Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - The Blood of Dawnwalker Spoilercast - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:36 I get it. I'm Siaia and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today, I'm still figuring it out. Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll. So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem.
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Starting point is 00:01:32 I'm just getting messages from Silent Hill. You know, the Silent Hill game uses that little thing. I got the press mailer today with the little guy on there. Wow. That's sick. Madeline, of course, a big Silent Hill fan, a big horror fan. I'm sure when we review it, whenever that might happen, Madeline will be here to do it with us.
Starting point is 00:01:48 This is cool. That's so cool. Super bummer of I got it. I was like, oh, cool. You take it out. There's like 100 of them made or whatever. And I was like, oh, cool. It's got the intent.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And the antenna just popped right off. Oh, God damn. I need to get the super glue for them. There goes to resell value. Thanks for saying that are over here, Konami, as we get into spooky season. Isn't that right? Queen of Screams, Madeline Stanley.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Hi, Greg. Hi, Andy. How you doing today? Hello. I'm excellent. I'm happy to be hanging out with you. How are you? Are you enjoying the Halloween season? Of course. I got my Jason shirt on. This is not Michael Myers. This is Jason, everyone. I don't know why Blessing keeps calling Michael Myers Jason. I don't know what his problem is. It's an easy thing to mistake. It is not that easy actually. It's actually quite different. Quite different. Not the same thing at all, but I appreciate you trying to defend it for him, nitro rifle, Andy Quartess. I mean, the day that that game was revealed, I was so confused with it
Starting point is 00:02:39 because in my mind I was just like yeah this already came out why is Greg so excited why is he excited for Friday is this like a different like did they get the license back I was so confused about yeah yeah yeah yeah different IP completely very different IP but who could have known I mean anybody who's paying attention
Starting point is 00:02:55 to the difference between Friday 13th and Halloween you know what I mean Madeline you of course came up here you were stream with us last week Halloween have you been playing more or are you on to other video games yeah actually I played again last Sunday for my little Sunday
Starting point is 00:03:09 scaries that I do every week. Had a really good time, played with some newbies, showed them the ropes. Some of them were way better at being serial killers than I expected. It's really showing who, you know, how you know your friends, right? Like, we already knew you were a maniac, Greg, but now I'm finding out other people in my life
Starting point is 00:03:26 are also insane. You know, it felt so good to get in there and murder everybody. Because, you know, the problem was Mike and you had already played when Halloween got to the streams and stuff, so I was very concerned about how much Mike would already know how good he would be. And to be able to go in there, Andy, and really just kill everybody and scream and, you know, talk about the devil and be the devil. I had a great time out there.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I love that game. I'm excited for, I think October you'll see us return to streaming there. It's a great way to just unleash for you. Well, I put up a whole, yeah, I put up one of my Instagram reels over there. It was edited by Reese Byron photography. Oh, Reese's videos are great. He did a great job of putting together my flip-out freak out of murdering everybody over there. So go to Instagram.com slash game over Greggie and watch it.
Starting point is 00:04:06 there, but this isn't about promoting me. All right. Your four-time game showdown champion. This is about the blood of Don Walker's spoiler cast because this is the kind of funny games cast each and every weekday. We come together to talk about the biggest topics in video games,
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Starting point is 00:04:34 Tron, Robo, Bartender. comments about the game. Of course, we will be spoiling the blood of Dawn Walker. So everybody's strapping in and get ready. We'll talk about it in a second, though, before we get into spoilers, spoilers. Remember, we couldn't do this without our producers over on Patreon.com slash kind of funny. So thank you, Omega Buster, Delaney of the Sombat and Michael Pezzavento. For now, let's begin with topic of the show.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I'm realizing I never gave it a review because I wasn't done with it. Yeah. Andy Cortez, before we go into full spoilers for the blood of Dawn Walker, this is still spoiler-free. Still spoiler-free. Give me your review on the kind of funny scale of the blood of Dawn Walker.
Starting point is 00:05:12 The Blood of Dawn Walker, great story beats, awesome NPCs, fantastic interactions. Yeah. Progression that I don't love, but I think is more than good enough
Starting point is 00:05:28 because of how you're talking about the skill trees? Progression skill trees, abilities, combat, like I was never in love with those aspects. And if the Those aspects are kind of, you know, six to seven-ish.
Starting point is 00:05:42 No way, really? For me. Okay, and that's fair. I'm, you know, obviously, your reviews, your review. I'm not trying to stay that. If I'm not super in love with those aspects of the video game, the story better be damn good, and the characters better be damn good. And luckily, this was way better than I could have ever hoped for.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I really enjoyed my story and my journey with this. I would give this an 8-5 out of the end. That's what I like to hear. I think it's, I mean, what a great, like, debut from this studio. Like, oh, man, fantastic start. And again, thinking back to just that, wow, you're really calling your shot with this futuristic version of Cohen in that trailer. What a silly thing to do.
Starting point is 00:06:25 My God, man. We'll wait for spoilers, I guess. But my God, when they did that, when they fucking did that, like, what are you doing? Don't be like that. How many times have we seen, oh, we're a bunch of AAA devs coming together to make a quadruplea game. It'll be great. goes to where these guys we put out our first game we're gonna tease where we want to go in the next two
Starting point is 00:06:41 sequels like what yeah what really stunk is like we watched that and then i went to go do the preview so i already had that in mind of going like oh man i don't know if this game's gonna be awesome or not stuff and that prologue really blew me away and then the rest of the game i think just has so many freaking fantastic side quests and so many optional missable things yeah that you could choose to not do but if you don't you may be missing out on your favorite side quest of the game It's just so freaking damn well written With interesting characters And great twists and turns
Starting point is 00:07:13 It did everything I wanted to do story-wise Hell yeah And again the combat Not bad I know it sounds like I was like kind of shitting on it We were talking about progression it felt like more Yeah yeah definitely What you think of combat
Starting point is 00:07:25 I like combat I like the combat Yeah I love the combat Yeah I had a good time with it I just wish I wish it was a I wish my end game Cohen Looked and felt a lot different than my early game Cohen.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that I totally vibe with. I think that'll be one of the things they take away for the sequels, right,
Starting point is 00:07:43 as character customization, right, of really making it look like you've been on a journey and you've gone through something rather than you're the same kid from the very beginning of the game. Madeline, of course,
Starting point is 00:07:53 we are doing a spoiler cast. We're not into spoilers yet. For folks who didn't see it, what did you give this on the kind of funny review scale? I gave this a 9 out of 10. I really found not a lot to have wrong with this game. I thought the story was amazing.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I too was so incredulous of them shot calling a future game that has something to do with this. And I was in fact like kind of wrote wrote it off. And then to come back, such a comeback for me, this game where I was like, okay, like I love vampires, but, you know, I'm more interested in the future one now. But this one was so good. I loved all the characters. I loved, I really loved the combat, even though I struggled with it at the beginning. and I really felt like I went on this journey with Cohen, and it was my journey.
Starting point is 00:08:40 One of the things that's been so fun is watching other people I know stream this and them having completely different experiences than me, and every person is interacting with the game in such a different way, which I think is so cool. I thought it was really fun when after we did our review, and Jordan Midler was still here in the office, I wanted to ask him about a certain NPC,
Starting point is 00:09:01 and he had no idea what I was talking about. And I was like, damn, that's, just a really delightful little MPC exchange that is a multiple chain mission or whatever but for him to have not even been like, no, I don't even know what you're talking about. And it being one of my favorites
Starting point is 00:09:16 and it's not this gigantic consequential side beat or whatever, but that's the great thing about these awesome side quests is that even when they aren't super consequential to the overall story, they still hit in a good way because the writing's
Starting point is 00:09:32 phenomenal and the acting is great. Yeah, it's just, it's so likable. I think that's, you know, one, again, I gave it an 8.5 when we reviewed it as well. But I think that conversation with Jordan that I was, you know, a part of listening in on is one of those things. It's like, proof the game so special. Because playing that, I mean, I know there's clearly what the main mission is, right? But we said throughout this that the side missions feel like they're all feeding. There is no side mission. It all feels like it's main objective stuff. So I remember what you're talking about. And it was like, when I got that I thought oh that's just you have to do that
Starting point is 00:10:08 you're gonna you have to find that that would be something you know you couldn't miss and the fact you missed it I think really proves how cool the game is yeah all right then it's time to move in to spoilers everybody so this is your last chance to bail if you have not played this game of course I still think this is one of those you could listen to and say hey now maybe I want to go check out the game now
Starting point is 00:10:25 because there's so much going on on maybe you're watching way later if you are hit me up on BS that's blue sky and say banana cream pies go far and that's how I'll know you're listening to the spoiler cast years from now because that is you know still happens every day you think it's really gonna you think that quote's going to resonate with you in no oh well right now I get them all the time where people are like banana pie pumpkin pie they all these things and I'm like I have no idea what spoiler guys attached anymore but I appreciate people still do it it's a nice to know
Starting point is 00:10:51 that they are still finding our content and just yelling nonsense at you exactly what it is Andy and Madeline yeah there's so many different places to start with this game so much to talk about. But I do think, let's piggyback off what we've already brought up. What a wet fart of a post-credit scene to have shown me
Starting point is 00:11:15 the fucking post-credit scene three months before. Yeah. I would have lost my fucking mind. If we would have played the blood of Dawn Walker, no idea that they were going to do a future flash forward.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And we get to that end credit scene and the FedEx guy shows up, and slides over the blood box and Cohen grabs it. And I would have been like, what the fuck? This is amazing. Instead, you showed that during SGF or PC gamer SGF showcase? And we're all like, what the fuck? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Well, the game isn't happening there, but we want to eventually. Why? Why'd you ruin that? Boo, boo, boom, Rebel wolves. Yeah, you ruined Daddy Cohen for us all grayed out with the gray beer looking all rugged. Yeah. And I think it puts, it gets me excited for Wonder. where he's going to be at in the future, Madeline,
Starting point is 00:12:04 because he looks like he's given his all to whatever this, you know, upcoming encounter is going to be. And he's got this really awesome, like, attitude about it. He's like, I can do this all day, that sort of vibe. But he looks like he's on his final bro. Like this dude, this dude looks so strung out. As Greg mentioned, for people who haven't seen it, a FedEx guy arrives to an apartment,
Starting point is 00:12:31 and he opens a door and Cohen is there dying like pretty much looking like he's dying of thirst or starvation because he's a vampire, he needs blood and he's telling the FedEx guy fucking kick the box over here I just need it and he opens the box
Starting point is 00:12:47 and there's a blood bag in there and he starts just eating drinking the blood and he looks like you know he's got maybe a week left I'm trying to find it's kicking over to assets to bear I can't remember if it was SGF there's a IGN first it was SGF It was SGF, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Okay, okay, I see it, I see it, I see it, I got it. And then, yeah, there's like a guy levitating out in the window who's, like, trying to fight him. And obviously, they're in a prolonged altercation. And what is all that about? It's very interesting, but it would have hit so hard if we hadn't already seen it. It was so confusing at Game Awards because it was like, wait, I thought this game's in the fucking 14th century. 14th century, nailed it. And they were like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And after the fact, they're like, no, it is. We just wanted to give you a glimpse and a hint of where his story's going. You're like, I don't even fucking know this guy. Yeah. Like, again, like, this should have been at the post credits. I shouldn't have seen it. Or this should have been introducing the blood of Dawn Walker three or, you know, or two or wherever we're out to go.
Starting point is 00:13:46 But I assume we're going to stay in 14th century on the next one because we have to figure out what's going on with our baby sister. I love that he's still supporting the same hairstyle. I know, right? All these years later, he has not figured out a new hairstyle. Yeah. It's one of those. Maybe when you get bit,
Starting point is 00:14:00 You just can't change your hair. You know, he cuts it and immediately grows right there. But then he does have the beard, so it's kind of weird. What I really needed from him was just a couple of strands of hair coming down near the, like, near the end. You know what I mean? Like, like, I always think about how our friend Echo Chloe loves Rafe from Uncharted and how cool he looked when his hair is just kind of when he's like at the end of his rope or whatever. That's what I needed a bit more from Cohen near the end. And also, maybe a couple of hair styles.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Let me have my hair down. Again, I think that. Like, let me look like Scott Stap from Creed. I think that'll, I think they're going to patch in Transmog, because I want to be able to transmob my clothes for as much as this stuff matters. And I think future games that you, the next game, that'll be like, they're one of their big additions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:42 You can really customize your Cohen. But let's talk about customizing our story. Madeline, Andy, did you kill your mom? No. I did during the preview. Yeah. Yeah. And that blew me away when I started the review of the game.
Starting point is 00:14:58 because during the preview I totally did not get the chemistry right for making that little dish. If you're unaware, yeah, in the beginning of this game you are sent on your first real fetch quest to make your mom a tea or a soup, I forget which it is, make a concoction, that'll help her have enough strength to go to church
Starting point is 00:15:18 and do the damn thing. But you have to remember the recipe and pay attention to what they're saying. And it's such a great skill check right off the gate of like, oh, this isn't an RPG, just click through the dialogue. Yeah. You got to pay attention, you got to remember what you're doing. And so then if you come back, if you fuck it up, yeah, she can die in the church. But it is one of those moments
Starting point is 00:15:34 that doesn't really come back at all, that sort of mechanic. And I was hoping it would because there's a very popular or very popular. It's just a mission in the Witcher 3. In a very popular game, the Witcher 3. Never heard of it. You are... I'm saving myself for
Starting point is 00:15:52 Witcher Wednesday. You are replacing somebody in a theater play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you are given a script. And I just thought, I'll know, you know, whatever, they're giving me the script, but it'll just pop up.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I can just access it. But then the time comes to recite your line on stage, and I'm like, oh, I was supposed to memorize that? Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, I failed a couple of those selections or whatever. I love stuff like that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:20 So this kept me on my toes, and the second time around, I remembered like, all right, remember the chemistry of it all. and the first time I did this during the preview I did not remember the exact ingredients for the recipe and when we got up to that altar
Starting point is 00:16:37 Brent's like look at this little weak piece of shit and immediately kills her on that altar bites into her neck and if you remember on the preview I mentioned I was hoping for a bit more of an of an of an emotive in that moment I was wanting a bit more emotive stuff
Starting point is 00:16:55 from Cohen because you're watching your mom get killed on the altar. And he's just kind of like, no. And I needed like, no, like I needed something massive. But it was cool the second time around to go like, oh, my God, you can save her. That's insane thing. This was one of my trepidations, the emote part. I would say this entire opening where like I had read the game and former cover piece and been like, oh, man, this sounds awesome.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I talked to you about it. I was like, oh man, this story sounds great. And playing it, I was feeling like, oh, man, some of these scenes aren't hitting. Like, I'm not getting the emotion I need, nor might necessarily getting the explanation. Like, the silver mines and the fact that that, you know, that Cohen has the silver in his blood from working and breathing. And that's why Brent's is kind of, like, that I think is explained in depth in the game and former interview piece. And I was like, that's really cool. And then playing the game, I was like, if I hadn't read that, I don't know if I would understand that this is somehow tied to the minds or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And then I was like, is the whole game going to be? like this where it's like, I have to use theater of the mind to fill in gaps or whatever. And I don't think it was. I think we get out of that. And I was like, okay, I'm, I'm into the flow of their storytelling. I want to pause right there because upon experiencing that and upon good use of a pawn. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And I'll use it a second time. And upon completing the game myself, I, I think that was game informer speculating. Oh, okay, okay. I don't think it was his, because a lot of people were exposed to silver. and they're biting them all the time.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah. I, there are a couple of moments in here, correct me if I'm wrong, Madeline, if you remember, but there's a couple moments where Brenciss, the head vampire, kind of alludes to there's something greater within you.
Starting point is 00:18:42 That's why. Okay. Your shit hurt me. It wasn't like this, I have, you know, exposure to just being in these silver mines. Because there's a lot of people in the silver mines. Chaos Killer says,
Starting point is 00:18:54 they mentioned the silver in the lungs once in the game. We're silver in the blood. Because I thought when he bit him, go ahead. No, I was going to say, I remember, and I might be wrong, one of my favorite little pieces, and I think we talked about this, like, we alluded to this in our initial review, is like, you can meet up with Brenciss at this area called Shrikes Crag. And that whole scene is awesome. If you, did you both do that?
Starting point is 00:19:18 No. Which one is, when I go to like negotiate with him, like to bar? Yeah, I did that one. Yeah. So they do talk about it there, Andy. Oh. That's so crazy that you didn't even do it because it's such like a major part and that's one of the things I love about like RPGs, right? And having options and stuff, which is that he talks about like when he put his nail into or his tooth into Cohen.
Starting point is 00:19:42 That's like what turns you into the vampire. But yeah, that the silver already inside of him does affect the vampire nail differently. And they're not turning like they can drink anybody, but it's the it's the tooth into the body that. changes it and they're not putting their teeth into all of these people they're just drinking them gotcha okay okay that makes sense because i i don't know there's there is that moment when he immediately reacts to the biting of cohen and he says what are you yeah yeah yeah yeah and that kind of sucks that it's just well he has silver in his blood i was hoping it was like you've got some over here in the chat out of time dad says uh lacra says that uh the dawn walkers
Starting point is 00:20:20 blood doesn't taste good so maybe it's just yeah i wonder it's a combination of the of yeah there's something about him and the silver fucked with him, I don't know. So it's interesting you bring up the parley with Brancis. I want to know your first play through for each of you, how did you beat the game? Like what was your path to fighting him?
Starting point is 00:20:43 I, and I did not meet up at that spot. I knew that I wanted to, I wanted to create the sword. Yeah. You know, and that was like super, important to like, no, I really, really want to do this.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I beat it with like two days left. Nice. I thought it would be about six days or so, but I kept on, you know, finding one more thing or whatever. And yeah, I killed him in the, I'm blanking on the name, but like in the nightmare world. Yeah, the vampire world. Yeah. That's, I think you end up there no matter what. Okay. Got you got three endings I've done. Like, they're different up until a point. Gotcha. You get into the fight with him and then you go to vampire world to kill. Yeah, I beat his ass there. Hell yeah. Okay. What was your avenue to, Brincess Madeline.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah, so I met up with him because I wanted to see what he said. And I'm so glad I did because I feel like we talked about, I thought he was so interesting and I feel like I know nothing about him. And that little chunk at Shrig's Crag was the most time we got with him. And I was wrapped. I was like listening to his every single word about why he did what he did, why he took over the town, like his motivations. Like he was still a very evil man.
Starting point is 00:21:50 But I was like, okay, I love getting some insights onto why things ended up the way that they did. But obviously did not side with him because he is very evil. I ended up going with Craig. I went with his whole thing. So I met up with him. We had a little romance going on. And then we stormed the castle and we did that together.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And I really liked that. The funny thing is that I did not know. So I completely missed Lacra all of her stuff. No. Somehow when I met her, I must have dialogued my way of like, fuck you lady or something. I never saw her again after our first encounter. She's cool as fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I didn't do anything with her. And so I literally went back to I had saved every single day. So I have like day one day. I was saved for every day of my play through. So I went back to try to find before I had interacted with her. So I could see some of her stuff because she's really interesting. And I didn't even know until the end of the game, seeing other people play that we could spend more time with her. And then she has a whole ending as well.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah. It was the immediate, like, I beeline the second that I get the mis- Rumor of another. Hear a rumor. There's a, there's a woman Vrakir in the city. I'm like, oh, shit, that sounds so fascinating. Yeah. Same with Vicho.
Starting point is 00:23:08 There's another rack here. Oh, shit. I got to figure out this dude. Like, I love it. It's so compelling, you know. Yeah. Yeah, for me, I did the craik ending as well. I didn't romance him.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I was Anka all the way or whatever. Did you do the dirty with him, Madeline? Yeah, both. Hell yeah. And my Cohen is canonically bisexual. I love that. I love that. It was me and Enka.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah. And then she was like, we can't. Yeah. You know, come on. You're a vampire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah. So it's like, all right. I'm a booty call, but that's okay. I'll accept that. That's one of those moments I'm not going to forget of just busting out laughing in headphones at my desk and bless looks at me and I'm like, I'm having a graphic sex seat right now at the office. Like I have the way we go at it and then I immediately flip her. around. I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:23:57 All right. This is happening right now. And then I had real bloody sex with lacra. Oh, yeah? I don't know. So, I'm sorry, we're getting upshare. Oh, yeah. I did. So I rolled with Craig because in my head when I was role-playing this, I was like,
Starting point is 00:24:12 I'm here to get my family. So I want to, I want to be as strong as possible and get them out as quickly as possible. Early on, I had done the quest with walked into my accident with Father Florian. They gave me the back door. Okay. He's like, hey, you can go here and you can talk to this guy and he'll let you in.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I was like, cool. And like, I was so early. I was still like 20 days on the clock. And I was like, you know what? I'm about to go to bed. I'm sure I'm going to get my head kicked in. What if I do it? And I went in the back door and I got my fucking face kicked in.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It was the first time like the monster flying dude dropped down. Like what the fuck is this thing? Fucked me up in two seconds. So then when I went and actually played, it was Craig's storyline that ended first and gave me the army and did the thing. And I went and did it. And I wasn't satisfied with. I had already beaten all.
Starting point is 00:24:55 all the, you know, the satellite vampires, all the, you know, princes's court got in there. You know, you come in with this douchebag king who's just an asshole or whatever he is, you know, Jamie Lannister type or whatever. I did not deal with Florian at all. Oh, this isn't Florian anymore. Oh, this is, so when you do the Craig thing and you team up with the rebels, you basically open the back, back door to the kingdom and let in the other kingdom that
Starting point is 00:25:19 had been driven out. Gotcha. So now their royalty is going to take over. And they send in some guy who's immediately an ass like, this is a bad, fucking call. This sucks. That's the argument like Brents makes of like, am I worse than the guys you're letting
Starting point is 00:25:31 in that are just going to be boot on the neck of everybody else? Anyways, though, so we did the whole thing and beat them. Obviously, we all ended up at the same place right of Lunkah. A little zombie monster or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And I was like, damn. And I was like, I wouldn't have done it this way if I had, you know, if I wasn't role playing, trying to play a video game. And even that,
Starting point is 00:25:51 though, was that I think I was in the middle of that ending. And I'm killing everybody. and somebody made a reference to LACRA and I was like, oh, right. I had started that thing and it was one of those
Starting point is 00:26:03 Come back in the day and I forgot all about it. So I hadn't even gone and met granddaddy vampire. I hadn't done any of this shit. That shit was awesome. I came back and did a run where I went back and did that and talked to him and did, because that was awesome, meaning the vampire that, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:17 made obviously Brent sister and then made us and it was our grandfather and then the fact that he tortured. I'm with you, Madeline. We talked a little bit about in the review and now we can talk way more. about it, right? The idea that like, Brenciss is so interesting and it's that problem
Starting point is 00:26:31 we've seen so many movies and stories of here he is at the beginning, fucking hours without him. And then here he is at the end. And if you want to engage with these ending stories, you can get there, but I wanted him peppered throughout. I hope they do that the next one some regard. Well, when you get those
Starting point is 00:26:47 like, you know, missives of like when your notoriety level goes up of like what the different underlings are saying about you. Because I also would have liked to have more interactions with them as well of just like, what are they thinking? What are they doing? And I think the sort of notoriety notes of like, Oh, Cohen's fucking our lives up. You see notes from different missions that you get, right? They're like, oh, Cohen's fucking up all the slug farms or the leech farms. We got to get him. But it's like,
Starting point is 00:27:15 I would have liked to interact with them a little bit more or seen more of them because I feel like by the time you go to kill them, you're like, oh, I've like heard of you, but I don't, I don't really know anything about you and I'm going to kill you in 30 seconds. So bye, I guess. I mentioned on the review that I wish that they, and what I would assume is if they had more budget, they would have loved to have done stuff like that because I would have loved the ghost of Yote approach. After so many missions, you cut to a dude and he's like, they did what?
Starting point is 00:27:45 You know, he's like, you know, I want to see him being a jerk to all of his like underlings or whatever. Not brinsess, but all. Yeah, yeah. Broome, brum. linging on the dude with the long hair. The pretty boy? Yeah, he reminded me of...
Starting point is 00:27:57 Ambrus. Ambrose, yeah. Yeah, I wish we got a bit more opportunities to see their personality because they had a lot of personality. Yeah, exactly. That was the thing I think, you know, using them almost as caricatures, right? Where Ambrose looks so much like Lestat from interview with the vampire, the TV show right now
Starting point is 00:28:16 that I was like, I don't need much more. I already know who you are. You know, Zanth, all right, you're some crazy fucking witch. And then, of course, back here. I'm like, all right, you're like Gingas Colin right-hand man kind of vibe. Get it. I got it. You know what I mean? And that worked for me for them. But Brinces, I felt was just like so interesting. And again, the arguments he makes in each ending for why he's doing what he's doing. I thought we're cool. Yeah, I was going to say, did you all, did you invite
Starting point is 00:28:39 the different underlings like into your mind? So you have the option, right, to, to like, keep them with you or, you know, exile them into like the nether realm. What did, what did you both pick? I left all. I left. I left. them all there. Nobody's getting in here. All right, Madeline. Oh, okay. So I invite them on to my head. So you do kind of get more context for them because they're talking to you the entire rest of the game. So like anytime you're, how does that work? So anytime you're doing anything, one of them will be like, oh, I don't think that's a good idea or they'll be like, hmm. It's like, okay, you fed on children. Like, fuck you. I don't want to be a file my head. Or they'll be like, oh, I don't
Starting point is 00:29:21 be like, I think there's something dangerous up there. You got to watch out Cohen. And they kind of become like your little like angel devil on your shoulder. And like some of them become. I think Ambrose ends up being like a little bit more nice to you. He's just like a little sassy. Whereas like the Genghis Khan guy is just like pretty bloodthirsty. He's like, kill that dude. I think we should kill everyone. It's very interesting to have them throughout the game. So it's like that's what made me want even more of them because I was like, well, I killed you so quickly. And now you're here in my head. I wish I had gotten a little bit more idea of your personality, but you do get more of it
Starting point is 00:29:54 if you invite them into you. Damn, that's cool. Yeah, I didn't want any of that. I didn't want, like, again, for Cohen, I was like, my Cohen. Yeah. He wouldn't do that. Yeah. Um, when we're talking about, like, just awesome side quests, um, the sidequist with Julian, I think was one that really, really,
Starting point is 00:30:13 like, was awesome. I don't know. That's not jumping off the page. Julian's a dude. Julian's a dude who works for Ambrose. and he's like, hey, you want to kill Ambrose. Yes. I want him gone too. And granted, a lot of them have an underling who doesn't want them there anymore. But Julian's like, what I recommend we do is, I recommend that, because here's what Ambrose does.
Starting point is 00:30:41 He has an advisor that he, like a blood boy. Yeah. And he just sucks on that dude's blood constantly. That's like, that's his dude. and it's really demeaning what he does to this guy. So we got to poison this guy so that when Ambrose drinks his blood, it's going to fuck him up,
Starting point is 00:30:59 and then you can go in for the kill. And Cohen's like, poison an innocent person? Yeah, so there's an option to be like, all right, sounds good. And then the other option is poison. I don't want to just poison innocent person, or that's murder.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And he's, and Yulian replies with like, hey, you've killed a lot of people that are their underlings that are working for them. What's, why not this one?
Starting point is 00:31:19 He's very much like, is it really, Is he really innocent? Yeah. You know what I mean? He's sending me this monster. So I'm like, hey, hey, facts. That's true.
Starting point is 00:31:25 You're actually right. So let's do this. And you go on this quest to look for this poison to find the lady who could craft the poison for Julian. So that we can poison this dude. And we find out that this lady's been killed. She was out trying to find different ingredients. And she was like. She had everything she needed to do the poison.
Starting point is 00:31:49 But then she could go fight. if this one monster's gland would make it aware. Well, we don't realize that yet. Oh, yeah. We don't realize that yet. I thought we did at this point, but okay. Because Yulian then, when he's looking at this woman's dead body, he goes, I'm the blood boy. I'm the guy who Ambrose feeds on.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I want you to poison me because I want to die and I want to take him out with me. And we're like, why the fuck would you want to think? He goes, well, the reason she died was she was trying to get this gland from a big lizard monster, And that gland would make it so that I don't die. I would still, we would really fuck up Ambrose, but it would not kill me. And he's like, and I told him not to do that because I want to die. I really don't want this. I don't want to do this anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You're like, shit. So I went out to go help him go through this ritual or whatever. And I went to go fight that lizard, and I got that lizard's gland. And then you get the opportunity to put the lizard gland in the poison. Because you're like, ugh, do I? do I save this man's life because I think it's the right thing to do or let him die because he wants to die
Starting point is 00:32:54 And so I'm mixing this poison or whatever And he's like yeah If I can do the thing, you know Let's get this thing started And there's a moment where like I selected put the lizard gland in there And he puts the lizard gland in there And he looks back at Eulian
Starting point is 00:33:07 And he's like, I'm not gonna let you die You know And so we give Eulian the poison And he gets all fucked up or whatever And he goes to his ritual But he's like all right I'm ready to go and when Ambrose bites me, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And hopefully that's when you can go in for the kill. Yeah. You go down to this boss fight. Ambrose bites Julian as his blood boy before the fight starts. It does the whole thing. I'm sure it was the same for you, right? Of like, I always do this before a fight. Why don't you drink with me?
Starting point is 00:33:38 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like a big sweat drop of like, ooh, because you kind of make eye contact with Yulian as he's with Ambrose. And he's like, you know, you know what? You take a drink first, says Ambrose to Cohen and Cohen. And I declined and I was like, why would I trust you? I went with the option of, um, you're offering a drink to me. I thought you're this high and mighty. I'm just a poor little fucker. And here you are like, how embarrassing for you
Starting point is 00:34:04 to do this. And he's like, you know what? Whatever. It was just a gesture. So he bites into Julian. Get all fucked up. Yeah. Makes the fight easier for me because he's constantly getting staggered. And Julian at the end of it is like, I didn't die. Why the fuck didn't I die? And my co-in, I respond, I was like, that's crazy. That's weird. Crazy, man. The most Andy respond. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Julian, that's right. You should have died. How did that happen? That's crazy. We should go like do something or whatever. And he goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Did you put the lizard gland in the poison? And I admitted.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And I said, yeah, I wasn't going to let you lose your life over this. Like, and Julian looks at me and he's like, I bet you feel so fucking good. that you're Mr. Hero and you saved my life, I wanted to die, you went against my wishes, I never want to see you again. Yeah. And I was like, damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:58 That shit is baller, dude. It was so good. It is so fucking good. Yeah, see, I did, I did, I let him. I was like, he wants to die, he gets to die. I didn't do that. When I, what stands out, I mean, like, I love all the permutations of that, like we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah. Where initially, when he came up, it was like, fuck you. Like, why would I trust you? You know what I mean? Like, is this a trap? Am I going to get jumped by, bunch of ghosts
Starting point is 00:35:19 if I go do this or whatever. But I went and I did it and you get to that point, you get the reveal and I was like, I'm not going to put the gland in. But what I loved about it then was obviously the end of, hey, drink with me, don't drink with me, whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:30 But then the actual ritual itself where he was like, hey, I'm going to say a lot of shit, don't listen to. Oh, yeah. It's going to be bad and I'm going to beg you to stop. Don't let me stop or everything. All right, cool. How bad could it be?
Starting point is 00:35:41 And then like the way he's screaming. We're back to like the acting of it, right? Holy shit. The end of this ritual going, kill me, Colin, kill me. And I selected the option of like, no, you got this. You could do this. And finally he's like, oh, thank you for not killing me.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I know. I said a lot of things. I said a lot of shit. I was some crazy shit. I didn't mean what I did. But that's like, that was one of those side quests. I'm like, oh my God. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:38:43 When Westcham first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion, inline skates were everywhere, and two out of three women rocked, the Rachel. While those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to Westjetting since 96.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. One of the things is an interesting conversation. In chat, obviously, pop off if you know the answer to this. Bakir, or Bakir, I'm probably pronouncing it. But, you know, it was a similar thing of, I finally get I've pissed him off enough that I can you know fight him his little guy shows up
Starting point is 00:39:26 and is like hey if you want to fight him the only way to get him alone is going to be to enter this fighting tournament and do the goddamn thing that way and I was like oh you're slimy and shitty and I don't like you at all and I had talked to Jordan middler throughout this review and he had been talking to me about for him and Xanth and I hope I'm pronoun to pronounce that right Xanthe Xanthi Zanthi I'm just thinking of Zanth from Diablo podcast uh Zanthi uh he midler had been like man, I just bumped into her and killed her without doing anything. She was just out in the world doing her thing. And I was like, oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And so with back here, I was like, okay, cool, I don't like your entry quest. I told that guy to shove it. And I'm like, I'm going to see if I can run into you later. And I never could. And I even did the thing where I started the quest at one point. It led me to his castle. The thing pops off. I was like, okay, hold on.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Quit, loaded the old thing, took it to nighttime, went back to the castle, hoping he would just be there doing it. he wasn't. I was like, huh, I wonder if there's a way to find him or flush him out or if this is the only avenue to actually get to him. I only, I wasn't surprised about Midler mentioning that he bought Zanthe because she's in the big castle. The cathedral, yeah. She's in that big cathedral.
Starting point is 00:40:35 And I remember that from the early footage of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, like, she's in there and that's big, you know, they're like, you could fight her here and they show off like just a little combat situation. So I knew that that was possible, but I don't think you could run into anybody else. else at any other point in the game. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was just her. Fair enough. And I wonder if it was just very story specific. But I did all that back here, the Bacier stuff, um, with the, the tournament. Oh, I did too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously. I, I was,
Starting point is 00:41:03 I was going to clear the whole court before I went in there. I was like, you know, my mind as Cohen. I'm like, I want my first chance to get in there where I can stand a chance and that was to go eliminate everybody. And I love that, you know, when you're doing the final run, I've, I've done multiple endings, but like whenever you're running through the building, you get to the parts where it is like, Santhi's gone, but I was still here. Like, I would have fought Zanthi here. If I would have left her alive, I would have fought her in this room right now.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Oh, got that there's people come in and are like, oh, man, even though he's gone, we're still going to do the thing. Oh, gotcha. I like that. You can see where it would have been. That is something since you didn't invite them into your mind. Actually, the ending where you go into the other plane and you fight, Brencissus, they help you fight him.
Starting point is 00:41:43 No shit. So that fight was extremely easy for me because I invited all three of them into my, mind and they all three used their like OP special powers to like fuck princess up in the other realm so that that ending ended up being very easy because they were both not there in the real world
Starting point is 00:42:00 and then they were all there in the other well other world and they all were ganging up on him so that was very fun well I didn't invite any of them into my mind but I made a truce with Xanthe yeah because she does the whole thing don't kill me and I can help you do
Starting point is 00:42:16 the thing and so what does she do exactly because I even had the screenshot. I'm like, fuck you. She just shows up. She tells you I can help you get, I could give you more information about what Brencice is doing underground. I can give you like more info or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Just, you know, don't kill my daughter. Don't, you know. And so I let her live. And then when you meet her at the castle, that final sort of siege, she just started waiting for you on lacra. For me and I played through lacros with me. And she's like,
Starting point is 00:42:47 damn all right cohen you you you got a little like kind of evil side to you for letting her live like i'm surprised that you let her live like shout out to you you know because lacquer's always doing the most shady shit out there i love it oh my god she was always up my ass about it was being a too a goody two shoes of everything yeah like don't do that well yeah so you fucking care we're vampires yeah so and it was funny they make mention of it when we're fighting these random people in one of the rooms lacquer goes damn yeah this would have sucked of like We're having to fight Zanthes like homies or whatever, but we didn't have to experience any of that
Starting point is 00:43:21 because you made friends with there or whatever. So yeah, there's a lot of like cool little touches here and there. Yeah, it really makes me excited to, obviously you can just watch it all, but do a replay. And I know just today the news is broken
Starting point is 00:43:32 from some Polish YouTube video in the interview they were doing where they have confirmed a new game plus is coming. Oh, nice. So eventually they weren't ready to talk anything about it, but it has been confirmed. Because I still want to do a play through where I go in
Starting point is 00:43:44 and it is every time it says, giving to the hunger, I give into the hunger. Just see what that would look like. How would that play out if I did that? You know what I mean? And also, you know, fully invest in vampire powers, which I was all sword, sort, sort, mastery, whatever they called. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stick with that, go that way and really see how that would flush out that way. I want to talk about Volk.
Starting point is 00:44:06 This is, this for me, and this is the one you're talking to Miller about it. Yeah, I was talking to Midler about this. And he had no idea what I was talking about. Volk, of course, is the blind man who it turns out as you play through. worked or was a soldier alongside your father. We didn't know our father well it turns out he had quite the past beforehand and Volk is this old man telling you stories of your father and this
Starting point is 00:44:25 was an early on side quest for me where I kept coming back every day to get a new thing and get a new thing and then it pays off with just great stories obviously the whole the you know he caught the Pope in a sexual affair and then the Pope gave him a gift and you find the thing you're like damn this actually is from the fucking
Starting point is 00:44:41 Pope. Yeah um I the thing I love the most about it is like it it gives us such a good background to your dad who's such a dickhead to you. Your dad's just always been this shut off asshole, right? And it just seems like there's never been a great connection there between Cohen and his father. And to...
Starting point is 00:45:03 The way the mission starts off is you talking to a random MPC and he's like, oh, yeah. I got a beer delivery. Yeah, we've been doing like beer deliveries out there and he's like, my dad doesn't drink. Why the fuck? And he's like, it can't be for my dad. He's like, no, it's for your dad.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And, you know, who knows what he's doing out there, like, kind of alluding to, like, your dad's probably cheating on your mom or whatever, probably whoring out there. And you go to that spot and you find out it's a dude with no eyeballs who, and your dad's just been going to take care of him. And he's an old friend of your dad's. And he's living in a cabin and he can't see. So he needs help. And your dad's going there to, yeah, let me kind of spruce up the yard.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Let me, you know, deliver a friend. food or whatever and it's like, damn, that's such a sweet little intro. And then for it to continue to evolve and for him to be probably one of my, this is one of those like inconsequential NPC like side story beats where it doesn't lead into anything fan. It's just great storytelling. See, I agree a thousand percent. But for me, it was like the encapsulation of what they do here because it's a great story. I was interested. I was having fun. And then at the end, you get your dad's chest and for where I was in the game there was a great suit of armor in where I was like oh man all the quests feed into the world nothing and I get a payoff at
Starting point is 00:46:23 the end that matters now of course when you start knocking off brenciss's guards you start getting dope-ass armor so it's like then it doesn't really cheapens everything in the world but at that moment in time the way I was taggles oh this is great yeah it's it's one of those that I would say and you know as I'm going through red dead of redemption two and as I went through the Witcher 3 and the most hardcore of hardcore fans would be in the chat and they would say you know like obviously I have to do
Starting point is 00:46:50 missions A, B, C, and D what else are there, what other missions are there out there that aren't necessarily story important but are just really damn good to experience and this would be one of those this doesn't lead you to kill in a guy who's
Starting point is 00:47:07 it's not one of those things it's just really damn good storytelling with fantastic writing and an awesome character telling you stories that, again, like you mentioned, half the time, I'm like, I don't know how many, how much of this story is true at all. And that one with the Pope is so damn good of him saying, yeah, I got this. The Pope gave me this knife and you're like, I'm not sure I believe that. He said, yeah, I caught him cheating. And he gave me this knife.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Look, there's a little writing on the knife there. You could see it. And Cohen reads, he's like, holy shit, you're right. I thought you were fucking around the whole time. It's just a really, really great endearing side quest, I would say. Yeah, I think too, and it brings a variety to kind of the tone and pace of the game. I felt like it was a very good, like, pace breaker when so many things are like so serious and so life or death.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And then you've got this, like, kind of nasty old man, it's a little bit of a perm, telling you, like, the old college stories of your dad. And you're like, my dad was like, what? Like, that's not the person who I know. And then going through that whole storyline and kind of realizing that your dad did a bunch of shitty things. He killed a bunch of people. and he kind of had a conscience of faith later on in life.
Starting point is 00:48:13 And that led him to where he is now. And he went in with the church and was like, I'm going to put all this money that I did by killing people back into God and faith and everything. And I thought that was a really fun conclusion to that as well. I love Volk's response to it of Volko and what a stupid fucking decision. Why would you give the money to church? Give it to me. At face value, it's like, all right, you're being a little harsh here.
Starting point is 00:48:37 but he's like, you're a family who needs help. Like that money could have helped you and the kids. You know what, Vol? And you're like, shit, you're right. You know what, you're making a pretty goddamn good point, did you continue to, did you give money to the church later? Yeah, I did. Okay, yeah, so did I.
Starting point is 00:48:54 What, I don't remember the, what it was just later on. All the way to the thing. Yeah, later on, you're able to continue to fund the church. And he's like, it's what my dad would have wanted, you know. Yeah. I forget if I ever did it or not. I can't remember. Very cute.
Starting point is 00:49:07 very cute another side one i love please please vio yes he's still on my thing i never did it what great if memory serves yeah this is the one i talked a little bit about uh in the review and code where i was like there's one mission that i've pissed off all of the town now so every time it's like go back at night and i don't know where i'm going
Starting point is 00:49:28 so i get there and it's like oh there and i'm like fucking 900 guards are attacking me i'm like and i'm fucking killing him no problem i'm like i can't get to the door i can't find the door to open the door. I had a, I had a hilarious moment in the town where I'm talking to
Starting point is 00:49:43 NPCs, I'm talking to an NPC and guards are going crazy attacking me from outside of the bar. It's just like, this wasn't thought out fully well, you know. So let me just read the little synopsis here.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Bicho, the owner of a curio shop in Svartrao isn't an ordinary man, he's a vrakir, but very different than the rest of them. He's deeply religious, cares about human friends, abstains from drinking human blood. But even so, I think he hates who he is,
Starting point is 00:50:10 or at least struggles with it. He refused to get directly involved in my fight against Brentes, but Alfredson helped nonetheless, and I hope that isn't his last word on the matter. So Vichot has a really awesome side quest where he has, there's some friends of his that have been killed.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And he's like, Cohen, I've been so bloodthirsty. I think it was me. And I'm scared. I'm really, really terrified that I lost control. and maybe killed them. I was eating dinner with them one night and like, fuck, I'm just really, really,
Starting point is 00:50:46 I feel, I would, you know, this is just dreadful to even think about. So you go and you do a lot of investigation and you end up getting enough evidence or whatever to find out that, okay, these people were killed by like an outside group or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Yeah. And so you're able to... By this doctor. Yeah. Yeah. His, oh man, his doctor's shit. Oh, my God. Dude.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Holy fuck. Madeline, thank you for saying that. Yeah, of course. His doctor, his dentist. His doctor's whack. Okay. His dentist. Vichot feels so bad about who he is.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah. So Vichot asks his dentist to pull all of his teeth out. Because he just doesn't want to be a vampire anymore. Yeah, yeah. Well, his dentist, very, very fascinated with all of the of Rakir shit. Yeah. His dentist ends up putting one of his teeth into his chest to become a vrakir.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah. But it's one of those that doesn't go well. He doesn't become a rackier. He becomes just like one of those monstrosity. I can't. I'm not even thinking or whatever. Yeah. So you kill him.
Starting point is 00:51:55 And then you're able to go to Vichon and be like he, he was working, doing experiments. It's his fault. Put your tooth in his chest. And he's like, fuck, I let him do. Oh my God. I'm an idiot. He put the tooth in his chest, dude. he, yeah, he probably went crazy and killed him.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And Vichos like, oh my God, thank God. I fuck, I can't even, I really hate myself now. I can't imagine I would have tried to live with myself knowing that I killed my friends. Like, thank you so much for telling me this. And then you find a note later on. And this note that you read basically elusive, the fact that, no, Vichot definitely killed them. Yeah. And you just don't break the news to them.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And you find all these other dead bodies. And they're like writing a note. about, oh, how could you have done this to us? And it's crazy. Oh, see, that's not even the one that I got. Oh, really? I read another note that was just them saying, yeah, Vecho, he can kind of go crazy. But he's coming over to dinner or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And it's the doctor warning. It's before the doctor even turned. The doctor is writing to this family or the dentist doctor or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a doctor. Yeah, he's, it's a letter from him to the family saying, really I didn't know that he would he seems like such an upstanding man they never say the name vichow but in this letter they're like I'm really really sorry to hear that you know that that happened he he seems like such a nice guy I would have never expected that out of him and so like Vecho definitely went crazy and killed his friends and you just don't tell him you just don't break the news to him yeah there's more to that quest Andy if you go to the alchemist he'll he's like can you deliver this medicine to the people on this farm outside of town and I'm like sure whatever I have got the time and so I went
Starting point is 00:53:42 out and delivered it and everyone at the farm is dead and you find notes that they invited Vecho there and then you're able to I believe compel one of them and it confirms that it's him so I go back and I tell him I'm like dude I know I already told you that it wasn't you I found further evidence that it might is you actually and he's really upset obviously and you are able to either like him or convince him to like not die like don't kill yourself i'm going to help you i'm going to source ethical blood for you and help you out through this like hard time and so that's what i ended up doing so you have to bring him blood like every couple of days or whatever so that he doesn't go crazy in the chat picked a three says that he told him and then sat with him until the sun came up and then
Starting point is 00:54:27 he died there that's crazy holy shit that's the midnight mass shit right there yeah yeah the thing The thing that I loved about my ending of that quest was like, it felt very like, it felt very twilight zone. So like, oh, we're all good. Oh, I didn't kill my friends. Oh, thank God. They're dead, but I'm still sad. And then to get that note, it felt like, it felt like, it felt like Shutter Island almost.
Starting point is 00:54:49 The end of Shutter Island, just being like reading the note and going like, oh, damn it. You did kill him. But I'm not going to tell you, man. Like, I can't break your heart. This game with this question. I want to call it. I know it's a larger one was Mihai, right? the guy who's buried in the wall with the sword.
Starting point is 00:55:05 You're on the mission for the sword. You're doing the thing. Was this the Father Florian one? I think it was, right? Where you're going down looking for a weapon that could defeat the vampires that you've been told about. And you get there and like,
Starting point is 00:55:15 oh, there's the sword in the wall. And you go to grab it and he bursts through the fucking wall. And he's crazy and he's screaming about being betrayed and all this shit. That was the one that we were watching during the review, Madeline, where I was like,
Starting point is 00:55:24 what the fuck is this? What fight is this? And Jordan was like, oh, I know what that is. And at the end, he's a Don Walker. I think this is the first in my gameplay we heard about
Starting point is 00:55:34 shit, what, the anchors, the fucking vampire brouhaha, the big guy, the big guys that at the end what? Who? Oh, I just said, oh sure. But you know what I'm talking about? I think so. At the very end of the game, the guy shows up. He's a Don Walker. Yeah. Let me get my fucking. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Thank you. The augers is what I'm looking for. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I don't know. He's like, you can trust the augurs. They'll tell you,
Starting point is 00:56:00 I'm like, all right, I don't know the fuck you're talking about. And then again, what I think so many times in video games, movies, and everything else, they beat you over the head with the thing that's supposed to be the little thing. And so the mention of the augurs here and I agree with that I know that I saw somebody in the chat talk about the augers being more involved in their ending than they were in mind. But the mention here and then for my game, nothing else all the way till the other Don Walker shows up in the post credits or the post finale, I guess, right? Where he comes and meets me at the cave and says there's a way to save my sister, but you got to work for the augers. Like, it's such a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:32 an Avengers moment for a thing I've never even heard about in my play through. I know people knew more about it than I did, but I was like, damn, this is really cool. I'm glad that it is like leaving me on such a, we finish this story, but there's clearly so much more to go. And I like, the Auger initiative. You know, yeah, he's got an eye patch on.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Even though I was like, Cohen, how fucking stupid are you? You can't look at his eyes and know that he's a dawn. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, back to you matter. Yeah, I was just saying there's, there's just such good world building that it does feel like you know that there's a lot of other things happening outside of your valley. And I think that that makes me feel so much invested in where the story is going to go.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Because, yeah, I don't feel like everything that's happening here is everything that's happening in the world, which I think can sometimes feel rare. Yeah, for sure. I mean, when, and I forget the vampire, the Don Walker who shows up at the end of the game, but the Don Walker who shows up at the end of the game and being like, he's like, we wouldn't have taken care of this eventually. Like, we were on our way to come here and take care of Brances. But, you know, it's cool that you did it.
Starting point is 00:57:25 But now you need to work. It's back to it of like the powers that be in what's going on in the outside, let alone Lacra, who has. didn't get enough time with and I was that sexy during this. Holy shit. Crazy sexy. Jesus Christ. Crazy. You find that. I need to see this.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Find a little fruit in a cave. Some, it just blooms whenever some special shit happens. She's like, man, this is, I don't give a fuck about any other notes we find. This is like, this is the shit.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Go ahead and take a bite. And you take a bite of it and you're just like, oh man, you just feel like this is, this is crack right now. Like I'm doing drugs. This is amazing. And then she's like,
Starting point is 00:58:05 come over here, take a bite, you know, go ahead. And you bite into her neck. And then I played the dumb route, but she's like, you know, we could do other things right now, Cohen. And I played like the,
Starting point is 00:58:18 what other things? She's like, sex Cohen. And it is crazy, man. It was awesome. Good shit. Have it all recorded.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Of course you don't. You want to live. My screenshots with Unka. There's a several ones. to see a row. Arturo, Tron, Robo, bartender, super chatted earlier, like I said and said, like Cohen's dad, I am a veteran. Like Cohen, I lost my little brother and mother. This story hit hard, eight out of ten game, ten out of ten experience.
Starting point is 00:58:45 What a great RPG. I can't wait for the follow-up. Again, talking about all of these different things in the threads and what we enjoyed, I was floored when we got to the stuff about Cohen's little brother. Yes. That whole mission is crazy. crazy at the windmill. Did you do this with his brother who falls through the ice? No. Oh, Andy, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:59:10 It's like, yeah, it's one of those where I'm trying to roll back to when me and Midler were talking about it. Hold on, hold on, hold. Because I know that I have the name in there. Oh, like, we always knew that like there was that one of them died. I just, wow. Yeah, but there's a whole mission that has like a time loop mechanic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Do you know what we're talking about? No. Okay, yeah. Like there's one, yeah, where you go back. And yeah, home sweet home was the quest. Alan was the brother. You go and there's all these references that start happening. And then, yeah, you get caught in this time move.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Who is it? I forget who puts him under the spell. It's the magic guy who's making all of the flying creatures. Right. Called the gallows or. Yeah. Yeah, he puts you. Sorry, going to go about to go.
Starting point is 00:59:54 He's making them. And yeah. And he, when you try to reach him to like stop him from making them for Brancis, he puts you under this. spell that puts you in a time loop and it brings you back to the very beginning of the game. Like your hometown, you're trying to get to your parents. Literally coming out of your room and chop the wood and talk to your family and then all help. And so you keep going through it and then you start hearing more and more of this
Starting point is 01:00:15 little boy's voice and all this other stuff. And then yeah, you get pulled off to the side and you're communicating with your dead brother who before, I guess he would have been the second born, right? Before any of this happened, he fell through the ice and you were just a kid, Cohen and you ran back to get help but it was too late and this is why your father's so estranged and weird on top of his veteran stuff. It's why, you know, this is a fucked up family to begin with. It's you've been carrying all this guilt and like, I'm sitting there. I'm looking at it right now. I'm sitting there tearing up as my brother as a ghost is communicating to me and telling me about like letting go.
Starting point is 01:00:53 It's not your fault. He's like, did you mean? Oh, you meant to kill me? Of course I didn't mean to kill you. Well, then how can you blame yourself? Yes. It was an accident. It would have, like, God, it's insane.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And then at the very end, I forget, he pops back up in some way, too, that I figure what it was, but it caught me off guard of how much I was touched. Roaring Beagle says you can stay in the dream too. Yeah. So if you, there, you are in a loop and you have to go through the loop, I think, like two or three times. You see your parents get taken over and over and killed, and you have to, like, basically break out of the loop. If you can choose not to break out of the loop and then you have the bad ending of, like, being stuck in this illusion where you, you have to, you know, you have. your family is like happy but it's not real and you're stuck in the sort of like fucked up alternate reality too so fucking cool that's so crazy this is game chaos killer x7
Starting point is 01:01:40 super chat says this is a nine out of ten story wrapped in an eight out of ten production budget the main thing i need them to do is very up quest design too many combat slogs in the later half yeah i ended up dropping the difficulty just a seam rule to go a little bit faster yeah um And I've done that And I noticed myself doing that in a games where I'm like, all right, a little bullet sponge you right here. I'm not dying. It's just I'd like this... I've done that before you. I'd like this six minute
Starting point is 01:02:10 encounter to take three minutes or two minutes or whatever. So I ended up doing that. And I think that's always like a mark of a game that I'm not fully in love with the whole combat of it all. And I do wish that I do wish that there were just like more abilities on either vampire or witchcraft side. Like I wish it wasn't just all sword play. And even though...
Starting point is 01:02:39 Did you use claws ever? I did use the claws a decent amount, yeah. I guess like I wish it wasn't just all that directional Perry-based stuff. Sure. Okay. Because it very much felt like your turn, my turn, your turn my turn. Yeah. And I wish...
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah, I saw some problem. the power's going and I was like really whipping it around. I felt like, and I was generating stamina so quickly, not stamina, you know, the little activation charges so quickly. That's when I felt like it opened up and I was like, oh, I'm super powered here. Yeah. But I'm with you of like, it could be redundant. I was enjoying it the whole way through though.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Except the dogs. I hate to fighting the dogs. I brought up like, I wish that there was a stagger or a posture meter and, you know, some people, you know, in the comments are like, he just wants everything to be a soul's like. But I like when Perry's lead to a weakening. Sure. Even though the parries here can lead to you hitting back stronger immediately,
Starting point is 01:03:33 I do like, all right, well, I'm going to try to parry this whole chain of attacks. And whether there's five attacks in a row, if I'm able to do that, I can hit that. All right, now you're super weak. Now let me go for the big kill. And, you know, if there were maybe some abilities that helped me, you know, make that critical hit stronger or whatever, I would have enjoyed that a bit more. but that's why that's why I kind of fell off. It reminds me a lot of my time with
Starting point is 01:03:58 with First Preserker Kazan where everything was just so tanky near the end of that game. I was like, all right, I'm kind of, it's worn out, it's welcome, I would say. Fair enough. Daniel Super Shats says, great game, but I hope the sequel steps
Starting point is 01:04:12 further out of the Witcher 3 Shadow. The music was especially distracting with its similarity. Cohen rocks. The amount of times I was playing, I mean, I'm like, man, I feel like Cohen's a young, Gerald. Gerald.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Do I know what? No. One thing I brought up to you Was I We'll see if Madeline agrees with me I really just wanted to be able to Teleport to a tree and plane shift up there And then drop down on enemies
Starting point is 01:04:41 Some stealth stuff would have been Yeah because you never really have elevation Unless you're near a mountain And so you have the kill people from up top And that works when you're in like the one city of Svartrao Or unless you're on like a little roof that's maybe six feet above the ground. But there's like, I always, I love the moments of being able to drop down an enemy,
Starting point is 01:05:00 take out that dude, or at least take out a big chunk of that more tanky class of enemy's health. For sure. And I would have loved to just, I kept on getting the vibes of like, man, if this were like predator hunting grounds, it was just such an old callback. But let me tell up, let me like, you know, zip up to a tree. I'll be on the tree. Then I can jump and then go up to another tree and I can kind of chain things together.
Starting point is 01:05:22 but that probably would add another you know 12 months of development time I think next time I think next time around we'll get over there I would have loved a lot more verticality like you're saying only because like you are pretty much just in a field almost the entire game so it's like I think that would have helped you feel a little bit more variety in the combat too I didn't even put any perk points into the death from above
Starting point is 01:05:44 thing because I'm like I'm never above anyone we're always eye to eye like no one is I'm never above you ever if I could go to the trees or if there were more buildings around like there are those towers but there's never usually anybody near them like the town. A glide man, let me glide off those powers and other high stuff in the lane and swoop in on people.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Chocolate Fox 9 Superchats says, did you know you can shadow step in the middle of a fight as a vampire? I didn't know till the end of the game when I accidentally hit my trigger. It would have been cool if I noticed earlier but it was still a fun eight out of ten. Yeah, it's cool to kind of like you know you pop up behind and the enemies like what the fuck? They freak out. When I started
Starting point is 01:06:18 when I was like oh man I can slow down time I unlocked that perk way too late where I was like oh man I love slowing down time and fucking people up. I should have done this way earlier. I wish there was a, like a Wolverine-style jump and pounce. Boom, get on, you know, to kind of like close the gap. Yeah, you know, moments like that. I think that would have been a cool combat ability.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Gary, the third super chast is seven out of ten for me. 50 plus crashes, I can't, I just can't go any higher. But excited to see what the studio does from there. Some great quest interweaving, truly bat shit to show modern stuff. But what a fucking mess on PC? see. I played on the Razorblade 16 over here. I didn't, and the Steam or no, I'm sorry, the ROG ally. I didn't have problems.
Starting point is 01:06:58 But I mean, I'm not saying that discounts it. That sucks for you. I apologize. That sucks. No, I had zero issues. How's it going? I'm Cohen. Says Andy. Can you tell us how the Volt Quest ended for you? I've had two different endings. Oh, okay. My Volkest was basically him just leaving.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yeah, I came back. There was a note being like, hey, I got to go. I'm going to piece out. Yeah. I left you, my sword or whatever. And yeah, I had to. Madeline, is that how it went for you? Yeah, same. I gave the money to the church and then when I came back to
Starting point is 01:07:30 tell him he was gone and he was like, here's my stuff, hope it helps. And I guess there had been people from the town who had heard that I was hanging out with him. And so I think, I don't know if he died or if he left. I think we'll see him again one day. Yeah, I think so too. Maybe I will.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I don't know. Everybody else has kept him left. One thing I also loved was just becoming homies with Ocha and then any time I ran into other people for them to be like oh shit you're Ocha's guy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah come in here or whatever so going up to that settlement
Starting point is 01:08:01 that they have up in the mountains for them to be so welcoming because I know Ocha but there's a great comedic beat there because I did the lacra ending and I'm adventuring with lacra to all these places and so you go up into the mountains to sort of meet them and try to get information about
Starting point is 01:08:17 is brand I think grandfather. Yep. You go up to the mountains and she's like, all right, you're kind of, you know, step aside. I know what I'm doing, Cohen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm old as shit. I've been around for centuries, whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And we get there and they're, they immediately walked down and they're like, oh, you're oldch's friend. Come up. You're good. Yeah, you can say she got to go. Yeah. And then, no, no, he just says. And then Cohen just kind of gives her a look like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I guess I am pretty good. You know, and she's like, oh, fuck off. really great moment there. Did you guys do similar? You were talking about Oshra, right? The erashi, Ariashi. Did you run into the Ariashi in town
Starting point is 01:09:02 that was begging for help with the woman who was selling her body in the night? Yeah, that's Ocha. That's Ocha. I wasn't? I thought, oh, you're right, it is, it is. From that, I loved that conversation
Starting point is 01:09:13 when it was over and I went with the good guy ending. I forget what even what the quench thing was, or I didn't do the bad. thing or whatever. Oh, I blew. I blew the stealth. I fucked that up. It was one of those penitentiated me. I fucked up the, whatever magical. And I came back and told
Starting point is 01:09:28 Usha about it. And they were like, oh, they revealed what they were going to do. Like, wait, were you just going to take over and be bad too? It literally just shrugs. I'm like, all right. I'm rock with you. I see what's up. Yeah, I. Which is like, I wanted to be the drug lord. And now you're not going to let me. So what's the hell? That's
Starting point is 01:09:45 one that I saved scumbed because I just wanted to see what happened with that spell or whatever. Because when the spell messed up, then you go on it, you just kill him. Yeah, exactly. But because I did the spell, he, you know, his fucking head explodes or whatever. And he's yelling in just insane pain before he dies. And then you go in there and he like, Ocha comes in and you look at Ocha, you're like, he's going to get messed up in the head?
Starting point is 01:10:11 Like, that's what you called it? Look at what happened to him, you know? It's really, really funny shit. And then I told her to. I told her to do what's going to make her happy. Nice. Go travel if you want. Yeah, because she was like, you know, they want me to go back to my clan, but I'm just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Like I love being out here. I love being in the city. I'm just being out here. I'm a city gal, you know. I love just kind of blazing my own trail. So I said, go do that. And she said, I will. I will.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Final super chat comes from Joshy Frog. Hi, Madeline. Hi, Andy. Greg, Ghostbusters Roosevelt's. I'm well aware today. Hi, Joshy. at three, what is it? It's 4 p.m.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Eastern. So 1 p.m. Pacific, they're dropping a Roosevelt's Ghostbusters collection. It will be hard not to spend Ben's entire college fund on it because some of the stuff looks pretty cool. And that's our spoiler cast. Obviously, this is a humongous game. We continue to go into a million different ways about it and all the different. What, I guess, did you all go back and roll different endings? Or did you do your ending and walk away? No, I had to start up other shit. It's like I did the ending where, okay, I went in with the guy, the, uh, uh, Craig and wiped him out. you know, I felt like we'd done the whole thing and you get there and then, yeah, but, you know, you go find your family and, okay, cool, they're down here in a dungeon or whatever, except
Starting point is 01:11:25 the Luka, you got to figure out, all right. Then the one where I did the, I'm going to be the one man army. I'm going to go in there and thrash the place and get in there. Did all of that. And when it was all very similar of like, I'm catching everybody off guard and killing them. And then it was like, well, Princess ran downstairs to get something ready. And I'm pretty sure this is the one where I go downstairs and it's the entire family at the banquet table.
Starting point is 01:11:45 He made them all sit at a banquet table or whatever. he's fucking with him there. I thought that was really cool. Then you had the parlay one. He brings your dad. And like, you don't fucking, you don't fuck me up.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I'm not gonna fuck up your dad or whatever. And then he ends up fucking up your dad at the end. I probably because I fuck him. After him or some shit. Like a lot of fun permutations of all that. And then, of course, getting to the end,
Starting point is 01:12:05 every talk to their mom, I assume, did mom talk to everybody? Yes. Yeah, yeah, that was a sweet little moment. But that's where I would have killed her.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Which is just crazy if she wasn't alive. Like, she would be there. You're there and dad's like, I hate life. This fucking sucks everybody. When your sister at the end, everyone got the cave ending with your sister, with Luka and she's a vampire, right? Is anybody else in the cave with you?
Starting point is 01:12:29 Yeah, it was Vecho and Lackra. Oh, no, yes. I only, I only ever had the other Don Walker. And then the auger showed up, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I just had Vecho, but because I missed Lackra, she wasn't there. So, and then Greg, you didn't have anybody. No, yeah, I was all alone. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:48 What a game. Excited for the future. Excited for updates. You know, we keep talking about, obviously the Witcher 3 being about to drop with this remaster,
Starting point is 01:12:55 whatever, Reaver, whatever they're calling it. I think the Witcher, you know, updated over time for so long. I'll be interested in how Rebel Wolf support this. Again, today, new game plus is confirmed.
Starting point is 01:13:07 I'll be interested to see what they add over time. Hopefully we get some DLC, but hopefully they get to work on the next game because I want to see where Cohen's story's going. The banger. How old is Anka? Dude, don't get me started. She's like, I'm 20 years older than you, Cohen.
Starting point is 01:13:21 She's like 40. So like what's crazy about all that is like my initial thought was, you know, I'm so old Cohen. I'm so old. I'm, you know, I'm just an old hag out here. And she doesn't look it. Add some white hair. Add some white hair to her, you know, if you want to like, you know, fake that age. But throughout all that, I go, ah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I bet you she's like a thousand-year-old witch. Yeah, she's been doing a lot of that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then for the fact of him to be like, quit saying you're old. You're not old. I thought we were going to get a big revelation of like, no, I've been here for centuries, Cohen. Nope, she's just 40. She's just 40 years old.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Yeah. She's like, I'm an ancient hag. Yeah. I liked all the nun stuff for them, too. We don't have to get into it. But like the nun. And then I like that. I thought that was such a okay, cool ending in that, or I'm sorry, Quest.
Starting point is 01:14:15 quest. And then at the ending when it gives you a little like pan, your dioramas and it brought it up, I was like, oh shit. I didn't think about that. And my nuns are still torturing these people. I didn't handle that situation correctly at all. Later on to talk to one of the really, really old ladies in town.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah. And somebody in chat brought up, man, she must be 200 years old. Everybody, that's our spoiler cast for the blood of Don Juan. Walker. I almost got myself again. Cushman. Of course, what do you think? Let us know in the comments below.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Remember, send me banana cream pie every day or whatever the fuck it is on BS. I know you're looking at this one. I hope you enjoyed it. We want to hear your theories. We want to know where you want this story to go. Do you not just want to go with a word that's easier to connect it? Nope. Don't want to do it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:04 I like banana cream pie every day. Like Donnie Walker or something. Donnie Walker or something. Donny Walker blues. A lot of banana cream pie. If there's a banana cream pie in there, I'll understand what it's about. Blood sex with lacra. Madeline, where can people keep up with you?
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