Kitbag Conversations - Episode 26: The Middle East 101

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

Do you think you have a handle on the Middle East? Well come in and grab a chair, Matt and Cody are gonna go down the list of things that matter in that part of the world.

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this is gonna go a while and I she's as Christ. I mean, The sheer amount of three hours blocked off for this Dude, it's I mean So I'm already recording but for the listeners we've been planning this one for like I don't know how long have we been talking about Iran, Saudi, Cold War, like at least since you've been back from the last deployment, so like a month plus and then all the more plus with Armenia and not going to car box is real Hamas and we're just like sitting

here like sitting on this one, we're just like, I don't get to it. It'll happen. It's such a it's such a dense topic though. It's not like a some of the yes or, who's the bad guy kind of thing? Because Saudi Arabia and Iran are, you know, pound for pound, both not good guys. But yeah, but running around in the I see for like almost 10 years, everyone's like, I'd rather have the Persian on my side than the Saudi. It's like, what the fuck?

I mean, doesn't it make, I mean, most people who are listening to this don't know, but like Matt's exactly right. There is a big split in the intelligence community as far as like who, why are we working over time for Saudi Arabia when I ran, when I ran could be just as good as an ally, maybe even better. I mean, anybody who's served with Saudi's nose knows, like, they're not worth their weight.

Like, it's, they're just not good. Just look at, look at their performance and fucking. Yeah, man. That's, that is the topic I do want to talk about. He's so much. Wait, there's, so it's like, so we have like meet and three, let's take three to five made focal points. It's like, Yemen, Hamas, his Bala, Armenia, Ezra by John, and just like the Cold War itself because like the,

it's not the Straits of Four Moons. That's the straight Four Moons. It's a straight Four Moons. I mean, I mean, that was the thing, and I'll never forget that was like, you think you know what's going on, but then you have the Navy, which, I mean, you've come out and said it multiple times, you're like, I'm not impressed by naval intelligence, but the one thing that I was impressed by was their view of the world is completely flipped from ours. Like they see it as C and then the land is in the way. We see it. And so like when I, there was a female O4 that gave a briefing about

Sankcom and it was, it was wild to me because it was concepts and things like you're saying, like the straight of four moves, it's like, I don't even, that's not even something on my, my focal point, but it's like the whole Arabian Peninsula is like a problem for us. For me. Yeah, it's a whole thing. And then I remember in like 2015, 2016 when I got in,

there was like this weird push by the DoD to re-brushing golf to the Arabian golf to like be more friendly with Saudi Arabia. I was like, what the fuck is this? Like I remember giving a brief talk about the Persian golf we were focusing on like some town or whatever. And they were like, excuse me, it's the Arabian golf. It's like, lore. I was like, what? I'm like, I've never heard this, but I'm right. They're just sticking it to him by calling it the Arabian. That's petty shit.

That's such petty shit. It's like owning the chud. You're just like, here it is. It's so stupid. It's like, did you really say that? Like did you really think that like did you really think that's gonna like piss off Iran like that? It's a cold it the a really fucking shit heads like You think the Saudi prince gives two shit so she's whipping gaze off buildings. He's like oh shit. We got a win over there He's like, W. Fuck yeah.

Took a minute to stop beating women at the DMV. Like, no, no cars for you. Oh shit. Here, it's so funny. It's like, he's Christ. Is this what you should be? So we do something like that. We're gonna rebrand the Persian Gulf to the Arabian Gulf

in Volkswagen and in every single corporation the planet refuses to throw a gay pride flag. I'm June for like the Arabian Gulf in Volkswagen and in every single corporation the planet refuses a thorough gay pride flag. I'm June for like their Arabian clients. You're like, all right, what do everybody do? Yeah, I'm like, man. So I was in preparation for this. I watched, I watched some things on it. And the funny thing that they mentioned is things.

I've heard some things. Like a Vox. They had like a cold war and 10 minute thing on it. And the funny thing that they mentioned is things I've heard some things like a Vox they had like a cold war 10 minute thing on it. And I think it's funny because they basically this basic summary of the video was 1979 Islamic revolution the Shah gets in pattern gets outed from Iran and basically Saudi Arabia goes oh you can't you can't kick royalty like that's like the whole thing and basically Saudi Arabia goes, oh, you can't kick royalty. That's like the whole thing. And Saudi Arabia basically shoot its pants. And after that, and the Islamic Revolution was basically kickoff for this whole thing. And yeah. And essentially, even the Arab Spring, which I remember that, I remember. Which is huge. Yeah, we can even talk about that. Like that is huge. I mean, Arab Spring

fallout 2011 ish is when Iraq sort of going tits up again after we left. And then the she is we're like, we're a charge now. We're going to persecute suities. It's like, it's a good sense. And they're all from like what, Basra and like Southern Iraq and Saudi city where you're like, ah, goddamn it. Remember, uh, arguing with my dad, because he was, he was working that and I was in Intel school and we were dealing with all types of things and ROTC and stuff and he was like,

oh, the Muslim Brotherhood knee-jipped, it's a thing, I was like, they're a community center, my guy. Like, this is all a proxy war. And I remember there was a big moment with Egypt They were like holy shit the Muslim brotherhood is like active. I'm like they're the YMCA like there were groups that yeah The Muslim brotherhood is basically like Do you that book a black swan talks about the in the 1970s?

Like they've always kind of been like there, but I don't want to say it's almost like a His bala militarized wing and and his bala like political wing. Like it's two completely separate things under the same banner. Yeah, but the Muslim brotherhood, I'm not going to allow you. I'm not 100% sure if they're all like related or something because there's like communities in every country and like North Africa and the Middle East and they all like shake hands and kiss babies. But you're just like, like,

just just just just Arab babies's not Persians, not Posh tunes, not, sort of God, if you send me this Rayleigh off. I'll kick a bed when I'll kick a bed when I'm gonna take a bed when I can. But so the big one that you have to start off with, I think, is the Iran-Iraq war, because that was the big one. After, because it started in 1980, Saddam versus the Shah, or another Shah that was the Mullahs. Eighth and 88, right? Yeah, 80 to 88, because Saddam was Sunni fighting Jheah, and he was losing. And Saudi Arabia stepped in and started supplying him. And W yeah, we legit gave and I tell people this all the time

Like if you think you understand the Middle East you better remember that Saddam has the key to Detroit like he was a hero Yeah, he was he was it was crazy and It's yeah, anyways, but yeah, so it's like 1979 you have the Like I said you have the Islamic Revolution in Iran Saudi Arabia freaks out because they're like okay the Shah who's a king and Saudi Arabia is a kingdom It's the kingdom of South for those listeners and so once the Shah falls they immediately start attack or Iraq starts getting it after I ran like fuck this like Saddam once said like I am I hold the wall of the suit like of Islam

He legit thought it's pretty much like he was that like Caesar at the battle of Louisiana He was just like surrounded. Yeah, he was like look. I'm the barrier, bro Like yeah, I mean he said it when he talked to the secretary of state He was like I did all this shit or of the United States. He said, I did all this shit for Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. You were allies of them. You gave, you awarded me these awards. You gave me weapons and now Kuwait slant drilling underneath the border into Iraq. Yeah. Yeah. And it was a 90% of how we got involved in the Middle East started with that bullshit was 1979, then 1980, and then Iran, Iraq, and that was a hard fought war. That was chemical attacks.

You know, oh yeah, they used, well, SA-2 and Scud missiles as bottle rockets against trench positions. Yeah, they didn't ever once attempt to shoot at a plane. They just got rocketing the other guys. But you can even say it goes back a little further to like the roots of Persia. Like at the time it was Persia. And they were the only Middle Eastern country to never get colonized.

For some reason they escaped. It's like them in like Ethiopia where the only two people in that region who never got colonized. And then they were, they were a dominion of the British Empire. Like they were friends with the British. And then when they sort of like do and all finicky things, the British Empire stepped up or I guess like post World War II, the British stepped in. They're like, we're going to go in there and fucking sort this shit out. And the US was like, oh, it was pump of breaks. We just saw

how you acted in Egypt and the Suez Canal. Like, yeah, it's pump of breaks on that one. And then, you know, there's always that threat of the Soviet Union. So it's never like an India situation where there are a party of non-alignments. They were like, we have to pick a side because we boarded with these guys. So it's like they were working with us until they went tits up and went their own third option. But yeah, there was definitely like a panic that ripped through the entire Arab world. You got guys like Saddam and Syria and Egypt.

We cannot have whatever that is happen here. Which is strange because like, the country is diverse as like Libya was also watching it very closely. We cannot have that here. And then we all worked together for like five years. Well, I mean, it's, oh my God, I was just telling like, K-dos. These are so fun, dude.

It's just so fun. I was just telling K-dos yesterday that fifth group, its name is the Legion, but they also call it the fifth infantry division, which for those listeners out there, the reason why they do that is because like, fifth group's always deploying. They're always, their area of responsibility is the Middle East. And I told them, I was like,

everything you just said is exactly why it has to be that way. It's because there are, there's no alcohol, there's no drugs, you can't look at the women. Like, if you're in seventh group in South America, there's drugs, there's women, there's alcohol, there's partying, there's none of that in the Middle East. And like you said, there's all these alliances moving and shifting. Like I didn't even know we worked with the Libyans for five years.

We're like, oh shit, we got to stop that shabbage. Like, yeah, it was like, like, Momora Gaddafi, because he like ran the oil and shit inside Libya. He went, he, I think it was the 1980s. He decided to invade Nijir where the French had like their nuclear uranium deposits and everything like that and the current leader of the About to be like president of Libya with the tank commander Momark or Khalifa Haftar who invaded Nizier and lost and so like inside Libya

They're like all right. Well, we just lost a war and Everyone knows that we're being kind of hot hands and then at the same time we have a bunch of people who are pissed off that the economic situation is going tits up and then the US is trying to punish the the Persians by bombing us. You're like, bro, and at the same time, and Momar with Gaddafi, who's getting bombed, is just like, you know how I'm gonna piss everybody off? Yeah. I'm gonna give Stinger missiles to the IRA.

And it's like, what the fuck? Yeah, dude, at the same time, like, so he was like, fuck, the Americans rocked my shit. So what he did is he just bought every single like, essay seven and essay 14 and four, he bought every single one. When the essay 14 and four He bought every single one when the country collapse those went missing Fucking Hama and then all of a sudden Hamas and fucking Yemen have fucking essay sevens and four you're like Kidding right the who we see some shoes down like yeah, right

Dude I was I've been listening to dead Kennedy's a lot recently and that song kinky sex makes the world go around They keep like it's you know you listen, yeah, right? Dude, I've been listening to Dead Kennedy's a lot recently and that song, Kinky Sex makes the world go around. They keep, like, it's, you know, you listen to it, right? Yeah, yeah, so it's just like, this is the US Department of Defense. We have way too many young men walking around committing crimes and we get this guy, Momargettoffy, that seems like he wants to play, but he never shows up.

So he goes, fuck. Fuckin', that's, but that's one country, bro. That's Libya, that's not,, and then you have and that has nothing to do with Iran. Yeah You're just like and it's wild because right now it like We were talking about it. We were saying like how everybody went from Ukraine being a Middle East expert and it's like bro You and I both weren't in Middle East and Africa. And we're just like, I don't even if I could understand this shit. Like the closest thing I ever came to

is explaining like both the Middle East, North Africa and the Arab world is like the NFL where it's like, say like Baghdad's Detroit, very obvious and hilarious. But Baghdad's like Detroit, right? But then you have like Detroit Lions fans in like Mesa, Arizona. We could say that's like, you know, Sudan. And so they're all like on the same page and all intermingling. If you ever get like six hoodlums drunk and have their team lose, they're going to get in a fist fight.

They refuse to talk to each other. It's like the NFL, dude. They're all fucking all over the place. And you have teams, but you have sub-greens. And then you have football groups. And then Facebook, I was like, uh, it just keeps trickling down towards like, it, there's no way, there's no fucking way. You can get, uh, a Patriots fan and throw him into like Chicago. Be like, let's have a conversation. Dude, and, and you can go one step further and say every now and then it gets like conventional war and you just have the pro game, right?

So like, you have Israel, like you have other teams coming together to make one team. So you have Israel, Jordan and Egypt beating up Hamas and then you have like, why are you switching jerseys? What the fuck is going on? Right. But it's funny. You mentioned the, like everyone going from like, you create an expert to like a middle east Arab studies expert. And there's all that you probably see it.

There's like this funny meme going around. It's like a tug of war between like, Palestine and Israel. And on Israel side, there's like neo-Nazis and like Catholics. And then like the Palestinian side, there's like neo-Nazis in like Catholics and then like the Palestinian side there's like the LGBT community and like And like South African cartels and you're like Like how are we even remotely considered the same? Oh my god, bro Like it's so

Confedit. It's it's that one I saw the other day was like queers for Hamas, and I was like oh brother There were two Jews from Wisconsin who fucking used their They used their is Jewish ancestry to get a free farm in Israel and they were like 62 64 whatever and they were pro Palestinian and peace talks all this shit had all that like right on the border of Gaza Hamas jumps the wall and these two Israelis Jews Wisconsin's whatever the fuck they are they were in a panic room So they were pro Palestine pro all these things living in it was common just but they had a safe room

And they were killed and I was like why'd you have a safe room? I thought we were, I thought, oh, did you have it? And so it's like, at the bare bones, right? Like when you get down to that level, that ground level, it's exactly, it's so simple. It's just Israelis versus Hamas. Not Palestinians, Palestinians are just getting away. It's just Hamas.

But then you start getting to these layers of like bullshit surrounding it. And it's like, like you said, how are queers from LA? The queers for Hamas in LA backing a tear. What the fuck? Like, like, what? And yeah, like, you're exactly right. Like, yeah, I mean, like Palestine, they're very kind of like, Shia leaning. I don't want to say they're all Shia, right? But they're all like Shia leaning. There's like two million people there. There's like a half, there's a million kids under the age of like 20 or something. And they through and through like the 67 war, the six day war, all these crazy things like just looking for like face value like this what we're working with. And so the people were like, fuck, we need a government to like negotiate like work visas.

And so they just elected Hamas. Yeah. And you're like, they're like, they are both the military and the government. It's just like, I was laughing. It's like it's like taking the Republican party and having them run every facet of society. What those guys are propped up by the Iranians who are Shia. So they find friends in every corner they can. And their big three is his Bala Hamas and the Houthis who through and through or winning on every front. So like, yeah, it's pretty crazy. Especially like when it comes to the Yemen situation

because Yemen borders Saudi Arabia. But then the Saudi Arabians are through and through. So Salah Hadid would roll in his grave. He would be so angry at how like his people about how his country performs. Everything. Yeah, and then he has bizarre stuff where it's like Qatar, which is literally just a city and then full of Sunnis, and they were caught sending money to Al Qaeda and ISIS. And they're like, oh, see,

to Al Qaeda and ISIS. And they're like, oops, you're gonna run. Oh my god. And they have like an Iranian, yeah, then they have Iranian support coming in. And then the Saudi military is on the ground there. And it's just, it's a fucking cluster fuck of a situation. And then you have someone like,

so you have the UAE who for, it's not like a Saudi Arabian led coalition against the Sunni Houthis. It's's a I want to say like they initiated it, but they have the money so they're financing everything and then giving like the UAE the ability to go and then fight stuff like tanks and helicopters and stuff. But the UAE also supports the side of the government and Libya that we don't support. So we're like bro. There's no friends there. It's a deal. A lot of it's it just goes by the hour. You're like, who called me a bitch today?

You. You're here. This is why I'm pro green energy all the time. I'm like, we just need to get off oil. We need to get the fuck out of there. It needs to be true. Because like once Saudi rate like Yemen, once they lost all the resources, nobody gave a shit about the yep. And that's why you have the revolution. Like, what do they have? because once Saudi-erape, like Yemen, once they lost all the resources, nobody gave a shit about that. Yep.

And that's why you have the revolution. Like, what do they have? Something like, I don't know the million exact counts, but they have something like a million people with like, cholera and dysentery, because this is the entire government collapse when all the resources went away. And then you have some Saudi Arabia,

it's probably like, fuck, that's coming for us, because there's only so much. And that's why them and then if you look at something like natural resources or renewable energy, nobody in the middle east has water. So the Iranians who are completely surrounded support the same, uh, Armenia who has natural race, they don't really have shit like through and through, but they're just a persecuted people, but they hate the Asheris and blah blah blah and it was like again my always question is like where are they getting water and then if you like look into like the rain is like the Florida man of the Middle East where it's like Florida man gets eaten by alligator going to take a shit in the river

and you're like what are humans below alligators over there? Beans, beans did a really good spin up for me on that because it was like, there's so much clutter in Iran. Even like if you, the Florida man examples perfect because he was talking about how not only are like, because you have the Besee who are like the home army, they're like the militia, and then you have the defense forces of Iran, but then you have the IRGC, which are completely, they're the guys who go out of Iran. Yeah, they're like the SS of Iran. Yeah, and so they actually, the IRGC goes and does things,

but then the defense forces and those forces within it, they still have holdovers from the Shah. Like they still have like, commandos and green berets, but they're so underfunded because they're not, yeah, he, because he speaks Persian Farsi, he can go on there like Persian Farsi YouTube. And he showed us, they're like, he's like, he knew, he was like, bro, the minute I saw the paragliders, I knew, because I ran loves paragliders and their green berets are like in uh fucking the little helicopter versions of the paragliders the fucking uh

gyrocopters it's fucking wild and they're so defunded that they have to repel off their barracks and they just like pugal stick fight and do like you know hula hoop jumps like jumping through Hulu hoop's on fight. It's the wildest shit, but somehow we're still struggling to keep up with these jubronies. It's, I, I don't even understand it. Like how- You get a guber actual running around.

Fuck you. Like, yeah, I'm like, like, seriously, you're like sitting there and you're wondering, like how the fuck did Israel get caught with its pants down to that kid? And it's just like, you know, the belly button show and underwear shirt tucked into their underwear like I won like fucking Damn it like in it was a I didn't see something that's in this again. This is on like Twitter, but I've seen it up lunch on Twitter that two three weeks ago Egypt called Israel to like hey, Hamas is gonna do something and Israel's like we watch them all the time

All they do is like run around and like do jumping jacks So I'm not gonna do shit and then they attacked and so Israel's like all right They did like a fulusious situation that like all right you guys have 72 hours of vacate the area if you're're left, you will be considered a combatant. And so they were like, you're not coming here. So I guess you're going to Egypt. And Egypt's like, no, I told you this was going to happen. You didn't listen to me.

I don't fucking want these guys. Sorry. Well, that, I was telling somebody I was like, because Jordan and Egypt have normal relations with Israel. They've pretty much accepted that they're going to be there. And I told them, I'm like, fucking Jordan's doing their bit. They've pretty much accepted that they're gonna be there and I told them Like fucking Jordan's doing their bit their help and their us ally making sure Israel doesn't fall Washington the North watching Syria. They're doing their part and

Someone sent me like well king of duelist said he wants a two-stage solution And I said well if he does a one-state where the fuck are the Palestinians gonna go? You think fucking you think he wants them? Because the Palestinians have tried to do a coup in Lebanon. They tried to fucking kill the king of Jordan and they tried and they support ISIS in the Sinai Glint Peninsula, which is why Egypt has a intelligence apparatus that talks to the Israelis

because they've been working together against these assholes. And everyone's like, they're innocent. I'm like, they're literally looking for people to kill right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's one of those, like, you don't want to generalize in like, stereotype where you're like, all Palestinians are the bad guy because you're like, yeah, you don't want to do that. But at the same time, you're like, well, they keep voting for these smokers. Yes.

You're like, it's at the end of an A.K. I'll give them that. Trueachers. Yes. You're like, well, it's at the end of an A.K. I'll give them that. True. True. Yeah. But it's one of those things like, I really, we talk about it like, and I was thinking about this like the Malaysia emergency. When we talk about that, we talk about how fucking brutal the British were at murdering

the food. They're insane. Yeah. But what are we seeing right now? We're seeing the exact same thing. They're telling the Palestinians give us a mass. We're going to keep brutally beating the shit out of you until you give us these guys and they're like, nah, nah, I think fucking what was it? It was like after 2006 and his ballad was like fooling around in Lebanon. And so Israel came to Hamas for like, we do a two party solution, we'll do that.

You went and stepped in, and they're like, we will work together. And Hamas was like, no. Yeah. And Israel's like, what do you want me to do that? Don't cry when I shoot a kid that shot at me. Yeah. Well, somebody was saying also they were like,

you know, they're toppling these buildings. And what they do is they do roof knocks, which are a small like bomb that they drop on the roof and they tell everybody you got one to ten minutes to get the fuck out of this building before we drop it and basically if you're in there and you've got a cache of weapons or you got a shithead with a bed down location you have enough time to grab your dogs grab your kids grab your belongings and get the fuck out of there which is why you're not seeing these huge death tolls because Israel has a...

They have an entire protocol for knocking these buildings down. And people are like, oh my god! Like, they're freaking the fuck west. It's it's not just fucking knocking down. Yeah, just keep going. You're not knocking down buildings. You're not knocking down innocent people. Like these are legit locations. And a big thing that I would encourage anybody to do who's fucking watching this for, you know, the kill porn or war porn or whatever you're doing, ask yourself what the hell was in that building?

I mean, if you have an insurgency, if you have these things going on, you can't carry weapons around all the time, right? So a big thing about what terrorist groups do is they put things in staging locations, right? They don't cross pollinate. They don't put the intel with the bed down location, with the cell phones, with the ID and the rocket factory and the you know Okay, let's let's actually number that out right you got the bed down locations

That's five houses probably for a terrace cell then you got the weapons cash which is six You've got the meeting location which is seven because you never want to go to a bed down location. That's your meeting location Then you've got your bomb making location which is eight and then you's your meeting location, then you've got your bomb making location, which is eight, and then you got your rocket location, which is nine, then you got your firing position, which is 10, and then you may have a couple back up, so that's 12 to extra buildings, right? And that's just a five man cell. That's not including, you know, come on, it's huge. How many did they attack with? I think it was like a couple hundred. That's 500 buildings. Jesus, man. And everybody's sitting here and they're freaking out about like, oh, they're taking out all these buildings. They're taking out entire city blocks, blah, blah, blah, blah. First off,

they got a second. A lot of them are the tunnels that Hamas has. I mean, shit, the amount of tunnel networks that are in, I mean, ISIS digs tunnels, ISIS dug tunnels. I mean, Hamas has tunnels, all these people have tunnels, but one of their favorite techniques to do is put shit under places like hospitals, mosques, schools. All right, so that is a huge point. So when I was with the aviation debt,

I think I've mentioned this before that, they were like, we need a good real world scenario against how to fight like an insurgent. I was like, Hamas, it was like, they put them in schools to put them in refugee camps. They have like, everything from like an anti aircraft weapon to man pads to anti aircraft guns, like missiles and everything, and they put it in like a school. And they're like, they know we won't, they won't shoot back at us because us are we is like, don't shoot that. You can't do that. But Israel's like, I'm getting rid of this. Yeah, it's a fucking mess, but yeah, they definitely do it.

I remember getting called to the side and they were like, it's cork and ball, it's a sort of reason. Is there a reason that you made such a heinous scenario? It's like, you asked for real world. It's like, how do you fix that? It's like, you're gonna blow up the whole refugee camp. I can't. Thank you, Manit.

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And then you're just like one layer deep, and you just ask, why? And just like that. But anyways, yeah, we got to talk more on like, I guess we could do that in like the second part, but like the Saudi Arabian angle, because New Korea's human rights violations are the absolute worst in the Middle

East when it comes to anything like that. Women can drive cars, they can't go out on come gloves. Everyone talks about the Iranians are so bad. I'm like, we work with the literal devil because they give us cheap oil. And then if we don't want to play games, they're like, I'm just going to raise the price and give two thirds of it to the Russians who have gas. And you're like, fuck me, man. I have this thing, and I don't know.

This is something that's like, I don't know if it's my autism, but this is like something I do no matter where I go. Where I go into cities. I get... He's reading all the license plates. He's just like, just before. I can't ever see him a grubber

where he just keeps writing down in the notepad that guy who cut him off, and so he finds it. Yeah. No, it did itself only. I had this thing where I go to DC, I go to Nashville and stuff, and my mind immediately just gets blown. I'm in awe because I know from real estate,

from just learning about economics and everything, I know how much money is in one city block. I'm like, dude, this is gotta be like 40, 50 million, all these cars, it's wild, the numbers are, this is Jewish, but, I feel the awe because I'm just like, there's so much money here, this is where is it coming from? I can't imagine stepping into Saudi Arabia

because number one, they have all our toys, right? Like, they have a page. They have, you know, like the new block of XF16s. They have Abrams tanks. And then at the same time, they have all these fucking cities that are like the future, right? Like, they've got like, if you speed,

a camera call, yeah. Yeah, one of those cities call, future situres something like London's trying to be transformed into one. There's like Chicago, I think, but yeah, that's like a real thing. They're ahead of us. And I can't even imagine,

like I think my brain would fucking break if I went there. And like you said, they're the evilest people in the world because it's like they have Everything they're they're they're the future and we're sitting here. We're defending and we're dying for them They know that I've served with a Saudi and intelligence school. He knew he told me He was like, why should I try when I know that the American military is going to protect Saudi Arabia like it did for Kuwait And so it's it's one of those things. Like if you sit back, you absorb it and you look at it,

you will realize exactly like you said, we're working with the fucking devil. Like this is insane. Why are we? Yeah, it's like, if you talk about it a lot, like the fight for survival, like the Iranians are fighting for literal survival. Or while the Saudis are like, I can do fuck all dude.

I'm not like this. Saudi means nothing to me. Because again, it goes back to like cultural dispositions. Like this tribe doesn't like this tribe, but they're all lumped together. And everything like that. But the Persians have always like held on to like the fact that they're Persian.

Like they go way back to like Xerxes. You know, like they never really went anywhere. to like the fact that they're Persian. Like they go way back to like, Xerxes. They never really went anywhere. But yeah, the Saudi Europe, they're a the hoot and a half man. And even I was at the airport and guitar, like four times in the last six months. And it's like, it's the airport of the future. The scene is huge. It makes Atlanta look like a joke. And then yeah, they mean they have in their prejudice they see you're an American they're like oh we have to do a retina scan and give you your social to get on the plane you're like the fuck they're like well I guess you're not flying

I was like I know where this is coming from it's it's those guys over there I mean I fucking you look at all the guys that could be the UFC fighters and they go over there. It's It's weird. I mean it I mean it I Catchings in Dagestanis don't really get along with them. Yeah, I mean it's they identify more with Russia than they do with like I don't say their own people, but like Yes, weird. I mean it's it's weird to like to see them go from like being like mountain farmers and fighters to like Basically Muslim Disney world and not a care in the world like yeah, yeah, I mean there's I mean like think about it you think about investing in the Middle East right like let's say we open a

Baghdad Toyota again Like that's that's a there was a there when I was in Djibouti there was like a catchy Djibouti which was like a Japanese company or something. Yeah, that bitch. That bitch was burned out.

I mean like, yeah, I mean, like opening one there too. It's there's so much risk involved, but like the amount of money you would need to start something up there. A couple grand. A couple grand, you could have a business in Iraq or whatever. Pretty much.

You don't need a million dollars plus to do anything in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, and any of these places. I mean, talking about the Horn of Africa Sudan, like Djibouti, that kind of entire neighborhood, because Iran can't directly, I don't want to say they want to risk this. They'll take their ships full like munitions and this is like speculation like take their ships full of munitions, give them to Somali pirates who then go to like Somali land and meet up with like who these that way. So a ran's like I didn't do it. Yeah. Like bark Simpsons and say to lie, bark like they're like I didn't do it. I didn't do it. But also you're like,

is that an F? Is that an F4? Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck? It has an M G3 and fucking Somali. Yeah, right. Like, I mean, that I was showing the guys that that there was one boat just one boat that the US Navy caught off the coast of Djibouti because that's why the Navy has a base there is to intercept that shit. One boat had like 500 AKs, a couple hundred RPGs, enough to supply like a company reinforced. Like a lot. Maybe two companies. Yeah, it's intense. Yeah, what the fuck am I doing? I mean, it's one of those

things like, like I said, you go to these big cities, you work your fucking nine to five at McDonald's and you're just like barely making $15 an hour. But meanwhile, I ran, it's moving guns worth millions. And that one shipment could change your life. And you're just like, what am I doing with my life? Like what the fuck?

Yeah, that's why a pregoge is so attractive, I think right now, because he went from a dishwasher to a child soldier liquidation, like, company owner. Yeah, but seriously, like, he was like 56. And that midlife crisis hit hard, like, you imagine. Instead of buying a Bugatti, he's like, I'm going to the car, I'm going to. I'm doing full send. I Bugatti he's like I'm going to the cargo Full send I just can't anymore just listen to hard send. I'm just doing it. He's just looking at Wojack memes like Yeah, what's what's that one page on YouTube? It's like the vibe is in Bobway or something like that that soy Jack guy He's just crying all the time. You're like I need to get my life together

So eject guy, he's just crying all the time. You're like, I need to get my life together. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Dude, but, yeah, I mean, that, that, how do you, but that's the cold war at a nutshell, right? Like we've talked for the last like 30 minutes about like all this crazy shit happening.

And it's two state actors. And I was gonna bring this up. There's one more there. And that was gonna bring this up, there's one more there. And that's Turkey. Turkey plays around two. And yeah. I mean, like, if you think about thing, I think you and I have said that before, where it's like,

well, Saddam Hussein, the greatest thing to ever happen to the Middle East, where you're like, for some reason kept all three of those parties. Like, at bay. Yeah, punching in all three directions. Which is like, and they had the, what, the third or fourth largest military in 1991, like, yeah, it was, yeah, it was third or fourth, and they got knocked all the way down to like, seventh or eighth, or some shit. Yeah, after, but after that, you're like, that's impressive.

Yeah. You're like, just as a country, you're like, this guy who, again, like a Libya situation, like multi ethnic, multi religion, multi cultural, and he's like, guess what? You're a rag, you know? No, I'm a coach. I'm a fucking rag. Right. Like, like, fuck hell, yeah.

He was, he wasn't about 23 and me shit. I bet he'd have outlawed that he's like, no, we're all Iraqi. Alhamdulillah. Fucking sit in there being like, no, we're all Iraqi. Fucking sit in there being like, no, I'm going to have a Kurdish birthday party. I'll send you day, mother fucker. Like, right. You don't want to. Oude, but then after like, so after he like, the Saudis were always

running around the Persians, but then the Turks entered the game after 9.11 because like, we fought Saddam up so bad we killed them. They killed them. And then we were there they were like oh I'm gonna adopt that role that says I can kill Kurds legally brother they go out of their way it'd be like a targeting meeting on ISIS or something and we'd like have to like generalize where Kurdish forces were because like if a Turk worked worked or walked in on any of that he'd be like What's that grid? What's what's that yellow? Square that Kurdish force what's that grid? Can I get that grid? Like you know what? I have a buddy who works at scent comedy's like we have to have special meetings just for the Turks to give him zero information

Like that's so funny. My brother is in a like my two brothers are in Syria right now with fifth group and the one works in Intel, the other works in calm, but the Intel guy hits me up and he's like, yeah, we shot down the Turk is thrown there pretty good. I can't find. I can't. Dude, we had one captain. I think he lost his fucking mind because he was like Sitting there and they were trying to do the iceous tunnels and he looked over at the the Turks and he goes you guys have stuff for that

Don't you you guys find tunnels all the time and Kurdistan how about how about you let us a hand and they're just like sweat like just oh shit They were like all right don't ask me to do stuff Well like how about you use your intel for actual intel fighting ISIS, dickless like fucking, not killing Kurds. But it's, they're a weird bunch. I mean, I was talking to Andrew, the cognitive high about this.

I was like, why, why the fuck is Israel sending weapons to Azerbaijan, who basically says that they're just a separate nation, they call themselves two states, one people. They're literally Turks. And they fucking sit there, send them all these weapons. And then it's discovered on the first day of the attack, these drones that Hamas and Hezbollah are using, 16 tons of equipment was sent by Turkey. And it's like, you mother fuck. You're're like what the fuck is this stop? Kilt like and then the Andrews like they're still sending shipments from Israel the Azerbaijan and I understand there's a Contractual obligation for companies and shit like that, but there's got to be a void clause man like you're basically

yourself in the fucking foot Yeah, I don't know what it comes with that. I mean, I know bodies who do kind of ITN stuff. And they always complain to like, we're just treating symptoms. We're not treating the illness. They're like, so what's the solution? Invade a ran into a rack, like seven.

Yeah, I forget, return to the table. Global War on Terror 3. Yeah, I wanted to stay. I wanted to stay a Lord of the Rings edition. I want Gulf War one go for two and then return of the King Isis. I don't want this to be star wars because if we do the seventh movie, it's gonna suck so much. And then we get like this weird spin off where we're fighting it like asher by jian alongside isis. You're like killing crew. We're fighting alongside. Yeah, we're fighting alongside like Taliban guys who were too bored of working at a desk. We like meet up with the Taliban. Who's another thing though?

Who's another thing? Since we left Afghanistan, the Iranians keep getting shot at by the Taliban. So the Taliban keeps like bum rushing checkpoints and stuff like that. So the Iranians made this one in the million, I think I've talked about this before, like a one in a million shot where they call Saudi Arabia, they called Turkmenistan, they called Pakistan and they called Turkey and they're like, bro, we got to contain these guys. And everyone I think was like, sounds good. You're in the front line, deal with it.

Like, in a rant, like, brother man. You're me, like, like the packet sannies were like, yeah, sure. Well, there's a little disregard of the fact that they harbored all of them. So, oh, dude, don't fucking, don't even get just start on that. Don't get me, like, you crane was like, the new Kush man. Yeah, Ukraine was like, go, the, the, the, the Ukraineaboos were going fucking while talking about this shit.

They were like, oh, the Taliban is fighting Iran, but Iran's in stronts to Ukraine. I'll hum do a la, the Taliban is good. And it's like, not only crazy was that. Yeah. Like, whatever one's like, because they made that funny PR team on Twitter. And they're like, actually, we were too harsh on you for 25 years. I feel like, what?

Fucking, well, so when it comes to the Taliban and we're talking about the Cold War, right, there are certain groups within Hellmand, which is Southern Afghanistan, Southwest Afghanistan, which is where the Marines War, right? There are certain groups within Hellman, which is Southern Afghanistan, Southwest Afghanistan, which is where the Marines were, the Royal Marines, like it's a hellhole. It's the worst, we never controlled some of those places. Never, never, can't bash and boil. They do, they were crazy. Even with our best guys on the case, we couldn't control them. They were Iranian supported. The Western Taliban, where the Italians were, they didn't do shit.

The Taliban were their own thing. They were self-sufficient. They could do what they needed to do to get their weapons and stuff. They hate Afghanistan. Not Afghanistan. They hate Iran. Pakistan is weird because they have the ISI which are definitely involved in a lot of crazy things when it comes to the Taliban but they are not in control of the Taliban.

There's these places called the tribal regions in northern Pakistan. The intel reports when Chad and I were there, oh my god, dude, I wanted to go so bad. I wanted to get my AK, ride my camel into these areas because like they have gem mines up there in these mountains. The movie, uh, Restrepo, that's, that, that area, once again, never controlled. They have mines, where earth mines, mineral mines, um, just these beautiful gemstones up there. And Pakistan can't control them. They're just, and they sell the gems. They sell the rare earth minerals. They sell heroin. They're super rich up there.

They do whatever the fuck they want, bro. And just to see that would be amazing. Because I'm sure it's like, it's like the wizard of Oz seeing behind the curtain. You can't contain them, the Taliban. They have money, they have ways of making money, they'll do their thing, but it's funny to hear that

like everyone's like, the Taliban are made of different sex and things I'm not gonna get into too much unless we need to, but it's just like, that is kind of a weird anomaly that if we see it. I've heard some people say like oh we pulled out of Afghanistan left all that equipment for the Taliban to use against Pakistan and Iran. I don't I don't think we're that smart, but I do think it's actually not at all.

It's a serious chance man. But it's working out that way like Pakistan and Iran have to contain that bullshit now. But somehow China's in Bagram now, and they're making money, but they- They showed up almost immediately. The Russians were doing the humanitarian airlift support. I mean, Kossak Gandhi was a first to find that one out. It was within like two weeks, so that was leaving.

And then, almost certain that the Chinese showed up and did like a death squad through all the Bagram, through like this is ours now. Well, they own 90% of the mineral rights. And it's really, yeah, that's why we're there for so long. Yeah, to stop this from now. For longing the terminal diagnosis of a cancer patient. Yeah, thank you. I mean, when they went through in the Belt and Road Initiative

and in to Pakistan, the reports coming out of there were that the Taliban surrendered, because they didn't give a fuck. Like the Chinese didn't give a fuck Like they just started murdering everybody and they were like how about this? How about you just pay us and will guard the road for you and they're like, okay? You speak money shut up and like So I wouldn't be surprised in the next five years if we start seeing

Rodes be built from China to Afghanistan to get that the fucking rare earth minerals out and start producing microchips because of Taiwan. But yeah, man, I mean, who we talked about, well, Jiu Pudi's got the R base there. There's a Chinese base there as well, literally right across the North. Next story. Yeah, next story. You go outside the American base, take a right, two blocks away, there's a Chinese base there as well, literally right across the next store. Yeah, next store. You go outside the American base, take a ride to blocks away. There's the Chinese like it's the right there. It is so funny. What's it the bizarre a couple times? And it was so funny to see like the Americans,

right? You know who's an American? You can see him. You see the French. And they see a bunch of like Chinese soldiers walking around and all of the, the locals like swarm the Chinese because I think they have money because they were like, the Americans don't have any money. I'm like, get them, I'll give you five dollars to beat that dude up. Yes, five dollars, go punch that Chinese guy the dick. Yeah, when I, they already tell you this, I say this in the podcast when I was leaving, you should be doing this last time, that I,

it was like 11 o'clock at night and there's a sea of people this in the podcast when I was leaving a Jebini this last time that I It was like 11 o'clock at night and there's a sea of people They're only letting like one person in the terminal at a time and this guy was like hey American and like grab my bag and sprint it inside and like took it and I was like dude Give me my fucking bag back. He's like it's $15. I was like it's like dude. I have like $500,000 in jibbutian Frank's it's like take this and he's like no it's 20. I was like, dude, I have like $500,000 in jibbuty for anx. I was like, take this and he's like, no, it's 20. I was like, fuck her. So I gave him 20 bucks. And then he immediately walked up and sort of like harassing the Chinese.

I'm like, I just paid for that. That's good. That's good. Hell yeah, I'm not even upset. You know what, here's 40. Go mess with that guy. You have fuck with him. Right.

He's going to take their bag. It's like, you know what they look like. Just go get him. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, Toss they look like just go get him He's like tossless here go get him like Jesus, so yeah, and then you have Don't the who owns the pet or not the Panama Canal Jesus the Suez Canal Is it the the Chinese now because I know Egyptians the Egyptians do. Okay. Yeah, that's the whole reason the Suez warm was for. Yeah. Jesus. Okay. It's so funny. Lebanon is basically a failed state.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, that book, for all the listeners out there, read the book Black Swan because it explains the Lebanon conflict so perfectly. It's, you've run it. It's 20 years long and it's not, you can't just attribute one war and be like, yeah, they're all going to be like that. They're like, Lebanon was multi-ethnic, multicultural, multiracial, it was multi-religion. It was just so much happening at once. It was like that Black Swan, they're like, boom boom, doing ripple effect 20 years of conflict, his ball isn't charged now. You're like, cheers.

I was like, I mean, at this point, I was telling my buddy Daniel, I was like, the key to a lot of this is that people kind of need to understand like one, the history, but this thing about humanity where it's like,

some people are gonna have to die. Like you can break, if you walk into a room of like Palestinian and Israelis, and you say, okay, we need to come to the table and we need to talk. 90% of people are going to be like, okay, we need to come up with a solution. Let's work on something. 10% are going to sit there and they're going're gonna go okay, you know, I Know and then you're gonna pull up one of these bad boys and you're gonna go we need to talk and about two percent are gonna sit there and they're gonna be like no But they're just gonna sit there and Yeah, they'll they'll actually die which, you know, the Hamas and-

I'll do one too, give me a second. Yeah. Haha. Yeah, I was like, yeah, do that. Anyways. But the point being is like only like 2% of people, or two or 3% of people are gonna wanna die for the like Hamas or Hezbollah.

Yeah. But because they're willing to die in fight, they control the fucking situation. And you just gotta. That's it, that's what you're talking about. You gotta eliminate that. Then you gotta go, yeah, say to anybody else. Anybody else wanna die for this?

Yeah, right. Like you said, that meme you said of like Hamas sitting there, like I'm a consenting adult and I wanna die for my country. And the Israeli guys like, I'm a consenting adult, and I want to die from my country. And these really guys, like, I'm a consenting adult, and I agree to your consent. And you're like, why is this a discussion? Like, I think it's one of those,

it's not like, I think it's like a post-World War II, like syndrome, where everyone's like, we don't want to do that again. Yeah. But then everyone just boil over to like low level conflicts. But it's like, it's not 10 people today, but it's like one, but tomorrow might be six, and then in six months

it might be 235,000. I think we're here for Israel. They're like, let's just punch down really fucking hard because our economy is so small. They're like, I'm gonna hit you so goddamn hard. Yeah. They're like, just get it over with. And it's like putting a band-aid on a bullet hole. They're like, ah, sorry.

Dude, it's, I mean, but yeah, you're right. It's the World War II Center. Nobody wants to do it anymore. And the problem is, it's like, I don't, you know, the, everyone's a Nazi. Everybody's Hitler, everybody's Stalin thing. It's, of course. Those guys were remarkable in a sense that they were able to convince a population to go from like two to three percent willing to die to like brother, like what 10, 20, 30% of the male population, they just siopped into, you know, and that's remarkable from a siop's marketing standpoint, not anything else.

But like only like 2% of Palestinians Palestinians really want to die for Hamas. Really want to die for Haspola. I'd be willing to bet you most Jews. I'm one of them. Let's have a conversation. Let's solve the issue. But then you've got that one guy in the back who's like, I don't want to talk to you.

Well, come here consenting adult. Let's have a... You can cling from jaws, scratching the chalkboard is like I am a solution Like but we don't want to kid no no no no no war no nothing. Well, he wants it. He wants it right there He's yeah, right like god. It's so fucking funny But that's the other thing is like if you're part of that two or 3% as we talk about this cold war coming back to the main point of this It's so easy to get money. It's so easy to get weapons All you have to do is raise your hand to Iran the Saudis or if you're on our side the CIA or special forces and be like

I'm willing to I mean look at the Kurds the Kurds are a great example They're always willing to raise their hand when we come around. They're a good time girl They know daddy's coming home like how many times have we decided? The curds are a great example. They're always willing to raise their hand when we come around. They're a good time girl. They know daddy's coming home. Like how many times have we decided? The curds are like a weird anomaly where it's like the largest internally displaced people on the planet.

There are people without a country, but also like they're like borderline communists. So it's like, why are they, everyone's like, oh, why are they branded? It's like a terrorist organization. Like what they are. Yeah it's like, why are they, everyone's like, oh, why are they branded? It's like a terrorist organization like what they are. Yeah. Like I get why they're doing it. But also it's like I can see why the US is like very hesitant to commit to be like 100% because you're like, yeah, I don't need that. I don't need that flowing over to myself. So it is so funny to see guys in fifth group who,

you know, they go and they fight ISIS and they get a YPG flag They're like oh man they're my doing my brother in arms. I love my coat and my guy They fucking come over here. Give me that falafel like fucking it. It's so funny But then you see the old guys and my dad is like fuck them curts I've worked with them three times since the 90s. Fuck them, fuck them, fuck them. He's like, every time we leave, they side with the Russians and Iranians. He goes, we leave and the Iranians and the Russians move in and they tell them everything.

Like, oh, he has two kids. He lives here. This is his credit card. I took it from him and he's just like, we use them, they use us. And there's no friends in the middle. It's a love hate is borderline. it's a hate hate relationship like what part of beat what part of BDSM are you into today like it's getting cold outside. I was talking

to Sam Black from popular front and I was telling us like I'm listening to punk rock a lot. He's like cold weather is BDSM weather embrace it. It's like that's just the Middle East man. There's ballgags and paddles and wigs and chains. It's like Jesus Christ. What is even going on over here? Do you think it's funny though like in America? So you get like, I don't know. So on the like the one camp you have like queers for Hamas right? They're like, uh-huh, you know, which is like, look one layer deep. Just go to their Wikipedia. Just do your favorite for five minutes. Go to human rights atrocities at the very bottom.

They the Hamas charter. Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's a huge thing. And then you have the other side where it's like random guys are like, I'm gonna go fucking die for Israel. You're like, God. You're like, what? You're like, what? Do USS Liberty, how many times I've heard USS Liberty in the last six, seven days? That's my six day war. It's hearing USS Liberty a hundred times.

And like my- Yeah, remember the Liberty. Yeah. A bunch of fucking firstsons. Never talked about that. No, the Liberty. No, we never talked about that. Yeah, so the Liberty guys, it was a US intelligence

like spy collection ship off the coast of Gaza Strip. And it was during the 16th war I think. And so Israel came in and just clean house. They were clean in house. But then we overheard, as the story goes, we overheard Israel committing genocide. And so Israel's just blurship up. And they were like, oh, I thought you were Egyptian.

It was like, like, 126 sailors or something like that. In America's, go ahead, sorry. America's like, America's like, dude, what the fuck? And Israel's like, I didn't do it. They're like, yes, you did. They're like, all right, I did, but I thought you were somebody else. I'm like, I'm American flag-flat. I'm just imagining them tuning into that radio frequency and some guy just being like, you know, there's just like, we are Fubby. Yeah, we're burning the village down the women in shithead and they're running and they're like, we are killing them all. We are

slaughtering them and then all of a sudden you just hear, holy fuck, like who's on this frequency oh shit shit like fucking it fucking oh god it's like joining a telegram channel and laughing and hidden every time something happens or just like haha yeah boy this is some poor native Nevada and just like oh my god christ almighty right what are you listening to the Jews are killing Arabs like who's on this frequency oh this is the USA's I'm coming. Yeah, so then so then now you have like those like, you know like right wing like right toyed kids

So they're just like remember the liberty blah blah blah. Fuck Israel But they're also like the same guy who'd support like neo-nazis for some reason today or supporting Israel the kill Palestinians They're like like this doesn't make any sense to me. I was telling Andrew that. I was like, because like he was posting about our mania, I was like, I hate this war, I hate everything about it. There's these wars are stupid. Nobody on, like all the, all the rules of like

foreign policy and international relations has just been ripped, thrown in the toilet, wipe your ass with it, burn it, none of it matters. We've got, we've got Nazis in Ukraine that are supporting Hamas, that are also maybe supporting Israel, that are also supporting, and it's just awful. All of it's, and you got Christian guys being like Jerusalem Bruehlong's to Christianity. It's like, okay, well then why didn't you support Armenia as the one Christian nation? Well, let's good little complicated. Like just say, like,

Lane to me, is that crushed two beers over their head and do it, give you a stone cold stunner? They're like, nah, I know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no way. Bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap. I do it so bad. The Middle East is so fun.

Like if you give, like I feel so bad for the amount of like the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people who got a degree in Middle Eastern studies that are chain smoking right now, just like. Oh my, my fucking, I'm one of them. My professor is college. He had his doctorate with a dissertation on the effects of OPEC.

He was literally a OPEC consultant. He taught about like oil, the gas industry, all about the Middle East. He was our main professor. I fucking hate all of this. I've given up. I told my dad I was like, I think it was like the 2016 presidential election.

I stopped taking all of my degree seriously. I was just like, everybody's a political science expert. Every four years it changes, I'm done. I fucking, whatever. I need to become a STEM major or something. I just want money. Fuck it. I can't.

Sure. Oh, God, it's so fun. I feel so bad for them because you have like 20 years of people getting middle-eastern studies degrees. And now, number one, we don't fight there anymore. So what a what a kick rock situation number two. They're like, and then you have to like listen to your like, why no ants at Thanksgiving complain about how great is really. You're just like, you're just like, if you just give me a chance, if you would just read these books, like, you're sitting like, you're sitting in the front room and

you're like, pick up a pack of mobile reds and you throw a map in the table, like get the vlogger to be five hours. I can explain everything. Damn, dude. So, so we did, so we did that. We, you know, and I was talking to the guys about this in the discord. I was like, you know who's the funniest one? Is uh oh oh oh and that's it. We're gonna go to the bonus episode on the Patreon. Look guys, if you're here, why not leave us a review, give us a follow on Instagram and go check out the Patreon. Three bucks gets you all the extra bonus episodes, six dollars, get your access to the discord and ten dollars gets you added to the game nights and all that fun stuff that we do on the weekends.

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