Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - We Played Mario + Rabbids, Logitech G Cloud - Kinda Funny Gamescast
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What's up everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller,
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The globe trotting, headshotting, rootin, tooting, nitro rifle from Twitch.com, TV, Andy Cortez.
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what you think of their 3 AM press release. Oh, what a fucking joke.
What an absolute
fucking joke.
I mean, it doesn't really affect me
anyway.
I've been getting fuck since day one.
Had I started streaming a couple of weeks
or months prior,
maybe I would have gotten a better revenue split.
But imagine, like,
if you were making 200K a year,
you make your first 100K,
and it's no longer 200K,
now that's what?
What's the math on this?
50, 50?
Yeah, I'd be 150.
50K.
50K.
That's crazy.
That 100 case is then.
Pretty wild,
if you have no idea
we're talking about,
kind of funny.
Daily, everybody, do find out why everybody's mad at Twitch.
Of course, the one man who's not mad at Twitch,
because he never gets mad.
He's the master of hype, Snowbike Mike.
Never been mad in all of my days, Greg Miller.
I'm happy as a clam, and I'm streaming over on Twitch,
just having a good time.
You fucking company, man.
I can't wait to be in the office and see you lose your cool for the first time
and see what it's like when Snowbike Mike blows his top,
because it's got to happen out there, you know?
We'll find out.
We'll find out.
I'm on to you, Ted Lasso.
We'll see what you're about over there.
And then, of course, he's one of the hosts of the kind of funny X-Cast.
He's the best voice in the business.
It's Paris Lilly.
Hello, Paris.
How are you doing, Greg, with two Gs?
No, it was Paris Lilly with one L.
And Greg with one G as well, all right?
I don't know how it happened, Paris.
Because, well, I actually do know, because you're one of these types.
Ladies and gentlemen, if Greg Miller can give you a free piece of advice, all right?
If you're going to try to be anybody in this world, don't get crafty and clever with your fucking Twitter names.
All right?
first, last, put it there.
The amount of times I try to search for somebody
and I can't fucking find them because they've got,
I'm a Halloween pumpkin, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
and then their name is in their name either, whatever.
And Paris just wants to be Paris.
Just wants to be Paris out there.
Yes, keep it simple.
So I know, of course, how many ours are in Paris, there's two.
And then, of course, Lily always throws me.
I'm like, wait, are there two else or is there one else?
And I Google around and get just Paris, Paris, Paris.
And so I checked it today.
I wrote it.
And it had two Ls in it.
And I swear to God, it had two Ls.
when I hit tweet.
I had done the thing.
I had seen your LinkedIn.
I'm like,
all right,
two else got it right.
And I still somehow screwed it up.
Screwed the pooch, Andy.
I have an amazing kind of little anecdote to tell you.
When I was creating everybody for the kind of funny football league,
which you can watch on kind of funny plays and kind of funny games,
Twitch and all that fun stuff.
I was,
I got to Paris,
who I put on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
And for some dumb fucking reason,
reason. Like, I just have a terrible brain, awful memory. And I was like, it reminds me like
Sancho West how like, Sancho West doesn't give out his full first and last name. I was like,
well, Paris doesn't want to give out his last name. So I'm just going to name his last name
vicious, like his Twitter profile. And then like, I don't know why I saw him in the game. And I was like,
why did I name him vicious? It should have been Lily. And I was like, wait, it's because I forgot that,
like, oh my God, it's just a terrible brand. What's happening up here, Greg? Can we get somebody in here?
It's just people aren't like you and me, Andy. They understand.
that, hey, I want to be a big deal.
So I'll make up some stupid moniker about this one thing I rode down a mountain once.
I'm not even around snow.
Oh, man.
I'm getting a stray boy.
Not even fucking around snow.
I'm snowmike, Mike, everybody.
If we're doing airing agreements,
every time I open my fucking phone to text Mike,
it doesn't go to Mike.
I got to go out, I got to write snow.
I got to write fucking snow to get the name to pop up.
Fucking hell.
I wasn't aware we were doing an airing agreement.
Quick question here.
Ladies gentlemen, that's Kevin and Coelho on the ones and twos.
Hello, Kevin.
How are you?
In a bag of salsa verde Dorito chips.
So I'm doing pretty fucking well.
I was going to say,
does the iPhone not allowed to add nicknames to contacts so that when you search them,
it comes up as like...
Kevin, here's what I want you to know.
I want you to be in my scenario for a second, right?
Jen's over there, slaving away on a meal for me and Ben.
I'm juggling Ben and my phone like I got groceries coming in from a busy New York subway,
all right?
What do I got?
Knock at the front door.
What's going on in the backyard, rats and all sorts of weird-ass animals doing weird shit.
I go to type in Mike's name and I put in snow.
I do it.
I don't have the free band with her time that after the text message,
I then go and edit the contact.
Who's got time for that?
Do right now.
Edit right now.
I'm in the middle of hosting a show.
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I'm over here spinning plates right now.
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I love you,
you want me to go into my contacts
and break it up,
a change to Mike's name.
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For now, let's talk about Mario Plus Rabbids Sparks of Hope.
Of course, it is coming out October 20th on the Nintendo Switch.
It's the sequel to Mario Plus Rabbits Kingdom Battle.
2017 that has an 85 on Metacritic snow bike Mike also known as Mike Howard you and
did this I'm sure you had a hell of a time I want to hear all about it Mike how is Mario
plus Rabbit sparks of hope fantastic and that's the fun part about the games cast sometimes we get
to talk about really awesome stuff and today myself and pairs get to talk about a really awesome game
which is the sequel to a game that I think at first we all looked at said say what why is Mario
and the Rabbins teamed up.
And also, we dubbed it Baby's first X-Com, right?
I think a lot of people were like, wow,
I didn't think this tactical RPG game could be fun here with this setting.
But that was the question going in,
is what I looked at Paris when we were waiting in line
before we jumped into the preview is,
how do you improve upon such a successful foundation
with the original and come back with a sequel
that's even better and more engaging?
And I really am impressed with what Ubisoft, Paris, and Milan did
with this sequel. It is super fun. It is engaging. And me and Paris are going to go really in depth
on a lot of things. But I think it is awesome for veterans of the franchise and the genre, really,
for these tactical combat games. It has a lot of layers. It is built off of the great foundation
from the original and has added a lot of awesome combat and exploration features that players
are going to really like. And then on the flip side, we'll talk about the gridless system
that a lot of people will see on the combat side.
I think that is very welcoming and fun for new players.
So if you're not big into the tactical combat genre,
you're really going to find this more inviting
and a little less overwhelming and saying,
ooh, that's a lot going on on the screen.
I think it takes kind of that burden away.
And of course, having Mario and Rabbits is just fun, family-friendly,
will make you chuckle,
and it's just inviting for all ages.
So really impressed with the preview that we had.
I cannot wait to go a little bit more.
depth with Paris because there's a lot of cool things to talk about.
Paris, do you concur with all this?
As you know, Mike, crazy.
Certifiably insane.
Do you back this up?
You know what I mean?
We can't trust this man.
He rides a snow bike.
Honestly, I couldn't have said it any better.
I think Mike is pretty spot on with his assessment of it.
I think, well, we'll go into it more, but the change from the grid system is probably the
biggest takeaway from this and how when you first hear it, you're like,
like, wait, why are you doing that?
But then once you start playing it, you understand like, oh, this makes a lot of sense.
And it makes it definitely more welcoming and inviting for people to kind of jump into this
tactical genre and start playing this type of game.
It was a lot of fun, really, really good.
So start there with me, Paris, because I played the original Mario Plus Rabbids enjoyed it.
I, of course, I'm an excom fan from when they made the jump over to consoles and I enjoy that
kind of gameplay.
Of course, when I stop there and I think of it, I think of the grid.
So how is this working this time around if there is no grid?
So the way it's working now, first of all, you can basically kind of detach and scout the area.
And you can see where all the enemies are and you can kind of pre-stratage on how you want to handle things.
Does that cost you action points or anything like that?
No, it does not.
It doesn't cost you anything.
And that's the beauty of it.
So then because you're free to kind of roam in your area that you're allowed to with your character.
So you can kind of pre-scout out, all right, I'm going to put this character over.
over here, I want to put them over there.
And then there's the jump functionality to where if I want to kind of cheat and get a character to another part of the map, you can you can do the jump function and get them over there and kind of stage them where you want them to be and vice versa, bring them back if you need to.
So it makes it easier for people to just pick up and start playing because it definitely makes more sense than it does with the grid system.
So a lot of people that like you said, XCOM will see that and it's very off putting where this.
not that it's a Mario game
but it feels more
I have more freedom to move around
I think that's the best way to say it
I would say like that's the thing
as you talk about it and explain it away
somebody who's played so much Xcom and done
obviously right is this
even more
baby's first Xcom is this even more
making it easier okay okay yeah
definitely but not in a bad way though
but definitely not a bad way not an insult at all
like yeah yeah I was going to say Mike
is that the same thing you're taking away from this grid list system
Yeah, the gridless system, I think, makes it more dynamic and a little bit more fluid for you to run around and enjoy.
Instead of having the cursor and counting grid tiles and trying to figure out where you were, like Paris said, it was really fun to jump onto the battlefield, these awesome handcrafted battlefields, and be able to look at all three of your heroes and click on one, run around its full cone of area that you're allowed to be in, right, and kind of scout around, really figure out where you want to be.
and then it's that fun Venn diagram type vibe
where you can see the overlap of your other heroes
and you can kind of pick where,
hey, if I team them up here,
we can use each other's abilities next to each other,
which was really cool.
But yeah, the movement and it being more fluid
without the grid and the cursor
is actually making for a lot more fun
and kind of emerging gameplay
where you're more active and involved in it,
which I really, really like.
And then as Paris also said here,
I was really impressed with what they did
on the movement side.
He alluded to the jumping mechanic, right?
The team jump is now a thing where if two of your heroes get next to one another,
you can bounce off the other one and be able to float a certain amount of distance,
left, right, center, whatever, and give yourself a new tactical advantage
or put yourself in a new position to succeed, which is actually a ton of fun and well thought out.
On the flip side, there's a new mechanic as well called the dash now,
which you can dash in to certain opponents and cause damage without using any of your
your ability points.
So you have one or possibly three, depending on the sparks that you have, dash movements,
and you can bang into enemies.
And that will cause damage like we're seeing on the screen right now if you're watching
on YouTube.
And that can be used up to one to three times.
And that makes the movement and kind of the dynamic battle feel really, really fun and fluid,
which I've found to be engaging.
The one thing is I'm watching this, and I know we're hopping around between different clips
and stuff like that.
But Kevin, if you can double back to the one you were just showing of them coming
through the tube coming out and fighting a bit.
What I'm having trouble even looking at an understanding
and what I imagine in an audio listener might struggle with too is,
so is this ring, the halo there that was just out?
Is that as far as you can move?
Yes.
Like that's it.
That's it.
That is your new grid, we'll call it,
where you would see the tiles and you'd be able to move five tiles.
This is just your cone of being able to move.
But here's a thing with that.
So like you see where Mario is now, right?
He's like at the edge of that.
So when you bring this,
And he's literally doing it.
So that's the jump mechanic.
So if I want to get to that other side where I'm at the edge of my barrier,
you use the team jump to get another character over there.
And then you can,
then you have the freedom to move around and, you know,
get behind a barrier or whatever you need to do.
Unlimited movement in the ring.
And then obviously you pick where you're going to stop.
And that's where you then choose your action in this turn base thing of I'm going to shoot
or I'm going to throw or I'm going to do it.
Exactly.
Okay.
So the, okay, I get it then.
Now I'm wrapping my head around it.
You know, for me, it's a Valkyria Chronicles ideal.
And that's the thing, because I think when a lot of people watch these preview videos, to your point, it makes a lot more sense when you're controlling the character.
Of course, isn't that every game?
Every time you're behind it sticks, it becomes intuitive.
But when you're watching this, not fully understanding, you've got to figure it out.
What are there, are there any limitations?
Did you feel any kind of like, oh, I wish I was able to have this mechanic or I wish I was able to do this during your gameplay session?
And how long was the gameplay session if they allow you to say that?
I'm trying to remember.
I think what did we get, Mike?
About a good three and a half, three and a half.
I played about four hours.
Yeah, yeah, about three and a half, four hours.
Yeah.
Something like that.
A fair amount of chunks.
And no, Andy, I didn't really feel limited in my movement or any of the traversal
techniques, right?
Because you still have the warp pipes that you see in any sort of Mario game, right?
That can get you from one side of the map to the other.
I think the team jump really elevated it.
I think at first you feel limited when you see the,
the movement cone and you go, okay, I can just move left or right and get behind this cover.
But once you really start to think about the warp pipes and the team jump, it really opens up
a new, just kind of like broadening of, oh, I can go here, I can go there, I can put myself in a
better position.
And I was really impressed with that once you really took the time to think about it just a little
bit extra there, especially with the dash mechanic of getting in close and knowing that I have
three free hits essentially on an enemy before I start to use those abilities.
points was really
something special
that I worked on
on the back half of our
Now I think
the big thing
that's going to change
is up from
the first game
is going to be
those sparks
because it really adds
another layer of strategy
to when you're coming
into these battles
on which spark
you're going to choose
and so what are the sparks
that I'm seeing them here
but are they like spirits
are they like pets
yeah that's a good question
how would you define
these sparks
I guess
are these spirits
are new characters
Yeah, sparks are definitely new characters.
They are going to be the main part of this story.
And what those sparks are doing is they're adding certain,
oh, I had it written down right here.
I mean, we're seeing it right there.
Is it like certain abilities and mechanics?
Like, not like abilities, more like, um, stats.
Like, yeah, like you'll get flame damage or you'll get.
Yeah, turn in.
Splash damage, poison, yeah.
So I believe it's like 30 of them because when I had my interview,
they were talking about they went wild with like 150,
but they really dialed them in.
And then each one has a certain ability that will be tacked on.
And you can actually have two sparks per character here that will all add different effects
in damage buffs or even defense buffs to help that character in certain different ways.
So I had one that was kind of like a reflector shield.
Anything that got hit to me, a certain part of that damage would go back to the enemy.
Another one, like I said, will cause you to go invisible.
You can move without getting hit by enemies and be able to reposition yourself.
So some really cool stuff and an added element.
to the RPG system and kind of your combat.
And when I had a chance to interview with the creative director,
check out of Gamer Tech Radio, it's a great interview.
But when I got to talk to him, yeah, I know, you know I got to promote.
But when I got to talk to him, we talked about the exact thing that Mike is talking about
with the sparks and then just kind of the weapon progression,
how you're going to be able to upgrade your character to weapons, the sparks, etc.
And I asked him, is this going to be a game where when we get to the later
stages, is the difficulty going to ramp up to the point where we're going to get this tough
challenge for people? And he's like, absolutely. That is part of this. This is a game that's
going to ease you into it, but is really going to challenge you by the time that you get to the end.
And then that's where you're really going to have to start strategizing with the weapons that
you're going to select, with the sparks that you're going to use in these different scenarios.
So I thought that was pretty interesting. Are you free to switch sparks at will? Is there a penalty?
Is it like before we like matchup you would go through and do it?
Or can you just do whatever?
Yeah, what is it?
It's basically right when you lock into an encounter.
You have the opportunity to pick what you want.
But once you're engaged into it, you're locked in.
Yeah, you'll be able to switch on the on the fly before the encounters.
And then what I thought was really cool pairs.
Like you said, that ramp up of difficulty, we felt the difficulty spike towards the end of our play session.
Yeah.
Went to the first boss battle.
And Greg and Amy, let me tell you what I got my butt handed to me a couple of times, right?
But the cool part is they give you two options, like we've seen in all games.
There's restart from the very beginning of the encounter, right?
Or there's multi-phases to certain encounters that you're going to hit.
And they had a really great restart at checkpoints where instead of going back to phase one of it,
I would go back to my phase three that I was on, which really saved a lot of time.
And the cool part about that is, once again, you can reorganize your sparks and characters
and be able to re-chews, which was really, really cool.
So I liked that.
And that's nice.
That's lovely.
You'll notice.
There's nothing more I hate than feeling like I wasted a bunch of time.
Like, granted, yeah, sure, I learned something,
but then I have to go back and do the other waves,
and then you screw up something on the early wave
that's, you know, like, I didn't screw that up the first time
when I had the good run.
That was me playing a death loop.
It was me playing return.
God fuck, I forgot all these stupid guns.
And we talk about the sparks,
but then, of course, there are your main heroes, right?
The Mario characters, along with the rabid characters.
Yeah, I was still like, Mike, did you see dry bones?
Did you see my boy dry bones?
I unfortunately have not seen dry bones.
He is nowhere inside.
What are you afraid of?
That's a DLC.
You got to buy that one.
Yeah,
well,
Fair enough, I'll do it.
Maybe it's a you play a real word.
Talk about DLC.
I was doing some,
looking up before we had this conversation.
It looks like Rayman will be joining that.
So I thought that was a kind of cool little nod there in one of the DLCs.
But it is really fun to look at all of the heroes.
They're different art types, right?
You have kind of the bruiser set.
You have the,
I'm in the background sniper set of Luigi.
You have more melee focus characters.
and like it is really cool to match them up
because I noticed when we started to ramp up
in difficulty I was running like
three bruiser slash melee characters
and the guy looked to me and was like
you might want to reassess what you're bringing
into this battle and so that was really cool
that's not going to end well
there's a reason there's different classes
they work together
and they did not yeah because I mean you think of it
like in RPG terms you know you're going to want your
healer class in there to be able to hear your
characters you're going to want your tank
that's going to run in you're going to want your ranged
character and then that's the other thing where you can kind of pre-scout with the enemies and you can
see what their weaknesses are so you want to make sure you get a spark that could do burn damage or
if it's a splash thing get you poison whatever the case and kind of mix and match those between
the characters that you have so you can be the most effective you can be yeah it was really
really cool on that and there's each one has their own like special weapon they all have their own
special ability and each one has different like special traits so rosalina
Her rabid was able to like pause everybody on the battlefield and lock them down for a whole
round essentially, which was really helpful for repositioning, taking advantage of one, maybe
just focusing on the boss round that I needed.
It was cool to see each and every one of them have their own unique abilities and traits
that really elevate the synergy when you use all three correctly.
Yeah, because I did like a combo.
I think it was this Rosalina that had it?
I forget who had it.
But the combo where I would, for lack of a better term right now,
select her super, which would basically buff all my other characters to do more damage.
And then I would have Mario who had like that the hero double gun thing.
And I was strategically set him because I knew when these,
these enemies would try and come around the corner,
he would just take them out.
Right.
And because he's doing more damage,
he'd be able to do it in one shot.
So it's like those type of things that you want to think about when you're setting
everything up.
Or if I knew a character was going to be exposed by an enemy.
I knew the character was going to get hit, I would then have like a healing buff that I would put out there so they wouldn't take as much damage because I knew it was going to happen when their turn came around.
Things like that.
And like Mike said, when they put us in the later stages of the game and this wasn't even the hardest part, you're like, okay, I definitely see where this is going to have to start thinking about my weapon placement, my spark placement, all that stuff is really going to factor in towards the end of the game.
I've had a lot of
kind of issues and annoyances
with recent switch games
I feel like sometimes
I feel like over time they've started to look worse
and a lot of that kind of started with Mario Golf
and I feel like that just kind of kept on
getting a snowball effect and like God
when will game ever look like
you know fucking Mario
3D world or whatever
like how are we visual fidelity
what are we talking here does it look
good for a switch game at least
I don't know, look good for a game period.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I think you get a little grace period, Andy, in these Mario art style type games, right,
as opposed to looking at other games compared on the Switch, right?
And so it looked great to me.
I was really impressed with the art style, the color, everything that I was seeing.
But I think you get to hide behind that when you jump into this kind of more cartoony art style of Mario.
Yeah, I think that style definitely translates a lot better.
like even looking back at Mario Odyssey
that game is so old at the inception of the switch
and it still looks like God tier
yeah.
This is a rough one and I guess it's a question
for both you, Mike and Paris.
I played the original Mario Plus Rabbids.
I enjoyed it.
I don't believe I finished it,
but I put a lot of hours into it.
I remember when at the time it dropped,
Kevin and I were playing a lot of it.
were you guys into it as well or is this your first four way?
No, I was definitely into it.
I really enjoyed the first one.
I only put a couple of hours into it,
probably about four maximum.
Just don't use the switch as much as I would like.
Sure, I understand.
Paris, the question then for you would be like,
I don't remember, was the class system there?
Was there the whole thing of needing a different class makeup
and load out for all that?
Or was it, I know sparks weren't.
I'm trying to remember.
No, it was.
It was in the sense of, like you're saying,
they've amped it up now with the sparks.
That's kind of the game changer on that.
So does this feel totally different to you?
No, no.
The movement feels different.
Again, I think the biggest thing is it's added another layer of strategy
onto it with the sparks because that's basically giving you
another thing to use in an attack mode or in a defense mode,
depending on what the scenario is.
Oh, I didn't even thought about it for defense.
Yeah.
And then like I said, the fact that you have more freedom on kind of pre-scouting out how you're going to encounter each situation with the way the movement is now.
It's the difference.
But the core, like, characters and everything, they didn't really change it, change that much from them from the previous game.
Of course, everybody remembers the story so well.
Like, is it, you know, I just thought it was cool that you had the Mario characters and the rapid characters together.
Like, like, and that's the funny thing about it because I even said that when I talked to the creative director is,
It just felt like it these characters always just felt like they made sense to be together, right?
And, you know, I asked him about I want to go that far.
I want to go that far.
Well, I will.
I will.
I remember when that popped up the first time we were all like, I think it was Mike who said,
we were all like, what?
Say, well, I guess in the sense of once you start playing it, it felt, it felt good,
but I know what you mean.
They kind of feel like, yeah, the little rabbits feel like little fuckers you find in the
Mario.
Yeah, they're totally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, I asked him about the relationship with the partnership with,
Ubisoft and Nintendo, and he's just saying how great Nintendo has been great partners, you know, with Ubisoft as far as doing this collaboration. And I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be the end. It definitely seems like we're going to see this go on long term. Because again, it's a fantastic game. A lot of people enjoy the first one. I think people are going to enjoy the second one. But we'll see when we get the final product. Mike, you're going to say some of there. Oh, yeah, I was just, I was going to bring up the skill tree. I was really impressed with because not only can you level up the sparks now and have, you know, those, you know, those.
damage buffs elevated, but also the skill tree for each of the main characters and heroes.
I love a skill tree that allows me to experiment and try and put points into certain pieces
and then say, you know what? I didn't like any of that.
Retry and put all the points back into new things, right?
And so that's a cool part as well, is you can do that on the fly at any moment.
You can respect all of these characters with their skill trees, which I really, really.
So now, Mike, based on what you say, I knew you played this, you enjoyed it.
and I know that I'm never going to hold you to this.
It's a preview yet a year.
But you're talking about your switch not getting as much use as you want it to.
Do you see this being a similar situation as the first one where you play a little bit of it, put it down and walk away?
Or do you think you're in it for the long haul?
Yeah, probably, Greg.
I mean, I really, really like this.
But the limited amount of times that my switch gets turned on, it is probably a low likelihood that I see this all the way through.
I bet you I'll jump in on this at launch, probably play a good two nights of this.
And then until we start to travel and I actually have the switch with you moving.
around that I don't see me playing any more of this and taking up my main gaming time.
What about blessing?
Yeah.
Don't even give me starting out blessing.
You ever see this video?
He buys it and then he forgets about it for a year or whatever.
He was like, I know I think I bought it last year.
I was like, yeah, you bought it on stream saying you were going to play it.
He stopped and played it.
Harris, what about you?
No, it's funny that Mike says that because like if anyone's watching video, you can see my switch behind me.
it doesn't move.
It's been sitting there for a while.
This will obviously prompt me to want to pick it up
because I'm going to want to play it.
But in a weird way,
I almost wish this wasn't on the switch
because I feel like I would absolutely play it a lot more of it.
I just feel like the switch is not something
that I've been gravitating to,
honestly,
and probably a good year.
So maybe this will re-spark me
to want to get on the switch and complete it,
but we'll see.
I hope.
Oh, nice job as well.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm rabid for someone to play more switch.
Fuck.
I do want to give a couple of quick shoutouts as we start.
I'm sure turn before you get out of here.
I want to give a big shout out to the world design, right?
There are these beautiful planets that they put a lot of time into.
And what I thought was really cool is they're elevating the exploration,
as Kevin's showing right now over on the YouTube video,
is you kind of go into these different planets and they have like these,
we'll call it hub, open world.
type vibes, right? They're not massive by any means, but you're walking around and you're getting
lost and exploring with the team, which I thought was really cool. There's fun, you know,
coin challenges that you can do. There's side quests now that you can go get and do some more
extra activities and earn coins to buy at the shopkeeper, you know, level up. I thought that was
really cool. But each one of the battlefields are so well done, right? There's destructible combat
environments and cover systems, right? Each one of the phases,
on the boss fight, the map changed in certain ways and different lines of sight were changed up,
which I thought was really, really impressive and cool.
And then on top of that, just a banging soundtrack, Greg.
They got Gareth Coker on the track.
There's actually three composers on this, but you know I love a good Gareth Coker track.
And I'm telling you, the soundtrack was so good.
And the humor's fun, right?
Like I brought up before, I like the dumb, cheesy kids humor.
And so Mario and the Rabbins, I giggled a number of times just sitting there chuckling to my
self-laphing about how dumb and cute this kind of kids fun humor all right good paris any closing
thoughts from you it makes me want mario galaxy three and odyssey doesn't count odyssey doesn't count
galaxy's better right yeah galaxy's better than i love i like odyssey don't get me wrong but i'm a galaxy
guy i think mario galaxy is one of the best games ever made i really wish they do a three well it's a hard
truth right there it's a fat five Greg
Is it a hard?
I don't know.
I'm not that, like, ready to go.
I'm not going to go to the match.
Or not.
Just whatever I say galaxy is better.
Everybody's,
oh, you're fucking crazy.
You're like,
no, galaxy's better.
I haven't played far too.
You say that that often.
I'm with you on a lot of shows.
I don't think you, like,
that's not one of the Andy, like,
battle cries.
It's more of that hyperlight drifter and dodge rolls.
That's your stuff.
And Bloodborn come into PC, everybody.
Wow.
Jesus, the NVIDIA.
Think about the Nvidia leak, everybody.
That is you.
That is you.
Mike, you had more of your,
things you wanted to get out, but any final thought on it?
I think everybody's really going to like this.
After the first one and seeing what they did with this sequel,
it's going to be another banger.
And I think a lot of people will be gravitating towards it.
We talked on the beginning of the presentation,
10 million players on the original one, right?
It'll be interesting to see if we get up that high again on the sequel.
But for what I played,
I truly believe it will be one of the games that we talk about at the end of the year for sure.
I mean, Janet has a great pick.
You think it's going to be.
one of the games we talk about the end of the year, but both you and Paris,
like, I'm not going to play it.
Oh, no, that's not what I said. No, that is not
what I said. I literally said he hates Switch all hail.
I heard that too.
Wow, dude, he's doing that today on this game.
He said he doesn't play with babies toys,
and it's a baby toy.
No, I'm with Mike on that. I do think
this should be in the conversation.
We'll see with the final game. Again, this is a preview.
That's why I'm hesitant to say all that, but
from what I've played so far,
I feel like it's headed down that path.
of it should probably be in consideration at the end of the year.
But we'll see.
Okay, exciting.
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Paris?
Greg.
Mario Plus Rabbids.
I mean, you said it best.
a baby's toy. I'm excited to hear about this Logitech cloud. Of course, this is the handheld from
Logitech that is a streaming device. Of course, you have it. It's right there. How long have you
had this? Do you like it? What have you been playing on it? Tell me all about it. So I've had this
it's coming in focus, whatever. But I've had it almost a week, I think, or around there somewhere.
I've played, played cyberpunk on it. I've played Death Loop on it. I jump
into the you know I can't the you can't park game played some of that I played like portal
to you know just grabbing stuff off of Steamlink so basically there's three pillars to this
this is Logiteg's along with Tencent their handheld cloud only gaming device it's basically
an Android tablet it's a seven inch screen 1080p 60 Hertz it comes baked in already with the
Xbox app with the Steam link app for local game streaming and in video
a G-Force now.
So you can do cloud streaming on that as well.
I enjoy it.
It's good.
It's a solid device.
It's pretty light because, you know, it has what a snap dragon processor in it.
Pretty long battery life and it way longer than the steam deck.
I want to say, I forget what the exact is, but it's at least double of what the
steam deck is, if not triple.
I think listing it was like around 8 to 10.
Yeah.
They were like promoting or whatever.
Yeah.
That seems about right.
Now, the controls are pretty good.
Like it's funny, I did a quick video I threw up this morning where I was talking about, like, we all have the Steam Deck and we played with the Steam Deck.
To me, that is the best handheld gaming controller I've ever used, right?
I think it's fantastic.
I think the Switch is one of the poorer ones, which is why I don't play on the Switch all the time.
Yeah.
This is kind of in the middle.
And again, I understand that latency and everything is probably a part of this as well when you're cloud streaming.
But it felt a little loose, not like game breaking.
not an enjoyable experience, but I wish it was a little tighter on the controls.
Okay.
But from a game standpoint, jumping onto the Xbox app, jumping into GamePass and being able to
just start playing anything that's on Game Pass, like I said, you just boot up Deathloop,
things like that.
It works just fine.
Hoping on G-Force now was able to fire up Cyberpunk work just fine.
And again, my local streaming on the Steam link, you know, I could play anything on there
without an issue as well.
So from a cloud streaming standpoint.
standpoint and solid. It works. It's doing exactly what it says is supposed to do. The other aspect of the
actual hardware, again, like I said, this isn't basically an Android tablet. It has Google Play Store on it.
64 gigabytes of internal storage. You can use a microSD slot if you choose. So you can play
Android games on this as well. I've not personally done that yet, but you can't like load up an
Xbox game or a PC game or anything like that. That's not what this device. You can.
We were talking a lot about cloud, right?
It also obviously works for remote play for Xbox, yes?
Exactly.
I kind of funnily stuck my foot in my mouth, which I do a lot.
No, you?
I was responding to Phil Spencer and I was saying how I want this device.
I worded it poorly, but I was basically alluding to the fact that you can do remote play from the series X.
I would love to see them also date the Xbox app on PC to basically do the same thing.
So similar to Steamlink, where I can play Xbox.
Xbox PC games off of my PC and stream it on there as well.
But this thing definitely has a lot of potential as far as that goes.
It does not have a cellular connection.
It's Wi-Fi only.
So that's kind of a strike against it where this is not something I can just walk out of
the house with like I would if I was using my Android phone, you know, with like a backbone,
right?
And be able to do that.
Whereas this one, I have to have a Wi-Fi hotspot wherever I go.
But from a hardware standpoint,
for what this device is, it's good.
I like it.
I definitely like it.
I think it's good.
Andy, you got a question.
Do you, do you, would you see yourself using this instead of your cell phone with the backbone?
This is the problem.
I'm glad you said that.
There's two problems with this.
Price is the number one.
It's $300 right now.
If you pre-order it, it's $350 after that.
You can get a steam deck for four.
I'd rather have a steam deck because a steam deck.
because the Steam Deck can do everything that this can, plus play games locally, right?
And the backbone, which we all swear about, or I swear by, I shouldn't talk about.
That's 99, right? Isn't that still going right on it?
Yeah, and then that's the other problem is we all have a mobile device.
If you buy a backbone or the razor controller, whichever the case, right, you can do everything that,
everything on that on your phone that you can do on this.
And again, it takes you back to the fact that it doesn't have a cellular connection.
So at least with my phone, I can go wherever I want on 5G and start playing.
Whereas this one, I have to have a Wi-Fi hotspot to start playing.
Then you throw in the fact that it's $300 or $350 to purchase it.
Who are you targeting with this?
That's, in my opinion, the biggest problem.
Do you know, is there, does the PlayStation Remote Play app work on this or is that not?
I've not tried it yet.
I know people are asking me that today.
I would imagine, again, if it's an Android device.
So if that app is on the Google Play Store, is.
should be able to work.
Okay.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, the, the price is definitely the main thing for me, because I, as somebody who has a mild
interest in this sort of tech, I would want to keep my phone separate from it.
I don't like my phone being occupied as I'm trying to do any of this sort of cloud gaming
or portable or handheld type stuff.
And when this first device was leaked back, you know, several weeks ago or whatever it was,
I thought to myself like, oh, this is probably going to be like $150.
Yeah, right.
Like, I don't really know what's causing the price to be that high.
Is it that they have the play store and they're like, well, you can also do this?
It's like, well, just remove all that other shit.
Just give me the screen and the processor.
And I think that's like definitely a little too wild.
I could see maybe in the future like, hey, you can get, uh, maybe if you buy a year's
worth of GamePass Ultimate, you'll get the device for 150 or something or 200 or something.
Yeah.
But 350, I think, is like kind of egregious for what you're getting in this.
Yeah, this is been the conversation.
For somebody like me who doesn't want my phone to be always in use while I'd rather just
have it, you know, I'm texting on my phone or I have Instagram open on it or something.
That's been the struggle we've talked about since the announcement on Games Daily long before
anybody had it to hold it, right?
is like, okay, who is the person for this?
Like, you know what I mean?
I feel like, again, like, if you are into games the way all of us are,
and you clearly are viewer slash listener,
if you're listening to a gaming podcast,
this is, you know, 40-some minutes into it, you're into it, right?
And it's like, then you all know that you could, like,
take a dual sensor or an Xbox controller
and pair that to your phone, sync it to your tablet,
and have this already.
You already have the means to do this, I'm assuming, right?
And then, yeah, Steam Deck enters the equation.
That's a different thing.
And so, yeah, for me, like, when it all broke today,
I was interested in it because I'm actually downsizing my iPhone.
Like, I've been using the big old pro, the pro max, I guess,
and now I'm just going to go to a pro on this next one because it's so hard to text
with one hand with Benjamin and an arm.
And so that was the thing of, like, the one downside to it is I'm going to miss having
the bigger screen in the backbone.
And so I was like, oh, okay, this will be an interesting conversation to see what it's like.
And it's just like, man, 300 bucks for this?
Like, I don't know.
Like, I'll suck it up with the screen.
Or I'll use my iPhone.
or I'll, you know, even...
Right.
I feel like you could get a burner Android phone with a nicer screen than just be cheaper than this.
Or, you know, I could see the ROM hacking community get really into this and upload a bunch of different OSs and types of a way to play of classic old games and you have better battery life than you would on your Steam deck.
I want to make a correction.
It's...
They're advertising it as a 12 plus hour battery life.
I said 8 to 10.
Okay.
Yeah, I knew it was really good.
So I thought it might have been triple of what the Steam deck can.
is and I was about right. So it's like to your point, Greg, like this is my Galaxy
Ultra. I think this is the 2020 version. But yeah. I mean, you know, I have the Razor
controller on this and it's basically my burner phone that I could use to if I want to stream
something on it and play. I'm not mad that I have this Logitech GCloud device. It's great. If you
have one, you're not going to be mad as you have it. It works. It does exactly what they say
it's supposed to do and it does it very well. It again goes back to that price point.
And is it worth you spending $300 or if you wait, $350 to pick this up?
Whereas I hopped on kind of funny games daily earlier today.
And I was even saying, you know, with blessing, if this was $199, it almost might be a no-brainer to pick up.
And obviously, you need to be into the cloud streaming and all that.
I feel like it's a great second device to have around the house.
Like if all my kids are on the consoles, I don't want to be on the PC.
I could be able to pick this up.
and I could just go play something really quick.
I think it's great for that.
But then on the flip side,
and I know this is not every one scenario,
I have a steam deck.
And it does all the same things.
And I can have local hardware,
gameplay on it,
and it's only 50 bucks more.
We get the steam deck every time in that scenario.
Yeah, I see, I'm on the other side of it, right,
where I remote play all the time
with Jen watching something or, you know,
where's hanging out.
But I don't see the need from my current setup.
what is to entice me.
I guess just the bigger screen, a dedicated screen, but.
It's a beautiful screen.
I mean, when you have it in person, this 1080p screen is great.
Like, that's the thing about it.
It's like, I don't have any complaints about the device for what it is.
It's great.
Yeah, yeah, it's tech.
And when I think about cloud gaming and I think about the future of where all this stuff
is headed, this is another logical step in that to start having these cloud-enabled
devices that can play these games, that has the,
Xbox app has a G-Force app, Stadia, and all that other stuff.
We know there are going to be apps on the TVs and doing all that.
This is where all this is headed, right?
I just think to be a device that is dedicated that I can only be on the internet to basically
play it or obviously my local land to be able to play a game on it.
I don't know.
I think the price point just needs to be cheaper because this is basically competing with a switch
or like I said, the Steam Deck, things like that, that I can 100%
taking the go with you. Exactly.
And I had my,
I was just going to say, I had my first weekend
with my Steam deck. Oh,
no, we do care about this. What'd you think?
Big games on it. Really great time.
Really great time. The whole town's talking about
the day. Here's the thing, though.
Mike, I don't have like the games.
You know what I mean? I got games on mine, bro.
I don't have the games, you know, with the big wink.
Oh, actually, you know what? As you do that, Greg,
let me, one second. Let me, let me prep the
what's on deck theme song.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you. That we've been able to play like once or twice.
Well, real quick, while you prep that, my question for Mike was, Mike, we all know your, when is it, you hear me, Mike?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, don't act like I walked into doctors office.
I mean, kind of now.
Lose the attitude, Chief.
We all know you love to waste your money.
Are you buying this a lot of check?
You know, I already wasted a lot of my money on a steam deck that I never play.
So this will not be the thing I purchased here.
But see, that's, that's again the point of exactly what Mike is saying, even though, you know, he's not playing it.
you already have a Steam Deck.
So there would be no reason for you to then go out and get this Logitech cloud device.
Now, if you don't have any of these devices, maybe you think about this one because it's a little cheaper,
but now you're limited to you have to have an internet connection to be able to play this.
Where's the Steam Deck you don't?
Gotcha.
Do we know what's next?
Here's what's on deck.
That's the, what's on deck.
Oh, you didn't hear the music?
No, he's heard you.
do an a cappella.
Oh, fuck, it was muted.
My bad.
My bad.
Are we going to talk about what's on deck?
It was muted.
Hold on, yeah.
Here's what's on deck, Mike.
Oh, fuck.
Hold on, Jesus.
Here we go.
Do you know what's next?
Here's what's on deck.
Steam deck.
Yeah, that was good, Andy.
So here's what I did.
Andy, that was way better the second time with the music.
Thanks, bro.
The first time I was like, this voice is weird as shit.
Second time I was like, wow, this is inspired.
You have the right context now.
I, uh, I flew to Austin for the weekend.
brought the deck with me, did not bring the switch with me,
which is kind of like a dicey decision only because I'm super addicted to the
platoon right now.
But I brought the deck with me.
And honestly, it became like the backlog machine for me.
On this flight, I played a shitload of Rogue Legacy 2.
I got so far to beating it when it came out.
And this over the weekend, played a lot of Rogue Legacy 2, played a lot of Curse to Golf.
Nice.
I played some.
I also had installed Dark Souls remastered, so I was just kind of playing through that.
And holy cow, this machine is just ridiculous.
The fact that I was running Secuto the other night on it, and the fact that Sekito runs like a dream and like has no issues, this machine is ridiculous.
And I am like, I am a day one buyer for the second iteration.
Like it took me a while to get this one after all the hype and Hullabaloo.
Roger was like, I've got a pre-order.
I hate it.
Roger was like, I've got a pre-order if you want mine.
I was like, yeah, I'll take it.
Actually, yeah, let's do this.
This device is fucking incredible.
You guys were right.
You guys were right.
You weren't steering me wrong.
We usually are.
We usually are.
Mike, how's your steam deck doing?
What are you feeding it?
My steam deck is currently dead three times in a row now because I never play it.
So it just dies.
But when you ask me what I'm playing, Greg, am I allowed to say this?
I'm going to say it anyways.
I'm playing NFL Street 2 and backyard baseball on mine.
So I'm playing the best of the best games of my game.
He's playing the games of the wink.
Also, I've been playing a lot of Destiny 2.
Here's the thing, Paris.
Are you playing Destiny 2 on your Steam deck?
Is there a way to do that?
No, right?
There is, but you don't want to do it.
There's two ways to do it.
One of them will get your ass banned, so you don't want to do that.
The second one is load up windows, which sounds like a pain in the ass.
I'm not doing that.
at Paris, it's Destiny 2 game pretty good, huh?
Like, holy shit.
It says 2014, man.
The last time I played Destiny 2 was when Destiny 2 came out, and I was a huge Destiny 1 fan.
I played a shitload of 2 when it came out.
We did the raid, the first raid with Callis, the big gold guy or whatever.
And then absolutely dropped off of it.
And I feel like a primitive being watching like somebody do a
magic trick in front of me because like this game's been out
forever right and I only have to play it on console
but now playing it on PC
and knowing how they updated
a lot of their engine and art
I am just
jaw on the floor every second
walking into a new area being like
dude the art direction is
fucking immaculate in this game
the artists are popping off the lighting
the volumetric fog
this game is really gorgeous Greg you hop in
with me or what let's go dog come on I mean
I've we've tried before me
Can Barrett tried?
Do you have a good grasp of it?
Because I feel like give you the same thing.
I walk in and it's like there's a million things and I don't know what's going on.
No, dude, there's a grasp.
It's in my hands.
Paris will also help.
But also Chris Anka's been helping us on every one of these streams.
And he's just like, no, Andy.
No, hold the other.
Andy, no, no.
It's the one, it's four tabs down.
It's one.
You figure, I mean, I'd love to, but the superior shooter,
Ghostbuster Spirits Unleashed is less than a much from coming out.
And when that's here, that's going to, I got to grind out the proton pack.
I got to get all the jumpsuits.
I got work to do.
Well, you know what's about to make a revival.
And I know you'll be on board, Greg.
Battleboard.
No, the division.
Oh.
Because they're already committed to a season five for the division.
Two, Heartland's coming.
They're doing resurgent on mobile.
The mobile one, yeah.
Yeah.
Am I?
Sports backbone on me.
Am I able to get my PlayStation character on PC?
Is that a thing?
On Destiny?
No, no.
on on division.
No,
if,
and that's,
yeah,
that's,
that's the bummer.
Yeah.
That hurt.
Because my main is,
is on PC.
So it's like,
I started up a character on,
on Xbox and was like,
shit,
I don't do this all again.
So I just stay on PC.
Oh,
that hurts.
Yeah,
because like,
because I played the division
before I ever did keyboard mouse.
And now I feel like,
there's no way I could go back to controller.
Like,
that's the way to play at keyboard.
Oh, man.
That's the beauty of destiny
that they got full cross
play across the awkward literally across the board it was a matter where you're on
yeah but like we were on stream and I was like oh you know what I don't have any
shaders because this is a new character I made when I just wanted to try out the
newest expansion back like couple months ago maybe a year ago and I was like Joe
how do I migrate my account and it was legitimately like just hit login hit the
migrate button and then I locked back in and all my shit was there was so cool
pretty good game not enough people talking about it this destiny two game
I'm glad to be the evangelist
forward, Greg. If you like crossplay
like that, like, don't forget, Ghostbust Your Spirits
Unleashed Add with it. So you could play on your PC
and then I can play on my PlayStation and we can all be happy.
Mike, get on your Xbox. You can come over here and play with us,
you know? Greg, I'm ready to rock.
Come on, homie.
I'm ready to rock. He's such a liar.
You know, Mike's down to climb.
You have some fun up there, bust and ghosts with me?
Who was there? Who was there when Greg
asked to play fucking puzzle quest
three? I was there, okay?
Who was there when Greg was like, like, we got to do
the division raid with Fran and a bunch of
your brony. I was there, okay? I'm fucking there, Andy. You're right. You're right. You're
never there, Andy. How dare I doubt you? If you ever wanted me to play a game with you, I'd be
there for you, but I ask one thing and play Spirits Unleashed. You want to be a weirdo about it, you know?
Just ask you to play Destiny.
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Blessing at E.O. Yeh.
June.
That's absolutely right.
Where can people find Paris?
I'm not done.
I'm not done yet.
I'm not there yet.
I know what's there.
What the fuck?
What's on deck?
I deck doesn't turn on.
So is that the what's on deck song is the
intro to Paris to tell you where to find
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