Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Top 25 Most Iconic Nintendo Handheld Games - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 6

Episode Date: February 13, 2020

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Man. You got a miracle in Lane, too. You know what I'm talking about it? I don't know. I bet there's some bad border games about aging Cody Banks. Yeah, yeah, I bet, exactly. That's what we're talking about today. Yeah, probably GVA.

What is his lane two thing? Merkle and Lane 2 was a Disney Channel original movie about him being in a go-kart. Was this like post his appearance on Luzzi McGuire? Yes. Okay. What was the Frankie Munoz horror movie about a video game? Remember what I'm talking about? No, but there was probably a GBA game about that.

It had the dumbest name. I'm trying to remember what it was. I remember there was a scene where he was playing the game on a laptop in a van speeding down the highway. It's the dumbest fucking scene I've ever seen in a horror movie. Is he a kid in it or is this kid in it? He's a teenager. Was this age of Cody Banks? No, this was a horror movie for sure. Stay alive, that was it. Wow.

Never heard of it. Yeah. You gotta love it. You gotta watch it. The Go-Cart one sounds great too. The Go-Cart one is great. But today we are talking about iconic Nintendo handheld games. Now here's the deal, just to get ahead of it.

I want to let you guys know. Last week, we did the... the most iconic Nintendo console games. We saved the Wii U for the post show. You guys are upset about that. We heard you. We understand. We won't do that again.

Where is virtual going to fall between console? So it's funny you bring that up. Virtual boy will be the post show. It's not handheld or console. Get ahead of it. That sounds like fun extra bonus content. That's not actually part of the whole thing. So just to set us straight.

Obviously, whenever you have issues with the decisions we make, let us know. Tweet at me at Tim Yetis. You can go to the Reddit. You can just let us know. We're going to listen. we're going to adapt and we're going to change. We're sorry about that. Totally hear you. Now, back to it. Let's talk about

some portable games. Let's talk about the game board. Now, oh, Sam, actually, I want to define iconic for you because we've had Fran on the show a lot for this stuff and you can imagine how hard this was. Oh, yeah, yeah. He loves those definitions. He demands definitions, but he will oppose your definition. Yes. Until you get it right. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. So we got it down to, not a science, but something here that I feel pretty good about. iconic. Famously and distinctively representing something, instantly identifiable in relation to,

so this system. So, like, identifiable in relation to the Game Boy or the Game Boy Color or Advance or whatever it is. Not necessarily about quality or sales, but those things could factor in and often would factor in because that's how this works. Yeah, the recognition can come from those things. Exactly. But it's not like, we're not just listed in top five selling games on your system. One thing I didn't realize last time, it's famously distinctively. So last time we tried to throw Superman 64 into the N64, which is not going to fit that definition because it's bad. Yeah, I mean, it also didn't make the list because it's more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't need to be exclusive to, but it does need to be tied to.

So an example here is we put Call of Duty Modern Warfare or Call of Duty for Modern Warfare as one of the most iconic 360 games. Even though it's not exclusive, people associated. I have this definite discussion a lot about Resident Evil 4 where it's like, okay, it was a GameCube game. It's a game cube. But then it wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's best maybe on Wii, but like the GameCube is what I've always associated.

How do you feel about Soul Calib or 2? Well, is that a GameCube game? Well, isn't the issue with that? That a lot of people actually like the arcade version a lot. And that was like a variation. For two? Yeah. I mean, definitely not for one.

One was Arcades version. Yeah. And the Dreamcast was definitely lead for that. I don't know about two. Because two is the one that has the characters. Yeah. So that had Link. Yeah.

And then the other ones were... Hayachi and Spahn. Yeah, those are lame. But then the next ones were Yoda and Darth Vader. Yeah, that was like where it got more even. Well, next one was PSO exclusive, then Yoda and North Vader. I think the fact that Nintendo worked on the arcade version, which was basically the GameCube version,

and then also put Link in it, that's definitely a game game game. You hear that, Fran? Then again, Fran was in at the time, right? He was covered... All the things that I know came from him writing about them on iTunes. Yeah, exactly. He was arguing for Eternal Duran. darkness, which is a great game.

Oh, man. But I don't know if that one holds up. It has those like Resident Evil style camera angles and stuff like that. It's really cool and scary. We shouldn't be talking about it. And then the last thing is not necessarily limited to one

per franchise. So for our Xbox original list, Halo and Halo 2 both made it because I'm always a proponent of that. That makes sense. There's a bunch of GTAs that are probably better than every other game on that system. So there you go. So that's it. Those are the rules. Cool?

Game Boy. We're starting Is that Game Boy slash Game Boy Color? I'm going to say yes Unless you guys make an argument against it Because I feel like there's not There's two generations, but yeah They're the same

But Game Boy Color was like two years Like it was like what, 98 to 2000? 2001 was Game Boy Advance It's just like you know Game Boy that those years Where Pokemon was out It was definitely on both You know and then there wasn't a lot of things

That were like you gotta get this in color There were some exclusive Game Boy color games And one of them I'm gonna suggest for the list but I don't know that we should be augmented, right? Mostly augmented, like, the DX series. There was a couple of notable exceptions,

I believe, like Ghost Babel and Pokemon Crystal. Yeah. Pokemon Crystal, you're right. Yeah. So before we get to those, though, was yellow? Yellow was not.

Okay. Just augmented? Augmented, yeah. Yeah, we combine this. What are you saying, Kevin? Oh, you're right. That's a good call. That's a good call.

So before we do the keyboard thing, even. What is our history with the Nintendo Portable Systems? Sam, let's start with you. Okay, I got the Game Boy on my, I don't know, like 10th birthday or something, the year it came out that Christmas season. And I remember it distinctly because I wasn't a bad kid, but I could see through the wrapping paper that year. And I could see like the robot hands holding the Game Boy on the box. And it was like, you know, a distinct memory I have that year, which is great.

And then, of course, I loved Tetris and Super Mario Land, everything like that. And I just, I loved the Game Boy. Introduced me to RPGs through the Final Fantasy Legend. series. And it's great. And of course, since then, I've gotten everything. All the systems. DS. Yeah, I'm a big virtual boy collector, too. I have the full run. I just completed it with Nestor's funky bowling. Arm, what about you? Let's see. I remember my brother getting a Game Boy before I did. I remember losing my shit about that. So my parents bought me, or my aunt bought

me one at a KB toys just to stop me from freaking out about it with Kid Dracula. I I think it was my first game. Wow. Do you still have it? I don't. I would imagine now. Do you know why you wanted a kid Dracula? Why I wanted that game?

Yeah. Because that's obscure at the time. I really liked Castlevania. So you knew. And that was the right choice because Castlevania Adventure is trash. Yes, it absolutely is. I bought a GBA in high school. I bought DS just, I think, was the first handheld I ever bought with my own money.

Then I pretty much bought every dude had no handheld out there except maybe. I own a Game Boy Color. I don't remember if I bought it at launch or not. But it has a copy of Lernerner. player at launch? Not at launch. I think I was, at that point I was playing Pokemon games on emulators.

So probably not, probably like, in the ugly great area. Well, the early Gameboy employs are really cool. They were. They had a little, you know, the marquee or whatever around the Game Boy.

It looked really pretty. I remember getting those up and running very early. Yeah, you get Super Game Boy stuff on there, which is like the, you know, that's the ideal. If you're going to play our Donkey Young 94, you want the Super Game Boy stuff.

Yeah, I never played Super Game Boy in person until later too. Like I didn't buy one of those. It seemed like a waste. Yeah. Bless. So I was a kid, like a child child when like the Game Boy came out. Or not even when the Game Boy came out.

I don't even when the Game Boy came out. ADA. Yeah, I was born in 94. Yeah. But when I was a kid, I had a Game Boy Color. Like Game Boy Color was my entry point. Played a lot of Pokemon. Definitely was a Pokemon kid.

And I feel like for me, I had a lot of like strange games on the Game Boy. So my family's Nigerian and my parents to travel back and forth from Nigeria. And I remember them coming back from Nigeria with, cartridges that were like 120 games and one or whatever. I'd only heard about them at the time and now I pick them up whenever I see them. Yeah and so I had I had like quite a few of those cartridges which were like just a bunch of like random like I mean, isn't it Mario Land? Yeah, many times on there. Yeah. 100% yes. And so I'd play like a bunch of weird versions of Mario land and like like a weird versions of multiple games. Like I think there was like a, was there a castle video game on Game Boy?

Yes. I think I had a weird version of that. The Castlevania Adventure. It might have been just the regular version because the regular version's really weird. Yeah, well, I had like a lot of that and then like, I think I spent most of my time actually playing Uguio Dark Dual Stories. Yeah, dude, that was like my jam jam. But yeah, I had that. Got, had a Game Boy Advance. Didn't have like any like the 101 Game Boy games for that, but I did, I did have like stranger games. Like I had Pokemon, you know, which everybody had Pokemon. I had Warrior Wear and I had like a few of like the mainstream like, oh yeah, everybody played these games. But then I had like a lot of like, I played Street Fighter on Game Boy Advanced, which was actually pretty nice. The Alpha port is actually

surprisingly amazing. Yeah, I remember it being like really fun. I can't remember. I think that was the straight. That sounds about right. That came to Super Nintendo really late too. I just remember using Akumo a lot. That's all I remember. It's like trying to figure out like how do how does Akum work in this game? But I had that had like a teching game on Game Boy Advance. I think there was like also Tony Hawk Pro Skater game I had. Hell yeah. Yeah. TdPS2. They did a job with us. Yeah. No like the early Game Boy, Tony Hawk games are surprisingly good for ports of console games. But yeah, the the weird thing

about my Nintendo history is that I didn't have a DS and I didn't have a 3DS because I forget what happened at the time. I think I was living in Nigeria. Something happened to where my parents didn't get those from me, but I did have other consoles and so I was fine with it. And now I'm back again with Switch. So there you go. Yeah, I

was similar to you where I was like too young for the original Game Boy. And like when the Game Boy color came out, like we still didn't have enough money to get it. So I had to wait a little late for Pokemon. Like I didn't get Pokemon right away. I got stuck like my friends all played it and then I played like probably like six months later

and that's why I had to choose Bulbosur so we could trade some bullshit Was the cartoon like full swing and stuff of that? Oh yeah, I was all in already I don't get it! Well I had played like I borrowed my friends like for a weekend and played through but I didn't have my own Pokemon until like later

but I didn't even have Game Boy color even though it was out by that time I had a blue Game Boy pocket and it was freaking awesome and God the Game Boy Pocket such a nice little size. Do you remember the Game Boy Advanced SP? Oh yeah dude that Colbalt blue? I had a friend that had that and I was so jealous.

I was like, dude, let me just play Spider-Man 2 on this real quick. That's the definitive Game Boy Advance. It's so great. I love it. I love the micro for like how like unneeded and unnecessary it is, but the clamshell was so good for that. Yeah. Yeah, I went from the Game Boy Pocket.

I never had a Game Boy Color. Then I skipped. I got a Game Boy Advance on launch day and I got a Game Boy Advance on launch day. I did not get the DS, but Alfredo did. And so because I went PSP. He went DS. and then we had to just like share it all the time. I ended up winning out there because of the emulators.

You were probably covering games during the DS era a little bit. God no, no, no, no. I was in high school still. 3DS would be, okay. 3DS, yeah. 3DS was, uh, my first E3 I ever did was when the 3DS was announced. Yeah, okay. Um, and then, yeah, so DSI I didn't have until all the DSLight.

That came after the DSI, right? Yeah, so DSLIT was later. Yeah, so it was light. I had the last one. It was light and then the DSI added some kick to it. So you can play some games with some magic. I had the DSI then. And then 3DS.

I didn't get a 3DS at launch. I waited and I got it when the XL came out. And then Switched day one, obviously. I got one at launch. Bad move. Not a great move finding a 3DS at launch. A little steel diver action. A little street fighter.

Bad street fighter and hind dogs. Yeah. All right. Let's get into it. Game Boy games. I feel like there are two very obvious ones that are going to be complete lots. I'm curious that are obvious ones are. Tetris.

Yes. And then. I guess this is I'm gonna leave this up to y'all Like how are we doing Pokemon Because like they're different versions I think red blue yellow I think red blue yellow makes the most sense

Yeah If we count it as one game If we count it as one, okay Yeah I could almost see an argument To have red and blue as one And then yellow is another I would almost say we should Because like it is a different

It's the same game But like I feel like yellow added so much Like of the anime stuff If we're gonna do different Pokemon games I'd probably throw in golden silver over yellow Honestly And then that's my thing A few different Tetris games

We could add in Hattress It's Tetris. It's Tetris with hats. It came out on everything. I feel like there's an argument. We don't need to talk about this. There's an argument to include both golden silver and red and blue, similar to how we did the halos. I feel like both of them are like iconic enough to the con or to the handheld. I think golden silver should go on the maybe list.

Yeah, I agree. I see how this works out. Yeah, I'm with that. I think blue and red for sure on the list. Yeah, that's undenive. Possibly. I already made the thumbnail for this video. It's already blue and red. I feel other ones that we have to put in there, Legend of Zelda, Link's Awakening. Right?

Yeah. And we're almost done. Yeah. So that's the thing. It's like, we're going to go through. We'll just name a bunch of them that might make it and then we'll like make the arguments a whittle down.

It's funny. Like that system deserved a good Metroid. And it got a terrible Metroid 2. Yeah. So it doesn't need Metroid 2. And I wouldn't necessarily put this in a top 5. But if you guys, it did get a good Kid Icarus.

And there's a Metroidvania style. I don't use that word normally either. It's just a Metroid like. a Kid of Curis game. It's really cool called Myths and Monsters. Yeah. It's great. Yeah.

But if nobody here has played it, it's not going to go to the iconic list. Also, because nobody knows it is. Well, it's not iconic. Yeah. But Metroid 2 kind of was, and Metro 2 kind of sold systems at the time, but nothing like Pokemon or Tetris. Yeah, exactly. And those are kind of the bookends of popularity for the two eras of Game Boy.

Like, Tetris, I know, like, you know, we all know Pokemon era a lot better, but in the era of Tetris, like, everybody was talked about Tetris. And it was in everything. It was in movies. and TV and everything, just completely ubiquitous, which I think is really cool. And the Game Boy version...

For being the same system as... Yeah, the Game Boy version. Yeah, but the Game Boy version itself kind of like transcended all of that. So even though it was everywhere, it was the one. It was the one that. And arcades before that,

like Atari published it in Arcade. So it's like the fact that Nintendo got the license, put it on a handheld, and put it on NES, but people didn't care about those other things very much. They just cared about the Game Boy was huge. And the story of how they got the license

was like the most, like, insane story. Like, in David Sheff's, game over to describe it. I basically like Nintendo executive went to Soviet Russia at the time to like negotiate for the rights for Tetris. Yeah, and there's some middle people and stuff like that involved, which you know, to this day are involved in the Tetris company that made those deals happen. But, you know, at the same time, like in that year, Sega published it in arcades in Japan, all right? Nintendo published it here and Atari published it in

arcades here. Isn't that crazy? Sega, Nintendo, and Atari all had Tetris for a license. Like somebody played all those companies Yeah I feel like it's kind of still like that right Because we got Tetris 99 Published by Nintendo We got Tetris Effect That was

UBSOX? No that was a UBSOFTEX Enhance self-published Self published Self published Yeah And then there was the Ubisoft

The Disney one Petrus Ultimate or something like that They lost the license Was the Ubysoft one Yeah you're right though Tetris is still playing And that's called the Tetris Company They keep on making these deals

I very simply remember Like when I was a kid watching 2020 with my mom and they had a story about businessmen carrying Game Boys with Tetris in their briefcases. It was like, this new thing is taking over the world. It's like, our video games is the next huge thing. It's like, yeah, a fucking course they are. Wasn't there like a first lady or president who talked about how much they liked playing Tetris on the Game Boy?

Would it had to be been Clinton, I don't know. Obama has a Pac-Man sticker on his life. I feel like it was Michelle Obama. I'm going to look it up. Possibly. That's awesome. The funny thing about the Game Boy, though, is it lasted so long. Yeah, it was.

generation for it was like over a decade. Yeah, 12 units if you count the color. And like, yeah, and I feel like you do count the color. It's like the color had, it's similar to like the new 3DS. It's like those are 3DS games. You don't count them as their own thing. Nintendo just didn't take backwards compatibility lightly at the time. They're really cavalier about it.

So the fact that they put out a variant system and then they said, oh, you can play your Game Boy games on it. That was actually a big deal at the time. Parents really liked that. Yeah, definitely. You want a new system. It doesn't play your old games. Get out of here. But it's a weird thing with Game Boy, though, because the generation was so long, but it does.

does have these eras where it's like there's the early games and then there was just like there was just a lot of games and they weren't bad it's not like the we where it's just like shovelware shovel wear shovel wear but it's like tons of shovelware but like I feel like it also just had tons of good games but like it wasn't until like 98 when things really started kicking up again with Pokemon and then the Oracle games and there was some excitement about porting to portable at the time where it was like there wasn't a lot of you know there were other systems competing with the Game Boy but boy the Game Boy took off so much that like everybody is like, let's shrink our game and make it black and white. And that totally took the world by storm. And that's why shovelware happened. But all these NES games and Super Nintendo games constantly got ported to the Game Boy. And those are things we forget about because they're by nature inferior. They don't have color. They have fewer buttons and it just sucks to play them.

So a lot of the things that we're talking about, like, icon-wise, like people love ports at the time and we don't care about those anymore. So with that, some of the games I think kind of transcended through that were ports but enhanced and made better on Game Boy, Donkey Kong 94. Yeah, that's a perfect example. It's the best version of Donkey Kong. Not even a version of Don Kong, but fundamentally taking that game and making it a better thing overall.

Yeah. Yeah, well, it's the peak of the series. I mean, after that, they went to minis and all this other garbage. Yes. There's a Mario versus Donkey Kong game, which is pretty good. But, like, yeah, it's, you know,

there will always be the amazing Donkey Kong arcade games for whatever they are historically and everything. But, man, what a cool platformer. It's just like a great Mario game in addition to a Donkey Kong game. Yeah. Moving on from this, though, Mario Land, the series. I feel like some of those need to get some type of representation.

I would make the argument for Super Mario Land 2. Sixtholder 1, 6-0. Mario Land 2, it's the most Mario-like of the two games. Mario Land 1 is just a weird thing. Mario Land 1, while not a port of Super Nintendo game, felt like it was just trying to do Mario portably, and it didn't do it. Mario 1.

No, you're right. Yeah. It had some shooter levels, which is weird. But it had no influence. By the time Mario Land came out, it was like Mario 3 was out and everything. So they're like, oh, we can have suits and we can have really cartoony looks and everything. I just really like how much it did.

I mean, if you see it now, it's so zoomed in and slow and all that stuff, but it's so creative. You go inside a giant robot Mario's guts in that game. Yeah, MarioLand 2. I think is a great game, and I do think it's iconic too. Introduce Wario. The Game Boy. And Waria. So throwing one on the Maybe List is one of the Warioland games. There are different kinds

of games, though, which is it makes it difficult. Wasn't there only one? There were on Super Mario Land. On Game Boy, there were three. Super Mario Land 3 is called Warland. But then the other ones are on Game Boy Advance, right? No, Worryland 2 was a Game Boy game. Really? Just a second one.

I missed that. Three was a Game Boyle-Colored game, I wanted to say? It just kept going, huh? Royal Land 2 was the most interesting one because it was that game where you can't die. No matter what you do, whatever enemies do to you, you just get set back slightly or you'd use it to solve a puzzle. So, let's say there's a thwomp. And in a Mario game, a thwomp would traditionally kill you. But because Wario is not Mario, he just gets flattened by it, which you

to sneak through other parts of the level. Oh. Interesting. So it's puzzles based on the platforming areas, but it's not reliant on you dying. Yes. Okay. Yeah, it's funny because I, would you recommend that any of those are iconic? I didn't even know the existing.

I think I would put Warrior Lin one on the maybe list. I don't think it's going to beat the Mario, or Mario Land too. I feel like when you look at the Mario Land games, it's like Mario Land 2 is so much more iconic than one or three, even though like three was Mario's game, you know? Yeah. Like his first real game? Wario Land came out in 1994, and that was Super Mario Land 3. And then Warholand 2 came out 98 for Game Boy Color.

And then Wario Land 3 came out in 2000 for Game Boy Color. And then Warland 4 was for Game Boy Advance. Yeah. Okay. So much Wario for me to dip back into. I forget about these games. So a lot of land games on the Gamebo. We had the Kirby Dreamland games, the Donkey Kong land games.

I see while we're still on that Mario Train, I want to throw in Super Mario Bros. Deluxe. Like, I feel like that was, at the very least worth mentioning, I would probably put it on my own list, but I could understand. why like maybe overall it's more Super Mario Brothers one but also like it's so it's a very good version I think of Super Mario Brothers one I think that is a definite time thing for us where it's like I also look at that game fondly but it's not a very good version of Super Mario Brothers one that's how I changed the physics a little bit I really upset people they change the aspect ratio too and the camera yeah that's the aspect ratio kind of ruined it but like I feel and maybe this maybe this is

a time thing of me playing that game as a kid and loving it so much that I like they added like weird features in there, like they're like multiplayer stuff you can do. We can compete against other player. Yeah, that's what I was looking for. And it's like simultaneous co-op, right? Yes. Yeah. Which is like, it's basically the program type for a new Super Mario Brothers.

Yeah. And it was the forerunner of the porting all the Super Mario Brothers games to the Game Boy Advance. Yeah. It's kind of the start of that. Yeah. I don't think we could put it on the iconic list, but it's, I love that game. Game Boy Camera.

It's weird. That's funny. But I mean, I feel, I feel like that this, it's, it's, it's, this, when you're talking about iconic, it's like that was a thing that when you people think about Game Boy, it comes up in their minds. I bought new old stock rolls of paper recently for the printer.

I don't know if they were. It had a really cool thing where like, or not cool, I guess, but the error messages, if you didn't like slot something incorrectly were like fucking frightening. Like just weird sounds and like weird pictures of Mia Modos like face melting or something. It's strange. Wow. That's weird. But the Game Boy Color

was like, I think, a moment. Like I remember What is it for? besides taking pictures and giving me to your friends. There's games that it would tie it into. Yeah, it was like those weird little, like, they're games, but it was just kind of like old school Instagram filters, essentially. So mainly for printing stickers, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There was a canceled, perfect, dark thing with it, where you were supposed to be able to take pictures of your, like, friends and family members, and then, like, put them on faces and multiplayer matches. And then someone was like, hey, someone's going to take a picture to their teacher and shoot them. It's like, oh, yeah, we can't do this. I can't have this thing out. So that feature, I think you can hack it out still, but there's like no real way to get it to work.

That's so cool. Yeah. Any other games you guys want to throw out there? Metal Gear Solid. Ghost Babel? Yep. There we go. Wow.

It is a fucking fantastic game. Honestly, it might be one of the best Metal Gear games. It's just nobody real played it because it was like a 99 game-by-collar game. Yeah. That's my thing is like, I don't know if it would make an iconic list because it does feel kind of forgotten about it. Yeah, it's like very obscure. It's dope, though. They made Donkey Kong countries that I never experienced.

Yes. I played those. Are any of those standouts? No. They're bad. They're not good. They were bad ports. I remember like, recently I went back actually because I like going back and

listen to random video game soundtracks. And I went back. I was searching for the Donkey Kong country soundtrack. It's fantastic on Super Nintendo. And the Game Boy version started to come up. And I was like, oh, yeah. I did play this on Game Boy. I went and listened to it.

And I was like, this is terrible. You guys should listen to the Donkey Kong country Game Boy soundtrack. It is offensive. It's bad. The Game Boy advanced one... Chip Toony, though? No, it's like... It strips any of the soul from the other...

Is the Game Boy? It's some pretty good sounds. It's a stereo. Like, they did a good job. Sometimes they hear a Game Boy soundtrack. I'm like, wow, that's on Game Boy? Yeah, no, and the Game Boy version of Donkey Kong Country just looks...

Like, the whole thing about Donkey Kong Country on Super Nintendo is that, like, it looked different. Like, at the time, it looked amazing because they went for a different style graphically. And then, like, yeah, the audio stuff was fantastic. And, like, the soundtrack of something. The whole presentation of Donkey Kong is fantastic. And having that game on Game Boy,

like any part of the presentation that was great was just stripped back and just did not work. And so the core game was there. Like the game played like Donkey Kong, but it didn't sound or look or like present like Donkey Kong. And so it was kind of ruined in a way. They didn't actually recognize that music problem at some point because like when they did Dong Kong Country 3 on GBA, they had David Wise recompose a new con soundtrack.

So like that soundtrack is completely unique for. the Game Boy event hardware. That's great. Do you guys ever play Alleyway? No. Yes. That's an early Gameboy game that's based on breakout, which is, you know, you move a platform and the Steve Jobs designed game where you bounce a ball off bricks.

Yeah. Nintendo made it and all the designs in the beginning. And like if you were like saying like, oh, the perfect puzzle game ever about blocks is on Game Boy and it's Tetris, like this is like it's brother. And a lot of people bought it at the time for that reason, I think. Also, shout out to Yu-Gi-O dark dual stories. Not a great Yu-Gi-Gi-O game, but it's the one I play. And now, now jumping off of that, a game that I do think is iconic to the Game Board,

but I wouldn't put a top five is Pokemon trading card game. Oh. Because that was a game that, like, jumped off of the Pokemon craze, took the card version of it, and then made an excellent RPG out of that. Yeah, that game is the most... That's going to bring up RPGs. That probably is... That and Pokemon are, like, really good examples of portable RPGs.

I've never seen a game more blatantly cheat than that game. Because, like, every... It'll be like 10 coin tosses in a row that will all go against... you no matter what. Yeah. So, Sam, I kind of have a blank spot when it comes to a lot of the Final Fantasy games. Yeah, so there's a really amazing one that,

I don't know, like we were just talking about this Final Fantasy Adventure, which is actually the first secret of mana game, a perfect game about, you know, stabbing monsters and exploring Zelda style. So it's a Zelda clone. Really wonderful game. And then there's the three Final Fantasy legend games, which are, they're obnoxious and old feeling,

but like, you know, we didn't have much. much else at the time. They're all like Final Fantasy 1 mainly. One, two, three. I wouldn't recommend any of those. But Adventure, though, that is a killer game that everybody should play, and it's in the recent monoc collection. Do you think that it's iconic to the Game Boy? You know, the

problem with all Final Fantasy is that I would say, you know, Final Fantasy 1, 4, and 6 of that era are the most iconic, and nobody ever mentions this. So, like, I already know which ones from that era are, and Game Boy, it's hard to say. Yeah. We'll see what people write in and talk about. I know if Jared's listening.

He'd back on the FFF Adventure. The Zelda Oracle games, I think that's another situation that is similar to Pokemon, where I'd count them as the same, even though they are different games. These games are amazing. They're amazing, but I think that Link's Awakening is in such

a different league in terms of... It got lucky, because it got a reissue this year. Well, and also, it had to reissue for Game Boy Color. Yes, it did. Yes, it did. It's being kept to top of mind. I don't know. I'd be... It's hard. It's hard with the Pokemon games.

Like, we got to choose a spot that has either Pokemon games or Zelda games in at this point, it sounds like. There was one of those Oracle games that was supposed to be a remake of Zelda 1, and I can't remember which one it was, but like, you could see where it starts to diverge. That's the kind of way I want remakes to work. Like, this is kind of like what I think it is, but actually now it's going to be totally different towards the end. There's just to be a whole third game in that, too. And the connection between those games is really fun. You take these, like, chains of codes based on your name, so they're not unique unless you use somebody else's name. then you can get them off, you know, online on igin.com.

But then you take those and you put them in, you have like a new game plus type thing in your other game. Like it was really interconnected and cool. We get remakes to those. They're beautiful also. Yeah, so much fun. But okay, now let's start wielding this down. So Tetris is on the list for sure. Yes.

Mario Land 2? Sure. For sure. Pokemon Red and Blue for sure. Yeah. Links Awakening for sure. Yeah. So we have that slot.

We have one more spot. I think gold and silver go there. I don't like those games. What's the rest of them? You don't like those games? No. Wow. I think the Pokemon go downhill from the first one.

I've never heard anybody say that ever. Top tier, man. I mean, I respect it. The actual pocket monsters are lame in it. Oh, the actual Pokemon. Yeah, like the 151 are like amazing. And I thought they, I can't even name one from those games. Oh, man, dude.

I would argue. I get it, but I would argue that the 251 are like, they're there. I feel like that's me. I feel like that's me with every generation. I feel like with every generation of Pokemon, I can name less and less. But I feel like that's me. also like, is that Pokemon on this? Yeah.

And then the you know, of course I watched the anime a lot during that time and like I never saw an anime episode that even featured at second season. I just don't think I was into Pokemon. Oh man. It's a whole new world to be in, man. What was else on the maybe list besides

I remember that ho-o tease? That was weird. In episode one. So Metro 2. Pokemon Yellow, but nah. Kirby's Dreamland, Metal Gear, Pokemon trading card game, fall fantasy adventure,

Zelda, Oracle of Ages. Donkey Gong 94. I think Donkaw is the only one. The only one that I see... Yeah, that's the only one that's competing. DK94 could be in there. Do you want, DK94 was a huge push by Nintendo. Like, they launched a Super Game Boy with it.

So, DK94 was their big thing of, hey, you can... These are not only handheld games, but also console games. It graced the cover of Nintendo Power in a heavily Super Nintendo area. On a best list, I could see putting like 94 in gold and silver,

even with that, then taking off blue and the other color, red and blue. Gen 1, Gen 2. Yeah, but as far as, like, iconic, then I think it's, you had to put golden silver on there before 94. I agree. What if we replaced Mario Land with Donkey Kong 94? I don't think you can. I would recommend people go play it now, but that's a different type. Yeah, that's different.

So I feel like we should vote then on Donkey Kong 94 or Pokemon Gold or Silver. No, you guys can have golden silver. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah, I totally get it I would go with either one. Yeah, it's close. It's definitely, I think, five and six.

The fact that we've talked about it in this way gives me a button. Okay, so, Pokemon Gold and Silver, making the list. Moving on to the Game Boy Advance. By the way, we got away with, what, like nine games there because of the extra colors. Yeah, exactly.

So it'll be so much easier for the top nine. Game Boy Advance. Start us off, him, bro. I mean, we're going to end up having this conversation a couple of times, but Pokemon Ruby Sapphire. Oh my guess.

They just get worse. So Ruby Sapphire, definitely. The question I have is Fire Red and Leaf Green. The first remakes. Oh, shoot, I forgot. I forgot those came out on Game Boy Advance. Yes, they did.

Oh. Are those good? Yeah, they're great. They're awesome. It's such a good idea that they did that at the time too because it made it so much easier to get all the Pokemon you want.

Exactly. I would say they're on there, but I'm down for talking about it way more. You know what we fucking forgot for the Game Boy? Mario Guller. I didn't forget it Mario Golf I do associate Mario Golf with

Nintendo 64 a little bit more For me it was the Game Boy Color because of that RPG mode Which was great Camelot man But I guess like it wouldn't get any other lists But just want to throw that out Shout out to it I'm gonna say

Metroid Fusion Yeah it's gonna go straight Metroid But I think Zero Mission is the You shouldn't I mean that's the problem with this Is that they came out so close to each other I think more people were probably recognize Fusion.

Boy, Zero Mission's a better game. My thing is Zero Mission is a better game. Easily. I freaking love Zero Mission. But I think that the suit from Fusion was so... You know how... Zero suit, Samis is pretty on the tip of the tongue at this point. That's true.

But you know how Crash Bandicoot like screams 90s? I feel like the Fusion suit screams Game Boy Advance. Yeah, I think so, yeah. It was the right color scheme and everything. I just feel bad because Metroid Zero Mission's got it all. And then there's the Castlevania's. And then there's the Castlevania. Is that aria of something?

Ari of sorrow, which is the best one, I would say. Yes. Yeah, I think people go with that. Well, because Circle the Moon is not like those ones. Yeah. And then there's Harmony of Dissinance. Maybe is the other one? Harmony Disson.

No, the Disson is called Dawn of Sorrow. You're right, because the D.N.S. And then Order of Ecclesia and then Portrait of Rune, then Order of Ecclesia. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of feel like Aria of Sorrow. That's the one. And that one has Al-a-Card as a main character and stuff like that. I'm looking through this list.

There's like a shit tone. and we still like have to... Yeah. Golden Sun. Golden Sun, I think, is on that damn list. I know people... You know, that's their favorite game of all time. Advance Wars is perfect. Warrior Wear.

Warrior Wear. Twisted? Right? I would go first. I would go to first one also. Twisted's good. It's really good. I think the first one's more iconic there. People didn't used to think...

We were just talking about this ahead of the show. It used to be all twisted. Everybody said, Twisted is the one to do. But I've been sliding backwards myself. Love the first one. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. I feel like... That's a place.

station game. Yeah. Even though it's a different game, it's like. Well, if you had to choose one, I mean, Advance Wars, people are going to,

that's the one, one that I don't know is going to make it, but I at least want to talk about is Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, I think that one's definitely iconic, but that might be top 10 and not top five. I agree with you. And I think that, like, it, there was something about it

that helps it be iconic, but not necessarily in a good way because it wasn't Mario RPG and people wanted Mario RPG. Yeah, because they wanted Paper Mario. Yeah,

I was a Paper Mario person coming into it, I was like, I get what this is, and it's cool that they're doing, like, really fun things with these characters, but at the same time, I'd rather just play Paper Mario. Yeah. Kingdom Hearts, Chain of Memories? No. I don't, yeah.

No. I don't know, man. I mean, like, first Kingdom Hearts on Nintendo platform. But it was also the second Kingdom Hearts ever. Yeah. But, I mean, still, that was like a... Is this a tough crowd for Kingdom Hearts fans? No, I like Kingdom Hearts a lot.

Yeah. I think Guter Memories is better on PS2 And also it still sucks Yeah, it does suck But that's not all we're asking I think it's fine I think it was very cool that they had FV on the GBA But like

I think we get through 50 Our 15 other games You're over here That's the thing is I think it's noteworthy But I think there are definitely A lot of other games That would come before it

I feel like what I was saying About the Game Boy Library Being like so vast But like so just good I feel like Game Boy Advance Has a lot of great games And like very few perfect games Well it was weird

Because it's like If you look at what Nintendo themselves did for it, it's probably their least hands-on system. Because they've put out more first-prudies after for almost every... There was no original Mario for Game Boy Advance. Which brings me to my next topic, Yoshi's Island. Super Mario Advanced. Not a great game.

Everybody had that game. It was the Super Mario Advance game. It was the Super Mario Advance game. That was so big. It sold my little sister on a Game Boy Advance. She never played a game in her life. That game was everywhere. I mean, Yoshi's Island. Probably my favorite game of all time. I mean, they ruined Yosh's Island for it. It was everywhere. So you think

Mario World was it? Or Mario 3? Well, um... I don't think any of the Mario Tomasize. Yeah, I don't know. I think that this is one of those ones. Man, Yoshi's Island was so big on GBA. I can't even think of owning a GBA without Yoshi's Island. Huh? I wonder why. They had a whole second life.

They pushed it hard. I feel like I remember commercials. I'm pretty sure I remember commercials for it and being like... Yeah, I remember commercials for all of those. I think it was a really near launch. No, Yoshi's Island was late, late, late. So... The launch was Mario 2.

Yes. Game Boy Advance. Super Mario. Super Mario, but they didn't go in Oregon. order. One was Mario 2. Super Mario Advance 2 was Mario World. Super Mario Advanced 3 was Yoshi's Island. Yes. Super Mario Advance 4 was Super Mario Brothers 3. Wow. Yeah. And that's the E-card. E-cards. Yeah. So I'm going to throw out what Nintendo thinks the essential GBA games are based on what they put on the ambassador program for the 3DES.

Cool. Cool. So F-Zero, maximum velocity. Oh, okay. No, that's not. Yoshi's Islander, Zelda, Minish Cap. Minish Cap. Yeah. Minish Cap. It's great. Fire Armour in the Sacred Stones, Kirby in the Amazing Mirror, Mario Kart Super Circuit, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Warioware, Inc. Metroid Fusion, Waria Land 4. Yeah, they nailed a lot of them in there.

Can I say something controversial? Go for it. Mother 3. Hmm. You know what? It's definitely been talked about it a lot. That's a interesting. But my thing with that... I should have never play Mother 3. I feel like more people would associate it with just... The emulators?

Yeah. With like current systems, even though it's not on them. I've played quite a bit of my Mother 3, but an unofficial translation, like most of us have. And people want that game. Yes. But I don't think they associated with GBA. I mean, it was only on the GBA, though.

But I feel like there's more people now that just want it just because... Because they know it exists. They know it exists than associating with the Game Boy Advance. Yeah, I think I'm iconic is a harder thing to do for that one. Yeah. Telling you guys about Yoshi, you don't believe me. But I was there. I don't know.

Because I remember trying, I was like, oh, this doesn't have enough buttons, and I stopped playing. I kind of loved it because I loved the trigger, like the shoulder buttons being used for the, like, aiming the egg. And, like, that wasn't how it was on Super Nintendo. And I prefer the Game Boy version in that respect, not in any of the other respects. Although it had bonus levels that were extremely difficult. Those were a lot of fun. Did we put Minish Cap on that list? Do we?

The problem is it came out around the Oracle games and those were better. No, work games are geared earlier, right? Those are right on the heels of it. I think it was like a six-year difference. Minish Cap would have been 2004. It wasn't a six-year difference. I think it was. Minish Cap must have been 2003?

It's later than that. Yeah, Oracle games are in the 2000s. Were they? Yeah. That was 99. They were like 2001. Misch-Kat came out in 2004. Yeah, it's the same team, so they could not have come out that often or that quickly.

But that's the thing. Capcom only had that license really briefly. They churned out those games. Figuring it out. But Minish Cap, I don't think... The Oracle Games for 2001, so they were three years apart. Oh, wow. The old guy knows what it was up because he was there

and buying those... Those years, they blur together. Three years is not a short amount of time, so... It is for three Zelda games, like Capcom? There was a weird part in, like, 2000 to 2006 where Nintendo was really fucking heavy on Zelda for no real apparent reason. I guess because Akrona did so well.

But, I mean, they had two Zelda's on GameCube. Yeah, not by then. Well, they were just getting at Wind Waker, and then they did their horrible Four Swords swords games. I like the GameCube. Foursards were dope. The GameChymon lives by. For Game Boy Advance, does Pac-Man versus count?

I don't know that it would make the list, but, like, God, it was a moment. It was a whole E3. Yeah, infamous, sure. So, again, trying to narrow this list down. The ones that I have bolded right now are, Golden Sun, Castlevania Ari of Sorrow, Metroid Fusion, Advanced Wars, Ruby and Sapphire, Fire Red and Leaf Green

for Pokemon, and WarioWare. Warioware. Oh, Warioware, not Wario Land. Yes. Definitely. Any others that... Fire emblem, I think, should be one of those. See, I have an argument against it. It was the first American Fire album, right? Nobody played it. Nobody gave a shit. Lots of people played it. It was a massive success. Sirem was only relevant in Smash Melee

or later with Awakening. They wouldn't have brought games over it. that at a point of like they didn't want to bring it over no they didn't before that they they thought about cutting marth and roy from melee for america yeah but then they left them in

they're like hey why don't we make it a game simply for america with introductory chapters with a character who's related to roy so they made that game it succeeded for quite a while then I think around 3d is when that series started dipping again no no it terms of popularity

that's a way no no no awakening is by far the biggest before awakening i mean Because when they made Awakening, they're like, this is going to be the last Fire Elm game game if it doesn't succeed. Yeah, I mean, the GameCube one flopped. I feel like Fire Enblem on GBA just flew under the radar. I don't think it flew under the radar at all. What about Evans Wars?

Adventure Wars is dead now. Well, I'm not saying, like, I was just saying it as a GBA game. I feel like Advance was way more iconic for GBA than Fire Enblem on the GBA. All right, neither of them on the list. Are you happy? Are you happy? I would put both on the list before I put neither, but. All right, hold on.

So closing it out then, let's see. How many do we have on this list? We got a lot. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. This actually might be worse next generation. So we need to cut three. And Ariavsarro? Ariasar is there.

Okay. I feel like some Castlevania representation has to be there for GBA, and I think that's the right one. Pokemon for sure. It's a question of, is it both of them, though? Yeah, for me, it's Ruby. I put 600 hours in that game. Yeah.

Ruby for sure, but the question is, is leaf green and fire, read on there as well. I don't think so. I think so. I don't think it's like iconic to the GBA. I think it's like, oh, that was one of those Pokemon remakes. But it was the remake though. Like that was the thing. It was like it was the first time and it was just like, oh shit. And like being able to play those games again in. I would say it's on there. I think it's clear we're just going to pick Pokemon games for all five. So why don't you guys just do it? I think so. I think so. We might not for next generation of the generation after.

Metroid Fusion, I think, is there. Golden Sun, like, this is hard to cut them, man. Can we vote on... Gold Sun was obscure, but beloved. Can we vote on Fusion versus Zero Mission? Yeah. Okay. Well, Fusion, I think, is the more popular, like, around-town one.

I mean, Zero Mission is the more popular one, because, like, you said, Zero Seamus is, like, the more iconic look of that character. Yeah, is that because of that game, or is that because of Smash, though? It's because of Smash. She didn't smash because of that game. Yeah. She's in Smash because Sackeray is a pervert.

Who votes for Fusion? I would go for Fusion or reserve. I'm going to go for Fusion, but I don't like it. Betraying me here's a terrible Metroid game. I thought you were going to vote with me, which is why I mentioned the vote in the first place. I'm sorry, I would have been a tie, and then we would have been here all day talking about it.

Yeah, so then we got, we have to start cutting. Wait, does Kevin get to break ties? No. Okay. We just got to hope we don't have ties. So, okay, which of these should we get off the list? Golden Sun, Castlevania, Metroid Fusion. advanced wars, warrior wear

fire emblem, fire red and relief green. Fire red and I think fire emblem needs to go. I would put fire red and leaf green out first before I put fire emblem out. I would not. I'm going to go with Enron this time just because I don't know what happens.

I mean if you can just feel bad, I won't I like it. I can be swayed. Like is there an argument you would make that fire emblem for Game Boy Advanced is an iconic game. It is above Fire. It took them 20 years to bring that series to America, and when they did, they simply made it for America. It's one of those, like, I think the GBA games have better animations and probably every other game since then.

It's not about better. You guys have to remember. I think you're all nuts, and the Yote's more popular than all of these games combined. It was the biggest deal ever. When people think about old Fire Emblem, they think about GBA Fire Enamel. They don't think about S&As Fire Enable, they don't think about GameCube Fire Enblem. They think about the 3DS Fire Emblem. That's not Old Fire Emblem.

That's modern Iron Iron Emperor saying. I never think about old Fire Emblem, really. Like, Fireman, for me, like, it starts when I think about, when I think what comes to mind my first thing Fire Emblem, I think of the 3DS games or Smash. Awakening is the Final Fantasy 7 of Fire Emble. Yes, totally. Unfortunately, I wish a bunch of people cared about one, two, three, four, five, and six Final fantasies, but they don't.

Because for me, the argument for Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green would be that, like, yeah, they're the first Pokemon remix, and yeah, like, they, like, when you think Game Boy advanced, like, Ruby and Sapphire, and Fire Red and Leaf Green are the two first games that come to mind. I don't. Really? Yeah, I don't either. I mean, to me, definitely.

I didn't remember if they existed when you guys mentioned it. It could be an age thing also because I was definitely like of that age. Like I said earlier, it's not about quality. It's not about sales. But like those things do factor in. But like, look at the sales. Those games sold so well on the Game Boy Advance. But Ruby outsold them.

Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. But like Ruby is like number one on this list. Yeah. What about Warrior Wear? Warrior, I think, is here for sure. I think Warrior Wear is here as well.

Okay. Good. So then, yeah, but we're losing spots here. So I feel like with this, I would have... I kick out both fire games if we're going to do that. Both fire. But like... No, I get it.

And I'm kind of with that. Because I feel... What about Advanced Wars? I can say the argument. I would want either Fire Them or Advance Wars on the list, but... I think Advanced Wars is a game that we keep on coming back to. It's like it's so wonderful and it's good And we all talk about it a little bit now

But like at the time it just wasn't it wasn't the biggest deal on earth Yeah I didn't care I didn't know about advanced wars until after the GBA And it was rare right away It got expensive right away Which is not against 9-11 Yes

That might have been the reason I remember going to the GameStop And trying to pick up that game And the GameStop clerk looking at me like Oh shit did I just know what's happening right now Go home Get the Jay Z album then go home Golden Sun

Is there arguments against it? it... I wouldn't. Again, it's like, it used the weirder stuff for the GBA, so people knew about it? Like, it was like, did you hear about the game that uses this stuff?

Like, what was it, the light and dark stuff? That's the game, right? No, that's Bachta. You're thinking of Bokethe. Yeah. Golden Sun was a... It was like a Shining Force... Not a bowel system, but like, it was made by Camelot,

so it looked like shining force, but was a traditional JRP. Yeah, that was... Everybody talked about that game. Could you read all what we got? Golden Sun, Castlevania Ari of Saro, Metroid Fusion,

Advanced Wars, Ruby and Sapphire, Fire Red and Leaf Green, Warioware. I think Casabania absolutely 100% has to stay. Okay. So then, of these, Warrior Wear, Golden Sun. Shit. Or Pokemon games.

At this point, I would argue to take out Fire Red and Leaf Green. I could be fine with it. Or you can play this WarioWRour. But I can let it slide. But I put Warrior instead of Golden Sun. I mean, I just feel like those are, you know. So that's...

Now we put Warrior. We now have to cut one of these. Golden Sun, Castlevania, Metroid Fusion, Advanced War. Pokemon Ruby Sapphire warrior wear I think advanced wars god damn I agree there's no no part of that list I feel nice or happy cutting yeah well clearly I don't know anything about golden sun so you might as well just replace that with warrior where I would I'll I'll side with blessing and go advanced wars I think it's either advanced wars or golden sun but I also I don't have a personal

connection to golden sun like that I just know how much people like fight for that game yeah that's iconic then all right yeah we're cutting up golden sun then So the finalist is Castlevania R. of Sorrow, Metroid Fusion, Advanced Wars, Ruby's Sapphire, Warrior Ware. Great, nobody likes the list. Are you happy? You all happy? You're all happy? Democracy and action. Yeah, every single time we get

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New Super Mario Brothers. Oh, yeah. I had that down, too. It sucks. It also sold 40 million copies. It was under the bestseller on that system, too. Yes. That's crazy considering brain ages on it.

I mean, might as well just put the Pokemon on there now. Well, Nintendo. Here is the question about Pokemon. I feel like this is the console gets interesting of which ones are the iconic ones. Black and White. Oh, I forgot Black and White. There was a big. There were a bazillion and a half Pokemon games on the system.

We have Diamond and Pearl, black and white, heart, gold, and soul, silver, and black and white, too. Oh. D.S. sold a lot and it lived for a very long time. This is a controversial thing. Maybe none of those Pokemon games are iconic. I was about to say, controversially. It has a great error in the 3DS. I think that those are some amazing Pokemon games.

Hard gold and soul silver are my favorite of all time. Yeah, I was going to say, don't like Pokemon fans. However. Black and white is my favorite of all time. Wow. I just don't, I think that the DS is, When you talk about iconic, I think that there's more games that are weird that people associate Pokemon more with Game Boy and Game Boy Color and Advance even than things like Brain Age or Professor Layton or Phoenix Wright. 10, right.

Okay, we actually have to think. Nintendo's right there already. Those are great ones. The Sinking Mama. Those things sold that system so thoroughly at the time because they're talked about, not just because it wasn't just sales numbers. So I have a list of ones. We're going to go down and if you guys think yes, I wouldn't recommend anybody play them. I'm going to bold it to start the conversation.

Nintendo Dogs. Yes. Yes. 100%. Mario Kart DS. I can't speak on it. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no, too.

It's a good game, but whatever. It's not like a... It wasn't a Mario Kart was console until it hit Switch. Like that... Wasn't there a good Mario Kart on advance or am I crazy? There was a Mario Kart. Did we mention it? It's just like the Super Nintendo game where it has like 9-7 rotation.

It's really... I hate it. Oh, yeah. But that's only because there was... Like, at the time, you could play Double Dash. Like, it was crazy. to play. I can

gave it a 7.9 though, right? Brain age. You guys know who gave that game a 7. Yeah. We can't

know a friend of the show. That's the joke. Fucking friend. Brain age. Yeah. I can't speak on that. I'd say yes. It's one of the most

iconic games of all time. Any of the Pokemon games? No idea. I'm going to say no. Let's throw black and white and soul silver on there just to talk about it.

Black and white has such good monsters in it. It does. It's my favorite. Like, because it was, that first generation that went. Okay, fuck all the rest of the

Pokemon. We're starting again. Yeah, it's just $150. That's all you get for right now. That's exactly what I love about Pokemon. It's Lendaleur. Animal Crossing, Wild World.

Yes. Really? It's one of the most popular game. It's a lovely, perfect, handheld game, too, and it's like, you couldn't get better,

you thought, until it came out in 3DS. No, it was really good. Mario 64 DS. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, iconic?

No. It's, it's, it was a launch title, so it's tied to it, I think it's infamous. I mean, yeah. People even avoided it at launch.

What a dumb decision. Hey, man, you know the game that everyone loves the analog stick for us? You know what? You get a little thumb thing, though. They try it. If that game came out today, it would be really loved, though. It was the stylus. No, there was the thumb thing.

Oh, that thing. Yeah, it came with a dumb piece of plastic that you can touch the screen. But, like, the actual design part of that game where, like, they're adding multiple characters and remaking the stars. That's super cool. There's a lot of cool stuff in that game. There's more levels in it, too. You know that thumb thing came with the system with Metroid. Yes.

It was a demo. As the demo. Yeah, because it was supposed to be like a first person shooter attachment. So even using that for like Waria or for Mario wasn't like a big thing. It was kind of a hack to do this. Tangent, but could you imagine if they made a Super Mario 64 switch where it was like, hey, we're taking the Mario Odyssey and Genente and mechanics and putting that into Mario 64 or I guess putting March 64 into that? Yeah, people have asked for it.

They just, oh, man. I just want the castle back in that way. I mean, that's in Odyssey in a really cool way, but what if, like, that was the hub world again? Oh, man. I'm very much into the Mario Hub. God, look at this list. There's so many.

I'm going to say yes, too. So there's two Zelda games, Phantom Hourglass. Yeah, you can skip those. And Spirit Tracks, I think, is fine. They're iconic. I actually love both of them, but yeah, they're not iconic.

How do y'all feel about Chinatown Wars? Yeah, that's an interesting one. I don't think it's iconic. It's a pretty cool game. Yeah, it's a cool game, and it, you know, definitely had moments, but I feel like when you really look back at the list, it's not on there.

curious village. I'd say yes. Just put it on the list for right now. Because I feel like... It had that creativity that could only have been on the DS. It was about, you know, puzzles and about touchscreen and about thinking. And that's like that whole brain age situation, like really, you know, became latent.

Professor, or, yeah, wait. Phoenix Wright. Phoenix Wright. Yes. A's attorney. 100%. You know what's funny? I always associate Phoenix, right, with like covering video games. Which King of Marks is that? When I started reading about games for 10 years, you know, IGN and the early sites that I was reading at the time, like when Phoenix Wright came out,

everybody plugged that on the internet. I wasn't reading about it in a magazine. I always think about that. It's like people, that was kind of an internet sensation game instead of like a print mag thing. That's what it flipped over for me. Yeah, that's interesting. It was Kingdom Hearts. 138 over six, divided by 108 over time. I'm going to say no. No. No. Warrior Ware touched. No, that's not, I mean, like there's people love twisted in the first one at the time and touched is so great and I liked it better than those, but it wasn't beloved for some reason. It was a great cover, bright on which.

When I think about Worry Bear Touch, I think I really liked it, but then I sort of realized I'm actually thinking of Rhythm Heaven, which is a much better game. Yeah. Elite beat agents. Yes. Hell yeah. Yeah.

Cookie Mama. Yeah, that's a really cute one to have on. I mean, but that was kind of like a brain age-esque game that was trying to reach new audiences, right? Like, that's what the DS really was good at with brain training and Nintendo. but I think Cooking Mama would be a third to those two to try to reach basically non-gamers.

Any other games to add to the list? Plenty. Trauma Center. No. Any of the Castlevania's. What about Medios? Medios is also a good one. Sakurai made one.

Disney Mediose. Disney Medios, not Sakurai made. Okay, Trauma Center, Medios. A Castlevania, you said. Yeah, I love those. I personally love Orrima Clici is the most. Dawn of Starved, probably the most loved. And it also has DS in the name.

Yes. But it also had that time where people were like putting every touch screen thing they could do. So it had that dumb boss thing. So my thing with Castlevania is, I feel like it's more associated with the Game Boy Advance. Yeah, it is. We're just getting it out. I feel like it hit the Metrovanius Shride on DS. Yeah.

I think they got very good. Boy, there's no good Metroid on Dio. I'll tell you that. That's true. That's too bad. Anything else? Contra? Contra 4, yeah.

The way forward one. I liked that game, but. Sonic Rush? No. What about that Star Fox game? No. That was the only good Star Fox game after the first one. That was not good.

Wait, wait, are you... No, it was good at you. I did not like it. 64 is okay, but, like, I think that's way better. Yeah, but you guys, you don't understand what it was like to have a Super Nintendo and play a 3D game on it. When all your friends were getting PlayStation's. Kirby Canvas Curse.

I think it's one of it. It was the game that showed the touch screen worked. Ooh, I'm going to get in trouble for this one. I think it's the only good Kirby game. That's, hmm. Tetris D.S. Now, I like the Dream course, too. But in terms of a Kirby platformer, that one is so good.

I might be on an island alone here. The role ends with you. Yeah, I thought somebody was going to bring that up. Deserves a shout out. But I don't think it's going to get most iconic, right? It's interesting to me because it's been ported several times and all those ports have been worse because the way the DS worked,

you can't replicate that control scheme anywhere else in Italy as well. Like literally it's a deep pad in one hand and a stylus in the other. It just doesn't work without two screens making it work. What's the Nintendo World Store exclusive music game that had a little plant life or a sea...

Electroplankton. Electroplankton. Deep cut. Fucking electroplankton. You had to go to New York? Smash Brothers. It has a stage of Smash Brothers that are streamers who used to play on that stage because it's just a green screen. So you can replace it with whatever you want.

You ever when all we had to play was Yoshi Touch &o? You know what? I will stand by Yogi Tatshigo is being pretty okay. I like it. It's an arcade game. Also like, people are going to play that game on a plane because the plane, if you blow into the mic and erases everything. That's right.

So the plane's constantly making noise to erase it. It sounds like this super hard mode. A game that I'm going to give a shout out that doesn't actually make the list, but I think gets way too much hate. is Yoshi's Island DS. You know what? It's got baby Donkey Kong in it. Yeah, it does.

Baby Peach. So, like, Yoshi's Island DSS. Not bad is not good for a sequel to Yoshi's Island, though. True. That's exquisite, and it should deserve a better sequel. The thing about that game, it was made by a lot of old Sonic team people, and I'd be in, like, Genesis Sonic Team people. So it's actually one of the better 2D Sonic games. That's interesting.

You know who made a Sonic game for a DS? Sega? Bioware. Oh, yes, they did. Oh, my God, you're right. So one of my favorite stories about that game. Bargoles of something or other. Dark Brotherhood.

Dark Brotherhood. Before this, by my desk at work, I have two tubs of every single Game Boy Advance game and every single Game Boy Color game from IGN's archives. I had them pulled out of the library and I just put them in tubs and there this funny container by my desk. I was looking through it today to bring some jokes onto the show, which I might have for later. But I found one and it was a rock star game for Game Boy Color, licensed. Can you guess what it is?

No. A licensed game. It's based on a movie. It's Austin Power. Hours. Austin. Oh, right, that trivia thing. Made by Rockstar.

And with the Rockstar logo, like the contemporary, you know, Rockstar logo, right there on it. That's that nuts? So bizarre. Yeah. That was cool. All right. I feel like we need to start wielding this list down. Okay.

It's real long. Here, Imrod. You want to add any more, though? I'm still looking. There's a bunch of games I love that I would totally add. It just, like, ghost trick is a game that I'm so fucking in love with. It just, well, people call it iconic. All right.

We still don't have RPGs on this list except for Pokemon, which is weird, but world ends with you. It might be a good one for that. So, new Super Mario Brothers. It makes the list. I think so, yeah. Regardless of quality, I think.

Nintendo Dogs. I'm keeping quiet about Super Mario, New Super Mario Bros. Nintendox was like the vanguard of the casual... Brain Age and Nintendo Dogs both. Yeah. Brain age.

I think we're going to put one or the other. Yeah, and I feel like at some point I'd go Nintendo Dogs over Brain Age or even Cooking Mama. Guys, Brain Age melted the world. It did. It was on everything. Nintendo Dogs was a completely different experience. It's just we think of them in that kind of non-game category.

Lessing, what do you think? If you had to put Brain Age versus Nintendo Dogs. Oh, Nintendo Dogs easily. Yeah. So they both go on. I mean, I'm not against that. Pokemon Black and White or Pokemon Heart gold and Soul Silver. Those just seem like lesser Mons.

Better Mons. I think better Mons. Less iconic mons. Black and white problem is it came out at the very end of the DS lifestyle, so it's our DS lifetime. So it's hard to say it's iconic. I just think that when you think of iconic DS stuff, it's all tied to the touch ship

because it did so much unique things, right? But then again, the first one we put on this list with these were Mario Brothers. What about 120 classic novels? Wait, was that a thing? Yeah, they put on DS, Nintendo published a series of, well, it was like an all-in-one book series where you read on, you remember when you could turn it?

on the side and read it. Yeah, yeah. What about clubhouse? The weirdly popular clubhouse games. Oh, yeah, clubhouse games. It was always in MPD numbers.

Yeah. All the time. It was like a top ten. It was like darts and dominoes and stuff. Yeah. It was just garbage. It was like Nintendo made too. I think it was probably like sold in like Walgreens.

Like at we know, in the pharmaceutical aisle or something. It was just everywhere. But it like ended up being one of the best selling games of generation somehow. So we decided to take the Pokemon games off? I think so. I think so too. Yeah.

I'm fine with it. Animal Crossing Wild World I'd go all in on that I mean it's weird but like it It was the one Until of 3DS came out Yeah that's the thing That's my thing is like

Each excessive Animal Crossing has been more popular Except the wee one But For me I feel like people associated that game with DS DS Yeah New Leaf was also extremely popular Don't get me wrong

Yeah I think for me it feels weird though I know we just cut Pokemon But the idea of that Animal Crossing Wild World would get on there before Pokemon. Because Pokemon's iconic to Nintendo handheld, I just not heard about the DS specifically. Even though it had so many of them.

This was the Animal Crossing that broke on to handheld, and it was just so exquisitely matched for that because of the menuing and all the stuff. And also, like, this is when Nintendo was being another big thing of, like, targeting women as, like, actual players of video games. And that's what Animal Crossing was

the tip of that spear. So Professor Layton in the Curious Village. I feel like we can just get ahead of this, And I would put Phoenix Wright over Professor Layton. That makes sense. It has more memes now. Right? It does.

I mean, that's a real thing. Yeah, totally. Cooking Mama. I think the function it served is better served by Brain Age. Yeah. Elite beat agents. I fucking love that game. Oostateke-A-Wendon was one of the first games I ever imported.

Like, I probably put more hours into those three games than I have almost any of the rhythm games. I've ever played. I will fight for Elite Beat agents. I feel like it is a weird example of unique DS abilities tied with

weird Nintendo shit. Yes. And it's just like people think, people love that game. And it's like, it's a cult classic, but it's the type of cult classic

that even if you didn't play, you understand the memes of it. Yeah, I'd back you up on that. Yeah. Trauma Center. No, I wouldn't say so. I love it.

Second to Phoenix Riot and Layton. Yeah. But what would you classify those? as, I guess, career games. I mean, Drama Center was like an arcade game that happened to have like a surgery, like, aesthetic, but... Medios. It came and went really fast, so I totally get it. But when there was nothing else out for the DS, thank you, Medios.

It was an interesting story because, like, we would not have gotten Smash Brothers back, but that game didn't fail. Yeah. Thank God. It did. Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow. I want to say yes, honestly. Yeah, I get it. I know we just put R.E.F.S.R.O. on the last list.

But there's no Metroid's in this one, so you might as well. Yeah, Kirby Canvas Curse. I also want to say yes, but I think I'm outmaned on that one. Yeah, I would normally back that up. I love these other games. Yeah, I think that it's on a top tenels, but I feel five, it's not going to make it. I think of the touchscreen traditional games,

it's probably the best touchscreen traditional game. Like, best to represent the DS. Where are you coming on this? I got no employee. I'm not familiar here. Tetris DS. It is my favorite version of Tetris. It's a great game.

But yeah, I don't think that it's tied. I played it in line while waiting for my Wii. The world ends with you. 12 hours. Amazing game. I think pretty like could not, has not been done nearly as well as or the DS. Yeah.

But it does it one of the most iconic games compared to everything else in that list? I don't think so. Surprise it doesn't have sequels. That would have been a good indication. They just thought, we released it, right? Yeah, they've teased sequels a couple of times and just never done anything with them. It's evil. We're doing pretty good here, guys.

We're doing pretty good. We have seven games. Oh, man. I think you're going to say we had to get rid of two. Okay. New Super Mario Brothers, Nintendo Dogs, Brain Age,

Animal Crossing Wild World, Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney, Elite Beat Agents, Castlevania Don of Star. All right. Get rid of Animal Crossing, it's fine. I was going to say,

Animal Crossing can probably go. Okay. I think we drop Animal Crossing and Intendogs. No, no. Nintendo Dogs. I think you guys like Elite Beat agents a lot. Yes.

But that's not an iconic game. Like, Nintendo Dogs is the one that stays. You guys made, you dug your grave for this one. Iconic does not mean good. Yeah. That's true. True.

Now, my thing is, though, and this is crazy, but I think Alibatiate agents is more iconic to the DS than New Super Mario Brothers is. That's crazy. And I made this argument before. If you made that argument for Castlevania, I would agree with you. And, well, Castlevania, I also think that. If you didn't have to write the sales numbers for 10 years,

then you would understand. I get it, but I'm talking about the being tied to thing. And I think that the New Super Mario Brothers thing, I made this argument last week for the Wii and Wii stuff. Too many of those games came out too close together that you don't associate. them with the systems. It's just kind of a blur.

This one you do though. I just want to, I don't know, man. I feel like for me, when I think of New Submari Brother, I think of we specifically. Like I still think that, yeah. That was a hot seller too. Proving my point. It's just like, it's just kind of, everybody has a different touchstone. Literally we're putting a Cassabania on here that has a, the only difference in title is one word. You know, like, like, Don Osorra versus Ariasaro. That's like, we're, if we're differentiating between based on the title of blurbs. Like, a lot of these things are together. Mario Brothers only has one word difference too. I feel like New Super Mario Brothers, I get the, it being an icon, iconic game for DS more than Castlevania Donno Sorrow. I'm with that test. I would say elite beat agents beats Castlevania Darno.

At this point, I think I'm okay with losing Dono Sorrow. I love that game. Yeah, that's fine. And I think... Over lead beat agents? I mean, I think you... You guys just like Elite Bage. I like...

Nobody cares about that game. I like the argument for elite beat agents in the sense that, like, you know, you're kind of mid-maxing a bit of like, oh, yeah, not popular, but at the same time, it represents a specific thing about the DS that you can take, look at it, and be like, oh, yeah, like, this represents, like, the weirdness, the quirkiness, but also, like, the functionality of the system.

I can understand why you would put it there. The motion carries. Okay. D.S. games are New Sumaier brothers, Nintendo Dogs, Brain Age, Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney, and... What a handheld. No, honestly, it's...

You can make the argument that the PS2 and the DS are the two best consoles like ever. the original DS? Yes. As somebody who did not own one. Isn't that exciting? You have 70 games to catch up on. I'm like, I don't know if I'm with you, man. I don't know if I'm with you. But that's a good thing. You have a whole library of

magic to explore. Don't start with those five. 3DS. Another weird system. It is. You know, at least it had its own Mario game, stuff like that, but it's hard because we're still in 3DS to see what's iconic, Because some of the things we've been talking about weren't at the time. So it's hard to look into that.

I mean, I feel like Mario 3D land is on that list. Yeah. I mean, it's great, and everybody played it. It's great. We forget about it, though. It's a unique type of Mario game, and it utilized the 3D in a way that was, like, at least semi-interesting. Yeah, I want to start off with a weird one. Street Pass, mini games.

Yeah, holy shit. That's a fantastic answer. Yeah, you like it? Cool. I'm out. Yeah, street pass. Yeah, I could... Straight past definitely.

That's not U.S. Ito made, but U.S. It inspired. Fire and Boom Awakening. Yep. Yeah. That's the... Awakening over fates. Definitely. Yes.

Yeah. Metroid Samus returns. No. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's the only two-day Metroid on there. I would say put a pin in it because it actually...

It does say Metroid is not dead. Because remember, that was that weird? Not weird time, but the time the whole Metroid family... MAPES lost our fucking minds when Federation Forces revealed. Yeah. And they saw it as a genuine slap in the face. And then the same return comes out. It's like, oh, actually, Metroid's not dead.

Metroid's still around. But everyone's like, oh, but why is it not on the switch? It's kind of a bummer graphic. So let's have the Pokemon conversation again. Yeah. X and Y, Sun and Moon, ultra Sun and Moon. I think X and Y... I feel like X and Y makes...

They did suck, but I think they make the list. I would put Sun and Moon over it. Really? Just because, like, Sun and Moon was... I think the Lolo Pokemon made a big difference. Sun and Moon was in time of, like, hey, we're not as stale as it looks. It's hard to say, because that game is like two years old.

I feel like X and Y brought a lot of people back, though, that had not played the DS era at all. Like, I remember being at IGN when it came out, like, everyone was playing it, and it was a lot of people that hadn't played since Ruby and Sapphire. That's true. I don't have enough distance for Pokemon right now. Yeah, a lot of this one is hard to say because, like, it's...

I do have enough for Animal Crossing, though. There we go. Animal Crossing. New Leaf. Definitely. So I'm going to throw in the stalwartes in Link Between Worlds. Oh, yeah. I don't know what to do with that because I guess I think Link Between Worlds is probably should be the choice,

but I think their remakes are so good on that. I guess that was what I was going to draw out there. I almost would make the argument that Ocarina of Time is more iconic than Link Between Worlds on the 3DS. What sucks is that that's, that doesn't suck, but it's a good thing. That's the definitive version of that game now. Like it's the smoothest best version with all the stuff in it. But yeah, it doesn't, I mean, I don't hear the association. it with 3D. I would hear the argument for both.

I think here's my argument. Like, looking at the 3DS, I feel like so much of its library, especially in the early days, and when it was first shown and first pitched, was kind of like, here's a bunch of ports that we're doing that are being enhanced by 3D. We had Star Fox 64, we had Zelda. When you look at those,

though, I really think that Zelda was the one that they marketed, they pushed as being like, this is Ocreen of Time and so many people are going to play it for the first time. Obviously, we all love it from the N64, but it's like, it was a huge hit here and it was associated with the 3DS. Well, I mean, the 3DS originally was

a very cynical, like, I don't want to say cash grab but it was a thing of saying, hey, all those people who grew up the Instry 4 are now like 20, 25, they've got money, let's mark it towards them, which is why you had stuff like Aquina and Star Fox. Yeah. But it's so similar, it's just Aquarina again with better graphics.

It's hard for me to put it above link between worlds, which is a fresh new Zelda in a lot of ways that could present her to breath the wild of them rethinking convention. of Zelda of how they present that game. So can we skip cart and smash even though those were big at the time?

I think so. I think they didn't last. Yeah. What's your argument? I mean, I don't have an argument for it. I think smash lasted for a month until the Wii U Virgin came out. Totally. Exactly. It was like the first portable smash game

should have been a much bigger deal than it actually was. But those were like two the games we looked forward to the most they didn't matter in the end. Totally, totally. It was okay. I think I'm just more so surprised because that being the first smash on a portable system,

It was a month out. That was the only... Yeah, I bought it because I wanted to play smash, and then when the Wii U game came out, I never touched it again. I don't think I ever updated it again. We got... Kid Acorous Uprising.

I fucking love Kid Akers Uprising. Wow, I've never even heard that take. I think it's one of the best Nintendo games ever made. Did you get the thumb strap back out for it? No, I played with the... So I laid in bed, and I had the 3DS on, like, balancing on me, and just had the stylus, like, there. That's the way I played it, so it did not kill my wrist.

But in terms of design, writing, presentation, I think Nintendo has never made a game quite like that again. They certainly haven't. I love the game, too. It's interesting with the iconic conversation, though, because it's like, in a lot of ways, I think that there's many arguments that it is. You know, bringing a franchise back,

making a franchise irrelevant for the first time. Early on in the system's life, like one of the first games that, of consequence, really, on the 3DS. It was one of the first announced games, too. Like, I remember at the E3, Awada going like, hey, here's Kid Chris, everyone saw that trailer. Like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, and he had the, Pitt had that

Smash Brothers brawl kind of juice going into it. Yeah. And I feel like that really helps. I think it's a funny troll game. I think you should put it on the list. That's how you end up with it actually on the list. Steel Diver, another funny troll game. Oh, boy. Yeah.

No, didn't last the test of time. Bravely default. Yeah. I think so. I think it's one of the, it's, I don't want to say it like started a JRP, or Clashed JRP. Renaissance, but it was fairly popular in the West, and as a JRPG, it got sequel and had fans. Yeah.

I just think that I can't imagine a world where I would put that over any of the Pokemon games or any of the Zelda games. I agree with Zelda. I don't necessarily agree with Pokemon. Yeah. What else we got? I tried to make this happen last week. Yeah.

I'm going to try it again. I'm not even going to try it again. I'm just going to float the idea. Shovel Knight. Did we put it on Wii or did we not? did not. I tried so hard. Yeah. That's another one where I just think it's associated across everything. Yeah, it's hard. I didn't play it

on 3DS. I didn't play it on 3DS. It's hard for me to like associate it with that. But I could see the argument, yeah. I just wanted to fold the idea. I'm not going to fight for it this time because I also didn't play it on 3DS. I'm going to take New Super Mario Brothers 2 to straight off the list. Yeah. Right. That is a game that definitely is not iconic. I really

like that game because I think the coin collecting is super fun and it's really cool, but it just came and went. So a question for you guys just because I don't have the history here. Monster Hunter. Yes. What what consoles it associated with? Uh, so, originally PSP. So when it came to 3DS, it was a huge fucking deal, like that it wasn't going to Vita instead. Four was the big change for that series and it ended up doing a lot of what Rortals got credit for. But because it was on a handheld and because

it was like so difficult to play one of those kind of games, it's not as well loved as you would think. It's what got me into the series as someone They could, like, toy it around with previous games. But I would definitely, I could definitely see an argument for it to be on that list. Which one in? The Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate. Yeah, it's weird. I mean, I don't know if Monster Hunter as an entire whole is iconic in America.

I mean, now it's the best selling Capcom game ever. Yeah, but that's not saying much, you know. I mean, there isn't any world where street fighter to exist and Resident Evil exists. Yeah, but it's not the best selling Capcom game in America. it actually might be at this point Street Fighter 2 is. Worldwide easily though. All right, so...

Also, we could talk about this all day. There's no way Capcom's numbers are accurate for things like Mega Man 3 and stuff like that. On every single cell phone, it was just like, that's crazy when they released those stats. I assume they forgot. Yeah, they forgot. They totally.

Honestly, Mega Man Collection is an amazing 3DS game. Shouldn't be on this list, but it's so good. So we got 12 games on the list now. So we've got to start whittling down. Link Between Worlds Mario 3D Land They're gonna say Fire Emblem Awakening

They're all first party It's so funny Metroid Samus returns That gets the cut Yeah it gets cut Yeah I think it gets cut I can see it Yeah

Bravely default I think it gets the cut Yeah Yeah It was a niche game Good though Pokemon sun and moon Pokemon X and Y

I would love to leave one of those I think X and Y make it That's fine I really think Olola form Pokemon a big deal. I think the problem is... They're in Pokemon Go? Yeah, that's the thing, is that neither of these games are the most popular Pokemon game that era, as Pokemon Go was.

Yeah, that's a good point. Where you fall in the Pokemon trend? I mean, I just, I haven't played either X and Y or Sun and Moon, but I do have, like, my friend Ian talks a lot about how Sun and Moon was the thing that, like, revitalized his joy for Pokemon because of the ways in which they, like, they did what Imran was saying, right? They made it not steal anymore. Where, like, they, like, they changed up how gym leaders work, right? They did the a little form of stuff. And from what I understand,

like he fights for that game so I can, I can see the argument for it, but also like I've not played an X and Y. There are no Pokemon games. What do we have? If we were to leave them off. Yeah, Animal Crossing New Leaf, that stays. I think so, yeah.

Kid Akris Uprising. Okay. Debatable. I would swat. That would be fine to have instead of a Pokemon for me. I think it's funny. I just think it's funny. I'd be a bet.

Because it was a big flop. Monster 104 Ultimate, The iconic Flores. The Acquine of Time. Street Pass. I think Street goes on there for sure. Me too.

I love Street Pass RPG and all the stuff that was in there. It was great. I think Aquarina and Monster Hunter are a bit more iffy. I say we caught them. So is there no room then? I mean, we're... We had 12 and we were like... Yeah, we're still whittling down.

Okay. So cutting those two then. Well, actually, I'm still arguing Ocarina over Link between worlds. I would love that. I think Aquarina got more pushed because Aquino was the only thing they had for the first year.

And I think that tied it to the system a lot, you know? So you have five bolded now? We have nine now. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. So, but it gets, there's a couple that we can like cut out here. So street pass is up for sure, for sure. Yes.

Let me re-bolt these, actually. So, street pass for sure. What are other four sures? Mario 3D Land. Yeah. And Fire Emblem Awakening, I think. Yeah, that's good. Sure?

Yeah. If we're going iconic, I can see the argument for awakening. Oh, Animal Crossing New Leaf. Yeah. So there's really just one slot. So there's one slot left. One slot left for Ocarine of Time, link between worlds,

Pokemon Sun and Moon, Pokemon X and Y, or Kid Icarus Uprising. I think Link Between Worlds is that game. I think you guys, I'm going for Kid Icarus. I hate for Kid I Chris over Link Between Worlds. Yeah, man. For being tied to the 3DS, like for how much like they talked about the game,

it had its own, peripheral. I guess I'm thinking more from our quality perspective but yeah. You gotta separate quality out. I don't know about that one. Like for a link between worlds

being like the one unique Zelda for 3DS, I feel like that game. I remember that game coming out and the reaction it got because people were like blown away by it. It was game spot's game in the year. They didn't like the graphics. I mean it was 3DS.

I never liked any graphics on that thing. It wasn't about that. It was with the style. Everything looked like a little toy but it looked not like a good toy. Like it looked like crappy. But also like that came out of a time What was the other Zelda that came out near it?

Like, was that the motion control Skyward sword? Wasn't that like the last Zelda we had gotten before that? And so we were already kind of soured a bit. I mean, there was Wind Waker and Wii U, which is really good right around that time? Was that before, after this? I feel like between worlds is the bottom of all of these. Really?

Yeah. All right, are we going to do a boat? I think that's insane, but I think Kit Ikkeres edges out between worlds. And I'm siding with Irond this time. All right. Kitikers, it is. I told you it was a troll to us.

It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It'll be a really good game. Oh, man. And I feel like Pokemon X and Y would have been above that, but y'all beat me to that. So I brought a special surprise. Are we ready to move on after this list?

Bust it out? Okay. You can read the list first up. Oh, the list is. Super Mario 3D World, Fire and Blumen Awakening, Animal Crossing, New Leaf, Kid a Curris Oprising, and Street Pass. Cool. All right.

Well, I brought the worst Nintendo handheld game of all time, the least iconic. It is... Whoa. Fun Water Squirter. Whoa. This is not only a bad game. You can see this is a game and watch at Nintendo, but we

didn't talk about game and watch, but those are Nintendo handheld systems and the best of those would be hard to get at, probably Zelda, Donkey Kong, and maybe Octopus, which this is imitating. How about this in Chinatown pretty recently? And, which doesn't make any sense because it's supposed to trick you into squirting water in your face. Can I just point out how much I love the guy on the front?

He's just so terrified. So, not only is the game lying because it says it's fun, but it sprays you in the face when you're trying to play with water, and then the game just doesn't look that fun to be in it. Anyway, that's awesome. iconic Nintendo game of all time. I could come up with today. Wow. So Sam, you actually have to get out of here. I do some official IGN work. Thank you for coming through. Of course. And I want to say if you, I'm on Game Scoop all the time. That's the show that I do at IGN. And we talk about stuff like this a lot.

So come check that out. But we're going to be at Pax at the end of this month on 29th, leap day live 730 at Pax East. It should be fun. There we go. Thank you so much for coming through. Thank you so much for having me. Now we're going to talk about Switch games, though. Do I get to actually leave in real time? Oh, yeah. Really? I'm going to think about how I'm going to make my escape.

Thank you so much. Thanks everybody listening and watching too. Appreciate it. See you later, dude. Switch. Breath of the Wild. Oh, yeah. Easy.

This one is going to be... Every time we say it's going to be easy. It ends up being a goddamn hard. This one has two very easy ones, and then the rest is going to be like a blood bath. Okay, okay. So, like, Breath of Law and Mario Odyssey are the two. Absolutely. And then from there,

It's like, what's the conversation we're having? So what represents Switch? Is it Nintendo games? Is it indie games? Because, and that's my argument. That's my argument. It goes back to the definition of iconic. Smash Ultimate, I would also say, is probably like another lock.

Yeah, Smash Ultimate is like, honestly, probably the most iconic Nintendo game. Purendo. Splatoon 2, I don't, I think there's a conversation. There is a conversation about Splatoon 2. I think Splatoon 2 is absolutely a conversation. I think it is. probably going to make the list I think there's a conversation for Celeste

Here's it going to be a controversial one Mario card 8 deluxe No that's not even controversial I think really I think that's Yeah so I like your Celeste though Yeah because like here's the I think For this weird place we've been in for the last Two to three years right with the Switch

Switch has been identified with indie games More so than the other consoles Yeah because everything is like oh I'd love to play this on a switch instead Yeah and so now that we now that the like we have the Switch and you know Indie games are have been coming out pretty rapidly over the last three years like it has Switch is the indie game console

Like it's indie games, it's Nintendo games And then it's like Marvel's Ultimate Alliance Yeah And so let me let me throw some shit at you then I love Celeste But I do think that there is one more iconic I'm with you Sonic Mania put it on the list Oh my God

Fucking love Sonic Mani I was gonna say Fortnite I was also gonna say Fortnite I was gonna say in terms of the What you're talking about the indie game Celeste or Netflix or I'm gonna go golf story. God bless you.

Because I feel like Golf Story was early enough in the Switch's life cycle. It was hyped up enough from the indie perspective and from how Nintendo pushed it, that I feel like it is associated with the Switch so strongly. Where I can see an argument that Celeste isn't tied specifically to the Switch, even though most people first saw it from directs. I feel like wasn't Golf Story specifically exclusive for the Switch? Yeah. Okay.

But that's what I'm saying. In terms of it representing Indian. games and at that point just games on Switch because for a while it was just kind of like it's Breath of Wild and whatever comes up on the e-shot. In that same vein, I haven't played Steam World Dig 2 but I feel like you can make a... DIMRODick 2 is a perfect game.

I feel like he could even make a better argument for Steam World Dick 2 as much as I prefer... Over Golf Story? Yes. Like I prefer Golf Story. Really? I love Golf Story, but Steam Roll Dig 2 I think of... We're not talking quality.

We're talking iconic iconography. Yeah, I think I... Honestly, I don't... When you talk about Sam Roald... If you talk about Goff Story today, I don't think anyone necessarily like, or you talk about Switch, I don't think anyone goes golf story. That's the one. Yeah, I think that's my thing, too.

I definitely don't think anyone does SteamWorld dig. I would put Celeste about both of those, personally. I mean, I would put Celeste by the Steam. But I would probably put Cadence of Hyrule in terms of iconic above all three of those. I don't know if it hit the way it should have hit, though. No, it doesn't matter about hitting. It was the game, in the game, Nintendo went like,

hey, here have fucking Zelda. Yeah, but my argument to that is like, in a couple years, if I mention it, if I'm like, hey, what's the Zelda game on a Switch? I don't think majority of people, If you say what was that Rhythm Zelda game on Squid, people will be like, oh, fucking, yeah, it came to viral. I mean... If you go, what was that golf game on Switch?

It would be like, the one that was in the firmware? Do you mean Sports Story? That was newer? Yeah. I would also put Hall of Night above most of those, too. For Switch, though? Yes. Didn't...

It came out of other things. It came on PC first, but I think it hits, like, it's a big thing with Switch. I'd give it to PC. Yeah, that's my thing, too. I don't really associate Hall. like Seam World dig too I specifically associate with Switch in a way and like Goss Story too

or Gop Story also Hollow Night for me is like one that's probably similar to Celeste where it came out on multiple platforms but like yeah people played it on Switch because it was it was because they came out on Switch but at the same time I feel like Celeste specifically it not coming to PC first and it coming cross platform

everywhere I feel like made that game kind of shine also Nintendo had it in their like year opening direct their like direct or whatever. The indie world. No, I think it was literally called like a direct... Oh, the Gulf Story one.

Or Celeste. Celeste. Because Goff Story was in the Nindies. Celeste was at the like year beginning one where like we saw it and we were like, what's Celeste? And then it came out and we're like, oh, this game is awesome. I would say Hollow Night represents that thing that's been happening with Switch of, okay, yeah, this indie game seems cool.

I want to play it on Switch instead. I'd also say Sonic Mania is in that conversation too. I love, I fucking love Sonic Mania But I don't know man I think Sonic Mania was a revolution It was a force, not Sonic Force It was absolutely not a revolution That's why it was good

True I love it Now Going through first party titles Because I feel like that's kind of the big stuff Super Mario Maker 2 Pokemon Let's Go And Pokemon Sword and Shield

I don't think Mario Maker makes it But I think there's an argument For Let's Go and Sword and Shield What are your thoughts? I agree with both of those both of the lesson said

I'm just trying mentally going away the games that came out this year Fire I own three houses three houses yeah I don't think so I don't think so either you said it it was your suggestion well I said it to be in the conversation do you think it's

one of the most iconic I think so I think it represents like it was probably Nintendo's biggest game this past year not in terms of sales but in terms of like game critical quality like yeah being critically received But now let's go back to this, though. Would you, like, looking at the early days, Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2 or Fire Emblem 3 houses? I go Splatoon 2.

I mean, in terms of iconic? I would say Fire Emum 3 houses. Between Sputon 2 and Fire Emblem. But I also don't think either of them make it in the end. Yeah. I think I'm on the opposite problem. I would think they both make it, but I would put Firenum above Sputon 2 for me.

See, what I'll blow above both, Octopath Traveler. I mean, isn't that the same bravely default conversation? we had though. Yeah. Is it? I think so. I think I missed the bravely default conversation because I was. It's great and it definitely like was a big deal, but I don't think that like when you,

you can't compare that to the Pokemon games or to Sputon. You know what I mean? What about Fortnite? Yeah. Fortnite when that came to Switch was, I feel like a turning point for a lot of people. I think Fortnite is iconic. It's hard to say because it's like the biggest game in the world right now. Yeah.

I don't think that in the future people are going to look back at the Nintendo Switch version of Fortnite. I think more people play it on their phone and they play it on Switch. But I think people play it everywhere else. Yeah, I think Fortnite is one of those games. It just transcends. It did have its moment though at E3. Yeah. And that was actually to even bring the argument further, right?

That game coming to Switch and then being cross-play. Yes. And Microsoft and Nintendo making that commercial like play together. And then that caused a whole conversation in the industry. and had everybody looking at Sony, like, yo, what up, right? And now we're getting games like Call of Duty being crossplay because of that moment.

In that vein. Go ahead. Oh, no, go ahead. Minecraft. No one associates that with Switch. Lots of people do. No way. It is one of the best sellers on the system.

Yeah, but that's not a, that's people play. And when we're talking about, like, the crossplay thing, that was what that commercial was actually for. Was Microsoft and, like, the green and red together, the play together thing, that was from Minecraft. Was it not for Fortnite? It was not for Fortnite? Fortnite did also do

play together stuff but not that specific It's funny though like with the switch Like looking at this list in front of me It looks like we have about like 13 here Yeah I just feel like looking at it when it comes to like It does feel like there's more clear answers Than we've seen before

Because like even just the top of what I have here Splatoon 2 smash Ultimate Mario Cardi 8 Deluxe Mario Odyssey Breath of the Wild I feel like that's such a good starting lineup To compare things against Yeah I'm gonna throw one in there that there can be a decent argument for

Mario and Rabbit's Kingdom Battle That's what I was thinking up too It's actually a really good game It's so good But it just like I remember when that thing leaked The people were like What the fuck is this thing?

Yeah What is this Princess Rabbit? Yeah I was like offended When I saw it I was like Oh no not these guys Yeah Not these guys These guys with my beloved Mario no

And then the game came out like Three months after that And it was fucking amazing It was great Yeah everybody was saying it was amazing I never played it because I was like No I refuse but I heard great things.

No, it's real good. But I just don't think it's on the level of the five games I mentioned. Yeah, that's the problem. I mean, what's the argument for a Splatoon 2? Because for me, it's somebody who I've only played the demo of Splatoon 2, right? Like, it struck me as just more Splatoon. It didn't really strike me as anything too unique or special or iconic. That's, so it's iconic.

I don't think it's a unique or special. It's a problem. Because it was that first year Switch game that was like, oh, yeah, Spatoon's really popular. We're just going to carry over that momentum from the Spatoon 1. And they did. and it became sold really well and became very associated with that console. I still associate

I mean I guess I associate Splatoon with both WiiU and Switch but not like Switch specifically. Like MarriCard 8 Deluxe I feel like is even more so It's a weird one. Mario Gerdit Deluxe I think is on the list. Yeah I think it's definitely on the list

over Splatoon too and I don't know and I don't know if that's the thing of Mari Car 8 Deluxe coming out and launch, was it Launch Window or at launch? Launch window. Launch window? Launch window. I don't know if it was launch with it.

I don't know if it's that, the fact that it came out months before Splatoon 2 or the fact that it's like the best. You bring up a good point though about Splatoon where, and not that this necessarily means it's not on this list, but I think there's so many games that could be that it would push it off. But Splatoon, I do associate so much more strongly with Wii U than with Switch. It was on our Wii U list for sure. Because I like, if I'm looking at Nintendo games, right, like Luigi's Mansion 3, I'd probably put above Splatoon 2. No way. No?

No way. I was thinking about. Fireland three houses, I'll probably put a bus platoon too. I can't imagine that argument. Has Octopath Traveler been thrown? Yeah. Come up, yeah. Okay, okay.

Marvel's Awesome Alliance 3. I'm going to do a shout out to you. That doesn't go above anything, but shout out to it. What about Dragon Quest? I have 60 hours in that game. Yeah, but I don't think it's so shady with Switch. I think a lot of people play it on Switch. They push that game super hard.

Like, literally, they put a character in. Smashwether's just to sell that game better. Yeah, Smash Brothers is like, you can say that about almost any franchise at this point. I say shout out to Skyrim and Rocket League. Oh, Rocket League. That's a good one. And a game nobody played, but I played and loved

Floor Kids. Floor kids. Floor kids is cool. Yeah. What about Goose Game? No. Goose game transcends all. But it transcended at all on Switch. It doesn't transcend over Celeste, even Steamworld Day.

No, Groot Game is not a good game. It just... It was, like, when did you get Quincy Taken, like, tweeting about it multiple times? I feel like... Do you know what she also tweeted about, though? Luigi's Mansion 3. She does. She does.

She really fucking loves that game. So, all right. We got... I feel like there's four spots then that we're not denying at all. Which are Smash Ultimate, Mario Card 8 Deluxe, Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild. Yes. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right.

Platoon is the only one that we're wavering on. I'm iffy about it. I'm iffy about Splatoon. So that means we have one spot left. For like 18 games. So I think it might be one of the Pokemon's as basic as that sounds. No, I agree with you, but I want to...

I don't want it to be. But my hot take would be. I'd probably say let's go over Sword and Shield. I would say Short and Shield over Let's go, honestly. But the reason why I don't say Sword and Shield is because of how much one of the controversy around it I feel like makes it not like the ubiquitous amazing Pokemon game that we all

sort of wanted. Yeah, but the controversy was nothing. Like, yes, it didn't have the national deck stuff. But also, Pokemon Let's Go only had the first 150 anyway. Yeah. I mean, I'm with... I feel like it's Sword and Shield over Let's Go. And I think a lot of that comes down to the fact of

how many people... In the same argument I made for X and Y, it's like, sword and shield brought so many new people, or not new people, old people back for the first time that haven't played maybe since the GBA. Yeah. But for me, I came back and I was like, this is fine. Like, I came back and I wasn't necessarily like...

I think Sword and Shield's not a good game. But I think it's more iconic to the Switch than Let's go. But I think the reason why I think Let's go also is one is it is the first 150 Pokemon, right? Which I think allowed a lot of people to come back and be like, oh yeah, I could re-experience this thing again. But also it's like a new version of Pokemon.

Like it's a new spinoff or whatever you want to call it, right? A new branch of Pokemon. But it's a branch that nobody really wanted. And I feel like when you start looking at it, it's like you look at the Go, you look at Pokemon Go compared to this. Go is obviously so much more iconic just as a Pokemon game than Let's Go. Like, Let's Go did really well, and there's a lot of people who feared that that was going to be the new direction of Pokemon once it sold that well. Yeah.

But then Sword and Shield sold better. Sold way, way, way better. Like, I think it's like 11 million to 16 million. Yeah. And when you're looking at the month difference there, it's like we're talking about lifetime for Let's Go of having a year on a game that we're talking about already beating it by $5 million in a month total. You know? In that respect, Luigi's Mansion, that argument can also be put for that. But that's what the difference there, those were talking about Pokemon numbers, not.

Luigi's mansion numbers. Yeah, but Luigi's Manchin, like, in five years, Luigi's Mansion 2 did not sell what Luigi's mentioned 3 did in a month. Yeah.

Which is still, like, which is not to say it should be on the iconic list. I'm saying, like, wow, numbers are fucked up. People buy a lot of games. Well, the Switch 2 is just like,

you know, more people. I feel like the Switch has reinvigorated people's interest in Nintendo. In so many, so many ways where so many Nintendo diehards are going to buy everything

no matter what. But the Switch is the thing that's getting people in and are like, I didn't buy a Wii. I gave up after the Wii, you know. I went through my account, my main account, not my review account.

Of, like, my games on there, I have 64 games with a Switch, which in three years is a lot. That's a huge amount of games for a system. Yeah. Yeah. How do we feel about Nintendo Labo? Came in Wet. And I know that's, there are different games within Labo, right?

Yeah. And so we can't really count it as one. Giant Row. I don't know. I mean, we put three passes at one game. It's fair. Yeah. I would put, like, one two, Switch over Labo, though.

Well, that was looking at me the next thing I brought up. What about One-2 Switch? No one like... No one associates one-two Switch with Switch except to laugh about it. I mean, but that's still like an icon. But even that's not even a good laugh. It's more of like a... Like, they put this in the Vulture Program?

Really? Like, you can milk the cows, though. You can. That's true. That's the game that they should have probably packaged in, or not put out, but if anything packaged in with the Switch. So here's what we're going to do. I'm going to name the four games that are on the list.

I am then going to name all the rest of them and the three of us need to, in our own heads, choose the one that we think is that fifth. And then we'll say what they are. Okay. Top four we got right now. Smash Ultimate. Mario Cardi 8 Deluxe. Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild.

Which of these games to you is the fifth that belongs on that list? Hold on before we start reading the full list. Can I throw one more out there? Yes. Stardu Valley. I thought you're going to say WingFit Adventure. This is just convenient timing. I love it.

I fucking love it. Prophetic. Splatoon 2. Let's go Pikachu and Eby. Pokemon, Sword, and Shield. golf story Celeste Steamworld Dig

Sonic Mania Fire emblem 3 houses Octopath Traveler Minecraft Mario Plus Rabbids Kingdom Battle Luigi's Mansion 3 or Star Do you Do we not have

Link's Awakening? No I'm fine with that Yeah okay so on the count of three we're going to say our game 1 2 3 Celeste

2 Celeste it is. I was between Celeste and Octopath, but... I was between Celeste and Fire Rebel, but... I think Celeste gets it for me. Yeah. And I even, like... Hot take, I like Golf Story more than Celeste.

Like, I really like Golf Story. Dude, golf story is incredible. Celeste is perfect. Celeste is also great. Like, Celeste is also incredible. Celeste is a 10 out of 10. Golf Story is like a 8.5. Smash Ultimate, Mario Cardi Deluxe,

Mario Odyssey, Breath of Wild, Celeste. Again, fantastic list when it comes down to it. Ladies and gentlemen, that has been the most iconic portable Nintendo games. Yes, we included the Switch is portable because it's both. You know what I mean? Were you about to say, everyone? I was going to say, you could just buy these games and you'd be

set for the next five years. Like, of all the list we've made, just buy those like five games per system and you'd never have to play, or not never, but you would not have to play another game for a long time. So we're about to get into the post show. We're going to do a little bit of predicting the future, kind of like we did the Xbox thing. Do we think any future Switch game will break

into this top five? It's going to be a fun stuff. So patreon.com slash kind of funny game supporters. You can go check that out for everyone else. Until next time, I love you.