Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - We Played Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4! - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

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What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Gamescast for Friday, May 16th, 2025. Of course, I am your host, Tim Geddes. I am joined today by you know him from GameRanks. And before you buy and the Friends Per Second podcast and just being one of my favorite people on the internet. It's Jake Baldino. Hello, boys. What's up?

Thanks for having me. Very excited to have you here, dude. And I'm also very excited to have for the very first time in the studio. Stu Kimball, who is the editor of Skillup and the editor of The Friends Per Seconds podcast. Thank you so much. Happy to be here. Very happy to be here with you. I met you last week.

I've met Jake a million times. I know Jake very, very well. But I met you for the first time in Los Angeles. And immediately I'm like, I fucking love this guy. This is my guy. This is absolutely my guy. I feel the exact same way. Born and raised Bay Area kid.

Love that. You love Tony Hawk. I'm like, what more could you do to win me over? And then yesterday I'm at the ribbon-cutting ceremony of the Nintendo store. And who do I see, Stu? It's literally been the week of Tim. That's exactly it. I love it.

I'm so excited. I'm very excited to have this group of gentlemen here to talk about one of my favorite things in life, Tony Hawks Pro Skater. The three of us, as well as a handful of other people, got to go down to Los Angeles and play Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 remake by Iron Galaxy. We got to play for a couple hours. And then in addition to that, we just had a kind of wild week. They gave us tickets to THPS Fest, which was essentially an insane concert of a bunch of the bands and artists featured in the Tony Hawk games. So we're going to be talking about all of that stuff because this is the kind of funny games cast where each and every weekday we get together to talk about video games, all the things that we love about them. If you like that, you should get the kind of funny membership.

It gets you the shows ad free. You can get the daily exclusive Greg way, normally done by Greg, but today done by Andy because Greg is out. What's Andy going to talk about? I'm not sure, but I'm sure it's going to be hilarious because he's a very funny guy. Little housekeeping for you. We're an 11-person business all about live talk shows. You already got an episode of Games Daily. Now you're getting the Games cast.

After this, you are getting our Star Wars and or finale review spoiler cast. I cannot wait for you to see that. I don't want it to be over, Stu. The show's too good. I haven't started yet, and I'm like scared because I don't want it to be over. Yeah, it's fantastic stuff. But get our details later on that. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs,

Omega Buster, and Delaney Twining. Today, we're brought to you by Shady Ray's R-Frams and Rocket Money, but we'll tell you all about that later. We've got to get into the topic of the show. Tots, dots, dots, dots, dots, dots. Before we get into Tony Hawk, though, there's something else I want to bring up. This is not sponsored.

We have in the past been sponsored by X-Real AR glasses. But me and Jake both had this moment last week when we were in L.A., where we both realized we had the same epiphany. Is that correct? Oh, straight up, straight up. Like, it changed our lives. I'm using the competitor one, the Vitcher glasses. Essentially, either way, they are glasses. They look like, I guess you call them like ray bands, like wayfarers, right? Pretty standard sunglass model, but it has a screen in it. And that screen technically acts as a display. So an external display to anything you plug it into, USBC into your phone, your laptop, your switch, or most importantly, a Roger ally or a Steam

deck, which really changes the game, man, right? Like, I feel like now all of a sudden I can, like on a train, on a plane, anywhere, I can get gaming really good. Because, I mean, like, handheld portable gaming, we all do it. It's great. But after a while, you get fatigued. And I know this sounds like an ad, but I swear to God, it's not. It's real.

It's literally just old man complaining. You get fatigued. And now, like on an airplane, like you can have a coach seat, like the shittiest worst seat next to a baby in the back of the plane right by the bathroom. But if you have these things on your face, you can have it plugged into your steam deck and you just look straight ahead and you have a giant TV screen. So I've been able to just like completely go balls deep on flights into games. And that's probably not the right phrase. Sorry. Hey, it's right.

Oh, man. No, real talk. This is one of those things where for years we've had Xreal. I've used many of the different iterations as they've kind of advanced. And, you know, infamously, the Kevin stories of him being addicted to these things. But that made sense because Kevin loves the pushing tech further than it's supposed to be going. I like tech where it is where it's supposed to be at. You know what I mean?

Yes. So for me, it's like I wanted to wait until it had less of a gimmick need and more of an actual use case need for me personally. And I've been going on a lot of trips recently, whether it was to New York for the Switch 2 events or or WrestleMania or down to LA for this Tony Hawk thing. And a lot of those times I was trying to play games for reviews. I was trying to play Expedition 33. I forget what the other ones were, but I was like, I'm on the steam deck. I want to give these things a shot because why not?

I'm going to be on like eight hour flight or whatever it was to New York on the way back. So let's see what this is all about. And I tried it out. And I was immediately blown away where I'm like, all the things that I thought were a problem with these before are gone. I thought, oh, I'm going to have to connect it to like a power brick or like something. to then connect. There's just going to be too many cables and dongles and stuff. I also thought that it was going to just not look that good or whatever. And here I am now.

Blown, I am a convert full on for these things. Like, I just want to show you guys how easy this is. It is one USBC cable, not even proprietary. It's just a USBC cable that goes onto these glasses and it plugs in to whatever device you want. It could be your phone. It could be your Steam Deck, like anything that has USBC, and you plug it in, and it powers from the device, so you don't even need to power the glasses themselves. And it gives you an insanely large screen, like from 117 inches up to like, I forgot what it was,

like 200 inches. And it's OLED. Like there's an OLED screen in there. And like, do these look like perfectly rayban glasses? No, but they're pretty damn close. He's so cool. To the point to the point that for me, I like that they don't clearly look just like real glasses.

Because when I'm sitting on the plane, I don't want to be like a weirdo that's sitting there like, you know like first off i don't want the big ass headset yeah right because then you're too weird but this at least there's a cable coming down they know something's going on also i can see you right now while there's a big screen in front of me here's the thing i'm saying this sounds like an ad this is a legitimate ad from tim gettys of saying these these are something that forever more now the tech is there they're going to be my backpack always i am blown away by how amazing they are um and they they're just it's here guys like the time is now these things are awesome we've arrived it's at a good point they figured it out like i feel like

now the fun stuff happens where it's like over time the form factor will only get better the price will start to go down because i think the price is still a little high but it is i just think like if you're someone that sits around a lot or you travel a lot or or anything it's good because it's like you've fitted in a sunglass case throw it in your bag and then you're good i've used them i did sponsors for them and i was like this is very cool but it was until exactly like what tim said where i was like, oh man, this might work for this. And you try it and it clicks. It's good.

Yeah. And as someone who also uses like or used the Applevision Pro like a goofus, this is just so much better. So much better than having a giant $3,000 computer strapped to your face made out of glass. You can just wear cool sunglasses that make you look cool. Yeah. And how small they are.

Yeah, that's like looking at them in person, it's baffling how sleek. Yeah, man. I am so. damn impressed with these things. And yeah, the reason I'm bringing up now is because me and Jake were having breakfast and we're just talking about it. And we're talking about traveling a lot. And I was like, dude, I have a device that's going to change your life. And he was just like, are they like, AR glasses? I'm like, what the hell? Are we the same person? Like, I was going to pitch you on it. So anyways, I highly recommend them. I think they're awesome. Check them out. But

that's not what we're talking about today. We're talking about Tony Hawk's pro skater, three plus four. We all got to play so much of it. I want top level thoughts. Actually, first off, what's history with the Tony Hawk franchise, too? I started with Tony Hawk's Underground 2, actually, so probably the zaniest entry in the franchise. It claps for that, thank you. And then when actually

went back and have played all of them and up to 1 and 2 remake and now 3 and 4 remake, and I love them. Some of my favorite game series of all time. Yeah. Jake? I started with Tony Hawk's Pro Skater

1. I believe I first touched it. I think I first touched the Nintendo 64 version. We're the same person, Jake. It keeps getting weirder and weirder man. Also, by the way, it's the person that officiated your wedding. Can I talk about that?

Yeah, Josh. Yeah. Josh McCuga officiated his wedding. This makes no sense the most small world. How did this happen? Shit I've ever experienced. What? It's insane. It's like, it's also the fact that you're wearing a Metal Gear shirt. And for once, I'm not. Yeah. It's like crazy. We're just like time warping. This is weird.

It's so funny. So, okay, you started with Tony Hawk one on the N64, that beautiful blue cartridge. Yeah. Yeah. And I, uh, then I loved it. So I got it. I was a PlayStation gamer, PlayStation kid. So I got Tony Hawk one.

And from there, I've played every single one. They are all my children. The ones that people talk shit about, but it's not deserved like, uh, like, uh, project eight. Proving ground or the like, proven ground. The one where everybody finally lost interest. Everybody fell off. But proving ground, I was there for it, man.

Uh, the Game Boy ones, which were like whatever, but you play them. The GBA, the isometric stuff. Those were great. It was pretty, you know, yeah, to be fair, it was kind of cool. But yeah, I've been there from the beginning and I've really enjoyed all of them because it's like the one game I'm capable at. I wouldn't say I'm like pro level at, but it's the one game where like I feel like I can sit

down and like maybe beat my friends, you know? And that that's been something. But also just in terms of like right time, right place, right? You've heard it all before. but like the culture, as a cultural movement for skateboarding, but also getting into different types of music, influencing,

introducing me to a lot of hip hop that I otherwise wouldn't have been exposed to. It's just, it's such an important franchise to me for so many reasons, like right up there with Metal Gear and Max Payne, but this is just a random sports game dropped in there. Yeah. I mean,

I'm right there with you. I need to go too long that people listening know my history with this, but I also started with Tony Hawk One on the N64. became absolutely addicted after that and would 100% each and every entry after I'm right there with Jake where I played far too long past the quality of the original Never Stop titles kind of dip in

but still find a lot of love even if Project 8 was like 30 frames per second and not great like all that stuff I pushed through I still found the fun five was the only one that broke me Tony Hawk's Pro Skate or five was like absolutely even Tony Hawk remastered or whatever it was HD

that they put out in the 360s the shitty downloadable one that was like mostly two. My brain. Yeah, it wasn't great. It really wasn't great, but it wasn't the worst thing ever. And then five really was the worst thing of all time. So when one and two came out, it kind of blew my mind. Like I didn't think it was possible for Tony Hawk games to still be good and like for a new one to come out and or even a remake and to feel correct.

And not only did it, it added all of the move set that you need from three and four. back into the one in two levels, which I just think was like, that's my dream Tony Hawk, right? And so to continue that with three and four, I've been incredibly excited to play through this stuff. So now I want to get into initial impressions of what we got to play. Jake, let's start with you. Yeah. Yeah, I think top level, uh, really, really enjoyed it. It plays exactly like I expected it to. Uh, then the levels are recreated well like in one and two, but actually feel like a little bit more, uh, like a lot more particle effects, a lot more like just crazy shit going on. So they like, it feels like more effort even put into recreating the levels.

The new level we got to experience. The water park is really cool. All that stuff you expect is here. The only thing is I still kind of have questions about the career mode. The lack of career mode is something that I think is a point of contention. You look at comments, right? Everybody's talking about it. And I do find myself going back and forth.

Having played original for so much, there are a lot of duds within. in that career mode. And what they've done here is kind of tried to just match four to feel like three as a cohesive package. I get it from a philosophy standpoint sometimes. Some people think it's them cutting corners. I don't know if it is, but I do think I miss some of the objectives from career mode, more than the career mode structure itself.

Some of the objectives and like the rapid pace weird stuff, I am gonna miss. There is some of that, like, flavor wise, right? Like some of the objectives or the goals are things from like, you know, San Francisco. Like you're still knocking the boulder over and hitting the shark. But all of that is now condensed into a two-minute mode. And I'm still kind of 50-50 on whether or not I like that specifically because what is this called? This is called. These are called Tony Hawk 3 and 4 remastered technically is what they call them? It's just 3 plus 4.

3 plus 4. Yeah. So I still look at it as like a representation or a preservation. or of the originals. And I do feel like for the sake of it being complete, I think I would have ultimately liked more career stuff. I don't know if I'm the only one. But yeah. Stu, what are your top level thoughts on it all? Just to go into that, I, um, playing it,

I didn't, I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything. I do personally love the, the two minute timer, uh, and how the goals are more streamlined to fit that two minute timer. And you can now, uh, set the timer up to six. minutes, which I think is a good compromise for people to be able to take, you know, the levels at their own pace, see what's happening, complete the goals as they will, but not have the career modus specifically, which I understand is a point of contention again. Like, NPC dialogue

is so iconic, like all of that stuff. But I didn't find myself missing it that much. And I, yeah, that was my, like, impression of the changes to Tony Hawk's pro. skater for but I really do want to talk about this new level to water park water park because they like I was I described it as being like ripped out of the source code of one of those original games as some secret level that they never used um and it just feels so right like as a as a place you're you know all those old levels are like places you're not really allowed to skate in real life and that's the fun of it kind of the absurdity of it and water park taps into that so well. And I had a blast just like cannons firing, pipes bursting, like doing combos and tricks in the pools and all of that stuff.

I absolutely loved it. Yeah. That's what I took away was I'm excited for their new levels. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, going into this, I almost didn't even need to get my hands on the sticks for this game because just looking at it, you can tell, oh, it's one and two, but three and four. And that's really all that I needed. I remember leading into Tony Hawk five, every time I'd see gameplay, I'm like, I need. I'm like, I need. need to get my hands on the controller. Like, that would be the moment that I can tell, is this good or not?

That's literally all I need to know. So, and it wasn't. But here, it's like getting our hands on the game. And unfortunately, for me, we had to play on Xbox controllers.

Oh, man. I know you guys were, which is like, I mean, the PlayStation controller and Tony Hawk is like the GameCube controller and Smash Brothers.

It's like, it's just the D-Pad and the way it all feels. It's like, it is perfect. And that, again, come from someone

that played on N-64 back of the day, like the PlayStation controller was like a godsend. But not that bad, honestly. The playing on the Xbox controller, like it totally, totally worked. And everything I thought going in was correct. This game, in my opinion, is perfect from a gameplay level. This feels exactly like I would want it to feel.

And Jake was saying this, but like, it's surprisingly gorgeous. Like, one and two ran incredibly well. And they kept, once the next gen came out and then even PS5 Pro and all that stuff. once the enhances started coming out, they just kept going back and being like, and now there's 120 frames per second, and now there's HDR, and now there's all the stuff.

Seeing what they have here kind of from the jump is just so impressive. There's so many particles and things going around, like in the college level, the parade floats going by, and there's just confetti everywhere. In the foundry, there's just fire and just like all of these effects,

smoke and stuff, and it just looks and feels awesome, and it doesn't hinder the performance of the game at all. No, not at all. So yeah, I was very, very impressed with all that stuff. And the thing for me about the career mode is I love all of these games. I love all of the bullshit. I love the good and the bad.

And in Tony Hawk 4, it's like real talk at certain points in my life, I would have said that was my favorite of the Tony Hawk games. Then as I got older and played them more and more, I realized like, oh, it's definitely not. There's things. I think it's my favorite move set of the games. And that's why I'm happy that they're continuing to use that from one and two onwards here. but I recently played through the entire career again and four and I personally I'm not going to miss it at all

whatsoever I've always been a fan of the two minute timer stuff and the fact that they can change it up to 60 and all that it's like that seems like a concession I don't think it's really going to make the people that are upset and happy but I was worried they were going to get rid of the character of these goals and the little cut scenes and the the weird dialogue and stuff to actually entertaining stuff and they didn't it's at least so far

A lot of it's there, maybe not every single thing. Right. But I feel very served in terms of having these levels, have interesting things for me to do and not just have more stuff just to have more stuff. And I do think in Tony Hawk 4, some of the things were just, hey, this is content for content's sake. Having said that, I do think it's a valid criticism. And I am a little concerned. There are a bunch of goals that we didn't get to play through.

I don't think we did any of the combo stuff. I don't know if that's in the game. Oh yeah, I hope it is. And I hope it is. And I think that there's a lot of different goals that can't work within a two-minute structure. So we're just not going to have based on like where they're trying to take you around all the level.

They could change it up. We saw a couple examples of that already in the college level with how the professor's car skitching goal works. But I have full faith in it. I believe in it. And on top of that, they had to be cagey about stuff. And we interviewed the developers in different ways and talked to them. and I've read like every single interview I've seen

from any of the people that we were there with. And I'm getting the vibes that there's goals that are like Tony Hawk 4, one of my favorite things was it had pro goals, like pro objectives tied to each of the characters. And that's kind of like, in my opinion, what we're thinking about when we're like, oh man, we're going to miss out on these like bigger events type things. And I'm getting the vibe that while we may not get pro individual goals back,

I think that there was, there's going to be a second series. of goals after like a new game plus type thing. Oh, interesting. I'm just saying that. I don't know that that's going to be true. I don't need it one way or another, but I think it's going to be there.

And I know I'm rambling, but real quick, I want to say this because I think that I haven't seen anybody talk about this enough. One and two, one of my favorite games of all time, and I platinum it recently. That was a grind that took me years, and the majority of it was fun.

And then it got really, really, really not fun because some of the final trophies were just, get to that level 100, which is just grinding, bullshit. It felt very battle passy in a way that was not fun. All that stuff's gone. All the battle pass stuff is gone. You're not leveling up anymore.

Instead, it's all challenge-based. The challenges from the limited that we could see, I'm like, this seems like the perfect experience for this game. Yes. I agree. They've stripped back to that battle passy, because I was just playing one and two yesterday. And I was like, the pro challenges in that one are,

I think linked to that kind of battle pass too. And if they get rid of that and just bring in them as like an actual challenge mode, perfect. I think that's going to be the best balance of the two games. Exactly. Yeah, I think there's definitely

some potential there. I feel like I've seen a lot of like running theories on like the subreddit and stuff that there's going to be more stuff that they haven't shown. But what we did see, I did really enjoy in terms of I was happy to see

it's like a silly thing, but I was happy to see the maps and see money floating in the air. Yes. And collecting most currency. I was like, okay, cool. Because I like the currency system from four and we didn't get to see too much of like what that shop entails and like what you're

going to be purchasing but the fact that there is that extra stuff to collect and like you know that there's persistent over the two minute modes like you know you miss one try the mode again get it uh there's a lot of that there's also the um collectible skate decks that you can find super cool yeah pinpointed that sound to me first but the art on the decks is really cool right yeah the art on the each level has a hidden deck in it somewhere and the deck is is the original kind of like level select art from the original three or the original four. So on four, it kind of looks like a film strip for San Francisco or Alcatraz or whatever on the deck.

And I'm like, that's just, that's awesome, right? Yeah. And I think that speaks to the level of detail that Iron Galaxy is going for and like the level of respect that they have. Because like we all interviewed again,

the games director and just talking to him was just like, you know, the maps themselves are taken, even like collisions are taken. directly from the original games and put back in. They've added Tony Hawk's Froggy Grind, which wasn't in the one and two remake, like little things that they are trying to hone in on

that keeps this fresh and also like the ultimate experience. Yeah, and you know, something that I really loved about one and two remake was how much they clearly cared about the original games but didn't just want to be like, hey, cool, we're just remaking it and here's the skaters, the ones we can get back and whatever. The skaters from the original games were older now.

Like they're like time appropriate of like the ages they are. But then there's also this entire new generation of the later, the skaters of today. Right. And I feel like that's so important for the culture of this game and skateboarding that we all care about so much. And even the music choices and all that stuff, it reflects like the new and the old. And the levels I feel like did that as well, like the mall being this like abandoned mall, which it wasn't abandoned in the first game. I thought that little take was so interesting. and I feel like three and four are really doubling down on that,

where showing a lot of love to what came before, but the skater roster in this game is kind of wild. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, can we talk about how it looks like a fighter select screen? It does. There are so many skaters that you see all these tiles of every character portrait. And I was like, wow, holy shit.

I've never felt that in a Tony Hawk game. It's cool. They really understand that like new and old. And the music choices really are the biggest thing. and I think they did that so well in one and two. The music was so perfectly curated, adding in new stuff. And it feels like with three and four, that's the approach again. But this time they're doubling down on that with the skaters themselves and the skate culture,

which is really cool to see. I want to talk about the music just for a second because the second night, we got to see a bunch of the bands rappers and bands play. And I think it was really special for me because I found out about Lupe Fiasco from Tony Hawk's downhill jam. Oh, my God. That's amazing. Kick push was in that.

Hilarious. Originally. And I was like, this is such a full circle moment. And then I was standing with Jake and Jake had not heard Danny Brown before. And it was freeing out and I'm like, oh my God,

this is so cool. And I was like, this is awesome. This is what these games sort of are for in a lot of ways. Is such an introduction to that culture like we've been talking about. And such a, just such a lovely celebration of that. And I feel like the music selection and the skate selection,

like you said, is such a celebration. It really felt like a celebration. Yeah. And we didn't get to experience the entire soundtrack in our game. There was a lot of songs. The day that we played the game, there was a lot of embargoes of, like, different information was dropped throughout the day.

It was a little bizarre from being honest. But it was like wave three of the soundtrack was announced. And then it was all right, cool. Bamar Jarrah is in the game that was announced and a couple different things, one after another. But now that we know the entire soundtrack, it's officially posted at the very least, and from playing the game, there's a streamer mode, which they wanted to have us in for recording. that Jake was in and then I wasn't in that. I was just like recording it just normally.

Right. And so I just got to hear all the songs. Jake, you want to talk about the streamer mode for a second? So miserable. Yeah. Like I understand why it exists. But essentially it was like, you know, for streamer mode, for copyright reasons, like it will just play generic music that like kind of sounds like, here's kind of a rap song.

Here's kind of like a punk, like a pop punk song. Here's kind of a ska song. So I was just like skating to like the most generic sky I've ever heard. And I'm like, oh, man, this sucks. And then I was like, oh, oh, I could turn it. this off. So halfway through, I turned it off and I was able to experience the soundtrack. But I went over to Tim and I was like, do you have the stream remote on? This is, this is killing me. And he's like, no, I just have it off. I was like, oh, okay. So I switched mine off. Way better. And yeah,

the soundtrack, it's awesome. It's good old Tony Hawk classic stuff where I do think that compared to one and two, there's more of a shift towards newer songs than that because, and even just not necessarily new as in coming out in 2025, but new and as in not in Tony Hawk previously, many of the songs from one and two were directly in one and two remake. Right, right. For this, I would say that half of the songs that are returning or artist returning from the original three and four, the artists are there, but it's a different song. Which I love.

It's kind of, yeah, it's a fresh new take on it, which is interesting. And like, there's certain groups that like, man, I don't even, I'm blanking on their name right now, but they had that song, oh, toy doll, I think is the name of the band. And they have that song, Dig That Groove, baby in Tony Hawk 4 original. And now they have this, like, a new song, but it's identifiably them just from the voice and sound and style. And I'm like, I love that, like, I'm getting this feeling of playing Tony Hawk 4 for the first time again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is so cool.

And re, re-discovering it in that way. And what I love about those games is they usually take kind of deep cuts from those tracks, maybe because they're cheaper, maybe easy. to license, I don't know, but then I really become fans of like those albums, you know, like you were like, oh, this is track number seven on this, you know, it's not the A side or whatever of whatever album you're listening

to, and I think the new soundtrack does a really good job of that as well. Yeah. Those kind of deeper cuts. Yeah. I think it was the right move because Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 and 2, like the soundtrack for that is like a temple. I don't know. There's something about that. It's like, you can only fuck with it so much.

Yeah. That with three and four, and then and so on and so on. I think there's a little more wiggle room. But I think like what you said, they're absolutely doing it right with like, oh, well, like, how about you know this artist and here, try a different song? The only question is if they ever do thug,

are they going to keep kiss? They got it. They need the level, right? Yeah, exactly. Very important. It's integral to the ending of that game. It is, yeah. Oh, man, I love it.

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We got to play a handful of levels from both three and four. We got Foundry, Canada, Rio, Los Angeles, and Suburbia from three. Is that off the dome? Yes. Impressive. And I don't see if I can keep it up for four. We had college, San Francisco.

Come on now. Now that he's on the spot. We did play Alcatraz. We did play Alcatraz. It's the best level ever. That's it. No, no, the new one. Oh, and then Water Park.

Waterpark, yeah. Which I guess they are putting into into the floor. That was it though, right? Yeah. From before? Yeah, yeah. Interesting. we also did see

just going around the menus and stuff Jake and I noticed like you can see the zoo and you can see London and you can see Tokyo so like most levels are in some way confirmed to be back it seems like the only ones that we're probably

not going to get our Chicago which was in four but technically that was a level from Matt Hoffman's ProbeX 2 so we're not getting that we're not getting carnival was for, correct? Oh, was it?

Was that the... Yeah. Yeah, I believe that was... No, it was four. Okay. Yeah, we have not seen carnival yet. Yeah. It was only on certain platforms, I think.

Something like that. But what, what did you think about, Jake, I know you're a big suburbia guy. What was it like playing suburbia in full HD? It was crazy. It was weird. It's a level that actually, like, it felt very weird to see that level, like,

fleshed out that and Canada just because like they were so vague in the old one because because of visuals and everything like that to see it fully fleshed out was pretty wild and I actually with suburbia I had a harder time like connecting some of my lines I guess because I'm like so rusty but you know having the thin man there and like doing all that stuff and smashing the pumpkins it totally totally hit like exactly like how I was hoping the thin man like when you help him he gets like a cut scene and it's like yeah like he like he like explodes or whatever. It was cool. Yeah, the charm

still being there is like to me really what matters. And that's why it's like, all right, cool. Like I'm, they easily could have took that stuff out. Because like, I don't think we got any of that in one and two, but that's because one and two didn't have those things. Like we had a couple little little moments of like if you hit this thing, it'll like create

a new like line or whatever. But there's a lot more of that in four specifically. Yeah, four was huge on that. Yeah. What were some of your highlights, do? Um, Alcatraz is one of my favorite levels in the entire series. Al-timer. Yeah. And, like, uh, you can still sketch the, the tour guide.

And, you know, they give the whole like spiel and everything. Uh, the prisoner, like, let out the prisoner is there, uh, all the secret entrances that, like, link you to the, and combining your lines that way. Foghorn. And it just like, it really, I mean, as Bay Area people, four is such a, like, celebration of Bay Area of skateboarding because, like, colleges in Berkeley. It's bizarre. College is Berkeley. There's a San Francisco level again, which is like we had San Francisco before and one. It's a completely different level. There's Alcatraz. And then the shipyard is like debatably Hunter's Point. Could be. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of weird, man. Oh, it's great. And I just loved that. And to see Alcatraz and like the sun is setting and like, you know, the beautiful, the bridges and the city. And I was like, this is awesome.

The biased for me, but just awesome. It was so good. Very, very cool stuff. Yeah. You mentioned the kind of of all the little entrances and hidden things on Alcatraz, which some Tony Hawk levels do it, but I do feel like Alcatraz is the shining star example of it. We have a new competitor in Waterpark. Yes, we do. Oh, yeah, yeah. It is so Alcatraz-coded,

and, like, that is the greatest compliment I can give it. Absolutely. But it also has a bit more of a kind of condensed, like, obstacle park of, like, more, like, traditional, I'd say, it kind of feels like a perfect blend of a Tony Hawk three level and a Tony Hawk four level. Yes. I completely agree. Yeah.

It's a, I, the, finding those secret entrances that lead to the top of the water slides and then like going down the water slide to, to, to, you know, the pipes and the pools and all of that stuff. It does feel like,

I'm trying to think of a level. It kind of feels like like Tokyo or the Japan level in three with all the flashy, like lines and links and stuff. And then Alcatrazon four. That's a perfect combination. Yeah. Yeah. It's got,

It's got that like whimsy to it that I really appreciate where it's like you're going down a million slides and you're like, whoa. But then also there's a couple of spots where you can hit and a water spout will like blast you up into the air. So it kind of has that like goofy fun factor to it. And I also like that it still carries over a little bit of like the transformative stuff. If you complete certain objectives like very much like the downhill level from Tony Hawk one where you got to grind all the little nozzle hoses or whatever.

Yeah. You do that here around the park. then it lowers the water in this like pool and then you have access to more ramps. So stuff like that, I just, I always appreciate from this game. And the fact that they took that, the fact that it has like the Alcatraz entrances, that style, I just made me feel really good. I was like, I feel very confident now about the new levels because when this was announced, they were like, oh, and introducing, we're putting new levels in it.

And it's like exciting, but it's also like, well, who are you? you know yeah exactly yeah that's so after playing this i really i so i played water park and then i got to interview the developers and i like walked in and i was like dude you guys were fucking cooking with this like holy shit um yeah i i i love it yeah and the water park was definitely i'm right there with you like i i was surprised at how great of a level it was and it does get me excited we know we're getting three new levels um they haven't officially talked about the ones besides waterpark but there was a leaked image of a pinball machine where you're like skating in pin I'm like how have we not done that before that sounds perfect like a giant pinball

machine just grinding around everything like that's gonna be awesome and that's what I tried to get some hints too I tried to get like I was like hey can you just like tell me like he tell me a little bit like about like can you give me a hint or some other levels didn't get anything but what what what what they did say was that the philosophy was kind of like looking at level looking at secret levels and just levels from the past and like, what are they, right? A lot of the times they're places you can't go or there are places that are shut down. So they're kind of carrying that same philosophy over, which is good.

They're not just like, let's do this because it's cool. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I love how kind of absurd they are, like a pinball machine. Like it's kind of crazy, but you're like, of course, that works so perfectly within everything. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't get to play as the Doom characters, but I do like that to some extent we are getting secret skaters back.

Like that was something, or like secret skaters that aren't just like Tony Hawk originals back. Right. Because one and two, I'd say one of the bigger letdowns is that we got Officer Dick and we got the skeleton, but like we didn't get any of the, we didn't get Spider-Man. We didn't get like a lot of the classics from those games. But beyond that, I thought that it was going to be a slam dunk of, sure, we might not get what we got before because of licensing.

I thought we were going to get Crash Bandicoat it being made by Activision, like all that. We didn't get any of that stuff. So now Microsoft's involved, getting Doom Slayer, I think, is good. And we know that Bam and Andy Anderson are also secret skaters. Yeah. I wonder if we'll get more. I know. Where's Django at?

You know what I mean? Where is Django? Come on. What a time, though, that they were, they were just like, hey, Django Fets in the game. Now I could never even imagine that. Oh, no. I've never thought about Crash Bandico being in, but that would have made total sense. It made too much sense.

At the time, specifically. Yeah. Because they're the new one coming out. Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah. Dude, and then Thug, we had Iron Man. Iron Man? Yep.

Which is crazy to think about. And like pre-MCU, Iron Man. Yeah, it's such a weird thing. But yeah, really was, and those two, three and four were the Star Wars ones because it was Darth Mall, right? Yeah. And Wolverine, too, though. Like, it wasn't just Star Wars or Marvel.

We got both. So awesome. Yeah. I hope. God, what a time, man. You guys are good compromise. You guy, I think, I think, is a good fit. You know, that totally works.

I think it's, and also, we're getting to do music. and Doom tricks and a Doom deck Like that stuff's cool I was gonna say yeah Isn't Doom guy Yeah it is returning from From the PC version of Tony Hawk 3 Yeah so I did not know that

That's awesome I didn't know that either yeah Because he's playable in Thug Pro So I was like oh they must have either added him in Or modded or whatever But yeah he was in the PC version That's cool So then moving on from our gameplay experience

We went to THPS Fest Jake what was that like for you That was cool I you know there was a stream there was a live stream so people got to see it essentially it was a pretty small intimate concert with like fans some like journalists and influencers and then just like legends walking around just like skaters walk around like a lot of people from Tony Hawk's Pro Skater like the various games like Bones Brigade guys like really cool shit and then a good concert to boot also it was catered by Taco Bell which that's just cool. Like it was literally like you walk past like buffet stations with the trays open and it was just stacks and stacks and stacks of soft tacos and and you know Suprems and stuff like that. It was it was something else. It was. It was quite the event. Yes, it was. This is definitely old school game marketing events. Yes. Taken to the end degree. But it also came from a place

of love of like if we're going to celebrate a Tony Hawk game like let's celebrate it culturally. And in a weird way, Taco Bell's part of the culture. Right. Yes. So like the music and all that stuff. Like it was fun and it was at the L. Ray Theater, which is a location from the Los Angeles level of Tony Hawk 3, which I'm like, that's kind of, we had to skate by that earlier in the day. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Also, there's like a good, there was a good thing the whole time like, of like everybody who was on stage presenting or performing, like everybody kind of had this thankfulness to be there and almost like a thankfulness directly to Tony Hawk. Every single person was like, thank you Tony Hawk for putting me in the game. because that's crazy. Danny Brown was like, thank you Tony Hawk for inspiring me to be a musician. I was like, that's awesome. He was like, yeah, I listened to Aesop rock on on Tony Oaks Procedator 4. And that, you know, this weird rap that I do is directly from that. And so I thought that was such a cool connection. Yeah, and you alluded to this earlier, Stu, but like, I also am not a, I don't know Danny Brown that well.

I know him from features on certain songs. I've always enjoyed it. But I've never heard enough to be like, I'm going to do a deep dive on guy. And hearing him here in the context of he's a Tony Hawk guy, guess what I've been listening to all week, right? It's just like, that's, it's very cool. And that is the power of putting these things all together where it just like, it introduces you to like entirely new things. And I can't believe that's still happening 25 years later. I'm still getting new music from Tony Hawk. Honestly, it was as someone who's listened to Danny Brown for a long time now, it was really awesome to stand next to Jake. And with each song that came on, Jake was like, what? Yeah. This is awesome. And I was like, yeah, yes, this is what it's all about.

Like, it felt really nice. It was really cool. Yeah, I mean, we got to see Steve Caballero's band. Yeah. We got to see Steve Caballero perform on stage wearing his outfit from Tony Hawk for. Yes. Like, come on. Yeah.

It was so, so cool. About the Freddie Kruger drip. And yeah, Jake, you were saying it, but like, everyone was just so excited to be part of this. And like, it really did feel like, hey, like, there's a history here, right? So I loved that. And yeah, being around all the skaters was cool. We got to see Bamargera. We got to meet him, which was wild.

Yeah. You know, that's obviously some like lifetime, legendary childhood. Like, I can't believe I'm meeting. So bizarre. So weird. I, the way it worked is like, like, Tim clocked him and he's like, he's there. He's just there. Like, we should just go talk to him.

He's just standing there. And I was like, okay. And I literally was like, okay, Tim, Mr. Kind of Funny talking to celebrities. I was like, you can take the lead. I'm nervous. And then Tim was like, I have no fucking idea what I'm doing. I was like, oh, no. Dude.

If dad can't do it. it. Me and Jake both together. We literally just like, let's do it together. We started like Muppet shuffling over. And as I'm going, I have this giant beer in my hand. This group walks towards me, knocks it out.

And like, I'm literally about to say hi to Bamarjana. Beer fucking everywhere. And I'm just like, Jake, hold on. Wait, wait, it's like you're running into battle and it's like the soldier next to you

gets like take it out. You're like, no, man, I got to keep going. He was cool. He was very nice. He was very gracious.

I just told him. I was like, hey, big fan. Glad you're in the game. He's like, Oh, yeah, am I like a secret character? I was like, I don't know, dude. He's like, am I hard to unlock?

I was like, I don't know, but you should be because you're worth it. Yeah, you saved that for sure. That was like a good save of the conversation. But that was great. Like Tony Hawks walking around, like a lot of our just kind of like industry friends were there too. Like just good vibes. But like what was crazy is we were all front row of this concert. Yeah, yeah.

We were up against the barricade. It was awesome. Yeah, it's like I am an old ass man. I have not been front row to a concert in decades. Oh, my God. Oh, no. It's you next to what looks like Jesse Fitelli. Yeah,

and Gio, a ton of great people there. Yeah, I'm like front row to Lupe fiasco, which was like absolutely just insane. I am a Lupe fan boy. Yep. I've seen him,

this is my 10th time now, seeing him. Oh my God. And that was a fun surprise. So anyway, never saw him front row. Yeah. Incredible,

incredible stuff and like a very, very, very cool experience. But I definitely regret a couple things. I am a 35-year-old man, and I don't got it like I used to. Even when they make it easy, even when there's not hell of people pushing against you. This was kind of like a nice, relatively chill environment. But like the first couple songs that Steve Caballero's band, which I,

Eurithane. My ears were blown out within 20 seconds of the lane. And we were so close to the stage that the speakers playing the vocals were behind us. So all we heard was the music and no vocals at all. And it was kind of a weird experience. They fixed that throughout the night. At a certain point, the two of you were like, hey, we're going to go enjoy the rap portion of this show up in seats like adults. And I was like, you know what? I'm rocking. I'm standing here the whole time. I'm stuck with it. I still hear. I still hear it. It was horrible. You got to bring into those, you know, the. earbuds, you know. Brian Shea had AirPods in the whole time.

He was a genius. What we'll do is we'll get you to some smaller shows, some smaller really loud punk shows. And we'll kind of, we'll build you back up, Tim, to be prepared for moments like these. I just don't know, man.

My ears are, I think my, they're gone. Like, I think what happened to me that night changed me forever. You were not the same after this. He's broken.

I was happy there was a pit, though. So the adolescence came out and they played. And they were like, they were like an old, like legacy, like California skate punk band like and it was great

and then when they when they got into Amoeba the big song from you know the original Tony Hawk games kind of a pit started going like a three person little it was like a swimming pool it was like 15 people yeah okay all right it was kind of popping off a little bit

yeah you were right next to it I was like yeah I was right next to it and then I got a lot of shit for not actually like joining uh which I understand but I also was like hey I'm trying to like I wanted to support them doing their thing it's always that weird thing where I'm like I really am an old-ass man. It's just like that day I would have been.

You got to pick and choose. Like sometimes you got to help people out. Sometimes you got to join. And, you know, that was just your moment to help people out. I didn't join either, but I really enjoyed watching it because it was kind of like, you know, when you get in like a hot tub or a swimming pool and they all do the, you know, make a whirlpool. That's kind of what it was. It was great. It was awesome.

Yeah. But yeah, Tony Hawks, T-HPS Fest, definitely an experience. I will never forget. Wait a minute. We did bury the lead here. Stu talked about this on the Skillup weekly news show. But, Stu, you know, got to at least briefly meet the man himself. Yes, I did meet Tony Hawk.

It was, I say meet, and it was really just me shaking hands and, you know, being like, thank you for your service. I love your games. Here's my copy of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater for. Could you sign that? And he's like, yeah, man, of course. Like, I'm fine. Like, whatever.

And then other people were mobbing him to come in. So I had to back away. But it was kind of a once-on-a-lifetime thing of like, yeah, thank you for my childhood and my introduction to games and skateboarding and like all that I wanted to say all that to him but all I could say was thank you and then walked away I mean you got your game sign I did I got my pone skater four platinum hits on Xbox sign that you bought the may or may not have bought that day but that's okay I had another copy of it yeah but it was really I mean he was kind of sick I felt like he I felt bad he was coughing a little bit and people

were mobbing him but I think he got his time in everybody got to see him and then he you know went up and introduced all the bands and stuff, so it was cool. Yeah, Jake, I thought you were leading into the most important lead that we buried here. We didn't just meet Tony Hawk. We also met Tony the tiger. Oh, because apparently there's some cross-marketing thing going on with Kellogg's. Yeah.

And like when we left, they gave us skate decks, which was super cool. But then they also gave us like a box of frosted flakes. There was like a Tony Cross Tony thing. And I'm like, what's going on here? I'm not going to lie, that was all I ate for like the three days. I was there. I was like, oh, I'm not trying to spend money. Let me just dig into my frosted flakes.

We walk into the THPS Fest into the theater. Like the first thing we see is this man in a giant Tony the Tiger costume. Incredible. And like, you could just tell this guy was jacked. You know what I mean? Like this guy was immediately intimidated by his alpha male energy. He was like, oh, man, that's a big boy. And we had this whole group of games journalists, just or media, whatever the fuck you want to call us losers.

We're just all standing in a circle next to this giant Tony the Tiger. God. And all of us, of course. And he's just mugging. He's just doing all those. Like, posing on us. And we're all joking about it. I just thought it was so funny. His handler, because he needed a handler. Right. Eventually, Tony was getting a little hot in there.

So he had to go, like, cool off. I don't know what he did. But he walked away. And like the way that this woman talked about Tony. Yes. She just, how would you describe it? Can we talk about it? She came over.

She was literally the same vibe as have some more sloppy joys. but about Tony the Tiger she was like he was real hot in there huh boys yeah that's crazy she's like yeah she's like slapping us on the back yeah I do one of your replies stop it lady you're scared it was very very funny

but yeah we just had such a it was awesome Gio had a Captain Crunch jacket on I was worried they were going to get in a fight or something yeah there was definitely some worries there but everything ended up okay I also got some extra game time in because on the upstairs balcony They just had stations set up

So I was like Oh shit I'm just gonna go get some more game time in So it's good It was good to spend a lot of time with the game Even if it was like a work in progress version of the game See a lot of it was good Also I want to give props where props are

Tim and I both kind of like cleared out all the objectives During the play session pretty easily And then we were kind of hanging around talking And then we played past the controller We just did two minute high scores like we just ran it and uh tim beat me nice good job but it was just it was just but it was just because i mean you started the show saying that tony hawk is like the only game that you're like

good at and i'm right there with you it's the only game that i'm like good at and the same way you said where i'm like i am not saying i'm the best but if i had to play choose a game that i'm like there's a good chance i might beat you it's tony hawk yeah and so we we had a nice little back and forth though and i feel like both of us i could tell you were because i was i kept looking at your screen and i was like he's definitely like we're like at the same level you know Which is, you can watch someone see their style and you're like, okay, cool. I get it. I get where we're at here.

Do you remember the scores? Do you remember what they were? I didn't even, like, yeah, it was a sub-a-million. Almost a million. I was at like 900 something, but I didn't hit that million. Yeah, and I was in this 700. Yeah, we were close. That's the Xbox controller.

Because I've gone on Xbox controller. Xbox controller, stats weren't fully updated at all. We had limited specials. Like, there was a lot of factors around. But anyway, it was definitely a fun time. And I got to meet Andy, T-HPS, which was a very big deal to me because he was there just to play the game and kind of talk about it because now he streams.

If you're into Tony Hawk, you should definitely follow him. He does awesome stuff. Imagine in the community. Yeah, debatably, the greatest Tony Hawk player of all time. And, like, I don't even think it's a debate. Like, I used to download his gameplay videos just to try to learn from him back on, like, Kazan Limewire back in the day when, like, the videos were, like, the smallest things in the world. That's awesome.

But I mean, he's he's incredible and he was so good at the games back in the day. Neversoft ended up hiring him. So he ended up working on most of the games in some way. So it was cool, cool to actually meet him. And he's a super cool guy and like getting his takes on everything was also like very fun. But yeah, he's legit. Yeah. Yeah, right.

He knows what he's doing. Yeah. Credit to his, uh, his coverage too. Uh, it's, it's very in depth. Like he gets very granular. So if you're so into Tony Hawk where you, you, you care about the extremely minute details, he's done a lot of good coverage. just really kind of taken off in the community.

And big, big props to him for that. His interviews were great, too. So, yeah, if you want more, highly recommend his stuff. Absolutely. Very, very, very cool. Andy, THHPS. Check that out. Stakes, Stakes Animation says,

do we know more about the secret SpongeBob area? Oh. Yes and no. We didn't get to play the Skater Island level in the preview we did, but we did see that it's there. Like, there was an image that clearly was Skater Island. the SpongeBob secret area isn't going to be a secret area.

Like what we saw in that switch trailer, that's going to be it. Like if you remember in the original Tony Hawk 3, you could jump off the pirate ship and you kind of go into this area, but it kind of just resets you back. Like it's like just a quick little Easter egg, but now the Easter egg SpongeBob

instead of like whatever the hell it was before, like a shark or whatever. Yeah, Davey Jones Locker or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We're about to wrap up here. Is there any final things you guys want to say about our experience?

No, I just had a great time. time. I was really not, I was expecting something baseline good, but it came away with it much more excited than I expected to be, I think. And yeah, I'm excited to play when it comes out in July. Yeah. Jake. Yeah, I think I'm excited to see, you know, if there are more career goals, like stuff like that kind of addressed. But otherwise, like, I love going into a game preview where I'm like, oh, okay, this is exactly what I was expecting. This is good. Still looking for, you know, the conclusion of the multiplayer and how that's all going to work, but it is going to be crossplay now, and they're really excited about that.

And I think that's good in terms of keeping a player pool tight for a longer period of time, hopefully. And then it's just launch, Iron Galaxy. Iron Galaxy has had a couple of little fumbles in the past. So I hope that doesn't happen with this. But so far, all signs are pointing to it being a pretty good representation of the original game, despite a couple little complaints here and there. So honestly, it's going to be the same thing.

I'm a sucker. I'm going to buy it on my PlayStation, and then I'm going to be like, oh, I want it on Steam deck, and I'm going to buy it there, and then it's going to go on sale on Nintendo Switch or something, and I'm going to buy it there a couple months later.

I'm a sucker. It's just how it goes. But it's my testament to, like, me loving these games. And the fact that it feels like three and four, and I'm already predicting that I'm going to have it on all my devices, that's a win.

Hey, man, I am right there with everything you just said. Thank you, boys, so much for joining me. Stu, where can people find you? You can find me on the SkillUp YouTube channel. I'm not my voice. but I'm editing most of the time and editing the Friends Per Second podcast where I get to listen to Jake's lovely voice

biweekly. And that's it. He edits out all my slurs that I say. God. Jake, no, not you. Horrible, horrible words. Jake, where can people find you?

People can find me everywhere by searching Jake Baldino, B-A-L-D-I-N-O. And I'm also on Game Rinks. I'm on the Friday news show there. I've never missed a Friday in like 10 years. the before you buy videos I do and YouTube.com

slash Jake Baldino. Yeah, I'm all over the place. Of course, friends per second as well. The thing that still works very hard on. I talk with my friends and we have a great time on that podcast. You already know friends per second, but check it out if you don't. Of course, we're talking about Skillup. We're talking about Jake. We're talking about Lucy. God damn James. Legends. All right.

We all already knew that. Thank you, boys, so much for hanging out with us. Thank you, everyone for watching and allowing us to get so nerdy and nerd the hell out about something that we love so much in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. I can't believe it's back. I can't believe we're still talking about it and that it's still this damn good. Stay tuned for our and or screencast.

That's not going to start for another 15 minutes because we have to wait for Carbonian Sage to join, but it's going to be a lot of fun. And then after that will be the NVIDIA-sponsored Doomstream. Check out Nick and Andy playing Doom the Dark Ages. But until next time, love you all. Goodbye.