Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Video Game Fantasy Draft 2024 - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

We Fantasy Draft our first five picks and counterpicks in Kinda Funny's BIGGEST Fantasy Draft yet! Run of Show - - Start - Housekeeping - The 2024 Fantasy Critic Draft - Round 1 - Round 2 ... - Round 3 - Round 4 - Round 5 - Counterpicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 What's up and welcome back to the kind of funny games cast. Of course, I am your host Tim Getty's joined by the new face of video games. Blessing Adio, Ye Jr. What's up Tim? Big Daddy himself, Greg Miller. Ahem. God damn.
Starting point is 00:00:22 The season 13. No, no, no, no, please read it. We made a trophy for this? Champion.
Starting point is 00:00:27 The fantasy critic 2023 champion, ladies and gentlemen. Right. Now, Andy, as I'm sure you're aware, when the team wins a championship to get the trophy and they get a ban. No, I'm kidding. the big dad himself, Greg Miller, of course,
Starting point is 00:00:42 the lock, Roger Percorney. Keep it locked. Keep it locked. The master hype snow bike, Mike. I'm on lockdown. What? The nitral rifle, Andy Cortez. Hello, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:53 A big cast today for a special episode of the Kind of Funny Games cast. We're doing our fantasy draft for video games in 2024. Should be a fun time for everyone involved. Of course, each and every week we get together here on the Kind of Funny Games cast. video games and all the things that we love about them. If you love what we do, please support us with a kind of funny membership on Patreon or YouTube to get all of our shows ad free. You can watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show or you can get
Starting point is 00:01:20 games cast for free with ads and without the exclusive content on YouTube and podcast services around the globe. Thank you to our absolutely amazing Patreon producer Delaney Twining. Today we are brought to you by Drafking Sportsbook, but I'll tell you all about that later. The topic of the show today. It's our 2024 fantasy games draft. Now bless Greg, Mike, Andy. We've all been a part of some of these in some way.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Never. Andy never has been. Really? I'm the games cast. Never. We didn't do it as Gamescast, right? It was PSI Love You. I've done this at one point.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Then it was Gamescast and that was Imron. Ah. Oh, okay. Remember when they were scaling on this show. We've done a lot of different types of these things over the years. The last couple of years have been a PSI Love U. Xcast focused thing. But we decided this year, we have a lot of people here at this table.
Starting point is 00:02:09 We have Barack Courtney and the ones in two. And Barrie Courtney as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's seven of us playing. Bless, do you want to explain what's going on? I want to have Greg explain it. Greg is a good explanation. I'd love to have Mike Eigny.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Nah, hey. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Kind of Funny Fantasy Critic, 2024. I will be playing for this trophy. All right. That is the 2024 trophy. Oh, wow. Remember, I have the 2023 trophy.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Got it. I'd order them at the same time because I forgot to order a 2023 one. Anyways, I died. If you aren't aware, ladies and gentlemen, there is a little thing called fantasy critic. Dot Games. You could go to it right now and sign up and make a fantasy league for you and your own friends. You could go watch our league if you wanted to at kindofunny.com slash KF League 2024.
Starting point is 00:02:52 The idea here is this is basically fantasy sports, fantasy football. Today we are going to draft a team of five games or six games? Five games to start. Five games to start. So we will go through all the games that are coming out in 2024 are in the fantasy Critic.com's database. We will draft all of these games, put them onto our own individual rosters. Once it's drafted, it cannot be drafted by another player.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And then throughout the years, these games come out and they get scored, we will then get points based on their performance. The idea is that for every point on Open Critic that a game is above 70, you get a point for your team, for your scoreboard. For every point below, you get a negative point for your team for your scoreboard. At the end of the season, of course, we'll go through and see who has won. but that's the idea. Throughout this,
Starting point is 00:03:36 it will be updating live, it will be doing its thing, the reviews post, it's up there, yada, yada, yada. There are a bunch of different things, but that is the base idea, correct?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah, I think you pretty much nailed it the overall. So I think some things I would add there is that today we're doing the five, like, first picks of our draft. There are 11 games total that we're going to have drafted,
Starting point is 00:03:55 right? We have 11 slots. Today we're doing the first five slots. There are six slots that remain after that. After today, once this episode of Gamescast is done, we've drafted our first five picks. you then have a budget, each of us have a budget of $100 that we can then go in and whenever a game is announced that we might have interest in,
Starting point is 00:04:12 if right after we finish this, there's like a game that's on the table still that you want to get, you then have that money to spend to then bid for that game and add it to your overall roster of 11 games. The way that the bidding works is that it is secret bidding. And so say tomorrow, Half-Life gets announced. And Tim and Roger are both like, oh, we want to get Half-Life. I got to add that to my roster. the bids the bids process on Saturday. And so both you have a chance to then bid like if Tim says,
Starting point is 00:04:39 oh man, okay, I'm going to bid $5 on this thing. If Roger also decides, oh, I want to bid for this thing, but I'm going to bid $10 because I want to make sure that I want to bid higher than what I think somebody might pay for this thing. If Roger has the highest bid by Saturday, that means that Roger gets that game and then Tim gets back his money.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Tim doesn't spend the $5. But then Roger does spend the $10 on half a half-off. And it's blind. So nobody knows what each other is bidding for. until the Saturday bid has processed, and by that time you have the game. Would I be able to see that someone bidded though? No. Okay. Yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And so it's the idea of, oh man, half-life just got announced. I think somebody might go for it, but I know I want it. And I think it's worth $30 to get it, even though I just have $100, I'm gonna pay the $30. Right? It's that sort of thing of you want to keep up
Starting point is 00:05:24 with what games are coming out. It's fun. Another thing I'll add are the counterpicks. Counterpicks are a big part of this. Big part. And we're adding in like a little tweak to it, this year. And so the way that counterpicks work is like Greg mentioned, each of us start this off by picking five games. There is a final last round of us picking games. Those are going to be our counterpicks. What those are, so like Greg mentioned, every point above 70, you get a point for that game.
Starting point is 00:05:49 If you counter pick a game, it works the opposite way, where if Roger picks, let's say, suicide squad kill the Justice League. I would know because he thinks it's going to get an 80 or something like that. If suicide squad, if I counterpick it, and Suicide Squad comes out, and it does get an 80. Roger gets those 10 points like normal, but then I get negative 10 points. I get the opposite amount of points. The idea, right, is at the end of this, when we pick this counter pick,
Starting point is 00:06:14 you're picking from the available games your other people have picked, and the idea is you're saying, I don't think that game's going to do well. You're gambling. But you think the game's either not going to do well or you think the game might not come out. You know, if a game doesn't come out,
Starting point is 00:06:25 then that lands it at a solid 70, which is zero points. And so if you think somebody's like bidding for Trent Doddo, 6 or whatever, and you're like, oh, that's not going to come out. You counterpick it and then you get zero points on the counterpick, which is good. So at that point, you're just doing that to make sure you're not losing points.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Exactly. It's a safe, easy thing to do. There's a lot of strategy. Okay, okay. Yeah. Because theoretically, maybe not, but we'll see. Last year when it was just banger after banger after banger, right? And we all had banger lists.
Starting point is 00:06:50 When you counterpicked, you're like, wow, fuck. Which of these games is going to perform the least great? So Janet ended up counterpicking Liza P. And that worked not earned a favor because that game ended up doing really well in Metacritic. And I think that's because Paris is, drafted Suicide Squad and she was thinking about counterpicking Suicide Squad and then we made her doubt herself. Yeah, we were like, oh no,
Starting point is 00:07:09 go for LizaP and then that did not work in her favor. The strategy here, if you don't mind me, I can remember, of course, is like, you might know a game that you think is awesome but isn't a big deal. You'd then have to get in the headspace of, well, well, anybody else draft that, right? Do I actually have to waste a, waste, in quote, a draft pick on something that I
Starting point is 00:07:25 think I can get away from bidding a dollar on tomorrow and getting it for. So here's another wrinkle to the counterpick. So we haven't had in previous years, but I am adding for this year, as your commissioner. When you counterpick a game, it locks, thank you,
Starting point is 00:07:37 thank you, I appreciate it. It locks that game in for that person. And so if Roger picks Suicide Squad, and I'm like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:07:45 I'm going to counterpick that, Roger can't drop that game. Oh. Yeah. And so Roger is stuck with Suicide Squad. The overall,
Starting point is 00:07:52 I don't like that we were putting Suicide Squad on me. I saw your list earlier. Every day tells me about Captain Boomerang. Every day.
Starting point is 00:07:59 This is what the drop rules look like over the year, right? And so there are, three games that you can drop that will not release in 2024. What that means is if a game you had, if a game you picked got delayed to like 2025 or beyond,
Starting point is 00:08:12 you can drop that game in part of your like three will not release drops, right? Either it gets delayed or it gets a date and the date isn't in 24. You can drop that game or you can drop three of those kind of games. You then get also one will release game, right? If you, it's the idea of like, oh man, I picked, I don't know, I picked a game that I thought I, liked, but then I see a preview and the preview's not glowing and I'm like, ooh, maybe I should drop this thing.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You get one of those that is coming out. So three games that are not coming out this year and then one game that is coming out, you can drop. Now, of course, we're in a privileged position. A lot of people who go and play this game as you should, and they're not sponsors, but maybe one day they will. You'd just be watching coverage. You'd just be doing these things.
Starting point is 00:08:55 The rule we've instituted last year and we will continue with this year is that if you are reviewing a game, like if I get a review code for a game I have drafted, I can't drop it. Right? Correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So once you get a review code, you're locked in where it is you, you're not allowed to bid for that game.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And then also, yeah, you're not allowed to drop that game. And that's like the gentleman's rule between us. Two more things I'll add, I'll add, going into the scoring system, right? So we talked about how every point above 70 is going to be a point for you. Once you get to 90, the points then start to double. And so it's the idea of if you, if a game scores. Oh shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:34 If a game score is 89 on Open Critic, that's 19 points because it's 19 above, it's 70. If a game scores, let's say, 92, you get 20 points plus four points. Because once you get to 90, it is the 20 points above 70. And then for every point beyond that, we're adding in two points. Damn. So you really want to, like, at the start at least, go for the games that you think are going to get above a 90 on Metacritic because those are going to seal you in. Blessing, where do we fall on remasters, remakes,
Starting point is 00:10:02 DLCs. So that's the next thing I was going to get into it. Roger, or Mike, what's up? I was just going to say, let's just like use Metal Gear Solid as a great example, you know? So this is how it goes, right? The website that we're using is fantasy critic. Dot games. They do a really good job of categorizing what game is like, what game falls in what category.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So we have a list of band tags. Those are games that we cannot draft. Games that are currently in early access are banned, right? If you can play it right now in early access, you can't draft it. games that are considered director's cuts are banned that are coming out, right? And so the examples that they give here are Persona 5
Starting point is 00:10:40 Royal, they consider Royale, no Royal, they consider a director's cut, and then Super Mario 3D World, Bowser's Fury, they consider a director's cut, and obviously like the PlayStation games that come out with Directors Cut, I assume they also consider that. Fucking nonsense. Next one, ports. That's pretty straightforward. If the port of a game
Starting point is 00:10:55 is directly coming into another console, can draft it. They have Doom 2016 for Switch for Switch or Death Stranding for PCA as an example, Next one, games that are already released internationally. Those games are not eligible. And then last one are remasters. Remasters are not eligible. The examples they give here are games like Gears of War Ultimate Edition
Starting point is 00:11:14 or The Legend of Zelda, Winwicker, HD. Those are the only banned tags. That means remakes are eligible. To your question, Mike, yeah, if a Mel your Solid Delta is on your list that you want to draft, that is 100% eligible. DLCs and expansions also eligible. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Love it. So it's based on the rules of how this site defines those things. Yes. And the thing is, when you're in the back end as us drafting today, if this is your first time, you will see it'll say available or it'll say not available or it can't, like, it'll identify. It won't let you draft one of the games that's banned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Okay. So if you were like, I'm pick it and you clicked on it and it was like, oh, you can't do it. It would tell you. It's not like you're going to waste a draft pick on it. I think that's pretty much it. I guess the last, we talked about trades. So we already talked about trades. No, we haven't talked about trades.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I think that's the controversial one. from last year. There's no controversy there, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know when this happened, but we were all kind of informed about this. And I looked at Tim and I was like, why, when there's always something shady happening with some sort of competition, Greg is always the main reason for it. Literally don't hate the player, hate the game.
Starting point is 00:12:18 That's why. But what happened? I won, of course. Literally stop being a hater. Last year, Mike doesn't pay attention to the rules. Gets all mad when he can't pick his games. I pick the games I want. I win. That's how it is. You know what it is? That's the thing. What are the rules like trading? So the trading is allowed. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Last year there was a scandal because there's one Gary Whittah who, you know, maybe doesn't pay attention to this game. Or actively care. Or actively care. And so Greg saw that Gary woulda had Starfield on his roster. Greg said, give me a bunch of V bucks. And I'll give you a bunch of V bucks if you let me log in. Greg went to Gary and was like, oh, Gary, I'll give you 50 in-game dollars.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And then I'll also promote your book on one of our shows. If you give me a star field. Book Gundog that's available at kind of funny.com slash gundog right. Oh, that's surreal. I was joking about a bribe. You did a great job with that. Not a bribe at all. It all happened on stream.
Starting point is 00:13:09 It was a very negotiated. It's a documented bribe. It was all perfectly illegal. You want to change it now. That's fine. I murdered the guy on camera. I don't care. Like that makes it okay.
Starting point is 00:13:23 So as commissioner, I am the one that approves trades. The rule that I am instituting for trades is that it has to be game for. game. Or it has to be something like, it's got to be happening in the machine. It has to happen in the machine. No favors allowed. You're not going to be, you're not allowed to be like, oh man, yeah, I'll give the fucking sure off my back if you give me Spiral the Dragon
Starting point is 00:13:40 remake or whatever's coming out. Sure. There was no quit propo. This is political persecution. I was thinking the same thing. I don't I get to it. We're not allowed to trick gullible people and if you're here, don't be gullible. All right? Money doesn't get you points. Mike. That was Gary
Starting point is 00:13:56 Winner. I'm just make sure everybody knows how the game is. Mike, if You just start getting free burgers. Nobody can say to me by that. Who's to stay where they're coming from? So how do we've been watching Roger's smile. Dude, I, it's so hard. Mike's been doing his homework alive on camera.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And then he's also breathing so hard. So loud. Thank God you can hear me breathing. Thank God you can hear me breathing. It is surely impossible not to laugh. It's a loud breathing mixed with Hello Games New Game. Yeah. He wrote down, he just wrote down in front of me.
Starting point is 00:14:30 He's like, what's the name of the game with everything in it? You know what game I'm talking about, Chad? Oh, man. This is going to be a fun year for my. You know what game it is. It's not the game you're thinking, but it's the other game that you're thinking. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 So we have, what, we have seven participants, each with, each with our own publisher, right? So going down the list, we have Raj former with A-Lo-free games. A-lo-free. A-L-free. We got Tim Gettys hashtag Let Tim Publish We got Sad Boy Barrett with the CEO Juniors. We got Blessing Adioia Jr.
Starting point is 00:15:07 With Samurai Hypothesis. It's a ninja theory thing. Love that. Love that. Thank you. We got Andy Cortez with Nitro Rifle Games. We got Greg Miller with Ahem.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Sorry, we have kind of funny fantasy critic champion, 2023, asterisk. Greg Miller with Acto 1 games. And then we have Snowbike Mike with Team Snowbike Mike. It was a deal so dirty. I drove Janet out of the company.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Easy branding. So the way we get started with this is literally like the, I have a button on my screen. He goes first. Uh, no, random. So, you can do it manually. So maybe you do it. I could do it. Why do you put champion first as you should, then do yourself because you're awesome.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And then roll dice for it. Why would it be championship? Uh, why would it be champion first? Usually it's like the person who had the, the loose amount of points. Yeah. Why are you appreciative of us including you? All right. Keep pipe down.
Starting point is 00:15:55 All right. The Super Bowl winner picks last in the jazz the next year. All right, so I'm gonna click the button, the random button to organize. It's gonna say great. And this is what your official order is. God, I'm so excited. Starting off, we have Sad Boy Barrett. Following Barrett, we have Tim Getty's.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Following Tim, you have me. Following me, you have Greg Miller. Following Greg, you have Snowak Mike. Following Mike, you have Roger. And following Roger, you have Andy Cortez. It is a snake draft. And so once we get to Andy, Andy then has two six, and then it comes back around.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I'm feeling very confident. Yes, last night in the car, on the drive home in about a three-hour traffic jam, I felt like, Barrett was like, you're ready for fantasy draft? And I was like, you just reminded me that's happening tomorrow. And also, I went seven in seven
Starting point is 00:16:39 in NFL ESPN fantasy football. Nice, all right. Yeah, I missed the playoffs by a bit, but I'm feeling good. 10-7. Last time I did a Fantasy Critic League, I didn't win it, but I was in second place. Someone would say I'm a contender.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Great fucking story, you loser. All right, draft is on. Starting off, we got bare recording. Imagine I got to refresh. There we go. There we go. So what do I have to do on my side? Just be there.
Starting point is 00:17:07 It should automatically start doing it. If you're logged in the website. If you refresh, it goes, draft is currently in progress. I can also draft the game for you. The first game that I'm going to draft is metaphor refantasio. My God, this kid's on.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Don't listen to them. Don't tease him like that. I could have picked it up for 50 cents later. Or you know what? I will say that I will say that was high up in my list Yeah Metaphor is being made by the OG persona
Starting point is 00:17:42 Team or at least the team that worked on Persona 3, 4, and 5 They left or kind of like made their own studio Shortly after the release of Persona 5 Still under Atlas With a new team making a new IP for Atlas They've been working on this for like seven years or something like that
Starting point is 00:18:01 And this is the team that came out with Persona 3, 4, and 5 and Catherine in the middle of that all in a row. This is a team not to be trifled with. Oh, it's a good choice. Yeah. Very good choice. Next up, Tim Geddes. What is your first?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Quraft. So, DLC counts. Like an Eldon Ring, Shadow of the Earth trick. Oh. Yeah, I'm doing it. It wasn't going to make it to you. You're at the bottom. Start figuring out.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Eat the fucking dog food. You're not getting anything good. Get ready. The rules are you have to have to. Play it if you pick it then. Oh, I can add it for you. Click on that button there. Yeah, draft game.
Starting point is 00:18:36 There you go. And then you should have your list too if you've made a list below it. Oh, you can make your own? Yeah. What did Nick say? When you go through the watch list and you start adding stuff, you don't make your own little list. And then, so if something horrible happened and somebody you had ordered it, you could leave
Starting point is 00:18:51 and then it would auto draft off that. Oh, I see. I see. All right. I'm up next. This is more fun that I thought it was going to be. First of all, thanks for agreeing to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:01 There we go. ESPN Jeff. Blessing out of you is on the board. Busting open a cider real quick. Do it. A little sip of courage juice, you know? 100% West Coast apples. I am drafting Microsoft flight simulator.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Fuck you. 2024. God damn. Good call. Good call. Of course, I had like some of the bigger games of the year or more hype games of the year high up on my list. But then as I started doing my research,
Starting point is 00:19:29 one of the things that I had to look up was the previous Microsoft flight simulators, Metacritic. And on Metacritic, Microsoft Flight Simulator has a 91. Yeah. It was a very high score. And 2024 looks like a step up. And so I think that's a very safe pick of a game that's going to do incredibly well. It's wild that those follow-up is coming out this year when it feels like that one came out literally like six months ago or something.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You're not worried that this is about jobs and activities as opposed to flying the world. Have you thought about what? Have you thought about it in your head? The world's no one getting in your head. Do not let him get in your head? Do I need to open last year's results and show you snow bike mic second to the basement? Just being aware of what you're getting. 64 points.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Listen, blessing, I'm an impartial person right here, and I think he's making a great point. He's making a great point. I think I'm impartial right here. I think it's partial. I think climate change is affecting air travel from here on now. There will be a lot of these flights grounded in the future. It'd be hilarious of like Microsoft Flight Simulated 2024 simulates the actual like air industry currently where everything gets fucking delayed
Starting point is 00:20:31 in the airport with the third pick fight breaks on the plane and fourth pick first pick third fourth pick in the fantasy draft 24
Starting point is 00:20:41 I'm picking Final Fantasy 7 rebirth damn that means I get yours I mean we don't have to talk about how great the first one was of course on open critics the critics recommended with a 95 if I can get even close to that
Starting point is 00:20:53 I'll be sitting pretty that's top critic well yeah how does it go is it top critic average or the I can never remember Critics recommend Oh, top critic average So it's an 88.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Gotcha. If I any of you ain't close to that, I'll be doing good. How the fuck do you pick it? You'll see it up at the top. Oh, okay, cool. Mikey? Team Snowbike Mike on the clock.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Thank you, Greg Miller, for leaving the door open for me. I will select the DLC that everyone is anticipating one Andy Cortez. Eldon Ring. Shadow of the Earth Tree. That was already fucking drafted, Mike.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You're fucking stupid. Didn't hear it. What? You were telling me it's on. gonna talk to me. Didn't hear it. I apologize. You know what?
Starting point is 00:21:33 We'll go right to my cat. You said it wasn't to fall to you anyway, Andy. He's been here out with Nick way too much, man. You fucking shit talked to Andy when Tim drafted it. Your last place, Bobby. He's not jabbing it. You know,
Starting point is 00:21:50 you got to sometimes think on your feet. And unfortunately, you got to go back to the board now. He's back on gamespot. dot com. You thought the door was open, but it was shut closed. Go back to the board. Yeah, why you mean? It's my pick. You're going to share
Starting point is 00:22:07 do it. Blessing, will you please select for me? Polly Knight's Silk Song. Oh, good pick. Good pick. I've redeemed myself. No, you're still an idiot. Hold on. I'm looking for it. I love Alex in the chat. That's all he had.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Again, he started researching this when the show starts. Incredible stuff. Is my turn? Yeah. I'm still trying to get Silk Song for Mike, but you can talk. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Hey, everybody. Roger here for ALO free games, and we are going to be drafting for our first game. Ayo free games? No, it's a alo. It's like more where I'm like the, you know, no, it's a meme.
Starting point is 00:22:50 It's like, it's like, it's like, oh, okay, got you. No, so I got it's sad. You're good. Sunua Saga, Hellblade 2. Oh, that one. That one's gonna be a banger. I'm thinking above 90.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Above 90. Really? Above 90. I'm so hopeful. I just feel it. It just feels in the air of like a critic darling that it's going to just fucking destroy. How do we feel about that? Are we on that vibe?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Do we think that Hellblade 2 is going to be above 90? Yeah, so 100%. I don't think it will be. I don't either. I'm going to guess 86. Yeah, I'm thinking mid-80s. I think like the long wait for it has also kind of like put it up against like a really tough battle when it comes out. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I'm going for... I'm hopeful, but... I'm going for a surefire above 90. It's Ninja Theory. The previous Hellblade was like, was special. But I also think... I've had so much done. When you talk about the previous Hellblade,
Starting point is 00:23:40 you're talking about like really cool technological stuff that they're doing with like the binoral audio stuff going on. Really cool commentary on what's going on in Cineua's head with the voices and like the depiction of psychosis and all stuff. And then like a really cool integration of FMV. I think that plus you put them under Microsoft and they have that backing in budget. And they've had the time. to work on something. I think Hellblade 2 is going to come through and blow people away.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Absolutely. Let's go. That's what I'm hoping for. You're going to draft this game for Mike? Did I think I did already? Yeah, he did. Thank you. Yeah. I drafted mine too. I think the website's being a bit. Yeah, I crashed on me in the middle of that. I'm up today now. Mike looked at me again and he picked that. Insane. Didn't hear it. You're the only one that talked about it. Like, you're the only one that added commentary to that. Andy, you got two picks back to back. What What are you feeling? This is a big moment. I'm going to go with one that, I feel like, previewed really well.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And similar to, like, flight simulator, where it's, like, they're in that realm of games or, like, the people that review them are going to love them. And I think Tekkenate is going to be very highly reviewed. I'll take Tekkenate with my first pick. Good pick. Take a tech and need it out of you or do you are going out of yourself? I don't know how to do it. I got you.
Starting point is 00:24:50 All right. But, like, that's me, right? And it stinks back to me, right? Uh, he has a second pick. Oh, sorry, my bad.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Got you, got you, got you. Wait, I just added it for you. So I'm picking again, right? Yeah. This is so tough.
Starting point is 00:25:04 There's a lot of big names out there that I feel like are kind of uncertain. Um, a lot of good games. I'll tell you, a lot of good games. Um, damn.
Starting point is 00:25:21 A lot of good ones. This is going to be, this is a fucking Hail Mary right here. Future shot, baby, throw it. It's a fucking Hail Mary. and I hope they don't let me down.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I'm going to say Star Wars Outlaws. Whoa! Wow. That's a rough one. Kid Believes. To hail Mary. The Hail Mary, man.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Come on, Ubisoft. I need it. Come on massive. Come on massive. Pop off. Come through. All right, I've added it. What the fuck? That's your notification.
Starting point is 00:25:53 That's the draft notification. I'll mute it. I'll mute it. No, don't. It's nice to know. It's nice to hear. I'm scared. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 00:25:59 my turn. Hi Roger. This is a game that people really like with an expansion that's coming out this year that I think the fans are going to like. Final Fantasy 14. Fuck! Don Trail. That's what I'm going for. You're in my head already. I already got you.
Starting point is 00:26:13 You and I. I'm typing it in right now. We're the only true key to peditors along with Greg. Thank you very much, Barrett. Would you believe that Star Wars outlaws was near the bottom of my list? It's not even on mine. Like, I want to believe. It's, I mean, for multiple reasons, right? Like, unknown quantity.
Starting point is 00:26:28 We've seen one demo that looks. great, yeah, of course. But, okay, that's one thing. Also, then, do we believe it's this year? Like, games get delayed all the time, you know? All the time. I'm also, it's been a while down. I'm going to go down and be like, what do I need to do to finish this, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:43 It's been a while since Ubisoft is like, we need a sleigh. Give it like a critical darling, except for Prince of Persia. That just happened, right? But I feel like that's like a- riding the ship. It's also just been a while since they've released more than like one or two games in a year, you know? I feel like they got to make that bet this year. I don't know, that whole
Starting point is 00:27:01 demo did not impress me. Yeah. It was fine. Mike's going to step up and be like, I'm drafting Star Wars. Hello, everyone. Jedi Survivor. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I appreciate the time on the podium. I am looking forward to a lot of games this year, and I have a couple that I'm looking at. Okay. He's filibustering. What shall I select? A lot of games.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Him look at me in the eyes because this pick, I need you. your help. Oh, help. Is it left or is it right? One or two, Tim. You get to pick my pick. Go left. Hades two, please bless you. Oh.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I'm going to go with an unknown. I'm going to go with a possible. Okay, hold on. The other one was for sure. That's why. This brings us to one of the rules, right? So Hades two is slated for early access this year. The rule that I have on the draft is that if it gets a score on open critic, then it counts. And so you just need enough reviews to get a score on open critics. And we did, we did some research. It is kind of like a hit or miss situation, right?
Starting point is 00:28:04 Like Valheim, a game that is in early access, has reviews and has an open critic thing. Arc does not. Like, so it is kind of like whatever is in the year, right? Like how long is it? The original Hades when it was in early access didn't get reviews until it was fully released. But also that game was, you know, not an unknown quantity, but wasn't Hades. We make a selection now since this happened last year with Ballard's Gate in a different form.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Did we say it's on the table or off the table? Hades. All of us are here. Oh, it's on the table. Well, it's all the table. The thing with Barter v. It's literally on your table already. And I shall take Hades too.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah. Yeah. But to be clear, the Ballardgate 3 thing was already out in early access. That's why you couldn't get it. Well, I'm saying it's a similar situation. No. Similar situation. I don't know if it is.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Similar situation. Similar ballpark, I would say. Same a situation. Same but different. All the things are happening that are all. Alex. Thank you. This Ballagate Gate 3 was out for years.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It was. Greg Miller. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to welcome to Ecto 1 Games Publishing. Paper Mario. Fuck you. Good for you. No!
Starting point is 00:29:10 So fucking close. Is that not just a remaster, though? It's a remake. Really? Huh. Look at that. Good for you, Greg. I did remake 2D games.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I don't know. Go ahead. Go out. All right. That brings it to me. And Paper Mario was my next pick. Gotcha. Since that was taken,
Starting point is 00:29:31 don't do it, bless. Why don't I say that? We're going with Earthblade. Okay, cool. Yep. Take it. That's a cool game. That's the upcoming game
Starting point is 00:29:37 coming from the developer that made Celeste. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're going to kill. I think that's a surefire bit. All right, Tim, we're back to you. Ooh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Rolling the dice here a little bit in terms of will it release, but I believe that it will. Unannounced mainline 3D Mario. Oh! Wow. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I was going to go for the one-two punch of Paper Mario and that. That would have been great. But yeah, so I'll stick with that. Mario 3D platform is my first one. Cool. I've added it from. Oh, wait. And we go to bear it.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yeah, yeah, okay. Let's see. Draft game. What's your level of confidence for Mario coming out this game? 90%. Really? Wow. You think there's a Switch 2 launches with 3D Mario, and I think it'll be.
Starting point is 00:30:28 You don't think that they would try to kind of like, coincide it with a movie a little bit more. Like maybe go into next year and kind of have the gap year and then 2026 is the movie. I think they got the vibes going. They're good with the movie. They just need to keep putting things out.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I do have another thing. I'm not going to say yet. Oh. My fear of Mario is that the Switch comes out or whatever the next Nintendo console comes out in 2025 instead of 2024. Like it becomes a spring thing the way that Switch one was.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'm really feeling 2024 for Switch. I hope so. I think it's a big. question of will there be a 3D Mario? But I think the Switch is this year. I'm feeling it. My next pick is going to be Persona 3 reload.
Starting point is 00:31:10 God damn it. Good for you. God damn it. Doubling down on Atlas. I think they're going to have two big bangers this year. Persona 3. I've talked about the Fez re-release from PS2 in my persona, every persona game ranked. I think it's a very special game
Starting point is 00:31:26 and I think the kind of premise of, yeah, I'm just updating this game and getting more of the modern sensibilities from Persona 5. I think it's going to, I think it's going to pan out, and I think a lot of people are going to fucking love it. My next pick, hold on, let me take a time code because I'm taking time codes for each round. What a nice gentleman you want. So we're doing 31-43 here. My next pick after that for round three is going to be the rise of the golden.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Oh, you motherfucker. What did you do? That was literally my next one on my list. I thought nobody else was going to get it. What is this game? This is the follow-up to, I believe, the curse of the golden-old. Yeah, and so this was a very beloved game, I think, two years ago. The case of the Golden Idol.
Starting point is 00:32:13 It wasn't like a huge hit of just like everybody talking about it, but the people that did talk about it. It was like a game in the year contender. Giant Bomb, I know, like a lot of people over there really loved it. And so I think this is going to be even like a step above of what people already liked. so. Damn. You just fucked up my whole flow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Good. I thought that was going to be like a, for sure. Nobody else is going to get that. Yeah, I've never heard of that. We got gamers out of here. All right. I'll be gaming. Here comes to him.
Starting point is 00:32:43 It's hard, dude. Real hard. It was going to be easy. First off, he thought this wouldn't be fun. Secondly, he thought it'd be easy. Yeah. Completely doubt. Have a great time.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Get in the bed. I mean, so far, I'm kind of crushing it. Okay. Yeah. my shit is not refreshing. You were right, though, great. This is where the strategy comes in.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah. Because it's like, do I go for the easy wins or do I go for the deeper cuts that I know y'all motherfuckers are thinking about? Do your homework. I'm going to go. I got shit. Metal Gear Solid Delta.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Interesting. You're confident that comes out this year. Mm-hmm. Okay. I'm not. Really? You said Meliger Solid? So I guess there's one Meliger Solid come up here.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Have they said just like 20, 24? or as like a slate in general. So the thing is that they've not, but PlayStation has. PlayStation had like a sizzle rail of like 2024 games and all of the games were 2024 games, but then they also had Meligier and Silent Hill too. And so people are saying,
Starting point is 00:33:49 people are thinking that like maybe. This is the same company that in 2020 said goodbye Volcano High would be a launch title. So just a heads up on that. That's fair. That's fair. All right. It's my turn.
Starting point is 00:34:00 What's you going to do? With all that junk. I was hoping it wouldn't come of this. Black Myth Woo Kong. Oh, okay. This one is like, there's a lot of question marks
Starting point is 00:34:13 attached to it. Lots of question marks. A lot of question marks. This is a game coming from a developer that we've not like, seen release a big thing before. But it also looks incredible. Like people are comparing it to how like God of War 2018 looks, but also, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:26 like it has the, it looks like it has like the soul's like kind of combat of a Sekiro. And yeah, like there's a lot of hype behind it. And it has a date. I think that's a big thing for me is that it's not just slated for 2024. It has a date, I believe, in August.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And so that makes me feel a bit more comfortable about the idea of it actually coming out. And so I'm going for it. All right, my turn. Hey, just Greggy. I'm looking. I'm thinking. You know, you got to make your right.
Starting point is 00:34:55 You got to make the educated picks here. This is a suicide squad. Dude, I think about it sometimes. Yeah. Not like, you know. I have a little fun. I think that's a game. It's a great gamble of like what would happen.
Starting point is 00:35:07 You know, I mean? You know, the expectations are so, you like, So low. I love content. I think that would be kind of a good match for you. Got it, got it. I think we roll the dice and see who takes a gamble. No, not we.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Greg. Greg goes to dice. I think that'd be fun. Mainly, I think there's still so many great games out there, but now you get into the, well, who's going to draft that before me? What is the one that I need to draft is at the top of the list? It would actually make things matter for people.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Who is at the top? You can't read this. You know, I should just like to look. I love that Roger. Keep saying, you can't read my list. We have the exact same list. You win the game in former 2024. Like, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I'm on the same list as you watch, Tony. You ain't got no special picks, Roger, that I don't know about. I got some special picks. This one. I'm waiting for somebody to say something. To say a game. And I'm like, who's going to do it? Because I'm kind of scared.
Starting point is 00:36:01 You say that, I'm going to kill you. I don't even know what you're talking about. I think I know what you're talking about, Andy. I think I know. I don't know if I know what Amy's talking about. I think I know. Does it start with an A? What?
Starting point is 00:36:14 It might. It could. Will it range it? Does it start with an R? There's a big R word. A R game. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I am going to continue believing. To continue believing. In remedy games and go with Alan Wake 2, Night Springs. Wow. Okay. Wow. Interesting. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Oh. Interesting. I'm not getting... I'm cheating off as though. Yeah. No. Mike gets on leaning over and look at my... You're going to take the other Alan Wake here?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah. Yeah. That's not my turn. I don't know. We're talking about what we're talking about. Wow. You're sure. I'm surprised that this fell.
Starting point is 00:37:00 So far, I know it's, you know, maybe we're a little bit hesitant on it, but big RPG. We're riding the high off of Ballard's Gate. We're not going with Dragon's Dogma 2 over here. I'd like to select Dragon. Dogma. That was the one.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah, I am surprised. I knew that that's what you were thinking of. I heard a great preview from an upcoming games journalism nominated Forbes 30 under 30. Then it was like, oh, it's a pretty good PS3 game. So I don't think that's going to review. Wow. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Okay. Well, but I did come out of my preview being like, oh, I think it's going to be fun. I think a lot of people are going to like it. I don't know if it's going to be a metacritic. That sounds like a 77 to me. But I feel like it falls in that area of like, Dragon's Dogma 1 fans are going to be the ones to review it and are going to fucking love it. Question for you.
Starting point is 00:37:43 It's like a very nice sort of family. I don't think you'd get away with that one. Really? Yeah, I think more people will come do with that. You know what? In March, we'll find out. We will find out. What's your score?
Starting point is 00:37:51 77. I'll say 77. You say 77. So anything above 77, I win. Yeah. All right, deal. We buy each other in and out. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I love eating with you, big dog. Have a nice lunch with Greg. Love that. All right. My turn? Yep. I am going with hotly anticipated new IP
Starting point is 00:38:08 from the development First, Shovel Knight. Okay, cool. Visions of Manna. Oh, that was on my list. That was on my list. Yeah, wait, shovel night? Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Right? You're thinking about it. I don't know what it was wrong. Who am I thinking about? I mean, no way. It's a draft. You're not. Visions of Manna.
Starting point is 00:38:24 What? Visions of Manna. Oh, sorry, sorry. I read the wrong one. Mena the Hollowers, what I meant to say, completely confident if they're the wrong one,
Starting point is 00:38:31 but I'll do either one, fuck it. Did you draft it? No, I didn't press anything yet. Damn. And I just gave it out. Are you doing me, I'll do Mino.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Well, I fucked it up, but it's okay. Mina comes up. That's a good pick, Raj. Thank you. That is a good. I mean, both are good picks, but I played it at one of the, was it, GDC, I believe. There it is. Good time.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah, sounds right. Is it my turn? Yeah. Yep. It was the last pick for round three. All right, gamers. Here we go. I'm going with this sequel to a game that I feel like nobody played, but it reviewed real well.
Starting point is 00:39:09 The sequel to the first game was a PC strategy game. This is called Frostpunk 2. Good for you. It's a great one. Getting off the beaten path, I like that. Frostpunk got an 84 Metacritic. I feel like this is just going to be lessons learned. And let me know when you're ready for the next one.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm ready. The next pick. Shit, I just fucking had it. Oh, very highly reviewed when it came out. Oh, 85. Pretty good. And this is the remake, Brother, Tale of Two Sun. Oh.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Oh. Oh, I was on my list as well. Great ball. Really good one. Really good one, yeah. No. Of course, that's, you know, the beginning of Joseph Ferris and all that jazz. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:51 So, like, you know, you figure you have all this audience now that knows it takes two game of the year, winner, right behind that, a way out. A lot of people did enjoy to go back, have that remake, have a way bigger footprint for this. And also, I believe the meta-critic. Yeah, the meta-critic is really good for that. And I think if it's a remake, it's only going to go up. All the way up. Before we move on. Remember, you can become a kind of funny member.
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Starting point is 00:41:30 Continue. No, he said both. No, yeah, it's Roger. That's my term. Oh. Okay, everybody. I say both. Continue.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He's hanging to Roger. You really get right at him. Look at right at him. Tim. cheating off his list. You're close. The Switch 2 is coming out in 2020. He's going to do it.
Starting point is 00:41:54 But it's not launching with the Mario game. Traditionally. Launching with Metroid Prime 4. Wow. Metroid Prime 4 is going to be the visual delight of the Switch 2. He's so angry. He's walking off and I bet he brings me back another beer. That's in my fantasy draft board.
Starting point is 00:42:10 He brings back. Greg a beer. I think that game I don't know if it comes out on both, but I think it is going to be coming out on the Switch 2 this year and it's going to look fucking incredible. See, I almost feel like it's a safer bet than Mario. That's for the fact that I think it will come out on both because Nintendo announced it for Switch
Starting point is 00:42:25 and I don't think they'll leave Switch behind. But also, I don't think you put out a Metroid Prime for like years down the line and it also put out for Switch. I think if it was going to come out, it would make sense for it to come out. It'll be in the launch window. Yeah, that launch window and be a cross-gen title like Zelda Bethlehem. And especially after Metroid Prime remastered, remake or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like them kind of bring you back into the zeitgeist and being like, hey, this is a cool franchise, right? Everybody, you guys are excited? Okay, boom, Metroid Prime 4. This is what this can be in the next generation. It's also been a very long time since they put out that video. 2019. Is that the one they doubt's the reboot?
Starting point is 00:42:55 Like, they're like, oh man, the way it's going currently isn't working out. We're starting over. We're going on five years, January 25th. I feel like that's enough time to make a Metroid. Yeah. All right. I dropped it. Back to Team Snowbike Mike.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Really excited about this pick. It's going to be a strong one. I'm something that. Everybody's talked about. All you little cutie gamers, Andy, really are looking forward to this one. A little cute. And we've talked about it.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I'm surprised Tim Geddes isn't here for this big monumental pick. Yeah. It's the Plucky Squire. You missed out on history. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for this one.
Starting point is 00:43:29 We're finally feeling good about this. 2024. This is going to be a special time for all of us. I think a lot of people are going to play this. They're going to be yapping about it. They're going to be talking about it. I'm going to score points. I was on my list.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I had it on my list, but I still have that. out if they actually hit this year. It's always so tough, right, when you have these games, especially these indie games that look great, but it's like they keep getting delayed. It's what's going on, yeah. Whatever happened with Gunnbrilla?
Starting point is 00:43:51 It was just fine, right? It was like, it also came out in the midst of just like everything else coming out during the fall. So, yeah. And I think back to the other Devolver joint, the black and white samurai game that largely missed for me, which was like two years ago. Yeah, I just feel like there haven't been as many
Starting point is 00:44:11 sure fires that I assume would be amazing, you know? Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. What I missed besides Metroid Prime. Lucky Squire, I'm like, ooh, okay. From Mikey. I was expecting a little more of a response from you, Tim, but okay. No, no, no, no, it's a good call. Very, very, very good call.
Starting point is 00:44:26 He wanted you to be here for the announcement of it. He said it was a monumental moment. A big pick. Pretty big pick. Greg Miller. He's thinking. Samurai hypothesis definitely opened up for Lincoln Park back in the day. Again, it's that question of how much longer can I get away.
Starting point is 00:44:52 You know, some of my picks here. I think you cannot, if you're feeling that, you do not let it waste. Like, you have to let it sit there. Yeah, because the thing about it this way, Greg, you only have two more picks. Including this one? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Shit.
Starting point is 00:45:08 How fast it goes. Don't fuck it up. Fuck, it's a tough one, guys. There's a lot of great games on here. How great will they be? That's the question. you know can they land the plane they've wowed us before they've done the thing before then you go to some of these well this could be an unexpected contender you know what do we're gonna do that
Starting point is 00:45:38 don't like it i don't know i don't know you got it feel you're not no i don't know because this is where you want to you want to put out the cool exciting stuff but then you just want the points too you want the points i mean i'm already champion what i have to prove i got to retain it all right yeah exactly i'm coming for you i just want to be back to back like exactly right double banners in the guy. I'm going to toss. I'm going to do it. I'm going to pick Visions of Manum.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And off like, from Barrett. A game that I think is not the most exciting, but I think is going to get me points. You know what I mean? Tell me about this one. This is the, go ahead, Barry.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So, yeah, this is from Square Enix. This is the first manna game in like almost two decades. Okay. And I do think it's a really solid pick. It looks really good. It looks very, like, Dragon Quest Like modern Dragon Quest like 11
Starting point is 00:46:29 Like inspired in terms of visuals And all that And I think you don't bring back this franchise Unless you got something good up your sleeve So I think this is a really solid pick from from Greggie Yeah Thank you. Love you Our style looks really good
Starting point is 00:46:43 Like really really good Yeah I'm up next And I think last year when we did the draft I put a lot of my eggs in the basket of Team Ninja being a banger developer. And they put out Wolong Fallen Dynasty, and I think that was met with a lot of like,
Starting point is 00:46:58 oh, it's cool, it's fine. But checking the Metacritic for Wolong, it's sitting on Metacritic at an 81 for PS5, which I think for this draft is a good place to be, right? At the very least, like, but Wolong Fallen Dynasty got me points. And when I think about this year and Rise of the Ronan and what that is poised to be, right?
Starting point is 00:47:14 Like, you're talking about Team Ninja doing the Team Ninja thing. It's going to have great action. I think it's going to play like that, but then also has an open world that is going for like the Assassin's Creed's of the World, world. That plus the fact that is being published first party by PlayStation. I got a lot of confidence
Starting point is 00:47:28 slash hope in this thing and I think it has a big, a good chance of being a banger. And so Rise of the Rona is my next pick. It was on my list. It's another one where I like, I want to believe. I want to. It sounds awesome. I want to play that game. Gettys.
Starting point is 00:47:46 So my question is after this episode we get five new picks, right? Six. Six. we can do them at any point yeah you can see i mean like i picked my last game to try to beat janet in
Starting point is 00:48:00 November and it worked by the way but i mean like you can do it literally right after this episode i could literally that's what right now if you if you had if a lot of people do that they'll fill in their entire thing they'll go like yeah paris did it last year for like a buck because i have one that i want to put on that i don't think any you guys will will think of so i don't want to waste my spot so it's a good
Starting point is 00:48:17 talking about peach put it in your back pocket you save that you put it in your back okay okay good good but you deal if that's the case um My next pick will be one that some of you might take from me, blessing. Oh no. Penny's big break.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Ah. Wow, I was looking at this one. On the team behind Sonic Mania. I was looking at this. It is like essentially all the talent there. There's a lot of different devs and people working on that game
Starting point is 00:48:43 like from separate studios. This is kind of all of those working together for the first time on their own game. From the ground up, everything we've seen looks and sounds fantastic. It has the makings of, of an amazing 3D platform for the people that love them. So I think it's going to review very well.
Starting point is 00:48:59 All right, it's been added. And I really hope it does. It's been crossed off my list. All right, hold on. Let me take a... Oh, wait, no, it's still technically round four. All right, for my second to last pick, let's go here. Let's pull up my list again because I lost track of it.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Oh, but it's already right here. We're going to go with Unicorn Overlord. Nice. Vanilla Wear. Yeah, we're going vanilla wear. I know Blessing really loved 13 sentinels, Aegis Rim or whatever the hell is called, right? Yeah, it was close enough.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Okay. 12 sentences? Literally, this was on my list above Rise of the Ronan, but as you got there, I was like, nobody's going to pick Unicorn Overlord. There's no way. Yeah. I remember how much you were into the last Vanilla Ware game,
Starting point is 00:49:47 and I think they're a solid enough director that I, like, or team that I think it might not be like a huge scoring game, but I think it'll give me a least. If you remember, when 13 Sentinel's Aedist Room came out, and I think it might have been 2020 or something like that. Like, critics loved it. Like, everybody was like, yo, this game is incredible, the storytelling's next level.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Like, I think on the critical side, vanillaware games hit for people. And you look at that trailer and it's like, yeah, this looks like something that the fucking nerds are going to love. And so I think that's a really good pick. Thank you. Thank you. Great pick.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Let's take a time code for round five. our last round of picking our normal roster here before the counter pick round. Oh, this is an interesting spot to be in. I didn't expect y'all to have visions of mana on your radars like that. And this is the last round, so I'm just going to start talking a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. Phil at all you're thinking out.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah, so like I'm thinking like, Roger, you love little nightmares, but now it's a different developer. It's a different deb. It's co-op to That's on the list. Yeah. Skate 4, where the fuck is that game? That's not right now.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I mean, you keep on seeing videos of that and it's like, that's early. I'll tell you, man, Ben shoots on a scooter. And we take him to the skate park and push him up the thing and bring him back down. I pick him up, I grind him on the rails and shit. And like, every time I put it back down and does the click, I'm like, God, I want a fucking skate game so bad right now.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Come on. Just do it. Somebody say it? I think. I'm not the most confident in it, but I know when it got announced people were super fucking stoked for it. We're gonna go with Tales of the Shire.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Oh. So this is the... The Cheeby, friendly, you're like living in the Shire, right? Yeah, Cozy. That's what I'm gonna be. Yeah. Good pick. I can see it reviewing well. Yeah. Or getting forced. Yeah, I mean, that's the Lord of the Ring Rub.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yeah. All right, we're back to Tim. Oh, that can't be right. Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah, okay, cool. Oh, damn. You got Snakes.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Man, I was playing this wrong here. You got Snake, dog. Fucking got miced over there. Let me tell you about Holland. Untitled Machine Games Indiana, Joe. Oh, man, dude. Oh, man, I'm hurting. 20-24?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah. That's what the rumors are saying. That's what you feel in your heart. I really do. Look inside you right now. Mm-hmm. Wow. Feels right.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Look at machine games. Look at the cadence. of their releases. Yeah, it adds up. They announced this game years ago. Yeah. It's happening. We're seeing it tomorrow. Two days from now.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Two days from now. Two days for now. Tomorrow for the podcast listeners that get this on Spotify. Thanks for your support, not. So it's my turn. Yeah, I was like Borat. And between Unicorn Overlord and Indiana Jones,
Starting point is 00:52:45 I have now been put into a corner where the rest of my games are all tosses. Never put bless in a corner. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Because, like, there's this game, Mike. called avowed. Woo,
Starting point is 00:52:57 man. That like, you know. Big gambles, what I call that one. Is that, does that, is that,
Starting point is 00:53:04 is it slated? No, right. It's not an official date but we're all, we're all predicting this year. Is it part of the Xbox developer director? Correct.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Put it on the fucking pizza bed calendar. It's 2024 on their steam. I will bet you come on their steam. Oh, it's happening. It says 2020. It's happening. It's happening. It's happening.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Yeah, this team. I'm going to look up. Do you believe in this game? Out of Worlds. And Mike does not want. I'm gonna go. The Outerworld's Open Critic has an 83,
Starting point is 00:53:31 which is good, but is it a banger? Like, should I spend my last... I guarantee you you have something better there. Well, here's the thing. I have something that I think if it does come out this year, it's going to be a banger. But the question is, does it come out this year? Because I'm looking at this game called
Starting point is 00:53:45 Dragon Quest 3 HD 2D remake. And I think the streets will fuck with that. Heavy. Excuse me? They will. Dragon Quest 3 is going to HD 2D. but aside it doesn't have a date yet that's a good call
Starting point is 00:53:57 you know you know in your heart there's also this game called Undernight in birth two just fucking stop naming I'm gonna go avowed fuck love that try and get in this head I wanted a vowed really good
Starting point is 00:54:10 I love outer world so much I just like I would have chosen even if I knew it was gonna be an 82 like I just love that world so much dude that's points bro that's points all right next up is this Ecto 1
Starting point is 00:54:24 thank you that's me hey everybody's Greg Your friend. Your champion, too, I should say. I'm sorry. Something Roger will never be, and he'll never understand the weight of the pressure. I'm going to take that for me.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I guess I get a different trophy, but I'll take that one. We'll see about that. Ladies and gentlemen, is my last pick? Yep. Yes. Yes, before the counter pick. A complete steal, I'll take Like a Dragon, Infinite Wolf.
Starting point is 00:54:47 It's one of those games, of course. Yaku's in general, huge. Like a Dragon. We all fell in love with on Xbox. Remember I was playing it over there. now they have the Animal Crossing in there. They got the Hawaii in there. They got the, all that shit, Brittany looks.
Starting point is 00:55:02 They got all the stuff people are freaking out about. You know what I mean? There you go. Yeah, the previous one was in 86. I think this will go up. I think this will go up. Again, more than ever. I know it personally.
Starting point is 00:55:17 You can't say you don't like these games. You say you don't like these games. People get all pissy here. You know what I mean? It's true. Here it is again. We'll all convince ourselves. Doing this again is a great idea.
Starting point is 00:55:26 You know what I mean? Damn. Wow. That is such a statement. Who's up next? The co-op duo. After I've looked over Rogers' list. Yeah. As one does.
Starting point is 00:55:47 After you said that, you wouldn't look over my list. Well, it's just like, Roger, we're not going to pick the same thing. All right? Look at my list, far superior compared to your list. So don't worry about it. The chat will vote on that. Comments, let me know. Of course. They will be you on.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I'm excited to look this one over and it's a tough one. You know what I mean? Tim, let's play the game again. Left or right? It's tough. Go right. Left again. Left again.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Go with left again. I'm going to stick it with my guy. Mr. Paris Lili. He's been saying it for years. Replaced. Please add that. Oh. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:20 That's a good one. Thank you. I'm excited about that game. That is currently slated for the second half of 2024. No way. Take the dice. Roll it. I think I'm going to gamble.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I think I might have counterpicked it last year, or at least I was thinking about it to counterpick, because like, Paris said it last year, I was like, I don't think that game's coming out. And I'll still say it. I don't think that game is going to. I don't think it's coming out. We still don't have the night before or whatever, and I know that's rife with controversy, but like... That's a different thing, though.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Never came out, though. Last year you did in fact... Wait, are you talking about the day before? No, he's not... The night... Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I don't know. The one that looks like replaced. It was like... It was the one that came out and then it was like, that game looks awesome. And the next day, they're like, wait, we found a tweet where he's like,
Starting point is 00:57:01 women, why? And there was like, why? Fuck, and then it was over. And I think he lost his publishing deal on the idea, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Wow. Hope that doesn't happen to replace. I just had a lot of shit there. I hope that's not my game. Yeah, it kind of opened up a, the last night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:19 All right. My turn. Elo Free's games, last drafted game. I know. A. Lalfrey. And I'm thinking I'm going to take
Starting point is 00:57:30 probably something that's on Andy's list. Hyper light. Oh shit. Which I am, that's not okay. It is insane that that wasn't taken a little earlier from you, Andy. It is wild. So yes,
Starting point is 00:57:43 that's why I'm drafting. Hyper light breaker. I've never played these fucking games. But I just know that Andy likes them, so I'm taking them from you. That's so fucked up. Wow. That's real fucked up.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah. I'm going to be reviewing that game. Be like this game sucks. shit final one a lot of options a lot of options a lot of great options
Starting point is 00:58:06 hey I'll give you one yeah tell me because I know you won't let's have a little fun why don't you pick Bulletstorm VR that's a great one let's roll the dice
Starting point is 00:58:15 let's really let's put it on for the I was on the list I have one that I want come on the list but I have a feeling that when it comes out it'll be good
Starting point is 00:58:23 but it's going to play like shit and that's it got delayed a whole bunch so I'm not going to pick that That one. Okay, okay. But the one that I am going to pick was already mentioned earlier.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Oh. Because it's initial, the first version of it was 82 on Metacritic, and that is Undernight in Birth 2. Oh. Okay. Celeste. Yeah. I got an 82 last year. The sequel's coming out this year.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Sequels coming out, I think, in a matter of weeks maybe? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be another one of those that the hardcores love it, and hopefully nobody else Okay. Oh wait. I forgot. I forgot I'm picking your game story, Andy. So, sorry, what was your first one?
Starting point is 00:59:07 That's it. I don't have a snake. You're right. Yeah. Final one. Wow. Undernight Inbirth. Okay. God, I had another one today. You go to the big board. You drafted later. Was Hyperlight breaker? Yeah, I know. I know. No, I'm like, was that on your list?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Here's a thing. Picking Hyperlight Breaker is like It'd be like picking a Dallas Cowboys player on my fantasy football team It's like I'm worried that if they do bad and if the game isn't good I'm gonna have a double negative Yeah
Starting point is 00:59:40 I'd rather an opponent have Hyperlight breaker be like this game kicks ass That's fucking go Even though Roger gets points where I'm happy that it's great You know Okay I respect that. Fannity sport Fannity yeah
Starting point is 00:59:52 I feel at this point It's time for Andy to do his counterpick But it might be helpful if we all went through and read our current roster of games. That will also for the listening people. Right now they're driving a UPS truck. They're like, I'm having a great time. But I can't write all this. What?
Starting point is 01:00:04 I start off with this encounter. I got to deliver with this. Yeah, that's that it works here. Huh. According to you. So Barrett will start with you. The CEO juniors have drafted.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Metaphor Refantazio, Persema 3 reload, the rise of the golden idol, Unicorn Overlord, and the one that y'all are making me starting to doubt now. Tales of the Shire. Oh, my Shire. What's the fucking franchise, Andy? Lord of the Rings game.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Bus, you only have four on your list, or maybe I had need to refresh. Yeah. Timothy? I have. Eldon Ring, Shadow of the Erd Tree. Unannounced mainline 3D Mario Platformer. Middleger Solid Delta Snake Eater. Penny's Big Breakaway. And Untitled Machine Games Indiana.
Starting point is 01:00:47 That's a banger list. I know. I'm feeling good, guys. But remember, this is the story with Tim's last draft where he drafted a bunch of banger games that none of them came out. True. Yeah, and I can see none of these coming out except for Penny's Big Breakaway.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And that's what I love about it. Because remember, again, like, when you get it, except for that. I'm worried about that. About Penny's Big Breakaway not coming out? I feel like that's, yeah, way more likely than any of these other games. I love when you get into this because now you get into this game of, ah, shit, well, I don't know if this game will be good,
Starting point is 01:01:15 so maybe I'll counterpick that or it's the, well, I don't think this game will come out. But it's like, imagine being like, I don't think the unannounced mainlined 3D Mario platform. And then it comes out. Like, fuck. That's game. Hang up. Next up is my list.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I got Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024, Earthblade, Black Myth, Woo Kong, Rise of the Ronan, and avowed. Gambles, but like, safe. I'm honestly, I'm not feeling that confident in my own list. Wow. A lot of days before we end this,
Starting point is 01:01:43 so don't worry about it. Act O'One Games is next. That's me. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. Paper Mario, the 1,000-year-door remake. Allen Wake 2, Night Springs, visions of mana, and like a dragon, infinite wealth.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I like my list a lot. Yeah. I only two is the only one where it's like, I don't. I could see that at worst, I could see that giving you only like a couple points. I don't know if it's going to lose you points. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And you can take it to the bank on that. 10 points. There's points. Yeah. And paper Mario, Greg, like, that's going to be a bang.
Starting point is 01:02:10 That's going to, I think that it has potential for 90 plus. All right. Wow. Wow. You're going to give me some, right? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:02:17 sure. Sweet. Up next for team snowbike Mike. Hollow Knight Silk Song. Hades 2 Dragon's Dogma 2 The Plucky Squire And Replace
Starting point is 01:02:29 We'll see Okay And ALO free games Getting worse every time Halo free There it is Every time I have to read it I'm just gonna point to you
Starting point is 01:02:40 And you just have to say And this is team captain for Halo 3 Number 1 I did Sinua Saga Hellblade 2 Final Fantasy 14 Dawn Trail Mina the Hollower Metroid Prime 4
Starting point is 01:02:50 And Hyper Light Breaker Pretty happy with him Hyper Lake Breakers kind of the is that come out this year, I don't know, but yeah, I'm happy with this list. Nitro Rifle Games. Tekken 8, Star Wars Outlaws, Frost Punk 2,
Starting point is 01:03:05 Brother, A Tale of Two Sun's remake, and Undernight Inbirth 2, Sis Celess, with brackets. For some reason. And they got a colon in there, too. It's a lot. All right. I have to pick a counterpick.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You counterpick now, a game on there that you think won't come out or won't perform well. And again, once you counterpick, It has to be somebody else's game. And when you counter pick it, that locks their game in for them. So they can't even drop it. Is there a positive to picking something that won't come out?
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah, then you'd be guaranteed zero points. Oh, okay. It's no longer the gamble of getting negative points. So then they're guaranteed zero points. And then you, okay, I don't know. And it lost a choice for them, right? So, like, they can't add other games. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I like that. Hmm. Mm-hmm. This is real tough. I'll tell you what. I will tell you. would. Oh, howdy.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Um, watch that Jody Foster. Oh. I need to watch you. You like it? No, it's real good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:03 But Jen has, I went to click on it and it started and it was like sitting there. I was like, oh, it's like, Woody Harrelson. I was like, oh shit, sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I started season one episode one. Ah, HBO, our max. And Jen's like, I've never seen this. And I was like, oh, what?
Starting point is 01:04:15 I'm like, we are watching that. But then we jumped into this one. And this one's like, as a fan of the show, kind of like a, not a departure, but like, Like, have they always been supernatural?
Starting point is 01:04:24 I'm like, no. Like, I don't know what the fuck's going on. I've heard it's very scary. Okay, hold on, hold on. Everybody chill out. Everybody chill out. This is real, this game's hard. You guys play this every year?
Starting point is 01:04:39 Yeah. Yeah. Wow. We live for this. I am going to, fuck, man. This is so tough. Holy shit. Sorry, y'all.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I'm going to say, that Tales of the Shire is just mid I'm not even confident in that I'm not even confident in it I guess there's other ones on there that I'm like
Starting point is 01:05:11 I can't guarantee that they won't come out I think these are all going to be pretty decent games and that is the thing where it's like a lot we're into a part where it's like well these are all good games like what do you do I just think like I'm more confident in like Tales of the Shire more so than like any of us ever were for
Starting point is 01:05:29 Gollum because that was like once a game about Gollum and two like how do you make Gollum an interesting platformer adventure game kind of thing. It's not even that for me. It's the crafting game with all the doors in Lord of the Rings, one that came out last year. Oh, yeah. That was the, that they're kind of like Minecraft crafting survival game and that got like a 70-something. Okay. Yeah, that's a fair pick.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I think they'll know their audience though with the cozy type of shit. All right. Next up is I love for guys No Aloaf That is Oh it is
Starting point is 01:06:05 I tried to help you Ah shit I can fill time Yeah yeah Yeah yeah Yeah My other favorite one Was I drafted
Starting point is 01:06:11 I forget what game it was I drafted And then when I interviewed The dev They were like Yeah it's not coming out This year I was like
Starting point is 01:06:16 And I had I DMed fantasy critic And I was like Hey so this is still listed But it's not a 2020 I'm like I interviewed the dev Like who are you
Starting point is 01:06:24 I'm Greg Miller Here's the fucking thing You're the goddamn thing Let me drop it I am I am going to be picking. Mike actually picked out something else from his list that he said
Starting point is 01:06:34 you should counter this one. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you. But I'm actually going to counter Dragon's Dogma 2. Ah, that was one of them. Yeah, I did that. That game looks fun. I think you're going to do it yourself or sure.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Oh, I don't know how to do that. I can do it. Thanks. That's a great call. He said, Dragons Dogma 2? Yes. I have faith.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I'm excited just to make a character and live in a magic world. I don't think Capcom can do wrong. Like, I think the fact that it's a... Plus, let me introduce you to the 2010s. Okay. No, I mean, like, I don't think modern Capcom can do wrong in a way where I think at the very least this game is going to come out and be great.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I know if it's going to come out and be game of the year. That's why I didn't have it on my draft list, right? But I think I think this game is going to probably at least get like an 80. Yeah, the issue is my projected points. If you click on that, that's my highest projected point total out of all my picks. Don't listen to the project. That was like a big. Don't think that's based on you made.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I think that's like based on popularity. Like how many people that are doing this are picking that. Just letting you know. Don't listen to that. Let me know. let me know he just let me know but i told him to pick replace it was only minus four you know it'd been better uh i'm gonna go over to rogers list here because i was gonna go with tales of the shire so that's a great selection there from my friend andy i'm gonna go with i'm gonna hope that this game
Starting point is 01:07:47 doesn't come out oh god hyperlight breaker oh wow that was on my list thank you i think that's a good that's a good that's a good strategic my thing is that's coming on early access this year and there's a good chance that it just doesn't get enough reviews to make it on top of it. Now you're trapped with it. And also, I'm really looking forward to that game.
Starting point is 01:08:06 That game looks like my type of shit. But I played Solarash, and I didn't love Solarash. And so I'm like, if this is them in their Solar Ash bag, then I don't know. Me and Bless, no. Me and Bless, get it. Smart. Around the same.
Starting point is 01:08:18 I was just trying to fuck over Andy. That's my, that was my whole thing. Wow. He would do that. I don't even care about the game. I can't wait to play. It's going to be good. It's going to be real good. It's me. I'm looking at it. a million of things.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Watching Greg watch a trailer. I'll talk about it. It's like I remember Penny's big breakaway. Yeah, pick that one, Greg. You'd know that one ain't scoring well. Let's be for real, Tim.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Penny's big breakaway? I know that. I know. It's the main team, right? Yeah. And that's my thing where I just wanted to look at it everybody. You can't leave shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Keep looking. Yeah. I go for it. And everybody close. They don't know. I'm just looking. I wanted to see it. I mean,
Starting point is 01:08:54 my heart is saying replaced. I'm not clicking on it yet. Well, because then I get into. to the other thing of like, I do not for a second believe we're getting Metal Gear Solid Delta this year. Yeah, that was going to be mine. But again, you're in the exact same situation of I can, how much do I feel it? Do I want to risk this glorious trophy? You know what I mean? I think it's a nice of the older public situation though, where like PlayStation announces a remake
Starting point is 01:09:15 and then it just goes nowhere. No, I feel like this. It'll come for sure. Roger, I'm doing a thing right now. I let him pick Melier Solid. I think I should definitely pick Metal Gear Solid. I feel like Silent Hill 2 is even more of a gamble than that than Delta. I feel like Delta, they're like pushing hard. They're like, this is happening. My thing with Delta goes back to the conversation of there's not Kojima on it. And I think there's like a fan perception of Kojima is what makes Metal Gear, right?
Starting point is 01:09:38 And so it's going to come out and it's going to be a thing of, oh man, it feels a bit like, it's lacking something. It doesn't have the special sauce. It's Meli or Saul 3, but it feels void of personality. You know, are they going to be able to get those quirky Kojima moments in there? Like that's fucking insane. To counterpick it, I'll counterpick it. I'll counterpick because I don't think it's coming out.
Starting point is 01:09:55 It does come out and just underperforms. Yeah, right. It's 77. Metal Gear's solid fucking three. That's valid. I think that's very valid. I think it's a... I think it's akin to like watching a remake of like a cult movie that came out in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And like it's like, well, you have to be there to get it though. Like now it's a different thing. I think it's beyond that. Like I honestly think that the Metal Gear is more mainstream gamer than we think it is. And my friends, all of my dumbass friends played through the Metal Gear franchise. They love three. They don't know who Gujima is.
Starting point is 01:10:28 They don't even know his name. They've never heard it. They have no relevance to that at all. I think that Metal Gear means a lot and it's going to do very well, whatever, but the reviewers are the ones reviewing it. And like how are they going to review it? Is it going to be like the conversation of like,
Starting point is 01:10:44 yeah, this is a solid enough update to an already great game and like we're also taking into consideration in the base game, or is it going to be just purely off of, like, what, what this did as a remake? This also isn't BluPoint. Like, this is Virtuiz who hasn't done a project like this before, right? Like, they've done, I think, ports and remasters, maybe? They did, um, I think they did the return to Arkham, uh, remaster for asylum.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Should I play those bad? But, like, we're in the golden age of video game remakes. Good to know, good to know. And you're telling me that they're working on a Meliger Salt 3 remake, like, one of the most, I'll say revered games of all time in my heart. in the same era we're getting Reson Evil 2 remake, Reson Evil 4 remake, right? Like getting remakes that love, getting Shadow Colossus
Starting point is 01:11:27 and what Blue Point's been doing. I don't know if Meliarsaw 3 remake is going to hit on a level where we're like, oh, this is as good as the blue points and other things. But the game's that good, though. Like, that's the thing is like, I feel like the story and characters and boss fights and all that. Like, they're that good in the way that Shadow Colossus is that good. Like, you're so right.
Starting point is 01:11:44 You're bringing up the boss fights right now. I was just like, oh, fuck. Like, that's going to really kind of have like a massive impact. It's going to be RE4. Yeah. But here's my fear with it is that Shadow Colossus remake, for example, being done by Blue Point, who didn't have Uaida on the team, right? At the very least, Shadow Colossus is so straightforward enough of a game that I think
Starting point is 01:12:05 you can remake every aspect of it and it be like, oh, this is exactly the same game, and it's incredible. Mell Your Solid 3, I think has so much narrative and character and so much going for it that, like, one, I think if you're virtuous slash Konami and you're adding an Easter eggs to it, right? Are those going to hit? Do you have the freedom to even do that, right? Like, are people going to judge that harsher? But then also, yeah, like,
Starting point is 01:12:26 are you going to be able to capture a lot of the same goofiness? I think if it's a one-for-one remake, that's cool. But it's also Melius to Salt 3, which I would want more out of at the same time. I think it has a big challenge ahead of it. But isn't the base 70? Yeah. It won't be lower than it's 70.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yeah, but, you know? I'm trying to make an argument to Greg, because, again, I won't replace. Yeah. I hate it. It's rare that you get to a video game moment in real life. Where it's do I hit, you know, extra circle. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:59 And it's like this will then, a year from now. It's rare that you make a choice in real life. Well, a choice in Madicals. Jen's like, you want to have a kid? I'm like, you know what I mean? Whatever. Look it up. I don't like them.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Big deal. This reminds you the time that like me and Roger were doing an AMA. He was out, the question was like, how a video games affected you? And like in a positive way. And he was like, uh, you know, there's times while I'll be in my room and like, I'll hear something happen in another room and I'll be like, oh, that was behind me. Nice. And I was like, so like just spatial awareness.
Starting point is 01:13:32 He was like, yeah, because of call duty, like when somebody runs behind you, they're behind you. And I was like, Roger. God bless you. God bless you. You got to get outside. You got to get outside more. It's really good, though. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:13:44 Like, you drop a pin over there. I know it's over there. You might think it's like over there by the fridge. No, I pinpoint that shit right there. I know. Real-life app moses the live-chatter comment of the day. Holy shit. Real good.
Starting point is 01:14:00 God damn it. You should do it. You should do it. After all that, I'm just feeling replaced. But it's like, that's got to come out this year, right? And it does look cool. It does look cool. I've been burned by good-looking video games before.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Good-looking indie games that come out and they play terribly. Replaced is going to be this year's seafood. Oh, right. Okay. Not you're just being careful. No, real talk. Problem with replaced, I'm so stocked, stoked. Stoked, I've never seen a game look that cool
Starting point is 01:14:26 before the other one that looked like that. And I just don't think you'd be a good game. Exactly. That's where I meant. It was a game that's a side-scrolling fighter brawler. There's so many games like that. And those played great. Castle of Prince of Persia just fucking came out. That did play great.
Starting point is 01:14:46 No. Really? I mean, I think it'll be fine. That's a toss-up between and replaced. All right. Like, replaced coming out. It's like, I don't think Metal Gear will come out. But if it does come out, I think it'll score 80s, low 80.
Starting point is 01:15:00 And that's just 10 points. Yeah, me too. I don't know we had that much time. It's crazy. Replace. We're making the fucking content. All right, motherfucker watch time. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I don't give a shit about any of this. I've never cared about winning. But replace is like, could it be a darling if it came. I'm with you. Yeah, but you look at it. Could be. Yeah. But I think that's like a five.
Starting point is 01:15:22 percent chance. And I hope I'm wrong. Great call from Encamber. Replace is going to be this year, Somerville. Oh. Summerville didn't have combat. Wow. I'm going to go replaced.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Damn it. Great to love. Good for you. That is my counterpick. Thank you everybody. Fuck in. Go for metal gear. Paris, just so you know, Greg Miller.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Doesn't believe in you. Doubted you. Oh, I'm really upset about that. I don't like how the liquor's paid this year. Point blank period. Do yours. Do it. I'm embarrassed, Lillian.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I got a deep voice. Um, uh, listen, I got 75 points in fantasy critic last year. Did he win? No,
Starting point is 01:16:04 Greg doubled that to be me. What is this? And Paris had Spider-Man 2 on his fantasy draft as well. Who's up? It's me. Oh. What are you thinking,
Starting point is 01:16:19 bless? What are you thinking? I'm thinking a lot. And if anything, what I'd like to do for Paris Lilly is remind you that, Like, he went the wrong way with it. Where last year you can look at Paris's thing,
Starting point is 01:16:28 and he drafted Spider-Man, Final Fantasy 16, Alan Wake 2, Phantom Liberty. In order that got him 21, 18, 19, 19, 19. He then did replace, and that's the five he would have had. He then immediately went, remember, and bought these games. Assassin's Creed Mirage, Stalker 2, Heart of Chernobyl, NBA 2K-24, Atomic Heart, Minecraft Legends. Those got him zero, six, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:16:52 it would have been six, zero, negative two, four, zero, and then he never filled his last two spots because he's a quitter. Sit on your, sit on your thing. Don't rush out there and do all this. I'm going to rush. I got one. Especially because we barely know what's happening after March. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Oh, you don't? This is what I have. No! Because here's the thing, right? Is that the one that you, here's the thing. Because Andy Cortez mentioned earlier, right? Like, if you're doing a fantasy critic, when he's doing fantasy or not, but you see football, that's why it is.
Starting point is 01:17:24 You know, you don't want to draft a Cowboys player because then it's like, oh man, it's double whammy when they come out and they fucking shit the bed. There's a game here that has a very good chance of not coming out. And if it doesn't come out, then, like, yeah, it's going to be a great pick for me. But also, in the small chance that it does come out
Starting point is 01:17:42 is going to fuck me. But if it does come out at the same time, I'm going to have a great year, right? Yeah. That means I get to play this game. That game is Metroid Prime 4. Oh, Metroid Prime 4. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Like, is that game going to come out this year? Let's be real. You're dead, motherfucker. It's over for you. It's over. You just fucking signed your check. You're done. He hasn't picked it yet.
Starting point is 01:18:01 He hasn't picked it officially yet. I just picked it. Wow. I selected it. You just signed it, everybody. He's done. It comes out this year. That means I lose this fantasy critic, but I get a Metroid.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Pretty great. Which is pretty great. I like that. Win, win, I love that mentality. I'm with that. I think it's very unlikely. It comes out this year.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Like, very unlikely. Nintendo follows no pattern. WNDs. Metroid Dred came out 12 years later whatever the fuck. It could happen. I just don't see it happening.
Starting point is 01:18:32 That would be so wild. But they made Zelda with Breath of Wild being a launch title like, oh shit, here's the biggest moment Zelda ever had. For me, it's like, so I was talking to a few gamer friends, right?
Starting point is 01:18:45 But they're not like super hardcore like us, right? So then immediately we start talking about the Switch 2. Oh my guy's probably coming out next year. And they just looked to me and they were like, what can they do better than the Switch one? And I was like, that's a good call. Like, I feel like a lot of the normal switch players don't understand what games could look like potentially, right?
Starting point is 01:19:01 Like how far we can push this console. And I think they need something first party that is going to push that. I think Metroid Prime 4 is the perfect one. You see a trailer for that, you're like, Oh, is the Nintendo game? Exactly. See, I don't think it's the visuals.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I think it's the fun. And that's why I'm surprised no one said Mario Kart. Because I think that Mario Kart has a higher chance at being a launch title than Metro Prime does. but I also don't think it's likely Yeah, I was I was thinking about Mario Kart a lot Tim and just in general Yeah, just in general
Starting point is 01:19:32 Not even about the draft Yeah, I'm just like if I'm not playing it You know, I get like the Tetris effect Where I'm seeing the carts drift in Seeing Rainbow Road Yeah, seeing Rainbow Road all the time Somebody cuts them off in trapping He's like 250cc right now
Starting point is 01:19:44 I feel good about a Switch 2 coming this year There's something That's making me doubt a Mario Kart launches with the Switch 2 for some reason. I don't know why I don't have a good reason. It's just a gut feeling. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:58 So, yeah. I think that the thing also is trying to strategize the switch to in your head. Because, you know, you mentioned, like a switch to you coming out with Metroid.
Starting point is 01:20:08 That's a Benger game. Like, that's a Benger Showcase title. But does it sell units is the question? Metroid doesn't sell as well as Mario or Zelda or Pokemon or Animal Crossing. And neither did Zelda, though. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:20:19 But Zelda sells better than Metroid. I know, but like, not that much. Like, and sure, okay, that sounds stupid now. But now the breath of wild changed the game. Yeah. They could do that again.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I don't know with Metroid, with Metroid, though. I think the other thing, though, is that. Metroid's cool as fuck. It's a female protagonist in a dope-ass power suit. People want to like Metroid. Do you think they're going to recreate Metroid with Metroid Prime 4, especially because they're calling it Metroid Prime 4, whereas, like, Zelda gets the advantage of not numbering their shit.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Do they? I mean, do they call it Metroid Prime 4? You know? Metroid Dread is not Metroid 5. That's fair. I guess in the title screen kind of is a little bit. But my thing also with the Switch 2 is that, let's say Switch 2 comes out and there is a 3D Mario there, right?
Starting point is 01:21:00 Like, do you package it in with a launch 3D Mario and a launch Metroid Prime? No. And probably, like, maybe a Mario cart or like some other thing. No way. No way. I think you hold Metroid Prime. I don't think, I think if you have Mario, you launch with Mario and then you hold Metroid Prime for the spring after.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And I'm also still of the mind that like I think Switch 2 could come out next spring. Like I'm still not sold on this fall yet. everything I said just goes against what I said earlier in the show. It's hard, man. Disregard, everybody. Yeah. Yeah, this is going to be an interesting year.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Interesting year. Is it. Am I next? Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're up to me. Oof. Big moves you made. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Mm-hmm. Were you going to do, Metroid Prime? Was that your plan? Yeah, it was. And replaced. And Dragon Sagama. All the ones I wanted to do are done.
Starting point is 01:21:45 haters. Mm. Haters gonna hate. All right. Allows is there. Yeah. That's a great. Hollow Night is there. You know,
Starting point is 01:21:53 Hollow Night, they promised Xbox said, hey, it's going to be out in the next 12 months. That was a lie. Well, maybe they didn't tell Xbox that. Maybe Xbox just fucking said that. There's no way that this team's going to release that game. You know, we still don't know about Black Myth Wukong. That's a great one. Yeah. That's what Roger was trying to do. No, truly.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Like, that's a great one. Yeah. I mean, I, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's going to come out this year. Is it going to be... Coming out no matter what? Nothing stopped this one. Have you seen the trailer for Black Myth Will Kong? Yeah. It looks like an impossible video game. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't look like a real video. But I feel like we've been talking about this game for a long time.
Starting point is 01:22:24 People have been talking. That's the thing. It's like it's been... I feel like it's coming out this year. I don't think it's below a 70, though. But maybe. What if? I think it looks more good at that.
Starting point is 01:22:31 I'm between two. I'm between two games that I want to be very good. So I'm hoping they're not bad. But Star Wars Outlaws and Hades 2. Hades 2, my question is, does it come out and get enough reviews? I'm worried because the first game didn't. the second game will. Yeah, that's where I'm at with it.
Starting point is 01:22:54 But again, it's like, it's one of those weird things. And we were talking about this when we were kind of looking it up in the history of it of like, if it's only the first, because Greg, correct me if I'm wrong, because I remember, you opted into the Hades early access for the first game, I remember. That's me. Download the epic game. That was only the first, like, chunk of the game. It wasn't the full game, right?
Starting point is 01:23:14 Right, yeah, that was their early access thing. And it was like, it wasn't the Hades people knowing love now. To think about it this way as well, right? Where it's like there's early access games that do get reviews, like what are some of the games that Mike and Andy and Nick play, Roger that we were talking about? Oh, like the arc and stuff like that where there's so much game. And like even though there's like maybe there's technically more,
Starting point is 01:23:36 there's so much to experience. Whereas like Hades 2, if they only release the first chunk of it, are outlets going to feel confident enough to actually review that early? I think you get a lot of just its preview coverage. Yeah, I think so too. As much as like I think this is a much different known quantity than Hades 1 was, this is obviously like, holy shit. The sequel to one of the biggest indie titles of all time, I think it's just a lot of preview coverage is similar to when we see even when like games and service games come out and it's review in progress. We're not going to put a score on it quite yet, but this is in progress.
Starting point is 01:24:13 And those are like for games that are officially out at 1.0, you know? I don't know if it's true, but like you I hate saying it, I'm going Star Wars Outlaws. Wow. Wow. Listen, this draft is going great. I got this in the back. That was going to be my pick. I think that's a solid pick to me.
Starting point is 01:24:33 I think, honestly, I easily see Star Wars Outlaws coming out and people enjoying the story enough, I do kind of worry about what the structure of that, quote unquote, whatever the open world, that massive is going to try to make for a single player game and just like tech-wise and gameplay-wise, like that preview did not do anything for me. And I like action-adventure games.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I fucking love Star Wars. And I'm honestly, I was surprised like the reaction some of you all had when that game was revealed because I don't have a lot of confidence in it. I don't think it's an under-an-80. That's the only thing like I was confident in it. Like, I can't see that game.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I see that game getting a lot of eights. And I could see it getting a lot of sixes as well. Really? I think, I think that game, see, at the end of the day, hits at like a 75. I view it as like a UBS. And this is based off of one trailer, you know. I mean, I think this game is a UBsoft is like all hands on deck.
Starting point is 01:25:29 This is the most important thing that we're putting out right now. Right? Like, I think it's, it's, Star Wars, it's a huge IP. This is a version of UBisoft that is tightening up like the types of games that they're making, right? Like, they've had multiple, like, reports about, hey, we're just going to do Assassin's Creed and our big IPs right now. You know what you could make that argument for, though?
Starting point is 01:25:47 what's that avatar because avatar property and what what did avatar top out at 72 and that's what people hate avatar though and Star Wars games not making them people want to like no people I feel like more to the criticisms personally that I heard about Avatar
Starting point is 01:26:03 was the ludonarrative dissonance with a lot of the gameplay structure and like that's way too into the weeds of it but that's people reviewing the game though but who didn't play the game because they don't care about Avatar I think that's the bigger thing is like when we think about how well the game's going to do overall.
Starting point is 01:26:19 And like even talking about the reviews of it, like Avatar reviewed well, I would say. I think I'm at a 72 on Open Critic. But that's what I'm saying. But yeah. But like. The fact that the games is a service game, the Division 2 is an 82 overall. That's where I'm at. And this is the division team with a lot more knowledge of like, think back to some of those
Starting point is 01:26:39 single player missions or not even single player missions. They were multiplayer, but like there was some shit about Joe Farrow. There was some shit that like really wowed me in the division two. And like, I just, I'm confident in that. I'm not saying Outlaws is a guarantee. We risk our life for New York and now you're going to come in and take it as a fireboy. I think it's a smart pick because I can see it easily being a 75 and then at the most you lose five points.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I do think it's massive though. I think that is the big difference is it's massive. And I do think Star Wars is bigger than Avatar in a way where as Uwisoft. People want to like Star Wars. Yeah. Like you, as UiS. I think you put way more resources and like focus into making your Star Wars thing pop than an avatar thing.
Starting point is 01:27:15 For the Avatar, I think it is like a, hey, yeah, do what we do with Far Cry, make it bigger, make it polish, make it look gorgeous and put it out. Star Wars, I think, is way more of an important thing. You think EA would have thought that too, and then they released Star Wars Battlefront 2. Yeah, but then they released Jedi and Fall in Order. And I didn't see them, I didn't feel the marketing push with Avatar at all. Like, I didn't feel like they were trying to show that game off everywhere.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Slip it in right here in December. And that's why I was surprised that it was as good as it was, because it did feel just like a skull and bones. rush that shit out, put it out there. We got to just, you know, we have a contract to a... Yeah. Like, I do think there's a reality you're right.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I just think with it being massive, it being Star Wars, Ubisoft being where they're at, I think that this is, they're putting it all here. And like my, the reason I pick this is I think it has a better chance of not making it this year than it has a chance of not hitting an 80 at least.
Starting point is 01:28:09 But I hope I tend to agree with that. I think it comes out this year. I think it's pretty great. I do think it's pretty great. I do think it's, I'm not surprised us a little bit. That's a big risk. It's a big risk.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah. I mean, either one was a big risk, right? Hades 2 and... Mm-hmm. All right. The Barrett? No, right. This is what I'll say for you.
Starting point is 01:28:29 The Rise of the Ronan looks pretty trash. Star Wars was going to be my pick. I didn't think Tim was going to... Tim was going to go that route. Let me look. Let me look. Indiana Jones? Does it come out this year?
Starting point is 01:28:43 The streets were saying Indiana Jones this year. Yeah, I think the... Yeah, but the streets change, you know what I mean? The streets change, they go left, they go right. But also the streets are saying that... Exactly, think about that. The streets are saying that the developer for Indiana Jones hasn't come out with a game in seven years or so.
Starting point is 01:28:59 The streets are saying that. They're doom, man. If Marligea hadn't hit a home run in two games, I'll like, here comes one. Here's going to go. His one's about to fucking knock a hole in. This is tough. I love the Mark McGill.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Great, let me tell you. I played the last Undernight in birth. Who was all right? It was okay. Let me look. Undernight in birth. It was okay. Undernight.
Starting point is 01:29:26 I'm gonna look at that. I think it probably has like an 82 on Medicaid. 82. Yeah. Damn. To go down. Fuck. But that was probably under night,
Starting point is 01:29:33 undernight in birth, like unicleer. I don't know if that was undernight in birth one, you know? Unicleer, man. Uniclear is different from one. You're just making shit up. None of this is real.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Greg counterpicture play. I mean, Brothers A Tale of Two Sons on Oprah Critic, a 77. But that's so old. Yeah, but it's an old game. That was back when people were like, Andy games suck. And I also think it's like, maddy.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I was on review. And I think the biggest criticisms I hear of that game is like how it kind of controlled. Like it was an interesting idea, but they didn't nail it. And I think if you're going to do a remake, all you're going to do is be able to improve that. So that's like, I could see it sitting around
Starting point is 01:30:14 80 and I don't want to lose a full of. 10 points. I will say Marks off flight simulator. Like Mike said mentioned, it has a job. Mike didn't know what. Do you think anyone here on this panel? You think anyone here on this panel is going to be
Starting point is 01:30:29 excited about picking up a dog from a burning building in a helicopter? No, none of these deproney is going to play this game. You just love getting clipped out by Xbox Twitter, huh? That's your favorite pass on. They know.
Starting point is 01:30:45 They know. I got some solid picks this year, boys. Yeah, it's not like previous ones where you get to the end and it's like, oh, man, okay, I guess I'm just like an easy pick Nickelodeon all-star brawl. They still might, they still might fucking delay like a dragon, infinite wealth. You never know.
Starting point is 01:31:03 It's coming out in like a week and a half. I don't know if I was a few close to my birthday. Last second. We saw what happened with a day before, y'all. Hell divers is coming out this year. Huh? Hell divers two. Coming out.
Starting point is 01:31:16 And I can't wait, but I loved helld divers, but remember how tooth and hard it was? Like, they seem like they're keeping that. And it's like, hmm, is I going to go over well now? Or are people going to be about that well life? Here's what I'll say, Barrett. Right now, Mike has two things locked in. Lock me in for a third. You can get a third with Hades too.
Starting point is 01:31:33 You lock in a house. You know? Lock in high. I take that gamble. I think that's a gamble either way of drafting it. You just made a very compelling argument. Counterpicking it. People ain't reviewing the shit.
Starting point is 01:31:42 What about the Plucky Squire? Nobody's going to like that game. You should lock that damn down. lock me in I mean it's a good point of like not not that doubting it's going to be like good because I think it's going to be at least solid but I do doubt of like if it actually hits this year
Starting point is 01:32:00 what game Plucky Squire Yeah I mean there is also shadow the earth tree I did see the dev and people from I think it wasn't the Devarro was tweeting playing Plucky Squire on Steam deck And I and I
Starting point is 01:32:14 put into them fuck you they replied fair I'm gonna go and I hate doing this because I want y'all to just be happy but I'm gonna go Penny's big breakaway no yeah that's probably a good pick on it
Starting point is 01:32:30 I think it's like I think they have a good solid team who knows Sonic and makes a really good Sonic game but if you can make a good Sonic game you can make a good whatever genre game but like you know how hard it is to make a good Sonic
Starting point is 01:32:43 and some are some say that it's the only good Sonic game myself. Shadow. Shadows there. And there's a shadow of the hedgehog game. I think it's much harder to make a solid 3D platformer game. And I think that's going to be a big task for that team.
Starting point is 01:32:58 And I think at worst, Tim, just to give you some relief. Yeah. Is that like it hits low 70s. So I think like you and Bless are still going to have a solid fun time. I think you're absolutely right. But I have faith in the people that I know are working on this game and their tastes. I think it's going to be it. Look, I'll just say this.
Starting point is 01:33:15 I had in time, I had in time, got really high scores. And this is what that reminds me of. Yeah. A little 3DQ platformer. People are aching for it. Being aching. Mm-hmm. All right, that's the draft.
Starting point is 01:33:29 All right, that's the draft. You want to do one final read of it all? Yeah, are we going to start? Are we going to have people go by one by one? Yeah, I think that makes sense. Start with Barrett. All right, as a final recap, my main picks are metaphor refantasio. Pursoma 3 reload, the rise of the golden,
Starting point is 01:33:45 idle, Unicorn Overlord, and Tales of the Shire. And my counterpick is Tim's Penny's big breakaway. Next up, Tim Getty's. Eldon Ring, Shadow of the Erd Tree, unannounced mainline 3D Mario platformer, Metal Gear Solid, Delta, Snake Eater, Penny's Big Breakaway, Untitled Machine Games, Indiana Jones game. My counterpick, Star Wars, Al. Wow.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Wow. Write the check. Write the check. My list goes like this. at Microsoft Flight Simulator, 2024, Earthblade, Black Myth Wu Kong, Rise of the Ronan. And then my counterpick is Metroid Prime
Starting point is 01:34:27 4. Me, Greg Miller, Ecto 1 Games, your reigning champion from 2023. Hi, how are you, 2015, trending game of the year to fantasy season 13, fantasy critic champ, no big team. Or no, no. Kind of few champ, sorry. I got so many awards now. The Johnny Baas Award,
Starting point is 01:34:43 never forget. My team is Final Fantasy 7, birth, Paper Mario the thousand year, Dora remake, Alan Wake 2, Night Springs, visions of mana, like a dragon, infinite wealth, and then I counterpicked Mike's replaced.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Hello, everyone, this is Snowbike, Mike. For team Snowbike, Mike. My picks. Hollow Knight's Silk Song, Hades 2, Dragon Dogma 2, the Plucky Squire, replaced. My counterpick, Hyper, light, breaker, from Roger Pekorni.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Wow. Hello, it's Roger Percorney. From? From? From? Halo free game. Thank you. I drafted Sunua Saga Hellblade 2. Final Fantasy 14, Dawn Trail, Mina the Howler,
Starting point is 01:35:26 Metroid Prime 4, Hyperlight Breaker, and my counterpick was Mike's Dragon's Dogma 2. Natural Rifle Games here, getting locked and loading, Tekon 8, Star Wars Outlaws, Frost Punk 2, Brother A Tale of Two Sun's remake, Undernight in Birth 2,
Starting point is 01:35:42 Sis Celeste, there's brackets there, and my counterpick, Tales of the Shire. from Barrett. Remember everybody if you want to keep up with us as we continue to play throughout the year, kind of funny.com slash KF League 2024. We'll drop you right on the page Barrett was showing you where you can go
Starting point is 01:35:57 keep up with it. And here's it sounds like a leading question. I swear it's not. What's everybody's playing from here? Like are you going to go tonight and draft other things? I'm not telling you shit. I already picks. Check it out. Three bids already in, baby. I'm cooking. I got a couple of one ad.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Yeah, I got one or two. How many can we drop that are just, regardless of it. It's three. Three. And then if they have no release date or they release it gets pushed. Yeah, three if their release date gets pushed beyond 2024. And then you have one free drop. Just one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's tough. If one were to try to make a pick, how do you, what do you? Yeah, what's the button to that? Well, on the page you're logged into,
Starting point is 01:36:35 if you scroll to the very top and then you have your little bar of options, this says make a bid. It's right on your play at actions. The thing is, though, we're going to take it seriously. Everyone here and bear it. We're taking it seriously. We're doing it this year. We'll probably check in throughout the year somewhere of where we're at. Just to stress what you're saying. Mike. We're going to take it seriously. Hey, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Let's put something on the table then. Losers got to do something. No, losers got to do something. Let's do something for real. We're all losers. Let's make it so like you really got a low fire lit under your ass. Losers got to buy the winner of pizza. Make it a simple pizza back. I think it, but they get one.
Starting point is 01:37:10 One, two. No, last place. Six pizzas? Last place? No, no. I'm saying last place gets the winner number one spot of pizza. I love that. I love that. Let's make it interesting because I'm going to take it for real. I've already picked three.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Okay, well, that means I'm real. Mike, I like pepperoni. That means I'm real. We'll go for Hawaii. Well, everyone, let us know in the cup of flow. If there's secret picks that I should choose, let me know, I'm going to be the only one to read them. I'm going to add them.
Starting point is 01:37:33 It's going to be great. At the Andy Cortez to send a Tim's picks. And they're hashtag Tim. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Until the next time, I love you all. Goodbye.

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