Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Square Enix E3 2019 Review - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: June 11, 2019

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What's up and welcome to Kind of Funnies post show analysis of Square Enix's E3 2019 live press conference. I'm Tim Getty's. This is Andy Cortez. That is Greg Miller. We are Kind of Funny Games. If you're unfamiliar with us, you can go to YouTube.com slash Kind of Funny Games. You can stay right here on Twitch. com slash Kind of Funny Games.

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There's also another show we do Kind of Funny Gamescast. We talk weekly about the games that we've been playing, big topics in the industry, things of that nature. This show right now is a perfect example of the type of conversations that we would have. We're going to get right into it. We are reviewing Squares press conference. The first real press conference in a very long time. Do you remember when the last one was? I mean, the last one was 2015, I want to say, of them on, sorry, 2016 of them on stage.

Huh. Okay. Yeah. And you're not doing like the direct model? Yeah. We got the direct model last year. And that was very, very bad. I would say, I want to start this one off.

I think this is easily the best conference. Granted, going into it, I knew it would be for me, having Von Fessy, remake and Avengers. Both I was impressed by what I saw. Final Fantasy 8 remastered. Never, ever expected we'd see that. So that was a very cool surprise. A ton of other remaster games in there that definitely don't speak to me, but people are going to be stoked about them. The romancing saga games come to the West for the first time. Kingdom Hearts 3 DLC, like our first real look at it. All this stuff is great. The follow question? What's up? You're saying it's the best conference. Are you talking about for you or overall?

I think both. I think easily both. I mean, look, at the end of the day, we got the beginning of this, was 15 minutes of real gameplay of a game with the dope trailer with the release date. We ended this with a pretty big blowout of Avengers, which is going to be a huge game. No gameplay. That's definitely a bummer. But through this ton of announcements, a ton of games we didn't know about, there were brand new announcements here, a ton of remasters. I just feel like it kind of had a lot in it.

Definitely had pacing issues. Definitely many of the trailers went on two to three times as long as they should have. but at the end of the day it's like we were talking about UB earlier and it's like they had a watchdogs demo that like was like oh cool at least you had this I feel like this conference in terms of

production value in terms of what they showed how they showed this stuff and gameplay to back it up and announcements and release dates they kind of came with the heat in a way that I don't think any of the other conferences did Andy I disagree I just thought a lot of the games just don't speak to me I thought the middle was way too long

there was way too much filler I feel for games that obviously don't speak to me, but also way too just, they were way too long. A few of the videos had to have been, I don't know, it felt like four or five minutes or something like that. I agree with you, Tim. They started off Sean and they ended strong.

But aside from that, I just don't really, I don't care much about JRP's to begin with. So this, I kind of knew this wasn't going to rank very high for me. Avengers, super excited about it. It looks great. I love that they, I think they did the right thing to sort of showcase the voice actors because that I think they recognize how

much gamers care about who are voicing these characters that they love so I think that was a good idea but we got to the games as a service part towards the end that kind of like there's a lot of questions we'll see yeah yeah I disagree as well Tim I don't think it was a good conference

I think that yes I didn't say it was a good conference I want that clue okay I don't think it was the best overall oh what do you think was better than this I think Bethes was more fun of it yeah exactly I think this started strong and ended strong and I thought it got stuck in the mud like I was I mean great and again we talk all the time about hey our personal biases versus like what we're talking about obviously the majority of the games in the middle I don't care about I'm just not

that kind of gamer but even beyond that I thought just the pay we were stuck in them forever I felt for and that's that's what I was seeing people who I know care about these kind of games talking about online as well I just I mean I felt like that whole middle section yeah I mean life is strange already out you know octopath okay it's on PC we already know that the dragon quest builders thing going on forever. All these different things coming out. We were just there forever and ever and ever. And it was to the point that knowing that Avengers is coming, you saw the chat and I think public sentiment on Twitter turned into like, what the fuck? Like, why are they? They're milking this for everything

they're worth. And I think that shines through. And they were just putting a much stuff in there. Again, you have to show what you have. I understand you have a bunch of wares. But I think they just took too long on all these different things in terms of where we were going. This is like, for sure, one that in the I was just like, oh my God, like I'm ready to leave. Yeah. Well, I think that's also. the fact that it is 724 when we've been here in the heat all day. I think in terms of pacing, in terms of apples to apples, if we were to look at the games that they showed,

like there was a lot more new announcements. Like there was Outwriters here, summer 2020. That's a Western game that we hadn't heard about. So we're getting new IPs here. We're also getting a lot of release dates. And what's Outriders about? Outriders was the people can fly. And what's it about?

I don't know. Outriders was the same thing as Bethesda showing like their new IPs. It's like cool. Death Loop looked cool. Right? Like, I'm super hyped for that, but it's like that we don't know what that game is either. I mean, I feel like we knew more about it coming off of it in terms of these two characters in a loop going time loop coming to kill each other.

There's other things. We had the thing about first person gameplay and paragraph to read off of that. Yeah, I think there was a lot of decisions. It was the fact that they showed out riders. You're like, cool. It's Mad Max. It's supposed to like, I don't know. And then we went to a, hey, now we're to talk to the development team or like a guy came on stage.

And then we went to a package about the development team that people can fly. And I'm still like, you're not saying anything. You're not saying anything. Yeah. Why is a shooting game? I feel like it's all we need to know, right? With seeing that, seeing the style, I feel like, I feel like we know equal amounts about Death Loop and that.

I just think that Death Loop spoke to us more as a style that we like, but also it looked like Bad Max. It looked like Stranger Things. It looked like these, like, I feel like we know what that game's going to end up being. Yeah. And also with the pedigree of those, those guys, like. Yeah, I just thought we had just, we stuck way too long on a lot of games that obviously doesn't help that I don't care about them.

But, you know, I wouldn't have minded a, a huge. huge sort of, you know, sizzle reel of a lot of different games that, you know, Final Fantasy 14 online, I know a lot of people care about that, but God, that video was way too long as well. Just like Dragon Quest Builders was, yeah, I don't know, I feel like

the majority of the American audience, including me sitting here, was just like, get to Avengers. Holy shit, this is taking so long, dude. And that's the problem you have when you have a stacked palette of a stacked lineup of games that are like that, that are JRPGs, that are, you know, Japanese folks. I understand the problem they're in stuff. But I just feel like, yeah, it didn't work for me as a conference overall.

Outside of my own personal biases, where I was just like, this is going on. I guess I'm just saying this is like, again, I don't think it was a good conference because there was so much filler and so many things that just went on too long and pasting-wise and all that. But I just feel like Final Fantasy 14 is a direct equivalent to Elder Scrolls online in Bethesda. And it's like when you start doing the, again, Apple's-and-and-that-wells. And that went on way too long, too. That's my point, though. I just feel like in terms of real things that we got, I think that we got more from

this one. And again, it comes down to me, release dates. And it comes down to seeing gameplay, seeing actual demos. On Bethesda, we didn't. We got, we got Doom. Right. But it's like, Doom, we expected that. And with this, I feel the biggest led down to me is not seeing gameplay for Avengers.

Right. And I like, I do think there was a lot of gameplay in there, though. I do think there are like snippets of stuff that maybe not with EY. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, yeah. But not a HUD, not to see how to actually control. We still know what that game is, though. And that was why it was weird at the end to drop in.

It's a live service and you get to play co-op with your friends and all the heroes are going to be friends. Like, wait, what's, wait, what? Like, how is this? Like, you just showed, you know, Iron Man on the bridge shooting shit and then talking about the Hulk. Am I, you know, are we doing the same thing at the same time? Are we in different places? Like, can we switch off between characters? It's, it's the reveal.

So I guess they want you to come to the booth and play and they want a reason for the IG and live show or whatever. When you go see it and play it for us to talk on the game. cast about it. Yeah. Like I understand, you know, you want to leave us hanging, but I could have definitely gone for a,

here's what we're doing, here's how we're playing it. Yeah. To more from GameSpot pointed out that it was crazy that they were talking about, like, we're going to have updates that are totally free and all this stuff,

but they, they said that before they talked about what the game was. Yeah. It was a really weird presentation. It was weird that they set it up because the story looks awesome. And I'm like,

oh, wow, are we getting a Spider-Man-type game from this? Yeah, when they, and then later, when they drop the online stuff, it's like, huh those things

these don't compute together the cut scene between banner and Tony Stark immediately I thought oh we are getting this grand story

that I really really want to care about and I'm super stoked to be inside of but being but then yeah and then they bring up like you know

four player co-op and we're dropping new heroes and I think we saw Black Panther in the back of a screenshot 22 minutes ago Marvel's Avengers tweets Marvel and Squynex

are excited to unveil Marvel's Avengers There's an epic action adventure game that combines cinematic storytelling with single player and cooperative gameplay. So it sounds like there is a single player component to it. Developed by Crystal Amics in collaboration with IDOS Montreal, Nix's Software and Crystal Northwest. Yeah. It's just weird because everything that they showed makes it seem like Spider-Man. Because having that voice acting cast and the way that they talked about it up until the very end, it's like, oh, and even here, they're saying single player, it's like.

So I guess, yeah, there's a, well, yeah, there's a story. story too. I'm trying to think. Yeah, but I guess the playability comes from, you know, drop in new heroes and how do those dialogue, you know, how do the cutscenes between characters evolve from there? Yeah, right, because they were talking about every new hero and every new region will be free. So you figure there's areas outside of the single player

sections, right? That would be doing it. You're some? Possibly. I just don't know. So it's cinematic storytelling with single player and cooperative gameplay. I'm trying to think it's what, are any of the game? I was, I wonder, oh, like DC Universe Online. Obviously you can play DC Universe Online with other people as you level up. And so I guess it's similar to maybe of like

the division. Now stick with me. Or destiny of in the thing up to level cap, right, of the main story, you can pretty much get through that on your own. Yeah. I put like 90% of of Destiny 2 story online. Exactly. In DC Universe Online, I played 9, I would say pretty much all of it to level cap on my own. But I wonder if

this is saying that is all, there is a single player portion, there's a co-op portion, or if there's a single player story that's single player or if we're talking what we're talking about where it's there is a story you can play by yourself and you get out of the people in yeah i bet we're not i bite the first interview at e3 you'll have more about this or when you go play it i wasn't too uh impressed visually yeah from from what we saw even in in cutscenes i was i'm not trying to be a dick and i know i'm sony pony all that i'm not even saying that i think that's again what you talk about when

you talk about a hey let's get this on everything you know what i mean like hey these work on pc PlayStation xx definitely i think that's that's when i get excited yeah people hate Oh, yeah. People hate exclusives. I understand that. Blah, blah, blah, blah. When, when, do they? Yeah, of course. I mean, yeah.

A vocal minority on the internet hates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like the general sentiment, though. When people, when there was a Spider-Man for PlayStation from Insomniac, I was like, fuck yes. I'm like, that is going to be awesome because they're building for one platform that will look awesome and play awesome, and they don't have to worry about a million different variables.

This is a million different variables on top of. Cool. It's also online cooperative. We're adding new characters. We're adding new areas. Yeah. Hmm. It's interesting because the West Coast, right?

San Francisco. Yeah. And we got the kind of tease in Spider-Man of the West Coast. Yeah. And you wonder then... Now, again, Bill Roseman, when he was on stage, let me dial it back, said, of course, that this is Crystal's interpretation,

their unique interpretation. So obviously, I think that was more to space it from the Avengers movies. Yeah. But I wonder if that also spaces it from the other games. Yeah. Yeah. The taskmaster we see and he looks very different.

He does not look like Spider-Man. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I didn't love the way the character models looked. either. That's not even a visual thing. It's just more of a design choice. They all kind of look like, I don't know,

like they had no necks or something. I agree with you with like the actual art style of it. But the designs, I liked that they were different from MCU because it's going to be very hard for us to be so familiar with Robert Downey Jr. And then here Nathan Drake. That's why I felt with a telltale Guardians game

where like huge fan of Guardians of the galaxies and suddenly these voice actors are different and they're, they kind of look different as well. Like Drax is green or something. some bullshit. And the humor's kind of like the movies, but not really. Yeah, they have like the tapes and everything.

Yeah. Weird. That's why I think it's just, I think, I think, I think what they're talking about here, right, is a great move of what we saw was A day, as they're right here, right? And apparently the death of Captain America. And then five years later, right? Spacing us, I'm sure you're going to play it. And it's going to feel like the, it feels like the Avengers, at least in some respect, right?

Of what we saw of them all flying around doing shit together, fighting on the Golden Game. bridge and then it give you five years and get Kevin Coelho as Ironman with his beard and overgrown stuff and him yelling at Bruce Banner right? Like that's a great way of cool we understand that it's going to be hard to separate Robert DeN Jr. from Iron Man so we're giving you a very different interpretation of it in the same way. That's what the

telltale Guardians game failed to do. Where it was like hey it's our own story. We're clearly jumping off of the back of this being the Guardians franchise and you're like well wait this doesn't compute. If they do that where you get in there's Touchstones to the Avengers and then you're out. Awesome. Yeah.

That's a good way to do it to separate you and give you their own story and have you build off. Well, that's being story-wise, that looks awesome. Yeah, strange experimental energy source for their helic carrier or whatever. It results in a tragedy. The Avengers are outlawed and disbanded. Five years later, the bad dudes show up and they have to reassemble. That's awesome. I mean, I feel like that's like a very cool take, especially to differentiate it,

but still kind of have that same level of gravitas that game had. Yeah. Right? Like, all is lost. Yeah. It's like, oh, but this team's been together for a long time. The five-year time jumps, like the scene of Bruce and Tony going back and forth. This could be really cool, like them talking about Cap being dead.

Yeah, do the Avengers pose a danger to society. And before, when we were doing the pre-show, I was talking about how, like, I'm not a games as a service guy. And it's like, I would much prefer this to just be, hey, it's a narrative-driven Spider-Man-type game, right? But this could be the thing that gets me into them, not gets me into them, but at least, like, gets me playing one and, like, committing to it, where if it is this ongoing, story and similar to good ongoing comic series is giving me this growing story that over the next couple years is going to

every, I don't know, I don't know, like, how often would you say division drop stuff every three months? Well, nowadays, like, they do major drops, yeah, I mean, whatever quarter, for sure. I mean, that's what they're going for, yeah. Like, that can be cool to drop in and get like a substantial like new chock update. New missions, yeah.

Because playing Spider-Man, like, I had a great time. And then when they did the DLC, like, they weren't all equal. Like, I would say that one and three were significantly better than two. But it was still fun to kind of jump back in. Oh, yeah. And if they have a reason to play, a good enough reason to play

and maybe even more often, like, that could be fun. The other day I was sitting at home, right? And I had that thing where I'm jumping around my different games to play. And I did the normal thing that I do every so often. I decided, I'm like, today would be a great day for Marvel Heroes,

which was jump in and just beat the shit out of things and get a new suit for Deadpool or Spider-Man and swing around, right? And then they would do different drops. And if that's what this is going to be, where it is, yeah, there's a new area, and a new hero and a new reason to turn it back on and go punch some bad guys or whatever. And I mean, that could be cool. That could be really cool.

Yeah, that doesn't do it for me. I don't know why that feels like that. Something like that kind of feels like it less the importance of it. I don't know. I agree that too. Again, I'd still rather just be uncharted the Avengers game. Saying that, right, you also like, well, how close is this going to get in a different way to Marvel Ultimate Alliance?

Right. The Ultimate Alliance 3 coming out in July, which I can't wait for. And if that's the kind of thing they're giving us, Because yeah, that's multiplayer. So is it the same idea that we're just jumping in and punching shit? Or are the new, what they call them, areas, environments? Can't find my notes. There is.

How is we here in region? Like, is that part of the story? How is this going to be more than just a 90s arcade game where four of us get together and play and just go left to right? And, you know, punch things with our unique power and then keep going forward, but in 3D with cutscenes. And it's also the question of the same thing. We need more. The same thing. you? I think the twists and turns of like story beats are we're gonna differentiate it from a game

that's more of an arcade experience as opposed to like a single player driven massive story that's, you know, gonna make you feel things, you know? That's what I want. That's what I'm hoping for. May 15th, I think a healthy release date for that. I think that's, it's realistic. You know, it's like not going to get rushed. Next year's stacked. February and yeah. Stacked already, man. Like from February to May, we're like, wow, we're in so many games now. I can spy, cyberpunks right behind that. Nuts, man.

Yeah. It's going to be exciting. Yeah, it's going to be interesting how this one goes. I need to know more. I need to see all the stuff. I need to know how they're talking about this game.

It's good we're getting it to play. It's good. There's going to be gameplay on the internet soon. But like, like, I feel like it's a choice. They didn't show gameplay here. Oh,

yeah. And that's not a good sign at all. That's not, yeah. Way more gameplay of Fall Fantasy 7 than I expected them to. Yeah. So that's the dangerous part, right? Is if that you're not showing,

hey, you can play it at the booth. Why aren't you showing us the gameplay right now? Yeah. What is going like what are you hiding? What am I seeing at the booth? Yeah. Is it cooperative stuff or is it single player stuff or is that the same stuff? Because there's a lot of times that we talk about when it comes to press conferences of oh, well if you're going to do gameplay, don't make a sit through it. Like just say we can go watch it somewhere else and do that. That's for games that like we've heard about before. Like for Avengers, it's like no, no, no. People are here. People are waiting to see this. Let us see it here. You know, like even if it's like a, a cut down

trailer of gameplay, like to show you. I definitely. I definitely. definitely what it could have gone for the Final Fantasy 7 treatment of this. Yes. Where I was like, cool, you've seen all the and when they were like another glimpse of gameplay. I was hoping it was going to be, they pick up the sticks or somebody in a,

you know, pre-can demo. Here's your ultimate ability. And when that happens, well, I would have been cool. Yeah, I feel like, Spider-Man, when we first saw it, there, like, I even feel like that we saw more things

that were like, that can't be gameplay. Right. And then immediately they came out there. It is, though. It is. Like, when they're jumping through and the glasses breaking all that, like that is gameplay. And then the next year,

When we got the bigger, like, blowout of the gameplay of Spider-Man, it was like, well, this is a lengthy demo. But I just feel like we're not going to get that chance. Well, no, because this is the last D3, right, before than other. Now, granted, I guess they could do their own show. Well, you're the guy, Disney D323. Is that a thing? Yeah, you're right.

That could be a thing. But that's not games, though. That's not one all I. Sure. The Square Inn Express conference that has been completely marketed as the Avengers. But again, here's the next question, too, is that, all right, they're demoing it at the booth. They've said as much.

you assume that somebody playing the game and then when they go to IG when they go to game spot when they go to these live shows are they demoing the game there like this is the normal thing where we're not granted I know you and I talk about how a press conference should be structured

are we doing the thing where we're devouring on the information out being like there's not enough when their plan is this week to intersperse more now granted it's just the all eyes were on this I agree a thousand percent that's we're not arguing you I don't need a 15 minute demo I would have preferred that but Game Award somebody calls out to

I could have at least had a Comic Con Comic-Con The salty part of me is mad that All these other games got way more time Than the one game that we really cared about Is there any chance that PlayStation does some event

Or Sony does some event? Yeah, there could be another one of the PlayStation Stay at a place Yeah, you're right, good call, Kev Yeah, they have the beta access Or the bonuses and goodies or whatever they were talking about Yeah, there's still a lot of places to show it But I 1,000% agree with Tim Getty's that yes

Like, this is E3 All eyes are on you, we want you to do this I, again, I think this is, I think, Final Fantasy, even as a guy who's like, not a Final Fantasy fan, right? I thought Final Fantasy 7's presentation was great. Yeah, that was awesome. Show so much, got the excitement of the beginning

of like Select a remake or whatever. And then this one was a great first look. Definitely could have used more. Absolutely. But before we get to that Twitch chat, I just want to say thank you very much for sticking with us for these pre-and-post shows. We'll be back tomorrow at 845 AM Pacific Time

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And now, let's just get into it. Starting at the top. Game by game now. Game by game. Final Fantasy 7. Remake. March 3rd, 2019. That intro title, like the game screen at the beginning. beginning, yes. Whatever the idea that was.

That was the thing is they, when we saw the stage immediately, I was like, they need to have some levels of hype to this or else it's not worth it. That was the only real thing they did with it that was interesting, but I thought I was worth it because that that definitely got me hyped. I feel like everything they showed was fantastic. That I was already sold in the game, obviously, but this exceeded my expectations from a gameplay perspective. It looks super fun.

I loved all the additions to the story, knowing Fong Fantasy 7 so well. I like that I had questions. I like that it looked like it was kind of opening the lore up and making things a bit more modern that aren't stuck in a weird 1996-197 world of translation errors and things like that. But I will say the one real question I had going into this was what is the release strategy for this game?

And it's still weird and ambiguous to me. They said there's two Blu-ray discs worth of content and then immediately the sentence after he was like, so the first game is going to be just Midgar and then they kind of stop talking about the rest of it. And I'm like, what does that mean? Like, that's really, really weird. It's weird and vague.

Yeah, they said there's enough content here to sort of become its own single player campaign story or whatever the hell that means, which is cool and exciting. I'm sure like that's really cool to be able to be in Midgar that much more and have. And build on. Yeah, build on what you know. Yeah. But on top of that, though, so for Final Fantasy 7,

the percentage of that game, I would say that Midgar is, 25% of the games And then the rest of There's 75% left Like I don't understand how they're gonna make that balance Work out where Like without one fart PTAB

One part feeling Way too drawn out Or the other part feeling way too rushed Yeah because they specifically said It's on two Blue Ray discs Yeah it's like well it's a digital world we're in Well that's just a lot of big ass textures

Tim is there any chance is there any chance that it's more than two games? I mean, it is, but they, why would they say two Blu-ray discs? Like, again, all I'm saying is this was ambiguous and weird and didn't answer the questions. Having the title, it didn't say part one. It said, Fallen Fantasy 7 remake, we saw the box art, right? It's like, that's weird. Are these all going to be a bunch of $60 releases?

That's fine if you build this as a trilogy or a duology or whatever you want it to be, but like, quality. At least, like, be upfront about what it is. And like, we choked about like, oh, like, they probably, like, they won't answer it when, uh, when they come on stage. And they actually did not really answer it when they came on stage. Yeah. It was so fucking weird. Are they dual layered, uh, Blu-ray discs too? Like, isn't that a thing?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the disc, this don't matter, though. Like, whatever amount of discs is like, it was three discs on CD when it first came on. They only said that just to, you know, give the audience an idea of how big it is, you know. That's all it was. But I had the idea there that, like, the two.

discs weren't one game. Like the way that they phrased it made it seem like the first one is Midgar. Here's what I got for you. Press release. Yeah. Final Fantasy 7 remake is a reimagining of the iconic original game that redefined the RPG genre, diving deeper into the world and its characters than ever before. The first game in this project will be set in the eclectic city of Midgar and presents

a fully standalone gaming experience that provides a great starting point to the series. Along with unforgettable characters and a powerful story, Final Fantasy 7 remake features a hybrid battle system that merges real-time action with strategic command-based combat. To watch this, blah, blah. Then it's into special edition details. Then it's into pre-orders. Then it's into the cast. And then Final Fantasy 7 remake will be available first for the PlayStation 4 system on March 3, 2020 with English, Japanese, French, and German voiceover.

blah, blah, blah, blah, so on and forth. Yeah, nothing about. Sorry, I'm reading live. It's just, it's bizarre that they're, it's bizarre that they're, they're being this weird. Like, it's like, all right, we're going to get

Font Fantasy 7 remake and then Fawn Fantasy 7 2 remake, like remake 2. I don't know, it's square. I would not leave it past them to come up with some weird ass names. But all that stuff aside,

I was blown away by that. The music sounds amazing. I love that it's fully orchestral, new arrangements that they were making of stuff. The voice acting, I enjoyed a lot. I like the changes to the dialogue.

I think the character models look awesome. I'm not the biggest fan of the Advent Children's style over the original. original. But seeing this, it feels like a nice mix. And seeing Tifa, like, makes me be like, all right. They're still being true to the original Final Fantasy 7. So that hit all the right marks for me, with the exception of the information on how the release is going to go. Yeah, it looks super exciting. As somebody who doesn't care that much about Final Fantasy, I will definitely play this game.

I think the action sequences, one minor nitpick, I feel like that one boss battle with that spider robot, it went a little too long. But aside from that, I just, everything looked awesome, the effects, the way the combat was represented, I thought the game looks really good. I love how quippy it was. I love that in that boss fight, they were constantly going back and forth between Barrett and Cloud.

And I think that that's something that with the look of Android children, which is so much darker and more emo and more hot topics than... It's so desaturated. Than the original game was. The original game, like, you know, because it had so many different art styles

and so much restrictions and limitations on how it could look, I feel like so much of the character came through the quirkiness of the dialogue and the very Japanese things that they did. And Advent Children really felt like their Tsu-Namara was going through his like high school phase of like, but now I'm all dark.

And when you see Cloud, you're like, you don't look like the fun loving cloud you were in the beginning of seven here. But hearing them talk back and forth, the mic, maybe we're going to get some of that. So that was excited to me. Yeah, March 3rd, 2019. I believe it. Yeah. I want to say.

I think I do. The fact that it seems limited to Midgar, I'm like, all right, that's all we've seen for the last five years now. Like, I imagine, like, we've seen the Scorpion boss fight at PSX, 2016. Yeah. I'd like to imagine that a week ago, they're like, should we just do Midgar? Yeah, let's just keep it a midgar.

Like, let's not make anything else. It's 2020. I keep saying 2019. Sorry, chat. But anyway, that was Final Fantasy 7 remake. Life is Strange, too. Yeah. Cool.

Hey guys, remember, this is still out. Very slowly, limping out. Every few months, you get a new episode. You saw Jack Septu guy. We did see Jack. It gets Septu guy. Yeah. Doesn't do anything for you?

I thought it was a weird. I mean, yes, there was a game that's already out that's continuing to limp out. I mean, they didn't even remind you the release dates. They're just like, it's out now. It's out. All right. Great. A bunch of streamers like it.

Great. Thank you. Yeah. Your release is not great for this. You should put less tie between them or you should have put them out all at once. games are hard man I'm not saying they're not hard I'm not taking away anything from don't nod

you know I love to don't nod but it's just like if I'm the guy who's like who's like you know what I'm just gonna wait like that's a bad sign yeah then Crystal Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles remastered we've heard about this before during the Nintendo Direct where they don't saw the Final Fantasy ports I don't know if we've heard about the iOS and mobile stuff before but it sounds like it's out now

cool that's for you go for it Octobath Traveler on Steam we knew it was coming to PC I don't think we knew was out now on Steam. Did we? Did we? I thought so. That's another thing

that I'm pretty sure they did. I thought that was another one where I was just like, really? We're reminding us? Then last remnant remastered. Coming to Switch tonight. That's another one of those things

where like that doesn't even remember what that looks like. But the people that do, love it. This is definitely a big thing for them. I was like shout out to those fans because they fucking love that game. Yeah, June 7th Octopath came to Steam.

Cool. But yeah, this is I love how many remastered. games are here that weren't expected necessarily. Last Remnant being one of them Switch tonight, cool. Dragon Quest Builders 2 went on for approximately nine years.

Oh, my God. I don't know. We're talking about how big it is. You make jokes but he's dead now. And then a demo June 27th. Yeah. July 12th released in. For that one. I could not care less about that. I enjoyed it on Vita. Yeah, PSVita, but

I'm not. I didn't even need to go back to it. Then Dragon Quest 11 we've seen for the 10,000th freaking time for Switch coming to Switch. It has the most bizarre name ever. I didn't even write it all down, but it's Dragon Quest There's not enough letters. Eleven

Revenant of the Something S Something Edition, blah, blah, blah. It's coming to Switch. Still don't have a release date, but it's this fall. And then Circuit Superstars 2020. This is kind of Squares little... Cute little racer. Part of their collective. Neat little art style. Yeah, by the way, we have a

talked about the Sunday show. What the fuck EA? Like you have your little EA originals, right, that they've been having like the last couple years like a way out and yarny and all that stuff. And then they don't have a press conference this year. But then they announced three originals. Yeah, they had they did. It was very weirdly message for EA play where they had a panel afterwards that was EA original's panel and put out a bunch of stuff there. I thought that was like, why? That's a good look. Why wouldn't you do that during EA play when all eyes are on you similar what we're talking about with Avengers? Yeah, it's very weird. Yeah.

Especially with me interviewing people between stuff. Hey, we have, I don't need how many they announced. Three or four or something like that, right? Three. So why not? The next game from the away off creators. Just put more of those interviews in there. And don't get them wrong.

I'm not trying to disrespect anybody. Did we need Trevor Noah talking about FIFA? I would rather use that time for, hey, here's three games. Yeah. What do I know? Or just add another half hour. I just did a successful showcase. No big deal.

No big deal. YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. You know what? Yeah, circuit superstars 2020 had a cool art style. It looks kind of like that, uh, S&E. S game that Andre from Game Explained loves, the RC Pro Am. Okay. Yeah, a little top down.

Sure, guys. Yeah, I don't enjoy those. It looks like you control the pit crew and stuff like that. I don't know. It looks cute. Battalion, 1944, Eastern Front is on Steam now. Then Square Inix of Music, we knew

that it was on Spotify on this last week, but they had a little commercial for it. It's coming everywhere. That was a little nice commercial. I enjoy that. I hate it. Because, like, usually those commercials, was like overstay their welcome or weird

but this spoke to the fans. I think it was like the one bright light in the middle of this whole thing. And then Kingdom Hearts 3 Remind. DLC. Coming winner and how did they do it again? How did they not have sound effects

in that freaking trip? It was so distracting. They didn't even have voice over. It was just words on the screen. Guys, these works so far. Why change it now? If it ain't broke. Like Michael, the last two,

the last eight trailers have had no sound effects. You got to make sure you enable them on this one. Like, all right, got you. boss and still went out. Michael, come on. Yeah, I thought that was really,

really bizarre. It does not get me excited at all by watching that. New gameplay, though, right? Yeah, it's new gameplay, but a lot of it was just kind of that's the end of the game of Kingdom Hearts 3, but just from other players' perspectives that you're kind of like fighting with at the end.

It's like near automata. And like, that's fine, but I don't know. I thought that was a very weird way to show that. But I mean very much kind of like that's their thing. That is their thing. They're better. Badly show things.

Or for worse. And then speaking to badly showing things, Final Fantasy 14, Shadowbringers, July 2019. Shadow Brinsie. Crazy. People love that game. Good for them. Weird trailer that was like had a Instagram filter on it the whole time. It also lasted seven minutes.

You know what? My brain was going to say, yeah, and there was that like cat lady in the hood. But no, that was. Bethesda. That was older scrolls. Yeah. Ah, man, but before we move on, let me tell you guys that this episode is brought to you by 23 and me. Father's Day is right around the corner, and 23 and Me's health and ancestry kit is the perfect gift.

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Sign up at games.robinhood.com. that's games.robin hood.com. Dot com. Back to the show. Yeah. Dying Light 2. Spring 20, 20. Yep. How do we not have a release date still?

Who knows? It's just like, I get that they might not be ready, but at the same time, it's like, you should be ready. Have you been following this game closely? No, but I saw it behind closed doors last year at E3. Is it very, is it not as much about zombies?

Is it more about people now? aren't they all right? I don't, I mean, like, the last one with the zombies, but the real enemies, the humans. Man's in humanity to man. The demo they showed me very much was that. It was, like, there's, like, camps of people. I just haven't kept up, I guess.

Yeah. But, I don't know. It looked cool last year when I saw it, but, like, seeing it now, I'm just like, wow, it's still not done. All right. And spring 2020, like, where are you going to answer there? It seems like a game that's going to just fall through

just with everything. else around it. Just like you. It'll be right in the middle. Oh. I'm looking at the man in the middle. Romancing Saga 3 and Romancing Saga, Scarlett, something or other, Grace, are coming soon for the first time ever in the West.

That's another Jerry Patty thing where I'm sure he was very, a lot of, a lot of claps like a donated professor's mom. Oh, yay. Final Fantasy, brave, exvious, war of the... Vidians is what I wrote I have War the Visions but I'm not sure If that's right either Probably

The DSR. It was a good guy that's neither But it was weird Because they showed the trailer It looked like Fall Fantasy tactics But it wasn't And then it was a mobile game And that could be cool If it's tactics on mobile

But then I was like War the Visions is correct Okay war of the visions I wouldn't put it past them To be nonsense There was like a different consonant in there There was like three Ls and two cues and stuff

And then we got Outriders, summer 2020 from people can fly. Cool. I mean, I thought the trailer looked cool that cinematic, but we did not need to do the developer deep dive. I felt like that was... Developer, very shallow dive. Sure. You saw them do it playing for a second. Like, oh, can I see the...

You saw pictures of people screens of them working on it, but it's like, we didn't need that at all. No, not at all, man. Yeah, like, I thought it looked really cool, though. I think the premise of like this weird sort of post-apocalyptic thing with giant-ass monsters with like a big vagina in their chest or whatever it was. It had teeth, Kevin. Teeth too.

Man, be careful. Not a fan of teeth at all. And then Oni Naki is coming, August 22nd, 2019. As far as I understand, that's a new property, totally. And then Fawfantzzi 8 remastered. I can't believe they're doing this, man.

It's like, it's been years and years now. Like, remember PSX when they announced Final Fantasy 7 remastered and everyone was just like, What? That was such a tease that it was going to be a remake and it wasn't we're so many years past that where now Fawfiz 10 10 2 have been remastered and ported a million times and now they're on everything 12's remastered ported on everything nine remastered port on everything eight was the one that I thought had no chance in hell of ever ever coming back and most of it's because of weird licensing issues. The fact that the original code was like lost on on PC and whatever like that type of stuff but there. it is, man. They made it happen. Like, this is a huge deal to people. That's pretty awesome.

Because I know, not only you, but I've seen it all of the internet of like, give us Final Fantasy 8 remaster. Give us Final Fantasy 8, and it's really cool that they're getting that. It is actually one of my least favorite. But... 11's your favorite, right? I fucking hate you so, God.

But this is, this is big news. Yeah, like, you got your Zach Ryan's out there who fucking adore this game, and it's exciting for them. And it definitely is the underdog of the golden age of Final Fantasy, so it's cool to finally see it be brought

up with its brothers and sisters. Which ones have been remastered? I mean, at this point, 9, as far as I remember, wasn't actually remastered, it was just kind of ported. Let me go back, not remaster, just like ported. All of them, like recent ports, except for 8? Yeah. That's crazy. That's really cool.

No, and I mean, a lot of them have been like HD remastered, like 10, 10, 2, 12, so. Yeah, 9 had a weird. Yeah, it was just a kind of an HD kind of up-res thing. It's like a porn, you know. So, yeah, man. That's cool. That's awesome.

And then where are we out here? Yeah, Marvel Avengers. Finally made it. It was as long recapping it as it was watching it. I have more information for you. This is from Marvel.com. They have the release and the trailer up. Can we trust them?

I think you can. Marvel's Avengers is a unique take on these iconic superheroes, including Captain America, Iron. Man Hulk, Black Widow, and Thor. This character-driven story celebrates authentic Marvel heroism and humanity in a cinematic campaign filled with single player and co-op missions.

So it sounds like it's mission by mission inside of this story that you can play either by yourself or with other people. Like separate the way they make it sound like. In a cinematic campaign filled with single player and co-op missions. Unlocked powerful skills and new gear to build your ideal version of Earth's Mightiest Heroes

when combined with original fan favorite, written classic outfits, there are nearly limitless ways to customize these iconic heroes. No. You don't like that? I don't like that at all. Now it strikes me as you're going to run into the same problem as Marvel Heroes, where cool, Spider-Man's getting these better web shooters or mask, and there's no change to what he looks like.

You're putting the shit on and he's giving you a stat buff. Because again, that would make sense with it being like a destiny, destiny or division or whatever is a loot grind, right? The loot treadmill. Yeah. But if you're not... Well, we saw the Iron Man spacesuit with the white suit. Sure.

That's a good point. But maybe that's just a suit. Maybe that's just that mission Yeah Yeah I don't know I don't think that would I think that there would be some visual

Customization so yeah yeah I think so yeah I don't think that's the way to make it work I don't really think they can do it without it like Yeah but see I think there'll there'll be different suits for sure But I think that the cap gets better gloves Do his gloves do his gloves are different on his suit dead Great point If Iron Man gets different

Gauts does his gauntlet look different Hmm I would think so yeah You'd hope so yeah Well guys I get to play Favavest C7 remake and Avengers this week. What? What? Oh man. It's a shame. It's a shame. It's a shame. We didn't want to go.

I'm going to call it now. Captain America isn't really dead. Yeah, for sure, dude. Okay. Yeah, I guess why would they have them up there? Ladies and gentlemen, this has been the kind of funny games cast post-show analysis for Square Enix. Tomorrow we will be

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