Kitbag Conversations - Kitbag Conversations Episode 6: The Dirtiest Dingo
Episode Date: April 3, 2023Talkin Aussies and parties with The Dirty Dingo (@the.dirtydingo) ...
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I don't feel like I can be anything more than this
I don't really want to be anything more than this
I just wanna be whatever you want me to be
I don't wanna have a soul
I don't know what I am but I want you to show me
I don't wanna have the capacity to feel lonely
I don't want you to just try me so I'll feel better
I don't want to leave this moment forever
I don't want to leave this world with you
I want to become something better with you
I want to pop our bodies into broken shells
I want to lose ourselves forever
I put it in my mouth
Hey everyone, welcome back to KitBag Conversations
This week we're joined by Cody again
And a very very special guest, the dirtiest of Dingo's
Dingo, how are you?
Hey man, how you going?
So for everybody, Dingo is...
The guys are gonna laugh at it, the girls are gonna be like
I bet he's super hot but they don't know what I'm looking at
So it's a mirror, it's a mirror, that's how hot it is
Hair comes to the same way, mustache
It's the bizarro, Cody
Don't go on those
We were talking about...
Don't go lazy, go lazy, just do the copy and paste
I don't know, what in Australia, what in the US?
That's pretty much it
They'll never find each other, the internet
They'll be like, no...
So your page is mostly human
And I don't think anybody understands that human
Is basically just talking to people
Getting them to talk about stuff
And tell you dirty little secrets
But you have to be an analyst, one, smart
And two, you have to be able to talk to people
And those two things don't fucking go together
So explain how somebody who is interested in intelligence
And bringing this into your life
How do they come out of their mother's house
And talk to people?
To add on to that for the listeners
Intelligence analysts are usually socially reported
And don't know how to talk to people
It's like, how do you get this guy to be a human
To get someone to tell him his dirty little secrets
When he doesn't even know how to talk to a girl who's drunk
You're like, alright, come on
So, human is the oldest form
It's one of the oldest professions besides prostitution
As soon as people could bang, they were banging
As soon as people could talk and get that leverage over someone else
They started doing that
So, yeah, human is a funny one
Because you have to be really good at talking
Getting people to like you, build that rapport
Which a lot of people can't do, naturally
And I'm just a big shit hogger from way back
No trouble making friends
But on the flip side, I was a combat poor dude
And then I was injured a few times
So I went to intelligence analysts
Changed my MOS in your equivalent
And became an analyst
And I was an analyst for a year
And I was at the worst fucking analyst
And I was like, what is this mean?
I was flipping out
And I think I ended past the course
Because I had that combat experience
This is what a choke point
This is where I would lay an ID
And help dudes play in operations
So one of my friends
He was a human dude
This is a way cooler job
Do not wear a uniform
Do you want to go out for coffee
And just talk shit
He was like, yeah, that's a really great job
And then I applied for the course and got the course
But, you know, military, human
Strategic level, human
All have different sort of approaches
And sort of stuff they want to answer
So they are refined
So they receive a difference
So in my sense, in the military perspective
It was probably mostly tactical
And operational human intelligence
Like, where's the bomb?
Who's this dude?
Where did he live?
Kind of stuff as opposed to like
This is how the government thinks about Australia
Sort of stuff
And then all the human instructed for a bit as well
And I failed so many people
Because like, you know, we get this scenario
Where someone's crying
And you're like, oh, that is really bad
Kind of reminded me of that meme
Where it's like, oh, I just said to your boyfriend
What are you doing this Friday?
It's, you know, to be honest
Like, in Australia, we open it up
It's not just intelligence
Cool people like anyone can apply and do it
In the military
Also, this is, so you get that
Big, wide, cool people that apply
So it's like, does it make sense?
No, dude, it makes better sense
It's the same thing here
It's the same thing here
Well, I mean, the same thing on Oregon
You go to explain them
Yeah, for the Marines
So you can't enlist straight into the Marine Corps
To be at humans
Or you have to be at least an E-5
Or a sergeant
And so at that point
But they open the pool for everybody
Where it's like, you could be an intelligence analyst
You could be a grunts
Or you could be an avionics mechanic
You could just go into human intelligence
But that's what they like
Is you got this wide pool of people
Who go through that rigorous selection process
And they get into humans
And they go, I think it's like nine months or something
But like, once they get into the Marine Corps
They're like, you're good
Like, you're set forever
You never wear camis again
You're set
But yeah, it definitely makes sense
To have that wide pool
It's like, yeah, I mean
We're just not going to take anybody
To go talk to a drunk girl at a bar
We're just going to have the guys
Who actually know what they're doing
We're going to have the guys with the ribs
Not the Army
Dude, not the Army
They take them fresh off the street
Like, oh, you want to be a human
Or go in there
And then you're like dealing with a kid
Who like, tucks his shirt into his underwear
And is like, I'm going to talk to terrorists
Networks
Yeah
Dude, you can't even talk to like
Another human being
And it'll make you so fucking
Because like the Marines
And you guys sound like you have higher quality personnel
We don't
It's just like
We're just throwing spaghetti at the wall
And hoping it sticks
So like
Not to like tell the same story a hundred times
But when like I met Matt
I'm like, holy shit
It's an intel analyst
That doesn't just breathe through his mouth
Like if you wanted to kill
Half of the U.S. Army
Intelligence personnel
Just be like, all right
Breathe through your nose
And your nose only
Like half of them would
Seriously though
Oh, man
And so like
That's another thing is like
You guys don't have as many people
In your military
No
No
I was just pretty small
Pretty modest in comparison
And then like
Thinking about our capability
Is even smaller again
And that's why I'm like
I don't want to divulge too much
Because you can easily tie back
Hey, that's that piece of shit that's
I know that guy
Well, that's the guy
Yeah, like that guy's so fucking hot
Whatever they think of me
Probably not the latter
But it's a really small community
And then there's
And then there's
A lot of burnout as well
Because especially when like
Afghan was at its peak
Dudes were doing
You know, six months on
Six months off
Six months on
Because we didn't want to
Put crap through the training cycle
And then get to operations
And then absolutely fuck it
You know what I mean
So
So it's just
It's been personal
And you know
With human intelligence
If you're talking to someone
You might have really good rapport
Build it really up
And then your replacement comes
And then you think you're a good operator
But the guy just doesn't click
So it's just one of those things
And that's one of the downsides
Of human intelligence
It's so subjective
And so personality based
You know
What works one day
Might not work the next day
And you think about
The cultural side as well
Especially in the Middle East
You know
They fucking love me
Because you know
With a tan
I could be one of their homeboys
So they really like that
And you know
Patriarchal societies
Are you going to get a female
To replace you
You could
But you might not
Be as effective as
You know
As you could
You know what I mean
There's no way to put
Our views on that
You know what I mean
I do have
I do have a question on that
So like coming from the
American standpoint
It's very much like a strategic focus
Like we have
Strategic focus on Iraq
Strategic focus on Afghanistan
But talking to someone like
Canadians or yourself
Or New Zealanders
It's like
Oh we have one very very
Small problem set
Like that's ours
Like no one tells us that
That's ours
So how does that work
Do you mingle with like
The Americans
Or is that just your
Sandbox
Like for example
You know
In
Afghanistan
We'll give an old province
And it's like
This is your province
This is your baby
You work with that
And obviously we need to
We're a bunch of
Poor people
And it was like
Hey America
Can we have some of your
Helicopters please
Can we have some of your
M777
Please
And then
Because we've got that stuff
But if we send it
Then we'll have nothing
That's fine
Or patrol too
Like
Like Stalingrad
Like I had my stire
And then the guy next to me
Is carrying three magazines
And he's like
Bye bye bro
You just take my raffle
Okay
For the motherland
I thought that bad
But
Yeah like
Yeah we
We
Heavily involved
With the 5R community
You know we
Take New Zealand
Who we consider like
Our little brother along
And stuff as well
Whether they want to or not
Like you're gonna come with us bro
And we do a lot of
Training exercises with them
And US as well
So
I've had exposure to
You know
Conventional US Army
Human operators
Some of their Special Enforcers
Guys who
You know from
Unconventional also
Has a human element to it
And then sort of the more
Like strategic organizations as well
But not so much
Because you know
They're focused on you know
You know
Strategic
You know
Objectives
We're more the tactical
Operational
So there is a crossover
Like sometimes
We might pick up some
Strategic reporting
Sort of thing
No
It's so weird
To hear you say
Like you're borrowing
Because it's like
When it comes to like
Because I worked with the
Australians
Like I was under an
Australian Commander
For six months
Like the general
The G3
And his Exo
All Australian
Colonel
And generals
And so it's like
We respected the hell out of them
So it wasn't like
You're borrowing
It's like
I think we'll piss
Some fans off
But it's like
You know in like
The Hungarians of NATO
Can we
Hell
Can we do this
It's like
Yeah
Here's a hand receipt
And I'm going to be watching you
And I'm going to tie it down
To your belt
And then bring it
Right back
But it's
It's so shit
Because like
When the Australians
And the New Zealand guys
Were hanging with us
Were like
Oh you want a cup
You want to
You want to come
Hang out in the helicopters
You want to ride
You want to do this
Like come on
And then still
Half our shit
Would go missing
We're like
The Australian guys
Leaving like
With one of our hottest chicks
And like all our magazines
And some sappy plates
Like get the fuck away
Like no that's our brother
Okay he could do that
It's cheeky and fun
But if you do it
It's gross
Like
We had an American analyst
I think he was from 205
Attached to our
Team in Iraq
And we corrupted that poor kid
He was a specialist
He was a really cool guy
And he was like
By the end of it
He was like
Can I say the C-bomb
On your show?
It's a cultural appropriation
You can't say it
You can
Oh nice
We thought he'd say
Can't
The way Australians say
It's kind of like
Like K-A-R-N-C
Like can't
Like you can't
But when the Americans say
It's so edgy
Like you really emphasize the P
Anyway so we corrupted this poor boy
He was from
California
He was a really nice guy
And by the end of it
He did
Nine months with us
So he did like
Three months
The rotation for us
For six months with us
And he was kind of like
Out
Out L.O. to
To the U.S.
And he went back
To his unit
For like some training
Or whatever it is
Just for the day
Or overseas
And he came back
And he goes
I just got charged
I said the C-bomb
In front of my S2
And she didn't like it
And
I just got in
A week of my pay
I'm so sorry
Like
Anyone in trouble
Because he replaces
American flag with
Australian flag
And he can go up
Now like
You fucking turncoat
That's the
You know
You expect the beauty
Of my fucking
English
I'm dead
Dude that's
That is
No because like
For
So like
Cultural
Thing
Like American women
Like the C
Oh
Saying the C
Word to an American woman
It's going to
It's
It's go time
It's
It's go time
It's instant
Like okay
We're fighting
Like
But you guys
Say it all the time
And like as bros
We understand like
You know
It's like
Fuck you
Fuck that
This is shit
And then you guys
Throw in the cunt
And it's like
Okay whatever
But like
If I
If you'd have sent me that back
Because I was
An S2
I was a captain
And I
Killed
Like
There's so many
There's so many levels
Of cunt
Like
There's a saying in Australia
That you call your mate
Cunts and cunts mate
So
It's like
Being a shit cunt
Is like
You don't want to be a shit cunt
It's like a bad thing
It's like
Oh you know
You're a good cunt
Like oh yeah
Who's a good cunt
Because he gave me this
Like I'm not a good cunt
And then this is like
You stub your toe
On the corner
You're like
Cunt
Fuck
But it's like
You know
I mean
Women don't really say that word
It's kind of like a naughty word
But
I always try and encourage
My wife to say
And she refuses to say it
She won't say it
I'll give you $100
I'll give you a background
It's like flat out
I will not say it
But
Oh man
One thing I do
I'll go ahead man
I was almost going to
Derail the entire conversation
To something more serious
Please
Please
Yeah so
I think one
Thing that's really funny
Is when people talk about
Like the invasion of Iraq
And Afghanistan
They usually talk about
America number one
The number two the English
But you're like
Oh yeah
Australia secured
Almost every single airfield
That we didn't
They were like
They did
A lot of work
And everyone just
Kind of like
Forgets that they were there
And so when it comes to
Like everyone says
You know
Go fuck the French
Whatever
Yeah they were there
In 91
They weren't there in 03
But the Australians
Kind of did a lot of work
Especially like
The Australians
They were
They were there
They were the third guy there
They were the third guy
Like
The third
The third like the mind's eye
They were like
Especially you know
Invasion of Iraq
Or even like
Early Afghanistan days as well
In the yesterday
Played huge roles supporting
You know
U.S. special forces operations
Like there's so many books out there
And I probably won't do it justice
Because
I was never a special boy
But
The you know
The long range reconnaissance
That sort of
The intelligence reporting on
Like we're being loud
And was
Let's try to find
During the
During the clearance
Clarence
Stuff like that
We were kind of like
Forgotten like
Hey man even in World War II
Australia was in the Pacific
We were
We sent out like
All our experienced soldiers
Went to North Africa
And then we were like
Oh fuck
Japan's here bro
So we sent all like
Yeah
Hey man
You know
Here's two weeks training
How to use the bolt action
Good luck son
When they're
While we're trying to get
Regular backing
There's so many good stories
In Australian soldiers
Fighting
Huffingtonie
Seoul and islands
Like you just don't really
Hear that
And that was one of the worst
Theaters
You know to fight in
Like
In the Japanese
Were absolute
Ruthless bastards too
During that
During that war as well
But like you know
Hey we're good now
We're friends now man
I
I
I guess
I was thinking in my head
I was like it's weird how the
Because we want to do
The 5.5 podcast
But it's funny how
It's like
The New Zealand guys
Seem to be like more British
Like they tend to
Tend to be more well mannered
Tend to be
More
Delegate
Same as the Canadians
They're kind of
They're like the middle ground
But the minute the
United States and the
Aussies get together
They're like
Dude we just become best friends
Like
It's like the 5.5 community
It's like
Alright America
You're on the left
And Australia's over on the
Right
Because if you two sit together
There's going to be a
Fucking problem
And every time I've been
Worked with them
Like you said
Like it's
It's weird that nobody talks
About you guys
But then when we do get together
It's like a fucking
Banana
Fest
Like I know the Navy
Has that thing
And the Marines
Like all of them are like
Please God
Send me to Australia
I would do
Anything I want
Yeah
The Darwin Rotational
The Darwin Rotational
Force
Yeah that's the
Like the old
Like when you're in boot camp
From the Marine Corps
They're like
I hope to God
You get sent to the West Coast
To Australia
And the Australian girls
Hate Australian men
And they will throw tennis balls
With their phone number
Onto the ships
Because
And the stigma was
Australian men don't
Understand what foreplay is
They're like
Americans do
What's that
No but it's
And our
The American women
Want Australian men
So it's just like
We're kind of like
High five
It's the women run
It's a cross start
In the back
I always post with the Darwin
When like the
Obama came over
And like announced
Hey man
We're going to
Leave Marines here
Like this is interesting
And then literally left
A thousand Marines
In the face
I was like
Oh what
So it's like
It's pretty cool
Like you came
Like I just got back to my stand
And it's like
We need you to be
We need all these guys
To go back
To be like
Sit next to a bunch of Marines
And we get a photo
Obama is going to make this big
Announcement
And it's
Marine presence in Darwin
And it pretty much like
Like the population
Pretty much doubled
Like Darwin has like
A population of like
Six people
Half of which are
Going in
And yeah
The ladies love them
Like especially the
Backpackers as well
Because Darwin has
I don't know not so much
Because of COVID
But like
Backpackers season in Darwin
Is like
English
Irish
Scandinavian girls
Working in Australia
Saving up heaps of money
In their travel Asia
So like
They're literally
Marrying
Marines
Going back to the
Space
Like yeah
I don't want to live here
Anymore
Pee-pee man meets
Pretty much
Like yeah
When I got up
In Darwin
I was like
It's like an
Opening scene
I'm just looking at the
Fan
It's hot as fuck
I'm like
Drunk
And like Darwin
Yeah
That's too
Fucking Darwin
Seven chicks
The one dude
There
I was like
I was 18
I was like
I was like
I'm never getting
Fucking lady
I'm just
Bullshit
I'm going to compete
With that big
Sexy American man
Yeah
And ringing
Like hell
Like no one's watching the video
You're just going to the bar
Can I interest you
In second place
Like fucking
Can I be there
Please
No but it's crazy
What I was
Working with
Not working
But it was like
We did a joint exercise
With like
Brits, Canadians
And Australians were in
Were there
The Brits
Very much themselves
Did want to mangle
Canadians were like
Under the British wave
Brits
So funny
Like
It's like
You look like us
You act like us
We just had the beauty ads
And then
Oh man
It was so funny
Where did Texans
Of the British Empire man
We're just like
When you just say
I'm flying
Boba Cube
Bees
And bitches
That's what it is
And I've talked about this
Like if you ever go to
Like a US
Like arm services center
It's like
Literally the trailer
Park show up
Like all our
Infantry kids
Are like
90% of the
United States Marine Corps
And you
United States Army Infantry
Is just Alabama,
Georgia, Mississippi
And trailer parks
From the rust bell
And so like
You're like
We're the Texas
Of the British Empire
It's like
We send nothing
But Texans
Like
So it's like
Like I said
Like Matt
Sitting there at that
Training exercise
He's a kid from a
Hortown in Michigan
Tennessee
It's like
You spot the Australians
It's like
Eh
Like finger wave
In each other
Information
Like
You know you're going to
Lose half your pay
I've already accepted it
It's a fate worth living
Like I already
I already have an STD
Alright
I don't care
I leave the handrail
Coming in
To pay myself
I've been saving
For this training
Exercise all year
I've got like
Three grand
For back pay
I just remember
Like this
We were like
Like I was underage
We couldn't drink
But everyone
All the foreigners could drink
If they were like
18 or whatever
And I remember there was this
British officer in line
To get a beer
And this Australian
Like Lauren Lissett walked
Straight up
It was like
What do you do?
And he was like
Fuck you
And I was like
There it is
There's a chance
To reverse the wall
Like
You know
Australians charge the model
Themselves
Of the British Army
You know
They make the officers
They're probably officers
And you know
They're Lissett
But at the time
It's going to change
Australian officers
Are a bit more relaxed
And like
You know
You don't have a bit of
Bance with the guys as well
But as soon as they try
For like that
British officer mentality
It's like
Yeah
Like that's
No
There's a sergeant
We're pulling a sergeant
Like you did that again
Fuck you
You hit it
Like
There's a chance
I'm like that
But um
Kind of like the E5, E6 equivalent
And this major comes in
And um
We were in plain clothes
And I was giving him
Like a KBB lady brief
And I was like
Oh this is our coverage
This is what we're doing
And he was like
Um
He goes
Oh where's
Where's your officer
I want to talk to you
I was like
Oh I'm the dick
Come on
You can talk to me
He goes
I'd rather talk to an officer
And I was like
Well you can get the fuck out
I'm like
I don't want to come to you
He's like
Who the fuck are you
Dude who
We were talking to
AFV about that
AFV recognitions
In
The British Army
And he's just like
It's
I didn't know this
But it's like mostly
Not only heritage
But like the sand
His voice
He's like
He's like
The top 10%
Go to the paras
And I was telling him
In a podcast
Or something
We're playing games
I was like dude
That explains a lot
Because when
The paras
Trained with the 101st
One time
I was talking to this
And I was like
Hey man
You want to go like
Work out
You want to go
Lift weights
Like what's going on
Like there's a fucking
Kiss
Yeah you want to kiss
You want to go
Like I did
Wrestling and combatants
In the morning
I was like
You want to go to the
Combatant room and fight
And like he's like
What the fuck's wrong with you
I'm going to go for a run
I'm like
A run
That's like the lame shit
You could do
Yeah
Officers run
The enlisted list
Yeah
I was telling
AFB about that
Like it's
You got to know
How to fight
If you're going to be an officer
Like because the enlisted
Will beat the shit out of you
On your birthday
Yeah
On like
Any promotion event
Like catch you in the hall
Like nothing
Enlisted love nothing more
Than beating the shit
Out of their officers
In the US Army
It's like a past tradition
Just like
Catching the lieutenant
In the open
Like a little pig
Scared little pig
It's not my story
But
Oh yeah
It's not my story
But
It's not my story
But I remember in 2-6
Like Six Reg
It was like golf company
Or something
The sergeant in the shop
Was giving
Like he was giving a brief
Or something
The lieutenant just wasn't having it
He's like
No I don't like the format
Or something
And they were getting in an argument
So the sergeant took his blouse off
He's like
We doing this
The lieutenant's like
So the lieutenant's like
Sure
And this sergeant
Beat the fuck out of him
The lieutenant came back in
And the Lance Corporals were like
Don't tell me what to do
Yeah
Yeah
Wip it out
So funny
Bring the rumors out
We're doing this
I think it has a lot to do though
With like
Historical context
Of it
Like you were saying
Like New Guinea
And rough fighting
The Japanese
And it's the same thing
For like the American Army
Like how we reformed
Like the
American Revolution
The Indian Wars
Like it's just
It's fucking chaos
Like if your officer dies
And you have
Like if you're the British Army
And your officer dies
It's like
Oh shit we gotta go home
But like in
New Guinea
In all the Boer Wars
Where the
The Anzacs fought
It's like
Yeah the officer's gonna
Fucking die
We expect that
Like we have
To do without him
It's an urge
Come on sir
Get up front and lead us
Dude
Dude even
Chesty Poehler
Like Chesty Poehler
In a Marine Corps interview
Was like
I had the highest casualty
Rate in officers
It was the greatest day
Of my life
And I fell down
I was like
What the fuck bro
No there's the
There's all those old stories
About like the French
And Indian War
About the
Like Iroquois
What not
With the French
Attacking the British
And they would kill the officer
Immediately
The grunts just didn't know
What to do
It just got slaughtered
They're like
Well I wasn't told to shoot back
They just get hacked to pieces
But then they try that again
With the Americans
They're like
They just keep coming
I wasn't listening to him anyway
I'm shooting anyway
I want to get around
Yeah
It's like
Well you think like
Australian culture
We don't have that
Real distinct
Like the upper class
Middle class
Low class
We're kind of like
Just one big shit class
And
Out officers
Are pretty much
A guy that you'd go to
School with
You know what I mean
Like you'd go to do
And come out
As a lieutenant
And it's like
Hey I remember that guy from rugby
We're in the British circles
You know that
Most officers are highly educated
Got really good schools
They've got you know
Family
Family money
Not all the cases
We're talking you know
Like generically and historically
But that's all the cases
So we've never had
Like a lot of officers are usually
Like farmers
Or just like
Big boys
It's just like
I want to punch
I want to get tricked by the recruiters
Like hey you're going to be an officer
Like we need you
You're going to be an officer
I guess I will
But you look at the infantry
You know cavalry
Engineer officers
They're usually like
That's the top percentages
That come out of our
Officer school
At the top
Top students
You're going to get their pick
Infantry for example
And so they're usually like
Fit guys and girls
Really motivated
Really smart
So you know
You probably won't get it
As much there
Like when I was in that camp
We out
Patrol base
Minerals
Infantry captain
It was a great dude man
Like he was little
It's like
You call him
Like the battle dwarf
Because he was so little
But he was like
Fucking
Like he was a really good dude
Yeah
It makes sense
I mean like
I think it's like
The vast majority of our
Officers come from ROTC
Which is just
You know
Four years college
It's a program and then
The whole time you're competing
Like you're competing
Against each other
You're competing
In like your school
And then every other school
And then
West Point obviously
Gets active duty
But it's kind of like that
It's kind of weird
That you said that
That your guys are
Do you have a military category
Or no
Do they just go
Yeah
Yeah
So I understand
Royal military college
Is like the
Officer school
It's kind of like the
Sandhurst agreement
But not as nice
It's in our capital
Which is a shit old
Canberra
Fuck yourself
And it's just
Like it's 18 months
It's 18 months
Officer training
Then you go
And do your core
Specific training
Okay
That's the reason
Why they're so good
Is because like
When I'm 22
When I'm 23
Getting out of ROTC in college
And hitting my first
Like my officer training
As an intelligence officer
That's where I met my wife
So I had already had
Like four years of college
Partying and all this stuff
I'm like
I'm tired
Grandpa
And so like
Dated my wife
And like married her
And all that stuff
But then you meet like
West Point kids
Who are kind of
The British aristocracy
If you will
And it's like
It's like meeting
A home school kid
It's like
What the fuck
Is wrong with you
And they're just like
Captain
There's the house
For four years
Nobody let me go anywhere
And this is my first
Taste of freedom
Who
And you're like
What the fuck
Is that
And like they
It's awful
And so like
It's weird
That you said it
Like that
Because it is
It's like
The ROTC kids
Are out there
Like
Alright
I guess I should get married
And settle down
I did all my partying
Like the West Point kids
Are like
Finally a taste of freedom
At 23 years old
40
Not 40
Like 36 year old
Mustangs
He was like
I was a grunt
I did my
Six pumps
And now I want to be
An officer
But then there are either
A
The best officer
You can have
Or the worst
Because they understand
The mind
Yeah, they understand
The mind of a
Lowered-listed guy
He's like
He's trying to hide
Like go get him
It's like
Oh, you're identical
Bring back your receipt
The best of the unicorns
The best of the unicorns
The best of the unicorns
The like
Officers
Kind of like
I think what Cody might have been
Right
An officer
With like
A soldier's mentality
And then you just corrupt him
Like
I was a corrupter once
And then I met
And then I met
The real cool
Lister guy
And I like
And now
I hit ceiling rank
At major
You know what I mean
My
I mean
I've told the story before
My favorite officer
He was also
The worst officer
You could have
Is like
He's like
What are the
Doves
We'd have like
Once a week
And I would sit behind
And they were like
Or at S2
He's like
Do you go outside this morning
Is it hot?
They were like
You didn't tell me anything
And he was like
Yeah
And he was like
Yeah
Dude that
It was
You hit the nail
On the head with that
Because by the time
I was
Like
I would walk in and stand at the back of the room and be my slide. I just stand there and people be like
What are you doing? I'm like trying to remember which guy this is that we're killing and they've been I'd like flip through
I'd flip through like two slides forward three slides. I was like, oh, yeah, I remember this guy
Okay, so this is what's happening. And they're like, what's wrong with you? I'm like, I am so fucking done
Like I'm so burnt out
And I'm like watch out for that machine gun here. He may move down there, but he's definitely gonna be like right there
And they're like thanks as to you're you're doing good. I'm here for you
I just like throw a slip of paper of grid coordinates to like the actually pilot and the A10 guy and then they come back
They're like, he was right there. He was right there shot him with 20 times 30 millimeter. Fuck him up. I'm like, oh good
I got two more of this tonight
I'm just completely done. Oh my god, that's that's that's that's what happens the enlisted get there
And they're like sir, there's an easier way to do this and like by the time the stick is fully out of your ass
And you're like, just show me the way
My dreams died a long time ago. I'm not gonna be a special forces Ranger Sniper like Tim Kennedy
The best I can hope for is a Folger sponsorship. I'm not getting black rifle
It's just me waking up with a cigarette in a trailer park like filters the real man's tree
But now that I've made a shitty Folger's joke
My question to you is you sit here and you watch America from a distance a lot of people and our
Group want to know
Not that want to know but like what do you see this? I was like is the border crisis really a border crisis
The South America all that bad. Should we be looking at China like as an Australian with a drinking problem?
What should America do tell us a wise one well take a knee
Take a knee son
Well, the media that we get obviously just makes everything sounds so much worse like oh my god
There's like children are dying every day in the US. Um, you know the borders
Infiltrated and you know, it just said obviously it's worse. Yes, man
I you know, I kind of don't believe it one of my best friends like met an American and moved over there married her
And there's like a fire firefighter in Louisiana is a fucking really good dude
And he just says like panel it's like what you guys hear about Australia like we've got a dictator for a PM
You know, you know cops are bashing everyone for leaving the house drink over like it's just you don't believe the media
It's all full of shit and then obviously by talking to each other
You realize what the reality is and in like in regards to like what's happening in the world today like for us
You know, we spent so long focusing on the Middle East
And that's because you know, we're just keeping that relationship alive for the firelight community like like hey US will
Thank you guys again. If you look after us, it's what will three happens. You're so sure, but yeah, we'll do that
But like, you know, you know, China is is a huge threat for us and now government right now is pretty left-leaning
So they want to make sure we're not putting ourselves in a bad position security
Why and that's why you see like the relationship US really being reinforced, you know, with the Marines up in Darwin, you know
office training training teams throughout the
Southeast as well as the Philippines like we do joint training US, Australia, Filipino, you know
Combat shooting ID training all that sort of stuff. And then you know, we always send guys to US
for training as well. I missed out on so many good opportunities to go over and do some joint training because
What you guys offer is pretty good. Like you guys have the kit and training and like you give fucks
We don't we don't really necessarily give fucks until it's too late. Like when I went to Africa, like I had the worst body fucking
I didn't even have like a proper start my rifle. I was given this shitty little stock site and when I did a handover
So the searcher at the time
There's like he brought his ACOG I literally took the ACOG off the guy's rifle that I replaced and he went back and took
You know for his old shitty scope want to flew off and our body almost fuck
I look like a turtle man and
When the special forces guys got better kid we they gave it to us like he's Eagle Marine
He marines platform, which is I think what the Marines used for a long time as well that brown that brown kid
And I was a god send those. Yeah the black
I can move this is fucking great. Look at me. Like we're so reactive
Yeah, and it's just surprising that this office thing is kind of like
Proactive in the sense like yeah, we're prepping even though I'm getting stuff until like now we could probably fly to Mars
No, it makes sense because it's like
I've talked to once you talk to like like you said you talk to a couple people and you move around and you
Like make friends you start to realize like your average American infantrymen gets a shit on a training compared to most
Other countries like we complain about it
Like oh you got to go to the electronic shooting simulator for two hours before you go to the range the next day
And then you do the range and then you do your marksmanship tables
So you're like you're shooting like zero to 300 meters and you're doing like moving shooting
Then you're doing like bounding and then we like work our way up to the shoot house and like you're saying you're like
I go shooting before I deploy and that's about
You fucking what?
There's something I definitely want to uh
Like building on top of this is like, you know, it's china thread is the border of thread or anything
But within the last 10 years australia has built like two what lhd's the helicopter carriers the
gambra and the other
Adelaide is that it but um, yeah, it's like it's like is there a naval arms race in the pacific because
Japan or china got an aircraft carrier australia said they're going to make two little helos
India said they want to make an aircraft carrier the japanese
Went around the constitution to make one
It's like
It's like yeah, so is there a naval arms race is
australia trying to get ahead of the curve because they also last year just made that weird nuclear sub-deal with the u.s
And the the brits they're like, yeah
They're coming here, but I mean if
For the listeners back in the day, um, there was a big rift between the west
And new zealand because they said no nuclear weapons in this country. They're like cool
You have a port that can hold nuclear subs. So thanks
But that was back in i must say the seven news of the eighties, but then yeah, like what's going on there?
Yeah, so I think the writing is a little war man
Like the future potential conflict will be island hopping. It'll be
Jungle fighting it'd be like real nasty shit
So we're kind of preparing ourselves but we created an amphibious infantry battalion
Which was super rare. Like we re-rolled a unit and said hey guess what guys?
You're now answered and we and they're now attached to like our forces command kind sort of level
And yeah, we re-rolled them. So all the infantrymen are recon
Um amphibious qualified kind of like like a quasi marine battalion, which we never had really really had before
um
And now we started to do more amphibious
We've got the two lhd satellite in canvro, which like work when they want to and we know we test them constantly when there's like a
Cyclo and bg whatever like yeah, let's send it out. Let's test our readiness
You know, we're testing like it was on the news the testing apaches on them as well for a sort of a strike capability because
The target that we brought a fucking stupid like it's a french platform with us
Computers, so we just butchered this this this kit and it's an absolute rubbish piece
It's like even though it was tested in like african the french and apparently had some really good results
The tiger with us is just just a joke. So we went we go on apache
We go on black hole. We're trying to make it sounds more interoperable with the u.s
because
What we see is probably going to be doing that conventional
sort of uh, like almost like world war two style island hopping, you know light infantry units, um
Now the we've probably put a more of an emphasis on our infantry fighting vehicles and tanks
So the sort of two platforms are looking at have like 30 mil cannons
They're huge like they're hardly reconnaissance vehicles, but you can tell they're light enough to get on a on a lhd
Ship it to a shore, you know supporting infantry in the jungle or real dense terrain
About uh, f-35s are the lhd is capable of watching those bad boys
But no, I doubt it like I think they'll I think my opinion like this is my opinion and i'm not a fucking expert
By any means, I think the lhd has become a floating f.o.b
Um, they'll be like, you know, the launch troops from become like a hospital sort of ship as well
And the f-35s are going to be kept to the northern australia and just protect the borders fly around long range patrols or support
Um, where they can in in the near region
Yeah, I don't see those. I don't see us getting like
you know
aircraft carrier where we could reenact the top gun in like, you know where aviators
I thought it was really good
But there was that f-35 with japan that will like miss the landing pad and just went straight into the water
And everyone's like
And and the chinese race so fast to scoop it up. We're like, no get the fuck away
We're thinking about it man. Like it's you know, like that guy that got arrested in australia the u.s
Teaching, uh, the chinese had a new, uh, launch planes off ships. So think about the u.s. Have mastered that like the u.s
And uk have been launching planes off ships for the fucking ages like, you know, since the 40s
We we've never really done that. That's the capability that we we may have had at one point and I've lost and it's not easy
Like just think about the trend those get these pilots capable to take off land on the ship. That's moving
um
Yeah, it's just no it may main feat and I don't think australia has the appetite to start raising that capability
anyone can just leverage the u.s
And then and you can see that china definitely wants that capability to extend their reach as well because they don't have
A huge ability to force reject luck. We don't think china's the only way to travel like i've got to be that happens
Because I was all fucking in just gonna throw like shoot at me
But we obviously don't you know strength. I think there's the ability to force reject
But they'll just want to project far enough that they'll create a buffer that we won't get close to the chinese mainland
It's i'm looking at the canberra and i'm i'm not a
Not a navy guy at all. Um
It's for those that are listening and can't look they're just like in the car driving imagine an area aircraft carrier
But it's like a chode. It's it's like short and fat
And it's got my favorite thing. It doesn't have like a straight ramp
No, it's got the the lift. Yep. It's got the it's got the ramp
Yeah, it's it's based on an old uh
I forgot the name but the australians bought the designs from the spanish and when I was important spain
I saw the spanish ship and I remember like we ported our rink and dink little boat next to it. I'm like, it's bigger like what?
That's like australian put all that money into this
Why we stuck it for a few minutes like we I don't know what we used to run m1
like
The what they caught the car that I learned to drive in the m1 was really let's drive it was in vietnam
It was shot with an ipg
really well did
And sent back and we still use we still use it at that point and uh, it had a plarket
But yeah, this thing was shot in gongtao province
19 you know 68 whatever
And then we're like, hey, we need another it's something to replace this
I don't know dear
Let's get two buckets. We should mush them together and then we'll put a brand new tonne on it and then there'll be a good replacement
And then actually pieces of shit like like we were like, and it's just something to ukraine
And that's what you see in ukraine now the australian
Buckets like they're not designed for combat and like shut shuttling
Candidings back from the front lines as well. Yeah, they're perfect for that because it'll protect you from small arms or whatever but like
762 took me to 762 go into sustain fire. We'll eventually just fuck that thing up
bad
It's it's just a box
It's just it's
And if you'll tanks outside man, if you'll you see the fuel tank
fuck
I'm flaming me for fucking six wheels bro for a can of raviolis
So something something since you know, you're an australian. I think
You might know more about this and
A lot of people always talk about like app like vietnam
They're like, oh, you know, there was americans vietnam that there was nobody else there to support us
But he's like, yeah, the australians and new zealoters were there
but like
Like grandfather was in vietnam what not he had much high respect for the australians
But at the same time the australians in vietnam came right from malaysia. They were fighting the malaysian emergency with the brits
They were fighting the very very similar coin operation where the brits idea instead of like shocking all like ours was was like
Oh, let's just poison all the water burn all the food and exchange a bag of rice for a communist or two for two communists
Like something like this and the australians came to vietnam. They're like, hey, here's all of our tools
We know how to win the u.s. Was like just go burn this village down and you're like
Yeah, it's right. It's right in vietnam
We're like really great jungle fighters. Like the thing about our training area is the most big jungle
So we had like the jungle patrolling jungle fighting pretty much squared away. Um, it's just
I guess the appetite for the war sort of diminished like in the u.s. Over time and it sort of degraded amorell
um
but
You know, I went I went to vietnam in 2014 with a with the tunnel rats association
So all the you know, common engineers went into tunnels and stuff. So that this thing was like, hey, man two engineers forever
You know, let's let's roll. Let's go. Uh, it's what these old boys probably haven't been back since
Uh, the vietnam war. So we all went over there
About about two weeks and it went to bung town. The australians had the bung town province and we started off, uh, you know
Side gone and uh, we just like, you know, and it sort of just
Parted on but we went to all the big battle sites. We went to the long tan
I think I've heard of the battle of long tan. We're like a company of australian infantrymen like bought off a couple thousand nva troops
um
They made a movie about it
And it's what we did went to the you know, the kuchi tunnels and all sort of stuff because all the guys I went with were engineers
And tunnel rats and it's kind of so we did something very similar in afghan
I got such a few times we're looking for caches. We're doing like
Comma engineering shit
And um, yeah, it was it was a trip man. Like, you know, it was pretty cool. Those old boys
Fucking felt like they were 20 again. Like one there's this one guy who's like a
He was a captain in the war and he retired as a little colonel and like
We know we were there to escort them as well because they're they're they're they're in those
60s and 70s and something comes in their 80s
And we're like, hey, man, we've got to the next bar. It's like son. I'm busy like, yeah, that's great. Look
We've got to go to the next bar and it's son. I'm busy and then I look down and he's getting a bj under the ball table
And like like they take four they'll pack
You know in in the in the 60s and 70s, man
They're having such a good time and then like we went to the range
And then uh, that is like because the Vietnamese army is pretty poor. They're like, hey, you can shoot a gun
Just you know, give us some money for rounds and I wanted to shoot the m1 grant
Like I was like, this is fucking sick like banner brothers. Let's do this
I just want to hit that ping and get rock hard and then um,
when the other boy spent like 200 Australian dollars, it's like 6 000 US dollars and um
But he got like 200 rounds of link 760 link for the m60 and he just yeah
He just wanted to go get some and just fire 300 round burst like when he's 60 when he's sure
And all the old boys loved it. It was like great, but
Yeah, it was pretty cool, man. Some of them like refused to have lunch with the mda
um
VC that
That they were there as well. We had like a joint lunch. Sometimes it didn't get off the bus like it was just
It was just a hard war man. Like those guys naturally got
pumped
It's it's a weird thing. Yeah, I mean like they did that for um, I remember there was a show for the americans that did that
uh, they like brought the americans back and I've seen it where they've brought the uh
The guys who were there uh christmas for one war two when japan attacked hong kong and they just like brutally
Assaulted the british american canadian australian dudes there and they're just like they'll they'll go like right up to the japanese
Like you wore criminals. They'll be like nope
Give me the fuck out. It's like it's like really uncomfortable, but I think if uh
I hate to say it, but like
it
It's kind of weird, but it isn't like you know, like some people die
So a lot of dudes get tortured, but I think if you like nobody asked me
But like if you had the chance to go back and have lunch with the towel band like shit
Yeah, I would because I'd look them dead in the eye like you won but
I get a lot of your fucking friends though, right?
Like you won but like you didn't beat me like
Like how do you like that'd be like the ultimate shit talking like
Yeah, but I get it. There's there's a really hard felt feelings and it's hard to fucking
What a way to kill the vibe, you know go from like drinking to machine guns to like
There was that just that movie uh, uh the railway man. You ever see that one?
Yeah about the uh
The brits in the singapore and they got captured by the japanese
So the japanese made him build a railway because that was her whole job
And uh, I mean for the for the listeners out there. I'm not here to be like a movie reviewer
But it's like this brit was like I hate him. I hate the japanese so much
His wife's like hey, guess what I got little uh, baby, uh, kony for uh christmas
And he's like what a train sentence just like watching a train go around the christmas tree
The one scene where he throws him in a cage, he's like get in the cage like I
Do like the human thing as well when we're in vietnam all the intelligence fighter and I was just a young dirty dirty staffer
We're like chilling at this in a hotel at bung town and he's like too smoking hot
Wester looking chicks come up and then they had like Russian accents and like hey
What do you fit young men doing in vietnam and then we realized like vietnam is kind of like the cancun or barley for like
You know, the strong like the barley is like when we send out go for cheap holiday and like for like thank you
If you guys like you go down there drink beers and get on sit on the beach. Well for vietnam. That's where you know russian
ukrainians usually go to party
And we don't just do smoking hot like uh, east european chicks like what are you guys doing?
And when they realized that we were losers and nobody isn't like
Fuck they just left and that's it. Yeah, we're here. Where are you ukrainians?
Do we teach ukrainian to the beat the beat means students here like this is dodgy
This is be right here. I'm fresh on the nbc. You know
There's a bunch of white guys just spinning around
Fucking nothing. Let's get out of here. Come back. I'm sas
You guys want a manual on deck corn. Come here. Come on. It's
People stand back. Whoa
I'll show you some ttps. They'll let you down and they'll make you you know to satisfy but hey
It was like honey pot. It was honey potting 101, baby
uh
We were just talking about that on another episode that was talking about all the uh, you know
Chinese females that are in the dc area going to college and yeah
It's like oh you want to find the spy look at the one taking a selfie in front of benagon. There she is
What's that? Was that the u.s. Senator that was like that used in chinese ladies
It was his uh, what was it cody like his personal aid or something in california
Okay, yeah, no, it's uh in california. They had like three californian representatives wrapped up in chinese honey pot scandals
And like uh, mitch mcconnell. Nobody ever mentions this but mitch mcconnell's wife is uh, chinese as well
um, who else there's a lot of honey potting going on in local politics not, um
Not federal politics because they know the game right so like in texas
There's like 11 counties that control like oil prices intended or not to say like oil prices in the entire state because there's so much
Oil in these places and so they're like constantly the fbi is like quit sending
Nines and tens to the middle of bumfuck oil country texas
And it's like matt and i talked about this if you just send like an average chinese woman
Who's like a six or a seven like just average and be like, oh, okay
She's just kind of coming through but it's like oil country where dudes are talking about like hot beers sleeping in their trucks and like
It's just miserable existence and there's just like
Chinese honeypots walking around trying to marry like local
oil barons to like raise
Prices it's like what the fuck is she doing?
Like i'm pissing in a beer can wearing underwear and boots covered in oil
Like if if a match gets lit half this county's gonna get blown up and she's just like any you have those
Got any uh stocks any bonds and he like get the fuck out of here
I'm missing six teeth and i've got a heroin addiction
You don't belong here
It's it's it's yeah, it's bad and it's it's mostly local politics and it's uh
man
It's funny that you said that like you don't think like
You mentioned that aircraft carrier is like that dude who did get wrapped up in china. I saw that but it's funny you said like
the
Like the australians may have lost that capability like it's it's weird to me because like I just
It doesn't strike me as something that couldn't be fixed within like two to three years, right?
Like the australian army like you're saying like it's down and it's it's it
You know, it's
How do I put this?
Um, it hasn't received the love and attention it needs to fight china
But the thing about like australians is like you guys don't have a warrior culture
Like we've talked about this before on the podcast like americans are not a warrior culture as much as they put on punisher schools and like
My second amendment patriotism. It's like that doesn't you're not a we're like a mercantile society full of fat people
but it's like
In in the army and the marines we like transform people to become you know the army
Marine recon like we will haze you and push you into that that brown peg into that square old to the point where you cannot
Reintroduce yourself in society. You're like
Now
I mean and you're right right like if you've ever tried with the australians or like you realize like there's a certain amount of
soldiering that you guys have about you so it's like
I I think that you guys can you know take your
Take your guys who come in haze them properly and then because you're english speaking and you already are part of the
us it's like australia uk us like we all agree like we're gonna have nuclear weapons
We all agree we're gonna work together. It's like dude, and you wouldn't have to twist anybody's arm
If you told me like hey, I need you to sign up for one more year and go teach intel the australians, bro
My bag would be packed. I call my wife should be that we're going to australia shove a dog in a suitcase
Let's go like I'd be there tomorrow to turn you guys up like
I mean it doesn't get any better than that
So I don't know I don't feel like you guys are behind the power curve like if you told us like hey
Who wants to go to australia for the next three years and make sure they're ready to fight chime out like
We would be sifting through like there'd be dudes who are retired like let me back. I'm coming
I think especially from like the american standpoint is because like we do this like
You know six months on six months off for the army
It's like what 12 months on 12 months off something like that
But if there was like a permanent personnel like you were going to australia until they know what they're doing
Like how many americans would sign up for that
I go back
Like you're going to all you're going to australia. You're going to fucking
Iraq you're going to be there forever until they're good to fight the chinese
And yeah, dude if you're you grab like a 22 year old who's been bored. You're like oh go to australia. Yeah, I'm good
Yeah, I know how to I know how to shoot a machine gun. Yeah, I got it
But it's all well and good having these really good strategic sort of plans but
It's like also for the australian massive retention of recruitment problem
Like the culture has been absolutely gutted and you see like look at our
Advertising for to join it's like hey, you want to play volleyball and get like you know get rental allowance?
This was like the worry mindset fucking strip and that kind of happened over time like
When I joined it was like yeah, fuck it. We're here to like to kill people
Yeah, we're here to the shoot guns to blow stuff up and then towards the end was I was leaving
It's like, you know, we're one inclusive family, you know, the the chief of defense force fans
Um death symbols
So if you like what the companies that have like the mascot like to punish the skull for a mascot
I think one of the commander companies had a commander stole as their mascot had to get removed all these things get removed
You can't have like, you know p-t shirts to have like a skull on like it was just like
It went over the top man to our there was an old group that were a skull. They're not too cool
So
The symbolism thing is real because in the like
You look at footage of like marines rolling into a rack in o3 or something like they got the decepticon signal
They got the cobra symbol. They got like just cartoon villains. So like we are the villains and we know it like we're just gonna
But it's like it's like today like oh you listen to one irish rebel song and you get in trouble
I
Mean it's
Isn't that just like the weirdest thing though is like by like gutting all the family like like we're one big family
Like yeah, we were a family when I was covered in baking powder and forced to go in the shower. All right
Like that's how I become part of this family
Like I was like a little cadet and like when I went to aerosol school
They made me sweat a bunch and roll around in like the sand pit and they're just like look I made a sugar cookie
And I'm like
Is that a thing this is just a quite like me thinking out loud something sugar cookie
So like when you go to 29 palms and you're like a fucking retard and you're like, you know
Something or you steal something
It's called like would you rather get paperwork?
It would you rather get sugar cookie and you got to like sprint up and down like the desert hills
Until like because the sand sticks to you you're like I'm you run until I'm tired
And you just get crystallized and you're like you look like the sand man from spotter man three. They're like you good
They had us they had us through because it got banned. This is how old I am
I went to aerosol school 10 years ago
they make you do like the overhead arm clap and
They made us do four count
101 so it ended up being like 400. It's like 400
Arm claps above your head and so by like 300 you're like
clapping in front of your face
82
83 and then they were like
Making a kid get down on his hands and knees and bear crawl around the entire company
And then he's like falling on his face and stuff and they're like that wasn't a bear crawl
And he's like, what do you mean? How do they crawl around the whole thing? We're still clapping by the way
We're still clapping and they're yelling at this kid for not bear crawling and then they're like start over back at number 70
So, you know back on number 70 and they're like do a bear crawl and roar and so he's just going around the entire formation
Forever
And then as people laugh they're like shut up you bear crawl and I'm like, I don't want a bear crawl
And so you're like kind of jumping jacking to get your arms above your head
And then when they were done with us and like everybody's done being little bears
They're like, all right go sugar cookie and then come back and go into lunch
And so you go roll around in the sand and I can bag a sugar cookie
Because you covered in sweat and they make you roll around in the sand pit
And then like you said, it's like I've never felt more like a family my entire life
Well, we used to cage people so if you're leaving the unit or you're in the unit
we'd put you on a big cage padlock it and
Like hose you down, cover you in like rat pack food or MREs
We put baby powder on you, we'd throw like like we'd do an empty bin on you
And then we'd parade you around the unit like a like a caged panda
And he's like, yeah
And then like it was it was all and like this rain and remember we we we we we boxed we caged our our
troop commander
So his young LT is posting out and then you put him in with parading him around and the CEO was walking past us
He's like, hey, hang on boys. How are you?
I mean, you know provide did a salute as we pushing this guy on a trolley jack and put him parading him around
And we left him in his buns to cook
and um
And then each of us were like you were upset if that didn't happen to you because
You knew the guys liked you to do that for your farewell and if they didn't do it
Then you knew you weren't really liked but um, they got flushed pretty easily
I think someone got caged and he's older brother was like, you know, okay or something
It was like, oh shit. You just coaching my brother
Dude, yeah
but
I met an officer when I was in like intel school training and he was like talking about that and it was
It was one of those things like everybody kind of hated him as an instructor and he was like, yeah
I was an armor officer and they he was basically telling us like you don't have to put up with hazing
The the guys tried to shoot a hole in my hat and I didn't let them
He's like they tried to like put my hat on the end of the barrel and shoot it
I didn't let them and they didn't uh
They tried to take my shoes and hang them off the gun turret and drive around and fucking the army base
I didn't let him. He's like, you don't have to put up with that. I was like, they secretly wanted to murder you
Like
Let them do the traditions like
Oh god, like the amount of times I've like gone to the infantry land and like
Seen a kid take to a flagpole. I was like, hey, what's up? He's like, I didn't pass Ranger school. It's like, that's right
Bye buddy, like it's it's it's a good time and that's how it's I guess it's like that's not how you make you don't make a family
By saying we're family like we'll make our own family and like
Here's a question. Here's a question
So I I know this is how it isn't like the American army and Marine Corps and whatnot when you're training to go to
Marsoch when you're training to be a ranger
You like you'll see guys rocking on the side of the road like miles and miles
Do you guys do that too? Do you drive around a base and see him? You're like fucking pussy?
You're a sick pack, bro
Words of encouragement because deep down you wish like I wish I was motivated enough to do that
Life is good like when you get a so called as an operator like life is pretty good
Like all of my friends have did it and they loved it. Um, I was just
And I was just like a big sticky boy like that just want to
I'll be honest, but I like working with them. But yeah, you see them all the time
That's what you need is you need it to suck so much that the only thing you have is like
Forward like if you if you like if you have a good life. It's like this isn't so bad
It's like you're not gonna sit there and like grind your face into the mud like I just need to get the fuck out of here
Like nobody ever sits there and it's like no
I was in a good spot mentally and spiritually and then a selection
They're like looking at their fat wife with four kids and they're like
I gotta get to retirement
And I don't want to be I don't want to be with the sappers anymore
I'm gonna go to selection
I make something of myself
Dude, it's seven o'clock quit working out go home to that that bitch in the fucking trailer. No
Man, is that a so is that a is that a thing?
I guess like in the australian military because if you have like like an illicit guy you have like just a fucking
Rick is a staff sergeant like he just he keeps you working late all night and whatnot
Did you guys you sit raw going like he doesn't like his wife? She wears the pants at home
Oh, yeah, they used to say she would shit like you know if you think I don't have a family to go home to
I don't want to go home. My wife hates me because I think it's cool, bro. My wife loves me
I'm like I sleep in a race car back to you
I sleep in a big
But you know like you get to a point you get to a point where like sergeants and above you're guaranteed
You know same with it like my skills you're gonna lose your wife eventually
I want you to start progressing up the senior into your channels because you're you're bitter hardened angry individual
And then let's just start losing your hair as well. You know, I've got a beautiful head of hair, man
I didn't know that's why I didn't want to go up the chain
Oh, it's it's it's bolding. It's bolding. It's it's back there. It's
Cover it with gel do it the trump come over
I got we got like
It's each point
Um, man, all right, so I I have a question so going way back earlier talking about like news and media and whatnot
There is a lot of conservative nuts in the u.s. Who look at sky news and go like the Australians are on points
They know what they're doing
Like what is your opinion on those guys because aren't they banned from like every major platform now?
Who's that?
Sky News
Oh, it's guy news. We have like a sky news channel. It's going you just throw it like it's weird like news
isn't that big in australia like we've got
Three tv like seven like three three major channel
They have like the news and then you just like look at this puppy or this kid's sick. He needs money or this is the weather today
You know news in australia like for me
You know growing up. It wasn't that big if you think like we weren't reading and watching it like we're like
Kind of goes with that culture. We like ignorant like, you know, ignorance to blitz like we're just just cruising along
We'll hear the big news like are they trumps about to be indicted or something like that?
He's about to get arrested and then we'll laugh about it. That's the daddy's like, yeah
We're like idiots in the back water. Just chill until it gets really bad. What do you mean? Japanese took Singapore?
Oh
American army and marines on the trench line just like holy shit something shuffled australian shows up in the trench like
The fuck is going on like we're fighting like who like what the fuck?
I got another one
so
I mean we only have a few minutes left here
But um remember a few years ago in new zealand was petitioning to change their national flag because they were tired of like showing up to like press
Conferences with the australian flag
Fun fact like they they had the southern cross police right it's really like you see red
It was like the union jack red southern cross and the federation star. I think the the kiwi flag was
Created before we went blue. So we stole it like we stole it. I thought yeah, this is ours now little brother
It's like come on give the controller back man
but like
Let me talk about changing our flag to you like to go
It's a bit of a heated
You know, I mean like, you know, am I not invested in the flag like I do respect what represents that same time
I don't want to be some giant pink dildo flag. You know what I mean?
I want to do something to be proud of to be proud of
Yeah, look, you know what you have to be proud of the greatest sigh up to ever encroach through this great nation
bluey
It's a good show I watch it
I watch it too. I've got a niece. I just remember like holding her and she's a bluey. I was like, I fucking love bingo
You're the kid like that. I want to go to bed like shut up watching small bluey
I'm watching more
Oh, man, but
What's it been? It's been like what because you for the listeners, uh, he has the free zoom
So it's only been like two 30 minutes
I want to say I want to say uh, 35 minutes of pop. So we're pushing like yeah over an hour at least
I think we're good here if we want to like start wrapping this up
But oh, yeah for the listeners. Are you banned on instagram now? Like what did you post?
I think it was um, so you the post on like, you know, russian foreign intelligence services
And then uh, I posted it. I thought it was pretty good
A couple comments one guy got like a real spicy comment on it
And then I just couldn't post and they actually started shutting down
And then really had to wait 24 hours and it started working in here
So maybe they were checking out the algorithm and saying, oh, how spicy is this but
they're like
I just started it because
For like for the lulls like I gotta be bored. Please be cool. I want to start feeling like I didn't see too many human stuff
And I don't want to get too specific
But I also love shit for all thing in person means
So
I don't want to be like another me, but it's so fun
No, yeah come come in and do what all con does and i'm calling him out because he probably doesn't listen or he does
But he'll like it's the best to like have like the brits get in a fight the afe will get in a fight
We'll come in
Fuck it up some and then like you guys wake up and like all cons done
It he'll just immediately jump in the fight and some kid's phone is just ringing 24 hours a day
As the world turns and 5i is just commenting. He like quit. He's straight up quit
And then he's like waking up the next day and that's like kiss me. Fuck it. Kiss me
It's 24 hour operations and then I'm gonna call that the story so do whatever you want. We'll be here for it
It's new I don't know where it's gonna go probably just turn into like pictures of me naked as I showed off. I don't know
I do like your introductory post of just like some blonde dude with the worst haircut you're like
I'll just put a wig and put some lipstick on Tony
Do it. It's not as bad as the shit that sends in some of these groups
I get creative
But all right. Well, yeah, I think this is about to kick us out. So everyone. Uh, thanks for listening
This is the dirty dingo at is it just the dirty dingo? Uh, that's it, man
All right. Yeah, I'm calling you regret it
Well, uh, yeah, cody you want to close this out? We got less than a minute. All right. We got less than a minute. So
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