Kitbag Conversations - Proto Kitbag 5: Late Chats

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

Three days late but who is counting.  In this episode we talk about how the Taliban might be in Afghanistan. Additionally, Cody and I talk about: - Taliban TTP's - The Ukrainian Mafia  - And Chechens in Afghanistan 

Hello everyone and welcome back. You're listening to Cro-Tone Report and we're going to do it a little differently this week we're talking about a variety of topics, including the recent post talking about the Taliban fighting with the Russians in Ukraine, as well as several other issues. So Cody, how are you today? Just wonderful. Let's cover our bases and talk about, just explain that post generally,

because some people may not have seen it, but you did say you received a lot of hate. So just explain it, tell them what people were saying, and then let's kick this off. And I'll start talking about why the Taliban are in Ukraine. So I've been traveling a lot and doing a lot of reading and kind of sat down and thought, man, there's gotta be something, there's more going on

in the world than what we're being led on to believe. And so I was doing a little reading and reminiscing on posts that have been floating around the internet for a while. And I remember a Al Jazeera post, Al Jazeera post that talked about how Russia was meeting with the Taliban leaders in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan and all those cool little stand countries in Central Asia to essentially finance Afghanistan because the U.S. was withholding their treasury. And then from there I thought, oh yeah, remember that time Cossack Gundy posted and it was like September or October of 2021 where four Russian IL-76s showed up in Kabul almost immediately after the U.S. left. And I was like, hey, I'm not a smart guy, but I think that might be something like,

yeah, humanitarian aid, yeah, that's cool. And then it's just the steps in motion of the US leaves a power vacuum in Central Asia. Who's gonna fill that? The Chinese, I don't think they wanna get bogged out, but the Russians have been there forever. So I think that they would want to put their military presence in Central Asia and really kind of establish that they are either A, the lifeline that the Taliban need because yeah, they've just

been dunked on for 20 years, 30, 40 years, but they need some kind of external support. And then I thought about Chechnya and how the Russians fought two wars against these radical Islamic insurgents within the 90s where they were trying to break away and do their own thing and Russia really heavily subjugated that. pretty sure that some of these Cheshire fighters ended up in Afghanistan fighting with the Taliban and training to fight the Americans because they fought the Russians. So they know how conventional forces work. So then I thought, okay, so let's kind of like paint the picture here. Oh, we left in August. Cool. Makes sense. Then from there, I'm like, okay, the Russians showed up in September, October timeframe, showing that they're here to help. And then there was the Central Asian States like Kazakhstan, who had that pseudo revolution in January where, hey, that's a real dense Islamic population

in Central Asia, that's their whole thing. And that I thought if the Russians, I understand, because they spent 10 years in Afghanistan, that these kind of like a radical, unorganized, unstructured government with endless funds shows up in Afghanistan, they're just gonna spill over to the next country, go, yeah, let's do it again, because I thought of Chechnya.

So from there I thought, all right, so the Russians show up in Central Asia and say, yeah, there is absolutely no way that the Afghanistan situation is gonna spill over into my underbelly because all these Central Asian states border my country, I don't need that. Think Cuban Missile Crisis in the 60s. Cuba can do whatever they want, but they're starting with the Russians? I don't think so. So from there, I thought, okay, so let's take this to the next logical step. Ukraine has been,

their borders have Russians getting built on for the next or for the last nine months and that the Chechens were immediately called in from the caucus and I thought wow there's a lot of pieces here that I don't think anyone really either a addressed or be really considered but if we're talking about a state like the Taliban who number one are unorganized. They immediately started shooting at the Pakistanis and the Iranians and the Kagisani and all these bordering states where all these states came together with Turkey to say, yeah, we need to contain this issue.

Let's set Shia and Sunni aside and really contain Afghanistan. The Chinese came in and bought all the mineral rights, but didn't send any military personnel because they didn't want to get bogged down in what we and the Soviets did previously. So thinking big picture, it would just make sense to say,

if I was a Russian going, hey, I'm going to invade Ukraine, this is going to take a lot of time. I don't need a bunch of interested individuals in my backyard starting a revolution or start instigating violence against the government because I have something else to deal with. So let's pay off the Afghanis,

Afghanis, let's grab a bunch of Taliban veterans who've been fighting for 20 years. They fought a conventional force. They know how to do this. Let's grab a few of them, dump them over into Ukraine. We'll mingle them with the Chechenins. And then from there go, yeah, I will give you money. I'll keep your country alive.

Keep fighting the Pakistanis, the Iranians. They're the ones that us really focuses on. Keep the us's focus of attention off of Ukraine and kind of have them fight a pseudo two-front war because the us is in Iraq. The Russians are in Syria. They already have a two-point front going on there. It kind of makes sense. And it's really hard to put all that in a

2000 character Instagram post, but it's something bouncing around in the back of my mind as I'm traveling and I thought, yeah, this might be real. So what do you think? So the only thing you're missing though, and a lot of people don't know this, is that for 20 years, we actually have been fighting Chechens. They were in Iraq, they still are. They were in Afghanistan. In fact, I've helped kill quite a bit of them. There were two units the Taliban had that were like their special operations. The first one was Red Cell.

They called them Red Cell. They had body armor, they had NVGs, they had PEC-19s, and for those of you that don't know, that's the little laser that goes on the end of your gun so you can see it under NVGs and other people can't. So also access a flashlight as well under NVGs. And so we have targeted them in Afghanistan. We have killed them. I've seen them firsthand, like what they're capable of. I mean, they will 12 red cell guys can take on like a company of Afghan soldiers, which isn't saying much, but the other one was called the laser units and they would use PEC-19s and NVGs to direct RPG fire. And so you'd just be like in an ANA base, a little Afghanian, and you wouldn't know it, but

there'd be a laser on you and all the RPG guys could see where the laser was. And they would just shoot at that, and just salvo RPGs on a location and move. And so they were very, very efficient. We tried hunting them and killing them but it's like, where does this equipment come from, you know, where do where do you get as an Afghan in the Taliban lasers, NVGs, helmets, training, body armor? I mean, you can say whatever you want about Pakistan or Iran, but it's like, would you give your next door neighbor that's a terror cell weapons? You wouldn't. And so it came from the Chechens. The Chechens had the training. The Chechens could be hired as mercenaries to train the Taliban, set up mercenary camps. They would act as snipers, sometimes as leaders. And they have a working relationship that goes back probably to the 90s, I'd say, under Osama bin Laden, when he declared jihad against the United States and then even against Osama

bin Laden versus the Russians when he declared jihad there. I mean, for those of you that don't know, Osama bin Laden from Saudi Arabia gathered all these Mujahideen fighters with his construction money from Saudi Arabia and the Shetjins answered the call. So I mean, this relationship isn't just 20 years old, it isn't 30, it's almost 40, 50 years old. And so when we say like, hey, there might be Taliban with these Chechens. I'm not saying like, oh, where's your proof?

I mean, they've known each other for 50 years. They've fought together for the last 20 against us. And so when we start seeing some of the evidence compile, for those of you who don't know, once again, it is very customary in Afghan culture to have sex with male counterparts. The idea is that, you know, it's women are for procreation, men are for fun, and there's a thing called a chai boy, like chai tea, though Afghan Taliban posthunes will rape little boys. And so it's what happens over there. And we have evidence, ask your local Afghan vet, he'll tell you it's a real thing. And we're seeing that come out of Mariupol. We're seeing that come out of what's some of the other

places that were attacked and then the Russians were driven back. There's raped little boys and girls. And it's like, I don't know if that's customary in Russian culture, but I know for a fact that I've seen it in Afghanistan. And so we're seeing something that's kind of, you say, what's your evidence? It's like right there. And I don't think the Chechens are all for that.

They come from a modern country ish. I mean, they sell their gas to the Russians. So I mean, the evidence is there, but you have to, many people just don't know. Like you were saying before we started this, a lot of veterans are like, I can see that. Well, it's like, yeah, because we've every now and then you're going to find some Taliban fighter who's just like crazy good at fighting and you're like, what the hell is his deal? Then you either kill or capture them. And you're like, oh shit, it's a Chechen. That's why. I mean, if you watch, I think it's either Restrepo or Korangal. They talk about it. Like every fighting season, the Chechens would come in during the summer to lead the Taliban and they would get money from the Russians to

kill an American. So I mean, Pete, like I said, you received a lot of flack, like, oh, show me your evidence. I received a lot of flack. I'm out here, a lot of DMs saying, I don't know what I'm talking about. And I was like, hey, man, let's just, let's think. Yeah. It's like, not even like, let's think. It's like, show me you don't know what you're talking about without showing me you don't know what you're talking about. Like, yeah, you're stupid. Like, guess you never, guess you didn't know about that working relationship.

And so, but yeah, it's crazy that you mentioned a Pakistani fight because I've been reading, it's a book called Ghost Wars. It's about the 1990s Taliban. And like basically after the Soviet Union left, somebody had to deal with Mujahideen, the Taliban, all these regional powers and power vacuum. And even the Pakistanis back then,

they looked at the Taliban and they said, we can't control them. Like the Pakistani CIA, which is called the ISI, they were like, we cannot control the Taliban and so if you want to segue into that I know you posted about Pakistan and Afghans fighting which is funny because for those who don't know eastern Afghanistan it's the Pashtun valley it's like the homeland of like the biggest, baddest Taliban fighters. And there's Kandahar in the south, which is like their spiritual homeland

of the Taliban. My wand is down there. It's where like a hundred plus British soldiers died. There's Jalalabad in the East, which is where only I think like in the 1800s, there was like a British chaplain who made it back to Jalalabad after Kabul fell. But it's like the Eastern part of Afghanistan is no joke, just Taliban central. It's the homeland, the spiritual homeland. It's where the heroin grows. It's historically where all the fighting has happened. Korangal and Restrepo, the movies that you saw. What's his name? Sebastian Younger.

Yeah, Sebastian Younger made those movies. He made those movies in Eastern Afghanistan. And it's no joke. I mean, it's where Bob Chapman was the only Air Force combat controller, like special operations. John Chapman, the only Air Force combat controller, like special operations, John Chapman, 20 years of war, the only Air Force guy to receive a Medal of Honor. That base and where he died, Eastern Afghanistan.

But yeah, Pakistan's got its hands full, man. You wanna talk about, you wanna talk about- I was reading an Al Jazeera article yesterday that said, there was kind of paint in the picture where it's like, hey, US left in August, almost immediately. The Taliban didn't want to play friendly with the Pakistanis where, hey, we can go way into the weeds of how the Pakistanis helped the Taliban.

It was like, hey, they immediately had a border clashes. And then they're also saying that's their whole thing. So it's kind of like a similar ideology fighting one another. So it's like, you can break it down that line. But then they started shooting at the Iranians and the Iranians were not having it. The Iranians were losing where Taliban would just walk up asking for food or whatever,

knock it what they wanted and just shoot up the checkpoint. And then the Iranians would just lose guys. So they were diverting resources over to the east to bleed in the middle going, Hey, this Taliban threat, we don't trust them. Like we funded them to fight the Americans. Cool. Americans are gone. Now it's our situation. So but then from there we have like Kyrgyzstan who during the withdrawal, Afghan refugees were heading to Kyrgyzstan, but they were armed. So the Kyrgyzstanis were shooting at them going like, you're not coming in. Where, hey, you can say

whatever you want about the Afghani president who flew with all the gold into Kyrgyzstan for sanctuary. Hey, that's cool. But you have all these, what's a good word to put it for them? It's What's a good word to put it for them? It's even unstable region that is now self-autonomous. They're autonomous after 40 years of war. And these neighboring states really want to contain that. And so it's strange, as I've posted about it before, that the Saudis, the Turks, the Persians who don't like each other, partnered with the Pakistanis and the Kyrgyzstanis and said, hey, let's contain this issue. So I thought, hey, why wouldn't the Russians step in and say,

like, yeah, I'll do this. I'll take care of this. Like, hey, keep fighting each other. I don't give a shit. But hey, keep this to a minimum, because I don't need this idea bleeding over into the caucus again, or central Russia, where not a lot of Russians live, but their military is very sparsely parsed or placed along that location, that if there's an insurgency,

it's gonna be a pain in the ass. So, kind of painting the picture, it makes a little sense. It's just so crazy. Like people don't understand, like there are rare, people know like, oh, Afghanistan has, I think you talked about it, like rare earth minerals, but it's like, not only that,

they have 90% of Europe's heroin trade is from Afghanistan. There are diamond mines, there's rubies, sapphires in the mountains. When I was in Afghanistan in 2018 to 2019, I was reading stuff about places we hadn't been in 10 years of like Taliban defending and attacking years of Taliban defending and attacking sapphire and ruby mines. And there were places we never fucking went in the mountains. And to give you an idea how high these mountains are and how vast this place is, these mountains were higher than helicopters could fly.

So the Taliban could shoot down at the helicopters. And so the vastness of how rich the Taliban are now, like they may not have the gold, but they have the heroin trade they have. And then, okay, first off, people are gonna sit there and they're gonna say, well, they made Taliban, the Taliban made heroin trade a we go. And I'm like, okay, let's say you grow heroin for 10 years,

and then you have stockpiles of it because it can be turned into paste, it can be turned into powder, it can be basically longevity. And you produce 90% of the heroin trade in Europe, and you say, hey, no more heroin production, we're cutting it off. What does the demand for heroin do? It goes up or stays steady, the supply drops, but you have all this warehouse full of heroin. You're going to make a shit ton of money. So it's kind of funny that the Taliban have said, hey, no more heroin. And they literally did this right after we told them, hey, you're not getting the gold, you're not getting the Afghan savings fund. So they cut

the heroin trade off, they have all their warehouses full. So the price of heroin is going to go up and the Taliban are going to become uber rich. And now they have all of that. Also, like, let's talk about it this way. I know for a fact that Taliban fighters have been seen in Libya and where all those African refugees leaving Central Africa, Western, Central, Eastern Africa, they're meeting in Libya in like Basra and Tripoli and scooting over to Greece and Italy and hey, if your number one customer is Europe, I think I would want to make a lot of points of contact in those transit regions going like, hey, give me a few dollars.

Yeah, you don't like the Europeans, but you're moving there. Hey, cool. Let's make a trade. And it's also Demolder. He just got deleted on Instagram, but he was the number one cartel Instagram page, talking about a lot of nefarious activities going on.

And RIP to him, his page got shut down. He's got a backup, make sure you follow it. But it's not too uncommon to find Central Asians showing up in Mexico going like, hey, do you want to partner up? It's like, hey, if the cartel has cocaine and the Afghans have the heroin and they're all going to the U.S.

And you're like, it just makes sense. It's a basic business strategy to go like, hey, let's partner up. You make some money, I make some money. It's cool. My government doesn't give me money because the U.S. took it. I'll take the fight to the U.S.

Like it just makes sense. Well, I mean, people will sit there and they'll say like, well, Islam prevents, you know, drug usage. It's like, well, if you read the book Ghost Wars, they'll tell you that it's like, okay, to grow heroin and produce it as long as you're not using it. And it's even better if you're giving it to Christians. And so it's like, bro, it's, it's not just like a war, it's a drug war on the enemies of the Taliban. And it's funny that you're saying like, oh, the Middle Eastern countries are now all, you know, a great alliance to contain what is the Taliban.

But I mean, even with the largest defense budget eight times over, the next guy, America could not contain Afghanistan. And it's insane to think that anybody could contain that thing. Like I was saying, just the vastness of this country, how rich it is in heroin, rare gems, rare earth metals. And you even said it yourself, China owns the rights to all of these and they are not going in there.

They're like, eh, this may have been stupid. And now they have like what an entire army's worth of American military products, M4s, 240s, night vision goggles, body armor, a couple of helicopters. I mean, dude, they're, I mean, man, let's take this one a step further. I know you're really dialed into the Russian deep state. I'll 76 is show up to Kabul. How much can you store in those? Okay. How much can you supply anything you want? So into the Russian deep state, aisle 76 is show up to Kabul. How much can you store in those? How much can you put in? You can supply anything you want.

So if the Russian deep state or the mafia is really running a lot of behind the scenes show who really, this is Alex Jones territory, put Putin in power, that's like, hey, if these guys show up to Afghanistan, they're not playing by conventional rules because they understand how the black market works. So if the Americans tried and the Soviets tried more of a conventional approach

to Central Asia, the Russians wouldn't do the complete opposite and be successful. So for those of you that just hire a few Chechens, can you talk to them and like, I know I'm Russian, but I know they don't like us and a lot of their kids have red hair. But if we have a couple of Chessians showing up, be like, Hey, remember us, we helped you time to help us. So for those of you who don't know, because we've talked about this in a different podcast, but it's when Matt sitting here saying he's like, aisle 76, aisle 76, like aisle 76, like the Walmart peanut butter aisle, like no, it's called an Aleutian 76.

This plane is the equivalent of like a C, like a C-17. It's got 230 cubic meters of cargo space officially, and it's got 110,000 pounds or 50,000 kilograms worth of cargo space. When this plane was designed, it was designed with a secret cargo space underneath the floorboards by the KGB. It is not on the official FAA cargo registry. What that means is when customss checks these planes, they only have to check the cargo. They do not have to check the secret cargo compartment. So these planes go into areas with like UNAID, let's say to Afghanistan, and then they'll unload a bunch of aid and then the cargo space will be empty. But what they'll do is they'll use money to fill the secret cargo space

with heroin and come back on the UN's dime. So the UN hires these guys to go in and deliver aid, but they fly out on the UN's dime with heroin. And so now that the game's gone, right, like there's no customs in Afghanistan anymore. And like what Matt's saying, the Russian deep state is kind of fucking desperate right now. And so you want to declare war on the West, I think, as summer starts to pick up, those IL 76s aren't just going to fill their secret cargo space with heroin, I think they're going to fill the whole goddamn thing with heroin that the Russians are going to buy. And those planes are not marked with Russian markings. They're not Russian planes.

They're like Dubai or some shit. And so they'll fly out of Afghanistan and probably into the Middle East or like Matt was saying Greece or Libya. Shit. I bet Libya is not even checking. So what am I saying? I'm saying the Russians could essentially hire these I'll solution 76 planes go to Afghanistan, fill up on heroin, go to Libya, unload tons of heroin, make a ton of money. All of a sudden you've got all these refugees coated to the neck and coats full of heroin, and then they go to Europe to sell heroin, one of the most addictive drugs in the world. And if we look at Europe, we have entire communities and say like Sicily or an island on the coast of Greece or Malta, Malta, sometimes Spain or was it Corsica where a lot of the refugees were heading out of Africa into France? Yeah, Corsica. And they have their own revolution going on right now. They're very anti-immigrant, but

You have all these islands that are like a one hop away from the capital And so we can look at that way or if you look at like hey the Russians secured every single airfield with the VDV which Let's take a step back The VDV were called in and the Spetsnaz were called in and secured every single airfield in Kazakhstan in 72 hours. Not a smart guy, but I think that it was a dry run for Ukraine. But it was, they just do a one hop from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan, set up some little locations. The Russian peacekeepers are in Kazakhstan. They fly over to Eastern Europe and they're like, all right, well,

now we have Taliban fighters. Like set aside heroin and all that. It's like, yeah, just pump that into Africa. Let's just see if these guys all get it up. And then let's just bring the fighters into Central Asia and then from Central Asia over to like the caucus. No, like, all right. Now you're going to go meet with the Chetians. And I know you guys like the Chetians and the Dagestanis and we're going to send you guys to Mariupol. And like you just said, that we have all these horrific inhumane acts being performed on kids where it's like hey

Russians were doing whatever they wanted with like girls but they weren't touching boys but in Mariupol specifically where the Chetniks are a lot of boys like young kids are being touched and it's like let's start let's start painting a picture here. Yeah, I mean, I kind of went off the rails with the heroin, but I mean, what's even funnier about that is I think Kazakhstan's had the same president or like a dictator for the last like, whatever many years. So it's like, I think that's a good assessment, right? Like you do a dry run on your buddy who lets you do a dry run. And I mean, Kazakhstan, if you just kind of cut the president or the dictator, whatever he's fucking called in. Let's like, like politically, as soon as the Soviet Union fell, all these Russian oligarchs were like, Hey, everyone in the Soviet Union, we're coming

back. Let's change it to the confederation of independent States, but it's a Soviet Union. So if you look at any Al Jazeera, BBC, Fox News, CNN article, they always call them the former Soviet Republic of, because it's almost like they're still, the leaders are still the same. Lukashenko in Belarus has been in power forever. He never left.

So it's not, it,'m trying to put this words. It's I think it makes sense on the Russians angle because if you have 136 different minority groups within your country and 80% of your population lives along the Polish border, it's like, yeah, let's kind of keep those guys to the side and pay off the guys we know who are going to be trouble and have them help us out. So let's take it a step further where if we have all these Taliban fighters that allegedly Taliban fighters flying in from Afghanistan and the Ukrainians were trained by the Americans, let's think TTPs, they probably have the same TTPs. So like this is how you defeat we don't, not everybody on here is a marine vet.

But yeah, I think this is people are going to call us crazy. Like some, some is a good case here. There's a great case for this. And I think once, so let's, let's take it a step further. All right. It's like, all right. Afghanistan fighters are there. They're bogged down in Mariupol. I mean, who better to make somebody quit than like, what would you call this, like, scare tactics, like night like.

I mean, there's many ways to make people quit right make a unit like as of and the Ukrainian marines, which are in eastern Ukraine, how do you make them quit, right? Like you can't beat them. You can logistically destroy them. But if you throw Chechens and Taliban in the mix, who are going to hurt women, children, they're just going to do everything to everybody. It's like, how do you break that? How do you break them? You send the Taliban in the Chechen. Yeah, let's take this one a step further. It was pretty well known that the Russians were calling in Syrians who fought in the land and who fought in Damascus to go into Mariupol and clean out cities. Yeah, they were sent to,

they were sent to what Harkov to, but it's like like, hey man, let's just get all these guys together who understand urban fighting, who understand how to fight a Western way of life and just dump them into a centralized area. They don't have to like each other, but I'm sure if we pull that religious card where it's like, hey, let's dump them all together, they'll figure it out and we'll pay them off and that's all that matters. Yep. I mean, we're trying not to talk about Ukraine in this episode, but I mean,

let's talk about all those foreign fighters, right? Like we've seen Syrians, we've seen Chechens, we've seen, did you say Libyans as well? I haven't seen anything about Libyans, but they kind of have their own thing going on, fighting between the pro-West and pro-East state. I saw a post about Ethiopians lining up at the embassy in Russia. That might come up too. But there are... Who are the ones that just fought the Chechens? They look Asiatic. They look asian, almost Mongolian. You know what I'm talking about. For those

who don't know, the front line is being manned in eastern Ukraine by what looks like Eastern Russians, they look almost Mongolian. And so- Well, they pull a lot of their guys from Eastern Russia, from like Vladivostok and the ones who were doing the dry runs with like Vostok 19 and all those good military drills with China. They were like, all right,

we did a military drill with China, let's try something different. But I mean, and then they got the Chechens. And so it's like, it has become a very much a, what's a good way to put this? throwing different ethnic cultures into into this different ethnicities into the meat grinder, besides Russians. So it's, to sit there and say, like to circle this all completely back,

to sit there and say like, oh, the Taliban, are you kidding me? That's ridiculous. It's like literally everybody and their mother is at Ukraine right now and they're throwing, the kitchen sink hasn't even been thrown yet. And I would compare the Taliban to like the mop, like where the Taliban isn't a stretch, you know,

like Jesus, but that is crazy. Right now, cause you talked about like a confederation of almost like a coalition of the willing going to Ukraine. Let's talk about how the U S fought in Afghanistan. U S was the overarching leader in Afghanistan, but you had guys like the Germans who showed up where we're like, Oh, we have labor laws. We can't really work. We can't work more than 40 hours a week. And we have guys who are like the Polish.

We're like, I want to go, but I'm legally not allowed to do anything. We have guys who are the Brits who are like, I'm going to do whatever I want because I can. So it's like the Brits, the Chechens. And then you have this coalition of the willing going into Ukraine, which is almost like NATO where it's like, Hey, the French, they didn't want to go to Iraq and everyone got pretty pissed. They're like, you're French.

You're a part of NATO. But then they went into Mali and did their own thing, but it was, it's almost like the, uh, what do they call it? The, like a counterbalance of alliances, where it's like, who do the US like? I'm gonna like that. Like other Venezuelans don't like the Americans. I'm sending Wagner and VDV guys to Venezuela to train them. Oh, America tried to send a parallel military unit from Colombia into Venezuela. Yeah. Guess who called them the Russians. So it's.

I mean, crazy. Speaking speaking in that in that regards, right? Like Afghanistan and the experience it was with like all those countries, because I mean, I can off the top of of my head the Czechs, the Romanians, Australians, a lot of Australians, the British, Lithuanian, Polish, German, Italian, I've worked with all of them in a combat environment and it is holy hell to get them to agree. Cause just like you said, like the Polish and the Lithuanians, we had to keep them on such a short leash because like when it was go time

they were going, they were running a hundred miles an hour and you had to stop, like stop hurting, like stop fighting. Like, and so the British dealt with a lot of the heroin trade. They dealt with a lot of the basically Taliban logistics. dealt with a lot of the, basically Taliban logistics. And so a lot of key players, a lot of different things, a lot of things going on. And it was an experience to see.

One of the greatest quotes, I'll never forget this, was a British, or it was a German being replaced by a British officer in Bagram. And they were eating lunch and I was with my buddy. And he sits there, and the German goes, whatever you do, don't try to tell the Americans to take a break or take a second. He's like you're going to be working 12 hours a day, every day, no breaks, no weekends. And the British guy's like, these Americans are crazy. He's like, they just don't stop. And he's like, the German goes,

the best way I can explain to you what it's like working with Americans is the Taliban are willing to die for their country and fight to the last man. And the Americans are willing to kill just about everybody here. So it's a match made in heaven that these two finally meet. And so he's like, this war will never end. And that was like, Hey, there was an old quote from the,

the Afghan war where it said, like, how do you fight someone who sees heaven at the end of a gun? Where it's like, you meet him with an American who is like, no, I'm trying to live. I'm not going home dead. Like, I will tell you, I have seen that in the reverse. And it is the funniest thing ever because Lithuanians are pagan and they still believe that dying in battle will get them a seat at the table with God. And so to see a group of people who are not real warriors, the Taliban, who are just bullies with guns, meet people who are willing to die, who want to die in battle. Holy sweet Jesus. It's a difference. Like the Taliban are like, Oh, we see heaven

at the end of the day. They don't, they really don't. I've seen true pagans fight and it is like nothing. We should just, if we really wanted to cut the defense budget, we could just give guns to the pagans in the Baltics and we could just hire them out. It's like Gurkhas. It doesn't make sense. You should not be able to fight that long. They're another story. They're insane.

They are one guy killed what? 17 Taliban fighters with a shovel. It's like, yeah, I mean, it's just like, I don't know if you've ever heard of the 18th century battle of the sheiks versus the Taliban. It was like 10,000 Taliban fighters versus like 12 sheiks. And the 12 sheiks killed like two or it was like a hundred and something. They were outnumbered, like a thousand to one. And they said, good odds.

Like, so it's like. But I mean, these aren't to go to circle it back, these aren't warrior cultures. Right. Like these aren't the Chechens today, the Chechens in Chechnya, the Kederovites, are not true Chechens. The reason why I say that is because the FSB and Russia killed off all of the Chechens in Chechnya, all those warlord groups, and then gifted Chechnya to the Kediro the Kediro family. So whatever you think about Chechens today, they're not the Chechens of the Chechen war. If you look it up, the FSB, which is the predecessor or the grandchild of the KGB, the FSB killed all of the Chechen warlords and then gifted Chechnya to the

Kaderos and then they took hold of Chechnya, keep it under control and give the gas to Russia. Well, if we're looking at it that way, if all these what do you call them, believers in Chechnya who are getting like ousted by the Russians are like, let me just go to Taliban, let me just go to Afghanistan. Yep. And just let me just take a logical leap that these guys are like, where's jihad at? Cool. Afghanistan. Yeah, it's cool. It's not it's not Iran because then you start believing religious lines where it's like she and Sunni really don't like each other.

And I don't think they're going to Iran to fight the Iraqis. So. Yeah, I mean, that's a good example. Where did all the true Chechens go? I mean, Afghanistan, yeah. Some of them went and found jobs and lives. Chechnya is right next to Georgia and Ukraine. Georgia has the highest percentage per capita of members of the Russian mafia.

So it's not unheard of that they might've gone there because I mean, there's a huge black market. I mean- Remember back in like what 2003 or four or five where a bunch of Chechens took that movie theater hostage? Yeah. And the Russian solution was just Chechens took that movie theater hostage. Yeah. And the Russian solution was just to kill everyone in the movie theater. They were like, all right, done.

Yeah. Terminated. But yeah, if we're like putting a bunch of pieces together here, it's like, it makes a little sense that these Chechens in the nineties were being murked by Russian Spetsnaz who were like, yeah, I'm just going to go, I'm going to go to where the spiritual home is. If Afghanistan's it, it's it, yeah, I'm just going to go, I'm going to go to where the spiritual home is. If Afghanistan's it, it's it because once, what was the name? Osama bin Laden called Jihad in the nineties and the eighties. He was like, everyone went to fight the Soviets.

The same thing was called back in 2003 when, or 2001, even the nineties, where it's like, Hey, they were bombing American embassies in Africa. And everyone knew it was Al Qaeda. It was like, hey, these guys are from all over the world. You can't really point them in one different direction. Yeah. I mean, but that's what makes a terrorist cell so great, right? As long as it's not like a direct line.

So as long as they don't, they shouldn't have to work together, these sleeper cells, creating all these random events and who better than Chechens, right? And so, yeah, there's just so many like, if you read a book, it makes sense that the Taliban and the Chechens working relationship that goes back 50 years, it's not uncommon to think like they might be there in Ukraine. But yeah, I mean, it really is just like, it's kind of funny, isn't it? Like Russia's kind of doing their own Iraq with their coalition of the willing or unwilling, we should say, because there's Syrian fighters, Chechen fighters, possibly. Reports early in the war that a lot of the conscripts that were being sent into Ukraine on the first wave with like three mags and T-72 with no gas and no weapons were from communities in Russia that are very historically troublesome to the Russian government. They're like, all

right, if Russia loses in Ukraine, we know that these areas are going to be very problematic. Let's get rid of the fighting male population first. So that's a lot of the guys that were caught by the Ukrainians early in the war were like 45 year old school teachers from central Russia. They're like, I was a teacher two months ago and I was met at my door and they said, you were in the army now and you're going to Ukraine. And so a lot of those first wave guys were able to say like, oh, they're conscripts or conscripts. Yes, they are. But yeah, it's almost like Russia was, I always say it like 40 chess that Russia was attempting

this grand scale offensive into Ukraine and trying to clean up the loose edges because they know that their internal population is not too pro-Russian. Like you have all these Russians, but 80% lives on the East, who are like along Poland. But the other 20% are on the West. My mistake. 80% are in the West, 20% are on the East. And like that 20% is historically not very nice. So it makes sense to round those guys up and forcefully sent them to Ukraine. But it's the coalition of the willing, almost essentially. I mean, they're really pulling that jihad card because I haven't heard the word jihad thrown around in like 10 years. Was it you that posted on Kroatoan where it was like the Chechens had a cleric in battle

rattle like full black plate carrier helmet and he was with the Chechens in Mariupol doing the whole Allahu Akbar, takbir stuff. Was it you or somebody else? I think we posted it in the group chat for sure. We posted it in the group chat. It was definitely shared in the group chat. I was like, it was either myself, Popular Front or one of those guys.

Yeah, how are you gonna look at me and say like, oh, the Taliban aren't there. And there's like a whole like, a la who are. Everyone always goes to Grozny. They're like, oh, the Chechens fought in Grozny. That was intense. That was one battle 20 years ago. Hold on. How was it different? The wars have gone on the last 20 years that are conventional.

None. But how many are isometric? A lot. A lot. So, how many different, let's take this one step further. How many Taliban fighters showed up with ISIS and Mali to fight the French because they knew how the Americans fought and the French fight the American way? I'm not a smart guy, but I think a lot of guys were trained in the Hindu Kush in the west to fight the French. Now we're talking about like a blurred line, right?

So it's like, but that's a really, really, that is a really good point. And for those who don't know, let's take a big step back because that's a really good point actually. I wasn't thinking about that. How many times, okay, so Al-Qaeda is what Osama bin Laden created.

Al-Qaeda was in Afghanistan and Pakistan border training. America goes in in 2001 to Afghanistan, they say Taliban, you are in control of Afghanistan. Please give us Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda is right there, we can see them, give us them. And Osama bin Laden with Al-Qaeda said, no, you are Pashtun, you must protect your guests. You must defend me, declare jihad, and fight the Americans.

And the Taliban gave it a couple hours, and they were like, we either uphold our traditions and values, or we give al-Qaeda to the Americans. The Taliban decided, hey, we will fight because nobody tells us what to do in our country, and we are poshtun, and we will protect our guests al Qaeda. And so the Taliban and al Qaeda kind of became like one after that. It's like this weird gray amoeba like two cells merging together type thing and it's like okay you just fighters in Africa, there's Taliban fighters in Libya, but it's like how many times have we sat there and it's like Al-Qaeda this, Al-Qaeda that, there's an offshoot of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, there's an offshoot of Al-Qaeda over here, and it's like Taliban and Al-Qaeda are

pretty much one after 2001, and so it's like anytime you see Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, it's pretty much the same thing because you, I mean they take Al-Qaeda as a terrorist group, Taliban being Afghanistan, but it's like, once you're Taliban and you leave Afghanistan, are you considered Al-Qaeda? And so that is a great point. In fact, we should clip that, that it's like, okay. How many people were on Al-Qaeda?

Like, dude, I went to Libya and it was very common to see ISIS fighters insert the ISIS in the day and Mizratin tribe militia at night. And it's the same thing in Afghanistan where it's like, it's really cool to be Taliban during the day, but what ISIS is doing at night? Yeah, I'm going to be ISIS. So it's, dude, look up a link profile or a baseball card of these guys. We're like, how many, how many IIRs have been associated with these individuals ever since?

How many of these, well, the funny thing is, is like the American system of justice, the justice American system, if you want to call it. But once you create another terrorist group, we have to create a whole new task force. We have to, like, it's like the Kurd. We have to like it's like it's like the Kurds right so it's like the Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq every other day there's a new group of them there's the PKK there's my brain escapes me there's other ones but it's like once

you create a new group we have to put that is that a terrorist group is that a non-profit is that what is that and so all these all these bureaucracy guys have to sit down in a meeting, they have to go, okay, is this a terrorist group or not? It's like, well, I think it is. And another guy goes, No, it's not a terrorist group. And then this, no, no, no, they are. And then they all argue. Meanwhile, they're still doing stuff. And it's like you said, Johnny Joe terrorist changes his affiliation every night. And so it's like, who has the targeting packet for this guy?

And it's like, oh, he's, he's no longer Taliban. He's Al Qaeda. Give that to the Al Qaeda working group. And then you give it to the Al Qaeda. Let's look back at the foundation. Al Zawahiri was Taliban. Or he was, he wanted to be the Mujahideen back in the 80s. Yeah.

But Osama said he was a bit too radical. So he was like, okay. Osama bin Laden calls you radical. Yeah, he said you're a bit too radical. So he was like, okay. And so he goes to prison in Jordan. Yeah, he said, you're a bit too much. He showed up with tattoos and whatnot. So he goes to prison in Jordan, gets really radicalized, goes to Iraq, starts his own little insurgent organization,

and then guess who comes back knocking on his door? He's like, hey man, my name's Osama Bin Laden, and we're fighting the US. Would you like to fight the Americans? So everyone talked about how we fought Al-Qaeda in Iraq, but it was really just ISIS, just under a different- Yeah, so Jesus, man, like, so, God, this is- It was like a lot of those guys that like,

they bled into Syria and they were like, this is Al-Narizah front. You're like, no, it's still Al-Qaeda. You're like, they just moved. Yeah. This is top tier, right? Because it's like, this is a top tier podcast because now we're talking about like, well, it's not, they're not Taliban. They're ISIS and Al-Qaeda. It's like, well, where did they start? Like, like it's, it's not training. Was it the Hindu Kush? I think it was. Like it's not training. Was it the Hindu Kush?

I think it was. So. It's like, they're not Taliban. They're just Boko Haram. God, you're such an idiot. It's like they're literally all the same thing. Like they all train in Pakistan. And then what, after a while ISIS just dropped the IS

and just became Islamic State because like the Philippines, Nigeria, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, all these different groups were like, oh, by the way, we're part of ISIS. And so at that point, you're like, in a business standpoint, you're like, yeah, you're for us. Yeah, cool. It's like, I'll just adopt the same flag. You're like, cool. Well, now ISIS is in Indonesia. Yeah. I mean, and what's funny is it's so simple to do that as a terrorist organization. But if you know anything about the intelligence community, anywhere you work,

the minute they change the flag and the name, it is like, oh man, now we gotta hire a whole new set of guys for this. And like, I mean, like, let's say this, let's say just like Matt said, the ISIS becomes IS, right? And so you've got a group of guys who are working on ISIS, and then you got a new group of guys who are working on the Islamic state,

and the ISIS guys aren't doing anything because there's no more ISIS stuff going on. They're now IS. And so you've got- They're looking at Iraq and Syria, but they're like, can you look into Sinai, please? Yeah.

Sinai, that's an entire new cell. Yeah, and so you've got like all these, this 20-story building of like nerds going through and like, what is happening right now? And it's just one guy in Iraq changing the, the terrorist website, like, no, we're no longer ISIS. We're now, what are we going to call ourselves this week? And just the headaches that come from it. And, you know, and then it's like branding, right? And so it's like, it's no longer ISIS, it's IS, it's the Islamic State. So anybody can join, you can be anywhere in the world. You can be in the Philippines. Be the- So if we're like looping this all into like one big picture from an intelligence standpoint, it's a pain in the ass. Yes.

Because it's, we know that Abu Bakr, al-Baghdadi has been ISIS for 10 years. He's dead now, but all of his affiliates, where we'll say like on some random whatever forum that says he's still alive, people are gonna build cell on him. And then it's a dead end. So it's kind of a pain in the ass. Yeah, it's it's so just to circle back all the way to the beginning right it's like well they're not Taliban fighters they're Chechens, and then it's like, okay, how many of those Chechens were in Afghanistan? How many of those Chechens were in Iraq and Syria or Kurdistan? How many of these Chechens were in Africa? I mean, even the Philippines has their own Muslim extremist group. Like, so does Africa. I mean,

we already discussed Africa, but it's like, yeah, they're not Taliban. They're Al-Qaeda. God. Taliban, they're Al Qaeda, God. Yeah, man, it's one of those ideas that have been floating around in my mind recently where I was like, I think there's a picture here, but there's no frame. So let me try to paint the frame. Let me try to put some plywood together and make this big canvas and put it on my wall and go.

No, I think this is it. I think this is what's going on. I'll bet you a hundred dollars that if let's say they capture a hundred Chechens, they'll find it'll be a hundred Chechens. It'll be 800 different terrorists under different names and it'll be like 1200 terrorist groups that they'll all be connected to. And it's like, we'll see. He wasn't just Taliban. He was also Poko Haram too. Like, come on, man. Like, yeah. But that is-

I've never seen any leaked reports from like the FSB or the Russians, but it's like, I know how we work and it's the same thing. Like you catch her. And so the biggest issue that I think a lot of the followers hit me up with were like, oh, where's the paperwork?

You can't say these guys are Taliban if there's no like passports or whatever. It's like, they don't need them. If they're being funneled in from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan and then from there to the caucus, like they don't need them. You'd never, I mean, okay, that's a good point, right? It's like, well, where's the paperwork? It's like, okay, you drive from Russia to Afghanistan and you tell me how many border checkpoints there are stamping your visa or your passport. I swear to God, there's none. Like it might be one dude in a guard shack who is completely blitzed on Vaca going like, all right, you're good.

Like, there's nothing there. So that's, yeah, that is, uh, yeah, that was one of the biggest questions I got. They were like, Oh, well, Taliban are there. Where's the paperwork? And I thought the Taliban have a paperwork. Initially, I thought when this war started, I think the Russians were a bit more intelligent than they actually are. But it's like, no, I think they actually would have thought this out. But there's all these reports of Americans getting captured in what Mariupol. They're like, there's an American CIA agent that was captured in Mariupol. They were like, no, every passport stamp with Department of State. Like, you didn't capture a State Department guy, you just captured an American who wanted to fight in Ukraine. Who joined Azov, yeah.

Yeah. Man, that's... It's a really dense topic and can honestly go for hours. You know what's cool about this? You could actually prove it if you have the time, You could actually prove it if you have the time, because the Ukrainians are uploading the faces of dead Russians to a database and then an AI is examining the face, linking it to a social network profile like Facebook or whatever,

and then basically saying, yeah, that's Steve. Here's his mom and dad. You can contact them. If you get some dead Chechens, you take those photos, you upload them to the Ukrainian website. Anybody has access to it, you can go to the Ukrainian website

and access the dead Russian database. If they kill enough Chechens, I swear, you're gonna start seeing dudes pop up on the terrorist watch list who are like, they were in Afghanistan, they were in Iraq. And what's funny is that in the American army, we collect biometrics on everything. So I promise you, once the Chechens lead Mariupol,

we're probably gonna start, the Chechens go to the front line or they get killed by artillery, or if we can get some of those big pictures of dead bodies, we are going to start seeing guys pop up on the terrorist watch list in Russia, in Ukraine, so we can prove it. But if it's not, then it's the British, then it's the French, and then it's the Italians,

then it's the Polish, where it's like they all have their own internal databases, where it's like if the Germans spent the entirety of Afghanistan in the northern part of the country where it's kind of like peaceful, they have profiles in somebody. Oh yeah. You might not have been radicalized 15 years ago, but today they're like, well, they caught him because he had an AK. So, yep. Oh yeah. Oh, dude. Now I'm, now this has me excited that we've kind of like deduced this on the podcast because it's like once the Chechens- It just makes sense. Yeah. Once the Chechens leave Mariupol, we start catching some dead Chechens.

Like, dude, can you imagine, like somebody in Ukraine needs to listen to this and hear this, because I mean, if you could prove, all you gotta do is kill some Chechens. But if you could prove that Russia is using terrorists in Ukraine, that's just more war crime. I mean, I can't even imagine it.

I mean, they're already in trouble now, but I mean, just imagine that. I mean, you're proving. We're talking about scare tactics. You're like, yeah, hey man, scare tactics. We're going to call on the Chechens. Chechens came in. Everybody said, like, buckle up for war crimes. Yeah. And it was like, yeah, you see these comms of Chechen vehicles running down the road or whatnot. And you're like, yeah, they're into BTR at school. It's all Soviet manufactured, but they're Chechens. It's like, can you imagine? Like they've already said the Syrians are there.

The Syrians are pretty ruthless against their own people. Yeah. Like it's, hey man, I've seen Aleppo. It's pretty bad. So it's like, oh, let's just grab some Afghani freedom fighters too. Let's dump them in there. So.

Like a crock pot of terrorism. Yeah. That was good, man. I think that's- We're sitting out here like an hour. Yeah. We're just shy of an hour. So I mean, you want to wrap it all up.

I think that's a lot for everybody to chew on. It was a pretty dense podcast, but- Somebody's going to come in and listen to this and be like, my God, these guys are crazy. I'm going to get a call from somebody. They're like, Hey, motherfucker. You don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, did you listen to it? Yeah. But, uh, Oh yeah. For everybody. The Facebook is up and. You know, tell your parents, tell your grandparents.

Uh, Traffic on Instagram has been a bit reduced recently. One, because I'm traveling a lot in two, because. I'm not a fan of the Facebook. I'm not a fan of the Facebook. I'm not a fan of the Facebook. I'm not a fan of the Facebook. I'm not a fan of the Facebook. I'm not a fan of the Facebook. you know, tell your parents, tell your grandparents. Traffic on Instagram has been a bit reduced recently. One, because I'm traveling a lot

and two, because a lot of pages are getting shut down. So I don't wanna, kind of wanna tiptoe through the tulips with this one. So I'll post like once a day, maybe once every other day, not seven times a day like before, but it's got to be more consistent. other day, not seven times a day like before, but it's going to be more consistent. Um, posting a lot more condensed reporting on Twitter, but it's more of just like a condensed version of the post on Instagram, on Twitter, and then a link back to the

Instagram. So give that a look and Cody, you have anything to post or plug? No, not yet. Um, once we kind of get some paperwork filled out, we'll set up the website and you guys can buy Sweet March, coffee cups and all the light coming soon to a Spotify podcasting here. Every single Walmart near you.

Yeah. CVS. CVS, no, I'm a Walgreens man. But all right, yep, that was fun. And I think we'll call it. Oh.