Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - The Game Awards 2017 Predictions - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 146

Episode Date: November 27, 2017

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As always, I'm Tim Geddes. Join by one of the coolest dudes of video games, Greg Miller. 50 seconds until I've crafted this sofa. Crafted a bird man can come over. In the hit Animal Crossing. Pocket Pals.

Nope. Pocket camp. Pocket camp. Pocket camp. Pocket pals. Now, you haven't picked it up yet. I have not. You're a monster.

Mm-hmm. What are you going to do all Thanksgiving whenever he's playing this? G is going to be playing it. Your mom's been playing. Cool. He's not going to be playing it. Although Gia might like this shit. I don't know.

I don't say shit in a bad way. This shit. This stuff. It's trash. I'm not saying it's trash. Kevin's saying it's trash. Greg, how are you doing?

I'm good. How are you, Tim? I'm pretty tired. Tired? Pretty tired. Why? It's been a two-day work week. Yeah, but it felt intense.

I don't know why. I guess there's been a lot of meetings, a lot of calls, a lot of thinking that I have to do. Sure. I'm not a fan of thinking. No, who is?

Nobody wants that. He's want to turn it off and wait for Birdman to come over. Birdman. Here goes four, three, two,

what's you gonna do? One, that's done. And now look, there I am. No glasses. No glasses. I'm working on getting glasses.

Working on my glasses. This is the kind of funny games cast each and every week we get together. Talk about video games. all things we love about them. What's going on? This episode we're going to be talking about the game awards,

our predictions and what we think is going to happen, who we think is going to win. Will the Shick Hydroman be there? All those things. He will not. We have confirmation. Really? Who confirmed?

He will not be there. Yeah. God bless Jeff Keely. Don't get your hopes up, people. This is the kind of any games cast. Each and every week, we do that stuff. You can get it on YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. But of course, that would be late.

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Anywhere you want. I use pocket casts. Do you? I do. How's that working out for you? I like it a lot. Why not just use Apple Podcasts? Because that's a trash app. Have you seen the update? Have you used the update? No, I haven't. I just listened when I listen to stuff. It's really bad now. I'm bad at both podcasts and I would like organizational, right? Because it'll just be like I'm out somewhere and I want to listen to something. I put it on or in the house now. I just go, Alexa. Play death sex and money. No, you screwed up. No, because somebody is listening this in their house. We just screwed it up for them. Do it again. Alexa. Order tampons. Wow. We didn't know. Huh? Is Alexa that smart? Oh yeah. She can do that. Yeah. She'll go,

I searched tampons on Amazon and I found da da da da da da and then you have to sell your code. Hmm. Hmm. My favorite thing. I've said this million times. Sure. Do you ask Alexa, who's Tim Getty's? Yeah. You're the only one of kind of funny that it knows. I'm the only one. It says co-founder. It's kind of funny. I'm like, hell yeah. Yeah. Very freaking cool. What do you been playing, Greg? Well, today, Animal Crossing, Pocket. camp. If you're listening later, not watching live or so you're listening any other time, uh, the idea is that was Tuesday. We're taking days off for Thanksgiving. And Animal Crossing came to mobile devices a day early. It was supposed to come on on Wednesday. And I here's the

Thanksgiving came early this year. I know, right? I didn't want to get my hopes up. I was thinking it might happen that it would post early. And it did. I kind of willed this into existence. So I'm pretty stoked about. So I've been playing all morning, uh, run, not all morning. I mean, I've been working, but I played on the way to work today. I'm playing in between. Joey we know well has been playing nonstop. And you're liking it. Yeah. Is there any cons?

I mean, it's a stupid time wasting game. I don't mean it compared to Animal Crossing in the past that you've played. Hmm, that's a good question. That's a big question, though. That's the problem. Is it so early? Yeah, I don't feel. I mean,

I didn't hit with any micro transactions that you feel are egregious. No. There was a thing at the top for me of opening the quarry. To open the quarry, I need to either help of five friends or I could spend 20 leaf tickets, I think it was. But as Joey pointed out, when she was just in here a second ago. She's level seven now. She said, I think she said she had 150 leaf tickets. She's popping them leaf tickets. So it's like they're giving them to you and it's,

I did. Did I buy some leaf tickets already? Yeah, I did. You did. I did. I did. I did. I want to get a, you fucking crazy little raccoon. I put it. I'm the Tom nook of this story. I put out the feelers for, you know, because I got friends now. I do. I got Amarice on here. I got Dan Reichert. Yeah. I got Gary Witta. And a couple of them, I only have like five friends. And like, they didn't check their things yet to help me out in the court. I was like, oh, I want the quarry now. And so I went to the microtransaction button. And it's like, oh, that's pretty reasonable.

Went to the micro transaction button. Because, I mean, well, it's just there at the top. I mean, you know, what? Again, I'm already, have I already, hey, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. Have I already enjoyed this? Is it egregious? Have I? It is not.

It is not. It is not. I spent $4 and got 120 tickets. Okay. All right. Not for 99 cents. You get 40 tickets. For 2099, gets a 680 tickets.

Now, again, as Joey says, I'm going to be getting these guys later. but as I've already pointed out, Joey apparently doesn't have a job. You can just sit here and play all day. Whereas somebody like me who wants to get into the Corey as fast as fucking possible, I wanted to get in there.

And guess what I did is money? I got two silver nuggets and three gold nuggets when I got in there. Damn, really? Yeah, so I'm doing pretty well. I got, you know, my bells are looking pretty shape.

Hey, I'm gonna go right now over to my mailbox and click my rewards there. Yeah, I got 10 leaf tickets for some other ideas. I don't know, a thousand bells. Great. I'm my level up bonus. You know who else would be proud of you?

Who's that? Patreon producer Tom Bach. I know you're watching Tom. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Tom. I appreciate you very much.

I love that someone on the Reddit was like, what are they going to get Tom Bach on Gamescast? You totally should. Tom Bach has bed on Gamescast. I put it out there. I put the video out there. Let him know. So, yeah,

you should go check that out. He was fantastic on it. So, I mean, it's definitely, I don't even want to say it's a simpler version of Animal Crossing. I feel like it's animal crossing on the phone. It's so far so good. Do you,

is it optimized for the iPhone X? It's running awesome. That's fantastic. Load times are super quick. you like in the vertical orientation of it? I miss it being a wide screen. I'm a widescreen guy. You know what I mean?

But what I do appreciate is how easy this is and how. Well, that's what I'm saying is I think the best mobile games are when they are designed for being vertical one-handed use. Sure. Because when you get the user interface just right, something real, real nice about it. I'm from, again, first impressions of it. I'm not against it.

What I actually like and, you know, I really didn't have time to think about it. So you brought this question up right now and I'm doing it on the fly. is that the fact that levels are actually deep rather than wide, which is an actually interesting point of because it's actually built for this in the way it's supposed to be. But no, it runs real. Oh, no. It's asking me if I want to go somewhere.

I don't want to go anywhere. I'm running around my campsite right now, which is a garbage pot right now. You know what I mean? Right now it's a hodgepodge of, yeah, I want Goldie, the dog to come over.

She wants a hammock or whatever. Fucking just throw a hammock down. Just come over here. Yeah. Oh, I feel. Because I want to get in there and craft different stuff. I don't, you know, but I just to hit this. It's kind of scary to me, though.

Have you ever been a hammock? Have you not been? Every time I always feel a little. You flip around, you flip out of it? I haven't actually done it, but I feel like I would. So you, you just hate hammocks for no reason. I'm just saying, I don't hate them. I'm scared.

My biggest problem so far, Tim, is that I can't craft clothes yet. And my clothes look dorky's all. You're not rocking a fit? A fit? You're not fitted? No, no, no, I'm not fit. Headsidoat. I'm still in the MVP starter shirt here and I don't have my glasses.

And like, when I go up here, if I don't have glasses is a crime. When I go to the marketplace, right? They just aren't selling. They have a hat. No, I don't need that. They aren't selling glasses yet. Joey bought some again.

Apparently if I'm just on here nonstop, they'll eventually sell what I need. But I go over here. I can get a little star for my hair, a pink hat or... It seems like some Andy Cortez shit. I can see him click clacking away. Sure.

I mean, you're going to see a lot of people click clacking away on this. I'm surprised you don't have an affinity for Animal Crossing being the big Nintendo fan boy you are. I mean, that's the thing. I saw someone talking shit about me

a couple days ago. It's like, oh man, for how much of a Nintendo fanboy is he doesn't really like a lot of Nintendo franchises. That's my thing. I have the franchises I like. And then there's the other ones that I'm like,

hmm. It's almost as if fanboyism isn't a real thing. Somebody, someone tweeted to me today after I was mourning the loss of Marvel Heroes. I thought you were DC fan. It's like, it's almost that one label doesn't apply to everything. Yeah.

I mean, to be fair, uh, in the history of the Nintendo franchise is the ones that I, I haven't ever really given a chance. Once I do, I fall in love. Fireman being an example,

uh, never played them. And then once I did, I was like, oh my God, this was fire. was one of my favorite Nintendo franchises now. So I don't know.

Maybe I would get into it, but I just, there's something about the whole living a life and a game thing that I just don't see the appeal to. But you're not really living a life. What you're doing is, it's a collectathon where you turn the collections into people and you get little rewards.

Because that's what it is. It's like this motherfucker, this eagle man wants a beetle. All right, well, it just so happens. I've been collecting Beatles nonstop today. Here you go. Hearing about Animal Crossing,

it sounds like all of my least favorite parts of a lot of other games. And I just like, not for me. I totally get that. Like there's a lot of elements of Pokemon that I don't really enjoy. And they're the more mundane shit. Like once I think it was like Ruby and Sapphire came out and they added all the like, dress your Pokemon up and put them in beauty pageants.

And I'm like, nah. Yeah. I'm cool. It's just a different kind of game. Yeah. Is the thing. And I like that about it. And like I've talked about in the lead up to this game, but I don't know if we'd

really done much on Gamescast about it. It's just the fact that this is so. And it's early, but I mean, the idea. is the perfect fit for Animal Crossing. Of, yeah, I have 10, 15. I'm going to go around, see what everybody wants, give it to my have, go ahead. Oh, it's going to take two hours for these pairs to grow back.

Great, I'm not going to be here. I'm not like Jeremy Noel. I'm not sitting there obsessed on it all the time. Yeah. We'll see what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm having a good time. It runs well.

It seems like it's fun. It was easy to get in contact with people. I don't know how much it'll, you know, I'll ever go back to people's houses. That's the big thing of like, you know, like, you know, like, I don't know when I'll go back to Gary Wood his little campsite. See what's up. See what's up. But you do get to customize your van.

I fucked it up. Don't fuck it up when you start. Okay. Because like beforehand, it's like, do you, you know, pick this and then set the color. And like for the character, when you click to continue like between your hairstyle and eyes, it would switch tabs for you. And so I was like, oh, it'll do that for the car too. And I hit it and it didn't and it locked in my car.

So I have a basic ass bitch car. I have a stupid paint job on it. But now it's going to cost me like $5,000 to redo it. So now I have those $5,000. Exactly. I got to look good. I got to know. But it's right now, you know, we're still floating around.

We're still seeing what it's all about. Yeah, it's Animal Crossing Sims and Star Dew Valley, things like that. It's just like, harvest moon. I was always like, I don't know. And maybe those games aren't anything alike. I feel, just an idiot. No, no, no. They're all like.

As somebody who's played most of those for varying amounts of time. Animal Crossing, to me, is the lightest responsibility or workload on all the ones you just said, right? And I know that already sounds bad. But in terms of the fact that Animal Crossing is just like, cool. What do you want to do? You want to grow fruit? You want to do this?

That thing there. Do you want to go befriend this eagle man? What do you? Granted, it's different in this game a little bit. But it is. Okay. Where are we going with this?

Harvest Moon was like, fuck, I'm going to keep these crops going. Oh, I got to get married. I got to do this. And Animal Cross is literally just like, hey, this person will talk to you when you come back.

It was always fun to come back. It's been 475 days since I saw you. Like, oh, yeah. I haven't turned on the game. My apologies. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited to see how this one evolves and goes and how if next week on Gamescast,

am I going to still be playing this and what progress I've made? To the inevitable switch version and all that. You don't think? No. I don't think so. We'll see. That sounds like Nintendo, bro. I think that sounds like a new Nintendo.

New Nintendo, you think is going to tie that in there? Yeah, I do. Definitely. Okay. Somehow. I don't know about that. I mean, it was very, I got signed into my Nintendo ID. Let me tell you.

Yeah. That was a pain in the ass today in the toilet. Oh, I'm sure. Totally sure. Because I'm there and I forgot that I turned two factor authentication on, which is good. Great, good thing to have. But then I have the new phone. I guess I never backed up whatever. When I did the apps and it must have no purchase that you never made or some shit like that. I never brought over the Google authenticated to this phone. So when I finally guessed my

fucking password, you know, after like 14 tries and it's doing the thing where I hate the fucking, all right, guess your password. And if it's your wrong, okay. It's fast enough process. This is, I guess the password, submit. All right. find all the fucking street signs in this Google. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Jesus. Does that one count?

I'm not really sure. Exactly. Does the sign post in the street sign count? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I selected, you know, select all the cars. I selected,

there's a tire there that's connected to a car. Does that count? Yeah. It's on the bottom frame. So then to go through all those and find out out wrong password, wrong password, then get it. And then this is just,

geez. I'm just, I'm hoping. And again, this is a big hope. Like, like I remember last year. It was exactly a year ago.

Uh, maybe a year and a week. go. Yeah. We got the Nintendo Switch trailer for the first time. Yeah. We introduced the name, introduced to what it was. So the Mario people playing on the rooftops at parties. Yeah. Parties. All this stuff, right. And it was so fucking exciting. We were so like, oh my God, this is going to change everything. Then they announced January stream where it's like, we're going to unveil everything. January, like 8th, I think it was. And it was like, oh, man, let's go. And I was like running wild in my mind of what Nintendo was going to do.

Yeah. And then they gave one of the worst presentations of all time. And then totally turned around for the rest of the year. So now I'm right back in that same feeling. I'm like, well, January, they must be direct. And they must blow shit out of the water. So I'm, I setting myself up for failure? Absolutely. Of course, yeah.

But am I expecting maybe some type of direct that gives information about Nintendo's online services, including some type of Netflix style streaming for virtual console games? Yeah, I am. I am, Greg. Balsy. And does that also include if they were to mention Animal Crossing, which I think it might be a little too early.

Too early. But if they did introduce something so that this would be compatible with that via some type of Nintendo internet service? I don't know, man. I don't think it's too crazy. It's very clear when you're, like when I, so I started the game not being logged in because I still, I had to get to a computer. Because believe it or not, for the first time ever, I've saved on a sticky note,

my Nintendo backup codes and I needed those motherfuckers to get into this thing. I was like, you know, you can play without it, but like it'll sync your save and let you play on other devices. So it's all connected to my Nintendo ID, which my switch is connected to. So there you go. Theoretically, I guess, yeah, it's going to notice that I have a whole bunch of fucking tickets and cool shit on my camp. website and bringing over. Will I have glasses by then? I don't know. Joey, if you see

glasses in the marketplace, come tell me. If you see glasses in the marketplace, come tell me. Fucking Joey. Kevin. Can you play the video wall, please? Thank you. Thank you. I thought you had like, I thought I was going to get surprised at the clip. Oh, also. Wow. Wow. The bar isn't even on Kev. I understand we're knocking off for a vacation here in a second, but you checked out early. I told you not. Coogick just got a new phone. I told you not to let him get this and clearly it's already distracted. He's distracted. Now if he, if he comes in, he's playing Animal Crossing, all's forgiven. Because I need more friends to

help me unlock things. Are you playing Animal Crossing yet? Yeah. You fucked up by not playing Animal Crossing right now. Yeah. Animal Crossing Pocket Camp. Go get it right now. Go get it right now. Go get it right now. Go get it right now. Stop your work and get it. Yeah. Yeah, you probably did rent it on GameCube. But now it's on your phone. It's free. Unless you want to spend it right now on your big phone. Oh, your big phone. Yeah. And then come back and let us know what you think. Craig.

Go get it. Cool, Greg. You guys are making me nervous. Animal Crossing has that effect on people. So besides Animal Crossing, you've been playing anything else? Yeah, two trophies away from the Destiny Platinum now. Very excited about that.

Yeah, it's, I got to do the prestige nightfall. Apparently, some kids in the kind of funny games daily messages were saying, this is an easy one. So I got that going for me. I'm playing it with a Tony from the Extra Life crew out in Maryland. Awesome.

And then I got to do the, Trials of the Nine thing this weekend. Trials of the Nine. I'm looking for an elite squad of super soldiers who are great at competitive multiplayer to basically form a halo around me. And then still win, but let me not die as much.

Because that's all it's going to be. It's me running from bullets. I'm not going to be able to stop anybody there. I believe in you. I had to have my heart broken. I decided. So I turned Marvel Heroes Omega back on for the first time since the announcement

that is closing on December 31st. very bittersweet, super sad to go into it, just because it's like, I do love that game. You know what I mean? You know, for all it's warts, it's not like an amazing game or anything. It's just a fun time way, which is similar to Animal Crossing.

But to go in there and then have every costume available and they're only charging one currency for everything. And you have like tons of currency. It's not like that's like rare. You know what I mean? Like these are things that used to cost real money and stuff. Now everything's just set to one. So you can get in there and buy XP boost and all that.

And so then I did the thing. What did you do, Greg? where I looked at the trophies. I was like, I'm not that far from the platinum. Oh my God. But I'm like, I know that like,

I'm like, oh, I get these legendary artifacts and all that shit. I'm like, and there's definitely a few on there where I'm like, I'm close.

Like I could, let's, so I played last night for like an hour, maybe 45 minutes, uh, running around with all the, uh, XP modifiers cranked up,

seeing if I, how fast I could level a character. Cause I already, you know, I hit level cap with Spider Man, prestige to him. Of course you know. Now I need to do it again for another trophy there.

I picked up a Sinister 6 trophy, a couple of little things like that, the training dummy stuff that I've missed. And but I was, you know, I was making pretty good progress. I think I got that, the Spider-Man up to 15 or whatever. Wow. And so I was like, and this is running around Midtown Manhattan, where there's a trophy for saving 100 civilians, which also now seem to be just peppered around, where I'm like, if I really got serious and I started looking at, then I went down the rabbit hole, where I got three tabs open. I'm on PSN profiles, which is linking me here, which I'm on PlayStation trophies.org. And it's back to the, Marvel forums and with the backbreaker was like, all right, cool. What about if there's one in there

of like leveling this thing to an artifact and then it was like I had to use my stupid specialist engineering and logic. Basically I started like it's spreadsheet time of like what do you need. I'm like no, no, no, no, we're not doing this too much. Maybe we'll come back for some other trophies, but we're not going to try to actually commit to this. Because there's just other things to play, of course. Yeah. Speaking to Marvel, I didn't play it, but Marvel superheroes two, legal Marvel superheroes too is out. We're in it. We're. We're. in it and I was like, I'm just curious. I want to see how hard would it be to get to our characters.

Supposedly not hard at all. You're the first one that pops up, I think. Oh, am I? I saw somebody tweet you yesterday. I mean, like, hey, I ran into Throg and it's Tim Geddes and he made me smile. Yeah, I didn't, I'm waiting to see everybody else. I think it's, I mean, it's a more, it seems like it's an open world. It's an open world, so you can just run into it.

Yeah. But you can definitely play as Throg, Thor of, Thorfrog of Thunder. He's the Thor Frog. And that is me. And then you are the voice of Howard the Duck. Correct. Nick is Spider-Ham and Kevin is Tinkerer. Tinkerer is the only one that I haven't seen

because I was kind of looking for it. There's like walk-through videos that people have made of how to find all of our characters, but not Kevin's. And it's just so weird. And I was just like watching. And it's like I didn't really realize

when I was recording the lines what like how it was going to be used. Yeah. But it's like we get our each character because it's own like quest. Oh yeah. And it's like it's like a 10, 15 minute story that like you're your dude.

You don't play. as Throg, he just like follows you around and like talks to you and it's me and it's really like off putting and weird. Yeah. And I was just like, man, like I don't sound good. This isn't good at all. And I started with some other people. I'm like, I don't sound that bad compared to everyone else. Like, all right.

This all fits. It all works. That's the weird thing of thinking of people who are playing it that don't know about kind of funny and don't know about us. And they're just like totally just accepting of weird voices. A lot of the, the comments sections are like, oh shit. It's, you know, it's Tim or it's Nick. Yeah. And most of the people playing, no, it's you.

Sure. So it's cool. I don't know. I was like, this is super neat and random. And like I, it's a cool thing to be a part of it. It's definitely motivated me to be like,

I want to play it. It's just to see how it feels to hear my voice coming out of a video game. You don't play as you in the mission, but you definitely will be able to unlock your character to play us. Yeah, but then I don't think you hear yourself talk. We didn't do any grunts or anything. When I did,

well, last time around when I did, this is what they called. I'm sorry. When I did Aldrich Killian, I did a whole bunch of, uh, uh, ah!

Ah! Ha! They're like, you're falling from a building. Ah! You're falling from three steps. Like, ah. Anyway, it's pretty cool. And I enjoyed that.

I was showing Gia. And she was like, this is so freaking weird. We had a conversation about it in one of the shows, right, of talking about how well do you think it'll actually do? You know what I mean? Because it was like the box art doesn't have like every, blah, blah, blah. Have you seen? The reviews are all like, this is the best Marvel.

No way. Yeah. Yeah. This is the best Lego. This is the best Lego game in a while. That's really cool. I still, what I say, I think still stands. Oh, sure. No, I'm not...

Everything I've seen in the game, I'm just like, wow, like this is really grasping. You have to be a super Marvel fan boy. Super Marvel fan boy or Super Lego game fanboy. Sure. And I'm sure there's a lot of those as well. But yeah, pretty cool. Pretty cool stuff. I've been playing a lot of Mario Odyssey, but I feel like we don't need to talk about that.

That's great. It's great. Game of the year. Battlefront two, I talked about the campaign last week and how much it let me down. And this weekend, I played a bit more or a bit of the multiplayer. Yeah. And without giving a crap about the progression systems or the anything of like Loot boxes and all just just playing a little bit because I know how I play

multiplayer games. It's like I'm not going to like play it for months on end. It was just like cool. I'm going to have fun. And I did. Galactic assault and Starfighter assault. Super fun. I prefer the Starfighter.

I feel like it, it is a bit more gratifying to play against other people than it isn't the single player campaign. Okay. It's beautiful. like we were saying. So I had some fun there. I don't know how much more I'm going to pop back in,

but what I did have a good time with is the arcade mode. They had that in a Battlefront One as well. And it's just like stupid little like hoard mode type things. But it's just fun. And I feel like that's how I like to play Battlefront. But yeah, it's definitely, it's weird because I feel like for as limited as Battlefront One was,

I wanted to keep going back to it more than I wanted to do. too, even though there's so, there's much more to do. It's something about it doesn't feel right. And maybe it's just all the negative buzz around it stuff that's like souring at all. But, um, yeah, I had, I'd fun with it. And then I play. I saw Polygoner Kataku put up an article today that was like the battlefront two campaign is Star Wars done well or done good or something like that. I saw that as well. And I know you don't agree. Yeah. It is that. I'm my, I want to play it. Obviously, Mitch wrote it,

Walt wrote it. They're friends of ours on. And I, Janina is our friends. And I, and there on the show. And I think I want to have Mitch through, of course, to talk about it. So I need to play it, the single player. But I'm wondering if I'm going to like it more than you because I'm not such a hardcore story. I don't think so. So that's kind of the problem is like last week.

I know we already like beat this to death. But the story is problematic. Like the way that they tell the story in a lot of ways it is authentically Star Wars. Like it does feel like Star Wars. I said this last week as well. But it kind of feels. like a season of a TV show if you condensed it down into a limited amount of time and chopped out a whole bunch of pieces like maybe like you didn't watch every episode that's kind of

how it feels it's very disjointed and weird and I feel like how they just went with Janina's storyline or Iden Verso Versio's storyline that would have made a much better impact and it would have at least the story would have worked as a narrative thread like so that's the thing is like Because it's not so much the, oh, it's not Star Wars enough or whatever. That's not my problem at all. Like some of the heroes being like shoehorned in, it felt like they're shoehorned in. But there wasn't ever a time where they did something or acted in a way where I'm like, oh, Luke wouldn't do that.

Gotcha. Like Luke's mission in particular, I think does the best job. That's not even fair to say. Landers is great too. I heard people praising Landos. Landos, I like him because it has this other character, Shriv, who is fantastic. What's up? Wado?

No, he's like, he's nothing like Wado. But could it be water under disguise? Definitely not. But Luke's mission, even though it's not fun to play, story-wise, like, it is interesting. And like the way that Luke is acting feels right for where Luke would be at right after Return of the Jedi. So it's like,

in a lot of the Star Wars ways, and that's what I'm saying, I think Nick might enjoy it like more than you. But I'm going to, I'll let you know. I'll get back to you. I do want to give shoutouts. Of course, we have Thanksgiving this week,

recording earlier than we normally do two days earlier. I'm going to go home. the night and play Planet of the Apes with Jen. Last Frontier. Of course, there's an interview with Andy Circus, me interviewing Andy Circus one-on-one about it. It's up on YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. It's also on your gamescast podcast feeds.

However, it might actually be behind the Jack episode. Because apparently, even though I uploaded that in the afternoon, it looks like that got uploaded after the fact, because it was above it in SoundCloud today for some reason. Weird. So I don't know if that, I think that's going to be a game I really dig based on everything I've heard and seen about it, but I can't really say it. And then in the same breath, I would have played Batman, episode three, because that just came out today as well on PlayStation. So I want to pick up with my save over the next few days for that.

With the downtime, too, I'd like to finally play it through the last day of June, which is a game that I was so blown away with at Judges Week. And then came out since then, but it came out in the middle of everything else and I ever got to. The last game I've been playing is Rocket League on Switch. And, man, that game is just so impressive. The moment when I first booted it up, I'm like, there was so much constant. content here and they've been kidding man it's such like quality of life stuff is just through the roof and they there's so much fan service and love poured into it and it's like even just the menu and like the music that's playing and they they have something so special and I knew that but actually playing it and seeing it was just like wow like they deserve all the accolades they've been getting they deserve all the we need party money we need a party move that we get definitely but one thing I realized very quickly I am so bad at this game I am so bad at Rocket League it's so much fun, but damn. Are you playing other people or bots? I'm just playing against bots. I'm scared to play against people. Oh, God. No, you're

calm down. But man, it's like, it is, it's such a great game and like I want to get good at it. I just don't know that I have it in me. I feel like the way we to do this, to mitigate this is if we all play together. Yeah. Because then it is just us playing against each other and trying to be as good as each other, which is different and attainable. Yeah. Rather than worrying about like going online and doing the fucking thing really never touched the ground and they're just like, it's, it's crazy. It's head in the ball all the way. Yeah. It's cool, though. And I love the amount of different modes, not that I played, all of them. but just seeing I'm like, oh, this is cool that there's different arenas and like there's the basketball now and all that. I'm like, I still even booted it up on Switch. Is it run well?

Is it look good? Yeah, I played for maybe like two and a half hours and it totally ran well. Never had any issues with it at all. The loading, I would have wished it was faster, but like it wasn't slow. It's just, you know, I don't like loading. Sure, who does? Yeah. And playing on the switch, it feels right.

It's good. It's cool. It's like the perfect type of game for that. And I can imagine the like local multiplayer. It's going to be through the roof and things like packs and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, totally.

Very cool. Awesome. Now Greg. Yeah, this time for this week in gaming history. Oh, okay. Let's go through it real quick. Again, it's November. So there's a lot of stuff going on.

It's popping off. A lot of console launches. Of course. This week in gaming history. Three years ago, November 21st, 2014, Smash Brothers for the Wii you came out. Fantastic. What a great damn game.

I'm worried about Smash Brothers. Yeah, you're very worried. Where the fuck is it? Put it on Switch. I don't think at this point we're going to get a smash 4 port over to the switch. Yeah. And what worries me about that is that that means we're going to get smash 5. If smash 5 isn't even announced until, like, I don't know, this E3 seems a little early to me.

Yeah. But it has to be announced. Then it needs at least a year and a half, if not two years after that for it to actually come out based on Saccharize history. But what worries me the most is the fact that smash Wii U. is kind of smash perfected in a lot of ways. It's the add of the eight player smash. Like they kept the they didn't add bullshit motion controls. They didn't add bullshit like anywhere.

And the roster is insane. Yeah, bring back ice climbers. Bring back snake. That definitely. But besides that, like the fact that we have Bayonetta and Ryu and cloud, we're not going to get them back in Smash 5. And that's so sad.

Yeah. But anyway, bring it on. Four years ago, November 22nd, 2013. Xbox 1 launched. There it is. Yes. The granddaddy of them will rise and connect. It's better with connect.

It's better with connect. Life's better than connect. Four years ago on November 22nd, 2013 as well, two other things happened. Super Mario 3D world on Wii U. Super underrated. That needs to come to switch. More damn sure. We're done.

No. That's not like, I mean, they can make a new one if they want. They don't need to re-release that one. Oh, no. Dude, the right move is to re-release that one with local multiplayer support. whatever and cap. Give me Mario Maker more than that. That's what I want that more than.

I want Mario Maker for sure. And I have a feeling we're going to get Mario Maker sometime next year. And I think it's going to be a proper Mario Maker 2. What I'm predicting is you'll be able to make world maps. And well, that, that's kind of like the dream goal. But the realistic thing is you'll be able to make games worlds.

Like not just random levels, but like world one one. Yeah, yeah. Connect everything together. Connect the little big planet move. I've actually made able link your levels together. And that sounds fantastic. And then also the same day, Zelda link between worlds on 3DS came out. Now that was a fucking jam right there.

What a leap for Zelda. That was kind of like Breath of the Wild 4 2D Zelda for top down Zelda. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Go wherever the fuck you want, do whatever you want to do in whatever order. Very freaking cold. Not my favorite Zelda. Now do you feel you follow in that because so many people thought it was just a link to the past again? No, no, no, no, because all I want is a link to the past again.

I just feel like there was something about it that the painting gimmick. I liked it was cool. Yeah. But it was unnecessary. Like I don't feel like it really added too much. It was just like a fun visual thing. But like also linked to the past, I hold in such high regard that I'm just happy we got a sequel to it. But overall, just a really good game instead of like a masterpiece in my mind.

As somebody who didn't play a lot of link to the past, like I had it on my Game Boy SP back in the day. And it was hard to see stuff on it and blah. I fucking loved that game. The link between worlds, I remember playing on a moment. way to you panic in like just killing the DS like it was before plugs in plane seats and it was just like this is so fucking awesome this is such a great game um and then here for you Greg five years ago November 20th 2012 persona for golden on PlayStation Vita what a jam right there thank you atlas for defining the the PlayStation Vita you know yeah exactly coming out and giving

a people were already moving on saying it was dead and then there it came everybody had to dust it off update their firmwares and get out there I mean that really was the Vitas like swan song's not the right word, but kind of... I mean, it's the definitive Vita game. Yeah. There's no other Vita game you're going to point to and like talk about like that had an impact and got outside of just the PlayStation Faithful. That was the one.

I got people to buy a Vita to play it. Right. And then not have them regret it. The ones who did. You know what I mean? Like they bought it and they were like super in that this was great. Uh, five years ago on November 20th, 2012 PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale. Yeah.

Came out. A PlayStation 3. Man, can you imagine that game came out now instead of then? I just feel like it would be so much better. with the roster of characters that PlayStation has and getting crashed back. Sure. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like just in the last couple years, we've gotten to a point where there are Ellie. Like, there are more defining characters that would have made the roster not look so much like a joke. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, the roster was never the problem with the game. The roster was definitely a big problem. A problem.

Here's my, here's the three big problems of the game. One, the roster. Two, it was Smash Bros, but it wasn't Smash Bros. Right. Three, the level three finishers, the way that they functioned and having to get that to be the only people. I put that on the umbrella. The game's biggest problem is that it was 95% Smash Brothers and refused to go to that extra

5%. Yeah. If you would have gone the extra 5%, it would have been a different story. But the fact that, yeah, you had to knock people out that your level three finisher was like a weird, it made for tense moments, but then it also just made the rest of the game like, all right, fuck, I'm trying to level up and trying to level up. where you don't have the smash moments of a weird move knocking someone off and doing it. But my thing about it is, it's four years ago you said, sorry?

No, five, five years. We're five years ago, we're transition, where PlayStation 3 is doing extremely well. It's catching up to Xbox. You know, it doesn't surpass it until the end of the life cycle. But it's catching up on the power of its exclusives. And it's catching up with that. PlayStation audience that made up the audience of podcasts beyond going behind it. I feel like the problem isn't the roster because you had a PlayStation community there that

did want to play this and did want to love it. It's just the fact the gameplay wasn't what it needed to be. And I mean, even now, if you put it out with a great roster, sure, there's more PlayStation 4 is running away with it and being awesome. But it's the same thing if you kept that style of combat, everybody would still be like, or if that hadn't happened five years ago, it happens now. it would still be like, all right, cool. Ellie's in it, but.

Yeah. And I don't even know if they put Ellie in it. I think they would. Why wouldn't they? I mean, Last of Us, I know it's all zombies and stuff. Did you fucking download the game yet, Cool, Greg? Where, you fucking, you better come in here. Show me some bells you weren't out there.

There's a guy who paints in it. And he's talking about painting cars, cool Greg, but it sounds like he's talking about tagging. Anyways, I digress. I mean, it's video games so stick with me and you're fighting zombies, but I feel like isn't the trials and tribulations of Ellie and Joel a little bit of mature subject matter that you don't want to then put in like Drake works in there because his is a pulp action whereas like Ellie who has seen all these people die and has seen all this horrible shit in her life and shiv's people and I mean I feel what's her move her move is

using the bone arrow and stuff. I mean but or they can go the more like Marvel versus Capcom route or like smash pros pro's route where it's just like inspired by the game so it's like she could even sick zombies and things like that like like Jill Valentine did in Marvel's Capcom. Sure. Like it's more inspired and like it that's like salt snake fighting Pikachu doesn't make any sense either. But it works. Yeah.

Well, those characters are goofy in a way. Like solid snake. I love doing wrong. I love metal gear. But he's fighting giant robots and it's all like, you know, oh. Yeah. And like stuff like that. Like Ellie's a little girl who is in this hellish post apocalyptic landscape.

And they know. I think it's even naughty dog like with where they put. A better example, not even example. not even example, I guess, but like, I can compare it to like when I was like, they should put Ethan Mars in fucking thing from Heavy Rain. I was like, that was a joke. I don't think Ethan Mars should really be in it. It'd be a weird turn for Ethan Mars, a character that feels so grounded.

And I know it's weird to say Ellie and Joel feel grounded in a world of clickers. I don't know. I think that Ethan Mars could work. I think that Ellie could work. You heard my pitch for a super. It was the best one of all. But that's the type of stuff where I feel like these games, that is the 5% besides the gameplay elements. Like you just need to commit.

It's just like make it make an ace attorney in Marvel versus Capcom. How the fuck would that work? Oh, they did it. Like that those type of things I think are important. But whatever. We'll never get a, we'll never get a, we'll never get it.

Everybody stop biting. Every time a PlayStation press conference comes up, there's some rumor of battles. I'll never give up. I want it. Man, I wish SuperBot was still in business. I wish it had been a bigger hit. I wish they went full Smash Brothers.

They could have just done a mode. The mode is that you want to only knock people out of the Supers, but the real game or vice versa is Smash Brothers. Too much ego, too much pride. Six years ago, November 20th, 2011, Zelda's Skyward Sword came out on Wii. The only modern Zelda game that I haven't beat. It's not good.

Yeah. I remember playing, I was not enjoying this. I did like the motion controls in the game. Like, that's one of those things that a lot of people hate on. But they were fun, they were good, and I feel like a lot of the game was designed around them well. I had a bigger problem with, I thought that the story took way too long to get going.

Not Twilight Princess long, but even once it was moving. Like Zelda was finally such a cool character in that game. And then I feel like they quickly ruined it. And I was like, I'm done. And I just never went back. Seven years ago, November 21st, 2010, Donkey Kong Country Returns on Wii. Super underrated, super good game.

The worst part about it was having to use motion controls to roll. I hope that there is a chance of getting Duncan Country returns, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze on the switch and then fixing the control. Do you not feel like we've moved beyond it? I feel like this first year was your year or your year to be like, cool. What Wii titles do we want to port over and have be like re-releases?

And I feel like now that we get to 2018, they got to be like, cool, now we're moving out. I totally don't think so. There's too many amazing games that were trapped on the Wii that sold extremely well for a system that only had 13 million out there. Like it would be a mistake for them to not put. Like Smash Bros. at this point, I get it.

I get where they're at with it. Sure, I agree. But Donkey Island Tropical Freeze, Super Mario 3D world, it's a travesty that they're stuck on the Wii. Those are amazing games and they would sell so well on the Switch. I'm gonna be shocked

if those don't happen at some point. Would you settle for virtual console names? Like not re-released whatever the hell kind of things, but they were like, are we are putting select Wii U and Wii games on it? Whatever way it gets them on there, but I don't think that that's committing in the right way. Like I feel like they need

to pretend these are real games in the same way like Mario Cardi Deluxe. It's just like here it is. You know. Yeah, that's good point. And I get what you're saying about like, oh, we're past that, but it's like we're not. Like the switch right now is there's still a balance problem with Nintendo when it comes to their first party titles. And they only have so many they can put out. So I think Wii U ports are a easy way to pat in addition to the indie games and their first party and then the other third party that are coming on ports that are going to be coming through.

We'll see. We will. Seven years ago, November 22nd, 2010. Red Dead Redemption Undead Night. Oh, we. one of the first kind of added DLC standalone. That was like where you're like, this is a game.

I remember that it was a huge, huge, huge deal at IGN when Christine gave that a 10. She gave it a 10 out of 10. And it was like, this isn't DLC. This is a game. Like, this is amazing.

And then playing it, you're like, fuck, yes it is. Not to mention for me, somebody who loved Red Dead and love zombies. Like what a perfect. What they are.

Exactly. They weren't everywhere. Yeah, yeah, it was such a great fucking title. So awesome. I can't wait for Red Day, too. 10 years ago, November 20th, 2007, two things happened.

Rock band, number one on Xbox 360, change in the game. And Mass Effect. Oh, wow. The first one on Xbox 360. Wow. Yeah. It's weird to think back that that was on Xbox exclusive for a long time. Yeah.

People love that game. Good on both of them. Franchises getting started. 11 years ago, November 19, 2006, the Wii launched alongside Wii Sports and Zelda. Cheap. Twilight Princess. 12 years ago on November 22nd, 2005, Xbox 360 launched. Oh, wow.

Yeah. I remember that Time magazine cover with Bill Gates holding it up and having the lit up. I remember the MTV showcase that revealed the 360 and showed all the first gameplay footage of it. And it was just like, wow, this is what HD looks like. HD gaming. Holy crap, Call of Duty 2, Tony Hawk's American Wasteland. Yeah.

Let's go. 13 years ago, November 20th, 2004, the Nintendo D. came out alongside Mario 64 DS. A great port of Mario 64 held back by bullshit controls. I don't know if you remember, you had to hold one of the buttons to run. And then you have to use the Dpad because there was no analog on the DS to move. And Mario 64 is all about the analog. So it came with that stupid thumb.

Oh, the nub thing you put on. Yeah. That was very, very bad. But it sucks because Mario 64 was enhanced in a lot of ways by that game. They added Mario, Yoshi and Luigi, each with different gameplay elements. They changed how some of the stars were. They added 30 more stars to the game. So there's 150 instead of 120.

And the graphics were improved as well. It was kind of an old school HD, even though it wasn't HD. But it looked better than Mario 64 in some ways and looked worse and others due to the DS's capabilities. But yeah, it just sucks because that game with analog controls might be the best version of Mario 64. 15 years ago on November 19, 2002, BMXXX came out on PS2. What a time capsule. Fuck thought that was a good idea. That was such a game that was just like, let's get headlines.

Yeah, totally. Let's have magazines just write us up every like month after month. Here's an update on this trash game. Like the guy in. Oh, I was supposed to say e-sports. Extreme sports. They're fucking in right now. BMX has accident.

What if we added three more X's? Naked women, polygons. Why the fuck? not why. Games aren't just for kids anymore, right? They're for adults who want to see some tithas. God, that was such a bad time. Showing him to tithas. 18 years ago on November 24th, 1999, Donkey Kong 64 came out. On N64, I wouldn't even bring it up because it's a piece of trash game. That's my man. That's my boy. My boy blessing out there. He needs to know. Here's the thing about Donkey Kong games. They all suck.

Oh my God. I'm fucking triggered. I'm talking about even the original one. I'm like, Jesus. Okay. Getting the fucking hammer hopping over fucking parents. The original one. I'm not even going to comment on because like whatever.

It's an old ass fucking game. Donkey Kong 94 on the Game Boy. Fucking amazing game. Never played it. Donkey Kong Country. Yeah. One and two. Yeah.

Togicong Country Tropical Freeze. Some of the best platforms of all fucking time. I remember watching that shit Tropical Freeze garbage at IG and just been like, nah, just the same old, same old. You're so. I want a fucking banana.

You're so wrong. It's like it's upsetting how wrong here This is one of the few times where like Here's the thing I couldn't even communicate with her But I'd rather hang out with that gorilla that does sign leg Which than play another fucking Donkey Kong gang Alright that's what I'm just saying God You should give

If Tropical Freeze comes out on the switch You need to play Okay Like you fucking have to play it's so good I don't know what it is I'm yeah because obviously I'm just fucking around I mean I don't like I've never played a Donkey Kong game that I've enjoyed but I didn't I never I never got country too man

Oh I don't know why I'm I'm a full blown racist against Donkey Kong. You know what I mean? Like I just don't like this ape. And I'm not a fan of his shit. You know what I mean? He has good shit.

And that's the other thing too. He's just, he's annoying. He looks like he probably smells. He annoys me in like Mario Kart. You don't even, you don't play as him. You go save him.

Did he's calm? I don't want to save him. I hope they turned him into glue. Holy shit. 19 years ago November 23rd, 1998, Zelda Ocarina of Time came out. What a fucking game.

What a game. You're talking about a game that like, just changed it all. Yeah, yeah. Changed all. Yeah, yeah. Changed all. One of my biggest regrets is I was at a blockbuster going out of business sailing.

I didn't buy a gold cartridge for it. And I, I were talking to my friend at home who was trying to get me to buy it or play it forever. I was like, ah, you know, he finally lent me his and I was like, fuck, I fucked up. This game's awesome. Yeah. I wish I had that gold cart. Oh, the gold cart, man. Yeah.

Uh, 24 years ago on November 19, 1993, Sonic CD came out on Sega CD and then 25 years ago on November 24th, 92, Sonic 2 on the Genesis. Did you see that they tried to make today Sonic Tuesday? Yeah. And they put out Sonic 2 for free or whatever on a Sega Master collection. I would say they did. Okay, Greg. I guess they,

I mean, they did it. Fourth November 21st will be known as Sonic Tuesday. Even next year when it's a Wednesday? Suck it, people. Suck it everybody. Nintendo forever. Or Sega Forever collection.

Why do I want to keep putting Nintendo in there? That's where Sonic belongs now. It does it. Okay. Now it's time for the topic of the show, Greg. Tats, Tats, Tats. Which is Game Awards. We're doing predictions.

Going through them all. Let's freaking go. So when are the Game Awards, Tim? The Game Awards are Jeff Keeley's amazing production that he puts on that celebrates the year in video games. It used to happen on Spike TV and now it has under a different name. And now it happens across the internet in a bunch of various different ways. I'm going to borrow your pen as well. Why didn't you?

Hey, Kevin! Can you get me a pen? Thank you, Kev. I walk in there. Joey's just standing in the middle of the doorway, pulling a candle. As the wind is blowing. That's weird. That's weird.

I don't know if anyone can hear you. Yeah. You can admit that you're conjuring spirits in there. It's fine. We don't mind. It's trying to get them bells. Exactly. So now my question was, when are the game awards?

You described what they are, which I appreciate. Thursday, December 7th. Thursday, December. They kick off PSX weekend down there in Anaheim. If you're going to PSX, we're doing stuff down there. Check all the social platform. Some of it hasn't been announced. So the game awards has a history of being about an hour and a half long, I think.

Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it is, while they do go through all the different awards, it's mainly focused on game reveals and updates on games and things like that. New trailers and whatever, and they kind of like brush through the award winning. But people do win and people do enjoy it. You are a former winner of 2015 trending game of the year. Greg Miller. Here you know.

You're an amazing speech. People can go YouTube out. They haven't seen it before. Trophies on my desk. It's very big and very, very, very heavy. You wouldn't expect to be that heavy. It is a very heavy trophy. It is very heavy.

So it's an exciting time for everybody. What I want to do with you, Greg. Yeah. Is go through all of the different categories and vote for what we think our answers would be. But then also predict what the winner is going. So you and I are. The Tim Ballot, the Greg Ballot, but then we're sitting there and prognosticating

what we think will actually win the game award. Yeah. And I also want this to be clear. We'll have a separate game of the year conversation at kind of funny in the coming weeks for us. When we've played even more stuff, yeah. Yeah, so it's like this is as of right now, how we're feeling. Sure. Anything can change. Who the park knows. Okay. But an important thing to note is

the way that these are decided is there is a committee of a bunch of different game media outlets that all get to nominate games as a unit. And then once the games are nominated, like they are now, those same outlets, judges, they get to vote.

Kind of funny is one of those along with people like IGN or, GameSpot, Game Informer, giant bomb, easy allies. So on and so forth. Things of those nature.

Let's start backwards. I'd like to point out that I have highlighted what I want, the Greg Picks are here. So if you're out there watching, you're like, why are some of the pages highlighted? this because I did that.

You want to start backwards and work away. I just start backwards. Okay, cool. So then, best e-sports team. So, okay, here's the thing. There is a couple of categories that are not voted on by us. They voted on by the people. Right.

Those include best e-sports team, best e-sports player, which we're not even going to talk about because we are out of our league. Best e-sports game is up there. Rocket League, League of Legends, Dota 2, CSGO. Overwatch. Now here's my thing. I don't think we need to give a vote for what we think. Yeah. This is more of a vote for who do we think, a prediction of who we think is going to win. It's a hard thing to do because we're not esports people, which is why we're not voting on the other sports categories. I would like to believe Rocket League's going to win. I think it's been a big

year for Rocket League. I feel like the Rocket League, uh, e-sports, whatever they call the league is doing really well. There was a time with WWE. Like it's more mainstream than ever. It is a game that people have fond feelings of. And it's not even the fact that Loll Dota Overwatch or CSGO aren't popular anymore. I just feel like those games have had years of recognition. Well, not Overwatch, but years of recognition.

And Rocket League might get the knot this year. I predict Overwatch. You predict Overwatch. I think Overwatch is going to win it. They've done a lot this year. Overwatch is sort of the talk. The Blizzard Overwatch League just launching. The big problem is like I don't have a,

since I don't have a finger on those communities, I don't know how people are going to come down and vote and decide those things. Yeah. I think it's Overwatch. Okay. Then there's trending gamer of the year. Andrew Renee.

Steven Spone. Spawn. Spawn. Mike Rizzleck, Guy Beam, who, Dr. disrespect,

and Clint Lexa. So the thing here is we want Andrew to win. We want Andrew to win. If you're listening to this right now, Google, trending gamer vote. You can vote for Andrew

right there in Google. You can go to Game Wars. You can go to Bitley, vote Andrew Renee. You can vote once a day. And if you, that is the key thing. Because if I'm being honest,

Dr. Disrespect has this in the bag. Here's my question for you. As somebody who doesn't know much about Dr. Disrespect other than I know that you put him on the nomination for him for kind of funny. We know that he's doing a lot of great things. Is he campaigning as well? As I don't know. And the thing is all it would take for him with his 30,000 concurrent viewers every time you Twitch

streams to be like, hey, go vote for me a couple times. And it's a show. Well, it's the same thing that I mean, PewDie Pied could have crushed me. Markiplier could have crushed me back in the day. He wants it though. I know he wants it. How much is he pushing it? I don't know.

I have no idea. But I will say this, Greg, that because we can vote once a day, which was not the case for you, I don't think. I thought we could vote over again. Yeah. Oh.

Oh. Well, so that's thing. Whatever that proves my case even more. I think that Andrew Renee really can win this. Yeah. And right now, I think she's going to win this. Okay. Because we have so many people out there that are committed.

The best friends. And want this to happen and understand that like, even though we have a smaller, group were committed to voting every day. Right. So I don't know, man. I'm going to just, I'm going to predict and I want Andrew Renee to win. Yay!

That's who I want to win. And that's the, I'm looking through what I'm doing right now is looking through Dr. Disrespects Twitter to see if, and I haven't seen him. I'm back to November 9th and I haven't seen anything up there about anything going on here. The other thing too is when I, I do a cursory search on the Googles and the Twitters and the hashtag checks. Yeah.

When you're checking for trending gamer, and Drew Renee's coming up a lot. Yeah, because we're campaigning. The thing is, we have a shot, guys. It's got to believe and vote. I'm going to believe to. I'll predict Andrew, but I think, again, it's because we're doing the same thing we did for me.

We're just not shutting up about it. We need you to go vote. We want to win this for her. She's kind of funny family. You know that. What's good games has had an amazing year. It's much like we had. It's very interesting.

Yeah. They're 2015 compared to their 2017. Yeah. It's very much the same thing. Let's start this awesome thing. It's amazing. No jokes. Nothing like that.

this is a huge deal. Like it's not just, oh, we get to win something. It's like, you winning that gave us so many opportunities for kind of funny and being able to, to grow and be like, oh, we're actually a real thing that people should respect in the industry from like other places. Like, even when places like PlayStation, they're like, oh shit, like Greg Miller is a established voice. He's not just a guy from podcast beyond.

Sure. I was able to beat PewDie Pie. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I don't mean that in a pound my chest condescending way. It was it. Like, nobody expected me to be able to do that. Yeah.

No one on. I remember walking up to Game Awards. and running into developer friends. Like, oh, cool, are you covering it? I'm like, oh, no, I'm actually nominated. Oh, what are you nominated for a trending gamer? Who are you up against PewDiePy? Oh, well, it's cool just to get nominated.

I'm like, I know, but I already knew. Because back in my day, we could see the stats on how we were doing in terms of percentages and stuff like that. Yeah, it's just all of us getting behind Andrea and doing what we did for me for her. But I think the fact that she's had an amazing year, you know what I mean? And granted, I'm sorry, I don't know Mike. I don't know Clinton. I really don't know Dr. Disrespect.

I mean, I know of Dr. Disrespect. But those three guys, like, I don't know. Steve, of course, is amazing. Steve writes, Abel Gamer's charity, does stuff with us, writes different kind of funny games daily when we have questions about it. He's amazing guy.

I'm not trying to take away from him either. But it's also, able gamers has been doing amazing work for years as well. Andrea started this thing, hosted the Nintendo World Championship, not to tutor own horn, but it's a part of kind of funny games daily. Like her career went up a notch this year

in terms of, hey, like, I am here and I am a credible voice and I want to be a part of this. And then it's one of them. I think it's Mike is, really respected in the speed running community. So he does have a fan base too. So it's not just between Andrea and Dr. Disrespect.

But we'll see. We'll see. Most anticipated game, another one that is voted on by the fans. Last of Us 2, Red Dead redemption 2, Monster Hunter World, Spider-Man, or God of War. I think it's between Spider-Man, Red Dead, or Last of Us.

I think it's Red Dead or Last of Us. Yeah. I would probably say that. I think Last of Us appeals. Everybody loves last, not everybody, but most people love Last of Us. but Red Dead's going to appeal to an audience that doesn't have a PlayStation.

And this is a people's vote. Yeah. I agree. Red Dead. But another one where really can't go wrong with. Mm-hmm. Except maybe Monster Hunter World. Like, cool, what's Monster Hunter?

No offense. Monster Hunter people. I'm, you know, I've reviewed my fair share of Monster Hunter. All right. Now we're getting into the actual. The real deal awards where people have to vote. We have to voted by a jury. Yeah, okay.

So best multiplayer. Call of Duty. World War II. It's like we're up and we're up there. Exclusive for me. Destiny 2. Fortnite. Mario Card 8 Deluxe.

Player Unknown's Battlegrounds. Splatoon 2. I highlighted it. Now that we're talking about it, I don't know if I agree with that. I mean, I highlighted Destiny 2 indicating I was going to vote for Destiny 2. But Player Unknown's Battleground.

My vote's PubG. And I also think PubG is going to win. I mean, my thing, I think the argument I would make is that Destiny 2's multiplayer is, I, we're not talking about overall game. We're not talking, we're talking about shooter. We're not talking about, uh, battle royal mode, right? We're talking about multiplayer.

And the reason I think I highlighted Destiny 2 is that it's multiplayer focused, stick with me in terms of I need to party up with two other friends. I need to have a raid group. I need to communicate. I need to talk. Like for somebody who didn't raid in Destiny 1, so I don't have any. And that's what's going to hurt it. Is that, oh, it's just Destiny 1 again.

Yeah. Destiny 2, like going through raids. I remember when people used to talk about this at IGN or Destiny would be like, oh yeah, we spent eight hours playing this radio, like you're fucking psychopath. You know what I mean?

That sounds like a nightmare. But doing the Destiny 2 raid, doing the Destiny 2 raid where we got stuck at Callis and played, you know, me, Andrew and a bunch of people played for four hours and failed and had to quit. It was still so much fun. Like there's the,

not only the accomplishment, of course, but the moments of, oh, we're so close. We almost have this and do that and call that out. Like, that multiplayer works on a level, for me at least.

that I think player unknown doesn't because player unknown is I think of player unknown or fortnight for that matter is me dropping in solo and going now granted you can do teams we've done team let's play and I mean a lot of people do and I think that's kind of what pushes me towards player unknown battlegrounds is like when you get your crew together and you're squatting up and getting out there the amount of hours that everyone has sunk into that is just insane and I for how early access that game is yeah whatever but how much fun it is I I think it's an easy. easy. My personal vote is going to stick with destiny too based on what I've done this year with

it. I do believe Player Unknown's Battlegrounds will win too, especially when you consider I think player unknown, especially in Game Awards is going to be people are going to want to recognize this game, but I don't think they're going to want to recognize it for game of the year. Yeah. So like where do you start voting for it? So it is nominated again because it is the people, not the, the, the jury voting for it.

Yeah. They are thinking that way. Exactly. So. All right. cool. Oh, we never came. Well, I guess we don't need to. Are we trying to come to consensus on what we think's going to win is kind of funny as well? Or like, esports game we said, I said, I said, I said, Rocket League. I like what our vote is you mean?

Yeah, don't worry about it. No, not our vote, but like, no, because like here it's like, I agree with you player unknown is going to win. It doesn't matter. That's just our predictions. Cool. Yeah. Someone will make a list. No, I'll save this. We can bring it up on the next game or games cast after a PSX. Um, then best sports slash racing game. Fifa 18, Fordsa Motorsport 7 Grand Tourismosport Sport NBA 2K18 Pro Evolution Soccer 2018

and Project Cars 2 I this So like to be up front with you guys The way Game Awards works Right if you don't have If you don't have expertise in the field If you haven't played I think they want maybe

Oh that was nominations You have three noms Whatever if you don't think you can You should vote in this Don't vote in it so we won't vote in this catalog In terms of who I think's gonna win I think Project Cars 2 is gonna win Really?

Yeah I think Forza Forza Motor Sports 7. Interesting. What's your reasoning? It's big and I feel like it's the better of the racing games versus based on what I've heard from what I've heard from people that see. See, I think what will happen is forza, while not nearly to the extent of battlefront or anything like that, had its own loot crate, not disaster.

But like people were like I know about Forza this year because of, oh, I remember when you guys put some loot crates in there got people really mad. project cars to the underdog this team that you know is making trying to make the most advanced simulation of all time but like have fun with the two and do all these different things like there are judges week presentation which is who's voting on this and i was there for i thought was extremely impressive as somebody who doesn't know fucking thing one about cars interesting where i was like i haven't heard shit about project cars too well and that's where it gets interesting right is like i think a lot of outlets will probably be like we don't have something really to say it about this unless they have a person on staff who's played every race yeah mr rachel

person. Okay. We'll see. Best strategy game. Halo Wars 2, Mario plus Rabbits Kingdom Battle, Total War, Warhammer 2, Tooth and Tail,

Xcom 2, War of the Chosen. Ah! Ooh, this one gets hard. My gut would be, I don't know tooth and tail. Me neither. Okay. So because of that,

I don't think it'll be it. Yeah. I don't think it'll be Halo Wars 2 either. I think it's Mario or Xcom. Total war, man. People really like it. Sure.

But Mario is Mario. And it's a game that came on and people didn't see coming. You didn't know what this game was going to be, let alone will it be good? You played it. It was good. It reviewed well. Everyone knows that. I feel like total war in Xcom 2 while great strategy games, right, are what you'd expect from them.

They're more of what's great about them. Now granted, this is a similar category where I think a lot of people are going to abstain from it. And then it is just going to be the real strategy people. And so will a real strategy person, somebody who is one of these nerdy PC types playing all their games and having a good time and seeing everything in 4 million frames per second, will they care about Mario? That's my thing. I, Mario's the only game out of these that I've played. And I did really, really, really enjoy it.

However, I didn't love it. Yeah. So because of that. That's a good point. That's a good point. I mean, that's not even fair to say. I did love it in a lot of ways. It's in my top 10 games of the year.

Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. But. And it's been a great year. But it's like, it's still, it's not perfect. You know, like, of course not. No, no, that's good point.

Even to like while I was playing it, I had a lot of issues with it. I had a lot of fun with it. And that's why it's in my top 10. But there was so many things. I'm like, oh, I wish they did this different. I wish they did that different. So because of that I don't want to vote in that category either because I want to leave that to the strategy. Oh, no.

Again, this is one I think kind of funny abstains from as well. That we just abstain from. But in terms of winners, like, see, it's a toss up because we're abstaining. And but I wonder how. This isn't a knock on anybody. I'm even, it's Mario, man. I think prediction wise.

Yeah, I think I am too because I think it's, I think it broke out of the mold of strategy. So I think more strategy people are going to, or I'm sorry, more non-strategy judges are going to feel like they can vote in this. And then they'll come in and vote and they'll vote for what they got caught off guard with. Best family game.

Way him on me. Mario Kart 8 deluxe. Mario plus Rabbits kingdom battle. Sonic Mania, Splatoon 2, Super Mario Odyssey. Mario Card 8 Deluxe So here's the thing, Greg

Yeah It's a port Yeah It should not be nominated for these things No It shouldn't Let's We gotta get over this

I don't know This is just like PubG No it's not We're putting dumb things No it's a new audience It was on the Wii you Nobody it was beta tested on Wii This is ridiculous

It's like there's been so many games That are Released with virtual console Whatever so we're not gonna put Ocarina of Time in here because it was re-released. Like, Deluxe added so little that I'm like,

I think it's insulting that it's with these other games. Well, it's insulting that it won. One nomination? No, one period. That's my vote. Yeah. And I think I was going to win too.

It's 2017. This is just like gay, straight, get over yourself. Labels don't matter anymore. Love is love, games or games. Yeah, but no, Mario Cardi, it's a different case. Fine. What do you want to do then, hate monger? What are you voting for?

That's my problem. It's like, I want Sonic Mani to win, but it's not. It's not a family game. No, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it's not. Like, I guess that's my thing. That's the only place Sonic Mania is on any of this. With all due respect to the game or it's, I just don't, I think family games is a weird

category. It totally is. Family game to me would be, uh, the, that's you thing or Sing Star or what are you playing with your family. You know, of these games, I can see. The answer is, is Mario Odyssey. No, because this is. Yeah.

The answer is it's your mom, like dad's sitting with the daughter playing Mario Odyssey, throwing the cap doing that shit. That's co-op mode. So fucking stupid. And I know that's not even necessary. What is to say what you're talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's the fan.

Mario Kart, you can actually play with your shitty kids. You can make them cry. Oh, I don't know. But no, you're right. I mean, I see Gary Wood out there talking about, you know, his daughter wanting to watch and play Mario and stuff like that. It's not Mario Rabbit's Kingdom Battle. No.

It's not Sonic Mania. It's not Sonic Mania. It's not Splittium 2. It's either Super Mario Odyssey or Mario Card 8. voting for Splatoon 2, though. Andy's not on this board. He can't vote for anything. I'm voting Mario Card Deluxe.

I think Super Mario Odyssey is going to win. What are you going to do, big boy? I don't know, man. Like, this is all a weird one. The legend. Because I just don't know where people are going to vote. Let loose the legend. Because it is a weird category.

Splatoon 2, I think, since it's only here, I think. Who cares? People care. People associate with family. Do they? Yeah. They do. What family is playing Splatoon 2?

A whole bunch of families. You can watch somebody play Splatoon 2. That's a boring ass game. You can play together. What? Don't you need two copies? Is this split screen? There's, yeah, you can play two people.

Splatoon. Um, whatever. I'm, I'm predicting Mario, or Odyssey. Well, then we agree on the winner. We're predicting, but not on the vote. Mario Kart deluxe should get it. You're a jerk and I hate you. It really shouldn't.

Best fighting game. I retweet it to him. Tell him he's wrong. Thanks, Keff. Best fighting game. Arms, injustice two. Marvel versus Capcom, Infinite, Nidhog 2, Tekken 7. Nidhog 2 is an interesting pick. I'm glad that got on there.

I'm predicting and voting for Injustice 2. There you go. I mean, it's just like everybody loves injustice too. Story mode was great. There's a level of quality that that game hits that the other ones don't. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. Arms was fun, but it's not.

It's just like, whatever. Too quick. Marvel versus Capcom infinite. Had issues. Yeah. Tekken 7 is just like, just tech and. Yeah.

The Nintan 2 is fantastic, but it's like, I don't know. That's weird. Can't do it. Best role playing game. Divinity, original sin 2. Final Fantasy 15. Near Itomata, persona 5, South Park, fractured butthole. Persona.

Man. So. Fracture but hole, great game. Not trying to take away from anything here. But it's not the winner. Neartanata, haven't played. That is an issue. It's on my, it's on my, yeah, my, my, my, my, my, my, play session during break.

Cool. I bet it's not ball fantasy 15 persona 5 you're just wasting your time no but it's a bit of original sin everyone has a boner for that they'd not like they did for persona 5 think of everyone you saw

playing persona 5 that would never ever tweet about a JRP they were playing before you're right I mean if you're trying to find your personal pick that's fine but clearly yeah yeah I mean I agree

that persona 5 is gonna win like my prediction would be persona 5 um a great game way too long I'm too busy. Best action adventure game.

Assassin's Creed Origins. Horizon Zero Dawn. Mario Odyssey. Zelda Breath of Wild. Uncharted Lost Legacy. I hate... It's so... Like these genres are so...

I hate that Mario is in here. Because I want to vote Mario on everything because it's my game of the year. But Best Action Adventure game is a weird place to put it. But I guess where else do you put it? There's no platform or thing. Even if there's no collect-a-thon thing. These are all amazing games.

vote and prediction is Horizon Zero Dot. Interesting. Interesting. That's where I feel like that game fits best. Whereas Mario, I don't think fits there. I agree. It doesn't fit there. So I guess that's a big thing. Zelda, I think, is going to be a game of the year. So I predict and vote Horizon there. Because Horizon's fantastic.

I hate this. And it needs something. I hate this. Because I feel like I hate this. You're right. Mario doesn't fit there is what it feels wrong about it. You might, yeah. Yeah, you might have, I was gonna vote.

I was gonna, yeah. I would have done Mario, but now you, you won me over onto the horizon, and you're predicting Horizon too? Uh, yes. I predict Horizon. Your predictions make sense. What's next?

Best action game. Cuphead, Destiny 2, Neo, prey, Wolfenstein 2. Yo, this gets hard. Yeah, right? I don't think Destiny 2. Really?

Yeah. I mean, again, these are all quality amazing games. I'm not taking away anything. I just, I mean, we're, for me, best action game, we're down to immediately cup head, Wolfenstein. Knowing the people voting, I don't think they're going to vote for Destiny 2. So, do you think it deserves it? Uh, I mean, I feel like Destiny 2 deserve something. That's why I mean, you should have voted for best multiplayer with me, been on the right side of history, but, uh, but looking at this, let's see, Cuphead. How don't think Cuphead gets this? I think Cuphead gets independent. game. I think Wolfenstein too.

This is where you, you honor Wolfenstein. Because it is a great action game. It is. Let's fucking dual wheel. Let's run. People love the story. People love the combat.

This gets hard because I haven't played Wolfensstein. Oh, I love Wolfensstein. But I beat the fuck out of Cuphead. And what my, what I would vote for is Cuphead, undeniably.

Sure. Like, it is definitely, it is a perfect action game. Yeah. But, Yeah, fuck. Prediction wise.

It's a great place to honor Wolfenstein as well. Prediction. Wolfensstein. But yeah, my vote is Cuffet. Okay. My vote is Wolfensine. My prediction is Wolfenstein.

Best VR slash AR game. Farpoint, Lone Echo, Reson Evil 7, Byron hazard. Star Trek bridge crew, super hot VR. Look at

the fucking PlayStation VR over here. Just gobbling them up. Gobble, gobble, gobble, motherfucker. I voted Resonable That's my vote. Yep.

My vote and prediction. I think the thing about that of why I, I mean, don't even wrong. Kevin, I heard you shout out Lone Echo, right? We really liked Lone Echo's Echo Arena multiplayer. We went and did a let's play that. Totally didn't work, but it was amazing to play and really fun. The reason Resident Evil 7 will, though, is just penetration. And not to mention the fact that it's the first VR game I played where I was like,

I want to play more. I played hours and hours and hours. I mean, dude, the reason to me it's Resident Evil 7 is this game was announced last year at E3, a sequel to Resident Evil that's going back to horror. We're going to switch it to first person that's PT inspired. There's also VR. This is the answer of, hey, this is a real VR game.

It's not an experience. It's a game, and it's a Resident Evil game. It's a proper Resident Evil game. And then it succeeded, and then it worked. Like, that's, I can't believe it. Totally deserves it. Agreed. Best handheld game.

This is so easy. Ever oasis, Final Meko, Shadows of Valencia. Metroid Samus Returns, Monster Hunter Stories, Pucci and Yoshi's Willie World. It's Metroed Samus Returns. Yeah. I mean, this is one I'd abstain from, but I would predict Metroid, just because, again, everybody played it. And it was great.

Yeah. Eversus wasn't for me. Monster Hunter Stories, I didn't play. I beat the other three, and it's clearly Metroid. Okay. Like, Fire Omblamechos is just more Fire Emblem, and that's fine, but it's like a remake of Guyton, and I didn't really like the added dungeon crawling that they did.

And then Pucci and Yoshi's World World was just, more woolly world that I don't think really worked on the 3DS. It couldn't really keep up. Gotcha. And also Metro's Amos Returns was great. Best mobile game. Fire emblem heroes. Hidden folks.

Monument Valley 2. Old Man's journey. Super Mario run. Ah, man. I don't really have a vote here. I would abstain here too. I played more Fire Amblin heroes than any others. But like even that,

it just didn't grab me the way that I'd expect a fire emblem game to. The whole gotcha stuff isn't really for me. I might have old man journey on here. I haven't played any other ones too. Mario run. I wouldn't really give it to that. No, I do have the old man's journey on here, which I, yeah, I saw at a preview event, liked a lot, got it downloaded and then never played it. Because I just don't play mobile games unless it's Animal Crossing and I have to pay $3.99 for some fucking tickets.

I'm going to predict Firebloom Heroes. Why? There's a lot of people in the industry that love it and play it every day. Really? Yeah. I don't know that. Alexa. Right Korea is addicted to it.

Okay. Anybody else or just Alexa? There's other people. Okay. Recent era is all about it. Okay. Yeah, I really don't. I don't have enough information to even purchase anything.

Best independent game. Cuphead. Hellblade. Sinewa's sacrifice. Night in the woods, pyre. What remains of Eat is the Finch? Hoondogie. What a great year for games.

What a great year. You want to talk about a fucking category right there? The answer is Cuphead. The answer is Cuphead and my prediction is Cuphead. All these games are amazing. I know Hellblade's going to come up here in a few more conversations. And that's why I think it's a show. I mean, Night in the Woods people loved.

I started myself beating it. Pire, I know a lot of people love. Pire, I would say, has a shot. Hellblade has a shot. Pire has a shot. But I feel like Cuphead is on another level good of what people want. On a level, another level good. And on another level of just like nailing it, fucking knocking it out of the park and trying something fucking cool and different.

You can't look at that game and not be interested in it. Yeah. Agreed. Best ongoing game. Destiny 2. Grand Theft Auto Online. Overwatch. Playroom in battlegrounds, rainbow six siege, warframe.

Another tough category. It is tough. It's not Warframe. It's not rainbow six siege. Agreed. agreed. It's not. Oh, I don't know. I don't think it's destiny too. People won't give it to destiny two. People won't give it to GT online. Really? I don't think no. I think that's, even though it probably is the best ongoing game, I don't think. I mean, I'm voting for and predicting player on Nunn Battlegrounds, but I feel like GTA is going to have more juice behind it than you think it does. Because here's the thing. This is the chance to tip your hat to GTA online. And even if you don't play it, haven't touched it, like we have. We have. it until very recently when we started doing stuff party mode I think the next week by the time you see us Patreon.com such kind of funny games uh you've been getting the press releases you've been seeing the

statistics you've been seeing at the top the npd numbers like my my thing is my vote goes to gta online interesting but i think that battlegrounds wins um i agree i mean i don't know overwatch though but i think what did we give overwatch earlier nothing yeah i gave it to something Oh, best e-sports game, but that's voted by the people. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, my vote is GT Online. There's just so much that they're out of the game, we've just been doing all those lots plays, and they're so varied.

Today I got a press release of, hey, like the evil can evil that fits in here for like four days. If you logged in, I've got a bonus of money, I'm like, fuck, I might play this over break too. And then, yeah, predicting player on non-battle rounds wins. Games for impact. Bury me, my love. Hellblade's newest sacrifice. Life is strange before the storm. Night in the woods.

Please knock on my door. What remains of you to Finch? I feel like this is a little weighted towards Hellblade. I think Hellblade's gonna win. Yeah. I haven't played any of these games. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm not gonna vote.

I haven't played Barry Me, My Love, and I haven't played, please knock on my door. I'm voting for Hellblade, and I'm predicting Hellblade. Hellblade is a very special game. And this is somebody who played a little bit of Hellblade, but then watched Jen play the platinum Hellblade. In terms of it wrestles with mental illness in a way video games don't. And not only does it wrestle with this and show this and talk about this,

it does it in this weird, like, tribal setting. It doesn't do it in, you know, a night in the woods or night in the woods. I keep saying, A night in the woods is very much like a coming home story, but you're a cat, but that doesn't really matter to it, right? It is like dealing with all these different things of coming home. Life is strange. I love. It's, as I keep saying, there's no business being as good as it is.

I'm fucking in. I love Chloe in it. What remains of Ethan Finch, another great game that I enjoyed playing and had a great time with. I don't think it's all that people have made it out to be in terms of narrative. Playing it and enjoying it knocked out of the park. I'm not saying anything about that. Just Hellblade's doing something and shining a light in a really unique way and

just being really awesome. And that's, in addition to that also being such a rarity of being a, like, double a game. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. And ninja theory putting this out basically as an independent, but not real. You know what I mean?

Like independent. They had the, who published it? I forget. Doesn't matter. Best performance. Ashley Birch as Aloy in Horizon Zero of Dawn. Brian Bloom as B.J. Blascoitz in Wolfenstein 2.

Claudia Black as Chloe Frazier in Uncharted Lost Legacy. Laura Bailey as Nadine in Uncharted Lost Legacy and Molina Juergens as Sanua in Hellblade. My vote is Helwit again, Melina. She's, it's an interesting one of she works at the studio and isn't an actress, but she's in this game and she's awesome, these facial expressions. And again, the performance she delivers of dealing with these voices in her head, dealing with the head on her belts, the way they wrestle. It's a really amazing performance there that, again, and this is what we're talking about before, or even in all these categories that are all awesome,

but like you know Claudia Black's awesome, you know Laura Bailey's awesome, you know Brian Bloom's awesome, you know Ashley's awesome. It's like, here's this person nobody fucking knew about last year, coming on just knocking it out of the park and doing this amazing performance.

Yeah. I didn't play Hellblade, so I can't speak to that. I don't think that I necessarily think any of these performances are mind-blowing to me, so like I wouldn't vote in this. Okay. But I predict

Like you're making a good case For Hellblade for sure But I predict it's going to be Ashley as Aloy Really? Because I think that that is such a huge Step for her Even though like she's had other things in the past

That people know And I think she's even won things for I think that this is a big step for her As a huge AAA 100% no Again she killed it Loved her in it We love you, Ashley.

Return our cult. Best audio design. Destiny 2. Hellblade, Resident Evil 7, Mario Odyssey, Legends, Zelda, Breath of the Wild. Now,

here's where it gets interesting. My personal pick is Hellblade again. I haven't, I can't remember a game off top of my head in least in AAA or I'm sorry,

in console space. That starts and is like, this is best played with headphones. And you're like, why? And then it takes, it uses 360 degrees, He's not of a pebble falls behind you turn and look, but of like people whispering in your ears and getting your back, the hair on the back of your neck to stand up.

However, that said, Destiny 2's soundtrack and score is obscenely good. Well, this isn't for that, though. This is just audio design. Oh, you're right. I'm sorry. You're right. You're 100% right. So everything I just said about Destiny saved for the next category.

Yeah. So then, yeah, I definitely is audio design for me is the sound. I'm going to use this differently. So I also predict Helmut because like, like, these. other games, I just don't get it. I mean, Resident Evil 7, sure, it is, is great. Destiny, though, the audio design, that Bungie's always great with sounds and like the weight of weapons and stuff and the way everything sounds. So it's like, Destiny 2 is a great answer. Hellblade because of what you're saying, the thing is, did enough people play Hellblade? See, my thing about

it is, I think enough people, enough people played Hellblade that when IGN has this discussion or whoever, you know, troop of people X played this, the people who played it will be vocal enough. Because I'm the same way of like, what I just said, right? Like, spoiler, it's best score in music is up next. I vote Destiny too. But audio design, it's like, what does audio design mean? Like, what does that actually mean?

Like, sound effects are where they should be, the voice act, and this is the score of, yeah. And when you're putting it between music and performance, you're clearly talking about the construction of it. And the construction of Hellblade sound, is something different, special and awesome. Yeah, I'll predict it. You won me over.

Thanks, buddy. Cool, Greg, how's that game over there? You son of a bitch. He's making up stories. You're making up stories. You're not downloading at all. Bring me your phone. I'll download it for you.

Get in there, cool, Greg. Come stand right here and play Animal Crossing behind us. Best score slash music. Cuphead, Destiny 2, Near Persona 5, Mario Odyssey, Zelda Breath of the Wild. So you put Destiny 2. 100%. Does he do has a great score.

Yeah. Cuphead has fantastic music throughout the entire thing. And I want to give a shout out to it because all the vocal tracks are so authentic. All just all the music, every boss fight, every all that's, it's great. But I don't think it's that much to write home about in terms of just music, the art direction, which we'll get to later, definitely. But just the music, nah. Persema 5, not familiar enough with it. Perseudo 5.

you love the score and soundtrack is awesome. Zelda, but the Wild is interesting. I'm not going to give it to it because it's way too sparse and there's not enough going on which is by design because there is two moments.

I mean, first off, the theme to Breath of the Wild is so iconic. And like, I'm Zelda and I need you help. Hey, help me, it's got me. What do we do?

It's a corgan. It's so moving and it reminds you the game anytime you hear even just a blip of it. And that's great. I really can't remember it. Really? Yeah.

I mean, if you heard it, you would probably. Yeah. And then towards the end of the game, the use of the score in Zelda is so great, where the whole game hasn't had that much music. And as you're going up, the Hyrule Castle, the fucking theme kicks in. Like the proper Zelda theme. I'm like, this is epic. But yeah, I wouldn't give it to that.

Mario, man, Mario has, Mario soundtracks are always next level. There's so much thought and love put into the orchestration and every little element of the soundtracks. Yeah. And I think that Mario Odyssey really, like, Galaxy fucking took it into, into space. And Galaxy soundtrack is unfuck with the ball. It's so epic and grand and perfect.

I feel like Odyssey has a lot of those same moments. But in addition to that, it also has a good balance of the more retro style stuff with the two-de-side scrolling and the festival song and some other. New Donk Cities end song is the one you think of. And that's why I give it to. to Odyssey. Wow. I think that it deserves it.

Is that your prediction to win? My prediction to win and. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Here's why I think Destiny 2 wins. As you said, everybody knows Bungi does great scores, great music.

When you are in the final throws of Destiny 2, like those final missions, the game ramps up. And these are the final story missions ramps up. And there's a moment of you, I believe you're coming up this like giant elevator. And the score. swells and does all this crazy shit

and you get up there and it's like this beautiful colorful room kind of like think of like Thor's bridge right you haven't seen really in this game and it's I've played that mission myself I've played it with other people helping them pull through at the end of the game

I was like to myself holy shit this is awesome in playing with other people everyone who did it was like what the this is amazing and so if you went that far with Destiny 2 where a lot of people did check out. All right, I beat the campaign.

I'm done. One of your final memories is how great that sounded and how great that felt. And those, even as some of you plays still, not religiously, but plays over and over again, light level 300 right now. What, I have no big deal. Two trophies for platinum. No big deal. I think that resonates with you.

And I think it also speaks to something you mentioned earlier in this of, well, where do we recognize them? Yeah. I think this is where you recognize them. You say, all right, this is where I'm going to give destiny the nod and the vote. I think that the festival, because they made that. song works so well in game and making such a triumphant moment that when you talk to people about Mario Odyssey, they name that moment every single time.

Sure. As one of their favorites. I think it's in people's minds. My thing is, I guess it's the tale of two cities here in the way that with destiny, I have that moment at the end, but I also remember being impressed other times. Whereas with Mario, I have New Dog Cities ending, but I don't have outside of that a time when I was like, holy shit. No, and the game's great, but I'm not.

a point where I was like, holy fuck. Like a great example is, you know, we were flying two or from Maryland now, I forget. And Jen got to New Dog City, that part there, right? And it started up and she wasn't wearing headphones. And I hit her power button. I plugged in her headphones. I put them on, like, you have to listen to this. But outside of that, as I think a lot of people probably do, play Mario, watch TV,

not worry about the soundtrack, because it is just Mario. No offense. Which is just one of the best games ever made. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I'm sure a lot of people play Destiny that way, too. fucking bullshit watching sports Best art direction

Cuphead Destiny 2 Horizon Zero Dawn persona 5 Zelda Breath of Wild Fuck The answer is Cuphead I vote for Cuphead And I predict Cup it's gonna win Me too

But damn I mean Destiny 2 I don't really think belongs In league with these people Destiny I mean Destiny is clearly The strong number 5 there Yeah exactly It's a good looking game

Like I said there's beautiful things There's yeah It's destiny too But Horizon, oh my God. The art direction in that game is gorgeous and everything works and the character models and outfits and everything. It works so well. Persona 5 over the top, super stylish. The thing about persona 5 where it's like not a dark horse,

but I think has a better shot than we might make it out to be is the fact that it's not just the game looks beautiful. It's the way like, I remember the first time we saw those menus and it was like, holy shit, they took the aesthetic they're building with the dialogue and the. the audio and they put it into the menus even of everything sliding in how joyous it is to win a battle and do the boodoo do in like walk and the like they fucking kill it in a heart direction there which is why I don't think you can look past it however cup head is a throwback fucking cartoon but my thing with the cup head is to everything you just said about persona I think also applies to cup head oh I'm voting cup head cup head immediately gets that that that grab of like

this is crazy but then the way that they commit in every little aspect of the game I think that it easily wins this one for him but Agreed. Then Breath of Wild also, I want to give a shout out to it. It's like they did a great job building that world visually and making everything feel right with the watercolory look and effects. And it's something special too. But yeah, cuphead for sure. Best narrative.

Hellblades, newest sacrifice, Horizon Zero Dawn, Near Automata, What Remains of Edith Finch and Wolfensign 2, the new Colossus. This is another one I'm probably going to not vote in because I haven't played near. And everyone talks about that story being so damn good. Yeah. What do I pretend? Here's the one I haven't played on the list. My vote, I'm doubting as I have it on here.

I highlighted on this Wolfenstein too. But Horizon Zero Dawn is so good. Yeah. So good. And again, how do you recognize a game that isn't probably going to win game in the year you'd figure in terms of people voting?

Like if I'm filling out a ballot. Because I remember Horizon Zero Dawn, the Horizon Zero Dawn, the thing being when we came back to talk about it and I was like, I can't believe how good this story was and that I was actually invested. You know what? Yeah, I'm voting Horizon Zero Dawn. Really? I just flip-flop for that much. Oh, man. I'm a next Tarpino on this one.

I don't think Horizon Zero Don has a chance compared to these. I think the people that like Hellblade are going to really rock for Hellblade. The people that played near are going to vote for Near. The question is, are there enough of them? But I think everyone, I think it's, I agree. I understand where you're coming from. But again, with the people who are voting on, this isn't the audience.

This is games, journos and stuff. I feel it's going to be Horizon or Wolfenstein. And I think Wolfensstein's got a great story of BJ Blascoitz. It actually, that's the thing too, is like there's, I guess we're talking,

I'm already down, I'm doubting this thing. Between Wolfenstein and Horizon, the question comes down to, you talk about, Wolfenstein too. You talk about that opening flashback that I won't spoil for people. You talk about going forward and the holy shit I can't believe they did that moments and the turning points they give you there and the fact that they make you care about BJ Blaskowitz, who is just this

meathead guy, right? That was just a face in the original Wolfensline like HUD or whatever. Then Horizon is the idea that all right cool, guerrillas making an open world RPG kind of game, action game with climbing and stuff like that. We'll see how the story goes, but the story is actually interesting, is coherent, and I don't mean that in an insulting way, but just how many games get out of the things, right? Like, I remember doing the main missions,

I'm like, fuck, I have to keep doing these. I have to know what happens. Not to mention the fact of how great guerrilla is in Horizon Zero Dawn of world building. And I think this is why I'm going to vote Horizon Zero Dawn on this, is the fact that it's not just the main story that's great. It is me finding the messages from people and then wanting to know more about them.

It is basically all those. It's like Last of Us 2 with the Ishmael story where I find these characters that I don't even know, but I want to keep following what happened to them and how this all went. And I care about the current timeline I'm in in Horizon Zero Dawn, but I care about the secondary one just as much. Yeah. I feel like just from hearing people talk about games and reading about and scene forms and stuff that I don't think Horizon story is something that is really talked about a lot.

Like that's just a thing in a great game. So because of that, I'm going to predict, Because I feel like it's between near and Wolfenstein. And I think it really comes down to if enough people play near. I'm going to predict near just for the fuck of it. Keep things interesting. Spice it up, I say. You know what I mean?

All right. Two more to go. Best game direction. Horizon Zero Dawn. Reson Evil 7. Mario Odyssey. Zelda Breath of Wild. Wolfensstein 2, New Colosses.

I think that my vote and the winner is Zelda. How do you classify games? direction. It, the sum of all the parts. I think it's the direction of the game. Yeah. That's how you define things, isn't it? It's, no, it's like, like the, the overall vision for the game.

I would go Zelda with an honorable mention to Horizon. I don't think Wolfenside 2 is in the conversation. I agree. I'm going to vote, I'm going to vote her. Or Zelda, I'm sorry. I'm going to go Zelda with you. And I think that, yeah, I think we're both predicting then that that wins. because I think that is a great

game direction talks about all the mechanics of the game on top of the direction the game's going but I think it is how everything comes together and how you make it. It's going to be an open world Zelda. What the fuck does that mean? Well it means that you're going to find food and you're going to cook it and means that you're going to be able to skate

down the sides here. It's not I don't think, I think direction in Game of the Year are separate categories and I think that's part of it but I mean in terms of holding everything together in a way that is different and brand new, right? Because Horizon is, okay, it's open world. Resident Evil is, okay, it's Resident Evil. Wolfensign is the first person shooter. Super Mario is the, you know,

spiritual successor to Galaxy and 64 and all that. How do you make that modern? Yeah. Whereas Zelda is, how do you make a brand new Zelda, but still be Zelda? How do you make Zelda brand new, but still be Zelda? That's impressive. Yeah. And then finally, game of the year, Horizon Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Player unknowns battlegrounds, Mario Odyssey, or Legends of Zelda, Breath of the Wild. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. To me.

Yeah. I didn't play persona five. But looking at these, this is probably like what I am debating in my head of what my personal game of the years as well. Cuphead I probably would put there as well. But Cuphead wouldn't win overall. playing on Battlegrounds. I love it. It wouldn't win.

It's between Mario and Horizon I freaking love, but compared to Mario and Zelda, I personally don't think that it's on that caliber. Like I see those as tens and I see Horizon as nine. Great year for video games. Dude, 2017.

Mario and Zelda, man, it's tough and I feel like I can flip up. I feel like I could give it to either and be happy with that decision. But I do think, at the end of the day, I'm a Mario guy. I love Zelda, but I'm not a Zelda guy. Like I said earlier, I've beaten almost every Zelda game ever made, and I enjoy so many of them.

But I've 100%ed almost every Mario game, and I go back to them. And I could tell you the differences between little things here and there. And like, I really care. So like the little Easter eggs and references and everything Odyssey does is geared towards me. Having said that, Zelda blew me the fuck away. Zelda added so much conversation and so much. How do you do this? Did you do that? And I know Mario Odyssey has that as well, but it's different. I think that Zelda is special because it starts you off. You can go wherever you want. There's five physics-based powers you have. Everything in the game is based around those. Go. It has its shortcomings for sure. The story is not there. And there's only four dungeons and they all look very similar. To me, those are all minor things that didn't get in the world. way of this game being perfect.

As perfect as perfect can be for it. Of course, of course. And I definitely think that Zelda, Breath of Wild, is the game of the year. Mario Odyssey might be the best Mario game ever made. And that's crazy. But I still feel like as much of a success as it is, it's just a perfect Mario game. It's not so stupid to say. But that's the thing with this year is that that's, you know, for me,

leading up to all this, right? It was Horizon and Zelda the top of the list. And I could make a case for either one. I can make a case for either one right now to be game of the year. But Horizon was my vote. And then Mario came in. And I thought Mario just leapfrog them both.

And that's crazy for a year to have three games where I can sit there and totally be like, I see, well, and even with Persona 5 is a stretch, I think, for me personally to make game of the year. Amazing game, I know, but go ahead and Tarant with me. But you can, and even PubG.

I can make a case for any one of these ones to be game of the year. But my pick, my vote right now is Super Mario Odyssey. And I go back, thank you, Kevin. I go back to the fact of Super Mario Odyssey is 100% joy. Like for me, there was never a moment of, what am I supposed to see here? What am I going to? Or like, who, because like in Zelda, and I love Zelda, and I'm not saying anything away from Zelda, there is a definitive moment I remember of like when the fucking, I remember this moment.

I can't remember the moment. But when the one guy in the one town is trying to impress the girl and he wants like 100 crickets or some bullshit like that. And I was just like, uh, all right. And I was like running around. It was this moment of like, man, what the fuck do I do now? Like what do I? And I was like, I'll do that later.

But then it was, well, if I don't do that now, what do I do? Like, where do I go? What do I need to do? And you like, you run around and like, that's the game. It's open. Find the next thing to do. Blah, blah, blah. I don't need my hand held.

But it was this moment of I was on a plane. I was like, well, I really just want to do something. but now I'm going to try to figure out where to run and what direction defines something to do. Yeah. And on a normal, I enjoyed that game, I love that game.

It wasn't, I'm talking about the minorist of gripes here, but that's what we're down to the miniscual details. Whereas with Mario, it is, holy shit, this is going to take me 45 minutes and complete. I'm totally in for that,

or I'm not, or I just want to get some moons or I want to just get some stickers today. Or, you know, I mean, like, I feel like Mario and Zelda, to me are,

inverted where Mario's campaign, whatever you want to call it, and post game, I had such different feelings about. Playing through the campaign, I'm like, wow, this is really good. But then I got to the post game, it's like, okay, here we fucking go. Zelda is the

opposite where it's like, playing into the campaign, I'm like, oh my God, like the story critical missions are so fucking cool, so fucking awesome. That story, or that, not story, that experience is amazing. Then when we got to the post stuff, I'm like, I don't need to get every turn. Yeah. I need to you get every moon, you know.

Yep. But that's because I'm a Mario guy, not a zombie guy. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I, I, no, totally is. Well, Colin, Kevin, you going to get in your mic, but I, I don't, I, going back to it. But I think this, the key to this is, I think shrines are better than moons. I think that the shrines, especially in the, well, I mean, I guess you, it's, it's all depending on where, how you play it.

Sure. But in my mission critical, going through Zelda, getting shrines. discovering them, finding them, figuring out that one, the puzzle of that shrine is more consistently satisfying than getting moons. So many of the moons, it's just mechanical things of like, okay, I need to do this to get there. And I mean, the fact that there's a thousand goddamn moons means that you are doing a whole bunch of different things. But I feel like there's a lot more filler moons than there was shrines, even if a lot of the

shrines were the battle, whatever. But I liked battling. thing was fun. Yeah. Okay. Kevin. So I am not like a Mario guy. I mean, I like Mario, like, as I think everyone that plays games and, like, now, you know,

grew up with that as, like, in the beginning of what they were doing. But, man, I might 100% this game, just because I'm enjoying it so much. I'm at 481 moons right now. Wow. Yeah, and it's, I don't want to stop. You're close to that five, Honda. Yeah, man, I can see, like, it's, oh, it's so exciting. And when it comes to Breath of the Wild, I have never played a Zelda game before.

Holy shit, I fell in love with that game. I wanted to play it nonstop, but once I got all my stars or my hearts and was able to pull the Master's sword, But like getting the, like, I didn't feel as like I needed to go and get, go all, get all these temples. Yeah. And growing up a Sega kid, I don't have, I didn't have an affinity for Mario or Zelda until Mario Super Mario World, really Super Mario 64 even, I guess. And then Zelda with Ocarena Time. And I think I would have told you I was more, I lean more Zelda than I do Mario for the most part. but like this game I just felt like Mario Odyssey I just feels I'm right there with Kev of like where I guess that's the thing that I'm giving it points for is the fact that if I get when I get dropped back to Zeldon when the DLC drops it's going to be very much like fuck what was I doing? Who do have what weapons?

Whereas with Mario, I do feel like, cool, I'm going to put Mario down for a month. And so I fly back or I fly out east for Christmas. And then I'm going to pick it back up and be like, how do I do the long jump? Got long jump. I'm ready to go. Let's find some moons. See, but I feel like that's kind of why I'm signing with Zelda on this because it is a little bit deeper. There is a bit more than I think when the DLC comes, it's going to, they know what they're doing.

I imagine. And they're going to, it feels like it's going to be more similar to something like under nightmare or whatever. where they're you'll everything you need to know you'll have to experience again in the champion's ballot dLC the first dlc back that came out that's what you're talking about where it's like jumping in not on what the fuck you're doing if you aren't ingrained in the zelda world but i feel like mario is just it is so simple because it's mario that's the point right um here i'm sorry go ahead if you um go go for my counter to that would be and again these are both amazing games near

perfect. Yeah. My counter would be, I don't know if Zelda's more complicated. I do think it's more convoluted. I don't. I mean, like,

I know that I, like, if I got, if I was, pick back up Zelda right now and run right in. And it was the battle, the old laser eye guys and get to get out of the shrine. It'd be like,

all right, cool. I want to get out the blue sword that I have, or master sword to fire this thing. But it would be the thing of, like I've talked to you about one of the reasons I, I vote, uh,

Mario over Zelda is the fact that Mario is, like I said, joy, I'm not frustrated at any point where I would be frustrated with Zelda, where I'd do something to throw it. And I throw my weapon. I'm like, no, that's not what are the buttons? What is the control scheme? I get frustrated with Mario a lot in the post game moons.

Like some of those are fucking hard, but it's good frustration. Yeah. I'm frustrated in the way. It's great frustration. But again, because I think the Mario controls are so simple. I,

similar to what you're talking about where you have the five powers or whatever in Zelda, I know I have the tools to do it. And that, But that is the thing with Mario. With Mario, I don't like when you add the cap stuff. I can't believe I'm fine against Mario right now. This is insane. I love that though.

It's great when it is and then it's not when it's not. But it's like for me it was the New Dong City Moon where I was at the top of the building. I looked over there. I'm like, oh, I can get to that far off one that's a death trap. If I do the moon, jump to the thing, jump off. I'm sorry. Jump in's great. Jump into mobility.

You're talking about throwing the cap. Oh, you're talking with a gimmick of. Oh, my apologies. I feel like it ranges on when it's fun to control the enemies and when it's not fun to control the enemies and the certain like I don't want to spoil things there's there's whatever there's certain characters that just don't function the way that you think that they would and I it's still fucking great but it's like I feel like it's not super pick up and play and it's not it is just as convoluted and adds extra

shit as Zelda does Zelda that has a lot of weird shit and like all the cooking and all this stuff it's like it was fun in the moment I going back I don't ever want to cook again yeah you know yeah but I just feel like Mario is the type of game that I'll play forever until I beat it and then it's done. Whereas Zelda, I did stop. I didn't get all the shrines even. I didn't keep going but it's like, I feel like... But game of the year, huh? That's fine though.

I mean, you don't, I feel like game of the year doesn't mean you need to platinum it. You don't need 100%. But that's the thing. I'm not a huge like I don't play games. I mean, I do but I want to keep playing Mario and I'm gonna because those little moments as dumb as they

are like, okay, I had to jump to go get this thing like damn at the end of it, I felt so much satisfaction. It was like, fuck yeah. At the end, once I finished Zelda and the story mode was, the story was done, I didn't find any drive to, like, continue to do stuff. So for me, like, that's why it's just like,

I'm gonna play Zelda next year. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm gonna play Mario next year. And that's why I think for me, it's my game of the year. Yeah, I don't know. I guess to me, it's just, I feel like the post-game stuff and how long you're playing and all this stuff.

It's more, I, I've played Mario games. I've played Mario 3D world and how amazing some of the level design is and the challenges. And it's like with Mario, it's like it's just more Mario. It's not just more Mario. It's more amazing Mario. Whereas Zelda, it's, there's nothing

I've experienced like it. Sure. What in its story and it's good. And it's, I just feel like once the game ends, cool. I feel like we're going to have this conversation again come game in year. So we should put a pin in this. Yes. You're, you'd vote Zelda. I would vote Mario. I predict Zelda.

So we're predicting now. That's what I'm getting down to. Here's what gets very fascinating about this choice. Is that I feel like there is a lot of juice behind Horizon. Like there are, there's a good number of people who think Horizon is an amazing game and should be Game of the Year as well. I wonder if Mario and Zelda split the vote and then let either Horizon or Persona 5 come up.

Both those, I think, are going to be dark horse choices and have a lot of people behind them. And that's where it gets really interesting. This is the one, I feel like the rest of them, I think it's very easy to say, this is going to win or this is going to win. Whereas with this one, I could easily see, they could announce any of these games. And I could even PubG, they could announce any of these games and people can be like, why? And it's going to be like, well, it was such an amazing fucking year.

And you can make a case for any one of these games that everybody went one way on one outlet, everybody went another way over here. The split in the vote between Mario and Zelda is very interesting. And that's where it gets really fucking crazy. crazy of what happens if that happens. And because then it is, like you talked about it. Like it's outlets and it's streamers and it's YouTube channels and it's all the stuff. So let's check the fact that like, you know, how even on kind of funny games daily,

there's this never ending argument of like should PubG even be nominated? Like I again, it's 2017. I feel people are going to be like PubG's game beat. Nobody put more hours into things. Nobody enjoyed games more. Nobody blah, blah, blah. It changed. It's this indie game that came out of nowhere and did all this.

PubG is in the running for this in a real way too. Like, I really do feel like game in the year is too close to call. Yeah. If I had to predict, I'm going to predict Zelda. Because I do think, I feel like going, I think Zelda, one of the strengths of Zelda is the fact that it came out early. From the moment it came out, everyone was like, this is revolutionary. And we've had close to a year, nine months or whatever to build the narrative of like,

holy shit, this game was incredible. Yeah. And so even though Mario is incredible, it's coming in late being incredible. Like we expect it to be incredible because it goes against itself though because like I feel like there's been enough time since Zelda that there's a lot of people. It's not as good as you think it is. Yeah. Like, you know, because it's like the tide shift and it's easy to be like when it first came out,

this is the best Zelda ever. And then people like, it's not the best Zelda ever. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's the splitting vote thing would happen between Mario and Zelda because I feel like at the end of the day, if you enjoy one of those games, you probably enjoy the other. And I imagine a lot of outlets having this same conversation. Yeah.

Where it's like, yeah, I am totally fine with either of those games. I think both of them deserve it. We'll see. You'll see. Your prediction is Zelda. My prediction is Zelda as well, but I'm not going to be shocked if Persona 5 pops up and all of a sudden he has it. Imagine Prisona 5. Guy game of the fucking year.

I mean, again, it's the point of they're all, I mean, like, you know, how often do you see, with all due respect, Ashley Jenkins tweeting about a PlayStation exclusive? You know what I mean? She was all over Persona 5 to the point that I think. I remember her going back and playing persona. she bought a Vita to play persona for Golden after the fact. I might be confusing those facts. Kind of funny.com slash you're wrong.

Just kidding. I won't look at it. Ashley just call me. All right. Well, let us know in the comments what you think the game of the year will be,

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