Kitbag Conversations - Kitbag Conversations Episode 1: The Original Bag Boys

Episode Date: March 6, 2023

Hello Everyone,  Cody and I have rebranded Croatoan Report into Kitbag Conversations. Our new direction is to standardize content that is both easily digestible and accessible outside of META’...s grasp. A few of these include: -Retooling the podcast to essentially be “cum town for analysts” with regular releases on Sundays and bonus episode Wednesday on patreon. -Publishing a bi-weekly substack with our lovely analytical hot takes while keeping low level updates on instagram/twitter/etc -Host a book club, monthly game night/Q&A, national level pop up meet and greets -Video format deep dives -Merch -And whatever other sexy topics come to mind We appreciate your support and remember the day ones. Choose your future, choose life. Follow the new pages inside the link tree.  (intro song: summer - a2- aquabiking) (Logo and art by @artwith_ben on instagram)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Arenas Kevin, Aya, Sasha, Yvonne, Matisse, Demisog, Demisatisse, Aziz, 68, disparate. Hey everybody, welcome to KitBad Conversations. This is the rebranded Crotone Report Podcast. Today we're just, myself, Cody, we're going to be elaborating on why Crotone's sunset, what the future for our little community is, and why we are the villains of the infotainment community. Infotainment community? Infotainment, yeah, it's, I can't even, Jesus Christ, bro. So, yeah, some guy's probably sitting in his car right now, going to work on a one-hour drive,
Starting point is 00:01:10 and he's like, why'd my favorite Instagram page get canceled? So, I don't, I don't know how to tell. You're not in love? You're not in love? Like, we got from people coming out there, we're like, really love the aesthetic of the page. Hope the podcast doesn't go away. You guys save really cool things. We're like, oh yeah, just go against the grain, shave against the grain once and watch the razor bumps show up. Oh, God. And that's, that's literally 90% of it, dude. That's all that happened. We were like, hey, maybe Russia might have a chance.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And then everyone was just like, no, no, no, no. Fucking full-on authors with, like, master's degrees getting TED talks. Like, I perceive that Russia in, after the mud season, might do another human wave attack. And everyone's like, good God, what a fucking, he's the next Jesus Christ. Or you sit down and read any book on Russian history. They're like, number one, they always kill off their minority population first before they send in their own guys. And then number two, there's no H plus one, adjust fire.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It's one year down. That didn't work. It's like, oh, 300,000 casualties. Pretty good. We're good halfway there, boys. Like, God, who was it? Jake or AFV was saying that? Who said the 500,000? No, it was a lethal-minds journal. Graham over there was telling me, it's like, because he got a degree in Russian studies. He's like, oh yeah, they don't even consider quitting until they have 500,000 dead.
Starting point is 00:02:36 That's right. That's not even casualties. It's like, oh my God, that's, for an ancient population of 149 million, I mean, women did they get, there's eight million displaced people? I gotta say, there's three million fighters that are just hiding. Dude, that's insane. We lost 5,000, I think, somewhere around like 5,000 or 6,000 in Afghanistan and all of America's like, my God, we need to build another Vietnam wall.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And Russia's just like, no, we need 500,000 to consider quitting. There was all those bigger, like, those Twitter accounts and Instagram accounts going, it's day four in the war in Ukraine. And they've already lost more people than America lost post 9-11. They're like, it's not even the same kind of war. It's like, the Russians fought in Chechnya twice and I think sustained 10,000 casualties each. Yeah. It was KIA, it was KIA, not even casualties.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Those numbers are fudged anyways. And then you have missing, dude, Russian wars are like crazy because I remember we went on like that, like back on Krodato and we were like, you guys need to read the Wagner Wiki page. It's out of this world. It's the same thing with like the Chechen war. It's like, okay, 10,000 dead, 50,000 missing, they're like missing. The Russians just rode off 50,000 dudes. Is there a question mark?
Starting point is 00:03:53 They used to be Soviets, we're just going to chalk them up. Chechens would be ours anyways. That's where they are. It's so bad. It's so funny. It is. And if you're in your car and you're listening or whatever, all I can say is, bro, this whole thing about the land that shall not be named, fighting Russia,
Starting point is 00:04:16 is a radioactive waste dump on Instagram, Twitter, and our engagement dropped right off the face of this earth. I don't know how many times you and I talked about the fact that like your followers would go to like, it stayed at 24.3 for like eight months and you'd post something and it would go up like a thousand and then delete. And then even I would have one point. It was a, it was gaining like the account that we were running got 800 followers a week and lost 802 followers a week.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I'd be talking to you and you'd be in the fucking chat and you'd be like, Hey man, you see that story. I'd be like, I didn't see your fucking story. You haven't posted a story in like five days. I'm like, and then it just auto unfollowed you like every other week. I'm like, mother fucker. Well, it was really funny for the listeners out there. We announced a kit bag conversations and within three days we had what 12% of the Crow
Starting point is 00:05:12 Telling account migrated. Yeah, those that viewed the video. Which is number one. Thank you, Cody, for all those edits. They are there. Shout out to AFV for being a good sport. I fucking love Jake. I love it because like, I'm, I'm, for those that don't know, I'm home all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'm a disabled veteran. So I just get to shitpost all day and hang out with the crew. And so when Matt's at work, Jake's at home. He's done it work. So I just like, Hey, Jake. And we just shitpost until Matt gets off work. But I don't know. He's like, he's so, he's so smart too.
Starting point is 00:05:54 He's like 23. He's young. Yeah. That's what happens when you beat your kids. They learn tanks. No. Now, dude, AFV is the best because like, it'll be like the difference between tanks will be like one sensor on the turret and he'll see it.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And he'll be like, that's a G 72 BA. And some guy in the comments will be like, well, there's the wind sensor. He goes, no, that's not a wind sensor. That's a, that's a prick E six antenna. And it's like, oh, wow. And he does all of this just for the comment thread to be like Russian sympathizer. And I'm like, God, He posted one the other day with a, it was like an anniversary.
Starting point is 00:06:32 He's like, Oh, it's been one year since the war in Ukraine. And he posted a, like a T 72 with a wide boy Z on the front and all these comments were like Russian sympathizer, you Putin shill. And the funniest thing was not the comments, but the people who replied to the comments they're like, aha Ukrainian flag in bio opinion and valid. And it's just a civil, it's just so toxic. It's just like, let, hey, let our little boy play with the tanks. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It's just this little, little British boy. I liked her. He's a bunch of sympathizer. Leave him alone. Just leave him alone. I mean, I expected more because you know, you and I have both posted pictures of with the, the Telenyashka on, it was like, I expected more hate from that one. But I mean, I mean, I live in the DC area and I wear that thing in public all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And instead of, you know, in the nation's capital where they should know what this comes from and what this is, kids ask if this from call of duty. And I'm like, yeah, at least you kids know. My brother-in-law, he was the PAO for the Hunter and First Division. So he went all over Europe. And when I got that for Christmas and I threw it on. He's like, is that a Polish P T-shirt? I'm like, it might as well be, but if you're not tracking on the podcast, the Russian Marines
Starting point is 00:07:52 and Airborne Forces have a T-shirt that are like eight bucks and they have horizontal blue lines, red lines for Spetsnaz. And I think black is another one, but they have all different. Yeah. Yeah. Just put that bad boy on. It like makes you look three times bigger and listen to some. You tuck it into your skin tight booty shorts and you're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. I just walk around and just squat as low as possible and I make sure everyone's lucky. Oh, shit. It's so funny. When your balls fall out of the liner, that's how that's how you're alpha, not by your Jim Shark, not by your Dwayne Rock Johnson. We're got a tire.
Starting point is 00:08:32 The cheapest, thinnest shorts, no compression shorts. Put your balls in. Free flow, you know. Yeah. Let those balls. Hello. Ask to grass squat and let everybody see that ball outline. And then pose in the picture, post it on social media.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Feel like having an ass fatter than your girlfriend is more important than doing 20 crunches in a row. Skinny kids with, skinny kids with ads or like fat chicks with tits. They don't count. But yeah, I guess for everyone going forward, we're really, we're going to take a huge break on Ukraine because simply it's not worth it. I mean, it's, it's, it's fun. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:09:15 It's like, uh, like, uh, who was, there was a couple of pages, I will name any pages, but there's all the videos of the Russian Marines respawning all across Bach mood. They were like, yeah, 1200 guys made a head on chart across a landmine field and everyone died. And then a video showed up like 45 minutes later and them still live on the other side of town. We're like, it's not, how do you identify these guys? You can, you can get a Russian VDV helmet online for like 500 bucks.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Oh, yeah. Let's take it all. Yeah. Let's take it all. Yeah. I think the ones with blood stains have like a little discount out there. Like, yeah. Damage, damage condition.
Starting point is 00:10:00 His brain is in it. I did. I don't. It, like you said, it's fun. It's easy. There's so much going on every day. But the problem is, is that if you don't blindly support the, the one side in everything, like, not just a little bit, but I'm talking everything.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Like Ukrainians fart gold and shit rainbows. It's like, so like, you can't question it. You can't think about it. Just blind support. So I think we should like, totally just go, we should be like all con us too and just look at China. That's all we should do. We should just, he's, I love him because he's like, I don't know anything.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Activities in Africa. Oh dude. Oh God. That'd be dope. That's what we should do. And then we'll like, everybody give us money on the Patreon so we can go to Africa and like hang out, just like catch the kit bag conversations in South Africa. Look, this is executive outcomes.
Starting point is 00:10:56 We're going to be hanging out with them for a week. Holy shit. You're doing AIDS patient on a bike. You're like, swing on over here, pal. Oh yeah, for that though. I mean, was Alcon today posted that stories like, Hey, you know, South Africa is on the brink of civil war. They've had a civil unrest for three years for economies floundering.
Starting point is 00:11:18 A lot of people forget this, but they have like the highest AIDS concentrated AIDS population on the planet. And it's something like 40% of their country. Why? I'm going to look it up. Um, they're raw dog and do they're not good Catholics. Um, he's that's what stops it. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Like we just hold that AIDS population. Yeah. Here we are. South Africa AIDS population. It is, um, 15% of the population has full blown AIDS, but that's not HIV. You got that playful little toy, you know, you get in college. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I was just thinking, I mean, I sent it to Alcon earlier.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's like, Hey, you thought America letting in 100,000 Ukrainians was bad. I don't think we want AIDS running around again. So, Well, I mean, that was weird. Like the AIDS epidemic in the 80s was weird because like nobody, it was like, nobody knew like Princess Diana hugging an aged patient was like, Oh, she touched a lever. What the fuck's going on, bro? Instant ban right here.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Remember Fauci was like, just put him in camps and let him die off. Yeah, that's right. He's that's how long he's been in the game is like Fauci's been and like, like you said, instant ban. We're not talking about the magical disease. We're going to Fauci's been in the game for like 40, 50 or actually he's like 80. Isn't he? So he's been a doctor.
Starting point is 00:12:49 What did AIDS get to be like mid 80s? Yeah. And nobody under Magic Johnson got AIDS. And then it was like, my God, it donates blood, by the way. Yeah. Cause he injects money. That's how you keep people at South Park. French, the French CDC came out and had a cure for AIDS back in like the early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:13:06 They're like, yeah, as long as you have enough money, it's, you know, you can do it. And America's like, no. Watch this AIDS and cocaine war on drugs. What a hilarious topic. Before we were like, yeah, here's the current situation side of Kiev. And then a year later, real like AIDS. People seem to forget that. Like that's what we should do.
Starting point is 00:13:28 We should go down the 1980s rabbit hole. Like I'll do like cocaine, dude, like the DEA in the 80s. You ever, you guys watch Narcos season one? That is such a, oh my God, such a great show. Kiki Camarena Miami Vice. Yeah. Miami Vice. That's me.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Like the CIA killed a DEA agent in Mexico. That happened. That fucking happened. And like, yeah, that's a, maybe like it'd be like a special focusing for like once a month for like special focus, boom, cocaine. Yeah, we just, that would be fun. Just like you follow our page. One week we're doing cocaine next week.
Starting point is 00:14:07 We're doing AIDS. And then the next week we're hanging out with all con in the Pacific. Like this is a triad. We're talking about, you know, how a Chinese chemical plants are chemically castrating New Zealand children. They're turning the fricking frauds gay. Alex Jones came out and he was like the government's after my $2,000 cat. They were like, he is the funniest man on the planet.
Starting point is 00:14:30 He is. When you take the snippets, like when he starts going on, like, are we the Alex Jones? Are we the Alex Jones of the infotainment? I think, I don't, I don't think we are. Who do you? Intel Slava. If there's some guy I can just talk to be like, Hey, man. Why?
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's like glory to Intel, huh? Like, what's your credentials here? Bucko. Yeah. Oh, what about a, I mean, if we could just start honing in on AI voice chats. That's what the money is. These new presidential AI things are literally all I live for. The president's growing down and playing CS go heals this nation.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Person favorite was a, it was, you know, Clinton, Biden, Trump, Bush and Obama all playing, they're all playing together, you know, they're all shooting the shit. And four of them are I call the duty model warfare too. They're like, yeah, this was the shit in Biden's just on Halo two. He's like, I don't see you guys. Joe, they are curious. They are healing the country. The soul has been revived.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. I think it's great because you get to laugh at each age side. And my favorite, it's, it's, it's Trump. Trump's so zoned in the whole time. Video games though. I mean, warfare to really sigh up the planet and to thinking that Russia could. Oh, one. Invade the continental U.S.
Starting point is 00:16:07 What a great segue. What a great segue. I was talking about this with a buddy and he was just like, I kind of want the Russians to win as an underdog redemption story. I played you guys when I was nine. Please do your job. I was, I was reading the comments on who was it all con. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Because he keeps snipping me that bastard. He, somebody wrote like, oh, we keep on. We, we overplayed the Russians. We overplayed the Russians. We, we made them seem like this big, big scary thing. And it's like, I'll ask you, did we overplay the Russians before this? Were they actually good or were they shit the entire time? What do you, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:16:58 I think if you just wanted to be like very liberal minded on it and just like a like a loose assessment, like, yeah. But then he actually looked at the, yeah. Oh yeah. Well, it's like, you need a big bad. And like you said in the group chat, like nobody wants to fight the Chinese and the knee deep and swamp and muck and gunk and everything like in Vietnam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Open tank warfare in Eastern Europe. Yeah, that's cool. It's kind of whatever it wants to do. The Russians were the bad guys before. Just carry that big bad over. But I mean, I was looking at an article from Rand, Rand Corporation last year. Oh God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:29 They're good, but they were talking about. They're weird. Then we go ahead. Anyway, but they were talking about the force structure and they're like, yeah, everyone like US military intelligence and CIA and everyone really focused on like what weapons they have, but they went, did everyone just forget that they're like one third conscripts or a one third contract, two third conscripts? And they're like, yeah, they did that modernization period between like, oh wait, where they
Starting point is 00:17:58 went, hey, conscription does not work. Yeah. 2012. Then they did that shock force into Crimea did a really good job with that. Disabilize Ukraine. Try to overthrow the government didn't do too great, but hey, you know, whatever. But they were like, yeah, their economy. If you look at it in terms of if your economy is always in a recession and you throw sanctions
Starting point is 00:18:19 on it, that's not really going to do much because you're already in a recession. And so yeah, but they were just talking about the force structure of they're like, yeah, I mean, you could have a VDV division, but then you have two divisions where the conscripts behind it. Yeah. So that's what they were talking about. And it was like, oh, actually, yeah, if you look back two years, that makes sense because if you were reading about in the second half of 20, was it 2021?
Starting point is 00:18:43 The Belarusians were coming out saying like the Russians are fucking assholes. They roll up, they steal everything. All they do is drink our booze and they had sex with our women. They're like, these guys are very annoying. We don't want to work with them. We don't want to work with them. But then you're like, oh, those were the conscripts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Those weren't the, those weren't the Marines. That wasn't the VDV or the Spetsnaz. Those guys were doing their own things, writing a battle plans and everything, but it was those conscripts just going like, yeah, man, what's going on? So in terms of like overplaying the Russians at like a loose statement. Yeah. Yeah. Because you know, you never actually saw them in theater.
Starting point is 00:19:14 You never saw them perform. We haven't seen any F 22s flying over Ukraine because goddamn, we don't want to lose one, you know, because how does that actually perform in combat? So that's, you can shoot balloons down all day, but it's. Yeah, we didn't have 16. It was its first or like whatever. I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:19:31 But yeah, it's just like looking at that. So it's like, you could say that, I mean, we talked about in the group chat that looking in terms of like the American military where it's like, gee, what was such a weird time to be an American, an American military man, because it's like, Hey, you're fighting two wars. Yeah. Fighting multiple counter-insurgencies in Africa in the Middle East. You are also supposed to have enough forces to hold a two-front war against the Russians
Starting point is 00:19:53 and the Chinese at one time. And you're like, America did a pretty good job. Like, I mean, yeah, we burnt our guys out and then everyone who was good quit and left. But hey, that was 20 years worth of comp. That was 20 years. 20 years. Yeah. 20 years.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah. So it's like, you got what? How many people come into the military for four years? Like a very conservative number of like what? Let's say 20 million people serving the military in 20 years. It's got a lot. It's a lot of guys who know what they're doing to get out and go back to the workforce. It's not really how it works in the Russian mindset because they get conscripted for two
Starting point is 00:20:21 years. They get like a very infantry job. And if they want to be an intel guy or like an intel officer, like a comms guy or something, that's when they're like, all right, well, you have to re-list. And so when you have cannon fodder, like the conscripts are like, all right, Central Asians, get out of here. So it's a different way of thinking. So it's like, Hey, yeah, they fought in Syria.
Starting point is 00:20:43 They did pretty good. I mean, they pacified some things, but that was also Wagner. So you're like, yeah, it was asymmetric. That's right. So you're like asymmetric. They were doing really well, taking all the lessons we learned in like Afghanistan and Iraq and applying that. And Syria doing a really good job.
Starting point is 00:21:00 But then conventional, I think, I think everyone just forgot how to fight conventional. Yeah. Everyone's beat that ass. He was like, dude. Yeah. I know that was a long-winded. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:16 You think I don't, so that's the thing. Like you said at the end, that's, that's what gets it. Right. It's like the entire time we've been fighting Russia, it's been asymmetric. It's been Wagner in Africa and like Spetsnaz, but mostly Wagner. And then in Syria, there was a little bit of VDV. There was some Spetsnaz, but once again, mostly Wagner. And everybody and their mother is like, remember that time that America slapped some Wagner
Starting point is 00:21:40 in Northern Syria? It's like, yeah, that was fifth group. I was in that unit. I heard the whole story. One time. Yeah. One time. And it was like, and then you're like, what about the amount of hit packages the Russians
Starting point is 00:21:51 put on us in Afghanistan? Oh, yeah. They were like, Hey, remember that one? Like, dude, that was, we were, I mean, yeah, that's a whole different story. Right. Yeah, we smacked ass and fucking Northern Syria. But it's like, you're saying like Afghanistan was everybody coming for a sucker punch. Like Iran was giving the Taliban shit.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Russian Chechens were training the Taliban. You had Pakistani ISI running around in there. And we beat them all up. And we could talk about the GWAT thing in a minute here. But like, like you're saying, like, did we overestimate them? It's like, I don't know. It's kind of weird. Cause like, like I said, that one comment was like, oh, I always assessed it as low.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I always thought the Russians were low. I always, the guy was like, but heard about the fact that he called this and nobody cared, which is, you know, that's Intel baby. That's show base, baby. Nobody gives a fuck. It's a, you know, if the mission goes well, go fuck yourself, but it goes wrong. They're like, Hey, to what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Hey, Intel nerd. What? Yeah. And you can God help you if you're right. Like never tell the commander. Hey, told you so. You want to get locked in a broom closet with a flashbang? You're like, I'm just going to go, I'm going to go destroy my liver.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I'm going to kill myself slowly over the next four years. When I was, when I was getting my commission, uh, I put in Intel at the top and I, I was distinguished, whatever. I was a really good cadet. Let's just leave it at that. I was a distinguished military graduate and my fucking professor of military science. He's like, bro, let me tell you something. The two most thankless jobs in the entire military structure are Intel and signal because
Starting point is 00:23:33 if the internet is working, nobody talks to the signal guys, but if it is, isn't working and everything's down, he's like, your head is going to go out that window and he's going to threaten to throw you off the fifth story. And so the internet comes back on. Same with Intel. When you're right, you can't say I told you so, but when you're wrong, dude, they're going to be slam dunking on your ass. They're going to be who's the, who's the Intel guy now?
Starting point is 00:23:56 We should just fire him. Can we trade him? Can we trade him? I have a, I have a funny story about that. So it's like, I was in the Marine Corps where they were restructuring when they took like 18 MOS's and condensed them into like 12. So all of calm became really shit. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah. It's not a big, it's not a big, I mean, it's not a big branch to begin with. There's like 180, 180,000, their current structure. I mean, I don't want to go into the weeds about Marine Corps doctrine or anything, but their current structure was something like, if it dips below 180,000, they cannot operationally do their job and fight two wars at once. And they're pushing for 150,000. I don't know what their plan is.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Hey, it's not my problem, but they condensed like common to radio operator and everything else. So everything else was like, you know, they used to call them wire dogs, but they were like, their whole job is to line the wire in a skiff or in a compound or something around the field. They were like, Oh, now you're a data programmer. And so they would just walk around. It was so fun.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I remember like one time we were doing a mission. Like, Hey, a zipper went down. We really needed this to get fixed. Like absolutely. So this chick came down, like press something, the entire back side of the ship's like zipper went off and she's like, Oh, she disappeared. I was like, I would have hit too. She didn't know any of what she was doing.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Oh my God. That is fucking awesome. Just like, yeah. Dude, yeah, you're like a satcom guy. And now you're satcom radio signal. You're fucking internet. You're like firewall. You're everything that's radio.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I don't understand how the internet works, nor do I understand how the radio works, but you're going to do all of it. And it's like, I just wanted free college. But no, I was going to say, somebody was saying, they were saying we over, we over estimated the Russians and I'm sitting here. I'm like, dude, does everybody remember January and December when the entire United States Air Force and Navy was just like, come on, we got to get these stingers and javelins and stinger.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Like we were like sweating trying to bring javelins and stingers and iglas. And like they were in key. They were just handing out a case. They're like, grab a gun to go. Yeah. Everybody's favorite topic of mine. That's just good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Well, we have that is one thing that kind of like chaps my ass is because everyone goes like, oh, day 372 of Putin's three days. Shut the fuck up. He never once said this. Putin does not give a fuck. It's like, that was the US. That was the US intelligence space. It's like, hey, you got three days before you should, you know, back it up.
Starting point is 00:26:35 But then it, you know, it's when it comes to like, so I understand what you're saying about like overestimated them in the front half of like, yeah, we were jumping through hoops to get them everything. We were like, we were like, hey, they are coming. You got to ready your ass because they're coming. And then, you know, Ukraine, I kind of drug their feet a little bit. They're like, oh, we'll just dig trenches. They're like, hey, it's not a good idea.
Starting point is 00:26:57 But, uh, yeah. I mean, like what a month later, we're like, oh, Ukraine's winning. Oh, yeah. They're not winning. They're, uh, they're doing the deed and we call, and that's what people seem to forget. If you actually scroll down in the crowd to an archive, like back a year, you'll see that we called it because we were like, okay, the javelins and the stingers aren't supposed to be doing that.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Like they're not supposed to be working that well. And everyone's like, uh, helicopters don't get shot down in Russia. Like 70 in the first two days. You're like, oh, that's, that's a lot. Yeah. But my, my answer to that question then is just like, I don't think we'll ever know. And to sit there and like, oh, look, Russia was weak. Like, bro, the United, like the cargo, the winner of the Ukraine war is the cargo.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It's Amazon. It's Amazon. Fuck. No, it's like, cause, uh, I mean, I live in the DC area and it's like the day after Ukraine gets invaded, there was a national level protest in DC about anti, you know, Russian sentiment. And I was like, where did you get all these flags? Can you imagine? I was like, yeah, I lived here for a little while.
Starting point is 00:28:11 There's a small little burrow where Eastern Europeans live, not 10% of the city. Can you imagine being some fucking flag maker and like po-dunk North Dakota. And you're just like, I bought this huge sewing machine, mom. And I'm telling you, our life savings are going to pay off because everybody's going to order flags and like months go by and nobody's ordering flags. The next, you wake up like February, what was it? Like 25th. He wakes up and there's like 10,000 orders for Ukrainian flags.
Starting point is 00:28:39 He's like, spread the presses up. We're going to fucking kill. Call some Marines out in San Diego. He's like, go to Tijuana. I need some friends real quick. Yeah. He's like, I need workers. We're fucking burning.
Starting point is 00:28:53 His mom comes in. How's that? Are you winning, son? And he's just like sweating in his underwear, burning through, making Ukrainian flags. There's a mountain of mobile red packs sitting next to him. He hasn't slept in three days. He's got, what was that? Four flags made.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I forgot. What's that fucking energy drink they sell in Southeast Asia with nicotine in it? It's like tiger blood or whatever. It's like, yeah. He's sipping those with a cigarette in like, I need more yellow. I am in high juice from Japan. He doesn't know that they're like, it's the equivalent of six shots of tequila. He's not.
Starting point is 00:29:30 It tastes the way fruity pebble smells. He's just, he's just like sitting there after like an 18 hour shift of making Ukrainian flags. He's just like, Oh God. Oh God. Mama fucked up and she's like, what honey? And he's just like, they're upside down. I put the blue on the top and the yellow on, but just turn them upside down. I'm freaking the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So it's like, it's day four. His fingernails are missing. He slowly draws a Z on his wall. He's like. He's just like, I'm fucking tired of these God damn flags. He puts on the VDV music video. He's like, yes. I'm tired of working.
Starting point is 00:30:10 He was one of those losers like George Wagner. He's just like, I'm so tired of these fucking flags. Oh shit. Actually, that's something I want to talk about propaganda in this war. Oh my God. Number one, it's funny. Russian propaganda goes so hard. Number two.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Because there was that video. You might have seen it came out like last month, about four weeks ago. It was by the Kremlin came out and they were like, hey, American veterans, you wanted to go out and take over the world and make it safe for democracy. And you fucked up the Middle East. If you actually want to do that, come over here and help us because if you want to be a Christian, why would you support a democracy? It was, it was like, checking every single box.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Yeah. What does a kid from Washington, Delaware like? I remember that fucking video because like, It was so choppy. Oh my God. Just like pictures of Marines twirling rifles. Look at your feminine army. Like, bro, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Oh, it's so funny. But some kid, some American vet, I don't know if you saw this, some American vet, he was a soldier. I don't think he deployed or anything. He was trained to join the international. Yeah. No. He went, he went to Fort AP Hill and goddamn war as hell.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. A lot of notional men. Sustained 90% casualties. He, um, so he went to Ukraine at first he was like his historic is, you know, he's defective to Russia, but his story was like, well, yeah, I wanted, I'm an anti fascist and I'm a communist and I went to Ukraine to fight Nazis. And I was immediately met with the A's off Italian guys and they said that they were the Nazis and that they love eating babies and stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And number one, bullshit. Number two. Yeah. So he was like, well, I was going to defect to Russia because that was my plan in the first place was to gather intel and give it to the Russians. And I was on the, I was at the Dnipro River and I was going to swim across, but I saw snipers standing behind me. And I was like, Oh, this is when I knew they're not trying to stop people
Starting point is 00:32:17 from coming in or trying to stop people from getting out. And so he's like, so what I did and I ran in the CP and I grabbed all the papers and I sprinted in the middle of the night all the way over to Russian lines and I, you know, defected and I gave them everything. And that's why I'm here because I hate fascists and I love communism. And this RT news guy was blank stare like, what? Why? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:32:40 He was like, they're Nazis. He was like, yeah, I was some Croatian dude. I don't know. It's like, yeah. And then, because Wagner came out there, like Americans had 10 million of their countrymen join Wagner. Again, bullshit. He was like, because you got this one dipshit from like Toledo, Ohio
Starting point is 00:33:00 to come over. Join the Americans. Dude, we didn't even get 10 million to join in GWAT total. Like fucking Wagner fucking army recruiters down in like Savannah, Georgia, calling Wagner headquarters. How did you get that many? Like, what's your secret? I had to put a skull on my uniform because the last guy who did that
Starting point is 00:33:19 didn't do good. Bro, what the fucking? How? God, I hate this, man. It's like all this dumb, dumb, dumb shit. Once we sit down and say like, we hope Ukraine loses. It's like, no, let's be realist about this. It's like, never once we sit down, you're like, by the way, I'm going
Starting point is 00:33:40 to spray paint Z on my chest with a big circle around it. And the next I says, no, bad. We donated like two tons to a group of guys that trained Ukrainians. They're like, we donated a ton of shit. We helped them. We did all types of stuff and a lot of connections. We did a lot of stuff in that front half of the front half of the war. And then people started shitting on us and then things got weird.
Starting point is 00:34:04 But I mean, hey, we didn't even get 10 million guys to join GWAT. That's what I'm saying, bro. Like, what a fucking riot is one thing. Another thing. Yeah. Like, I mean, we got a lot of flak for the NGO post that you and I like co-wrote. We're like, hey, NGOs are in the way. If they wanted to support, they would get out of the way because they're
Starting point is 00:34:24 not doing any good. And they're just robbing people and everyone's like, what NGOs are out there to help people and blah, blah, blah. We're like, we know what we're talking about. Okay. Yeah. Every soldier who joined the foreign legion is just like sitting there with an old AK, like body armor tied to him.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Like it's not even in a plate carrier. He's just got like two Walmart trash bags, duct tape to him. And he's like, I'm out here fighting. I don't know where any of this shit is. Well, yeah, it's crazy if you look first, like what's the NGO's whole job is to like some of those guys who like trained, they're like, yeah, they trained the rear echelon national guard guys. Cool.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I got that. But the other guys are like, I'm logistics. They're like, then why does it look like 10th group is inside Kiev? And the Soviets from the 1960s are on the front lines and black moot drinking piss and mud because there's no water purifiers. Like, Hey, where are those at? And so you say that and then the amount of the amount of backlash and then, you know, there's battles and beers who interviews both Russians and Ukrainians
Starting point is 00:35:22 all the time. Like, Hey man, run this past. He's like, Oh, you're not wrong. Yeah. I've talked to both sides. Yeah. They say it's awful. It's like, Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Cool. Thanks. I can't wait for this. I hope there is like a peaceful resolution to this because I swear to God, do you know how great it would be for like all these frontline dudes to come back and be like, none of you were there. None of you said anything. Like,
Starting point is 00:35:48 Like a certain amount of veterans. Yeah. Like a certain breed. Yeah. There's just like Ukrainian G1 vets like, fuck this place, bro. Fuck. You got these shell shock PTSD stricken, you know, Ukrainian vets come back to like, where the fuck were you?
Starting point is 00:36:07 They're like, the factory. He's like, Oh, I was watching you get rocketed on Instagram. It's not in Ukraine. Yeah. Oh man. I mean, there's a, there's so it's, it's not funny, but it's kind of funny that I see the NGOs here and like where I live and they're on the side of the roads or yeah in the DC area where they're in downtown DC or in front of the White House or at the Pentagon city
Starting point is 00:36:32 mall, they're at the Pentagon themselves and they're like, Slava Ukraine. And then I just say Slava, they're like, what did you say? You don't even know. I don't even know where I should say the same. It's like, yeah. What do they look like? Yeah. I show them the shirt.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I'm wearing it. I was like, what does this mean? They're like, no, I don't know. I'm like, all right. Like, Just give me your money. It's like the dominant religion in Russia. Give me the fucking, we always post the same GIF.
Starting point is 00:37:00 It's the always sunny money, me money now, give me money, money now. And it's like, bro, I fucking go and audit these people. Like there are groups out there just like, yeah, we got, you know, $400,000 and we bought like 20 things for the front line. We're doing good work out here. I'm like, how much do you make it bro? Like, what are you? Oh man, I was listening.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Who was I listening? It was Sam Hyde. I was listening to a Sam Hyde like clip earlier. And he was like, you want to be rich? Start an NGO. Give yourself 100,000. He's like, start an NGO. Make yourself the CEO.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Give yourself a smooth six figures every single year. He's like, yeah, then you're good forever. And I was like, God damn it, Sam. This was in practice. Fuck it now dude. Like never again, never once did we say that we're pro Russia or anti Ukraine. It's just like, it's just a get off Ukraine's bird for a second. It's, it's, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I mean, that's, that's the only way I can put it is like even like. Undeployments are in training or any of that shit. It's just laughing at everything because it all sucks and life sucks. And, you know, might as well just have a fucking laugh at it because you don't get to choose the clothes you wear. You don't get to choose shit and you're just doing whatever you're told. And so the only thing you've got is humor and it's like, okay, well, this isn't funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Guys, this is serious. This is very serious. People are dying. Yeah. People are dying in fucking Afghanistan and Iraq and you guys didn't give two shits. And now we're here. Oh man. It's like, this is, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:36 This is like something I always laugh at with their life. We should go over there and help the people of Ukraine. Like personally, I'm like, dude, instead of after 9 11, you enlisted, you just became racist and call the patriotism. Oh my God, dude. The same people who said that Sikhs were Muslims. You're like, no. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:38:55 They're like, I'm a firebomb of 7 11. What is wrong with you? You're like, this is Dayton, Ohio. What? I love that. Rather than join, you became a patriot. Like, mother fucker. Just became objectively racist through a little bad company.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Five-figured death puns. You always have a lip in, you know, trying to, a man pinches the bear. You got to go to tea. They just, they just blast pearl charms, Pearl Jam's 10. Even for her. I would have operated. I would have. The classic, they, or, or even better.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And this is almost like a dig at American veterans. The, the I served, but like in 1985. All they did was go to Germany and just fuck prostitutes. It's like, Oh, you know, there was a war like two years later. Where were you? I got out. You know, my contract was over. And I met guys like that.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Like when I first, I guess for the listeners, I got out of the military, went back to like Southeast Michigan, went back to Detroit. It's like, I might as well be a construction worker. That'd be pretty fun. And I went to a bar the first night and I was talking to this guy and he was like, you had telling us war stories. And I was like, Whoa, where were you? And he was like, Oh, uh, Dresden.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It's like, when, when he was like 85 to 89, it was like, how old are you? He was like, Oh, I'm, uh, it was like 45. And I was like, if you just waited like 20 minutes, would actually have a story. Yeah. Dude. Fuck. It's like, fuck. That is my, the Patriot, my, uh, my wife.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Not long. Yeah. And it sucks because people don't fucking get it, bro. Like you've got like a hundred fucking stickers on that thermos and it's probably full of anime titties and, uh, art with Ben's drawing and come town. Yeah. But like it's funny because my wife, she was a veteran. She, she served and she served with an infantry unit.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Like she was in the fucking, she got trench foot motherfucker like and went to Africa. But we were in line because her family's from Portland, Oregon. And we were in line to get coffee up there. And yeah, I know. Weird. Well, yeah, she's trying to escape escape. Uh, but some guy, we were waiting in line at the drive-through on the back of his big old lift 150 truck.
Starting point is 00:41:24 He had we the people and a two way on it. And she goes, what a fucking loser. I bet he never served. I laughed. Her family did not. They're like, I don't, I don't get it. I was like, take your fucking Walmart patriotism down the fucking block and get out of my fucking bank.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I was laughing. What did I? Meshuga came on like when I was at the gym and I was like mentally picturing a guy with like a come and take them tattoo, like a three percenter test. He's bald. He's got like a leather jacket. I know looking real tough. He's at a bar sitting down.
Starting point is 00:41:56 He's lifted F 150 with his four wheeler in the back harness down. He's sitting there. He was like, it's just fucking government. I swear to God. Never once considered joining the military. I thought about the Marine reserves. I thought about the Marine reserve one time when I told my recruiter that my dick was too big and they just wouldn't let me in.
Starting point is 00:42:15 He was like, I don't even pay to pick it up. I expect the shit out of that drill sergeant. He jokingly said something about CLP and I thought that was an STD and I want nothing to do with it. Christ our Lord. No premarital sex. Yeah. But I was just like, yeah, that's like the, the civilian bro vets like.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Oh God. They suck. But, but people want to be bro vets are God. They don't like people. Go ahead. Like, well, yeah, it's like, you're talking about all these stickers come and take them and all these like 3% or stuff. You're like, oh, every cop I've ever talked to is he's a back to blue sticker.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Immediately pulls them over. They're like, they're like, yeah, no one wears that dumb ass shit. Stop speeding. The punisher symbol with the fucking blue line. Like what if those two don't go together? Do you ever see that? It was like a meme that came out last year. It was always that the punisher logo and there's that caption.
Starting point is 00:43:15 It was like the devil whispered in and said the end times weird here and I was leaned in and whispered the end word or something like that. Oh yeah, dude. It's like, okay. What is it? It's like Sam Elliott and it's like Deborah left pants. Shit. Bacon.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Cooked. Range. Shot everything. Got a little American guy. It's like, I fucking hate all of this. This fucking, I put like, you show that. You guys favorite movies, Black Hawk down. It was like that was me.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I'm totally like those down the guys. I'm totally like, you know, Tyrion Lannister. Yeah, that's me. I'm a big thinker. I drink it. I know. I drink it. I drink it.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I know things. No, you fucking drink and watch turning point. You fucking asshole. No, you dream and watch the chest cam videos of cops shooting people. That's not the same thing. What are you doing? I was watching cops. Swemmel sweaty.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Fuck. Dude, can you imagine? Can you imagine we're going to fucking office job all day just to come home and be like, Oh, I need another 3% or sticker. I'm a hard motherfucker. I do all these DPS reports. People need to know I'm a bad ass. Meanwhile, the same guys who's like, if they see a sailor, they're like, you fucking pussy.
Starting point is 00:44:48 What was that old bill burst get where he was talking about like, yeah, remember like the mid 2000s, if you ever questioned why we're like fighting a war in the first place. Like my brother's in Iraq and you're like, never said he wasn't. That's the best way to put it. Like, maybe we shouldn't be giving $200 billion of weapons to the second most corrupt country. Fucking Ukraine is fighting for their rights. I never said they were. Jesus fuck.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I don't know how you took that. Your mental gymnastics are Olympic worthy. Fucking hell. Yeah, that's just almost been like a vent session. It's like we were talking about AFV. I put the second half. He's like, these people. You have to clarify it's the fucking the Ukrainian.
Starting point is 00:45:38 No. Okay. So I'm going to call of you. Ookey booze because it's Ukrainian is too long. It's Ookey booze. It's Ookey booze because if you if you in like the history forums and shit, if you're like a World War two, like Germany buff, you're called a wear a boo. So I'm just going to start calling them Ukrainian booze or Ookey booze.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Like some of Ukraine pronouns and God, I just want to identify tanks. When the damn dude, I, I, you know what Bobby Yara is? Yeah. Yeah. Dude, when Ukraine started getting German tanks and they had the iron cross on the side because they were like, Oh, if you think we're Nazis, we're just going to wear Nazi bullets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And the Ukrainian infantry were like panzer graded ears and like Bobby R2. Dude, they have the fucking one of the darkest thoughts I've had. They're just laughing at myself. Yeah. God damn. God damn it. His buzz saw us out there ripping Russian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:39 That's awesome. Yeah. It's dude. Imagine like having to be that fucking Russian that goes to like the UN councils and they're like, stop it. Stop it. Oh, geez. And he's just like showing them pictures of like German tanks with iron crosses.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Ukrainians with fucking MG 42s. The MG three is fucking, they are wearing German shit. Like he's like, what do you want me to think? Propaganda that narrative fill off quick. Yeah. Right. That stuff. Because yeah, they're all like, yeah, Ukrainians are Nazis, blah, blah, blah, they eat babies
Starting point is 00:47:16 and even veterans were coming back with like, you know, missing legs, getting bullied by kids. I mean, yeah. In America, you thought our veterans get treated bad in Russia. You're less than dirt. They were like, oh, you fart a word and nobody wants anything to do. They wouldn't even buy you a drink or a sympathy card. But, uh, but it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:47:32 It's like, Ukrainians eat Nazis in their, whatever, whatever. Within 48 hours, the war, that narrative disappeared. And then it was, uh, I mean, I was in a budget like Russian group chats on like a telegram. And they were like, yeah, regardless of how you feel about this war, the narrative, we got to win because it's going to be bad. At this point, it's so they don't look bad. That's all this is. It's not Nazis or, uh, space, witch magic.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's like, guys, we cannot lose this. Like pull it together. It's fucking half time. That was on, that was on like D plus four. We can't listen to this. D plus four. Bro. To put that, remember, it was a page called, it was a page called Sylovik.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It's like security forces. It's like brother, pull your shit together. Hey guys, come on. This is fucking JV shit. Put that in perspective, like day five, like, wasn't it like the army and the Marines in Iraq were just kind of like looking at each other on their way to Baghdad, like racing. Like, no, motherfucker. We called it the thunder run and we were racing to get to fucking Baghdad.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Oh, when 91. Yeah. We weren't competing with the Iraqi army. We were competing with each other. And that is like the worst fucking. Just like this. It's punching down as far as you can. Nothing pulled back.
Starting point is 00:48:52 That's walking into your little sister's room and destroying everything she has. Just she can't fight back. She's six. You're 15 and she's going punching down. Literally punching down. Just everything she has and you walk in, you're like, what? Freedom is in free. And then you put on some Kenny Chesney.
Starting point is 00:49:16 You're like, yeah. Toby Keith. Fuck it. Oh man. You want to hear, here's a funny story. It's a, it's a, it's a war story. Not really. I was at a bar and.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Not really. I was at a bar. So I remember I was a, it was outside of Camp Lejeune. There was this bar that opened up. It was called Twin Ravens. It was a Viking theme, a Nordic theme bar. That was run by Australian women. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Okay. They had no kitchen. They had no kitchen, no food. But if you brought your own, they would make it. Awesome. They would have, it was behind like a boutique store. And so it was like Priscilla's boutique. If anyone here is from a Marine, they understate Jackson.
Starting point is 00:49:54 It was behind Priscilla's boutiques. Yeah. It was the most bizarre. They had a, they dug a hole in the backyard with like roast pigs. It didn't make any sense. How did this past fucking food inspection, bro? No clue. No clue.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I have no idea. Well, cause they didn't have food. Oh, you brought PYB bringing your food. Yeah. So it's a BYOF, right? So I remember I was, I walked in, I sat down. I got a beer in this little short plump guy walks up with like a hat on and no teeth, like a cowboy hat and no teeth.
Starting point is 00:50:23 He's like, I'm you in the military. It's like, yeah. He's like, you like Kenny Chesney? I was like, yeah, it's okay. He's like, I'm going to put on some Kenny Chesney. Walked over to the jukebox, put on Toby Keith's American soldier and saluted me for the little song. I was just completely uncomfortable ripping shots of Jameson.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I was like, I need to forget whatever that was. He had a fucking always sunny moment where he saluted the guy. He's a Filipino hello. Just like, dude, what the fuck is that? I would have called the cops like, Hey, I got a guy here. He might have cocaine. He definitely, but like if he was still saluting you under, he may be, he definitely, he has cocaine.
Starting point is 00:51:00 He has cocaine. Like he has cocaine on him. He walks outside, starts eating outside the cook out and then wanders to the cave, the least rated strip club and all of Jacksonville. The Tuesday night scene. I was like, I don't know. And then wanders to the cave, the least rated strip club and all of Jacksonville. The Tuesday night specials would give birth outside and finish their set.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, that was a great set. It was a great city to live in. Fucking owners out there with a towel covering her. You want to watch that's extra. Like. God damn, where were we going with this? Propaganda? Propaganda?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Fuck it. I know, bro. Oh man. How about memes don't win wars? That's a, that's a solid one. Dude, we're going to lose like all of the fucking pages that followed whatever, but like the amount of people who are posting memes and fucking like it's real. And there's a guy named Peter Zahan.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Z E I H A N. Just type that name into YouTube. And he recently did a panel with another Ukrainian who was like up there on the stage like, yeah, I'm going to go on a summer break for the first time in a year. It's going to be my first vacation in a year. And Peter looks at it and he's like, you might want to cancel that fucking vacation because based on my estimates, like you're going to have like the war, like the battle to finish this war is coming in May when the mud seasons over.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And he's just like slapping him with cold hard facts. Like, yeah, you've got 60 to 100,000 newly trained Ukrainians and stuff. And like the whole time the guy's just responding with like, stop Ukraine. We're strong. St. Java. God, dude. It's just like he's saying all the memes, saying all the pages. And it was just uncomfortable because the whole time Peter's like, you,
Starting point is 00:52:45 you, you've got a chance, but you're going to have to fight for it. And it's, and we really want you to win. So pull it together. You guys should really call a folks Deutsche and get all your people back. Yeah, the people's not going to start. You know, it's bad when it's like one kid gets the tube. The other one gets the rocket. All right, put the RPG together.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Oh, man. What's the other ones they post? Like a video of Russians getting just, just fucked up. And you're like, yeah, that's a real, it's a war. Yeah. What do you want me? Yeah. Like, dude, that's the thing is like, it's all Russian kill porn.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And, you know, that's what we call it in the military. Actually a little excited when I see some chess camp footage from the Russians. I'm like, what are they doing? Yeah. Cause they don't have cameras. Oh man. What's crazy though is you see the Russians because they have like the, the GoPro on, they have their AKs.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And you're like, is that an Amazon red dot for a Nerf gun? Like, what are you guys using? But then you're like, oh, Amazon doesn't deliver to Russia. They got canceled. That's a battlefield pickup. Means the Ukrainians are buying these things. The Russians are picking them up. And you're like, hey, I'm not saying that the KIA is probably a three to one, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:58 three Ukrainians for every one Russian, but I don't know. But I mean, think about that. That goes exactly back to what we were talking about. Right. So like the Russians can't get these fucking optics and then the Ukraine. And so like you said, they got a, that's a battlefield pickup. He's got to kill somebody and get that. And so that means the guys on the front line don't even have optics.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Like if, if they are, if the Russians are killing people and they are, cause this is a war. And they're not picking up optics and they're, and they have shit optic. It's like, okay. Where are all the optics and the money that we are raising? Where are those? Isn't that your job? When I just send it and then it just goes. Oh man, it's like, we should take a trip to Kiev, me and you, two tough boxes,
Starting point is 00:54:47 which for you civilian folk are just like big industrial boxes that I'm going to fill with free Ukrainian shit because I know it's not on the front lines. It's in a little stored key, but I'm like, yeah, I'm going to the front line. I'm just like, I'm going to show up. Slava Ukraine. They're like, hell yeah. We have a really slap on $8,000 worth of gear on you and me and you just fucking bolt. You're running to 2000 Americans and Brits grifting.
Starting point is 00:55:12 You're like, oh yeah, you're here too. Dude, there are going to be some fucking sick ass airsoft teams in Europe. Fucking. Do you follow a Americana pipe dream on Instagram? I guess I need to. Oh man. Well, it's not an airsoft page, but these kids from like Pennsylvania, I think just went out and got a, they made up their own warehouses or buying surplus.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So they made a circle store, essentially is what they did. But what's cool is they just started getting shipments of like Russian camouflage from Ukraine. Hello. Hey there. All right. Yeah. Yeah. So Americana pipe dream is.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Oh, my internet's dropping off. Hold on. Give me a second here. That's what you get for following Russian telegrams. Left those as soon as Tessa Rondi's got roped up. But that dumbass. He's an anti-marine with a TS clearance. Two mall.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Anyways, we have to cut this part out. But anyways, so Americana pipe dream just created a surplus store. But what's kind of neat is now they're getting like Russian field camouflage. And you're like, Oh, these are battlefield pickups. It's like, it's like the amount of money I would pay to get my hands on a VDV like. Helmet or top. Thanks for that little bad boy. Dude.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Imagine being that kid whose mom won't give you the credit card for your airsoft gear. And you're like, Oh, fuck. And so you go on Instagram and you order like a while. You're like, that's it. Yeah. He just opened this blood covered fucking box. Oh God. Put on the doom soundtrack and slam a gallon of milk.
Starting point is 00:57:01 You're like, this is me now. Listen to Sam Hyde 2070. He's got a plate carrier with bits of fucking skull and hair attached to it. Like, all right, guys, let's play airsoft, bro. I'd fucking leave. I'd be like, imagine. He shows up. He's like, it gets the uniform wet to smear a little of blood on his face.
Starting point is 00:57:19 He's like, I'm blending in. How bad do you think that smells? How bad do you think that is Russian? Manus. Because you know, they didn't wash it. They just threw it in a box and sent it. Okay. I didn't put shit on it.
Starting point is 00:57:33 That's one thing I do want to talk about. We talked about in the group chat before, especially with, you know, Steven, our, our in-house Alex Jones. Our Gandalf. Our Gandalf. Our Gandalf, the gray who's we've talked about before. He's the greatest. But a symbol, symbolism in this war that's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Okay. I don't, I don't know a lot of Americans like covering themselves in, we don't have a Patriot saint, but no, but it's like, we don't have any religious iconography being thrown on top stone into our uniforms to go fight a war, which was essentially a holy war. If you want to go to that far because everyone forgets that it was a fucking Gion that one third of the world population attacked the other two thirds. Like it was, hey, that was a war. That was a holy war.
Starting point is 00:58:15 And everyone kind of forgets that, but, but there was never once of America saying like, Crusaders are like, of course there was like ones or twos inside of units that were like, I'm going to play medieval total war too. And, you know, committed crusader or something. But the idea of Russians covering themselves in like 500 year old iconography of like, yeah, this is the Patriot saint of war. You're going to cover yourself in his stuff. You're going to go fight and they're going to come back.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And then the Soviet flags waving on top of Russian tanks. And even over like recently occupied cities, because I found out recently, I didn't know that Bakhmut was something completely different. The Ukrainians changed the name after the Russians annex Crimea. What was it? Bakhmut's not the city. So the Russians don't give a fuck. They're like, I will destroy the city because if you want to change the name, then I don't
Starting point is 00:58:58 care. Yeah. Give me a second here. Yeah. But no, I'll talk while you look that up because it was just like Stephen mentioned this. And he said the Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox church is in on it. It was like they're in on it. They're wearing St. George ribbons.
Starting point is 00:59:16 They're doing all this stuff. And he was like, I guarantee you the Ukrainian Orthodox church because they separated once the war got into it a little bit. And he was just like, I guarantee you that the Ukrainian Orthodox church is in on it. And then like a month later, they started roping up Orthodox priests. And they're like, not only did they have Russian passports and money and guns, but they were shooting intel and like basically the soldiers were talking to the priests and the priests were relaying those locations and identifiers to the Russian embassy and stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And so it was like the entire Orthodox church was basically like a safe house for Russian operatives. And it was crazy. And like you said, like we have in the US Army, we have St. Michael, the Patriots, St. Paratroopers, but we're not allowed to put any of that shit on us. So because yeah, it's separation of truth to say it got to keep this very separate. But I mean, something even like when it comes to religion, like, I don't think Putin gives two shits about religion, but he definitely chalks up the I am an Orthodox Christian and
Starting point is 01:00:22 he has priests come out and bless all the AKs. All the AK. Which is kind of funny because if the Ukrainians also believe in the mystical side of things where they're like, Oh, Chessians want to attack us. We're going to soak our ammunition and pig fat and send them straight to hell. And it's like, what? Yeah, I remember seeing that they were like dipping the bullets and like pig fat and then loading it.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And I'm like, which I found out was just like large. You used to make borscht. And so it's like, Hey, this is a war over soup. The good super. Yeah. So Bakhmut was originally called Bakhmut 30 from 1871 to 1924. So after the communist revolution, so that was the traditional name for the Russian Slavs.
Starting point is 01:01:08 And then it was changed to. Artuma Mazovsk, something like that. And so, but it was like the Russian spelling. And then in nineteen ninety, nineteen forty three to nineteen forty two, it was that. And then after the ball came down, it was just Artemovisk. So it was the Ukrainian spelling. And then in twenty sixteen of the Ukrainians had Crimea annex. They were like, well, it's Bakhmut again, which maybe if you want to go the symbolism
Starting point is 01:01:31 route, they're like, Hey, that's ours. That's always been ours. Yeah. Hey, that's Slavs built that. And we're all Slavs. But I don't know what 97 percent of the city is empty now. That's just the coolest call of duty match of all time. All it is.
Starting point is 01:01:48 The shoot house is just that's exactly what I was going to say. Shoot house. And like, I mean, like it kind of reminds me of like a really, because like they're buzzing, they keep buzzing people in to Bakhmut. They won't just because the Russians, whether whoever likes it or not, they are pounding the front line every day. They are pounding it with artillery. And so that's all Bakhmut is.
Starting point is 01:02:10 It's just one big giant artillery target. Like, dude, it has the building or we've talked about this. The buildings are able to withstand that type of punishment because the Soviets made them design them that way. I autistically went down that rabbit hole about architecture and everything. But it's like, why stay? Why stay at a zeroed in artillery target? It's like, well, and then like this is this is where the fucking why we are not after
Starting point is 01:02:36 this, we're probably never going to talk about it for like another six months. But why stay? Like, well, it's Bakhmut's not strategically important. If the Russians take it, it's not a big deal. OK, then why are you there? Why are you in a zeroed in artillery target? And then it's like killing Russians. You're like, because I'm pretty sure if you drink piss and shit, you're going to have
Starting point is 01:02:53 dysentery, you're going to be combat ineffective for the next six months. So yeah, how much longer can you do that? Like just retreat, bro. And that was like something that like every time I read Eastern front or war. Just retreat, bro. Just retreat. Fall back. Smoke grenade leapfrog backwards.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Come on. We don't do this. Come on. But that's what all I think about. If you ever read like World War Two, Germany versus Russia, every fucking field commander is like, let us defend in place, kill as many Russians as we can, come back, fall back and like just don't let the position get overrun or turn into like this artillery match where we basically a trip the enemy as we retreat.
Starting point is 01:03:36 And it's just neat. If you ask them, it's like Bakhmut is insignificant. If the Russians take it, no big deal. And then on the other side, it's like, well, we're defending Bakhmut because it is strategically important and they can't have it. And it's like, what fucking is it? And nobody can tell me. Then it goes back to symbolism.
Starting point is 01:03:52 We're just like, hey, if they're fighting over a city and the Ukrainians go, we got to stop the Russians here. Why? Because why? Well, it's symbolic. And then you're like, okay, cool, cool, cool. And then you look at the Wagner guys, you're like, all right, so why are you here? They're like, oh, we started this last year. We just want to finish.
Starting point is 01:04:08 They're like, you got it. You're completionist. I got it. You know, respect. Then you look at the Russians, you're like, and why is the VDV here? Why are you dropping baritubers behind lines behind a city? Yeah, they're taking out LOAs and everything and LOCs, which is smart. But they're like, why are you using your Marines to attack a city?
Starting point is 01:04:26 That's not their job, dude. That doesn't make... I mean, we talked about this before. You can't put yourself in their shoes. You're like, what are you doing? This doesn't make any sense. Dude, oh my God. It's like every turn, it's like, okay, the Russians have the upper hand.
Starting point is 01:04:40 It's like, okay, let's see what happens. And then they do the exact opposite of what they should do. And then the whole time everyone's like, oh, yeah, fucking Russians are stupid. And we were fucking winning and Ukraine forever freedom. And it's like, okay, but do you realize we are spending billions and billions of dollars on this every day and we are holding them up and like, basically there's like a tower of money on the back of punch-drunk Ukraine. And it's like, I can keep going forever.
Starting point is 01:05:08 And Russia just keeps throwing bodies at the problem. It's like, we're going to try and win this war by buying it. And then the other side is just going to slaughter a hundred thousand more people and not even be halfway done. And that is insane. In terms of, because there's always those pushes, we've joked about it before, like, what does Ukraine ask for next? Because they wanted F-18s.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yeah. And I was like, I think it's going to be A-10s. And then they came out, they were like, it's going to be the A-10s because the U.S. military comes out. They're like, we're going to retire one third of the fleet. They're like, you said that before, and the whole reason we kept them around, the tank buster is to get rid of the Russian tanks. Cool.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Got it. Let's see how that works. But you're like, all right, cool, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. But then you're like, what's the end state? Is Ukraine just going to be the 52nd state, 53rd state behind Japan and the back? Is that just an unsinkable aircraft carrier that's in the thorn of the Russians? And then at that point, you're just justifying future Russian actions of like, yeah, they're right there.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah. Right on the doorstep. There's always that, I'm sure you've seen the meme where it's like, in a deliberate act of aggression, Iran parked its country off the coast of our ship. You're like, let's take a step back real quick. I understand why they're frustrated. I'd be a little upset too if you were just standing on my shoulders. Dude, it's so bad.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And I mean, that was something like even Peter Zaya and the guy I'm talking about, I've watched like a couple of hours of his work and I've already got like one of his books on order is just like, he mentions that he's just like, there's like, all the rare earth minerals are in Mariupol, all the industrialization, all the good stuff that we need to go from an industrialized society to this modern society that uses high end chips and all these things. Like that was all in the eastern part of Ukraine. And the other stuff, most of it is actually in Siberia and Russia. And we've sanctioned them to death.
Starting point is 01:07:06 And so like a quarter of the world's like everything has just been like blown up and everyone's like, we're not done until Russia's dead. And it's like, OK, yeah, but like you said, what's the end state here? Because who's going to stay around and rebuild this shit? Who's going to give these guys money? Who's going to clean up? Like already BlackRock is over there right now trying to make a deal. And if you don't know who BlackRock is, they're the basically evil empire of America that
Starting point is 01:07:35 is using AI computers called Aladdin to make trading decisions at hypersonic speed faster than you can click the button. And so and they're the ones buying up all the private land in America as well. And so yeah, there isn't an end state to this that is good. There isn't. And Peter Zion goes down that rabbit hole. And if you look at it from a political science, geography, sociology standpoint like he does, it's insane to think that like like Germany is dead.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Germany lost 60 percent of its energy through Nord Stream. And they're like sitting there like, oh, we're going to make a new pipe of that into Ukraine. And how much you reactivate here? The new plants, they're gone, bro. That's what he said. He's like, they can't be reactivated. They've been down too long and everyone's like, wait, wait. And so like, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah, it's I mean, even in terms of like strategic end state, because we've talked about it before that America doesn't have a foreign policy. We have a foreign action where it's if we want to look in terms of like rare materials and everything, we're like, the Chinese bought the land rights to Afghanistan like 2009. And we stuck around for 12 more years. You're like, so are you are we treating a stage four cancer patient? We're just getting a little longer to live or we're going to make him feel okay until that cancer just eats him from the inside, like Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Or are we going to do the magic Johnson method of I'm just going to throw money at this terminal illness until until I die or one of us quits. That's when I was there, we took the National Geographic Association around. So like we planned the the Marines took them, but they took the geological survey teams all around Afghanistan in sea stallions, and they let them probe the ground because they were looking for mining like mines for earth minerals that the Chinese didn't own. So we were trying to give the Afghans a chance at owning their land again. And I think they scratched the mission.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I'm not sure, but like we put a lot of heart and soul and sweat into that planning process me and the Marines. And if that's what I knew exactly like you said, like we're not here because we want to be we're here because China owns this bitch and they can't get it until we're done with it. And so we're just going to keep magic Johnson it. We're just going to keep throwing money until China gives up. Same thing with Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:10:02 It's like, we're just going to keep doing this until Russia is completely depleted. And everyone's like, oh, well, then Putin is good because that's how Peter Zion says is like Russia doesn't stop until it loses 500,000 soldiers exactly like your boy said, or they lose their government in the last however many hundred years. Russia has been declaring war. They either come up with a new governmental system or they lose half a million soldiers and then they quit. And so he's like, but we can't really allow that to happen because if Putin and his gang
Starting point is 01:10:30 goes under, what do we do with all the nuclear weapons, the weapons, the guns? Well, on top of that, if we want to talk about in terms of economic situations, what let's say literally 35 to 40 percent of the world's grain comes from Ukraine and all the farmers are dead. Yeah, they're gone. Yeah, because it was the city that the city provided the men. Yeah, those strong city folks. It's not those God damn it.
Starting point is 01:10:58 It's just like thank God damn it. It's the only that always funny. God damn it. It's God damn it, man. It was something we posted recently about like, oh, Ukraine and the Brink of Collapse and got a lot of hate. And some guy was there was a bunch of comments and it was bad. But I just kept commenting.
Starting point is 01:11:15 I was like, think bigger, think bigger, like, yeah, it's like a fourth order effects. Nobody cares. That's why America, like that's why we allow our government to sit here and say that shit, right? Like we allow them to have not a foreign policy, but a foreign action because it's like, we're only thinking in election cycles. Like what's going to happen in the next two to four years, like then you have something like Taiwan, which is historical blend, strategic ambiguity, but then if, you know, gun to his
Starting point is 01:11:43 head, they're like, hey, Mr. President, are you going to defend you Taiwan? And he's like, yes. And then the White House press comes out there like, no, what does that mean? I mean, I wouldn't be too comfortable sweating, sweating in the corner. I like, what the fuck am I just going to get? Yeah, yeah. It's like immediately after that press conference last year, they were like, oh, by the way,
Starting point is 01:12:03 we're building a chip manufacturing plant in Tucson, Arizona, by Taiwan, by Taiwan. Fuck it, dude. Ray Theod and General Dynamics were like leaning over to Taiwan, like, hey, you want some guns? Like, you want some weapons, bud? Like, fucking, because you're on your own. I wonder how many javelins are in Taiwan right now. Fuck, bro. There's not enough.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Well, did you, I mean, I don't know, we're, we're getting to about that time. It's been, it's been a long rant, but I mean, did you read that battles were studying about the Chinese invading Taiwan? No, peace. So Taiwan wins every time. They just do a little worse sometimes. So in the war plan, Taiwan wins every single time. They just do a little worse sometimes where the battle study considered like, well, if
Starting point is 01:12:56 there's a hundred mile gap between mainland China to Taiwan and the Taiwanese entire doctorate is no longer retake the mainland. It's, yeah, just we got to sink every ship and plane that comes our way. So just point their, you know, artillery as indirect fire to start sinking ships. And then they were very liberal with it too, where they were like, theoretically, if the Chinese secure a beachhead and all these things are like, cool, then what? Because Taiwan's a rock. It's, yeah, it's all they have to do is have, I mean, we thought the Pacific campaign was
Starting point is 01:13:29 bad and we never even fought on top of an island the size of Taiwan. No, that's an entire group of people who want to fight the Chinese. That's not the Ukrainian saying, please don't attack us. The time when he's going, we know you're coming. It just don't win. I mean, she's already said it, right? Like he's saying, like 20 in the next 20 years, he wants to take back Taiwan and reunification, the reunification plan.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And by 2049, the 2049 project, and that's a hundred years after. Yeah, it's a hundred years after the CCP being in control of red China, but here's the thing that people always forget. It's like, oh, well, that's not invasion by 2049. That's reincorporation. That takes a generation, which means they have to push like, maybe 2025, 26, while they still have, I mean, it's like, China's birth rates declining, they don't have, they're not making kids three years of COVID lockdown, stopped everyone from number one, having kids,
Starting point is 01:14:25 number two, mingling, and they have too many men. And they have too many men. It's like, what do you do with, you have too many men? You invade a country with more women. And that's when like, I mean, we talked about with Ukraine, that it's like, yeah, I mean, you could say that Russians sustain 300,000 casualties, but they have two million women refugees inside their country. You're like, this is animalistic.
Starting point is 01:14:46 This is a fight for survival. It's not a, it's not just a, oh, I want to take some land and make a buffer zone. It is that, yes. But it's also like, no, this is a fight for survival. So if we sacrifice a couple of boys to make a couple of babies, hey, that's pretty good. And maybe that's the same situation to China's. And so that's think bigger.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Yeah, no, it's like, because I mean, that's the thing is like, things are always changing and the end state changes. Like what's the desire? Like, how does this stop? Like, right? Like when they get X, China or Russia, then it's over, right? And so like, that's the thing is like, Taiwan just has to sit there and defend. Like you said, they just have to sink ships and do that shit and not give up.
Starting point is 01:15:27 And, you know, and on top of that, it can become an insurgency. And that is a pain in the ass in its own bit, but it's just like love to see like a cyberpunk guerrilla feudal society in China again, where it's just the warlords, dude, wouldn't it? Oh my God. Like, are you talking like, uh, like back in like the 1930s when there were like four different groups and check and there was like, yeah, the imperial Japan and communist China or imperial China and the Japanese were there.
Starting point is 01:15:56 It'd probably be us and that would be wild. That would be it. That would just, oh my God, just think of it at this point. If we've talked about an all cons podcast, but if they only have like 7% of their water nationally is drinkable. If you have a non-regulated system, so then you're like, that's a humanitarian issue. If we have something like Africa, which is a humanitarian issue and they just will not stop having kids, you're like, then what?
Starting point is 01:16:21 So many people are going to die. So many people are going to die these next 20 years and not like, it's not going to be nice either. And then at that point, you're like, all right, so if we're talking about water in China and this is just me, like just speaking off the cuff, um, the Middle East doesn't have water either. So what do Iran and the Saudis do? Because there are a cold war and they're using Yemen is that the proxy
Starting point is 01:16:42 war and the Iranians are winning, but they don't have any water. So like, what's next? Did those two duke it out? America's tension between, and we're talking about American short-term thinking of, you're like, wow, in terms of like, we don't understand religion at all, or even how tribalism works. So you're like, oh, Saddam Hussein was a Sunni Muslim, we're going to make the Shias in charge.
Starting point is 01:17:01 And you're like, oh, they all came from this neighborhood that's run by the IRGC shit. And so now it's created up. So it's like, yeah, it's like that domino effect of like, what's next? What's next? What's next? What's next? That's what's crazy is like Peter, Peter Zion goes over all of that in his
Starting point is 01:17:17 like, look it up. He goes on like this 45 minute rant. And that was like the most depressing thing I have literally ever heard was when he said, Saudi Arabia and Iran are going to fight in the next 20 years. He's like, they just have to, uh, they're, they're going to have to figure out who the superpower in the Middle East is going to be. And Turkey. I won't forget those guys, but anyways, that's coming.
Starting point is 01:17:41 That's around the corner. And it's like, we, we didn't stabilize Iraq at really at all. Cause there's like tons of Iranian backed militias running around in the country. And it's just like, that's coming down the pipeline. China and Taiwan are going to be a problem, but he literally talks exactly like you said, like the birth rate in China is abysmal. And so they've only got like the next 10 years left. And Xi is like basically a dictator of China at this point.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Like he's consolidated all the power around him. And that's why COVID is wrecking shop in China because one, their vaccine doesn't work. And then two, nobody knows what Xi wants to do because Xi has to be the guy who tells all this stuff. And Xi has been killing literally every bad news messenger. That's why he was caught off guard when Russia said like, Oh yeah, we're not going to like at the Olympics. He's like, yeah, yeah, we're not going to, we're not going to do that thing.
Starting point is 01:18:32 We're not going to do the Ukraine thing. And the Chinese knew and they were like, uh, who's going to tell Xi and nobody did. And so, uh, even Biden, but like he talks about that, like Biden had to tell Xi that his country was having problems with COVID. And he's like, what are you talking about? And he's like, yeah, nobody's been telling you, bro, because they're all going to get shot in the back of the head. And so it's like, you got that red line phone call, you pick it up.
Starting point is 01:18:56 You're like, Hey, hey, dude, hey, hey, man to man, what the hell? What the hell? Yeah. Put your house under control. Like, dude, it, so basically like he said, like that, that this heartening thing is like, you know, the Middle East is going to get, get lit back on fire. China is going to crumble in the next 10 years and oh, by the way, like Germany is falling because 60% of their, you know, energy consumption is gone. And they don't have a plan to replace it.
Starting point is 01:19:23 So Europe and the EU are going to fall. Russia and Ukraine have basically both knee capped each other. And they're like, but the cool thing is, is like, the United States is completely energy independent. Like we produce all our own gas and stuff and we do all this stuff. And he's like, it's going to suck for everybody for the next 20 years in the US, but like outside of the US, it's going to be God awful. Because like you said, 35% of, you know, Europe and Africa's grain is in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:19:51 So it's gone now. All those farmers are dead. Yeah, you've mentioned it. I mean, yeah, the farmers is a huge thing, but I mean, we can't, you know, crush a bushlight for the farmers anymore. But it's, uh, those cans are good, man, the corn cans. The, um, God, damn it. I just had a thought it's falling off.
Starting point is 01:20:13 It fell off. I just, I had to talk about bushlight. Um, I had to do my Midwest white trash plug. Um, oh, yeah. So we talked about this before where it's like, whether you like it or not, the Russians punched hard against a unified global economy, essentially. And so after Afghanistan, after Iraq, after 30 years in the Middle East and supporting these, uh, questionable governments post-Arab spring, these
Starting point is 01:20:42 countries are going to start thinking America is not our friend. We need to start becoming self-liant. And so then it's just, it's turning the clock back. I remember last year, uh, Biden came out and he was like, yeah, what the hell? There's less democracies now than there were four years ago. He was like, what happened? It's like, uh, and it's, so, you know, people are more comfortable with the evil they know than what they don't.
Starting point is 01:21:04 They're like, I'll just go back to that instead of, like the, like the Russians in the nineties where they went, this sucks. I would much rather be a Soviet than whatever the hell this is. Yeah. Cause I mean, yeah, yeah, it's, it's that we, I was just going to say, like I, when I was younger, I used to hear stories about how the Russian soldiers were paid in oranges and vodka because the government couldn't afford to feed them and pay them.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And I remember I was talking to a Ukrainian woman. I was like, what about, did you guys get you, uh, oranges and vodka? She's like, oranges are far too expensive. Now it's like, good Lord. What the hell? Over Soviet was the worst thing. And then you sit down and read their, I mean, this is just me rambling. It's, you sit down to read their literature and you start reading about the
Starting point is 01:21:50 situation in the nineties. You're like, yeah, they have a reason to be sad. Yeah, they get a reason to be sad. They're sad, but I mean, yeah, we were talking about that on all kinds of like, I was, we were talking about the fact that like, that's the name of the game now, right? Like people realize that after Vietnam, after Iraq, a couple of fights in Iraq and Afghanistan, like America doesn't care about you.
Starting point is 01:22:12 We're getting our own and people are going to realize that in the next 10 years, because according to some of these experts, like we are set for good, a good time, not a great time, not a magnificent time, but we're better off than the rest of the fucking world. And, and then in terms of, uh, international support, see where your legions lies. I mean, in the 1930s, the Spanish had the civil war. And so they created the Lincoln brigades and the international brigades to
Starting point is 01:22:36 fight fascists under Franco, but the government that they were fighting was communist. And so all these volunteers from America come back. They're like, Hey, you're not registered as a communist and an enemy of the state because we can't trust you. And it's the same thing in Ukraine because you go over there to fight for another country's government. And then you come back and you're like, you just can't bleed back into society.
Starting point is 01:22:53 If they're like, dude, what the hell? Again, it goes back to like, where were you for 20 years when we had our own war? If you really want to fight somebody. Like, you could have done it. And so that's just the big thing. It's like, you know, what's the end state? What's, what's America going to do with strategic ambiguity? It doesn't work anymore.
Starting point is 01:23:10 You have to have a policy. Yeah. And I mean, it's, it's going to be weird these next five years, even if Ukraine wins, cause I mean, then what, and that's, that's, I guess, you know what? That would be more fun. That should be our course of action for the next, for the next six months. It's like, who's going to win? And, and no, we just, we just ask anybody who says that, like, then what?
Starting point is 01:23:37 But like, what that, cause you're, we're trying to get them to like, Hey, think a little deeper. Come on. Go. Okay. Step two. And they're like, no, fuck you. We're going to win.
Starting point is 01:23:46 And okay. Then what is your, is your t-shirt company going to make more t-shirts so that they can, you know, have economic opportunity in Ukraine and rebuild? Fuck no. Nobody's going to donate to that shit. Nobody's going to donate like, Hey, uh, we're going to economically support Ukraine and then Iraq and Afghanistan and African countries and Kosovo and places in Detroit and Flint, Michigan are going to be like, I'd love some
Starting point is 01:24:10 economic fucking opportunity. And then it's going to get real awkward. Get real upset Puerto Ricans because they're American territory. They're, they're in American territory. And every time a hurricane rolls through, we just like kick water bottles on the back of a plane. We're like, uh, okay, give him the Donald Trump, uh, Scott towel from the three point line.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Okay. Oh my God. Stupid. And yeah. But it's like, Hey, those are, they're like, wow. You're like, Hey, there's lots of stuff going on out there. Puerto Rico, get a lot of American dominions, Samoa, these places that are like, Hey, technically these are American.
Starting point is 01:24:50 They don't really give a shit about them because like, Hey, if the Puerto Rico is right there, say, how do you forget that? Or, uh, I don't know. I don't want to go, I don't want to like touch on that train, train derailment, but there was like six chemical trains that were derailed. And they're like, the trains, not because that they had contaminant items. It was, Oh, they all derailed because the international railway systems bad. They're like, how long has this been a thing?
Starting point is 01:25:19 And then, you know, reports come out. They're like, Oh, 75 years. They were like, what? Dude, it's exactly. I mean, I put that when I, when I got back, I tried to send like money to a support group and one guy, it's a comment that lives with me for a while. Cause I was trying to help, uh, like a group in Eastern Europe. And I was like, where do they do like the donations?
Starting point is 01:25:41 Cause I'm just trying to support, uh, this Baltic nation. And he's like, you can send money to me. I'm a poor Slav, like, or you can send it out because you just sent me money. I'd love some money. And I was like, I'm trying to give it to a battered women's sheltered ass. I used to love doing this when I was active. I would go to like, you know, like Barnes and Noble or something. They were like, Oh, would you like to buy a coffee for a troop?
Starting point is 01:26:04 I'm like, I am a troop. Can I have a coffee? And they're like, Oh, no. It's like, Oh, thanks. That is like the perfect fit. That is a family guy. Skip or Lois is like, they're like, would you like to buy a cup of coffee for a soldier?
Starting point is 01:26:19 And he's like, she's like, yeah, sure. And then like it pans to some guy, pans to some guy in the middle of Iraq. And he's in a firefight. And they're like, Hey, Stevens, a lady bought you a cup of coffee. And they just throw it at him. He's like, ah, bug. And then he did it. I mean, no, he's doing a bomb disposal.
Starting point is 01:26:40 That's right. He's disposing a bomb. And they're like, Hey, Stevens, he's like, yeah. They bought you a cup of coffee and they just drop a cup of coffee at a bomb guy. One thing I just, I laugh at all the time. And I guess we'll like, I guess close out with closing remarks after that is America's very short-sightedness where we fought Al-Qaeda for a long time. Hey, but it gets better.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Yeah. So Al-Qaeda in Iraq became ISIS and Al-Qaeda in Syria became Al-Narija front. And then when the Assad government was getting toppled, we're like, who's this new group calling Al-Narija front? Let's just start supplying them with weapons. You dipshit his name. Dude, people forget that we gave Osama bin Laden the Stinger missiles in the 80s. And then like 10 years later, he's doing his thing in 2001.
Starting point is 01:27:34 It's like fucking wild. We gave Saddam the key to the city of Detroit in the when he did the Iran-Iraq war. We suck at looking to do good things against the Iranians. All right. Yeah, motherfucker. It's so funny. It's there's that video of George Bush Seniors. Like this will not be another Vietnam.
Starting point is 01:27:55 And then it just it's a clip to two tanks racing. But all right. Yeah. So I guess, you know, we'll close this out. It's been it's been a minute, but well, everyone, this is a kid bag conversations. This is the new direction for the page. Cody, if you want to start plugging the. You know, like an erection of discord and those things.
Starting point is 01:28:14 So yeah, no, Patreon and Discord are ready. Matt's just got to look it over. He's been busy at work. But once that's up, we're going to have a movie nights come into Discord. I'll put a movie on. We'll do book club book club this month of March. We're going to be doing Matterhorn. It is the tale of Vietnam Marine or Marine Vietnam officers, whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Really great book. I absolutely love it. The guy who wrote it says it is a fictional tale. I don't think it is. I think it's a self tale because in that book, he tries to kill another officer and I don't think he wants to go to fucking Leavenworth, but he says it was a autobiographical, there would be like 90 percent of it blacked out. It's just a neighbor to here.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah, he tries to go as commander in that book. And then I caught him on the history channel talking about like the intensity of the Vietnam conflict and like that motherfucker didn't write a work of fiction. But no, we'll do Matterhorn March. We got Patreon, Discord, Matt and I got to figure out game nights, but there's going to be a lot of stuff going on in the kit bag. We're not just a news and Intel place like come hang out, come yell at us and prove us to us that we're wrong.
Starting point is 01:29:24 We'll do $50 hangouts and I'll do clips. And so if one of you guys are like, Cody's absolutely stupid and I'm going to prove it and I've got a 20 page PowerPoint, I'll throw you a PowerPoint on the Instagram. I don't care, but going to be a lot of stuff coming down the pipeline. So stay tuned. And then, you know, eventually, you know, we got some merch stuff planned. I mean, we have a little logo.
Starting point is 01:29:43 How do you guys like the logo? I mean, MacGumbos, I hope you guys got the reference, but merch is a thing. We're working on that coming out. And then maybe national level pop ups. Like, Hey, by the way, we'll be at whatever, whatever. Indianapolis on Friday. And so if you want to meet up and like shoot the shit or something, I don't know why that just popped in.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I was thinking about like dumbass Midwest cities. I don't know if you've ever been to Indiana, Indiana, but it's like nothing. Oh, look, Indianapolis, nothing. Corn. Yeah. But, uh, yep. So everyone, I hope you like the new direction and we'll have the Patreon bonus episodes coming out on Sundays or no, Wednesdays, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Wednesday's Patreon Sundays will be the new, the standard regular free one. And then we also have a subset coming out. It's probably going to be bi-weekly or the analytical hot takes longer, more fleshed out than, uh, shit, like it's banned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we appreciate all you guys coming over with the Exodus from the last page and hope you stick around.

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