Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - The 10 Best Soulslike Games, Ranked! - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Yo, what's up? Welcome to Kind of Funny Games cast for Monday, September 16th, 2024. I'm on your host blessing Adioia Jr. Today I'm joined by the LaCroy Pappy, Tim, Mo, William, Gettys. It's going to be a good one today. I feel it in my balls. We're also joined by the Nitro Rifle. Andy Cortez, do you feel it in your balls? I felt it in Tim's balls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Oh, yeah. Let's go around, everyone. Going around. I don't feel anything in my balls yet, but I'll let you know. Not yet. There's still time. Yeah. I'll update you drop the show.
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Starting point is 00:01:48 For now, let's start with Topka of the show. Tots, Tots, Tats, Tats, Tats, Tats. I wanted to get into Tots quicker than usual because we got a lot to break down. Yeah, we do. It is a shit list episode. Last time we did a shit list episode, we did three different lists.
Starting point is 00:02:03 The way I want to do it this time around, I got two lists picked out. Okay. Super chats, if there's a list out there that you want us to react to at the end of the show, right in with them. Okay. I think that'll be the fun way to do it. And we'll choose one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I'll choose one. Maybe too, if we have some time. We'll see how much time we have. Because the first one we're doing, I think we're going to spend a lot of time on this. Okay. It is the top 10 best souls like games. Okay. Now, if you're unfamiliar with the shit list, I go online.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I find a top 10 list. I bring it back to the crew here and we judge it for your amusement. Andy, I think this is your first my first one. Excited to be here. I'm excited to have you. That's the reason why I picked this one
Starting point is 00:02:43 because me and you and Mike, but Mike's not hearing you know, and bear also. We love some souls likes. Tim is a future soulslike lover. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't think that's in my future.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I think it is. I think it is. I think you have the souls like Gene and you is just about unlocking it. It's like being inhuman. Yeah. That's what happens to everybody, Tim. I was like, I'll never play these games
Starting point is 00:03:04 That's what I was like Before I played Bloodbored I was like, these aren't for me And then I played Bloodbored and I was like Oh, these are some of the greatest games Ever played. We were all stupid idiots at one point Yeah, like you just got to make it a franchise
Starting point is 00:03:15 That you care about, right? Like I didn't think I was gonna get into these games And then Star Wars Jedi came out, you know? Yeah That's as far as I think I'm gonna go But today's not about me No, it is No, it is.
Starting point is 00:03:27 This is an invention? Everybody else coming in here. We're not even live right now That's a fake chat. And of course, they have more lists and so we'll get some reserve for Tim. But for now, talking about the 10 Best Souls like, this is a list from IGN. This list was posted originally. November, 2023. It was updated January 24th, 2024.
Starting point is 00:03:46 This is all very pertinent information, Andy, because the site that the list comes from, it's either going to be like, okay, there was some editorial thought put into this and there was some oversight to some level, or it was from the gamer.com. And it's troll. And it's just fucking, like, they'll come up with. with a headline and you're just rolling the dice. Sometimes excellent lists. Now,
Starting point is 00:04:06 actual thought put into it. I do have an update here that's going to frame some lists and maybe spoil it a little bit, but it's important. This is an editor's note at the top of the article. Uh-oh. This list was originally published in February 2021. Okay. And last updated November 16th, 20203.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Changes include, I'm not going to spoil that one. And then they made a change. And when we get there, it'll make sense. and then they added in three newer releases bumping Lords of the Fallen, Code Vane, and Dark Siders 3 off the list. Oh, okay. Interesting. Dark Siders 3.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah, which is very interesting. I think put some context into what we're talking about with this list. Okay. So this is including from games. I don't think it is. Is it? Is it not? I would think the headline just the headline just says 10 best souls like.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So I would think it's including. Because that would be very silly for them. Like means that it's like a Souls game, which I think is just more of a shorthand of games that are like from games. You know what? Actually, here, I got the first paragraph for you. The legacy of From Software
Starting point is 00:05:11 Souls series isn't just defined by the amazing games that it's made up of, but also the subgenre that's been given life thanks to its very existence. The Soulslike. We last updated this list. So with all that said, let's take another look at our picks from the 10 best Souls likes, specifically
Starting point is 00:05:27 the ones that aren't developed by From Software themselves. Perfect. I just want it to be known that this sounds like a... Cop out? Yes. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Souls games are Souls likes. I'm just, I understand that you can also be like something. Yeah, but... Is Metroidvania? It's like, just because the word likes not there, it's the exact same thing. We're talking about a word to describe a genre.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So Metroid Games and Castlevania games count. If I saw a fucking top 10 Metroidvania list and Metroid or Castlevania games weren't on it, I'd be like, this is stupidest shit. I feel that. I agree with that, honestly. I've gotten to the point where whenever I am trying to describe these games, I'll say, like, for example, one game that I think will be on the list that I don't want to, like,
Starting point is 00:06:11 can we say a game? Yeah, now's the time. Yeah, I was all right. Okay. So, I'm going to write them down as we go. When I played Lies of P, I said, this is the best souls game that Frum didn't make. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And, like, sure, obviously, it's not a Souls game because it's not made by from software, but that's just kind of how I describe it now. Like this game is so to a T of what From Software would have developed if you would have told me, oh, the former lead developer or whatever on From Software, they worked on this game. Like, I would have believed it because that's how true to the core of like that's a From Software game. So Liza P, it's got to be on this list. I think Liza P. I'm going to say it's number one. I'm going to say it's number one on this list.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Now, this is what I want to do. We're going to do this list as it is. After this, I want to do our top five Souls games or Souls likes, including From Software. Okay. I like that. I like that. I wonder if it's like, I want to know where Liza P.
Starting point is 00:07:02 lies with. I'm curious, because I've still not played the Dark Souls games. And so I'm curious on Andy's input on that. But Liza P. We agree that's on the list. That's got to be number one for me.
Starting point is 00:07:13 That's what I would guess. So Liza P being number one. Just for my understanding of this, sounds like that it is a no-brainer. But are we not thinking hard enough? Is there something that we're missing here? Here's the thing. Is God of war,
Starting point is 00:07:26 would you call that? No. I would say no. I would say no. It's like Star Wars is more Souls-like than God of War. Yeah, and I don't think people are putting Star Wars over Liza P as a Souls-like.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So whenever I get input from the Souls community, because there's a lot way more hardcore fans out there that have been in the genre way before I even decided to step my little toe inside of it. And they always tell me that, Andy, you never played Neo 1 and 2? Neo 2 is one of the goats. Neo 2 was amazing. So I would say that
Starting point is 00:07:59 1 and 2 would be Liza P and Neo 2. And you know what else would be on the list that I know is definitely going to be on the list. Stranger or Paradise. Fantasy Reunion. God damn it, what a good game. Origins.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Origins, thank you. What a good awful game. Another one would be oh my gosh, I'm blanka. Are you thinking Wolong? Sci-fi game. Sci-fi. The something.
Starting point is 00:08:25 The. Oh, wait. The anorax. Is it the something manor? Is it like the... No, no, no, no. It's not the techno manor. The techno manor.
Starting point is 00:08:32 It's the surge. The surge. The surge. The aorax is close. That's actually what I meant. That's what I meant. Anorax is close. The surge two especially.
Starting point is 00:08:39 The surge two is like, apparently that's the one that everybody says, hey, if you're going to play a Souls like or a Souls game that is not made by Frumsoft, that's one of the top ones that everybody recommends. That's crazy. A lot of RECOs. So right now I've written down Liza P,
Starting point is 00:08:52 Neal 2, the Surge 2. Jedi. I also agree. agree, Jedi. Probably Fallen Order, right? The first one. Yeah, not Survivor. Oh, you think so?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah, I feel like Fallen Order is more souls-like than Survivor is. I know, like, all the different stances and stuff. I don't know why, but I just, like, I feel like... Interesting. I feel like we've fallen for this before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Where, like... I don't know, there were some boss fights... Like, kind of, no spoilers, but there were some boss fights, you know, the end of Survivor that were really fun and challenging, yeah. I just think that the novelty... I'm thinking more of the kind of like gameplay nature of it.
Starting point is 00:09:33 With the bonfires. Yeah, but also just like, obviously both the Jedi games are taking so much from so many different genres, but when you're talking about level design and kind of like bonfire placement and all of this stuff, I think of Fallen Order more as like a Souls like more so than Survivor. because Survivor gets more into like the open world kind of shit. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I feel like you're going to call one of Soulslike. I feel like automatically just both of them are going to fall into the category. Well, they both are, but I'm saying if we're talking about a list of best Souls likes, I think I personally think that Fallen Order is more of a Soulslike than Survivor. Interesting. If only one of them, I don't think both of them make the list. I don't think both them make the list, but I think the argument then becomes what's the better game. Yeah, and I think at that point, yeah, probably Survivor is the one on the list.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I know Bless is writing these down. Barr, can we also get like a little, uh, Visualization. Yeah. Like a, you know, put on like one of the smaller ones. Yeah, just like the shitty little OBS text. It ain't got to be fancy.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I'm not asking you to call in ILM, you know. A shout out to another crab treasure, which I don't think is not going to be on the list based on it being updated in November of last year. Well, they said January was also the most recent update, right, of this year? January is the one I said because it says updated. It might be like maybe they fixed a typo or some shit. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Because the thing actually says November 2023, November 16th. So no another craft treasure and then also no stellar blade. And also no black myth, obviously. I have another one to throw out. What's that? That will always get recommended in these lists. Even though I know where they're coming from and I know that at the heart of it, a lot of the DNA is still there, but I put it in another genre called Holo Night.
Starting point is 00:11:17 See, I was thinking about that. I was thinking about like the 2D games. This is an IGN list though. I feel like IGN tends to not. get cute. You know what I mean? Yeah. There's some of the list that they get cute trying to come up with like they have a point to make, they make a whole list just to prove a point. So what are the like I know it's Metroidvania at its core, right? But the idea that you drop your souls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 When you die, you have to go collect them back or else you lose them if you die again, which is like a really, really very important mechanic if you want to like be leveling up and not falling kind of behind the, behind the eight ball. Is that a saying? Behind the curb? Like when Mike said that one time? It's behind the eight. ball behind the eight ball that almost that sounds like a phrase that is a phrase in a different timeline like our timeline it's a different kind of ball um so you have to you drop your souls you got to go pick them up again it's got challenging boss fights with very telegraphed moves that you have to kind of
Starting point is 00:12:09 memorize they've got their sort of boss patterns it's a 2d souls life I'm with it I I'm with it too and on this top because one of the things we didn't we failed to do was define what a soul's like is because I'm sure people probably argue yeah he just is a great So, like, look, I've been arguing with people on the internet for this about a goddamn year now. Because anytime I want to show off a game that has big, grandiose boss fights that you walk into an arena, the music pops off. You see the title, the big health bar pops up at the bottom with the name of the guy. And it's always something like the magnificent, maleficent magnonious or whatever. And that's the name of the boss.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And he's just gigantic dude. he has two phases and if he hits you once or twice you're fucking dead and you have to be really really careful about dodging at the right time and if you start your attack you are stuck to that animation
Starting point is 00:13:03 you cannot dodge out of it it is it's punishing in that way and that's like when I see those boss fights I'm like clearly this was inspired by a From Soft video Now my question is if Hollow Night's on this list is it above Lysopi
Starting point is 00:13:17 because I think I think popular opinion would be that Hollow Knight is better than I think it's a better game but I don't think it would be a better soul's life. I think that this list they're trying to judge things
Starting point is 00:13:30 on how similar they function if they're not including from software games I think it's how similar do how close do they get if you're looking for a from software game that's not how much of the boxes
Starting point is 00:13:39 if someone called a souls like yeah so are you getting you know let's go down the list big magnonious magnificent boss fight right you get that That's big boss fights is one. I'll say bonfire.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Bonfires? Yeah, bonfire checkpoint system. The idea of dropping your souls. Yes. The idea of enemies respawning. When you hit the bonfire. If you hit the bonfire. If you decide to go back and rest and get your health back,
Starting point is 00:14:06 some upcoming games like Phantom Blade Zero is a game where they're saying, hey, we don't want to punish you that much. We don't want bad guys to come back. Which is like an interesting change. So I would say enemies respawning is a very soulslike thing. if you decide to rest and get your health back. It has to actively dislike you as a person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:27 A little bit. It's got a, you have to be really, really frustrated. You have to get patient Pete with it. You can't just assume you're going to run through it like any old video game. It's going to test you, right? Difficulty, I think, is a big portion of it. As well as, and then we get into the nitty-gritty of it, where I've had some people in replies and comments go,
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, but it doesn't have from software shortcuts and level design. It's like, okay, not all game. You shouldn't expect that because that's something from software does. It's really, really, really damn good. That's why it's called a like, not a soul's game, you know? Well, no, but some games try to do that and they're just not as good at it. Yeah. I think Liza P is an example of like it has shortcuts.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I think a lot of them are great, but it's like, Frontsoft is just on another level when it comes to that level. Just to be clear, too, about the Souls-like thing. This shit pisses me on. Yeah, yeah, me too. So is Blood-Born a Souls-like or a Souls game? Because it doesn't have fucking souls in the goddamn thing. I think when you say Souls game, that's part of the, it's part of the soul series. You're literally talking about demon souls and they say Souls.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. They say Soulsborn at that point. Oh, now they're saying Soulsborn. Sol's born. Oh, I forgot about Soulsborn. We're saying Soulsborn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:33 What about when Sekro will fall into this fucking shit, huh? So, oh, that, don't unlock that. Before we went live, I saw people in chat arguing because Sechro is in the, is in the thumbnail. And people are like, Sechro is not a Souls game. And other people are like, oh, it's a Souls game. So, like, and people can't agree on this shit. I think it's the same thing of like RPG system versus or RPG elements versus what makes you an actual RPG and there's so much gray area into it that I just choose not to read into it because it's too much. Like when I play when I played Stellar Blade like this is a this is more of a souls like to me than it is a devil may cry or a bayonetta.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah. It's got like these not only these really really hard boss fights, but it just because it has flashy animations and just because. it does like crazy camera angles when you go and do that awesome move, that doesn't mean that it isn't more like a Souls game than it is like a character action game, right? Like just because it's more flashing over the top doesn't mean that it belongs more in that bucket, in my opinion. Yeah. It's a tough one because I could see the argument, the opposite argument of Stellar Blade, just because Stellar Blade has a poppiness to it that doesn't feel Soulslike, right? Like the abilities where it is, you like, pop, blah, blah, blah. And like, you know, you have, you
Starting point is 00:16:48 have almost that, like, ability wheel of abilities that doesn't feel souls like at all? Well, that's the flashiness I'm talking about, because Eldon Ring and Dark Souls 3, they have your weapon arts. That is true. They have your flashy abilities that if you are, if you're running, let's say, an intellect slash, like, strength build, you'd have a lot of spells that you could do while you're also swinging your sword and trying to dodge and do these, like, you know, easily telegraphed attacks or whatever. Like, there's, you can make a
Starting point is 00:17:20 soul's game look very, very flashy and over the top. Yeah. In ways that isn't just you know, you know, a caveman do with a shield and a fucking club, you know what I mean? Like, there's ways to make that game look really over the top. It's just, I think the anime nature of Stellar Blade people go, oh, that's closer to a character
Starting point is 00:17:37 action game. And I just fully disagree because that game requires you to not only have perfect dodges, but also the perfect deflections like Sekiro. Ding, ding, ding, thing. That in me comes through with a swing, swing, swing, swing, and then a long hesitation, bam, big heavy, and you can choose to do all of that at the right moments. But is that more of a Sekiro like, Tim?
Starting point is 00:17:59 You ever think about the fact that... Maybe it's like a god of warlike, you know? That the legend of Zelda is just a top-down, Castlevania, Metrovania? Think about it. I mean, Batman Arkham Asylum is a Metro-D-D-Metroredvania. Mario, just a Wokingson. I'll throw, I'm not played it, but Salt and Sanctuary gets thrown around a lot. That's a good one
Starting point is 00:18:18 That is a very very good one I would throw that on the list It's funny because we've only had We only have like six games here now Yeah that's what's weird about this Is I felt like 10 Would be very easy to come up with But it
Starting point is 00:18:29 I feel like we're already getting a little crafty The fact that they don't have They said they got they bumped Lords of the Fallen Code Vane and Dark Siders Damn mortal Shell Oh mortal Shell Did people fuck with Mortal Shell? I mean Mortal Shell did
Starting point is 00:18:40 Decently in reviews It got like six and a halfs And a halfs and stuff But it wasn't anything that everybody was like blown away by. Because now it's like getting into the bag of are we running out here? Like, but also if you're bumping off Lords of the Fallen,
Starting point is 00:18:54 like do people like Moro Shell more than Lords of the Fallen? I don't know. I feel like if Lords the Fallon isn't on this list, mortal Shell probably isn't on this list. Are there 2D Souls likes that were that were not thinking of? We already wrote down Hollow Night. We wrote down Salon Sanctuary. Oh, somebody in chat says,
Starting point is 00:19:11 Won Long Fallen Dynasty, which I like that game. I feel like Neo takes that spot I think Neo would be the better representative. I don't know if we're getting two games from I always want to say platinum. Coie Tecmo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I mean, we can probably just get into it. Let's get into it. I want to see where this goes. All right. So we're talking about the top 10 best souls like games. Note the word best. Ooh. What's up? Remnant. That's good. That's very good. It's a third-person shooter. It's not melee necessarily, but... Remnant two?
Starting point is 00:19:46 I would put Oh Oh, maybe Remnant 2 bumped out One of those games Yeah I feel like the time Yeah, because when did Remnant 2 come out? The date definitely
Starting point is 00:19:54 It was like last July 2023 Yeah Yeah, I would put Remnant 2 in there That's also a reminder That's a good fucking game dude Before we go into this list This was updated November
Starting point is 00:20:04 2023 What happened November 20203 Was that Liza P? What happened? Liza P came out in like October I think September I thought it was like February It might have been September 20th
Starting point is 00:20:15 Didn't even come out in 2020? It did. It was on our top 10. That feels so long ago. Wait, what happened, November, 2023? I don't know. Was that Sonic Frontiers? No, that was 2020.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah, who knows? Maybe they're just like people, maybe it was Black Friday. People fucking with Souls likes. Code Vane. They said they bumped it off the list. Oh, shit. So this list might be bangers.
Starting point is 00:20:38 It might be 10 bangers. Let's get into it. Coming in. And number 10, we got Ashen. Oh. Ashen. I've heard quite a bit about Ashen.
Starting point is 00:20:48 This is from the makers of Sifu? Oh, Sifu's got to be on the list. You think Sifu's a Sos like? I don't know if Sifu's a soul. I wouldn't call Sifu's like. But also Ashen, I don't think Ashton's from that studio. Is it, Chad? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Because that's the other game. Oh, I can't remember the name of it. It is not Human Fall Flat. But it's, what is it? Chaut's going to bring it. Absolver. Absolver. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I always get that wrong. But it has that art style. It looks a lot like Exolver. Yeah, it always reminds you of Obsolver. I always get them mixed up. One that I always wanted to try out. And number nine. It is from Studio A4, A44,
Starting point is 00:21:31 and Anerpern Interactive. That's crazy. At number nine, we got Stranger in Paradise. Stranger in Paradise Final Fantasy Origin. I tried to tell y'all. Oh, shit. Shout to my goat. I mean, it's got.
Starting point is 00:21:45 It's got the shortcuts. It has the level design. It's 1,000% A-Sol's like. Yeah. I don't know if I'm saying. It's one of the best souls like. Man, what a good time this is. That's great.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Good for them. That's a fun one. It's a special one. I don't give a fuck who you are. It's honestly, because Strangier Paradise, I think, critically, has so many issues. And it's like, it's popcorn. It's a popcorn video game in so many ways.
Starting point is 00:22:10 But I think it works well in that way. I had a blast playing through this video game, even though I would never. put it on like my top 10 game of the year list, unless I did chat. I can go look. Double check me if I put
Starting point is 00:22:25 this on my top 10 list. What year was that? 2022, I think. I don't think I'll put this. Hold on, hold on. But this game is a fucking blast. That's so funny. It's a blast for a lot of the wrong reasons, but also a lot of the right reasons. It's just dumb. It's dumb fun. And sometimes it's all you need.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Hell yeah. A stranger of paradise seems to not have been voted on at all. Okay. That makes sense. Hey there, Jack, you can enter the hotel right now. Nah. It's just that nonstop, dude. At number eight, we got, oh, Lords of the Fallen in 2023. Now, that's confusing.
Starting point is 00:22:59 They bumped off the first one. That makes sense. Okay. Because I was like, really Stranger Paradise is on here before Lords of the Fallen. That makes sense. Real frustrating game. I did not get too far into Lords of the Fallen. I want to play co-op because I've heard that's a much easier way to digest the video game.
Starting point is 00:23:15 but it had some, I know they fixed a lot of stuff based on a lot of like feedback, but man, they were moments where you are just, you're being punished by just taking on these random mobs of enemies and then random flying dudes would target you from what felt like a goddamn mile away. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:23:33 dude, this game is really frustrating in a lot of bad ways. And it had some really frustrating runbacks. A lot of cool concepts though. Interesting ideas. I loved the idea of you would, you would, when you would die, Tim, you would be sent to, like, a shadow world.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And you had to fight your way out of the shadow. But it was always, like, a different version of the world that you were in. Yeah, like, they created the world twice. Yeah, so they're, like, they basically just designed the whole game in two different versions, like a light and a dark world,
Starting point is 00:24:01 very Zelda-like or whatever. But the way that they would do that visually was so badass. It wasn't just, like, let's put a filter on this. It's, like, all the 3D models would change. And you'd be running around some places, and you would see, like, you would sense.
Starting point is 00:24:14 that, oh, there's a walkway here. And you could switch to the dark world, walk on that dark world walkway, and then go back to the light world and suddenly it was gone, but now you are just kind of getting to the level easier. It had a lot of badass ideas, but man, it was just, it was just frustrating enough to make me not want to try to beat it. And number seven, we got Wollong Fallen Dynasty. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Which is making me think that there aren't 10 bangers that aren't from software. Because I'm like, including both Stranger Paradise and Wollong Fong Dynasty. and Wolong Fallen Dynasty makes me think that like we just had to find Soulslake. It's a fun game. It's a very okay game. But it's like a, we did it on our five
Starting point is 00:24:53 point scale, right? And I think all of us gave it a three out of five. And I think that's accurate, right? Like on a 10 point scale, I'm giving it like a six or seven. I'd give it a six right now, yeah. Still like a, hey, if you're desperate for something, this is going to have fun enough boss fights.
Starting point is 00:25:08 But everything else surrounding it just not great. If you like Perry's, this is a good, This game has a good pair. Yeah. It's like a dodgy and a pair he put into one. It's very fun. At number six, we got the surge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:20 They do the surge series. Okay. That's cheating. You got to fuck out of here. Yeah. Which I don't like, but... Respect the list. And number five.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I really want to try out. Salt and Sanctuary. Ah, there it is. Number five. Just never love the art style of these games. I feel like they're the very sort of flash anime where everything is like built like a puppet where you don't have actual like 2D anime. it's like
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, you like, you move the arm and it just didn't, I didn't love the way it's game looks. It looks very goth castle crashers, you know. Now we're down to top four. We've not seen Remnant. We've not seen Star Wars. We've not seen Neo.
Starting point is 00:25:58 We've not seen Hollow Night and we've not seen Liza Pete. Holy shit. What is not going to make the list from there? I think Star, Star. I think Hollow Night. I think maybe they don't look at Hollow Night as the Souls like. That's crazy. If they put Salton Sanctuary there, I think they have to.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I don't know that they do. I mean, I think Holonite. is still probably here, but I feel like this is clearly a Sol's Like, whereas Hollow Knight is clearly a Metroidvania that you can then kind of convince yourself also Soulslike.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You know what I mean? I think it fits the Metroidvania molded up to where you can make the argument that it doesn't belong. And I totally agree with that. It's just whenever I look at these lists, Holo Night is always feature. And I go, I guess so, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:36 And number four. Remnant 2. Ah, what a good ass video game. God dang. Yeah, we literally have three left. We got three spots left. At number three, lies at peak. Oh, whoa. Oh, wow. Number three. No way.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Hollow night's got to be on this list. Holland has to be on this list. Yeah. Hold on a second. We now have two spots left. It's going to be, it's going to be Neo 2. You think they leave off Star Wars? So that's the thing. Can you actually put Star Wars as number one? No. I feel like that would not be mad. I could see it. I'll be mad. I could see it. I'll be mad. I could see I could see Star Wars Jedi Survivor
Starting point is 00:27:14 because people like those Star Wars games a lot. I mean, I love it, but I think that's fine. Like, Jedi Fall in Order, one of my favorite games of all times. That'd be insane to have it above Liza P and what people say. I fucking hope it is so I can say I beat the Nileged's number one. I agree with my personal, in personal taste, I agree that Liza P, fucking way above it,
Starting point is 00:27:36 especially when you're talking about SoulsLikes. Yeah. But who knows? Oh, gosh. And number two, we got, No. Star Wars, Jedi, Survivor. So number one is either Neo.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Neo or Holo Night. It's got to be Holo Night, right? It's not even a better game than Liza P. Like, it's not a better soul's like. It's not a better game. That's crazy. I mean, I disagree with it. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Is it an easier recommendation maybe to people if it's like, oh, you play? But is that the goal of the list? Or is it to say what are the best souls like? They do say the word best. They use the word best. Not what's the easiest to recommend of the Soulslike genre. I beat the number two best soul dead, bitches. Coming in,
Starting point is 00:28:21 Hollow Night. And number one, we got... Wow. Wait, hold on. Neo-Series. We got Neal series, but when you scroll down,
Starting point is 00:28:29 honorable mention goes to Hollow Night. Can you read it? Because I want to see their fucking words. Also, again, enough of the series bullshit. Yeah. No. Disgusting work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 This is disgusting work. So honorable mention goes to Hollow Night. They say, while undeniably inspired by Dark Souls in many ways, Hollow Night doesn't really play like other games on this list in practice. It shares similar storytelling style of letting you piece together the history of its world and your role within it, though more subtle dialogue and rich lore, as well as that familiar death mechanic of having to reach the place you died to retrieve your money, but its combat, progression, and movement systems are extremely different from the soul's setup.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Most notably the lack of a Stamina meter. Oh, we even talk about the Stamon Ameter. That is a very soul's thing right there. Yeah. And while there are other games on this list that also lack a stamina meter, there's also a significantly more forgiving healing system that doesn't rely on reaching enemy resting checkpoints to refill. That's another, the healing system is also very soulslike. Fights themselves are also far more reminiscent of platformers like Castlevania or even Mega Man
Starting point is 00:29:28 than the patient timing-focused encounters of a Soulslike game. So while Hollow Knight is an incredible platformer that certainly owes its Stark Souls inspiration a lot, its gameplay doesn't actually use from SOP's signature style to the extent, to the same extent, as others on this list. I think the storytelling is almost exactly the way
Starting point is 00:29:48 Souls does their sort of, you pick up an eye, there's not anybody going to be telling you straight the fuck up. You don't hit the end of a chapter where you get a cutscene. You don't ever have like any cutscenes, really. You're just talking to NPCs
Starting point is 00:30:01 and you're putting together lore through item descriptions. Like that is from software right there. Yeah. So at the end of going through a list, Andy, we do a thing where you rank the list. We do, is it the shit? A thumbs up or is it shit, which is a thumbs down? Is it the shit or is it shit? I think the fact that you have Jedi Survivor over Lies of P makes me angry enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Even Jedi Survivor over a Remnant 2. No, Jedi Survivor was an okay game. It was pretty good. I liked it. I would give this I would still give it shit for the fact that Liza P wasn't number one. I also am giving it the one thumbs down
Starting point is 00:30:45 shit list because of the inconsistencies between series and not series. A couple bizarre choices. And yeah, I just feel like overall, not an offensive list necessarily. It's not like, I can't believe they didn't have this or this. They explained why they didn't have Hollow Night.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I respect that. Yeah, this, again, this was harder to come up with the 10 than I thought it was going to be. and they, I think, respected the predictions. Yeah. I think the parameters, at first I was kind of upset with, like, oh, you're making a Soulslike list, but you're not actually including from soft games.
Starting point is 00:31:16 But I respected for the idea of, like, you want to add variety. You want to, like, open people's eyes to the, you know, the amount of Souls likes there are out there. But when the bottom half of the list is like, you know, yeah. Yeah, it's like, you know, you got games here that aren't as exciting of recommendations when he gets to something like, you know, Wollong or Stranger or Paradise Final Fantasy Origins. it's like, okay, well, then did you need to do that?
Starting point is 00:31:38 I feel like a stronger list would have had Eldon Ring at the top and had freaking, you know, you should just include the Front Soft games. And if you really wanted to make the notation of we're only going to include one per franchise, that way you don't have three Dark Souls games taking up the entire list, right? Dark Soul Series. Or you just do Dark Soul series. I want to give it a thumbs up just because it's not that bad of a list, especially talking about a list that we've done before, but I think I still have to give it the thumbs down.
Starting point is 00:32:05 So that is the IGN list for the 10 best Soulslight games. We do have a few super chats. I want to shout out real quick. Alex Frazier writes in and says posting again because I'm stoked, paying my American tax. I got approved for U.S. citizenship today. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:21 That's awesome. Well, good. A better time to join. No better time to join. Cody writes in and says, before playing Eldering, I was not a Souls guy. Now I'm a masochist and want more. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Eric writes in it says, man up, Andy. Time to play Lords of the Fallen in 2023. Man, I just don't want to. It's just not good enough. Damn. I agree, though. There are a lot of those games where it's like, I don't think this is good enough and I'm not having fun enough to go through the misery,
Starting point is 00:32:50 you know? Like, when I played the other games, I'm like, this is clearly some goaded stuff that I really, really want to, you know, at least work through the punishment. But Lords of the Fallen was not good enough, I don't think. And then Kuma here says, my knowledge slash understanding of Soulslike starts and ends with Vati video. Those are all the Super Chats we have so far. Remember, if you want us to react to a list, write in with a link, and we'll choose possibly one of you.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And we'll react to that list. You're going to have to do that through a Super Chat. For now, Andy, real quick, rapid fire. Top five Soulslike games, including the From Soft games. Oh. Individual entries. Because I always... Individual entries.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Because number one is always a tie. I don't know it's a cop out. number one is always a tie between Elvin Ring and Bloodborn Yeah I'd refuse to I refuse to I think Bloodborn is
Starting point is 00:33:42 By the way everybody I think Bloodborn is the cooler video game I think Eldon Ring is like Just Go for a hundred million hours Andy will be doing on Gamescast I think on Wednesday this week His official Bloodborn
Starting point is 00:33:56 The Old Hunters review Yeah We'll be getting a lot more actual thoughts about what you're giving it on the kind of funny scale and all that. Yeah, exactly. I just finally played through the DLC for the first time. I saw somebody say skill issue
Starting point is 00:34:07 because I wouldn't play Lords of the Fallen. I beat Orphanococan in about an hour, so get out of my face with that. So, Tide, Elder Ring of Bloodborn. Cop out, but okay, I'll accept it. Cop out. Number two. Oh, this is so hard, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:22 This is so hard. It is tough because I can't think of my number one. I would go, because you love them for different reasons. Yeah. Dark Souls 1 is the best level design I've ever played in my life, ever experience. Dark Souls 3 has some of the best boss fights. I would put Dark Souls 3 at number 2.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I know you'd probably go number 3 because like one in one. You know what I mean? Yeah. We don't do that here. We should. We did it on the goadie list, you know. We don't do it that way. It's our thing.
Starting point is 00:34:52 It's our list. It's like the Stu Gott's thing, right, Bear? That's my list. It's my list. My list. You make your own list. Yeah, make your own game of the year. Number three would go
Starting point is 00:35:00 Dark Souls 1. Number four would be Sekiro. So you are including Sekiro. Is the Soulslike? And number five would be Liza P. I put Liza P over Demon Souls. Fair enough. Only one Soulslike that's not a Souls game.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Makes Andy's top 5.5. Top six list. Yeah, yeah. I saw somebody in chat that was like, Blessing hasn't played enough from Soft to make a From Soft list. That's why I'm saying top Souls likes. I'm also not played through Lords of the Fallen either.
Starting point is 00:35:37 If you took number two through five of mine and like randomized it, I'd be okay with it as well. Yeah, that's my thing with like, if I'm saying my top three, my top three are going to be Eldon Ring, Sekiro, Bloodborn, and you can rearrange that in any order. If I'm going to commit to an order, I think I would say, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:55 It is you love them for different reasons. I'm going to say Eldon Ring number one. Secreo number two Fuck is Sacro number one I'm gonna stick to Secro number two Secro number two
Starting point is 00:36:08 Bloodbore number three Lies of P number four Holo Night even though I've only played the first hour And I guess I would say Jedi When I play the Dark Souls games
Starting point is 00:36:26 Eventually that'll change But I can't believe Eldon Rings Not easily your number one The way that I see you glow about Eldon Ring, it's like, oh, this is Andy's favorite thing. It's, it's, it's only that Bloodbourne was my first and you'll never forget your first. True. But after, but like upon just re-experiencing it for the first time in four years or whatever, like, it's just reminding me after every moment of like, hey, this is why I'm the fucking goat, dude.
Starting point is 00:36:53 You know, like not only the lore, the coolness factor, I think Lance McDonald put it perfectly. Or maybe I'm not sure of those Lance McDonald or Vati video who put it on like Twitter one day of like, Elder Ring is the best souls like. Bloodbourne is the coolest. Bloodborn's just got the cool factor of you are a hunter. You're talking to German in the hunter's dream and he's like, go out and hunt beasts. That's what hunters do. And you're like, all right, I'm going to go do that. And then it just unravels into this cosmic horror story.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And it's like one of the coolest things ever, man. It's so fucking good. Also, I just remember that I like Stellar Blade more than Star Wars. And so I'm replaced my number five with Stellar Blade, actually. I like that. I never beat Cellar Blade. I'm like right near the end, though. I really like it.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Boss fights are great, yeah. We're going to move on to our second list. But before we do, I want to tell you about patreon.com slash kind of funny and YouTube. com slash Kind of Funny Games where you can get the Kind of Funny membership, which allows you to get shows ad free. And speaking of ads, Let us tell you about our sponsors. This episode's brought to you by Shady Rays.
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Starting point is 00:40:00 Subscription required. Price varies based on product and subscription plan. And we're back with our second list. The top 10 game over screens. See, okay, this is great. Because the first topic, I'm like, what do I have to add to this? Yes. Losing it video games, I'm so familiar with that.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Like, I go, I can do this. This is great. It's hard for me to come off the top. Oh, Resident Evil. Metal Gear Solid. You died. Metal Gear Solid is the easy number one.
Starting point is 00:40:30 But the fonts, you know, the mainly like the green and all that. Yeah, yeah. You said Resident Evil was the first? I would say Resident Evil. Yeah, you died. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And speaking of you died. You were dead. What of any of the Souls games? Just like. I'd say just Dark Souls one. Dark Soul would be it, yeah. Majora's Mask. Yes
Starting point is 00:40:52 The fucking moon coming down It's so overly dramatic It's so fucking cool Here's the thing It won't be on the list But Barrett will be with me The Donkey Kong 64 Yes
Starting point is 00:41:02 You know what I mean Okay so the whole premise Of Donkey Kong 64 guys I got King K rule He's got his like a big ass Boat and he's gonna try to blow up The entire like DK aisle Right
Starting point is 00:41:14 And if you fuck up If you like lose or whatever It's King K rule Like laughing And then it's his like ship blowing up D.K. It's like it's his final smash. It's Spass Brothers and that's why
Starting point is 00:41:27 that's the game over screen fucking kicks ass. It's so good. That is awesome. It will never make this list but like it deserves. I'm putting it I'm running it down. Hell yeah. Yeah I Major's mask I just love the moon one but I also really like just the
Starting point is 00:41:43 original Zelda one would Ganon's like a whole ho ho ho ho oh is that he like laughs or does Zelda too I think that might be Zolda too I think that's all the two maybe. That to me, I mean, that shit sticks with me. Yeah. Man, I'm, I'm, oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:41:59 Mario World. There's just something I love about the, like that sound effect is just so adorable. And like it sticks in my mind. That is a really nice tune. GTA, like the wasted. Oh, yeah. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Absolutely. Yeah. Street Fighter 2. The end screen. Go home and be a, A family man. Got the countdown. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Their faces all beat off and shit. All right. Yeah. I'm feeling it. I would, I don't. This is a tough one because, like, are they going to do full series and, like, all this stuff? I should shout out. This is from Game Rant.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And it was updated May 14th, 2020. So it's a few years old. I was going to just Batman Arkham in general. Like, whenever you die, it's like, it's always different depending on where you're at in the story. But, like, if you're going after Mr. Freeze in Arkham City, it's, it's, Mr. Freeze talking shit to you. In Arkham Asylum, a lot of the times it's Joker talking shit to you, but then sometimes it's
Starting point is 00:43:00 Harley, sometimes it's killer crack. I know that's like a weird kind of like amount of... Spoilers, I never played it, bro. Have you really never played the Arkham News? He does it just too upset me. I never play it. You're really good. I feel like you really like them. You should check out the James Cameron's
Starting point is 00:43:15 avatar. It's better than the other avatar. Wait, well... Oh, you're trying to piss Barrett off. Pissing me off and the process. Listen, I was just trying to keep the mic muting bit to that one episode, but don't fucking take it to do you. I also have to say, man, we went on that DK64 rant
Starting point is 00:43:31 hit the mute button. GoldenEye. The fucking mold. Filling the screen. Yeah, that's real good. That's really damn good. We got a list right here, man. And I feel like we're not, I feel like we're barely scratching the surface because yeah, we got Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Dark Souls,
Starting point is 00:43:47 Majores Mask, Super Mario World, GTA, Street Fighter 2, Arkmas Island. I just got Street Fighter in their head now. And Golden Eye. So we have written down. nine games. Okay. Let's add one more to like have 10 there. It's a game over screen. Yeah, what's one we believe in?
Starting point is 00:44:05 Like we don't believe in the other ones? I'm just going... No, but like I want one last one. I don't want to just throw one there. Can I tell you a game over the screen that I hate? Or at least a dying screen that I hate. I guess game overs don't happen anymore. Uncharted. I hate dying and uncharted. I mean, actually I think that's like the like the rag doll. Yeah, like the rag doll and then like the screen kind of like going black and white and like... Nate! No! Yeah. And then like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I don't fuck with it. Oh, God! I don't fuck with it. Something about it pisses me up. Very intense. Yeah. It's the funniest unchartered four where you're doing the kind of casual conversations, like, in Madagascar, and then you accidentally drive over a cliff. It's like a casual conversation.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Oh, God, no! It's great. It's a great meme. I'm blanking. I'm trying to go through, like, franchises right now. Yeah. And I'm having a hard time thinking of one that really, really, really steep. sticks out because I'm going through like Mega Man doesn't really have anything they just show you a
Starting point is 00:44:59 password it's a little music you know um Sonic doesn't really have any I mean the ring actually that's not true Sonic is is I don't think it's going to make the list but the old school Sonic games where it's like the sad busted version of the Sonic theme song and then you see Sonic and tails all fucking sat it's like there's like there's like there's a spotlight on them and it's like oh yeah I think we're like in a lot hold on I'm just thinking of like the one one thing that tortured me all year. The stupid fucking horn in Mario Sunshine.
Starting point is 00:45:33 What a fucking bad time that was. Mario 64, that one's fine. Because I went to send you back to like that like the start screen or whatever with Mario's face, but he's all sad and shit. I will say I think a disconnect here
Starting point is 00:45:53 that I'm even catching with myself, you know, because I said golden eye, right? That's not a game over screen. Yeah. That's just a death screen. And neither's the Grand The Otto one. But like, I mean, there's a lot of these, though. I think they're going to play with the rules a lot here.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I think, I think it's like, Millier's solid. That's a game over screen, but it's also just a death. Yeah. Like those aren't, they don't have actual game over. Well, there's just so many games nowadays that don't even have the feature of a game over. Yeah. Like, of you having to restart because you lost on your lives. And I don't think that this list is going to limit themselves to games that have like
Starting point is 00:46:22 a certain amount of lives or whatever, you know? Like, that's just like what we think of when we think of death screens is just the game over. Because we were thinking game over, like you bringing up arcade, then it's like Time Crisis 2, House of the Dead. Like, you know, like I do like the game. You have no money. You like a good countdown. Like the Tekken countdown from 10 to 1, where you have that time to put in your quarter. I fuck with that.
Starting point is 00:46:43 House of the dead. I don't know if that's on the list, but I fuck with that. Someone in the chat, and I'm just wondering this one, Andy, who's Mass Effect. Is there like a Mass Effect death screen that, like? I just woke something up in two I mean it was very similar to Uncharted where it's like the slow-mo Ragdoll
Starting point is 00:46:59 music kind of plays This one deserves to be on the list But just there's injustice in the world So I don't think it will be But Prince of Persia stands at time One of the coolest Dets and Gameovers ever Because the whole sense of time
Starting point is 00:47:15 It's him kind of narrating the story To somebody So it's like you hear VO from the prince Of like And then this happened Then you actually like play through it when you die. He's like,
Starting point is 00:47:24 no, no, no, that's not how that happened. But let's take that back. And then it's like, and it's like, that's cute. That's cool. Chat calling out Hades is pretty good too.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Like, you dying and the game, the game over up top and it's like, your adventure doesn't end here. Yeah. Whatever that. Like, there's always like some sort of narrative thing
Starting point is 00:47:41 that it plays into. Yeah, that is cool. Here's my question. What happened in like May 2020? Is that when the list got updated? Yeah, updated May 14th, 22.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Tears of the kingdom, but like... Is there a Zelda game? Wait, no, was that last year? That was last year. Oh, yeah. Fucking Christ. Yeah, the Zelda, the tears and breath of the wild ones, like, I mean, I've definitely seen it a lot.
Starting point is 00:48:05 They're cute, just, but they're nothing special, but like, I like that their, their color will change depending on, like, elements and little stuff like that, but it's not like a holy shit. Like, this is really cool. Here's the thing. I saw a tweet over the weekend. That was like, games that have fucked up moons are always fucking cool, right? True.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I think that was from Imron. Was it Imron? I think so. Because I think one of the references people made was like Majora's Mask. Yeah. And Majores Mask. Is the game overstreen the moon crashing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Oh, you already mentioned. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right, cool. I was listening. Steve Martin was a rock on. Eldon Ring came out in 2020, early 2020, around that time. I've not played this game in a while, but I feel like Asuers, Asuers Rath probably has
Starting point is 00:48:52 a sick-ass game overscreen. I cannot tell you what it is. But I feel like that game probably has a fucking sick-ass game-over screen. All right. I think we're ready to jump in. Again, these are the top 10 game over screens as written by Game Rant. Coming in at number 10. Oh, Monkey Island 2, the Chuck's Revenge.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Definitely missing on my gaming. I just did not play these games. I'm going to trust them. At number nine, we got the binding of Isaac. Oh, Jesus. So this one is like a, yeah, diary entry where he says, Dear Diary, today I died. I was killed by, oh, actually, I remember getting this because it's always cool.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I was killed by this thing, and he points to the enemy that killed you. Yeah. I fuck with this. I think I know what it may be. Well, no, wait, am I a year off? Shit, I think I may be a year off. Inscription. Inscription has a very similar, we're showing you exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah, I think inscription was late 2022, so I think it would have been a little bit after this. Was it not 2021? I think it was like late 2021. I don't know. The Mining of Isaac and a lot of rogue lights will remind me of that of here's what your run was. Yeah. Kind of, you know, let's summarize what exactly killed you and, you know, how many things
Starting point is 00:50:07 you collected or whatever. Your own legacy. Like a rogue legacy. Yeah. The Rogue legacy has like a good start screen though because that's where you like decide who your like your offspring, I guess. Yeah. Your descendant is going to be.
Starting point is 00:50:18 But I don't know if the game over screen is that. sick. All right. Coming into number eight, Chrono trigger. Oh, I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Oh, fuck. But the future. I mean, that's a tattoo. Like, I wish I was a chrono trigger. I may be come on for this tattoo.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I feel stupid for not remembering this one. This is a good one. This is an Alzheimer. And number seven. Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker. Oh. Peace Walker.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Interesting. I'm sure. You've got to have Middle Gear Solid one still on this if you're putting that on there. You have to. The way that the font fills in.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Jake? Like, there's no way. And with the music, too. And the sound of everything about that is just perfect. You'd really, like, put two Metal Gear's on here, though? I mean, I'm surprised this is here. I don't know what makes this special. Yeah, but I don't think I've experienced...
Starting point is 00:51:07 I never experienced this game or screen because I'm just a gamer, you know? A lot of these I'm not seen. Metal Gear Salop Peacewalker is one of the most iconic game over screens of all time. It may not add anything in terms of gameplay, but the death screen might just be one of the funniest in all of gaming. Even players who have never picked up a Metal Gear game in their lives can quote the death screens line, Snake, snake, love it or hate it. Internet meme culture has preserved this one forever.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Is that not the first one? Hold up, hold up, hold up. Is this somebody who's their first Metal Gear game was Peace Walker? And this whole time they thought the meme was from Peace Walker, not the original Metal Gear Solid? What are we doing? That's crazy. Because what are they talking about? There had to have been a translation issue.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Greg. Hi, everybody. It's me, Greg Miller. We're going to the list of top 10 best game over screens. Number eight went to Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker. Number seven. And our guess was, well, I mean, it should be Metal Gear Solid 1. You think so, right?
Starting point is 00:52:02 And they're saying that Peace Walker having the snake whole thing is like, as if this is the first game ever did it. Yeah, was there anything special? Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker has one of the most iconic gameover screens all time. It may not add anything in terms of gameplay, but the death screen might just be one of the funniest in all of gaming. Even players who never picked up a Metal Gear game in their lives, can quote the death screen line, Snake,
Starting point is 00:52:21 Snake! Love it or hate it, the internet meme culture has preserved this one forever. You think this was the only screenshot that they can get that, like, fit the article, right? What the fuck? Are they talking about it? Yeah, so you're with us. Yeah, no, I mean, I'm not saying. It's the green font.
Starting point is 00:52:35 You know, like, it's got to be part one. Yeah. I'm shocked by this. I think this is somebody who's very middle gear was Peace Walker, and they're like, I'm just going to choose my favorite one. Yeah. Could you try to find video of this, the Peace Walker one? Yeah, give me a second here.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Just because like, yeah, because objectively, like, fellow your solid, one having the, yeah, like the way that the font fills in and all that shit, that adds so much.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Yeah, it's the green lettering. It's all the, everybody's saying AI. I think it's an AI. Oh, no. And AI, well, this is 2022.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Yeah, unless that's a lot. We know that. Oh, AI is going back to. Yeah. Going back to top. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Because, I mean, let me see if there's a, I mean, there is a rider. Dun, dun, Dun, dun, Dun,
Starting point is 00:53:15 Dun, um, fun, fun, Is that part of the game or is that somebody singing along? That was posse. Yeah, that was pause. If you noticed really quick, you were looking down.
Starting point is 00:53:30 The first one there, a hater doing it, was pause in her underwear running away. So yeah, yeah. There's some things that'll be able to do. What's wrong, boss? Respond! Boss! No, man, they're tall, way back. Yeah, there's no way.
Starting point is 00:53:44 That's fucked up. Damn. You did this list just lost a lot of major points. You just lost a lot of points there. Come on! Thank you, Greg. That's Greg Miller, everybody. Miller, everybody.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Yeah. You won Game Award 2015. We started all real strong here, but yeah, number seven, ooh.
Starting point is 00:53:59 At number six, we got the Legend of Zelda, Majoris mask. Should be higher. Yeah, from here on, you have to have
Starting point is 00:54:07 bangers. If you're putting this at number six, the top five need to be bangers. Yeah. Because this one goes so fucking hard.
Starting point is 00:54:12 This is just insane. I never really played this game. So, Andy, you would love and hate it. It would stress you the fuck out. But like,
Starting point is 00:54:18 no, it always did. That's why I never really went through it. I was like, it reminded me of why I never wanted to play the underwater mission in the first in the first Ninja Turtles game
Starting point is 00:54:29 on NES because it was like you're underwater, you're running out of time, the clock's running against you and I hated the idea of that. It was just constant dread. And I played this game a lot at my Thea's house back in the day because she was a big Zelda fan and rented the shit out of it on... Or no, I also had bought it on 3DS,
Starting point is 00:54:49 the remake or whatever, played it on a plane one time I was like, I just can't do this. I can't get through it. Honestly, Andy, the blood-born of the Zelda series. Oh, I've always wanted to play Majorism. I've played some of it, but I've not played through it. Like, I think I got to the first dungeon or whatever and then dropped off because that's back when I was playing these games on my emulator on my laptop in college.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I forget where I placed it in the Zelda in review ranking, but I think it's still pretty high, like in the top five or six. So if you ever want to do a stream series, we play through the Zelda's. We've got to find a cool name for it because I've also not played, I'm not played any of Winwaker. I've always always played Winwaker. Yeah. Honestly, I'm kind of the same. That's another, there's a lot of Zelda games I played at my aunt's house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 For over summers, because I was like babysitting my little cousins, but I never, ever really sat down, played through them like in a very professional manner. I was always like an 11-year-old, 12-year-old doing this stuff. Zeld-Tober. Zeld-April. Fuck you. Why are you doing this to Dongtober? The Legend of July. How about this?
Starting point is 00:55:50 Um, how about this? How about this? Like, something like wind woke or, or wind baker and we're all, we're all smoking weed. Woke waker. We're straying too far from God, everybody. We'll work on it. At number five, we got demon souls. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:13 You had to have some souls thing in there. And that's the first one, right? So this, like, at least they're showing some respect here on like Metal Gear. Yeah. Yeah. And number four, we got Batman Return to Arkham.
Starting point is 00:56:24 All right. Return to Arkham is a weird one specifically to call it because it's the remaster of Asylum and City. I would have just put Batman Arkham just because it's just like a staple throughout the entire series. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And you saying that is the same reason why I'm thinking you got to put Dark Souls there and not Demon Souls. Because sure, Demon Souls was the first one to do it. But Dark Souls was the one that really, really hit to more people. I think I'm on the AI train now, because this makes no sense. Like, reading the thing, right, Batman Return to Arkham is a love letter to the comics.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Batman's iconic villains are all ready to bring down the Cape Crusader. And if they succeed, the player is treated to a series of game over screens. Each villain has a post-credit game over screen. Each villain has a post-credit game over screen? What does that mean? Each villain has a post-credit. It's not like you get credits every time you die. Yeah, no, post-cred.
Starting point is 00:57:17 That's a weird one. Post-credit game over screen where they interact with a defeated Batman. These scenes are so interesting that many players opt to lose their battles the first time, just around to see how the villains will react to finally winning. Updated on May 14th, 2022. People were using really use an AI. Can you read the Majores Mask one? Let's see if that reads.
Starting point is 00:57:38 The Legend of Zelda Majores Mask doesn't make this list for the game over screen itself, but for surprisingly disturbing cutscene that precedes it, which did a fantastic job of scaring the life out of unsuspecting Chile. in the early 2000s. The Moon and Major's mask is one of the creepiest visuals in gaming history. It's hard to focus on adventuring
Starting point is 00:57:54 with that face staring down at the player. The timer at the bottom of the screen doesn't help either, only instilling a sense of anxiety in the player. That's a good ride-up. Well, the first half, I would say, the second half, it's like, now we're just kind of talking
Starting point is 00:58:06 generally about the game. You're just trying to get words in there. Yeah, they're like trying to hit a word count. Yeah, that's interesting. Because this Syracusebis either AI, which is shocking in 2022, but then, or this person has not played an Arkham game because why would you choose return to Arkham and not just Arkham Asylum
Starting point is 00:58:21 and same as a metal game. Or just say Batman Arkham because like here's the thing is, like, I think this is different from the Metal Gear situation because it's not like, City did this so much better or Knight did this so much better or like they're all like just very consistent, which is why I would just put Batman Arkham as its own entry. Saying return to Arkham is just such a weird. Yeah. What are we doing? All right. All right. Coming in. And number three, we got Banjo Kizui. So I think this honestly probably fills in for our DK64 love. No, DK64 is better.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Because like it's the same. I forget what, I don't even think I lost in a Bajikazooi. I don't think I got a game over. But like it's just another cutscene I imagine, right? Many games don't show the outcome if the hero loses. Instead, they simply cut to a game over screen. Wait, is it the players have to try again. Well, I keep reading, Andy.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Banja Kizui is unique in this respect, as if the player fails to save their sister Tudy. They can actually see what becomes of her. Evil Witch Gruntilda succeeds in her plan to steal Tudy's beauty. No. A monster's version of her has a bone to pick with the brother who failed to save her. I think it was Tudy. You guys play Banger Kizu Kzui? No, not really.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Benjik Tzu-Fox. I need to. This is definitely like one of the biggest holes in my gaming life. Yeah. Vendezer's great. I played that game in like, I played it in like 2016 or 2017 on my, when I, that was like when I first bought my Xbox one. And like I got rare replay and I was like, it's finally time. I'm going to play.
Starting point is 00:59:47 play it. In 2016, that shit held up. This is a fucking video game right here, man. Shout out Banja Zui. Love that game. Coming in number two. Paper Mario, the thousand-year door. Yeah, that's dope. Hell yeah. Because the whole game, like, a lot of it's
Starting point is 01:00:01 you're on a stage, so it's like they have fun with it. There's like variations of it, too, that I think I imagine. Man, not a whole lot from our list, huh? It's a good call. Yeah. Jesus. At number one, we got Mass Effect 2,
Starting point is 01:00:15 where it just says critical mission failure. Okay. So let's scroll down and read the... Command of Shepard can be a little promiscuous. Throughout the trilogy, the player has given ample opportunity to romance their crew, and many players take full advantage. However, if the player tries to seduce one particular character, it doesn't...
Starting point is 01:00:31 So this is a very specific thing. Morinth will try and convince a player that because they've died and come back, they will be immune to her condition that kills those with whom she is intimate. This unfortunately proves false. If the player goes along with it, they will be treated to a creepy romance scene followed by a game over screen they're getting really specific with the
Starting point is 01:00:52 player conditions yeah there's one time where you get a game over screen in this game I mean you could do the same thing with like a fish and mailed in Metal Gear Solid you can do this with a lot of these sort of Easter egg type moments this is a weird one I don't like this is a shit list I'm going two thumbs down don't like it
Starting point is 01:01:10 the fact that we don't have Resident Evil Metal Gear Solid 1 GTA like I feel like it's a very come on. The list had no continuity. It was either, here's a really memorable thing, and here's one that's really specific
Starting point is 01:01:26 in if you pick this scenario. It's like, I thought we were going with the memorable ones. The wasted GTA thing, the Middle Gear Solid 1, not being on the list, but fucking Peace Walker being there
Starting point is 01:01:37 is very, very odd. Yeah, there's a weird one. I'm sticking with my, if not AI, there's some shenanigans going on. There's like some story behind this list where there's,
Starting point is 01:01:47 just like, I just put it up. The editor was out that day. I don't know. But that's it. Oh, also shout out to Sancho West. Sancho was actually the one who recommended this list to me. Sancho!
Starting point is 01:01:57 And so, shout out Sancho West, the homie. That does bring us to the end of Gamescast. I'm trying to double checking the superchats to make sure. Yeah, none of you guys are running with the list. And so it's on y'all. It's on y'all. Tim and Andy, thank you guys so much. Thank you for having me.
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