Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Top 5 Favorite Games of All-Time - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 24

Episode Date: June 27, 2015

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Starting point is 00:00:08 What's up guys? Welcome to the first ever episode 24 of The Kind of Funny Games cast. As always, I'm Tim Gettys. I'm joined by the coolest dudes in video games. Greg Miller, Colin Moriarty, and making a nice little special guest appearance. We got Nick Scarpino himself. It's a game over-grey crossover episode. This table. There you go. He knows how to do it.
Starting point is 00:00:27 He only knows how to do one show. This is a crazy show. We're doing something crazy. We're always doing crazy shit. But the crazy thing today is that we're shooting our episode after E3, before E3. and there's actually like a weak gap. So this is the furthest in advance we've ever shot. I'm glad so he won't.
Starting point is 00:00:43 So this games cast is being recorded before E3 happens. And rather than post it right during the week of E3 when you wouldn't want to watch it, you'd want to know about cool stuff happening at E3. We're posting it when E3 said and done. Yes, because we can't record an episode during the week of E3, a normal episode. Because we're going to be recording, at this point,
Starting point is 00:01:01 you'll have already known this, but we're recording especially three games cast throughout the week. Sure. So it's going to be fun. So we're going to do something different because we don't want to be talking about news and stuff from the future that we don't know. That'd be presumptions. Or boring shit from the past. Or that too.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Man, I wonder if Neil Druckman came out at E3 and then he came out on stage and everybody's like, hey, Neil Druckman's here. Like if we said that now, we would look stupid. I'm going to call this right now. Collin was right about everything. What a surprise. What a surprise. Just get in front of the table and genuflected out his feet. Why don't you?
Starting point is 00:01:32 I think that Colin was right that we're probably going to say. See fall out four in some shape or form, maybe a trailer early, maybe a week or too early, 4-83. What time period is this? What predictions need to be made? I can't remember. So what we're doing is we're going to talk about our favorite video games of all time. You guys have asked for this.
Starting point is 00:01:55 You've wanted this. Greg had the idea? I think it was Greg. Be careful what you asked for. Top fives. Yeah, top five. Our top five favorite games of all time. I'll predict.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Not best games. Our favorite games. Nix are Axiom verge. No. The first half of dying light. Wow. And then all files not found. Close.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Real close, Greg. You're a real, real funny guy with your cool slap bracelet. You put that on me. How are we going to do this? What is the system? So the system is we are going to start with Nick Scarpino. Oh, we are. Yes, we are.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And he is going to give us his five favorite games. But I'm going to allow him to add on whatever bullshit he needs to add on to that. If he wants to add honorable mentions, sure. If he wants to have a top 10, sure. The headline's still going to say top five. So that's what I'm doing. I'm just letting you know. We like to lie to our audience.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Before we get to that, there's the ring we're all. People need to know all this stuff. They can get this beautiful show. You know, every Monday through Thursday, broken up YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. We'll do a topic by topic. Full episode Friday. You can get it early.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Patreon.com slash kind of funny games. It's great. It's a whole adventure. You should do it. If you want to leave topics for us to talk about, you should go to the kind of funny forums, a kind of funny.com slash forums. The links right here if you're watching the YouTube video.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Kevin. Kevin, no, screw that. up Kevin. It's clickable because Kevin's awesome. Probably. Probably clickable. But anyways, leave your topics there. We'll be grabbing them from you guys and thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:17 We love you so much. Now that that's out the way. Nick. Yes. What are your favorite games in all the time? Yes, brother. Well, you know, obviously I'm not as hardcore of a gamer as you guys are. So when I think of the games that I've played or my favorite games,
Starting point is 00:03:29 I have to think back to the games that I was, like, religious about. Like, the games that I craved when I was at high school or in a junior high, I'm like, I got to come home. and I got to play this game and one of the top ones on my list has got to be Doom I've talked about it a little before but it's one of those games where it came I had like
Starting point is 00:03:46 it came in like a box as PC games used to yeah and BC games and no no it was the discs were actually like three and a quarter inch flopper it was like 30 of them and you had to just sit there and install over and I just remember oh three and a half inches
Starting point is 00:04:00 three and a half inches yeah quarter four four five and five and a quarter were the floppies yeah Tim you read about this your history books. Yeah, that was definitely with the time of high school. So that was a game that was given to me actually by my old music teacher back when I was in seventh grade. He was like, you're going to love this game. Way too young for kids, old man. Yeah, he was cool. He was a cool guy named Michelle Usher. He was the dope. He was the dopeness. Was your music teacher Usher?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah. Wow. Wow. I didn't even put that together. How can he didn't discover me like J. Bebes? But he gave me that game and we, and it was one of those, it was the first instance where I was like, well, first it was maybe one of the originators of piracy as well, because we We gave it to every single person. We were like, here, install this, install us, install us. I'm sure Ed Software really loved that back in the day. But that was one of those when you installed it because I had seen it somewhere and I'm like, I have to have this. I need to play this game.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And I had to figure out like how to, if my system specs were correct, they could play the game and like how to go into my bios and like turn stuff off so it wasn't taking RAM. Sure. So that I could like free up the two megabytes of RAM that my computer had that they could play it. And then when you finally got into it and you heard that like, Like, oh, like, you know, you saw the, the Doom logo at the very beginning of it, and you started it, and you're just in that first level. Like, I can probably play that first level blind right now and just, and probably negotiate and hit the guy up at the front of the stairs and get the secret passage and all that stuff. So that's, that's got to be top, one of the top of my list. This is not in any ranked order specifically.
Starting point is 00:05:26 The next one I have is another one of those games that I played religiously. Never beat because I'm terrible at strategy games, but I'm going to give it to XCOM. it's one of those games that I didn't realize was such a big deal until I started working at IGN and when they started doing top lists I saw pop up there and like oh you guys know XCOM and everyone's like yeah everyone knows we know XCOM and it was just to me it was one of those games where like you can't judge a book by its cover but uh you can because this cover the cover was awesome you flip it around you're like holy crap uh this looks like my kind of game it was right in the height of when I was super into X files as well and so like it said I had the able to
Starting point is 00:06:03 conspiracy. He had to be these babes, had the X, they really had the nice connection. So I played the hell out of that game. And actually, that's one of those experiences where it forged a huge friendship
Starting point is 00:06:15 between myself and my good friend, Ryan, because he came over to my house for a spend the night, for a sleepover. This was back in the day. We used to trade. I used to go over to his mom would make us cookies,
Starting point is 00:06:26 and then he'd come over to my house and eat a ton of cookies as well. And we would play, We would just mess around on the computer, and he's like, what is this new game you have? I was like, I check this out. It's called XCOM. And then he ended up playing it all night to the point where my mom came out at around 6 a. and was like, you need to go to bed.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And I had gone to sleep like six hours really. I was like, dude, you got this. And that for him, I think, was one of the first real eye-opening experiences with computer games because he was a Mac guy. So all he had was the old bungee game. Marathon. Marathon. All I had was, every time I'd play something on my PC, he'd be like, well, I got Marathon. I'm like, hey, bro, that's good.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Good for you. Marathon looks great. Um, so I'll give it to Xcom. Another, uh... Did you play the new one? No, no. I didn't go into it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:08 There's been a couple since, right? Yeah. Well, I played Xcom. I think I played X. There was like a one where they, they lost me when they went to Atlanta, when it went underwater. I was like, this isn't cooling more. Space is way cooler than, than underwater games.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Um, but speaking of space and X's, uh, I'll put, this is an honorable mention. I don't know if it belongs in my top five list, but I will put Xwing up there as one of my top, top on the list. That was another one of those games where I'm like, you know, I used, to go to a place called Egg Software to get all my all my games and I was like look I'm playing this game but like it's terrible right now because I have to like you'd have to use the arrows
Starting point is 00:07:41 because I didn't know to use the mouse because I wasn't smart like that and eventually I got a flight stick and the flight stick was a game changer for me so you know I started record shop on that I didn't never beat that game either I got to look at my elbows oh and then probably on my top list I would have to say gold and I has to be there
Starting point is 00:08:00 to a certain degree that's a great picture When I think about, obviously, like, the experiences of that the specific, like, two summers that I played that game and Mario Kart 64. I'm not going to say Mario Carrow is my favorite, but I played the hell out of that game. But Gold and I was, like, right at the height of me being a huge Bond fan. It was right at the height of me really being introduced to the series via Perce Brosnan when he came in. The best. The best. He's up there. He's up there, but he's not my favorite bond. The best. I don't know. Best is a relative term.
Starting point is 00:08:28 In my top five bonds, it's all Pierce Brosnan. Just Pierce Brosant. It's all of the movies that he's done, including The World is Not Enough. Wildly touted as one of the worst Bond movies ever made. Which one was that? The only one I've ever seen in full was the one that I thought of Christmas only came once a year. That's the World is Not Enough.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, the best, the best Bond, Pierce Broson. Literally, what are the worst. But I loved Golden Eye, and I loved Golden Eye for the single player. And then when we started playing the split screen multiplayer, it was just like N-Kin. Whole new. Whole new world. And it was hilarious because you had to, it was like learning a second language with that controller, because it didn't really make a whole lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:08:59 You were like, you know, depending on the game. game that had just the analog sticks straight in the middle like a little like one nipple just sitting out looking at you in the face um but all my friends we picked it up and we used to go to my buddy todd's house he had a little he had his room was in the basement he was big ass tv so it was the only tv we could actually play on that wasn't like you didn't have to sit one foot away from you figure out where you were going um and i used be really good really good at that the point where proxivity mines were mine jam yeah my damn facility prox mines only absolutely everybody knows where they are but you can't move yep fuck stale night he mined he totally
Starting point is 00:09:31 totally mind the cross beam I can't get over there You were screwed if you start Like basically the game It was like a game of chess Where if you started in the air duct You weren't winning that You weren't winning the match
Starting point is 00:09:43 It really was It was you know the luck of the draw Like if you started in the room with the tanks You're like dope I got this I can go across the hall I get the proxy mines and just go at it And just mine the shit out of everything And you just sit in your little
Starting point is 00:09:53 Just sit and a little cocoon Yeah Waiting to hear at explosion And by waiting to hear I mean just looking at your buddy's screams Because that was the other That was the other lost art of that right which is like we don't have that experience anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Now when we play co-op or multiplayer games, you're not, you don't have that extra easy element of being able to develop that second sense where you're not even looking at your screen anymore. You're not. You're just looking at everyone else's screen. And you know where you're at. You're looking at your screen and your peripheral visions,
Starting point is 00:10:16 but you're watching everyone else's screen. You literally play like this. And then when it's time for the kill shot, you glance over, pull the trigger and you're back to everyone else's screen. I feel like with a lot of modern games now, like single player, you'll be playing and you don't even look at the actual game. You're just looking at the map to navigate.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So you're just like, you're totally just going. You see the colors, and you're just going. That was how it was. It's like, you don't look at your screen. You just kind of follow what everyone else is doing. See the walls and shit. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:37 You know where you are and what the pattern of the walls in the room here in. So you're looking to see that. I told the story before, but back when me and Alfredo would play Halo all the time, like, Halo 1, I would just literally look down. And I knew where I was based on, like, the patterns of grass and shit. And I was like, you motherfuckers can't cheat off me. I know where I am. You don't.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Is that because you just knew where every single spot was that you could hide and camp in? Yeah. Well, I mean, all I would do is play Caption of Flash. My sole goal is capturing the goddamn flag. I need to kill people. It's not the point of the game. It's not the point. That's just the one of the player.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I went to the big players. Yeah. So I would just sneak up like a damn spider monkey, get in there, get the flag. They wouldn't know what's coming. Yeah, golden was special. It was all that multiplayer. It really was. And then I think probably top of my list, if not.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Number one. That's got to be Half-Life. I loved Half-Life. I loved that game. I loved the environment. I loved the weird storyline that I couldn't even tell you what it was now. Head friends. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It had such a great feel to the game. And it had such a great sort of, it wasn't like, it wasn't humor necessarily, but it had a little bit of tongue and cheekness to it where there was like this chaotic things going on. And of course it spawned a lot of other stuff outside of that. Which, I'm not mistaking what they had. Counterstrike was based off of it, Team Fortress. Should I mean shit? Half-Life 2. Half-Life 2, I guess.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Half-E episode 1, 2 and hopefully 1-2. Is Portal the same world? Portal. Yeah. No, it's in the same world. Portal. I mean, the orange box basically is all half-live.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And that was awesome, too. Like, Portal was an amazing experience. Portal 2, not so much. You're fucking crazy. No. Your list is invalidated. Remove him! Great.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Great game, don't get me wrong. But the first time you played Portal, I was like, this is fucking amazing. And he played Portal 2. You're like, this is great, great experience. But it's more of the same. So, I mean, they added some more mechanics. Wheatley was a game changer. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Only because I know who that actor is. He's hilarious. Steve immersion. Yeah. And then honorable mention, I got a gift to Final Fantasy 11. I hate you so fucking much, Nick. It's one of the most immersive
Starting point is 00:12:39 Final Fantasy experiences. It's Tim's favorite. Oh, God, damn. It'll be on his list shortly. And I just, when I played that game, all three hours that experience were great for me. And then I'll give it to Massive Chalice as well. You haven't even played Master Chalice yet.
Starting point is 00:12:55 You just heard me out there saying, I didn't even do it. Let's play Massive Chalice. But everybody should buy it. massive chalice free on Xbox 1 right now it's over on PC what up double fun and then yeah my last last game is just I'll give all honorable mention to Arkhamis Highland I really loves that game as far as like more recently recent series I love the Batman series love it love it love the combat I give that I give it to that game because it's one of those games that that made combat in a third person game
Starting point is 00:13:20 perfect and then everyone you start seeing that everyone starts iterating on top of that Assassin's Creed did it a little bit first but they didn't do it as well they didn't do it right that hand-to-hand like brutality of when you see him like the first time you play it and then when the first time you play it and you actually manage to chain that combo where he goes like you'll be hitting hitting hitting hitting block and then flip all the way across the room
Starting point is 00:13:40 and just slam someone in the face. You're like this is the way this should be forever. Like this is perfect. This they nailed it. This is how Batman should be in everything. Animated series movies, everything. He should fight like this. They try to do that stuff like they try to have that
Starting point is 00:13:56 that sense of chaos when you watch him in the dark night or any of that stuff, like they'll see, they'll shoot it closer and he'll drop into the circle and be, like, doing that weird, like, crab maga or whatever the style was. Except for Dark Night Rises, when they're like, let's put a lot of light on him and just show how slow all this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Let's shoot it wide, too. Make sure we shoot it wide and make sure that we... Let's really make it look like it's a guy in a bat suit just punching a really bald guy. So, yeah, that's, I mean, that's... That's why when you play those games and all, you know, and you have that experience and you feel like you're actually Batman for the first time.
Starting point is 00:14:26 You're like, this is a great... Yeah, Arkham Asylum, man. That was another game that was like, fucking, they nailed it. Nobody expected them to nail it. I remember leaving the first preview. They came through to show that to us at IGN. And it was the first preview I had to do it with Anthony Gayeus, who was doing it for GameSpy. And we left, and he was like, that seemed pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I was like, I don't know, was it? Like, I couldn't, it was one of those demos where they dropped them into the combat arena. This is how our fighting system was, and then jump to, all right, and here's how, you know, the, what did they call it? The stealth predator or whatever they call it, the predator mode. The stealth detective mode? No, where you're just, sort of. swinging around, you know, the part where you're, they have guns, so you have to just stay in the shadows. And so, like, that was such a weird, like, light, dark kind of thing, you know, it was
Starting point is 00:15:06 just like an apple and orange experience of like, how does that mesh together in a video game? Where they're like, you're running around and you can kind of do anything. And this, that's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, then you play it. Yeah, like, oh, fuck, all right. You see that, like, you come to that first area where, you know, you kind of, I guess you come in and it's at the court yard area. Invisible predator. Is that what it was? Something like that. And yeah, the first time you kind of like jump off and just fucking kick a guy in the face with both boots and then immediately flip and slam it and then the next guy you're like this is that's Batman man that's how Batman should be that's how he should have that sort of fierceness but also I loved that mechanic
Starting point is 00:15:39 I love that everyone had guns and I love that you still had to rely on stealth and there was a little bit of the time you don't have to go too far with being a detective quote unquote oh sure yeah it walks you but it's awesome that you have to use the shadows and you have to do what Batman would do but use everything at your disposal to eliminate the enemy. See, I love that experience, and I'm super excited for, well, I guess by the time this comes out, we'll be able to play.
Starting point is 00:16:00 You'll, yes, this will be going live on Monday. For YouTube. Yes. The week after that one will probably have copies of it. That's awesome. No, this is going live the week of Batman. So Batman's on Tuesday. It's Monday right now for somebody on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Hello. It might be Tuesday after one. Did we survive E3 is all I want to know. It's touch and go at the month. moment. It's touch and go at the moment, sir. Or ma'am or thing. Did computers become sentient in this dark future before Batman?
Starting point is 00:16:30 I don't think... That's the PC gaming conference announcement 83. And by the way, PCs are fucking live now. And they're watching YouTube videos. All right, Greg. What are your favorite games of all times? Is my turn? You know what?
Starting point is 00:16:46 No, it's my turn. I'm going to go with me. That sounds better. Before you do that then, I want to thank you. all of our patrons. We have two months of Patreon people to go through and thank you because we keep forgetting because we're so busy. So there's number one. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Thank you for all your support, ladies and gentlemen. We love you very much. And thank you to all the new computers that I'll be supporting us now that they're sentient. I don't think they're going to support us. They're probably just going to kill us. They just watched your topping and had a ball. Did they?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah. Oh, tweet at me. All right, I'm going to go. I'm going to hijack this, Greg. Okay. Can I guess your first two? Yeah. Crash Bandicoot?
Starting point is 00:17:24 No. Pokemon. Snap. Red and blue. No. Pokemon fire and ice. Good Lord. Pokemon diamonds and pearls.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Diamonds and pearls. No. Good Lord. All right. No? This isn't going to be an order. I'm just going to name my five games. As you could expect, a lot of them are Nintendo.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Because Nintendo makes really good games. And there's a vast library to pick them. There's a vast library. None of them 3DS. Honorable mention. to 3DS, but none of the actual picks. Yoshi's Island.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I will stand by that, being one of the best, most creative 2D platformers of all time. You're going to put that above any of the Mario games? Okay. But above other Mario games, I mean, it's hard because they're different, but this is, I'm not saying it's better. I just prefer it. It's my favorite.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's your jam. Because Mario 3, Mario World, my God, it hurts to me to not put these on this list. But I'm only saying five. I feel like I would choose Yoshi's Island over those. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, I've explained many times why.
Starting point is 00:18:28 We did a let's play on it. We played for a long time. No, yeah. It certainly played. You did the book club, too. We did the book club, too. It was great. And I think that that game gets shot on a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's just not talked about. And I feel like a lot of people didn't even. It's ignored. For sure. And I feel like a lot of people don't give it actually a chance. Okay. Because then I think that it was at the end of the Super Nintendo era when everyone was kind of moving on
Starting point is 00:18:51 and everyone had already seen Mario World and it had the Mario World name in it which pissed people off because they're like, this isn't Mario World too and it's not. It's really not. If they just called Yoshi's Island,
Starting point is 00:19:00 I think it would have got a better rep. But you know what? I'm down for it. It was the first game I ever beat. So that definitely, there's a lot of nostalgia factor in there for me. Sure. I'd put that for sure,
Starting point is 00:19:13 possibly at the top of the list. But it's somewhere in there. Bold. Yeah, bold. Now, another thing that I think is easy to say is Super Smash Bros. What's harder... Which one?
Starting point is 00:19:23 That was on my list. Melee. So, Brawl on my list. Malay is the one that everybody would love to say. It's everyone's favorite. And like,
Starting point is 00:19:33 oh, it's more competitive and all that stuff. And I have amazing memories playing melee. That was the first GameCube game that I had. I had the GameCube before. It came out because it came out two weeks later, which I'll never understand.
Starting point is 00:19:46 But I remember just sitting there with the GameCube waiting to play this game. holding the controller, imagining playing Smash Bros. And just the day it happened. I was like, oh, my God. Who are these Marth being? But it was so good. And going back from that, like, then 64 Smash Bros.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Like, that was so many of my days. So many of my nights. Like, that was just my life playing that damn game with 12 characters. And then for melee to come and just blow it out 25 characters, it's like... Well, I never played melee. I mean, you missed out. I know. I had a bunch of friends that did.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And it was one of the... Again, it was one of those experiences where they had been playing for like three or four months before I got my hands on the control. And then it was done. I was like, I can't win this game. These guys are kicking this shit out of me. I mean, melee really took Smash to another level. Like, it took it to be hyper competitive. I mean, 64 was competitive, especially like in a bedroom setting of just like, I'm playing with my friends.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And we all got super competitive. And it's like, oh, dude, I'm better than you at Smash Bros. I'm better than you at Smash Bros. Everyone just uses fucking Kirby and throws incessantly. But, like, melee really kind of took it to that next level. Oh, this is actually, this is. deep. There is a fighting game in here. And
Starting point is 00:20:55 it caused so much controversy. Is it a fighting game? Is it not? The fact that even had that conversation says something about that game. You know, and everyone that had a GameCube had that game. Everyone loved it. Everybody had their main character they played and all these different stories and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:12 But then Brawl happened. And a lot of the melee lovers didn't like Brawl too much. They slowed it down a bit. It's tripping. And there was fucking tripping. They intentionally made it a little less competitive. There's a lot of bad things about brawl. But brawl is my favorite smash bra.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It's the best. Really? Yes. Oh, yeah. Brawl's really good. I still say, in my opinion, that having spent a lot of time now with the Wii one, that the games just get better.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I actually feel like the Wii one might be my favorite one. Because it has a huge roster, and it's fucking awesome. It has, like, all these stages, and I think it's great. I think the games just get progressively better. I know I love the melee when... The N-64 when I liked. I remember playing it and having a good time with it,
Starting point is 00:21:47 and it was like fine. I felt like the roster was a little limited. Melee was really special. I remember, too, I got my GameCube, you know, day one. I think I got, like, Luigi's Mantra to something. You had to wait a little bit. Mario. Maybe Eternal Darkness, too.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Around that time? Maybe not. No, Eternal Darkness was next year. Yeah, Eternal Darkness was 2002, I think. So I think it was just Louisiana's mansion. And then, yeah, I got smashed when it came out. And I was like, this is really a special game. But when I got brawl on Wii, I was like, this game's clearly better than melee.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I don't understand, like, maybe not in a fundamental, like, you know, nuts and bolts thing. If you're really competitive with the game, but I was like, I don't understand how this game isn't better than melee. And now I'm playing the Wii one. And I'm like, I don't understand how this isn't better than brawl. Yeah. And I mean, I agree with you in that sense of like I do now, like the Wii one better than Brawl. It's just brawl is my favorite because of time and place entirely. Like that was the game that, so melee I had played with my friends.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And then all of my little brother's friends had also played that game with their friends, but I didn't know them then. But then when Brawl came out, it was kind of like this really nice, like cross-generational thing. It was his friends, my friends, like all these different people playing this game because we'd grown up with 64. We'd grown up with melee. And brawl was kind of just that like next level thing of just we're going to now we're adults yeah let's all of us are adults let's play this game and man we would just get so into it and it's like none of us were good to the point of being able to say oh I like melee better because it's faster and all that stuff but it's like good for the people that believe that and that's why
Starting point is 00:23:09 um I think for us we don't care because we don't get it on that level we're not competitive smash players like the way dashing doesn't make sense to us and like all that like we don't get the shit about the frames of attacks like we don't understand that we just know that's Seth killing kind of stuff. You like using Link. You have a couple combos you do. You know what I mean? You have these things, but you have so much fun doing it.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And you can play against a pro or an idiot and still have fun doing it. And I think that's something special about Smash Bros. Because it's not fun playing Street Fighter against a pro. Sure. Good point. That's just not. But then with the Wii one, it's like, I could never put that down as my favorite just because I put countless hours into Brawl. Whether it was me and my friends, me and my little brother's friends are coming to IGN.
Starting point is 00:23:48 and Brawl was like the freaking Bees' knees, man, years after its release. So Brawl came out in 2008. And I started IGN in 2010, I think. So two years later, and we were still playing it, like, every day for a while. Yeah, we, I remember we played it. We unlocked all the characters at first because we had the Japanese version. And so we had unlocked all the characters on one specific version, I think it was Mark Ryan's Japanese.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And then he had it in his way. and it somehow got lost in the transition from the old office to the new office and then we found it and it it got lost and I remember like being almost heartbroken we had to go back and play through and unlock all the characters and then our crime's like dude I'll do that in like half a day it's not a big deal I'm like oh cool I remember what he did that yeah and then it got hooked up by Fran's desk which was almost it was almost too perfect because Fran as everyone knows is just he's so consummate workaholic like he never stops working, but he's also never at his desk.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And so it would always piss him off at the end of the day when it would be like 5, 36 o'clock. And I would be like, I would go over to prayer and be like prayer. I would actually send him notes or I AMs or I would take pictures of signs that just say challenge question mark and just send him to him and he'd be like, God damn it's Scarpe. I got work through it. I'm like, I'm your boss. You get the fuck over on that brawl.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It says him right now. We just play some brawl. And it was one of those things where it literally united almost the entire company at a certain degree because people from accounting would come down. People from engineering would walk over, random freelancers would come over. Editorial people that I'd never really even talk to. I'll be like, oh, I play, yeah, I'll get down on that.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And then every single one of them would end up hating me after they played three rounds with me because I'm the most annoying player on the planet. But Brawl really is a time and a place. And it's probably one of the games that I've played most in my entire life. You can actually count the hours. It probably is the longest I've ever played a game. And it's absurd that that game was that old
Starting point is 00:25:39 and we were still playing it. But it's fun. Yeah. I mean, Smash Bros. in general, it nails the one more match mentality. It's just like, all right, we'll just do one more. We'll just do one more. And then it's 6 a.m. You're like, fuck, one more.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Oh, dude, people like, Pereira, I many times has missed his train because of that. Yeah. But he's like, dude, I have a train. Like, it leaves in five minutes. I was like, bro, we can get in. He's like, I got to walk. I'm like, run.
Starting point is 00:25:58 You run. We play one more round right now. And he's like, fuck, all right, let's go. I think one of the defining moments of our friendship was when your wife was out of town and you hit me up. You hit me up. You're like, Tim. D's gone.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. Bring your we. to my house. We're playing smash for us. I'm like, all right, let's do it. I go to his house with Alfredo. We just start playing. And then all this music, should I call Pereira?
Starting point is 00:26:18 He calls Mike Pereira. Mike Pereira fucking taxis over. We just fucking played all night. What was hilarious about that was that was yearning. I love that experience of, because it really is, when you have someone that's super good at it, like you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:26:32 if someone's competitive at it, it's not fun. You need people that have kind of grown up with it together. So I know exactly how you play. I know how these guys play. I know how to, I know if I'm having a, good match if I can beat when you guys are not or if it's just time to just relax it gives
Starting point is 00:26:44 a shit and have fun and choose other character and do what they got to do but that night specifically was hilarious because remember you got there and I just got in this brand new 15 inch Panasonic Jesus Kevin Kevin just he didn't hit anything he pushed off that table and the whole thing swayed at like a 30 degree and came back and I'm like I just understand why he has to he physically causes waves in the air with how he moves he's like Superman it doesn't make sense it made of steel of course but that night was hilarious because you y'all came over I just got in this brand new 15 inch plasma and I didn't realize that I had the connectors for the coax.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah. The component. Excuse me. And so we ended up playing on a 32 inch Samsung monitor in 720. That's why you invited us over is because he had this brand new TV. So we're so, we're like, oh, we got to break this in. It's going to be fucking beautiful. And then it's like, oh, fuck, we, the, we doesn't have HTML.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Like, we can't connect it because we didn't have the freaking thing. He's like, fuck, it's not in the box. Like shit. So we were so pissed. So he literally gets this tiny little TV and we put it in front of the big TV. and we didn't give a fuck. We sat and played. It was until like a week later that you found out that it was like,
Starting point is 00:27:46 you might put it somewhere. The Panasonic TVs at the time, I don't know if they still do this or not, but they had a... Dongle. It's a don't know if it's a dongle, basically, that you plug into a port. I don't know if it's an HTML port or a proprietary port
Starting point is 00:27:59 that has the three colors that come out of it. Yeah. And I didn't realize that. And I had it. It chips with the TV, but I was like, what the shit is this? I'm never going to need this. And, of course, filed it away.
Starting point is 00:28:10 someplace that I probably couldn't find it right now if I needed it to, but thank God everything runs off of HTMLI. Thank God we standardized the inputs. Thanks Nintendo. It was just it was too crazy. I remember buying my component cables for Wii thinking it was going to make it look better and it looked indistinguishable. Not, man, I supposedly it's
Starting point is 00:28:26 better. Dude, Smash Bros. looks way better. I remember it was I think I finally got with like Zach and Wiki or something like that and that was that was when I was still playing Wii a lot and I remember Paul Young and be like, I can't even tell the difference. I didn't have a huge TV at the time and I'm like, I don't know why I just bought these. It was like it was a Nintendo
Starting point is 00:28:40 Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. You had to be the Nintendo one. Because it had that weird like that weird plug right. Yep. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:28:48 It was gray. It was like that beautiful gray color. And yeah, it was, I don't remember that really well. Fucking we. Yeah, they got,
Starting point is 00:28:54 they smartened up quick because if I remember correctly, the NES and S&ES had just regular coax. They're not going to podcast. I'm saying coax like that's a thing. It was coaxial. It was the one way.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, it was the gray box and you put it into your cable and then you put the cable into the back of the box. Was that right? Yeah. At one point, though, they did have composite cables.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It was PS1, N64, Saturn, Dreamcasts, like, were the first ones that really do that. Super Newton had it, too. Yeah, but you had to buy that separately. The ones that came in the box started with that particular generation. And I remember with my PS1, I still had a TV with my PS1 and my Dreamcasts where I had to go and it was the exact opposite problem. I had to go then it would come with composite cables and I had to go buy the coaxil cable because I didn't have that on my TV. One of the biggest heartbreaks of my life was my mom buying me in N6. 64 and my o'clock
Starting point is 00:29:41 getting home and being like what the fuck are these colored things right right right right right I need the little thing so I had to go to blockbuster buy some broke assing RIF converter yeah that was I had it I'm for the N64 after years of being trained to use the coaxle cable I set the N64 up this is in high school in between the two chairs that are like across the room from the TV and then ran an RF converter at the back and put the coaxil cable in and ran this
Starting point is 00:30:04 obscene like 20 foot cable over the TV and I remember one day I had moved it to a friend's house and brought back. I'm like, oh, let's see, I've heard that the composite cables make it look better than it. And it was like, all of a sudden super bright and colorful. I was like, I've been fucking this up for like a year and a half running it on this stupid thing. That's so
Starting point is 00:30:22 fun. I mean, I was so young, I didn't even notice. I mean, I didn't know there was a difference. You know what I mean? The connection was like direct. You know, like the signal didn't get weaker as it went. Oh, like I was doing it. I do remember though, the NES, not the top loader, but the standard NES was way ahead of its time in the fact that there was
Starting point is 00:30:38 a monoport that you could put plug a single audio cable into and then there was a single visual port that you could play so like was it an s video so you could no not as video but you could buy like a single video like the you know the yellow white and red cords wherever you could buy just the yellow cord and or you can have them all but like you had to plug in the white and the yellow and there was nowhere for the red because I guess it was there was not stereo sound so uh you could do that with like some agnostic cables if you wanted to but I didn't even know that until I was in college that like that was I just never even paid attention to any of these ports.
Starting point is 00:31:09 there's all sorts of weird shit in the N. Yeah, there is. I mean, doesn't the NIS... The Famicom in Japan can connect to the internet. You know what I mean? Like that... Really?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, had like a thing called... It was Seteleview, I think it was called, right? Yeah. Without Nias or Sinius? It was NES, I think. Yeah, we could look it up. But yeah, Satella view was like this thing where you could download.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I'll look it up now. Like, the Famicom... For as much shit as we give them for their hardware and so like that, like their shit was kind of way ahead of its time. I'm gonna look it up. Satella view. Oh, God. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Oh, God. Wiki. Look up. Because there was a Zelda game that was exclusive to Satellaview. That was, it was Super Nintendo. Let me see here. No, you're right. Satelloview.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, it can't have been, right. It can't have been N. N.S. That was way, way, way, way, way. It was a satellite modem prefer for Super Famicom. It was a F.0 game and a Zelda game. Yeah, that's what it was. So what am I thinking about the NES?
Starting point is 00:31:56 I want to look it up now. You guys can keep going. Famicom. All right. All right. All right. All right. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I'm sorry. There was a Famicomodom. There was also another one? It was a Famicomboat. It was released in 1988. A video game preferable for Nintendo's family computer released in late 1988 only in Japan. You used a card-based format
Starting point is 00:32:13 reminiscent of the Who card for Hudson Softs NEC's PC engine. And second card for Master System because Master System was doing the same thing. It would give you live stock trades, game cheats, jokes, weather forecast, horse betting and a small amount and a small amount of downloadable content.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I knew that that existed. I'll tell you what. I just got the names wrong. I was a kid when I was 7-8, I really was like, I need an outlet for my horse betting. if I can't bet on the horses right now bet on the ponies they called that's true
Starting point is 00:32:37 I called the ponies back then I'm sorry I interrupted the next game is no surprise it is a Pokemon game I've said this before it's not snap it is gold black Gen 2 you don't listen to Tim closely enough gold gold and silver I just like Pokemon snap too but it's definitely not
Starting point is 00:32:53 the best game of all time Pokemon gold and silver I think is the greatest generation of Pokemon and I don't think it'll ever be beat a lot of people would say that red and blue are the best but that's like people that say I fall fast and fantasy God damn it.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Fast and Furious one is better than the new ones. They'd be right. No, they would be totally wrong. It would be correct. No, they wouldn't. It's just like, just because it's the first, doesn't make it the best.
Starting point is 00:33:15 It was awesome. Super Mario Brothers 1 is amazing. It is not better than three. It is not better than World. Like, that's not even, you can't say that. Does it get points for being the first? It does.
Starting point is 00:33:25 You got to give it the credit. But it's like, anybody that says Super Mario Bros is their favorite game. Like, I question that. Look, I'm going to go on a limb and say, though, that as far as series that are important
Starting point is 00:33:36 to humanity Fast and Furious ranks way higher than Mario on your list, okay? Going back to the Pokemon Furious is the best game of all time. Fast and Furious supercharged. Boom.
Starting point is 00:33:51 You guys are a lot more subdued on this podcast than you're on the other ones. It's weird. Stim's turn. I'll let you go. At this point, Greg normally would have shut me out three times I shot me this look.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'm not the host on this one. Here I can just be a goon like you. A goon like you. We're all just goons. Cool. Sorry, continue. So Pokemon Red and Blue,
Starting point is 00:34:09 I feel like a lot of people say are the best because they're the first ones. And they hold a very special place in my heart. Those are the first ones I played. Totally won me over. And they kind of were an evolution in video games to me, my first RPG. And in a lot of ways,
Starting point is 00:34:22 I think it's a lot of people's first RPG. Yeah, it's definitely baby's first RPG. As we talked about it on our previous games. I mean, it really did introduce a lot of people to roll it. Yeah. And it's, I love it. And it could be deep. if you want it to be and like people to this day
Starting point is 00:34:34 are still playing with like their EV training, IV training, all that bullshit. Yeah. Deep. Deep. Today is June 9th, by the way, so it's 6'9. Six and a night. No, not doing it on this show.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Wow, what's happening here? That's a little bit. It feels good, actually. So Pokemon Red and Blue were great and they kind of set this world up for everybody and the battle systems and like the introduced people to the world of Pokemon, what Pokemon are and the eight gyms and blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:35:00 and then Golden Silver came. progressed the story along, actually made the story matter a little bit more than it did in the first one, and it was right off of the first one. So it's an actual sequel, unlike the bunch of the rest of them. They're all set in the same world,
Starting point is 00:35:14 and you get little hints and stuff, but golden silver was two years after the red and blue and expanded all that. You get the eight gyms. Then you get to go back to the first region from red and blue, go through all that, and it was a little broken
Starting point is 00:35:25 because it was like simple, and they probably should have upped the level caps of some of the things because they had the same levels as they did in the first game. So at that point, you already played... It's like New Game Plus, but... No one's on your level.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah, exactly. Everyone was just weak, so it didn't matter. They fixed that in the Heart Gold, Heart Gold, Soul, Silver. So I might even say that those are my favorite, because the improvements they made and those games were fucking awesome. They sped up the combat a little bit, which was another issue.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But there is no moment in gaming that was as special to me as the end of golden silver when you get all 16 badges, beat the Elite 4 again, and then face red from the first game. It was just like, good Lord. This is fucking epic. It was just perfect. And you face off against him, he has the Charzard,
Starting point is 00:36:12 blastoys, venosaur, snorlax, lapris, and a fucking level 86 Pikachu. Deal with it, son. Deal with it. So in this series, red and blue are enemies. Yes. I see. So that's what the name comes from.
Starting point is 00:36:27 The name comes from a lot of things, but yes. Was I right? assuming there was a diamond and pearls. Yes. Those are my favorite Pokemon games. Okay, cool. Is that where Prince got the song from? Yes, presumably. That is. He was sitting there playing on his... D.S.
Starting point is 00:36:42 D.S. And he was like, I'm going to go back in time and write this song right now. I bet he did. And what did he say? I'm going to write the song. Damn. Those were the last ones I played all the way through. I'm pretty sure Diamond and Pearl actually was the one that introduced time travel. Was it? Maybe I'm wrong about that. you right now, guys.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Because then you can trade with the GBA games. So, yeah, they're out of time travel function. So there you go, Nick. You're right about something. You're probably wrong about the print stuff, though. We'll never know.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'm not going to confirm or deny that. So moving on, I'm going to switch it up, and it's not a Nintendo game. Oh! But it's another thing. I guess a lot of my choices are my personal favorites
Starting point is 00:37:22 that I don't think really kind of... Get the love. Get the love, but also wouldn't be other people's favorites of even these series. I'm trying to limit it to one of a series It's a little hard in some ways But for this, it is Metal Gear Solid.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah. And my choice is Metal Gear Solid 4. What the fuck? Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of my favorite games of all time Because the experience of that, I'll never forget. Of course.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Did not want to put, like, I was a fanboy of that series at that point. I fucking loved them, and I just wanted more. And Four was just like, hey, hey, Tim, you like Solid Snake? Oh, yeah, you. I know you do. We're not doing this big boss shit.
Starting point is 00:37:59 We're giving you fucking solid snake. Nick and we're going to answer all the questions that you ever had about all this series. Are we going to give you good answers? Not entirely. What are you talking about? Malawi Lalo. Some of it's going to be bullshit.
Starting point is 00:38:10 But it's like that doesn't even matter. Like I feel like that it did. It was such fan service and I love fan service. Is it a perfect game? No, definitely not. Is there enough gameplay in it? I wanted way more. And there was a shit ton of cutscenes.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I don't have a problem with that. Yeah. I just wish there was more gameplay. Sure. But the gameplay that was there, I fucking loved. the moments there, like going back to Shadow Moses It was like, Oh, act four, how can I forget?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Holy shit, that was awesome. Then the end of Act 4? Yep. When you're in fucking Rex, battle in Ray. Yep. I would have, like, that game consistently surprised me,
Starting point is 00:38:44 and I was like, I can't believe they're doing this. I can't believe they're doing this. Freaking, Raiden being actually kind of cool in a way that was like, he was cool. No, he was cool.
Starting point is 00:38:54 But, I mean, it was so over the top. Oh, sure. But that's, I mean, I feel like the, Kajima's plane had left the ground at that point. We couldn't be reaching out, trying for it to get back to Earth with us. Yeah, but like, him holding the boat back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Like, what the fuck? But awesome. But awesome, right? Yeah, yeah. And then those final, the final scenes or the final chapter of that game was just so emotional. The Army crawl. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:18 All the bosses, like, going back to like the, they were like the, the, um, sirens. What were they even called? Oh, the Fury's Beauty and the Beast. Beauty and the Beast. Yeah. Which obviously is awesome. But they were just like throwbacks to the. Sure.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Your Psycho Mantis and the Decoy Octopus-like thing We actually get to fight them All that stuff was so good The sniper wolf throwbacks like man That game just fucking nailed the fan service of It was just like a here you go fans of metal gear This is a next gen experience This is something that's fucking special
Starting point is 00:39:45 And that you're gonna Like I couldn't stop thinking about that game When I'd be away from it I want to just keep replaying it I'm like good Lord I don't want this to end I remember thinking that constantly the entire time And the whole microwave scene
Starting point is 00:39:56 I'm having going crawling through Like I actually I actually remember that. I watched, like I said, I've told him. I watched Jeff Haynes play that. Entire game. The entire game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I had to capture it and I was sick as a dog and he got to that place. And I actually was like, I've never played a middle-garde game. Emotional at that scene. Because it's the music and it's like he's crawling and they fall. And they're like, get up, get up. And he's like, uh, and what is the song that was playing over it? It was like, uh, I have the uncharted theme stuck in my head right now. Nope.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Drake comes in and helps. He's like, hey, what's up? I have a lasso. I don't know what song was playing at that point. It's really... It might have been here's to you. They're like... Whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That might have just been in the credits. But anyways... I'm gonna look at that. Go do it. That whole game was so special. In the end, the final fight with liquid where it kind of goes through... Right.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yeah. Oh, my God. It's just like, there's so many moments. And then the game ends. And it should have been. And then it didn't end. And it comes back. And it's just like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Like, it just kept giving you shit. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. I'm with you. No, this is what we always talk about, right? is the fact that Colin and I kept Metal Gear Solid 4 off the top 25 PlayStation 3. Thank you. Games lists over and over again.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Because... Get up, Snake, you fucker. That's what they said. Jesus, Carl. In the game, right? No, we kept it off because it isn't a game that plays to anybody, right? You need to be on that fanboy level. But in the same breath, that's why I thought I backed Jeff's 10 and gave a second opinion on it,
Starting point is 00:41:21 that this game was a masterpiece. It was something incredibly special. It did scratch the itch that I had had for years to know what happened at the end of two when, you know, Solid Snake and Radin go their separate ways. Like, what happens next? And we finally get those answers. We finally get an answer about Merrill. We finally get to see what the hell's going on. And so you're talking about your favorite games, right?
Starting point is 00:41:43 And so it's the best game or whatever. But you're talking about a favorite experience. Like, stem to stern, I loved that game. You know what I mean? It took me three nights to beat. And then that second night, I was told a story at 11 o'clock. I was so tired from being up so late tonight before that I'm like, I'm going to go to bed. and then you're like, you have to go,
Starting point is 00:41:56 we're going back to Shadow Moses. And he was like, and I was awake till 2, you know what I mean, playing all of Act 4 because that's what I love the most. And him falling asleep in the plane and then like waking up.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah, the pixelated face. Good Lord. The whole game is like totally designed to be a love letter to us, you know, from Kajima, from Konami. And that was awesome. I didn't mean to go back to it at some point
Starting point is 00:42:13 because Metal Gear Solid I love, a Metal Gear 2, I think, is my favorite one. Fantastic game. And then when I played Metal Gear Solid 3, I was like, there was like, there was like, I immediately didn't like.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah, it was like, I played for a couple hours. I don't know, no, no, no. And then when I played Metal Gear Salt 4, I was like, like, I played it for a few more hours. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I don't, there's something out right about this, and I never played it again. And I feel like maybe, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:34 I probably never will, but maybe one day you go back to it because Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear 2 are so special. In my mind, I don't think of EP, really. So I'm interested to see what's going on, Metal Gear 5, but I respect people that, like, four. It's just, I play the game for a few hours and I mean, this is not Metal Gear.
Starting point is 00:42:48 It doesn't feel like Metal Gear. Well, that was the thing I was like, that's one of the things I really didn't like about it. It was, Tim hit it that he never knew what to expect. It was a departure from Metal Gear in every one of those segments I remember being the motorcycle chase or the sneaking in the one I, you put on the Young Snake mask. And then the actual, you know, when you had the octo camouflage and you actually were fighting in the battlefield, like every segment felt incredibly different. And that could be disjointed, is a disjointed feeling, but as an experience, I liked what they were driving in. Yeah, I remember there was so many points, like, in addition to the ones I've named, like the motorcycle chase and the, the, the boss fight when I think you're in London
Starting point is 00:43:21 where you're in the tower and then the flying one's flying around and blowing the tower up and it's like bits and pieces are flying off yeah I remember specifically being there and be like I can't believe I'm actually playing this like I can't believe this is a video game I can't believe this is real and that this is like I'm playing this I'm not just watching it
Starting point is 00:43:40 and like it's very rare you get those feelings yeah you know and again it was my first game on last generation like I didn't I was really late to PS3 I got it the day. I got my PS3 with that game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:52 And man. Gun and middle grade. Yeah. It was fucking good. So damn good. All right. My last pick is Super Mario Galaxy 2. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I think it is the pinnacle of 3D Mario games. And I tried not to have multiple things from the same franchise. But 3D Mario, 2D Mario. Very different. Very different. And Mario Galaxy 2, my God, that is a 10 out of 10. Like that is, I think, out of all the ones I just said, it might be the best game. of my favorites
Starting point is 00:44:20 because it is just, it's flawless. It's so fucking good. It's so fucking fun. It's so creative. The, every level has some different twist and some different like design choice
Starting point is 00:44:29 and the gravity and all the stuff. It took everything that Mario Galaxy One made and it just gave a little bit more. And I think all the additions were great. Like Yoshi and it finally gave us Yoshi in 3D and it was fun. It was good. It wasn't just fucking juice bullshit from,
Starting point is 00:44:42 um, did you practice that? Oh yeah. I do it all time. I do that and, yeah, I'll respect that choice. That's really good, too.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yeah, Galaxy 2. And again, a lot of people will say Galaxy 1's better. And it's like, honestly, that's not even a hill that I would die on. Like, the two of them are so good. They're amazing games. To use a call-in parlance. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:02 That's me. You're making it better. That's me. But, man, those games are so good. I want an HD collection so bad. Because, like, those are some games that I actually really want to replay. And the funny thing is, you can go back and replay them. They're beautiful.
Starting point is 00:45:14 They're standard definition, but they're fucking beautiful. You still have to do this? Yeah, you do. But like, I don't think that the waggle was bad in that game. I don't, I don't think so either. It was intuitive. Yeah, that was one of the few games. I was like, this is fun.
Starting point is 00:45:27 It's not a big deal. It just, it just fucking worked. I want to give shots to Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, which I spent so many hours in. And thug. No, no, no, not thug. Portal, though. Like, man, that's a, that's a real experience game. Portal's a hard one, though, because it was not very long.
Starting point is 00:45:44 It was a great experience. Nothing needs to be one. It was beautiful. But it was, it really was one of those, like, in and out that was great that's awesome and I don't think that and when they did
Starting point is 00:45:53 oh no I have to go but I don't know it's hard it's hard to put that on the top list you know I mean I don't think it's hard it's like as an experience like man and like I would also say journey like as an experience
Starting point is 00:46:07 those things are I'd put on there for sure and I have to in some way mention guitar hero like I'm not sure which one I think if I had to choose it'd be three Van Heel oh No, not. Aerosmith?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Was there an Aerosmith? There was one. But Cotario 3, it's like, that was such a great game. And I had so much fun with it. Like, I would say it is one of my favorite games of all time. But I already went over five. But fuck rules. It seemed like getting a lot, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I have to peace out. I love you guys. You got a meeting. Bye. Not pee out. Like you're doing the game over Gregory's show every day on YouTube. com slash kind of funny. Belowing it and up.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I might be back. We'll see how long this goes. All right. See, have one. Thanks, Jenz. Bye. Bye. Nick Scarpeen, everybody.
Starting point is 00:46:46 It's a wrap on Nick. There's a gift bag for you out there. Which one of you guys wanted to go first? It doesn't matter to me. I'll save the best for last and go right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Good answer, Greg. People know that I love Calamoriardi. And if you didn't, now you'd do. So I'm going to do it in the opposite order of how everybody else is done. I'm going to give you my honorable mentions and then go 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Ooh, so you actually have a ranked list. Yeah, number one's no surprise. I talk about all the time. You know it. All right. So in my honorable mentions, I'm going to give. Patupon 3, an honorable mention.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Amazing game. And it's funny, I went back before we went out and did this. I went and did the old, looked at my IGN top 10. And I'd put Patupon 2 in there at the time and then claimed in the write-up that Pat-upon-3 is a better game,
Starting point is 00:47:35 but Pat-upon-2 is like my favorite. I have better memories about it. Now removed Pat-upon-3 all the way. Just because it had the culmination of the series. It had an online multiplayer. It had simplified everything. You knew how to level up your character.
Starting point is 00:47:47 It was great. And you just had to worry about one guy still about the beats. Do you remember Patapon, Tim? I do you remember it. Of course. Of course. We need another one.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I hear echoing in my brain. We need another one bad. You know, and I hate whenever I mentioned Patapon and somebody's like, and we need a loco roca. It's like, we can't get them both. We can't save them both and loco roca was not as good as Patapon, so we need to let that one go, everybody. If we can just let it die.
Starting point is 00:48:08 If we can agree on this, maybe one day the door will be open for Locke roca. But not now. You never played Patapon, right? No, no. It was just so ingenious, controlling the tribe with the beats. I think I might have. It's one of those, you know. KSP?
Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah, I think I might have. Kevin, can I have the pen? By the way, I'm listening to you. Yeah, I know you are. You know better than anybody that I have. He's going to throw it point at your face. You know better than anybody, Colin, that I got no rhythm. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:48:31 So the fact that I was able to play Padapon and be really good at Pat upon is another thing of how great this game is. It made you feel good about yourself. Exactly. Yeah. Memorize all the chain. Because you had to, you know, give commands via drum beats because you're this god or whatever. So you have to hit a, you have to play a song to get them to march, then play a song to get them to attack. You have to anticipate what the boss is going to do.
Starting point is 00:48:51 The best thing about it was another one of these games that was perfect for the PSP because it encouraged you to go back and grind. Replay the same bosses to get the bone to go then take the bone and bury the bone and just bury the bone over and over again. You got to bury the bone. As far as I understand, that's one of your mantras in life is buried the bone. That's right. But you do that, you know, get your level up and do this and get a rare material to do the...
Starting point is 00:49:13 It seems so cute and fun and there was so much under the hood. And it was a great game, kept you occupied all the time. So that's on my list as an honorable mention. I'm putting Mario Kart double dash on here. Fucking love. Yeah, Fran Mirabella, I can get the fuck out of here with that.
Starting point is 00:49:26 7.9. I'll never forget that as long as I live. I'll never ever forget that as long as I live. That was such a meltdown on the internet, the likes of which I don't think I might have ever seen before. Or again, and that was way before social media. Oh, sure, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:40 The meltdown, the level of forum and IRC meltdown because of that 7.9, I was like, holy shit. And it's like embedded in my brain. It was a bullshit move by one Fran Mirabal of the third. He can never be forgiven for it. As close as I am to Fran, I'll never be able to love him. It's because I know about the 7.9 and how great Mario Kart Double Dash was. You played it.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Oh, yeah. God, that was so much fun. Baby Park? You kidding me? No, baby fucking park. For sure. Now, I never do the thing, you ever do the thing where your friends would get squirley on a Saturday? You're playing Mario Kart Double Dash all day long, all Friday night long, and they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:50:13 what do you want to try actually doing the co-op? You play co-op, where when you ride on the back and when you actually jump. That's such bullshit. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah. But, yeah. Now, if there's that another GameCube co-op game or multiplayer game on your list, I'm going to be really disappointed.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I'm just telling you right now. You better know what it is, and I'm sure you know what it is. So I'm just going to leave it there. Okay. Another honorable mention to Luminous. Luminous on my PSP. Love that fucking game. I love it on everything.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I love it on Vita, too. I think the Vita version, obviously, probably the better version actually used Touchin'Cin. That's the one. Yeah. Great game. Everybody should hit it up. Lots of fun.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Here's something that's blasphemy, I know. but you know that I love Tetris I'm playing Tetris right now in the Vita the version that actually works now thank you very much Ultimate Testra or what is it Tetris Ultimate
Starting point is 00:50:55 Tetris Ultimate yeah by Soma Play published by Ubisoft Yes I was just wondering if Ultimate came before after but thank you for all the facts But the problem with playing Tetris now
Starting point is 00:51:06 is that I think Luminous is a better game but a better puzzle Down clearing game Better than Tetris I do I think it is And I think it might be that it's more approachable
Starting point is 00:51:14 You know what I mean Like the drop It's just Something about the fact that they fall in squares And then you can hit one edge of the square And send the other two down that I like so much Trying to like maneuver that and keep that all straight in your head And clear out all these things like
Starting point is 00:51:27 Did columns play like that on Genesis 2? To an extent, yeah, yeah, yeah It was a little bit different But yeah, yeah, yeah, it is very, very similar. Luminous, amazing, everybody should hit it up And then also my honorable mentions category And maybe one day some of these start getting in there Pung pushing thing around and putting Gone Home in there
Starting point is 00:51:42 Gone Home is still an experience whatever you want to say I know a lot of people on the internet like to hate on it, same side game. Oh, whatever. But I'm, I wanted, they're laughing all the way to the bank.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah, Steve Gainer, yeah, he keeps getting crazy haircuts with all that money he made off, gone home. Gone home, one of those games that, you know, I felt.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You know, I mean, you felt. I remember finishing that game as soon as the credits were walking in, hugging Christine, just because it's like such a special experience. Especially now it would probably be lessened, I think,
Starting point is 00:52:06 because everybody talks about it, right? But at the time, it was like, literally Marty had been like, I reviewed this game and it's really good. and then I remember McElroy.
Starting point is 00:52:15 He had tweeted about it too that if you haven't played it yet, like don't read my review, but here's the link, go play it first. I was like, all right, so one day I played it
Starting point is 00:52:21 and was just blown away. And it's like the paper boy of our time. It is the paper boy of our time. I have two questions, comments, two questions slash comments. Was the point in which you went and hugged Christine
Starting point is 00:52:29 after playing gone home? Was that the point in which you realize you might have been losing your grip on reality that a video game made you go hug your girlfriend? No, because it wasn't that I wasn't,
Starting point is 00:52:37 I didn't think I was that character. I hugged her because it's, I understand that, For granted how easy it is for us, Colin. Oh, I see. That's interesting. Okay. That was my thing.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Number two. It was such a bittersweet love story. Because I know it's not on your list. So, because I know you well enough to know it's not on your list. Sure. How dare you, sir, when you mentioned GameCube multiplayer games that we talked about so much, not put Mario Golf on there.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And you bring up double dash, double dash. Yeah. Now you bring up a good point. But Toadstool Tor? A fantastic game. Which was maybe one of the best GameCube games? No double dash, sir. Hard stop.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Just wanted to throw that out there. I appreciate your fervor and attention to detail. Now that you reminded me of that, I will put Mario Golf World Tour on the 3Ds in the honorable mention category. 82 hours into a fucking golf game on the goddamn DS. My God. Right? You're a crazy man. It's so good, though.
Starting point is 00:53:33 We have the tea times every day, and then they had the online working great. I was so excited about it. I played it for an hour, and I was like, that's how you are, though. You got to be caught off guard for games to like, you. For you to like games, I think. Yeah. That's your thing. That's true.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Anything you think you're going to like, you don't like. That's true. That's a good point. You're going to hate Mighty Number 9. No, I'm not. Apparently. I remember Skyroom you're going to love? Witcher you were going to love?
Starting point is 00:53:52 I love Witcher. I just think it's overrated. I think it's a great game. You've been talking about how you want to stop playing it. You just can't. Because I'm overwhelmed by it. Okay. Get you facts straight.
Starting point is 00:54:01 You didn't like Resistance 3? You didn't finish it? Oh, no, I didn't finish resistance 3. Number 5 on my top 5 list. Infamous. Infamous. Original. Good choice.
Starting point is 00:54:13 The first one. Yeah. Here's the thing, of course. As we go further on, Infamous 2, Infamous Second Sun, Infamous First Light, as you go up, the gameplay gets better. It gets smoother. It gets prettier. All of that.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I get that. I'm not arguing that. But Infamous One, the story was so good. In the merging of the gameplay at the time to the story was perfect. It was, you know, it made parkour fun. You could get up anywhere except chain link fences. You could run around, have a great time. It made sense.
Starting point is 00:54:39 It worked. You know what I mean? I love that cool character. I love Trish. I love Zika. I loved these people they made. And for me, the interesting thing was, I think it's rare with new IPs that come intellectual properties,
Starting point is 00:54:49 new games that come around that get announced, right? That you see a trailer. I remember seeing that trailer D3 the first time. I remember being told what the game was in me being like, this is the most Greg game there could possibly be. You know what I mean? It's a PlayStation exclusive and it's a superhero slash supervillain story, whatever you want to become, right?
Starting point is 00:55:06 It has these comic book cutscenes and I'm like, this sounds like the fucking perfect game for me, which means it will be dog shit. It means it will be garbage and it will fuck, like Superman 64. It's going to quickly go off the rails and be an embarrassment. But then to get it and have it not be that at all. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:22 To have it do so much stuff. It has its problems, of course, you know what I mean? But the traversal, the gameplay. You know, sucker punch in traversal, sucker punch in that moment-to-moment gameplay and using the powers and how cool you look. Few do it as well as they do, I think. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:36 I agree. And so then to have the comic book story, on there to have the choices where I wanted to go back and replay stuff and see how it all pans out the system. It was so good. So fucking good. You know what I mean? And like granted, with Second Sun, I wish they would have shed,
Starting point is 00:55:50 you know, evolved a few of their systems. I thought it was so weird. Then like Second Sun you show up and it's like take a photo somewhere here and there's a giant camera icon in the world floating there. It's like couldn't we've done this in a way that didn't make it clear that I'm in a video game? Like it looks so good. That wasn't the big problem. The big problem with Second Sun though was that, A, my expectations to that camera were way too high
Starting point is 00:56:06 and B, it didn't tie in at all of the original game. And the original two. I still think Infamous 2 is way better than Influence. Gameplay-wise, I agree. Infant's 2 is really, really fucking good. Sure. One of the best games of that year, for sure. But Infamous Second Sun was just disappointing.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Like, I remember being, I was like, and I agree with you, the gameplay is awesome, but I'm like, I don't really care about this character. I don't really like this character. And frankly, like, this world doesn't seem that big. The story doesn't really, like, why doesn't it tie in at all to the original story? other than like anecdotally. Right. It's like, fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Five years later, because I kept playing that game. I want to, you know, spoiler alert. You've had your time to play second son, everybody.
Starting point is 00:56:44 We're not doing the headtap. The fact, I waited until the very end for that game to tie away the Cole. And I thought for sure, Cole, you were going to fight Cole. Sure.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Like, and I was so, when the credits rolled, I was like, fuck, I can't believe, like, he's not in this game, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:59 And then first light came out and he's still not in it. And I'm like, why not? Like, this world isn't interesting enough for me to care about this. That's a big problem with Infimits going forward but I think we're not going to see
Starting point is 00:57:09 Cole made that world interesting and Cole's story made that world interesting but I digress. One of the things about it right is I think the call and spoiler. Cole made it interesting in the way that... Be it spoiler. Siri, spoilers.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Cole made interest in the way that he was almost so blank slated and so every man, right? Like with Delson we immediately get to the fact of like I start to lose connection with him because he's clearly like He's like skatery punk dude and he does like spray paint.
Starting point is 00:57:37 It's like he's a character and he's kind of a douchey character. He's like this duchy kid and he wants to accept his responsibilities. Whereas Cole's like, I'm a bike messenger. Oh shit, I got superpowers and everybody's pissed. I mean, I wouldn't be a bike messenger, but I saw the movie Premium Rush, of course, starring Joseph Gordon Levitt. Paper boy. Paper boy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I didn't actually see Premium Rush. Number four, uncharted three, Drake's Deception. The only 10 I gave on IG and ever. Stand by to this day. I still think we have to talk about this. If Uncharted 2 and 3 Flip places, it would be the same argument
Starting point is 00:58:07 on why people hate on Uncharted 3. I still say, I'll never forget, I was such a huge Uncharted 1 fan, right? Uncharted 2, we got, Roper was reviewing it, so I just got to play it.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And being at home, and beating it over a weekend, and he texted me, like, what did you think? And it's just, I was just like, it's uncharted and it's great. It's just,
Starting point is 00:58:25 it's literally beat for beat Uncharted 1. You know what I mean? It was like, all right, here's the setup of these guys. This guy's going to betray you. This is going to happen. Here's the,
Starting point is 00:58:34 supernatural twist. Everything's all. And it's just like, I felt so like, is this all it can be? Is this what it's going to be? Is it always, like, now that it's bad, like, you know what I mean? It's like Indiana Jones. Like, all have the same kind of formula, right?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Except for the obviously best one ever with Shilabuff. But they all have the similar, you know, formula of what's going to happen. And then to get to three and have it be like, we're telling this bromance. We're focusing on this relationship of Drake and Sully and not really getting bogged down and the stuff happening around them. We're going to play with his past, tell you these little things. Spoilers for the end of Uncharted 3
Starting point is 00:59:06 No Really? Are you gonna play it? Well, did you miss this? No. I'm calling Greg Lave. I was on when they announced the uncharted collection. Oh, you're gonna wait for the collection?
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah, I'm playing two and three. So don't, don't do it. I'm definitely, definitely this year playing those games. All right. At the end of Uncharted 3 and it's revealed he has a twin brother who is dead.
Starting point is 00:59:23 That's all made it. The fact that they went a different way at the end and everything. It was fresh and it was new and it was cool and it was pretty, it was fun. You know what I mean? Some people really don't have a stick up their ass
Starting point is 00:59:33 about uncharted 3 and it makes no sense to me. Like, that game was extraordinarily good. Here's what happened, and I've traced it back after having to fight this fight for years on internets, right? In the internets. On the internets. Sorry computers who have become sentient
Starting point is 00:59:46 or watching now. The problem comes back to the fact that, and I'm talking about strictly in the IGN ecosystem where I reviewed it and lived, right? Is that uncharted 2 didn't get a 10. If uncharted 2 had gotten a 10 and I'd give an uncharted 3 of 10, there wouldn't have been so much outcry.
Starting point is 01:00:01 But the fact that uncharted 2 got a 9-5 because Roper reviewed it and I gave Uncharted 3 a 10 that's where there's like this huge thing that people feel like Uncharted 2 got screwed that's the really big argument
Starting point is 01:00:11 I see all the time because it's never like Uncharted 3 is trash it's always like well if Uncharted 3 is 10 Uncharted 2 is a 15 and it's like well okay
Starting point is 01:00:19 like maybe I wouldn't have reviewed it that way or this way if I had done Uncharted 2 that's one perspective some people really don't like uncharted 3 and I like I get like the game
Starting point is 01:00:27 gunplay is a little weird in the game and I get that it's definitely weird to get used to I don't know why or what happened. I think they might have patched it to. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 01:00:36 They did take it back and do something. Some people really like, Uncharted 3 is not a good game. Or Uncharted 3 is a bad game. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Right. Like, I remember playing that game for the first time. I mean, like, this is extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Right, right. This is an extraordinary game. The set pieces in the boat, like the cruise ship. The airplane, like, everything. I can't, I can't. I'm fucking excited. The cruise ship's like the single. And that's not really a spoiler because I think they showed that at E3.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Well, that was the one problem is they showed so much of E3 of Uncharty 3. But like that moment, I was like, this is so awesome. Like, they really, I don't envy them to have to follow up on Charter. To keep having to do this shit. But also the big thing, too, and that's what we were saying, two and three, two and three being transfixed or whatever, or transposed rather, so that one comes before the other. Drake's fortune among thieves is a massive jump in terms of graphical fidelity
Starting point is 01:01:22 and the way the game runs and the technical fidelity. And then Uncharted and Uncharted three are pretty much the same. Yeah, that's a good point. So there's, three looks better than two, but it is not, it is a little bit better. it is not significantly better. And so I think that that's another thing that people are hung up on is that they expected another jump like that. And I'm like, another jump like that isn't possible on PlayStation 3.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I think you're going to see that with Drake's, or what is it, a thief's end? Yeah. We got to throw Drake's back there because I'm a little confused now. Drake's Thief Send. There we go. It's better. Drake's coffee. Anyway, I digress, Greg.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So do you know nothing about any of the games? I know nothing about them. I know this is a train sequence in two. Yeah. I envy you, man. To be able to go back and do that. I'm so excited. And again, like, I utterly love.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Uncharted 1. Like that game is definitely in my favorite games of all time. Sure. You love that game. For sure. I can't wait to see what
Starting point is 01:02:06 you're thinking at two and three. The thing about I'll never forget about three being totally overexposed and I won't spoil anything for you but I already mentioned a plane scene right
Starting point is 01:02:12 like they had shown that before and something happens in it that I'd never thought about in a subway commercial the night before we got review copies spoiled it and I was like are you fucking kidding me? You know what I mean like that?
Starting point is 01:02:24 I never even contemplated that so to go back and play it and have no idea like God Jesus Christ I'm excited. Number three. The legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time. My first Zelda,
Starting point is 01:02:34 so I think that's one of the reasons it's so special to me. I grew up a Sega kid, N64 is my first current in the moment Nintendo console. And I remember Michael Brian telling me over and over and over and over again to buy
Starting point is 01:02:44 Akkina time. And I'd go to his house and he was fighting Gannon and I'd be like, or Gannendendorf. And then him and Jay would argue about if it's Gannendorff or Gannendorf. Gannendorf. That's the voice he did.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Oh, Ganondorf. Yeah. And then I remember I went to a blockbuster that was going out of business and they had all their carts out and they had the gold of Zelda, and I didn't buy it. And I told O'Brien that, and he's like, you're such an idiot. And he finally gave me the strategy guide and the game.
Starting point is 01:03:07 He said, just go play it and try it. And sure enough, like, I remember it was, I was tell the story that it was the, he gave it to me the Friday or before our ACTs on Saturday, and I stayed up to like four in the morning to wake up at 10 to go take the ACTs or whatever. Did finally. It was totally worth it. An amazing game. And I remember feigning sick at high school to go home and beat it finally, because it was just so good.
Starting point is 01:03:27 You know what I mean? It was so beautiful in that world. Good Lord. The way it. played and the other story I was telling because it happened in high school right around this all this college prep stuff being in honors English and getting the assignment right of like all right we're going to do like sample college essays today or whatever and so they gave you a list of like 20 books and they're like choose one of them and go through and
Starting point is 01:03:48 compare like the time elements in them right and as far as like what it was like in the one period or the next period or whatever and I went through and I knew a couple of them but not super well so I did it about a hockey in a time because it was like an assignment whatever if I tank it or whatever. And the teacher gave me like a B plus on it. It was like, but read some books. You know what I mean? Like if this happens in a real college environment,
Starting point is 01:04:09 fucking talk about a book, not about the goddamn N64 game. Yeah. But that game was so special, man. When you come out, when you're running around and everything's so perfect in the past, when your little link and everything's so bright and cheerful
Starting point is 01:04:20 and you're having a great time in Hyrule, and then when you come out of the temple of time, right, as like grown-ass link, and there's fucking monster zombies everywhere and it's all disgusting and gross. It's like, what, I don't never forget. that what happened here how can I fix it like that ownership I felt over
Starting point is 01:04:33 high roll and then running through just the fields or more adept rolling through the fields before he got a pono because it was a little bit faster or so you told yourself number two it is super Mario world on SNES again
Starting point is 01:04:49 that was probably my first real that was like my first Mario console game I had a I had a Game Boy so I had the Mario Land yeah exactly and I had a lot of fun with that but like being a Sega kid. I played at a people's houses. Super Mario Brother is awesome. Great. I was talking about, yeah, I saw
Starting point is 01:05:04 I could, I think Super Mario 3 is the one with the yellow background in Tanuki Tail Mario or whatever. You know what I mean? Like I have those moments, but not like an ownership moment, but like Super Mario World for a summer, I spent me and Matt Noelle became best friends for a summer. And I'd go to his house
Starting point is 01:05:19 and I would just play over and over and over in his basement. And I, you know, beat it, did all this different stuff. And then finally went home and was like, well, fuck it. And I went unbought an S&S that was all like weathered and gross. And Super Mario World and sat there with Pinkerton on endless repeat with Mario Muted just playing Mario over and over and over again. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Because it was, that game blew my mind. That game is so good, man. I think Mario World is on another level compared to like even Mario 3 just because the physics feels so right. Like I feel like Mario World nailed the way Mario should move how I want to do at least. Like it just all feels right and having the spin jump and like the even the cape and all the shit like being able to nail.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah. Yep. A lot of people say it's cheap And a lot of people like Do prefer three And it's like again Three is an amazing game And it's hard for me to choose one over the other
Starting point is 01:06:06 But yeah world It comes down to How big that world is How many secrets there are How easy it is to actually understand How to find the secrets Like the secrets aren't bullshit Like you can find them
Starting point is 01:06:18 There are clues There are mostly There are you know It guides you that way And it's like Oh it's so good So good Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:25 And then my favorite game of all time Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker PSP, another great PSP game. It was just, it was, I, after Metal Gear 4, I think there was such a bad taste in some people's mouths, and then just me
Starting point is 01:06:40 having to defend why I like 4 or anything involving Metal Gear after that, because all it was, was talk of fucking nonsense, nonsensical cut scenes and this, that, and the other, and there wasn't enough game playing, da-da-da-da, to have Kajima be like, we're making another Metal Gear, it's going to be on P, it's, again, like,
Starting point is 01:06:56 they're designing a game for me. It's going to be the Sony exclusive on the PSP, which is like the channel I started in charge of, like, you know what I mean, I-China or whatever, to sit down and play that and have it not miss a step to add so much depth to what a Metal Gear game could be, how different it could be, what the new thing will be, the replayability of it, you know, the fact that I played 90-some hours of that game, you know what I mean? It was the one, it was the save I protected with my life. I remember on a plane ride where I was switching memory pro-stick duos, and I dropped it, and I panicked, and I eventually had to ask everyone in the row on this.
Starting point is 01:07:28 airplane to get up. I'm like, I have to lay down on the floor of the plane right now. You know what I mean? I can't risk I was landing or whatever and coming in and the car moving around. I found it and I was like geez, you know, I mean, and I started backing the card up like every other day or whatever to make sure it was protected at all times. But it was just like the cutscenes that were done in the comic art that looked awesome. You know what I mean? The voiceover, the acting, this story, the story. I always go back to how this is a story anyone could get in on. You know what I mean? and like this is you know you you don't have to know les enfants terribes and all about the lal lool. And you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:59 It's just like your mentor that you killed is back maybe. This guy is a tape recording of it. Go investigate. And that was it. And then you start recruiting people and building your own metal gear. And like that moment when it dawns on me that like, holy shit, I'm building outer heaven. This is, I'm not playing the prequel. I'm building the prequel.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And this, of course, before I knew five or you knew about five or anything like that or ground zeros. But it's like in that moment when you're like, I'm. making the history and I know how this plays out but I'm not tied to it in the way of like it's got to be this story that's beating me over the head. It was just so fucking good. You know what I mean? Yeah. Love it. That's why I'm so excited for five.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Colin. Take it so on. What are your top five favorite games of all time? There we go. Droving the glasses. I have quite a few honorable mentions. They have to be in this. I'm sorry. Final Fantasy 4 I want to give a shout out to. Very special
Starting point is 01:08:54 game, very emotional game, probably the first game that was truly emotional that I ever played. Memorable soundtrack, deep, mechanics, very long game, just a fantastic game. Probably the first JRP that came out in the United States that was superb.
Starting point is 01:09:10 The Dragon Quest games were good, or Dragon Warrior games were good, but this was a superb story driven game. Final Fantasy Tactics, I want to give a shout out to. Extraordinary game, very extraordinary game. Do you mind real quick? Yeah. I forgot. We have to give a shout out to the patrons. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:09:24 There you go. Thank you for all of your support. I'm so good at this guy. Well, that's one way of putting it. I'm bad at it. That's one way I'm putting it in too. I want to give a shout to Bioshock. The original Bioshock, I think, is an extraordinary game and absolutely extraordinary game.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Storytelling, ambience, atmosphere, the horror of that game. The water. Yes, of course, the water. Bioshocks, a must-play game. I understand if someone doesn't want to play tactics or Final Fantasy for, Bioshocks, I must play a game, I think. I want to give a shout out to civil play a game, I think. I want to shout out to civil.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Civilization 5, which was the first PC game that I really, really, really fell in love with. I used to play PC games when I was a kid, but I played Civilization 5 for more than I've almost played any other game, and I still play it. So it's a fantastic game. I want to give a shout to Castlevania 3, which we just said a Let's Play of. Castlevania 3 is a nice Gothic horror side-scrolling game way ahead of its time, I think. Super Mario Galaxy, I want to give a shout to. And the last of us, I want to give a shout to.
Starting point is 01:10:17 The last of us, I think, is the best game of the last 10 years. I think it's easily PlayStation 3's best game. easily the best game I played since I was at IGM probably and then I want to give a shout to Super Mario World Yeah, which you already talked about So number five for me would be Majora's Mask I've talked about it a lot so I won't belabor the point
Starting point is 01:10:38 But I think Majors Mask is a truly special Zelda game And I'm a huge Zelda fan or I was when I was a kid And I love the original Zelda and I really love the original I love Zelda too and I love Link to the past And Link's Awakening I think it was the first game where I was like It's fine fine game, and I don't really like it that much. And then, Aquarina of Time came out.
Starting point is 01:10:57 O'Cerea Time was a special game, and I feel like Majora's mask was the first Zelda game that had really come out since Zelda, too, that was truly different and resonated with me in a really different way. It was a suitable fitting swan song for Nintendo 64, and I don't think people really put them together that way, because it wasn't necessarily the last, you know, or last N-64 game. There's something called Conquers Bad Fur Day. And I remember getting, my last purchase on N-64 was Dr. Mario.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Oh, yeah. God damn. You were riding out to the end. Oh, definitely. I was a big Nintendo fan. I don't know. That's a loss on a lot of people. It was a fucking huge Nintendo fan when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Huge. But Majors Mask, the themes of Major's Mask fit perfectly with the end of N64 and almost told a story about N64's own troubles in a weird kind of way, where it was just like imminent imminent collapse of this platform and destruction and death
Starting point is 01:11:44 and trying things over and over again and so like that. I felt like Major's Mask is a special game, and there's a lot of revisionist history about how everyone loves Majors Mask now. But those of us who are, Those of us who were there at the time, remember that that game was not popular, with a lot of people that liked Okina of Time, even though I got great scores and did well.
Starting point is 01:11:58 But I always, always ride or die with that game. And Winwick, right? I thought those were both very special games that a lot of people gave shit to. Final Fantasy 6 would be number four for me. With the exception of another game on this list, I think the best Japanese role-playing game of all time, perhaps the mediest Japanese role-playing game of all time, too. Huge cast of characters is something like 20 characters you can play us.
Starting point is 01:12:18 You don't have to find them all, which I think is even cooler. You can like characters die, like Shadow on the floating continent. Shadow no! Which I think is really cool. So the game is split in half between the world of balance and the world of ruin. And in between, like, the middle part is when there's a thing called the floating continent. Emperor Gestal and Kefka and all these things are doing all this magic with Magitech armor and Esper's, which are magical beings, that they're, like, abusing basically and siphoning their magical energy out of.
Starting point is 01:12:45 And they create this floating continent. And there's a point where Shadow, who's the ninja character in the game, he has a dog named Interceptor. and he has like a soft spot for one of the little girls that is like a little girl that's in your party who's like a mage well she's an artist actually but you can let him die and that was one of the moments where like you have to get off the continent at a certain time and then you have to wait for him to come like so there's a timer and you have to get off the continent and it seems like the timer's running out but if you wait
Starting point is 01:13:10 shadow comes back and if you don't let him come back then he's dead and that was one of the first times and he's gone for the rest of the game that was one of the first times where I was like there's games have a deep ability to do very cool custom things with characters and with storytelling with non-iniarity and that was another cool thing about Final Fantasy 6 was there was an incredible amount of non-linearity when you got Setzer's airship,
Starting point is 01:13:32 sets her as a gambler and you meet him at the opera house in a very famous scene, one of the most famous scenes in any Final Fantasy game where Celis has to pretend that she's a woman named Maria who sets her is in love with and is going to kidnap. He kidnap Celis instead of Maria and then like you get the airship, blah. And once you're going to
Starting point is 01:13:50 at the airship, you can go anywhere in the world, just like you can of Final Fantasy 4 in other games, you start going back and realizing there's a little sidequest and people to talk to and all this kind of weird shit. And then when you get to the world of ruin, you start realizing that there's characters you can totally never run into at all. Um, Um, and Go Go and so like that. So Final Fantasy 6 is an extraordinary game, and it stands up to this day. And I haven't played it since it came out on Game Boy Advance when I was in college, but I know for a fact that game stands up. Like, there's no way nothing could ever happen where that game wouldn't stand up.
Starting point is 01:14:20 And I'm almost glad that they didn't do that whole 3D weird fucking treatment to it. They did with Final Fantasy 4 and Final Fantasy 3 because it doesn't need it. Although I'd be interested to see what they can do with remaking that game. So everyone should go play Final Fantasy 6 because it's fucking awesome. Number three, Castlevania Symphony of the Night. Perfect fusion of Arcady, side-scrolling gameplay and role-playing mechanics. We've talked a great deal about this game, so I'm not going to spend too much time on it. Symphony of the Night was a game that no one expected.
Starting point is 01:14:48 And if you think about it and from the perspective of someone in 1997, that is not what Castlevania was. And I remember buying it without knowing anything about it. I remember seeing, I got my PS1 in August of 97. I got Final Fantasy 7 in September, I think. Then Castlevania came out in October. And I played a game called Beyond the Beyond in between that, which was a fucking terrible role-playing game. We had it, I think. Yeah, we had a copy for the fuck game.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Yeah, we displayed it. And that game was fucking awful. Awful, awful Japanese role playing game. but I remember getting Castlevania I was a huge Castlevania fan growing up I had one two and three on NES Super Castlevania 4 You know bloodlines and all these kinds of games
Starting point is 01:15:25 So I picked it up I'm like oh obviously I'm gonna buy this And I brought it home and I'm like What the fuck is this? Like this is weird But immediately I loved it I was like this is nonlinear And this huge castle
Starting point is 01:15:34 And you're playing as Alcard Who's Dracula's half human son And I don't know That game is just That game took a lot of inspiration From Super Metroid But I think was way more important than Super Metroid
Starting point is 01:15:44 And in my opinion clearly better than Super Metroid. I don't like, that's one of the things that hangs me up with a lot of people where I respect everyone's opinions and stuff, but that particular argument always got in my crawks. I'm like, I don't, I played both games extensively, and I don't get how you can come to any other conclusion.
Starting point is 01:15:59 You know? Super Metroid would be one of my honorable mentions. I still haven't played Simpegian Night. You should play Simpeon Night and see what you think of it. You do it on your Vita. You could do it on your Vita. It's one of the reasons I got my Vita. Super, nah, it's not not taking anything away from Super Metroid. In terms of the way Super Metroid approached,
Starting point is 01:16:14 game development and game style and maps and all those kind of things extraordinarily important. Gameplay less so. Sprites too big, all these kinds. There's a lot of problems with that game. But Symphony of the Night nailed something so special that they just kept making it over and over again, and people just kept buying it.
Starting point is 01:16:29 And that was the crazy thing. And one of the things I didn't really realize until we had really sat down with ego is that the games were profitable and were making money that one of the major problems seemed to be that they couldn't afford to keep doing that pixel art. You know, like the beautiful stained glass windows and the castle vistas and the, Mista's and these beautifully animated enemies with many frames of animations. Like it's very laborious and they can't do it.
Starting point is 01:16:49 That's why even bloodstained, which is a Castlevania Symphony Night's successor, is not pixel art because it's too fucking expensive. So it's funny to think that those games are so extraordinarily good that they were basically releasing them like Madden and people were just fucking eating them out. And so Circle the Moon and all these games. I mean, Arisara, I mean, oh my God, these are excellent games.
Starting point is 01:17:08 It all start with Symphony the Night. I think that's a really, really important game for people to play. Number two, Wild Arms. Wild Arms was a very early PS1 game. Not very early, early 97. Came out six months or so before Final Fantasy 7, and I think really got overshadowed because the anticipation for Final Fantasy 7 was so high.
Starting point is 01:17:27 You know, when you're spending $50 on the game in 1997, it's a lot of money today, but there's a lot of money back then, and you're going to wait until you get the sure thing. But Wild Arms is a very concentrated and cohesive and focused role-playing game, and I don't really think that there's anything quite like it with with its story and especially revolving on Rudy
Starting point is 01:17:47 and I won't spoil it for anyone but Rudy Rough Knight is the main character and is really a deep character but even the people around him Jack and Cecilia Jack being kind of like Indiana Jones type character and Cecilia being like a major
Starting point is 01:17:58 or basically his two companions and Jack's rat or a mouse called Handpan who used to solve puzzles Media Vision made the game and they've only made really Wild Arms games and they still exist and I feel like that's maybe the single most criminally underplayed
Starting point is 01:18:14 and underrated game of all time. And I really wish that everyone would just go play it and see what's what's so special about it. It's very hard. It's one of those games where I remember when I played it, my brother was one of the recommended to me and he's like, you will not be able to beat this game without a strategy god. You just have to get a strategy on. And he was right.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Like it's just, it's very obtuse in some ways, but it's the story and the music and that the intro, the animated intro, is one of the coolest intros ever in any game. Very emotional. Very very emotional game. Wild Arms 2 is a good game too, but Wild Arm's one. One of the best, I think, of all time. And the number one would be Mega Man 3. We've talked about why Mega Man's special, and again, we won't have to go too deep. He has an arm cannon. He has an arm cannon. That's
Starting point is 01:18:54 special. But Mega Man 3 is always been funny to me because I think that's Inafune's least favorite game in the core series. But it's a lot of people's favorite. A lot of people like Mega Man too, but I think a lot of very nerdy Mega Man fans like three. It introduces Rush and introduces Protoman, which I think are preferably important things, but not really. I think it's more the, again, there's something about
Starting point is 01:19:14 Mega Man 3 that is emotional and really weird and the music's perfect and the design of the stages is perfect and the robot masters are perfect.
Starting point is 01:19:26 And the game's long, it's the longest Mega Man game which I really like as well. And you go back and you fight the bosses for Mega Man too, which I think is so cool like Wiley like programs
Starting point is 01:19:33 this one robot that can use all the skills of all the other robots. And I think that that's just special game. And I think it's I think Mega Man 3, much like Mario 1 and a few other games, is a masterclass in how to make a game, and how to program gameplay,
Starting point is 01:19:51 and how to make a game feel, and how to reward the player, but also punish the player. The balance is pretty perfect in that game. I would go as far as to say there's nothing wrong with Mega Man 3. It's the most perfect game I've ever played. And that's why I think it's, no game is 100% perfect,
Starting point is 01:20:09 but if you were asking me, like, what's the, what's a bad thing about Mega Man 3? I have no idea. And I've beaten that game a hundred times, more than that. You know, so I would, I would, you know, put Mega Man 3 at the top of the list. And I don't think any game will ever, ever beat that. And it's not nostalgic because I still go back and play it all the time. I play it.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Since we started crying funny, I've probably beaten it like 10 times. So it's like, it's not a thing where it's like, where I have like, you know, roast into glasses on. No, Mega Man 3 really is a special game. And I think that people are going to see that when that legacy collection comes out on PS4 and Xbox one. Because that'll be a lot of people's first exposure to the blue bomb in his classic form,
Starting point is 01:20:42 especially those six games, which are so important. Because I think that Mega Man love today is a little weird. Mega Man never sold well. That's like one of the things Greg and I have talked about this. Like Mega Man as a franchise has sold 30 or 35 million copies.
Starting point is 01:20:58 It's not a lot of copies. You know, when you put that in the perspective, uncharted, three uncharted games sold 22 million copies. And there's literally over 100 Mega Magnums. So it's never, been a game that's sold extraordinarily well all the classic ones that sold like a million copies but um
Starting point is 01:21:15 it's just one of those games that's that everyone that makes these side scrollers in these old school games today like points back to that series and two and three and take a lot of inspiration from it. Look at shovel knight. You know what I mean? And uh, shovel night takes gameplay inspiration from the likes of Zelda 2 and
Starting point is 01:21:32 Ninja Gaden and so like that but the knights are robot masters. The design of the characters are all Mega Man characters. So it's important in an aesthetic way It's important in the gameplay way It's certainly important in a sonic way And I mean it's not the hedgehog
Starting point is 01:21:47 I mean music So yeah Mega Man 3 And the best song Best Mega Man song of all time Everyone says is Wiley Stage 1 And Mega Man 2 wrong The best song is Wiley Stage 1 And Megam 3
Starting point is 01:22:00 And you guys should go listen to that song And the other shout out song Mega Man 10 Wiley Stage 1 Another good emotional song So that's my list but it's hard to do these kinds of lists because I want to give a shout to Catherine I want to give a shout out to SpectOps
Starting point is 01:22:14 I want to give a shout out to Act Razor I mean there's a bunch of games I think Nottiemer of course But that's the cohesive five That I think would encapsulate Like my own love of games Certainly my love of Nintendo and old Nintendo games And not even first party games
Starting point is 01:22:27 Which is games that ran on that hardware And my deep and unabiding love for all things NESS, NESN 64 and GameCube Will never ever ever ever die You know hence my love of Galaxy or, you know, you don't get, I don't really like it, but I was thinking about the game. I like it fine, not certainly in this conversation,
Starting point is 01:22:44 but I was thinking about the game, Endless Ocean the other day. And how, that's a Wii game that I loved. And at the time, then I went back and played it again. I was like, oh, did you ever play Endless Ocean? Yeah, it didn't. It wasn't my thing. It was like you just went and just swam around.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah. Just weird experience. Nintendo had those kinds of experiences. Yeah, they definitely are, but they had those kinds of experiences that are always going to be special. They, they're not quite as special anymore, I don't think, but, um, those games will always be special.
Starting point is 01:23:10 So that's why my list is very loaded with Nintendo games or games that played on Nintendo hardware as well. Yeah. It's always fun talking about this too because you talk about your favorite games and it's like it's such a fluid thing that I think changes over time.
Starting point is 01:23:22 And like hearing you guys do your list, like oh fuck I forgot about all this stuff that you bring up infamous and the way you described about seeing the trailer and be like oh fuck I'm so ready for this. Prince of Persia sans a time. That for me was a game where it's like from the moment I first heard about it
Starting point is 01:23:34 I was like oh man I'm going to love this. I remembered playing the first Prince of Persia with Kevin back on some fucking computer and being like really into it. I never quite clicked with me. I never really understood how to play it. But I remember really liking the aesthetic and like the idea of it. So to get like an actual realized 3D game, like adding in the running on the walls and the acrobatics and like the battle system looking really fun. And the puzzle aspect in addition to the time.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yep. Oh my God. And it was exactly what I wanted to be. So like shout to that. Shout to Fire Emblem. nine. Like, that one was really
Starting point is 01:24:10 got on the GameCube. And it's funny because I feel like a lot of the games that I say, I hear Colin talk about different versions of those. So Fall Fancy Tactics,
Starting point is 01:24:21 I never played. And you would swear over that over Fire. Castlevania Symphony Night, you would swear over it over Super Metroid. It's like, I need to give those some tries
Starting point is 01:24:29 because... Oh, I think I'd be shocked if you, I would be shocked, I'm not sure what I'd be more shocked about. I think that tactics is so clearly
Starting point is 01:24:37 superior to fire emblem that I'd be shocked if you don't see that about how deep and I really want you to play that game I'm gonna do you have a PSP still that works I do I gotta go into my box and dig up war of the line which is the perfect which is the perfect version of that game but I'd be shocked if you played symphony the night and didn't understand why that you know
Starting point is 01:24:54 it's all opinion I'm not saying that my opinion's right or someone else's opinion is wrong in my mind those games are so following exact is the best term based strategy game ever that I've ever played by far and if it was going to be a second place you know tactics over which is almost the same fucking thing You know, then you get the tactics advanced and all these other games. And with Symphony in the Night,
Starting point is 01:25:13 I mean, that's like the pinnacle almost of video games, you know, in my mind. So, I mean, you really should get down on those games. I bet you'd love them. I'm so positive that you would love it. All right, so guys, earlier today, we asked Twitter what you guys' favorite game is we're going to say that for a topic on next week.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Okay. Because this was fun. And this went a lot longer than I thought I was going to. So I'm happy with that. You did good. We did damn good. We do that here. Thank you so much for being awesome,
Starting point is 01:25:37 watching all the stuff. Leave your comments below what your favorite game is. What do you think about our list and all that stuff? Until next time.

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