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Episode Date: May 13, 2016

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gamescast is show where we talk about video games and other shit, Colin. Yeah, sometimes it goes. I know you were going to, you and Greg might just get on the table on the table and 69. Well, there was a lot This table cannot take us both being on at 6090. A lot of requests for us to do the show. I had to pass on that one.

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You're helping people out. Trust me, you'll get satisfaction for it. So that's going to be good. all time. I'm gonna get right fucking into it. Okay. You know, the show.com slash kind of funny games, all that stuff. Sure. Topic number one, sex and games. Sure. We're talking a broad

sense here. We're talking about what is your first memories of seeing sex in games? What are some good examples of sex and games? What are some bad examples of sex and games? When I say sex and games, let's start it off here. What do you think about? I mean, for me, like hot

coffee is the first thing that jumps to life. What is hot coffee, Greg? Of course, in Grand Theft Auto, San Andreas. There was a sex mini game that didn't make the final cut, but was still hidden in the code. And so in the PC version, people could get to it. And everybody flipped the fuck out. And it, like, for a week earned them an AO rating. And it was taken off of shelves, da-da-da-da-da.

And Rockster had to reprint the game, put it back out and not have that in there. And it was a huge brouhaha. Because, of course, the news media picked it up that Grand Theft Auto has a sex mini game in it, and that was it. Everybody flipped the fucking. I love me a good brouhaha. You know what I mean, calling these people, just grabbing it headlines. Oh, they didn't do any investigative journalism

to find out what was really happening. Do you ever seen it though? Yeah, oh yeah. The hot coffee scene? Hell yeah. It was like, damn, this is... Tittalating. This is completely a letdown.

Just these, like, really poor animations of C.J. Humping some lady from doggy style. And it was like, oh, all right. I can see why this is a huge deal. What's weird about it is that it was such a big deal back in what? 2004-ish. Yeah, San Andreas came in 2004. I don't know if it was found until 2005, probably.

Because it was on... I don't think it came to PC right away. Sometimes around there. And it was just like that... Everyone was talking about that and that was like a national headline thing. It wasn't even just like an IGN headline thing. Because it's the biggest game of going. It somehow had this thing hidden behind.

I understand why it was such a sexy headline, but it was just like so poorly reported. Because it made it sound like, you know, you do the Konami code and there you are. You're banging some lady. Yeah. But now it was like some weird hidden shit. But what's extremely interesting to me is then you look at like the later GTAs

to get way more realistic looking. Sure. Next gen shit. You're talking about GTA 5. the straight up just the scenes in that are like not hidden at all part of the game yeah like when you get the prostitutes in the car GTA 5 it's like it's pretty graphic right

but there's no penetration no penetration you can't see that there wasn't penetration hot coffee either sure but there is implied I mean it's implied in the I know I know I know I know it's really interesting what 10 years does of course yeah yeah yeah desensitizing people

well there's that yeah and then Colin I need your help on this is Mr. Retcher I want to say what is it I'm thinking of an Isn't it? A naughty dog game? Super Nintendo or Sega where you could put in a code and it would change the

Fox logo to a naked lady. What am I thinking of? Maybe it wasn't naughty dog or something. They didn't make us any games, but it could be a Genesis game like rings of powers. Let me look that up because I remember that one would be a big deal

that there was like a secret code that you could get a naked lady out. I mean there was there's ancient, what was it like that? There are a lot of like old PC games from the 80s that were like puzzle games that would show naked ladies

like in like very pixelated forms. Obviously, I think it's like leisure suit Larry. You have super racist and sexist games like Custer's Revenge, which I think is probably the first really overt use of sexuality. Yeah, and a really like very offensive game for a lot of people, rightfully so. I think that in terms of, you know, so I think you kind of put these things together like implied sex. Like I think there was like implied sex to a degree in even Final Fantasy 4 and Final Fantasy 6.

Or just like love kind of like very closeness with some characters, whatever. But you don't really see it, you know, with Sprites or whatever like that. think that with, you know, I think Grand Theft Auto probably was the, like, three into a bigger vice sitting than San Andreas even more, I think, and then four even more were my first real introduction of video games, sex, as it were. Then it was with Mass Effect and then it was with Uncharted. And now it's just a normal thing. Yeah, which is kind of unfortunate. I mean, like, I have, I. Rings of Power was correct. Brings of Power. Yeah. So, like, I kind of feel this way in cinema, too, like in movies and TV. Like, I'm watching the Americans right now.

And, uh, which is fine. It's a, a show takes place in the 80s. about Soviet spies. But like it's very hypersexual and like I don't see like I've never really seen an example in fiction of where like showing graphic sex or showing like the act as opposed to implying or whatever ever adds to the story ever. Like I can't think of a single

example of like where I'm like well that was really needed you know as opposed to like just showing me the sex scene and Terminator between Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor didn't bring you closer to them. It's just like I I don't I'm not I'm not trying to be prude at all in that respect. It's just like in fiction like I I think the implication is usually way more powerful than showing it.

Like, a great example is in, I think it's uncharted two. Chloe and Drake, the first time they have sex, they like just show Chloe, like, crawling on top of her or top of him and then like the camera pans away. And I'm like, that's like great. That tells me as much as I needed to know as if you were showing them like rolling around for five minutes. It's like, well, I never, so I never really in fiction, I kind of get uncomfortable with it sometimes. Where do you come now with massive X-Sex scenes then? Like they're, they're cool. Like the flirtation.

and the figuring out who you can be with the mass effect is way more fun than the awkwardness of like the different characters, man. Welcome to real life, Colin. The chase is always better than the actual act. So to me, like, I don't see that it's penetrated gaming as much as much as it has, you know, film and television, but I'm even seeing it in Americans where I'm like, this is kind of uncomfortable.

Like, why do we, why do I need to see this shit? Like, this doesn't, it doesn't add to the story. And so to me, like, sex is a very powerful. powerful device in fiction, but it doesn't need to, and it's super additive, but it doesn't need to be seen. It's the same thing of like why, it's like, it's identical to the two, unless you're watching like a snuff film or something where like when someone's killed in a movie or shot or stab or wherever, you don't really often see it, right? Like, it's often like the guy puts the gun in the head and the triggers pull like in the soprano's and the guy like falls to the

ground. Like you don't need to see the bullet careening through his head to know what happened and to have that be like a powerful sort of device. So anyway, that's like a kind of a ramp, but I'm glad that it's not been as prominent in games as has been in movie intelligence. I just don't see how it adds anything. Sex is important. Love is important, but seeing it is like kind of uncomfortable. Yeah, I mean, I do think, I agree with you. I think it's contextual and it can add.

I think the TV show example is Game of Thrones. A lot of it is unnecessary, but I do think sometimes it does add to the context of the story and stuff. I think God of War is a good example of it is very, it's graphic and unnecessary, but like that's kind of the point. Like, it's supposed to kind of make you feel. a little uncomfortable just because it's like, it's God's sex. You know what I mean? It is him treating sex as if it's just fucking... The way to get red orbs.

Yeah, exactly. You know, so I think that contextually could make sense. But then there's things like BMX X, X, X, X, X, which was one of my first memories of sex being a real big thing in video games. That was another headline thing. Mortal Kombat in the early 90s was all about the violence. And then BMX, Triple X was like, sex, X, X, X, X, X, and it's like, you couldn't read a video game magazine without. previews of it every single a month and it's so bad when you look at

YouTube videos now it's like how is this a thing yeah I just it's the sex sells but it says a lot more about our society than than about the games or the movie like I think about like you're talking about the Game of Thrones yeah there are some additive sexual components of what I've seen in the first three seasons I haven't watched it since but the Tudors is

a great example too the showtime as the Tudors which is about Henry the 8th where it's like it's almost pornographic and I'm like I don't really understand like this isn't yeah he's having sexual always women. We know that. So just allude to it. It takes a... I feel like it's like almost a fictional cop out when you show it.

As opposed to you, like, you're wasting time. You need to waste five minutes or whatever. So you show it. It's a graphic sex. And I'm like, I'm just sitting here kind of uncomfortable in my fucking chair in the movie there, like, wanting to see some actual story and some conflict or some dialogue or something like that. And so like apart from like Mass Effect and like The Witcher is a great, more recent example. Although it's way more tasteful apparently than it was done in Witcher and Witcher 2. Yeah. I didn't play them.

But I know the cards now. and, you know, I guess that's kind of sexist. Although I don't agree with the charges that Richard Three, everyone's like, Whicher Three is, did you see, did you see the Chinese room tweet? Yeah. About the Chinese room of the makers of everybody's got out of the rapture and, and, uh, dear Esther.

Um, they tweeted out when Witcher 3, or when CD Project Red showed a picture of cyberpunk, 27 of like a cyborg woman in like, you know, lingerie and stockings and so like that. And they're like, this is as sexist as we'd expect, whatever. And a lot of people were saying, like, well, this is based on the source material. But I never found that the inclusion of sex made which or three sexist either.

I don't think there's like very powerful women characters. Exactly. That's the big thing. I mean, you want to level at it. The fact you have to go and talk about, you know, who Yenifer is, who Tris is and what their characters are. It's not that. Yeah, you have sex with them. But that's also if you want to, if you want to develop the relationship that way. So I just say that to separate that and mass effect, I think

on one side and then something like Grand Theft Auto maybe on the other side where there is like more of a sexual and sexist component to it. That's really needless. But in all three cases, I don't think showing it added anything and I'll go back to that uncharted two example I think it's the most power that's the one I remember there was plenty of mass

effect ones that worked I felt I remember like I didn't make the choice personally but I can't remember if it was Leara or her mother I think it was Leara though in one right that you could have sex with or whatever and it was like it panned away and then pan a pastor like blue butt right and this is the one that got like blown out of proportion on Fox News or whatever and then they showed it to the pundit who was arguing against it eventually like

a day later and she was like oh that was totally fine I'm stupid or whatever that one was done well but there are the weird ones. Yeah, we're like, I was think of a, in two or three now they run together where, uh, on, on your ship, you could seduce that like secretary later or whatever and like bring her up and it wasn't like a real relationship, but she got in the shower and then my, my commander shepherd got in there. My femme chef got in there. It's that totally awkward of like, hey, like, you know, them trying to bring these fucking bodies together to make it happen. But then like, I think of, uh, it's been so long now that I don't remember it well, but I remember, at least at the

time, thinking heavy rain did it well with Ethan and Madison. Because that was a full on like Madison's naked Ethan's but it was like they're taking off their clothes or whatever to have sex it wasn't like it wasn't sex in terms of like bump and ugly so but it was sex in terms of like we the build up to it and what was going to happen yeah I think that are you saying that it's a cop out I don't necessarily agree that it's a cop out I do think that it's really difficult to do correctly and I think that it when it you don't hit that it feels like a cop out it is it feels cheap and it's cringe worthy there's a very fine line between it being awesome and being additive and it being cringeworthy and I think that more.

Often than not, you're going to fail that stuff. But it's the equivalent to, like, large-scale battles with stuff. There's a lot of times you see in shows or movies or anything. They just don't have the budget for it. So they'll kind of cop out and do, like, kind of like a, here's a quick version. And that's 99% of the time more effective than them attempting to actually do the actual fight because they couldn't do that right. And when they do it right, it is awesome. And it's thrilling, like, Lord of the Rings, the second one.

Like, there's, that's memorable because it accomplished that. The Hobbit sex. Because of the battle, it's really, it's an accomplishment. And I think that when sex scenes do stand out and like they do add something, it's really special. But more often than not, especially with video games, it's that weird uncanny valley thing where it's like... That's the big thing. It's like, yeah, when you bring together these models and something that has to be so intimate and so like, you know, touching someone and loving someone that like when it's just like, yeah, awkward. You know that they're like, clearly their bodies are like clipping or whatever.

It's just like, why I even bother doing this? Why is this what it's got to be? Yeah, another, I think good example was in Far Cry 3, the Blood Dragon. Did you guys play that? No. Yeah, I played, but I beat it. There's a fucking awesome sex scene. It's all like retro 80s, like 8-bit style cutscenes and stuff.

And stuff. And then I wrote the line down because it's fucking awesome. I want to be blinded with your cyber love. And it's just, it's totally aware of itself. And it like, it doesn't show too much, but it shows more than it needed to. Sure. But it's perfect. It's like that perfect thing of like they nailed it because it is kind of a parody of itself.

Far Cry 3 is another interesting example, too, of sex and games with that woman who's on top of you from first person's perspective. I'm thinking of the ending, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong. Do you remember it well? I don't. I believe it was like it was awkward in quotes, but it was more disturbing.

It was jarring. You know what I mean? It wasn't meant to be like, this is so fucking good. Like it was like, why is that, and then spoilers for the end of Far Cry 3. Like she kills you.

Like she's having sex with you, right? Or like, at least the very end part I'm thinking of. And I think there might have been a part early in the game where she was having sex with you, but it didn't kill you. But it was like, it was meant to be like, this is some kind of weird. Oh, I'm dead.

You know what I mean? Like, it wasn't meant to be like, yeah, fuck. We nailed it. That was awesome. I mean, going way back, Super Mario Bros. There's no sex. There's no anything. That little kiss at the end, though.

That was enough for me. I can imply. I can infer some shit. You really? You think Mario and the Princess Bang? 100%. No way. Yeah.

No way. In Super Mario Bros. One? Yeah. And the rest of them, probably not. She was sick of that shit. She didn't eat that plumber dick. Whoa.

But Super Mario Bros. The pipes were clogged. Jesus to him. Holy God. Hey, there's nothing wrong with sex. That's my problem. People act like there's an issue with the sex itself. I'm not saying there's anything going on with sex.

It was just, I thought maybe he would lay some pipe, but the pipes were clogged. And he took care of that. Uh-huh. He did. I mean, I hope he did.

I don't know. I didn't play that part of the game. They did what Colin's talking about, and they didn't show it. But I see, I don't know they're applying the same way Colin's talking about. I don't know, man.

Did you see that? Did you play Super. are all-stars version. I don't think it is. That has an animated thing of them kissing. And that kiss, it made him blush. Yeah. And if I know Nintendo.

And you do. You think that led to the bumpings. Yeah. And then there was Pokemon golden silver when you can make the Pokemon. Right. Mate, you leave them at the breeding center and then they have the kids. Viva Penaata did sex really well. Animal husbandry, right?

And where they went and then they like, little cute animals came in. That was fun. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you'd have to, if I'm lying, I'm dying. Yeah.

When I leave my Pokemon at the breeding center. I know what's going on. I'm not stupid. Eight-year-old Timmy. He's imagining that Pikachu bumping nasties with jiggly-puff. It's getting all up in that. Laying them eggs. I have to walk a thousand steps to make them hatch.

Who's laying the eggs? They do. Which one? Then you have the poca egg. I don't know. Whoever the female is. Okay. Don't ask stupid questions, Craig.

I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with the breeding. I don't know of other games. I think we talked about most... How do you do it is a more recent one. Oh, sure. That we did. Nean's game.

Nina's game. Yes. We did a let's play. of it. Me and Nick over at YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. I enjoyed that a lot. You see that one? It's when you take, there's two dolls and when your mom leaves you. And you have to like figure out how to do it because you don't know how to do it.

I didn't know how to do it. Still might not know how to do it. I mean, on that level, sidebell is another good example of it. A game based on losing your virginity or whatever. And through, you know, through a relationship you build in the game. But again, it's not. It's not your, sex is part of the story. Not so much like the end goal, right?

Or how it all plays out. it's used the way that wouldn't make it you know that's not exploiting it it's you know about falling in love and it's about exploring this relationship and about that thing but it comes down to losing your virginity to this guy that you've met online that's interesting that's good I thought that was a good way to handle it

I need check that out it definitely sounds like an interesting game right up my alley yeah no you you enjoy it it's definitely interesting very different so to kind of wrap this topic up unless you guys have anything more to add going back to the Mario thing Jokes aside, my first real introduction to the idea and concept of sex and video games together was the benefit rap song Warped to World 6-9, which perfectly ties into this topic. Yes, of course.

Where he made a rap song about trying to beat Mario for the first time back when he was in elementary school. And there's a line where he says that like he remembers when one of the kids says that if you beat the game, you see the princess naked. And that drove him to want to beat the game. It's a really graphic song. It's a nasty rap song But I remember hearing that And it totally changed my entire view

Of the video game Where I'm like Oh my god, that's awesome When you're a little kid You know what boobs are So pixelated boobs sounds awesome I remember that It stuck with me

And it pushed me to beat Super Mario brothers Were you disappointed when you got there And there was just No I was happy again I saw the blushing in my eye cool That's implied Deformed princess You're chasing the entire time

I just look so fucked up in the original Mario It's sloth and a dress Sloth from the goodies in a pink dress. It's pretty bad. It is pretty bad. All right. Topic two. We're going off of the crazy theme of the day. We're going to talk about some real games, cash shit, because I know people out there love it. We're talking about Game of the Year so far.

Oh, yeah. Last year, throughout the year, we did these topics to kind of catch up on some stuff. We're now in April. No, we're in May. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. A lot of games have come out. Right. What jumps to your immediate attention? Uncharted for. Of course. Me too. Right. Me too. I mean, like, it's, I think it has to be far and away in the lead right now. I mean, when we're recording this right, it's the embargo posted this morning, all these five stars, all these tens, all these nines, all these eight point eights. Like, people love this game and it's clear why.

It'll always be the interesting thing of will it make it by the end of the year, right? Because again, uncharted is, was obvious. It was obvious this game's going to be great. it was obvious going to be, but it all works against it by the end of the year that, well, sure, we expected uncharted to be great, but game-wide that came from this indie studio that we didn't know and did this, that and the other and set the world on fire. Didn't hurt the last of us, though, in 2013. Sure.

And don't know, that's the thing. But I mean, like, you know, but there's always that thing with sequels where you have this game that's its fourth edition. I think it'll work to its benefit that it's the last uncharted. This is your last chance to give an uncharted game in the year. I think this has been a good year so far. Well, uncharted, I think comes to my. I think uncharted obviously is the game to beat.

in terms of fun I think Ratchet and Clank is the game to beat and like Ratchet and Clank I think is a way more fun game than and plays better I actually think that Uncharted. But I do think that that's not Gameplay is king typically but I think Uncharted is really one of the examples where I'm like is it really king in this game? I don't think so

I mean they're you know the king of third person shooters even Gears of War is way better vanquish is way better there's a bunch of third person shooters that are better but that's not what we're playing Uncharted for So I was listening to the review yesterday after week Because I had reviewed it with you guys You had beaten and you were very patient with me And waiting for me to beat it

And I beat it yesterday And I was I was Kind of blown away by it The end And it went a different direction Than I thought I was gonna go I didn't expect it And I don't think anyone is expecting

The end of the game Which I think is gonna be fun for a lot of people And I was thinking about it I'm like well this is just one of those examples Where like gameplay just isn't as important as it typically is. It's totally competent and I think above average in its gameplay. But it's just everything else in the game is so fantastic

that it's very similar to the Last of Us in that respect. The Last Must wasn't like an amazing game to play. It was an amazing game to experience and I think that so I think Uncharted is definitely the game to beat and I will be shocked if anything does beat it. Really? Yeah. I mean I'm right there with you guys obviously. It's my number one.

Even Ratchet, I absolutely adore Ratchet and love Ratchet. I had way more fun playing Uncharted and I think that it's not necessarily talking about the gameplay, but adds an experience, all of that does go out the window because it was so much fun and I couldn't stop thinking about it.

Ratchet, when I was playing it, I could step away from it for a bit. Uncharted just had me totally. And even now that it's done, even though I'm not playing it anymore, it's like all I can think about is all I want to talk to everybody about. Yeah. And I wonder how long that'll last. And the good news is, I think it will last through the rest of the year. I think that this is going to be

a game that we keep talking about, going back to forever in the same way we do about the other Unchartis. Ratchit. and clank, I don't think we're going to be talking about much. No, I don't think so either, but it's funny. In this weird way, Ratchet had its hooks in me more because it was not expected that it was going to be as good as it was. And I was just like, I kept

remarking to myself like, wow, this is fun. I'm having fun. Look how much fun I'm having. And Uncharted is a fun experience, but it was an experience. It was like watching a movie. It's like, I almost didn't want to play it sometimes. I'm like, I just wish that I could. You know, Aaron remarks to me like, she's like, these things meaning the cut scenes were like my favorite part. I'm like,

mine too. You know? Like, so like I wish that like, you know, it's fun walking around, looking for treasure and fighting in these gun battles and platforming and all that kind of stuff and grappling and whatever. But I really enjoyed just the story. And then that story's fucking fantastic. So I would say uncharted is the game to beat for sure.

And then I would say ration and clank. And I would give a shout to the division. Division. Interesting. I would. And they're small. I give a shout to layers of fear. My second in my list of game of the year right now would be

uncharted and then it'd be severed. like I love severed right of course such a great package so much funny severed was the same way I feel like of on paper I shouldn't like this game holy shit I'm having such a great time and I'd put it down like I really want to fucking keep playing I wish this plane ride wasn't ending I wish this wasn't

happening I wish I could keep playing yeah for me that experience was fire emblem fates and I was not too excited for it just because I didn't really like the art style of the characters going into it I was in love with awakening so much so when it came I kind of wasn't anticipating it so when it got there

I was kind of like, I'll get it when I get it. Started playing it and I'm like, man, damn, they got me. I'm hooked. And the fact that that game kept giving me more because there's three games to play. Yeah. It did not for me on planes where it's just like, it never ends. There's just more and more and there's DLC coming out. I just think Byron Lomb has this very special gameplay where it's just, and especially

portable, it's great where it's pick up and play. You can do one mission and you're done and you can do another one. And it's like you don't get lost in the same way you do with a bunch of RPG. cheese, you know, because it's more of a, just a tactical game, like, I just think that they do a really good job of condensing it down into bite-sized pieces that are still very substantial. And you always, you feel like you accomplish something. And it keeps me thinking about the next time I'm coming back to play. Now, you were more up on it than us.

Is Firewatch on your list anywhere? Yeah, I think Firewatch is definitely on the list. Yeah. For right now, like in terms of the stimulus ballot. Last year when we ended the year, we did our game of the year discussion, we had 10 games each. Firewatch would definitely be on that. I don't think it's going to leave. Interesting.

And yeah, because 10, 10's a lot. Yeah, no, no, totally. I think Firewatch, it's, it was a great experience. And again, I said this even during the review, I didn't necessarily have fun playing it. I think it's kind of like what you're saying about Uncharted to a much lesser extent, because you still have fun playing uncharted. I didn't really have fun playing the game, but I was so interested by it that I was compelled to keep going. And looking back at it, I look at it, I love.

love the story. And that's subjective, but it is definitely like I enjoyed it. I thought it was great. I thought that as a story-based game, it did exactly what I needed it to, and it didn't overstay it's welcome, which it very well could have. Sure. Just see what else we got going on.

I mean, another, I don't know if it's number three, because this is kind of just like a list or whatever, but I mean, Quantum Break was on there for me. I loved Quantum Bray, great fusion. Like I've said a million times in this show and talked it at length about of playing a game, but watching a movie or television series or whatever you want to do, but a great narrative that I really, really had a fun time with.

Yeah. I want to give a shout out to a couple of games just because I'm sure we're going to get a million comments on them. These aren't our cups of tea, but like this year has been a great year for gaming so far for so many people with the witness, XCOM 2, Star Doe Valley, Star Doe Valley, Star Doe Valley, Star-Doo Valley. Those are all games that we aren't necessarily things we're going to play, but like, it seems like people absolutely adore all of those.

That's Stardoo Valley. Which apparently is coming to a console now. We'll leave it when we fucking play. we can get some trophies. You know what I'm saying over here? But yeah, the witness is a great, great one to put on there too. Yeah, because you're exactly right. Popped in and played it for, like, whatever, a couple hours.

And I was like, not for me, but I see why people love it and it's beautiful. I totally understand why people would want to be part of this, why they'd get into this. And at Sardi Valley, yeah, that's definitely one that has my interest, but not enough for me to sit down and play it on a PC or whatever. Just because I have so many other things to play and screwing with. But that's a big game that once it gets on Vita, I want to see how interested you and not. Sure. But I think I've been on PS4. But if it made it to Vita, that seems like a ride up your alley.

Sure. No, I agree with you 100%. Yeah, it's just not there. So there are more to discuss, I think. So some of these games didn't come out. Well, some of them, some of them didn't. Yeah, that's where it gets tricky. But alienation's clearly going to be on that list.

I haven't spent enough time with it, but I mean, for what I mean, the game's going to be awesome. I mean, that's definitely going to be on my list. End of the Gungeon was really cool on PS4, but I probably know. Yeah, I don't know. I put on my list. Hitman Go definitely would be on my list on Vita. foul play would definitely be on my list. Interesting.

You really like foul play. Yeah, I think Far Cry Primal was really cool. I dumped a bunch of time into it. Saturday morning RPG, which came to Vita and PS4 this year, but is actually an older PC game, I think would definitely be on the list. I'm assuming you'd want to give

even though you haven't touched it yet, Shadow Complex rematch. Yeah, I mean, obviously. Yeah, that's probably going to mean, I don't know that I can resist Shadow Complex remaster. So there are a lot of... No, there's a very, it's a very good game. Even great games, but amazing game of the year games, it's like, what do I give nods to?

Yeah, exactly. I mean, for me, amplitude, I would totally give it. That was on my list last year because technically for, not Patreon. Backers. Kickstarter backers. They got it the week before the year ended in 2015, but it was the first week of 2016. So I'm going to count it and it's definitely going to be on the list. I spent so much time in that game and it is just perfection.

I'll allow it. Yeah, Firewatch. Digimon Story, Cyber Sleuth. Not going to be on my list. It's cool. people really like it. It was a little too grandy for me and it was just way too long.

It's fun. It's cool. It's not what I'm looking for in a game. Unravel. No way. You didn't like Unravel. No. Totally.

It was like, what is going on? Why is this? Super hot. I played through it on PC. It's now on Xbox 1. Xbox 1. I loved it because it's short.

We did that Let's play. I loved it too. But yeah, I need to sit down. I got my Xbox 1 version. I haven't sat down to play it because it's short, isn't it? It's very short.

And it's one of those games. I would definitely put on my list. and again, it's a continued experience. Is there a reason to replay it or anything like that? And I'm not like saying it justifies purchases.

Replaying isn't so much my thing. So like I wouldn't, I would never replay it. But it's great. But I also would never replay Portal and I absolutely love Portal. Sure.

I think that they're similar in the sense that like, it's a great experience through and then you think about it a lot afterwards. Gotcha. Bravely second. Again, I haven't played it.

Have you given the Braily No, people that said I'd love it because it's a job. Class-based job-based but no that would require me to play 3d s and I don't even know what my 3d s is at this point Twilight Princess HD came out cool Poken tournament loved it like being Kevin did the let's play that was fun I play with my room and every once in a while and when we're bored of smash and it's cool it's a fun diversion people seem to really like it and it's getting a lot of pickup in the tournament scene so that's good

Starfax zero no no no no Walking Dead Mishone no yeah yeah cool Is episode three out? Yep. And you beat it? Yep. Man. No, there, it's, it was the inverse where it was like, episode one was fine.

Oh, episode two is, uh, episode three is fine. You know what I mean? Party hard. Yeah. Came out on PC last year. It's now on PS4. That game is awesome. Yeah, that game is really cool.

Yeah, you know, it's a really cool game. Yeah. Um, that's it pretty, that's my list. I'm sure we're going to miss something, but, and I feel like there's definitely a consensus. Uncharted 3 or 4 is miles away. And that'll be, that's what's going to be. That's what's going to be fascinating to see what happens in the fall and what actually makes it out this year and where all that goes. And if persona 5 gets out this year, what does Final Fantasy end up doing?

Is Horizon going to hit this year? Yeah, Persona. I do, it's coming out in the fall in Japan, right? I assume that they're... September 15th in Japan. I love it. I love it. That's so awesome. Talk shit gets shot.

So bold. I really still think that persona in a way is going to eat Final Fantasy's lunch. I don't think that it's going to eat its lunch in terms of sales. It's going to sell very well. I'll bet that it's going to score way higher on Medicare to them. So I think it'll be a lot. a bigger critical hit. The game looks fucking awesome. You watched the trailer.

Like, it's so stylish. So I'm really, really stoked about that. And I'm not a persona fan. I just think that it's so refreshing to see something that's different. You know, that's not a boy band running around in a car and that's not the tails. That's not tails either. Like, I'm a huge tails fan, but it's kind of getting very sammy now. I wish they'd kind of go away for a while now. It's like 15 of them.

It's like, okay, they're great games. I love them, but that last one was left much to be desired. So that was really cool news to see that or whatever. But what I was going to say is my takeaway right now is that we were, we were really talking on PSI-L-you-about, kind of the dearth of PS4 exclusives, like AAA exclusives that are really worthwhile. And in terms of like triple A exclusive, so I love Rose Ogun and all the Housemark stuff. But I mean, in terms of like you go into a store and you spend $60 or $40 because Ratchets a AAA game. BloodBorn was really the only one that was like really, really amazing, I think, to a lot of people.

And I think infamous and kill zone were kind of on a polar below that and everything else, like NAC and the order and everything. Everyone can kind of take or leave. And it's so funny that within a three-week period, or so, less than a month, Ratchet and Uncharted are coming out, which are basically the first and second best, like, triple exclusives on the console. So my takeaway is that PS4's finally getting its games.

I mean, those two games alone justified my PS4 entirely. Not that I didn't have great experiences before, but in terms of exclusive shit, it's done. It's like that is totally worth the investment, because they are amazing. Yeah, it's really cool. It's cool to see. I didn't really expect it. I knew that Uncharted was going to be awesome.

I didn't know Ratchett was going to be as awesome as it was, but both kind of exceeded my expectations in their own way. Uncharted definitely exceeded my expectations. Because I was kind of tempered down a little bit on it. But by the time I beat it, I was like really quite, quite high on it. I wish I could almost do our review again because I think I would be a little less critical of it.

But, good news you can. There's a spoiler cast that we're recording right after this. Live on Monday. So I mean, Uncharted is a must-play game. And I like thinking about the games that are coming after the rest of the year, I really do think it's going to be very hard to beat it.

I mean, you figure in terms of big budget stuff, what would you be looking at you'd be looking at Doom, you'd be looking at gears. Yeah, Doom's not going to do it though. I know. I'm not saying, I don't, don't even wrong. It's not me saying. I hope it does. That'd be awesome. Doom being uncharted, but I just can't imagine that's going to happen. Doom, Gears, Horizon, if it doesn't get pushed. Yeah, Horizon, I don't think it's going to make it.

Yeah, gears, I think, is it going to be a competitor. You know, you have your big guns, like Call of Duty. I mean, you might get a new battlefield, and Titanfall might come out. So there are some games that are coming out. Final Fantasy might be great. I think you're both probably going to be great. What are the chances?

of Damiennig Star Wars game coming out this year. No. No way. So that's a next year game? Do you think we'll hear about it at all? I would say it's even announced next year, maybe not even really next year. You figure next year's going to be Mass Effect.

Another EA space game. And granted, different things, Star Wars is Star Wars, but... Yeah, I don't know that that game's even close to being ready. So not that I know much about it, but... That sucks. I want it. Yeah, so, I mean, I think what we see is what we get this year, except for maybe I think Dead Don't Ride might be a game.

that might come out this year. And I think that that's not announced yet. Maybe you'll get something from Bethes or something. Well, Desonters coming out. No Zalda. So, yeah,

no, yeah. So, I mean, I just, I think there's going to be a great game. Me mirrors edge. People are going to like

DSX is coming out. People, I mean, these are game, home front, I think it's going to be really good. There are games that are people are going to enjoy. But I don't know that

Uncharted 4 is a once, twice, maybe three and a generation kind of game, I think. It's very similar to the last of us on Charter 3 and uncharted 2. So I just What does the game have to do to beat it?

Yeah I mean It would have to be something that comes out of I think independent It would have to be like You're gone homes or whatever Your journeys Like I think that it is going to require

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Sear Madhauer from Patreon. He says, your video game's shameless, all console generations, great slash famous games you've never played, but you know you should have. And now given your involvement in the industry. Oh, what? And the opposite, games you wish you had never played.

Those are two very different things. Let's say it with a shameless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what games haven't you played? I like the console generation thing. Okay. So where do you want to start? I don't want to start on NES because we don't need the stuff before.

that unless you think we do, Colin. I mean, I think there must play games in that period, but I think that there are, well, no, there are, you know, Miss Pac-Man, I think you haven't played Miss Pac-Man, you're a fool. You know, Gallagher, Space Invaders. But they're so old now that I don't know that, you know, you necessarily, you know, dig-dug and Kuber and stuff. I mean, these are foundational games.

Right. They're very important games that you should absolutely play. I mean, you have, you really have some homework to do if you've not played those class of games. But I do agree with you that I think things start on the end. What are we counting by played? Beat, tried, dip your tone. the water? Where are we at? I mean, I think that he's

talking about, he's talking about beat, but I think that if we tried to play it, I think that if we gave it the shot, it counts. Okay, okay, okay. Because we tried. Because I've never, like, you know, if we're starting with NES, that era, of course, then I think the original Legend of Zelda, but I've played it. I've never beaten it. I've never

gone away through it, but I've played it. I've run around the overall map and done stuff. Yeah, I don't think you need to beat that game. If you give it at least the shot to understand sure, exactly. How it plays and stuff. The funny thing is, I don't know that there's anything in that era that I didn't play. Like on the end, yes.

Master System is a different story. I didn't play almost anything on that. Well, there's some games like Alex, like, and again, I've played these games, but I just don't remember them. Like Alex kid and what one miracle role? Yeah, what's a wonder? Is there Wonder Boy?

Is that the same wonder? What are you talking about? I'm talking about it. They were kind of like seminal master system games and Genesis games. Because another one just came out recently. Of Wonderboy? I think it's a wonder boy or something.

I think you're right. There's a whole bunch of Genesis. games I didn't play but that's yeah Genesis is other shit right maybe yeah Masters is I mean again I said this a long time I didn't even know mass system was a thing yeah until later so it's like I miss out on all of that I think you're fine don't worry unless there was ports and stuff on other systems that I might have just played um but in terms of any as being a Sega kid there's tons I mean I miss so much NES stuff and S NES stuff like I those are huge holes in my in my you know repertoire mm-hmm so I mean

that's the thing is like I you know I've played Super Mario obviously but have I beaten Super Mario Brothers? I don't know. Probably not. I can't, I don't know where I would have done that. Oh, man. Sat down and the original Super Mario Bros. Yeah, I mean, beating a game is a different story. If the story is beating a game, then I'd never play and then I never beat.

Even a lot of Nintendo kind of stuff like the Star Fox games, none of them. Oh, really? Yeah, like None of them? No. Not even 64? I think Adventure is the only one I beat. You beat Adventure? Yeah. Like,

like, a lot of Donkey Kong games. Like Donkey Kong Country. one I think I beat and I don't think I beat. No, I don't think I beat. Oh my God. These are like, these are like rentals, you know? Like I wasn't really in the platforms at that point. So it was like real like SNES to me was,

I was talking about this on our, on our AMA recently. Like if you're talking about beating games and I guess that's what he's talking about then like there's a lot of games that I didn't beat. There are a lot of games I did. There are a fucking shit ton of games I beat. I never beat Metroid, but I played it enough. The original Metro?

The first is a fantastic game. It's fucking hard as hell. That game's really hard. Yeah. I just I couldn't handle it. Mega Man. None of them. Yeah, I mean, those are, I mean, to me, on NES, for instance, the must play games are like the three Mario games,

six Mega Man games, three Castlevania games, three Ninja Guidon games, the Dragon Warrior games, all four of those. I never beat Dragon Warrior, never beat Dragon Warrior. Never beat, uh, Ninja Guide, never beat, uh, Castle. See, I'll go as far as they, I don't think I ever played the Ninja Guardian. Oh my God, those games are fucking awesome. Saw it. Obviously, but, like, that was always something you saw to France House before you put in Mario. They're impossibly hard, but, I mean, they're not impossible, they're ridiculous. Yeah, yeah. And then you have ducktail, like a lot of the Capcom and Chippendales, All the first party stuff.

Going all the way to like Star Tropics and stuff like that. But there are even like later games like Yoshi's cookie and shot. I don't even know what the fuck that game really is. That's not a must play. But but fuck that. But that was like so late. I mean I had an S&S for like three years when I didn't know what that. I don't know what that.

It's dumb. This game is. But yeah, I mean, like if we're talking about beating games like there's a shit ton of games I didn't beat. Because like you, you're a kid. Yeah. And like you just want to move on. And I, to me it was like, uh, so for every ocarine of time or Majoris Mass that I obviously beat the shit out of.

I mean, there were games on N-64 I, like, just fucked around with it never beat. I wasn't really even into the N-64 that much. So it was, I was so into role-playing games in the 90s that, that, though, I beat a lot of those kinds of games. Even the really obscure, like, quintet shit and stuff like that on SNES or, and then on PS-1, I mean, I had so many games on the PS-1 that were. And I think if you looked at my catalog games and there are somewhere in my mom's house, I think you'd see like 90. I probably have, like, 50 plus PS-1 games. And you would see 40 of them or RPGs, probably. And then I have, like, the occasional, like, Metal,

you're solid or um 10 shoe or something like that or basito blade but yeah i wish i that's i wish i connected with rpgs earlier i would especially jrpgs or whatever just in the fact of like final fantasy i have no lineage with right just because it never looked interesting when i try seven even people tell me how great it was just never worked for me never clicked for me and i wish i cared more about i cared period about it was a value proposition i understood again i don't agree with that value proposition anymore that i have money but when you're a kid and you are scrounging money together by games and so i think

that it's like well I gravitated towards that because I'm like this game takes for fucking ever to beat. That's awesome. And it is. As long as you like it. Like now there are shit fucking JRPGs. I mean I remember Saga Frontier being like one of the worst games I'd ever played Beyond the Beyond which was a we had a copy of that from the podcast on PS1 is a terrible

fucking game. You know like terrible. I remember by I was I bought that in 1990 God 1997 I was in seventh or eighth grade and it was like the third or fourth PS one game I'd ever bought. I had Final Fantasy 7 Castlevania and I think I guess I had a few more at that point

I probably pro pro the rap I had like Tomb Raid or so with that but I remember buying that game and make this game sucks and that was like one of my one of my first like kind of letdowns where I'm like I bought this game used too so I couldn't return it and I still have it so it doesn't always work out that way you don't always want to spend time but when you have time as a kid and you know I didn't have a job yet I was in seventh or eighth grade year I did was play hockey and go to school

and you had a lot of time so I think I connected with JRP's because they're great but I also think I connected with them because you know you can beat these platformers in five six, seven hours. Some of these platforms were, especially in the 64 and PS1 era, were really short. And those were rentals, you know? Yeah. Yeah, the Final Fantasy thing's

funny to me because there's so, I've played I think all of them, at least a couple hours, but I never, the earliest one I beat was six. I never beat any of the ones before that. I got really far and four, but I never... Four so good. For so good. But I just, I got lost. I stopped playing and then I, you know, got lost. Five is really good, too. Never, never really played too much of five, and then one and two.

were so early that they're different. The port on PS1 was a little weird, but not as bad as Chrono Trigger's port, which was fucking awful. Oh no. Origins. No, Origins was 1 and 2. Anthology, I think, was Chrono Trigger and 6. No, Chrono Trigger and 4, and then 5 and 6 was anthology.

What did we say the other one? Origins anthology and Chronicles, I think was the other one? Chronicles, that's right. Yeah. I think Chronicles was 4 and Chrono Trigger. I think Anthology was 5 and 6, and then Origins was 1 and 2. And Origins came out late. Origins was like out in 2000. It was 2003. time. Yeah.

That was the last PS1 game I bought. So, yeah, to me, it was like, those games were really special. But when I think about actually, like, where my huge blind spot is, it's not even really so much in console gaming. I mean, I have massive blind spots in Genesis. I have massive blind spots in Xbox and Xbox 360 and Xbox 1.

Do you play the Fantasy Star games? Yes. But not all the way through. I never, so the original Fantasy Star is a master system game. And I think I played a ROM of that, like, a long time ago. And I think they ported it to PS3.

maybe on the Genesis collection, but I don't know about that for sure. Two, I played when I was a kid, and then I played it on Wii. And then three and four, four is really considered like the epitome of those games. And they all kind of blur together than me. They're not as memorable as the final fantasy games,

but I did play those games because I knew a kid when I was young who had a Genesis, it was family, had a Genesis and an S&S, and an NES and a master system. And so my exposure to a lot of early Genesis stuff, I remember being like, what is fantasy star? Because we, we,

I didn't have any experience. exposure to even the marketing or the previewing cycle of, I was so up a Nintendo's ass when I was a kid that, like, I didn't really know what the hell that even was. And so I remember playing that and like, you know, Streets of Rage and Golden Axe and all these games. And I'm like, wow, Genesis is pretty cool. And I remember, I think I told the story about how when I was in sixth grade,

I had my friend Jason, who was several years older than me. He was in my neighborhood, and we played hockey together. So he was like a buddy in mine. He was a ninth grade. I think of the time. I traded my S&ES to him for his Genesis. And then my mom got really mad, made me trade it back, and that was a great move because I wanted to play Shinobi or something like that. Oh, God. And I was like, I was so tired of this fucking machine.

Like, I just want, like, it was a, my mom's safe. My mom, my mom unintentionally saved me. Um, but I think with PC is where, like, there are, if you name almost any PC game, I never played it. Like, with the exception, like, I have some, I have a soft spot for some random PC games. Like, we've talked about Chips Challenge

and we've talked about, um, you know, some of those Star Wars games like Ty Fighter and X-Wing. Like, I like those games. Dark Forces. story or whatever fuck it was yeah yodas story and like a lot of star wars related stuff i played um like doom and stuff like that i played but there were there are so many like i have no lineage with half life i have no lineage with starcraft with starcraft or yeah like war monkey island yeah any of the adventure games i don't know poe like i i you know brought games to poe all the time and he brought me full throttle once on pc and we played through that and that was awesome but at the time

i had no idea that like this was a huge a huge genre tim shaffer all this other stuff like no idea a tentacle, no fucking idea. Any of that stuff's happening. But the problem is, the trouble with this kind of question is, is like, yeah, like, I had watched and or played most of these games on console at some point, like, just dawdled with them and messed with them. I don't think you have to

have beaten a game to have experienced it necessarily. But when it comes so, like, with like, you know, Genesis stuff, like, that's a blind spot per se, but it really wasn't. I had a Genesis later on and I went back. I mean, I told you guys how I fit you to found a new copy of Castlevania Bloodlines when I was in high school.

And like, which is 10 years after the game came out, almost in uh in toy's wrestling was like what the fuck like this is i remember being awesome i remember there was like 10 of them and i like i want to buy them all um but with pc like i just don't even know sure like that's the thing where it's like i don't even care that's that's the other thing is like i don't like i want to go back and play there's some games that like i have never experienced that we were talking about the DNA of games and how i think this pacman is so fundamental to play pong is a fundamental game you should play um just understand like really the embryonic state of games understand video ball better.

And, you know, obviously, like, Gallagher and dig dog and all those kinds of games. But Zork is actually one of those games that, like, I actually really want to go play because that is a seminal text adventure that is kind of the foundation for adventure games today. And maybe even in a sense, role-playing games. It's very similar to how, like, these mainframe space war games in the 70s are actually, like, kind of the prototypes for a lot of the games we play to get in some way. It's like D&D. There would be no role-playing games on the console without D&D. It's a similar kind of thing. And that's like a huge blind spot where that game's actually supposed to be really good.

But even when I was in high school and I was taking computer programming and I would do nothing but play games on my computer and then I would just copy someone else's work. But like one kid did all of the work for everyone in that class. It was the funniest thing I'd ever see in my life. And people were just on the internet are like fucking around on their computers. And I remember this kid bought in like police quest and Kings Quest and like some other of these adventure games where you have to like very specifically type in like walk right and open locker and like all like. I remember we used to get game facts and so like that. That was like my first exposure to even those kinds of games at all. But man, there's a lot of PC games that I just don't even know about.

Nonetheless, like, um, like I know, you know, even like, kid cameleon on Genesis. Like I, I remember that game. I don't know if I ever, I think I played it. A comedian was great. That was a, that was a, that's a seminal, like, burned in memory of, I got that for my birthday on Genesis, uh, from my folks. The day, like the morning before I went to school, came back from school to a bunch of kids.

We all played it there. And then we went to leaps and bounds for the birthday party or whatever. Like fucking, that's a day right there. That was just an example to me of a game like where I know it. I think I played it. But at least I'm aware of it. Sure. Like someone could walk up to me and be like, there's a hundred, here's a hundred PC

games out of the best PC games. I'm like, I probably never even heard of half these games. And then I probably didn't play 40 of the other 50 on that list. Act Razor is one I want to think about it. Oh, it's a good one. Mitch always talks about this game sounds awesome and I've never even touched it. Never played it. Mitch was the first person I'd ever met that had the love equivalent to mine of

Accar Razor. Because that's not a game that's a Quinteckech game. It's a weird fucking game too. I don't get it and I don't like it. That game is so, so... Act Razor is like one of the most unique games ever made. To fuse God, like God simulator with side scroller

is like really brilliant. And it's fun. And there's a way to perfect, like get a perfect game in it too if you're really, really patient. That's a must... I think that's a must-play game. Act Razors is awesome. Awesome, awesome. I'm still just shocked that you haven't beat a Star Fox or Donkey Kong Country too.

I would love to do something where it's sitting with specifically with Donkey Kong Country too because that game the design is just so next level it's so good for a platformer and it's not in the the challenge way of Mega Man it's just more in the sense of it really to me defined

the idea of exploration and the way that they use the bananas and stuff to lead you to secrets or to make you think and learn how the game's design works to tell you where to find secrets it it's awesome it reminds me as super Metroid or Super Mario Bros.

I learned something from playing that game. And also, Yoshi's Island, I would love to actually see... I would love to... Super Mario World 2? Yes. Oh, that game sucks.

Dude, no. I hate... I hate that fucking game. I remember... A lot of people do love it with that game. Like, I remember Mark Ryan had a real affinity for that game, too. One of my favorite games of all times.

And I was like, I remember renting it. I think I rented it. I don't think I ever owned it. And I was like, what? I'm so excited. I'm like, why is this so different and weird? I don't want this.

This isn't what I want. Mario World again. Yeah, I was like, I just want Mario World with eight new worlds. That's all I wanted. What you do with me a mode? We waited so long for that shit.

Yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, Star Fox, like I played them. I don't remember ever beating them though. And I think there's probably when I really,

when I really sit down to think about it, there's probably a lot of games like that for everybody. No, for sure. There's always, but I don't know, like I don't,

like consequential games. I just don't know. I was playing a lot of random shit on the N-64. the. Star Fox 64 is the only Star Fox you have to be. Like the rest of them, like the Super Nintendo one, it's fine. If you play it, you get what it

is, and all the rest of them are definitely like, only if you like 64, you'll find things that you kind of like about that. I don't think I ever played a Star Fox game after Adventure. Which was dinosaur planet, right? Dinosaur Planet became adventure. Right, so yeah, that was the last... It was Starfox assault, which was the GameCube won, which was 20%

awesome and 80% garbage. Yeah, I didn't play that one. I didn't play any of the DS or GBA or any of that kind of stuff once. that I just remember I remember buying that just because I used a jar of coins I had saved and went to a coin star and then I bought Star Fox

Adventures. What's up, Crystal? A fucking idiot. Yeah, my biggest blind spot is definitely, I've said this before but the last generation like the PS3 Xbox 360 generation I just didn't play too much.

I'd be a bunch of the games but yeah, like the Arkham games remember my thing. I tried playing Arkham Asylum and it just didn't grab me. You're getting your second chance soon with that HD collection. Yeah, we'll see.

We'll see. We'll be a Bioshock. Yeah. Biowshark, I love Biashog. One. Again, though, never beat it. Like, I got really far. Denny's kind of fucked up.

Probably 80% through, and then I just stopped, walked away, and did other things. Not that it's not amazing. Because that game I would put up there as like, holy shit, this game's incredible. That's on the level. That game's on the level for sure. Yeah. And then the mass effects I never got into.

Well, yeah, that's fascinating because, like, you know, last generation would be my most comprehensive knowledge-based, probably. But I think that's because of where you guys were professional. I think it's because of where I was professionally at that time. Like that was when I was in college. That's when I was like working fucking my ass off. You know, it really was I don't have time to do this because it's either play games or, you know,

make videos and I had to make the videos. Yeah, I mean, I feel the same way about, I've thought about in the past like GameQ, PS2 Xbox era was probably my least comprehensive except for GameCube. For some reason I just went out of my way to like just play GameCube all the time. Except for that one year why I wasn't really playing games. You loved it because it had a handle. But PS2 I was like, I was a PS2 I kind of got over.

pretty quickly. I got it when it launched in October 2000 and I, by 2003 or so I wasn't really even playing it anymore. Dude, that was a lifeblood that used to. But so like that was probably my genet and I had an Xbox but I just played like five games on it over and over again. So it was the zombie. So did everybody. So it was Cotor. It was yeah, Cotor and then Halo

and and the United Park Splinter Cell. Rainbow 6 and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, so I feel that way about, I can sympathize with you because that's when I was in college and it was just, I just had other priorities. But the GameCube I made time for. Good. As you should have. And again, I don't know.

We gotta talk about the GameCube sometime. We do. I just, I just call it, I'd love to. You twisted his arm. I don't really know what I was thinking in that. Like,

I probably should have came around a little bit earlier. GameCube had great games. It was a great library game. But I was like, my Stockholm syndrome was at an all-time high during the GameCube era. Like, you wouldn't even known me then.

You know? Well, I knew you during the Wii era. So I feel like I kind of knew you during the GameCube era. Oh my God. You're going to play this PS3 game tonight? No, man. I'm playing for the Wii port. I'm going to go play college

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because every single question today is sex-based. This is episode 69. Ba-pah, blah, blah. I like how you've given up on the horn because it was so sad. Well, it's just sad today

during the giveaway stream, too. The horn just wasn't doing what you need to. You know what, Greg? The horn's a little sad, isn't it? Whomp, womp. I can do the sad one. Don't worry, Colin.

I just give 20 minutes to set it up. How much did that half cost? Free. It was a free app. Now do the Uncle Nick one. That sounds just like Kevin. Oh, this does, it's weirdly sounds like Kevin. It's called Uncle Nick.

That's weird. That's fucking bizarre. I don't like that. All right. Let's get back. Back to the questions. Again, remember, ladies and gentlemen, this is episode 69. Sixty-scent.

It's been a long time coming. But here it is. Amy 66 says, What do you think gets our beloved game characters hot and in the mood? For example, in later games, Mario 2 and Mario 3D World, we know Princess Peach can hold her own against Bowser. So maybe the whole game is actually Mario's own sexual fantasy,

and he just finds the whole damselaum distress thing a turn on. I've thought about that before. Jesus Christ, Tim. And I think it's good. I think, you know, it's motivations and its goals and whatever gets you going, really. She made a Mario 2 reference? Yeah. Wart is the bad guy Mario 2, not Bowser.

Let's get things straight. Well, no, but don't she was saying that like, you know, she can hold her own. Let's get things straight. Well, it was also a dream. Mario's fucked up dream. Let's get things straight. because he just wanted her to be in distress.

I just say that because I love more, way more than Bowser, and he's criminally underused. I can't believe he's not in melee or not smashers. It is upset. It's totally ridiculous. I mean, I don't know if it's totally ridiculous. It's totally, but ridiculous.

Of all the injustice is gaming, this is the biggest. We have like 17 firearm on characters. I think we could get word in there. We do. What do you want to do? Just walk back and forth. Just freaking, that's it.

It would be cool if he had on stage with the horns, like the horns and like the vegetables and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. I think it's pretty easy to do. It was a little crown on and it's... I'm upset that Mario 2 never got like a proper spiritual successor. It kind of did in Super Princess Peach on the DS. Oh yeah, I never played that game.

But that was a super toned down version. You're playing with our emotions. That was really weird. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, don't people feel like that game was really sexist. It was extremely sexist. So it was the kind of the gameplay style of Super Mario 2. You're picking up the tournament, turnups and all that stuff.

And it's like heart-based. But the gimmick of it, was that you, to get past certain levels and shit, you need to have different emotions. So she'd get angry or she would get sad or she would be excited or happy or whatever. And it's like, it was like, she's a woman, so she has emotions.

And it's like, all right, that's, no, what's the problem? Don't, don't do that. No, I think, I don't know. It's an interesting question. I think like, you know, Drake obviously gets off on murdering people and getting away with it.

That's 100% correct. She totally gets off. I think it is. He ain't fucking anybody. That's always the thing. He could, him and Elena, him and Chloe, they could be on these ventures having the sex after they kill a bunch of people.

They don't. The one reference we were talking about earlier, right? Chloe and him getting it on. That was in the beginning on Charter 2. That was her trying to sell him on this proposition that Flynn was giving them. I'm assuming he's banging it out, Greg. If I was Drake, I'd make that happen.

I know you would. That's why you're not Drake. Drake could do it better than I ever could. I know that for damn sure. Well, that's for sure, yeah. Dr. Laine, Dr. Dr. Wiley get off on watching their robots kill each other.

Sure. For sure. That's good. You know what? I'm actually going to skip ahead because that is a great segue there where I'm going to scroll down to find this thing. Hold on. I'm going to stare at the camera while you do it.

Keep staring. Keep staring. Give them the sexy stare. Oh, here we go. Spara 57 says, what are some of the featured bosses of the upcoming game, Mega Man 69? And what powers does Mega Man get from them? Colin, I feel like this is right up your... Mega Man.

Boner Man and Boner Jam Man, I think are two different. two different. They're brothers. I don't know. What do you think? I mean, I feel like Dildo is my first girl. Dildo man.

Dildo man. Why are you, Kevin, you're shaking your head at me. That's... Lube man. Fuck, that is good.

Oh shit. That is good. Sliding from Lube, man. Boner Man and Boner Jam, man. Ejaculation man. Goatty, man. Goatsey, man. Yeah.

Damn. You know what his final attack is. Yeah. What is it? He opens it up. He just opens it up. Sucks a man. Opens it up.

Sucks him in. Butthole man. Yeah. Got have a butthole man. You gotta have a butthole man. You're making solid points, Colin. Yeah. I like it.

Okay. I like Loop Man, though. That was well thought out. Found man. He's a hard punch. You never go hard punch. Kink man could be good. Kink?

Yeah, and then you have like all the... Yeah, all the whips and chains and stuff. Yeah. BDSM man, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Would you be into this call? Would you play Mega Man? Yeah.

Get into a food A on the phone. Get a Kickstarter going. Hey Spider-Man Hey Spider-Man. If there was a video game where you play as the producer slash seducer, Nick Scarpino himself,

what kind of game would it be? Catherine, like. Sure, sure, that would make sense. Bad dreams about all the things he's doing wrong.

But rather than moving the blocks, you'd be climbing, because he's part of the climbing community, you'd be climbing stuff, but it's one of those where the meat, it wouldn't even be, you had to get up there without hurting your back. It's like there's all these weird things to do.

And like, if you go, you start to see like, you know, his arm's going to get all, bad. Shoulders going to give out or whatever to do some yoga before you go up there. Or talk about doing some yoga before you go up there.

There's that like instead of hanging out at the bar and Catherine, they're hanging out of Starbucks of course. That's great. You've really nailed it because it has all the fucked up Nickisms and it has the climbing. That was good. There's also there's also the constant. So okay here's what it is. You have to climb the wall as fast

as possible in the dream of course. We have to do without hurting yourself, right, or you'll fall down and do it. But you also, it's time. It's time and it's up until you have to go to the bathroom. Like there's a meter counting down to you having to use the restroom because it's always, that's Nick's life. Yeah, it's the race against the restroom. How many times are you going to go to the bathroom

during some war tonight? Oh, man. Daniel Freitas doesn't even have a question. He was one of those people that were speaking of earlier. He says, all I want from episode 69 is just the three of them sitting there naked making nothing but 69 jokes. Make it happen.

I still say it would have been the great of you and you know, Tim and Greg just 69 to each other around on this table. I'm just saying, all options are on the table. it's true. It's awkward that your dad's calling you right now. Hey dad, just talking about 69 other dudes on the table. I love my shirt off. I love that this is what I get to do. Just sit with you guys and talk about bullshit video games sex just because it's episode 69. Oh man, Javier Bonnet 1027 says,

Greetings, gentlemen. Are there any moments in video games that have gotten you in the mood? Have you ever been turned on by certain characters in games? My example is Chloe from the Uncharted franchise. You guys are awesome and I love you very much. I love you. I don't know that I necessarily have ever been like, oh man, I'm watching this and now I'm in the mood. That's happened with movies

for sure. TV shows, for sure. I don't think a game's ever gotten me in the mood. Have I been attracted to game characters? Yeah, that's kind of what they're made for. Right? Like, I mean, at times, like when they're being sexualized in that way, it is to evoke a reaction that reactions from in my pants.

Well, okay. I don't think a game's ever gotten me hard. I want that call. No, no, no, definitely not. I think it set me on the path to being hard. Again, I go back to that massive, the mass effect thing. What? That's a bridge too far for the 69ing episode we're talking about. Goatsy man. But back to that mass effect reference with the assistant or whatever in the shower.

Like that was hot. Do you remember the scene? Because it was like she went, I forgot what the conversation was, but then it was like, she went into the shower and then like Shepard just sits in a chair. Like watch us from a while she's being getting naked and showering and then you, then Shepard just goes in the shower. I'm like, damn, that's a hot fucking scene. And of course, I was in love with Madison Page and heavy rain.

Of course, I'm in love currently with Elena Fisher. That does make sense. Yeah. That does make sense. But they don't just give me rock, hard, rage, and boners every time I see them. I mean, I never, so like I said, never got a boner from a game. But when I was a little kid, I mean, I definitely, I was tantalized by the idea of sexuality. So I remember Candy Kong from Donkey Kong country, she was created exactly for this reason.

When you look at her, it's like, there's these big old bazookas hanging out and shit. You're like Donkey Kong sitting there Like with his bananas and stuff And it's like You mean your dick That's what it is It's a metaphor for your dick The 90s were a different time

They were a different time They were extreme Remember we're talking Seven year old little Timmy here Not knowing what the fuck's going on And I'm seeing this monkey And I'm just like What are those pixelated things on her chest

Then I learned Greg They were boobs Right A year later Titanic comes out in theaters Oh my God Titanic The first time I saw boobs I realized I've been missing out I love these things

What a gold mine Titanic was. You're like PG-13 and then just tits. Giant fucking titty. Because you're in a movie theater and it's just a nipple. You're like, oh my God. It's Kate Wiesland woman's going far.

All you dumb friends coming back to see it. Speaking of all this. Good fictional story, Titanic. Johnny Epp says, does the games industry need to tone down its R-rated content with women in a sexual nature? I think so entirely. I think that they need to be way more decisive about what they're doing and there needs

be a bit more quality in all of the stuff. Having said that, I don't think there's anything wrong with sexuality. And I think that people need to be okay with understanding that objectification isn't a bad thing on its own. It's that combined with intent that creates bad situations. And I do feel like when you see these images of the orc males and they have all this armor and an orc female and it's a green girl in a bikini or a blue girl on a bikini and that's the only difference. It's like, yeah, I definitely think that we need to kind of make some steps towards that. That's the thing. When he says, do you want to see it toned down?

My answer would be no. I don't want to see people, I don't want to have lynch mobs going out there, right, and the PC police saying, don't do this, don't do this. I'd rather see the scale balance, and there be more honest portrayals of females and, you know, strong female characters and all this

different stuff. You're Laura Crofts, right, right, from Rise of the Jim Raider. I'd read, or Elaine Fisher, or Nadine right now in Uncharted 4, right? I'd rather see that start coming up and not worry so much about tearing something else down, but what we always talk about, let the market decide, right? That no, no, we want these characters. These are the character we're going to celebrate.

If you want to make these juvenile, you know, caricatures of women, whatever, more power to you, but we won't buy those games. We won't support those games. We're not going to do it, and that'll balance it off that way. Rather than it be that we have to lead this charge to tone it down, I'd rather lead a charge to rally around the games that do it right. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, going off that, Tumrie is a perfect example of being a franchise that just completely exemplified this in the 90s of just that game was sexuality.

Like you didn't need to, if you didn't play that game, you still had an idea of what Tomb Raider was and that was nude codes, you know? Sure, but it was more than that. I'm not going to be wrong. I'm talking about to the mainstream user, like to my mom. My mom thought Tomb Raider was the game with a nude code and didn't even have it. Now, I see here, the thing, Tomb Raiders are really interesting one and I'm with you. Because that, again, like I got Tomb Raider 2.

So Tomb Raider 1, I'm on my PC that barely ran or whatever. but I do remember nude codes and all the stuff and oh my God look at her chest but keep in mind this is coming hot off the heels of when I went and hosted that PAC panel right about 20 years of Laura Croft like she was the I forget what year was or whatever

but on the Times list of most influential people who didn't exist like in the top 10 and da da da da da da it wasn't that I think now it's so easy to look back and be like oh my God look at how they portrayed her chest or this out of the other that's it's a da da da the nude codes but it was it was empowerment she was a strong

female character that was scantily clad or whatever and had unrealistic proportions. But a strong female character who female gamers or just females did connect with and did see something in and did get inspired by. I think it's really easy to throw the baby out of the bathroom and be like, well, she was so her short shorts or skippy top or huge tits that you are like, she was clearly, it didn't matter when I think really for all that said, she did more good than bad. I think she inspired more than she tore things down. Yeah, I mean, I do think that that needed to happen in order to get where we're at now.

You look at these, the modern Tomb Raiders, and it's totally the right way to handle the whole thing. I do think that they're, like, women empowerment and sexuality are not like on the same scale where it's like, if it's sexual, they're not empowered because that's total bullshit. Like, women can have sex whatever the fuck they want, you know what I mean? On the other side of that, though, I think that the Tomb Raider thing, it wasn't so much about the gameplay, it wasn't so much about even the character. It was about every single magazine, even if it was. wasn't nude codes, it was cosplay of like the paid cosplay, the like Sony presented cosplay

of these just ridiculous women with guns in their mouths. You know what I mean? Like, like, like, looking the pistols and shit. And like, it was overly sexualized in a, that, that was all that it was way. I think that Laura Croft in the 90s did represent that

and I think the movie, look at the movies. You know, like that was like... What about them? They're bad. They're all bad. Joe Lee's in them. Yeah. You're saying it was, but it was, it was, an excuse to sexualizer? I definitely, I think that they were, especially compared to nowadays with how things are. I think that it's, you can't compare nowadays. But I mean, that's, that's what

I'm doing. I'm just saying that like, the Tomb Raider now compared to then, it's like, I think that now's the right way to handle it. Well, sure, but I mean, that's just that's the, that's everything aging up and, you know, the benefit of hindsight and growing up or whatever. There's this great skit I was watching the internet last night. Sadly, I can't remember what YouTube channel I was on, but it was, uh, no, I wish. This is a really funny idea. We should have done it. Uh, it was, uh, it was, the sandlot in 2016. Oh my God. And it was the part where like, you know,

the jocks roll up and the sandlock kids come out and they also go back and forth, the insulting. And then like it goes, you play baseball like a girl. And everyone's like, whoa, whoa. Like, why they got to make it about gender? Not enough. And they went back and forth like putting him down. Yeah, yeah, it was really, really good. I love that.

Jay Dolar says, sexiest eight or 16 bit character of all time. I feel like the easy answer is Samis. I was going to say, right? I wasn't into it. She looked weird. She looked really weird. Because the suit or when she was out of the suit for the flash?

When she was out of the suit. Okay. It was like, I'm not into that. That's not my company. I'm not into that. No, that weird little pink bathing suit.

Not my color. It wasn't flattering on her. You like pink? I do, but not on that portrayal of Samus. Okay. For sure. Okay.

Samis later, like on zero. In zero mission. Yeah. Then they nailed it. They got somewhere good. I think fighting games kind of do it right. that generation of fighting games

like when you're talking about the like my from final fight or not final fight from um fatal fury you know I'm talking about she was good nailed it there

then street fighter Chun Lee Cammy whatever and he's overly sexualized absolutely but I mean if you're talking about overly sexualized 16 bit characters sure I think fighting is where he at Felicia from Darkstalkers

um Sonya Blade Mortal Kombat. It's really the fighting games. Because the fighting games had diverse casts. Splinter. Ninja Turtles. Pretty hot. Magnet Man. See, that's the thing.

I don't know. Just being a young kid, I guess I never... You know what I mean? Like, I wasn't connecting on that level with my games. It would have been like, who's the girl in Double Dragon? Like, she was a girl. Okay. Yeah. So the Cruising USA bikini girls. Oh, cruising USA bikini girls. I do remember. Shout out to the cruising USA bikini girls. If someone can find them on Twitter, that'd be great. Oh my God.

I put him like that, actually. You set this up. This is a catch-22. Just taking a photo of my dog. You can go follow Tim at. I'm going to send it to Kevin so you can put it up. Because this is a 69-worthy picture. It's a fucking special occasion.

We're having some fun. We're usually such bitch monkeys. This is usually a very tightly show. Totally. Absolutely. We never talk about sex jokes. let's see we're coming to the end here

we're gonna end the 69 we're gonna end the 69 episode with the bang I actually think this is a really interesting question that I want to know your answers to P-P is poet says has the lore of a romantic encounter in a game ever completely sidetracked your play-through oh yeah of course

Mass Effect every time becomes like who am I gonna bang you said this I don't know if I like it da-da-da-da-da what who am I going to choose and then that's becomes Massarch 2, I love so goddamn much. But it became so tough of like, fuck,

am I gonna fuck Garris, Jacob or Miranda, right? And then like Jack popped up at one point. Like, oh, fuck, Jack's kind of cool too. What do I do? What am I going to do with all this? And then you slowly... Miranda, man.

You know, you had to make a choice. I ended up with Garris. Miranda's hot. Miranda's hot. And I like how they make... And that's another great example of like a character that's supremely sexualized, right? And then they work it into the story.

I'm like, no, I'm built from the ground up in my genetics to be to look like this. That way I can, you know, be an even better or whatever. Yeah, for me, it's an excuse then to put the fucking camera angle down by her ass the entire time, but whatever. Final Fantasy 10, sorry. Final Fantasy 10, I mean, it was very limited in its options for this,

but there was conversations that could guide you towards Lulu, Yuna, or Riku. And I was all about that RICO. Persona's another good one too. Where it's like, all right, cool, we got to stop the fucking things happen in the TV world, but fuck who of these girls do I like? What am I going to do? She is such a Tom, Tom, Tomboy.

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