Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - The Quarry Spoilercast - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:07 What's up everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast, the Quarry Spoiler cast. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller, alongside Christmas in June. Joey Noel. Hello. How's it going, Joe? You're on the marathon with me right now. I am. Every show, we're doing everything today. How are you feeling? You got one more after this. I got McDonald's Diet Coke, which really just cures everything, so I'm feeling great. Diet Coke. I can't deal with the taste. You know what I mean? Just can't do it. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:00:35 whenever. Forbes 30 under 30, aka the future class of video games, aka the OK Beast, blessing. Eddie O. Yake, Jr. At a weird moment last night where I was like, man, thank God the week is coming to an end. And then it dawned on me that it was only Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And then it dawned on me that I am working through the weekend because we were flying to LA and doing summer games fest stuff. And that goes into Sunday when we do a React, and that goes into another week of content. And I'm already tired. Yeah, you should look ahead and take some days off. You should catch up that.
Starting point is 00:01:05 we can't. But Summer Game Fest leaves no one with any time for days off. Isn't that right? Master of hype. Snowbike, Mike. No days off when you're running from Evildoers. And I am ready to spoil this video game and they go take a hike through the woods, maybe run through the woods, just like our camp counselor. If you didn't know, ladies you gentlemen, this is your spoiler cast for the quarry. Remember, it is SGF week, Summer Game Fest week, meaning, of course, that you already got a quarry review from the games cast. You got the reaction, of course, to Summer Game Fest stream yesterday as a show that went up. This is a time warp for us. We're recording this before summer game fest happens, but you know how it goes. And then today, of course, you're getting yes, the Corey spoiler
Starting point is 00:01:42 cast that you can listen to whenever you want to. If you haven't beaten it yet, we would highly recommend not listening yet. If you don't care, I guess you could listen. And then mainly you can keep this little time capsule whenever you get the chance to say, hey, I beat the Corey and I want to go hear how other people's games went. You could come here. But I'm not even done promoting our stuff. Remember Sunday the Xbox Bethesda showcase is popping off. We'll be reacting live on Twitch.tv.com slash kind of funny games. And afterwards, we will do the kind at funny gamescast post show live that will go up of course as podcasts and everything else so if your podcast feed is just being assaulted right now with games casts it is not ending anytime soon
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Starting point is 00:03:01 Xbox on Sunday. Thank you to our Patreon. producers, Gordon McGuire, Fargo, Brady, Tyler Ross, Delaney, twinning, first responder, ND, Olive Party from the KF community discord, Julian the Gluten Free Gamer, Alex Jay Sandoval, Casey Andrew, James Hastings. Today we're brought to you by Mi Undies and Chime, but we will tell you about that later for now. Let's officially begin the spoiler cast for the quarry.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Remember, you should have beaten the quarry at least once by now. The gloves are off. We're going to all talk about everything that happened in our games. We're going to have fun, but this is your final chance to get out. Mike Howard, I want to start with you. You've been all talk about how you had to sleep with the lights on, the ESPN turned up, the game scared, the bejesus out of you. For you, how did the quarry end?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Who lived, who died, what happened? Oh, that's a great question, Greg. You know what? I think a lot more people lived than died on my playthrough, which I was very pleased with. We talked about it in the review, that kind of death rewind sequence. And actually, I kept a couple stored in my back pocket
Starting point is 00:04:02 for the later part of the game. I only used one early on Emma just because I didn't like the situation that was put in. It was actually I was out on the island. I saw either investigate a bag, maybe put on some new clothes or go up into the treehouse, which was a bad idea. So I lost her early. And I said, quick rewined on that. That didn't happen for me.
Starting point is 00:04:21 So what I had closed and eventually opened the thing, but like I didn't get killed there. Wait, can I guess? Did you fall to your death after missing the? No, I got that blast. I said that you saw that. Nice. So no, actually what happens there is if you, of course, enjoy the prologue and you find out what are two best friends, Skyler, aka Max, and Laura were up to earlier in the beginning of the game.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Are they best friends? Their boyfriend, girlfriends, yeah, yeah. But what actually happens is Laura and Skyler come back to Camp Hatchet. She puts Skyler up in the treehouse because it's surrounded by water. So when he becomes werewolf form, he won't kill anybody. So when Emma goes there by herself, he's banging up on top of the tree house. And so I open it up and he'll jump down and immediately murder you. No questions asked there.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But see, I opened it up and he jumped down and I was able to run from him. So what you did, Greg, is you investigated first. You probably got the bear spray and the taser. And then you're allowed to do the dance with him. If you don't do that, he'll kill you right away. Gotcha. So I kept that in my pocket. I saw you in Slack.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You were like, oh, man, I used my death rewind to put me really far back. So I had two in my pocket for the very end game where we make our final stand. And I used them both on Brenda's song because I really wanted her to survive. Sorry, girl, you're a popsicle now. She froze to death in the freezer. Dang. See, and I like that. I did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Of course, I think, you know, we've all, and I shouldn't say, of course. Mike, I'm right there with you. Caitlin played by Brenda Song, my favorite character in the game. Joey, does that track for you? Bless, does that track for you? Or do you have other favorites? No, my favorite was Dylan. Ask me Dylan.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah. I could call out. I mean, I of course love Brenda Song, but I think as far as character, I flow between I actually, I'll probably go aside on Dylan.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I think Dylan, Dylan followed by Caitlin. Then Mike, I'm with you. The Caitlin was at the top of my list. And my Caitlin died as well, but didn't die that way. My Caitlin died is that I had the showdown
Starting point is 00:06:20 with David Arquette's son, Werewolf, little boy, werewolf, right? And Dylan went to hide. I stayed to fight because I had the silver bullet
Starting point is 00:06:27 from Emma, and Abby in the surveillance room. But I got it and I loaded it into the gun. And for the life of me, I could not kill this werewolf. So the first time I shot, Werewolf came and ate me. And I was like, damn, I guess I shot two. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Maybe I didn't, I went and did it again. I had all three at this point because I didn't, I tried. I didn't end up saving when I went, or I guess I only had two because I'd use one earlier and that's when it transported me weight back and I didn't like that shit. Anyways, I was like, okay, I guess I got to wait for him to get closer. Did it again? werewolf got closer shot still didn't work i was like okay i guess it's got to be really close so the third time no more uh chances i waited and it just killed me and i joey you said that you just fired right
Starting point is 00:07:10 away right i assume i must have overthought it and tried to aim too much or something i guess i don't know yeah so i used my second no i used my last rewind on that situation uh and managed to like i didn't headshot the monster or anything so it like just kind of stumbled and fell died, but managed to get away with it. The second rewind I used earlier in that same sequence when she and Dylan are upstairs and the one comes through the fireplace. Okay. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yep. And I rewound because I didn't want Dylan to die because I liked him a lot. Oh, yeah. Dylan didn't die there for me. Yeah. He got out of fun. He just got to the kitchen and hid. And then the first one I used to rewind the Skylar Gissondo from the thing when you were
Starting point is 00:07:58 like, should I stay on the island or should I swim across? I swam across and I immediately regretted it. Yeah, my max went across there too. Same exact thing. And did it hit you? Like as soon you made the choice because that's when it hit me where at that point, at that point you know that like on the island, he was the only werewolf. And so like the island is theoretically safe.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And then you think about, you know, the rest of the forest. Like if he goes back, he's going to get fucked up. So as soon as I made the choice, I was like, fuck, he's going to die. See, here's my thing. This is I thought when I sent, yeah, so, you know, Max, if you kill David Arquette as a werewolf right that tracks back yeah it tracks back to undo all the werewolves that have happened basically since then right
Starting point is 00:08:33 and so when max became max again i was like oh well another person on our on the mainland will be helpful to try to track down the final things or whatever i definitely didn't expect literally to be he pulls himself out of the water and immediately killed like no quick time of that nothing to do just dead you're fucking crushed in dead i'm like damn all right cool i was on the one time where i was like thank god for the death
Starting point is 00:08:56 three ones. I told him, I said, sit your ass down. You're going nowhere. That's literally what I said out loud when he was like, try someone's like, you're not going anywhere, homie. Sit down. And that's what he did. He just hung out. Yeah. And I had lost track of where, like, which were what at that point. I was like, I can't remember which one's which. I don't know where they are. So I was just like, oh, well, there's just another person to try and fight. That is one thing I like, though. Like, I think we talked about this a little bit during the review is like, I think the game has such a good sense of location and keeping track of like what's going on and who's where. And so I remember early on when you're playing as Jacob and you're swimming with, I think Emma, and Jacob, like, if you
Starting point is 00:09:36 investigate, there's a point where you can find the binoculars and you can look and you'll see somebody in the tower. And I remember that like when I was playing as Emma and I was playing on the island. And I was like, fuck. All right. There's got somebody on this thing with me. And so I understand that. Right. I feel like that's the thing that keeps coming up or that for me kept coming up. as I was playing the game, where are people, what do I know about the story right now? How can I place people so that they're safe at all times?
Starting point is 00:10:00 And that was, I mean, this isn't about like the ending ending, but again, I didn't want to talk about it yesterday because it's too specific, I think. But at one point when I was over there
Starting point is 00:10:08 on the island right and in one of the watchtowers and I find the car keys, the cop car keys, my character picked him up. I think, I want to say it was Emma. I forget who,
Starting point is 00:10:17 I think it was. I picked him up and looked at him and was like, cop car keys. I'm just going to leave that one alone. And I remember me like, What a weird, why, blah, blah, blah. And then for me, at least, to get all the way to the end and have Laura explain how she got there and she did all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And like, where's the cop car? I ditched it in the lake. I was like, oh, my God, that's fucking rat. Like, I didn't even think that you would tie back to that. There's so many interesting things to talk about. I definitely want to talk about Laura and Skyler's story. But it is funny, Greg, you brought up how you said Emma and Abby were in the surveillance room. Abby or Emma, for me, got bit on her return from the island back to the main one.
Starting point is 00:10:50 No shit. We had a really dope scene where she is. down below in the storage closet, like, waiting with Abby in the, like, scary area. And she's starting to turn. And it's, like, this really cool scene where she's like, I don't feel well. And she's looking at her. And she's, like, getting mad and, like, you got to go. And you have the choice of either running or climbing up the ladder.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So I actually had Emma stored away in the basement as a Wolverine the whole time or a werewolf. It was dope. That makes so much sense because during that, I had that same scene, but Emma wasn't bit. And the whole time, I started to theorize that Emma, Emma was secretly bit because there were weird vibes when they were both in that in that like store space underneath the office where Emma's like climb up, climb up the ladder. Like Emma's pushing, what's her name? Abby to like climb up the ladder. And I was just like, all right, I guess. Like I'll climb up the ladder. I'll check out to see what's up there. I talked about it. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Does not everybody get cool eye patch Emma then? No, no. So you're like, Laura. Laura has a patch. Yeah. Laura has a guy. Yeah. Yeah. And we need to talk. about that. Like, so the beginning,
Starting point is 00:11:55 I think Joey said it so well. Before we get out of here, I want to say, I want to say one, sorry, sorry, yeah, yeah. Before we leave Abba, Abba, Abby, Abby in the storm or the storm cellar. That was the one I was talking about in the review where on replay, I made a choice different and they didn't get to have it out. In mind, they had it out where Abby's like, you know what? You're kind of a shitty friend. They went back and forth, but then came to an even keel where it was like, all right,
Starting point is 00:12:17 cool, we've all set our piece and we're friends again. Whereas mine, I fucked it up on the second time when I used one of the rewinds and it was just straight up. like they were not cool with each other. Sorry. Yeah, no, they,
Starting point is 00:12:26 yeah, that was an interesting scene right there. But yeah, I kind of want to rewind to the beginning because there's a couple of pieces here I found really interesting in the game when we get to talk about spoilers. First off, I thought the setting was so well done,
Starting point is 00:12:36 right? You learn about the burn down kind of like freak show circus-esque thing. And when Joey brought up like, they showed their cards too early, for me, I was scared the whole first two and a half hours, right? Like,
Starting point is 00:12:48 who was going to come out of this? Is it a scary clown? Is it the Texas Chainsaw Massacre guy? Like none of the indications led me to believe it was going to be a werewolf, right? I loved the ghost lady. I thought it was a fun time seeing Ted Ramey as a scary cop, right? And then all of a sudden, at about the two and a half hour mark, they showed the werewolf.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And then my scare factor quickly dropped off because it was like, oh, you've shown me the big batty. And that's too bad. I didn't like that. I thought they should have strung that out just a little bit longer. And then we'll talk about Skyler and Laura of just all of a sudden disappearing from my game, at least for the whole game until the very. very end, which was wild. I thought they were going to be there. Oh, that's, yeah, that's how it goes. Yeah, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Real quick, Skyler is Max in the game. Remember, the actor is Skyler. We keep using it interchangeably. Yeah, we like his name. Oh, we do we, Mike. Okay, my boss. Yeah, we like that. I did like how many teasers they had early on because I remember, there was a few weeks ago on games cast where I was talking about this game being a most dangerous game situation where it's like people. Because they show like the Hillbilly's looking for you. Yeah. And like, I was like, where did I get that? I don't remember, like, I don't know why I made that assumption. And then playing the game, there are the scenes where they are, like, they literally say like, oh, this is going to be most dangerous game.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I like the different elements that they pull in early on to try and trick you to try and figure out like, okay, what kind of horror is this? Which does surprise you. The hunting season sign. Yeah, the hunting season. Yeah, the hunting season. I was like, oh, let's look. Because, like, I was hype for that. I honestly wanted a most dangerous game.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Like, these guys were hunting us and we had to like figure out how to survive. That's one of my favorite types of like horror tropes. But with the way that they show their hand, they do show their hand kind of early. It did take a little bit of the wind out. But I do think that them have. having the elements of the family and then like you get to the mansion. It's like, oh, what the fuck's going on? And like the goal situation, I think they had enough there to at least sustain a constant
Starting point is 00:14:31 level of, all right, but what's really going on? See, for me, it was like, I didn't think they, I mean, they tipped their hand early in the way like we swerved and I hit something in the road. And then the werewolf is, you know, revealed when it goes after Abby and Nick or whatever, right, at least for me, when Abby and Nick were going to make out in the woods or whatever. But like, I, like, yesterday I was talking about how I was letting movie mode play while we were doing PS I Love You in review.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Glancing even over at that, like when Laura, when the car breaks down with Lauren Max and then Laura goes into the woods by herself, the movie mode found stuff I didn't find of like the broke down Silas, the dog face. I didn't see that.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So like I'd found the poster of Eliza the Fortune Teller, right? And it was burned. And I was like, okay, cool. And then obviously the more you play, you find more stuff like that. But even to get to the end when, you know, there's the big reveal, right, of the ghostly Eliza who's like,
Starting point is 00:15:20 oh yeah, you know, like, and they did this and Silas and don't follow it on. I'm still my game and what I found. Wait, you had a ghostly Eliza? Right, yeah. Didn't you get a flashback to her? Didn't you go, did you not go to the burn down freak show as her? No. No. Oh, really? You guys didn't get that. Oh, so that's actually Greg. You play as her, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 It's a special card you have to find. You have to find her card, which is like, so like, I really liked you could find two cards, three cards, whatever, you know. But she has a very special card that Greg's bringing up. If you find it, you get to play as her at that initial moment where everything blows up and you go forward.
Starting point is 00:15:54 So you get a really good back story of her. Yes, you're there when like the when the freak show's on fire. And so you're walking around and you find the cop and he has the burnt badge. Hank it's referenced when Ted Ramey's mom's talking to him and it's like, you're the only right there because Frank Byrne then you can find the burn badge as well.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And the thing, yeah, so you get to a little bit of that. But it's funny like it's one of the, not few I guess, but all the other super massive games I feel like I've finished and I know the plot, right? Like I understand and like, yeah, I want to see different endings and I want to see different interactions. But this is the first one where I finished. I'm like, man, a second play through,
Starting point is 00:16:30 if you did everything right or whatever, there's definitely gaps I need to fill in. Because at nowhere in my story, unless I totally missed it, which is possible, of course, in terms of a dialogue choice, did I ever understand why they were putting blood on their face? Like, that was never explained in my game. But I heard you guys yesterday say it was werewolf blood.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah, it was where. Wolf Blood. It was one line for me. Okay. They didn't make a big deal about it. It was kind of was a reveal for me toward the, and it knows that at the very end of my game, like legit the last scene of Laura,
Starting point is 00:17:02 Justice Smith, who is hard to read the characters. And Ted, yeah, Ted Ramey, where they're toward, they're in the forest, they're making the way to the White Wolf, and you have one vial left. Ted Ramey is like, usually I would pour the blood on, but like, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And then he walks away. And then that's when that Justice Smith and Laura have the back and forth of like, oh, this is werewolf blood. Like this must be what keeps the scent on. And like they have a high. Yeah, all the way back to me. I remember. We've talked privately.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I haven't talked publicly about it because this is our first time. The big rewind for me, right, was I was playing the game. I made the choice. I killed David Arquette as, as Laura, I killed David Arquette's werewolf, right? Or no, that's not right. It's Justice Smith. I killed David Arquette's a werewolf, which then reset Laura back to a normal person in front of Ted Ramey, right? And in my game, Ted Ramey takes a breath and then stabs her in the chest with
Starting point is 00:17:53 the mirror and kills her. And I was like, no, I fucking love Laura. So when it popped up and it's like, do you want to use a rewind here? I was like, yes, I do. And it rewind me hours back, hours back to the jail scene where we were together because at the very end there, I was sick of Ted Ramey's shit. And I was like, I've been nice, I've been compliant. You still aren't letting us in. And I shot him. Like, I shot Ted Ramey and left him in the cell. But it was one of those total video game things of I shot him and he should bleed to death there, you'd assume. Because it wasn't like a head shot or a head, heart shot. It was just the side. But still,
Starting point is 00:18:24 he shot him and walked away. And so that's where I deviated. Because I think I might be wrong. It definitely pops up and said, what's his character name? Travis. Travis will kill you for that. I think it might have said, fucking kill you for that, but I might be wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Oh, wow. Okay. That's right. I could be wrong about that. That's when I was like, oh, shit, that's way too much. I'm not going to do it. I went ahead. Laura gets killed by Ted. So in my game, when I failed to save Caitlin and she gets mauled, that's credits. I never saw the white wolf. I knew about the white wolf because Eliza had talked about the white wolf and like Silas and like that was the originator.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And then even when it's going through like, you know, this happened to Max and Max or when Max died or you know, and this happened to Ryan and yet, yeah, yeah, yeah. Eventually it was like just, it was the woods and this being peeps is out from the side of the tree. Oh, he's still hunting. And it's like the white. Wolf is still alive and well in the woods. And I'm like, what the fuck is?
Starting point is 00:19:21 You know what I mean? Like that was the quarry for me. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, because I played really nice with the cop the whole entire time throughout the jail cell. I said, you know what? We're going to be nice. Even when they almost forced you to try to be mean, you know, I was like, and he became really good friends with me.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So at the end, it's interesting because you bring up that scene, right? For me, it was clearly Travis and Laura fighting over on the right hand side. And then on the left hand side, it was the big brother. fighting a werewolf. And so it automatically shifted to the left for me. And I killed the werewolf right off the rip to save the bigger brother, right? And so those two were like, hey, we're good now, right? Because he had the glass in his hand like yours.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And then that left me, Max, and Laura to go off with Ted. And we had our adventure into the woods to kill the white wolf. Now, are we talking about when you guys fall from like the top floor down? When you're like, you and Justice Smith are like on your way to kill Hank. and then like you guys fall and then there's just a scramble everywhere like there's more like correct scramble yep
Starting point is 00:20:22 I don't remember you had multiple were wolves I only had one werewolf you had multiple oh wow I had too so that must mean Laura didn't get bit for you guys Laura got bit for me Laura got bit for me and she was turning at that moment
Starting point is 00:20:35 so she was our for me she was already a werewolf like she had okay I'm pretty sure she was a werewolf for me too but I don't and she was attacking Ted Ramey and it was Hank attacking one of the brothers I think. And then yeah, that's when I killed
Starting point is 00:20:48 Hank. Who's Hank? Hank is the court, the counselor, the king counselor. The head guy. The cop. Oh, no, that's Chris. Oh, no, you're saying Chris. That's true. David Arquette is Chris. Oh, you're talking about. I mentioned a second ago. Hank is the, I assume, is the other brother who was the sheriff who got burned to death. Oh, yeah, sorry, I keep saying, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:12 it's cool, just making sure I understand. But yeah, I have a question about that. Sorry, going. No, that was the end of it. Yeah. So then I, okay. So yeah, I had Laura turned as a werewolf attacking Ted. Then the other werewolf that must have been Chris at this point, or maybe it's the son, the sun, the sun, the sun, the sun werewolf, I lose track of who. The son, werewolf is the one who burst through the chimney.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, he's a chimney boy. Yeah. Yeah. So whichever werewolf kills, uh, the older Bobby brother, the one from the movie that I can't remember. I kept talking about yesterday. yesterday. And then Laura, because they, oh, because, yeah, and then Laura turns back into a human because she's like, why aren't you guys getting me closed? It's like kind of a weird line or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yes, I saw that. Yeah, yeah. But I, oh, in the cell, I feel like I played really antagonistic with Ted in like the prologue or whatever. Then in the jail cell, I'm a little bit nice. I reached for his gun, but I didn't get it. So I didn't know that that was an option that you could reach. that you could get the gun.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I just thought it was like a quick time event. That's not even when I got it. Yeah, I just like, I said some sleepy sleeping him. Yeah, Laura knocks him down at some point in, in, yeah, there was a point where it was like reach for the gun and I didn't reach for the gun. It was something else escalates to another point. But then I think that's when I get like hand. I think that's when she gets handcuffed to the pipe outside of.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah, see, that happened like that happened for me too where you watch him change. or whatever, right? Yeah. And then it was the same thing for me. You know, he comes back. Why didn't you leave? I won't leave Max. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I'm going to go bake some coffee. Like, they start a little bit of a friendship. But then I forget what is the next evolution of escalation where he stills a dick about it. And I'm like, you know what? I'm here too much. I think it's because he finds out that you killed his niece. But this is still in the jail cell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Real quick. Yeah. I know we're all over the place, but this is like my first chance to ask questions. Again, like, it's such a fractured story since you get different parts of it. do you guys have more clarity on the niece and nephew burning down the side show?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yes. Oh, yeah. When you go to that final one, that's the big story reveal. Okay. Ted Rammy breaks it down. Yeah, Ted Ramney breaks it down. Okay. I don't necessarily, I do want to know.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But for me, my only eyes on that were Justice Smith as Ryan finds the letter from Caitlin. And then I couldn't open it to investigate. I was like, that fucking sucks. And then during the credits when bizarre yet bonafide's, going through all the evidence you found in talking about it. They eventually read the letter, which is where Caitlin's like, sorry, grandma for fucking burning it down and yada, yada, yada, yad.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Like, I was like, oh, okay. So what happened? What happened? Do you want to tell him blessing or you want me to? Whatever you can break it down. So the breakdown of it was, is the sideshow came, and the niece and the nephew felt bad for the white wolf kid being caged up. They wanted him to be free.
Starting point is 00:24:11 So the niece asked the nephew to help her try to get him out. And so what they did was they started a hay bale fire and it went out of control too quickly. And that's just going to be a distraction. Exactly. And so they got him out. And as they were running with the little boy, he bit the nephew first.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And then they bit the niece after that. So the white wolf bit the nephew and then the nephew bit the niece. And that's how it went. My next question. And that's how Chris got bit too because he was just trying to protect him. Exactly. As no optics on this. Was the white wolf,
Starting point is 00:24:43 it's silent. Is it a werewolf? Like just, or is it a special? So it's like a circus, right? I think like it was like a circus freak. Yeah, no, it was a freak show. I get that. He was different than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:24:56 No, yeah, but when you kill him, he turned into a human. So I think he's just a werewolf by day. But he's the crazy lady's son, of course. Yeah, my only, my thought on this is like, what a shitty fucking freak show that it can only come around once a month? You know what I mean? Like, how are you going to have a dog-faced boy that's only a dog-face boy one night of month? I think you keep the boy in the cage.
Starting point is 00:25:14 you know, like, he can turn into a dog and people are like, when, and it's like, well, just wait. You know what I mean? He's going to show at night, right? Like, it's not a day. I guess so, but again, once a month. Like, this is a lot of my best one night. Can I get confirmation that this is what the white wolf looks like when they turn into a room? We'll see in a photo of Bucky Barnes, of course.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Also, while we're here talking about people exploding, I just want to put out there, what a cop out of like an incredible Hulk fucking Marvel thing of, they explode when they come back, Dave underwear on. I'm like, don't know, I'm not a person. or anything, but I'm like, there's better ways to do this than just be like, especially when Max has a bunch of lines. I don't know if you had it, but I'm like, hey, Laura, why am I totally naked? Why am I so naked? I'm like, you're in boxer shorts.
Starting point is 00:25:54 This is that weird. I hate it that every single time. I'm like, why didn't like Laura had a brawl? I'm like, come on, y'all. It's consistency. I mean, even, I don't, I'm not looking for assantis or anything. I'm just like, turn around. You have to show me your bits, but like, be naked. What are we doing? I agree with that. There's got to be some way you can change the camera angles. Terrified of the ESRB
Starting point is 00:26:10 here. We won't even hints at it. I want to know what you guys' vibes were, a vibe check on the werewolf monster. Because for me, I reflected later on about all the games that we've played from Supermassive, right? We've had, what, four games now this is the fifth. And I feel like three out of the five now have all been four-legged wolf-like creatures, right? Until dawn was the windagoes.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Then in House of Ashes, they were like these four-legged demon spons. You know what I mean? Running around as well. It just felt like, oh, man, are we ever going to get away from this? For me, I agree. That's too many four-legged creatures we've been battling. That's all. Yeah, I do want them to, like, change the formula up a bit because I think that made this a little bit more predictable in terms of where this is going.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And when you start facing off against the werewolves, I got big until dawn vibes, which I think is what they're going for. But I'm right there with you where I was like, ah, this is, now I feel like you're being overshadowing your own stories by having it be the same thing every single time. For me, it was too close to the windagoes for, or windigo's from until dawn, but enough time had passed. For House of Ashes, I thought them being like, vampires worked really well and that vampires and werewolfes are different enough, even though they're really not. But I thought they were kind of thing in terms of how they acted and what the threat level there was for it. Yeah, I think I was okay with it in terms, in comparison with Until Dawn, because it was characters turning into them. So you are like a little bit more invested in who gets killed and how you manage the situation versus like the Wendigo. it's like there's no secondary you don't have like a reason to pause before you kill for sure my
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Starting point is 00:29:56 Early access to direct deposit funds depends on your payer. Blessing, what's your question? My question is, did Dylan lose a hand? Yes. Hell yeah. I didn't know if that was like an optional thing. Did you shotgun it or chainsawed it off? I shotguned.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I changed it. You chainsawed? Oh, you're cruel. I was like there's no time. Shotgun seems like a cruel thing because you're like at least the chainsaw is like a cut. But with a shotgun you're you can end up with like it half off. I don't know. That goes to the writing that Greg brought up of like we shoot this kid's hand off.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Right. And like it's only been 30 minutes to an hour at maximum. And he's joking about it. He's living his life again. It's like, dude, you have no hand. Okay, I got it off. It was mayhem. And again, the dissonance, right, where it was like, we, I feel like we've done this in games before.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And of course, I go to like Walking Dead season one with Lee, right? And it was that thing of I'm doing it so brutally with a shotgun or a chainsaw, but I went shotgun, right? Where I'm like, this is going to be grotesque. How are we going to stop the bleeding? How are we going to disinfect it? And I don't mean it like, and I need it like a mini game of it. But just like a throwaway line about any of that. And you got none of that, right?
Starting point is 00:31:06 I'm like, good to go. And I'm like, I can suspend my disbelief about the werewolves and the underwear. And this is a weird choice not to make it be a bigger plot point. Another one, you bring up grotesque, right? And until dawn and all these games, they've never really towed that line of being like, oh, wow, that was super brutal, right? But I don't know what you guys did with the grandmother, the old lady of the family. I have shocked and blasted her face off.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And they show it to the point where I was like, wow, that's the. most far they've ever pushed the kind of body horror and wow factor. Jedda, her husband picks her up and he's like, Mama's gone. But you get the freeze frame on it, though? Because when I did it, it was like a shot, you see the light of the shotgun. And then it was like a quick like freeze. Right. I think that was performance related.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I did it twice. And I got the freeze frame both. Now, did you guys get the card that shows that she could be eaten by a werewolf instead? Because I'm trying to get to that instead of. of shotgunning her face off, but she was fighting for my gun, and I had to fight for my life, so I shot her. Did any guys ever fail that? Like, because when you, because for me, it was, I was
Starting point is 00:32:13 Laura, right? And, like, you get the, uh, the back and forth the shotgun, you have to tap A. And so, like, I didn't feel the, I didn't feel like it was a choice. I felt like it was a, oh, it's me or her. I'm just going to click A and you shoot her. Did anybody fail that to see what would happen? Because I felt bad after killing her. No. I, I found it hard to fail any of those. I think they did a really good job at making, like I said, the QTEs, very good. But like,
Starting point is 00:32:34 the smashing of A's, like, Like I never felt like I was going to fail that ever. I think they did a really good job at extending that breath and making sure you never felt like, oh, I missed that or failed that ever again. Yeah. I didn't think it was like, I mean, I think they did a good job of building tension with it of like I was never quite sure of how long it was going to take. But I feel like I caught it early enough every time. I guess I asked because I want, so when I finished my game the second time, because the first time I fucked up the very last. choice as Laura where they give Laura the gun and they're like shoot the white wolf and both
Starting point is 00:33:10 Justice Smith and Ted Raymer like shoot the damn white wolf they said it in a wolf they said it in a rude way where I was like am I not supposed to shoot the wolf because you guys are being assholes about this and so I didn't shoot the wolf and then yeah and then like Ted Ramey basically comes through and like he's like about to like grab the gun or whatever and then I jujitsu him like to the floor right next to the wolf and then it brings up the gun of like all right now aim and shoot something and it's like it's either I shoot the wolf or I shoot Ted Ramey. So I shot Ted Ramey. Oh, blessing. What? Yeah, he gets his face
Starting point is 00:33:40 blown off and then the white wolf awakens and then murders the hell out of Justice Smith. And then credits roll and I was like, oh my God. Yeah, I was like, that's when I mess with you guys. I was like, guys, I fucked up bad. I fucked up very bad. And so I reloaded the chapter and did that again.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And then I did the right thing. I shot the white wolf, which I don't even know that's right thing. Like, I say the right thing loosely because what I wonder is, is there a way to get through where everybody lives. Because my second time around, all my counselors lived, but basically every single one
Starting point is 00:34:10 of Ted Ramey's relatives was fucking dead. Yeah, and that felt like a bad-ish kind of ending. How do you kill the big guy? How do you kill Bobby? You let him... He killed by a werewolf. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Because I saved Bobby then. It's right. Now, did Justice Smith get stabbed for all of you and you had to turn him into a werewolf? Yeah. So that's like a main plot, no matter what it's happening. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I wonder can you not do it, though? because there's the choice as Ryan, right, of like, do it or don't do it? I did it. But I was wondering if you say, don't do it, then you just fucking die. I think he just dies.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I mean, I just fucking die. Now, did any of you save Jacob? So, like, there's a really interesting one when you're in the basement. You have the choice. You can shoot at the werewolf
Starting point is 00:34:49 inside the cage right off the rip if you want. You can save Jacob, or you can just go about your day and go upstairs. I don't think I got the option to shoot. Or did any of you save Jacob inside the cage at all? Wait,
Starting point is 00:35:00 you shot the werewolf? No, I didn't. I was wondering if you could because you can't shoot the wear. When you, correct me if I'm wrong. You're right. When you walk in, Laura has the gun. And as Ryan, you quickly go, no, like that. That's what I did.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah. So like, nobody shot that werewolf. Okay. Because you, I think at that point, you assume that that's, what's Nick? Chris. Chris. She's assuming it's Chris. And yeah, like, why would he, and Ryan's like, why would they lock him up down here in this cage?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah. But as a player, like, you're supposed to know that it's Nick. Right. And that's why I, like, intervene. because I was like, oh, that's not who she thinks it is. That's for sure, Nick, and she's about to kill him. And so I stop her, but then the conversation you get into with Jacob is, hey, those are the breakers over there, and then you see, like, the thing of the one of the doors
Starting point is 00:35:43 is three, and then the other door is five, and the breakers are one, two, three, four. And I think, I don't know if those all of us, but I know it was me and Greg at the very least, I fucked that up, and, like, I did the three breaker, and then I did the four breaker, which opens up the werewolf's door. and I basically like 30 minutes later Jacob died because of that and that's when I used my first death rewind and then I realized that you had to add the numbers together and so I did one and two which was three and then another combination
Starting point is 00:36:09 which was five and free Jacob that disappointed me because I freed Jacob and basically Justice Smith and Laura were like all right cool go back to the others which didn't make sense to me because yeah they're just like all right get out of here go and like they kind of established that like they don't really know the way out right Like they'd fallen through this big out. Oh yeah, they fell down a hole is right.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah, and they basically sent him back that direction. And I'm like, how the fuck is he going to get out? And that I don't see him until the final chapter where he's just wandering around the woods. And he's like sad in the woods. And that's the last I saw Jacob until the credits where they were like, oh, and Jacob got out after being lost in the woods. Yeah, this was my first experience with the rewind where I got there. I kind of half paid attention. Then they put me the things.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And I was like, God, I regret saying yes. I would try to work on the breakers. I fucked with them. And then you have another chance to get out mid of it. And I was like, I'm gone. And so you go 30 minutes ahead. And no matter what, I didn't know at the time, you know, I chose to kill Jebediah as Laura, as like, werewolfy.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Because I'm, I fucking hate the family. The family, I'm glad that they didn't survive in my game. But when I did that and she stood up and Ted Ramey comes in, she smashed the fuse box. You open the door. Weirwolf kills him. And it was like, do you want to rewind? I was like, yeah. And I thought it was going to rewind me.
Starting point is 00:37:24 This is the first time I'd ever used it to that choice. where I was like, oh, clearly if I don't attack, because it was either, do you want to attack Jebedy or do you want to run? And I was like, oh, if I run, clearly this won't happen. I did it, and it wound me all the way back to the test of the breakers. And I was like, fuck. God damn it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Okay, interesting, you killed Jebedy. I let that guy live. I don't know why I'd let him live. He was a bad dude. But when we go to the cool salvage yard, that blessing brought up during our review, right, that was a really fun scene. But there's another werewolf, and you drop the car on top of it. and I guess it just supposedly dies, right?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Because it's not a silver bullet. That was weird. I've been trying to figure out who that werewolf was. Who is that werewolf? Because it's not the niece. That person dies in the pool. It's not the nephew because he dies inside or he's in the chimney, right? And then it's not David Arquette because he's up top.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Well, I don't think they capture one werewolf and put it in a cage. So that is a fifth werewolf I don't have account for. My read on it would be that you can only kill a werewolf with a silver bullet, right? So I think that. Uh-huh. Correct. Yeah, I agree with that. So I think that didn't kill it.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I think it just stopped it for a second. Kind of like Monster Squad where they blow up the Wolfman, but then it reforms. So you think you just got up and started moving? I, on retrospecting talking to you, my thought is that that's the nephew. Because I, when the, when the, when the nephew broke through the chimney to fight Dylan and Caitlin, I was literally like, who the fuck is this guy? And like when we got away and then the credits rolled, I was like, oh, the nephew was infected too. I didn't even know. I didn't even think about it.
Starting point is 00:38:51 The nephew had you in the salvage yard and then followed you into the. the big lodge. Because you figure that it makes sense, right? Because it is the same werewolf that is hunt. Caitlin and Dylan dropped the car. So he has their scent, so he's chasing them. So does that mean then Nick, the werewolf at the beginning, is the one in the cage next to Jacob? Oh, yeah. You believe?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah. You think that was Nick in there. Okay. I think that's why you might be right with that one. That's why they put him in the cage. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, because I think that's why they put both him and Jacob in the cage is like,
Starting point is 00:39:22 you know, we're rounding up these kids because we're trying to protect them. even though we don't really care about them. Oh, I thought it's just he caught him. Okay, interesting. When I was playing movie mode yesterday, I had it on Gore Fest, so I wasn't like, you know, you get to see shit I didn't see it my way.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I don't know, obviously, since I can't see the prompts, what they fucked up or what they didn't, but I think it was when Nick goes Wolfman for the first time and blows all the himself into smithereens and becomes Wolfman in front of all the kids in like the locker room or whatever. I guess Abigail,
Starting point is 00:39:48 I guess I shot as Abigail. I don't really remember the scene that well, but I guess I shot as Abigail. And in this one, Abigail didn't shoot. and he's on her and just rips her fucking head off and throws her across her. Oh my gosh. And then they like do the close up of like her head rolling like all fucking bloody. Like,
Starting point is 00:40:03 wow. Thank you for the rewind. That's what I wanted to bring up. Let's talk about the reveal of Laura and how bad ass she is. All of a sudden she's goddamn Laura Croft with one eye and she's like, what up everybody? You're like, what the fuck is this lady out of nowhere?
Starting point is 00:40:16 That was an awesome. I liked it. And it's like, how long have you been gone? Yeah. You're like, how long has it been? And it also reminded me,
Starting point is 00:40:23 I don't know if you guys. they've seen community, but there's like a bit in community where there's like a evil timeline where everybody's evil and they all have eye patches. And so when you see her, I was like, oh, it's evil Laura. All right, she's back. Yeah, that was cool. I was blown away with the Laura and
Starting point is 00:40:38 her boyfriend, Max, storyline of, so did you guys go down and just have Max get eaten right off the rip then? Or could you get in the car and drive to the hotel? It's like, when you first start, you go, Ted Ramies, like, go to this hotel and don't fuck around. But you
Starting point is 00:40:54 of course, fuck around. You go over to Camp Hatchet, and then you have the choice, hey, I want to get back in the car or, yo, what's in the storm cellar? And you go back to the storm cellar, and that's where he got eaten. So did y'all, like, go to the motel at all and run away? No, you don't have a choice for that. You don't think so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:10 No, when you get, I was ready for that too. And you get in the car and Laura's like, let's go. But we're going to go to, we got to go to, we're closer to camp. We're going to the camp. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're at the camp. You're at the camp. And now there's a moment where he goes,
Starting point is 00:41:22 hey, it's raining or I don't want to be, I want to get in the car and go. And she sees the storm cellar, you go to it. And then, of course, you force your way into it where he gets attacked. Did any of you, like, choose like, hey, let's get back in the car and just leave?
Starting point is 00:41:34 I wonder if that's an option at all. I can't have had an option. It seems like for the story, you'd be able to work it without them being missing. See, I wrote my own story in my head, Joey. We all go to the hotel. Turns out the hotel has the white werewolf, right? Because he's running around in the woods.
Starting point is 00:41:50 He Ben bites you. The story still continues that way. That's how I look at. That's what I was thinking of my head. Oh, wow. Because then you get to that final thing and you shoot David Arquette, but Laura's still a werewolf and she eats the guy. It doesn't work that way.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Sorry, Mike. I was assumed that whoever we were not in control of would have been like, no, for real, let's go to the storm cell. I'm going to storm cell. I'll go to the storm cell or no matter what. Yeah, yeah, that was interesting. I want to know who everybody else still had standing at the end because I don't think we talked about more than Mike.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I only had. The only people died for me was Chris. um the grandmother jacob and nick those are the only people that died no nick came back so yeah i only lost three people total i i so in my redone
Starting point is 00:42:33 chapter the last chapter play through i had all my cam counselors live through it and then um the entire family except for ted ramy died yeah mine's in the counselors looking at my thing here i'm rusty but it's a bloodbath right it's easier to say
Starting point is 00:42:49 who lived through mine than died because so many people died. But off, I'm looking at the Corey Page, right? Off the top roll, only Abigail lived. Wow. Oh my God. You had a bloodbath. Holy cow.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah, because David Arquette, I shot to death. Laura got killed by Ted. Max got killed by swimming across the lake. Caitlin got killed by the werewolf in the hall or the lodge. Nick survived in that. I was like, oh, fuck shit. Emma survived. Ryan survived.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I'm pretty sure. I don't remember that one clearly, but I think, yeah, we, when, Ted Ray or yeah, Ted Ramey kills Laura, but that was like the end of their segment. So Ryan's fine and gets out of it. Oh no, Ryan actually stands up and then kills Ted Ramey. Right, I was in control of Ryan. I killed Ted Ramey then after he killed Laura.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Anyways, Ryan survives, Dylan survives. Jacob's dead. Travis, Ted Ramey's dead. Jebediah's dead. Bobby's dead. The mom's dead. And then our ghostly, you know, narrator is alive, of course. Oh my God, Greg had a bloodbath.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah, Greg is intense. Absolutely bloodbath. Is there any way for Laura to not kill the niece? No, because that happens off camera. No matter what, yeah. It happens out of our control. Because when that happens, that, and the chapter ends shortly after, and the creepy old lady is like, one down.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And I was like, wait, that's not me. That's not my fault, is it? Like, I didn't know if that was like a choice decision type thing. I don't know. No, she said. Yeah, I might have read too much into it. No, you're not choosing that. I think it's, yeah, one down, one more to go with the niece and nephew for sure.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Just real quick. I killed the entire family except for Ted Ramey, and then Jacob was my only counselor that didn't make it. How did Jacob die? He died in the cage. He got killed by. Oh, my God. That scene in the cage is so good because when you turn out the breakers, both doors open. And all I thought was like, am I going to get a prompt to close this door?
Starting point is 00:44:37 And sure as hell, it was like, no, he's dead. You're dead. I was like, oh, please. It's funny because as he was getting eaten, I was like, ah, maybe he'll turn. Maybe he'll turn into a werewolf. And then no. Oh, yeah. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:44:47 every time people get eaten, you're like, oh, I guess they'll just turn, right? Like, what's the difference between, like, whole kill and like a half kill? I couldn't tell, you know? Yeah, it's right. Yeah. Oh, it's right. Yeah, the way Caitlin dies when the, the, I wish I, the fact that on the plate, we never really know the niece and nephew kind of fucking sucks. I'm never going to remember that name.
Starting point is 00:45:08 But when the nephew kills Caitlin, like, he fucking kills her. It's not a bite. Like, he is on her body. He eats the side out. he then like fucking Hulk Loki smashes her corpse like damn that's cool you had that so he when you get into the kitchen with him for me
Starting point is 00:45:23 you either go into the freezer and die like I had Brendan die or you can run and he grabs her and just whips her into the wall just bang you just got tossed into the wall death it was really cool really dope oh what a good game what a good game that's crazy do you got any questions at all Greg from
Starting point is 00:45:39 yeah Madeline aka Matt Exposure Rode in with a lot as a huge until gone fan the quarry has been my most anticipated game this year. I'm hoping it reaches the heights of until dawn, yeah, until dawn, that the Dark Pictures Anthology never quite reached for me. Uh, blessing, did it reach the heights of until dawn? I think so. I know for me it did. And, you know, I don't know. The thing I'm curious about is that people hold this one up as much as we held up until dawn because I think though the difference with now is that we've had so much of these games that it, until dawn, when that came out,
Starting point is 00:46:12 it felt special. It felt new. It felt like something different. And I think that adds a lot to, how hard it hit. I don't know if the core is going to hit as hard because we've seen it done before. That said, I think purely as a game, I think it does stay enough. I think it's as good. I don't know if I would say it's like that far better,
Starting point is 00:46:26 but I think it does look better. I think technically it's doing more. It plays better, runs better. It feels a bit more refined. But story-wise, I think the story is just as dumb and stupid as until Don's story. Yeah, I like the systems better.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I think there's just like a lot of quality of life changes. Sure. And like, I never finished Little Hope and I somehow missed House of Ashes, which now I want to go back and play. The record, Joey, just jumping. I'd love to do like a co-op play of that with you. Okay, yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Mike, schedule it in. Okay, that's awesome. Like, until dawn, does this live up to the, does it this live up to it? Yeah, it does. It does. And it surpasses it for me. The only issue that I'll have is when people ask me
Starting point is 00:47:07 about these games, I'll always say until dawn, because it's the coolest name out of the bunch. But for me, the gameplay, the writing of the characters, the actual fun of it all. I think this one is the best out of the saga that they've created so far.
Starting point is 00:47:19 So, yeah, it lived up in surpassed. So back to Madeline's actual questions here. A lot of them we answered both in the review and here, but I like the spin she has on one of them, so stick with me, all right? I think one of the strengths of Untildon was the characters that you love to love and the ones you love to hate.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Most of the characters in the dark pictures anthology didn't hit for me. So how are the characters in the quarry, which I feel like we've been all over? But did you have favorites that you were really trying to keep alive? and then I think the one we really have an address. Did you see a lot of character growth throughout the game?
Starting point is 00:47:47 That is something interesting, right? Because, and I'm not going to be able to pull it out of my hat on the fly. Sorry. But in Until Dawn, the woman I fucking hated and everybody fucking hated, maybe. And I shared the scene in Laser Team 2 with. I forget her name. I remember, I just hated her. And there was never a redemption for her and Until Dawn.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And I think what's interesting about the quarry is that I don't, I guess I hate. a family and like Ted Ramey I went back and forth on for a long time but after two months of still being his prisoner that's when I was like you know what fuck it you should trust me right now but I didn't hate him like hate him like I understood where he was coming from I think and I'm disqualifying the mother who I think you know her granddaughter gets killed and then she's off to the races of just like we should have killed everybody fucking fucking fuck them they're all weird and whatever and they fucked up a lot the counselors themselves I liked every one of them and we talk
Starting point is 00:48:39 about performances whatever but a character I liked every one of them And in terms of growth, I think you actually do get that here in a way you don't get in a lot of them. I could argue with House of Ashes. I think, you know, Ashley Tinsdale and a relationship with her husband and the way I played it, there was growth there. And the way they came together and fought with the Iraqi soldier, which I thought was cool and yaddy, yeah, yeah. There was stuff there. But comparing it to until dawn, I think there is more growth here, especially when you look at somebody like Laura,
Starting point is 00:49:03 especially when you look at somebody like, again, that conversation I had that I then retconned out of my own existence with Emma and Abigail, right? Like, I think there is something there. And I do eventually want somebody to answer what was Justice Smith's whole thing with David Arquette? Because I never really got a, in my thing, other than like they were, he liked him. Like, I never really understood why they were so down for him. He had been coming to the camp before. And so they had built a bond in relationship. That's all it was.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah. So he was close with the niece and nephew. He was close with David Arquette as the camp counselor because he had just been coming here for so long. And then while we're here, I would want to hear, I'm sorry, about your guys' thoughts on growth and everything else. Well, I'm thinking of it, too. was there anything in the finale that I missed that was more of a relationship between Justice Smith and Laura? Because like there's the, I went once they get united and start working, I did notice that it seemed like Justice Smith had a thing for her. And then I also thought she was floating back at some point.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And then there was a conversation where Caitlin and Dylan Art, who had earlier been pining both of them for Justice Smith are like, well, I guess we know his type now. Yeah, strong with one, strong women with an eye patch. Oh, pirates. I was like, same thing. I thought it was weird because she's in a relationship, right? Like, that's what you said best friends. I was like, oh, where are they best friends? Is that what the thing was when you talked about Max?
Starting point is 00:50:18 But they never, in my play through, they didn't resolve that, you know, like that. I mean, it might just be that he has a thing for her and that's it or just, you know, whatever. Yeah, no. Yeah. No, at the ending on mine, there was no like, oh, like, I'm hitting on you or we're going to go get together. It was simply, we finish it and it was implied, oh, she's going back for Max on the island now for sure. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I wonder if they're, my, my question to you guys, maybe there isn't an answer now that I'm hearing a little bit about like what your guys's thing was too i thought that dylan and justice smith were going to be a thing um why you could have yeah that's the thing is like i i never got the option to go all the way with it and maybe it was because i was a bit flip-floppy because early on when it is justice smith and dillon i just call him ryan Ryan Ryan and Dylan when they're hanging out in um chris's room there were flurry vibes of like hey like what's your type or whatever like they kind of had that little back and forth. But then at the
Starting point is 00:51:13 bonfire when they were playing Truth or Dare, I had the option as Ryan to kiss either Dylan or Brenda song or Caitlin. And I kissed Caitlin. Me too. And Dylan was like super, and even it popped up, right? Like Dylan's disappointed in this or Dylan doesn't like this.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And so I assume that maybe I fucked it up for myself and maybe I could have chosen one of them, but because I didn't, I just ended up with Laura instead. I think the whole thing is because there's a conversation later on. Maybe it's with Laura and Ryan where somebody presents Ryan of like, man, you kind of got your picking a litter. Caitlin and Dylan are into you.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And he's like, yeah, I know. But it's, I think they're into him and he's not into them. And so it's just a thing to do truth or dare that can't really butt anywhere else. Yeah. Could be wrong. Joey, what did you think? Did you think there was character growth throughout this game? I did.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I don't think that there was a character. I love to hate as much as the girl from Until Dawn. I think, oh, it's Emily. And I like having those characters. But I think overall, I like, the only character I didn't really like was Nick. And I think that's because he like turns early-ish. Oh, sure, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And I didn't really care about the like, will they, won't they with him in Abigail. That wasn't like a particularly interesting storyline for me. But I like, I think it's Dylan. that is the one where he was like, I showed up to camp and I made jokes. So I became the funny guy, even though at home, that's not my kind of thing. And so I think he has some really interesting conversations with Caitlin. For sure.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Justice Smith obviously has like a lot going on in like a lot of different ways. But I don't really feel like he ever gets like a hero moment. And maybe that was just my play through or maybe that's just not what was written for his characters. His hero moments when he goes, no, you're a fucker. You're a fucker. He was like, oh, that's not good. You're a fucking three-year-girl. Yeah, I would say that Emma's like the closest one that I like,
Starting point is 00:53:15 I kind of liked not liking because she was just like the annoying kind of influencer girl. But even her, like they do such a great job. I think when she's walking alone doing the narration where you can choose an idea, like go for like the heartfelt. And she kind of has that like self-realization of why she's always doing that. And I mean, she probably knew it. Yeah, but she lets her guard down and kind of talks about like why she puts up this veneer and why she does the way she does.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And like there was that good. Abby callout of Emma scene where I think Greg mentioned earlier where you can be like yeah why are you so terrible like why are you so aggressive? Oh yeah and she kind of breaks it down and it's like hey you know I'm sorry you're right like I need you more than you need to me kind of thing which a little bit corny but like I think for me that made me get a little bit more into her character. Yeah. Fantastic. Are there any things we haven't covered you want to go through Mike? No, I mean for me I didn't see much character growth out of any of them to be honest with you. I just didn't feel that full. circle at all. I didn't like Justice Smith, aka, a.k.a. Ryan, I just don't think the voice acting was in. I think that's what turned me off
Starting point is 00:54:16 to that character and just how that was played. I think also as well, Jacob was not very well done. I think Dylan stole the show. I wish I could help you there. If you know kind of funny content and you've never actually met the man, Jacob is Alex Solomia, formerly of IGN that we worked with and was on the video team. Like, and to the point that we're, when we're, Jen and I were like, like, it was thinking it. Jen turned to be like, that's Alex. I'm like, I know it's fucking out. And to give context, like we joke, Alex Salamita is like the third
Starting point is 00:54:44 Scarpino brother. He's the bearded Metsboro. You always see. He's got a heart of gold. Totally fun. If I'm going to have a playable Alex Salamita in this game, I'm stupid. He's a total heart of gold buffoon, like backwards hat. Like, yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Like, that's who he is and that's who Josh is. And it's like, that's my thing is. I really like, I really like Jacob. And I hated, like, I didn't, I didn't hate him because I didn't have a reason to hate him aside from, like, him. him being the catalyst of all this and like taking the thing out of the Oh yeah that was a does you catch fire
Starting point is 00:55:14 Or did you put the arm Did you take the arm or cut the brake? I took the arm yeah And I think the blake fluid lights the whole engine on fire Is what my video showed me That's a thing Oh I saw that preview Yeah and not to start a new thread
Starting point is 00:55:25 Because I do want to come back to a character development But yeah So I stole the the arm thing right That like it was missing from the truck I was keeping eye on eye on that thing Without the whole experience right Like when Jake can go swimming You can lose it
Starting point is 00:55:36 And I went back to get it as opposed to go in hell yeah i was making sure you had the entire time nowhere did that come back into play for me no question no no for i lost mine at the bottom of the lake yeah i dropped mine in the lake i was like no big deal fuck it i'm like i'm not going to be able to find it i'm not even gonna bother with it but then again gore fest yesterday i looked over and there's a body at the bottom of bloater yeah you guys didn't really see the bloater i saw that who is that what's that all about you think it was one of the hikers blessed i think so too that could have been in the credits you know the podcast the place during the credits
Starting point is 00:56:08 which I think is great yeah it's fantastic even though on that on the computer screen it says teenagers like arrested or something like that because of like wild violence at a camp thing see I didn't get that
Starting point is 00:56:21 really mine were attack and then it was like no it actually seemed the headline changed to being something about an actual like unidentified animal attack oh because all your kids most of your people died because mine was arrested and I was like I got nine out of ten evidence I feel like that should
Starting point is 00:56:36 Oh, that should get you. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, though, sorry, who was the blot or? I don't know the bloters. So I want to say in that thing, they said that it was a hiker. That just happened. Denise and nephew kill hikers out there.
Starting point is 00:56:47 And then Ted Ramey talks with Chris, and he's like, remember that time when we had to cover up the hikers and all that jazz? So they threw the body in the lake. Yeah. So it's just a random body of like, this is the fault of the war wolves out here. Yeah, there's some clue that you find
Starting point is 00:57:00 that tells you about, like, the missing hikers. It's like a newspaper clipping or something like that. I'd seen that. And I thought, yeah, I didn't know anything about it. I never caught the other thing, obviously, that they were talking about the hikers or whatever. So the car thing didn't come back around with you guys with the thing because I was confused when Brenda Song and Dylan were making their way towards the junkyard. I was like, guys, you don't need to do this. It's fine, Jacob.
Starting point is 00:57:20 He can help you. Oh, you would think that? No, I thought, oh, they're going to find the arm in there, which then they don't because the whole werewolf thing in the middle of it all happens. Yeah. Even when I went back for the arm when he's, like, struggling in the, like, barbed wire and stuff underwater, I've still. I've still lost it. So I don't even know if it is recoverable or if it was just like a...
Starting point is 00:57:39 No, he gets it. I definitely, yeah. You go one more time past that. Joey, he gets it, puts it in his underwear. So he has it in his underwear all the time. Yeah, I was just very confused of why that didn't... Like, I feel like I wasted my choices trying to make sure that thing was kept
Starting point is 00:57:53 because it never came back around. I guess you had no matter what you have to wait until sunlight, right? So it's like... That's true. Whatever. But yeah, for me, like, I really like that character. And like, my problem with the character development it isn't that like there isn't like good progression because you know Jacob I liked when like he was
Starting point is 00:58:09 crying and being emotional and they showed that side of him and I feel like that was a really good way of him opening up this stuff about emma we talked about Dylan being this dude who's like yeah no I'm the funny like dumb dumb motherfucker but like I'm actually really smart and like doing all that stuff I'm a dumb motherfucker like all that stuff I actually really dug a lot my one issue is that I feel like so many of them just missed the bow on top to like finalize like I didn't feel like they close the book on so many of the characters Like Jacob just being lost in the woods. I was like, oh, damn, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I guess that's it. Abby and Emma, like, the last time I saw them, they were looking at Caitlin and Dylan on a screen. And they're like, oh, shit, they're being chased. And that was the last I saw them. Like, they never really, they gave the characters their final moments until you get to the, like, the screen where it just shows you like, oh, yeah, and they all survived. And so that's probably, like, that's almost probably my biggest issue with how they round
Starting point is 00:59:00 out the story. But it's not from that I did like the character. Yeah. I would have taken that like a hey here's a final scene of all of them back at the truck just hanging out back at the bus interesting yeah I wonder how they would have played that if you didn't have any campers left like there's just so many different variables and like maybe you if you do save all the campers maybe you do get that and that's like a bonus thing I don't know that's why there's how many endings again 132 whatever 1806 86 different endings to go through and see you I'm all. Real quick, too, I do want to give a shout out, Joey, you mentioned liking the podcast, bizarre yet bona fide there at the end. Like, I'm looking at my Spotify right now.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I'm too behind, but that there is a six-episode run they made of bizarre yet bona fide that you can get on podcast services across the globe that is in universe and goofy or whatever. And yeah, I'm, like I said, they've been releasing weekly since March, or I guess not even really weekly, whatever. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:00:01 But there's a six one coming up and they're, They've been teasing the Hackett's Quarry stuff as they've gone. And now the ones I'm behind on are the ones where they're really getting back into it. So if you want to be immersed negative. That's cool. Nike. Really quick to end this. Does anybody know where we go next?
Starting point is 01:00:15 Because Blessing brought it up on the review. I didn't stay for any post credits. Did they give us a post credit of like what is next? Or is that from House of Ashes, maybe there's a post credit. Like where? Yeah. There's no crossover. These are different publishers.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So they're not going to tease. Okay. So where does that one go? The devil and me is like a saw kind of deal. Oh, okay, that's what I need to know. Yeah, yeah. Hold on, hold on. The devil inside me.
Starting point is 01:00:39 This is the write-up over at the darkpictures. com.com, a documentary film crew receives a mysterious invite to a replica of, quote, murder castle of H.H. Holmes, America's first serial killer. They soon discover that they're being watched and there is much more at stake than they're viewing figures. And this is what they are describing this as the finale of the first season of Dark Pictures.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Mike and Joey, did you guys finish? the latest dark pictures game. No, I'm halfway through. I have not gone back since happening. I'm halfway through Little Hope. And then I just kind of got off. You got to talk about when you finish it. Because like there's hints of shared universe stuff going on
Starting point is 01:01:16 toward the, not even hints of it. There's just like an interesting ending that made me go like, are they going to try and loop this stuff back and around to make a bigger narrative? Like they had to ask those questions. I love that. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:01:27 The fact that they're calling this next one the end of the first season, I think it'll be interesting to see what they do with it. But Joey, don't play anymore. Remember, Mike get it on the calendar. touch it. Twitch.tv slash kind of funny games. We can do that.
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