeah would they put it above Wow at this point I don't know Man did RTS It put RTSs on the map Even though a lot of people out there Shout to Warcraft 3 I see y'all out that
Starting point is 01:31:10 I think you get into Zelda Zelda I think it's just Ocarina Let's give Oh wow Yeah probably Ocarina right Yeah Zelda 7
Starting point is 01:31:17 And then maybe Bioshock Like either Bioshock or Half-Life? I would say Half-Life more likely than- Bioshock? Yes. The way that Half-Life, like,
Starting point is 01:31:27 bless almost all of the immersive sim games that we fucking love today would not exist without that game. And, like, Bioshock wouldn't exist without that. Like, if we're talking about, yeah, but like- Impact of the, like, of the medium. Half-Life is that game.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Half-Life definitely had, like, game design impact, but like cultural, the way it hit culturally, I feel like Bioshock hit culturally. That's fair. Right? Like, I remember going to school.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Also, everybody was talking about, file shock. There's the weird in between as well of system shock. But people don't talk about the... Because at that point, like, we're talking about D.S.X. And I don't think... How about this? How about this? We haven't talked about it. And I saw someone just put in helldivers. Go back to the O.G. Left for dead. No.
Starting point is 01:32:05 No. Really? That's a top of... Really? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Oh, have we not seen GoldenE? We haven't seen Gold Nye. I think GoldenE's on there. Okay. That's like eight... I think we named eight games. They're going to be on there for sure. To me, Halo Combat Evolve kind of takes the point.
Starting point is 01:32:21 place of like golden eye of console first person shooter i don't think so haven't seen any mobile like true mobile is there anything at this point that'll that'll make it what solitary i know that's not mobile but that's not a top 10 video game wait did we say last of us already no we haven't seen last of us that would be our number nine though right no we haven't got any we haven't got any last we literally just got uncharted then that's number nine yeah or that's nine of them that's nine out of ten I think we'll legitimately got them Skyrim. Oh, fuck, right.
Starting point is 01:32:52 That's 10. That has to be 10. That's our 10. That's our 10. The has to be 10. That's our 10. Listen, I love you. I love that.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Pinball. I think we nailed it. That's that dumb asser. Guitar hero. Guitar hero couldn't show up on this top 10 and I would be all right with it. And number 10.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Let's see. We got Super Metroid. Five. Oh, shit. Yeah, we didn't even think about Super Metroid. They got two of them. They do have two of them.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Yeah. They do have two of them. them. You have to. Okay. I see. I'm not mad. I'm kind of blown away, but I'm not mad at it. Yeah, this makes all the sense. Yeah, let's keep going. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. Let's keep going on that conversation. Yeah. At number nine, we got Elder Scrolls five, Skyro. Have to. Yeah. We have to. Yeah, we knew that. And number eight, we got Final Faces of Seven.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Yeah, love that. This top five is to be insane, dude. Yeah, this can be crazy. And number seven, we got Metal is solid. Yeah, we're in. Now, this top five is where you make or break this entire list. What the fuck is the top five? It's very exciting. It's very exciting.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Your name you go all. Like, these are the top five games that they're naming already. These are the trendsetters. Really quick. Let's just park the bus for a second. Uh-huh. We look at those first. We got Metal Gear Solid.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Final Fantasy 7, Skyrim. Mm-hmm. And Super Metroid. Okay. We're cooking right now. I think Super Metroid on for me is a little shaky. A little shaky.
Starting point is 01:34:15 on that? I'm not shaky, but it is... I'm not shaky. Yeah. It just makes sense. It's just you get two of them. Yeah, but they're different enough. They're different enough.
Starting point is 01:34:24 That's two Zeldas. You're going to get a second Zelda. Okay. Okay. You're going to get you. I'm final phase and Metal Gear's odd both being in the bottom five or like in the five through six to ten. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:34:34 All right. And number six, we got Half Life two. Holy shit. Okay. Okay. All right. We're in the top five. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Top five. All right. Make a break rolling stone. Make a break. At number five, you got Last of Us. Makes sense. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:34:50 It was in our top 10. It makes sense. Makes sense. I would have put Meliger above it. But I would have put it. We can talk about the rankings differently, but yes, this is in the list.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Yeah. At number four, we got. Super Mario World. Now let's pause here. Pause. Top three. What the fuck is the top three? I think.
Starting point is 01:35:08 How are we talking about Mario World and Melior Solid? I think Ocarina is definitely in the top. three. Yes. Oh shit. Tetris. Tetris and Mario 64. This is where you see your two marios and they're both in the top ten.
Starting point is 01:35:24 I mean, that makes sense. I think those are very, but we haven't got GTA, though. Oh, shit. If they don't have a GTA on this list, the Listern, maybe. Yeah, maybe, maybe a link to the past was the Zelda pick and we're not getting Ocarina. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:35:39 No Breath of the Wild. Yeah. No Tears of the Kingdom. See, those I'm less shocked by just because. even though they're like universally praised, there are like, you know, people who don't vibe as much with those games. I would be shocked to not see Ocarina at all on this list.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Man, he's going to be crazy. This is going to be crazy. All right, give it to us. All right. Number three, we got. Grant Debtado 5. Have to. Got to. Have to put it on that. I appreciate because I feel like GTA 5 over the years
Starting point is 01:36:06 has like, you know, gotten a little bit of like hate just because it's like, it's almost in the Fortnite tier of like, okay, well, everybody plays Fortnite. Well, it's because we haven't moved on from it. We haven't had the time to appreciate how much we love and appreciate it because we've been stuck in it for 10 years. Yeah. We give love to Grand The Dollar 3 for changing the globe.
Starting point is 01:36:23 But Vice City and San Andreas, we love because we've had time away from them. But I'm glad that people are still putting it this high in list. Of course, and it deserves to be. That game, when it dropped in 2013, that shit was crazy. Yeah. That was a crazy video game. No portal on this list? Can you?
Starting point is 01:36:38 Hey, we're not finished yet. Can you believe that the Grand Theft Auto 3 special edition was a hat and a money bag lockbox? I don't remember that. What a ridiculous one. You couldn't come up with anything better than a dumb hat? Come on now. And number two, we have Tetris. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:36:54 What the fuck is number one? At number one. Stop. Stop. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. We have. Okay, I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Zelda, Breath of the Walk. Wait. Wait, wait, what are we missing? Oh, shit. I feel like a lot of things just got left off. Okay, so Breath of the Wild is number one. Ocarina of Time is not on this list. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Mario 64 is not on this list. Crazy. Which is like, no portal. No portal is on this list. Crazy. I guess I gave the portal to Half-Life. No Bioshock is nuts. Man, we took a hard left turn.
Starting point is 01:37:26 I like it, but I don't like it. I don't know about the number one. Again, when we look back at their blurb, their blurb was, you don't know about number one, Mike. What do you mean you don't know about number one? I mean, I like number one. I don't know if that's number one, bless. It's number one.
Starting point is 01:37:39 I don't know if it's number one. Breath of the Wild? I think we took a hard turn on that one. It's not even the best Zelda game. know, so. I agree as well, man. So when I think back to the blur, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Again, they did go out of their way to say, like, aging well. Like, what games age well? Gold and I doesn't age well. Okay. But not on the list. Mario 64 doesn't eat. I can see them using that argument. We put two Super Metroid's on the list.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Yeah, but I give them respect, but like Super Metroid and Metroid Prime both age. There's not many games that got two. And like that got two. I mean, you're right. If we're talking about aging, like, for the 2D Mario games, I think it's crazy to not have three on there, you know? But I think, okay, what are the games that we got two in one franchise? Because Metroid, we did, but I can see the argument of, like,
Starting point is 01:38:29 Metroid Prime versus Super Metroid. I think it was just Metroid. Was it just Metroid that we got two different ones? Oh, Zelda got two, yeah, Metro and that's, like, and that's two D Zelda versus 3D Zelda. And we thought we'd get two, so, like, I'm not mad at that. I think that's the argument. But, like, that's the case.
Starting point is 01:38:42 There's Mario Odyssey. so maybe they just don't fuck with it, right? Like maybe they're just like, hey, Mario, Mario, we don't put any Cotor. It's in the old republic. Yeah. It's just, there's so many. But again, that's where you get your mass effect too.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, I agree with that bear. You can start putting comparisons there. We got Halo, right? Yeah, we got Halo one at 11 or something. Yeah, yeah. Okay. We had wow.
Starting point is 01:39:07 We had a mainline Mario chat. Man, this is a tough one. Did they earn? The blessing, Adioje Jr., two thumbs up. I'm going to give it one thumbs up. They got a thumbs up. They got a thumbs up, right? I think this list is the shit.
Starting point is 01:39:25 I think this is a fantastic list overall. When you look at the overall scope of things, I think all the picks were great. I think, you know, they had the confidence to put like a couple sports games on here, but they picked the right ones in my opinion. They're making a statement there. Hey, were you there from Matt in 2004? were you there for NBA 2K11?
Starting point is 01:39:44 Like these were moments, these are games that people hold near and dear and have great memories with. You get into like the nerdy picks, you get into the iconic picks, they kept the games like Fortnite to the top. They kept it on the list, but they kept them down to like the 40 to 50 range. Right, because they deserve to be there, but they know what people want. I think
Starting point is 01:40:00 this is an overall good list. Great, great list even. I'm going to give this list a thumbs up. This is a great list. Not a perfect list. Not a perfect list. But like, you know what? But there never is. When you look for if you want to show your friends a list and have some fun like we just did or you just want to say hey here's a good list to a great list they did it they did this one out i definitely have some big disagreements okay like yeah like yeah i can't wait to get a lot of shit about mario sixty four on content made mainly to get a rise out of blessing but to ignore the impact of that game when so much of this list is about the impact of video games like that being the first major triple a console game to figure out 3d gaming yeah Mario Kart 64 on this list and no Mario 64 is fucking assenide.
Starting point is 01:40:45 That's crazy. Let's be honest. Okay, but Mario 64 had to be on the list. No, Akirina is crazy. No Akrona is yeah insane. I think that's the issue. You get into these conversations when you're in the room of like how many is too many of this game from this franchise.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Right? Like, and I agree with you. There's some that deserve to have three or four on the list because they're that good, right? But I think you do get in the real conversations of the room of like, we've already put them on two times, four times. three times you gotta cut them off now. I think that's how that goes. I got Final Fantasy 7 on here. Which is again deserved it but like again I get into the weird thing of was this like an aging
Starting point is 01:41:21 thing because like Final Fantasy 7 I'll put in the same realm as a Mario's before in terms of you know how it's aged over time. I guess it's an RPG so like maybe not as mechanical so maybe that's where you would go with it where you got to jump around and do all that shit in Mario in Final Fantasy you're just walking around but still I'll say it is aged. Oh yeah. All right so let's go around the room. Uh-huh. The three of us here. And of course the chat, we want to hear from you. Please super chat so we definitely can get you involved if you're able to. Give us the ones that either should be higher on the list or should not be on the list.
Starting point is 01:41:52 What are your one or two that is like, yo, this was a mistake? Or, hey, this should be higher as a mistake. Like better and better placement. I mean, Elder Ring is the immediate thing that comes to mind. Yeah. I think Eldering put it. In the top 20 at least. Maybe top 15.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Right? I think if we're talking about that as the representation of both from and how much from is impacted action games, action RPGs, if you're taking that as an encapsulation app, but then also how quality it is as a video game in 2022, 2003, whatever Eldon Ring came out, 2022. If you're looking at it as that, if you're looking for the cultural impact, like, Eldon Ring checks every single one of those boxes. And the fact that you have Balders Gate 3 so high, like, I'll put Eldon Ring in the same exact conversation as Waltersgate 3. I think both of those should be top 20 when you're talking about like the modern juggernauts the modern greatest games of all time. I think Ballard's Gate 3 and Eldon Ring
Starting point is 01:42:49 should probably both be in the top 25 at least. I'll stand on business and I'll say it. Stand on business, Mike. Fortnite should be higher on the list. Fortnite should be in the top 20 conversation for the cultural impact where we are today. I think it's hard sometimes to see it in present moment of you might have your bias, you hate Fortnite,
Starting point is 01:43:07 you think it's for kids, you might love Fortnite, but I do think like Fortnite is changing fundamentally video games in the video game industry right now and we are living it up and it's going to change it for the next five to ten years and beyond. I'm not mad at it. I think 20 years from now
Starting point is 01:43:24 we're going to look at it and be like that game is going to go down as one of the greatest if not the greatest game of all time for what it has done. You might not like the battle royale. You might like what it's doing. But like when you think of Fortnite right now in 2025 to start off the year,
Starting point is 01:43:38 collaborations with different IPs, not being afraid to bring them in and being able to bring them in, right? Now having a battle royale that has stood the test of time and it's still playable and it's still playable it is as a video game, right? All these are from modes. Now having the ability to create with inside of their world and having this
Starting point is 01:43:54 Fortnite user-created content is crazy to think about, right? Them adding a Rocket League, racing a guitar hero type stuff. Like, this game right now is changing the world. I think it's going to be up there. And I think it's be up there. I think maybe some of the negative impact that it has on the industry might be the thing that
Starting point is 01:44:14 45 feels right. Okay. Because I can't deny how big it is, but also how much of a cancer it is for all these other companies who are constantly trying to chase that and then, well, that's the issue. And then yeah, that's the conversation we have. Industry because of it is people now, the big money grubbing CEOs are saying make this, make this. When they shouldn't be, they should be encouraging people and fostering these development teams to make something great that they want to create, right? But we're chasing dollars. And like, are we really holding that against Fortnite because they're changing other people's minds? I don't think the one thing I'll hold against Fortnite.
Starting point is 01:44:50 And I'm not even holding it against it. I think it is something to acknowledge is that it is the king of seeing a mechanic or seeing something else that like another smaller game is doing and being like, oh, we're going to take that. We're going to take that for ourselves. We're going to take that, right? I made this. And like, honestly, it does that to games big and small in ways where I'm like, all right, sure. you can take whatever thing from Apex.
Starting point is 01:45:11 You can take the, you know, what, the res system from a realm royal or do whatever, right? But like, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:45:18 it is competition. I think it only gets scummy when it is like, oh, we're going to make an Amongus mode and not even like, talk to the Amongus people or do any of that. I think it has had its missteps in that regard.
Starting point is 01:45:28 But overall, when you're talking about impact, I still do think that the Fortnite impact supersedes all of that, right? Like, decades from now, we're still going to be talking about
Starting point is 01:45:37 Fortnite in the way that, in the way that it changed the industry and the things that it's done, right? Battle passes, what you talk about or like the malleability of it, right? Like bringing Lego into it. We might still be talking about Fortnite as a present thing decades from now. Yeah. Right? It's going to be fucking ESPN and Disney and all this shit.
Starting point is 01:45:56 The audience has brought up crossplay. Crossing the hand of Sony into crossplay as well as a big deal. Yeah, that's huge. Pushing these companies to work together. I just, if I'm picking one, that's my one. I can see that. I think we do have to have to. a real honest conversation about that one
Starting point is 01:46:11 because that is no doubt crazy in my mind. Yeah, we talked about Zadokarina, right? Like that should be on the list. I would kick off. Like, that's the thing is, I think you don't want to go more than two. That's the problem with Breath of Wild
Starting point is 01:46:24 Ocarina link to the past. All I think being legitimate contenders in that conversation is that like then you get into three of three games of the same franchise and you got to pick two. Not that you got to pick two, but I think they wanted to pick two. They didn't want to have three of those in there. Barrett, what do you got?
Starting point is 01:46:39 or two, let's talk about it. I would put Red Dead 2 way lower. I think is like one that stands out to me and I would put link to the past much higher. That's really all I got right now. Yeah, as I'm scrolling through though, again, like the top of this list is so strong, right? That 30 to 50 is so strong.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Getting into Sonic the Hedgehog 2 at number 35, man, that's so good. You know what I mean? I can make conversations for League of Legends as well, I think could be higher on this list. Man, it's good. Celeste is a big poll. I like that.
Starting point is 01:47:16 I love that we highlighted Batman Arkansas. Yeah, I mean, the Sims, Starry Valley, good picks, Tony Hawk Grove Skater. Yeah. They have such, they have a lot of right. They got Pokemon on this. They have a lot of goodness on this list.
Starting point is 01:47:28 It all felt right. Pokemon did feel low, but yeah, like it being on the list, I think, is a perfect call. My personal ones. Street Fighter 2, as much as I love fighting games, number 14 seems a little high. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:40 But it should be on the list. The only ones that I would call out on the list that I could see being erased on the list to make new room. These are my personal ones. Would be the two sports games and would be Tony Hawk. You would take Tony Hawk off the list. I could see myself taking off Tony Hawk and one of two of the sports games.
Starting point is 01:47:56 That's where I would be. That's great. If I was looking at this, I'd be like, those would be the three. I would take Tony Hawk off the list to put Tony Hawk Proceder 2 on the list. If we're rolling stone and we're having this conversation right now and Mike is like, we don't need Tony Hawk on the list. That's where I tackle Mike. Oh God.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Stella. Stella, come on in here. Why the fuck are we not playing Marvel rivals yet? What the fuck? We got to talk about this. You've been begging. You've been begging. You've been asking.
Starting point is 01:48:21 It's a top. The audience. Are you done with them talking? Can we go play now? I've been waiting. The audience was to hear me and Mike talk about lists. No, they don't. They love this.
Starting point is 01:48:29 You know? We and Mike don't get a hang out of enough. Chat, lists or Marvel rivals? Lists or Cloak and Degger's butt. Here's a thing, Stella. We talked about the top 50 games of all time. Stella, you know what's not on this list of top 50 games? Marvel rivals.
Starting point is 01:48:43 think about that okay and it's new that's what okay also are we really going with rolling stones list we have a great list is it actually good list you make a list and we'll react to it on the show and we'll see if it's better than rolling stones list okay i'm going to bet for rolling stone i like and you're not going to be on it so it's already great wow wow right changes from all rivals me and still are boxing yeah we're boxing and i'm going to knock you the fuck out I'm damn I feel like this is i feel like Mike Tyson and uh the ball brother right now where I'm like what is he doing in there it's all fun in game so she's starts bullying you, huh?
Starting point is 01:49:15 Everybody celebrates her when she bullies me. She starts bullying you guys. Oh, it's a big deal. Until I can stop picking you up like a baby, you got to listen to me. Damn, she got to get to the gym with her. You got to get in the gym? That's true.
Starting point is 01:49:29 I got to get to the gym. All right. Let's wrap this up. Sell is right. Sell is rolls from me left to where I'm like, all right, cool. We're playing more. He's like,
Starting point is 01:49:35 we're wrapping this shit on right now. Any final thoughts on this list? This is a great list. This made us laugh. This made us think. This made us question. some, but overall, you gave us 50 great games and you did a good job, Rolling Stones. You really, whoever was in that room, you did a great job on this one.
Starting point is 01:49:53 There's some that didn't make the list that probably should have made the list. But you know what, all in all, this is 50 good to great games. Needed more Mario. Needed StarCraft. More Mario. Let me read off some of the last super chats we got here. CJ Splits and says Mass Effect question mark, Pokemon, red and blue question mark.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Mass fact was in. Yeah, MassFEC 2 is there. But I think they wanted their specific entries. I get it. Roberto writes in it says, third person action games like DMC 3 slash 5 or even Milliger Rising not being on here is a crime. Listen, I love Meliger Rising as much as to the next guy.
Starting point is 01:50:27 It's not on here. It's not going to be on here. That guy when he did the thing and he started talking through his butt? Like, no. And Meliger Rising started talking through his butt. Oh, I'm thinking of Revengeance. No, that's the game. Yeah, when the president was doing that and he did.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Oh, yeah. Oh, like he looked through it. Yeah, uh-huh. I picture, like his butt was the mouth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rye guys says no portal is insane. A cake is a lie took over the world, and Gladys song made a cameo and rock band, for God's sake.
Starting point is 01:50:56 I agree with that. There should have been portal on the list. Poopie Pants writes in and it says, Breath of the Wild started Switch era, which probably plays a part. Yang Fam says, is there a top worst release game tier list? That would take a lot of studying that nobody's ever done.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Okay. Like diving into the worst games ever, on Steve. Oh, it's tough. That's a tough one. There's a lot. There's a lot. You'd lose your sanity. I'll bring in one more. Snuggs writes in and says unrelated, we need to see Stella and Bless play the mind. Stella would
Starting point is 01:51:26 beat the shit out of me. If we played the mind by round two, like Stella's fucking like just pounding me with you. You'd be in the headlock. I'll be in a headlock for sure. So yeah, let's make that happen. Mike. No Assassin's Creed games. Good.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Good. Yeah, no sassassas, that's a little surprising, I guess. Not one Assassin's Creek game? There's so much fun. Leave some comments down below. What were the games that were missed? That's what we really want to know. Yeah, what were the games that are missing on this list?
Starting point is 01:51:56 Let us know in the comments below. Until next time, did I ever throw to add? No, I did. Thank you. Okay. I've been blessing. You did great. That's been Mike.
Starting point is 01:52:05 That's been Bairitt. Until next time, it's been our pleasure to serve you. See ya.

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