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Episode Date: June 13, 2017

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Slash kind of funny. What's up, guys? Welcome to the E3, 2017. Sony press conference analysis. I'm Tim Getty's joined by one of the coolest suits in video games, Greg Miller. Hi. And Candy Andy himself. Andy Cortez. I'm here. So guys, that was it. Sony. Yeah. The big one for us. Yeah. Every year. Yeah, of course. Initial thoughts overall. It's fallen into the trap of E3 2017 so far. Solid conference. I mean, with Shadow Colossus, I mean, Monster Hunter, these are, you know,

Big Shadow Claus is bigger than Monster. But it's, okay, cool. Those are the games we expected to see. Awesome. And it sucks that none of them are coming this year. Shadow the Colossus is the one thing that can even make this slightly qualify for your dreams material. Yeah, I agree.

Excellent conference, but nothing special. Yeah. I think everybody's been doing solid conferences. I think this was the best conference so far. Like, I agree. I think far and above everybody else, to be honest with you. And I think it, I really do think it was a shout of the Kloss's moment for me. That was like, this came out of left field.

Nobody saw this coming. And it gave me what I wanted to see, which is Spider-Man gameplay. Sure. And they gave it to us now that boss, that final sequence was all quick time events. Didn't love that. Yeah. But that they, I saw what I wanted to see. So there were some people in chat saying like, what a boring conference. Like, you're fucking crazy. This conference was really good in my opinion. Yeah, I also agree that I think this is far in a way the best conference that we've seen so far. I say that because I thought that Bethes was really impressive from a presentation standpoint,

but we expected a lot of things there. Sure. We expected a lot of things here, but they all looked great. And there was a couple surprises. And the presentation was just as tight. There was no orchestra, but I liked that they won up in a different way, where all the games had their own unique kind of visual thing going on for them, whether it was the music playing or the waterfall or the snow effects for Horizon.

or the second screen for Spider-Man or whatever. Like, I really enjoyed that, and they kept it tight. Usually Sony's conferences, if I remember correctly, a little longer than this. Yeah, 90 minutes happens quite a bit. Yeah, so this was kind of just like, let's get in, let's keep punching. I like the Sean was there. Once again, kind of being the figurehead. Seems like three times, yeah, he popped up.

Yeah, and, you know, I mean, like looking at this list of games, I want to play them. See, I think that's my thing about it is I don't think they won far and away. I want to stew a bit. We have a lot of E3 left and obviously Nintendo's presentation tomorrow. I feel like it was the same thing, though, as what we talked about with... Not Ubisoft yesterday? No, Ubisoft was today, right? And you gave them a 10 out of 10.

For presentation. Right. And I think that this is possibly another one where it was another one of like, here we go, full tilt, da-da-da-da-da. But I mean, I don't think they far and away won it. I mean, you know what I mean? Because I think it's the same thing where there's, they missed the, they didn't stick the landing again. Like we talked about some time.

Where was the, here's the game. Here's the release date. Here's the fucking news you need to know. that like we're so stoked to tell you. Everything's 2018, which isn't bad again. Yeah, like we talked about it, leaves holiday open for third parties. Let's everybody else do their thing.

I, you know, again, they talked about it beforehand with Matterfall coming in August. Everybody's golf's coming in there somewhere, super hot VR in 2017. There's stuff I care about this coming. It was just one of those that I don't think far and away they got it. I don't think they pulled so far ahead of the pack. I just think that it didn't take much to be far and away ahead.

Like I don't think this was a perfect, oh my God, year of Dreams press conference. Oh, yeah, I agree with that. I do think that when you look at the things as a whole, without putting numbers on them, I think that it's somewhere in the middle where even the Bethesda would lie of. Like, that was a good ass conference. Yeah. It was good conference. I mean, it's a good conference.

I mean, it's a good conference. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. What was the first showing? First thing was uncharted. First thing was uncharted DLC. I mean, we knew about that, right?

We didn't know about it. We didn't know about Horizon, which is pretty cool. Yeah. But we knew about it. I guess I'm speaking just from my perspective. I wanted to see more about Detroit. And that's what I got. I want to see more Spider-Man.

That's what I got. Days Gone impressed me, which I've been kind of down on Days Gone. Yeah. My thing about it is I want to try to separate my own personal feelings versus everything. This is the conference that had the most games I was interested in. This is the one that from start to finish. I was like, okay, cool. Even to VR, I was like, yeah, what is coming to VR?

You know what I mean? I want to know that. And they delivered on that. Exactly. But I mean, like, I don't think that you, I still want to, there's still something to be said for Xbox saying we have 42 games to show here and do this. Yeah. Xbox, of course, marred by the fact that, okay, the Scorpio costs too much for this, that and the other.

But PlayStation marred by the fact of still, Still no heavy, or heavy rain, Detroit date. No, you know, that was a big bummer. There was a lot of misses and there was a lot of things that weren't here that people would want. I was, I'm shocked that death stranding wasn't in some way here. Yeah, they said that, but then Kijima kept bumming around, showing up at different places. That's what I'm saying. It's just like I did expect that.

We didn't see that. Obviously, no last of us, which I don't think is that big of a surprise, but still would have been fun to see. There wasn't any crazy revival of a franchise, which Sony's kind of been known to do in the last couple years, unless you count Shadow of the Colossus, which I kind of do. Yeah, I do too. Let's talk about Shadow for just a second. I'm very, very, very excited about it. My God.

They released the remastered version of Eco and Shadow last generation. And I skipped out on it because I was like, I don't need to replay. I played Shadow Cossus, I think, a little bit later. It came on 2005. I don't think I got to it until like 2008. So I was probably the same. I don't need to jump back into this now. But now, or in two years?

Yeah, I'm so about that. Remassive from the ground up. And I fucking make the controls good. I'm hoping. I'm hoping that this is them learning from Last Guardian and understanding that that game was a game stuck in a different era. And I hope that now they're like, all right, we know that Shadow was our best game.

Now we're going to modernize it. And all the Colossus that didn't make the final cut that we've heard about for years, I hope that they get them in here and really make this to the definitive Shadow Colossus experience. So that hopefully guys like you that know how important this game is, but it never really clicked with because of things like the OK controls. Maybe it can resonate with you a bit more.

100%. Yeah. But I think it's another, this is one of, you talk about expectations running a while, right? And that always setting up maybe unfair or unrealistic ones. But then Sony's delivered so many times with it, right?

No bloodborne. No update on Final Fantasy 7. No sucker punch. Like, yeah, no sucker punch. Sucker punch, I'm really surprised at.

I thought this would be the time of to start, you know, they've set up all these dominoes that they started to tip over with the first party. Right? When you talk about, well, uncharted four, then begets a, you know,

horizon. Now we have the next uncharted, but there's all this other stuff coming or exclusives, I should say, I guess. And so like you want to start looking and padding it. Right. With death strandings way out there now, we don't need to worry about it. You'd think you'd have something from sucker punch to say this is what's coming next to. It's interesting. Yeah. It's a bummer when you look at it that way because it's unfair. I mean, I mean, there's also, but then again, there is PSX. And I, I don't like using that as an excuse because E3 is E3 and let's kick ass. And yeah, I do think that they kicked ass. It's just, you know, they set such a high bar for themselves. It was a solid conference, but it's the same thing we're talking about last night,

right? When you do year after year out of the park, out of the park, out of the park, eventually you have to get to that point where it's like, well, that wasn't as good as. You have to catch up to the times. You have to catch up to those games that are like, they gave a peek, a sneak peek at last year, you know, and God, I just want Spider-Man now. Yeah. Well, I mean, that was my thing. When they kept it to the end and they done other stuff, I was like, fuck. Are they going to are we going to get a fucking day? Are they going to say Spider-Man this fall? Yeah. Yeah. Man. I mean, Okay, well, Spider-Man. I personally think that looks fantastic.

That game speaks to me so much. It's uncharted, mixed with Spider-Man. I'm all about that. And some Arkham. There's a lot of QuickTime events. Even in the battle system, it looks like a lot of it's telling you, all right, do this and then hit this button. Like, whatever's in the bottom right of the screen,

those are the combinations you're just supposed to hit to make the cool thing happen. And I'm sure that the flying around the city is going to be a bit more open than all of that. Yeah. I appreciate the set piece, like cinematic-esque. They were showing you a chunk of the game. Yeah. That Uncharted's so good at making you feel like, like, oh my God, oh my God, like when like the cars are chasing you or whatever.

Yeah. You feel like you're part of the action. You do feel like you're controlling it, even though it is just kind of a movie that you're lightly interacting with. I expect that there'll be more to the game when it comes to the actual combat and the actual traversal of New York. Yeah, I do expect a lot of like open world events that happen. Like in Grantha Thata when you're running down and some lady's like, help, someone stole my bat. Like I do expect a lot of open world things like that to happen to where you're not stuck to this little like storyline. You're just kind of fucking around in New York City and flying around and hanging out with Carlton Fisk or what's the name?

Wilson Fiske. Yeah. Also, hey, during that live show we were talking about where they did everyone's golf, NAC2 was confirmed for September 5th. September 5th. So there are games coming. Don't worry. Yeah. This year.

When is Nino Cooney 2? Ni Noc 2. Nino Cooney is November 7th. I forget. Yeah, but that sounds right. Second. I can check it out for you. Undertale Vita.

Not on the show again, but yeah. Gt Sport. Did it get any actual date or anything? Did it get a date? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I was during that thing.

I'm very excited about where they're taking Spider-Man. Spider-Man is my favorite superhero ever. And I feel like I've enjoyed so many different iterations. November 10th for you. In comics or in movies or in TV shows. Yeah. And in games as well. But one of my least favorite Spider-Man is the kind of like, I'm working with Shield and I'm working.

Like I have comms telling me what to do and all that stuff. So in the beginning, I was a little concerned about it. But then once it was clear, he was working with the police. I'm like, all right, cool. I like this is the smaller scale Spider-Man I like. And that rumor of Miles or whatever that excites me a lot. Yeah. Well, yeah, and being there at the end.

But yeah, and I like that we're getting into kind of the lesser-known rogues gallery of Spider-Man. And if I remember correctly, that's Mr. Negative. Okay. The dude that, yeah, I don't know him. That is real obscure. Like, I've read a lot of Spider-Man comics and yeah. He hasn't been featured in too many. He's been in the more recent run that Dan Slots doing.

But I'm totally sold in that game. Apparently they said this fall for GT Sport, which if you're a Greg Miller, Bet, man means it's not, it's going to slip the fuck out of there. Not going to happen at all. People point out something we talked about earlier that missed here again. No dreams. No, medium molecule is fucked. What is going on?

And with so much focus on VR. Confirm Mr. Negative says juggler. Mr. Negative. For VR to not have, that VR segment to not have dreams does say a lot. I'm shocked that was that much focus on VR. Yeah. I am impressed that they are actually putting that much into real games

and not just experiences. We'll see how long that keeps it going. But good on them. Like they really focused on it alongside these giant games. And Days gone, I thought, looked so awesome. Days gone looks so awesome. Days gone, like I, you know, I was one of the people who first off, love Sony Bend, but after that demo last year, when we're talking on the games cast predictions, right? I was like that felt like a flat demo. It totally didn't hit what they needed to hit. It just looked like zombies and nobody wants that again. This demo was like, hey, it's the last of us. Hey, it's tactical. It's planning. It's strategic. Set the bear trap, then sneak or pass them. Then let the zombie or the, what do they call them? Tweakers come in and get everybody else. Like I was like, yeah, fuck yeah. I thought he was going to push the log onto them. Like, yeah. There was a, there was a, a couple of clips from Horizon where some people were doing that, but it was just a distraction,

I guess. Yeah. He was hiding. I thought they did a much better job this year of showing the crazy large amounts of zombies on screen at once. Yeah, 100% where like using them as a weapon or using them to do things or also just the fear of sneaking around. When you came in and they were all feeding, that was awesome. Like that is a lot more intimidating that.

Yeah. This thing just being overrun. Yeah. And it feeling super. Pumpkin pie addict in the chat says, Media Molec just tweeted quote, good luck to all and hashtag E3 this week. No ether for us. as we were busy tapping away,

getting ready to share more about Dreams PS4 later this year. All right, man. Here's how I know that it was my favorite conference so far. And I am by no means a Sony fan boy, so you can F off with that stuff. You know what I'm saying, boys? Are you not? Is that a joke? I don't know.

No, I'm not, you know. I have everything. I sold my Xbox because it's, I knew I was going to get an S because it's smaller and I fucking hate the power brick on the original. And anyway, anyway, here's how it was my, Fared Conference. When Shondland walked back out and was like, wow, that was an hour of cool games. Like, holy fuck, that was an hour. It went by

so quickly because I was in, I was enjoying every fucking minute of it. That's how I know it's my favorite conference. Nothing about it felt like it dragged at all. For me. Apology in the chat says, Crash was in the pre-show. Coco is playable. I don't know if that does anything for you. Coco's play. Well, there's a lot of rumors of that.

I wonder to what extent she's playable, but that's cool. It's not the Crash Team Racing that we deserve, but Coco, big fan. You're a big fan of Coco. You're okay with that. Marvel's Capcom Infinite story demo available now. That's cool. Great.

I really thought that was going to take off after that one year. That there'd be so many more. And it's available right now. I thought there'd be a lot more of that shit. There isn't as much of that shit. Yeah, man. And I got to say I'm let down by Capcom. I mean,

I guess Monster Hunter is a huge deal. Monster Hunter World. Also come in Xbox as well early, early 2018. That's a big deal for a lot of people. Yeah, for sure. Monster is a huge franchise. And it's one of those doesn't apply to us necessarily, but people are going to fucking lose their shit.

Totally new art style and going for a more realistic vibe. That's really cool. But I mean, I was looking for this E3 for Sony's conference in particular to show me Devil May Cry 5 or the remake 2. And we didn't get it.

Or I mean, really just anything, like any Ane Mushar or any of the Capcom franchises that have been dormant for a while. Yeah. So I'm disappointed there. Vibaba Hatsa in 08 says in the chat. No indies? They had a ton of Indies previous years

unless you count PSVR games. Thoughts? They did that last year. Last year was that first year, they were like, none of the Indies. There was no Adam. There was no Gio. Indies now are pre-show stuff.

And then, hey, we're doing it at PSX. Here's this big thing. Because PSX speaks to folks like us. I was surprised, it's funny, because I was surprised they did the VR stuff. I made that prediction. Not 100% sure of it. But then R.P.R.K.

JJ in the chat says VR definitely dragged. I agree. Yeah. It was like one of those things of like, man, we were rolling, rolling, rolling. And that's a weird thing of because I would have loved it have been,

I would have been wrong. And they put all the VR games in the pre-show. And then it would have been everybody's golf. It would have been knack to. Like, I feel like those would have been more important announcements to people. I think the only things I did not care about on the VR side were, uh, was that Star Child game. Star Child and Final Fantasy, of course. But when Star Child popped up, I was just like this, I'm just, I don't care.

I just don't like it when we're seeing VR trailers and I don't understand how it's going to work in that. Exactly. Yeah. That's not ever fun. Uh, but going through here, there was a god of war. I got to say, man, I'm, holy shit. I'm very sold on that game.

That's another one where last year peaked my interest, but this year just totally sold me. I loved the lightly comedic aspects, like the other characters that were speaking. I was like, oh, man, I kind of like, goofy dude.

Yeah, I like this vibe. It's a lot fresher than we're used to with God of War. It's just a lot of screaming. And the combat looked like it kept the things that I do enjoy from the original God of War. And also it looked fucking rad. Yeah,

I'm glad they brought in some lighthearted. to it. I'm looking forward to like possibly as you're adventuring through all these big zones, finding like little settlement areas where there's a lot of friendly NPCs that kind of like, hey, you're Cratos, aren't you? Like that sort of shit. Like that's the stuff I love

in video games. Like, again, bringing it back to fucking Breath of the Wild, when you're just running around everywhere and you finally get to like your first like Kokiri village or whatever or Hattena or whatever it was called. I just love seeing like little safe havens in video games. And I think we're going to get a lot of that too. They hinted at it

the Goda Wharthen where he picks up that vase or whatever the hell you want to call it and it had his his history and stuff it's like I like that he's just kind of just this old dude yeah that like has a legacy and everybody's heard of his knows what's up yeah exactly now he's a fucking kid and he has to play dad and I like who's the star quarterback bring to this experience

Kratos huh good to see you some shit Detroit looked super cool Detroit was amazing that demo really connected with me and again it was like building a building I'm like oh just put a fucking date and say like fucking November this year That might be my biggest letdown. Besides the things that aren't here, that's totally unfair to judge a conference on. But this not having a release date is a real killer to the momentum of what we needed from this conference, not even just wanted or expect it.

Because, yeah, I mean, great. 2018 is going to be awesome, but Detroit's not even labeled as 2018. So who knows? Yeah, it's a weird year for E3. I think we're still going to be like, there's so many. fucking games in 2018 that I'm really worried about like how am I going to manage my time. Oh don't worry. Lots are

going to get delayed. Lots and lots of these games are going to get delayed. Don't worry about that. 2018 won't be as bad as it looks right now. Trust me on that one. You know what I mean? Horizon DLCs this year. That's cool. Uncharted obviously is this year. There is, there are things coming this year. Shadow the Colossus. I can easily see

getting pushed out of 18 just based on history alone. I mean, it is Blue Point developing. I mean, I do worry about how far out it's been. That's true. With Blue Point. Sure. It has a good history, right? Yeah.

I don't know. I'm not sure about their release date schedule. In terms of them doing these kind of games, yeah. Yeah. Good history. So that's interesting. I'm very excited about that. The fact that Detroit doesn't, didn't even get to say 2018 should tell you a lot as well.

Yeah. Because that is a David Cage, Quantum Dream game. Talented people, but their games take forever. And that's where we're still looking down the barrel of the gun there. Hey, son. Just like you were at the end with when that guy held the gun up to the cops. Bless you. Bless you, Kevin.

Or Greg, sorry. I said Kevin. I'm just thinking of you, Kevin, all of the time. All of the time. I'm hearing rumors that these are not rumors. They are confirmed. PSX, 2017 will be held in Anaheim, California on December 9th through 10th. Okay.

Lock it in. Lock it in. Wow, they said that early. Well, I thought it was weird today when Keely was tweeting out about T's tick. Are we going to be there? We will not confirm or comments on rumors at this point. Bless you, Greg. Well, that was fun, boys.

That's the thing, man. The C3, it's been... Very okay. It's been very, very just good. Video games are cool, man. They are cool. I've been loving doing this, but I kind of miss the... To be fair, we're spoiled.

Oh, yeah. The last couple years, compare those to the last decade of conferences we've got. They've been so special. So now when we get this, it's just kind of like, all right, cool. Cool. I never would have thought... I never would have thought that we get to... to a point that multiple conferences, both Bethesda and Sony, can nail presentation of a conference

so well. And then just, you know, not bringing the heat. Just bring some like lukewarm. I think it's so crazy that like, that we saw this conference, well, I really like this conference, but the fact that this conference just happened and we're kind of like, this E3 is kind of whatever. Like, it shows you like how strong last year was, I guess. Yeah. It also shows how, I think in a way, I'm not going to be one of these guys who comes and tells the E3 doesn't matter anymore. E3 matters, clearly. But we have gotten to the point that E3 and its potency is diluted in the way that there are so many different events. There are so many, like I was talking about how we're able to survive is kind of funny, right? But they're still IGN. There's so many little things, little communities that

destiny wants to make their own splash and do their own thing. Sony has the stuff they've released before, talked about before they're putting all these things out on the blog or wherever they're going to put them out. He just gives this point where it spreads so thin between so many shows that we can't expect it to be like it used to be, where you come to E3 and this is your one time every year that everyone's going to announce everything. It's going to be awesome. Yeah. But I mean, it's so funny because I think that we're just spoiled with how we even

receive information because even back then it wasn't that epic. There was a lot more fillers and there was a lot more bullshit no one cared about. A lot of graphs and charts and things. So it's like even though it was the one place that people announced stuff, sure. It was cumbersome and weird and awkward. I was saying last night on some YouTube comments that when I go to a movie and I have to sit through all the trailers, I'm excited about that.

And when I see trailers for things that I either haven't heard of or whatever, there's that moment afterwards. You kind of look around to your friends. You're like, what's the vibe? Do we like that? Do we not like that? And there's kind of that, like, that communal opinion that happens, right? And I feel like E3 conferences are that for video games where I would never go out of my way to look at a destiny trailer or a call of duty trailer or whatever. But when they presented to us this way, where it's just an hour of back-to-back trailers and stuff.

Sure. And just like, okay. As a community of gamers, we're watching all this stuff and getting an idea of like, all right, cool, where this thing that I'm not interested in, could I potentially be interested in it? And I just like seeing what stage does it show up on? And there's still a lot there. And I don't think E3 is anywhere near dead. No, and I'm not saying it's dead. I'm just saying it is now competing against a million different things.

Well, people are saying that forever. And then one year it literally was dead. My thing is it can compete against as many things as it needs to. There's no other event in video games that are at this. focused and this this much presentation like no one there's just nothing that does that sure and like you can see like we did that final fantasy 15 event um last year and like there are specific games doing things like that that are one-offs but there's no event that is just about announcing uh an entire lineup and getting creating hype within the community of people that really care and i hope

it never dies yep and igon is confirming miles more house as well what are they confirming that he's in the game they're saying that the end it was him Because we talked over it and we missed it because they ended it awkwardly. There we go. There's the image of them right there. All right. Any closing words on anything, Boris? Let's see what happens tomorrow.

I'm excited to play Destiny 2 with Andy. Oh my God. Nobody plays those kind of games here. So I've had us. I've struggled to find that group. So I'm happy you're in it. And you know what the good news is if you and I are in, we can get big cab dog in. Big Kev dog loves a good multiplayer experience.

We can do it. What days come out? The sixth, right? It's a September 6th. Sure. We can, we can fuck off. that day. We just bring in 3 PS3, set them all up here. We're playing PS4. Set them all up here.

We all play together. Awesome. So down. That sounds good. I like that. I like you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for Sony's conference. We will be back tomorrow for Nintendo's spotlight presentation. I don't know what the hell they're calling it these days. They're not direct, not direct at 830 a.m. is our pre-show. 830 a.m. is our pre-show for Nintendo. We will be here. We hope to see you there. Thanks for joining us. This has been fun. Until next time, I love you.