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Episode Date: October 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:07 What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Tuesday, October 1st. We're getting spooky everybody, 2024. Of course, I'm your host, Tim Getty's. I'm joined by Blessing at Ae O. Jr. Good day, Tim. Andy Cortez. Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:21 And a very happy man, Greg Miller. Hello, Tim. It's me, Greg Miller. It's good to have you back from space. Yes, thank you. I want to, you know, I know you all took it in stride yesterday. Andy, I did hear you on the games cast talk about me throwing everyone out, being rude and saying I had to streams, shattered space by myself.
Starting point is 00:00:37 But I appreciate that you've welcomed me back into your arms. It was weird to go home last night and try to explain to Ben that I was in space all day. And then also talk to Jen of like, I was just a ghost in the office. I didn't talk to him. I haven't seen Tim in like a week. And I didn't talk to him until like 2 p.m. When I just said, hi, Tim, and I walked by. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I walked in. I saw you in your astronaut costume alone in the room. Yep. I didn't know what was going on. What a great snapshot of being a Starfield fan. And that's exactly what we're talking about today, everybody. We are going to be talking about. Starfield shattered space.
Starting point is 00:01:09 But before we get into that, of course, let me tell you, this is the kind of funny games cast where each and every weekday we get together to talk about everything you need to know about video games, reviews, previews, predictions, big topics. All of that is what you'll find right here live on Twitch and YouTube every single weekday. If you love what we do, please consider getting the kind of funny membership. You get every show we do ad free. You can watch live as we record it.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And also you get our daily exclusive Gregway. Today's Gregway is about what? It's about the documentary Mr. McMahon. Oh, wow. Am I in the Gregway? Yes. Yes, yes. Oh, no, fuck. I had a whole tech problem where my audio
Starting point is 00:01:50 didn't record. I'll put up the clip on Twitter of it'll be soundless, but it's me recording it and then going, what the fuck? And rather than go around the back of my car, Andy went up to the wall and Spider-Man over my car. It was very good. It's very good. Show that dumper. It's a big number off, everybody. It's Patreon content.
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Starting point is 00:02:20 So very, very much. Today we are brought to you by Shady Rays, but we'll tell you all about that later. A little housekeeping for you. Of course, we got Games Daily just happened, an amazing episode featuring Blessing and Andy with a surprise appearance. by Roger Percorney talking all about
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yakuza. There is he's a surprise here too. Whoa! You're running the show today, everyone. And then after this, Greg's going back to space. Are you putting back the costume? No, I don't think so. It's so cold in there. I got to, I mean, the great thing that would warm me up, but I don't want to take off the sweatshirt and put it on the whole thing. It's fine. You can adjust the AC thing.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I did that yesterday. I turned it off, and then Barrett came in and had like a conyption fit. He's like, it's so hot in here. Oh, God. Like, he thought the computer was going to melt. Maybe it would have. I don't know. But he turned it back on. It's really hot. It is really hot.
Starting point is 00:03:07 You do feel really chilly. See, what happens to me is it gets in my bones. It's the coldest space, man. Maybe it's called the death chilly. You remember it from Ghostbusters afterlife. No, God damn. Ghostbusters Frozen Empire.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Number one movie on Netflix. I think you'd get a mixed up. You know what I mean? Let's get to the topic of the show. Like I said earlier, it is Starfield Shattered Space. The expansion from Bethesda. Greg Miller, you've been playing
Starting point is 00:03:35 excessively. How many hours have you played this game? I beat, I would say rolled credits on the expansion, but there were no credits. But I beat the main quest of Shattered Space last night after about 10 hours. Okay. That was very, very much, I'm mainlining this. I'm not doing. There's tons of side stuff and I didn't really do it. How many more hours do you think you're going to be putting into this stuff? That is the million dollar question, Tim. It'll come into play, I think, when we start scoring and talking a little bit about it. Right now I'm planning on streaming it after this. Jump back in there
Starting point is 00:04:04 for another three hours before my dad arrives for Ben's birthday. And I'm going to be interested to see how much further it goes. But I wouldn't put it past that I stream again tomorrow as well, that there's that much content there. Because Starfield Shattered Space succeeds because it's getting back to doing what Bethesda does that the fans want Bethesda to do. This is a tailor-made planet. There's 50 unique points of interests on it.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It is all handmade. It isn't repeating the same assets. It isn't going, the thrill of going to another planet just to get there and find out, oh, it's the same exact layout of this other thing I've already been to, right? This is a planet that I've been on the entire time. I have not had to leave the planet. I left by my own accord to go buy bullets. I've never invested in any of my skill points in being up the craft. So when I was getting really low on bullets, I went off and did a quick supply run and came back.
Starting point is 00:04:55 But other than that, you can just be on this planet and live on this planet. And where I am after the main quest being done is, a very exciting place because I started doing one side mission last night and it started taking me all over the planet and immediately I'm running into zealots that have their own base that are now fighting phantoms. I'm hitting these other
Starting point is 00:05:15 people. This is happening over here. There's this organic fight between these monsters. I'm over. Oh, I've discovered a new location. That building looks cool and I'm having to fight what I would call the Starfield nature that has been built into me of that building looks cool. I know that it's not important unless
Starting point is 00:05:31 I get sent there. So I went into one yet. and just went into the bowels of this crimson fleet outposts they had and killed a bunch of stuff and got some cool things and yada, yada, but it was like, I didn't feel like I was wasting my time. So I'm very excited for this stream to be. Get in the Rev 8. We're going out there. We're going to just see what's out. Tamed the wildness, right? Like get back to what made Fallout 3, Skyrim, so important, so special of. That looks cool. I'm going to go over there and find out what that is. And I was popping new locations driving around today. So I stopped and put it down. So you be the main quest. Yeah. Bless and Andy. of you interested in giving Shattered Space a shot? I mean, for me, it might depend on what Greg has to say next. Sure. Of like, is it good? Is it excellent? Is it amazing? Or is it just more Starfield? I've been curious to go back to it. I've kind of wanted to go back to what was it called
Starting point is 00:06:19 shattered space. Just because like I like a Bethesda RPG and the idea of it all taking place in one planet, it being one location as opposed to like it being the thing that I didn't love about the game, which is getting into a menu. All right, let's fly to this planet. All right. Yeah, okay, this planet looks like the other planet. All right, let's go to the thing. Get back to it. It being so menu-focused was one of the things that really took me out of it. I was really into the idea of it, yeah, taking place in one place,
Starting point is 00:06:44 and it having that aspect of walking in a direction, seeing a thing, maybe coming across something cool, and it feeling like more of an open world than what the actual Starfield, like, open space tends to be. For sure. Andy. I think we're just too packed with too many games. And even now looking at the stuff that,
Starting point is 00:07:03 we have embargoes on and even the non-embarkoed stuff, it's like there's stuff that I just will not be able to get to, unfortunately. So I think maybe at the end of the year, if there's like that sort of miracle stretch of a week where I'm like, oh, I can actually put time into this because I really enjoyed Starfield for what it was, and I had a good time with it even flaws in all, right? But, yeah, I'm kind of with Blesser, like,
Starting point is 00:07:28 if this is an absolute banger, I may not be able to miss it. So Greg Miller, we go back to you. What do you give Shattered Space on the kind of funny scale? Well, what I think is interesting is you have to go back and do a little experiment, thought experiment, right? We launched Starfield when we still had the five-point review scale, at which point we only did the lead reviewer thing too. Andy and I abstained at the time of voting because we were both enjoying it but wanted more out of it.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I just started my first new game plus. Paris gave it a four out of five. I said that I was having a four-to-five great time with it at the time, but what would that translate to in a final score? What would that mean in our new scale? scale, right? So I think to bring everything into 2024, I think when Starfield launched, I loved it, as everybody knows. I have, maybe you don't. I love Starfield. It was your game of the year. Game of the year, despite all of its many flaws, but it's a game that touched me in a way
Starting point is 00:08:18 no RPG has before. Like, this is my favorite Bethesda RPG, which I know is crazy, because I love Fallout and I know how good Skyrim is I played it, but it just, I don't love that world. Something about the characters here they did and the things they actually nailed when I talk about how much I like gunplay or how much I just like the moment to moment gameplay, outweighs all of its flaws. However, if we would have had this scale that we have right now for the kind of funny review scale, I would have given Vanilla Starfield when it launched probably a seven, right? It would be good.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, it's right on the cusp of being maybe okay, but I think, again, for as much as I like, I like it to say it's good. Maybe I'm having a great time with it, but visuals are this, that day, you know, you get into all that thing. I think when you then look at Starfield in the work they've put in since launch, mainly being the big patch they put out, followed by the Rev 8 and the launch of creations, right, mods. I would say Starfield, as somebody who continued to play it,
Starting point is 00:09:13 I would say it probably got to a 7-5 there. Because, again, if you're not, there's so many things not to like about Starfield, but in terms of loading, in terms of carrying capacity, in terms of being close to your ship, enemy combat damage, like, they've gone in and given you so many options to go in and tweak under the hood to, really make it your RPG.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So then to get to Shattered Space, having finished the campaign, I think Shattered Space, the campaign isn't eight. I think it's great. I think it's great. This is the best Starfield's ever been. I hope, and I imagine based on this, Bethesda has the message, understands loud and clear what people want from this. They want them to go in and have a tailored experience that has a whole bunch of different
Starting point is 00:09:50 quest for you to role play in and have your agency matter. I think that is something that, obviously, in Vanilla Starfield, there are. are choices to be made, many. But I don't think the side quests did that as well. Side quests really did become, all right, yeah, go over there and clear this place out and get this McGuffin and bring it back to me. Okay, go do this, clear that thing.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Did you get this piece? It didn't feel like in the moment to moment you were doing it. Shattered space makes the moment to moment feel like it matters just for coloring in your expectations, your experiences, your relationships. This is where the fan in me, I'm stifling at the moment. I think Shattered Space is an 8.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I think it's great. If we get out into that open world today and we really tear it up and we're going around and there is something popping off that might move it to an 8-5 in my opinion. Could it take it down? No, because I think already
Starting point is 00:10:42 what I've had out of it is great. So if they're delivering on that, that's great. For me, it's more how much does it matter? Is it when I started running into cool buildings when I was tinkering before this review and I was like, I'm just going to stop because I want to be on camera for this
Starting point is 00:10:55 and I want to do it. So when I see a building and I discover a new location. If I go all the way in there and get to the bottom and nothing happens, and then three hours later I get, oh, you got to go here and get that thing for me at the bottom. And I was like, okay, well, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:11:07 That that location only exists to serve this quest, but I didn't have that quest, so I didn't do it, right? That's a breaker for me where I want there to be locations that mean nothing that are cool to go into and that's all they're there for. That's what I'm looking for because that's kind of what the real world
Starting point is 00:11:19 would be like, right, if we were doing this. I don't think it can bring it down because that wouldn't bring it down for me. It's just like, okay, that's what Starfield is. Again, I sat on the original review way back in the day a year ago, right? Starfield is, I think, in my career, the biggest your mileage will vary game. What do you care about in an RPG? What do you care about?
Starting point is 00:11:37 What are you willing to forgive because you love this part of it? And vice versa. For me, I've waxed on and on and on and on about Starfield on many different platforms and I'll condense all that here so people have a starting point for me. But like, Starfield gets so much right. And again, like, as I said on the initial review and that only, only follow through with the spoiler cast where I did an hour long one man spoiler cast talking about everything happened like I roll playing this game in a way I've never role played in a video
Starting point is 00:12:03 game before and that is still the case with shattered space where on the end of shattered space today the first thing we're going to do when we start up the stream is go around and tool around but eventually we got to go in to the city we got to get a tattoo on our face you know what I mean like that's what this whole their whole culture here on this planet that's what they've done I've assimilated to it I don't believe in your snake god but I had a great time here here and I really feel like this is part of the DNA of my character now. Serpent Society, then. Of course.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Alma surfed him. Alma surf. That's what I hear. The Great Serpent. So I think this is an eight. I think this is great. It's got a possibility as we, is like playing more and we update later.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Maybe I would go to an 8-5, but probably going to stay there. You have an extremely unique experience with Starfield. Correct. I listened to that podcast. It was great and I didn't get anywhere close to any of the new game plus seven or whatever it is and how far you got into it. And with mine, I never got to the end game because I didn't
Starting point is 00:13:00 want that world for just my space cowboy. I didn't want this otherworldly sort of cosmic thing. I just wanted to be a little space cowboy dude. How do you think that this DLC story affects somebody like you who's six
Starting point is 00:13:15 new game plus is in or whatever versus somebody who maybe just beat the game once? Like are are we talking about like big world-changing differences. No, and I don't think that's what it was designed for, and I'm happy they didn't go for that. I think when we got on the other end,
Starting point is 00:13:31 spoilers for the end of Starfield in a very small sense, right? Well, I guess actually a major sense, but at this point, you either care or don't care, right? Starfield is about your journey through, you find out your star-born, you can go through the unity, which jumps you to a different universe where you then can relive your life or make all your changes, but you're still your same character, same XP.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I love it because it is literally the video game version of Groundhog Day. And you have the choice of you don't have to go through you. You can stay in your universe. And so my personal story in the spoiler cast you're talking about is that, you know, I fell in love with Andragea. A bug actually led to her being dead and I couldn't save her. So when this opportunity presented self, I went through the unity. And then I was like, well, I'm reviewing it.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I want to go through again. Then I got a crazy difference. Like you can go through and get completely different worlds. I got a different world. I went through again. I got a completely different world. And then I finally went through and got a very normal world. And I was like, this will be the one I make my home in New Game Plus 5,
Starting point is 00:14:22 which is what I Which is what I had always said I put it down there And I went under other reviews And did a million other things And I was like This is gonna be the one I come back to To Mary Andresia
Starting point is 00:14:32 Start a Life and then do all the DLC in And that's exactly what I did You know I felt when they put in the 60 frames again When they put in the Rev 8 I've been just lost to Starfield in general right I put in my final count hours So far I should say Yeah I'm four days and 13 hours into Starfield
Starting point is 00:14:48 That's 109 hours Now that's what the game clock says That's not when I've gotten to a game-breaking thing and had a reload a save or something else happened and it crashed, you know, blah-b-b-boss. I think you're well into 115, probably lifetime, but whatever. That's all, again, the character of what I'm doing
Starting point is 00:15:05 and how I'm playing and what about. To get to this point to answer your question, I apologize for the ramble. I appreciate the apology. Anytime, buddy. When we get here and we were pitching what expansions should be, I was really wondering, like, wow,
Starting point is 00:15:18 are they going to do stuff that is dependent on new game plus, which I think is one of the coolest aspects of the game, but so few people ever got to or touched, right? I legitimately think it's one of the coolest new game plus mechanics in gaming, period, but I just never wanted to get there. Totally. I'm happy they didn't and they put this in here. I love the fact that, like, I'm a dork, obviously, for this game,
Starting point is 00:15:40 but like when I was doing something in there earlier today and I was loading it up, like someone made a comment to me and just a casual after the fact conversation, right? and one of the choices that popped up, you get different dialogue options based on your background and what your skills are, yeah. But once you've gone through the unity and you're hip to the game,
Starting point is 00:15:57 you have a whole slew of things that pop up that are Starborn labeled, where somebody will be like, they'll try to start setting up the quest you've already done. And you can be like, I've done this before. It's over there, right? And they're like, yeah, how did you know? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:08 You'll get the thing. Again, Groundhog Day, right? But this time, obviously, I've never done this before. So I was like, is there going to be a game-breaking immersion thing in there where they're saying stuff and I'm getting that out.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And I didn't. but I did get options in there that were like, they're like, oh man, great serpent, you know, blah. And there's like one starboard, probably like, you'd be surprised how many ways there are to ascend to a higher plane or some shit like that, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:30 alluding that I know more. And there was one throwaway line, I think I had to do an injurager this morning that was similar to it. I was just like, well, because I haven't told her. This is my secret from her. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:16:39 But again. She doesn't know you're, you've done multiple universes. Dude, this is all started. Oh, no. New game plus two when I showed up. I walked through the front door. Relationships are building.
Starting point is 00:16:49 on honesty. I'm fucked up. No, stick with me. Let me go for a second. New Game Plus 2, I walked through the front door and I was like, hey, everybody, it's me, Becky Lynch, and I've fucking done all this before
Starting point is 00:17:00 and I can do all this shit. And the way people reacted and treated me, that was when I was like, I can't do this. Because I started playing New Game Plus 2 is my real game. And I was like, no. And that's when I jumped through the unity,
Starting point is 00:17:11 came out and it was a weird world. Came out, it was a weird world on four. Came out in five and it was normal world. And I was like, I walked in and they were like, oh you're the thing all this crazy shits happen and I was like yeah daggum I don't know anything about that
Starting point is 00:17:23 and then I replayed the entire campaign as a starboard doing the same stuff I had done before but now having this option of being like yeah can you leave the room listen motherfucker I know it was you but this led to like so many again I've talked about this in other shows but like so many permutations of again
Starting point is 00:17:39 why I love this game so much is because at points it feels like it's being written for me right because again in my world in my head canon and the game's canon I've gone through this fifth time hold on let me just finish this one thing can you hold on this great comment yeah okay go ahead doing it's from Tyler asking
Starting point is 00:17:55 what is this weird world mean and I want you to get back to what a weird world when you start new game plus and it's weird so this new game plus five again I'm like oh man I don't know anything about this or whatever and occasionally I call out little things like that people would be like how did you know that it's like oh whatever but there was an amazing moment
Starting point is 00:18:12 that I love so much that Barrett put up screenshots of when we had this conversation recently about Starfield. It might have been a games daily, I think, right? But it was this idea of the emissary and Hunter show up the bad guys from every new, from every game, right? They show up and they confront
Starting point is 00:18:29 me and I immediately throw it back in their face of it. I know what the fuck's going on, yada, yada, yada. And then they pulled out the they did the line of like, wait a second, you're starborn and you're reliving your old life. Like they called me out on the fact of I'm doing the story again. Like rather than tell everyone the truth, I'm doing the whole thing
Starting point is 00:18:46 again. I'm like, I had my fucking reason. Shut up. It is. And I was like, shut up. And I think they even said something or I said something of, oh yeah, one of my choices that I chose totally was like, I made mistakes in my past life and I'm gonna fix him here. Like, you know what I mean? And it's like, I love this shit because it's so nerdy, but also because I know that I'm riding that razor's edge of like, I'm fucking the villain. I could easily be the villain of this story, right?
Starting point is 00:19:07 If anything goes wrong, fuck it, we're running it again. Go through the unity. I'm not talking to that. You know what I mean? Like, I love that pushing. It's an army man being like, we outlive these people. Yeah, exactly. But here's the, this is another moment where I was like, fuck, when this game is great, it's great. So I have that conversation with the Starborn, right? And in my ship, we're coming back from a quest,
Starting point is 00:19:27 is this guy Walter, who's like the guy who funds Constellation, he's the old man. Right, right, yeah. Kind of, I never connected with him, never really had any moments with him. We have the conversation. I have with the Starborn. And then immediately in my ship, Walter's like,
Starting point is 00:19:39 what the fuck was that? And I'm like, and there's a whole bunch of options and I keep lying, but I, like, I was like, there's things about me that are different. he's like, hey, you just saved my life a second ago. So it's cool. I'll keep your seat. I'm like, this is so cool because then it was like, is there a possibility this ever does
Starting point is 00:19:55 blow up in my face where I say something in front of Andresia? And she's like, wait, what the fuck? And then I call it. You know what I mean? Like it all dominoes out from that. Just fucking so good. But it hasn't happened. Married Andresia.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Again, Andresia's whole thing from the game is that she's from House of Aroon, which is whose DLC this is all about. We're going to her home planet, right? but again why this everybody else is super hot but again why this entire Starfield story and I mean
Starting point is 00:20:24 the real story of Starfield feels like it's Taylor made for me and you all live in my universe I'm sorry is that you know andrej is my whole thread to replay this game to do all this stuff maker my wife we love each other
Starting point is 00:20:35 we do that and then it is this idea right of like she's from House Faroon so in our story in our relationship as it progresses this is all without the DLC. This is vanilla game, right? It is the fact of her telling me about her home. Her home, you know, like, they're, they are
Starting point is 00:20:51 fucking crazy religious psychos, right? Of, like, her thing is that, you know, she gets dropped off from her planet. She's never allowed to go back. I can fix her, you know. She's there. She was there to, you know, do undercover work, to report back to help them take over the galaxy eventually or whatever, but then she falls in love with Constellation. She falls in love with me.
Starting point is 00:21:08 We have these, like, real conversations where she's like, I don't know what to do with this because you don't believe in my religion. And I believe there's a great. serpent that's going to come back and enshroud all of space and I'll be saved and you won't be saved. And it's like, if we want to pull out the great serpent, put your God, your deity that you believe it in there. And it's like, wow, this is actually a pretty cutting take on her in a religion marriage of an atheist that I don't believe in your serpent. I've gone through the fucking unity. You know what is like, but you're having a thing. So then for this DLC to be
Starting point is 00:21:36 cool, you're, you have to go to her planet. You have to bring her. It's like, wow. Like what for so much of it to be pulled from what I care about that game and have it. be the first ELC is crazy I think. Yeah. That's super, no, I love this. If you guys have any questions, get your super chats in on YouTube, and we will get to those. I can go through all my points if you want, because I got plenty. You got super chats. You got what I let you know, because I have, I put a bunch of different bullet points, all right?
Starting point is 00:22:00 So Starfield shattered space. It's a story. It's alive. It's beautiful. It's still Starfield. So those are the four. I like that a lot. I want to talk about the go for it.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah, I just want to say, without getting too spoilery to just to get back the Tyler of 1700's question in the YouTube chat. What does it mean by When I started in New Game Plus I walked in and it was a weird world So I have never Actually pulled the curtain back Because me and Paul Tassie at review
Starting point is 00:22:26 We're going back and forth It was like wait what the fuck did this And we were all We were having different things There's a random chance when you go through The Unity and come out in New Game Plus You go back to Constellation Which is the HQ of the group you're in right
Starting point is 00:22:38 And usually what would happen is You open the door Sarah's there Vasco's there They go oh who are you oh, I'm whoever I am. You're that minor that disappeared because you started as a minor on the operation in the very first game, right?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Or very first, yeah, your first play-through. And then you choose if you're going to tell them you're Starborn, you're tell them if you're just here and do the whole thing. But there is a RNG chance that you throw open the doors and weird shit is happening. So the first time I ever did it, I threw open the doors and, I'm sorry, not the first The first weird ending I ever got. I threw up in the doors and an adult Cora was there.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Cora is a child in the game of Sam Coe, who's one of your companions. She'll be on your ship because it's like father and daughter thing, but she's small. This was, you threw open the doors and it's her with like an elite force of just guys in machine guns in black. And she was like, I'm here to fucking kill you
Starting point is 00:23:30 for killing my father and dot da, da, da, da, da. And it's like one of those things of like, you can fight and get your ass kick probably. But I was like, I'm not that. She's like, holy shit, you're not even the right. This is, you're not even the person from this universe that did this, oh, fuck. All right. Everybody were out and they disappeared kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And so then it is for me to go get the artifacts to go back through the unity, right? This is where it gets fuzzy. You have to go watch my spoiler cast because I've noticed I start conflating what happened to Paul, what happened to me, what I've seen on subreddits. I think it was Paul's, but I'm going to use it because I can't remember my second one for some reason. But he went in and all of Constellation was children. It was the same people, but they were all kids.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And it was like, what the fuck? I've seen it online where you come in and they're plants. They're literally house plants or whatever with the name bars on it. The game just gets fucking weird with what's going to happen as a fun thing for you of like, here's the multiverse. Now, an amazing concept that I understand video games to some degree development, right? It's an amazing concept that isn't fully fleshed out. Like this is, it is awesome and it builds for the story and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:34 but like the fact that even on my next point when I get to a somewhat normal universe or whatever I'm saying it's the same universe it's the same thing like I think it would have been they don't change I think change color palace change character models change whatever right like even the house plants or the children that's just constellation outside of it everybody's still the same people everything's it's like everybody's a plant universe so cool everybody was a plant right so it's like and it's the way they've designed the story of like even if you do that you still have to get the artifacts to get to the unity to do all this so it's like it's cool cool, but it is like one of those things of like you like, also the fact that it's random.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I think now there's mods in the creation hub that you can go and like up your chance of getting a crazy one or whatever. But it's a nice touch and it's a good layering and I like, you know, for me it was really fun of like, I just want to get to a normal universe and I'd go through like, oh fuck it's crazy. Oh fuck it's crazy. Okay, it's cool. Now I'm normal. But also I think there's plenty of people who probably did a new game plus and this is
Starting point is 00:25:25 granted where a year out, everybody knows, but did a new game plus started in and then never knew that there was cool shit. So like, why would you do it again? So many people I've seen are pissed off that they go through and they lose a all their money, they lose all their guns. Like you, you know, you keep your XP, you keep that. You get a really cool ship, a really cool outfit, I think. But like, you know, and that changes and goes as well, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:25:44 What a game. What a game indeed. Hearing you talk about it, just like, this is crazy. We're going to keep talking about it. Please get all of your YouTube super chats in, but we're going to get to those. Before you, I give one thing. It's not worth doing, but in terms of like how fucking, like, I don't consume games this way, and I don't feel about this games.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Andrei Genme, like, right, we finally confess our love. Because in my first game where she died, we never even got the chance to. And it was the whole thing and blah, blah. And people have brought this up like, your love for this game is based on a bug. That's weird, right? And I'm like, yes and no. I would have gone through the unity no matter what and we wouldn't have been married. So I would have, I think, been on the same journey of I need to get back and have the perfect life.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Anyways, we get there. We confess our love. You know, you still have to build up your companion trust or whatever. She needs to think about it. eventually she invites me to her to a planet right on the planet is basically you walk up and it's like a grave it's just like a like you know disturbed dirt on this planet surface and you walk i walk over there with her and she gives this whole speech about like you know her love and what this planet is this is where she woke up when she you know got dropped off by them and all the stuff and so one of the things
Starting point is 00:26:52 is that you have these when you're on her planet you have these creatures called groats that you raise from birth and you name and they're your companion the yada yada and then when it's time for your like ceremony, you kill the groat and you use part of his bone to make this fucking badass knife or whatever. And she's like, when I got, you keep it with you at all times. When I got here to, you know, go undercover, I bury it here. So I'm giving you this groat knife as a symbol of our love. And I was like, this is so fucking cool. To the point. Then I get on, I'm fighting other people. Like when we first showed up and I was like, fighting people and like they had the, it's a groin knife. And then I met groats on this
Starting point is 00:27:27 deal. So like, I'm fucking insane. This is so cool. Like, what a fucking nerd. What a fucking dork! I needed this groat knife. I needed to see it. I needed to see it with my own eyes and I saw everything. Jessica Hinkle, Super Chatsin saying, I love the way that you love games,
Starting point is 00:27:42 Greg Miller. So yeah. I'm a special person. And again, and I know we're getting to that. Sorry, but like it's so crazy that I'm not alone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Being a Starfield subreddit user and then seeing the people who just like, you know, I'm like, oh, I got a hundred hours in. And like, I'm 100 hours in like level 64 right now at the end of the DLC. I was seeing screenshots from people who are,
Starting point is 00:28:01 level 287. Oh, I have 12 days in the game. I'm like, good Lord. Yeah, I love it. My favorite is this screenshot I got from Greg about a week ago. That's from the no sodium Starfield Reddit, which I assume is no, like,
Starting point is 00:28:18 no salt. It's a Starfield Reddit where you can't be salty. Yeah, yeah. And it says, level one just started. And I'm going to say this is one of the best games I've ever played already. All caps. That would crack me off.
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Starting point is 00:29:26 shades. Try for yourself the shades rated five stars by over 300,000 people. That's Shadyrays.com and use code kind of funny for 50% off two or more pairs of shades. So Greg, the last couple of weeks I've been hearing you and Andy talk about playing Starfield in different ways. You're asking him about all these PC things. And I'm very interested in how you've been playing this game. Sure. And how it relates to how you, because I know you, Starfield, very much a cloud device type situation.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Oh, right? Like, I feel like the majority of your time of Starfield is. No, majority has been in fact I mean of my hundred hours Has been on the TV Do it there I do do a lot of Steam deck You know I've been using that XB play
Starting point is 00:30:10 So I do stream it there on Steam deck Once in a while But I would say if you're looking at like a pie chart It would still be dominated by TV Were you playing in Shired Space on PC No, played it on Xbox Series X Here in the streaming room And then even last night when I got downstairs
Starting point is 00:30:24 Just left it on that I had Andy walk me through Setting up the PC After our conversations about Dragon Age where I'm like, I might have to play a veil guard on a PC since it looks so good at the event. And I would want that on my Steam deck and it's verified or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:38 So Andy had walked me through setting up Starfield on PC. We got it up. We got it going. It looked good, great, whatever, but it wasn't enough of a change. It wasn't the crazy RTX on thing that it was like, I was like, I see it, but I still like the convenience
Starting point is 00:30:52 of popping on the system, remote playing to the system. And I know I can do all this, but like it's what I know. It's easier to get in and do it that way. So no, I stuck to the series X on this one. What do you think of the graphics of this game?
Starting point is 00:31:03 It is a mixed bag. And I want to say graphics performance-wise. Granted, yesterday was launch day. It's a Bethesda launch. There's all manner of things on the subreddit right now on the Starfield one of like, Andreja doesn't have a head. I can't load this. I didn't have any problems to that degree.
Starting point is 00:31:19 But streaming, I usually run it in performance mode, right? When we were playing yesterday, I noticed it chugging and getting framey at certain parts. And so somebody was like, well, we should try putting in visuals and, you know, Target 60. I did that. It looked sharp or whatever. It's day one, still 24 hours or whatever. I'm not trying to let them off the hook for it. I don't care that much. Like it's never been so like stuttery like whatever, but I noticed, oh, this isn't 60 and I'm not that guy, right? Where it is like, okay, cool. This is a closer to a 30 experience or whatever. And I've noticed like when you're inside environments, way better than when you're out in the open world of the Roon Kai, right? But what I did, what I would describe it as if you were to ask me is I would call it beautiful. Like, I think this game, Andy, like,
Starting point is 00:32:01 I know you have a million things to play in a million other things. If you want to start throwing up screenshots I sent you that I made in photo mode, like this is a game with a color palette designed for Andy, right? Like the planet is pink. It is purple. It is this haze of neon throughout casting shade like this on everything. So yeah, here's me and Andrea Rocket in the Rev 8.
Starting point is 00:32:21 No big deal. There's her jumping out of it. Look at that. She's having a great time. She can go kill somebody right there. You know what I mean? She can use a groat and stuff. knife. No, I have it. Oh, you have it. That's my symbol of, we don't have rings. We're not a ring
Starting point is 00:32:34 group. That's not what we're about. You know what I mean? There's no big ceremony. We didn't have like, you know, the whole, we didn't dance. I got the groat knife and I had fun with it. I saw chat earlier that was like, how does Jen feel about Indraja? I mean, Jen, I think anytime I start talking about Starfield rolls her eyes, so she doesn't have to worry about what's going on over here. You know what I mean? It's also Becky Lynch falling in love with Andrea. That's a good point. That's a very good point. But yeah, I think it is gorgeous. I think the environment. environments are really detailed. Again, one of the big things about this that they get away that I think makes it stand out is the fact like I said earlier, like so much of it is custom. It doesn't look like the vanilla Starfield game, right? Which is something we talk so much about playing Starfield is that everything looks the same. So sterile, so whatever. You don't have this. They're using these colors. You know, they're using a lot of that like electric blue. That's what the vortex people look like that you're these ghosts you're fighting. The first section you're in, you get to it, you know, this derelict space station that's sent out. a distress signal and you start working your way through it and it is filled with these
Starting point is 00:33:33 phantoms. It's filled this blue light, this neon blue rock that can teleport you away. You see the neon blue here surrounding the scaled citadel. They're doing a lot of stuff that's very visually impressive here in terms of color palette. In terms of detail on the graphics, like again, inside there'd be yesterday playing on the stream like, holy shit, this looks great. You know what I mean? Like actually having those moments of, wow, this looks fantastic. But they had some of the best interior lighting. Yeah. You are having
Starting point is 00:34:00 performance issues here and there, but again, not enough that I'm going to knock it overall for it. Something to call out.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Yeah. Story wise, you into it? Oh yeah. Of course. I think, you know, again,
Starting point is 00:34:12 like the story itself is interesting enough, right? So as you saw there, the scaled citadel all by itself with this blue dome around it, right?
Starting point is 00:34:20 They were doing some kind of crazy experiment with grab drives. They blew up their own major city. People have been teleported away. They've disappeared. This is the whole thing with this space station we find, right?
Starting point is 00:34:32 It's not supposed to be where it is. It got caught up in this blast. It's been put out there. So you have this story that is the main story. Like I said, that was one of the grope knives that I was talking about, right? But then you have this planet, this closed society really reeling from this gone wrong. We get there just a few weeks after it's happened. And again, that falls into my, it's a live category. Where you're talking. to people who, like, there's just side conversations of people being like they're missing their wife. You know, you go in to a main quest,
Starting point is 00:35:04 or maybe it wasn't a main quest, probably doesn't main quest, but you walk through like an infirmary and somebody screaming at the clerk who's working it, right? And I was like, oh, this is going to lead to a mission. I'm going to give her medical supplies. So I stayed and listened to the whole argument. And then when she started to walk away, I walked over to her, couldn't do anything to her,
Starting point is 00:35:18 couldn't do anything to the guy. I was like, oh, this is just world building. Again, what I think was lacking so much in Starfield, right? Again, of like, I'd land on a planet. I would go to the thing. I would go back to my ship. I would go back to wherever to turn it in. Whereas having it all here and running through the streets and hearing conversation,
Starting point is 00:35:34 you know, I at one point early on, boost packed all the way up to the top of this hill because I was going to go over the fence to go down to my ship or whatever. And I got up there and there was just a dude talking to two children on the ground, telling them the history of House Varroon and what the great crusade was and all this stuff. And I sat and listened again,
Starting point is 00:35:54 waiting for side mission to pop up. You've accepted this thing. this book and it never did. It was just these are these people, they're learning about their culture. Like you get back to me wanting the tattoos on my face, right? Like, everybody who lives on the planet who I guess doesn't go out like Andresia did because she's a spy
Starting point is 00:36:09 has like these really cool tattoos all over their face and I'm like, damn, like, that's a really nice touch. And I like that and I think what's interesting about this DLC right now is expansion. I don't want to leave it. I don't want to leave this planet. Like I love Starfield and I love going off and doing all the stuff and I've
Starting point is 00:36:27 I have a quest log filled with shit to go do. But I want to stay on this place as long as possible. And I do really feel like when I've squeezed every drop out of it, it'll be the part where I put down Starfield until there's the next big patch that adds whatever, it does whatever. So what is that? What's what? The next big patch.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Like this is the- So much to fix in Starfield. Well, yeah, so this is the first big major expansion. Is there going to be another major expansion? They always say their first expansion. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:56 So you wouldn't say your first, if it was the only, I feel like. So, yeah, I have, I chat, please correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't seen anything out there. I think I want to see, yeah, I want to say even when Todd was on our show, he mentioned multiple that they were working on, but I don't know. But I definitely don't think they're walking away from it anytime soon. You assume that, like, what's happening here, right, is they're building to the next big
Starting point is 00:37:18 expansion. Like, I don't know when you commit to saying, here's the complete edition. Let's put it on PlayStation. Like, I feel like that's a foregone conclusion that's going to happen with Xbox's M.O. But I also don't know how committed they are to this for how long. But I saw somebody leave a comment saying that
Starting point is 00:37:34 there are two new guns and no new ship parts and that's pretty disappointing to me. Did you feel any disappointment with expecting more weapons? Because I saw you rocking that auto shoddy quite a bit, which is one that I loved back in the day as well.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Were there things that you were I guess looking back on it and now realizing, oh wow, we didn't get a whole lot of this new item or I expected this to be kind of updated and getting more of whatever part like ship parts to me where a big reason why I played and enjoyed a lot of Starfield so that's so I think that's one of the ones to dissect right if you go back like I did today and let's six new weapons sorry listen to our review right of Starfield
Starting point is 00:38:15 the initial one one of the things we talk about for Vanilla Starfield is how all of us got involved in different things like right oh I was doing outposts and he was customizing ships Paris was X, Y, and Z, right? Like, back to it all varying, and it's going to, you know, matter how much you want out of it. This one doubles down and does what I want. I've never been into outposts. It gives you new, you can now use house for ruined parts in your outposts.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I don't give a shit. I'm never going to do that, right? I never customized my ship, let alone the fact that I love the ship, again, for who I am. Like, the ship I have right now, my Starborn Guardian ship, right? Five, because you get one every time you go through. It's just such a nice ship. that I stopped. I never shipped build and I never would, right? So it's not a thing for me. I can totally see those. My complaint would be, I've seen, this is another one of like,
Starting point is 00:39:06 a lot of scuttle butt in the Starfield community, right? I'm giving you breaking news, right? Dirt sheets of like, this is Andrage's home planet. She hasn't, she never thought she would lay eyes on it again. There's a lot of people being like, oh, man, she's not even talking about it. And then people be like, no, she talks about it. You might have this bug that I heard about with this perk, so now she's not doing it. She talks about it. She talks about it. with me. She has talked about it when we got there. There was a moment on the ship where she's like, that symbol, this can't be. That said, I still would have loved more. I would have loved to been able to use Andresia as a sounding board for ideas because there's a bunch of different
Starting point is 00:39:43 choices in there they ask me to make. And I would have loved to be able to turn to her and be like, well, you know what I mean? But you don't get that level of it. However, there is enough in there that I'm not disappointed. I just would have loved more from it because of I'm the story guy. I'm apparently the lore guy of Starfield, right? Iron and says, damn, I was wondering about that today. She's barely said it worse since we got there. Yeah, I don't understand. I don't know what the actual bug is.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I'm not sure if they've actually targeted, right? But yeah, there is something going on where some people are not getting it. Where, no, I had it on her talking on the ship. When we got there, when we, there was, again, I think it might even have been right around. When I was wandering around and I ran into the session
Starting point is 00:40:17 of people talk, the teaching session, there was another thing where we walked over and she was like, oh my God, I've never I've never been able to see the Citadel this clearly usually there's so many buildings here because the way the explosion happened that you know teleported everything away or whatever
Starting point is 00:40:32 so it's there and then even right now huge boon and but it's still Starfield when I was tinkering before the show running around on the side mission I got the thing I love which is hey when you get the moment can I talk to you I was like pull the ship over in the middle
Starting point is 00:40:49 of nowhere climb up start the conversation and it was the conversation of, hey, thank you for saving my people. And then we went through all the decisions I made. And I'm like, do you think I made the right choice? And we're going back and forth, going back and forth. And I pick, I'm fucking loving. I'm like, this is so good. Starfield's so great when it's great. And I picked one option. And she finished her thing. And then the camera just hung on her. And like, and like, none of my dialogue choices popped up to continue the conversation. And it was like, okay? She's like, cat got your tongue. And I'm like, well, I can't. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:41:17 you pause. And I come back. I'm like, all right, fucking reload the save, lose that five minutes or whatever it was to go back. And I'm like, you know what? We'll save that conversation for the stream today. We'll go have that conversation with you there. But yeah, that's like part of the whole thing of like it gets it so right in it. Then it's still Starfield. And I think that's the biggest thing about it. Blessing, I know how busy you are. I would really, really love for you to touch it this week and see if it does anything for you. Because I think being on the planet is so good. And I think, you know, one of my bullet points here is it's alive. And again, with the folks happening over here. You know, you're going over. One of the ones I put on my bulletpoints, I was on the side
Starting point is 00:41:54 mission I'm on right now when we start the stream today is these scientists, you know, put up a posting for help, wanted or whatever. I've gone out. I've picked it up. I need to go collect samples off of dead creatures, right? And when I was out there, roaming the countryside, which in normal, like, when they introduced the revate, the vehicle you get to drive, right? Everybody's like, yeah, and I'm like, why? Like, I got off my ship. I would run to whatever I needed to do, run back to the ship, and then go. There's nothing. I don't think there's much to explore on these planets. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I'm using this because everything's on this planet, so it's chock full of shit to do. I'm over there. I'm running around. And at one point... It's not just procedural outposts out there or whatever, yeah. I'm driving, driving, and they're like, oh, there's a, you know, loot over there in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's interesting. Drive over there at Mindfield. But the rev eight gets flipped out over there. I was like, fuck, that's awesome. Like, I mean, it's so small, but it's like, wow, that's cool. And like, I was talking earlier with the random encounters and this, that the other. But even beyond that, like, I think so many people are going to talk about this side mission you get in the very beginning where we enter in to Vruen Kai
Starting point is 00:42:54 the planet right I'm going into the capital or whatever and as I'm going there's this argument over here by a statue I walk over I listen in it's two brothers arguing with a third person there it ends and like you can talk to them and then engage in the quest and yada da da da da da and I talked about this on the stream but like you know great acting like one of the complaints we had uh in the initial review for Starfield was that the VO can be amazing the performances can be great And then they can also be like, they grab the UPS guy and asked him to record lines. None of that here. Everybody's performance is on point.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Everybody's delivering. Slapy, get in here. Come record a line. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, get it. Come on. But like this thing is, you know, these two brothers who are fighting, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:34 their parents are gone. They're there. It's, you know, I think a very relatable story of one deals with alcoholism, right? And a drug addiction is, you know, pawning off all their stuff. Is being a shitty brother. What do you do with that? Of course, it escalates into all these, you know, different things. and you have to try to talk them both down.
Starting point is 00:43:50 They're going to have a duel. What do you want to, you know, how do you want to try to defuse it? Do you not want to help? And again, performances are great. I'm enjoying just talking to them because that's what this game is. And then at the end when it's like, you know, the third party got involved. And it was like, hey, we both know this is stupid. Like, I'm going to give you this thing.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Your role in all of this is to get the ceremonial cups ready. You can tranquilize them. I'll give you an agent that could knock them out. I'm like, well, it'd be safe. And like, yeah, probably. And it's like, do you get there. And there's four choices to make off of this one, this one side. I was like, cool, what do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm like, that's what I want out of these kind of games. I want that agency to then see how it plays out. There's a later one that's a main quest. It's like, well, do you want to do this thing or do you want to do this thing? If you do this thing, you protect, you know, yourself and a whole bunch of different people. But if you do this thing, it might be better for you, but it's going to be worse for people up. And like, yeah, yeah, give me all of that. And I'm excited to see as we play more today and tomorrow, if more of those side quests are
Starting point is 00:44:44 happening out that way, right? And even the main quest is mainly like, all right, cool, we have, even though it's all House of A Roon, there's three factions within it, right? That are like mafia families that make it up. So you have to get them all on board to help out to get us back into the scaled citadel. And so their main quests are going through and there's choices within those as well that are really like, okay, cool. This is way more active than I feel Vanilla Starfield was in what we were doing on that
Starting point is 00:45:12 journey where you got to the end of Vanilla Starfield or the end of Mainland quest lines and it really felt like, okay, you can make a choice here, but whatever. Trevor Super Chatsin saying, I'm excited for more Starfield. Greg, after your experience with Shattered Space, what would you like to see in future expansions? Similar to Shattered Space, one planet or something much different? A hundred percent one planet. They, this is, I've seen from the audience that like Starfield saying how much they like this, you know what I mean? That's been already from day one. This is such a great move. More of this, please. So I really do feel like, yeah, this is the move going
Starting point is 00:45:45 forward is to find new planets and keep us there. Let us do that whole thing. It would be interested to see, you know, creations. Bethesda hasn't been holding back. Obviously, this has been the big one, but they've done the escape quest line out on the creations that I really enjoyed. I told you, blessed, you should really go play it. It is, again, not by any stretch to imagine anything lengthy. I want to say it was maybe 30 minutes, maybe less or whatever, right? But it was the same idea of, cool, you are here and we're having you do something that is not what you normally do in this game. So let's play with the mechanics. Let's play with what we can do with it and go off on it. And so I'm excited to see more stuff like that get peppered in. But also,
Starting point is 00:46:22 yeah, I would say the next time around for sure do that. I would, my hope would be, and who knows, you know, business decisions and everything else, how many expansions will get. I would prefer until you're, for every expansion until your final one, do this. We're going to this planet. It's a really thought out, really handcrafted planet. It's amazing. There's all this shit to do. Congratulations. And then I think the final expansion should play into the overall unity or starborn. What does that actually mean, right? That I'd really like to see tinkered with. But that's, as we all know, many games don't get that luxury of planning their farewell.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You know, I think it'll be interesting. There's so much, you know, you joke about the no sodium Starfield subreddit, right? Which is not the one I usually frequent. That was definitely said as a joke for you. It is the idea that there already is so much hate. I saw somebody in the chat over here. Oh, there it is. Shatterspace has 43% positive reviews on Steam.
Starting point is 00:47:18 It's like, yeah. Even for me, like yesterday people were just coming in the chat to be like, this game sucks. Blah, blah, blah. It's like, all right. Like, I don't, you know what I mean? Like, I understand you don't like it for whatever reason, but it's probably not a real reason.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Like, there's so, I don't know how long Bethesda commits to it and sticks it out. You know what I mean? Are they happy with this? What do the numbers need to look like, etc. And so on. I do have good news and bad news for you. I love it.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Good news is yesterday I reinstalled Starfield and I installed the Shattered Space DLC. Yeah. Bad news is during this show, I just looked at my email and I got a code for a game that I'm very much looking forward to. Did I get the code? It's very much a game that just I'm looking for. Yeah, it's a blessing game. I understand.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I respect that. But like I do want to get around to it. It's one of those like, even just for content because I think we're trying to do what she'd been playing on Friday, even if you just did one of these days at work. Yeah. An afternoon with it. You know, don't roll credits or anything like that. but just be like, my question is like, obviously,
Starting point is 00:48:13 I was fishing a fucking barrel, right? Like, I'm, I, give me the Starfield Slop. I want to go do whatever you want to go do. But like, for you, somebody who's just like, it didn't work for me. I think you three out of five did back on the show, right? Like, is this, oh, man, I can see where in a different time period I would love to invest in this or is it, no, this doesn't fix anything.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Because for me, it is like, it's going to be interesting to see people come back and, sure, shattered space and all this, but it's also just like, yesterday it was, you know, I'm using the scanner. I open it up and it's like, cool. I'm scanning, while I'm in first person on the planet, I'm looking at all the icons, cool. There's the gun shop that I've already discovered. Click A and I fast travel to it.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Right. They've done that thing where it's like, there's so many little quality of life things that when you go back and watch our Starfield review, that's the first thing we all bitch about. And I was like, there's no way. It's Bethes's DNA. They're not going to change carrying capacity yet.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Of course, they changed all that. They actually listened to the audience. So it's a fascinating one to see if people care about it. But again, it's still. Starfield, right? That's what I put in there. It's still got the bad dialogue camera. Like, you know what I mean? Where I'm having conversations and it clicks in and then somebody walks in the way.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And like, I think I was on stream and I'm like, God damn it, Andre. Like it's a main point. Some of his, back of somebody's head steps in. The person you're talking to is like this. Exactly. And it's the thing where in that stream people have been like, oh, well, I don't even like this one. I use the other one. You use the other one now because you can get out of it where it just leaves it wide. But there's just people
Starting point is 00:49:34 stiffly standing there. Like, that sucks. That doesn't look good. I still think though UI is bad. Like it's just not good you are right. If you want to throw it up, the persuasion system is still trash. They've not changed it. They have not changed it. I feel like
Starting point is 00:49:48 the clip I have here isn't even the most egregious one. It's just showing how stiff this still is. Can we hear it? Is that possible? But it's like, you come in, you make your choice, right? This will help better friends for a meal. It's just weird. I expected a second.
Starting point is 00:50:03 True. I am sure this experience has been confusing to you. Then I go here. I pick another one. Hmm Then I got Pick this one I'll pick this one True Same fucking dialogue
Starting point is 00:50:17 On the third one that lets it go And then you made some valid points I will answer your question Dude I didn't make any fucking You didn't listen to a fucking word I said right there And it's like It again it's an RPG
Starting point is 00:50:30 So and I think you still Slowly level on this So like when I started it I was like I'm gonna be very persuasive First off in the main vanilla I don't think you use it enough And this is that DLC You use it more, but still it was like, then it's this.
Starting point is 00:50:43 This sucks. They needed an overhaul. They needed to overhaul that system. I think out of all the systems in like Vanilla Starfield, that was the one that stood out to me the most of like. I can't believe that this got through. Yeah. Especially because so many, I mean, that's such a massive aspect to RPG games of I can make myself stronger, but I love having those dial, those extra dialogue options to kind of like, yeah, let me, let me have
Starting point is 00:51:07 that little silver tongue. Is that the right term? Yeah, you know that. Wow. Good for me. You're fucking awesome. Thank for you, Andy. Greg,
Starting point is 00:51:15 yeah. What more do you have to say about Starfield Shattered Space as of now? I mean, I love it. I think it's great. I think it's an eight. You know,
Starting point is 00:51:23 I'd be interested to check back maybe on Friday after I've, you know, I assume I've squeezed all the juice out of it and see if I'm still there. Because again, I think 85 is me wanting an 85.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I want to say it's close to a 9. But say it's close to a 9. But it's say it's close to a 9. It's not close to a 9. It's a great. It's a great, it is a great expansion. I think Starfield is a great game with all the additions they've put it in, but it is still such a specific game.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Where, you know, it was fun listening to all the content yesterday and you guys were doing the games cast about the rest of the games and like asking about Diablo and bless you just like, I'm just not a Diablo guy. It's just not a game for me, right? And for even people popping into the stream yesterday, and I like the comments on one of the videos is like, this looks like the most boring game ever.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And it's like, yeah, if you don't want to fucking talk to people, this is a boring ass game, but that's what I like doing in these kind of RPGs. I like it so much that there was a point yesterday where I had that realization. And granted, as a Starfield sicko, who's playing, you know, hundreds of hours of this game or whatever, like, I can't be like, oh, man, I'm, I sure am just running around shooting a lot of shit. But in the DLC, I was like, man, it's been like an hour plus since I've touched a gun. Like, I'm just walking around, negotiating, talking this person, trying to figure that out, get that thing, do it. It's like, I like, I like, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:52:31 That feels great. I don't want to just play a first-person shooter, even though I feel like the shooting is great in Starfield. And it's something we jumped off of like, yeah, the added guns or whatever, right? Like, I think I use one Varroon pistol that I like a lot. That's a gold. But everything else I'm sticking with what I am because, again, I've so committed to being a shotgun guy and all these different things. But like, yeah, I think for me in terms of shattered space for Starfield, like, I think they did a great job. I think they delivered on what not only I wanted, but I think a lot of people who did not connect with Starfield would want, but I wonder if that ship sailed is.
Starting point is 00:53:06 well. Like, you know, not, not, you keep using blessing. Like, there's a million other games to play. You know, again, when I, I, my Starfield session has never ended, right? But like, when I've been playing through, getting my save ready to then come into shattered space to play all that Starfield and then go play Dragon Age, you'd be like, oh, fuck, this is a, what's a, this all good game. Dragon Age is having me, having me make choices and not having me, and Dr. Abreed at the back of Andrage's head in the way of somebody, right? And I build this party and do these things. Like now granted,
Starting point is 00:53:38 will they come, will Dragon Age the entire run, be as good as that demo was and yada, yada, we'll wait and see. But I truly love Starfield and Shattered Space. So I recommend it if you're that type of gamer.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Or again, if you've lapsed and come back. I think it's well worth the $30, even for the 10 hours I've got in it. We'll see how much more I can get out of it here and go on. Timmy buddy says, is the DLC free. If we only have Starfield with GamePass,
Starting point is 00:54:02 can I play the expansion for no extra cost? So it's $30. I think you get. for $3 off if you're a game pass person. Interesting. I think it's $3.3 off, yeah. Everyone, let us know in the comments below
Starting point is 00:54:15 if you plan to hop back into Starfield for Shattered Space or maybe for the first time or if you think Greg's crazy. Whatever you want to say in the comments, please do. We appreciate the engagement either way. Speaking of all that, I'm sorry, real quick. Roj, can I get the one?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Justin Santos says, Bro, Greg doesn't sound convincing to me. Justin Santos. of whatever state slash country you live in. It's me, Greg Miller. I fucking love Starfield. I've put more than 100 hours into Starfield. Shattered Space is a great game and a great expansion.
Starting point is 00:54:50 If you love fucking talking to people and getting your cool guns, and the occasional weird bug, you're going to love this game, okay? If you're like Starfield's dog shit, this isn't going to turn you around. Thank you, Tim. I didn't mean the biz. Sorry, Justin Santos. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:55:08 to the other time than I put into Eldon Ring. He might have time that's been to start for that's impressive. Better game.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Oh my God. That's where we're going to end, everybody. Okay. I'm going to be my game of the year two years in a row.
Starting point is 00:55:18 We're going to be playing more of Shattered Space on Twitch and YouTube. If you're watching on Twitch, you can stay where you are. If you watch it on YouTube, you need to jump over to the other link.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Thank you so much for hanging out with us today. Until next time, love you all. Goodbye. I was with you. I was with you.

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