Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast - WWE 2K24 Review - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

Greg Miller and Roger Pokorny give their thoughts on the latest WWE game. Run of Show - - Start - Housekeeping - WWE 2K24 Review - Breaking Down the Modes - My Faction & Faction Wars - How... Much More Will We Play? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 What's up and welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast. Of course, I am Tim Geddes. And today I am joined by The Lock, Roger Percorney. Yeet. And the Big Daddy himself, Greg Miller. Yee. I like the energy going on right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:25 You guys just played four hours. Four hours on stream. 2K 24 on stream. And now we're going to give our reviews. Is this a great? Let's start this at the top here. Is this a full review? Is this just impression so far?
Starting point is 00:00:38 Where are you at with it? This is 30 hours into the game. Okay, okay. So I would say it's a full enough review to be as far as I'm concerned for it, Timothy. That's very excited. We'll get into the details in just a second because of course this is the kind of funny games cast where each and every week we get together to talk about video games and all the things that we love about them. If you like what we do, you should consider getting the kind of funny membership. That gets you the shows ad free.
Starting point is 00:01:01 You get to watch them live as we record them and you get a daily exclusive show. It's a little ditty we like to call Greg way. We're each and every day. Greg talks about something for as long as he wants to talk about it. Today had a very basic question that I somehow did 23 minutes on. So it's a daily podcast at this point. What was the question? You want to tease it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:21 That was a lot of content ago for me. That was a long time. I could open headlines. It was a simple question about how do you deal with content that disappoints you? It was off the heels of Aquaman, which of course brings up DCEU, which of course smacks of We're about to get a Ghostbusters, motion pictures. Greg, how do you deal with content that disappoints you? Content you consume.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Correct. Gotcha. Oh, come on now. 17 years, do you think I've ever made disappointing content? Never, never. You know who doesn't disappoint me, Greg? Our Patreon producers. Carl Jacobs, Kieran Hovesapien, first time I read and reading that one.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Thank you for joining us. And Delaney Twining, you were all the absolute best. And of course, that means they get the shows ad-free and all the good stuff, too. But if you don't have a buck to toss our way, we totally understand. that's totally cool. Your support goes such a long way even for free, whether you're watching on YouTube, watching us do live things on Twitch or listening on
Starting point is 00:02:13 podcast services around the globe. We appreciate you all so very, very much. But now, let's properly get right into it. WW.E.2K.24. This is the review from Kind of Funny. Greg, I imagine you are the lead reviewer on this, correct? Correct, Timothy, and that would come with
Starting point is 00:02:30 many notable exceptions and disclosures, I would think. be out of way, my friend. Hello, everyone. It's me, Greg Miller. Perhaps this is your first time ever coming to Kind of Funny because you clicked on this review and you said, hmm, a review two days after embargo.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I need to hear about that. It's worth giving you disclosure, of course, that the kind of funny ethics policy is that we'll always tell you when something's up. And so I'd like to start in the pro category of, you know, I've played wrestling video games my entire life. They're probably the things. They're intrinsically tied to my love of video games. When I got hired at IGN, it was in part to take over wrestling coverage there
Starting point is 00:03:04 for WW games, of which I reviewed many, many, many, many, many wrestling games for many, many, many years. However, since then, and since coming to kind of funny, many things have happened, including I hosted WWE show for WWE on Peacock. This is awesome. I hope you check it out. Of course, I was in the game last year as a manager card that was added after the fact to my faction.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And, of course, I still do a whole much different WWE stuff. I did for year two in a row, the ratings reveal for WW2K, the game. Royal Rumble and then of course WW2K24 did in fact or is in fact sponsoring our screencast show WrestleMania ranked so I want all of that on the table so that if you watch this review and walked away
Starting point is 00:03:46 and then found that out you'd be like oh my god this guy's a fucking show for a WW or whatever I'm not I want you to know that so as we get into this you have the full picture of it again just played wrestling games my entire life it wouldn't make sense I don't think for anybody else to be lead reviewer on this just because I'm the one who cares the most about it and we'll play this
Starting point is 00:04:02 for the next 60 hours or whatever of game time. So with that said, you're playing for 60 hours more. You've already played for 30 hours. I'll be playing a lot longer than 60 hours. Yeah. I just ballparked it.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah. They've done a very, very good job this year. Again, what I'm fascinated about this is actually going to be Rogers take. Roger, of course, is the new wrestling family.
Starting point is 00:04:20 In the, yeah. In the past few months, Rogers's fallen into it, gone to raw with us. This is your first wrestling game and forever, yada, yada,
Starting point is 00:04:26 yada. And so even on stream, you and me playing, you mentioned, you know, like, what fresh eyes on this are going to look like versus somebody who,
Starting point is 00:04:34 has played these games every year when they do come out, right? For Jesus, I mean, I've consumed wrestling games on an annual basis since probably Warzone on PlayStation 1. And I mean, if I go further back than that, of course, there's me on boxing Royal Rumble on Genesis and Raw on Genesis, but those cadence, if there was a wrestling game. Thank you. Oh, goody.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, yeah, there you have somebody who's been in the shit forever, and somebody who's brand new to it. For my money, Tim, they have crushed it this year. Really? Yeah, this is a four out of five. Okay. On a kind of funny scale, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It'd be short of amazing at the five out of five. It's better than okay. For me, it's funny to talk about it, because when I talk about it, what stands out and why I celebrate it is the minutia, the little things, the stuff they've gotten right. You and me, Tim, when we have a second,
Starting point is 00:05:29 not to talk about the business, we'll inevitably talk about wrestling and inevitably go, this is the best time. This is, oh my God, it's so good right now. The game is reflecting that.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Awesome. In amazing, small, nuanced ways where, you know, like, for me, it is,
Starting point is 00:05:43 you know, Cody's entrance, Seth's entrance, the crowd singing along. You know, Jay getting there and doing this, and the crowd doing it.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Being Roman in a match and beating the shit out of Cody Rhodes, and then everyone in the crowd starts putting up the one behind me. NXT. Chanting, welcome back, Becky,
Starting point is 00:06:00 which I haven't seen, but I saw today on my Twitter feed from someone else. I haven't experienced it. Beyond that, beyond, it would be going into the modes, and I will at length in this review, go in and talk about the things they have tweaked and improved and made better and the feedback they've listened to. You know what I mean? For a lot of people like me that love my faction, last year there was the idea that like, man, my faction is getting cards for characters that are then giving you basically an alternate attire that you don't have in the real game, that's stupid as hell. 2K
Starting point is 00:06:32 has agreed with you and now you get persona cards that when you unlock in my faction, do give you that outfit a choice in the actual game and stuff like that. Like there's a lot of quality of life improvements there. I think you could get into even more of them and I don't know where we want to go and how far you want to go, but like
Starting point is 00:06:47 you know, having a manager at ringside now matters. That manager when your heel gets up, takes off the turnbuckle cover, throws a weapon in. Even if that's just to distract the referee so you can do something underhanded and get in, you can do it. Of course, you know, some of the paybacks that you're able to assemble there, right? I think the ones we're all used to are, you know, resiliency and being able to kick out.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Now the referees turned his back or her back to put the, and the referees actually are real people this time around, have turned their back from, you know, the WW programming to put the turnbuckle on. That's when you can poison mist. That's when you can throw a fireball in somebody's face to blind them and then have have the ash on their face, right? Like, they're doing all the shit and then weaving it into the story to make it make sense. I think it's impossible to talk about how good the game is
Starting point is 00:07:31 without talking about how it faltered with 20, right? And how bad that game was, taking the year off and coming back. And the story for my reviews with 2K, 22, 23, and now 24, but those two before, right, what are the idea of like, man, the base is so good. They've been doing so much right. The gameplay is so right.
Starting point is 00:07:50 To the point that in the past year, I've put up a special presentation era kind of funny games that was, it's time for WW2K to become a live service so that I don't lose all my wrestlers, I don't lose all my arenas on a year-to-year basis because the core gameplay is so good. They haven't done that,
Starting point is 00:08:05 but this is yet another example of what I'm talking about, where it's like, we've got it so down on the gameplay front that now we can go in and make it so, all right, cool, during the tag match, hold out one and hit left or right on the D-pad, and that'll send your opponent out to go to the other side to fight the other guy off the apron, right?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Okay, we know people hate tag matches, just because it's the fucking nonstop annoyance of somebody coming in, each participant can only come in to break up a pin once. And once they do, they can't just get in anymore to screw it over, right?
Starting point is 00:08:34 Which, on the one hand, is immersion breaking, but on the other hand is way better than, it's the 17th time I've done my finisher. I run to the ropes, try to knock the person down and pin them, right? Like, there are those levels of additive things
Starting point is 00:08:46 that are tightening the screws on making this feel like the product you are watching that is emulating exactly what it is. I think what, what holds it back from being that five out of five amazing is that there are moments and features and things that I'm like, oh, that's really cool. It doesn't push the amazing because you are
Starting point is 00:09:04 constantly pushing up against a game that is on a nine month development cycle where it is like, all right, cool, Samantha's there giving you the ring intros, right, for the titles. And what do they do? Always shoot her from behind. Always shoot her on the side. Never show her mouth. We don't have to animate her lips, right? We can't do that. You know what I mean? It is the, you know, normal little glitches you'll have there or you throw somebody to this thing. And it's like, well, I'm throwing you to the ambulance, but you're not like running into it. You're just there. Like, it's the traditional things we all know from a wrestling game. But I think those little things are way overshadowed by the quality of life improvements, how much fun a special guest referee matches,
Starting point is 00:09:38 how much fun an ambulance matches, casket match. I'm sure interchangeable for everybody how much fun any of it is. But like, they've added these three gimmick matches. They're all great. They've improved my faction. I think the storyline stuff is great. If you were a fan of the showcase, it's still there and it's still showcase. For me, as we can get into a whole thing about showcase when we talk a little bit more con about it, it's as always cool. I think it could be a lot cooler and it's not the thing, but it's a nice walk down memory lane. I think the fact that they really committed this time around, I feel, to this game is part of the road to WrestleMania. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Where when you do showcase and it ends, Corey is talking about Philadelphia and he's showing you the bell and the low. And it's like, man, this feels like you're on. Everything is lining up that this game feels like it's part of the storyline and creative stuff. that's happening right. Cool. Yeah. Now, Roger. Yeah. I'm really excited to hear what you think. Like Greg was saying, you are new to this world. Do you want to let people know how new you are your history with wrestling as a whole? Yeah, my history with wrestling is pretty fresh. Well, when I was younger, I watched a little bit of Smackdown and Raw here and there. I would catch a match here and there. I was never like the wrestling guy in my friend group at all.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It was just a pop in. Oh, cool. That's a cool thing to watch on a Friday night, right? And I had a few of the wrestling games, right? I had some of the Smackdown versus Raw games. I play them with some friends, but it was never like my favorite go-to game. I remember picking up, I think it was one of the early, like Xbox 360, I don't know, were they still, were they 2Ks at that point? Or were they? Early 360, they would have been THQ. Yeah, THQ.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So I picked up one of those and I was like, it's not what I'm looking for, just never really grabbed me. But recently during Royal Rumble, I put it on with a group of my high school friends when I was in New York. And it just captured me. It was just such a fun time to see just what WWE is. right now and how it is the literal perfect time for a newcomer to jump in to this franchise in this universe. So when, of course, W.W. 2K24 popped up in the Trello for Games Codes, it's like, I got to try this out. I got to see if this can be a great extension for what I'm watching every week now, twice a week. And I would say it's a good extension. I would say this is
Starting point is 00:11:46 an okay game, at least from my money, right? Because I am not you, Greg, where I don't see like the minutia and all the things that they're changing. I just see the package, right? And the package for me is a great time to play, right? When I'm playing it in the living, in the living room, in the office here, and we're playing it together, and everyone's stopping and watching us play, and that never happens.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Like, that never happens in kind of funny. Usually when someone's reviewing a game, it's just kind of, they're reviewing it, and everyone just kind of tries not to get in front of the screen, but, like, everyone's stopping around with almost like popcorn in their mouth, like watching this experience,
Starting point is 00:12:17 because that's what it feels like. It feels like a WWE match has come to life, and it feels like that to play. Like, playing with my friends, playing with you all day today has been a real treat to actually live that world of like, now I'm Cody Rhodes, now you're Roman rights. Oh, this is exciting.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Like, this is an exciting extension. And I think all of that is good. The core game is really good. My issue is with most of the things around it. Right. It's not even like a massive issue. It's just more of like, it doesn't really speak to me, right? Like the MyGM mode fine. I think I had a better time playing with you, but personally when I was playing it by myself
Starting point is 00:12:48 didn't really capture me. The My Universe stuff was just, WW, is it My Universe or? Universal. just universe in general. Like, that was just like, oh, like, it's pretty simple. Like, I get the idea of you can do whatever you wants, wish fulfillment, but didn't really do anything for me.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And then the showcase mode I was honestly kind of disappointed by it because, like, I was looking forward to learning about this, right? Like, I am somebody who is very green. Like, I don't know anything about the history of WWE stuff. I know some things here and there. So I'm excited to learn about WrestleMania, about the history, and playing it.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It just became a slog. It became a slog of like, now you got to go, do the objective. Okay, now the objective is really annoying. And now you're just not having any, fun. Compare that, compare that to
Starting point is 00:13:26 like the newer MLB storylines that they're doing. I know that the last one had some issues but I know they're fixing that. It just,
Starting point is 00:13:32 it feels like the idea's there but the execution is not there. And you see that nine month development cycle which sucks, but it's also
Starting point is 00:13:39 very impressive, right? Like it's impressive to know just how deep the roster of WWE is and knowing that they had to update all of this in nine months,
Starting point is 00:13:48 right? Like they had to actually add in all these new intros for new people. They had to add in new costume. They had to make it relevant
Starting point is 00:13:53 every single year. And I see that and talking to you and knowing that sure, they added the three match types and they're gimmicky, but like that's cool. Like, it's cool that we're adding to all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:03 So from a new newcomer's perspective, it's a good way to play like with friends and like I would totally recommend it. But I would never, like I don't think that this is like the apex of what they could be doing, right? I do wish this was a live service. I do wish that there was more,
Starting point is 00:14:16 that there's more time they could send with this stuff. That's an excellent transition because what I think is it the apex of what they could be doing? No, they could do more and it would be, you know, of course, what do we run into the problem of everybody, business versus art, right? And how this would actually be.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But what I would say, no, this isn't the apex of what they could do, but this is the apex of what they've done. Like WW2K24, I was thinking about this the other day when I was getting ready for work, right? This is the best wrestling game of all time. Wow. Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:43 that's really impressive. I've gone, and when I got my Steam deck, the first thing I did was load up no mercy, right? Allegedly. And go back and play that, right? And it's like playing that and being put back
Starting point is 00:14:52 into that time, sure, like, you know what I mean? And like, there's a bunch of really cool shit in there. But it is rose tinty glasses for what it was. I think gameplay-wise, like, there's just no question that this is a better game, that this control is better. The thing about it is that I think it retains what No Mercy was great at, right? Of the, hey, easy to pick up, you know, difficult to master kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Because this, you know, you call out people stopping and watching. Like, it's also people stopping to play. And like I told you while we were doing it, right? Like, when we launched the studio, we put, together that video. And what does Andy say? I want to get a big TV that people just sit around and play games. And we've never fucking done it. You know what I mean? Until this. This was the one that it was. I usually drag my console over to the big TV to play. So I have a better experience. But this is a game that you can play multiplayer. And you know, you and me and Mike have sat there
Starting point is 00:15:40 and done it. We've done it on stream. We're going to do it again on stream. I've no doubt we're to play more of this on the road to WrestleMania. And it's that idea of like, you can pop in and have that. What I think's what I think makes, what I think make WW2K24 special in so many ways, right, is the fact that, again, the core gameplay is so good. It's everything I just said. It's easy to jump in. It mimics the product. You can just have those matches and be fine. Where I think, again, to your point, it gets watered down is the idea of, if we remove the gameplay from the conversation and put really what you're doing with it, it really comes down to your favorite Chinese food buffet or any buffet. Where when you're
Starting point is 00:16:17 there and you're at a buffet, it's never the quality of the food. It's the variety of the food, right? everything's kind of mid a little bit up, but it's not the best meal of your life, right? It is that idea that, like, I can go through that game and find something new to spend five hours with, but is it the best, if they were just making a thing
Starting point is 00:16:35 that was the undisputed storyline, right? That's all they were doing, it'd be way better. If they were just doing my GM mode, it'd be way better. But it's the fact that there's GM mode, faction, universe, the one I just mentioned that I can't get back to
Starting point is 00:16:47 for some reason, showcase, and then there's the other one. It doesn't matter. But there's all these different things that are there, that are good to fit your mood, but then there's the people who are just going to create, and then there's people are just going to go play on things,
Starting point is 00:16:57 and you're just going to play with your friends. And so it's like, it is this smorgas board of like, hey, there's all this great stuff here, good to great stuff here, but how is it going to speak to you, what's it going to resonate with you for you? That's been my biggest issue with these games forever,
Starting point is 00:17:11 but mainly the last couple years where it does feel like they have all these great modes, but I feel like so many of them, that there hasn't been the mode that I'm like, this is it, this is the canon way to play this game, this is the career mode that actually matters more than the rest of the things. And I've enjoyed the showcase modes. But again,
Starting point is 00:17:27 you guys are nailing it. I've enjoyed it more as a concept than actually what it is. It always feels like the coolest thing ever. And then you get into it and you're like, so to jump in in case someone's just hanging out with us because they're like kind of funny, you don't know what the showcase mode is. This is the third installment of WW showcase in a WW2K game. This year,
Starting point is 00:17:44 it's 40 years of WrestleMania. Of course, we're celebrating WrestleMania 40 in April in Philadelphia. The idea here is that, you have classic matches that Cory Graves, a Smackdown announcer, is introducing, explaining, you're seeing real footage from the match, documentary kind of stuff, they have interviews with the participants, then you start to play the match and it goes from the video footage into the ring, matches it almost seamlessly at times, then you'll be doing things,
Starting point is 00:18:10 almost seamlessly. There's definitely some moments they get me, but it's like, most of the ones, yeah, yeah, we're trying, I get it. Then you transition from the gameplay to the thing. seamless being what I mean is when they're like, all right, you go outside and you flip the guy and then they go in that moment of the flip and Paul Heyman's in the background, you're like, oh, that
Starting point is 00:18:27 looks great. The problem with this mode, and this is the first showcase I've ever finished. Oh, well, okay. I traditionally do not like showcase. I am with you. It's a better concept than a product. That is still true here. The fact that it was 40 years of WrestleMania, it was different matches in different people kept me more engaged than it has been in the past of being like, it's John Cena story. Okay, it's Ray's story.
Starting point is 00:18:49 okay, look, I respect those guys, but I don't necessarily want to do it. They were my guys back. Like, they were the ones I grew up with. And they changed it to where, like, it used to be the annoyance of you couldn't progress without doing the objectives. Now you can progress and just not get all the points for it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So you can still, they're optional objective. That's good. But it still is weird of like, you want to do the optional objective. So it does become this annoying thing of like, now reverse five times. And it's like, this is checklist bullshit.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Like, to Roger's point, like, earlier when we're talking off camera, you got to hit start to get the full description of it. So sometimes you're like with the guy in the corner, okay, and it's not going to open up, oh, outside of the corner, okay. And that's a big issue, not only in the showcase. I mean, the showcase is less of an issue because it is, you know, optional for the most, but I do believe there are some mandatory things you have to do in the showcase.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't think you can just like be Hulk Hogan and then just. No, no, no. But there's like, but it used to be that you have to do all three of these things to do the next thing. Gotcha. Yeah, it's a bigger issue in my rise mode, which is the storylines essentially, right? because you have to do these objectives. And the biggest issue with that is just like the objective UI is bad because it tells you, like there's so many times I've been so confused because it just says,
Starting point is 00:19:57 whip somebody into a corner, into the northwest corner. First things first, you got to highlight the northwest corner. You know what I mean? Like I'm in the action. I know. I got it. I got it. But like, it was just funny.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I was just like, okay, fine, northwest corner. I got it. Keep on doing it. I'm like, what is happening right now? And then I go to the pause menu. Oh, Irish whip, press this button. Okay. Fine, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:16 that's okay. Not a huge deal. I gotta press. I gotta learn these buttons. I understand what you're saying. I don't know why you didn't put in the actual like just Yeah, while I'm playing the game, but whatever, fine. Then there was one that really got me mad of like, I'm playing it, I'm having a good time. And then it's like, hey, you got to, uh, you got to throw somebody into the ropes on the entrance side of the ring. And I'm doing it. What the fuck? And then I pause it and says outside of the ring. How would I've ever known that? You know what I mean? Like that, it's little things like that that take away from the experience of my rise mode. and also I believe Showcase. Exactly. And I think a big part of it, too, is the idea that, like, on my rise, I didn't, I'll get, I want to put that on the side
Starting point is 00:20:53 and come back to it on that front. But for Showcase, it was like, I don't enjoy it, but I want to see it and I like the transition and I want to hear the story and yet, so, you know, I jump in, I turn it to easy because I just don't want to, I don't want to, like, I,
Starting point is 00:21:04 the last, me and Mike were bitching about this. The last thing I want to do is make it through all these steps, and then at the last second I get, he, I, they stage a comeback and beat me or make it so I miss the, objective to do the thing. And it's like, it just isn't fun.
Starting point is 00:21:18 It's checklisting, but it's not like Ubisoft checklisting of open world, right? If it was, and I think that would be the solution, which I don't know why they don't do it of just like, hey, you're going to this match and throughout it, do three slams, do this. And then just segment a health bar of like when this happens, we will force you into a cutscene where you tumble over the top rope. And then we do the like, you know, whatever things going on. I don't know why I was so hung up on Lex Lugar and Brett Hart tumbling over. I'm like, Lex isn't in this game.
Starting point is 00:21:44 It's going to be confusing. don't say it. They don't though. So they force them to these things that it just becomes busy work. And it then becomes an extension of the tutorial because I think it is there to showcase what you can do and how you do it and yada yada, which is interesting
Starting point is 00:21:59 and good but like not fun. You know what I mean? And so in my rise, I didn't have as much a problem with it because I feel like they don't do it as much. They do it. But it's not like, it's not like showcase where it is. How deep did you get into my rise? I got pretty deep. I mean, I don't know. I've had the championship quite a few days. Did you go to NXT?
Starting point is 00:22:15 go somewhere else? I have the championship for like over a year now. Yeah, me too. Yeah. We're about to the same way. It goes deep. It goes deep. Roger, how many hours have you put into it? Oh, I can't tell you. I gotta be honest. Yeah, I haven't checked my Xbox. But it's been, it's been a bit. Definitely not 30 or whatever you've had, but it's been like maybe 15, 20 hours. Like I put some, I put time into this game for sure. So I want to start with you and then, Greg. I want your answer on this too.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Have you created a wrestler? Yes. In my rise, you have to create a wrestlers. Yeah. So I created Goku 2. Okay. Yeah. I just go for like creating ghouls essentially. Like I cannot make a good character to save my life. If I tried to make myself, it would just look like the lock, right? It would just look like generic way. Generic guy with a ballad. So I just go for just all in, making a weird character.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And are you, did you, are you having fun with your creative character? Yes. Yes. I'm having a good time. Yeah, I love, that's like, that to me was a moment of like, I was like, oh, I like this game, but I don't, I don't, you know, it's nine months about it. Like, I was just like, I wasn't super like super impressed with the entire project. And then I saw all the entrances and all the things you could do with creating a character.
Starting point is 00:23:14 and then I was like, oh shit, like this goes so deep. And of course I knew about this because of KFW. Shout out to Allif Party. Shout to everybody. Lighter. Lighter. Yeah. Olive Party and lighter.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Yeah. Yeah. So like doing, like, I was aware of it, but like actually playing through it and like playing a character and making this just character that should just not be legal. You know what I mean? Like a character like that just should not be in any. Yeah, exactly. Just should not be in any video game or media.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But it was, it's great. So like, yeah, that was a fun time. So jumping to you then on the creative character front. one issue I had with this game that's nitpicky, but it really bothers me is every year I jump in, I'm like I'm gonna create a character, I'm gonna do the entire story mode I wanna do this.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Start creating the character, character and every option just takes a little too long to load where I'm like, this just doesn't feel good. You know what I mean? It's like when I hit the D-Pat over between hairstyles, I want the hairstyles to pop in. I don't wanna have to sit there and just wait for it to go.
Starting point is 00:24:07 What if I told you, Roger, there's so much better this year than they've been in the past. Really? So for you to say, oh my God, like you have no fucking idea they're better this year for sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Still not like, it's still not like, oh, it's reading the solid state drive of the PS5 and flying. But I jumped in and I was like, oh, fuck, all right, all right. I see you got some speed in your step here. That's good to know. That's good to know for sure. So then Rob's going back to you here with the character stuff. So have you found you, you're new to this.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Cody Rhodes is your guy, right? Like you wanted to finish the story. Are you playing a lot as Cody? Yeah, yeah. Are you playing a lot as Roman? No. Are you playing a lot as anyone else? I've been going, let me try to think, let me try to think.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I mean, Mommy, right? Oh, yeah. He got plays mommy. He's always on top? Yeah, always on top. But yeah, no, I've been, like, going through and, like, just playing as random characters, which has been super fun, like, even, like, Triple H and Sean Michaels, like, going back and trying to find, like, the legacy characters in there.
Starting point is 00:24:58 That's been a really fun time. Who, what have you found? Like, who are you like, oh, I kind of like this person? Oh, high flyers. I mean, that's just where I go to, right? I mean, none of those people I mention are high flyers, but, like, going to, like, anybody that I'm able to jump on the ropes. But that's a cool thing about WW2K, right?
Starting point is 00:25:12 I can make anybody high fly if I really want to. You know what I mean? Like I can just go on the top with Triple H. You know what I'm just jumping off the ropes now all the time. Yeah. So that's like the wish fulfillment of it all that I really vibe with for sure. And then Greg, you've been doing this forever with this iteration of the game.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Who do you find yourself playing as? And are you role playing more? Or are you kind of like finding the fun of your gameplay style? Oh, that's a great question. Tim. I think honestly it's a mode by mode thing. Right? So showcase wipe it off because it's all these different people you're playing as
Starting point is 00:25:40 ride for their very specific storylines. Universe, I started a, come on now. Dirty Dom. I'm doing a Dominic Mysterio campaign in Universe right now. We are the Intercontinental Champion. We're very excited. Wow. In my rise, the creative character thing, I am, I, I, the one of the sad parts about reviewing the game and getting it early, woe is me, is the fact that the creators don't
Starting point is 00:26:03 have it. W.W. 2K creators community is insane. So talented. Yes, Olive Party. Yes, lighter. and then at large, the people I follow on Twitter. And like, so it was that thing of getting it. It was like, I could sit here and waste an evening making gruesome Gregi,
Starting point is 00:26:19 knowing he will not be good in that Olive Party or Kenner is going to make an amazing one and look way better. So it's like, I'm not going to do that. And then it was the same thing of like, well, in any of these campaigns, I'd rather be somebody I know than create somebody. I'd rather it be that like I tried to, you know how I'm a huge McFoly fan growing up in a big Cactus Jack fan. I tried to copy and paste him to use him and it knew what I was trying to do so wouldn't let me. I ended up using the...
Starting point is 00:26:43 Do I explain that? You can, you know, take, the, Cactus Jack is in the game. So I basically copied Cactus Jack and put him into a creator-resolet thinking I'd be able to do it and then whatever. Edit it from that at like a starting point?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Why wouldn't it let you do that? I don't fucking know. I didn't have to, I went to start the thing and it didn't let me and I was like, oh, that's weird. So I just moved on. I didn't have time to,
Starting point is 00:27:02 I didn't want to worry about it. There's so much to taste to this buffet that I didn't have time to worry about waste about it. And so I ended up using, they have a whole bunch of pre-made creative characters. One kind of looked like Kevin.
Starting point is 00:27:13 So I named it Kevin Coelho and went with that and ran that way, knowing that, you know, the whole storyline, which we were talking about earlier, right, has a bunch of different branches,
Starting point is 00:27:21 right? So you can't see it all in one go. And I'm like, if I want to come back here and trophy hunt and get whatever, I'm just going to, you know, take a Taz.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I'm going to download a Taz eventually and bring him in here and do it that way or whatever, yeah, and run the board with it that way. So Dominic and, universe, this Kevin Coelho knockoff in that. Jeff Grub, Driff Grub, light. He looks like Jeff Grub in Kevin. You know, in my faction, I'm using HBK or the Cody Rhodes action figure, the elite Cody
Starting point is 00:27:47 Rhodes. I also have Mommy, of course, there as well for my faction deck. I'm working on that right now. And then, yeah, we've been doing when we've been multi-playing, we've mainly been doing random. We've been doing the two randoms. You pick from them or roll that third time and pick whoever from there. So I've been getting around quite a bit. We're going to keep talking about this after a quick word from our sponsors. This episode is brought to you by Shady Ray's, an independent sunglasses brand that has over 300,000 five-star reviews. They are on a mission to match affordability with durability, making top-quality shades accessible to everyone. They have tons of styles and colors to pick from, so finding the best polarized shades is a breeze.
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Starting point is 00:30:33 you add them to your faction, yet, yeah, et-a-da. Explain that for people that don't know at all. Sure. What that even means. So my faction is a standalone mode that you would enter into. You start with a pack of cards. You open it up like you're getting baseball cards and then you have wrestler cards. If you know my faction, I'm going to do it at the most basic level for people to get on board with it.
Starting point is 00:30:51 You get a selection of wrestler cards, right? You then would create your faction, your stable, your team, right? I always call mine kind of funny or KFW like I did this year. And then every time I unlock a new pack of cards, they're added to my collection. and I can go and activate four male cards or four female cards in my roster, right? On top of that, you have a manager card that you have. Managers then work, like, you know, I love Paul Heaman, right?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Right now, I don't have him. And I was a manager card last year in the game, right? But right now I'm using Cody Rhodes' dog. Awesome. He's a manager card. I knew you're going to ask. I'm blanking out. I can see it.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I can see his fucking face. Yeah, rock fucking shithead is what it rock calls him. It's like a Greek name, isn't it? is it D? I thought so, right? Yeah, it's going to have it. Pharaoh, it's Pharaoh. Then Egyptian, close enough.
Starting point is 00:31:39 No D anywhere. Anyways, so then a manager card, you know, it'll say, oh, this works great with high flyers or brawlers, right? So then you look at your available cards, you want to be pairing them up to get stat bonuses, yada, yada, yada. The idea here that you can have multiple decks. So I think of like, you know, how you like playing Marvel Snap. You can have your Paul Heyman deck, your Greg Miller deck,
Starting point is 00:32:00 your Farrow deck, where he was not in this game, but maybe one day. You know what I mean? that you can put everybody on and then you start building that that way. Anyways, with your deck activated, you'd then go into matches. There's several different types of proving grounds, which are like trees. There's weekly trees at the end of the, you know, you go through, you can do all these matches that you're using your cards in at the end of it.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And you're not, these aren't cards. You're taking the cards in and then playing the matches. So I'm playing, it's the game, it's the game, but I'm using these cards, right? That is deciding what my roster is, what my faction is. and then you at the end get a reward. Maybe it's my faction points to unlock more cards. Maybe it is a card. Maybe it's side plates,
Starting point is 00:32:39 which we don't have to get into, but are augments for your thing or whatever. That, everything I just described is very much what my faction has been before. They've done a bunch of really nice changes to it that I'm really, really happy with. I mentioned at the top,
Starting point is 00:32:51 but it's worth doing again, the fact that now if you get a persona card in this, which would be you pull a Becky Lynch that has a different outfit than Becky Lynch in the main game, that would be a persona card, and then Becky Lynch in the main game would now have the outfit she has on that card. Oh, interesting. So like a big time Becky versus the man versus...
Starting point is 00:33:10 Exactly. Okay. So now if we wanted to get all... I'm not going to tell you how to handle information like this, but if you wanted to get into it, yep, there's going to be costumes that are gated into my faction that you won't have in your base game or that in your exhibition game or you don't have to go play it elsewhere. However, again...
Starting point is 00:33:29 Wait, hold on. I fucked that up. Sorry. If we wanted to get mad about it, it, we're talking basically there's a microtransactions here. Oh. That you're going to, there's going to be, you have to play my faction to get outfits for your main game to play with your friends. But again, to get bitchy about it and we can't have our cake and eat it too. Last year, these outfits would have been locked to my faction, period.
Starting point is 00:33:47 You would not have been able to get them out of that to play with them anywhere else. So this is a win that they're there. And again, as somebody who likes my faction, I like turning on the game and having a reason to run this and play this. If you're telling me, I'm going to get in there and there's going to be a new cactus jack card with a new cactus jackass jack outfit fuck yeah i'll go play for it and try to unlock it as the thing or of course then you get into the slippery slope of microtransactions of
Starting point is 00:34:08 i am i going to get real currency to try to get that card out of a pack or am i keep using in-game currency to try to get the card out of the pack or whatever the hell it would be but again i still chuck it up as a win beyond that beyond uh faction wars is there i hated faction wars before because it was cool take your four your four guys in a faction and throw them into an eight-man tag match right so it's you you guys versus four and as i already said last year it was the fucking outrageous tag everybody's coming in to interrupt every pin and submission so it's like well i'm never gonna this is a pain in the ass these are 30 minute matches
Starting point is 00:34:40 20 minute matches to get this done they've done away with that uh that concept and they kept faction wars but they're calling it 2.0 and what's cool about it and i know so a lot of people hate this but i love is that it's a rogulight so it is the idea that you go in and you start with a match and then it branches and so do you want to go to this thing that would give you this benefit or do you want to this thing do this benefit. Then it'll lead you. There's a 3v3 match down here, but there's a two man, two v2 ladder match up here. And so you kind of pick this thing and go. And as you're going, I'm doing my first one right now. Because again, last night my faction opened up. And I was like, oh, yeah, I started playing soft action. I was like, fuck this shit. I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And then today when we were sitting there open, I was like, what the fuck? Wait a second. And so you're going through and doing that. And the team you have, right, at this onset of it, I don't know if it's every time, but I got it of like armor bonuses to put all my characters. they gave them like purple shielding on their health. Once on this, it's a five run. You have to do five runs to get to the boss or whatever. Your health is your health. So as you go and that armor gets chipped away,
Starting point is 00:35:39 if it then gets to my real health bar, I carry that damage match to match to match. And then like, you know, I think it was at the end of run two, we beat Roman rains in the bloodline. And so they were like, cool, now you can take one of their cards and put it into your faction for the rest of the faction.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And so I was like, or for the rest of faction wars, right? And there you're also earning a my, a faction wars currency that once you beat the boss at the end of the run, right? You can use it to unlock that person for your my faction set for your card pack and shit. It's like that's another level for me of somebody who really likes my faction wants to do it. Beyond that, they've introduced ranked play. So you can go in like before we had quick play where you can go play other people. That's still there.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Now they've added this ranked play where you're going in. You have to get your number of licks to get your rank to go and do this multiplayer stuff. like that's all cool. I'm super stoked about what they're doing with it. Yeah, the faction war stuff was something that I was not aware of until we did our stream today. And I'm, I'm very interested in that because I opened up my faction for the first time last night when it opened up. And I was just so overwhelmed. Like, it just starts throwing cards at you. And I'm like, what type of gambling bullshit is this?
Starting point is 00:36:44 I never done like an ultimate team thing or anything like that. So I just see, you know, the kids on Twitch making so much money opening cards and, you know, trying to get little kids to buy these things. That's why I'm like, I don't want to play this. And then once I saw what it actually was, I was like, okay, no, this is, this is what I'm into. Like, this seems like the rogue light element of it is the thing that's going to get me to go back to this. And it's something that I think is not going to be there
Starting point is 00:37:05 for my rise in GM mode. So that's interesting. And that's the whole thing about it, right, of trying to find the hook for whatever mode you want to be in. And yeah, every one of these modes is insane. Like, even opening up my GM mode today with you, right? Which, again, I've played before, but never really loved. And, like, it was just tutorial after tutorial for tutorial.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And again, like, there, it's eye-roly and shake your head about it, but it's also like, hats off to fucking the team, you know, for a 2K and visual concepts for making this happen and like getting something so deep to it. So my question with the modes, there are so many modes in these games and it's overwhelming as hell. Greg, what are the modes in the WV2K games that you every year play? And are there any this year that you're like, oh, I'm giving this this mode way more of a shot that I normally do? I mean, last year I would say was dominated by my faction. My faction was the idea, like my faction both, I say last year, but I guess it was a year before that as well. but it is the idea that like
Starting point is 00:37:56 my faction gets me excited because again to look back at how I played a SmackDown versus a Raw or a SmackDown Just Bring it or I'm not even though SmackDown game No Mercy right There is that thing where you eventually sit down and you're just like I'm going into exhibition and running this and doing that
Starting point is 00:38:12 and now universe is taken over and blah blah but my faction is the idea that when the DLC drops you get those cards as well as soon as they drop and you purchase them or have the season pass or whatever so it's like I'm going to I love playing my faction to be earning something and grinding on something and getting better, right? And so the idea that in May I'm going to get a CM Punk card
Starting point is 00:38:33 that drops and be able to run off with that, it's like, fuck yeah, and that whole ECW pack and Sandman, right? Like, yeah, and an ECW Paul Heyman manager card, like, yeah, I'm going to want to fucking build a whole fucking extreme group around that. A little hat. A little hat era, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah, he had a hat for it. There was a lot of hat errors with Paulie. But yeah, like, that is what will keep me coming back. in general, just in my faction, there's always something to do. There's always something to do in this game in general. My faction is the direct, hey, this is what it's going to do,
Starting point is 00:39:00 and what I really appreciate about it is, hey, this is the wrestling. You know, you comment on this when you walked in, right? That, like, you start the match, and it's bam, you're in the ring. There's no entrances. There's none of the frivolous stuff. It's like, cool, you're going into a ladder match.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Go do it. You're there. You're fighting. You're in it. And again, like, depending on, like, the version of it you're doing, because there's the faction wars, like I said,
Starting point is 00:39:19 and there's Proven Grounds, and there's weekly towers, like the proving grounds, I believe it is, is the one where you can select the difficulty. So it can be easy, medium, hard. You get different rewards for it. Obviously, you're earning these WW tokens that you're then spending to, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:32 get more cards or get different cards and move that way. We haven't even gotten into the fact, Kevin, Tim, of evolution cards where you're getting a card that is, you know, starts as green. I guess that's amethysts, right? And then, you know, if you do all the challenges for that character, like, you know, get 50 limb damage on, or get, you know, red limbs on 50 times and do this minute.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Then you upgrade that card so that character's stronger now, right? So there's that idea to grind out cards specific for your team. Like, there's always something to do in that mode. And I understand that people find it to be, oh, man, it's gotcha. It's this. It's that. I, you know, take your own opinions with it, your own tendencies for gaming. It's a mode where I think throughout the years, I think I bought one pack.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And I remember last year when they gave. when my card dropped or whatever, they did give me VC, so I did buy a bunch of packs at that point. But like, that's a full game and then a long time of the next game before I ever did anything like that. Where it's just like, for me, it's not about that. Now again, I am getting DLC characters, so I'm stoked to get the ones I did, but I guess I could be, you could say I'm buying that, but even right now, I have Sean Michaels, I have Cody Rhodes as an action figure, I have John Cena as an action figure, and I have Dusty Rhodes. Like, that's the team. And then I think it's Becky and Mommy and two others that I never use on the women's side, right? I don't need other
Starting point is 00:40:49 people. I'm excited to get other people, but I'm not like, I gotta fucking go buy stuff. I got to go drop money right now. And I do feel that, you know, I bought a pack last night, which was one night of playing faction where I was like, okay, I can buy a pack. So I do think it's not money grubby. I have seen, I know, games radars review, which was excellent. They're very down on the my faction stuff. They're like, they're like, it's everywhere, which I also don't agree with, but there are things of like going through characters and it's like, oh, this is unlocked by doing my faction or doing the storyline stuff. And like, which I appreciate because I love, that's cool. I'd like to go get that.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Like, I get these games and I want to go do the stuff in them. Raj, how much more do you see yourself playing this? And what modes do you think you're going to resend the most time with going forward? I'm definitely going to try out my faction specifically for the rogulight element of it. It's a weird one. Like, I don't know GM mode. I think I'm out on the showcase mode. Would you play GM mode more with me?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Because that's my thing where it's like, I'm never going to go home and roll a GM mode on my own. Which, by the way, if you don't know, GM mode is the nerdy. You could wrestle with it, but you really don't. But you start, you pick a general manager to be, you pick a brand to be, then you draft your roster of characters. And I think it's 25 weeks. It might be 26, six weeks. But you go head to head either with your friends locally.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I think it's only local or AI. And to see who has the best show by the end of the year. You're trying to fulfill objectives. And you've got budgets and you can spend the money to get better arenas, to get more people, to make more money. Like, it's a sim management game. And of course, our friends at Up, Up, Up, Down, Xavier Woods, a.k. Austin Creed, do a.
Starting point is 00:42:19 fantastic series where they go head to head all the time in it. So if you really wanted to see the minutia in what you can do with it, go for it. Me and Raj played it today. And I was having a great time, but the stream was like, yeah, it's just menus. Can we see wrestling? And I was like, yeah, sure. And it's like, I'm not champing at the bit to go home tonight and run a GM mode by myself. But if you were like, hey, let's have some beers or let's do it in the stream, I'd be down.
Starting point is 00:42:38 No, I'd be down to try it again with you. I think I'm just like, maybe it's my brain. My brain's not like, I don't have like that making a match, like putting the best people together or maybe even just like the, I don't have like the will to look through and be like, okay, well, these two characters might have a rivalry, maybe make this happen. Like, it just wasn't as fun as I thought it was going to be. And I love that stuff usually. Like usually, like, I remember I think it was the first like a Dragon game that has like a business sim element to it. And I love figuring out like tweaking the knobs and figuring it all out. Like that,
Starting point is 00:43:08 that to me always speaks like usually is like my shit. It just was not necessarily my shit. But I would definitely try it out again with you, Greg. But like for me, at least, by myself that's not happening. The showcase mode is just, I just was not having enough fun with it. Also, like, this is, I didn't love the video packages that came with the showcase mode.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I think I got what they were going for, but like so much of it had to be blurred because they have the WWF logo. But it's not, it goes so further beyond that, right? Where it is the idea of like, yeah, I hate that too, of course, the WWF, WWW you think sucks.
Starting point is 00:43:37 But it's also the fact of like, just again, while I, like, whenever I'm like, it should be a live service. We're like, it never would be because of contracts and licensing. I'm like, I get that. like they'll figure it out kind of thing. And that's the problem here where it's like,
Starting point is 00:43:51 referees faces are blurred because they're not the referees in this game. Other wrestlers are blurred because they're not in this game either. And so of course, you can't just take somebody's right. Like, you know what I don't know by any, well, I probably do if we look through it. I don't know what a WWE contract is in terms of them owning your likeness, but it's probably for right, for, you know, for this video,
Starting point is 00:44:12 for us using the video on in a video way works, whereas using a video that we recorded in a video game must get weird where you have to pay people for that. Yeah, it just didn't, that to me was disappointing of like I wanted to not only learn but I wanted to like be enriched by the content.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And it was just, it to me felt pretty service level of like we're doing the thing, okay, this match happened and it was really intense and then this person won, I'm like, cool, next one. Like it didn't feel like a documentary. Doesn't feel like this is awesome. Yeah, it's true. It's true. It's true. I mean, real talk though.
Starting point is 00:44:40 There is that level of care and I totally even from the past ones that I've seen, And I feel like this even has the risk of being even more disjointed because it is just every match is a different set of people and different everything. And they do the very quick thing of like, okay, this person had a beef with this one. Now they're in the thing. It's like, cool. Okay, I guess this is cool. I mean, like, again, if you know the history, it's probably cool to play it all.
Starting point is 00:45:00 But for someone who doesn't know the history, it just was like, this is very much a cliff's note situation. So that's done for me. I think the main mode of just playing with friends, like, of course, we're going to do that a lot. Like, that's awesome. Like, that is a fun time to spend a Friday before or after SmackDown. That's a great time. I think that my factions is really interesting, but other than that,
Starting point is 00:45:19 I don't think I see myself consistently coming back to this other than like around WrestleMania time when I'm just jazzed up and excited for that. What about the universe mode? You think you're gonna keep on? No, the universe mode I was pretty disappointed on with in general, just because it is so simplistic, right?
Starting point is 00:45:33 Like there is an, I wanted, I want this mixture between GM mode and universe mode. Like that is like my perfect mode. I don't even know what that looks like, but I want control, but I also want to control like everything around. it and you kind of split those things, you know, with universe and GM mode. And they both, those products to me just are not as good separated.
Starting point is 00:45:53 But yeah, I'm happy that I played this game. I had a great time. I'm looking forward to the next one. I'm happy that, like, I'm in the ground floor. I understand what these games can be now. And I can see, like, the iterations. Like, that's going to get me really excited for the next ones. But, yeah, I had a good time overall, for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:09 How exciting is the roster currently in the game? I mean. for you, I feel like. Okay. I find it super exciting because, again, it's doing such a great job of mimicking now. I think we look back at past years, right? And there have been like, yeah, it would have been last year, right?
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah, last year, right? When, yeah, last year, well, he fought an elimination chamber. That was right after Sammy and split from the bloodline, right? Yeah, like weeks after. And that was the problem where you got the game. And it was like, oh, they put Sammy into his Sammy shirt. But clearly this was made when he was. he was still bloodline and they were like oh fuck we got to scramble and get this done so it doesn't
Starting point is 00:46:47 you know what i mean like right now because it hasn't been you know w he's been trucking for a while and doing well on his thing i'm not you're not seeing the ooh that feels out of time yeah and i mean i think even dominic last year maybe the year before that right yeah it was like one of those like oh they're putting you into judgment day but you're not that dominic in this game right like this is everyone feels like they should feel so far and again everyone who's big feels like how they should be. I haven't gone into the weeds of every smaller feud and smaller organization faction or whatever. Um, I find the roster great because it's reflecting what we're watching and that is the fun of it. We know we're getting Sam Punk in DLC pack, right? Like that
Starting point is 00:47:27 obviously he had returning and surprise return to Survivor series, which was not that long ago. Like, that's awesome that they're jumping on that. Do you think that we see Heel, Rock being added to the game soon? No, not at all. No, that's not how it works. Like they've already announced all their DLC packs and those will be the deal. Really? Yeah. You know the rest of the year for the DLC
Starting point is 00:47:47 and like what'll happen. I mean, there, again, so it's a good question. So Rock's already in the game, right? So you figure dropping on my faction card
Starting point is 00:48:00 for Hollywood corporate rock isn't impossible and have it be, hey, he's there, go do this tower to get him to bring him into your game. That is possible.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Of course, it's already up. I, you know, there's somebody who, during our stream was like there are something like 1100 creative pages already like you know how many people are creating stuff there's a you can go get that rock and have it be fine or whatever but I wouldn't see if they did that that would be a huge change I would hope they would do it but again
Starting point is 00:48:27 you are on a nine month development cycle for 2k 25 and I'm sure they're like fuck that put them in there and make it work but we'll see who is there anybody that's missing from this iteration that you feel like maybe even not current because it sounds like it reflects the current situation great, but are there legends that were like, oh man, it's a bummer that they're not here? Of course. I mean, you, I like, you know, the, not to harp on the live service and the video we made,
Starting point is 00:48:52 we made, you know what I mean, uh, but it was the idea that like, I was, you know, daydreaming on the way home of what matches I wanted to do. I want to do Rick, oh, Rick Flares not in this game. Yeah. Shit, fuck, right. Rick's not in this year. And then somebody in our chat was like, this is the first WDB game in 20 years, Edge isn't in. Oh, no. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That was one that I looked for. Yeah. Yeah. I was just, I was kind of
Starting point is 00:49:12 Edge was always my, I mean, I love him in WWE, but also just playing the games. Like his spear is so satisfying. Is Eddie in it? Yeah. Yeah, Eddie's. I think there might even be multiple eddies. Somebody check me on that because I believe there's one of the classic Eddie's and then the more modern Eddie.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Love that. Yeah. But no, it's like, it's that kind of stuff where it's like, yeah, you know, the, you know, double J. Let's get in. All right now, double J. You know, the parties, no hardies. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:37 Like there's all that. And again, until they figure out a live service element, that's how this is always going to be. It's just such a bummer. You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you feel playing as any, is there any character that you're playing as that feels vastly improved from the
Starting point is 00:49:50 previous ones? Vastly improved is an interesting question. You know, again, there's so many little things that I even struggle to put my finger on of what's different. Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:05 I think the last two years, but definitely last year, there was a big problem for me with my usual offensive style of, I like to grab guys, whip them to the ropes, get them on the rebound. and I forget what they changed when they came out of the,
Starting point is 00:50:17 came back and it was like, I kept fucking it up and bumping chests with people. The timing was weird. You had to hit a very specific timing and it totally threw me off of my game. They've gone now and changed it of like,
Starting point is 00:50:28 you whip people to it. And then if you hit, you know, Circle X or Square, you hold the, they'll hold it. So you come and they'll wait to do the move you want to do,
Starting point is 00:50:36 which is super nice in terms of an addition to it. They've added in the, I honestly wish I knew to trigger it. It seems like it happens at random or whatever with this trading blows minigame. You know what I mean? You know how wrestling match is starting.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Gag, God, God, you're right? They've added that, and it's a cool feature of, you know, squares pop up and you need to hold them and let go of them and this right thing and there's an instant win and blah, but it happens so rarely that it's like chaos when it happens. And every time it happens, I think I have to like, match. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:51:04 So it's like weird. There's stuff like that. Like, I'm sorry, back to your question of anybody who feels better. Like, it's hard to say because wrestling is, what, 80 to 90? 90% what you see, right? And so, like, I want to say, tell you, Dominic feels so much better. But it might just be that Dominic feels like Dominic. He looks like Dominic.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Great. I mean, that is. Yeah. Yeah. Them booing him and like him, you know, kicking dirt on people. And then just fucking 619 frog splash down. Like, fucking this is awesome. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:35 And not to mention pairing him with a manager of Mommy and she's out there. And Ria is taking down the turnbuckle. So I'm fucking with somebody over there. It's like, this feels like what I watch. And I love that. That's great. Any final thoughts on? the game?
Starting point is 00:51:47 Yeah, no, I would recommend this to people who are like me, who are getting into WW universe for the first time or in a while or for the first time ever. I think it's a really good, like, representation of what we currently have. Will that be outdated in a few weeks, maybe, potentially? Probably undoubtedly, yeah, for sure. But right now, having a great time with it. Yeah, I'm in love. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:09 I've been in love the past two years. I think, again, like, I don't want to. want to be negative, right? But every year I think it's like, oh, well, maybe this is going to be the one that's going to be the, okay, they're just doing the same thing. Okay, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Like, they didn't do that here. I'm stoked to play more. I do, like, again, it has been like, I told you this when we were getting ready for it. But like, now that it's at home, it's like, man, if you thought I put a lot of hours in before, now that I have a portal, now that I'm sitting there and it's like,
Starting point is 00:52:35 now that I'm looking at my faction and all this stuff, it's like, I can see me just constantly grinding stuff. We did talk about it, though, of like, I've been playing this a lot on my LogiteG Cloud streaming from my Xbox. And like the counters and like pressing the counters are like, it's a split second thing. Of like you have to press it sometimes before the button even pops up it feels like to get a counter.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And like with a streaming device, like, that's a hard one to play. Honestly, I had more trouble in our room where I felt like it was that portal. You know, knock on glass. Like in my house feels almost flawless. Right. I'm not having that. Okay, hold on a second. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:09 So like I'll stick with that or whatever. But yeah, I'm pumped. I can't wait. It's definitely, I think of like, you know, I've tweeted about it, but we don't have to talk about everything. Like the ECW pack comes out May 15th. And it's one of those where I'm like, oh, it's so far away. And like, that's great that I have the game.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Yeah. I have so much to do. And I'm still like, oh, fuck, May 15. Like, there's another release state to worry about it. I'm excited for it. 100%. Yeah, like they've made something special again for wrestling fans. Again, I stand by that it's, I think the best wrestling game there's ever been.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Yeah, wow. Well, there you go, everybody. Let us know in the comments below if you were thinking about picking this one up and what modes you are most excited to get into. And if you're going to create a character or if there's somebody that you are excited to play as. Until next time, I love you all. Goodbye.

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