Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Video Game Tattoos (w/ Game Attack's Shaun Bolen) - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: May 7, 2017

Game Attack's Shaun Bolen joins us to discuss video game tatoos and talking shit on the internet. (Released to Patreon Supporters 12.25.16) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoic...es

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Starting point is 00:00:12 Tattoos? Yes. Seems like you're burning a podcast right here. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got tattoos. No, wait, hold on. You have to wait for that. What's up, guys?
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm Tim Getty's. Welcome to the first ever. December 2016, Patreon exclusive episode of the kind of funny games cast. As always, I'm Tim Geddy. Join by one half of the coolest dudes in video games. Greg Miller.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Hey. Call him or are you somewhere else. And now joining us as the other half. Sean Bowlin. From Game Attacks. Game Attacks. Sean, everybody. Screw attack.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Thank you, Kevin. You're cute. Wow. Oh, no. No, Kevin. He tried pulling up his shirt, but he couldn't. It's painted on. That Batman shirt is not.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It's looking like a costume. Before we even get an introduction to any of that shit, I want to go back to a conversation we were having a second ago. You said this place smells like a tattoo parlor. It does. If you ever been in a tattoo shop? I mean, I've been in one, but not enough to know how it smells. It's, um,
Starting point is 00:01:11 it's, I feel like you guys should have blue rubber gloves on. Is it maybe, Kevin, did you spray it on the table before this episode? I don't think so. I smell it all over. The table does have a smell if you smell it. Kevin, level with me. How many times he had sex in this table?
Starting point is 00:01:30 On the table? Once? All right. And was she on her back or were you on your back? He's shrugging. He doesn't know. He doesn't know. Yeah, it's a very pleasant smell.
Starting point is 00:01:41 The space is way more badass than you make it look. Oh, that's not. That's not good. I'm just playing. The space is awesome. Space is awesome. What's surprising about it? I actually looked around for this set.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I went back there to find it. I was like, where the hell did they guys film everything? And I was like, oh, there's another. There's a whole other room. Yeah. So, like, I was surprised, like, all the equipment's freaking awesome. Cameras are huge.
Starting point is 00:02:09 They're not from 2008. Got a fireplace right there. We don't have one of those. We do. We do. Santa can still get in here. Okay, which is good. I just, I never, I never understood that this was a bunch of tiny little lights and not a giant Vizio. Oh yeah. God, yeah. I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:02:26 That'd be the biggest TV in the fucking world. Yeah, yeah, but it's awesome. I love it here. Very cool. Don't let me leave. Thank you for something. So tattoo parlors. I'm not letting you go with this. Yeah, so. I don't know. It's just the smell and tattoo parlors. But you, you do you have tattoos? Yeah, I got a couple. I don't see any. You want to, yeah, let's see my shirt off. Show us. Show us. I got to take my shirt. That's okay. You still don't have tattoos. You're a fucking word. Oh, that's right. I've seen these before.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Because you wear tank tops a lot. What's happening on the other side, Tim? It says May. It says May. My mom's name was May Bell, or is May Bell. She's not dead. You took us to a dark place there. Immediately she's not dead.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Can confirm she is living. Good, good. Shout out to May. Shout out to May. Do you ever tell people it's for May Young? Because you're a big WWV fan? No. Next time you meet somebody who knows WWE say that and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:03:21 All right. I haven't watched WWS since Attitude Area, so... She was part of that, remember? No. Really? Fabulous Mulla. And then May Young. The old last.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Exactly. The oldest one. She had that whole storyline with Mark Henry, where they were lovers. They thought she was pregnant and then she's the hardest of the world. Yeah. And then... She also got a power bomb by Bubba Red W. Off the stage.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I remember that. That was a balsy bump. Rest in peace, May. Last match I watched, I watched Mania when Shane McMahon jumped off the cage. Pretty lacklesser match until you're in there. Sure. Pretty bad asses. So what do we got going on over there? Over here.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Clearly, Assassin's Creed for Black Flag. Yes, yes. I got a robot albatross. So this is going to be hard. This is going to be hard. I got it. I'm going to have you. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:04:09 He's doing digital zooms. He can do it from. Okay, so I got a robot albatross. What does that signify? I was an English major in high school. I got my bachelor's. And, you know, Coleridge, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:24 the thing with the albatross. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You ever heard water, water, everywhere, but not a drop to drink? I have heard that. That's from the rhyme of the ancient Mariner. Mariner, they're on the turbulent sea. They see an albatross.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Mariner's like, dude, fuck that albatross. And he shoots it with a crossbow. Calm waters. But then, violent waters again even though the albatross is dead so sailors hang the albatross around his neck oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:04:51 yeah whatever so basically it's a big eff you to everyone that told me not to be an English major gotcha because look where I am now sitting with Tim Gettys and motherfucking Greg Miller it's one of those where this isn't a drunk podcast but man is it starting like one I like it I want you to get
Starting point is 00:05:07 the sky cam on this so can you if you lean in underneath this canon one right there hold on it's right here Hold on. It's going to take a second because Kevin only uses it when he fucks apparently on this table. There we go. Yeah. There's that avatross, that robot albatross. And then I got a fox on the underside, fox and the grapes. Then I got fox and the grapes on the underside.
Starting point is 00:05:29 What happened here? I broke my arm. Jesus. Broke my arm. You've lived a life, sir. You've lived a life. Fox and the grapes story about a fox that sees some grapes high in a tree. As you do.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Tries to get him. Can't reach him. And then he tells him. He tells himself the grapes weren't, they were sour. He didn't want them anyway. Sure. Fuck that. You get the grapes all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Never walk away from what you want. I got that one after getting hired on Screw Attack. Gotcha. I like that. Similar to the story of Zakiya. A wee little man was he. Fucking goddamn. Climed way up in a sycamore tree.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yes, he did. For Jesus Christ to see. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I've been thinking about tattoos a lot. You get a Zika one? Zika's, you know, probably like 67, 68th on the list. Think of the awesome sleeve you could have, though,
Starting point is 00:06:12 have a giant tree. and then up here on your shoulder. Didn't we decide Kevin was Zika? In our, yes, in our school play. Yeah, we're going to make him Zikia. That sounds. The wee little man. You have heard this before.
Starting point is 00:06:25 A wee little man was he. I think you get that tattoo, but with Kevin, but as a Willy Wonka crossover, and he's an oompa, in a Willy Wonka tree. The Willie Wonka tree? Yeah. Oh, shit. Wait, here's your water back. I was wondering what the fuck's going on over here.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Kevin was a wee little man and a Willy Wonka man was he? There you go. Nailed it. But yeah. We wrote the history. Would you ever get a video game tattoo? You know, I've thought about it and I don't know. I haven't, you know, in 25 years of playing video games, I don't know if there's a video game that I've loved so much to worship it on my body.
Starting point is 00:07:03 You clearly haven't played Patapon. I have not played Patapon. There you go. Damn it. That's the one. Do you have any video game tattoos? No, I don't have the body. I don't have any tattoos.
Starting point is 00:07:11 at all. You think this is the body for tattoo? I'm saying, I just don't take my shirt off a lot, so why would I... Man, I think if you got a tattoo, you get like a... Man, you get like, Joel, but, like, having sex with a clicker. Just having sex with Ellie. God. Joel having sex with... What, it could happen. Make a world.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You know, sometimes you have, like, an original thought, and that's what you were going to say, and then you're like, I don't know these guys very, very well, and, like, I don't want to be a total prick. So you went for the fucking monster? Yeah, so I played it safe, and then Greg, you backed me up all the way. Come on, Sean up high. You don't tell anybody about it, but you debut it. Sure. You just take your show up.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Oh, that's a great idea. And then one day you just have it. And everyone's like, that's your life from then on. I think about doing that with trophies a lot. Like turning on a PS3 and playing a whole bunch of games to get platinum's in, and then never tell anybody and just one day, boom, plug it in, upload like 19. I like that. Or just be quietly playing persona 4 Golden off in a corner, never tell anybody.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah. All right. That's good. I'll think about it. You've talked about tattoos before on video. in tattoos. Yeah, no, no, no. I've thought about it before. So the old story goes, the moment Colin and I knew we were destined to do this forever, like Joker and Batman, was after any three when we were both young bucks, and this is the old school of IG, and they got better about this as he just went on.
Starting point is 00:08:27 They used to actually run out one giant area for our war room, and then they'd put a party space at the back. That would be the sales party that the editors who were working until three in the morning weren't invited to. So one day, it was just separated by curtain, so you heard people partying, Peter Moore back there telling stories about Dreamcast. You'd hear that and you'd want to be there. You'd be like pressed up against the curtain, but you have to work. And so one day that happened and it ended and everybody left and then we kept working. And then we're like, all right, we're done. E3's done. Fuck this. And we came through the curtain to the other side where nobody was anymore, but all the booze was still there. And so we all just started
Starting point is 00:08:59 drinking and there's IGN swag everywhere. And it was the old, the really dope old IGN logo. You remember? That was like the italicized one with the lower case. Yeah. Like the 98 one. Yeah. Yeah. The hot one. And it was on It was on tables It was on giant tables And again Colin I think this is He must have worked there a full year
Starting point is 00:09:17 Because I think this is his first E3 Where we're both working it together And we went in there and we were just passing I think a bottle like Jack Daniels or whatever drinking it And they had these giant centerpieces that were like Just giant sniffers And like with rocks in it
Starting point is 00:09:29 You know how the people do that shit So we dumped out the rocks And then we poured the thing in there And for some reason we took our shirts off Yeah And then we're just sitting there passing this giant Snifter thing around And pounding on the logo
Starting point is 00:09:39 talking about how much this fucking means to us. This is all we've, we've been, we're drunk. Yeah, yeah. This is all we've ever wanted. And then we made the decree that if, not even if, when we were both editor-in-chief of our respective channel. So I was going to be the editor-in-chief of PlayStation.
Starting point is 00:09:54 He would have been the editor-in-chief of guides. We were going to get the IG and tattoo together somewhere. And so then they reformatted teams. There's only one I, I, I see you. That's me. Colin came to my team and it never worked out. But I often still talked about, like, if he was ever going to be game for it,
Starting point is 00:10:08 I would have wanted it like here, like just a little one there. And I always say, to this day, I wouldn't regret it. I still think it would, I just, it's part of it is what you are. And so then when we. But what the fuck's a sniffter? A sniffer. A sniffing. It's like a shined up before.
Starting point is 00:10:22 It's like a wine glass, but with the dwarf's legs. Nice. Very well, yeah, yeah. But it's got this like great, like you know like when you're grabbing an ass like this? That's how big this one was. You were grabbing this thing. Yeah. And you're drinking out of it like this.
Starting point is 00:10:37 But then, so anyways, jumping ahead. had to then kind of funny being a thing. There was a while where I was like, what if I got the kind of funny logo here? And then I was like, well, I would need something matching here. And I was thinking about the Foxtown logo. But then I was like,
Starting point is 00:10:48 you know what? I don't need to do this. Yeah. Man. Fox Town, that's such a cool-ass logo, though. Yeah, totally. And it's like, obviously that franchise
Starting point is 00:10:54 means so much to so many people, especially you. I think at RTX, Sydney, I might have Hadeo Kijima put on lipstick and kiss me. And then like, that's not.
Starting point is 00:11:03 No, I'm not going to get that. That'd be awesome. Draw it on you. Oh, that's a good idea too. That's probably a better idea. Oh, well, that's where your head goes, though. You should have fucked up person.
Starting point is 00:11:14 You know, you know, if people get, like, their baby's footprints. Yeah. And they get big ass foot. I don't know how biggest foot is, but, you know, I'm just like. That's fucking awesome. Yeah, that'd be really good. I love that. Yeah, yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Why about you? Are you ever going to get a tattoo? I mean, I've been, my own, my entire life have never been like, I want a tattoo. I'm not one of those guys. But I've also been like, eh, tattoos are fucking cool. I like how they look on people. Yeah. So I've been thinking I want to get asleep.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Like I want the whole thing. Yeah, because it looks fucking sick. Yeah. What would you get? You got to get the crash mask in there, right? Oh, I can be a boo-go.
Starting point is 00:11:47 My thing is, I'm a bigger fan of, and I'm usually like this even with, like, T-shirts and stuff, most of the time, is I'm a fan of subtlety when it comes to certain things. I like the obnoxious fucking over the top,
Starting point is 00:11:58 like, all over print thing. Yeah, yeah. But when it comes to, like, just T-shirts, I don't want to wear a shirt with a Pikachu on it. I'd rather one that has,
Starting point is 00:12:05 that, like, is something the three ninja masks Kevin just brought up. Oh, I fucking love that. I call Tom Tom, Tom, let's go right now. I'm cold. We all go get him.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But yeah, I like it's when things are a bit more subtle when it's not like overtly. For example, if I already get like a beauty and the beast tattoo, like a Disney tattoo, it would be just the rose.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Of course. Stuff like that. Things that are like, if you know, you know, but if you don't know, whatever. So I don't know,
Starting point is 00:12:30 it's hard because there isn't too many of those things. I'm like, I want that on my fucking body. Sure. Well, I told you the other day. haven't told anybody else though,
Starting point is 00:12:36 Jen and I were, it was like, it was like, you know how like the nuclear clock or whatever that's getting, doomsday clock, this counting on a doomsday. Like, we just moved it one step closer to midnight and you're all going to die soon.
Starting point is 00:12:47 We were like right there. It was like Cuban Missile Crisis where we were fucking, fucking wasted off awesome cocktail from a speakeasy. And then we'd been eating oysters all night. And she was like, now I need something horrible for me. Let's go get a burger.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And we went to Sam's Burger over by the original kind of funny place. Kind of funny live place. And we walked in there and we're drunk and there's two drunk guys at the bar and we start about conversation with them because I was trying to pay the car I can't do that and he's like oh we're going to go get tattoos and Jen Graz's like do you want to go get tattoos and I was like yeah but like we're this doesn't seem like the kind of I'm like what would we get and she's like we're going
Starting point is 00:13:22 back and forth I'm like I you know the kind of funny logo the funny thing she's like and I'm like I've thought about the Portillo's logo and she's like yes and I'm like where are we gonna get one to you? She's like, yeah, I'm like, where are we gonna get these? And she's like,
Starting point is 00:13:34 what if we got the inside of our fingers? And I'm like, the Pertilla's look is pretty detailed. I don't know if I want that. If I'm doing this, I don't want, you know it would look a tiny little
Starting point is 00:13:44 little ass weiner dog and a bun there. Like, I want the real thing if we're doing it. And then finally I was like, no, no, we're too drunk for this. We are too drunk for this.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Not to mention a plane to catch in like three hours. I'm like, we can't, this isn't, they're not going to be able to do this. Living on the fucking edge. But so the one thing that I have been thinking about recently, like, so much so that I actually Googled it today.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Ooh. I googled it with tattoo to see what other people are doing. The sick parvis Magna. A lot of people have done it. Yeah. But I love that. And that's the type of thing where I'm like, it doesn't need to be this like, man, this game changed my life. It's just more like that message I fucking fuck with.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah. Greatness from small beginnings. Everybody should aspire to that. That's fucking cool. Yeah. You know, but again, it's just like that. It needs to be in that font. It's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And I don't know where that would fit. I mean, I could do a calling style, you know? Oh, yeah, where it's just like kind of there. But like,
Starting point is 00:14:32 yeah, I mean, I want more going on. Yeah. I mean, it's, I always, I always want to get a tattoo that could be built on if I,
Starting point is 00:14:39 because you can't take away, but like, um, I don't know, like, that'd be something you could end up building like an entire PlayStation sleeve out of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So, yeah. Kajima. Yeah. Like, no, across like old English, like,
Starting point is 00:14:54 Like West Side, but Kojima, yeah, yeah. That's sick. No, but the Foxhound logo is so cool. His new studio, sorry. No, go ahead. His new studio logo is like, Kojima was just like, I don't even care.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I just wanted to be this coolest-looking thing ever. Take the, you know, the Peace Walker logo, and just take the skull and put it inside like a spaceman. Yeah, I got on it wrong. All right, whatever. Yeah, it's definitely. We've evolved. And they're like, all right, me.
Starting point is 00:15:19 That's just like throwing every single thing they have. Our guy is like, you're an idiot, but okay. Here it is. Doesn't it look awesome? Cajima. Nailed it. Crushed it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:15:28 But that's just fucking baller about Kojima. He can just do whatever the hell he wants. Right. Yeah. He's like, yeah, it's a fucking spaceman. And people are like, it's a fucking space man.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And then he's like, you know what? We put out one thing for the game. Now we're going to put out the intro to what our logo is. And it's a space man. Like, all right, that is a space man. That's a space ass man.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Is that Norman Rita's having a baby? Yeah, you idiot. Yeah. Don't be stupid. Doesn't have an ability to turn invisible. No, it's funny you bring up the greatness from small beginnings thing because you know our friend Troy Baker
Starting point is 00:15:54 It was just here And as you know, literally Have you ever talked to Troy? Have you ever had the chance to talk to him? You talk to Troy and you're like, hey oh man, yeah, and Kevin went and bought that ladder And he'll look at the ladder I've got a story about ladders
Starting point is 00:16:06 Let me tell you. And he said, I was in the fucking Australian outback And this koala came up with the way That's always some insane fucking thing And so we're sitting there getting ready to do the telltale show the other day For the Batman thing And I'm talking to him
Starting point is 00:16:18 And it's the makeup lady and all these other people. And he's like, bo-v-v-v-v-un, he reaches his pocket. And he pulls out this, like, euro, but like a classic euro or some weird thing. He's like, oh, man, I got this. And I'm like, God damn it. You have some story for this, too. He's like, yeah, blah-ba.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And then he reaches this pocket. He's like, whoa, and he pulled out the uncharted ring. And I'm like, what are you doing? Are you carrying, like, bits with you to talk to people? He's like, no, I swear I'm not. I just have him in this jacket for some reason. He's just like the kind of guy that, like, every conversation he has is the one that would get him into a threesome at the bar.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Troy, I fucking love him. And I actually, I'm happy that I have a place that I can talk about how much I love him without him here. Yeah. Because it's kind of weird. But every time I talk to him whether it's on camera or off camera, it's just so fascinating. And he's, he's like calling in terms of like how eloquent he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:03 But he just keeps going and he just keeps having these stories that are so enticing. And they're all positive. It's the thing. It's like, he's like the opposite, but you get the two of them together. Yeah. And I'm like, you got a fucking good time. Perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And then visually. speaking, he's sex incarnate. Oh, my God. He's too good looking. On that game over Gregi's show, that's what I said. This is the best he's ever looked. Oh, that's a problem. That's a guy-grey-a-a-a-law. Everyone was wet. Speaking of being wet, I saw this picture that I want to share with you guys. I like, this game's gas has nothing to do with games. I'm sure we'll find ways there once in a while. Well, no, this is what was funny about last, okay, so here, real quick, shut up, Sean.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Last time, on the kind of funny exclusive, we did the playcast, where we played. And people said, number one, they really like the format, but it didn't work necessary for audio. but they like the format they like the conversation try it for less plays try it for other stuff but more importantly that they don't they were like
Starting point is 00:17:48 gamescast exclusive don't need to be anchored to games it is still you guys talking and you're always talking about games somehow exactly games are our life now who made you wet today is what you're doing with games at all but I was on Reddit
Starting point is 00:18:00 I saw this picture and I like laughed out loud it was just so fucking random it's two girls oh show Sky Cam we're gonna show some Sky Cam I feel dumb for laughing because
Starting point is 00:18:15 it's so erotic You're gonna have to bring it down I got it I got it I use sky cam all the time I use sky cam all the time ladies and gentlemen Where you want me to bring it up or down Okay Okay I'll be I'll be not Ashley Ashley you know I'm straight
Starting point is 00:18:33 So spaghetti until it gets wet Oh what's up That was it? Oh my God What the fuck? Literally right what I said that dick pops in We make a vague lesbian reference and Nick Scarpino appears. Come here, Nick. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:18:47 Hey, how are you? Filthy Casual shirt? Nice. This is a great ensemble, actually. Yeah, this looks good. I love everything. Put the glasses on, too, before they see you. There you go.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It is not that cold down. Anyways, come over here and look at this. Look at this picture. That's fantastic. I love it. Funny games cast. Exclusive. Thanks, just for it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 We're laughing and shit, and Nick's like, I'm wet too. Yeah. You know what I was trying to figure out if that was actually a clip from something that I could watch later when you guys weren't around.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Nick, why have you never gotten a tattoo? I've never got a tattoo because I've never liked anything enough to put it on my body and I'm very fickle and Tim seemed to me to design shit. It would just drive me nuts if the tattoo was wrong. So if it was like off center on my arm or something, I would just obsess about it into the point I was like, Tim, I got to cut my arm on. You'd go fucking do it. Did you ever, is there, let's say you have to get a tattoo and it has to be video game related.
Starting point is 00:19:44 What would you do? Have to get a tattoo. It has to be video game related? Shit, I don't even know. I don't even know. The only tattoo I thought about getting it a Harry Potter related, but that's like the only... That counts.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Lego Harry Potter, okay. What are you going to get? The Deathly Hallows, then you got to go with that. That's the scar he has, right? All right, pleasure talking to you. The Deadly Hallows thing is fucking sick looking. Is that the stupid triangle? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Stupid triangle. Get a tri-force then, all right? Fuck that. That's cool. I like your shit. It's got a circle in it and writing a line through it. Is that what the guy who fixed the pain on the yesterday had on his arm? Because he had a bunch of tattoos.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Oh, I didn't see. He had a cross on this one, or... Cross on this one on each one. But then on the inside he appeared on one of them He definitely had the triangle with something in there. And I was like, is that a Triforce? No, I don't know what that is. Is that a real religion?
Starting point is 00:20:28 I can't tell. May have been nothing else. Quick question. What video game tattoo would you not ever get? Because mine would, Jesus. A million, yeah. I would never get to try force. Kevin had a great idea.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Axiom Verge. Nick needs to get the entire map of Axiom Verge on this back. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that would hurt. Man, more like, I'd get the audio readings of the soundtrack to actually Murch tattooed on my body. Oh, yeah. Oh, that'd be cool. That'd be cool. I like the ones that are like...
Starting point is 00:20:59 That's what I'm saying, weird subtle shit where it's like, even if you couldn't understand what it is and needs to be explained, I like that's cool though. Like there's a... There's songs that like rap songs I listen and I've seen people get it like notated in music or the audio like wave form. I'm like, that's fucking sick. Yeah. Yeah, fuck, there was something I want to say a documentary I was watching or something I was reading about where it was that, yeah, it was somebody who had like the, this
Starting point is 00:21:19 is like what it was play like on an equalizer. Yeah, that's sick. Like, I'd want something like, like my mom's last words. God. The audio form. But they're never, they're usually not impressive,
Starting point is 00:21:31 last words. Yeah, but my grand, my mom's grandmother, or my grandmother on my mom's side, her final word, I got to pee. What about what if,
Starting point is 00:21:41 what about, oh, why are you stabbing me? Yeah. But video game things I wouldn't get on me. I mean, anything that, like too overt, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I think the Triforces is my number one never in my life. I wouldn't get the Triforce. TriForce is done really well, though, sometimes. If you went in, you put like the 3D detail, whatever, but Chobot has just the basic Triforce, it looks really good. It looks, I mean, there's something, symbols are cool. Shapes are always cool. This is no disrespect to anyone that has the Triforce, understand.
Starting point is 00:22:08 It's just not for me. Unsub to Game Attack, everybody. Because I've seen, I've seen Infinity Triforces. Yeah, everybody has them. You saw a guy with a Triforce the other day, didn't know what was a Triforce. No, I didn't even know. No, it's Deathly Howells. Oh, Deathly Halas.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I would have known the Triforce. That would have been. You know that. You know them triangles anywhere. Fucking Emma Watson nerd shit. I don't know. Yeah. See, I would never get,
Starting point is 00:22:26 I would never get a, like a polka ball on me. You know, I don't want that shit. I'd get fucking seven pokeballs. Only six, don't be stupid. You can only carry six with you.
Starting point is 00:22:34 You do something dope, though, like you could get like a face hugger coming out of a pokey ball. Like something fucked up. What if we got Calvin peeing on a polkeball? Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:22:44 That's, that you're getting somewhere. Yeah. So another thing that I would never do is tribal tattoos. But the, I've seen tribal, the EV Lucians done as tribal like drawings. If you can find a picture, Kevin. Kevin's on it. And it looks fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Just do Evilution tattoo. Evilution? Like all the Evis? Okay. Yeah, yeah, I got you. This is a Pokemon? Yes. Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Do you say Pokemon too? Yeah, just to piss people off, though. I mean, I know. Oh, man. I'm going to rub you. Yeah, man. I say a lot of words. I say Pokemon's.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I say Pokemon's. I say it. Yeah, I know. It really bothers them. The problem is there's no canon way to say it. Pokemon. Pokemon. Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Because in the anime, they say all fucking three. The anime, they're just confused. Kevin, what's taking so long? Jesus. Evolutions. Pokemon. I'm now comfortable yelling at you. That's how much you failed today.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Wow. Wow. All I want you to do is pull things up. It's none of those. But See, now the pixel Those look good.
Starting point is 00:23:52 That's squirtle, right? Yeah. That's squirtle. And pixel art in general looks cool. Yeah. That's why I'm always...
Starting point is 00:23:58 See, that thing's cool. Yeah. This is fucking cool. I like that. Can you pull it on the TV? Whoa! Whoa! They can't see it.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, they can. They can see it. Not like this. Not like this. This is very true. If you're listening to this and driving a podcast. I actually think it was easier when it was down there.
Starting point is 00:24:14 You should probably drive a car. Yeah. I like the watercolor tattoos a lot. Color spilling out of the lines Colin always talks about wanting to get a Mega Man sleeve or leg sleeve I believe down in his cap or whatever
Starting point is 00:24:26 Of all the robot masters Yeah, get Wiley and stuff on there I urge him all the time to do that Because I believe nope I figured out a way to talk about video games On the show Tattoos No
Starting point is 00:24:35 I play Mega Man 1 for the first time On Tuesday Wow I saw you play I was in your stream for a little bit Did you really? Didn't say shit Because I have this
Starting point is 00:24:45 Don't be a lurker 10 I have a problem when I Whenever like my friends are streaming, like Fran was streaming last night, playing Final Fantasy. And like I popped in, or I popped into your thing when you were doing Mega Man for a bit. But it's like, I don't want to go in the chat and say something. And this happens with Alfredo as well. Because then then they don't see it for a while.
Starting point is 00:25:01 It gets delayed. Then eventually they do see. I feel like I got to hang out. I feel like I got to hang out and wait there. I'm like, oh, I don't know. When am I going to have to go to the bathroom? He's got to chuck the grenade and get the hell out before it blows up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah, so anyway. But I'm proud of you for beating it. Yeah, it was awesome. You beat it too. Oh, I didn't do five hours. I'd never played a Mega Man before except... Did you use guides or were you just fucking Stonewall? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I had the chat drop me hints whenever I just completely gave up hope. Gotcha. Like, but Mega Man was so awesome because it was... Like, it was impossible until you figured it out. Sure.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Like, you get to Fireman and he whoops the ever-loving shit out of you. You're like, never, never going to be. Impossible. Impossible. Never. And you climb up and you do a little damage, you're like, oh, that's not so bad. And then you whip the fucking shit out of him.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And then you're beating the yellow devil, no pause. And you beat Dr. Wiley. Oh my God. It was awesome. Wait. It's Mega Man 2. No, it's Mega Man 1. The Yellow Devil's?
Starting point is 00:25:57 It was a big man one. Really? Yeah, you idiot. Huh. Is he back in two? I never beat any of them. I was just assumed. I'm watching Colin play at 10,000 times.
Starting point is 00:26:07 It was, yeah. I just like, everyone talks to how awesome Mega Man is. I'd never played any of them. But about that legacy collection? Good stuff. I understand now. Yeah. Back to tattoos.
Starting point is 00:26:16 That legacy collection, your boy and our boy, both in it on the 3DS. There's the Colin Moriarty Challenge and the Stuttering Craig Challenge. Yeah, he named it the Craig's Challenge instead of the company he works for a challenge. Because, you know, why the hell? That's what we're calling it too. Yeah, yeah. It's not like somebody's going to play that and go find him. Yeah, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Like, oh my God, this Craig guy is like a legend. I've got to go find him places. He's a legend. I've heard tales of this Craig guy. I'm sure it won't just be a boring white. guy in a house. Aw. There wasn't his name Chris?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Stuttering Chris. Stuttering Chris. We love you. So speaking of screw attack, game attack, what the fuck? Game attack. Yeah, if people don't know you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:27:00 I'm the least. Oh, that's what I'm talking about. Whoa, look at that. Did you catch them? Oh, they're coming to the wall behind me. I don't want them colored, but. Kevin's trying, struggling so hard to get them to the wall behind this. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about is those things.
Starting point is 00:27:15 but not in that formation, but more like wrapped around. That's fucking cool. How does Gia feel about you maybe getting a sleeve? Already she not know? She's into tattoos. I'm sure she should be super down. Oh, yeah. She has a whole bunch of tattoos.
Starting point is 00:27:30 The back of the tattoos. Her spine's sticking out a lot. Her spine's sticking out of a lot there. Man, this lady's got an awesome back in the tattoos and bad either. That's hilarious. Yeah, no, Gia has a whole bunch of tattoos. One is some weird yoga shit that I understand, like a flower thing. A hanger?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Like a co-hanger? Yeah, it's one of those you look at. I'm like, I don't know what this is. It's like a flower. It looks like something on a hangar. I don't know. It's on her shoulder. And then she has another one in like a sexy place.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Not like sex, that's sexy. But like most people wouldn't see it unless you're Nick and you're like trying really hard. And then she has one that's really cool. It's her latest ones right here. And it's similar to what we're talking about with the like waveform and shit. But it's the, I'm stupid and I'm not a scientist. So I'm going to need some help here, Kevin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 The chemistry, like the molecular, like how the atoms and shit. A beaker. It's a beaker. It's like when there's all the polyons. The chemical structure of some. Sugar. Endorphin hormone thing for estrogen. For something.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Acid. I think it's what it is. It's for when you orgasm. Endorphins? You can when you laugh or exercise too. I forgot which one it is. A used condom? I'm a texture right now.
Starting point is 00:28:46 She's going to do that. And ask her to take a photo the one on her back. I still think it looks like a coat hanger. Yeah. Don't, I mean, you can, I mean, whatever one is not, you don't have, she doesn't have to be naked. This is what I'm saying. It doesn't have to be. She doesn't have to be.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Can you? So keep talking about game attack, true attack, and explain to people. Oh, yeah, I'm the least internet famous person that's ever been on your show. I don't know. I don't believe that. I really doubt that. Yeah, Collins on it. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Rang him up. I've never even said more than like three words of Colin. even though he's like my favorite. Okay, you don't have to go be all positive to me now. Anyways, hey, I'm Sean. I worked for Screw Attack. For how long? For two years.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And then we got tired of not being personalities. So we made a new branch called Game Attack. Wow. And now we fuck like crazy. Just all over the place. Each other? We got game plays, awesome podcasts. You'll see us on the last.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Let's Play Channel. You'll see us with you guys, hopefully more often. If we can get out here more. But the Game Attack Channel is about video games when you were 10. When you played them because they were fucking fun and your friends are there with you and you laugh and you have a good time and you forget about every single aspect of video games outside of that feeling. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Thank God that is gone. Because now I have trophies to worry about it. You bring up the Mega Man Collection? I'm like, I would love to play that, but it's not rewarding on a trophy level. so I don't give a flying fuck. Maybe the Switch one. Maybe the Switch one. Maybe the Switch one.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Maybe. But yeah, please show Game Attack some love. We want an audience just like you guys that are dedicated and show love and talk to us on Twitters and interact with us and are into what we're doing. So go check it out. YouTube.com slash Game Attack, the homies. I want to say I'm impressed with you guys. I was talking to you about this a little bit earlier.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So I've been a fan of Screw Attack for many years. 10 years, I would say. I do believe besides Destiny, you're the only person IGN who had ever known what Skrotech was. Yeah, I mean, everyone else just has heard of it and made fun of it a lot. Yeah, yeah. But then there was me. But now I can join in on that too.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Good, yeah, I know, exactly. Even though Chad James would like totally freak out and be like, no, don't stay here. You don't worry about him anymore. You never see him. But, you know, by the time, like, they're not the people on time. I'm not talking about death battle.
Starting point is 00:31:09 They don't even fucking know about that. Yeah, whatever. They don't know about that shit. But then I've been a fan for a very long time, and I've, really respected Craig and everything that he did over there. And then, yeah, then we got to meet a couple years ago
Starting point is 00:31:20 and it was super cool doing all that type of shit. And then the whole let's play network thing happened and you guys were part of that. So we all got to get to know each other a bit more. And we got to talk to Craig. He was talking about how he wants to do what you're saying. I'm more personality. Do more than games.
Starting point is 00:31:32 This wasn't really a good fit for the let's play thing because it was, Scrootech is more like a big production company rather than like a mini rooster teeth rather than a like you guys. Yeah, it's, Yeah. Boots.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I mean, I guarantee you, like you guys totally influenced, like us, like just starting something new. You know, still within the company. We weren't like,
Starting point is 00:31:55 bye, but... Fuck you guys. We're going right over here in the same office. Kind of like that. Well, what's cool about,
Starting point is 00:32:00 though, is like, so seeing Craig leaving, seeing Craig leave with you specifically, I thought was, was awesome because you were the guys that kind of had that vision
Starting point is 00:32:07 and saw us doing stuff and saw Achievement Hunter doing stuff. Yeah, and kind of took the best of both worlds for what you guys are trying to do. Yeah. And it's been, cool to see because in a lot of ways, like, I envy what you guys are doing now because we don't do it.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. Like, I want to do, and we've, we dabbled in it. We did a watchdogs let's play and we did the battlefield let's play. Like, I want to do let's plays like that that are edited and produced. And like, it's just us having fun because we, you know, we come from IGN. So we, we know how to make IGN content. And then we, in the same way you're talking about want to be personalities and stuff, we know how to do that as well.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And once we did kind of funny, kind of funny is getting to a point where it's like, we know what we're doing. Yeah. We can shit out these podcasts because it becomes natural. Well, I'm saying it comes natural to us. Right. We can just be like, all right, cool. We know what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And you got a good workflow. Good rhythm is like super important when it comes to this kind of stuff, especially when you guys are producing on Patreon and YouTube and all the different places. So then we're hitting a point where it's like, all right, cool. Our let's play product has always been what I felt we've done weakest because I was familiar with the let's plays that are out there like Achievement Hunter and how awesome they can be and how fun they are and how much they can grow an audience from that.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Whereas we were, and we still do, stick to the more informational thing. Like our let's plays are the most informational thing we do. Like besides maybe PSI Love You, but even then PSI Love You is 50-50. Opinions and the Waterman and we're yelling about something. Yeah, exactly. So it's like it still is very personality-based. But when we do let's plays, most of the time it's, hey, here's this game, here's what it's about. Here's why it's cool.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Here's why you should check it out. We still debut games. where somebody comes to us and they're like, I want to show you what's happening. Exactly. And there's nothing wrong with that. I think that we should always be that because we kind of get to evangelize the things that we love.
Starting point is 00:33:52 But I want to have fun the way you guys have fun. Yeah. I mean, I also, I feel like you guys are like what video game sites will be like in the coming years. Like, you know, IGN will probably be around forever because they cover so much stuff and they do it well.
Starting point is 00:34:09 But like, you know, everyone is leaving what they were doing. to start their own thing. You were talking to me just about that a second ago. Like, you know, all, like, all the heavy hitters now were from something that was large. I mean, like, Funhouse was, you know, Machinima guys or... Yep. I don't really pay attention to them.
Starting point is 00:34:29 But, yeah, like, it feels like the personality stuff is really coming out. And, like, Alfredo, like, he's awesome. Sure, and Danny O'Dwyer and Jim Sterling and all these things. Yeah, go make your own thing. best luck to him tonight. Like, you know, we're recording this as the day of games cast. Oh, yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:49 My bad. Game Awards. Sorry, my bad. But, like, let's make, let's tell the stories that no one's hearing about behind the scenes of video games. It's like, of course. Like, why is no one else already doing this? And so many people have said that
Starting point is 00:35:02 and thought about that and Danny was trying to do it at a GameSpot and Colin was trying to do it at IGN, right? And the problem is, it's so hard for a big site to figure out how to make money on that and make it all make sense. But if it's all you're doing, it's easier.
Starting point is 00:35:14 It's the same when we used to be at IGN. I remember them being upset that we were going to podcast in the early days. Because they're like, well, that's losing us this many man hours. And it's not making us money because at the time, nobody had figured out how to monetize podcast for IGN. Whereas we were able to leave and figure it out pretty easy. Exactly. All we have to worry about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And that's definitely, I think, what's special about people leaving is they're able to, like, for most of these people, views don't matter. It's the people that matter. It's the people supporting. And I know that we've talked about this so many times. But like I love that this year we're seeing a new wave of people like with Danny doing this. Danny's doing totally something different. And Danny can get 200 views on his documentaries, but those 200 people are going to be like, fuck, this is good.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Thankfully, he's not getting too many views. He's getting a lot more than that. And that's cool because that's ushering in the whole new wave. And what we're seeing now is guys like you and Craig kind of looking at what wave one was, if I can even count it as that. And being like, oh, cool, they set this blueprint for how to do this. All we need to do is add our twist to it because we did that for wave zero, which was rooster teeth and whatever, looking at that and be like, we could do that, but slightly differently. And we did. And now you guys are doing us, but slightly differently. You know, kind of thinking about, like, I didn't really realize this before, but you know what it is? It's us doing what we want to do because we know we're going to have fun doing it. And we're going to do it well because we're going to be in control of our own quality. And then that's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:36:39 That's the key to content, right? If you're making a product you believe. leave in someone else will too. Yeah. Yeah. So like, you know, and they see it and the audience they get on board because they got your back. So yeah, it's the new wave. Do what you want to do. And it's been cool too to see you guys kind of, I was talking about this earlier today where you're kind of taking a more old school YouTube approach where you are talking about like, hey, like we're pushing for 100K subscribers by the end of the year and like subscribe. Let's make this a thing. And like these videos. If you, uh, want us to do more like this and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And it's like, it's oddly refreshing for me to see that because that's falling off so much in the last couple years, unless you're, I'm talking about in the gaming sphere of YouTube. Yeah. Obviously vloggers and all that stuff still do that. But I think it's cool that you guys are doing that because you're seeing so much success
Starting point is 00:37:29 with it. Whereas people like us, we push Patreon. We push, um, you know, merchandise or we push like community events like do these things. Like let's all have fun together.
Starting point is 00:37:38 But you're at that foundation level and the amount of success. you guys have seen is like really impressive to me because screw attack how many subscribers two million three million three point two i think three point two million subscribers that puts it in the upper echelon of all of the let's play network which is very fucking impressive but then you start your own thing and it's like all right well these guys leaving screw tech's not known for its personalities how well can that possibly do and it's like not that many people are going to jump over in the same way IGN seven point something million subscribers we leave we knew we were going to get a small fraction of that I thought we
Starting point is 00:38:17 hit a million pretty quick but that's not been the case did you really no god no you fucking get me no that was always the thing I joked around about when I started the YouTube channel when it was just game over Gregie and when I was just putting up a conversation with Colin and I was like oh great man like I have 9000 YouTube subs or it was more maybe it was 20 or something like that right 10 and I was like so I'm probably every video I put up probably going to get 11,000 right out the gate because I have 11,000 subs. And then that harsh reality of like, oh, a lot of people sub and never check back to see what the fuck's happening.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. But, I mean, you know, we're talking about like telling people like this, subscribe, you know, what do you want to see? We're still trying to figure out what our programming is. Like, even though we have like our, we have our solid schedule now too with this on this day and that many times a week. But like, you know, we want to grow to the point where we can do more stuff. You know, we need, we want more staff. We want to, we want to do crazy shit. We want to do like animated series and, you know, just make more creative content all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:20 So, like, we're really asking because we want to know what people want to see so we can adapt. Yeah, and I think that that's the important part. And what's cool about that is then the people that you gain are the people that are going to be with you. And they're the people that want to see you do the cool things. Yeah, yeah. That's why we're fucking lucky. 200,000 subscribers on YouTube. And I'm like, I don't give a fuck about.
Starting point is 00:39:39 your million or three million because we have the coolest 200,000. Like they are the people that support Nick making his animated show that it's like, what, why do people? We literally put out an episode about fucking, like where it was dogs and we barked as their voices. And it's like, people love it.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And that's awesome because those people, we're making it for those people. We can do kind of funny live and like do literally anything on stage and every single person there wants and believes in what we're doing. And that's fucking cool. Yeah. So you're doing that too because I saw like day one. you got like 10,000 subscribers.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And I was like, okay, cool. That's about what I thought. Yeah. From 3 million to 10,000. Like, cool. Yeah. But then you slowly kind of crawled up to 20, but then you guys really started pushing and you're at 60 now.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. It's been 45 days. Yeah. So from 20 to 60, you guys have really pushed through. Yeah. So, and we continue to push, which is why I'm here. And like, thank you so much. Well, you're here because we like you.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah. And you're actually here because of For Honor. Yeah. All that aside. Don't tell them that. I just, I just want to say one. thing. I am a country boy. Like, I'm from a place with dial-up, and it is a dream come true to be sitting here with you, Craig Miller. And I wish Colin was here. He might be in the other room. I don't
Starting point is 00:40:53 know if you. Did they ever come in, Kev? I know Nick came in, but then I heard the door in and no, yeah. No, that's the weird thing when you're like, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so old. Yeah, yeah. And I remember when, I'm blanking on the name, at SGC when we were doing the competition, the guy did the gone home thing again. What was his name? Sean. Why don't I just say Sean about everybody? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:14 He was like, when we got up there, he's like, I'm such a big fan. I'm like, oh, God, we're yelling at each other of being mean. He's like, no, no, your content helped me. I'm like, oh, God, and beyond most of me. Man, I don't know. How close? How long do these usually go for? Hour.
Starting point is 00:41:29 As long as you know. Shit, okay, I might need to save this for the end because you might kick me the fuck out if I tell you right now. No, you got to tell us now. No, you got to tell us now. Man, all right. I'm wanting to tell you this for like two years now, motherfucker. So you think that's funny Kevin?
Starting point is 00:41:44 I don't know what's happening. Okay, so I'm in my first apartment. I'm like 20 years old, right? Yeah. And man, I don't remember what it was, but I think you were doing, like, I'm in the country, right? Yeah. Never knew I'd be here.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Never knew I'd be here with Greg fucking Miller, all right? And Tim motherfucking Gettys. Okay. You wouldn't think it about it. Okay, okay. No, I didn't know who you were, but, uh, But one time on an IGN video, I commented that Greg Miller had a face that I could slap. And I've wanted since I knew I would be in the same space with you.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I've wanted you to slap me in the face as payback for me being a stupid little internet bitch. No, no eye for an eye. We don't need to do eye for an eye. You need rise of a... The best part was, I remember applying to IGN like two years later because I moved to Dallas and I had like some internship experience at Screw Tech and I was like, oh my God, I hope they don't see that comment I put about Greg Miller because then you started like doing up at noon
Starting point is 00:42:57 and I was like, God damn Greg Miller's fucking awesome. I was like, I like, I like Greg Miller and IGN's pretty cool. I want to work there, but what if they dig deep into my username and see that comment? I left when I was like 20. I would have loved to have done that. Yeah, that would have loved to have found that.
Starting point is 00:43:14 But that was the thing when I searched people. Because I was, I was a watchdog. I was the one who carried the IG in flag so proudly that when they'd bring somebody in and like, we're interviewing this person, they would give me the name and I would go off and look, look them up. That's actually a thing that happens?
Starting point is 00:43:28 When I was there, because I was the guy who's like, no, no, there still might be. I might have finally deleted it. But there was for a long time. Well, let me see what I said. I searched for that comment
Starting point is 00:43:40 because I was gonna spring that on you at SGC during the Screw Attack versus Greg Mood. Oh man, that would have been awesome. Kind of funny thing. I was gonna be like, I've hated you for years. I was gonna like do that thing, but I couldn't find it.
Starting point is 00:43:55 That would have been fucking awesome. So here on my phone there is a note from December 4th, 2012. And this must have been last time I updated it. At 7.18 a.m. It's titled, They Hate IGN. and it is a list of games journals or people who want to be in the games space that have talk shit when we were at IGN.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And now granted, I think it's important to call out that whenever I started this list, it was a different industry because there's people on here I now call friends and I do follow on Twitter and talk to all the time. But it was that time when everyone was so isolated on their islands that if personality X from site Y said something about IGN, they were a stranger to me and I knew they had an audience and I was mad that they said something like that about it.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And I remember one of our friends on this list, the comment he made in me being like, what the fuck? And now that I have clarity and I've been removed from the situation, I'm like, that's an apt comment. You nailed it, you know what I mean? But I keep him on the list or whatever. The list. I gave him on the list.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I had a list before Jericho. I had a list before Jericho had a list. But it only ever panned out once where people would be like, oh, because I was like your IGN personality test, right? Like I was the culture and like can you fit here? Are you going to be great? And I'd go out and socialize it with people. And like they're like for up at noon.
Starting point is 00:45:11 When we hired Drucker, right? Like it was they used to do like the, you know, eight hour interview where you'd go in one and one and talk to people for like 30 minutes. And I walked in, sat down and we bullshit for like five minutes. I was like, well, Nick's brought waffles. Do you want to go get a waffle? He's like, yeah. We walked over and ate waffles and watched like the pilots of up at noon.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I'm like, you're fucking dope. You'll be great. Yeah. Anyways, this one time they came in. Have ever told you this story? No. Tim. this one time it was when Casey Lynch was in charge
Starting point is 00:45:35 they were getting ready to hire I might have been managing editor I forget but it was some role they were hired and he's like all right this is one of the candidates that we like we're gonna bring in for an interview and it's like down to him
Starting point is 00:45:47 this person or that person I remember and I'm like all right great and so I ran through all the people and the one that was coming in for an interview like the next day I found and I found him on the internet talking shit about IGN and not only talking shit about IGN
Starting point is 00:46:01 talking shit about me. Was it like bad shit? It was the normal shit you'd expect. Like for me, he was making, he was, you know, talking shit about my Dead Space 2 review, of course, because it was so original to talk shit about that. And this is years later. I can't remember if my thing was in response to a review
Starting point is 00:46:17 that you had done. I don't think it was that petty yet. What's fascinating about you is I never thought, I don't know why I never clicked of like, all right, cool, what's their IGN username? Because it wasn't I was checking IGN comments. I was going to Google and like, name and quotes, IGN, name and quotes, Greg Miller,
Starting point is 00:46:31 in quotes. Name and quotes, IGE and socks. Name and, you know, like trying to find, and then I would go and do it. So this guy I found on message boards about video, and there was, I shouldn't say anything about titles, but there was a title of like, you know, video game journalism, whatever, and found him in there just fucking, there was a separate one about me and then two different ones years apart about IGN. And so I put it all in, I printed it all out, and I put it in a manila envelope. I love you.
Starting point is 00:46:54 No, no, you didn't. I did. And so we were going to have a lunch meeting. And so it was me, Casey Lynch and Damon Hatfield. And we went to Paragon with this guy. And we went in and we sat down. And I have the manila envelope in my lap. And I order my chicken sandwich because Paragon used to have the best buffalo chicken sandwich.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And I sat there. And like it's long enough that him and Dave, I don't say a fucking word. It's him, Damon, Casey. Him Damienk. And as the food comes, they start putting it down. And Casey goes, Greg, you've been quiet. Do you have anything to ask him? And like, if Tim's like Casey's next to me, do you have anything?
Starting point is 00:47:25 And I don't look at Casey. I'm looking at the guy. And I go, yeah, what do you think of me? And Damon is about to take a bite of him. He goes, do you say what does he think of you and I never break eye content? Like yeah, what do you think of me? And he's like, oh, I'm really, you know, a fan of what you've been doing with up at noon
Starting point is 00:47:39 and all these video projects. And, you know, you're really great personality. Really shines through. And I'm like, oh, great. I'm like, do you remember my Dead Space 2 review? And like, all the color drains out of his face. And he's like, um, I think I'm, I mean, yeah, I remember kind of. And I'm like, cool.
Starting point is 00:47:55 On December, whatever the fuck it was, you said da-da-da-da-da. I'm like, do you think that's a fair assessment of this review where I was trying to inject personality because my editor asked me to and like damon and casey are eating and they just let me go go go go and i'm like all right that's cool that's me and i'm like so what do you think about the direction of igan because less than a year ago you said that you know it was totally off course and it was like you know a piece of shit and blah blah that's the face he was making no no there was no there was nothing and he was just trying to maintain trying to maintain and i'm like i just went through all my paper i'm like all right cool and just ate my chicken sandwich and then we got up and
Starting point is 00:48:28 we walked back and case he's like oh i'll wait for you for your Uber or whatever the hell it was and me and Damon went in and as soon as the door closed Damon just goes that was awesome but like I mean I like everyone was done with their food and then like he had all his food in front of him and he just tried to eat it like while we're there but I'm like you can't fucking do that that's why I talk you know like when I call kids out on Twitter which I don't do as much anymore but when I used to make a big deal about it it wasn't fuck you for making fun of me it's hey this shit follows you like like I don't know if it's on here it was one of the kids I put up on a on a blog
Starting point is 00:49:00 I remember, right? IGN. No, I used to IGN blog all this stuff, right? And there was one kid who was like, Greg Miller's a fat cunt, he can go suck a tailpipe. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:49:12 tweet I got out of the blue one day or whatever. Suck a tail pipe. And I click. It's like a dick coming out of an ass. Well, he met die off carbon monoxide. I know, I know. Yeah, yeah. Just the way he was laughing at it.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And I click through and his bio's like, 17 aspiring video game journalist. And I'm like, not anymore, motherfucker. went to the blog and I put up things and I did this. Oh my best one ever. Thank you, Kevin. My best one ever was the same thing of just like out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I look at my Twitter and some guys like, fuck you, whatever, you fucking, but it's like further than that because I get those, whatever. You know what I mean? This one was for some reason like, this guy's interesting. And I clicked through to his profile and his Twitter pick was him hunting with a dead duck in his mouth. Like he had all the camo on the sunglasses and his like rifle and the dead, the duck's neck in his mouth and him like that.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And then it was like, Matt or whatever. Atlanta, his whole name, and I'm making up mad. Atlanta, Georgia. And then it was like a,
Starting point is 00:50:07 big fan of duck hug. It was a Bible verse. And like, when you looked it up, it was totally like, be good to your neighbor. And da, da, da, da, da. And I was like, okay. Cracked my knuckles.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And I went there and I titled the post, dear potential employer of whatever this guy's name was, Atlanta, Georgia. And I kept saying that over and over again in the post. And I'm like, he doesn't understand that he, because he was an adult. He had like children.
Starting point is 00:50:29 He doesn't understand. that in this day and age, everything he says gets cataloged. He's being a hypocrite here. And I know we all change and we all age, but he needs to learn right now that there is a lesson about this and that he can't go around thinking he can just shoot. There was a kid once who did it. I'm fucking crazy, Tim.
Starting point is 00:50:47 This is another great one. And this must have been 20-10-ish. You see the look in this eye? Some kid did something like that, shot off at the mouth. I forget what he did, but it was something stupid, right? And I went through and I looked him up and I was like, okay, cool. And it was something similar of like some fucking bullshit Bible verse here.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Like he's going to talk, he's going to talk talk, not walk the walk. And I was like, okay. And I'm looking at it. I'm like, all right, cool. Facebooked him, found out what university went to, found out what his major was going to be, then went and messaged the dean of his school. And I was like, hey, again, not doing this to get him in trouble, but you need to teach your students that there are repercussions for what happens. So just go and show him that this is how fucking crazy people are on the internet that I will
Starting point is 00:51:29 look you up and talk to your fucking parents and or Dean if I need to. My favorite, my favorite on the list right now, and I won't say the name of course, is from E32012. And I think you might have been with me, maybe not, because we were around each other.
Starting point is 00:51:46 I don't know. We left the IGN party. Do you remember this? And maybe you weren't there. I was leaving the IGN party with some other IGNers. And as we're leaving, there's a guy there and he's talking mad shit about Fran Mirabella. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And he's just like, fuck, Fran Mirabella the third and blah, and I was like, hey man, what's going on? He's like, blah, blah, blah, fran. He's like, oh, but you work for IGN, right? I'm like, yeah, but I hate Fran too. And he's like, oh, yeah, awesome, because Fran said this, that. And I let him go, and I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And then he got to the end, he's like, but I'd love to give you a business card. And I'm like, no, motherfucker, you just fell for it. And I'm drunk. I'm like, you will never, and I took the business card. I'm like, you will never work for IGN again. Fran's one of my fucking best friends. Fuck you. Don't come to an E3 party and talk shit about the thing.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I'm fucking railing on this kid just walked away and it was another one of those everybody's like that was awesome this snap his neck this is awesome I love this I didn't know any of this shit about you
Starting point is 00:52:37 Firebrand Tim Is there more Wow I mean there's an endless list of people who are like that There was um No there was um I mean I'll never be able to dig it up here
Starting point is 00:52:52 but I think I finally started letting it go But uh I started letting you go It's not gone A ways back, I was one of those things where I was, you know, airplane mode. I didn't want to play into my games. It was like an L.A. flat or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:04 So I was like, I'm going to clean out my photos, right? And I started going, because every photo I've ever taken in my iPhone is still on my iPhone from when I got it when Obama got elected. The first time. And I was going and I start running into screencaps of me screencapping motherfuckers who were like the guy who's like, oh, fucking suck a tailpipe or whatever. And I think I might have deleted them, but they might still have screenshots in here of when I was like, no, no, no, fuck these people.
Starting point is 00:53:31 At one point, I was going to dig through my 20,000 photo. Okay. So, Tim, I brought up that story because I thought it would be a fun little conversation piece. And I honestly just wanted to teach the lesson that, like, it doesn't matter if you live three hours outside of Dallas in a town of 4,000 people. You might get the opportunity to sit with Greg Miller or anybody else that you admire on the internet. So never talk shit to anyone on the internet. Just don't. Just be nice.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Be good. That's why I wanted to bring it up. But now I just, can you just watch him and make sure that, like, I'm going to be okay when I leave? Oh, you're fine. I mean, that wasn't even a bad one. I understand being young and stupid. And that's the whole thing. Because that is the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Like, yeah. I talk about it all the time, right? Of, like, I'm lucky the internet didn't exist in the way it exists now. Because when I'm, again, when I'm blogging about these kids or blowing them up on Twitter and quote tweeting them. Controverse. And they delete their Twitter account. It's not me saying. defend me. It's me saying,
Starting point is 00:54:29 this looks really dumb and you shouldn't do it. It's the same way, I know this is a tired story for everyone out there, but it's the same way I always throw myself on the fire of like, I used to say gay all the time growing up. I mean, that's gay, that's gay. And even call your friends fags, right? And it's not, I was never being like, you're being such a homosexual, right?
Starting point is 00:54:46 But then I went to college and met diverse people and they were like, hey, I'm gay, that's offensive. You're like, oh, fuck, I shouldn't do that. And I don't tell that story to brag about I used to say gay, you know what I mean? I'm saying, I would look like an idiot, but no one was there to tell me I look like an idiot. I'm still looking through to see if I have any more.
Starting point is 00:55:02 This reminds me of the Alana story, which I think is the most fucking badass thing ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, like, she, if you don't know, Alana Pierce over at IGN, now, before she was there, she lived in Australia, and she had a YouTube channel, and she still does, it's successful,
Starting point is 00:55:17 and more subscribers than you guys have. Burn! Wait, is it more than us? No, one day it will be. I just want you know that Alana is charming and a DJ and talented and way more talented than we are, so I'm glad. So, yeah, but she went through her comments and a bunch of people saying
Starting point is 00:55:37 horrible things about, like, raping her, and she called up or like somehow contacted. She went through Facebook and found their mothers. Found all their mothers and set the messages with, like, this is what your son's saying. Yeah, thanks about women. Damn, son. Like that.
Starting point is 00:55:51 So, yeah. So don't do stupid shit. Even BuzzFeed was like, look what Alana did to these shit. Kids. Like, that's when you know you did something right. When BuzzFeed is like, this girl got harassed. Then he told her their mothers.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Guess what happened? I'm speechless. That's what I know you did it right. Gray, I didn't know you had these moments. I mean, I can't imagine. Well, it's because I'm, I can't remember if I let him go because I just found like the positive ones. I just found the first time Evan Wells ever tweeted about me from Noddy Dog. Like that's, you know, a good moment that I'm probably saved here.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I saved good moments. I think I started letting him go. But some of them were so great of just like, oh, I'm going to fucking get this good. And that's the worst thing about the IGN when they switch over to my IGN or whatever it is with their whole blog system is that so many of them are lost to the ages. You know what I mean? So many posts like this. Like I can't, I'll try to search for certain things and you get to the page where it should be, but you got to dig down. But I can't go past what it is because they're fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I remember looking for it last year and I couldn't find it because it was just old. Yeah, they switched over to discuss or whatever the comment system is. Man. Holy shit We've been on a ride, sir I love this That's just so fucking great It's be good to people, you know
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yeah That's the moral of this entire story You know, I think we can We can wrap up Yeah Are you good to each other? Yeah, I'm fine I mean you can keep
Starting point is 00:57:10 I'm already, I'm getting pretty close I'm in 2011 so Okay, seems like I'm starting to roll You know I just I'm just gonna stall for a second While you find that No
Starting point is 00:57:20 Did you rhino line your phone No this is what happens when leather is in your pocket for a couple of years. All right. So it turns out I have not let it go. The tweet was on August 11th, 2011 from someone who says, also at Game Over Greg, you can go deep throw at a car exhaust. Can't stand that cunt, complete cunt.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Wait, does it say can't stand that cunt, period? Complete cunt. And it's, I favoriteed it. I should have just gone out. And then, yeah, it goes here, gaming, gamer, aspiring journalist, co-founder of whatever the fuck this is. Yes, let's go see if this motherfucker's still doing shit. It's like,
Starting point is 00:57:56 I want to know what he's doing! Meanwhile, Gia text me. Did she send picks? She's in class, so she can't send picks, unfortunately. But she didn't ask, do I need to go to the bathroom right now? What if it was? It's okay. No, she says it's oxytocin,
Starting point is 00:58:18 which is the cuddle hormone, which is the most Gia fucking thing of all. time. But also she's like, and wait, my shoulder one, why are you hitting on the second chakra? So I guess it's the second chakra. Chakra, is that, am I saying that right? Is that like the seventh sign, the second chakra? I don't even know. So what if you found this user and it was Kevin?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah. Oh, no, that's not the one on a shoulder. That's the one in the sexy place. Is that a vagina? That is, is. Kevin left, left, down, down, down, down and left. Big Col Moriorei! Oh, it does
Starting point is 00:58:58 kind of look like one. Right there, yeah. Can you put that on the screen, Kev? Yeah. I mean, Thank you. Is it a vagina or is it a vagina? Colin, is that a vagina to you? No, Colin's saying no, and he would know. Okay. Anyways, all right. Are we done, Greg? Yeah, I'm done. Okay. Well, Sean, thank you very much for joining us.
Starting point is 00:59:15 No, you shut that hole in your face. I will. Thank you for having me. I will. It was an honor, and I hope Ubisoft will invite me to another event soon so I can come to your studio instead. That's all things are. You should go subscribe. YouTube.com slash game attack. They're doing cool stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:34 And if you like the stuff they're doing, let me know so we can do more stuff like what they're doing. Because I want to be doing that shit soon. Greg, as always, thank you for joining me, blah, blah, blah. And also, fuck, I love you. I know I love you. I know I love you. I know I always loved you, but like fuck, I love you more than I thought I did. Well, that's why recently you told a story about somebody starting to talk shit about kind of funny,
Starting point is 00:59:50 which I never hear. Oh yeah. And I was like, oh, that got me. That brought all this back up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, but see. And it's funny because as you were saying all this stuff, it kind of hit me in the same way because it reminds me of that.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Yeah. And it's funny because it's one of those situations where all the things you're naming are when you are just so in the right. Yeah. That you should just let it go. Yeah. But because you're so in the right, you don't. And you just fucking, it's like a straight up. It's like fighting someone in a fighting game and they don't even have a controller.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Like you're just beating the fuck out of them. They have nothing they can do. Fatality. It's fucking over. Because like, yeah, the guy of the interview, he had no chance. He couldn't defend himself. You were sitting there. You were so prepped.
Starting point is 01:00:36 He had no idea was going to happen. And then he got fucking destroyed. That story, like, even though you just told it to me and I believe it's 100% true, it almost feels like a fantasy that I had in my head. I mean, like I can't believe that really happened. I talk about it all time because, like, it was. It was my dream, right? To totally fucking tear one of these assholes who wants to talk shit about IGN,
Starting point is 01:00:56 but when they have the chance to come work for IGN, oh, all of a sudden, oh, you're such a great side. That I'll never forget when we were walking there, and they were talking to him, and I was shaking with adrenaline.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Like, I was so fucking ready for anyone to ask me to do anything. Yeah. I mean, for me, recently, the same thing happened, but it was a real life confrontation.
Starting point is 01:01:14 And I was like, it started. I'm like, there's no way this is actually happening right now. I was like, I never engaged in this shit. but it's engaging me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Oh, my, and I just fucking went off. And it felt so good, but I shouldn't have. That's the thing is I shouldn't have done it. Didn't need to do it. Maybe people in our position should just start doing that and put it into it all. What do you mean? Hate only breeds hate.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Yeah, I know. I know. We should just let it go. Yeah, let it go. It's always better. We got it. We knew you're going to do the song. There's the song.
Starting point is 01:01:47 All right. Until next time, I love you. All right. I love you, too. Thank you. Oh, I love them. Yeah, I'm sorry. You know I love you guys. Come on. How many times I got to fucking write it or say it, you pieces of shit, huh? You want to fucking come at me?

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