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What's up everybody? Welcome.
to the kind of funny games cast for Tuesday, August 27th, 2024.
I'm one of your host, Greg Miller, alongside the Hispanic heartthrob, Texas treat,
Latino heat, clicking heads and ripping them to shreds.
The globe trotting, headshotting, three-point shooting, rootin, tooting, nitro rifle from Twitch.
Dot TV, Andy Cortez, Greg, he-he, I went out of my way to switch it up because we just did
Happy Hour where I did three-point shoot.
shoot and root and tune. Now when root and two and three point
or vice versa, but they were different
show to show. Because you called it out that
I've been switching it. I'm glad you're noticing. Well,
I mean, it's mainly just because root and two and three point
shooting, I feel like is a little cleaner.
Three point shooting, root and two. Ruten tune.
Routin tune. Routen tune. Routen Tune Tud. That's great to be here.
It's good to be here. You look great.
I wish I could wear a pastel like you could.
What do you mean? Yes, you can. I don't wear a lot of,
I don't wear a lot of pastels. And you
you rock them. You have that color palette
locked. I don't think you allow yourself to. Even right now with this purple light on your skin,
you just look great. I don't think you allow yourself to. Well, I can't wear a pastel shirt
because I'll sweat through the armpits and I'll have dark pits. You're also just really pale as well.
I'm also really pale. I have, hold on the second though. I did get, look at this.
Actually, they still look super pale. Yeah, look at that. I had a sunburn from the weekend.
Yeah, you can still see it. Oh yeah. That's very present.
Like, I have color, but even my color is ghostly white. Yeah, okay. I feel that. Yeah.
I think you should just give it a shot. Like, I used to wear colors all the time,
Like I said,
you know.
Gotta be a hoodie or a bunch of it.
When,
when,
when,
um,
from Game Showdown,
he was Marvel.
I wanted to say Mario's so bad.
I knew that wasn't.
When Marvel came by,
uh,
from the experience shop here with the,
uh,
used games in Alameda,
he brought a whole much stuff.
He just didn't have this in my size.
I took,
I took one.
A t-shirt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I,
actually,
I might have taken a pastel one.
Because I'm never sure about this,
the pit sweating anymore.
It's a nice.
Right now I'm dry.
See,
I think showering at night helps them be dry.
just
you can get in there
and check anytime
like a little
like a little raccoon
just kind of
washing my grapes in the water
a little tree in there
kind of like you
rummaging around in there
now you said
you like being on this podcast
that's just because
the games cast is awesome
well I'm just happy to be here
you know I've seen
Greg walks out to me
and says Andy can you
change the thumbnail
I know you already
made the thumbnail
but can you change it
to breaking you
steam is cool
steam is good
absolutely
I can do that
don't worry
I'm still previewing
Lost Records Bloom and Rage today,
but we need to have a conversation about Steve.
Yeah, of course.
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he's going to be deep in there.
I already told him like,
we need you to make a lot of connections for us.
Get in there, talk to all the largest
Pokemon gamers.
I don't think so.
Okay.
No, but it's going to be a lot of like
former e-sports pros that are now.
Golden Boy.
I bet you Golden Boy will be there.
No, actually, I think Golden Boy might be
doing the Valorant finals in
somewhere across the world.
Fatality.
Fatality.
Yeah.
Run out of pro gamers that I know.
It's a great callback.
Yeah.
Oh, he's not popular.
You can always go with Ogre 1 and Ogre 2.
No.
That's not real.
Halo.
What are you talking about?
Is that real?
I mean, the ogre twins were like some of, like, the first e-sports dudes I knew.
I only know fatality from, you know, true life.
From MTV.
Yeah, true life.
No, the Ogre Twins are the ones putting out, like, hey, we're putting out Halo montages.
I think they, I think one of them is still like a, a, now became a shoutcaster for competitive Halo.
But back in the day, it was like, oh, my God.
Me and my friends were like, just put on that ogre tier highlight.
We are the twigs.
gosh, the Halo 1 highlights were nasty.
Okay, fair enough.
This is exciting, right? Call of Duty next is a big deal.
It's a big deal that Mike's there.
Yeah, really, really huge.
He wanted me and Nick to join him.
I declined because I didn't know what Next was.
I thought it was like an e-sports thing or whatever.
But I...
Next year you want to go?
I don't know.
I kind of don't mind being the person that sits back and gets to hear the stories.
Sure.
And gets to...
You don't need to live them.
Hear the chaos.
Yeah.
Especially when you're talking about Mike.
Yeah, exactly. There's going to be a lot of chaos over there.
And I'm just excited to kind of like, maybe it would help for me to sort of be the first,
like the person witnessing all of it in action.
First hand accounts.
Because you've got to assume that when he's going to embellish.
When he comes back, he's going to embellish or really, really toned down sort of the weird shit that he's been doing.
So I would love to kind of keep him honest there.
But no, this is, I mean, this is huge for us.
I'm excited for him to check this out.
I'm excited for him to come back and just have a much of cool.
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That is an hour earlier than usual game daily time. And I can't remember off top of my
if he's doing three hours or four hours. But when that ends, we'll roll into games daily,
games cast and the usual stream. Maybe not. Is there a usual stream norm? No. So tomorrow's
cod stream is our, essentially, the gameplay stream. That'll kick off at roughly 9 a.m.
If it's three or four hours, I think is being decided in the moment. And then yes, whenever that ends,
will do games daily somewhere around noon to one and games cast after that in the twitch chat june
down gets to the heart of the issue he says and he doesn't want to be abandoned by mike in another state i
respect that fair enough yeah yeah yeah i'll wake up and be like ah you know i came over here it's like
okay well we were supposed to go to that thing like i don't know where you're at you know and then yeah
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will be topic of the show.
So, Andy,
Steam's pretty cool.
Let's just say, I know
it's going to shock a lot of people. A lot of people haven't been paying
attention to this. I know the Epic Game Store very popular.
But Steam's a pretty cool platform it turns out.
Yeah.
Do you understand.
Did you know this?
Well, yesterday there was a bit of a roller coaster, Greg.
Yesterday we went through, you know, some immediate kind of ups and downs.
Very still like Mike Lichen, like immediately walking back the statement you had just previously said.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
I'm on Photoshop.
I'm doing, you know, I was making a graphic thing.
And Greg walks up and he goes, pretty cool.
I just docked in that little steam deck and it popped right up on my screen.
That's pretty cool.
And I was like, yeah, that is pretty cool.
He's like, yeah, you should check this out.
whole steam thing's pretty neat.
And then I don't even think it was 20 minutes later of Tim at Greg's desk and Tim going,
okay, well, why the fuck it?
Like, HDR, it says it's not HDR.
Like, I play it on something called the PlayStation where it automatically fucking knows what
HDR is and it knows when to turn it on.
So what the fuck?
And Tim is like, why are you getting mad at me?
Like, I'm not the Steam representative here.
But you had the best response where you're like, no, he's doing it to get to me.
He knows I have one ear off.
He's saying it loud enough so I can hear it.
I can get mad at PC gaming.
So what was that situation?
What was that all about?
I'm doing my,
the preview on this one's going to be
Lost Records, Blumen Rage, right?
The new don't-nod game, Life is Strange people,
yada, yada, yada.
You're playing on PC.
Yeah, well, I mean, this is the gamescom preview build.
Oh, okay.
They sent a preview code.
In our industry, most preview codes would come on Steam
in terms of like, hey, this is an incomplete build.
This is how it is.
When they get to review codes, that's usually when people are like,
well, what platform do you want it on?
Yeah.
Rather than if you're going to a PACs, you're going to a gamescom,
you're just loading PCs up with, you know, executables for the games and going off that way.
And now in our digital world, it's so easy to send them around.
And even if you don't go to Gamescom, get the chance to do it.
And so, yeah, the story was yesterday that I loaded it on my Steam deck.
As you know, from reading our emails and getting preview codes,
maybe you don't know.
There is, in the industry right now, not pushback to,
but lots of times people will call out when they send you preview codes now.
do not play this on Steam Deck.
Like, you know, this is a preview code.
This is not optimized.
This is X, Y, and Z.
Don't do it.
I usually ignore that.
If I care enough about your game to play it on PC,
I'm just going to play it on the PC that works for me,
which is the Steam Deck, right?
And, you know, again, if it was like no textures or whatever,
I would go give you a shake somewhere else or whatever.
You're right.
So, yeah, yesterday, what it was is that I'm kind of in this Renaissance period with my
Steam Deck.
I talked about, you know, on the gaming vacation episode, right?
where I'm a PC gamer where we talked about wow
but to recap right
getting ready to go on vacation up to Canada
loaded up the steam deck with stuff
plugged it into the TV for the first time since I bought it
and they've rehauled
they've overhauled how easy that is
where it actually worked unlike the first time I ever tried to do it
where I was like well I'm never going to do that again
which then for me opened up a lot of like oh well maybe I'll do more of this
and maybe the whole new world is open yeah yeah where so
coming back from that now I've been still playing
you know tinkering with Dungeons of Hintraberg on it or whatever
a few other things here and there
I saw you logged in on Dunstanjana.
I was about to give a little Steam DM.
Yeah.
A lot of little D. I saw you do it and I was like
I don't want to disturb this moment.
I don't want to like maybe.
It's so fragile.
Yeah, it really is. The alliance is so fragile
and anything could go wrong between Greg and PC gamers.
He tabs out and suddenly can't get back in the game
and he gets mad at me, you know?
So I wouldn't even tab.
I'd just be playing this thing.
It wouldn't make.
Anyways, though, I sat down to play
lost records.
yesterday for the, it's just an hour long demo.
And yeah, I plugged it in just through USBC.
I didn't have my doc with me because Joey has it because I gave it to her forever.
I go, it turns out.
I was like, where's my doc?
And Joey's like, I think you lent it to me forever because you were like, you don't need it.
Like I need it back.
But I plugged it in and then it was, this isn't even the Steam Dex problem.
The joke about PS5 is.
But like the monitor I use at work is an ultra wide.
It's Tim's old one, which is great except for I'm not that tech guy.
So like when I, it's like in game mode.
so I can't access all of the brightness configurations.
And usually I just do it inside of the PlayStation.
I can change it.
But then with this, the Steam Deck and with the demo for this,
it was like, all right, it's HDR on or off.
I'm like, the monitor has no way of telling me.
I don't know.
And then I'm like adjusting a million settings trying to get it to work.
And that's when I called Tim over.
And he's like, oh, you're being a bit more aggressive.
Tim was like just the, what's going on?
I'm like, oh, I don't even think you have HDR on.
I'm like, well, PlayStation, I mean, they're fucking took it to 10 right on it, right?
or ever. We'll see, I don't know if you know Tim, but I play on something called PlayStation
PlayStation 5. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, where I come from, the console is smart enough
to tell me. They can read through the fucking Y, the HTML, what's going on. And anyways, I jumped
in and played the game there, which again is awesome, you know, this ability to be able
just to have the PC with you and ready to go, or, you know, your gaming platform with you and do
it. We'll get to, I think, the cons of PC gaming that still exists for me with that in a
second, but for now that's great or whatever, right? And it's the same thing of
this morning where this headline spawns from,
we did, well, it spawns from the fact that I don't think enough people would click on
Lost Records, Blumen Rage Preview, which breaks my heart.
I talk all the time candidly about the fact that independent games, I'm trying to get,
it's like trying to get the audience to eat vegetables, right?
Where if they don't care about that game, they're not going to click on it.
Where a broader Steam discussion, I think is more headline worthy, sadly, than this game
that not everybody cares about.
Right.
But the game preview is going to come up in a second, and I'll say they're fucking.
game's awesome.
But anyways, the headline stems from we did Nintendo Direct this morning.
I was like, damn, there's a lot of fucking games I really wanted this.
And I said it a few times in the show.
Fucking wish I brought my Switch.
I didn't bring my Switch day.
I brought the Steam Deck because we're getting ready to do that.
And then it was, somebody had said something in the, in one of, about one of the games.
I was one of the ones I was excited about of like, oh, well, it's already out on PC or whatever.
And so I was like, got back to my desk after the Games Daily, got back in there.
And I went through it.
and I was like, well, here are the four games I'm excited for.
Are they excited for?
But four games that I'm like, are they out now?
And it was, Europa has a demo out right now on PC that isn't on consoles, to my knowledge.
Peglin, which I was like fucking freaking out about it.
That's amazing.
It's been an early access since April 2020 on PC.
Cuisineer, I was like, that game looks awesome.
It's been out since November 23.
Nice.
Wobbly life has been in early access since 2020.
And it was one of those like, damn, this shit's cool.
I fucking hate you.
I fucking hate you.
Damn,
this is pretty cool, huh?
Now, to my credit,
the,
my hang-ups about PC gaming
still exists in,
in some ways are amplified
by the Steam deck,
some ways completely solved,
right?
Because I just want to use the controller
and I just want it to work
and I can plug and play,
blah, blah, blah.
But like,
playing Blumen Rage
yesterday.
yesterday. Great time. I think the game's a stunner, like, across the board. I'm really excited to talk
about it a little bit. But one of the things I was like, oh, man, like, I don't remember this art style.
It's very like, not, it's like mosaic around them and these things and then blah, blah, blah.
And then I watched the trailer this morning when I was putting it in the dock. I'm like, oh, the trailer looks nothing like that.
Like, clearly this is a graphical thing where they, again, for PC specs, I'm sure they didn't
want me to play on a Steam deck. But again, when I click on PC specs, I'm like, I'm DW and Arthur.
I'm like, that sign won't stop me.
I can't read.
I don't know what the Steam Deck settings are to tell you what that would be, right?
And so it was one of those, like, it didn't hammer my experience.
I thought it was an artistic choice the way they were mosaicing backgrounds and things like that.
But looking at the show, I'm like, oh, that's not how it's supposed to actually look.
And so...
Yeah, you got to assume that you were releases.
That's my problem still, even with the Steam Deck, where I'm still holding out hope, Phil Spencer,
that you are making the Xbox handheld, that that rumor is real.
because if there's going to be an Xbox
that is just an Xbox on the go
I will pick that 10 out of 10 times
over the Steam Deck
because of the fact that I know
that Xbox game will run
and look like
even if it's an Xbox series S level
in nerds
it will look the way it's supposed to look
whereas with this
when it takes a long time to boot
when it takes a long time
and I play so much XCloud too
so that's not even a joke for me
when it takes long to boot in Steam Deck
I'm always like
well is this the game or is this Steam Deck
how much faster would this be on a real PC
versus a Steam Deck thing or versus a console
versus whatever? And I hate that level of
your mileage will vary.
I don't like that. I want to know
that I'm getting an experience that somebody
tried for. That's a sexy little guy right there, isn't it?
Do you, for Audulous, as he,
Barrett's bringing up, like, awesome
concept art of handheld
Xbox? Xbox handheld.
Okay, so
a lot of different solutions here.
A lot of things that I totally understand.
when it comes to more of the modern games,
I know this is going to probably look and run like garbage on my Steam Deck.
Is Veilgard going to look and run like garbage on my Steam Deck?
Probably.
Like, it comes down to optimization.
It comes on to how many,
to how much the studios know and understand.
We have a big audience here that we can capture with the Steam Deck audience,
and do we want to go for that?
Do we want to optimize to that level?
There's a lot of, when it comes to, like,
games that I know are not the most
graphically intensive or games that require
if there's a game that I can play that has ray tracing
that's a modern one I'm pretty sure it's not going to look great
on my thing because that means that like
if you have ray tracing on your game that means that you're probably
trying to push really really far into the future with
visuals so the game never
the not spiritual successor but the game
from the studio that made grease right or agree
We, uh, I play that on the seam deck, even though we were, I ignored that one.
They're like, don't do it, you go blind.
That was the first one there.
Like, don't play this on Steam Deck, but I finished the second half of that demo and it ran perfectly
great.
Because I could tell about the art style, this isn't going to require a whole lot.
Dragon's Dogma 2 runs like shit and looks like shit.
It looks so fucking bad on the Steam deck in the same, in the similar way that, um, like
the, uh, when these, we're talking about these recent titles, something like Elden Ring looks
pretty damn good. Runs at 30 frames
per second consistently. I have a great
time playing Elder Ring on the Steam Deck.
There is just some studios that
don't really try to do optimization
for the handheld, and I totally get it.
I think we're in a spot right now where
the first Steam deck came
out two years ago,
maybe two and a half years ago. And you got to
assume that that handheld was in... Maybe even
three. I remember being
at the kitchen table. That would have
been at least 2021. I don't remember if Ben
was around. You got to assume it was in
development for a couple years by that point, right?
What the Steam Deck?
Yeah, the first Steam Deck.
February 25th, 2022.
Okay.
So we're getting close.
We're about two and a half years in, right, on the Steam Deck.
And I got to assume
with how quickly we got the OLED variant
that they are quickly working on the next-gen thing
because Asus Raj, Rog, ally,
they already came out with their extreme version, right?
and like the ASUS initial one
was already more powerful than the seam deck
I think what it comes down to is
do you care a whole lot about
having to have it plugged in
me personally yeah
no I'm usually I mean I
when I bought the steam deck I bought the big
anchor battery that could run the steam deck and I know
it runs everything on my house all the time
now it's like you know like the whole household
I'm exaggerating sorry but yeah like I'll charge
my computer off it we run bed baby monitor
off it when we're at the couch and stuff so it's like
I'm not too worried about that I'd like
you know, I'd love more hours out of it
out of the Steam Deck alone or the Rog
ally or whatever. Because like I, yeah, the first
ASUS ROG ally that came out was already
more powerful than the Steam Deck is.
And then they came out with the even more powerful one
which boosted the battery life and
you know, bigger bezel or smaller
bezels, whatever. It's just a better piece of hardware.
But they made it much more powerful.
And they have different sort of performance
modes where you can like put it on the ultra boost mode
and it's going to tank your fucking
battery life and you're going to want to have it plugged in
but it's going to run
some of the more recent games
that are really, really graphically intensive
it's going to run those really, really well.
Yeah. So it comes down to
I mean, like it's always
been with any sort of mobile situation.
It comes down to if I want to play
this PC game on even a nice laptop,
do I care about battery?
Am I plugged in? That's what it really
like. And I think
I love the seam deck more than the Asus Rogg.
Even though the Asus Rogg, you can run
BattleNet without having to love it more.
I think they just, there's a
there's an ease of use there.
There's a
It's easier than the ROG?
Having that Steam OS, like even though the ROG
is a Windows device and it can technically
run everything, it's still
Windows. It also requires you to kind of
going, you're running
a small PC, pretty much, right?
And I love that the Steam Deck has
that OS as the little
hand holder for the
for people like me who, I love getting into
the kernels, like, don't get me wrong. I love
fucking around with stuff, but I'm also the type
that for as much as a visual
stickler as I am, I don't mind my games not looking great on the Steam deck because, like,
it's just the ease, it's the convenience, right? Oh, for sure. And I think the Steam OS, and I think
Steam's done such a fantastic freaking job, even in these first couple of years, of making that
such a viable solution for, again, I am like, if I'm playing on my PC and recently playing the
Final Fantasy 16 demo and going like, this feels like a new video game, watching this compared to my
PS5 version, having this on PC, getting all the bells and whistles.
Even when we were talking about yesterday for the Outlaws review, where I threw up PS5
footage, you know, like, this looks not remotely like what mine looks like.
And I love playing at max settings, but when I get into the bed and I'm so excited about
being in bed playing on the Steam deck, I totally don't mind the watered down version that's
going to run at 30 or 40 frames per second.
And see, I'm fine with that loss.
Like, you know, it's similar to the conversation we've had recently.
Let me check it. Let me run it.
Turn on that Blumen Undine for me.
It's already there.
Okay.
I think it's still on a start screen, but you'll see.
Okay.
This conversation we had this week about Xbox Series X and S in Starfield
and how when I came back to Starfield with the 60 frames patch,
then I didn't realize it wasn't on the series S yet.
So when I jumped back to S, it was like, oh shit, fuck.
I didn't realize this is still running at 30.
I was fine with it.
I find myself, you know, when I'm thinking of the future,
and again, I'm dreaming of that Xbox handheld, right?
Which, of course, could be my reality here.
It's like, I wish right now that I could just,
boot up Starfield in a handheld sense and go.
I can do it off XCloud. I do it all the time. I can do it off remote play. I do I, well, I usually
use X cloud. So it's like that exists, but I want it in this form factor. I want it in a true,
here's your save where it's been, you know, everything is going on. I don't mind frame
dropage. It's more like when it looks, when character models look like garbage again.
And I've had, I don't even want to name games because this is like when the scene, when I first
got my steam deck, I was reviewing one game on PC and I did it here. And it was like,
it crashed at the screen with like the developer intro.
I finally got in there.
Things were missing.
And it was like,
again,
it was giving me a bad interpretation of what the actual experience is like.
But it was reminding me of everything I don't like about PC gaming where it is like,
I don't want to troubleshoot.
Yeah.
I'll take the lesser experience.
Just don't make me troubleshoot.
Get it in and let's go.
Right.
Which is what I always wanted of this kind of thing.
Well,
I will say that when the OLED came out,
which I'm like,
so I don't want to buy.
I feel like now that I'm starting to use my,
team deck a lot again. I'm like, I don't want to, I don't want to spend money on the
OLED. You absolutely should just wait for whatever the next iteration is, but when the OLED came out,
there were a bunch of reviewers that were really, really going into the hardware and realizing,
man, they really didn't advertise this super great because, yeah, they added an OLED screen,
but so much more about the hardware is really, really improved when it comes to the
the way the buttons feel to the battery life, to the temperature and the heat sink and
they change a lot of stuff without really advertising. They made it just seem like we put an
OLED screen on it, but it improved a lot in terms of even loading games. And I think that
I got to assume next year we'll get a new Steam deck, whether it's an updated piece of
hardware inside of it or whether it's a pro version or whatever. I think we are getting very, very
close with how quickly the OLED came out.
And again, the OLED came out, and they had
denied any
indication they were even working on
a new piece of hardware. They're like, no, that's
in the future. And then the OLED came out
like a month later. So like,
you've got to assume that they are working on
shit.
But
hold on,
it says like start a new game.
Yeah, it was a preview. So I finished the demo
and it just drops you back. There's no safe. Oh, okay,
gotcha, gotcha. Um,
Yeah, I'm really, really excited to see, like, what the future could be because, dude, I used to, like, not be a handheld gamer.
I didn't give a shit about handheld games.
I never was comfortable with them.
I'm still not super comfortable when I, and I'm laying in bed, I'm leaning on one shoulder and then I have to switch over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think something about the size of the Steam deck, I know some people don't love that it's a massive hunk or whatever, but it's also easier for me when I'm on my back and I got my, I could just have my arms like.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I think like the perfect,
it's sort of like the perfect proportion for that.
But I believe more in Val's vision for what the seam deck is
than I do with something like an Asus or something like that.
Because I just do feel like they will be small Windows machines.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think Valve recently kind of gave Asus permission to put Steam OS on their machine.
So maybe that makes, you know, maybe that makes the user experience
It's a bit more user-friendly, but I'm just super stoked for what these features,
like the fact that these games can, I can boot up Securo on my Steam Deck,
and it runs at 60 frame per second, and it looks fantastic.
It's like, that's, I would have never assumed that that would be possible, right?
When you see an indie game running that pops up, like you're just mentioning a lot of these indie titles,
perfectly great to install on this sucker.
Totally.
When it's a big open world 3D game, you're like, ooh, probably not going to run great.
And see, that's the dream for me.
And again, why I keep going towards the Xbox version of it,
why I think I'd be more excited is that I just want those games as good as possible on whatever it is.
And so if it's an Xbox and it's not a watered down PC, right, even if it's a watered down Xbox,
I feel like I'm going to have a better experience there personally than I would going and doing it.
Because like, right, again, the Starfield thing is so loud in my mind.
Like, man, I wish I, I wish my Starfield saved could be on this, right?
That it is like with Dragon Age, I'm like, am I going to play Dragon Age on PC so I can actually do grinding stuff upstairs and not,
again it's remote play i'm you know fucking the richest king in the world where it's like even
if i played on a playstation i could remote play upstairs but it's like this weekend going to packs
i would love to do some starfield and a handheld sense on a plane that's like or in a hotel room with
shitty wifi right right that's where my head's at well i think uh i mean is it some of the novelty
and some of the stuff that you enjoyed about you walking up through going to steam stuff's pretty neat
is the fact that you're getting a bunch of these sort of early preview
codes that are only available on Steam.
Yeah, 100%.
Because, like, I'll tell you what,
it's been awesome to play Hades on my Steam Deck.
Sure.
The Hades 2 has been great this year.
Even Fields of Mystery, which I've just been no-lifing for the past couple of weeks.
Like, it's been awesome for a new game to go.
We just hit early access.
We are Steam Deck approved.
Holy shit.
That's awesome.
You know what I mean?
And to get in on the, I know a lot of these games you're hopping into now,
the joke is, oh, I'll let everybody else beta.
Yeah, that's why I was.
Beta tested for a couple.
years or whatever, but it's still really neat to kind of get in early and check out the game
and see whether it's worth it or not. But a lot of it comes down to, do I want this game to
run at 30 frames per second, or do I want it to look super blurry at 720P, you know?
Yeah, I could totally see how this, you know, it's a very, very modern looking game that may
be a little bit more blurry in some senses. Yeah. But also on that OLA, it'll look even better.
I know, I know. But I see, I'm right there where you, you, you know,
said where it's like at this point
I'm just gonna wait for the next next one right
like I don't want to buy an OLED because I know
and yeah nine months there'll be another Steam deck
probably now do we think they'll do the Nintendo Switch thing
where the Switch 2 is gonna come out without
OLED so you have to wait for the switch to OLED
oh I don't think Steam would do that no
you don't think Steam will just come out with a normal LCD screen
and then do an OLED afterwards
that's a Tim question but I feel like they know their audience
or maybe simultaneously I think it's like
still such a niche market right and it is
they know this niche will pay
PC gamers and hardcore gamers
People who are interested in a Steam deck
Would want the best experience
We would want a premium product
Right they'd be willing to pay
The 800 900 900 whatever it's gonna be
Yeah I guess whatever is right now
And the other thing about
Yeah like again is an ecosystem
That I've known about but now actually
Participating in it and it being there
Like going in today
And even the stuff that was in the Nintendo
Direct that isn't out wish listing right
Speaking of the follow this page
You see the update stuff like that
Like you're talking about on the Steam deck
The OS of it all right
again, how amazing it is to see what I'm seeing on the web portal, put into the Steam deck,
put onto the, you know, thing all linked up.
It's, you know, impressive stuff is always.
There's definitely a lot more user-friendly aspects to it than having a Windows OS sort of pop into your face and opening up the windows.
And, you know, you can still do the Steam desktop mode.
That's how you get into your special.
Oh, yeah, I've gone into it.
Yeah.
That's how I got, you know, allegedly, you know, no mercy on there and stuff like that.
Oh, okay, got you.
video games.
Trust me.
I'm in it.
Yeah, exactly.
Also,
was it Roger who got
Battlenet running up?
I don't think.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, if there's a way
to play Diablo,
I did it.
Now, of course,
Diablo's Steam native,
so I've,
I don't know if I uninstalled it.
Oh, that's right.
But I have a Diablo
straight up on Steam.
But yeah,
I still have Battlenet on there
if I wanted to go that way.
Man,
Jag and H4,
I really, really hope.
I mean,
the thing that gives me a lot of hope
that they're making the right.
Chat said it's verified,
but again,
verified what is it going to look like.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Like, there's a lot of more recent games that are verified
that will work on your thing that will start to look really messy
because they're running AMD FSR at, like,
which is AMD's version of DLSS.
They're running that at the most highest performance mode.
So it's going to make everything look really noisy
to try to get you a stable frame rate.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, let's do a couple of super chats to do an ad break
and then preview lost records, bloom in rage.
I jump over here to the superchats
where you can come be a part of the show
YouTube.com slash
Kind of funny games
Super chat.
Sean says Starfield runs surprisingly well
on my Rog ally X.
It breathed new life into the game for me
around 30 to 50 frames per second
and a couple hours of battery life.
Again, I ain't knocking it.
I just wish, you know, you go back.
I just wish I get my Xbox save over to Steam,
right, to play that way.
That'd be the thing.
I know I've looked into it.
I know that there's the windows
and like I can do that.
That's too much.
I don't want to do that.
Yeah, no.
I'm a stickler for the machine
after using the Battlenet extension,
after using Ghostbusters Sega
Master System, all that stuff.
Like, I wanted to be in the world.
I want it to look good on the library
and be a real thing.
I don't want it to be like,
here's something I jury rigged
to get over there and do it.
Laguagoon says,
if you're worried about how it's going to look,
don't play it on Seembeck.
But the problem is like Greg,
the Seam Deck is Greg's number one
option for PC gaming.
And pretty much the only option for PC gaming.
So it's like...
I have.
PCs at home.
Yeah.
I don't like,
don't like it.
Yeah,
but like,
this is your preferred sort of vibe,
you know?
You know,
when I have to hook it up
to TV for a review,
and I have to hit the power button
and then sit,
lay in the ground with my mouse
and keyboard,
and then I get up with my control there
and go sit on the couch
like a normal person.
Oh,
so you,
you, oh, wow,
so you have the PC plug into your TV?
When,
only when I'm doing,
like reviews or something.
Huh.
Yeah.
I like that.
Thank you.
Uh,
yeah, again,
I don't want to sit at a desk
after being a desk all day long.
No, yeah, I totally feel that.
Knees said, played Concord through Steam
on my Roggalli.
Thanks to Andy.
Appreciate the hookup.
They allowed that?
Oh, no, I guess if it's a rock alley, yeah,
it's just Windows.
Why are you the hookup for that?
I don't know.
Did you give Nees a code?
I don't know.
I mean, there's been a couple of people
where I'm like, I love this game so much.
If you want to play it and I don't want to play it
because it costs $40.
And I saw I bought the game for a couple of people,
but I don't know if that's,
was one of the people.
Oh, that much makes sense.
Look at you.
What a nice guy.
And then Robbie Rob says,
I recommend using Steam
built in remote play.
Built in remote play.
So are you talking about
playing on the TV?
Are you talking about
when I'm using like this to whatever,
Chikari to play all my PlayStation?
I need more information than that on our station.
Yeah, I mean, I know that they allow.
Steam link, yeah, that's the way.
Yeah, they allow you like, if you have your PC on,
you can just kind of play from there.
but our Wi-Fi might
Then I'm back to the same situation
I'm at with the PlayStation Portal, right?
Where I don't even want to deal with that.
I want the best possible
it's in one machine ready to go.
But yeah, Steam link I've used before, for sure.
Okay.
Well, I do think that, yeah, the future Steam version
would still be preferred.
Like I'm trying to, you know,
I almost want to make like a pros and cons list.
Okay, lay them on me.
You know, when we're looking at the Xbox handheld,
whatever that is.
the cons would be
you're not getting these early access titles
of course right
but it'll
likely look and run
really really nice and it'll have
those local saves
and you're running the version of the game
you're not running a cloud version of the game
I understand where you're going with this
let me cut you off though and like
mutate the conversation
I think what you're doing is smart
and I understand but it almost sounds like
um
you think the conversation is
this or the other, right?
The Steam deck would still be there for these early access games.
I'd want to play these Indies,
these things I'm seeing pop up on a switch.
It's just that as soon as I can play Dragon Age, the Vale Guard,
and I know it's going to look as good as a Series S
and not have any trouble and yada, yada, yada,
that's where I'm going for those kind of games.
And again, like, the crazy thing is I do think,
if Xbox does that,
it would be like such a blow to my PlayStation thing.
You know,
and I mean,
the thing being,
I guess,
the character are my trophies,
but again,
like becoming a dad and having even less time to play.
I still play a lot of games,
but I don't platinum a lot of games anymore.
Right?
Like, that's the big thing.
I'd be in a game and it's on to the next one.
I'd love to sit here and platinum it,
but I can't do it.
I'm on to the next one.
I'm on the next one.
I'm on the next one.
So if I'm playing games like that,
and I'm even thinking about playing like Dragon Age on this,
I'd play it on Xbox and do that.
And then I'd have Starfield and I'd have everything else I want that.
That makes sense.
But it would just be the idea of like,
I think that would be the pull of,
I would still have this for when I want to do an early access
or when it catches my eye or whatever the hell it would be.
It's just, I think we're in a new age for Steam Deck, period.
Xbox doesn't take away from that.
I think Xbox is just the, when it is the, hey, this is a fully launched game.
It is in early access.
It's out everywhere kind of thing.
That's where I would go for it.
Gotcha.
That makes sense.
When you, when you bite the old dust.
When I die, yeah.
Are you going to leave your PSN profile and all your trophies to bin?
Hell no.
He has to have his own account.
I like that.
Yeah, I know.
I scramble the password.
Every week I scramble the password.
You have to hack this.
Before we bring up another super chat,
Baird, can you bring up the trailer
that I posted in assets?
I started up a new
new title called Arco.
A-R-C-S-Yes.
Thank you.
Okay, go ahead for it.
And it's, you know, you know me.
I love turn-based games, right?
Number one fan of turn-based games.
I fucking hate you so fucking much.
This is a turn-based game.
shutting off this. And I would say as a fan of
turn-based games, there it is.
See, I have Arco. As a fan who loves turn-based games,
I started playing this and
really want to champion just like the turn-based nature
of it. But I do think it's super
interesting combat-wise. Like, you're not
just standing there and then, you know, taking your
clothes out of the dryer and then coming back and doing another move
and then answering, you know, the door.
Gotcha. And doing another move or whatever.
Like, it's a lot more active.
like going around the battlefield and planning your next step.
Yeah, every sort of like little
combat scenario you're in,
you can kind of move and know when the
attack is coming, I want to run this way.
You move your path, and then you can
even bend it like Beckham, like you can bend the path of where
you're going to run around. So if you see the dude's about to shoot
arrows, if you're close enough, you can maybe
melee them and that'll interrupt the arrow shot because a melee
attack is always faster than a long range
attack, but if you know the melee or the arrows is about to be shot at you, but you're too
far away from a melee shot, you can sort of run and start the dodge. It's just got like a really
neat way of doing combat, which I hadn't really, it's the most different of a turn-based
game, I would say. I, you know, it takes a, it's a rare turn-based game that gets me. I saw this one
go through my feet and I requested a code. Full disclosure, it's actually being, it's, it's
panic publishing, which means pop agenda,
Jen's company is like helping with
marketing support and PR support. But that didn't
matter. What I caught was a tweet from the composer
that I just sent to assets.
Arco has over 150
reviews, 98% being positive.
Sadly, we are struggling to make
people notice about the game itself,
being considered already as a quote-unquote
hidden gem. Our gameplay trailer
shows how Arco works and hopefully
it will catch your eye. A retweet
would help us a lot. I saw this go
through my feed and I retweeted
When I saw it, it had, I think, 4,000 likes.
Now it's up to 8,000 likes.
This is from last week sometime.
There it is August 22nd.
I saw it and I was like, I'm not the biggest turn-based guy.
But then the more I watched this gameplay trailer that Barrett's showing that the composer posted, I was like, I can get down with this.
And again, I'm doing the same thing where it's like, I'm loading it up for my steam deck to go to packs.
And even I have no time because Ben's coming with us.
So we'll be on the plane entertaining him.
I was like, that looks interesting enough that I want to see what that's all about.
There's something about a strategy game that I just feel, or something about a game that is not primarily trying to do real-time combat, that for me works better on the Steam deck.
Like, I've put in a bunch of hours in Kunitsugami Path of the Goddess on Steam Deck, and I had a great time playing that at night, and I feel like this is going to now fill that sort of strategy void.
Something about it just, it feels right.
It feels right being on the handheld, but yeah, it's super interesting.
And I think I saw that tweet retweeted by George.
And I replied, I was like, I just bought it, 15 bucks, let's do it.
You know, so I'm excited to check it up.
Final SuperShack comes from Sean who says,
I play Starfield on Windows.
So my save transfers back and forth between my Xbox.
I'm aware, I know.
That's what I was saying.
I wish I had started.
I wish I did it on Steam.
And so I would just have it there or that I wanted to jump through the hoops of getting Windows,
Xbox, whatever, running.
I don't want to do that.
I want to look normal.
What do we put up a new Patreon tier?
You can do Greg save stuff for him.
You could set it up.
Bring back Greg Miller Industries.
Exactly.
Exactly.
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Seeing people can't wrap their heads around it,
that hating PC is just a bit.
It's been fun.
Instead, let's talk about lost records, bloom and rage.
Of course, this is the next title,
Blooming Onion, hell yeah.
The next title from Don't Nod,
you know them from Life is Strange, Life is Strange, too.
Maybe you know them from Tell Me why, Twin Mirror,
and so on and so forth.
this is one that caught her eye when it debuted
obviously got us excited
it is a coming of age story
with a mystery wrapped up inside of it
and it's don't nod doing what don't nod does
which of course is the walking sim
narrative conversation piece kind of game
when do we first see it
because man I gotta tell you
I feel like there's a lot of games like this
that I never know
it's hard for me to tell them apart because I know one of them
they were there was also centered
around a band
but I don't think it was this one.
The one where it was just
yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.
Is that the game that you and Janet
both really wanted to love?
Yeah, no, that's not it. That's OFK.
That's, okay, gotcha.
Oh, I think there's another one
that's about a teen girl band.
Oh, mixed tape.
Mixed. Yep, that's it. Thank you, chat.
There you go.
Thank you.
Nailed it, nailed it, nailed it.
No, this is one that's not even so much
centered around the band
as it is around this quartet of girls
that you're seeing on screen right here.
The official description goes,
rewind back to the 90s
and live the defining summer
of four high school girls
as they forge bonds
through their growing friendship,
their punk band,
and an unexplained event
that will forever change their lives.
And so the hook of the game,
right, as you saw in the very beginning,
you see right here,
is that in 2022,
these two girls come back together,
Autumn and your character,
Swan.
I'm playing a Swan in this demo.
And you have this box here
that's wrapped in paper
that says it's for Blumen Rage, which was the name of the band, and it says open.
The thing here is, of course, it's 2022.
We then flash back to 1995 where you see all this footage here going on.
And something happens here.
That is, I don't know if it's otherworldly or horrific.
We don't know.
Even the preview ends in a very interesting spot.
And the girls agree never to hang out again and never talk to each other again until this
package randomly shows up in bringing Autumn and Swan back together here at the table.
I played an hour of this game.
it is a very early preview.
A game is coming out.
Tape 1 February 18th, 2025.
Tape 2, March 18th, 2025.
If you might remember,
it was supposed to come out this year,
but actually bumped when the Life is Strange game
with Max and Caulfield got announced
where they're like,
those are our old game.
We don't want to compete.
Like, let's, you know,
we're in a move over here,
try to get out of their way.
The demo is interesting, right?
Because it's very focused on the 1995 portion.
In fact, the 2022 version of like,
them showing up and putting it on the package.
And that I didn't even play.
I would flash back there and make dialogue choices a couple of times,
just sitting across from Autumn as an adult.
But then you'd go and actually play here.
And in between, I got like text on the screen that was very much, I think,
placeholder for the preview of like, this has happened.
We're catching you up.
We're throwing you around doing this different thing.
Did you only play it once?
I did.
Yeah.
So what, you think there might be differences?
I just wasn't sure, yeah, if there are different dialogue options showed you.
There are different dialogue options and different things and choices to make.
So that's there if you want it.
I just had a chance to play it yesterday,
so I didn't have another chance to run it and do it.
I obviously am in the tank for Life is Strange.
A great series, you know how much I loved that series,
how much I talked about it.
Don't nods been hit or miss, you know,
in terms of what they're doing since then,
and even for Life is Strange, too, to some regard.
But I love the swings they take,
and I love the chances they take.
And this one seems like it could be something really special.
I'm going off just an hour,
but you talk about the walking sim,
the narrative choice game,
whatever you want to call these, right?
And even in what you see there
of having the different dialogue pop up here,
make the choice, so on and so forth,
seems like, yep, that's don't nod,
that's life of strength, that's whatever it is.
Getting into the gameplay, playing a swan,
immediately it was like, oh, this is fucking cool.
Because she's a film geek, not a band geek, a music geek.
So the idea is that this happened
in a description I read.
it wasn't something shown to me, but she bumps into these girls, doesn't know them,
they save her from like a bully, then they invite her to band practice, right?
So I got this section that starts in, before that, in Swan's bedroom, you have to start
packing up because you're moving or whatever, right?
But she's obsessed with video, so it's 90, it's 1995, it's Michigan, you know, eject the
tape from your thing, you put it into the camcorder, and you go, then you as the player
are walking around recording in the room, right?
but it gives you the task of like make a video about your cat so you record different clips of the cat right
then you go in it's it's like a new memoir that's probably not right but the vignette i'm gonna say
that's not what they call it created you go into your menu and then they've taken your footage
and put it together and then it's got VO from like basically oh it's like when your phone makes like a
little movie for exactly but it's the VO of like giving you that i love the cat and this has been great
and dot to dot so it's like you you're you're
you're participating in unlocking more of the memory of what's going on and what's happening.
And then even when you jump ahead to me...
Wait, so who's the voice, what voice is narrating?
Swan is, but it's like...
The modern or the old?
It's old, but out of time where it is like, it's more like, she's in the moment doing it,
but not where it's like, it's not taking her out of her room to do it.
She's still in her room existing, but she is at that age is doing it.
It's not 22 you talking over it.
But 2022 you does talk over like one of the, when you jump to going,
to hang out with the band where you make a bunch of videos with them.
It is interspiced with modern or 2022 autumn and swan talking over it.
Like you knock something over and swan's like, ah, I was modern swan.
I was so nervous.
And she's like, oh, really?
I didn't even know.
But like, and so you're seeing them share the memory and talk over it, which was cool.
But then again, it's back to it of like, what if we made a music video?
And so you start filming them and getting B-roll and then you cut it's, then it's, you
jump in and it's cut together and it's telling you how cool the girls are and this,
that and the other and blah blah.
I was like, man, it's a really nice feature.
And like, I didn't go into the weeds of it, but at the end, towards the end of the
demo, they introduced like, you can go in there and edit it yourself if you want to and
like move clips around or put new clips in.
It's also like the unlockable, like hunting of it all right, where you're around
and doing it.
So it's like you whip out the camera and you see like the box around a hunting, what I
call it, the box, when you're up hunting from the tree stand.
Oh, like a, the tree stand.
Oh, like a.
Dear blind, thank you so much.
You see it, oh, and so you do it and like the little thing fills in.
It's like, okay, you've started the memoir of hunting.
It's like one of eight, but it's not all laid out.
So then you have to look around to find other things and then it might not all be there and da-da-da-da-da.
And so like this is a new mechanic to this type of game.
And I love the idea of it not being a music game number one, right?
But it also being like, what a fascinating way to experience this girl entering the friend group?
And not only that as an 80s kid, a 1983 kid, like, this feels, like when she went into the garage, which is where the band practice space is, but the couches are on the TV and the cassette tapes and the videotapes and all the, like, a little chill spot.
I've been in that basement.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I can smell that basement.
I lived these summers in the 90s.
And so it was like, whoa, that's fucking insane of how well they've set dressed it.
And, like, you know, there's the blockbuster tapes that aren't blockbuster.
But you know what I mean?
Like it's all the calling cards, the S&S is in an S&ES.
It's like, damn, I remember the sleepover, right?
And to have them all interacting and talking about and being that, you know,
teenage about to set off on their lives kind of thing is just so well done.
And then even them, you know, the idea is that they go into the woods to go film the music video to just go for a hike or whatever.
And they're, you know, you're getting the VO over it and talking about it.
But just kids fucking around with a video camera in the woods, right?
I'm like, I've done that before.
You know what I mean?
And hanging out and all the stuff.
It was like, awesome.
What are the sort of character archetypes?
Like, are you getting this little cast of characters
that you feel like you're going to fully explore
every character's sort of backstories?
Like, I guess the closest analog I can think of,
because I don't play a whole lot of games like this,
but are we getting like what seemed like maybe
Massific loyalty missions where each character might have a little thing
to kind of explore and find out about them?
Loyalty missions, no, I don't think, well, maybe, I guess, actually.
Because you figure, if you jump to the modern, right,
where you see Autumn sitting across the table,
that's the only modern characters we've seen.
So it is like there's,
I guess there is,
to bring them all back together,
we're going to have to go talk to them
and find out more.
But it was interesting even in this one play-through
where at one point,
so the characters are all very defined, I think.
Swan is who you're playing as.
She's a film girl.
She does not feel,
she feels completely out of place with these girls
because these girls are so cool
and they're such tight friends, right?
So she's the new one filming,
you know,
you pick the answer is like,
and it's like kind of kiss-assie
of leaning into what they're saying.
saying they like or do you want to not be that or you know figure that all out.
That was me one time I was in seventh grade and I was like, man, I love Limbiscuit.
And it's like, I liked them, but I didn't love them.
But I just said that because I was around eighth graders.
Sure.
I understand.
Yeah, it'd be cool.
Yeah, it'd be cool.
And then, yeah, Kat is very introverted, very quiet, but she's cool in the group or whatever.
Nora is like the punk one looking there who's like the lead singer and like it's her house.
And so I found a photo of her family pre-divorce.
And like, again, like, I picked it up.
in the 90s and looked at it.
And then in the 2000s,
Swan mentions it.
And Autumn's like,
oh,
I thought she hit all the pre-divorce stuff.
And it was like,
she didn't tell her in that moment
that she found it,
but they're talking about it in the future.
I like that angle of it.
And Autumn seems to be like the all-around athletic girl.
She's doing cartwheels and I'm recording her,
do that in the woods or whatever.
To your point, though,
of like,
how much do we get in the weeds with each of them?
One of the interesting choices was,
so we're filming in the woods,
just being a bunch of fuck about kids or whatever, right?
And they find like, they have like the locks, you know, like when you're like in Germany,
the locks you put on the bridge like the love locks where you write your name on a padlock
with your lover and you put it on the, you ever seen this?
No, I've never seen that.
This is a thing.
Is it like carving your name into a tree sort of thing?
Similar, yeah, but you get like a padlock and you like people write their names and anniversaries
on them and then put them on the thing.
Well, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Anyways, in this town in Michigan, apparently there's just like chain league fence where people do that.
Oh.
And so they find one reference.
Like a bubble gum wall in Seattle.
Exactly.
Mm-hmm.
They find one that's like reference there you go.
Thank you very much.
They find one that's like referencing this couple.
And so they start like doing a little improv session about it or whatever.
And yeah, yeah, they're playing things.
And like you can egg Nora and Kat into kissing.
Like not like, not like, you know, overtly sexual or anything like that.
Again, they're teens or whatever.
But they do it.
And then at one point like, like, Kat gets weird about it.
And so there was a moment where it was like, all right, we're going up ahead.
And Kat's like, hold on my time I shoe.
And you have the choice of like, am I going to go with them or hang back.
And I hung back with Kat and talk to her about it.
Yeah, exactly.
And it was her very much trying to explore her feelings of what just happened as well or
whatever. And I was like, oh, that's very interesting. Because it was, especially as an adult,
and we know how much about consent or anything else it was. Man, they were really pressure on
these people to kiss, which you didn't have to do, right? And the thing, it was just how the
story choices I made. Now, this is just so, this is just the most Greg Miller pocket.
That's why I love Don't know. Just a young adult discovering themselves, man.
I know, right? A little bit divorce in there, too.
Why not toss it in? Yeah. You throw in like a fear about the future. You're going to
catch you us. You're throwing a terminal disease. Yeah. Like, it's about to be over. And that's what
I'm interested to see is where this is going.
Yeah, that's what I was about to ask.
Like, do you get the sense that whatever this life-altering event is,
is it a murder?
Is it a supernatural?
So what, you know, what it cracked me up, I forget what it is, you know,
I didn't take a note on it.
It, to me, made it seem like Nora wasn't in the future,
the punk girl.
So I was like, oh, she's going to die somewhere in this demo.
Something bad's going to happen.
And it reminded me so much of spoilers for real life events.
when we all went and watched Selena
at the Alamo draft house
and Jen knew that Selena died
but didn't know how so every time
something happened she was like
when they were driving down the highway
and they all took their hands off the wheel
Jen thought they were gonna get a car
and the car wreck
and the moment where
her and fucking
what's his name
I don't like pepperoni is too hot
I'm really blanking on her boyfriend's name
I don't remember
I don't like pepperoni is too hot
they were sitting on a bridge
and at that point she was like
oh my God she falls off the bridge and drowns
It wasn't until you, Olando showed up and everybody booed.
Then they're like, okay.
Anyways, though, no, there was a scene in this where they get there, like, playing on a broken, like, I think it's in the, you saw them dangling their feet off or being on, like, the side of, like, a mountain pass with, like a broken.
And I was like, one of them's going to slip and fall down this fucking hill.
And that's what's going to happen.
Didn't happen.
Instead, what happens is they, we shoot this stuff, you know, for the thing.
And then there's a little bit of a flashboard till the next morning or day where they're like, we pop it in the TV and we change that right here.
We change the channels and you have to change the channel to the right.
input again because it's the 90s which I really appreciate it.
I love that. And then you start playing the footage of what they shot. And then it's like,
it's all totally normal for what you've done. And then you jump to like this like creepy
night wood footage that's like black and white. And like I think they changed like the lights in
the room. And Swan's like, oh my God, guys. I, I forgot about this. Like I don't, I don't, I don't
remember filming this. Or I just forgot that I filmed. And then it cut. And so it's like,
it seems like a supernatural like something happens and they,
film, I don't know, it's the same kind of, if you run the trailer again,
Bear, there's a thing in there where the lights kind of get freaky,
a little freaky spooky.
It was a very similar thing of that.
Yeah, this might even be when, yeah, like everything wigs out here or whatever.
So I imagine my thought is, yeah, something happens where they're out shooting at night.
One of them, I don't know.
From there, they go to investigate more.
Something happens.
I imagine one of them dies and then, or disappears at least.
And then you have this, you know, 20 years later, right?
of like 10 years later?
Well, I mean...
No, no, 30 year long.
Well, one thing we notice is in the trailer
during that sort of
this cataclysmic event,
maybe it wasn't even cataclysmic,
but whatever is happening in that moment,
one of the characters has this sort of light shine pattern
on her face.
Yeah.
And we see that same light shine pattern
on that box in the modern time.
It feels like there's got to be some sort of ghost
or something like that or whatever.
But it was awesome is like
I would have played the totally normal game.
film your friends.
It's the 90s. Go film your friends and fuck around
for a summer or whatever. You know what I mean? And go through the trials
and tribulations of teenagerhood versus
dropping something in here that's almost paper girls like,
I guess, towards the end. But I'm
fucking totally in. And not that I...
Not that I... Not that I...
But it's like, I'm more excited than I thought
I would be and I was already excited.
That's fantastic. Man, looking at Donod's website,
they just got a... They got a variety.
They publish a lot too. So it's one...
Right? Isn't that one of the... But like, looking back,
you know, they have this upcoming game...
Corey Ra, Coirah, Coirah.
Coming out in 2025, you can download a demo right now.
But also...
And they're publishing that, yeah, that's Studio Tomila.
Also, I'm just reminded of banishers and, like,
the amount of greatness that game has,
but it's trapped in a game that is, like, okay to play.
Yeah.
I really want to refinish, I want to go back and revisit banishers,
but...
You're never going to.
Having people in my chat told me that they've finished in, like,
60-something hours, like, dude, that is such a lot.
long freaking time.
But what I did experience was some of the best writing and acting that I had experienced.
And they've got such a great eye for freaking talent.
Yeah.
But like that game just needs to.
They need like a director's cut of, but it's.
The opposite.
It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They need the editor's cut.
Let's just give this person like the, these sort of ghostly interactions.
What a great freaking game.
Yeah.
Hopefully this one will be too.
Like I said, tape one for lost records, Bloom and Rage, February 18th, 2025.
Tape to March 18th, 2025.
Very excited about that one.
Yeah.
Very, very cool.
Excellent.
I'm happy for you, Greg.
I'm happy for you, because we got to hang out.
I'm happy that this game you look forward to is like shaping up to be great.
Man, we'll see.
I've been burned recently, you know?
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