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Yo, what's up? Welcome to Kind of Funny Games cast for Monday, September 16th, 2024.
I'm on your host blessing Adioia Jr.
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It's going to be a good one today. I feel it in my balls.
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Andy Cortez, do you feel it in your balls?
I felt it in Tim's balls.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
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I don't feel anything in my balls yet, but I'll let you know.
Not yet.
There's still time.
Yeah.
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Tots, Tots, Tats, Tats, Tats, Tats.
I wanted to get into Tots quicker than usual
because we got a lot to break down.
Yeah, we do.
It is a shit list episode.
Last time we did a shit list episode,
we did three different lists.
The way I want to do it this time around,
I got two lists picked out.
Okay.
Super chats, if there's a list out there that you want us to react to at the end of the show, right in with them.
Okay.
I think that'll be the fun way to do it.
And we'll choose one.
Okay.
I'll choose one.
Maybe too, if we have some time.
We'll see how much time we have.
Because the first one we're doing, I think we're going to spend a lot of time on this.
Okay.
It is the top 10 best souls like games.
Okay.
Now, if you're unfamiliar with the shit list, I go online.
I find a top 10 list.
I bring it back to the crew here
and we judge it for your amusement.
Andy, I think this is your first
my first one.
Excited to be here.
I'm excited to have you.
That's the reason why I picked this one
because me and you and Mike,
but Mike's not hearing you know,
and bear also.
We love some souls likes.
Tim is a future soulslike lover.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that.
I don't think that's in my future.
I think it is.
I think it is.
I think you have the souls like Gene
and you is just about unlocking it.
It's like being inhuman.
Yeah.
That's what happens to everybody, Tim.
I was like, I'll never play these games
That's what I was like
Before I played Bloodbored
I was like, these aren't for me
And then I played Bloodbored and I was like
Oh, these are some of the greatest games
Ever played.
We were all stupid idiots at one point
Yeah, like you just got to make it a franchise
That you care about, right?
Like I didn't think I was gonna get into these games
And then Star Wars Jedi came out, you know?
Yeah
That's as far as I think I'm gonna go
But today's not about me
No, it is
No, it is.
This is an invention?
Everybody else coming in here.
We're not even live right now
That's a fake chat. And of course, they have more lists and so we'll get some reserve for Tim.
But for now, talking about the 10 Best Souls like, this is a list from IGN.
This list was posted originally.
November, 2023.
It was updated January 24th, 2024.
This is all very pertinent information, Andy, because the site that the list comes from,
it's either going to be like, okay, there was some editorial thought put into this and there was
some oversight to some level, or it was from the gamer.com.
And it's troll.
And it's just fucking, like, they'll come up with.
with a headline and you're just rolling the dice.
Sometimes excellent lists.
Now,
actual thought put into it.
I do have an update here that's going to frame some lists and maybe spoil it a little bit,
but it's important.
This is an editor's note at the top of the article.
Uh-oh.
This list was originally published in February 2021.
Okay.
And last updated November 16th, 20203.
Changes include, I'm not going to spoil that one.
And then they made a change.
And when we get there, it'll make sense.
and then they added in three newer releases bumping Lords of the Fallen,
Code Vane, and Dark Siders 3 off the list.
Oh, okay.
Interesting.
Dark Siders 3.
Yeah, which is very interesting.
I think put some context into what we're talking about with this list.
Okay.
So this is including from games.
I don't think it is.
Is it?
Is it not?
I would think the headline just the headline just says 10 best souls like.
So I would think it's including.
Because that would be very silly for them.
Like means that it's like a
Souls game, which I think
is just more of a shorthand of
games that are like from games.
You know what? Actually, here, I got the first paragraph
for you. The legacy of From Software
Souls series isn't just defined by the amazing
games that it's made up of,
but also the subgenre that's been given
life thanks to its very existence. The Soulslike.
We last updated this list.
So with all that said, let's
take another look at our picks from the 10
best Souls likes, specifically
the ones that aren't developed
by From Software themselves.
Perfect.
I just want it to be known
that this sounds like a...
Cop out?
Yes.
No, it's not.
Souls games are Souls likes.
I'm just, I understand that
you can also be like something.
Yeah, but...
Is Metroidvania?
It's like, just because the word likes not there,
it's the exact same thing.
We're talking about a word to describe a genre.
So Metroid Games and Castlevania games count.
If I saw a fucking top 10 Metroidvania list
and Metroid or Castlevania games weren't on it,
I'd be like, this is stupidest shit.
I feel that.
I agree with that, honestly.
I've gotten to the point where whenever I am trying to describe these games, I'll say,
like, for example, one game that I think will be on the list that I don't want to, like,
can we say a game?
Yeah, now's the time.
Yeah, I was all right.
Okay.
So,
I'm going to write them down as we go.
When I played Lies of P, I said, this is the best souls game that Frum didn't make.
Yeah.
And, like, sure, obviously, it's not a Souls game because it's not made by from software,
but that's just kind of how I describe it now.
Like this game is so to a T of what From Software would have developed if you would have told me, oh, the former lead developer or whatever on From Software, they worked on this game.
Like, I would have believed it because that's how true to the core of like that's a From Software game.
So Liza P, it's got to be on this list.
I think Liza P.
I'm going to say it's number one.
I'm going to say it's number one on this list.
Now, this is what I want to do.
We're going to do this list as it is.
After this, I want to do our top five Souls games or Souls likes, including From Software.
Okay.
I like that.
I like that.
I wonder if it's like,
I want to know where Liza P.
lies with.
I'm curious,
because I've still not played
the Dark Souls games.
And so I'm curious on Andy's input on that.
But Liza P.
We agree that's on the list.
That's got to be number one for me.
That's what I would guess.
So Liza P being number one.
Just for my understanding of this,
sounds like that it is a no-brainer.
But are we not thinking hard enough?
Is there something that we're missing here?
Here's the thing.
Is God of war,
would you call that?
No.
I would say no.
I would say no.
It's like Star Wars is more
Souls-like than God of War.
Yeah, and I don't think people are putting Star Wars over
Liza P as a Souls-like.
So whenever I get input from the Souls community,
because there's a lot way more hardcore fans out there
that have been in the genre way before I even decided
to step my little toe inside of it.
And they always tell me that, Andy, you never played Neo 1 and 2?
Neo 2 is one of the goats.
Neo 2 was amazing.
So I would say that
1 and 2 would be
Liza P and Neo 2.
And you know what else would be on the list
that I know is definitely going to be on the list.
Stranger or Paradise.
Fantasy Reunion.
God damn it, what a good game.
Origins.
Origins, thank you.
What a good awful game.
Another one would be
oh my gosh, I'm blanka.
Are you thinking Wolong?
Sci-fi game.
Sci-fi.
The something.
The.
Oh, wait.
The anorax.
Is it the something manor?
Is it like the...
No, no, no, no.
It's not the techno manor.
The techno manor.
It's the surge.
The surge.
The surge.
The aorax is close.
That's actually what I meant.
That's what I meant.
Anorax is close.
The surge two especially.
The surge two is like, apparently
that's the one that everybody says,
hey, if you're going to play a Souls like
or a Souls game that is not made by Frumsoft,
that's one of the top ones that everybody recommends.
That's crazy.
A lot of RECOs.
So right now I've written down Liza P,
Neal 2, the Surge 2.
Jedi.
I also agree.
agree, Jedi.
Probably Fallen Order, right?
The first one.
Yeah, not Survivor.
Oh, you think so?
Yeah, I feel like
Fallen Order is more souls-like
than Survivor is.
I know, like, all the different stances and stuff.
I don't know why, but I just, like, I feel like...
Interesting.
I feel like we've fallen for this before.
Yeah.
Where, like...
I don't know, there were some boss fights...
Like, kind of, no spoilers,
but there were some boss fights, you know,
the end of Survivor that
were really fun and challenging, yeah.
I just think that the novelty...
I'm thinking more of the kind of like gameplay nature of it.
With the bonfires.
Yeah, but also just like, obviously both the Jedi games
are taking so much from so many different genres,
but when you're talking about level design
and kind of like bonfire placement and all of this stuff,
I think of Fallen Order more as like a Souls like more so than Survivor.
because Survivor gets more into like the open world kind of shit.
Yeah, exactly.
I feel like you're going to call one of Soulslike.
I feel like automatically just both of them are going to fall into the category.
Well, they both are, but I'm saying if we're talking about a list of best Souls likes,
I think I personally think that Fallen Order is more of a Soulslike than Survivor.
Interesting.
If only one of them, I don't think both of them make the list.
I don't think both them make the list, but I think the argument then becomes what's the better game.
Yeah, and I think at that point, yeah, probably Survivor is the one on the list.
I know Bless is writing these down.
Barr, can we also get like a little, uh,
Visualization.
Yeah.
Like a, you know,
put on like one of the smaller ones.
Yeah, just like the shitty little OBS text.
It ain't got to be fancy.
I'm not asking you to call in ILM, you know.
A shout out to another crab treasure,
which I don't think is not going to be on the list
based on it being updated in November of last year.
Well, they said January was also the most recent update, right, of this year?
January is the one I said because it says updated.
It might be like maybe they fixed a typo or some shit.
Oh, okay.
Because the thing actually says November 2023, November 16th.
So no another craft treasure and then also no stellar blade.
And also no black myth, obviously.
I have another one to throw out.
What's that?
That will always get recommended in these lists.
Even though I know where they're coming from and I know that at the heart of it,
a lot of the DNA is still there, but I put it in another genre called Holo Night.
See, I was thinking about that.
I was thinking about like the 2D games.
This is an IGN list though.
I feel like IGN tends to not.
get cute. You know what I mean?
Yeah. There's some of the list that they get cute trying to come up with like they have a
point to make, they make a whole list just to prove a point. So what are the like I know it's
Metroidvania at its core, right? But the idea that you drop your souls. Yeah.
When you die, you have to go collect them back or else you lose them if you die again,
which is like a really, really very important mechanic if you want to like be leveling up and
not falling kind of behind the, behind the eight ball. Is that a saying? Behind the curb?
Like when Mike said that one time? It's behind the eight.
ball behind the eight ball that almost that sounds like a phrase that is a
phrase in a different timeline like our timeline it's a different kind of ball um so
you have to you drop your souls you got to go pick them up again it's got
challenging boss fights with very telegraphed moves that you have to kind of
memorize they've got their sort of boss patterns it's a 2d souls life I'm with it I
I'm with it too and on this top because one of the things we didn't we failed to do was
define what a soul's like is because I'm sure people probably argue yeah he just is a great
So, like, look, I've been arguing with people on the internet for this about a goddamn year now.
Because anytime I want to show off a game that has big, grandiose boss fights that you walk into an arena,
the music pops off. You see the title, the big health bar pops up at the bottom with the name of the guy.
And it's always something like the magnificent, maleficent magnonious or whatever.
And that's the name of the boss.
And he's just gigantic dude.
he has two phases
and if he hits you once or twice
you're fucking dead
and you have to be really
really careful about dodging at the right time
and if you start your attack
you are stuck to that animation
you cannot dodge out of it
it is it's punishing in that way
and that's like
when I see those boss fights
I'm like clearly this was inspired
by a From Soft video
Now my question is if Hollow Night's on this list
is it above Lysopi
because I think I think
popular opinion would be that
Hollow Knight is better than
I think it's a better game
but I don't think it would be a better
soul's life.
I think that this list
they're trying to judge things
on how similar they function
if they're not including
from software games
I think it's how similar
do how close do they get
if you're looking for a
from software game
that's not how much of the boxes
if someone called a souls like
yeah so are you getting
you know let's go down the list
big magnonious
magnificent boss fight right
you get that
That's big boss fights is one.
I'll say bonfire.
Bonfires?
Yeah, bonfire checkpoint system.
The idea of dropping your souls.
Yes.
The idea of enemies respawning.
When you hit the bonfire.
If you hit the bonfire.
If you decide to go back and rest and get your health back,
some upcoming games like Phantom Blade Zero is a game where they're saying,
hey, we don't want to punish you that much.
We don't want bad guys to come back.
Which is like an interesting change.
So I would say enemies respawning is a very soulslike thing.
if you decide to rest and get your health back.
It has to actively dislike you as a person.
Yeah.
A little bit.
It's got a, you have to be really, really frustrated.
You have to get patient Pete with it.
You can't just assume you're going to run through it like any old video game.
It's going to test you, right?
Difficulty, I think, is a big portion of it.
As well as, and then we get into the nitty-gritty of it,
where I've had some people in replies and comments go,
Yeah, but it doesn't have from software shortcuts and level design.
It's like, okay, not all game.
You shouldn't expect that because that's something from software does.
It's really, really, really damn good.
That's why it's called a like, not a soul's game, you know?
Well, no, but some games try to do that and they're just not as good at it.
Yeah.
I think Liza P is an example of like it has shortcuts.
I think a lot of them are great, but it's like, Frontsoft is just on another level when it comes to that level.
Just to be clear, too, about the Souls-like thing.
This shit pisses me on.
Yeah, yeah, me too.
So is Blood-Born a Souls-like or a Souls game?
Because it doesn't have fucking souls in the goddamn thing.
I think when you say Souls game, that's part of the, it's part of the soul series.
You're literally talking about demon souls and they say Souls.
Yeah.
They say Soulsborn at that point.
Oh, now they're saying Soulsborn.
Sol's born.
Oh,
I forgot about Soulsborn.
We're saying Soulsborn.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What about when Sekro will fall into this fucking shit, huh?
So, oh, that, don't unlock that.
Before we went live, I saw people in chat arguing because Sechro is in the, is in the thumbnail.
And people are like, Sechro is not a Souls game.
And other people are like, oh, it's a Souls game.
So, like, and people can't agree on this shit.
I think it's the same thing of like RPG system versus or RPG elements versus what makes you an actual RPG and there's so much gray area into it that I just choose not to read into it because it's too much.
Like when I play when I played Stellar Blade like this is a this is more of a souls like to me than it is a devil may cry or a bayonetta.
Yeah.
It's got like these not only these really really hard boss fights, but it just because it has flashy animations and just because.
it does like crazy camera angles when you go and do that awesome move, that doesn't mean that
it isn't more like a Souls game than it is like a character action game, right? Like just
because it's more flashing over the top doesn't mean that it belongs more in that bucket,
in my opinion. Yeah. It's a tough one because I could see the argument, the opposite argument
of Stellar Blade, just because Stellar Blade has a poppiness to it that doesn't feel Soulslike, right?
Like the abilities where it is, you like, pop, blah, blah, blah. And like, you know, you have, you
have almost that, like, ability wheel of abilities that doesn't feel souls like at all?
Well, that's the flashiness I'm talking about, because Eldon Ring and Dark Souls 3, they have
your weapon arts.
That is true.
They have your flashy abilities that if you are, if you're running, let's say, an intellect slash,
like, strength build, you'd have a lot of spells that you could do while you're also swinging
your sword and trying to dodge and do these, like, you know, easily telegraphed attacks or
whatever. Like, there's, you can make a
soul's game look very, very flashy and over the top.
Yeah. In ways that isn't just
you know,
you know, a caveman do with a shield and a fucking
club, you know what I mean? Like, there's ways
to make that game look really over the top.
It's just, I think the anime nature
of Stellar Blade people go, oh, that's closer to a character
action game. And I just fully disagree because that game
requires you to not only
have perfect dodges, but also the perfect
deflections like Sekiro.
Ding, ding, ding, thing.
That in me comes through with a swing, swing, swing, swing, and then a long hesitation,
bam, big heavy, and you can choose to do all of that at the right moments.
But is that more of a Sekiro like, Tim?
You ever think about the fact that...
Maybe it's like a god of warlike, you know?
That the legend of Zelda is just a top-down, Castlevania, Metrovania?
Think about it.
I mean, Batman Arkham Asylum is a Metro-D-D-Metroredvania.
Mario, just a Wokingson.
I'll throw, I'm not played it, but Salt and Sanctuary gets thrown around a lot.
That's a good one
That is a very very good one
I would throw that on the list
It's funny because we've only had
We only have like six games here now
Yeah that's what's weird about this
Is I felt like 10
Would be very easy to come up with
But it
I feel like we're already getting a little crafty
The fact that they don't have
They said they got they bumped Lords of the Fallen
Code Vane and Dark Siders
Damn mortal Shell
Oh mortal Shell
Did people fuck with Mortal Shell?
I mean Mortal Shell did
Decently in reviews
It got like six and a halfs
And a halfs and stuff
But it wasn't anything
that everybody was like blown away by.
Because now it's like getting into the bag of
are we running out here?
Like, but also if you're bumping off Lords of the Fallen,
like do people like Moro Shell more than Lords of the Fallen?
I don't know.
I feel like if Lords the Fallon isn't on this list,
mortal Shell probably isn't on this list.
Are there 2D Souls likes that were that were not thinking of?
We already wrote down Hollow Night.
We wrote down Salon Sanctuary.
Oh, somebody in chat says,
Won Long Fallen Dynasty,
which I like that game.
I feel like Neo takes that spot
I think Neo would be the better
representative. I don't know if we're getting two
games from
I always want to say platinum.
Coie Tecmo. Yeah.
I mean, we can probably just get into it.
Let's get into it. I want to see where this goes.
All right. So we're talking about the top
10 best souls like games. Note the word best.
Ooh. What's up? Remnant.
That's good. That's very good.
It's a third-person shooter. It's not melee
necessarily, but... Remnant two?
I would put
Oh
Oh, maybe Remnant 2 bumped out
One of those games
Yeah
I feel like the time
Yeah, because when did Remnant 2 come out?
The date definitely
It was like last July
2023
Yeah
Yeah, I would put Remnant 2 in there
That's also a reminder
That's a good fucking game dude
Before we go into this list
This was updated November
2023
What happened November 20203
Was that Liza P?
What happened? Liza P came out
in like October
I think September
I thought it was like February
It might have been September 20th
Didn't even come out in 2020?
It did. It was on our top 10.
That feels so long ago.
Wait, what happened, November,
2023?
I don't know.
Was that Sonic Frontiers?
No, that was 2020.
Yeah, who knows?
Maybe they're just like people,
maybe it was Black Friday.
People fucking with Souls likes.
Code Vane.
They said they bumped it off the list.
Oh, shit.
So this list might be bangers.
It might be 10 bangers.
Let's get into it.
Coming in.
And number 10,
we got Ashen.
Oh.
Ashen.
I've heard quite a bit about Ashen.
This is from the makers of Sifu?
Oh, Sifu's got to be on the list.
You think Sifu's a Sos like?
I don't know if Sifu's a soul.
I wouldn't call Sifu's like.
But also Ashen, I don't think Ashton's from that studio.
Is it, Chad?
No, I don't think so.
Because that's the other game.
Oh, I can't remember the name of it.
It is not Human Fall Flat.
But it's, what is it?
Chaut's going to bring it.
Absolver.
Absolver.
Yes.
I always get that wrong.
But it has that art style.
It looks a lot like Exolver.
Yeah, it always reminds you of Obsolver.
I always get them mixed up.
One that I always wanted to try out.
And number nine.
It is from Studio A4, A44,
and Anerpern Interactive.
That's crazy.
At number nine, we got Stranger in Paradise.
Stranger in Paradise Final Fantasy Origin.
I tried to tell y'all.
Oh, shit.
Shout to my goat.
I mean, it's got.
It's got the shortcuts.
It has the level design.
It's 1,000% A-Sol's like.
Yeah.
I don't know if I'm saying.
It's one of the best souls like.
Man, what a good time this is.
That's great.
Good for them.
That's a fun one.
It's a special one.
I don't give a fuck who you are.
It's honestly, because Strangier Paradise, I think, critically,
has so many issues.
And it's like, it's popcorn.
It's a popcorn video game in so many ways.
But I think it works well in that way.
I had a blast playing through this video game,
even though I would never.
put it on like my top 10
game of the year list, unless I did
chat.
I can go look.
Double check me if I put
this on my top 10 list. What year was that?
2022, I think.
I don't think I'll put this. Hold on, hold on.
But this game is a fucking blast.
That's so funny. It's a blast for
a lot of the wrong reasons, but also a lot
of the right reasons. It's just dumb. It's dumb fun.
And sometimes it's all you need.
Hell yeah. A stranger of paradise
seems to not have been
voted on at all. Okay. That makes
sense. Hey there, Jack, you can enter the hotel right now.
Nah.
It's just that nonstop, dude.
At number eight, we got, oh, Lords of the Fallen in 2023.
Now, that's confusing.
They bumped off the first one.
That makes sense.
Okay.
Because I was like, really Stranger Paradise is on here before Lords of the Fallen.
That makes sense.
Real frustrating game.
I did not get too far into Lords of the Fallen.
I want to play co-op because I've heard that's a much easier way to digest the video game.
but it had some,
I know they fixed a lot of stuff
based on a lot of like feedback,
but man,
they were moments where you are just,
you're being punished by just taking on these random mobs of enemies
and then random flying dudes would target you from what felt like a goddamn mile away.
And it's like,
dude,
this game is really frustrating in a lot of bad ways.
And it had some really frustrating runbacks.
A lot of cool concepts though.
Interesting ideas.
I loved the idea of you would,
you would, when you would die, Tim,
you would be sent to, like, a shadow world.
And you had to fight your way out of the shadow.
But it was always, like,
a different version of the world that you were in.
Yeah, like, they created the world twice.
Yeah, so they're, like,
they basically just designed the whole game
in two different versions,
like a light and a dark world,
very Zelda-like or whatever.
But the way that they would do that visually
was so badass.
It wasn't just, like, let's put a filter on this.
It's, like, all the 3D models would change.
And you'd be running around some places,
and you would see, like,
you would sense.
that, oh, there's a walkway here.
And you could switch to the dark world, walk on that dark world walkway, and then go back
to the light world and suddenly it was gone, but now you are just kind of getting to the
level easier.
It had a lot of badass ideas, but man, it was just, it was just frustrating enough to make
me not want to try to beat it.
And number seven, we got Wollong Fallen Dynasty.
Oh, okay.
Which is making me think that there aren't 10 bangers that aren't from software.
Because I'm like, including both Stranger Paradise and Wollong Fong Dynasty.
and Wolong Fallen Dynasty
makes me think that like
we just had to find Soulslake.
It's a fun game.
It's a very okay game.
But it's like a, we did it on our five
point scale, right?
And I think all of us gave it a three out of five.
And I think that's accurate, right?
Like on a 10 point scale,
I'm giving it like a six or seven.
I'd give it a six right now, yeah.
Still like a, hey, if you're desperate for something,
this is going to have fun enough boss fights.
But everything else surrounding it just not great.
If you like Perry's,
this is a good,
This game has a good pair.
Yeah. It's like a dodgy and a pair he put into one.
It's very fun.
At number six, we got the surge.
Yeah.
They do the surge series.
Okay.
That's cheating.
You got to fuck out of here.
Yeah.
Which I don't like, but...
Respect the list.
And number five.
I really want to try out.
Salt and Sanctuary.
Ah, there it is.
Number five.
Just never love the art style of these games.
I feel like they're the very sort of flash anime where everything is like built like a puppet where
you don't have actual like 2D anime.
it's like
Yeah, you like, you move the arm
and it just didn't, I didn't love the way
it's game looks.
It looks very goth castle crashers, you know.
Now we're down to top four.
We've not seen Remnant.
We've not seen Star Wars.
We've not seen Neo.
We've not seen Hollow Night and we've not seen Liza Pete.
Holy shit.
What is not going to make the list from there?
I think Star, Star.
I think Hollow Night.
I think maybe they don't look at Hollow Night as the Souls like.
That's crazy.
If they put Salton Sanctuary there, I think they have to.
I don't know that they do.
I mean, I think Holonite.
is still probably here,
but I feel like this is clearly
a Sol's Like, whereas Hollow Knight
is clearly a Metroidvania
that you can then kind of convince yourself
also Soulslike.
You know what I mean?
I think it fits the Metroidvania molded up
to where you can make the argument
that it doesn't belong.
And I totally agree with that.
It's just whenever I look at these lists,
Holo Night is always feature.
And I go, I guess so, you know?
And number four.
Remnant 2.
Ah, what a good ass video game.
God dang.
Yeah, we literally have
three left. We got three spots left. At number three, lies at
peak. Oh, whoa.
Oh, wow. Number three. No way.
Hollow night's got to be on this list. Holland has to be on this list.
Yeah. Hold on a second.
We now have two spots left. It's going to be,
it's going to be Neo 2.
You think they leave off Star Wars? So that's the thing. Can you actually put
Star Wars as number one? No. I feel like that would
not be mad. I could see it. I'll be mad. I could see it. I'll be mad. I could see
I could see Star Wars Jedi Survivor
because people like those Star Wars games a lot.
I mean, I love it, but I think that's fine.
Like, Jedi Fall in Order, one of my favorite games of all times.
That'd be insane to have it above
Liza P and what people say.
I fucking hope it is so I can say I beat the Nileged's number one.
I agree with my personal, in personal taste,
I agree that Liza P, fucking way above it,
especially when you're talking about SoulsLikes.
Yeah.
But who knows?
Oh, gosh.
And number two, we got,
No.
Star Wars, Jedi, Survivor.
So number one is either Neo.
Neo or Holo Night.
It's got to be Holo Night, right?
It's not even a better game than Liza P.
Like, it's not a better soul's like.
It's not a better game.
That's crazy.
I mean, I disagree with it.
That's crazy.
Is it an easier recommendation maybe to people if it's like, oh, you play?
But is that the goal of the list?
Or is it to say what are the best souls like?
They do say the word best.
They use the word best.
Not what's the easiest to recommend of the Soulslike genre.
I beat the number two best soul dead, bitches.
Coming in,
Hollow Night.
And number one,
we got...
Wow.
Wait, hold on.
Neo-Series.
We got Neal series,
but when you scroll down,
honorable mention goes to Hollow Night.
Can you read it?
Because I want to see their fucking words.
Also, again, enough of the series bullshit.
Yeah.
No.
Disgusting work.
Yeah.
This is disgusting work.
So honorable mention goes to Hollow Night.
They say, while undeniably inspired by Dark Souls in many ways,
Hollow Night doesn't really play like other games on this list in practice.
It shares similar storytelling style of letting you piece together the history of its world
and your role within it, though more subtle dialogue and rich lore,
as well as that familiar death mechanic of having to reach the place you died to retrieve your money,
but its combat, progression, and movement systems are extremely different from the soul's setup.
Most notably the lack of a Stamina meter.
Oh, we even talk about the Stamon Ameter.
That is a very soul's thing right there.
Yeah.
And while there are other games on this list that also lack a stamina meter,
there's also a significantly more forgiving healing system that doesn't rely on reaching enemy resting checkpoints to refill.
That's another, the healing system is also very soulslike.
Fights themselves are also far more reminiscent of platformers like Castlevania or even Mega Man
than the patient timing-focused encounters of a Soulslike game.
So while Hollow Knight is an incredible platformer that certainly owes its Stark Souls inspiration a lot,
its gameplay doesn't actually use
from SOP's signature style
to the extent, to the same extent,
as others on this list.
I think the storytelling is
almost exactly the way
Souls does their sort of,
you pick up an eye,
there's not anybody going to be telling you
straight the fuck up.
You don't hit the end of a chapter
where you get a cutscene.
You don't ever have like any cutscenes,
really. You're just talking to NPCs
and you're putting together lore
through item descriptions.
Like that is from software right there.
Yeah. So at the end of going through a list, Andy, we do a thing where you rank the list.
We do, is it the shit? A thumbs up or is it shit, which is a thumbs down?
Is it the shit or is it shit?
I think the fact that you have Jedi Survivor over Lies of P makes me angry enough.
Yeah.
Even Jedi Survivor over a Remnant 2.
No, Jedi Survivor was an okay game.
It was pretty good.
I liked it.
I would give this
I would still give it shit
for the fact that Liza P wasn't number one.
I also am giving it the one thumbs down
shit list because of the inconsistencies
between series and not series.
A couple bizarre choices.
And yeah, I just feel like overall,
not an offensive list necessarily.
It's not like, I can't believe
they didn't have this or this.
They explained why they didn't have Hollow Night.
I respect that.
Yeah, this, again, this was harder to come up with
the 10 than I thought it was going to be.
and they, I think, respected the predictions.
Yeah.
I think the parameters, at first I was kind of upset with, like,
oh, you're making a Soulslike list,
but you're not actually including from soft games.
But I respected for the idea of, like, you want to add variety.
You want to, like, open people's eyes to the, you know,
the amount of Souls likes there are out there.
But when the bottom half of the list is like, you know, yeah.
Yeah, it's like, you know, you got games here that aren't as exciting of recommendations
when he gets to something like, you know,
Wollong or Stranger or Paradise Final Fantasy Origins.
it's like, okay, well, then did you need to do that?
I feel like a stronger list would have had Eldon Ring at the top and had freaking, you know,
you should just include the Front Soft games.
And if you really wanted to make the notation of we're only going to include one per franchise,
that way you don't have three Dark Souls games taking up the entire list, right?
Dark Soul Series.
Or you just do Dark Soul series.
I want to give it a thumbs up just because it's not that bad of a list,
especially talking about a list that we've done before, but I think I still have to give it the thumbs down.
So that is the IGN list for the 10 best Soulslight games.
We do have a few super chats.
I want to shout out real quick.
Alex Frazier writes in and says posting again because I'm stoked,
paying my American tax.
I got approved for U.S. citizenship today.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
That's awesome.
Well, good.
A better time to join.
No better time to join.
Cody writes in and says,
before playing Eldering, I was not a Souls guy.
Now I'm a masochist and want more.
Oh, yeah.
Eric writes in it says, man up, Andy.
Time to play Lords of the Fallen in 2023.
Man, I just don't want to.
It's just not good enough.
Damn.
I agree, though.
There are a lot of those games where it's like,
I don't think this is good enough and I'm not having fun enough to go through the misery,
you know?
Like, when I played the other games, I'm like, this is clearly some goaded stuff that I really,
really want to, you know, at least work through the punishment.
But Lords of the Fallen was not good enough, I don't think.
And then Kuma here says,
my knowledge slash understanding of Soulslike starts and ends with Vati video.
Those are all the Super Chats we have so far.
Remember, if you want us to react to a list, write in with a link, and we'll choose possibly one of you.
And we'll react to that list.
You're going to have to do that through a Super Chat.
For now, Andy, real quick, rapid fire.
Top five Soulslike games, including the From Soft games.
Oh.
Individual entries.
Because I always...
Individual entries.
Because number one is always a tie.
I don't know it's a cop out.
number one is always a tie
between Elvin Ring and Bloodborn
Yeah
I'd refuse to
I refuse to
I think Bloodborn is
By the way everybody
I think Bloodborn is the cooler video game
I think Eldon Ring is like
Just
Go for a hundred million hours
Andy will be doing on Gamescast
I think on Wednesday this week
His official Bloodborn
The Old Hunters review
Yeah
We'll be getting a lot more actual thoughts
about what you're giving it
on the kind of funny scale and all that.
Yeah, exactly.
I just finally played through the DLC for the first time.
I saw somebody say skill issue
because I wouldn't play Lords of the Fallen.
I beat Orphanococan in about an hour,
so get out of my face with that.
So, Tide, Elder Ring of Bloodborn.
Cop out, but okay, I'll accept it.
Cop out.
Number two.
Oh, this is so hard, bro.
This is so hard.
It is tough because I can't think of my number one.
I would go, because you love them for different reasons.
Yeah.
Dark Souls 1 is the best level design
I've ever played in my life, ever experience.
Dark Souls 3 has some of the best boss fights.
I would put Dark Souls 3 at number 2.
I know you'd probably go number 3 because like one in one.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
We don't do that here.
We should.
We did it on the goadie list, you know.
We don't do it that way.
It's our thing.
It's our list.
It's like the Stu Gott's thing, right, Bear?
That's my list.
It's my list.
My list.
You make your own list.
Yeah, make your own game of the year.
Number three would go
Dark Souls 1.
Number four would be
Sekiro. So you are including Sekiro. Is the Soulslike?
And number five would be Liza P.
I put Liza P over Demon Souls.
Fair enough.
Only one
Soulslike that's not a Souls game.
Makes Andy's top 5.5.
Top six list.
Yeah, yeah.
I saw somebody in chat that was like,
Blessing hasn't played enough
from Soft to make a From Soft list.
That's why I'm saying top Souls likes.
I'm also not played through Lords of the Fallen either.
If you took number two through five of mine and like
randomized it, I'd be okay with it as well.
Yeah, that's my thing with like,
if I'm saying my top three, my top three are going to be
Eldon Ring, Sekiro, Bloodborn,
and you can rearrange that in any order.
If I'm going to commit to an order, I think I would say,
oh, yeah.
It is you love them for different reasons.
I'm going to say Eldon Ring number one.
Secreo number two
Fuck is
Sacro number one
I'm gonna stick to
Secro number two
Secro number two
Bloodbore number three
Lies of P
number four
Holo Night
even though I've only played
the first hour
And I guess I would say Jedi
When I play the Dark Souls games
Eventually that'll change
But I can't believe
Eldon Rings
Not easily your number one
The way that I see you glow about Eldon Ring, it's like, oh, this is Andy's favorite thing.
It's, it's, it's only that Bloodbourne was my first and you'll never forget your first.
True.
But after, but like upon just re-experiencing it for the first time in four years or whatever, like, it's just reminding me after every moment of like, hey, this is why I'm the fucking goat, dude.
You know, like not only the lore, the coolness factor, I think Lance McDonald put it perfectly.
Or maybe I'm not sure of those Lance McDonald or Vati video who put it on like Twitter one day of like,
Elder Ring is the best souls like. Bloodbourne is the coolest.
Bloodborn's just got the cool factor of you are a hunter.
You're talking to German in the hunter's dream and he's like, go out and hunt beasts.
That's what hunters do.
And you're like, all right, I'm going to go do that.
And then it just unravels into this cosmic horror story.
And it's like one of the coolest things ever, man.
It's so fucking good.
Also, I just remember that I like Stellar Blade more than Star Wars.
And so I'm replaced my number five with Stellar Blade, actually.
I like that.
I never beat Cellar Blade.
I'm like right near the end, though.
I really like it.
Boss fights are great, yeah.
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And we're back with our second list.
The top 10 game over screens.
See, okay, this is great.
Because the first topic, I'm like, what do I have to add to this?
Yes.
Losing it video games, I'm so familiar with that.
Like, I go, I can do this.
This is great.
It's hard for me to come off the top.
Oh,
Resident Evil.
Metal Gear Solid.
You died.
Metal Gear Solid is the easy number one.
But the fonts,
you know,
the mainly like the green and all that.
Yeah, yeah.
You said Resident Evil was the first?
I would say Resident Evil.
Yeah, you died.
Oh, yeah.
And speaking of you died.
You were dead.
What of any of the Souls games?
Just like.
I'd say just Dark Souls one.
Dark Soul would be it, yeah.
Majora's Mask.
Yes
The fucking moon coming down
It's so overly dramatic
It's so fucking cool
Here's the thing
It won't be on the list
But Barrett will be with me
The Donkey Kong 64
Yes
You know what I mean
Okay so the whole premise
Of Donkey Kong 64 guys
I got King K rule
He's got his like a big ass
Boat and he's gonna try to blow up
The entire like DK aisle
Right
And if you fuck up
If you like lose or whatever
It's King K rule
Like laughing
And then it's
his like ship blowing up
D.K. It's like it's his final
smash. It's Spass Brothers and that's why
that's the game over screen fucking
kicks ass. It's so good. That is
awesome. It will never make this list
but like it deserves. I'm putting it
I'm running it down. Hell yeah.
Yeah I
Major's mask I just love the moon one but I also
really like just the
original Zelda
one would Ganon's like a whole ho ho ho ho
oh is that he like laughs
or does Zelda too I think that might be Zolda too
I think that's all the two maybe.
That to me, I mean, that shit sticks with me.
Yeah.
Man, I'm, I'm, oh, you know what?
Mario World.
There's just something I love about the,
like that sound effect is just so adorable.
And like it sticks in my mind.
That is a really nice tune.
GTA, like the wasted.
Oh, yeah.
I like that a lot.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Street Fighter 2.
The end screen.
Go home and be a,
A family man.
Got the countdown.
Yeah.
Their faces all beat off and shit.
All right.
Yeah.
I'm feeling it.
I would, I don't.
This is a tough one because, like, are they going to do full series and, like, all this stuff?
I should shout out.
This is from Game Rant.
And it was updated May 14th, 2020.
So it's a few years old.
I was going to just Batman Arkham in general.
Like, whenever you die, it's like, it's always different depending on where you're at in the story.
But, like, if you're going after Mr. Freeze in Arkham City, it's, it's,
Mr. Freeze talking shit to you.
In Arkham Asylum, a lot of the times
it's Joker talking shit to you, but then sometimes it's
Harley, sometimes it's killer crack.
I know that's like a weird kind of like
amount of... Spoilers, I never played it, bro.
Have you really never played the Arkham News?
He does it just too upset me.
I never play it. You're really good.
I feel like you really like them.
You should check out the James Cameron's
avatar. It's better than the other avatar.
Wait, well...
Oh, you're trying to piss Barrett off.
Pissing me off and the process.
Listen, I was just trying to keep the
mic muting bit to that one episode, but don't fucking
take it to do you. I also
have to say, man, we went on that DK64 rant
hit the mute button. GoldenEye.
The fucking mold.
Filling the screen.
Yeah, that's real good.
That's really damn good.
We got a list right here, man.
And I feel like we're not, I feel like we're barely scratching the surface
because yeah, we got Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Dark Souls,
Majores Mask, Super Mario World, GTA, Street Fighter 2,
Arkmas Island. I just got Street Fighter in their head now.
And Golden Eye.
So we have written down.
nine games. Okay.
Let's add one more to like
have 10 there.
It's a game over screen. Yeah, what's one we believe in?
Like we don't believe in the other ones? I'm just going... No, but like
I want one last one. I don't want to just throw one there. Can I tell you a game over the
screen that I hate? Or at least a dying screen that I hate. I guess game overs don't happen
anymore. Uncharted. I hate dying and uncharted. I mean, actually I think that's like the
like the rag doll. Yeah, like the rag doll and then like the screen kind of like going black and
white and like...
Nate! No!
Yeah. And then like, yeah.
I don't fuck with it.
Oh, God!
I don't fuck with it.
Something about it pisses me up.
Very intense.
Yeah.
It's the funniest unchartered four where you're doing the kind of casual conversations, like, in Madagascar, and then you accidentally drive over a cliff.
It's like a casual conversation.
Oh, God, no!
It's great.
It's a great meme.
I'm blanking.
I'm trying to go through, like, franchises right now.
Yeah.
And I'm having a hard time thinking of one that really, really, really steep.
sticks out because I'm going through like Mega Man doesn't really have anything they just show you a
password it's a little music you know um Sonic doesn't really have any I mean the ring
actually that's not true Sonic is is I don't think it's going to make the list but the old school
Sonic games where it's like the sad busted version of the Sonic theme song and then you see Sonic
and tails all fucking sat it's like there's like there's like there's a spotlight on them and it's
like oh yeah I think we're like in a lot hold on I'm just thinking of like the one
one thing that tortured me all year.
The stupid fucking horn
in Mario Sunshine.
What a fucking
bad time that was.
Mario 64,
that one's fine.
Because I went to send you back to like that
like the start screen or whatever
with Mario's face, but he's all sad and shit.
I will say I think a disconnect here
that I'm even catching with myself,
you know, because I said golden eye, right?
That's not a game over screen.
Yeah.
That's just a death screen.
And neither's the Grand The Otto one.
But like, I mean, there's a lot of these, though.
I think they're going to play with the rules a lot here.
I think, I think it's like, Millier's solid.
That's a game over screen, but it's also just a death.
Yeah.
Like those aren't, they don't have actual game over.
Well, there's just so many games nowadays that don't even have the feature of a game over.
Yeah.
Like, of you having to restart because you lost on your lives.
And I don't think that this list is going to limit themselves to games that have like
a certain amount of lives or whatever, you know?
Like, that's just like what we think of when we think of death screens is just the game over.
Because we were thinking game over, like you bringing up arcade, then it's like Time Crisis 2, House of the Dead.
Like, you know, like I do like the game.
You have no money.
You like a good countdown.
Like the Tekken countdown from 10 to 1, where you have that time to put in your quarter.
I fuck with that.
House of the dead.
I don't know if that's on the list, but I fuck with that.
Someone in the chat, and I'm just wondering this one, Andy, who's Mass Effect.
Is there like a Mass Effect death screen that, like?
I just woke something up in two
I mean it was very similar to Uncharted
where it's like the slow-mo
Ragdoll
music kind of plays
This one deserves to be on the list
But just there's injustice in the world
So I don't think it will be
But Prince of Persia stands at time
One of the coolest
Dets and Gameovers ever
Because the whole sense of time
It's him kind of narrating the story
To somebody
So it's like you hear VO from the prince
Of like
And then this happened
Then you actually like play through
it when you die.
He's like,
no, no, no,
that's not how that happened.
But let's take that back.
And then it's like,
and it's like,
that's cute.
That's cool.
Chat calling out Hades is pretty good too.
Like,
you dying and the game,
the game over up top and it's like,
your adventure doesn't end here.
Yeah.
Whatever that.
Like,
there's always like some sort of narrative thing
that it plays into.
Yeah,
that is cool.
Here's my question.
What happened in like May 2020?
Is that when the list got updated?
Yeah, updated May 14th,
22.
Tears of the kingdom, but like...
Is there a Zelda game?
Wait, no, was that last year?
That was last year.
Oh, yeah.
Fucking Christ.
Yeah, the Zelda, the tears and breath of the wild ones, like, I mean, I've definitely
seen it a lot.
They're cute, just, but they're nothing special, but like, I like that their, their color
will change depending on, like, elements and little stuff like that, but it's not like a
holy shit.
Like, this is really cool.
Here's the thing.
I saw a tweet over the weekend.
That was like, games that have fucked up moons are always fucking cool, right?
True.
I think that was from Imron.
Was it Imron?
I think so.
Because I think one of the references people made was like Majora's Mask.
Yeah.
And Majores Mask.
Is the game overstreen the moon crashing?
Yeah.
Oh, you already mentioned.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
All right, cool.
I was listening.
Steve Martin was a rock on.
Eldon Ring came out in 2020, early 2020, around that time.
I've not played this game in a while, but I feel like Asuers, Asuers Rath probably has
a sick-ass game overscreen.
I cannot tell you what it is.
But I feel like that game probably has a fucking sick-ass game-over screen.
All right.
I think we're ready to jump in.
Again, these are the top 10 game over screens as written by Game Rant.
Coming in at number 10.
Oh, Monkey Island 2, the Chuck's Revenge.
Definitely missing on my gaming.
I just did not play these games.
I'm going to trust them.
At number nine, we got the binding of Isaac.
Oh, Jesus.
So this one is like a, yeah, diary entry where he says,
Dear Diary, today I died.
I was killed by, oh, actually, I remember getting this because it's always cool.
I was killed by this thing, and he points to the enemy that killed you.
Yeah.
I fuck with this.
I think I know what it may be.
Well, no, wait, am I a year off?
Shit, I think I may be a year off.
Inscription.
Inscription has a very similar, we're showing you exactly.
Yeah, I think inscription was late 2022, so I think it would have been a little bit after this.
Was it not 2021?
I think it was like late 2021.
I don't know.
The Mining of Isaac and a lot of rogue lights will remind me of that of here's what your
run was.
Yeah.
Kind of, you know, let's summarize what exactly killed you and, you know, how many things
you collected or whatever.
Your own legacy.
Like a rogue legacy.
Yeah.
The Rogue legacy has like a good start screen though because that's where you like decide
who your like your offspring, I guess.
Yeah.
Your descendant is going to be.
But I don't know if the game over screen is that.
sick.
All right.
Coming into number
eight,
Chrono trigger.
Oh,
I mean, yeah.
Oh, fuck.
But the future.
I mean,
that's a tattoo.
Like, I wish I was a
chrono trigger.
I may be come on
for this tattoo.
I feel stupid
for not remembering this one.
This is a good one.
This is an Alzheimer.
And number seven.
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker.
Oh.
Peace Walker.
Interesting.
I'm sure.
You've got to have
Middle Gear Solid one
still on this
if you're putting that on there.
You have to.
The way that the font fills in.
Jake?
Like, there's no way.
And with the music, too.
And the sound of everything about that is just perfect.
You'd really, like, put two Metal Gear's on here, though?
I mean, I'm surprised this is here.
I don't know what makes this special.
Yeah, but I don't think I've experienced...
I never experienced this game or screen because I'm just a gamer, you know?
A lot of these I'm not seen.
Metal Gear Salop Peacewalker is one of the most iconic game over screens of all time.
It may not add anything in terms of gameplay,
but the death screen might just be one of the funniest in all of gaming.
Even players who have never picked up a Metal Gear game in their lives can quote the death screens line,
Snake, snake, love it or hate it.
Internet meme culture has preserved this one forever.
Is that not the first one?
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Is this somebody who's their first Metal Gear game was Peace Walker?
And this whole time they thought the meme was from Peace Walker, not the original Metal Gear Solid?
What are we doing?
That's crazy.
Because what are they talking about?
There had to have been a translation issue.
Greg.
Hi, everybody.
It's me, Greg Miller.
We're going to the list of top 10 best game over screens.
Number eight went to Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker.
Number seven.
And our guess was, well, I mean, it should be Metal Gear Solid 1.
You think so, right?
And they're saying that Peace Walker having the snake whole thing is like,
as if this is the first game ever did it.
Yeah, was there anything special?
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker has one of the most iconic gameover screens all time.
It may not add anything in terms of gameplay,
but the death screen might just be one of the funniest in all of gaming.
Even players who never picked up a Metal Gear game in their lives,
can quote the death screen line, Snake,
Snake!
Love it or hate it, the internet meme culture has preserved this one forever.
You think this was the only screenshot that they can get that, like, fit the article, right?
What the fuck?
Are they talking about it?
Yeah, so you're with us.
Yeah, no, I mean, I'm not saying.
It's the green font.
You know, like, it's got to be part one.
Yeah.
I'm shocked by this.
I think this is somebody who's very middle gear was Peace Walker,
and they're like, I'm just going to choose my favorite one.
Yeah.
Could you try to find video of this, the Peace Walker one?
Yeah, give me a second here.
Just because like, yeah,
because objectively, like,
fellow your solid,
one having the,
yeah,
like the way that the font fills in
and all that shit,
that adds so much.
Yeah,
it's the green lettering.
It's all the,
everybody's saying AI.
I think it's an AI.
Oh, no.
And AI,
well, this is 2022.
Yeah,
unless that's a lot.
We know that.
Oh, AI is going back to.
Yeah.
Going back to top.
Hold on,
hold on.
Because, I mean,
let me see if there's a,
I mean,
there is a rider.
Dun,
dun,
Dun, dun,
Dun,
Dun,
um,
fun,
fun,
Is that part of the game or is that somebody singing along?
That was posse.
Yeah, that was pause.
If you noticed really quick, you were looking down.
The first one there, a hater doing it, was pause in her underwear running away.
So yeah, yeah.
There's some things that'll be able to do.
What's wrong, boss?
Respond!
Boss!
No, man, they're tall, way back.
Yeah, there's no way.
That's fucked up.
Damn.
You did this list just lost a lot of major points.
You just lost a lot of points there.
Come on!
Thank you, Greg.
That's Greg Miller, everybody.
Miller, everybody.
Yeah.
You won Game Award
2015.
We started all
real strong here,
but yeah,
number seven,
ooh.
At number six,
we got the Legend
of Zelda,
Majoris mask.
Should be higher.
Yeah,
from here on,
you have to have
bangers.
If you're putting
this at number six,
the top five need to be
bangers.
Yeah.
Because this one goes so
fucking hard.
This is just insane.
I never really played
this game.
So, Andy,
you would love and hate it.
It would stress you
the fuck out.
But like,
no,
it always did.
That's why I never
really went through it.
I was like,
it reminded me of why I never wanted to play
the underwater mission in the first
in the first Ninja Turtles game
on NES because it was like you're
underwater, you're running out of time,
the clock's running against you and I hated the idea of that.
It was just constant dread.
And I played this game a lot at my
Thea's house back in the day because she was a big Zelda fan
and rented the shit out of it on...
Or no, I also had bought it on 3DS,
the remake or whatever, played it on a plane one time
I was like, I just can't do this.
I can't get through it.
Honestly, Andy, the blood-born of the Zelda series.
Oh, I've always wanted to play Majorism.
I've played some of it, but I've not played through it.
Like, I think I got to the first dungeon or whatever and then dropped off
because that's back when I was playing these games on my emulator on my laptop in college.
I forget where I placed it in the Zelda in review ranking, but I think it's still pretty high, like in the top five or six.
So if you ever want to do a stream series, we play through the Zelda's.
We've got to find a cool name for it because I've also not played, I'm not played any of Winwaker.
I've always always played Winwaker.
Yeah.
Honestly, I'm kind of the same.
That's another, there's a lot of Zelda games I played at my aunt's house.
Yeah.
For over summers, because I was like babysitting my little cousins, but I never, ever really sat down, played through them like in a very professional manner.
I was always like an 11-year-old, 12-year-old doing this stuff.
Zeld-Tober.
Zeld-April.
Fuck you.
Why are you doing this to Dongtober?
The Legend of July.
How about this?
Um, how about this? How about this?
Like, something like wind woke or, or wind baker and we're all, we're all smoking weed.
Woke waker.
We're straying too far from God, everybody.
We'll work on it.
At number five, we got demon souls.
Okay.
Okay.
You had to have some souls thing in there.
And that's the first one, right?
So this, like, at least they're showing some respect here on like Metal Gear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And number four, we got
Batman
Return to Arkham.
All right.
Return to Arkham is a weird one specifically to call it
because it's the remaster of
Asylum and City.
I would have just put Batman Arkham
just because it's just like a staple
throughout the entire series.
Hold on.
And you saying that is the same reason
why I'm thinking
you got to put Dark Souls there
and not Demon Souls.
Because sure, Demon Souls was the first one to do it.
But Dark Souls was the one that really, really hit to more people.
I think I'm on the AI train now, because this makes no sense.
Like, reading the thing, right, Batman Return to Arkham is a love letter to the comics.
Batman's iconic villains are all ready to bring down the Cape Crusader.
And if they succeed, the player is treated to a series of game over screens.
Each villain has a post-credit game over screen.
Each villain has a post-credit game over screen?
What does that mean?
Each villain has a post-credit.
It's not like you get credits every time you die.
Yeah, no, post-cred.
That's a weird one.
Post-credit game over screen where they interact with a defeated Batman.
These scenes are so interesting that many players opt to lose their battles the first time,
just around to see how the villains will react to finally winning.
Updated on May 14th, 2022.
People were using really use an AI.
Can you read the Majores Mask one?
Let's see if that reads.
The Legend of Zelda Majores Mask doesn't make this list for the game over screen itself,
but for surprisingly disturbing cutscene that precedes it,
which did a fantastic job of scaring the life out of unsuspecting Chile.
in the early 2000s.
The Moon and Major's mask
is one of the creepiest visuals
in gaming history.
It's hard to focus on adventuring
with that face staring down at the player.
The timer at the bottom of the screen
doesn't help either,
only instilling a sense of anxiety in the player.
That's a good ride-up.
Well, the first half, I would say,
the second half, it's like,
now we're just kind of talking
generally about the game.
You're just trying to get words in there.
Yeah, they're like trying to hit a word count.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Because this Syracusebis either AI,
which is shocking in 2022,
but then, or this person has not played
an Arkham game because why would you choose return to Arkham and not just Arkham Asylum
and same as a metal game. Or just say Batman Arkham because like here's the thing is, like,
I think this is different from the Metal Gear situation because it's not like, City did
this so much better or Knight did this so much better or like they're all like just very
consistent, which is why I would just put Batman Arkham as its own entry. Saying return to
Arkham is just such a weird. Yeah. What are we doing? All right. All right. Coming in.
And number three, we got Banjo Kizui.
So I think this honestly probably fills in for our DK64 love.
No, DK64 is better.
Because like it's the same.
I forget what, I don't even think I lost in a Bajikazooi.
I don't think I got a game over.
But like it's just another cutscene I imagine, right?
Many games don't show the outcome if the hero loses.
Instead, they simply cut to a game over screen.
Wait, is it the players have to try again.
Well, I keep reading, Andy.
Banja Kizui is unique in this respect, as if the player fails to save their sister Tudy.
They can actually see what becomes of her.
Evil Witch Gruntilda succeeds in her plan to steal Tudy's beauty.
No.
A monster's version of her has a bone to pick with the brother who failed to save her.
I think it was Tudy.
You guys play Banger Kizu Kzui?
No, not really.
Benjik Tzu-Fox.
I need to.
This is definitely like one of the biggest holes in my gaming life.
Yeah.
Vendezer's great.
I played that game in like, I played it in like 2016 or 2017 on my, when I, that was like when I first bought my Xbox one.
And like I got rare replay and I was like, it's finally time.
I'm going to play.
play it. In 2016, that shit held up.
This is a fucking video game right here, man.
Shout out Banja Zui. Love that game.
Coming in number two.
Paper Mario, the thousand-year door.
Yeah, that's dope.
Hell yeah.
Because the whole game, like, a lot of it's
you're on a stage, so it's like they have fun with it.
There's like variations of it, too, that I think
I imagine.
Man, not a whole lot from our list, huh?
It's a good call.
Yeah. Jesus.
At number one, we got
Mass Effect 2,
where it just says critical mission failure.
Okay.
So let's scroll down and read the...
Command of Shepard can be a little promiscuous.
Throughout the trilogy, the player has given ample opportunity to romance their crew,
and many players take full advantage.
However, if the player tries to seduce one particular character,
it doesn't...
So this is a very specific thing.
Morinth will try and convince a player that because they've died and come back,
they will be immune to her condition that kills those with whom she is intimate.
This unfortunately proves false.
If the player goes along with it, they will be treated to a creepy romance scene
followed by a game over screen
they're getting
really specific with the
player conditions
yeah there's one time where you get a game over screen in this game
I mean you could do the same thing with like a
fish and mailed in Metal Gear Solid
you can do this with a lot of
these sort of Easter egg type moments
this is a weird one I don't like this is a shit list
I'm going two thumbs down don't like it
the fact that we don't have Resident Evil
Metal Gear Solid 1
GTA like I feel like it's a very
come on.
The list had no continuity.
It was either,
here's a really memorable thing,
and here's one that's really specific
in if you pick this scenario.
It's like,
I thought we were going
with the memorable ones.
The wasted GTA thing,
the Middle Gear Solid 1,
not being on the list,
but fucking Peace Walker being there
is very, very odd.
Yeah,
there's a weird one.
I'm sticking with my,
if not AI,
there's some shenanigans going on.
There's like some story behind this list
where there's,
just like, I just put it up.
The editor was out that day.
I don't know.
But that's it.
Oh, also shout out to Sancho West.
Sancho was actually the one
who recommended this list to me.
Sancho!
And so, shout out Sancho West, the homie.
That does bring us to the end of Gamescast.
I'm trying to double checking the superchats to make sure.
Yeah, none of you guys are running with the list.
And so it's on y'all.
It's on y'all.
Tim and Andy, thank you guys so much.
Thank you for having me.
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