Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Star Wars and Mass Effect! EA Press Conference Reactions! - Kinda Funny Gamescast (E3 2015)

Episode Date: June 15, 2015

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Starting point is 00:00:08 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for EA's press conference, E3, 2015. As always, I'm Tim Geddes. I'm joined here by the coolest dudes in video games, Colin Moriarty, and... The coolest dude. In video games. Greg Miller. Alfredo Diaz is not with us right now. He's run away.
Starting point is 00:00:27 So his name is there. Just pretend that he's there in spirit. It's because Kevin left this stupid thing up there and then left us alone to die out here. He did. He did. A lot of things are gone. I'll go turn that off. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Thank you, Greg. I appreciate that. So right now we're live on YouTube Because Twitch went down Yep Very reliable None of us expected that Yeah Twitch is down
Starting point is 00:00:49 It's not our fault, it's not Kevin's fault No it's not our fault or Kevin's fault But yeah no surprise that Twitch goes down Exactly when you need it Right during the Star Wars presentation Yeah But it'll be back up hopefully after the Ubisoft conference So we can do the post-Ubysoft and then pre-Soney
Starting point is 00:01:04 Which is the one we're really been waiting for Yeah We only care about the Sony I know. Let's be honest. That's going to be good. That's going to be real. Real good. But right now, guys, we're talking about EA. They just had their thing.
Starting point is 00:01:15 It was a thing. It was a thing. And, man, I don't know. I've been talking a lot about these press conferences today. I'm like, wow, people have really learned on how to make a press conference. Like, we're getting these excellent press conferences. And then this happens. I'm like, maybe.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah. The world doesn't know how to do a perfect one. My God. Now, before we get into everything, I want to run through all the things that were shown. We got Mass Effect. Wake me up when it's all. And drama.
Starting point is 00:01:37 All right? Yeah. Holiday 2016. Exciting. Star-Noff, strong, star-nuff, good. Need for Speed, which is very fast and furious inspired. Yeah, no shit. The OST was legit, the soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It sounded awesome. I'm totally in this, except it's not Fast and Fierce the game, and it should be. Then Star Wars the Old Republic, it's Knights of the Fallen Empire expansion for free. Coming soon. People are excited, I guess. Unravel, it's a new IP. It's a puzzle platformer. It's kind of like Yoshi's Woolly World, but only the main character,
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yarnie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yarnie. His name's Yarnie. Yeah, he has the yarn. Otherwise, it's like, the rest of it's just like a normal world. And it looks kind of dope. Plants versus Zombies, Garden Warfare 2 got a very extended demo that it didn't need. Single player will be in for the first time. Spring 2016. Then we get to the sports. We got NHL 16, PGA tour, NBA Live. People were excited, I guess. And then... People were excited? Then someone came out and said, let's talk about mobile. And then they talked about... some Star Wars card game, and then Minions Paradise. That's when I took my bathroom break. First of all, who drew straws at EA was like, someone has to go on stage and say, let's talk about mobile. And that poor woman was like, oh, God, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Damn it, now I got to go on. She was enthusiastic about it, though. And then you think it's over, and they're like, no, we're going back to sports. So then they talked about FIFA, and then my boy, Paley came out. Your boy, he's definitely my boy. Okay, I didn't know that about you. He came out. I liked him when they asked to,
Starting point is 00:03:06 question he just goes ha ha no I liked that that was give a fuck he got his totally dollar payday to go there and do this but then they brought it back and gave us a little bit of that MIR's edge catalyst February 23rd 2016 I like that I like that we're getting a date that's not just next year it's not just spring 26 right right right right so that's good I like to maintain the look maintained a lot of the feel but also looked a little more realistic sure sure that was good then they went back to sports Madden sale and mobile Madden 16 the app experience they talked about drafting and
Starting point is 00:03:36 this shit for a while. I'm like, well, great. Great, great, great. Then a Madden's 16 trailer. It's like, okay, we get it, guys. It's coming. We get it. You like Madden a lot. Just stop. Now, the most important thing, though, is the entire conference, they kept teasing. Star Wars is coming. It'll be at the end. Don't worry. It's coming. It's coming. Yeah, they had to. Because that keeps telling us.
Starting point is 00:03:56 They had a countdown. They said 15 minutes at one point. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's like, hey, you get the Star Wars, but you need to go through the obstacle course first. Like, can you get to the end. You can get it eventually. And then they did. And then they did show the first ever gameplay of Star Wars Battlefront. Which leaked on YouTube before then. Not leaked, I guess, as much as I think the embargo went up.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And they were like, well, fuck it, now I'll do this. So what do you guys think? I thought it was a pretty poor conference. And it was super uneven, which I thought would, you know, which I just, I feel like EA's always just kind of doing their thing. But they're never exemplary, but they're never, that was pretty bad. Yeah. Now, there were great games. I mean, opening up with Mass Effect, the Andromeda was very cool, very excited about that game.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I mean, I'm looking at my notes here. I literally wrote a bunch of Z's next. to need for speed need for speed z's yeah because it was like the speeds they're like hey we have this new thing and then they just did slides for the longest time before they jumped into this weird live action thing before they then jumped into sliders and stuff it was just it was a conference you know i was over there talking to tyson root you know from super knocking boots and he's like on board we're like we're like we're bored and i was like well this just isn't a conference aimed at us and he said who's it aimed at yeah that's a good point like who is it who is it
Starting point is 00:04:59 aimed at i don't know you're a great the garden warfare stuff too this is so weird earlier we were joking about a guy coming out in a crash bandicoot mascot outfit and that was a fucking joke you know but that would be at least funny but someone people that get it this guy we have a freaking zombie come out and it's just like awkward as hell then he gets ushered off the stage and it was just like it was pretty poor i mean
Starting point is 00:05:18 so they had a good beginning something solid towards the end in uh mir's edge which looks cool and then star was battlefront which battlefront looks fucking bonkers good i'm i'm really really shocked about how good that game the presentation of it it felt so star star wars i think that's the most important thing the destroyers
Starting point is 00:05:34 like you can see the Star Destroyers like an orbit. Yeah. The TIE fighters just flying by and then just the camera angles and stuff. It seems a little extreme. Yeah, it's very, it's very busy. But it's cool. It is cool. That's what it would be like to be actually in one of those battles.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And I loved that the music was just constantly playing and constantly changing depending on what you were doing. And it's just like, wow, this fucking, it feels like Star Wars. Like this feels like the universe that I want to be in. This is not no spin-off. So Colin was wrong. There was no episode 7 game. Nope.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Which makes me happy. Yeah, I mean, there's still. There still might be. I mean, we should go into that while we remember it, Tim, that we each had an EA prediction. Greg said EA would announce Mass Effect 4 is coming in 2016. It's not called Mass Effect 4, but it is Mass Effect 4. So, we'll allow it. So that's half a point. And the Mass Effect trilogy, which I was shocked. I thought you nailed that one. Yeah, me too. So they didn't say anything about Mass Effect trilogy. Maybe they'll do, if it's coming off fall 2016, that means that's an E3-2016 game. Right. Yeah, yeah. For me, I said, yeah, the second Star Wars game tied into the movie and releases this fall, but that didn't happen. But when I looked at Battlefront, even though I was astounded by it, and I was so pleased to see it for the first time,
Starting point is 00:06:39 one of the things that stood out to me was I was like, yes, this is definitely not a game for kids. What are they going to play? It just reaffirmed, it just reaffirmed like, what the hell? This can't be it. I mean, I think that Disney Infinity and Lego Star Wars would be the answers. Like, that is the sure-fire kid thing that are, those are going to be good games, too. Like, that's the difference, specifically Lego Star Wars. You know the quality is going to be there.
Starting point is 00:06:59 But did they announce Lego Star Wars for seven? No, they haven't yet. Maybe they will at games con. That is a British studio, so they maybe wouldn't announce there. I don't know. But yeah, man, Star Wars, I was sold before I even saw it, but now that I saw it, I was just like, this looks like... But are you really going to play it? That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:14 You're sold on the idea? I'm definitely sold on the idea. I will try it out. I don't think I'm going to invest that much time into it, but for me, it is going to be a significant amount of time comparatively to what I would put into other games. Specifically other shooters. I look at this, and I was just like, I need to play this. Right. Just because it looks like something that you need to experience.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Right, yeah. I'm definitely going to fool around with it. right. It looks like a lot of fun. It's beautiful. It's cool Star Wars stuff. But how long I'll hang out of there? I don't know. Yeah. I mean, so I want to talk a little bit. Let's talk about some of these games that we at least liked, right? Or that looked interesting. Yeah. Mass Effect Andromeda, I think, we don't know anything about it. No details other than holiday 2016. I like that. Andromeda is the big key. Right. Andromeda is the closest galaxy to the Milky Way. Clearly the, you know, I don't want to spoil, but what went down on Mass Effect 3. render some things that might not be possible in the future of the series but I'd why everyone was so interested in how they would continue it
Starting point is 00:08:05 Andromeda being another galaxy entirely Is a pretty clever yet obvious solution to continue mass effect So and I assume that's what the Andromeda call out isn't it? So I thought that that was exciting at least I thought it was weird the way they opened with it and kind of just Shad it out and then never say anything about it again That was kind of bizarre I was that a game unravel I'm into it yeah it looked it looked cute I like the guy I was on stage
Starting point is 00:08:26 I felt bad for him in the sense that he was just so clearly very nervous and I'd be fucking nervous. He was nervous, but he was excited. And I think that's something that's very important to point out. Like, he wasn't just like an awkward nerdy nervous dude. He was an awkward nerdy nervous dude that was showing something that he poured his heart into and was really excited to show. Like, there was a genuine excitement that you saw from him.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And as weird and awkward as that was, it's like, it's kind of endearing where you're just like, oh, no, I agree. And then you see the gameplay and it's like, oh, this isn't just something weird. This is actually something that looks fun and nice and different. Because when I first saw it, you're like, great, wow, you're really copying the yarn thing. But then you see it and you're like, they're not at all. Like, just one art style for the character, but the gameplay looked different and the way they can use it. Like, it's, it looks good.
Starting point is 00:09:07 One worry I have about it is. Is it going to be too fucking sad? Because it looks super sad. Well, it does look, it does look sad. But it's not so much that as much as it looks like it might have too many gameplay mechanics. Like, there's something when it comes to those, like, artsy games where there's too many things you need to learn and the yarn can do too many contextual things in different ways. Yeah. That just in that, uh, the trailer.
Starting point is 00:09:28 this show, like there was a ton of different things you could do with the yarn. And that worries me in the sense of the game might be a little bit uneven in terms of what's fun and what's not fun. Sure. But I'm intrigued in it. Yeah, me too. And I'm, I feel like that was maybe the prettiest game that they showed like pound for pound. When you really looked at the gameplay and the backgrounds and stuff like that, I was like,
Starting point is 00:09:50 wow, this is a stunning, stunning looking game. Well, don't forget, though, the PGA, whatever the hell it's called, is using Frostbiter. So that's really a pretty game. self right there. For us by such a, I mean, it's a real engine, but it's such a buzzword, too. I will say, for Tim's point, they spent way too much time on plans versus zombies, Garden Warfare too. Now, the game, the game looks cool, and I'm super happy to hear that they're going to do a single player campaign, because I played the original and I liked it, but I don't want to play it like that. I'd rather play it by myself. And they listened, I was surprised
Starting point is 00:10:18 too that they said six million people played it. Now, they gave it away for free and did a bunch of things, but it sold at least a few million copies. Yeah. So definitely, you know, I'm disappointed that pop caps doing these kinds of games, but, um, it was, looks cool in the single player campaign was intriguing to me about that particular game, but I have no they spent an extraordinary amount of time on that game. I had no idea what they were thinking. I had no idea what they were thinking with a lot of things. The entire middle, basically,
Starting point is 00:10:39 after between unraveled and, let's see, Mir's Edge was just fucking nonsense. It's like they kept sandwiching everything. It's like, if they just got the stuff that people don't care about out of the way, or just even just put it in the middle, that would have been fine, but they didn't. It was like
Starting point is 00:10:54 every other thing they would go back to it. It almost became a joke, where it's just like, Really, guys? Like, we're going to talk about an app again, or we're going to talk about sports or whatever. And it's like, there's nothing against sports, but it's just, I don't understand the need to have these press conferences where they talk about the really random upgrades to these sports games
Starting point is 00:11:13 that only hardcore sports games fans care about. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to know, like, who they're talking to and what they're trying to figure out, but you kind of beg the question with your own comment, which was like, they're talking about things no one cares about, which means that it doesn't belong in the show at all. And I'm not saying we speak forever. everyone. Obviously, you know, there are people that care. I care about NHL deeply. I said,
Starting point is 00:11:34 I tweeted out about NHL and how they should have gone on stage and apologized for the, the sorry state that NHL 15 was in. I thought that would have been a really endearing thing and an honest thing to do. They gave gamers a very stripped down bullshit version of the game last year. It played fine and it was fun to play, but there was no meat on the bone at all. After just having the meatiest of all bones with like NHL 12 NHL 13. It was mechanics, but not feature. Exactly. So I would have, I would have liked that, but I mean, you know, I just, if it, they could have cut a half an hour off that conference. Easily. Yeah. But then, I mean, we should focus on the positive, too. Mir's Edge Catalyst looks really cool. Yep, man, that's cool. They gave it a full date, February 23rd. I love that.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I think there's a lot of good things about that. I think overall, that might have been my favorite section of the conference because it felt complete. And you saw the game. You saw a lot of different things. It was interesting that it looked a little bit more, like, aggressive than the first game. Like, it was less, let's jump and, like, platformy type thing. And it was way more like, we're fighting and we're kicking a lot of ass, which is cool. I liked that the look felt the same as the other game, but definitely more modern and more progressed.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And the colors are what really stood out to me. Mirz Edge was very, you know, it had its white, its bright blues and it's bright orange, and like, that was kind of it. This has those elements, but there was also a lot of other colors, a lot of grays, and a lot of, it didn't look as shiny as the other one, which I like. We're finally at a point with games and graphics where things don't need to be shiny to be pretty. They can just be pretty, you know. Yeah, I think it was the game, what I liked about it was that looked very familiar. It's a lot of that washed out look to it, that very sterile, very fascist, very Orwellian look to it, which I think is the hallmark of the original game, and I'm glad that they stuck with it.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I like that they said that there are no levels, obviously, and no loading screen. So it's still a parkour heavy game, but it is a game of exploration in a sandbox, which the original wasn't. So I like the idea of that. And what I really like about this, and this is what we've been talking about, Greg, too, with developers, everyone knew that they worked on Mirage for a long time, long before they ever announced it, which was just a few weeks ago, if that.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And these publishers are starting to come to terms with the fact that there's no reason to announce these games so early. And I like that. They came out with a date that's only eight months away. That's how it should be, right? We don't need these long lead burn-up times where you can get people psyched up and then the thing gets pushed and everything goes to hell.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah, and I think now, like, where games are nowadays where games are coming out all year-round, I think it's important to lock down dates like February 23rd because that tells the other developers like, hey, we should probably stay away from these areas or we should attack these areas, you know, whatever it is. And it's interesting to see, because I don't ever remember really getting spring dates this early
Starting point is 00:14:10 at the previous E3, you know? They've identified their date. I guess they're confident they can go gold and maybe even before Christmas, if not in January, and get the game out. So I was impressed by that. It looks cool. It looks fun.
Starting point is 00:14:20 The Gabriel Krueger character looks interesting. There seems to be a more, I don't remember Mirrors Edge very well, but there seems to be a tighter story, something that emphasizes a little bit more of the world and the danger of the world and the fascism of the world and the lack of privacy. It was funny, I was making fun of a little bit of the presentation, though, because the woman that came out to talk about it sounded just like Nate Fox when he introduced infamous second son. It was like at the PS4 reveal, it was like the same
Starting point is 00:14:47 speech. Like, what if you had no privacy? And, you know, and all that kind of stuff. I feel like I've seen this already. But other than that, you know, it looks pretty cool. And then, of course, Battlefront. Yeah, my God, Battlefront. Um, very impressive. But Battlefront's still impressive, impressive, beautiful. As a critic, you're saying all these things. As you as a player, you're still not, I'm not, I'm not interested in playing it, but it looks, it looks, it looks fun. And there are just a single player component to it. So, like, I could play the missions or whatever, and maybe I'll fuck around with it, but it seems like a game I'd fuck around with for a weekend. Well, see, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:15:14 It's like, I can't wait for that weekend. Those single player missions and stuff and just being able to play with the bots, I am so into that. The multiplayer I could do without. Yeah, I mean, it's, but I understand it. We are in the minority when it comes to that. Like, the majority of people in this room even are just going to be like, I want to fucking play the shit on that. And I understand and respect that. And there's a dynamic to it where I was watching it.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And I'm like, I was looking at, I was thinking of my head. I'm like, huh, maybe I could actually play this. But I was like, no, you know what? I'm not going to enjoy it probably. I just don't want to be in a lobby. And I don't want to be playing with other people having to cooperate or compete in that sense. So it's just not for me. But there's no doubt that they did a beautiful job.
Starting point is 00:15:48 What's funny is seeing a game like that, a Star Wars licensed beautifully rendered game like that, with such obvious shooter theft and shooter field to and shooter look, the bouncing rifle and all those guys. That was so weird. And I pointed this out to Greg where the whole game looked great in the presentation I fucking cannot stop talking about because I think it's so wonderful. But the gun itself and like the hand specifically looked weird to me. Like just it looked really just kind of like stiff. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But I mean, I guess that's also just like that's how the battle from games always kind of have been. So I don't know what else I expect. Yeah. I mean, I think it's so unfortunate that there's not much else to say. It was a disappointing conference. It was a bad job. It wasn't aimed at us for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:28 But who is it? I know. I know. I'm saying the majority of games there weren't our kind of games. You know what I mean? Yeah, but the coolest moment, right, was in the end of Star Wars there where they ran up and the guy gets picked up. The Vader thing. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And then Luke can him go at it? Yeah. Fuck yeah. Could we just had an entire conference of that? It's interesting. We had to start with Mass Effect. Yeah. And then have just like what happened to happen.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Just go. It's interesting to look back at our pre-rerefer. show we did and like talk about all the things that they could have shown that we were expecting or that they need to do surprises and all this stuff and then to get this starting off with mass effect was like oh promising and then it just dropped off right right right right and it's interesting and I think the fact that they from the beginning there are like Star Wars is at the end it was kind of clear that it was just like that is the big thing we all knew that yeah but it's interesting to me that there wasn't any real surprise but I mean I guess unravel was a surprise yeah that's not the
Starting point is 00:17:16 type of surprise I think people were looking for sure sure but it's good though I think that's a good thing. You shouldn't, if you can expect the surprise, that's a different type of surprise thing. Yeah. And I want to say that, you know, because we're beating up on EA a little bit, but I want to give them a lot of credit for identifying a game like Unravel. We often say that it's more of a big publisher like Ubisoft that takes risks on games like Valiant Hearts or Child of Light.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Well, unravel seems like one of those games that's clearly not going to be a critical or commercial success. Yeah. It will be probably a critical success. It's as good as it looks. And it's smart for EA to kind of engender themselves to more of the art house games and the art house gamer because they have no credibility really there because they you know they like Activision have a lot of annualization and they're doing a lot of things like that so um i do want to
Starting point is 00:17:59 give them a lot of credit for finding a game like unravel that they can put up next next to their fifas and next to their need for speeds and all these guys i'm totally with that because it that looks like a tim game you know what i mean that that looks like one of those games that i want to love and uh similar or in the blind force and stuff like that ubi soft is doing like those are intriguing to me those are intriguing to a whole group of people out there and like gamers that don't necessarily want these like big triple a shooters you know or is a you might you mean child of lighter value or he's a a microsoft game fuck you're right yeah i just want because people yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but i understand what you're saying i would think that's ubi
Starting point is 00:18:37 though yeah damn i would put that in that same it looks it looks like whatever you get what i'm saying it looks like it looks like that ray man engine uh quite a bit um but yeah it seems like everyone except for really activision does these kinds of games now and now EA's kind of on board as well i think I think it grows credibility and if you have an audience that likes their need for speeds and they like their math specs and all that I totally respect that those are great games then maybe they see this or maybe there are EA fans out there
Starting point is 00:18:58 and maybe they'll see you know oh well this is a game I should take a chance on that otherwise wouldn't the studio obviously or the company that's best at doing those kinds of games is obviously Sony but but everyone's learning from while they did journey and flower and unfinished swan all these games that no one would probably ever touch and they all ended up doing great so you can also make a buck
Starting point is 00:19:15 if you really wanted to on these games as well but it seems like this studio that made unravels only like 15 people so it's not like it's going to cost them an armour to like to make the game it's going to cost them a few million dollars but we'll see what happened what's going on are we live on twitch now as well no twitch is finally back because when I'm saying twitch is down
Starting point is 00:19:31 I mean the entirety of the site of Twitch was down like no one was broadcasting so now see there are two things on the front page right now and twitch.tv.tv slash Twitch which is where we were streaming the conference from and the co-streaming thing was completely dead so that is back now we're hosting that on our Twitch channel so people over there are so watching.
Starting point is 00:19:48 But if you notice, I have Twitch.com, you just pull it up. There's two things live, which means everything's fucked. And then you can see this other one over here that is not live either. So it's up to us how we want to handle our situation. Well, we're going to figure,
Starting point is 00:19:58 I mean, we have to sit through the Ubi's off-governance, so this might just fix itself. Sure. Oh, no, no, yeah. We're just not going to do the U.B. Pre-show or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Guess what Ubi's coming up.
Starting point is 00:20:08 This is still the post show on EA, which was disappointing in every heart, everybody's heartbroken. I don't know. It was disappointing in a lot of ways, but also was awesome in a couple. EA can never show their face in an E3 again. But no, I mean, I think at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:20:20 we got a couple good things out of this. Sure, it wasn't bad because it was video games. Unravel, we got Battlefront and Mirz Edge. Like that alone, I'm like, cool, great. Four great games in an hour and a half. That's good. It's easy to focus on all the bullshit that we don't care about. And even Need for Speed, like you were saying it looks boring.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I'm intrigued by it. Like, it looks like it's taking a lot of the best pieces from the Need for Speed. And they were saying that, And it's like, you could see it in it. But yeah, it is just... To me, it's just like, I haven't played a need for speed game. I used to play... I played all the ones on PS1, and then I went off to Hoppersu, too, and then I kind of stopped.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So that was, you know, 13 years ago. I don't think it looks boring. I think that that... I thought it was a little disingenuous, and I don't know the need for speed franchise well enough to know, like, what they were picking and choosing. He was calling out carbon and underground and all these things, and I respect that. There's certainly things for that game. But I'm like, dude, just say what it's inspired by and get it over with, because it's clearly and obviously inspired by Fast and Furious. Which is funny.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I don't understand why you're just going to beat around everything about. Everything about that. Like the way that the silhouettes of the faces and the fogs and the music and all that. But the thing is that's funny is like, you know, I love Fast and Furious. Do you? Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. I never heard that.
Starting point is 00:21:23 But Underground originally inspired Fast and Ferry. It was like a totally hand-in-hand thing with that game. So is this Tomb Raider uncharted situation? Yes, exactly. Yeah. So it's interesting. We'll see where it goes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But overall, EA, so far the worst conference. but still had some gems. Yeah, I mean, there was definitely stuff in the beginning. Start is front-loaded. We didn't even talk about Knights of the Fallen Empire, really, which is going to be the add-on to the Old Republic, which is the MMO that came out, and then I didn't even know what it still existed.
Starting point is 00:21:55 That's dated for October 27th, and it's free. Yeah. Which is a clever way. E.A's clever, right? That game still exists and has a group of people that play, however big. Yeah. They spent an assid amount of money on making that game,
Starting point is 00:22:09 and they clearly probably haven't made it back. Now Star Wars has always been part of the Zike Ice, but now this fall and this winter, Star Wars is really going to be part of the Zikeis. So you get people in on this free DLC and you hook maybe a few hundred thousand people back in a playing and paying for a subscription or whatever it is or buying the game.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I don't even know if it's a subscription-based game anymore. There's something clever about that, about going to your well and being like, well, this exists, and we still support it, and now it's relevant again. Maybe they should have, you know, released a whole new MMO or prepared one, but, I mean, that's hard. That takes years to do.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Exactly. So you go back and you figure those, things out. It was interesting to see them how to come out and give them time and then also to be like, hey, this is what you wanted probably the first time, right? This is BioWare storytelling, make choices, meet these characters, all these different things that, I mean, like, when they announced Old Republic, right, people were like, oh, cool, but I think the majority people are like, why don't you just make another Cotor?
Starting point is 00:22:58 You know what I mean? Like, just give us another BioWare Star Wars game, give them the ability to go do whatever they want to go do, and us as players to choose our destiny and stuff like that. And I know people like Cotor to an extent, but it's an MMO. Didn't click the way it should have. Swortor. Sorry, I do that every time. I mean, again, the CG cutscenes look fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, of course they do. Super cool. I want that game. Yeah, you won't get that game, please. I'll never get that game. But it'll, one day, maybe. One day, maybe. Things are looking a little bit better on Twitch.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah, it looks like it's coming back. I mean, I was just watching. Our friend Jules Wasam actually was on there. He's on the official Twitch thing. Yeah, he was on our friend from Renegade Kid that does mutant Mudd's attack and Zio Drifter and all that. He was showing his games off. So it looks like everything's, and a viewer of Colin and Greg Live almost every day.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I don't know if you knew that. I didn't know that. That's 100% true story. What a nice guy. Great developer. Bringing the new mutant muds and Zeodrifter to Vita, PX4, I believe. So yeah, we have to decide now. We're going to, because of the jacked-up fucking nature of Twitch.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I'm sure we'll go back there. When it works, yeah. The basic thing is that Ubisoft will go. Right now, Twitch, it looks like, if you look at my screen and how broken your screen is, it looks like Twitch is pouring in all their efforts to making sure Twitch. dot TV slash Twitch works. That's the one that we'll have the Ubisoft conference on it. We are hosting it on our site as far as Twitch.
Starting point is 00:24:14 tv.tv slash kind of funny games. When that ends, or if we can come in beforehand, we'll break in and put ourselves back up with the conference still going. If not, then be in the chat like you are right now. We'll show you the link to the next YouTube video. That's the Post show. I was wondering if it would be fantastic that Twitch support might just tweet something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:28 The fact that I'm throwing that out there. Twitch and Twitch support aren't talking about their entire site being broken and shows you how broken it is. That there's like all hands on decks. How can they not? Someone figure this out. Look at Twitch. Just as a brief aside, though, how can they not, like, it's probably a server load issue, and it's going to get, it's going to be the worst it's going to be during Sony. So, like, how do you not prepare for that?
Starting point is 00:24:48 I don't know, man. It's a little obnoxious. I gotta be honest with you. But we're rolling up, we're rolling on on YouTube. We have 7,500 people here joining on YouTube. We appreciate it. And remember, Tim will be cutting this out as a games cast, another regular gamescast episode. We're going to end to this whole thing. Gamescast is ending now. This is the, as soon as we end this video, the gamescast is done. So this, whatever the hell this happens, it'll just be the gamescast. So right now, this is still games cast? Yeah. Okay, cool. Oh, I mean, do you want to do... Let's talk about Ubi self real quick. Because we're going into Ubi, right? The pre? Yeah, well, I mean, we can talk about it with our guesses, right? Yeah, let's do that. That was the post show for, yay, now we're going in the pre-show for Ubi. And if you had him ever caught a pre-show for us because you were too busy and you're catching this YouTube archive, this is what the pre-shows look like.
Starting point is 00:25:28 So, we made some guesses about UB, Greg. Both of us made one guess. Okay. I made a guess with five parts. You made a guess with one part. as is usually the case. Look how long in my columns are I can be able to your results. Oh, and the score has been updated. It's tightening. 3.92 to 2.5.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I'm like, you're pulling up away. Well, you've got a point with, yeah, but I'm doing like chip damage. You get bigger. So your guess for Ubi was best trailer according to Greg is an Ubiard game. Now that's a total bullshit prediction, but we're going to hold them to the honest.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Thank you. I'm going to be honest about it. So that's his prediction, and that's a very subjective opinion. But, and then my prediction for Ubisoft was that watchdogs too will be revealed. They'll obviously talk about it. They'll show a trailer and no release date. And it's next gen only.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So five parts. Greg also predicted that Rainbow 6 gets delayed. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. That already got confirmed. Yeah, it got a release date during a Microsoft thing. We have over here on the standby screen, Ubisoft, 2015 conference, getting ready to start shortly. We'll let you know, of course, we'll stop this when it happens.
Starting point is 00:26:33 So you'll be able to switch over. Like I said, still hosting With the only Twitch site that appears to be working, which is Twitch. On Twitch.com. Good. At least their streams working. But of course, you're on YouTube already. Feel free to click up on that big old YouTube E3 thing. Go watch Jeff Keely do his part of the show.
Starting point is 00:26:50 So, yeah, I mean, otherwise, I think UB is going to be exciting in the sense that they always, we were talking about with EA with Unravel. That's a very Ubisoft-Sty style game, I think. Yeah. In the sense that they don't only make those games. They make Tom Clancy. games in Assassin's Creed and Far Cry and all these games, but they do take risks on these smaller games, lots of them. They do it pretty incessantly. They usually have one or two in development
Starting point is 00:27:12 at any time. So I'm most excited and most interested to see if they are able to do that again. Yeah. Yeah, I want to see what Ubi's got up their sleeve. I want to see. I'd like to see, I know they did a little bit with the Tom Clancy game that did not get delayed, ruining my predictions. But I'd like to see more siege. I'd like to see more game play that. Last year it has such a great demo and they showed the airplane stuff today, which was cool, but it looks a little bit light. I'd like to see more of that. I want to see more of the division, right?
Starting point is 00:27:38 I imagine we see watchdogs, too. I wouldn't mind seeing a lot of that. So we're waiting. He says, Ubisoft, yeah. The show will start shortly. Two minutes. Hopefully they'll start promptly. I kind of got to pee, so I hope they start,
Starting point is 00:27:51 they start, you know, somewhat promptly. I mean, we could just stop. You want to just stop and go? We could all go pee. All right. Cut to that? Well, no, we're not cutting to anything. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:00 We can't host on YouTube. So once we end the, YouTube video, then that's the end of this gamescast breakout for you. You don't even have to edit. Ladies and gentlemen, that has been the kind of funny games cast. But real quick, while you're here on YouTube, because Twitch Brooks, subscribe to this channel.
Starting point is 00:28:12 We're close to $100,000 on this game channel. Yeah, and keep an eye on our Twitter feeds because we'll figure out if we, we'd like to go back to Twitch because we can host natively the streams there. And then we'll figure out what we're going to do moving forward. Hopefully, by the time Ubi's done in an hour, an hour and a half, this is all fixed.
Starting point is 00:28:27 If not, you know, I'm going to be pissed. We might be in both places because we're crazy like that. Damn, we fucking insane. We own the internet. Fredo knows. Fraydo knows. All right. You want to wrap it up?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, well, you guys wrap it up. I'm going to go over there and click you off. All right, cool. We say stuff about what we are and who we are. We are kind of funny. Right now, we're kind of funny games. We're at E3 2015. We're streaming all day long today.
Starting point is 00:28:49 We're doing every pre and post show for each conference. It's going to be crazy. We got Ubisoft coming up next and soon. Soon. We got Sony. Exciting.

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