Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - Why Dauntless Is Awesome - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 231

Episode Date: July 29, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:06 What's up guys? Welcome to the first ever episode 231 of the kind of funny games cast as always I'm Tim Geddy's joined by One of the coolest dudes in video games Greg Miller. Hello Tim like the snow bike Mike shirt Thank you. It's good. I like it as well Solid design. It is see the S for the snow. Yeah the B for the bike The mountains the M for my ad you know that in you know making that in Makes you think I still not like any shirts And he's shirts out for kind of funny is like they're pretty much spot on. Yeah, what we need a party mode shirt. All right it's Party mode like a fucking Andy.
Starting point is 00:00:37 When he desired the Connect between 3 and 5 shirt. Yeah. Which is coming soon. I thought there was going to be like some type of K-F-A-F in the, no. No, no. Too smart. Too smart. Because he's overworked, you guys.
Starting point is 00:00:51 That's the game. No, it's not. I've seen watching Twitch all day. That's the combination that he won with. Oh. No. We need to watch that show. We need to watch that show.
Starting point is 00:01:00 You really don't. We do. And the busiest lady in the business, Andrea. What's good, Tim? How you doing? I'm doing great. You should listen to the pre-show, ladies and gentlemen, if you are a Patreon. A wine clinic put on.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Yeah, we talked a lot about wine. We talked a lot about Olive Garden, and we talked a lot about boobies. It's true. All of those things happened. And joining us for the first time on this show, for his third show of the day. Davis from the Warps. Woo, woo. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:01:28 How are you feeling? You got that pasta in your belly? I went with salmon and broccoli. Okay. But I got, yeah, but it didn't feel good. Yeah. I forgot what you called it already, Rosato. Rosato.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah, it's Italian rosé, but it's rosato. It's fun. It's fun for everyone. It sounds like, it does, it sounds, when you say it, I think it's that rice dish that I can't remember the name of it. Rosotto. Thank you. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:53 But this is the kind of funny games cast. Did the wine have the texture of a risotto? It actually kind of tastes like fruit juice. Huh. With like red wine. On YouTube.com slash kind of funny games. We get together, talk about video games, all the things that we love about them. You can get it as a video.
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Starting point is 00:03:03 Because right now, Davis, I asked you, What games you've been playing? You said in a whole bunch of stuff that I don't think we were talked about on the show. Okay. So that's exciting stuff. But I want to start not with any of those. PC. There's a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I mean, PC, it's all over the place. Sure it is. I want to start this. What is your game of the year so far? Oh. Putting you on the spot. That's a big question. There's only one correct answer.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You know that, right? What's your correct answer? Resident Evil 2 remake? I love the hell out of that. The Division 2. Is there a butt? Excellent. My game of the year, I actually,
Starting point is 00:03:36 of three games of the year. And none of them are out yet. So amongst my favorite games of all time, Link's Awakening. Okay. Final Fantasy 8. Oh, yeah. And classic World of Warcraft.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And they are all coming out in like the next couple months. They're all getting remade or re-released. So yeah, all accepted. It's a great time to be alive. So far, but the best is yet to come. No, but we said so far. Yeah. So best, what's the,
Starting point is 00:04:00 what's your game of the year so far? Pick a fucking game. You can have the conversation. Talk it out. If it was December right now and there was to be no more games released this year. And what has already been released is all you can choose from. I would say Resident, too. I've played through it a couple times now. It's awesome. Yeah. Solid answer. Do you think the year's been great so far? Yes. I kind of think I play
Starting point is 00:04:24 games from all eras at all the time. Sure. So time's a flat circle. If there's, yeah, if there's not anything new exciting, I'm just like digging into my back catalog. So I always think it's a good year. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I love the they're just bringing more and more and more stuff to the switch. Sure. That's like where I'm at right now. I'm playing Cuphead for the third time. Now on the switch, so. Have you ever beaten it?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. Oh, wow, Tim. How many times? How many times you beat it? Twice? Yeah, Susie. We're on the same page. Barrett.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Do you have to get Barrett here? Big Dick Barrett out here. Oh, I beat it three times. I just beat it up. I didn't do the hard mode. So I'm a casual. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Sure. In that regard. There is no shame in baby-ass baby mode. It's regular mode. No, Kevin. I'm not even easy, guys. There is no easy mode in Cuphead. That's true.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah, there is. No, there's not. Yes, there is. No, there's not. What do you mean? It's not an easy mode. It's not an easy mode where people who struggle to do certain mechanics can actually make it through. It's not like Celeste, where they have a mode where you can not die throughout the whole game.
Starting point is 00:05:28 What? Where was that at the end of the Celeste? Yeah, they haven't invented, in the accessibility features. Yeah. You can, like, just fall into all the pits. You just bounce out of them. I broke up with my joycon over that game. Now it's only pro-controller.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Nice. Nice. Fair. Yeah, it's like, you can't get me where I need to go. I know exactly how you feel, but I completed Celeste start to finish in handheld mode. Okay, I'm just not going off beyond the podcast. Yeah, no, it was dumb. It was what it was.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah, no, no, no. Celeste was made for the pro controller. Like, the big shoulder button, like for the dashes and stuff, it feels so good. Got to love it. Yeah. So the three games you're most excited for that are, Link's Awakening. Final Fantasy 8 remastered and Wow, wow classic, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Is there any other big games coming out this year that you're stoked for? Like Pokemon I'm excited for because I love Pokemon. I know there's a lot of controversy around it now, but I'm still excited for it. You're going sword or shield? Shield because everybody wanted to do sword, but I love fighting gyms. And I think it's a sword exclusive is the fighting gym leader.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So I'm like, but these aren't really problems. These are first-world gaming problems. Sure, we'll play them both. So, Final Fantasy, can you believe it's being remaster? Yes, because I've wanted it so long. And, well, when they did that big direct, was it this year or last year, where they were like, and seven, and, yeah, they skipped eight, fucking chocobo mystery dungeon or some bullshit got remade. And everyone was like, you know, shitting on me because they know I love eight.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And now I'm like, guess what? It's remastered. You get the last one. It looks like a PS2 game now. I never thought we'd see the day that eight would actually come out. It is a wonderful, it's my first, like, console one. So, like, I'll always, it'll always be that special game. And kind of like the new Fire Emblem, it takes place in, like, a school-type situation, too, the gardens.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And it's, I freaking love it, dude. On Games Daily, he was talking about how much he loves school children. If you put... I mean, I miss it talking to the point of bit, but... Have you been playing Fire Emblem Three Houses? I haven't picked it up yet, but I'm... I've kind of, like, dabbled a little bit in the series, but it's not been my thing, but this one looks like it might be the one for me.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah, you love it, right? The review of Bargo is finally up today, so I'm all popping 9-5s, 9s out there. Loving it so much. I've only maybe doubled my progress from last time. Okay. It's getting in there. Now I'm like, all right, this is Firewood, baby.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Let's go. But, okay, I want to talk about Dauntless. We've talked about it on the show. Yeah, Donnells. I didn't know you're playing. Can we be friends? Yeah. I love Donnells.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Why? Well, so I have tried to get into Monster Hunter over the years, and World was like the most time I put into it. But there's just two. much, I got like game ADD. I'm always like just trying to like play something fun and then get out and play something new. And world, there was too much prep time, too many recipes and too much like hunting of the
Starting point is 00:08:17 monsters. Donless is just like distilled down to like you go in, you pick the monster, you spend like two seconds looking for it. You pop a flare. Yeah. And then everyone converges and you just like have crazy monster fights. It's all about that. So that's why I'm really into it.
Starting point is 00:08:37 It's completely crossplay, which is like insane. You can play, I don't know if the switch version's out yet, but PC, PS4, you can switch, you can play your own account on any of the things. It's cross progression too. And it auto fills the hunts. So like when I played a world, I didn't always want to try to mess with it really, at least for me, convoluted online system. Here, every time I'm fighting a monster, it's four people with me, or three other people with me, and it's epic and everyone's got different weapons. And it's just like, it's what I'm. I wanted from Monster Hunter
Starting point is 00:09:07 and all of the other stuff is cut out. You can still customize your character. There's still resource hunting to build armor, but it's streamlined such that you don't have to kill yourself trying to figure it out. How many hours do you put into it? A lot.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Have you been playing since launch? Because it's been a good amount of time now since then. I don't use a lot of... You got to get up in there. Normally we do sketches so we have a person who's like micing me. Yeah. Thank you. I'm told on everything I do that I suck it. The mic stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Mike discipline, yeah. Yeah. A lot, probably like above 50. Wow. Wow. Yeah. No, that's great.
Starting point is 00:09:45 This is what I've been trying to tell people about Donald's as well, so I'm so glad that you're enjoying and having a good time. It takes like that essence of Monster Hunter, but it makes it way more approachable. I also, Monster Hunter World was my first real monster hunter experience.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I had played a couple of the 3DS versions and kind of dabbled, but I was like, it was way over my head. I was like there's too many RPG systems. And I also felt that with Monster Hunter World, it was just so many systems at play that I just ended up ignoring like a lot of the craftable stuff that I was like,
Starting point is 00:10:15 I'm not even going to bother. And does that mean I'm probably playing suboptimal and not really doing the RPG the way it's supposed to be done? Maybe, but I still had fun. And I'm still looking forward to going back into Iceborne and maybe doing that research into those systems that I just ignored the first time.
Starting point is 00:10:31 But that's what's great about Dauntless is that you can do a hunt and be done in like less than 20 minutes. But in Monster Hunter, that's not necessarily the case. Well, see, to me, you know, you know how over the moon I was with Monster Hunter, right? 130 hours. And it was that I was in all the systems and I was chasing different armor and I was farming this one monster to get the thing to do the stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Now, though, having taken so much time off of that, even getting ready for Iceborne or being excited for Iceborn, but even thinking of like, oh man, it'd be cool to go back to that, right? Like Kevin nailed it when he predicted we'd play it for two months and never go back. Just the fact of now it is, I know. know that I used to know those systems and now I can't think of how they all go back together. It's the same thing with DC Universe online. We're like, oh man, I missed that. And I remember booting it up two years, last year, a year and a half ago. And it just being like, they've reassigned
Starting point is 00:11:17 all my points and I need to do it. But I don't even know what my old build was, let alone what I need to do now where I should be going, what I should be doing all that stuff. I think you're selling yourself short. It's a little bit like riding a bike. It's a little wobbly for the first few minutes. And then you're like, oh yeah, I know what I'm. I know what I'm. I know what I'm. I got to play. the iceborne expansion at E3, and for the first 10 minutes, it was me remembering all of the different types of ammo that go in the light bow gun
Starting point is 00:11:44 because that was my weapon of choice and remembering what all the different consumables do and not really digging into like the armor specs, but just being like, oh, yeah, I spent like, you know, 80 to 100 hours doing this. I remember how to do it. It just took a little bit. Yeah, when I jumped in at E3 and play too,
Starting point is 00:12:01 it was the same thing of, oh, cool, I'm back and I'm doing it, I'm using my dual blades. I remember all this, but it was a little bit of dropping us in an easy mode, right? Because it was like, cool, just got on the quest for your thing, great, and everything's set up. I'm worried about going back and there have been so many updates and so many differences to the hub world and so many new items that I'm going to be like, what the fuck does any of this mean? What do I do? Is there an inventory limit? What armor was I chasing?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Is that garbage now? Well, that's a, oh, I was going to say, it's a good question for you, Davis, as someone who's been playing a lot of Dantless, because Dantlis is really designed to be a more approachable, pared down experience. Do you feel like you still have enough to chase to keep you interested or is it really just designed to be like a disposable experience? There's still tons of customization options you can do and you get like orbs, you can sock it in your things and there's different ranks of them. So there's always, I haven't unlocked the hardest level of monsters yet. The behemists.
Starting point is 00:12:55 There's three levels of them, right? Yeah. At least, I think they just added more in some, they had a whole new content thing released when I was out of the country, so I haven't explored all that yet. But I know there's like, yeah, a whole other layer of things to do. And yeah, I've been playing a bunch and I don't feel like I'm running out of stuff to do. You don't feel it's all pointless. No.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And there's like, even within each weapon type, there's like a bunch of different builds that honestly feel like kind of different, even though you're doing the same, like, six moves. So, yeah, I don't know. I think that there is enough to stick with for a while. Do you think it's enough to, or easy enough that you could put it down to come back in two months and be able to drop right back in? I put it down for two weeks and then came back. The first fight back was rough.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Rough. I was just like on my ass the whole time getting resurrected. But by the second one, I was like S ranking. I was like chucking my axe and doing stuff. And so, yeah, it's pretty cool. Because that was, Barrett and I went out to the bar last night played Ultimate Alliance. And one of the things we were talking about with it and me in particular of like how in love I am with that game.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But the fact that it's the third in the series and it is, you know, for all intents of purposes, the things about it that are basic. Like, you know, you drop in, everybody kind of feels same where you can understand, like, this class of person. It feels to me the same way Smash felt to you, I think, Tim, where, cool, I'm definitely going to put it down, and I want to hit up the new moonlighter DLC,
Starting point is 00:14:15 and I want to do this, and, like, Division's got, you know, the new stuff. I'm going to put down our Marvel Ultimate Alliance, but I feel like I'm going to pick it back up in X amount of time, days, weeks, months, and I'll be able to drop right back in and not be like, what was I doing? Because the game is just builds around smashing shit and leveling up. Okay, I got that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Um, did you play Daltless at all? I haven't yet, no. When it comes to Switch, because this sounds like a Greg Miller ass. I think you would really like it. For me, when our friend Andy was working on PR for it and sending stuff out for it, and I, we got it. I got the code and I think I have installed on the PlayStation 4, but for me, yes, the big hook was Switch and the cross progression to have it wherever we're going.
Starting point is 00:14:51 But there's also something about it where I don't know what I need to get into it. I don't know what kind of push I need because it's the same thing where Monster Hunter World got me so hard and I was so into it. But Monster Hunter World was the first Monster Hunter I had played since I reviewed him at IG on like PSP. And it was like almost like I had a hangover from it. Like I kind of got it. So to have another Monster Hunter like game now, it's that thing of cool, that's awesome. I'm not craving that right now, right? Like I'm not ravenous for that. And even Iceborne, when I jump back in, it was that like, this game was fucking awesome. And it was awesome playing this with Jen every night and Kevin, you know, like I would love to
Starting point is 00:15:28 do that again. But I still sit down. I'm like, well, Borderlands is going to give me that experience and Borderlands right around the corner and then we have, there's so many other games that I'm like chomping at the bit for that I really, really, really want that like an update to Monster Hunter or a game in that vein, I'm just like, meh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I know Andy played it when, uh, Dauntless when it first launched. She was super into it. Uh, the next game I want to talk about, I don't think I've ever heard of. Hunt Showdown. Yes. Uh, this game was introduced me by So Hinky. It is a, it's still in like early access or,
Starting point is 00:15:56 or beta, like an extended beta, but it's launching in the next couple months. It is a, it's for PC and I think Xbox now. It's a first person shooter. It is a like PVPVE game. And it's basically, it's set in the late 1800s in like the bayou. And you make a character and you out, you outfit them with cool guns. And you basically load into a map.
Starting point is 00:16:17 There's five teams of two. And you and your partner need to track down clues to find like a horrific boss, like a giant spider creature or like a dude with a pig head and a fire. And littered throughout. are tons of like zombies and hellhounds. Kev. Can you look up? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I think this was at E3, right? It was at the, in the Microsoft presentation for Xbox. I think so, yeah. I remember seeing, now that you're talking about it, I remember seeing this, and I remember being like, that looks cool. Yeah, sound design, it's so important. You have to listen for cues for other players. All the other teams are trying to hunt down the person also,
Starting point is 00:16:53 so you get into, like, fights. Yeah. Okay, so it's first person. Yeah, look at them, leech. Bomb land. That's a cool weapon. This is like, because I'm a big bloodborne fan, this is like my favorite weapon, because it just reminds me of like a bloodborn weapon. So you got a standard pistol there. What is that?
Starting point is 00:17:09 So it's really strategic and tactical. Like, and so when you get, when you get to the boss, you have to kill it and then you have to banish it, which takes time. And it alerts all the other players to you. So you kind of want to like set up traps in the building you're in to stop them from stealing your prize. How do you batish them? You just press F or E or whatever it is. Press F to pay. And then just a cool, like, swirling animation happens,
Starting point is 00:17:33 and you've got to wait like a minute. But it alerts every, all the hunters on the map to where you are. And they're trying to stop you. They're trying to get the thing to? Yeah, the token is how you win. You have to, like, get it. And you can steal it from other hunters that have it, but you have to get to an exit point.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Okay. So then they can kill you and take the token. Yes. So it's kind of like Battle Royale, but with a weird supernatural boss. Yeah, it's battle royale in that you have to... Yeah, capture the flag. I guess it's like you only have one life.
Starting point is 00:18:02 If you lose you, it's permanent. Yeah. Okay. And then you have to like recruit a new hunter the next time you want to play and buy. It's kind of like Counterstrike. You buy weapons for that. They have a similar system where you get to choose your loadouts. There's rifles and shotguns and every kind of fantasy things.
Starting point is 00:18:17 PVPE. I like that. That's a nice ring too. But it's like, I'm not even very good at it, but it's so addicting. Like I got into battle royals for a little bit. And there's the rush of just having one life, but I don't. like the randomness to it.
Starting point is 00:18:32 This, you get to pick your load out and so there's less randomness to it, but there's still, the firefights are so tense because one lucky shot can end your whole setup. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Are you playing on PC or Xbox? PC. Gotcha. Dork. And the SB and PC dork shit. The next game you have, I also have never heard of. Mordhow.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Oh, Mordhow. Mordhow is wonderful. Did you guys ever hear of chivalry? Yes. I've heard of it. Of course. It's a first person medieval simulator where you're just... It was really huge.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah, I was obsessed with chivalry. Shilvary 2 is coming out, so I'm excited for that. And this is just like that, but with... Multiplayer medieval slasher. Create your mercenary and fight in brutal battles where you will experience fast-paced combat, castle, sieges, cavalry charges, and more. Yeah, it has an insane first person.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I don't know if they'll actually show you the HUD. But you pick how you swing, where you swing, you can do cool parries and reversals. So this is similar to For Honor? Why would he do that? Oh, so you can flip it. That's better against armor. You can knock off armor pieces of your opponent.
Starting point is 00:19:42 You're an audio listener. He was swinging the sword by the blade rather than the hill. That is a whole Reddit post about Mordhow being a better game than Forer Honor. There it is, yeah. Turn around. Yeah, it's really more like, uh, for honor was like cool, but it's so... Oh, he hit it with the butt end of the sword. I love it.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah. It's really just like It looks just like chivalry It feels just like chivalry Except for like Some new features And you can kind of like Customize your loadouts and stuff
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's another game that I am so bad at But being in like a 60 plus person server And just like running in and screaming And you'll be like fighting I'll have died like eight times in a row And then I'll just get a lucky thing And I'll cleave somebody's head off And I'll feel like I'm fucking
Starting point is 00:20:23 From the Jedi's game Like an airborne or something You're just like yeah And that one kill will sustain me for like an hour. That one piece of endorphine. Yeah. And then a much more lighthearted game,
Starting point is 00:20:35 cadence of high rule. Oh. I still haven't played. What? Yeah. Oh my gosh. I didn't have internet access. I didn't have internet access for the flight back from,
Starting point is 00:20:44 I think it was E3, right? Yes, it can't have. Yeah, came that week. One of the two. And then I just got totally screwed out of it. You would love it. Rhythm and Zelda.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I didn't like Crypt of the Necro dancer that much. I think the reason why you might like Cadence of Highroll instead is because it's... Zelda? I like the music in Crypt of the Neckerdancer. Yeah, the Zelda pull, though, in Cadence of Highroll, really harkens back to early Zelda games. That exploration, that not knowing what's behind the wall,
Starting point is 00:21:16 having to search for hidden objects, really just feel super nostalgic in that way. So even if you've never played Crypto of the Neckor Dancer, you can, if you're like a deep Zelda fan from like decades ago, you'll be able to pick this up because you can turn some of the beat matching elements of it off like that really defined what Crypto the Necro Dancer was. There are things inside the menus that can make it a little bit easier if you just want to have that puzzle exploration side of it and don't want to focus too much on the beat matching.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Is that good though? It sounds like it kind of breaks the game. The style of play is the way it's intended to be played? No, right? It's intended to be played in a way that you're supposed to really strategize watching all of these different monsters move around the map to these different beats and then timing your moves and your combat, almost
Starting point is 00:22:05 in like a dance where you're like flowing across the map to these different rhythms. And what's cool about is that each time you move in a tile, the song and the tempo changes. But they have like a little metronome on the bottom of the screen to help you keep your rhythm, which is nice. How did you do? I sucked
Starting point is 00:22:21 at this game. And I love music and rhythm games. You know this. And I just like could not get a groove. I am like the only person that doesn't love this game. I love the music. I love the Zelda stuff because I'm a big Zelda fan. I played for a couple hours with the beat on, and then I just got so tired of,
Starting point is 00:22:38 even if I wanted to skip through levels, you have to go on the beat, otherwise it stops you, so I turned it off. It's cool. It is like a dance strategy game because you almost have to plan based on enemy movements
Starting point is 00:22:50 and your weapons and abilities. You have to time out how many squares and jumps you want to do, which is like cool, but it's just not my thing. It looks, it's gorgeous and it looks so much like a Zelda that I just wanted it to be a regular Zelda. But I'm glad I like bought it and supported the developer and it's, I know that people that like fucking love it. So you might love it.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah, yeah, I need to give it a shot. I think the Venn diagram overlap for Tim Getty's is there. But I was, again, I really tried. I gave Necrodancer like multiple shots and it's just something about I was like, it felt like it wasn't enough of a rhythm game, which is a weird thing to say. but it did feel almost more like strategy RPG, just like, so, you know, like a strategy RPG, you're kind of like choosing the grid system
Starting point is 00:23:35 of where you're going, but then you take like the active time battle of a Final Fantasy where it's like, it's still turn-based, but it's like, you gotta keep moving, you gotta keep it quick. It kind of felt like that. I'm like, I don't know that I necessarily want either of those things together
Starting point is 00:23:46 and add Zelda to it. And it's just like, hmm, like all three of those things now. I'd rather kind of this, this, or this, not together. But how many songs are there? Is it like just the same Zelda overall? world theme over and over. There's a bunch and I believe there's like three versions of each depending on
Starting point is 00:24:01 like if you're in combat, if you're not. But a lot of times I'll just sit on a screen and listen to the music. That's rad. Yeah. Cool game. And then Cuphead. You're playing for the third time on Switch. I am. In your Tesla. Wait, what? You can play in your Tesla? Yeah. Not yet, right? They're releasing it.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah. On the big screen. It's just the world one or whatever. Right. First Island. Yeah. Oh, okay. So you said you beat it two times now. Was it on Xbox? And then on PC? Yeah, I did on Xbox, then I got it on PC, and now I have it on Switch. How far are you?
Starting point is 00:24:32 I'm on the second chunks of islands. But yeah, I'm just going through it at a fun pace. I tried playing it because it was when I was in England, and so I had to kind of use the JoyCon for a little bit, which is also this game is not a good JoyCon game, because you just have to, like, so precisely dodge projectiles and aim and stuff. But it's great with the Procontroller. and I can't believe I'm still like in awe every time I turn it on that it's on the switch
Starting point is 00:25:00 I don't know like I'm just like oh you should have always been here this is like it's crazy I ran into one of the creators of it at 3
Starting point is 00:25:10 wait that's not right where did I just go Comic Con and we were talking about the Netflix show which is just insane like did you hear about this that got announced
Starting point is 00:25:18 while I was playing on the switch and I was like all right cool so crazy Cuphead anime show on Netflix that's gonna be so great for that IP because I want a cup head too sooner than later. You're going to get a cup head.
Starting point is 00:25:29 It's going to be so long. They delayed that DLC. They delayed it. It was supposed to be this year and they pushed it to 2020. I think that they're in a better shape for Cuphead too because they've learned from their woeful mistakes of their animation process for the first Cuphead, which
Starting point is 00:25:45 obviously delivered this beautiful product but their workflow inefficiencies were really substantial which is why it took so long for Cuphead to get made. And they've been introduced to a lot of more advanced ways to do the type of animation that they're trying to do so they can optimize their workflow for Cuphead 2 so hopefully we won't have to wait six or seven years to see Cuphead 2. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and the DLC, it's like, it's coming along and it's
Starting point is 00:26:12 going to be great, but like I still don't think it's going to be that substantial. Like, it might be like a island. Like one island. Yeah, which, hey, I'm going to, I'll take it. Like, that sounds awesome. But it's good that they're not really in charge of making the TV show. They're like, there's going to be another studio making that. They're kind of just like making some decisions. What's up? You know, I don't follow one. So do you think, and I, they haven't announced another project, right?
Starting point is 00:26:34 DLCs. Studio MBA. Yeah, exactly. To make sure. The last delicious course is what they're publicly working on. Do you think their next thing's Cuphead two and they double down or? Or you don't think they do something different? Why would they?
Starting point is 00:26:45 I mean, especially. But here's the thing. Yeah, but here's the thing you're thinking as if they were developers working for EA or whatever. They're weird indies, right? And they're weird indies up in Canada. Creatives. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:56 They don't want to do the exact same thing. A no cop head is in smash. They're going to keep making comedy. Oh, okay. Is that like a direct quote from somebody? No. No, that's just Tim Getty. That's the Tim Getty.
Starting point is 00:27:05 No, but I mean, like, I talked to him at GDC and he was like saying like, because that was when around that time is when they made some announcement for it was right off the Joker stuff. So people were like super stoggy. He's like, dude, we got to get cut uphead and smash. Like that would be so great. He was doing IGN interviews. I'm about that as well.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And I talked to him a little about it at ComicCon. It's like, it's going to happen eventually. Oh, yeah. Eventually, I know. And it's just like, I just feel like it being a Netflix show is going to be so great for Cuphead as a brand. A brand. Yeah. That Cuphead 2, I think, is inevitable.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Like, they have to do it. And it might not be the exact same thing, but. Strike while the internet's hot. Yeah, totally. And I think it's going to be hot for a long time. And especially if they're going to keep being partnered with Microsoft, like Microsoft could use, uh, identifiable characters. Sure. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah. So I'm all about it, man. Let's go. You need to be cup at one day You got it in you You got it in you I'm with you I'm sure I do
Starting point is 00:28:00 But that falls into the Super Mario Maker Things I watch Andy do I'm just like no I don't want to be punished I don't want to repeat the same thing Over and over again To get to pass the next thing Yeah no thanks I'm good
Starting point is 00:28:10 I respect it I totally get why people love it But like that goes back To what I was talk about With like You know With all the throwback And redshirt stuff
Starting point is 00:28:17 People get so excited And I'm only And I like it And there's certain ones Obviously that speak This isn't a This isn't a Greg rule Or something
Starting point is 00:28:24 but if games hadn't evolved past what they were in terms of game design, I wouldn't be a gamer. Like I just wouldn't, like, playing stuff and like when you place punishing Ninja Turtles on fucking NES, battle toads, like the things that are like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:28:37 that's a really hard game. I'd be like, yeah, it's not hard and I get excited. It's hard and I get frustrated. I don't want to play this. You know what I mean? I want to play games for entertainment.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I want to play games to succeed. Not that I need baby-ass baby mode. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Or do I need the game just to be a, you know, a walking simulator. stuff right like yeah but yes baby motor cup heads YouTube one more time baby ask baby's baby's just watching somebody else
Starting point is 00:29:01 play yeah yeah yeah yeah but it's just I'm not that you know me I'm just not that platformer guy like I honestly we talked about it on on it's boss fight it kind of is I mean it's not but when we when I talked about this recently on I guess games daily or whatever I mean Gary were arguing about trophies some more because of course you didn't know ladies you don't like I got my 100th platinum no big deal thank you all for celebrating so I only drink out of this cup now How do you do you just off set a box inside mainly was the cake I don't know if you saw it did not they sent a Susie cake that had a platinum 100 on it Oh yeah and it kind of got shifted around it was kind of fucked up and then they wonder how Kevin no actually I think it was me
Starting point is 00:29:37 Because the people we're all in there go what's this and and Joey's like it's fragile it's fragile it's fragile it says fragile really big on it Damn that's a good Kevin laugh but there is a still of me on the subreddit of tipping it like yeah to get the words on the screen And inside there was the comic books for the division There was a poster There were some key chains There was a battery Charging pack There was a code for some of the cash keys
Starting point is 00:30:03 For the heat wave apparelment That's going on right now Just cool stuff like that Just a little celebrations Did that come on? Oh no I remember that I bought this off If you're an audio listener
Starting point is 00:30:10 I have a PlayStation trophy glass That I bought off merchoid And when it finally got here Because I ordered it months ago When it finally got here It was so close to platinum 100 I was like I won't drink out of it It's just my trophy
Starting point is 00:30:20 You get it really I did I did I know I spent the $20 bucks. That water is extra hydrating man, you know what I mean? How was the stream?
Starting point is 00:30:28 I didn't get to tune to that. Thanks, Tim, for all your support is always really good to know your close friend. It was great. It was cool. Me and Fran got out there again. We hadn't done that in a long time. It was me, Fran.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Richie, line cook himself. And then the platinum prince, Josh Grav, who of course, I gave a lot of shoutouts to there and I'll give him a shout out here. Josh is the one who helped me grind out the dark zone PVP ones I needed.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Well, where the dark zone? You got to go in. You have to extract something from every dark zone, Not tough. I'd already pretty much done that on my own. But then it's the normal one of kill a rogue or whatever, rogue agent in every dark zone. Oh, finding those is actually very difficult.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And that's why, just like Division 1, where I did it with Cameron, this time around with Josh, we'd go in and a team. And then he would go road? He leaves the team. He shoots me dead. I come back in and kill him. There you go. That's one, two, three. And then there was another one of cutting the line
Starting point is 00:31:14 and taking somebody's drop when, like, is there about to export it around? Oh, okay. But it's, and that's my thing about, and I'm not trying to go on rant about trophies or whatever. I understand the, reasoning behind putting those in because that's a cool thing. Most people are if they're caring about trophies or hunting those trophies,
Starting point is 00:31:30 which means you just sit there and do it the wrong way. So like, why I even put that crap in? Especially when it's tied to something that's matchmaking based and is tied to server populations. Because didn't we talk about one of the most egregious ones was from Friday the 13th? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like an impossible task to get and it's almost like they put it in as a troll.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And it's just like because you only get Jason as like an R&G pick. Like you can ask to be Jason, but there's no guarantee that you get to play as Jason. And so trying to get him X amount of times for the trophy was like, yo, this is not cool, bro. And that's the thing is like I would, those kind of trophies if you wanted to, multiplayer trophies are done the best by Noddy Dog in all the uncharted games
Starting point is 00:32:15 where it was literally like, try this mode, try this other mode. Cool. You've gotten all the uncharted multiplayer trophies for the base game. for the platinum. We're going to do DLC and it will be now. Get a million kills with this, do this thing, we get all that.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But that's not stuff that affects the platinum that's actually going. DLC trophies are their own beast. You can just go in and do it and keep people going. So that's my thing too with like Friday 13th, which I love, right? It was like,
Starting point is 00:32:38 make that an attainable platinum and a fun of platinum. And then, yeah, go ahead and put it in a DLC trophy that is get Jason a million times or whatever. It doesn't matter. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:45 or make it an achievement in the sense that it's not just like a checkbox on your trophies or your achievements, but that instead of making it a trophy, make it like an exclusive cosmetic item. Like if you get this crazy number of things and you get this like super rare like mask or costume or something. When trophies and achievements are done right,
Starting point is 00:33:06 they get you to play something you wouldn't normally play or play a way you wouldn't normally play. And that's the thing, right? Where it's like, cool, yeah, maybe an uncharted, I wouldn't have tried those modes, but I did because of this and I found, you know, 5% of that group finds out they love uncharted multiplayer
Starting point is 00:33:18 and plays in childhood multiplayer, right? Whenever it's the try every well, That's always a really good idea because I'm totally not that guy where I come in and I'm like I'm going to use like you know the division I use an assault rifle and I use a shotgun and I use the crossbow is my main right that if I didn't have to go experimented. I would have to go around. You find different things different tactics different moves. That's cool. That's a great way to do it. Was there any moment during your stream you thought you weren't going to be able to do it? No, I had gone and done a lot of legwork not do that. I did have a scare in the morning when we were driving when I was coming to work on the bus. I was going to be able to be able to do it. I was going to be able to be able to through looking at the trophies one more time and I was like wait and I texted Fran I'm like the last two things because all I had to do was do two missions on hard and I was like they're strongholds do we have to do things to unlock those and Fran's like I can't remember either and I just changed the difficulty yeah no it was fine but I was concerned all of a sudden of like shit is this two missions are these two missions about to turn into like six total
Starting point is 00:34:14 because I have to do two other things oh and I didn't have to do any of that so they got asked me why you're asking Fran we're already talking about it because Fran doesn't know. You know what I mean? But we got here when I got, you know, it's just away from the thing. Turned it on. And yeah, we were fine. But yeah, once we got in and got going, no, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Well, congratulations. Thank you. We were rusty as fuck. We were terrible. Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, hard isn't hard, especially for like, level 500 people. No.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Then the fan was like, oh, it's going to be so. Shot dead. We were all like, you idiot, Fran. And then I got shot. Fuck, because it's going to be tougher than we thought it was going to be. But it was a fun time. It was a good time. A lot of people showed up.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You got some more Pokemon Go stuff. Well, I want to make one point that I think was interesting. I was driving there originally and got off track. What I want to do about something I hadn't talked about in this showcase, actually. Oh, we're talking about easy. You were just talking about easy and cup heading how Cuphead could be a game I should play and do all these different things, right? On my hunt for the 100th platinum, right, when I was just knocking out other platinum.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I was doing all the Radalika games, right? Which are, you know, usually just not great games with easy trophy list, right? Like the five-minute trophies, right? Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I had done one. Kevin, can you bring out my trophies? I forget what the name is. I want to say Metagel. PSN profiles.com slash game over Gregi.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Do you care about trophies? Trophies do not do much for me, but when one pops up, I feel like I... Hey, that's cool. Yeah, I beat that mission in the campaign. All right, I am pretty good. I'm pretty proud of that. But I'm not like a person that will hunt him down. Give me a couple more scrolls.
Starting point is 00:35:39 There you go. Stop. Metagal. Metagal. I started playing, right? And it was, I think I told you about this, but we never talked about it on a show. I was playing it. And I was like, okay, cool. It's Mega Man inspired. It's a Mega Man game, right?
Starting point is 00:35:49 And I was like, I'm not a Mega Man fan, but the trophies are easy. And I was playing and I was actually having a good time with it to the point that when I, I platinum it and whatever was like 15 minutes. And I shut it down. We were going somewhere. And I went and I bought Mega Man Legacy Collection. Did we? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It went that far. Did you actually start playing? I've played Mega Man 2 and beat Mega Man 2 for the first time. No way. Yeah. Now granted, because, of course, the legacy collection is, totally not what would have driven me away from Mega Man, which is like, oh, I fucked up, Rewind.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Oh, I fucked up, rewind. I don't have to fucking sit there and get punished over and over and over again. It feel like an asshole, right? Instead I went to there, was doing the boss things, learning their strategies, jumping over, shit. It's like, this is fun. That's awesome. But because I could rewind and not be feeling like I was being drunk through a bed of glass. Like, I feel
Starting point is 00:36:33 a cuphead would make me feel. Yeah, I don't know. Pokemon Go. Pokemon Go. As everybody knows, I've fallen in love with Pokemon Go. the street continues Jen and I are still getting up early in the morning and going for walks getting a cup of coffee walking around playing Pokemon Go
Starting point is 00:36:47 How many do you got them now? Pretty much them all I don't know I'm not playing it that way I did send Goldfarb and I had a bunch of nerdy questions So I'm texting an Andrew Goldfarber about it And eventually he's like send me a screenshot And he was very impressed that I had
Starting point is 00:37:01 Gold in the Canto region and silver and the other two So he's like that's pretty good for how much you How long you've been obsessed? I'm like good to know Yeah so I've already talked to everybody's here about Pokemon Go. But what I was really blown away with was community day where so every month you know they do community today where I guess for three hours it was four to seven this last one it was over the weekend right that this one in particular it was four to seven triple
Starting point is 00:37:23 XP and a bunch of mud kips were gonna be out so you could get them and do that they have mud kips man right there's there a meme are they mug what's the meme? I don't remember that it was so long ago they're just but I heard you like mud mud kips but it's spelled weird I haven't seen that mean, but I like it already. Andrew is on it. I heard you like mud kips. Yeah, I heard you like mud kips mean. I heard you like mud kips.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Oh, it's spelled all funny too. Heard as in like a herd, like you heard cattle. H-R-D-U, L-I-E-K. Yes, I have my ad block on. Get off of my shit. Anyways, mud kips, triple XP for three hours, right? And what I've always not, not I've always said, but like with Jen and I being obsessed with Pokemon Go right now,
Starting point is 00:38:08 it's so crazy to have it suddenly kind of peeled back, like how people are still into this game. Because the conversation about Pokemon Go that got us started playing was just how successful it is and how they've added so much stuff and all these different things. And then, you know, a couple weeks ago now or whatever, last week, Jen and I were walking around Golden Gate Park. And she was like, it was a quiet morning
Starting point is 00:38:28 and there was a woman in front of us and her joggers walking as well. And she's like, look, she's playing Pokemon Go. I'm like, no, she's not because I'm there fucking cashing everything left and right. And she's like, no, she's just doing Pocostops. And sure enough, every time it came up to a Pocop, it made the noise in our earboat, I guess, and she pulled it up, got the Pocostop did it. And like, since now starting to play,
Starting point is 00:38:48 it's this fucking bizarre thing of like, it's the thing. Whenever people pass me, I look at their phone and like 80% at a time, these fuckers are playing Pokemon ghost and wandering on doing stuff. It's like the end of John Wick too when he's there after him. And all of a sudden, everyone's an assassin.
Starting point is 00:39:01 You're just like, everyone plays Pokemon. Exactly, right? And so it's been cool, but it's like, not everybody. So it's just like, you know, these interesting things of, oh, that person's walking and playing too.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That's interesting. But this community day was coming around. We all, I had almost, Jen and I'd almost forgotten about it. But when we heard about it, like, oh, fuck, yeah, let's go do it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So, you know, four to seven, we popped out there at, you know, four, 15 or whatever, and went into the park. And I was floored. I was floored.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I was floored. Tim, everyone was out there playing Pokemon and go. Everyone. It was such a, I felt like, time jump moment
Starting point is 00:39:36 to when Pokemon Go, launched. Because if you remember when it launched, it was everywhere and you couldn't get away from it and like, you know, dirty Nellies had the sign outside about not being a Pocostop. Go away even though they were a Pocostop. And like, people were in our sleepy neighborhoods like yelling about Charmander and running around. And it was like,
Starting point is 00:39:51 it's my whole life. Now that I know, right? Now that I'm playing it, it's like, I kind of long to be like, oh man, I wish I was this into it when that was happening, right? Because it is like, Jen and I definitely have done the thing of like we walk up to a gym, let's, can we do it? Or a raid, can we do it? And it's like, ah man, it's five of the mad, mad face.
Starting point is 00:40:07 and there's just two of us. There's no way. We're not going to be able to do this. And so like to, you know, having those original days where everyone was there. It was like, that would have been cool. It turns out that community day is that.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Community Day is that just distilled down because the park was crawling with people. And like, yeah, we went and did a raid. It was the first time I went and did a raid and it was a full, like in a second, it was 20 people that were all set to go and play and fuck crush it. And then just wandering around in general,
Starting point is 00:40:30 everyone was out there. People are dressed, they're cosplaying in the park. They're doing all the thing. And I was like, so what Pokemon are you going to cosplay us? that's a great question I think I'm gonna probably
Starting point is 00:40:38 cosplay as a trainer I don't want to be one of these slaves I have alright and these monsters I get that I put in a cockfights all right I grab these guys
Starting point is 00:40:46 and make them fight to the death you know that's that's that their job do they pass out dude no no no not my guys you know what I mean I have my own narrative for what's happening
Starting point is 00:40:53 of these guys I'm not using Revive it's straight to the sausage factory with you give me my piece of candy but yeah it was awesome and it was incredible I was really really blown away
Starting point is 00:41:04 it gets me excited for Pats I want to do as some as organized as it can be as my schedule still coming together with a million different panels but like hey let's do it. Yeah, we've been talking about doing a crossover event because Joey and I were chatting about doing a Wizards Unite crawl during packs as well and because they're built on the same system. Yeah. It'd be really easy to get like a Wizards Unite cross Pokemon Go group together. Yeah, do like a West Side Story reverse pub crawl where you guys meet in the middle and you kind of fight, give each other shit. Throw a phone at each other. Does anybody have a charger? But literally, like, all the stops are identical because it's built by the same company. Oh, is every, every Pokey Stop? Yeah, they're both Niantic games. Yeah, it's all built on Ingress.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I haven't seen anything about it. But I was trying to find the video I did for Gamer Next Door Weekly when I did a video in the Pokemon crawl. The Pococcal that happened here in San Francisco right at launch. It was like April 2016, and the starting point was in Dolores Park. And there was like 5,000. thousand people who showed up for this bar crawl. And it was just wild. And so we did a video across the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And people would like splinter off with their groups. And you get like these grumpy regulars at these local bars that are like, we don't want no fucking Pikachu's in here. Because there were so many people in cosplay. And it was such a surreal experience. And it went super late into the night. But because it's a victim of, you know, digital deletion. Because when Playboy shut their editorial division,
Starting point is 00:42:33 and they deleted all of the editorial content off the internet. Jerks. Just like all my clever games videos are poof, gone off the internet. Just like when Kevin gets mad at us, he's going to delete all the videos. I'm kind of funny. Make backups, you guys. I'm that archives are for... It's been really cool.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Like, you know what I mean? For just in general, this Pokemon stuff and playing it and actually being like, you know, over the weekend we were playing. And it was just that thing of like, let's go see a movie. All right? Do you want to just walk there? We walked from our house to the Alamo, right? And it's like, that's a walk.
Starting point is 00:43:02 That's a hike. It's like a 40 minute walk. I know. Yeah, I know. And then when you're stopping to get Pokemon, chalk it more up to like an hour.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And there's a lot of elevation changes in there and all of it. But it's like, it's just such a goofy, dumb thing that I think is like actually getting me out in exercising, which is always trouble right. And that's why we're doing it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And like, that's one of the reasons we're doing it every morning, I think is in general, Jen, she already was doing this. And I was like, shoot me in the face before I just walk around for no reason. Was it like porty socks?
Starting point is 00:43:29 How many times? Oh, man, another tree. Like, I've seen the fucking trees. Oh, the ducks are still here. Fucking ducks.
Starting point is 00:43:35 No, exactly. I'll tell you what. I never thought Greg Miller would be stoked about pidgeies. Oh, I'm not. Well,
Starting point is 00:43:40 it's, here's the struggle I have is that you got those misdrevis, right? And let me tell you, they fucking live in Golden Gate Park. That's just their hive.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And they're my bros. But I only have so many Pokemon space. So I got to lead them once in a while. It sucks. Because I have an army. Don't you use them
Starting point is 00:43:54 to power level other other Pokemon though? Yeah, the same type. Yeah. So you make them into candy. But then there's the one time where I like literally I rolled into a thing I rolled into a battle and it was like oh.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You got into it, Pokemon Go? No, no, no, no. I was really into it. He's talking about candy and you're like, I don't know what the head. I'm laughing because you kill the Pokemon. Like you send it off. You send it away and you get candy back. And then you feed it to their brother.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Like we all know what's happening there. Yeah. It makes things stronger. They're killing them. No, I loved when it first came out, I was obsessed and my friends we'd all, we would go to brunch and we would do stuff. Santa Monica Pier. Oh, great place to catch Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I saw the first weekend, somebody just shouted squirtle and a, like, people got like trample. It was insane. But at least the places down there, the restaurants were like 5% off if you show us, if you come to play Pokemon Go and you show like your waiter and stuff. Like at least where I was, all the establishments there embraced it.
Starting point is 00:44:44 It was definitely a mix here. Like there was the ones that are like this is going to be great for our business. But then the place Dirty Nellies he was talking about is this like shitty Irish bar. Yeah. And they wanted no part of it. Yeah. And San Francisco like there's a lot of attitude at some the more established places.
Starting point is 00:45:01 By established, I mean old. Yeah, exactly. But then all the new like hip plays and they're all like, yeah. Yeah, it's horrible. They're like, bring your shirt up money to our Pocostop. We used to do like,
Starting point is 00:45:10 just walks at night all around our town and you'd see like groups of kids all hang out, like everybody. Also like parents were playing with their kids. It was like a great. When at first time it was beautiful. Dude, and you're making me nostalgic for it. In Community Day was that on such,
Starting point is 00:45:23 again, it's just distilling it down, putting everybody in one spot. But it was the exact same thing of, you know, like, grandparent level old people walking around playing it, right? Dad's in their daughter, us, you know, super young kids, parents who didn't give a shit with super young kids that were playing it. And it was just like, it's just so fucking crazy and awesome. And they, again, as, again, how this all started talking about how they continue to add to
Starting point is 00:45:46 the game. Like, they put in Team Rocket this week, right? And like, they did it for one day and it went away. And now it's back today. And it's like now adding in PVE battles, which I like. I like, you know, challenging, even generally. just for like our alter friendship levels. I'm like, this sucks.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I hate this fight. But when it's like I'm fighting a computer to get the, these Pokemon that have been poisoned, not poison, but like they have a shadow on them and I got to purify them. Like, yeah, fuck yeah. And now I'm down to one more, so I got to look for a Pogo stop out there right now. It's haunted or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I got to get these Team Rocket motherfuckers. This is this thing that kind of makes me a little bit sad for Wizards Unite is that Niantic took like all of their learnings from Pokemon Go and went into Wizard Unite with it. but the core gameplay is so much more difficult to do while you're walking than Pokemon Go is that I think that's the big hindrance for me. So I was in Santa Monica last week to play a game that I can talk about next week. And we were walking along kind of near where the pier is too long Ocean Avenue.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And there's a ton of stops there. And because it was a full moon, there were were were were were wolves out. And that was like a really cool. In real life. It was a cool in-game event Because in the Harry Potter universe There's werewolves and blah blah, blah, right? And so I was trying to catch one of these werewolves
Starting point is 00:47:03 But in order for me to get the spell cast the right way I would have to stop and hold the phone with my hand And then draw it as accurately as I could Because with Pokemon Go you can just flick the polka ball With your thumb while you're holding it with one hand And so you can like have a coffee in your other hand Or hold your dog leash or do whatever. whatever else you want with your other hand, use your imagination.
Starting point is 00:47:26 But like... It's a full moon. You can't really do that with Wizard's United, particularly somebody like me who has, you know, tiny lady hands. And I have a giant phone. Like I can't do most of the spells with a single swipe of my thumb. And that little piece is such a big deal with how repetitive the gameplay is in both of those games. But you don't feel the repetitiveness in Pokemon Go.
Starting point is 00:47:53 the same way because it feels like it's rewarding every time. Whereas I feel like I fail the spells and Wizards Unite a lot. Even if I make a great or a magnificent spell, the items still get away a fair amount of times. And I didn't feel that way with Pokemon Go. I felt like, yeah, there were sometimes, right, where they break out of the polka ball. You need a stronger wall or whatever
Starting point is 00:48:15 where you have to use the special items. But it still felt more rewarding than Wizards Unite does. And that's why I think I'm having such a hard time staying connected. I'm committed. Where are you right now with Wizards United? Because all you talk about is this goddamn Lego Tower. It's all I see Joey talking about it. Lego Tower is my bay right now.
Starting point is 00:48:32 So I haven't really picked it up because in my neighborhood, unlike in, with Pokemon Go, at least I could catch Pidgey's another random Pokemon, like around my house. There's nothing around my house in the Wizard Unite app. I have to go to where the gym is, where the Pokemon Gym is,
Starting point is 00:48:49 to get anything to appear. And it's super frustrating. And so when I'm home, like, I never play. Because I'm not going to, like, go walk out by myself and play. I mean, I could, but I don't because I would rather stay home. You got Lego Tower to play. Exactly. I got updates on Lego Tower.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I got levels of suck. So I've, oh, God. Joey, yes, Joey on the shock mic. So I'm super excited that I finally, like, I'm starting to like finesse my Lego Tower and really kind of min-maxing my abilities. So I admittedly have spent about. $15 to $18 of my money. Before you tell me what that did for you,
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Starting point is 00:52:32 Good zeros. That's zebbit.com slash kinda for up to $2,500 of interest-free credit. Zebitt.com slash kinda. Cool. Now what's up? So originally when I first got this game, the team from Nimble Bit and their PR team sent me $5 worth of in-game currency.
Starting point is 00:52:54 So as a disclaimer, they started me off with $5. Money, hats. They got to give me a little taste. Exactly. Which is still like a fraction of the value of the codes we get on a regular basis. But just for, you know, just for clarity, I got five bucks from them. And I was talking, and I go into length with this with Stimer on what's good tomorrow, if you guys want to hear like a real, like, knock down, drag out about Lego Tower.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And I just am having a lot of fun with it because I really like how they've incorporated this multiplayer element. in a much better way that they have in their previous tower games. Have you played Tiny Tower or Tiny Death Star or Tiny Vegas? Are you familiar with Tiny Tower as a mobile game? I'm not big in the mobile games. Okay. That's fine. It's my lot in the kind of funer to play the mobile games.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I know. I know. I know. I know. It's great. And so I like that they've really encouraged you to make friends and it works beneficially for everybody because when you're building your tower, the idea is that you have these individuals.
Starting point is 00:53:54 levels. Like you can see my tower here that I have these levels and then each level has workers and then each level has workers that have a specialty. So if I have a Lego store, for example, I'm going to have a mini fig that moves into one of my apartments that their dream job is to work in the Lego store. And so your goal is to like stock all of your stores with people's whose dream job is to work there. So you gave us the pitch on this a couple weeks ago. I might have been last week. Time flies. Yeah. The point I was just. I was just a lot of the time flies. Yeah. The point I was trying to make. I don't mean to be repetitive. I apologize. Was that it's really difficult to find
Starting point is 00:54:30 the mini figs with the dream jobs for the towers for the levels that you have. Enter the friend system. Joey Noel. So Joey and I are friends in Lego Tower. A lot of friends. I know. If I need to tweet it on my car, yeah. And so if you have an abundance, maybe you have five people that all want to work at the ninja training level. Who wanted? But like, there can only be
Starting point is 00:54:50 three. There's only spots for three. So now you've got two extras that are like, well, I don't want to go work in the mailroom. I don't want to go work at the cafe. Sometimes the life is like that, though. And so there are people whose dream job is to work in the mailroom. I've got three of them. But that, and then Joey's like, I don't have anybody who wants to work in this.
Starting point is 00:55:10 My mailroom is sad and empty. And then I can go, hey, Joey, let me send you this worker who's dying to work in your mailroom. And then not only does it help me that I get to place my minifig in a great home, but then she gets to have a mini fig that pays triple rent. Yeah. Oh, wow. Triple. When they're in their dream job, they pay triple rent.
Starting point is 00:55:28 You guys are Lego Slumlords. Yeah. I can't believe it. Oh, trust me. We're evicted mini-figs left and right. Oh, yeah. If I have doubles, I just evicted him if nobody else in my friend. Oh, my God, ruthless.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Joey, how your mobile game journey's been going? It's been really fun. I've been still playing Harry Potter. I do agree with what Andrea says about. I feel like I was maybe going to lunch with the two of you, and I was like way behind you because I kept stopping. No, we walked to 7-11. I've done that too. Okay, yeah, was you mean Kevin, we were walking to 7-Eleven.
Starting point is 00:55:57 For the record, one of the days after games daily, I was reading the subs and I was giving them an update on you outside. Because I saw you leave your car and then stop and then walk of it and then stop. That was me. I've been playing a lot of Lego Tower. I feel like the timers on these are really well done compared. There's things that you can actively do while you have timers running in the background that make it more interactive than say like pocket camp. where it's like I only logged in once every three hours to like harvest all my stuff and fulfill
Starting point is 00:56:24 requests because you couldn't really do anything else other than that. So I really like that about Lego Tower. And then I started playing the Tower to Fence game that Tim was talking about. Kingdom Rush. Revengeance, baby. It's really fun.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I beat it. I don't know if you heard that. No, that's awesome. It's really good. I really like it. It requires way more attention than I'm used to a mobile game requiring. So I can't really like multitask.
Starting point is 00:56:47 No, you can't multitask. It's a real game. Yeah. Totally. which is, but that's not what I use my phone for. I use it for like the bullshit. Like, oh, I need to think you're doing the Bachelor Rite, essentially. How much money do you think you put into Lego Tower?
Starting point is 00:56:58 I think I've put like between 12 and 15 bucks in there. All right. Nothing. What about Harry Potter? That's probably somewhere similar, maybe a little more. It's not like four at night levels yet. Yeah. Well, I just, when I was running my own math here,
Starting point is 00:57:10 so far the millers have put $53 into Pokemon. That's not bad. No. I put $40 into Pokemon Go. That's the tip of it. This is the beginning. I was reading a reset era thread today of somebody that, and I didn't read into it, this was just the headline of the thread.
Starting point is 00:57:26 But it was like, after spending $15,000, I think I finally done everything I can do in Fire Enblem Heroes. And it was like... The Horny Casino will get you. That's what Alexa Wright called Fire Enblem Heroes. Yeah, the horny casino. Why is the horny casino? Because you can spend a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:57:41 She spent over $100, I think, in Fire Enblem Heroes. I have to double check what her current figure is. But like $15,000. And again, you're enjoying it. But man, that GTA on like casino, you guys. Anyway, we're not going there. Yeah, it's a lot of money, man. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:58:02 But if you have to... Joe, can I'm a reward? Because that's the big thing that you spend money there is like the random role to get the characters you want, right? I'm trying to figure this out. Get to the bottom of it. See, that's the next spend for me in Pokemon, on is that a week from Saturday is the next community day, the August community day, and incubators
Starting point is 00:58:23 are going three times as fast. I was like, come on, buy some more incubators, put them in there, you know what I mean? Yeah. Maximize my time, Davis. Don't you, don't you walk to Hatcham? Yeah, but you have to buy the incubators, right? You have one incubator for free, and you can get them from Quest and stuff too. You can only do one egg at time. Right, with the, with the, the, and the incubator you have as slow as hell to. Okay. So you put it in there. So basically, you're 100%. To hash the egg, it has to be in an incubator, and then I have to walk it while it's in the incubator. The egg's just being loose. I just have a bunch of eggs.
Starting point is 00:58:53 When you buy new incubators, are those like one use? They're like temporary use. Most of them are three, I believe. Okay. So you get three uses out of them. Kind of like a wine barrel. Does anybody use? I quit right after, but I got the,
Starting point is 00:59:05 do you guys remember the Pokemon Go Plus, like a little wristband? Yeah, yeah. I've seen them once in a long. Do people use those anymore? Are those? I see them at shows. Like when we go to like PACs, like, when we go to like PACs or their bags or their wrists or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:15 So why are you not? partaking. I think that's a bridge too far from me personally. Really? Yeah. Fanny packs fine. I look great in all the fanny packs. No, you don't. Kevin. Kevin. No one's been nice enough to tell you that. Kevin. Pordy looks great in the fanny pack.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Thank you. Fanny packs are coming back this year. So I got Barrett here to bring us back on track just a little bit. Sorry, we're talking about games on the game show. Fuck us, I guess. We're not going to talk about Dr. Mario. Do you have anything like I feel like you're the only one? If you want me to rant about how mad I am about the microgenrexactions and Dr. Mario. Just be better at the game. Andrea.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I've been playing for an hour and 19 minutes right now. Still got plenty of lives. Still got plenty of lives. Also, do you ever check your mail? Because I keep getting 10 lives. No, in the game. I haven't opened it up. What's the last time you've checked your mailbox, Andrew, every day?
Starting point is 01:00:05 I'm having actual fun playing Lego Tower. Oh, I'm having a great time too. Good. Well, good, everybody's happy. I'm glad we're all so happy. Glad I was able to bring the show on track. Barrett. What are you, Blaine, Barrett.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I know, so Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. Last week, Greg gave his kind of giant review impression stuff. You were now addicted and hooked. Last night, you guys went out and either drank or played the game or both. I'm not really sure where it all fell. Yeah. Both at the same time. Then we went home and watched my heroes.
Starting point is 01:00:33 What are you talking to me? I really love it. It brings me back to the Ultimate Alliance 2 era of it's exactly what you remember it being. And now there's more character. Like there's different characters for for them to build off of the story is Cooky and weird and it's just something that exists to get you through the Marvel universe Yeah, without spoiling anything does it deliver on like the moments that you kind of wanted of like the like the like get hype like some random person pop it up? You're like this is gonna be really really I haven't felt that yet which is like why I haven't beat it yet. No, I haven't beat it yet Um I like we just did the X-Men level yesterday. So like how far would you say I am? Oh what that's world your chapter?
Starting point is 01:01:14 four, right? So in that, there's 10 chapters. Okay. So I'm about halfway through, but yeah, there's, there's been nothing that's like blown my mind yet, but I do hear after chapter seven or whatever. There's like some like, kind of weird stuff. I don't know how much you've looked at. You've seen the character review, right? You've seen it. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:01:30 For me, when I was playing it blind for review, it was way easier to have those moments. I was like, oh, fuck. I had to direct the party mode where you all played, so I saw the character select. I was like, ah, it's pretty much, I feel like all that I can really get spoiled for me for the game, But yeah, it's a good old fun time playing the superheroes.
Starting point is 01:01:51 And it was one of those games that I was telling Alyssa. I was like, hey, I think you'd be really into this. She's like, ah, like, it's going to be too many buttons to remember. I'm like, no, really, there is not. There is. That is not going to be this game. It's good problem. Does this game do anything for you?
Starting point is 01:02:03 I played it at E3. Because I played the other ones back in college when they were out. It was like, I was like, oh, okay. It kind of feels like too similar to those. But then I found out that there. In single player, you get like a different camera angle. I was looking at, footage of that, and I was like, this might be a little more, I love Ninja Theory and, or team, who made it?
Starting point is 01:02:24 Team Ninja. Team Ninja. And I was like, maybe. This is on my, I think once, if it goes on a sale at any point, I'll snag it. Gotcha. Well, Nintendo produced it, so. Never. Never gone sale.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Well, you can maybe get it, like, used it, like a GameStop or something. Save up your coins. I'm all this generation on this. Oh, okay. Okay. There's little cartridges that I lose him all the time. But yeah, there are great moments. Like I unlocked Deadpool last night and he like immediately when I started playing at
Starting point is 01:02:51 Sam it was like, oh, this is. Spoilers. Exactly. I mean, he was a big marketing. Fuck it with you, parents. Shut up. I'm totally lost my thought. You're talking about Deadpool.
Starting point is 01:03:04 You unlocked Deadpool. The reveal of Deadpool. He feels like exactly how he did in like the second one. And it brought me back and it was in a good way. So, yeah, there's definitely. that feel of like, oh, these are definitely the same exact games from 10 or so years ago. But, yeah, there's like little improvements here and there that, like, make you feel like, oh, like, I will give this a shot.
Starting point is 01:03:24 So, yeah, I'm loving it. You've been playing anything else? While you think of that, I have a question about Ultimate Alliance. If you're not super into the comic book aspect of the Marvel universe, maybe you're more of an MCU fan and you don't really know, like, the history of these characters and where they come from, Do you think people will still be able to have fun with this game and get most of the references? Obviously, there's, like, lots of nuggets for, like, the hardcore fans, the true believers, as Bill says. But, like, will you feel lost if you're not?
Starting point is 01:03:58 No, I don't think so, especially because the setup for this story is very much the Infinity saga or whatever. And then, like, there's maybe two or three characters that I've seen so far that aren't in the MCU. And it's like, they give a pretty good description of just who they are. are generally as a character every time like they they pop up for the first time. So I feel like if you're only an MCU person, you're going to understand 90% of the story and characters in this game. Okay. I think it's a good like jumping on.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Yeah. Yeah. How's your Zelda play through going? Because for people that don't know, what are you doing? I'm a broken human being and I got obsessed with an idea, let's see, two months ago of making myself play through nine different Zelda games in timeline order and playing them one a month.
Starting point is 01:04:48 So so far I've played Skyward Sword and Ocreen of Time. And that was just an emotional journey of going to Skyward Sword, the biggest fuckery in the Zelda history of games, and I still can't believe that
Starting point is 01:05:04 people gave that game a fucking 10 at the time. That was one of the, to give a story, that was one of the first games I ever looked up reviews for because I played an hour of it and I was like I this is bad right like I got to see what other people think about this and everybody was given attention to it I was like am I the dumb one no yeah and it was nice to go back and actually like play through the entirety of it because I gave up like I think five hours in when it originally came out and it was it was nice to like actually
Starting point is 01:05:34 go through the entirety and be like okay like I appreciate specific aspects of this game but overall yeah that game's still bad And then, Aquarian of Time, great. It's a great game. I can't really say much more about O'Coreen of Time. It's dope.
Starting point is 01:05:48 So, yeah, the next game on my list, I'm doing the fallen hero timeline, which is if Link dies in the end of O'Coreen of Time. So the next game is Link to the Pass, which I'm very excited for. Question, I was thinking about going back and finishing O'Carrine of Time
Starting point is 01:06:05 because I never finished that one. And how long did your play-through take you? 15 to 20 hours maybe oh that's definitely manageable oh yeah yeah skyward sword was like a grueling 45 hours and I was definitely like at the end of that game I was like I don't know if I should go through with playing the rest of the series but yeah okay playing ocarina right after it felt like oh not every game is going to be that sluggish and yeah I remember our trip to our flight to RTF I was able to get through like the first two dungeons in like an hour and a half to two hours. Do you think that was muscle memory though?
Starting point is 01:06:44 I did, to be fair, I did play Ocaryana of Time again earlier this year. So you like knew where a lot of the puzzles were and like some of the boss strategies and stuff like that. But I feel like even playing it today and knowing like the design of a lot of modern games going back to Ocaryana of Time is pretty simple. Intuitive? Yeah, and it's straightforward. And that's where, you know, a lot of, I think it's the fault of Ocaryana of time of why we got Skyward sort of how linear Zelda games like really became in the dungeon design. But yeah, going back to it now, it's like it is way more intuitive than playing it back in the 90s as a dumb kid and being like, I don't know how to push this block over here. You just, you just hold A and move it.
Starting point is 01:07:30 That's all you do. You fucking idiot. Kids are dumb. then the 3DS port's great It's awesome I honestly think it's the only way to play the game now I haven't charged up my 3DS in like a year Just like just in the drawer
Starting point is 01:07:45 You're living your best life Andrew I got Switch now I got in the mood to replay it earlier this year Even outside of the whole Zelda playthrough Because at the beginning of the year Tim was the one who showed us the why Ocourine of Time is the saddest Zelda game
Starting point is 01:08:01 and yeah I got like a 2DS XL and that thing is awesome it's just basically a 3DS but without the 3D in it because the regular 2DS is oh my god the most awkward thing The door stop you're talking about right? Yeah but the 2DS Excel I forgot that that actually folds Yeah yeah it folds and it's like I think it was like 150 maybe 200 So it's essentially the 3Ds Excel without the 3D? Yep It's like the switchlight God it's been a long time since I talked about that skew of that skew of
Starting point is 01:08:31 hardware. Yeah, yeah. I just bought a Majora's mask for it as well. I'm excited to get to that eventually. I'm playing through that right now. Oh yeah? How you like? My 3DS is like in my bag. Nice. In the other room. I had never beaten Majora's mask. I had tried it a lot and this time I was like I'm going to beat it. I didn't but I've come to like more the always going clock. Oh yeah. Because I had like you know a lot of anxiety over stuff. It gives me anxiety. I can't play Majora's mask. And I've now learned that it's not that hard. What what pisses me off, I wish that when you went to temples, it would stop the timer because I don't want to rewind the time when I'm going through, like they give you plenty of ways to jump back to where you were, like a little
Starting point is 01:09:10 progress. But just something about it story-wise, if I have to reset the timeline, it's like I didn't have all those interactions. And so it feels like cheap. It's like, well, I was helping this princess, but then I had to rewind time so I could beat the temple. But she doesn't remember me because it's like I didn't even do those things. but that I
Starting point is 01:09:29 I liked for like how it fits in the story because Majora's Mask I would say is like just the story that's set up is the most tragic out of all of them and yeah until about the wild too baby
Starting point is 01:09:42 let's get dark it's good it's about time it's time for them to get a little gritty that's dope let's get back to the Majora's mask and Twilight Princess like kind of vibes
Starting point is 01:09:53 I'm into it let's go did you think Majoros mask was dark though links awake and was really sad What's it? George's Matt. I mean, like, I'm talking about, like, really dark.
Starting point is 01:10:02 For the time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Even going back to, like, the, like, little side missions and stuff and, like, talking to, like, a bunch of people. Like, there's a lot of, like, weird, creepy and sad, like, little stories throughout that game that kind of get, like, overlooks because you're trying to play through all the dungeons and whatnot. Maybe it's just the art style of that game that does not make it feel gritty or dark enough for me. Because it just feels so cartoony that I can't, like, I can't actually believe. it to be as sad and as dark as they're trying to make it off to be, which is what I think is
Starting point is 01:10:31 exciting about what they could potentially do with Breath of the Wild too. Because I think what they did with Breath of the Wild was so innovative for the franchise, even though it still obviously has that very animated look to it, but it's different than what we've seen in previous elders. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I do agree with you. The ending of Link's Awakening is really really sad. Yeah. I can't wait for Link's Awakening. First time playing it. Very stoked. I love it when it works out. Nobody can tell. It just looks like drop.
Starting point is 01:11:00 It's a perfect way to end it. Davis, thank you for joining us. Where can people find you? The Warpstone on YouTube and Facebook and patreon.com slash the Warpstone. There you go. You guys, they make amazing videos.
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