Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - UPDATED Video Game Predictions and Bets - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 18

Episode Date: April 30, 2020

Tim, Greg, Blessing, and Imran reflect on the predictions they made a few months ago to see how crazy they were. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up guys? Welcome back to the kind of funny games cast. As always, I am the pro gamer Tim Getty's joined by one of the coolest dudes in video games, Greg Miller. What's up, Greg Miller? Sorry, a question from the peanut gallery. Hey, how are you? Thanks, I'm in the show. Why? I know you're wearing your full sail armada thing.

They gave us at the Hall of Fame last year. Why are you suddenly wearing it and calling yourself a pro gamer? The real answer is I like to match my lights to my outfits and I don't have any orange outfits and the orange light looks dope. And I saw this. You know what? I'm pro gaming today and I'm feeling good. Although I'm not really feeling good. Also, of course, we have blessing at I.O.A. Junior, the new face video games and of course,

the former and former Imran Khan joining us as well. Here's my, I got some beef, Greg. I got some beef with the pro gamer shirts. You're taking the Sinatra News hard. I am taking the Sinatra News very hard. But these look like they are made to allow you to breathe, to allow you to kind of like, you know, be in there doing all the like clicking heads and stuff. stuff that Andy does.

Yeah, right. He's ripping them shreds. This thing is a little sweat box. Sure. Like, it's just insulating the heat. Today I would breathe better than it does. I was working out in my SF shock one today. And I think that's part of the thing is,

they have that weird shine to them. They have that athletic shine, that Jersey shine. You know what I mean? They're meant to hold it in. Because this is a sports son. You're supposed to sweat. There are kids supposed to get energy inside. I feel like jerseys usually breathe, though.

Yeah, there's all the whole. jerseys do you think I've worn and how many did I not wear in fifth grade with a t-shirt underneath it because I was horrified by my body. All right. I don't know what a jersey is supposed to fucking do, sir. All right. I'm wearing like soccer jerks. I feel like the soccer jerseys I've worn.

I've been able to like, you know, feel free and feel like I got air flowing through me because you're going to be doing a lot of running. Those are soccer jersey. Maybe not. These are, they're going to Walmart. They're sitting here. They're the hot lights just beaming down on them, the thousands and thousands of fans around

them, breathing. You'll bless heat. There's already, I don't need more heat. I want less heat. Discivate. Maybe the stadiums are cold because there's all the computers in the stadiums. They don't want the computers to overheat. And so they had to make the jerseys like sweaters.

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We did two prediction topics, which was just in January. Is it just weird? Does that feel like that was last year that we did these prediction topics? It was a different world. It was a really different world. And I feel like it would be in any other year, it'd be silly for us to go back and look at our predictions that we made in January in April. But this whole situation we're going through.

I feel like there's a lot of stuff we might want to take back. We might want to change. So over on Reddit.com slash R slash kind of funny. Our boy, C. Anon, went through. And this is the same dude. He's always getting our predictions for game awards and all stuff, keeping track of who wins and all that stuff. He went through the two episodes.

and because we did two predictions episodes. One was just general gaming in 2020. And one of them was specifically about the next-gen console launches. So he went through and took notes on our predictions, but he also took notes on like boiling down the like responses from, from everybody that added to it. And some of them are real, real damn good. So what we're going to do today is go through those predictions,

see where we're still at with them. And if we want to throw in new predictions or like amendments against along the way, feel free. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to hold anybody back. That's not a pro gamer move. A pro game remove is letting people run free and click on whatever they want. That's who you are. Clicking heads. I don't like the clicking heads. I don't either. It doesn't make any sense. Aty stupid.

Is you're clicking ahead literally? Like when you're playing Call of Duty to get a head shot, you're clicking on a head. So you think when you're pulling the trigger on your gun in the game, you're eliminating the action that you are performing as the character on the gun and thinking more of as kids in the hall, like I crush your head. That's what you're coming up with. Well, I'm thinking of it as when you, when you're playing a FP, and I know you never use a PC to game, Greg.

When you're playing a first person shooter on a computer, you're using a mouse, right? And like the act of getting a headshot that involves you then moving the mouse to the head of an enemy character and then clicking. Yeah. And so you're clicking heads as a first-person shooter player. Got it. Has anyone in the history of first-person shoot?

Can we get fatality on the phone? Has anyone ever said that? I bet you'd get fatality on the phone. I bet if you'd call it. He's probably not doing anything right now. It would be pretty easy. I can call courage if you want. Let's start off with

Kind of Funnies' 2020 video game predictions from Gamescast, episode three. Greg Miller says before the end of the year, we'll have a teaser trailer for the next uncharted game. It will be from Sony San Diego in conjunction with Noddy Dog. It will not feature Drake. There'll be a new main character, and there will be one or two familiar faces in the trailer.

do you stand by this message? Damn, I don't like this topic. I don't like this game's casting. You're supposed to make these predictions and never think about them again unless they come true. Unless they come true. You went on to clarify, Greg. Please, give me. The big character doesn't mean Chloe or Nadine, although we will see them.

Yeah. Not an idea. I like that. And it's not. It's a spoil. for and charted four it's not d end of uncharted for spoiler is what was which is such a great thing not these d um but yeah we might see her as the tech person oh do i stand by this the problem i run into is where would this be where would this go you know what i mean game awards is the only

thing is game war is like we know game war it's like we know game war is to be you know you understand question keep over that let's i feel like that's a that's a good thing to talk about like do we think the game awards by then by December that will be in a place that that resembles what it has in years past? I think it happens 100% whether or not it'll be like a physical event. I think is the question. The thing is I can see them easily pivoting game awards to being a digital event. I think the thing then is you lose out on, they do ticket sales for game awards, right? That's how you, that's how you enter, right?

Every five minute you can't invite. So. Oh, so. Okay, well, maybe that maybe that becomes. I mean, there's an audience section, but yeah, I forget if they pay or if those are free tickets. Like there's a section for regular people. I think that gets complicated, but I think with ad deals and sponsorships and all these other things, you can justify still doing a game awards

kind of thing, but have it be like, remember the was it the VGXs, the Joel McHale year, you have it be more like that and have it be like a host that is sitting on a couch that is like whether or not or not is at home, like, I don't, I'm not going to make predictions

about how like working home is going to go by that time. But I think, I don't think you have it be with a large audience. I think you find some workaround where it is like more of an intimate event, whether it is like a few people in a room

that are presenting and doing all these things or if it is like a fully digital event, I think you can easily do game. I think you can make Game Awards happen this year. I think Jeff Kiel will want to. I think there's no way Jeff's not going to have a game. It's going to happen. But my question is,

do you guys think that it will have announcements of the magnitude that we're used to? I do. I think so. I think people are planning around that. Like marketing plans, as evidenced by today, Ubisoft still going ahead with the Assassin's Tweed announcement. Like, they still have to go. Games still have to be announced. I think people are assuming that Game Awards will still be around in December.

And assuming Gamescom goes well, which is another Keeley digital joint, I bet that he's going to have the same template for Game Awards is here. So Immon says, could it be released in conjunction with the film? not a tie-in, but like Ratchin and Clank did. I'm not so optimistic that film is coming out still. Hey, that film got pushed up now. Did it? It got pushed back, Hela, and then it got moved up, and then Spider-Man 3 got pushed back to take its spot.

Man, Tom Holland, man, doing things. What a cutie, you know? Yeah. Ben-in-M-Rum says, what about Sony Bend? Greg says they'll do Days Gone, too. They don't want to work on someone else's IP again. Very true. That's a smart thing for Greg.

That's a good thing that I could have done. Do you think Days Gone 2 was happening? Yeah, I do. I mean, it was sales successful, but like it's also one of those things like you talked to so many people. They're like, yeah, that game made a lot of money, but no one ever talks about critical response to it, which is something they love talking about usually. Yeah, but I think that that's, it's very much a dollars and cents games to them or game to them where, yeah, it sold well. It has an audience behind it. You know, they just celebrated it a year and they put out all those stats.

They've supported that the entire way. like I think that they had plans for more and I think they probably their buttholes tightened when the review scores dropped and everybody's like ooh I don't know if I really like this and then the crowd reaction to it I think and that's the thing too with days gone I do believe that if Sony Ben gets another crack at it which I think they will that they'll take that critical feedback and have a different game at launch that will appease both both parties I mean critical and commercial and so yeah I definitely think that's what they're working on now and I think they're going to be on I think we got a lot faster than Days Gone one was since there was So much hullabaloo on getting that game actually started and launched and whatever might have been a project beforehand. Sticking with a PlayStation here. Imron says, God of War II will get teased this year. It will not be called God of War II. Corey Barlog will not be the one directing it. They bring back stick.

So I remember saying this. I remember like people disagreeing about Corey Barlog not directing. But then we ended up like looking it up later. And he made some like statements. It didn't, it wasn't directly saying. I'm not going to direct this game, but more like, yeah, it makes sense to hand it off kind of thing. So I think I'm going to take credit for that being mostly right. At least as far as...

He's directing that game. I think he, like the clarification to the bottom is writing the script but not directing, I still think that's true. But I don't think, I bet they bring someone else in as a director. I don't know that it'll be Stig because it does sound like, respawn is doing a different kind of thing right now. and now he's kind of running that while Zampella is on Dice, LA. But I do think they will bring somebody of note in

for whatever the next God of War sequel is called. Blessing says Horizon Zero Dawn 2 is revealed this year for PlayStation 5, but not for launch, dated 2021. Instead, there will be a NAC 3 game at launch. I stand by all of it. His reasoning being, there needs to be a child-friendly game at launch. I stand by all of it. You won't back down, kids.

I won't back down. I think the only, and I don't know if I'm going to make this amendment or not, but I still, there's been news this week, or was it last week, there's news recently about Horizon Zero Dawn and how it's going to be reportedly a trilogy and how like they had thoughts of doing like an in-between title between one and two. I could, I could see there being a Horizon Zero Dawn spinoff, like, maybe like a smaller spinoff title still happening. And so maybe, you know, maybe that's a thing. But we'll see. I think we'll, I think we'll see Horizon Zero Dawn this year, though,

like reveal in some form. That's why I'm still sitting on. I don't think they would release that game on PC if they weren't planning to release a sequel in a relatively near future. Yeah, so play a Citi 5 launch game this holiday. Take it to the bank.

Blessings wrong. I would bet launch game, if not for just the way the world is going right now and I'm not sure launch... I'm not sure there's going to be a huge launch game on PS5 this year. But I would bet it's that infamous spot of launch window,

but months after. Yeah. I still, I still stand by, I think my argument when we did this episode that I still stand by is that there's not really

historically been like a big PlayStation launch title that they've launched with any of their consoles. Like usually you'll see the bigger titles come through later. And like I think, I think all they really need to do

to sell people on PS5 in terms of games is to come out and say, hey, this is what you need to look forward to you. Like this is where you're going to get in 2021. God of War II exists, whether they call it God of War,

Ragnarok or Val Hollow, or whatever it is. I ain't calling it Valhalla no more. But yeah, you got a war to look forward to and then like whatever other PlayStation game that's coming, Spider-Man, right? You have these games to look forward to. You might not have them at launch,

but at least you have NAC 3. Yeah, I mean, honestly, you have NAC 3. Honestly, like, is there really a point to putting a very huge launch game out on a PS5 that they've already said, or not said, but the reports have come out that it's not going to be huge

in terms of production numbers. Like, if you can only, only sell a million copies, assuming every single person who buys a PS5 buys Horizon Zero Dawn 2. That's five or six million right there. That's one million copies until like the next year, which is a slow, you might as well release it like in Marchish or Aprilish later. Hmm.

I want to tell you, I got out of it. I wheezzled out of it and I was going to let it go, but now I'm going to step back up to the plate and tell you that I don't, I'm rescinding. I don't think my uncharted thing will come true this year. Yeah. I think too much has changed. Too much has changed. Too much has changed.

We are in uncharted territories. That's a pro gamer move. Yeah, pro game remove here. Tim Getty says PlayStation is going to acquire studio and it will be Sega. Wait, did you really say that? Yeah, I mean, I was fucking like, you know, going crazy there. Blessing everyone say fucking crazy. Everyone says Sega's bigger than people think.

And Tim says, not going all in, make it official. Like with it in Sawyer. I still, I do think that Sega will be purchased at some point. I don't think it's going to be this year. but I do think that one of the big guys will have them at the end of the day. I think maybe somebody will invest heavily in Sega. I think purchase is

a bridge too far. We'll see you guys. Yeah, I can't imagine fucking crazy. Hey, real quick, I want to confirm that they did sell tickets for Game Awards. Okay. They did? Okay. Yeah, I'm looking, I was on, I

obviously the site's down so I can't go there anymore, but they still have a buy ticket button on the Game Wars thing and then I'm looking at a press release here, which is tickets are on sale now click on it ticket pack a VIP package includes orchestra seats in the first 15 rows special pre so it was like a package but I do think that was the only way outside of maybe going somewhere you know getting it to like whoever yeah I wonder how much that does for them revenue wise yeah probably not as much as like the advertising slots and like no definitely not I mean well that's the thing is I remember them having issues filling it so that's why I thought

that it must have been free but that's it's money where you can but then yes seat fillers but like a seat filler doesn't like it isn't a fun job. I guess it kind of is, but it also is like, you know, you sit in when fucking I go to the bathroom or something and then you get pushed out. Yeah.

Moving on to round two. Greg says WB Montreal's Batman game is Game Informer's March cover. We will see hands off demo at GDC. See, it could have happened. Don't step. This all could have been real. And it comes out in October.

Clarification will be current gen. Next gen will be reserved for rock steady. You say it's going to copy the origin in night schedules. I don't stand by this predicament. Do you stand by any element of October? I think, I mean, well, what was the rumor? Remember, there was the thing that got circulated around. Yeah, they're going to have a conference.

They're going to do an E3 conference. It would reveal the Batman game and also reveal Roxanne's next game. They didn't, I think it was Shrier. But, like, you didn't say they would be the same thing. But, yeah, and I think, next gen. I think Harry Potter was looped in. that too. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Well, then yeah, the game in former March cover definitely didn't happen. We didn't see anything about GDC even before GDC exploded. So I think that wasn't going

to happen unless they were already planning on pulling out. And at that point, I can't see how you'd launch this game in October. Even if you were planning for an E3 presentation, I don't think you, Batman is such a huge beat. You wouldn't want to blow your wad on that, right? You wouldn't want to be like, here he is in June, surrounded by all these other games. And he's going to be. be out in October. It just seems crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks, man. Obviously, that game exists. I just question right now, like, how long they hold off on it.

Yeah. That WB conference, was that confirmed or was that always just rumored? It was rumored, but it was a report from Shrier, I think. Yeah. And you can take it to the bank who Jason says it. Emron says, this year we get either Master Chief or Sora and Smash Brothers, at least announced. The Fighter Pass will have a big hitter. And I say, I expect both. all of that has changed simply because the Sakurai has said

that like Smash is not being worked on right now yeah they're totally they weren't able to work from home or whatever so everything's being pushed back I still think we're gonna get them though I yeah I expect like if we they said originally the season pass would extend from I think 2020

end of 2021 I think now like that was just a in case things get pushed back sort of thing now things are definitely being pushed back definitely bet we see whatever heavy hitter is there is going to be closer to the end of 2021 than not. Yeah, the heavy hitter thing, it's interesting. I will see because we have an un-armed character. We don't even know which one, but an arms character is coming in June.

Yeah. And even that I think is going to get pushed. I expect that I'll get pushed. They usually start these things off with a banger because like remember persona or the percent of five announcement on Switch of like, hey, here's Joker. Buy this season passed right now. And this one is like, I don't know, an arms character is coming in June. Yeah, guess which one.

So we'll see. Blessing. Talking about that arms character, though. Do you think that then means arms two is happening soon? No. Because like, why would you do an arms character? Spash has never really given too much of a shit about that type of stuff actually lining up. But Nintendo chooses the character.

Now, oh, that is the other thing, is that this, this round, Nintendo is the ones choosing everything. They chose them for first try as well, but like, yeah. In the fact that Arms is a game that came out and kind of just like didn't do anything. Like, even if we fit, it was like, all right. I'm with you, don't get me wrong, but I still hear people talk about, hey, arms had a good time with arms.

I hear that all the time. People didn't talk about Arms past like the first like month or two though, right? Sure. Because like Sputon came out right after, which is the, yeah. They also just didn't set the world on fire. I think if they did make an arms too, it would because they want to invest in that series. and make it be a game that sells really well. We will get at arms too at some point.

Yes, I think so as well. I think that's why you put them in, right? You're trying to establish that the arms characters are Nintendo. They are. Part of the lineage now, they are going to be around. Yeah. Yeah, to me, that's justification. Because I was going to say, even like, We Fit Trainer,

like, We Fit still sold a lot, even though, like, that's a game that they hadn't put out for years by the time they put out, We Fit Trainer in Smash. Like, Arms just seems out of left field in some sort of way that I think you guys. A better example might be like Shulk and Smashwether. The original ZenoBlade didn't sell that well, even though it was like a late generation Wii game,

but the Wii would say calls out the 100 million users. But you put Shulk and Smash Others in Zaday 2 million copies. So that's why they're releasing another version of Zadblade because like, oh, well, this character got a smash bump, I guess. Yeah, that's a smash boost. Yeah, so they think they got shirtless, man. It changed everything. He's really feeling.

He's really feeling it. Um, let's see. But Blessing says at Bethesda's E3 press conference, we get a breakdown of Starfield, showing gameplay systems and how the game will follow and exceed the foundation set by follow and elder scrolls. At the end, it's dated for 2021 for next gen. Um, yeah. How you feel now, bless?

I want to, can I like cut and paste this prediction the next year? That's how I feel. Has Bethesda said they're not doing, uh, things? Yeah, right. Has it? Oh, yeah. they, well, yeah. I mean, I guess like the main reason they have it these days is to keep that

like they want to keep that slot, which is like, their years where Bethes's Ether's Ether's conferences are very light. And they're like, nobody really knows why they're there, including Bethesda. But I think it's good for them to be able to skip this year and come back next year harder than thought, like harder than before. Yeah, there was a new story that was, they're not hosting a digital E3 showcase. I forgot about that. What was it?

Two years ago at Game Awards, they had that. Was it Susan Sarandon video about single year games? No, it was Linda Carter, Wonder Woman, who's like, I believe it is she's married to the president of Xenamax or of the third one of them. I can't keep that part straight for you. I think like six months later, they announced fall out 76. Yeah, no, totally.

That was when all their games suddenly turned that corner. It's my not who Linda Carter's married, too. I say, Breath of Wild 2 will be 20-20, playable Zelda, and the game's title will be Breath of the Wild. Wait, hold on. Yeah, we'll be either Breath of the Wild 2 something or Breath of the Something. She's married to Robert A. Altman, who is the chairman and CEO of Xenamax Media. There you go.

I stand by all of this with the exception of 2020. Yeah, I think if it were ever set for 2020, it is now not set for 2020. Yeah, I think that it was. I think that it's going to be tied with the Switch Pro of some sort. And I just think that all of that together, it's not happening this year. Zelda's 35th anniversary should be 2022, I think. So I don't think they'll hold off on that game for that long. But I wouldn't be shocked if they start seating the ground a little bit earlier than that.

Let's see. Greg says, at the Game Awards 2020, the Rock appears. It announces the first game developed and produced by 7 bucks production. I'm still in. Let's go, Rock. Come on, DJ, let's do it. You got your to key off. You got the,

you're back with another season of that show with Alex Goldenboy Mendez. You got this. You then clarified, I'm not saying he'll be in the game. He will be. I stayed by all of it. That's a fucking lock.

Take it to the bank. It's time. Hope it's in front of a live audience because you need that pop. I would like the Rock to announce his own Fast and Fruidious game, like a separate game from Crossroads. Just come on himself.

God. I just want to hear about Crossroads. I didn't say that that game, they still haven't even like officially delayed it. What if it just comes out? Is it like supposed to be the end of the month or whatever? It's supposed to be May, yeah. Let's see.

Amron says, Final Fantasy 16 will be announced this year. I don't hold of that anymore. Yeah. I think that like the, obviously the coronavirus delays, but also FSA7 did so well. They don't need to like leap to FF16 right now. They can wait a little bit and still get people excited when that does actually get revealed.

When do you think it's going to be revealed? Because I feel like we're now put in a weird place where, as we've talked about in the episode that we're talking about now, Final Fantasy 16 is by far the longest they've ever went, not announcing a core Final Fantasy game. But now that Seven did so well, and it's in such a unique place where we know there's other parts coming, I feel like there's a pressure to announce it sooner than later because it's still going to take a while to make. So here's my theory is that I bet 16 is not going to be a single-release single-player title. I don't think it'll be MMO or anything,

but I think it's going to be kind of more destiny-ish. And I think if that's true, then I don't think you want it stomping over Avengers. So you want to release Avengers first and then wait for a little bit, wait for people to get kind of pent up about like, okay FSA7 was last year, when's the next thing they're going to announce? And then they pop out like E3 or whatever the big conferences next year, go, here's 515, this is a different kind of game. But like, what's the, what was it called comrades, FF15 multiplayer?

I bet that was experiment for how 16 will probably try to work. Interesting. But what about Palm Fancy 7, too? I think. So there was a, that translation of Ultimedia the other day that was Numeru saying, we're starting working on two, but we're still not sure. how the structure of these games is going to work. I think as long as those games keep selling well,

they're going to take as long as they need to. I would guess, I think last, during the Spoilercast, I said, end of 2021, 2022. I think I'm probably going to go closer to 2020 now, but reveal in 2021. Yeah. I feel like they need to reveal it this year.

Something in me tells me that we're going to get at least like a title and like some some type of understanding of what the next game's going to be. I bet you what they do is they release a PS5, Xbox Series X, blah, blah, blah, version next year. At the end of that... A final mix.

Yeah, a final mix with a CG trailer at the end showing what's in the next couple of the next game. You're smart. You're smart. I like that. Blessing says,

this is the year. They announced the N64 Classic slash mini console. They've partnered with Microsoft and Rare to get access to their titles like Banjo, Diddy Kong Racing, and perfect dark.

Take that prediction and just cut and paste it to next year. I don't think that's happening this year. Yeah, I think too much. much production. Yeah. There's too much going on in that one. So you think it's, do you delay that prediction because of Corona stuff or just because

you haven't heard anything yet? Both, like mostly Corona stuff, but also because like I feel like there would have been like rumors or rumblings or something like by now. Sure. Typically those things are announced later in the year, like July, August. Yeah. And they kind of just happen. But I feel like people start to talk about them though, like months beforehand.

And like the black market of video games, like start to lift their voices, right? We start to hear about them. But we'll see. I think that's more likely for next year, if it's going to happen. I say GTA6 will be announced. It will have single player and it will be set in Vice City.

But eventually it'll turn into the world of Grand Theft Auto, adding new areas to travel between like the other cities. So there was a Shreier thing a couple of weeks ago. about like the culture at Rockstar and how like, yeah, Crunchy is getting better there and all that stuff. And like as a small aside later in, he says the studio's next project,

which is the new Grand Theft Auto game. So it's apparently in development, which is not shocking to anyone, obviously. But I guess I would love to know, I don't think it's going to be announced this year, but I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if it were. Yeah. I don't think it's going to be anymore.

And I don't even know that that's a corona thing necessarily. It's rock star thing. Yeah, this doesn't sit with me right anymore. I was just going to say, I feel like right now is too early. I think that's more of a next year thing. Yeah, I agree. Greg says Marvel's Avengers. Sorry.

Traditionally, GTAs are like, what, spring announcements, right? And then roll out a few months after that or whatever later in the year. Here's what I'm curious. If they announced GTA six either this year or next year, do you think it's going to be a current gen game, a cross-gen game, or a next-gen-exclusive? It has to be next-gen, right? Can you imagine that thing is going to be, like, big and powerful and it's going to want to take advantage of the technology? Yeah, they love money.

Like, giving up on a hundred million install bases, I don't see Rockstar doing that. Yeah. Because you figure, like, I feel like their motivations on any time they've ever done something like that would be exclusivity, right, where I'm sure PlayStation's working with them on a re-reactivity. and why they should be exclusive there. And so like that would, you know, if you have no horse in the race in terms of where people play,

you want to be where the most machines are, the most machines are. Now, granted, you know, this gets weird with backwards compatibility and upresing and smart delivery and everything else. But when do you guys think it would come out there?

Yeah, that's the problem. I'm thinking about this. It's like, I feel like it's not coming out next year. Yeah, like I imagine this is like a 20. Are they still making PS4 games?

I think it's like a 20-22 game earliest. And I feel like at that point, then you're like, like, and granted, we don't know how next gen is going to feel yet. Because like right now, their transition is very, like these generations are molding together more so than previous generations where where you see companies talk about how they are going to release things on both gens over the coming years. I, in 2022, I think Rockstar would put out, would put it out for next gen exclusive. I agree. at that point, like you're more looking toward the future. I'm going to throw on a new prediction here. I think we're going to see probably by the end of this year, early next year,

boxes on shelves that say PS4 slash PS5, Xbox 1 slash Series X, or whatever. And those are going to be like the new normal for a couple of years, like until about 2024. Like obviously there will be boxes just say PS5. But for the most part, a lot of third party games will be that hybrid box. and I think we're going to get used to that by the time of Grand Thefts game gets announced

and certainly by the time it gets released. Makes sense. Have you bought in on that the Series X copyright logo is something that would go on like the banner or the flag of a box, right? Where it would say Xbox and then over there it would be like, you know, Xbox One logo,

Xbox Series X logo, something like that. Yeah, I mean, like I'm not sure about that specifically, but that's the kind of thing they do. Like when they had backwards compatibility stuff, they rebranded old games like Fallout 3 to say playable on Xbox 1. Greg's next prediction. Marvel's Avengers delayed to 2021,

saying it won't be ready for launch, although it might launch anyway and do the normal live service thing instead of getting sixes and fives, maybe get better eventually. And you think fits because it's in trouble or Greg says yes. I have heard from some playtesters

that that game is just not fun and that is the main problem with it right now. It's a bad problem to have. I mean, that was a couple of months ago. I was like, who knows how it is right now, but yeah, it's, I would not be shocked if it got delayed, but I think I would bet they have some sort of Marvel agreement that says the game has to come out in a certain time.

Maybe coronavirus, that's them say. I was going to say, though, that's the thing is that I feel like, don't get me wrong, I want Avengers to come on. I want Avengers to be great. I've definitely had that. Tim and I've had that conversation, I think on shows, but in person for sure, or, you know, in private, of just like, it'd be cool to have adventures now,

be playing Avengers right now if we get fucking off and doing that afterwards. But I think that's another reason where, yeah, I think I was saying that, you know, the beginning of the year that it was going to get delayed. I think now I think it will get delayed. And I think they have an excuse why, right? Of like working from home, put us even further behind.

And to your point, if they do have a written agreement or what they had definitely have a written agreement with Marvel games. But if the contract has something in there of like, it needs a ship on the state or whatever, now there's this act of God. This is the thing. We're behind schedule. What do you want us to do? We can put out a bad game or we can keep working on and put that next spring.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially cyberpunk coming out then. Cyberpunk. At least the same month, are they? Yeah. Yeah.

They're like a week or two. Yeah, I think it's a week away from each other, which is like kind of... Because it was like, it was Avengers got delayed and then literally the next week, Cyberpunk got delayed to like the same area. Right now, Avengers set for the fourth, cyberpunk on my calendar set for the 17th, which is a Thursday, which seems weird, but that's what I have. How confident are you guys that cyberpunk is going to hit that date? I'm pretty positive that it's like done development-wise and like even with Polish.

They can certainly hit September. I think the only reason they might delay. it is because of economic reasons, which we don't know, we can't predict September right now, but I can see a situation where they go, like Sonya with the last of us and go, we're going to delete a couple of months just to make sure people can actually go into a store and buy it.

I think it's 100%. Yeah, I'm pretty confident in it. Like, they recently came out with a statement talking about how like, yeah, like even if it, and I'd have to pull up the article again to say for sure, but I feel like they even said something along the lines of like worst case will release a digital

and then follow it up with physical. Like, it seems like it seems like they really want it out by then and have like have everything planned out. And I think even as far as like working from home and in COVID-19 and all that stuff, I feel like by then infrastructures are kind of ironed out, like what you see with Sony in the last West and go sushi,ma, where, you know, they're out of place where they're like, okay, cool. Like, we had a delay because things were, things happened very suddenly. And we had to figure these things out.

But now that we've had enough time working from home, like we know how to make this work. I think you probably see that from Starobunk too. They're also probably pretty confident in the legs of that. Like the Witcher sold what, 1.5 million copies last year? It's crazy. So like they,

I bet they know that even if they don't release a physical copy that day and date, they are probably fine selling as many copies as they can over the next couple of years. Yeah. Umon's next one. There's zero way that Marvel didn't approach Microsoft about a thing. I think that thing will be shown

and it's the initiative's first game. There was a rumor about the individual. his first game the other day, right? Like something like it has surveillance camera. It was like the most blasé, really? Oh, yeah. I know we should talk about. You also said they approached Sony for Spider-Man

and Nintendo for Ultimate Alliance 3. It doesn't seem likely that they wouldn't go to Microsoft 2, nor that Microsoft would turn them down. I said, what is it? And you said, this isn't what I'm predicting, but they could make a great Dr. Strange game. And I said, Wolverine. Yeah.

And then Greg said at last E-3, I predicted at Xbox the first trailer for the initiatives game shown. It blows us away. It's modern day. It's third person action. It's narrative focus. So you say Marvel makes so much sense. I know once we made that prediction, people started tweeting at them about it.

Yeah. They didn't say no. Yeah, Drew Murray, I think he just did a shrug emoji. It's like, yeah, we got it. Yeah, I feel pretty good about it still. Yeah, I think they'll show an initiative's game this year. I don't know. It'll be Marvel, but I think we'll see it probably next couple months.

I think Xbox needs a Marvel game. I think that would be like really. key to their success going into this next gen, like with Sony having such a stack. That'd be awesome. That'd be fucking awesome. Like as reactive as Sony is on Microsoft these days, Microsoft, there's no way they didn't look at the sales of Spider-Man and go, yeah, that's really good. We want that.

Why didn't we think of that? Blessing says Amazon or Facebook will launch a game streaming service to compete with Stadia and XCloud. And I'm saying, I think those streaming wars are really going to heat up next year and then fall apart with one or two surviving, probably XCloud and Amazon. All that still stands, I think. Yeah? I don't know.

I don't know if it was us as an outlet or it was just me, but we got invited to an Amazon thing for GDC that didn't end up panning out because obviously there was no GDC. So I kind of wonder if that was supposed to be their reveal of the streaming service. But, yeah, there's enough rumors around the thing that we know they're probably working on one. And just the question of when they're actually going to bother releasing it. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it'll be a slam dunk for Amazon. to try it out at least. Like the worst that can happen is that they end up Google Stadia. Yeah. I mean, they had the servers already. It's just a matter of like putting in that backbone. Yeah. I say BluePoint's next game's announced it's not Demon Souls.

It's Metal Gear Solid. Let's fucking go, especially after all that's seven remake. I want that so bad. Oh my God. Additional comment, we know they're working on my PS5 title. Greg said, I also had a prediction it's not Demon Souls, but that's only because everyone thinks it is. I'm going to double down.

I think it is Demon Souls. It's probably Demon Souls. Do you guys still think that we get that announcement this year? Yes. I think, yeah, I think Blue Point being in the wired stuff is that they are groomed to be part of the launch announcement, not launch lineup necessarily, but I think they are in whatever would have been the stage presentation for PlayStation 5. They would have had a trailer where it would have been Blue Point and then into Demon Souls or whatever

it's going to be. Yeah, I think that's going to be a huge pop. Oh, my God. Yeah. Whenever that PS5 event happens probably in May, whenever that Blue Point game gets revealed, whether or not it's Demon Souls, I don't think it's gonna be Demon Souls

because I don't know if the pop, like, for sure, Dark Souls and Bloodbourne fans and like people who are in that, like people who are fans of those games, that pop is gonna be real. But I feel like there are other franchises that PlayStation has access to or that PlayStation can like partner with

in terms of other companies and IPs that would get a bigger pop that would be more impactful from Blue Point, that I'm not sold on it yet being... Who would you think? Give us some examples. And I'll tell you why you're wrong. Like, Castlevania, also there's like a saw going on outside my window if you hear that.

But like... Yeah, like Castlevania. I forget what are some of the other things we were worth running around. That's a sound like Hill River, which I don't think is all that like ungr credible. Is an example of a thing that could show that would get an actual pop. Yeah. This would get a pop with the people you want, though, right? Like you were talking about earlier, if you were selling five million,

six million units at launch. Like, you got a bunch of nerdy-ass gamers like us. And I think that if you were to say, hey, you know, you all love Bloodborn. You all love demons or Dark Souls.

This is the one that started it all. And now, you know, Bluepoints remade it and they've made it more accessible. They've made it, you know, it's everything you love about the combat and all that, but it's with a Western style to it,

right? They've come in and made this approachable in a way the original wasn't. I think that really would go over. No, I don't think they'd change anything. I think they like keep it exactly the same to graphical remake, but like it's still the same broken, janky mess. It's always been that people love. Sure.

But I do think they have that tag of see where the like journey began or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just because it makes sense to lean hard on the popularity of those games. Soul, soul burns. Yeah, man. That's what they call it. No, Greg says, Patapont 2 is released. And IGN and GameSpot continue to be cowards and refuse to review it.

I'm on the board, baby. I'm on the fucking board. There we go. fucking clown shoe cowards at IGN and GameSpot. All right. They have all the time in the world now. Where are you at? Dan Stapleton,

huh? What are you doing in the other room, Lucy James? Not reviewing Padapon 2, huh? Coward sites. Full of cowardly people. Well, congrats,

Greg, you got something right. I'm on there. I'm on there. Umon says, Beyond Good and Evil 2 doesn't come out this year, but I think they released Rayman this year. I was right about the first half.

I'm not positive about the second half anymore. Yeah. Because I think if they would, I don't think you have to have to have. announced at most they may announce another far cry but I think they're probably done with announcements this year because they have a big enough slate already

yeah like what they have like Assassin's Creed Valhalla that they just announced they have gods and monsters watch dogs, legion Rainbow Six quarantine and then Afria what else I feel like there's a fifth game there that's a ton of stuff do you think they release Rambo's quarantine again anymore

I think they rename it like they're 100% going to rename it they cannot because the game is called Quartheon's in place Yeah, Rainbow 6, COVID-19 is here. It wouldn't be the first time that they, like, cancel Rainbow 6 game. There was a, what was it, Patriots. There was an entire Game Informer cover story about that game. The month it was canceled.

Wow. Vaguely remember that. Yeah. So I wasn't on Games Daily today, but obviously the Assassin's Creed kind of announcement thing happened today, like all the T's tomorrow would get in the trailer. Do you guys think that this was all according to the plan, or do you think that this was stuff that they would have saved 3-3? or I don't know. They've always done it this way. Like they've announced an Assassin Tweed early

and then shown like a CG trailer and then some gameplay later. And then like at the actual press conferences they would have a bigger like a 15 minute seed from the game. Yeah. So I think this is probably always the plan. It's just now a question of what do they do

with the interim. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I thought it was interesting. The boss logic drawing thing with no run up to it. That was what was weird about it to me was like, yeah, to Imron's point, most of these games, right from Ubisoft, get there, time in the sun right before E3, then there's the big E3 presentation that goes on too long where it's the game, it's the trailer, it's them talking, it's some gameplay, it's another trailer, like fucking stop fucking doing it. But this one I thought was, I liked it. I thought it was a cool way to introduce this to the world and get, I mean, you know, what I think I saw between 25,000 and I think 40,000 people on that page watching the art get made.

Like that's cool. And I like that there was no buildup to it. So like you weren't able to get your head all. You couldn't get in a tizzy of what it was going to be and what was going to happen. And then be disappointed today. It was that I woke up and looked at my phone. Like, wait, what is it happening right now? And you went and looked at it.

And so that was the weird part from you of like, was that always the plan? Was then getting into the trailer? Was that some kind of change for the work from home thing? I don't know. Yeah. I bet you the boss logic thing specifically was probably like, hey, we got to figure out a thing that we could do while everybody's working from home. And I think the boss logic thing was just like a sparking. genius where they're like hey like what if we get this artist who's who's uh viral all the time yeah yeah

like all the internet like what if you get him to do an illustration and that's the thing that works you know and i thought it was super rad man especially yeah i i love that it ends with us knowing that we're getting the trailer tomorrow so like we didn't wait for like some more shit it's just like this is cool timing but it does make me think about because ubsop is doing something e3 like they were one of the early ones to announce it right it was them in microsoft that said that they were still doing. Yes. They said they would have a digital presentation at some, or not this

digital, a presentation at some point. Yes. They didn't commit to it being during E3 time. But what I mean is like, we know that they have an event of an that's replacing that at some point. So that's where I'm like, when does that happen? And where does all of this kind of fit into it? I think right now everyone's just kind of waiting for everyone else to move.

So they can, like, if you want to, if you are Ubisoft and you, you announce the same day or the same week as Microsoft, you're going to get run over for every game that's not going to be at Microsoft's conference. So you want to just kind of like be the week before, the week after or something like that. But I also bet you that if you're Ubisoft, you're also going to show up in Microsoft's conference in some way. And so you just,

you probably want to go before at some or after. Before. Yeah, but like you want to line up with that in some way. Yeah. Like for a reveal certainly, which is why this Valhalla thing makes sense for them right now is now the game is announced. So if it shows up at either Sony or Microsoft events, then it's not going to be a huge, like, oh, man, also a new Assassin's Creed.

Like, it's, oh, there's a Texas Creed. Now we finally see what it looks like on a next-gen system. Yeah. Bless says the PS5 is revealed to be launching at $400. Series X was revealed to be launching at $500 with another Xbox skewered during the year to be launched at $350. So I think the PS5 is going to be $500. So I'm going to update that because of all the things we've heard in recent. months. That Bloomberg story

was like they would have to struggle to hit 450. Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, well, 479 or whatever. 479-99 was where they would like, well, that's a weird price to put it in it. Yeah, it was like, yeah, they basically have to like cut the difference. Either go at 450 and lose money on each console, which they could do,

or just go up to 500. I still stand by. I think there will be the Xbox series S or whatever like the lower level console is. That'll replace what the Xbox 1 is now. And I think that'll come out. I think my prediction said $350, right?

Yeah. Yeah. I might even say $300. Hell yeah, man. $300. Especially when releasing two very expensive boxes right now is, or right now, I mean, like, this economic climate, which I don't think is going to certainly reverse itself by winter. By fall, yeah.

Yeah, like releasing $200,500 boxes is going to be difficult. They might still have to do it, but I can see why they would want to, Microsoft at least would want to say like also here's a $300 box. It does basically the same things. Not quite to that same level. Like you probably don't have a 4K TV anyway, so here's something else. I

do wonder how much those consoles are going to be affected by the possibility of more stimulus checks coming, especially towards the end of winter. Like if you and you were getting $1,200 in November,

you might buy a console. Like most people are probably going to use on a rent and stuff like that. Some people aren't. And I think for Microsoft and Sony, that would work out really quite well for them. But that's a, that's harder to speculate on. I said a new Mario Kart will be announced. The title will be something that makes it a Super Smash Brothers type game. Nintendo Kart, but not called that, Mario Kart universe or something. More integration with Zelda and Animal Crossing, et cetera, going all in with the courses being from different franchises. I don't know if I stand by it for this year anymore. I think...

Especially with all those rumors about the ridiculous amount of Mario stuff that might happen. I think right now, like, they just finished tour. So they're probably... If Arms 2 is being made, and I'd probably... At this point, I think it's likely that it is. Then that's what that team is working on. But I do think if they're not working on Mario Kart 9 now,

they're probably going to start as soon as that out the game is done. Yeah. Where's Mario Golf, Tim? Where is Mario Golf? Bless that I was thinking of predicting Mario Golf and Paper Mario this year. Cart 9. will happen, but I think it's like two years away. I think you're doing. A Paper Mario, huh?

I think that's right. Yeah, man. Yeah, Paper Mario's for sure. Slam dunk. Yeah, dude. Paper Mario golf, you know, just put it all together. Put it all together, man. Just run and do some quick ones here. Post-show ones that we got to do. Andy said Apex Legends will introduce a single player thing, like a five to six hour campaign like Titanfall 3, but not, it'll be free to, uh, wait, not free to play. $30. That'd be smart.

Yeah. I think that'd be smart to do like a $30, whatever you want to call it. Because people would buy it. Not actually, you know what, maybe. Like I don't count it out. Like if they announced it this fall or they announced it even like during E3 time, right, VA came out and they're like, and like to top it off, you know, the next few months, let's say in August we're releasing an Apex single player mode

that you can buy for 30 bucks. I just think it'd be a very smart move because releasing Apex Legends free meant that like within the first, and Apex Legends being a hit meant that, like, I think a few months into its launch, like, it had like 50 million players or something like that. And so, like, it has the brand recognition and it has the characters, it has all the juice

for them to, like, release an actual paid single player mode, I think would be really smart, and I think a lot of people would be into it. Does EA have any announced games anymore? Like, like, they just sunset at battlefield. They announced like their next battlefront two plans.

And the final battlefront two plans, too. Yeah. Did they announce a burnout or something? No. They're going to switch, but. Okay. Other than that. Yeah.

I think they're in next gen mode. Yeah. But usually they have like some announcement. I guess that now that they're like, we're in the middle of their hard cut off. And they're probably going to come at E3 with like, come at it swinging at least some degree with new Star Wars, new, all that stuff. Yeah. But right now they've got nothing. And we don't know.

They haven't said anything about a E3 conference. Yeah. They're backing out or if they're doing something. They're certainly not going to do it. They're not part of the ES. They are part of the ESA, but they weren't part of E3 technically. So they weren't part of those cancellations, but they're definitely not going to have EA play this year. You don't think at any point in the year they don't do it?

I don't think it's not going to be a mass gathering. It could be a annual event or whatever. So you're saying I hope to the last EA, but I killed me. You killed it, yes. Thank you. Before we move on, let me tell you about our sponsor. This episode of Kind of Funny Gamescast is brought to you by Purple. Purple is an evolutionary mattress with its own patented technology, the purple grid.

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that's like one of the people would say that's one of the best first person shooter campaigns of the generation, right? And so if you get respawn on Apex Legends single player mode, I think that could do gangbusters. I think Andy's on to something. I'm with them. I think they could transfer Apex Legends to Dice L.A. And respawn the team, that big team itself works on a new, like, major new game. Yeah.

Because they, I mean, they are, they were working on Titanfall 3, I think, or something along those lines, right? They mentioned it a couple of times and like, yeah, we could do Titanfall 3 next or stuff like that. I bet there was, they were at one point working on it. I don't know what's happening with it now. But Dice LA is being treated as the other respawn, right? So I assume they're going to be working on things that we would traditionally expect respond to work on. Now we're going to move over to the next gen bets and predictions that we did about the new consoles.

So when will the PS5 be revealed defined as release date and price? So let's see. Blessing. Blessing says May, before you three, Tuesday, May 19th. It'll be a state of play, not a conference. Stand by it. Well, maybe not the state of play. I don't know if it'll be brand of state of play. At this point, I'm not convinced that. I put that seat down your head. Yeah, me and Greg, you're talking on PSLO. I don't know if it's going to be branded as state of play. But I think it would be. What's the reasoning for that, Greg? Because where the fuck's state of play?

Yeah. When we went back and looked at it and you looked for the four of last year and you went to the site. The site's very clear. Like, this year, this year, we're doing this. And so it was like, wait, was this a one year trial? Was this just a bandaid to cover not doing shows so that you could get to 2020, which was going to do the PlayStation 5's year and have these big announcements and big events

and double down on live things and seen, and like that's all fucked up, but it's too late then at that point. So like, is state of play as a brand, not dead, of course, nothing ever dies in the video game industry,

but not how they'll come back and when they have to come back with this. I think if you want to make a big, you attach the PS5 reveal to it. Like that controller gets like a record number to Instagram. likes. I bet you can make people tune in regardless of what you call it. But that's my thing is, their thought process on it would be that state of play,

even though it's only been for state of plays, it has a vision for what it is, and that vision doesn't, isn't congruent with what we want a PlayStation 5 reveal to be. And we don't need to call anything. We just say meet the PlayStation 5, PlayStation 5 reveal, whatever the hell we want to call it. That thing's going to do, check on numbers. We don't

have to worry about branding and anything. And then having people show up to the next state of playing be like, this is anything like the last one. Like, no, the last one was a very special occasion. It was us announcing a console. I say Tuesday, May 12th. Emron says June, the week before E3. You tease before that where you get to see the box and the announcement of the conference or whatever.

Greg says May, close to E3, but not during. Wednesday the 13th, taking advantage of Judges Week or whatever replaces it. Technically, everyone who says before A3 is correct. Partial credit for me. Partial credit. Are we still feeling confident? in May and if so, where do we think it's going to land? I'm still confident May. Yeah.

Like I don't think that they were planning. You know, the Bloomberg piece talked about this too, right, of like planning for a live event that probably won't happen anymore. So now I think they just pivoted to some kind of showcase some kind of state of play, whatever, some kind of digital event.

And so I think it's you already had people building assets you assume for all the stuff, trailers, gameplay demos, how you're going to package it, who's going to host it, what it's going to look like. That's completely different.

That's what I think they're, They're not scrambling, but what they're working on. But I say, especially as hungry and like what we're talking about with the dual sense, right? This is what I was talking about with blessing of their day of like one of the reasons they said the dual sense, right, had to get out there was that they were shipping it out to their developers. So you know it's about to leak. The Bloomberg piece was talking about, hey, like, you know, in June, the PlayStation 5 will go into production, meaning that somebody on the line is going to, is going to snap a photo of what the actual console looks like. so you have to have that out before that too. Like before it gets out to major,

before it gets out to not the mass public, but large numbers of people who aren't Sony employees, you need to have this thing debut to everybody. So there's nothing, no skeleton in the closet to chase them down. So I still, I mean, it's ridiculous. It sounds crazy to say that, oh yeah, totally happening in two days we're into May

and that it'll be this month. It's going to happen. But it has to, right? It has to happen there. And you weren't going to do E3 anyway, so why would you pivot away from that date? I do think what you were saying about, like, leaks and security, probably not as much of concern right now. Because, like, nobody's going home with a PS5 dev kit, except for the most senior members of that team.

Sure, but I'm not talking about a dev kit. I'm talking about somebody on the line assembling it. Yeah. It's like how the PlayStation 3 Slim got like into a resell market before anybody do what it looks like. Yeah, but they started producing those at that point. Right now, I imagine a PS5 is like a 3D printed box that they're using for marketing stuff. Yeah. But the actual production probably not can start until late June.

And I assume they will have it revealed before then. Yeah. When will it be released? Greg says Friday, November 13th. Bless says Friday, November 13th. Imran says Friday, November 6th. And I also say Friday, November 13th. Imron's reasoning was the closer to Black Friday,

the harder it'll be to get all the shipments ready. How are we feeling about this one? Are we still confident in November? Or is it going to be like a February? I think they are confident November assuming like things don't get cataclysmically bad. Like assuming that like production in China still

up to par they think it is. Assuming that people like stores are open and all that by winter, they will be fine for that. Like they don't intend to sell a lot this year but they plan to sell some at least get that foothold in. The only thing I can see delaying it is if games aren't ready. And that is still a big question mark. So I can.

see them delaying a horizon or something like that but if they're just nothing no game is ready for launch then then they will delete the system you think so i think because i mean well no games like zero games of course obviously but i think that that'll be something i mean right we talk about uh indies right and we talk about things that are just cross gen or whatever coming out i think if they're there you have enough of a reason to especially with fewer shipments or fewer units being produced and being shipped out you still have the reason of it's hey the PlayStation 5 is here, it runs all your games faster, it loads them faster, it's a better quality experience

than next year you're going to get Horizon and this and that and all that jazz. I imagine that'll be the case because they're going to sell through. Like, however many they make of this thing, it's going to be ridiculously hard to get your hands on one. So it's like they might as well get it out.

Sell through is a different question than the marketing of it. Because like ask Microsoft and it's very hard to change the perception of an initial launch. If the initial launch is there's just no games, the next year and a half, two years, that's the theme song of the PS5 is there's no games regardless of what comes out on it. Yeah, that's true. I feel like that was kind of the case already, though, with the PS4. Like, I remember, like, it would, of course, wasn't as dire as it could be if, like,

nothing comes out. But I feel like Sony's kind of been to that song and dance also of like, man, we're all the games. Like 2014 felt kind of empty when you look at the rest of the generation. I think worst case Let me not even say worst case scenario A thing I can see happening And we've talked about it before Like me and Greg would talk about them before Is like a soft launch happening in fall

And then like you see Sony go harder with marketing In the spring Say if something like Horizon Zero Don got delayed To spring and they wanted to go hard with that And have limited numbers available in the fall I think that's a likely case It's definitely an option for them Like, if they do go that route, I think that's the smartest way to do it.

But I don't know. I think there's probably two executives arguing with each other right now at Sony trying to decide which of these two methods is the best way to do this. I don't think. I think they will probably just launch in November, and they will probably have a game or two that is likely as close to done as it can be done without being released. And they were just sitting on it.

If they didn't launch Soshima this year, or didn't announce it several years ago, I think that would have been a great candidate to just be a PS5 launch game. Interesting. So then when will the series X be released? I say Friday, October 16th. Imran says Thursday, September 17th, cyberpunk launch day. Oh, man. Les says Friday, November 20th.

And Greg says Friday, November 6th. I don't stick by that anymore since they said, Thanksgiving on that website. Yeah. Like, yeah, no, it's not going to be September anymore. Yeah, that whole website thing was weird. I still feel like they want to get out earlier than that. Like, I feel like with Xbox, it's like the earlier, the better.

I just think that with how the world is right now, all those plans kind of go out the window. Do you think that website thing was intentional? No. I started to come around to the idea that like they got people talking about it on the day that controller was revealed. I was being like, hey, also the Xbox thing. is coming. Whoops, we didn't mean to announce that quite yet. I feel like that's a little too conspiracy theory.

It's, I mean, it was too deliberate, I think. I like the idea that that's what happened is that they were like, yo, switch it up, man. They're talking about the place. Push the website library. Like they already had that graphic pre-made for months because they knew. I don't know, man. I like the idea of it. Yeah.

I mean, what do you guys think in terms of the launch of now? I mean, just in general, PS5 and Xbox. just still mid-November. Yeah, I think that's probably correct. They both seem, yeah, bullish that they can get it out for holiday, and that makes sense to me in terms of getting out before Black Friday and being traditional. Then how much will the PS5 cost? All of us say 500.

Imran says 400, but he says still deciding between 4 and 5. They'll take a loss that they think Microsoft will undercut them. I think they'll take a loss. I don't think it'll be 400 anymore. I think it'll probably be like 450. at the biggest loss they're willing to take. But I do think if Microsoft comes out and they say 500, they will try to undercut them.

Then the series X, and is there another series at launch and what will it cost? Bless says 500 and yes, the other will be 350. Greg says 500 and no, the 1X is the low end model for now. Imron says 500 and yes within the first couple months. Maybe not launch day and it'll be between 3 and 350.

And I say 500 and yes, $100. Yeah, because your idea is that it's a streaming box. I still stand by, man. Like, I think I think a hundred might be hyperbolic, but I do think that it's going to be like 250 or less. Like, I think it's going to be like, like, let's just get this in freaking houses to get GamePack. I mean, just today they talked about the 10 million GamePass subscribers.

They want that number higher. I don't think what Greg was saying about 1X being like the low end model now is going to, I think basically on what Phil Spencer has been saying of, I think NextGen is going to be about faster load times more than Terraflops, stuff like that, that they need an actual new console with an SSD built in to play the games the way they expect to play. So I don't think they're going to do the whole thing of like, oh, we want Xbox 1X to be the low-end version. They want to be able to market on those kind of ideas. Buzz, what are you about to say?

I was going to say my thing is I think Xbox is going to, I think they want to release $100 console so badly. but I don't think X cloud and like streaming video game streaming is in a place where they're able to do that yet. I think you'll see that later in the generation where they are like okay here's a $100 Xbox series stream or whatever they call it

and you know you're able to it's X cloud compatible and the whole idea of it is a streaming box that way they're able to get the cost so down because like for them I think their strategy this time around is going to be options and giving people as many places to jump into the Xbox

legal system as possible. And so that's kind of how I see it. Again, I changed my price from the series S down from 350 to 300. Yeah. And then the last two questions here, what would be the first party slash exclusive launch titles

for Xbox and then PlayStation? So, Blas says, Halo and Forza MotorSport 8. Fable and Hellblade will be 2021. I say, Halo and Forza are the only two big exclusives. Emron says, Halo and Dead Rising 5 and

Forza. And also this gen 3rd party stuff like Avengers and Cyberpunk and then Greg says Halo and Forza. So the only real interesting thing here is Imran, do you still stand by Dead Rising 5? I think so. I think Capcom is definitely probably cooking something up. They've been weirdly quiet about it. Like,

I know, like there are studios there that aren't working on anything else that I would be shocked if they were not working on something like Dead Rising 5. I think the cyberpunk thing is Timberpunk came out like that day that they announced smart delivery and was like, yeah, it'll be on Xbox Series X as well, like that the better version. So I think that kind of counts as a launch game.

So I'm sticking by that as well. Then for PlayStation 5, Greg says Horizon 1 Dawn, but it won't be called that. Emron says Horizon 2 and Street Fighter 6. Bless says BluePoint's game, House Mark's game. I'm not sold on Horizon. maybe there is no big launch game. And I say there needs to be a big launch game to go up against Halo. Not Spider-Man and God of War, so it has to be Horizon.

I still stand by that as a concept, but I do think that knowing that we're going to have limited supplies, I'm not as sold on them having a big launch game anymore. Yeah, I think both the Xbox Series X and both in the PS5 are going to sell out in this holiday. I think both companies know that. So maybe competing right now doesn't make a lot of sense. aside from just putting out the marketing message

so people know that there actually is console on the store shelves, which one they want to buy. Yeah. But I mean like Halo's happening, right? Do we all agree with that? Yeah, I think Halo's happening. So then the question becomes, if you're PlayStation,

when you want something there to counter it, why not Horizon? And then if we're talking about there, well, there's not as many units out, don't we get into a Breath of the Wild situation where it launches with the system and then it just is, you know, pretty much a foregone conclusion that whenever you buy a PlayStation 5 for the first year, you're going to buy Horizon with it. Yeah.

Yeah, I could see that. I feel like that's still true if you put out Horizon in the spring, though. Like, I think everybody that has a PlayStation that buys the PS5 as well. But I think at that point, you lose the front line war with Xbox, where it's like if I plan on buying both fees, what am I going to buy first? The PlayStation 5, because it can load my games faster or the Xbox with Halo and the fact. they can load my games faster. That would be like... You're giving a lot of credit to Halo Infinite

that I'm not sure is bared out by Halo's... I don't know, man. Still, though, I think that this... I think Halo's going to be a huge deal. The one thing that's weird about, though, is it's also on Xbox One. Like, they don't have to have their own game. They could have...

They can make a marketing deal with Call of Duty. Of course. And honestly, that would be as big or bigger than Halo. The reason with the Halo thing that I get excited and bullish on it is, I think Microsoft and 343, right, know that their backs are against, the wall. They know that Halo is not

Halo anymore. You know what I mean? It doesn't have that. And I'm sure they want to get back to that. I think they want to have a God of War moment with it. Will that happen? Who the fuck knows? That's a tall order to say. But I do think that that game is going to come out and try to be special. That's an interesting thing too

that I feel like, I mean, you're absolutely right about that. I wonder if Halo Infinite where it's at in development and being complete because what if it's not ready for November. Yeah.

Spencer, he's, but the Xbox, do they delay the Xbox then? Yeah, he had some concerns about that. He, like, he didn't say directly like,

oh, it's a problem. He said, if it does become a problem, then that becomes an issue for when that game gets, or that console gets launched. Yeah.

Because I feel like they can't launch it without it. Yeah. Like, what would it be like a grab by the guileys remaster or something? Like, rarely, they don't have a whole lot of other options for like a big launch game.

Yeah. Nobody's not going to do it. Dark. that was that was the rumor for that was the rumor for initiatives game that's perfect dark yeah because the the the rumor was there somebody basically came out and said that like the game would involve like i think gadgets and like like stuff that you would expect in perfect dark like technology and aliens or whatever um and so people were like oh yeah they're obviously working on perfect dark i'm not sold in it but we'll see perfect dog zero was the most i've ever disappointed by a game i think man DMC too was it for me but perfect dark zero was who superman 64 god like that sucks that like that was it for you I can imagine how excited you'd be for a superman came and you start playing and you're like this is a superman at all whoa what are these rings oh man um just doing a little lightning round real quick I want to go through a whole bunch of just random predictions we made and like let's just give

uh like do we yes or no um Greg says Halo Infinite's Metacritic is 90 above on December 31st. I'm going to say yes. I'm sticking with it. I'm going to say no. It's surprisingly hard to get a 90 these days. Imran says, which pro will be released within the next two years? Yes. I'm going to say to yes.

No. Yes. How come great? I want to be different. There we go. There we go. I'm a switch pro is such a weird idea. But I'm a stupid moron because even the, I guess the new DS right is good

enough for that would be the Switch Pro to you people? Yeah, they put... Yeah, like, a 4K Switch or like a... Like, not SwitchPro's in PS4 Pro, but Switch... No, no, what do they call it the new 3DS light or whatever the fuck it was? Yeah. I think it's a thing that makes it look better, then it works on a launch system. Then I think it can't to the Switch Pro.

It had different rating. Like a Swift 1.5. Bless as Microsoft buys don't nod. Lips Strange 3 announced as I... exclusive. I still stick by Microsoft's going to buy Don'tod. Life Strange is owned by Square Inix. And so if they wanted to have that as exclusive,

they wanted to partner with Square Inix, which I think is possible, but I think it'd probably be easier just to have them make a new IP. And so I'm going to say that. And just some fun stuff there. Your reasoning was, tell me why it's already Xbox exclusive.

Episodicames need financial support of the big studio. And Greg says that's why Microsoft requires deck nine, the people that did before the storm for the same. reason. They haven't announced another game yet. I think I want to amend that one because I think Square Nix buys deck nine this year. I think they probably have them working on another Life Estrange kind of thing. Yeah.

And then they like trust them with that sort of, I don't know how Square Nix felt about Life Strange too at the end of the day, but I wouldn't be shocked if they were kind of disappointed in the sales. Sure. So I think they probably go to deck nine and say, hey, what can you do with it? We're going to trust you with the next, the keys to this franchise for the next thing. Ryan Clement's dream come true, he works at Square. Whole circle.

I say Marvel versus Capcom instead is just Marvel fighting game made by Capcom. I do think it's going to happen. I just don't. I don't think it's going to be this year for sure, but I do think. This is next-gen bets. Yeah, I think- They've at least a fighting game since, or since Infinite. So they're probably working on something.

There's a fighting game division, so I'm just curious what that next thing is. I hope it's this. Greg says the real streaming race in five years isn't with Stadia but it's XCloud Amazon and PlayStation in the rear Yep Hell yeah I can say it That's all they still seem very confused about what that thing is

And how they should be marketing it at all Yep Imron says Valve is next in the streaming space But making steam By making stream Sorry by making Steam games also streamable Yeah I stand by it Isn't that just what a Nvidia

G-Force now is doing? Yeah, but they didn't get anyone to agree, and I'm sure they keep losing games from it. That would make sense for Valve to be like, hey, we'll just do it ourselves so that maybe developers will have as much of a problem with it. Or it's like if you sign, if you're going to sell your game on Steam, you have to agree to this thing. Yeah. That would be a big dick move.

Yeah. Holy crap. Emron also says probably once Google sells them, their stadium backbone. I don't think that's going to happen in the next couple of years, but I think it'll happen eventually. I don't think Google's in this for a long ago. uh bless says gta 5 will be re-released in some new edition for next gen either graphical overhaul or new single player content akin to persona 5 royal um i forgot i said this yeah

i stand by it i'm i'm a genius that's happening are you kidding me gta 5 2 yeah it's happening um i say we will not see remasters like last generation instead just patches for late gen games and they'll be free. Smart delivery. I totally stand by that and I feel like I get a point. Although we'll see the PlayStation side of things. Key wording to that one is the fact that they said third parties have an option to do it. And that is going to be the thing.

Who's going to choose to be the first dick to go, no, we're not going to do it. We're going to sell a new game. We'll see. Greg says Tim Schaefer leaves double fine this generation. He's not going to retire. I stand by it. see how he likes Microsoft yeah I can see it

I feel like everybody's left everything by the end of this generation already I think you ship Psycho Nats too and then yeah we'll stick around a while more but I think he'll get out Imron coming through Resident Evil 4 remake two to three years from now

if it's non-development now it will be once they see R3 sales it's one of the best games of all time so touching it anywhere will be difficult but I think they can do it yeah I mean I knew that I guessed that before like the very specific thing

about it being a rumor came out, I still think, yes, it's going to be extremely difficult for them to do. You saw the reaction once that rumor came out, everyone was like, no, don't remake R4, what are you doing? I'm excited, man. They need to stop there. They can't do anything past that. I'll just don't even try

at that point. Let's see, bless this, by the end of the generation 1, PS5 will outsell in the beginning, but by the end Xbox will catch up and compete with a number of active users. Two, Ninja Theory will be widely regarded as their premiere studio, their naughty dog. I stand by all of it.

Yeah. Yeah, me too. I will say it was weird how what's the dismissive. They treated that last Ninja Theory game. Like it sort of came out and nobody talked about it. And Microsoft. Oh,

Bleeding Edge. Yes. Yeah. I don't know what that was. Like that's not even like, that's like Nadi log coming out and putting out like, um, Ballaborne.

Like it's just such, such a weird. Like, it is bizarre. I don't understand what the vision was that. What was with that? Like, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It was such a strange thing. I don't know. Like, I understand they were working on that game before Microsoft bought them. But at that point, like, if the product's not coming together, just acts it. You have a lot of money. You're Microsoft. But it's also GamePass where it's just like there's just another, there's a new thing for people to play.

You know, it's like, and I feel like this could be kind of the bad side of game pass, where it's kind of like Netflix, where it's like, not everything's going to be stranger things. You're going to also get a lot of stuff that's just kind of there. people want content. I think what that game should have been, it should have been free to play for everybody on PC and Xbox. But if you have a game pass subscription, you get like a season of new costumes or whatever as long as you're subscribed.

Like that should have been that game. I don't know why they made it like a $30 game that was just free on game pass as well. Because yeah, maybe that's what, nobody talks about it. It seems like nobody plays. I remember the numbers being bad the first week, but I haven't heard any updates or anybody talk about it.

Yeah. They sent it to die. Maybe their strategy was like, hey, instead of making it free to play, we'll just make it free on game pass. And that'll be like the, like that'll essentially be it being free to play in order to sell the system or sell the, not the system, like the game pass. But yeah, I don't know if that's panned out for them in the right way.

I mean, it's a, it's a good look at the future of that other, the obsidian game grounded. Grounded? Yeah. The tiny people game. That's going to be exactly the same. It's going to be, it just releases one day and it's going to be like, what, really? And then no one will talk about it again. Yeah.

I say the next Mario Kart will be the highest selling switch game by the end of all things and with an insane adoption rate. I still stand by this. Although I will say the Animal Crossing sales numbers have surprised me. Yeah, it was like fastest selling

like one of the fast selling games of all time, period. It's ridiculous and it's going to be hard for any game to match those, that same criteria in context again. Yeah. I don't know if I stick by. a new Mario Kart being the best-selling game on the Switch anymore. Like with Animal Crossing and with also

Mario Car 8 Deluxe being a thing. Like I think two Mario Carts being on the same console, then probably like dampens the second one sales a bit because if people already have Mario Kart. See, but it's so old. My argument here is that I think that all of these things just add up to

this being the case. Animal Crossing selling as well as it did and the Switch selling as well to new people currently, those type of people that are playing Animal Crossing are also interested in Mario Kart. And eventually they will buy this next one. Now that Animal Crossing is out, Nintendo's kind of out of their big sellers. Like they've done the Pokemon, they've done the, all that stuff.

So the next thing is, do you do sequels all these games or do you go to the kind of older stuff that you don't touch that often? And I think they're probably going to try to middle ground of like, sequel to Zelda, sequel to Mario Odyssey. I could see Mario Kart being one of those. yeah definitely Greg says this one breaks my heart there will be no PSVR too we're just talking about this either yeah I stand it by that one

I think that COVID has helped what actually what actually gets me thinking you're right is the controller because they remove the light bar from the front so now like there's no VR way to see it there's the hope that

the read on that and I always fuck it up because I love VR but I don't know the tech well but the hope is from what I've heard online is that controller light bar being brighter and on top of the controller, moves it to being the camera inside the thing, kind of like Oculus. Like an inside out tracking. Exactly. So it would be looking at the controller's

light from a top rather than trying to look at you across the TV. I could see that, but yeah. It really depends on what PSVR is. Or PSVR 2 is. Like I said when we did this originally, I believe that they have the best intention of making a PSVR 2. I believe it's in development right now. I bet they have a whole bunch of

different things in progress for it. But it's like we were talking about this week, right, bless with Ironman VR. You know, hey, here, guess what, everybody? Last of Us and Iron Man VR delayed indefinitely. Hey, guess what everybody? Here's Last of Us and Ghost's Cheema's new release date. Okay, what about Iron Man VR? And you start following that back of, I think they're going to want that out before

PlayStation 5. So I think it's kind of just going to be pushed out there. But if they're trying to keep it out of the way, the other two games, it gets closer to PlayStation 5, was there going to be a bundle for it? Is there still going to be a bundle for it? because Ironman and Marvel, right, are a good entry point to get you into PlayStation VR. But if I haven't gotten into PlayStation VR yet, am I now going to look at buying this bundle for Ironman? And then also think about buying a PlayStation 5 down the road.

I just feel like they, not even their fault here, the way the Domino's fell with delaying Iron Man initially and then this giant delay or whatever, I think it's put them into a lose-lose scenario of getting it out and not moving more PSVR units. You're going to have a good sell-through for that game and attach rate. that game, but I don't think it's going to lead to a huge spike, like if they probably wanted in terms of adoption of the hardware. If you can't get that, why do you don't know? Market a game in a very passive

way of saying like, okay, here's footage of this video game. To market a VR game requires somebody to actually have a VR helmet on, which they usually do person to person. Like, I've talked to him by saying the day. When we're at the mall near the studio, they had those patient VR setups.

They can't have those anymore. They're not going to have them next year or the year after. And people are just not going to want to put them to help. And is anybody at any airport? Because I've seen them there to mall or trade show. He'd be like, yeah, let me strap this thing on my face. I saw this sweaty stranger walk, walk away from it now.

Last couple here, though, I want to talk about. Greg says, another Simpsons hit and run game, this generation, either remastered or two. I know the developers have been saying they wanted to do a remaster. I don't remember. Like, I think it was an issue of who holds the rights is not developing video games anymore or something like that, but I know that they are trying to push one. I hope it happens.

It'll happen. Yeah, I think there'll be a remaster for sure. It deserves this. If Spongebod, Rehydrated can happen, that's the thing, man.

And then the final one, the bonus from Vless, and oh, I love it so much. It's not going to happen, but Noddy Dog's next new IP after Last of Us will be a Mission Impossible

inspired espionage heist adventure that keeps the spirit of the big budget high action set pieces of uncharted but mixes that with an intricate engaging narrative third person action gameplay at a new main character that will act

as a new face of PlayStation. I want it. And it's going to be called naughty dogs agent. Yeah. I thought that was I said called agent the last one. I watched the agent trailer reason. I want that game. I'm so sad. It's not happening because it looks dope. Here's the thing, bless.

What you're describing is what people think the initiative game is. So I kind of wonder if like a perfect dark game is basically just what you're saying here. I, God, I want it. I want it so bad. Imagine that rivalry, right? Like, next gen.

The rivalry becomes perfect dark versus agent. Like, from the two big console developers. That is the point of the initiative is Microsoft wants their own naughty dog. And they, like, got people together who were specifically, like, from Sony, San Diego, or Santa Monica, rather, and, like, other big AAA studios and Crystal Dynamics and stuff like that to make a big AAA game for them. In the vein of like an uncharted or a last of us. So if that is perfect dark, it is kind of what you're describing here.

Man, I want it. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been the Kind of Funny Games cast. Stay tuned for the post show. If you are a Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny Games supporter, we appreciate you and we will see you right after this.