Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Tim & Andy's Halo Infinite Impressions w/Danny Pena - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 84

Episode Date: August 4, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This show is sponsored by BetterHelp Online Therapy. Without a healthy mind, being happy is hard. Visit betterhelp.com slash Kind of Funny and see if online therapy is for you. What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Gamescast. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller, alongside the future class of video games. Blessing, Eddie O. Yeah, Jr.
Starting point is 00:00:27 What's up, Greg? Not much. I won't lie to you, blessing. I feel a little naked out here. All right, I feel. I'm perplexed. I'm scared. Well, no, not literally naked, sir.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I went in to do the junior like I normally do. And what I do is I hit the mic guard, but my mic guard is completely gone. I am unprotected out here. The baby ticket's gone? No, the baby's not here yet. Jen might have taken it. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You're going to say no? There's only two human beings in the room. One of them didn't take them out of the thing. And so you're going to say you didn't take it. I thought maybe the baby was born in the time that I was gone. Is Jen usually always just right there? It depends on the day in the show. But we have a joint office down here.
Starting point is 00:01:06 We have a little printer over there. Jen wants a water cooler down here. I just don't think it's needed. Do it. We'll put food punching it. What you got against dehydration? Or no, what you got against hydration, Greg?
Starting point is 00:01:16 What you got against hydration? I'll let you know blessing at E. E. Oye Jr. All right. We can't all be like you, young and full of metabolism, all right? The exercise I get is climbing the stairs
Starting point is 00:01:24 to get a glass of water. I have this metabolism. I always have water next to me. You know, water is essential for being healthy. It's essential for having energy. You got a small bottle of water. You need a lot of water.
Starting point is 00:01:36 water. Oh, Danny has the same water bottle as me. Say what? Cheers. Let's go. Butterfinger family. First off, how many ounces do you think you guys can carry? I can keep 32 ounces in this REI bottle. That ain't pushing 32 ounces. That's not a lot. 32 ounces, that's not much.
Starting point is 00:01:52 What blessing and Danny are holding looks like something you load into a rocket launcher of some sort. Like, it looks like a canister that you've got to like load a weapon. And you're like, halo rocket launcher. The thing about this, it keeps, keeps the water cool, very, very cool.
Starting point is 00:02:08 It does. It does. That's actually right. Why I like this one. All right. Of course, that's Danny Payne, founder of Gamer Tag Radio.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Hello, Danny. How are you? Hello, what's up, crew? I've been on a while, man, but I'm ready to talk about games with y'all, man.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We're ready to have you back. I'm glad we're starting with the water bottles because what I appreciate about the Butterfinger water bottle it came in the influencer pack we all got is that it could also be a weapon. You could also, if somebody breaks into the room right now,
Starting point is 00:02:29 blessing can use that to fight anybody. If Michael Heim comes in there, smacked out of his mind on PCP, that's going to stop it. It's a hefty water bottle, and it's misleading to you because I'm making fun of you for how small your 32-ounce water bottle is. But I would say there is an unexpected small amount of space within this water bottle. Like most of this circumference is just, I think, thickness to hold the cool in. But the actual-performance. Yeah, it's all about performance.
Starting point is 00:02:56 The actual amount of water that can fit in this water bottle, less than you can expect, less than you would expect. I'll bark no bite that bottle. expected the exact amount of, I know for a fact that this is way more water than that bottle. You got maybe 16 ounces in there. You might be right. I think you're right. Because I drink that super fast. You give one sip and it's just done.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I think I'm done. Round two. Speaking of round, rounding out our quartet, he's the Hispanic heartthrob, Texas Street, Latino heat, clicking heads and ripping him to shreds. The globe trotting headshot nitro rifle from Twitch.com. Andy Cortez. Back from the dead. Well, still not officially back.
Starting point is 00:03:32 But I just, you know, I was like, I can't miss a talk of Halo. I can't miss the first show back post Halo. I need to talk about this somewhere. And that's the thing. Now, Andy, of course, there's plenty of people who only listen to the games cast. They're not aware of the other stuff, right? They're not watching the streams. They're not going on.
Starting point is 00:03:48 You are not in California anymore. You are back in the RV. You are breaking many a law because, of course, as you know in the RGV, they don't play no games. But you do, I can clearly see controllers in a switch right next to you. I mean, this is all paraphernalia. Yeah. Look, if the FBI decided to bust in, like, I have no right to, like, deny any of this. But, yeah, I'm excited to be back.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'm at home right now. I'm at my parents' house. I just surprised my dad. My brother and I, my mom, surprised him with a new LG OLED TV. Very excited about that. I got my mom a new phone. So everybody's happy right here at the Cortez household. Are you happy?
Starting point is 00:04:29 How long has it been? This is your first time back, obviously, since the pandemic, but like how far back before that are we stretching? What do you mean? I mean, like, the last time I had been back to September 2019. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It's a while. It's a good while, Greg. Yeah. A lot of businesses shut down here. Very, very sad stuff. It's raining. A lot of rain happening right now. COVID, probably going to be going buck wild pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So we'll see what happens. But so far, so good. Masking up a lot. Making sure I'm telling people on vaccinated. Everybody get vaccinated. Oh my gosh, eating a lot of, like, just really unhealthy food, playing a lot of basketball. It's good stuff down here in the RGV. Well, I appreciate that you're having a great vacation.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I appreciate that you could come here and hang out with us on the Kind of Funny Gamescast. Of course, ladies and gentlemen, each and every week, we come together to nerd out about all the things we love and sometimes don't love about video games here on the kind of funny games. If you want to be part of it, you can go to Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny Games. Of course, on Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny Games, you could be watching us record the show live right now, just like, uh joshy g anthony corbett and mike l r remember if you're watching live you're having a great time you're supporting us on patreon dot com slash kind of funny games which means you have the benefit of going to patreon dot com slash kind of funny games and writing in to be part of the show of course on patreon dot com slash kind of funny games you get each and every episode of the kind of funny games cast ad free and you get it with
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Starting point is 00:06:50 but I've already said Patreon too many times. Except for this, thank you to our Patreon producers. Julian, the gluten-free gamer, James Hastings, Casey Andrew, Elliot, and Brian Ward. We're brought to you by Purple and FitBod, but I'll tell you about that later for now. Danny, if somebody doesn't know you, we've said Gamer Tag Radio. I haven't dropped the fact that you're in the podcast Hall of Fame just yet, but I just did. How do you describe yourself?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Like, what do you do in the video game podcasty space? Yeah, I'm just a more of an audio content created in the video. I started doing video now for the past couple of years. but yeah the first time I created an audio show was for PSO 90 Starland during the Dreamcast days yeah yeah so every since day I've just been creating content on a podcast
Starting point is 00:07:36 and yeah it's been it's been a good trip so far man so Except you have to hang out Paris right? Yeah yeah it was out to Paris he's been doing pretty good now the past a year or so you know doing good really really good yeah yeah you know what I want to one one day I definitely want to have
Starting point is 00:07:54 I want to go back at S-Kass talk about, you know, Halo and all these, all these games are coming out later this year. Oh, sure. Yeah. You're welcome back anytime there. Yeah. Yeah. Paris is always, there's always Mike. Always inviting me, man, Paris invite me.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He wants to keep you out. Paris is trying to keep you. You know what I mean? He's trying to break up. He's changed, Danny. He's changed, too. Yeah. He's playing chess while everybody else is playing Jackers.
Starting point is 00:08:16 He knows what he's doing. Yeah, he's right. If we give Danny too much of a voice, he's going to take over to become the new Paris and he can't let that happen. Yeah. Of course, topic of the show is, as you see. saw on the headline of the thumbnail, of course, he's going to be Halo Infinite talking about that flight. But before we get there, because I should call out, of course, I don't usually host the kind of funny games cast. Tim Getty's not bit in the eye by a snake this time, bit
Starting point is 00:08:36 in the arm. And he thinks he's going to be able to shake it off and be here about 30 minutes, maybe a little bit more into the show. So he's going to show up to join us and talk about Halo. So before then, I thought we'd start with some apps. Not apps on your phone, Andy. You know appetizer questions. We got for Patreon.com slash kind of funny games. Please don't worry about it. Danny, you're talking about fantasy. start online. You're talking about obviously the fact that you've been not only creating content for a long time, but you've been playing games for a long time like me. So I want to start with Jake Bakes Cakes over on patreon.com slash kind of funny games. Jake wrote it and said, what was your
Starting point is 00:09:07 most anticipated game of all time? Conversely, what is the biggest disappointment? Of course, we're going to go around the horn with this one, but I do want to start with you, Danny. When you clear the mind and hear what was your most anticipated game of all time, what pops up? I think it has to be Halo 2, man. Yeah? Yeah, because I have a funny story about that. So I used to live in Miami, uh, and I heard that they had the Halo 2 retail game available at Walmart. So I called at the store and I said, Hey, you guys have Halo ready? Like I would love to go there at midnight. They're like, yeah, sure. It was a guy that doesn't speak English that well. So he's like, yeah, yeah, sure. Come. Come here. So I go over there with my brother. We showed up like around 11 p.m. And I was like, oh, man, we're going to play Halo two weeks before everybody else, man. We got to keep this on the low and everything.
Starting point is 00:09:54 So the guy goes back and he brings this cart with a big box, open it up. He goes here, Halo 2. It was actually Shrek 2, the movie DVD. And I'm like, no, no. I looked at my brother and I were like, yeah, let's not say anything to anyone. They just go back home and just wait for the official. Did you take some Shrek 2 though? Did you buy Shrek?
Starting point is 00:10:17 No, no, I did it. I was so pissed. So it was a good movie, but I was bad. I could see. I mean, it's the sequel for a big green guy. I could totally understand the confusion. It makes sense when you think about it that way, for sure. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:29 No, but we actually, I went to the launch for Halo 2 at the, I think it was like an electronics boutique back in the days. Yep. And yeah, we were there for three hours just playing football, playing ball, everything. We were just waiting for the store to open up. We had a big, big crew there, man. It was awesome. A lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:10:46 People playing dominoes. It was sick. Do you miss that? Do you miss that kind of fervor? Because, you know, my stories I'll get to in a second. about like midnight launches and waiting in line and all these things that are annoying but then also kind of the experience, right?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Where now it's just like, oh, do you even pre-order? You just start to download whenever and then you play it whenever you get to it. I do miss it, man, especially the past year, you know, staying home. I'm missing people. I miss I'm missing friends, especially going to like conferences. And yeah, going to those stores, there was like iconic moments, man,
Starting point is 00:11:19 just being at the store at not only for HALO but other games, It's like I remember for Halo 3, for Gears of War. I did that for even for Dreamcast back then. It was awesome. And yeah, a lot of people never experienced that nowadays. You know, they just, Amazon just drops up at the door. It's different nowadays, man, you know, so. There's something special to that.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I felt for, you know, I think, again, it's, you know, because I'm old. But like, I remember, you know, growing up in the video game magazine being the lifeline to this world that I was so connected to that I felt so passionate about. And then those rare occasions that were the PS2 launch that were getting in line for the Wii or whatever, like this rare occasion at the time for somebody who was in, you know, the Midwest who never thought of it that there was going to be A Pax or that a Comic-Con would ever have a real video game presence to it. That was the time to actually sit there and talk in person to somebody who actually liked and cared about the stuff I cared about to that level. Yeah, I totally agree. Totally agree. I wish I wish we could see that more in the future.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I mean, right now, you know, everything's going on. It's good to just stay home. But yeah, hopefully. In vaccinated, everyone. Yeah, hopefully that will change in the future, man. I just love meeting people. And actually, that's how I got the word out about my show back then. I was just, I will go to these launch up events locally in Miami and just meet people in person.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And I really miss that. That's out of your mixtapes. Yeah, actually, I just sold that a lot. I made a lot of money, actually. It was good. That's the one thing I There's many things I love about you Danny But the one thing I love more than anything
Starting point is 00:12:56 Is when on your Twitter you do stuff Where you'll celebrate some anniversary You'll put up some old photos And you're talking about how long you've been doing all this And it's that thing where you hustle as hard now As you did then, at least from what my perspective, right? Where I see you all the time Busting your ass now to make connections
Starting point is 00:13:10 have on guests, do the next thing, you know, make the next move But then you see these things where you're talking about Yeah, I can totally see you walking around a Miami launch event for a video game saying like, hey, I got a podcast, by the way. No, but you know what is? Greg, I think it's good to show that to people. My guy, people forget, man. People forget. That's what I always bring up.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Hey, today's like the other day was the 30th anniversary of Streets of Rage. That game to me is like part one and two is like one of my favorite games ever, man. So it's good to talk about history, man. You know, everybody just talk about now. But I think the stuff that we went through back then, this is why we know so much about games and appreciate the stuff that we went through back then, like playing games like Ninja Garden with no saves. You know, like it was really, really hard,
Starting point is 00:13:53 but it made us a better gamer because we experienced that. You know what I'm saying? So it's good to, it's good to talk about history, man. Really, really good. Andy, tell me some of your history. What's your most anticipated game of all time? I mean, Danny took mine. It was Halo too, because that was,
Starting point is 00:14:09 I think that was the first game that my brother and I were both, like my brother picking me up from school, going to Best Buy, having that pre-order, waiting there outside of the Best Buy. Like, it was a big event, especially with how addicted we were to Halo 1. I think back before that, and, you know, we were excited to go pick up the killer instinct game when it was coming out because that game looks wild. But I got to say, it's probably Halo 2 or Mass Effect 3. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Either one of those. I think just the sort of hype and lead up to it, possibly even Mass Effect 3 would just knowing what I experienced in part two and how that immediately became one of my favorite games of all time. How is this going to end up? What's going to happen to these characters? What's going to happen to these saves? Because, you know, so-and-so died in my play-through.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Shit, that sucks. Like, I wonder if there's going to be anything to do with that character. I think Mass Effect is just such a one of those perfect games to kind of wonder what's next. So I'd go with Halo 2 and Mass Effect 3 for a lot of the same reasons that Danny mentioned. But to go with the Midnight releases, oh my gosh, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It was just so fun to do that. And we didn't necessarily do that during the Halo 2 days, but during the Halo Reach days, ODST, whatever Cod was coming out, whatever new Madden game was coming out, Halo 4 or Halo 3 and Halo 4. Those were the games that like, by that point, my friends and I were all meeting up at the Best Buy near
Starting point is 00:15:41 or at the GameStop near Laplace Mall or the game stop near Laplace Mall or the game stop near, over here or whatever, and we'd all hang out there, and it'd be, and you'd see another person that you saw at the last midnight review, like, oh, what's up, dude? It was just such a cool communal event, and it'd be hot as shit, like at 11 p.m. in the valley, but it was dope, man. Yeah, I definitely missed those days, and you sort of take that shit for granted, because, of course, we love the convenience of getting the game immediately, but that communal sort of vibe just
Starting point is 00:16:13 isn't quite there anymore. Sure. Blessing, what comes to mind for you for the most anticipated game of all time? I think mine, I've talked about this game a lot, especially recently, but mine would have been GTA 5, and I think I maybe told the story recently of playing
Starting point is 00:16:27 GTA San Andreas being so into that game. And having that game be the game where I was like, shit, man, this is this is open world video games to me. Like, this is the most open game I've ever played. Like, it has different cities, different environments, different, all this stuff. Loving the characters in it,
Starting point is 00:16:43 loving the story in it. And, you know, as a kid being like, man, the one thing or the two things I wish this game would have would be like better graphics and less glitches and then online multiplayer. And then GTA5 was announced. And that was the game where I was like, oh, shit, we're going back to St. Injuries where they're adding in multiplayer, they're adding all this other stuff. And if you want to talk about midnight releases, I want to say I talked about this a year or so ago on Gamescast. We did a whole topic or maybe it was a question about our midnight release memory.
Starting point is 00:17:13 and I told the story about how GTA 5 came out toward the end of 2013. I was in college, and University of Illinois had a game stop that eventually ended up getting replaced by McDonald's, rest and peace. And, yeah, you know, I hate to see it. sucks. And I went to the midnight release for that,
Starting point is 00:17:33 and that was probably, that was probably the last big midnight release for a game that I went to where it was popping off, like there was a long-ass line. in the GameStop. I believe they had like game stations set up and I remember running into people at the GameStop.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Like I think they were playing like Street Fighter and stuff and I would run into people at the GameStop who I knew from high school or like people who I knew from church or whatever the thing may be and be like oh like you're here for GTA 5
Starting point is 00:17:57 yeah you're here for GT5 oh yeah let's all let's pick it up you know that for me is such a memory and post that I don't think I've for all the midnight releases I can remember that I went to pick up games physically nothing ever matched that
Starting point is 00:18:10 like I remember even my other answer for this would have been Meliger Solid 5 and I remember doing the midnight launch for that and Fallout 4 because those are both 2015 and around that time I had Best Buy gamers club Ultimate I think is what it's called
Starting point is 00:18:29 where you would get the 10 to 20% off on a new game and that is what kept me getting physical media as opposed to digital media just because I thought the good fight for a long time. They fought the good fight and they had me. Like I would have been I would have been all in on digital way earlier if that deal wasn't there because I was trying to get any sort of deal I could on digital or on video games. And so I kept going to, I kept going to get physical releases and kept showing up to the quote unquote midnight release, even though it was like 9 p.m. by the time they're actually giving it to me. And it was that thing of showing up to Best Buy familiar solid, maybe seven people being in line and it being this thing of, All right, this time, you know, just hand out the games and this peace out. And, you know, I never had the same level of, oh, man, this feels, like, this has a vibe.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Like, this is a cool environment. Like, everybody's here. Everybody's excited about this one game. Of course, all the seven people that are there at Best Buy for Metal Gear Solid 5. We're super excited for Millegers Solid 5. And I can give my whole spiel for why Meliger Solid 5 is my other answer for most anticipated. The most disappointed game? No, anticipated.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Okay. I'm sorry to say it did both. I was like, holy shit. I love Miller Solid 5. That's a similar thing of playing, being so into Metal Gear Solid in the same way that I was into Metal Gear Solid in the same way I was into Grand Tuf Dotto
Starting point is 00:19:52 and coming off of MGS 1, 2, 3, and 4 and being so into that story, and 3 being my favorite Metal Gear Solid game and knowing that this is a big boss story and knowing that it's open world and seeing all the trailers on the previews and seeing all the tens and the reviews, I had never been so hyped for something. And so that's definitely up there to you. but in terms of disappointment, my answer would probably be,
Starting point is 00:20:15 I don't know if this is my most disappointing one, but it's definitely up there. Mir's Edge Catalyst was one that I was super looking forward to me because I love Mirz Edge. Begg for that Mir's Edge too. Give me another Mirz Edge. And they're like, all right, here you go. And you guys are like, not like this.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah, exactly. I was one of those people that was, it was, what, 2014, no, 2015, I think. And so I was listening, maybe 2016. I was listening to like Beyond or no. I guess it would have been like PS to Love You, kind of funny at the time. And, you know, I would hear you guys talk about Mirage 2 and how, like, people keep asking for Mirrors Edge 2, but like, are you going to really want Mirrors Edge 2?
Starting point is 00:20:49 And I was one of those listeners that I was like, no, I'm telling you, I want Mirrors Edge 2. Mirzch 1, such a good game, one of my favorite games, I have such good memories with it. Mirazette 2 is going to be a banger. It's going to be open world. It's everything I want. And I got Mirrors Edge Catalyst, and that shit was not what was up. Like, it was a very, like, mediocre, like, the most six out of 10 game I could play where the combat was booty, the exploration was just not as good as it could have been.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I would accidentally jump off roofs all the time because I don't think the open world design was all that. There's so much more that I wanted out of an open world Mir's Edge game and they totally fumbled it for me. But I was so in that I still beat the game. I identified about five hours in that I didn't like this game, but I still beat it just because of the World Mirz Edge. And so that is for sure my answer for a game that I super anticipated but was disappointed by. do Metal Gear 4 also. Got to throw that in for most anticipated. Where it wasn't even my PS3.
Starting point is 00:21:45 It was my roommate at the time and we were both Metal Gear fans and that was one of those midnight releases that as soon as we got home, it's like, all right, you got the game? All right, dope. I picked up like five Monster Energy drinks. Let's fucking play Metal Gear Solid 4, dude. What's this old bitch ass snake doing right now? I'm so excited to find out.
Starting point is 00:22:05 This guy's got a mustache and a little robot. it was just so sick and then getting those sequences with Riden and Vamp like I was just You kidding me? You kidding me? Yeah like that was the thing about middle year solid four. Now you're fun don't want to. I think we're talking about characters you don't even know yet right so you're fun. Metal Gear Solid 4 for me you know it was definitely it's not my most anticipated but it was anticipated and it was anticipated both from I'm a huge Metal Gear fan and also I was working obviously at IG at that time. So it was that I was anticipating to get to play Metal Gear for the first time ever early, right? It was the first time working at IGN while Metal Gear released. And it was such a
Starting point is 00:22:40 shit show of I, Jeff was reviewing it. I was doing second opinion and I was like constantly hounding Konami about when we were getting code, when we were getting code. Like are we mailed code? Here's a tracking number. Great. And like, you know, it's that day where you're not doing anything but refreshing FedEx. And finally it came up that it had been delivered and I ran up to the IGN mailroom, ran in there and it wasn't there. And then I was like, all right, sometimes packages get delivered. to this other place in the building, went down there, it wasn't there. And then went back up and then, like, emailed. And then, like, you know, nobody has it.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Nothing's happening. I hit up Konami. Like, it's delivered. We don't know what's going on. And I start, like, I panicking. I eventually call FedEx. They get me through. They're like, yeah, we delivered it to.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And they give me the address. That is not our address. That's not the address of IGN. That's not where IGN is. And they're like, all right, well, you know, we can absolutely pick it up tomorrow and bring it back to you. I'm like, all right, fine. I hung up.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And then I was like, that's not good enough. I went and like this, I know this is so easy now with Google Maps at the time in 2008. It wasn't as easy. I like reverse reference to the address to find out where the build. And like I was able to Google and find this weird company that had nothing to do with video games. It was a somewhat similar address, but not there. Got it. Called that rang, rang, rang, rang, finally got a person.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And I'm like, hey, this is a weird one. But you got a package. It's addressed to, you know, Greg and Jeff. And he's like, yeah, I got it. It's here or whatever. I'm like, how much longer you to be there? He's like, I'm only to be here like another 30 minutes. ran out of IGN, got into my car, sped out of the parking lot, sped down the highway, you know, 101 south leaving IGN.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Sir, please pull over. Like, it's metal gear. You don't. I don't have time. All right, sir. We will escort you to the. But I race there and I got there in time and got in there. And the guy came out. He's like, here you go, man. He's like, sorry, we opened it. Like, you know, we weren't paying attention to labels. I'm like, I don't know if I believe that, but okay. And he's like, that's a cool video game. Isn't I'm like, we don't know yet, but yet you have something highly embargoed. that could have been a huge problem for Konami. And then, yeah, race that home and played that.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And that'll, I mean, Metal Gear 4. Well, and now for real close your ears for a second, Barrett, all right? Just close me, I'll tap my head when I'm done better, right? But like getting it home and starting into it, right? And like, that first night playing so late into the early morning. The next day, I'm like, I'm going to do it. I'll be reasonable when I get home tonight.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I'm like, I'll go to bed around like 11. And it was like 11 o'clock is when they hit the moment. They're like, we're going back to Shadow Moses. and I was like, the fuck I'm going to bed. You know what I mean? The fuck I'm going to bed. All right. I got my head.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Barrett's back. Bear can come back. And like that. But like my most anticipated game is a very similar to yours, Danny, in terms of the experience, which for me, it was WrestleMania 2000 on N64. Oh, that's a classic. Oh my God. Well, that was the thing, man, of like, you know, I was in high school.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It was the height of the attitude era. And like, we were playing WCWO revenge nonstop. And it was that thing where it was the first time personally, and granted, this isn't like. like the first time it makes sense because I'm so young. But when I had my N64, it was the height of Golden Eye. It was the height of WCW and WCW Revenge. And so I got a theater kid, which meant, you know, for dress rehearsals and whatever
Starting point is 00:25:44 and the lead up to plays, you'd be there for so many hours that I would bring the N64. We'd go to like the school's theater and play there on the giant screen or whatever. And so when I, you know, as much as I loved WCWNW or Revenge, I was a WWF kid. And so like when they were announced like, okay, cool, they're no longer with a claim. They're going to, all the licenses are switching around and they're going to, to basically take the engine they already have and make a WWF game. I was like, this is going to be the best game of all time.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And so in the run up to it, it was like, obsessing about it, dreaming about it, writing it my own match cards and like before you could build a paper view, just writing out stupid storylines in class. And it got to the thing of, you know, my story of, you know, discovering what I want to do with my life is in the fourth grade with an issue of game pro, calling, asking
Starting point is 00:26:25 every store every night for a month about death and return to Superman. And it was the same thing here where so many people just broke street dates because they didn't know any better. And I remember for like an entire week leading up to WrestleMania 2000, I was calling stores and be like, hey, do you have it? And they'd be like, no, we don't have it. Like, all. And then here it was a Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I called Walmart. And it was like, whatever, it was supposed to come out. I forget what day. If it was, it was going to be Friday or if it was going to be Monday or Tuesday at the time. And I called Walmart. I'm like, yeah, do you have WrestleMania, 20164? And the guy's like, yeah, I'm looking at it. We got it.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I'm like, you have WrestleMania, 2008. He's like, yeah, before he even finished, I hung up. And again, it was into the car racing. I had the windows down. I'll never forget this moment. I'm driving to Walmart. I'm not even racing because I feel like I got it in the bag. Like I'm, you know, nobody else knows this.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's my golden ticket kind of thing. And I'm driving windows down, listen to Weezer or whatever, having a great time. Having a great time. I looked at the window. As I pull up to Walmart to turn into their parking lot, I saw these other kids running down the sidewalk.
Starting point is 00:27:20 I'm like, oh, that's funny. And I looked in one of them was in like a cactus jack shirt. And I was like, oh, no. And like I ripped in there, parked it illegally probably. Ran him over. Yeah, exactly. They hit him with a good door.
Starting point is 00:27:30 He was, I never saw him in the video game aisle, but I got, 2000 and immediately ran to post house to give him the stuff I had to deliver the next day at school because I was like, I'm not going to class tomorrow by. Hey, but during that time message boards were the big thing. So that's how
Starting point is 00:27:42 we found out when a store, we're selling the games early. Totally. Yeah, yeah. But you know, I have to mention this. I think the most iconic launch for me back then was the Sega Dreamcast the whole 9-9-99. We have never seen anything like that.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Still to this day. So it felt like an event, like a full party event, especially in New York City, because they, I remember at that time, Sega sponsored the VMAs. I think it was Chris Rock hosting. And yeah, yeah, and they had
Starting point is 00:28:14 they had a Sega dreamcaste all over New York City. It was awesome. It was really cool. Yeah, and like, you know, that's the thing, right? Like, they marketed that. They marketed that in a way like now, obviously everything's marketed, but it was, I remember the breakthrough of like that. And if I hadn't been burned by the Saturn, maybe I would have like given a second video, but I was like, never.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Again, Sega. I do have a question for you. Do you like No Mercy? Because North Mercy was a pretty good game too. For it sounds like 4. Personally, I think No Mercy is the better game. It was just that thing of
Starting point is 00:28:40 WrestleMania 2000 gets that benefit of being the first in the WWE series. So it's like the one that was like, oh my God, this is so great. But No Mercy was way better in terms of features and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I have the cartridges on the first run to erase your progress. And I kept returning them to GameStart or EB, Electronics B, and they're like, we don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, I read it on the internet. Please give me. I keep losing my progress.
Starting point is 00:29:00 can you please help me yeah i was gonna i was gonna ask about most disappointed game because and that's recent it was cyrpunk that to me killed me it completely killed me man because i was so hype especially the the past uh previous years i will go to e3 and and i see the presentation i'm like oh my god record paris coming out of the the medium rooms we're like super excited you know i even uh interviewed the developers keanu reeves i'm like all right this is it this is i'm in all in And I remember, usually we'll get games early. I'm like, wait a minute, why we haven't got the game yet? Like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:29:37 And it's like the day before launch. Yep. And I got it like Thursday evening. I was like, wait, this is strange, man. This is kind of fishy. And then I started playing the game where the prologue was awesome and everything. Love the open world. After the prolog, I feel like everything just went downhill.
Starting point is 00:29:55 It was buggy. My character was like stuck in certain places. I was underground. also driving. It was, it completely hurt me because I love CD Project Red, love their games from like The Witcher 3. Sure. And they completely destroyed me ever since then. I'm like, ah, never again. Now I have to be really careful of being hyped for like for games like that, you know, so. And that was the thing, right, is like, I remember leaving those E3 presentations. And I remember saying it on all sorts of, I think at
Starting point is 00:30:23 IGN at the time and then eventually kind of funny, right? I was just like, if they can deliver on what they're showing, this would be the greatest game of all time. And that was my I think is like even I was thinking even if they missed the mark, it wouldn't be a complete collapse and the game doesn't work on certain platforms. They sold it on and it's removed from the PSN. And you know what I mean? Like we're talking way beyond what I thought the worst case scenario for cyberpunk was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And not only that, the meeting rooms, it felt it felt like a like I was going to the Universal Studios. I felt like an experience going in there, right? The bar, everything sitting down with a presentation. It just got me so hype every year, man. And yeah, that that game completely killed me, man. I think especially when we, when you think about the development. cycle and how it was announced seven years prior.
Starting point is 00:31:04 So no way would the game not be ready by now because you just kind of do the math and like normally takes about three and a half years, four years make a video game unless you delay it or whatever. And it had gone through its delays. But you just got to assume, oh, they're just polishing it up. You know, that's probably what it is. It's hard for me to say that it's my most disappointing. But it's also hard to not say that because you kind of have to grade on a curve.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Because here's the thing. I played it, I beat it, I played a lot of side missions. I really liked the game. Like, I played it on PC, so I had the best experience possible, and it was a blast, and there were incredible moments, character moments. I think that's where the game really shines is when you do talk to these NPCs, even from the smallest of non-important people that you do a couple side missions with, to some of the main cast that are sort of your sidekicks throughout the whole way.
Starting point is 00:31:57 it's hard for me to say the game was a disappointment because at the end of the day, I still really dug the game, but again, I had the best situation possible. I think when you just grade on a curve and say, damn, we really thought it was going to be this other thing, though. We thought it was going to be something completely different where I, as soon as the reports came out of,
Starting point is 00:32:18 there are three life paths to choose, and each life path is about, you know, 30 hours, 25 hours, or whatever it was. And obviously that's just mostly the intro levels or whatever. You're still going to end up kind of playing a lot of the main missions anyway, depending on what path you pick. But when that was sort of revealed, it kind of made me realize,
Starting point is 00:32:40 oh, this is not going to be this skyrim level of, now bugwise, yes, very sky rim level, bug wise. But it's not going to be this, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:52 300-hour game that you just sort of live in and completely roleplay. because the seams are very visible of that it is a video game. It doesn't quite feel like an open world because it does still feel very linear in a sense. And I think you kind of have to grade it on that curve because it's not quite what we thought it was going to be. I would have to put Anthem though
Starting point is 00:33:14 because I thought Anthem was going to be my destiny. And like I still played that campaign and I thought it was above average to like fine. Like it's, I never thought it was a bad game. I had fun. fun with the gunplay and stuff, but I thought that was going to be the new normal. I thought that was going to become sort of my games as a service preference the game, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Sure. Well, you'd always double back to, right? Right. Talk about Cyropunk. That's one where I also, I'm in the camp of Andy that like, you know, by the time I finish that game, I actually really enjoyed it. But that was the game where leading up to it, I was like, this is going to be my game of the year.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Like, this is going to be, it's going to come down to probably this and a last of us, any Final Fantasy 7 remake and Cyrupunk out of all of those was the one that I thought was going to run away with it because it was the game that kind of spoke to all my interest when it comes to what I like about playing video games. You know, it's like this big RPG, this huge sci-fi cypunk world talking all these different characters going down these these trees and all this stuff. And I remember doing the preview for it in June and being like, okay, this open world doesn't seem like it's going to be a mind-blowing open world. But what they're doing with the RPG stuff seems like it's going to be pushing things because they did set up the life pass.
Starting point is 00:34:26 They did set up these different ways to tech out your character. They did put out all the promo that was talking about, hey, you can play as a tech samurai or a tech ninja, or you can play as this silent assassin, or you can play as this run and gunner. And looking into all that stuff, I remember being super hyped and super ready for that game to be the one where I would play it once
Starting point is 00:34:47 and then reload a new game and then play it again as an entirely different character. And for me, like, the disappointment for SauruPunk comes in waves, because one, you know, it didn't seem to have that in the depth that I wanted it, which is super disappointing because I remember finishing the game and being like, all right, I can't wait to start this over. And then looking into other people's impressions and being like, nah, this doesn't seem as different as I thought I was going to be.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Damn, that's a bummer. But then also the playing it and getting all the bugs that I was getting in the review period because I had, I forget which patch I had, but it was definitely before the 1.0 patch. I remember playing it and being like, all right, like maybe the patch, the 1.0 patch is going to be the one that fixes all these different bugs. Because the bugs that I was having was even more than, for PC, more than the average PC player was having. I definitely, I definitely had it better than the console players, which is crazy to think about. But, you know, for me, when I was playing through it on PC, I remember for half the kills I would get in the game, the guns would float above the dead bodies and I would loot them out of the air.
Starting point is 00:35:53 the one where like everybody was holding dildos? Not everybody, but there was a higher than average amount of dildos. That was the thing that they put in the update. They were like, yeah, we're fixing the dildos situation. There's a very high number of dildos falling out of MPCs after you're taking them out. And so we're going to turn that slider down. But it was just a bunch of stuff where it's like, wow, you guys didn't have this prepared. And even in the review period, I was like, certainly, certainly this huge ass 1.0 patch that's supposed to be like 30 gigs or whatever it was,
Starting point is 00:36:21 is going to fix so many of these issues. and to still get that final release and it being still that buggy was a thing that blew my mind, to the point where I probably would put it as one of the more disappointing games that I was looking forward to so much. But still in the place where my personal experience with it was still fun, but just not my number one game of the year, game of the generation level game that I was expecting it to be. Yeah, not an absolute all-timer, you know. And like you mentioning the dildos being replaced, I had that moment where there's that, it's spoiled in the trailers, but a character
Starting point is 00:36:55 dies early on and is going to pull a microchip from his head to give it to you. And the microchip prop was replaced with a pistol prop. So he pulls out a gun out of his head and like the gun is just like that. And I was like, no, like this is such a
Starting point is 00:37:10 fucking great moment and it's beautiful and it's heartbreaking and it's so obviously the game is stunning in so many different ways. When characters are like walking around and they walk up right to and look at you the eyes like, God damn, this feels so surreal because it looks amazing. Getting into a dialogue sequence and having characters walk around and like be doing other shit
Starting point is 00:37:31 while talking to you, that's the thing that I talked about during the review that I was super impressed by. There's one encounter in that game where you go to somebody's office and you're having this confrontation with them about a different character that you're trying to find. And as they're talking to them, you're going through the trees and he's walking around. He looks in his desk. He goes over to the side, opens this drawer as you're talked to him. And then you hit a certain point in the dialogue.
Starting point is 00:37:52 and he takes out a gun out of that jaw and starts shooting you. And I remember going through that and going, damn, that's really cool. Like, I wish more RPGs would do that. Like, this is where this game shines. And the fact that it had those moments, but then in moments where it, things that should have been a breeze in that game and a game like that of that scope of that budget, it faltered on those is the thing that brought it down immensely. I just want to throw out two things here, Gregie.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Because y'all are talking about midnight releases. I think the only ever midnight release I've ever gone to GameCube. up for was Batman Arkham night, which I would probably put under like one of my most anticipated games ever, just because of like the high of asylum and city and like, you know, like WV Montreal doing origins, but then Rock City was coming back for night and all this stuff. Yeah, the Batmobile. Yeah, the Batmobile. And, you know, they probably announced that game a little too early with like the, where they ended
Starting point is 00:38:45 up delaying it and all this stuff. But like we were we finally got it. Like that was super high. And then most disappointed game is Marvel. versus Capcom Infinite. That was a very, that was a very heartbreaking release. I definitely feel that. I don't know that.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Throw those out there. Oh, actually, you know what? I want to throw Mortal Kombat 10 in there, too, is a game I was super hyped for. Mortal Kombat 9 was such, like, like, leading up to that in the previous entries in the Mortal Kombat series, I wouldn't have expected Mortal Kombat 9
Starting point is 00:39:14 to be as good as it was, but that game was excellent. And, like, the previous Mortal Kombat game, aside from Mortal Kombat versus DC, would have been Mortal Kombat Armageddon. And that road, on a PS2 Mortal Kombat games. Don't sleep on Mortal Kombat versus DC.
Starting point is 00:39:26 All right. I got to sleep on it, Greg. Can you fucking leave I reviewed that for IGN? Did you really? Stop and think about that. Think about how much I don't know about fighting games. And we were in the moment of like, we review everything.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And it doesn't matter if it's your genre or not. Greg Miller reviewed a fighting game. What the hell did I? I mean, you had half it on lock. Half it was DC. Oh, I knew my DC stuff for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:46 They send you the painting, the special painting of that, of that game? Because they sent me that. That was a lot time ago. I think I know, I know, I remember applauding it when they revealed it, when it was that Vegas revealment they had when they did all the other midway games. Well, I'll tell you one more, oh, go ahead. Well, I was just say quickly, that run a PS2 Mortal Kombat games, right?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Like, I personally like them and have a connection to them because of nostalgia and all those other stuff, but aren't, like, objectively good fighting games or objectively good Mortal Kombat games compared to the best of Mortal Kombat. And so by the time we got to nine, you know, I think there's, there are like the hopes and dreams of this is going to be excellent, actually getting it and actually it being excellent was one dope but then that then fed into the hype for mortal combat 10 for me where i was like this shit is about to be next level it's on the ps4 you're gonna have new characters this dude named tekeeta uh the uh i can't remember his last name but tequila who has this relation to scorpion he seems like such a cool character and i remember being so into it and so shout out to that one yeah this is old school right here this is especially for you gregg so i remember going to blockbuster to run the game and they had the Superman 64 and I was so excited for that game like oh man yo if this is like Zelda and Mario 64 oh man this is gonna take it to the next level so I remember
Starting point is 00:41:02 renting it and I know and I saw the the graphics in the box I'm like oh this is gonna be good and I played it oh man probably lasted like maybe five 10 minutes I'm like I don't know what's going on this is just terrible terrible yeah you know I mean for my biggest disappointment in my life at Superman 64 in video games well you understand I own it I owned an n64 because of Superman 64 and that was a a big deal. That was like crossing a picket line because I was a Sega kid. And so I was like my first, I saw that in a wizard magazine years before they actually released it. And I was like, guess I'm buying an N64. And so when it finally came around and I, I had it preordered,
Starting point is 00:41:36 walked into that EB, got it, went home. I was wearing my Superman shirt, went home. It was a hot summer day, popped it in, or maybe it was like beginning of May. I was out of school for sure, popped it in. And I remember playing it. It was very akin to blessing story of it. I remember going, it was hours of gameplay before I could finally be like, this sucks. Like this is bad. Like this isn't even, this isn't just disappointing.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Like, this is a bad game. Like, how can the game I'm excited for based on Superman, based on the animated series, which was dope as hell, be this bad? What about the EA version that came out years after that? Superman returns.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah, of course. You like that one? No, of course not. No. I like that one either. People always talk about like the Superman curse, now bad games are.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I will give Superman shadow of apocalypse a shout out. It was another animated series game. by no means a banger, by no means a must play, but it wasn't atrocious. Like Superman 64 was, like Superman Returns pretty much was. Like, it was, you know, that was just a weird one of like the city has a health bar
Starting point is 00:42:31 and you're flying around. Brandon Roth, give the voice or whatever, but all the same. I digress. What I want to know from you, Andy, from you, Danny, blessing you shut your face, is if Halo Infinite is going to be
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Starting point is 00:45:40 I want to know, well, let's start here. I want to go around with you and Andy and hopefully Tim gets to join us eventually. But I want to know how much Halo Infinite flighting you play. and what your favorite part was. We'll start with you, Dany.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I have two stories. One, I was out of town, but I had my Xbox series S with me because I had the beta with me. So I'm like, I have to play this. So yeah, I played a lot. I was very, very hyper about this, man. I was worried at first. I'm like, oh man, is it going to be good?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Because we've been talking about it for like the past year. And I played it here first in LA. And wow, I had a great time. Like I play a lot of apex, especially with Blas, and my partner and we played that all the time and I felt like I was I'm back like I was I still have my skills I had my a lot of my kills and everything and uh and I enjoyed it I enjoyed it a lot now at first I found the bots a little bit too easy but then once they added the Spartans I said that's when everything was like okay now this is more challenges
Starting point is 00:46:43 but now I'm used to that now and I want more of a challenge after that so we'll see what what type of they're going to make three for three but the game plays good uh controls is good i just love how well it's like the sliding now uh in the game compared to the to like other games and everything right and uh yeah i'm i'm having a i had a blast with it i can't wait to play this once it comes out and i'm happy that this is going to be free because there's a that's going to be a lot of new people that have never played halo and this is going to be the first time playing it you know so Andy i want your top level thoughts as well, but I also want you to explain this. Of course, Danny's talking about the Spartans about the bots. What exactly was the beta this weekend? The beta was called a
Starting point is 00:47:27 technical preview, not a beta, Greg, trust me. The amount of times that YouTube commenters posted on my videos saying, this isn't a beta, I'm like, okay, well, YouTubers don't, viewers don't know what the hell a technical preview is. They know what the word beta means, right? And so they were very clear about that. What they did was 343 let you play against bots for a couple days or whatever. And they
Starting point is 00:47:54 were just bots that you were shitting on, nonstop, you and your friends could team up. But not only could you team up, you could still customize your Spartan in a way. You could kind of buy a battle pass with the fake money that they give you
Starting point is 00:48:09 to kind of test out that system as well. So not only could you buy the battle pass, but you could level up and change what challenges your daily was, whether it was get five head shots or get 20, whatever the hell, you could sort of do all of that stuff. So they're kind of
Starting point is 00:48:26 giving you a pretty broad view of what this technical preview was. You could change your armor, your color, make your Spartan you, you know, make it uniquely yours. And there's a lot of really cool customization that I just, I was so jazzed about that you couldn't
Starting point is 00:48:42 fully upgrade yet. But you're playing a bunch of bots and then 3-4-3 released an update saying we're going to let you play against tougher bots the ODST bots are on the way so it's a they just call the ODST bots they're a bit tougher and they they were and it was a lot more fun and the grenade placement of these goddamn bots was god damn it was Joe Montana like Greg they were throwing because I'm downtown dude Danny it's so it's so funny because obviously I haven't been playing playing a whole lot of Halo recently. I played a decent amount of five when it came out. Every once in a bloom, I'll pop into the Master Chief Collection, but you kind of forget the rhythm of Halo. You kind of forget the feel of what you're supposed to do, and it is constantly throw a grenade in a place where you think the bad guy is going to be, and then just start shooting the bad guy. And these damn bots are playing in ways, Greg, they teach the bots
Starting point is 00:49:38 to do the very apex thing that Bless is aware of, of the crouching and shooting and strafing, the bots are performing these maneuvers to make it harder for you to hit, which was really dope. But again, their grenade placement was holy shit, Hall of Fame level, like first ballot. They're throwing perfect grenades right under your feet. And it was a lot more fun. And then they released another update where they said, hey, Spartan bots are not available. I didn't see a whole lot of difference between them, between the Spartan bots and the ODST bots.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I felt like the difficulties were fairly similar. And then we were just sort of champing at the bit and saying, like, I hear rumors that they're going to do PVP pretty soon. But this flight is only available for another hour, a couple hours or whatever. And in the last two hours, they said, PVP is now live. Go have fun. And what really sucked about it was it just was not enough time. It was, oh my gosh, I got to play about an hour of it. I completely missed it.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I landed and I was ready to play. when I got home, that's when they removed. I was like, ah, yeah, it was so bad. It was so heartbreaking. Let's welcome to the show. He's Forbes 30 under 30, a.k.a. the second best baby blues in San Francisco, aka the verified one at Tim Getty's. Let's him host. It's good to be here, Danny.
Starting point is 00:50:58 What's up? Let's talk about some Halo. I'm just popping in now. Yes. A little casual halo talk. Halo infinite. Let's go. So at the very, I was telling Greg, Tim, that at the very, very end of this, of this flight, that they, it wasn't even at the end. actually because the flight ended around midnight and then the beta didn't end until 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:51:17 the next morning. But they said, hey, PVP is live and here I am thinking it's going to be available for the rest of the flight. No, they put it up for about an hour and a half. And after every match, we're screaming at Mike, start the next game, start the next game. He's like, I'm mashing the button, man, I'm mashing the button. And then eventually that button could not be mashed anymore. And it was so heartbreaking. But it was so much fun to play against real.
Starting point is 00:51:42 people and we lost most of our games but they were so close and we won one and it was oh my gosh it was so much fun and I cannot believe that 343 somehow managed to capture the essence and excitement of the old Halo games in a way that feels just really genuine and real and I I didn't expect to be kind of really missing it like I I knew we were going to have fun Tim I didn't expect to when the beta ended and see that tweet and go, ah, fuck. Like, I really just wanted to play more Halo. And it felt so, it felt so damn good.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I think the improvements to the movement are enormous because newcomers to the Halo franchise, much like Greg was earlier in the year, much like Nick was whenever we played Master Chief Collection, you get in there and you go, God damn, this feels real slow. I'm playing Halo 2 right now. I'm playing Halo 1. I'm used to sprinting and sliding in Apex and Call of Duty.
Starting point is 00:52:42 and all that stuff. I think the improvements of the movement are amazing. It feels good. It's just fast enough. It's not too fast. And the sound design and the soundtrack are just so godlike. It's amazing what they've done. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I did not expect to think, I didn't expect to be this high on the flight as I am right now. And it just, it's just boosted my expectations. Every map they released with and every new map would have. have new weapons that you could try out. It was just so much fun, man. And this is the first of many flights. So I think, personally, I think it's not going to be every month. So hopefully we'll probably play sometime maybe like September, October.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Because they want us to continue to talk about the game and everything. Yeah, they're getting good data. They're getting great data as well. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I have to ask Tim and also, Andy, how was it for you launching it for the first time and seeing the menu and hearing the music? because I was getting goosebumps
Starting point is 00:53:42 left to right, man. Oh, yeah. Yo, that's the thing for me. It's just like Andy was just talking about how the flight was over and he was so bummed. Like, I am not that type of gamer, man. I am not this multiplayer guy. You guys, no, I don't even need to explain this.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Like, I cannot believe. I've never played a multiplayer beta in my life. And here's this test flight. It's not a beta. It's not a test flight. It's like so complicated. So much shit going on. And I could not get enough.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Down to the point that I was doing games daily with Bless. Monday morning at 10 a.m. And I was up, I shower, I got down here. And it was like 9, 10. And I'm like, I'm getting a couple matches in, man. I got emails I got to do. But this is my last chance. And I played every single match I could squeeze into that.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And like when it was over and when it finally said like, it's just not loading, I was like, no, I need this. And I can't believe that. Like, Andy, everything you just said is so true. Like they did it. 3, 4.3 did it. And they did it with this tiny, tiny sliver of what the final. final game's going to be, even just the multiplayer suite.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Like the way that they gave us the one map with the simple bots with a couple weapons and stuff. And then over the weekend just kind of introduced, here's another map. Here's another map. We're upping the difficulty. We're adding the each level having the different abilities to kind of play with. I was just like, this is such an incredible experience that I can't believe is free to play.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I can't believe the crossplay works this seamlessly. And more than anything, I can't believe that it worked that well. There were a lot of little issues. I had a ton of problems with settings not saving or any time I would try to change certain button prompts it would just straight up crash the game and all that. Sorry, I'm Greg Miller, Greg Miller from kind of funny.com.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah, you mentioned you had a bunch of different configuration problems, buttons not saving. Yeah, you wonder why. Is that why you played this like a complete psychopath? Danny, what is your read? If you were shout casting this right here, as you see Tim using a controller in one hand and a mouse in the other,
Starting point is 00:55:40 Tim, I was going to ask you, that looks uncomfortable as hell. I can't do that. Oh, look, okay, guys. So I need to defend myself for one second, okay? This video right here is a proof of concept. It's the fact that it's allowing us to do it. Obviously, me holding the controller up like this as I play. This video was taking because Gia came downstairs for two seconds and I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:03 oh shit, you're here. Hey, film this real quick because I had no one else to show it off. Like, look, the radar, the whole HUD. is like on the far ends of the stream, the screen. There's no way that this is the right way to play Halo. I understand that. That wasn't what this is about. This is about me bitching and complaining for years on this podcast that this is all
Starting point is 00:56:23 that I want because I'm going to say it. WASD is stupid. It's stupid or Aswad or whatever the hell Greg wants to call it. It just, Andy, come on, man. Dude, it just doesn't work as good as an analog stick. No, it's not talking of shit about PC games at all. I'm just saying there has to be a better way. I am not saying that that's the best way.
Starting point is 00:56:43 What I am saying is this PlayStation move controller for the PS3. God damn it. No. When does it end? It's time, everybody. What's wrong with this? What is wrong with this? You got the mouse you're aiming how you want to aim.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Superior aiming. Superior movement. No. You got a car. Cats and dogs are sleeping together. This ain't right. You're going to play Halo on a PC with a move controller? What the fuck is happening right now?
Starting point is 00:57:07 I haven't yet, Andy. I haven't yet. okay. I didn't, I couldn't find the, the USB mini to charge the thing. All right. And also, the settings weren't working because it was a tech flight, okay? But my thing is, I'm happy. All jokes aside, they want you to play the game how you want to play it. And I love that. The amount of options in the settings was unrivaled. I couldn't believe it. Even what they allowed us to see in this tech preview gives you such a good example of what this game is going to end. being when the time comes, whenever it actually comes out.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And the fact that I was playing on an Xbox a little, I was playing on PC a little, I was playing on PC with mouse and keyboard a little bit, and then my controller and mouse for a little bit, then just controller, like, seamless. It just worked. It just allowed you to do whatever the hell you wanted. It didn't matter if I stopped and then playing on my computer monitor
Starting point is 00:58:01 and went over to my setup with my Xbox. It just took everything and I was just playing. And like, that's the promise that Xbox has been building for the last couple years, and it is now here with Halo, a Halo that feels like we all want it to feel, both Danny and you, Andy, and me, and Greg Miller,
Starting point is 00:58:20 this is, everything you just said is so true. Playing Halo 1, yes, it was a chore, yes, it was borderline unplayable for somebody that has never played it before. I don't say it often. Tim coming up with the hard truth today,
Starting point is 00:58:32 everybody accept them. But it is what it is, right? And of course, I'm not talking shit about combat evolves. It's one of my favorite games of all time. No, but, you know, timing and all that stuff. But where we're at now, this has all of the feel and the memories and the things that I love so much about Halo 1, 2, 3, and reach. But it does feel modern.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Having that sprint, having the mantling, just the momentum of movement, the ways that you can be mobile and run around and grab the different weapons, but they still feel authentically Halo. I could not have been more impressed by what I played. The fact that there's bots, the fact there's bots in Halo that are fun to play again. Like, guess what, guys? I'm not good at this game. It doesn't matter. I felt like a badass playing against those bots because they weren't pushovers, but I was still beating them.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I was like, this is awesome. This is the best thing ever. And cool, give people the options to play these damn games how they want to play them. And you know when I, when I had the most fun playing, it was when it was with Andy Cortez and Snowbike Mike. Friends hanging out playing this damn game, because that's exactly what this is all about.
Starting point is 00:59:33 The promise that we got at E3 a couple months ago was that we were going to be taken back to the, the old times of just hanging out with your friends playing this game and we did that in the most modern way possible it wasn't all of us crowded in our mom's like side room with like tiny little TVs with land cables and all
Starting point is 00:59:50 that shit no or split screen it was us with our own setups however we wanted to be communicating with each other seamlessly playing a game that is modern as hell and fun as hell and I can't believe they pulled it off and it's the idea for me that it is a it's the new
Starting point is 01:00:06 unified space for Haley to exist. And whenever I open a Master Chief collection and I want to customize my Spartan, I just don't bother because there's 17 different Halo games or whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:22 There's like, you know, there's one, two, three, four, and then I think ODST are available in the Master Chief collection. And reach. And it's like, well, you're going through different playlists, you're swapping from different timelines. You can fix all that shit if you
Starting point is 01:00:38 on. You can only play two or three or whatever. But I just love the idea that from now on, this is the place where Halo's going to exist. This is the place where my Spartan will be that I have just one more daily where I got to do this. And if I get that, I'll have enough XP to get that color I really, really want because that shaders dope as hell. And it's sparkly teal with like the dope-ass pink on the shoulders that I really want. You know, all that stuff matters so much to me. And it just feels, I don't know, it just feels like this. this is going to be the home from now on.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And I love knowing that not only does it look damn good, it plays damn good. I don't know if it was an issue with the settings or not, but I set it to the lowest settings possible. And it sure didn't look like it. And it performed amazingly. I was getting like 120 frames on PC. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:01:28 There's just so much to be excited about that I wasn't expecting to feel. I think after we watched those trailers at E3 and we're getting super hyped up and we see those, the 343 sort of multiplayer kind of previews that they were putting on. And it looks really exciting and dope. And you get the feeling, you get those goosebumps. But I didn't necessarily expect to feel it that way while playing. I thought I'll play a couple games.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I get tired of it because it's Halo. And I'll go play Apex or Valerent or whatever game I'm playing right now. But damn, like I didn't expect to miss it this much straight up. And everything just felt like it needed to feel. You know what's the scary part that this game is going to be different in a year, a year from now? It's going to be totally different with new modes, new, new levels, new everything. So they're still going to be adding new content all the time.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Now, the question I have for you, for you guys, is being that this is a free game, does it need a battle real? Or you think it's good to just have the multiplayer and a couple maybe new things there and that's it. Lesson I talked about this a little bit on Games Daily or earlier this week, but I don't think they needed at launch. And that is a great kind of character growth for me because a couple years ago, I was very much on the side of like Halo needs Battle Royale, needs to compete, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 The industry's changed. And Halo Infinite has changed since its announcement many, many years ago to where it's at now. It's soft announcement many years ago when we didn't really know what it was. but looking at it, I will be shocked if we don't get a battle royal mode at some point, but I don't expect it immediately. And I do think that there is a higher chance that I ever would have believed of it not being its own separate vertical in the Halo universe, but instead just being in the same way we think of Slayer and we think of big team battle
Starting point is 01:03:23 and all the fun game modes like odd job or not odd job. Oddball. Oddball. I'm a orzo and oddball. there you go. Yeah, King of the Hill and things like that. I see this is kind of like a big team battle equivalent of just a different mode that comes up in your matchmaking that you might play. And you can choose that playlist if you want to go into that.
Starting point is 01:03:46 But I think that it would be an insane missed opportunity for Halo with this gameplay that we just play at an infinite with the vehicles that we know and love that are going to come in the final version for there not to be a battle royal at some point. But I don't think that it's contingent on the success of this game. And I think if anything, that is down the line. They're nailing the multiplayer suite so far. They just got to nail the campaign. Battle Royals, a later conversation. Dude, I'll say this. I'll say this right now.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Like, I don't, at this point, with how, with how positive I feel like we all are and the internet sort of feels. Like, I don't really, I didn't see anybody who tried out this thing online feeling bummed out about it, feeling negative about it. It felt like it kind of hit with everybody in a way that I wasn't expecting. And now I'm like, dude, honestly, the campaign can kind of like be whatever at this point. I didn't expect to feel this way. I thought the campaign needed to hit in a significant way in order to make me excited for Halo at all. But just this weekend, this weekend has done it for me. Like, I'll play the campaign and I'll have fun, whatever it is going to be.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And I'll run through that, whatever, how many hours. But damn, like, I don't know. know. It kind of caught me off guard with how positive I feel. Here's the question I want to ask mainly, I'll start with Danny, but I want Andy's impression on it too. And then blessing on the back end, even though you didn't play this flighting. Danny, you're talking about playing
Starting point is 01:05:10 Apex and you're out there, you're shooting shooting stuff. You're out there, you're protecting the payload. I know about Apex. And the question I would have for you is, do you think HALO Infant's going to come along and be like the shooter of the fall? Is that going to pull you away from the other ones you're playing? Is it going to be able to push people
Starting point is 01:05:26 you know, not even to give a second thought about call of duty or battlefield. Yes, and here's why. The reason why I love Apex so much is, look, I suck in Fortnite. I don't know if you guys play that, but I'm terrible in that game. And it's not for me. You fit right in with us. Don't worry. Yeah, Warzone is not for me. That's not, I can't play that game.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Apex is a game for me. I feel the same way about Halo Infinite. And the thing is, too, it feels different playing Halo Infinite and also Apex Legends to me. So and I agree with Tim the game doesn't need a battle rea out. Maybe in the future probably that will add that, right? But I'm okay not having it in there. Now, I do like to see something like a feature where is more people playing against bots, not just 4V4, but like imagine multiple teams, right, similar to like different squads,
Starting point is 01:06:18 like apex, right? But now there's also a big team battle style or big time big yeah, big team battle. But now with bots in there too, like I would love to see something like that, man. because even if let's say you get your whole kind of funny community together you guys play big team battle and now is you guys versus versus the bots
Starting point is 01:06:36 I could see something like that man you know we haven't seen that in any game right now back then I think the first time I experienced something like that was perfect dark I think that was the first time right and yeah I felt I felt that playing this yeah go ahead
Starting point is 01:06:51 Andy same question for you like obviously you're so entrenched in shooters whether it be Warzone, whether it be Valorant, whether it be whatever you're getting into just to try something. Do you see this being like the shooter experience for you this fall? A thousand percent. And I think a lot of that is not only due to the fact that I felt so comfortable and had so much fun even in losing games.
Starting point is 01:07:12 It's just the action was, it flowed so well. And I think that nothing's going to take me away from Halo this fall, especially after I was really looking forward to Battlefield 2048. and I still am, but after experiencing quite a bit of gameplay of Battlefield 4, which I had never really fully done in the modern time. Battlefield was always the type of game that I played the campaigns of. I played like Battlefield 1, and I never experienced Battlefield 4 at launch. But after playing Battlefield 4 over the last month or whatever,
Starting point is 01:07:47 it's just it's not the pacing that I kind of want out of a video game. And I am so. excited for blessing more so to try out Halo Infinite because I again wouldn't we talk about the old Halo games and especially I had already mentioned this but when we played Master Chief Collection with Nick it was this sort of like wow so there's no sprint oh man my jump is like so long it just feels like really slow and then in the Master Chief Collection we happen to play a Slayer game in Halo 4 and And Nick was like, oh, this feels great because there's a sprint button because it feels modern. It has that modernized FPS feel.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And I am so excited for Blessing. I think Bless is going to absolutely dig the shit out of this. And we come then to the future class of video games blessing at Eioje Jr. Who is too busy playing. Let me check my notes. Clue this weekend to play any of the Halo stuff. What is your excitement for Halo? Because you are a shooter person too, Blas.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah. I'm super excited for it. Yeah, I've been excited for it since I'll, say about like E3-ish seeing all the reactions during the Microsoft conferences and in kind of feeling the energy off of watching folks like Michael and Tim and Andy get hyper in Paris getting hype for it and talking about it and kind of having that community feeling around it because for me the thing that's always kept me away from Halo is the fact that I've never grown up with an Xbox console Xbox one was my first Xbox console and you know even even by the time
Starting point is 01:09:17 I got one of those I had missed the boat on the new Halo and Halo Mastery Collection And, you know, I'm looking forward to it this fall as an arena shooter. Like, I'm ready to go into it with no expectations in terms of just, you know, not trying to bring any baggage into it, not trying to look to get Apex out of it or call duty out of it or get any sort of other shooter experience out of it. Like, I'm going into it knowing that it is its own thing. And, you know, it's that fun thing of trying to enter a community that's already been a but then already knowing that from watching some of their E3 showcases,
Starting point is 01:09:56 they talked about some of what they're doing to get in newcomers. They talked about some of the training stuff they're doing so that it'll be easy for folks to get in practice because that's been a huge thing, I'd say, for shooters recently. Like you look at games like Apex and they have their firing range where you can get it and just shoot shit. Overwatch has a very similar thing. I'm super high to do that for Halo and just get in, try out all the different guns for your game feel. And even hearing Andy talk about some of the ways in which they've modernized it,
Starting point is 01:10:21 makes Nick Scarpino go, oh shit, I can get my, but get a grasp of this. That stuff makes me excited too. Because watching, I was watching a little bit of the stream that Tim, Andy and Mike did on Sunday and watching them play and seeing the grappling hook and seeing the movement of it and seeing all the, all the familiar stuff that you expect out of a modern shooter, but then also seeing the halo specific energy and halo specific features of it. I'm like, yeah, I'm ready to try it out. I'm actually really hot for it. And I hope it's one of the better shooters of the fall because I feel like this is a pretty competitive fall
Starting point is 01:10:56 in terms of shooters. But then also, I hope it's one of the best games of the year because if it is, that means that I'm going to be able to play one of the best shooters of the year. And it's going to be a thing that's brand new to me as a franchise. So I'm really looking forward to it. You know, jumping off that. What's up, Andy?
Starting point is 01:11:10 I was just going to mention that the, when we see the grappling hook in action in that first sort of single player campaign mode, immediately I go, oh shit, that's going to be a multiplayer thing. That's going to be dope as hell. We're all going to have grappling hooks. There'll be like a cool down or whatever. And then when I heard it was just going to be an item pickup, I was pretty bummed out about it.
Starting point is 01:11:31 I was like, oh, damn, that kind of sucks. But it worked perfectly. It's exactly what it needed to be. It is the equivalent of picking up an over shield or an invisibility thing or a rocket launcher. It is a rare item that you, it'll spawn and whoever gets it gets it. and the moments that you can create, like, holy shit, man. It was so much fun. Watching all the crazy plays that people are pulling off on TikTok,
Starting point is 01:11:56 where they are doing the thing from the trailer, where they throw a grenade behind the rocket launcher. The grenade explodes. The rocket launcher explodes from its spawn, flies in the air, and the guy grapples it in midair, brings a rocket launcher and equips it and shoots it. This game just has those moments, dude. Eddie, I'm watching these videos.
Starting point is 01:12:18 on TikTok just like you. And I'm pulling up Lincoln Parks crawling on YouTube just so I can play it to take me back to those AMV days. You know what I'm talking about? Absolutely. I love that you said that because honestly, that was literally just the exact same thing I was about to say. There are choices made in Halo Infinite multiplayer that I didn't expect even from seeing those
Starting point is 01:12:38 trailers and getting so hype from it. And the grapple hook thing is exactly it. This game, playing it this weekend made me realize something that I hadn't before. And again, this might sound silly for me to say because I, I am not the shooter guy necessarily. I've always had fun playing Halo. I played with my friends that were all way better than me. But I understood it.
Starting point is 01:12:54 I just wasn't good at it. So what was fun there for me is looking at it this weekend and realizing it's everything I love about that game killer queen that the arcade game that I've been talking about for years at this point. It's now on Switch and on the other things where it's just so fun because you're with a group of people. And that, for those that don't know, it's this 2D game, one screen, and it's 4B4, 5E5, depending on how you're playing it, but there are multiple ways to achieve victory. And the idea is you're either this little grunt guy
Starting point is 01:13:24 that can run around and you're like faster than other people, but you can't really attack anybody. Or you get an upgrade. You can shoot people and kill them, but you can't pick up things. Or you're the queen and you can attack and fuck people up. You're super mobile. But yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Thank you very much, Barrett. But if you die... It's the game that broke the studio. Yeah, exactly. If you die three times, as the queen, you lose. The whole team loses. If this dumb snail creeps its way to the end, you lose.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Or if you get a bunch of these dumb berries and get them back to your base, you win or lose, depending on what team you're on. Halo has that same mechanic built into it with the power weapons. You can run around with the weapons that you just spawn with, and you're kind of just the guy that's just running defense, like kind of
Starting point is 01:14:10 causing shit, running amok. Or you can go for the sniper and set up and you're going to become a target, but you're about to wreck shot for a long time. But now with the addition of these abilities being these limited use things, that becomes a new target where you can either go for the grab hammer, which is like this epic weapon that you're about to rack up a ton of kills if you get it, or you can go for the grapple hook.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And you only get a couple shots. There's cool down with it and you're limited to how many times you can use it. But it is a choice you're making that you're doing that instead of going after the people you just saw or going for one of the other power weapons. And I love that in an arena-based game, at least so far. far from what we've played of these three maps. There's so much choice in your play style that you're kind of committing to a lane that you're to, hey, Andy, Pokemon Unite, you know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:15:01 But you're committing to this kind of like type of character that is a role that you're playing within your team almost, right? So while you and Mike were running out to doing all this crazy shit, I'm just kind of running around with the AR and Pistol like doing my best to just kind of like, distract and kill as many people as I can without dying. But it's like, I think that that's the magic of Halo that isn't necessarily there with a lot of the other games that really kind of are all about time to kill and getting out there and moan as many people down as you possibly can.
Starting point is 01:15:33 There's just like a different level of, I don't even want to call it strategy. It's just more like gameplay option that you can kind of play this game how you want to and it's incentivized, but you need to make sure you're playing with your team and that you're not overdoing it because there's only one snipe. you can't like whether the other team gets it or your team gets it only one of you has it yeah and i think that that's a really really really cool thing that is as far as i have played and again i'm not a shooter guy it's pretty uniquely a halo experience correct yeah you're yeah i guess you could do that in a lot of older games right but like in call of duty you have your loadouts
Starting point is 01:16:07 in apex you uh obviously it's a it's a br but you know depending on what you're usually able to choose your web as opposed to i need to go to that spot too get that special power weapon. And if I'm not there, if they take it first, this could get out of hand because they could quickly kind of get on a roll here. So you need to kind of control those power weapons. And I kind of forgot that sort of rhythm of the way a Halo game actually plays out, which is why when a game ends, you see all your stats, your accuracy, which I love.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I love that it shows you like you hit 48% of your shots or whatever. You had this many kills, this many assists. But it also shows you power weapon kills. Because that's, again, for somebody who loved Halo my whole life and didn't play a whole out of five, but played enough, you know, I kind of forgot like, damn, power weapons are so key in this game. Yeah, you know the part that I think we've also forgot to talk about is having the original commentary in the game.
Starting point is 01:17:04 So hearing that double kill, triple kill, oh, my God. First of all, it reminded me a lot of the old school Halo, but also it got me super high. And I'm like, all right, I'm doing pretty good, man. Look, Tim, I'm not a pro shooter. like I'm good you know I can define myself but hearing that while during a match
Starting point is 01:17:22 it felt like oh man I'm getting better and better and it had me up in Vermont yeah yeah yeah and plus the AIs right I think that I think you're touching on something really important here Danny where in a world that I think oftentimes either
Starting point is 01:17:35 relies too much on nostalgia where you're watching a movie trailer and they're just playing the movie theme of the old thing and it's just like okay cool that's all you really have here or it doesn't rely enough like like things like Space Jam Legacy or a new legacy or the Mortal Kombat movie that came out this year. That's like, why aren't you using the songs, guys? Like, this is what we need.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Halo Infinite seems to be kind of doing the perfect thing, which is like, yo, we know that we have something special with the announcer and with the music and with all the different callouts they do of the triple kill, killtacular, like all that stuff. Like we want the old ones, but we want new ones too. We want the stakedacular. We want like all this stuff. but adding the AIs as well like adding the over yonder and like having a you being able to personalize it as well as music kicking in
Starting point is 01:18:21 in the multiplayer matches like halfway through the match like once you're down to the final 10 kills it's like they this game is being made by people that fucking get Halo they get what made the old one special and I don't think it's just a nostalgia thing I think that it is this is something that
Starting point is 01:18:37 other games are lacking is like this level of hype in every multiplayer match making it feel like it's a movie It's a cinematic experience. You are in a war right now and you're fucking feeling it. Like when it's the final, when that music kicks in, if you're ahead, that's giving you that momentum shift. It's some WWEE shit.
Starting point is 01:18:55 We were just like, you're now unstoppable, unsubble. You're about to use your special, you know, or you're on the other side. You're losing. It's just like, oh, guys, this is it. We got to get together. We got to come back. And like, oh, fucking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:09 You know why? I remember when Halo 2 came out and I was asking. everybody the same question. Okay, what are you going to do first? Are you going to play the multiplayer or are you going to play the campaign? Every year we ask that question right now that Halo Infinite is coming out and we played, we got a sneak peek of the multiplayer. Do you see yourself playing the multiplayer first or you're curious enough to start the campaign first for you guys?
Starting point is 01:19:34 It's so funny, Danny, because early on it was all about the campaign. And then as Halo went on, when, even when, even when, shit, I think when like Reach came out and ODST came out and 4 came out maybe even possibly 3 a lot of those were times that my friends and I were all getting back
Starting point is 01:19:55 to somebody's house so we would immediately boot up the multiplayer because by that point I don't know why I had just kind of like I don't need to play the story right now this is not mission critical for me I am this is not like I'm not kind of going
Starting point is 01:20:10 you know Twitter silent because I don't want to see Game of Thrones spoilers. This wasn't that for me. It was just, I just want to get into some matches with my friends because we've been looking forward to the new version of Halo because that new map looked cool in that one game, uh, game informer preview or whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:25 For the new one, it depends on what, how the servers are functioning. Because like with any modern game, there's always server issues and you're probably going to have trouble getting in. But damn, like I'm still really looking forward to the campaign and I want to, I want to experience it and see what it's all about because it just feels like sort of a new stepping off point, you know. Yeah, totally agree with you.
Starting point is 01:20:51 And I think I honestly, I think I will go with the campaign because I just see myself playing multiplayer nonstop for a very long time. But even when the first day it came out, the flight, right? Like I tried to download it and I couldn't download it until the next day. It was just like the servers was being slammed. It was getting slammed. So, but yeah, I think I'm going to try the campaign first. Well, what do, Tim? I mean, I'm a campaign guy for sure.
Starting point is 01:21:18 I mean, honestly, the thing that complicates it the most for me is the most first world problem of all time, which is like the content creator thing where it's just like, if it was up to me, we wouldn't get this game early and we'd get a squad of four. And once this game came out, we would start playing and we wouldn't stop until we beat this motherfucker, right? Like, that is the Halo experience. I did that with two. I did that with three.
Starting point is 01:21:41 I did that with reach. It's like, come on, you know what I mean? But I don't think that that's necessarily going to be as possible this time. So despite that, though, campaign is what I am interested in first and foremost. But I think that's more because that's the thing that is that topical conversation at the time. And like, honestly, that is the thing that is going to differentiate this between being like the best Halo game of all time. And, oh, man, that's the best Halo multiplayer of all time. but the campaign was kind of eh.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm very excited to see people like blessing and, and also Greg, for them playing it for the first time, you know, like I can't wait. I can't wait to hear their thoughts and everything, man. Before we move on too far, I wanted to ask this a while back, but we had so much good things to say that we kept going. What are the things you don't like about what we experienced this weekend?
Starting point is 01:22:33 Because I have very, very few. The quick ones I want to say are, I don't like how the radar works. and that might just be I'm afraid of change and I like how it used to be but I like how it used to be that if you're moving at all
Starting point is 01:22:46 you show up on the radar and you have to crouch walk to like be hidden and now it's like if you're sprinting you show up but otherwise you're hidden and I'm like that seems a little too
Starting point is 01:22:58 fast for what Halo quote unquote should be yeah I think that's a good point because the sprinting is like barely faster than the standard running speed. Yeah. For me, I think the bots, I just, I don't know, people say it was difficult to spartans.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I just didn't find it difficult at all. I wanted more of a challenge for me. No, thank you, sir. No? Tim does not agree. That is not a really. I mean, look, look, like when we played, me, Andy, and Mike were playing as they updated the Spartans.
Starting point is 01:23:30 And there was clearly something wrong because I had my best game against the Spartans as opposed to the ODS. ODST. And I'm like, yeah, there's something wrong there. I don't trust it. They got harder as we kept playing, but I like the bots. And look, obviously, I'm joking around to an extent where it's like, I love that there are different levels. And it reminds me a lot.
Starting point is 01:23:51 I was saying this to bless, I think, on games daily, but it reminds me of Smash Brothers, where I play that game. I've played that game iterations of it for decades of my life with my friends and we play it competitively. I probably play that game competitively more than any other game. Having said that, I played that game mostly against bots. and mostly against the different levels of Smash Brothers characters. And I like that a Level 7, 8, and 9 AI and Smash mean different things that Smash players understand. If you're practicing different things, you use different levels.
Starting point is 01:24:21 And this Halo really kind of showed me like, oh, they get that and they know that. And the ODST and Spartans acted differently enough with clear like paths of how they do things. And it's like, oh, they're incentivizing you to use different levels to practice different elements of this game. that that's really, really cool. Yeah, yeah. No, I agree. I agree with you. When it comes to things I didn't like, I mean, it's small stuff that I think just takes
Starting point is 01:24:46 getting used to because we are so accustomed to what Halo looks and feels like. I think that it is a little too tough to find some of those items like the grappling hook, like the, I just feel like whenever you see the sniper in the middle area of that first map, or the over shield on the bottom of recharge or whatever the hell that. Like those are very much, very obvious. Here is an item. I am an item. Come pick me up.
Starting point is 01:25:18 The grapple hook is a little bit tougher to find. You can hit the Z button when you're playing keyboard mouse and that'll scan around you and kind of do this, you know, environmental scan to show you where the different things are. Yeah. And that, I never quite got used to that mechanic. And that just maybe it needs to become habitual or whatever. but I'd say that I'd say
Starting point is 01:25:39 I really wish you didn't get unzoned when you are shooting long range and that's such a uniquely halo thing because in other games when you are sniping or you are zooming in when you get shot you stayed zoomed in but it's always been a halo thing to like when I'm zooming in if I get shot it takes me out of my zoom
Starting point is 01:26:01 and I just I feel like that's one thing that we can modernize and bring up to sort of a current standard of what happens in video games when you are zooming in. So I found that kind of annoying because I did want to be zooming in with my BR and I'm getting shot at. So I keep getting unzumed and resumed or whatever. Man, aside from that, there wasn't a whole lot that I really, aside from the bugs, like those are just stuff that they're just going to fix because this is very early. But one other thing that I had in addition to the radar was just how the battle pass progression worked.
Starting point is 01:26:34 I love the idea of the challenges and I love the idea of how much they're thrown at you and they're really just incentivizing you playing this game and having fun. But the way that you only got level up experience if you did a challenge as opposed to just playing or killing or like doing well in the game, I thought it was a little bit weird.
Starting point is 01:26:52 And I kind of feel like they're going to change. And maybe I'm just super off on this because this isn't the normal type of game I play. But I think it's weird that like just playing a match doesn't necessarily boost your experience. at all, you know? Like, I kind of feel like, like, if you have a really good game, if you didn't do any of the challenges, you don't get any experience.
Starting point is 01:27:13 That's kind of weird. I see. I see what you're saying. Yeah, that's kind of interesting. It's got to be sort of challenge base where you are getting, you know, five rocket kills or, you know, two melee kills or, you know, behind the back assassinations or whatever. Yeah. And like, it's a simple fix, I think, too, because at least from how I experienced this, like,
Starting point is 01:27:33 you do get experience for every match you play for the most part it was like there's always like you know one out of three matches gets you some type of experience or whatever so three matches will get you X amount of experience points but I feel like just kills should get you even if it's just a small amount small number just to get that bar moving it would just feel better because like there was a couple matches I'm like really I didn't get shit from that like that kind of sucks yeah I didn't level up what the hell yeah yeah yeah do you think we're going to be able to to level up against playing bots when the game comes out sure why not i think it should yeah i mean i mean i'm hoping so i just i hope that that's not something that they decide to to no longer do um i think
Starting point is 01:28:17 you can be able to because i think that this game at least how it's presenting itself so far is i think they made a really good strong statement that it's not like halo leveling used to be this isn't one to 50 where you have to play ranked and you have to be better than everybody else. It is more kind of incentivizing you playing the way you want to play and having fun and, you know, kind of having a good halo time. And I think that that isn't necessarily taking away from the highly competitive people. They're going to still have their ranked playlist and still probably get the most out of the game for what they're looking for.
Starting point is 01:28:50 But I just think there's so much that this game has to offer, even just this one weekend, the amount of things they added and the amount of different playstiles and fun, that was to be had. I definitely think they're keeping that in mind. I wanted to just show this clip because this is just one of those cool-ass fucking grapple hook moments that I had while playing with the squad. I think, oh, you know what? It's a little bit past it.
Starting point is 01:29:14 It already passed Barrett. It's like maybe 15 seconds behind. And just the movement feels freaking fantastic. And when you are in a groove and seeing enemies, and locking on and it's you get into that rhythm of shoot, shoot, shoot, and it's, oh, my God. And it's just, oh, my God. It just feels dope as hell, dude.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Like that momentum and I didn't, it, blessing, it works very much like Pathfinder's grappling hook in Apex. It's the exact sort of same physics where it's not like Widowmaker where you just zip up to that point. It very much is like, I could, I could shoot to that sidewalk and kind of do like a wide swing. Yeah, you can kind of spartrain it a little bit. Yeah, Snowmike Mike has mentioned seeing players like shoot up at a certain
Starting point is 01:30:00 area and sometimes you can swing underneath a level at some like underneath like a bridge Yeah And kind of like do some James Bond shit Like it's crazy Do you know this name of that level that you showed? Recharge.
Starting point is 01:30:16 So that's the level that I feel like I've been playing better than the first one Then they've released the first level Interesting. Yeah I was a monster I was a monster playing that level. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Did you play the third map, Danny? No, I didn't play the third map. Okay. Third map was pretty neat. Bazaar. It introduced the rocket launcher. It introduced the sonar item where you shoot it at a wall and it does this sort of like a Hanzo sonar era
Starting point is 01:30:45 where it shows you anybody in that area that's kind of hiding behind walls or whatever. So you can kind of know where the enemy is coming from and get prepared. And that's kind of huge because. if you're able to do that and shoot a rocket at a doorway, and if there's people near there, they are going to get hit and you'll likely get a double or triple kill. So each kind of, I think they just laid it out kind of perfectly to introduce a new map
Starting point is 01:31:09 that also had new items and weapons to try out. I never got to try out the shotgun, unfortunately, on the first map. Me neither. I picked it up after somebody killed me and then I got killed again, and then I lost it. You're immediately down. Yeah. Understandable.
Starting point is 01:31:25 many a time. Yeah. I feel like you gentlemen can talk about Halo Infinite forever and I feel like there's going to be a lot. Infinite.
Starting point is 01:31:32 I didn't want to go for the puns. I feel like there's a lot more to come. Obviously, kind of funny X-Cast still coming up this week.
Starting point is 01:31:37 They have an X-Cast already up about Halo impressions. I'm sure they will have more. Obviously, Tim, I feel like this will be your game for the fall as we lead into the games
Starting point is 01:31:46 and holiday. Can't wait. Yeah. So for now, ladies gentlemen, let us say goodbye. Kind of. Remember if you go over
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Starting point is 01:32:18 services around the globe each and every week to get a brand spanking new episode of the show. Danny, thank you so much for joining us today. No, thanks. Thanks for an invite. And, yeah, I definitely want to play with you guys once the game comes out. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I saw people on the live chat shouting out on Patreon saying, yeah,
Starting point is 01:32:37 kind of funny gamer tag crossover for when it happens for sure. Let's do it. You know, back then we used to do the battles all the time with different sites. So we got to do that podcast versus podcast. There it is. There is. Dude, yeah. I want to get like the big team battle sort of four teams going.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Oh, that'll be sick. Danny, where can people keep up with you? My Twitter account, Godfrey, I'm very active over there, and also Gamer Tag Radio. Just search for us on every podcast platform. We're out there and, yeah, subscribe and listen. Fantastic.
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