Knowledge Fight - #687: May 24, 2022

Episode Date: May 30, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on an "Emergency Report" that Alex put out on the evening of May 24, hours after the shooting in Uvalde.  Spoiler alert: it's not great coverage. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex. I'm Mr. Tim Collin. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed. We are Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today Jordan. Some may call this trivial. Some may call this

unimportant but that's what the bright spots are often about. Indeed. I was a grocery shopping and I noticed something that I didn't really realize existed but I kind of probably did at the back of my mind. Leprechauns. Yes. I got a leprechaun. Okay. I bought Lucky Charms. No. Sauce cups. Sauce cups. Disposable sauce cups. No. I understand. Yeah. In the like paper plate section. I didn't realize they would just sell like a big pack of sauce cups. No. You assume you can only get those from a restaurant. Right. They're the only ones who have access to sauce cups. I figured there'd be an embargo on just civilians buying sauce cups. Why would I go to a restaurant if I could buy my own sauce cups? I love it. I love to dip. Dipping is a hobby of

mine. Many people love dipping. And so this was really exciting and I've enjoyed it. It's made me think like, okay, I got this bag of them and that's great but this is eventually going to get very wasteful. I may need to see if I could find reusable of the exact same size. Like why not? That's got to exist somewhere. That's a good point. That might be my next bright spot. I mean, I think it's called Tupperware. No. Well, Tupperware does come in a lot of sizes. I guess probably there are some that are. I bet they've got sauce cup Tupperwares. Oh no. I'll have to get you in contact with my Tupperware party friend. Your mom. So yeah, what's your bright spot? My bright spot, Dan, is I had a great Friday. I had a great Friday. First thing first, I finished my hand

tattoo. I noticed it looked a little bit darker. Yeah. It's great. Got a nice little contrast in there. Added some shadows there. And then later on, I finally got to speak in not person, but in audio with Molly at Socialist Dog Mom. We watched the magicians together and it went great. And what? And the stream exploded because the power in my entire block shut off right after a suspicious explosion. He sound aha. So it's a transformer probably blew up. It might not be as suspicious as you're making it out to be. No one was sabotaging your stream. No, no, no. Transformer kind of made a big noise and then everything crashed. But yeah, until then without a hitch. Yeah, you were texting me about your power being out. I was enjoying trying to be a detective. Yeah, like looking into it

and seeing if like, oh, can we find an update? I thought for sure that there would be something that was a really large sounding explosion. It was it was weird to me how long it took for anything to show up on ComEd's outage map. Yeah. But yeah, eventually it did. And then how long did it last? When did your power come back on? Probably about four hours. Do you pick back up on the stream? We tried to, but Molly had gone to sleep at the point. Yeah. Unfortunately. Well, I'm glad that it went well when it while it did. Well, while it was, it was. And probably next time there won't be a transformer explosion. I hope not. Unless it is suspicious. Unless that's the case. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be every time. There's the stream saboteur out there. You never

know when he's going to serial stream saboteur you. Yep. Triple S serial stream saboteur. Yep. Yep. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Indeed. Last week we decided that it was not in anyone's best interest for us to cover Alex's response to the Uvaldi shooting. Right. But the time has come and today we are going to be getting into that. So here's, here's the sort of syllabus of things. Today is almost a bottle episode. Yeah. You could say in as much as we're just going to be talking about Alex's emergency report from that night from May 24th, 2022 hours after the shooting. Oh my God. Yes. And so we're going to be covering that. And then on Wednesday, we'll get into more of the like continuing coverage. Yeah. Okay. But just because this was such a immediate

document of Alex's response and some other stuff, it felt like it had a standalone quality. We can see what's going on. And then as we cover more of the time afterwards, you can see how things maybe develop. Yeah. And one of the reasons that I'm giving this caveat is because as we are recording in the present day, we are aware of a number of things that it's unfair to judge Alex by on this day. Naturally. Like in terms of the police response and a lot of that conversation, that is awareness that we have that we shouldn't transpose onto what we're covering today. Correct. And it's difficult to sort of segment that off. Sure. But that's more of a discussion for Wednesday as opposed to, although I do think it's important and obviously I'm not

trying to like avoid it or anything. It's just a lot of that information was not known. And you can really only judge somebody by the information that's known and what they do with it when they do what they do. This bears close reading within the context that it is given as opposed to bringing whatever it is we decide to bring to. And maybe this is being a little bit too precise with things. But I think in the context of this coverage of an event that is this this monumental and traumatic, I think it bears that. Yes. So we'll get to this episode. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Madicus Finch. Thank you so much. You're in our policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you very

much. Thank you. Next, Andy from Canada. I love you. Thank you so much. You're in our policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you very much. Next, Amplexus. Satan's middle management HR assistant. Thank you so much. You're now a policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Ben from the year of our Lord 2020 Rob do. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, look, Cooper. I made it on the show. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix. So first, even better, better muscly urnate. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Desmon and Doddy Clay, a Creed

and Nickelback fusion cover band. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little break. You know, a little break for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew

and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. A million times he is not. He's not a better tomorrow. No, no, no, no. Nope. Absolutely not. Now this was recorded at seven in the evening, a central time in Austin. And I just give a little bit of a caveat warning. Maybe I think Alex is a little drunk. Yeah, I don't know if he's drunk, but his he is not. He's not communicating the normal way that he does. And he, you know, I want to give a little bit of a possible explanation and that like maybe he's just really tired. I don't know. But there are there are mannerisms that are like this guy seems a little bit off. Whatever we're dealing with, it is an altered state. Whatever the case for it may be.

It feels that way. Gotcha. And I think that that's part of the reason that he has Owen Troyer co-hosting with him. Oh, okay. Because I don't think Alex could have handled doing this on his own. No. So they went back into the studio to record this. Gotcha. And I have a strong feeling that Alex, for whatever reason, there was a there was a lack of energy that was that was there. And so, of course, you need an Owen. Owen handles a lot of this. He's he's doing a fair amount of heavy lifting. That's bad. So we start off here at the beginning and Alex. I mean, I feel like this is a little bit weird. He seems a little bit hyped almost for the idea that this special report is happening. Of course, ladies and gentlemen, we are live on Tuesday night, May 24th, 18 dead in

South Texas. Live coverage. Ted Nugent, Owen Troyer, myself, Alex Jones coming up. Infowars, the most banned network in the world. So there there is like a hey, this is coming up. You know, there's a there's the it feels unnecessary and it struck me as a little bit like, yeah, I don't necessarily appreciate a showmanship as a way to get people to draw into your broadcast. Teaser sting of like, we got Ted Nugent coming up. It is. It is especially a voice that says, get excited for what I have to say about this thing. We've got a great show for you about 100 percent. Yep. And it's yeah. The tone is off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If Jimmy Carson was announcing like, we've got Ted Nugent coming on after this year, you're not far off. Yeah.

Yeah. I felt I felt like we were maybe not where I hoped this would be. Yeah. Not a good start. So there's a bit of a special report video package thing that plays after Alex does this promotional right sting. And here's where we start the report proper. It's 708 Central Standard Time. I'm your host Alex Jones. I'll enjoy your host the War Room riding shotgun. Ted Nugent, NRA board member joining us coming up in the next hour. You don't like doing emergency broadcasts like this. Texas has had a mass shooting in elementary school in Uvalde outside of San Antonio. And they are now reporting 18 dead students, three adults killed in Uvalde school shooting. I've talked to a lot of law enforcement sources too early to say anything, but it's very bizarre

that this reported individual who appears to be a transgender like the person that attacked Dave Chappelle last month had killed his grandmother reportedly and the board patrol was after him and then he ran to the school, crashed his vehicle, got in, killed all these people, and then they were saying he was captured. But now they're reporting he is dead. If Alex doesn't like doing these special reports, I have some really good news for him. He absolutely doesn't have to. The only reason that he's doing this is to strike while the iron's hot. It's the exact same impetus that drove his actions immediately after the Buffalo shooting. He was going to take the day off and have a guest toast, but he couldn't resist the attention of how

large the audience was in the wake of the shooting. He literally said that on his own show on air. Now Royce White is a former NBA player in a martial arts fighter as well, mixed martial arts, and he is really been kicking ass running against Ilhan Omar. He is about to take over here, ladies and gentlemen. And he's got a special guest, David Penn, political activist, international businessman. He was set to host today, but things were so hot, it's a giant audience. I just thought I had to come in and give you my baseline on what's going on. And then I'll be back in the second segment, hour two, to play the excerpts where I predicted all this very, very specifically. Alex knows full well by this point, the tragedies are opportunities for him,

and he exploits them to the fullest. That's what's driving this emergency coverage, not a journalistic obligation to cover the story in a way that serves the audience and helps inform people. And one of the big tells about this is that he says that the shooter in this case was supposedly trans, just like the person who attacked Dave Chappelle recently. Both of these pieces of information are not true, but Alex knows the transphobia is very popular in his audience and the larger right-wing community right now, so he can contextualize this shooting that way, and he'll be able to fold it into his other narratives very easily. The person who attacked Dave Chappelle is named Isaiah Lee, and he is a cis man who has given

varying explanations for his actions. It might be because he identifies as bisexual or that he was unhoused and Chappelle was making jokes about these things, or he also told NBC News that, quote, another comedian in the show made a joke about pedophilia and that having been molested is triggered. This situation is a bit difficult to parse out specifically, and after the incident, the person he lived with in a transitional housing apartment accused Lee of stabbing him during a fight back in December, and he's now being charged with attempted murder in that case. There's a lot going on there, but one thing is clear, and that is that Lee is not trans. That's just a narrative that was concocted by the right-wing media to demonize trans people.

And it was very easy for them to do that too, because Chappelle himself kind of helped. After he was attacked, Chappelle joked that the person who did it was a trans man, playing on the very well-understood reality that a bunch of his recent work has hurt a lot of people in the trans community, and playing on that idea that they would attack in retaliation, or something, and that facilitated the ease of that narrative sticking, and you can see it being parroted by Alex, though not true. You got it. The shooting in Uvalde started at approximately 11.30 a.m., and only a few hours later, people on 4chan began circulating images of a trans woman that they were claiming was the shooter, in an intentional effort to perpetuate an anti-trans hoax. People on 4chan do this thing,

kind of thing, all the time, and Alex falls for it a lot, as was discussed in the Kit Daniels deposition about how he was fooled by a 4chan hoax, which led him to misidentifying Marcel Fontaine as the Parkland shooter. Alex is doing the exact same thing here, fully illustrating that he's learned exactly zero lessons from the lawsuits he's been facing. Alex has time-stamped this very conveniently for us, and he says that it's 7.08 central time, and from there we can see what information was widely available for him to operate off of. There were multiple trans women who were targeted by these smear campaigns. The first of them goes by Sabrina, and at 6.16 p.m., she had posted on Twitter that she was not the shooter, even going so far as to post new pictures

in the same location as the photo being used by trolls to accuse her at 7.04 p.m. It makes sense that Alex wouldn't have time to see these new pics that Sabrina posted, but there's no reason for him not to be aware that this was a hoax by the time that he got on air. There was a second trans woman named Sam, who was targeted by these hoaxes, and one of the most likely ways that Alex would have possibly found out about this was at some time prior to 6.39 p.m., Andrew Torba, the head of GAB, reposted an accusation that Sam was the shooter. This post had been made by an account called The Nose, which is apparently a verified account on GAB. I took a little stroll through that account, and here's the first pinned post they have. Quote,

a homogenous society is similar to a healthy functioning immune system able to detect threats. I'm a giant anti-semite racist. Yep. Pretty easy to see what's going on there. Yeah. Also, their bio starts, quote, noticing noses. So it's really cool that the head of GAB is not only following this guy, but also amplifying their posts where they baselessly accuse someone of killing elementary school students in order to foment hate towards trans people. Yeah, I don't think he was talking about specifically Roman patricians. No, no. By 6.30 p.m., people on Twitter were pushing back against this, an amplifying post Sam had made that showed that she was not the shooter and in fact was still alive. The bottom line is that

there is no acceptable reason for Alex to be on air reporting the story this way. This is one of the first details he's providing about the story, so it seems like it's something very important and he's done literally nothing to check in on it. At best, he saw something on 4chan and decided to run with it, despite him being sued for doing exactly that about another shooting and his corporate representative testifying under oath that 4chan is not a source he would use. At worst, he's reporting this based on Andrew Torba's reposting of a clear anti-semite transphobe and white nationalist account on GAB who's just repeating random shit that they saw on 4chan or Reddit. Again, there's no clear evidence that Alex has not learned any lessons

from his lawsuits and that his hatred of trans folks far supersedes his obligation to report accurate information. Yeah, and you can see that just from the jump here. It's it's bad. Yeah, and it's it's like I understand it's worse than if he was targeting individuals. Like the the idea that you can't I mean, I get it. You can't sue him because he's saying that it's it's just a trans person. But ultimately, that's more destructive. That's looking at everybody who's trans and saying that they're a fucking murderer coming from Alex's mouth. Well, I think he's not saying that specifically at this point in time, but from his mouth, that's what it means. All right, I think there's a couple things to disentangle. And one is I kind of I kind of agree with you

because there is a broad target that's being put on trans people by this kind of coverage and the sort of pseudo vagueness of it. But secondarily, Alex does use some very clear distinguishing comments that make it clear that he is talking specifically about Sam. Oh, OK, well, then that is the person that's the person who whose pictures he's talking about. Yeah. So it's it's it's the the issue is that you have both going on. Sure. And I yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know why he would do something like this. Well, I mean, I do. But yeah, I can't imagine being so committed to being bad at your job that you do this. I mean, I just don't, you know, like I know I know that the judge is going to see that

very information as soon as possible. I probably already has. But I mean, if you see that now in the middle of what he's doing now, don't you just say fuck off the end? I mean, it does seem to illustrate like malice. And it seems to illustrate continuing refusal to understand why the things he did initially were wrong. Absolutely. But yeah, I don't I don't know what kind of impact that has on on legal cases. I guess that will remain to be seen. But yeah, if I were him, I just probably wouldn't do that stuff. You would think. But that just I but if he didn't, then his audience would revolt on him. He has to. He cannot not give a statement about this. Oh, but he doesn't need to do this. No, he doesn't. No, he does not. I think it's a

testament to how much he how how highly he values his knee jerk hatreds and being able to express them. That that is something that has a far a far higher value to him than being responsible. Yeah, I mean, it's hard. It's hard to forget, you know, it's hard to keep center in your mind at all times. But the end goal for all of these people is a society where they can just say, Oh, it's a trans person. It's trans people's fault whenever they fucking want. That's what they want. Well, you know, it's not a fucking I think a lot of a lot of cases. Yeah, that's true. I think when you're looking specifically at Alex's coverage, I think it's easier to say like, that is exactly what he would want to do, at least maybe for other reasons, but at least

because that's a convenient way for him to not talk about sure. Absolutely. And I think that that's the phenomenon that you're going to see even beyond the transphobia. It's going to be grasping at straws trying to find any way to make this about something else. And that's what he does immediately after this, just trying to find other rationalizations. Here's the takeaway here. No one is lessening the deaths of these children. And it's terrible. And I have four children one up and five years old. It tears up my guts and makes me pissed off. We have 40 plus million people that died in the last two years under globalist lockdowns from starvation. We have the New World Order launching massive wars. We have all of the depopulation agenda going on. And I predicted,

in fact, queue it up from last week will play come about 30 minutes. Alex Jones predicted mass shooting at Black grocery store. And I said going into the midterms, now with 168 days out, all the pre programming is the terror attacks, the mass shootings are going to happen. They weren't happening. It's so transparent how Alex only brings up these talking points about statistics about food insecurity in the developing world whenever he needs to use them to minimize an atrocity that intersects with something he cares about. If he needs to complain about people wearing masks, then he brings up the issue of people starving and presents it as something that's been solely caused by COVID prevention measures. If he needs to minimize the murder of 19 children

in elementary school and two teachers, he brings up the number of starving people to make that number of children look small. He's a spineless coward. And I would take this a little more seriously if he seemed to care about those issues relating to food access in the developing world when it wasn't just something he was using as a shield to not address the issue that he's supposed to be covering. Also, I'm thrilled to see that Alex is taking credit for calling this one, even though he made a huge deal out of how the Buffalo shooting was what he predicted because he said black grocery store. I guess if you get to claim that you're some kind of a genius for predicting that a school shooting would happen eventually, then everyone in the world is a genius because we

all knew it was coming. There were dips in the number of school shootings and mass shootings in general for a while because of COVID lockdowns. There were less mass gatherings of people and schools were closed in many places. That said, there have still been plenty of school shootings since 2020. The list on Wikipedia includes 72 shootings at school since the beginning of 2020. Alex's premise is that they've been hyping up this idea of school shootings in order to get someone to do one because it's a copycat crime kind of thing that the globalists are trying to incite. But that premise is stupid because there have been all these school shootings that have happened that weren't hyped up and Alex has no idea that even happened. A bunch of them happened

in Texas, his home state as well, and he still doesn't know. For instance, does Alex remember that on October 6th, 2021, a man opened fire at Timberview High School in Arlington, Texas, injuring four people? I've never heard him bring that up. Does Alex remember that less than a week before that a 25 year old dude broke into Yes Prep Southwest School in Houston and shot the principal? He doesn't remember these things because he never heard about them and he didn't cover them. The point is that if the media truly were hyping up school shootings in the way Alex is pretending, there would have been wall-to-wall coverage of the tons of school shootings that have happened that Alex and most people in the country never heard happened because this stuff has just kind

of become a twisted reality of our modern lives. As was true in the case of Sandy Hook, the horrific nature of what happened in Uvaldi is a severe threat to Alex's political ideology and you can see that manifested in how he's responding to this with a scattershot strategy. There are already a ton of excuses he's trying to he's trying them out to see what's going to fly. He's asserted that the shooter is trans so if that works out for him he can make this about his transphobic narratives instead of about guns. He's blamed the media for supposedly hyping up shootings so he can claim that this was a case of globalist mind control as opposed to being about guns and if all else fails he's minimized the death toll compared to the number of people going

without food in the developing world so if he has to he can retreat to that talking point in an attempt to pretend that he has the moral high ground. Oh you're upset about 19 dead kids? What about all the people in the developing world without food? Not so righteous now are you? It's really transparent how much of a threat this is to Alex and he's behaving accordingly. He knows damn well that this is the sort of event that has precipitated tighter gun regulation in other countries in the past so he has to do a full court press immediately to try and create new narratives about the shooting while this cement is still wet and you see it. Yep. This is graphic imagery but I really do think that it's a one-to-one comparison and it's a good

thought to have in your mind whenever he says shit like this because it is fucked up but whenever he's like listen I predicted this I'm so smart for predicting all of this shit he is masturbating with a dead child's hand that is what's fucking happening. It's a little graphic. It's graphic and you know what that's what it fucking is and he gets to just say it because it's just fucking words you know. You don't see anything. It is words to him. It's words and self-aggrandizement. Absolutely. It's kind of a more macabre and disgusting version of the sort of classic I told you so kind of thing and it's bull. Bull bull bull. No and it's not just I told you so I would love for it to just be and I told you so. It is a look at how great I am. Right. Yeah and we did

this with the Buffalo shooting I mean we demonstrated how he didn't really predict this that at all but he did say black grocery store in a prediction about shootings that were going to happen a year ago when the audit of the 2020 election was going to drop. And he doesn't even have that to rely on. No but he had he had that the optics of that that he was working with and now he's trying to apply it to this even though the circumstances are totally different. It's all just shit. It's just fucked up. Yeah. He's just fucked up. He's not a good dude. Nope. So Alex has another theory about what might have caused this and this is just awful. There are a lot of mentally ill people and they see mass shootings being hyped up being pushed and Sandy Hook Sandy Hook Sandy Hook

using my name by the way attaching itself to me in the news every day and a lot of these psychopaths think well that's something I could do too early to tell there's a lot of blurred stuff going on as this develops. That's a disgusting and almost inhuman level of narcissism that Alex is displaying. He's actually claiming the coverage of the lawsuit against him over his claims about Sandy Hook may have been part of the reason this shooting happened. So if I understand correctly people shouldn't have sued Alex because that'll end up causing coverage of the reason he's being sued and then mentally ill people will hear this about this mass shooting and think I should do that. Is that the argument that he's making? Yep. That's ridiculous. I believe his argument is stop

hitting yourself stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself. Well really this mass shooting happened because you're persecuting me. Yeah man. What I am going to abuse you as much as humanly possible and then blame you for the outcome. I really just don't understand how you can see things and insist there about you in such a disgusting fashion. It's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Not in a good way. No it amazes. No it really you know it is something that when we talk to John Ronson you know he brought up that idea of like what are we judging Alex based upon you know like we're judging him based upon human society and he doesn't belong there you know period. So so he just lives by a completely set a different set of existence. Yeah. I still go

back to that moment when we were talking to him when he asked if Alex repeats himself and I said yes and he's Ronson seemed disappointed to hear that and I felt I think about that a bit because like you know John Ronson somebody who knows Alex of course you know presumably has some familiarity with him and even for him it was kind of a deflating idea that Alex doesn't just nope you know it's not off the dome it's not brand new every time it's just the same bullshit over and over and over again. Yeah it's like seeing a rift comedian multiple times right realize oh they do the same yeah yeah yeah kind of thing every yeah then and you know anyway Alex has another theory about why these the shootings happen. Sure. Sure. One two not enough.

No we gotta have like a whole bunch 40 50. We've got the world government UN treaty taking place we've got the borders collapsing thousands dying every few months down there no news coverage to speak of and now we have this all I know is we're in the season of the midterms and right on time the psychopaths strike what do you think's going on on shroyer. So there's a lot going through my head right now and let's let's bring up the midterms that are coming up which you just mentioned I have no doubt that this is going to be used to promote Bito O'Rourke here running for governor against Abbott I have no doubt Bito O'Rourke is pretty much running a losing campaign right now he can barely fill a high school auditorium really not

even auditorium like a classroom he can't even fill a high school classroom and so they need something to promote Bito in Texas. Yeah so this is about the midterm somehow I feel like it's it's still pretty early in this emergency special report and we're speculating that this has some connection to midterm elections I I mean wow this is what I'm kind of talking about when we like our last episode the project Camelot 1 we're talking about the the the merging of conspiracy and politics yep like it's just what the fuck are you doing yeah what the fuck are you honestly doing yeah like deep down what the fuck are you doing yeah so Alex has been building up kind of this idea that there weren't these shootings there weren't shootings happening

and now the midterm's happening and uh all of a sudden sure sure here are shootings so he's saying that we didn't live in America for the past two years well he's pretending yeah and then Owen kind of deflates that there's so many different angles Alex would I look at this okay so we've had over 200 mass shootings in this country in the year 2022 alone 200 mass shootings but only two of them have made the media the national press and that's the one in Buffalo most recently and then of course this one today in Texas that's right when it's Asian on Asian or black on Asian no coverage so here Owen accidentally deflates Alex's entire narrative about hyping up mass shootings if there have been over 200 of them and there's only been major media coverage of two that tends to make the

argument that the media is actually downplaying mass shootings Alex kind of realizes that that's the point that you would draw from this conversation so he throws out a distraction point about how he feels that shootings done by non-white people don't get coverage yep again this is literally the fraudulent talking point that Dillon Roof cited as being his radicalization point towards carrying out the Charleston shooting so Alex should probably stop repeating it all the time. Owen's lying uh or has no idea what he's talking about here there has been media coverage of other shootings this year. Owen is also playing games here because he knows exactly why there's been more media attention as it relates to the Buffalo and Uvaldi shootings. Firstly of all the mass

shootings that have occurred this year these are the two with the highest death tolls by a considerable amount. Second they are the shootings that have particularly horrific characteristics that make them more painful to the general population. In the instance of Buffalo there was a shooter who was a white nationalist who set out to carry this shooting out specifically to kill black people. In the case of Uvaldi though there weren't many details available when Owen's on air he was a fucking elementary school and they knew that at least 18 children had been murdered. Owen knows these dynamics perfectly well but he's pretending not to in order to make it suspicious that these two shootings have gotten more attention and imply that it has something to do with the

midterms. This is unacceptable behavior and Owen should be deeply ashamed of himself for this kind of coverage. The reason they act like this is because this story and stories like this threaten their basic far-right ideology in almost every level so they have to attack that reality when these stories exist at all costs and that's why they're sort of warping reality around the way they are. It's shit. Yeah I mean you know it is it is also one of those things where it doesn't matter what happens that is going to stay the same. I kind of don't even understand why they bother with finding alternate explanations as opposed to just saying you know what yeah it's guns is fault but we love guns so much that we're going to let your kids die whenever they had

whenever they die. Yeah I wonder I wonder if that would play. Well I mean I don't know why not everybody knows it. I think that maybe you don't have I don't know if you have a great handle on maybe the psychology of some of the some of the people who are more drawn towards Alex's world. Yeah I mean well obviously denial is a state of existence that you have to enjoy if you don't live in reality with the rest of us. I think even if you do live in reality a certain amount of denial is necessary to make it through. Well yeah I think that what you're saying is a blunt thing that I don't know if I could argue that it would dramatically change things sure but I don't think that that's a mentality that even a lot of these supporters of Alex a show would sign on to.

Yeah yeah maybe not maybe not. I think they'd have to get to it gradually. Well you know I think it's just something that we don't want to find out yet you know I think they would rather not find out if that's going to fly just yet. Maybe you're deep into hypothetical. I am deep into hypothetical. We're in speculation territory for me real hard so. But I mean while we're in speculation territory Owen really thinks that this is the midterm issue. Jesus. Which is see this is where it's kind of like all right. This is a non cancerous point that you're making. Right. The timing is weird. Right. I don't know if you need to be making this point tonight. Right. But like it for Owen to be like all right this shooting happened politically. This is going to be

something that the Democratic candidates can use. I think that's a descriptive kind of reality. Yeah. I don't think that necessarily that's like I don't I don't think it has a lot of meaning. I don't think that night is the time necessarily where it has the most value to discuss but it's not the same as a lot of the other conspiracy theorizing. Right. That's going on. And so that's kind of where Owen's heads at. And I feel that really it goes beyond the racial lines with this. I think that they're really drumming up the mass shootings as a new story here before the midterms because the Democrats have nothing Alex. I mean we have to remember it's a midterm election year. Democrats politicize everything to try to get people to vote. So I mean look at all the things

they've tried. They've tried racism. They've tried the abortion issue. They've tried Ukraine. It's all failed. It's all flopped. So now they're going to try the gun thing. I think that this is their next big push to let's find an issue that we can use people to go out and vote on and I think that now it's going to be the gun issue or at least they're going to try it. What about the leading cause of death amongst middle aged men being fentanyl which is all thanks to the open border. So 25 U.S. veterans committing suicide a day almost zero coverage. So we're totally sad for what happened. It's a terrible thing but they know statistically they high put mass shootings and high put mass shootings in elementary schools other areas. Crazy people are going to go do it.

So you can kind of see the difference in the just sort of base perspective that they're giving. Yeah. Owen is talking about the coverage that will happen after the fact. Alex is saying that coverage of things caused it. Yeah. And there is a there is a difference. I don't know how meaningful it is but whatever. And you can see though that I think almost maybe more importantly these guys can't address this new story without creating a completely separate issue to use as a prop. 100 percent. Owen can't talk about the shooting. He has to cover the story by speculating that the Democrats are going to use guns as a campaign issue in the midterms. This isn't an emergency report about the shooting. It's an emergency report attempting to get out in front of whatever

coverage other outlets end up doing about the shooting. It's damage control more than anything. And that's something you see again from Alex where he and Owen are coming up with other things that have higher death tolls than this shooting in an attempt to minimize the horror of what had happened hours earlier. I weirdly don't hear them bring up COVID death tolls here but I guess that's just not the brand. Also there's plenty of media coverage of suicides among enlisted persons and fentanyl deaths. Maybe there could be more investigation of the first one but it's not something that people are just ignoring. If you really want to do this shit I can show you how pathetic this game is really easily. If your interest is just in minimizing the number of

deaths occurred you could say that there were 21 people killed here and yes that's really sad but between 2010 and 2020 an average of 39 people die each year in the United States while skiing and you never hear the media talk about that. Sure it's a fact but it's also not relevant to the matter at hand and it's something you'd only bring up if you were actively trying to get your audience to be less horrified by the horrific shooting that had just happened. That's the game they're playing. Yeah it's like it's you know you would only bring up in a conversation about the holocaust how many people Stalin killed if you really wanted to let people know you were on Hitler's team. Yep yep. So Alex is clearly very interested in the pictures the hoax pictures of

the shooter. Of course. He will end up bringing this up constantly. And in coming up in a few minutes I'll start putting him on screen the reported shooter who's now been killed, the first they said he'd been captured. I know driving in I think you guys some of the images of him in dresses and and all the rest of this stuff but you're not going to see any of that in the corporate media. Yeah and I'm sure we'll find out more about this individual and obviously the individual is extremely deranged just how deranged we'll have to find out. I think that Alex thinks that he's playing it safe by saying the reported shooter. Yeah and I don't think that I don't think that helps here. No you reported him as the shooter not the reported shooter. Right.

You are reporting that he is the shooter. Right and you found these pictures prior to coming in you sent them to your staff. Yeah we know what's going on here. So Owen actually I think probably has some instincts to not dwell on the pictures that much. Maybe he's aware of the Kid Daniels lawsuit. Could be. Maybe. Could be. He wants to talk mostly about psych meds but Alex is on the other side of this. We'll never know the truth about all the pharmaceutical pills that this individual was on because the mainstream media is funded by big pharma so you're not allowed to talk about that. And let's continue to go through those photos let's enlarge those let's let's put those on screen please. But you know Alex here here's before they take it down. Let's talk about

knee jerk reaction here. So interesting that Owen is complaining there about the media making knee jerk reactions because in that 18 second clip there were quite a few knee jerk reactions being made by Alex and Owen. The first is that Owen is asserting that we'll never know what drugs the shooter was on because the media is funded by big pharma so they don't talk about it. In order to make this claim Owen has to make the knee jerk assumption that the shooter in fact was on pharmaceutical drugs something that he has no evidence of and has decided must be true because that's his narrative about shootings. He also asserted that the media covers that stuff up because of their funding sources so even if it never comes out that the shooter was on drugs Owen can still

cling to that knee jerk reaction because the lack of evidence coming out really only confirms the power of the cover up. Alex is making a further knee jerk reaction where he's decided that this trans woman who's the victim of a 4chan hoax is the shooter because he's desperate to take advantage of every opportunity to demonize trans people. He says quote let's continue to go through those photos let's enlarge those let's put those on screen please before they take it down. Alex is making a knee jerk assumption that these photos depict the correct suspect and that there will be a cover up of these photos because the media doesn't want people to know that the suspect was trans. These ideas that Alex and Owen are disseminating aren't just inaccurate what they're

doing is creating a completely false reality for the audience to understand the shooting within. It's really fucked up to see how so much of the behavior they're engaging in mirrors past coverage they've done that's gotten them sued and I suspect the reason for that is because they never needed to learn a lesson from those lawsuits they always knew what they were doing was wrong. Nope. That's the that's the premise that I'm starting to kind of feel yeah is that like questioning whether a lesson has been learned is almost pointless irrelevant yeah because they never needed to learn they know yeah this is bad it's evil yes yes they're bad people who know they're bad but they get a lot of money for it so they are fine with it. I want to start doing one thing

and I want to push back on you saying evil only because I want to try and sort of wash that from our remove the good evil morality continuum as a thought process. I think some morality certainly can come into it but I don't know I feel like I want to I want to banish that from our thinking even though some things could be descriptively thought of as evil sure Alex has all this demon shit and I just want to right I want to make sure sick to science not science no no ethereal ideas about about angels and okay let me throw it out at you this way his behaviors as well as theirs are unilaterally destructive and hurtful sure now you're getting close to Stefan Malin there we go universally preferable behaviors okay all right uh oh they just really like to hurt people

it seems like it's profitable for them and they don't care yep so Owen has a has a suggestion of theory nobody wants this I don't want kids to go to school with armed guards outside believe me I don't want that but I'll tell you this I'd rather have schools with armed guards outside than a situation like we had in U of all the Texas well that's really it and and and you just like Adam Lanza and and Sandy Hook it's another in cell I mean put those up from his twitter before they take him down when there's the dude to skirt there's the dude who he is and this this is reportedly what's going on so so again and again we have to range yeah make that full screen please we have deranged crazy people so that skirt identification is kind of important because of the main pictures

that were going around the what there's only one person whose pictures were involving a skirt or dress okay and so you can tell what he's talking about pretty clearly all right there is an instagram picture of the actual shooter yeah and that is not someone in a dress right there was this Sabrina was the other trans person who was misidentified in the in the larger sort of hoax plot yeah and they weren't shown like there was just a face yeah in a bottle holding up and so like this is very clearly talking about this Sam person right well Sam has uh there are two lawyers Sam needs to get in contact with I it's yeah I don't I don't know if it's actionable but it's definitely the intent of what Alex is doing I was pointing to this hoax yep so uh Alex is a little bit of a baby

philosophy lesson he wants to give uh and this is just stupid we have deranged crazy people and that's the reason we have guns I mean no one right here is a dagger military dagger and I'm obviously really love you and your great god I'm not going to attack you with it but if I got up right now and hypothetically with this dagger that is in my hand and I stabbed you with this dagger it is not the daggers fault that this took place it is my fault whether I used a car to run people over or whether I used a baseball bat or gasoline to burn a building down it is not the fault of the dagger that could be in the hands of a good or bad person it is the fault of the psychopaths and the psychopaths are being bred by this system

and they're just pouring out like a cancer well and that that's what it is it's the godless society it's the lack of morals in society it's the the chemicals and the drugs forcing kids into depression it's the hopelessness of the new world order it's true enough that it's not the knife's fault that Owen got stabbed in that hypothetical but this is logic for babies no one's blaming the gun in the sense that the gun itself has any moral consideration in the situation the argument is that with easy access to very powerful guns the people who are inclined to hurt other people can do so much easier alex is basically highlighting that by using the knife example here generally speaking someone with a knife is not going to be able to pull off a mass casualty event because people are

more likely to be able to and be successful in intervening further people are less likely to kill random people with a knife because it requires proximity to the person whereas shooting someone allows the killer to have a feeling of distance like imagine a knife gun we would probably not that would be just as big of a problem as a gun yep this is an idea that alex has expressed enough that the audience just kind of nods and accepts it but it's kind of dumb and it's dumb intentionally this is deflection not a meaningful argument yeah i mean if you want if he wants to make it a meaningful argument if they want to make it a meaningful argument then what they're really trying to grapple with is that a male dominated society produces a shit ton of violence

against women and that the overwhelming number of these shooters is driven almost ultimately bottomly and like deeply by misogyny well that is a piece of information that probably isn't known about this shooter sure at the time that they're on air but it's something that's known about all shooters trend yeah yeah let's say and yeah i think that that is also uh secondarily along with guns yeah another issue the the idea of domestically violent men yeah i mean if you wanted to tell me that we don't we don't get gun control except men don't get to have guns that probably would be better than gun control i think you're gonna run into some trouble there but well i definitely think there's something to be said for more uh oversight of people who

have had accusations about domestic violence absolutely like that and limiting access to weapons to that there's a lot that could be done in terms of harm reduction from that front oh yeah but um look the dams they want your guns i can't believe that the democrats are at all involved with anything that's going on we've all given up on all of them it's who gives a fuck well you still need a bad guy uh if you're alex and oh and sure i guess that's the other political party so it's the best man ghost to point to Jesus but anyway the democrats want your guns our politicians but but let's call it what it is it's the democrats it's the democrats they're calling to take your guns surely you're going to be hearing it for the next 48 hours

or all week long they're going to call to take your firearms but oh the democrats when they feel threatened what do they get they get arm security nancy post he calls for automatic gun turrets machine gun turrets outside of the capital because she feels threatened but oh at the schools oh at your house oh at your church oh at your business they don't want you to have a gun you don't get the protection but they get the state funded taxpayer funded protection of firearms that they want to take away from us alex this is the same fucking tune these dudes play every time there's a shooting the dams are at to get your guns just you wait tomorrow there's going to be confiscations every single time and then nothing happens yep they build up entire world views on

the insistence and fear that a gun grab is coming right around the corner and because it never happens they reap the rewards of their extremism pretending that it's in defense of liberty but in fact it's just a vice yep that story about Nancy Pelosi probably isn't true it was based on a comment made by ken kuchinelli who is a guy who trump appointed to government positions illegally twice he's an astounding piece of shit who while attorney general of virginia was a proponent of sodomy laws mostly motivated by a belief that homosexuality is against nature sure he was also the subject of a scandal at the end of his time serving as a deputy in trump's department of homeland security brian murphy who is the head of the dhs's intelligence branch came out as a whistleblower

saying that senior officials had instructed him to alter intelligence assessments from the new york times quote the department's second highest ranking official kenneth t kuchinelli ordered mr murphy to modify intelligence assessments to make the threat of white supremacy appear less severe and include information on violent left wing groups and antifa if you read the report mr murphy filed it's really outrageous here's another thing that kuchinelli was said to have done quote in december 2019 mr murphy attended a meeting with mr's kuchinelli and glau to discuss intelligence reports regarding conditions in guatemala honduras and al salvador the intelligence reports were designed to help asylum officers render better determinations regarding their

legal standards mr murphy's team at the dhs intelligence agency completed the intelligence reports and presented them to mr kuchinelli in the meeting mr murphy defended the work in his reports but mr kuchinelli stated he wanted changes to the information outlining high levels of corruption violence and poor economic conditions in these three respective countries mr kuchinelli expressed frustration with the intelligence reports and he accused unknown deep state intelligence analysts of compiling the intelligence information to undermine president donald j trump's policy objectives with respect to asylum so sure people who may be in favor of tighter gun regulation may also have armed security for themselves that that's fair enough but it doesn't

mean anything armed security guards are licensed and it's not like armed security guards are just random people that someone knows who happens to have gone you don't get a posse together as your armed security no as well the stuff about plosy wanting machine guns i'm not gonna believe anything that kuchinelli says without proof but i guess that's enough for oan raving asshole who wants to outlaw being gay said this thing so it must be true yeah yeah also i really don't care ted newton doesn't allow guns at his concert so fuck off fuck you fuck off you're done fuck you well we'll get to ted newton a little bit see that's what i know i know that it's coming up and it's just a huge fuck you that you're gonna say that and at 20 minutes before uh fuck off

fucking uh it's just why doesn't reality get a say not even like one say on the show well because it's in force i know but like it should have like one little moment there should be like a little flashing light that's just going like oh surprise this is both it's just something just some representation that reality is there yes absolutely he gets dragged into a back room where the truth is closed around yes something yeah that's not gonna happen nope anyway the shooter was a crazy leftist another deranged crazy leftist that if you believe the official story and they're changing every five minutes just went and killed 21 people 18 children at an elementary school what type of demon is being chased by the police

and thinks okay i'll just turn into this parking lot and i'll go into a school and kill a bunch of small children i mean this is all and again was this happening a year ago two years ago no no it was a pause and now suddenly ladies and gentlemen with a hundred eighty hundred and sixty eight days from the midterms just like we predicted it's now happening i don't know what alex even means by leftist anymore so this kind of falls flat for me in terms of how you'd even respond to that we know that the shooter was a horrific misogynist and threatened to rape and murder a bunch of women over the social media app uboe but that's not behavior that's necessarily specific to the left or right nope we know that you bought multiple guns and seems

to really like guns a lot gun ownership is certainly not specific to right wing folks but they are the ones who are more consistently preoccupied with guns from the available information i don't know if it would be appropriate to try and nail down any political ideology that the shooter ascribed to and it would be even further as a leap to attribute the shooting to any particular political motivation more information may come out on that front in time but as it stands now alex is just making that up in order to lump the shooter in with his political enemies and honestly it's probably mostly based on the hoax pictures of trans women that he got from 4chan that's probably what he's basing this on also you again have alex implying that the shooting has something

to do with the midterms in order for what he's saying to mean anything you really have to believe that he's implying some kind of foreknowledge on the part of the democrats or globalists or even that they caused the shooting alex is saying that there was a lull in mass shootings and then now magically just before the midterm they're happening again but even hohen has contradicted that narrative already pointing out that there have been over 200 mass shootings already in 2022 according to the gun violence archive there were 692 mass shootings in 2021 and 610 in 2020 these numbers actually represent an increase over previous years with 417 in 2019 and 336 in 2018 and one of the things that is kind of complicating about this is the specific criteria of what constitutes a mass

shooting right and so you have a lot of these but in terms of things like the school shooting that happened in uvaldi there are less of that kind of an event perhaps because schools were closed yeah for a period I mean so there is you could argue a dip sure in a sense sure sure but in terms of gross numbers of mass shootings there's not been there's actually been an increase alex is just making up the idea that there haven't been mass shootings because he doesn't know or care and acting like this is a thing that just mysteriously started happening again before the midterms allows him to get his audience to think it was probably fake without him having to take the responsibility of saying it yeah yeah he's got a proven track record so now he can just kind of

point to hey you remember when I said all this stuff I'm pointing to saying that stuff but I'm not saying it anymore because I might get sued although I fucking am saying it fuck it who cares nobody gives a shit alex does make it abundantly clear that he believes that the shooting happened and the people died uh so we do have that sure um but he is also playing fast and loose with uh is this orchestrated is it a false flag kind of stuff so it's just that gross uh middle ground bullshit that means nothing no it's not the sandy hook case it's the marself ontane case um so alex you know owen is hosting with him and his drum that he is beating is pills psych meds i can't pharmaceuticals great well you can go back into the 70s and you still had rifle classes at the

average high school and you had high school students bringing guns to school they would bring their rifles and keep it in a locker that was normal behavior and it wasn't considered a threat and nobody was shooting anybody because you didn't have a bunch of kids on pills and alex here here's my fear because side mass martyr pills and and here's here's my fear because there seems to be mystery still about the whole grandma aspect and then the odd thing where he runs away crashes his car runs into the school i've seen firsthand i've experienced this from friends of mine where um they'll start taking the pharmaceutical pills and then it doesn't even matter what kind i mean it's xanax riddling like there's all kinds of different it's all the same stuff and i've witnessed in my

own friends group before where friends of mine who never were on the psychotropic drugs in high school never exhibited any odd behavior we got into college they started taking the psychotropic drugs uh because the doctors prescribed it to them in college seems to be a trend it's like half of college students are on these pills now and and i immediately i noticed destructive behavior but what it is is that it's like a tumbling effect so it's like they'll do one thing destructive and then they'll do another thing and it's like there's it escalates and it just it gets worse and it gets worse and it gets worse and there's like a numbing effect and then it just gets worse and worse and worse that's all we have is an evil problem i have articles today i covered

where they're passing bills to kill babies a couple weeks after they're born and then we wonder why people do things like this real quick people aren't trying to kill babies after they're born and even if they were i don't see how that's connected to this shooting is alex trying to suggest that the shooter was motivated by an anger about abortion or is this just a spiritual thing where because there's abortions in the united states this evil has been visited upon us yeah it's just in the air either way that's stupid yeah and uh compare these numbers to other countries where abortion is available you'd think that there would be shootings all the time like there is here well that would be the logical and then you'd have to say that countries where

abortion is outright banned would probably be the most prosperous zero mass shootings complete victory uh in accordance with god's wishes and so they are protected from all harm like a rock yeah so the argument owen is trying to make here based on his experience in college is that the shooter was on the psychotropic drugs which apparently have a tumbling effect where you do one destructive thing and then you do another so the thinking here is that he shot his grandmother and then the tumble was that he shot up this school that's a fun fantasy for owen but in reality the shooter had sent messages on facebook prior to leaving his house about his plan to shoot his grandmother and then shoot people at the school also there's literally no evidence

that the shooter was on psych meds and you get a pretty strong sense that he almost certainly was not when you consider his living situation and how unlikely that it would be that he would have access to mental health care also psych meds don't cause the behavior that owen is describing he just had a friend who had some problems and he's blaming medication for it instead of trying to look at the broader picture because he's dumb and he needs something to blame for the tragedy other than guns and domestically violent men and so this is the outcome that you get you demonize certain vulnerable communities you demonize the idea of appropriate mental health care and uh i don't know it seems dumb it seems bad you know it's it's not a it's not a clever

observation but it does seem to be one that is uh impossible in america but if you don't deal with the root cause of a problem then you're only going to create more problems and exacerbate the root cause of the problem true and that's what america is and alex facilitates exactly yeah so there's one thing i agree with alex about and it's meaningless but alex does say that this shooting looks suspicious and based on some of the details about the police and uh their response yeah i agree yeah some stuff that's suspicious here i think the suspicions that alex and i have might diverge a bit sure but i'm just going to give that as a meaningless tip of the cap yes we agree that there's some suspicious variables they're fair the globalists have lost the gun control

debate people understand that that because there are psychopaths like this is the reason we need guns is the reason we need to protect ourselves and i'm sorry big public schools elementary schools for these demons are now targets just like i said you're gonna see a white supremacist attack on a black grocery store because you can see the pre-programming you can pick it up you can see where it's going whoever's behind it how do we predict that and the answer is we've done our studying and this whole thing is very suspicious with the midterms coming up and all of moron psychotropic's you take the guy from the parkland shooting dozens of times said he was going to kill people uh the because his last name was cruz they couldn't arrest him because of a

george soros appointed district attorney or elected district attorney and we're not saying it didn't happen we're saying they let him do it and it's the same story over and over again one of the things that really sucks is that because of the police response and the way that the story shifted over the days immediately after the shooting alex's consistent narrative about these things becomes a little bit easier for people to accept whenever he's not feeling very ambitious and doesn't want to make too bold of a statement alex will always say that the police ordered a stand down surrounding events like mass shootings he says that all the time and he's always making it up but because of the particular details of this police response he may be able

to convince some people that he's got the goods on this one well they did order a stand down not really in the way that alex not in the way that alex uses the term and again this will be more of an issue for future episodes sure but it's the reason that i bring it up now is because alex isn't saying that sure on the immediate day of when ironically yeah considering that this would have been the one time where the optics of it and the things surrounding it totally make the argument of the what alex means by a stand down right right right well i mean maybe even more the colloquial meaning of a stand down as opposed to alex's specific meaning of a stand down right the idea that the cops ordered don't do anything that is what we are talking about alex is talking about

the cops ordered we don't do anything because the globalists told us to so we can get as many kids dead so then we get gun control or whatever the right right right yeah and i and those are those are differences that will definitely get more into detail in a future episode yeah all that being said alex is basically wrong about everything he's saying in that clip shooters aren't always on psychotropic drugs there's no evidence that this shooter was and while nicholas cruz had taken meds in the past there's no evidence that he had for approximately a year before the shooting this is a standard talking point that gun fanatics used to derail conversations about shootings but it's not based in reality the broward county state attorney is currently

herald prier but he was elected in 2020 prior to that the office was filled by michael satz the narrative that alex is going off of is about how soros is paying to get prosecutors and da's put an office who will follow his instructions but with satz that doesn't make sense since he'd been office uh in that office since 1976 alex also has a talking point about how they couldn't arrest nicholas cruz because he had a hispanic last name but this is just alex being racist in reality he this is referring to the fact that in middle school cruz had been uh uh he vandalized a school bathroom and instead of getting arrested he was referred to an alternative disciplinary program promise the basic idea of it was to take students who do things that are bad but not super bad and

make sure that their mistake doesn't bring them into the criminal justice system cruz never completed that program but the fact that he was sent to this instead of getting arrested for a misdemeanor vandalism charge has nothing to do with the shooting and has nothing to do with his last name this is just a racist story alex has come up with to weave a compelling story for his audience who are always hungry for racist stories and that's that's one of the things that he throws around a lot yeah and uh it's it's bullshit yep everything that he has surrounding shootings basically is all bullshit yeah it's all bullshit and it's self aggrandizing and it's contributing to the problem i mean you're you're demonizing uh a neuro atypical people and trying to keep them from getting

medication you're you're demonizing just wide swaths of anybody who just doesn't want to own shit tons of guns and then at the end of it you're saying like we gotta keep guns so and and you're putting more cops in schools increasing the risk of a shooting and you're creating an atmosphere where discussion of sensible gun regulations that aren't everybody's guns are going to be taken you can't buy a gun ever again yeah that kind of conversation is more likely to lead to outbreaks of violence yeah uh but because of the tenor of the conversation that happens on alex's show yep because of the sensationalization of this coverage the prospect of making progress towards a better status quo sure where people can stay armed responsibly and we make it more

difficult for people who have a propensity or are more likely to commit violent crimes with the guns i have a harder time getting it that will the conversation surrounding that will just end up with people being like over my dead body right well it's important to it's important to look at the way that they talk about this and if you think about the nra the nra and its behaviors are identical to fucking uh philip morris or whatever when smoking was going on whatever we know if you get us any regulations towards smoking then we feel like it's gonna go away forever so we have to go as crazy as we can you can't you can't smoke on a plane they went fucking apeshit over all of that stuff because if you get one little thing in there then they're worried about that well and you

know why they were aware of that because it because it killed people and they fucking knew it well and people who were actually opposed to sort of some of those restrictions about smoking once they actually came into effect i think were for them yeah you know like i remember when i lived in columbia missouri when they were having an indoor smoking ban mm-hmm and i remember i went to the bar i always used to go to east side tavern you know you could smoke inside it was great you know you'd get drunk you'd do karaoke you'd smoke yeah and i remember being very hostile towards the idea of a smoking ban sure i have to go outside and then six months later i loved it i loved it it was so much oh my god i can breathe inside this fucking bar why was i smoking inside like an idiot right

right right and i couldn't see that possibility because i was uh i was holding on to my absolutism about being able to have a have a drink and a smoke i should be able to do it right and i i think that that's part of the reason why you these industries may be worried about some absolutely because people might realize oh we prefer it on the other side of this of course and and again it's because they know they're killing people that's why they're so fucking angry and trying to stop any kind of adjustment it's because they know beyond a reasonable doubt they are murderers perhaps yeah so here's uh oh and saying some dumb shit well and and it just becomes a really it becomes a media phenomenon where they just pick and choose which shootings that they want to cover and which ones

they don't they could not cover this at all and most people would have no idea it happened uh that's what happens with 99 percent of mass shootings in this country is they don't cover it and so nobody knows it happens but then they pick and choose the ones i want to cover and obviously becomes politicized but there's one solution i mean there is only one solution to this alex and that is you have to have armed security that's just the fact i don't know you've got a big church or you've got a college or school there has to be armed security everywhere this is just next level stupid like i wonder if oan can think of any situation where there was a shooting in the u.s where a bunch of elementary school kids were murdered and the media didn't cover it so we have just no idea that it

happened i sincerely wonder what oan thinks is going on in the world if that's something he's going to say with a straight face on this show many shootings while obviously sad and something that should be taken seriously are local issues they don't really concern people outside of a certain geographical region so they don't often get much media attention from national outlets or even outside of their news market a lot of mass shootings don't result in deaths and often there aren't even severe injuries so that isn't really something that like cnn is going to cover conversely something like a shooting with over a dozen child fatalities at an elementary school is going to get a lot of coverage because it's an absolute tragedy that wherever you live nearby or not

whether you know anyone in uvaldi or not you're gonna feel that pain and we grieve together and let's imagine that the scenario that oan's talking about let's imagine that this shooting happened and all the major national media didn't even touch it do you think for a second that wouldn't become the next info wars conspiracy if the media covers a story they're pushing an agenda if they don't cover the story they're engaged in a cover up there's no situation where a response to a mass shooting will ever satisfy people like alex and oan because they're not acting from a sincere position none of these things are actual arguments they're the performance of the normal deflections they use to bully people out of talking about guns in the aftermath of a tragedy and as for the point

about armed security that school district had all sorts of policies in place already and they didn't do anything yet armed police they're on the scene and it didn't do anything to stop it in 2019 governor abbott signed a law that was passed to allow teachers to be armed and created measures to harden the security at schools this was after a mass shooting at santa fe high school in houston left 10 people dead and there was pressure on abbott to do something according to the associated press they did all this stuff about hardening the schools because it was preferable to the alternative quote efforts to create so-called red flag laws to keep guns away from people deemed to be dangerous to themselves and others and to toughen penalties for negligent home storage

were defeated these solutions offered by oan and alex aren't solutions they're just like the texas government passing laws to harden schools to avoid addressing gun related issues alex and oan are creating their own fake solutions so they don't have to get into territory that directly implicates their own ideology it should not require a superhuman intellect to look at an arms race and think escalation is only going to escalate problems so if your arms race is these kids are coming into schools with guns and killing people so i'm gonna escalate by putting arm security out front well now the kids who want to go murder people are gonna have to find a way to deal with your arm security out front so then they do that so then what happened didn't what do we arm next

why don't we give the fucking kids guns it's only going to escalate if you escalate things didn't alex see the end of batman begin i know it's insane i know he has he sees every movie it is it it shouldn't be it it's so fucking stupid it is stupid it is all of their ideas are nonsensical because they're not meant to make no absolutely not and here's another one but imagine if you had you don't have to arm every teacher but the teachers that want to get armed to take a class have a concealed carry make sure their arm one time one time a shooter tries to go into a school and gets his head blown off by an armed teacher guess what school shootings are over with because they know it's not a soft target anymore but still school shootings are less than a hundred people a

year it's terrible we don't want to think of children being killed but with 350 million people it is still a statistical anomaly and something they're hyping up i thought like last week we were mad at schools because the teachers were pushing crt and trying to groom students and now they should have guns yep okay yep we want the teachers who teach crt to be shot with guns and we want the teachers who don't teach crt to have the guns to shoot them with does that make sense no it's complicated no it really doesn't so owen is really coming off as about the stupidest asshole imaginable on this show he really expects me to buy that once one teacher shoots someone trying to do a school shooting the problem to solve itself because people know that schools aren't soft targets whoa

i honestly can't stress how stupid this is enough like it's very dumb oh i mean well imagine if a shooter was killed in the act of a mass shooting then then all the future shooters would know like we're not going to survive this sure yeah for one thing the other place that alex and the crew always refer to as soft targets uh it's churches so using owen's logic one would think that the minute someone trying to do a shooting at a church was confronted by good guys with guns people would uh they'd stop trying to shoot up churches since they knew it wouldn't be a soft target but this isn't the case the sutherland spring shooting in 2017 was stopped by steven williford an armed neighbor who came to help and yet there have been church shooting since there

was another one in texas even in 2019 at the west freeway church of christ where an armed volunteer security guard killed a shooter mid attack and yet even after that there have still been church shootings just this month uh there was a shooting at the geneva presbyterian church in laguna woods california the fact that aspiring church shooters have run into armed resistance apparently hasn't made the dine uh the dramatic impact that owen is pretending that it would and shootings continue to imagine that a different dynamic would exist uh with schools is pure fantasy it's nonsense yeah another thing to consider is that most shooters don't expect to survive their attacks many of them kill themselves rather than allowing themselves to get caught so i don't think they care that much

if there's a good guy with a gun there who kills them after they've been able to do a bunch of damage which is really their goal yep i thought these dudes were supposed to be against the prison planet and the whole militarizing of society and here they are wanting to turn schools into army bases seems fucking stupid well if your argument is remember there's only a hundred kids in a country of 350 million then your argument should be don't do anything not not like because you're acceptable loss right we know that's the argument that he's making absolutely and we know that putting more police in schools leads to more kids being arrested for no fucking reason leads to more trauma all of those active shooter drills only traumatize children and they clearly despite having been done

so many places especially you've all been right don't fucking do anything right so if your argument is it's nobody then don't do anything because you're only traumatizing more children to do nothing for the children who are going to be murdered right and you create more of an environment that's sort of it feels car surreal uh with oh yeah it's fucked metal detectors and cops all over a school like it's it's it's not at at my partner's school the day after what happened did they have a communal session did everybody come together and grieve did anybody even talk about their issues nope what happened was every single kid walked through the door was searched viciously went through a metal detector was questioned was all of this shit and then told to go about their day nothing see they

didn't they didn't take my proposal which i i pitched alex actually i should say um and that is that every school room is equipped with a mine i like that and the teacher teaches with their finger right over a remote button right right all times totally yeah yeah yeah because there's that's the only way to be truly safe sure well and even then you want to be able to contain the problem so you've got one mine in every classroom so if somebody goes into the classroom sure you have to sacrifice everybody in there and probably the people in the classroom above you well for sure but that's to keep everybody else safe so you got to have that sure yeah all dumb yeah so uh but like alex what he's doing there like we were sort of you know talking about is he's minimizing using statistics

and that's really shitty yeah and you might notice that he never does that when it comes to like let's say crimes committed by immigrants he'll take a single incident like that and extrapolate that out into being the greatest ill in society and prove that we need closed militarized borders but here when a bunch of school kids are murdered he implores you to put the numbers in perspective and it's because he's a callow piece of shit just trying to push his right wing uh politics that has nothing to do uh with the reality of the statistics or anything like that he's an opportunistic fuck yep yep these people are a fucking blight a fucking blight so um alex as uh i don't know if you know this but he moonlights as a fbi profiler or at least that's the sense that i got from listening

to this clip oh this guy was hispanic supposedly if it's even true whatever's going on we'd be fools just believe we're being told i'm not saying it didn't happen or the way we're being told didn't happen because the story's changing all the time first he was captured now he's dead but imagine if it'd been a white drug addict shoot him up video game head and i'm not bashing anybody like shoot him up video games we're saying the profile is a guy that can't get a girlfriend or a guy that has a girlfriend break up with him who is generally a nerd a trendy who is on psychotropic who's into satanism this guy fixed the bill that then somehow is satanically guided or spiritually guided to kill children i mean why would you go and do this well why would you kill

innocent children what is going on it's a selfishness it's a true demonic evil and the answer is not giving our guns up when the children of the debos group and the children of the democratic party and the children of the abortion industry and the children of this whole church of satanism we're dealing with are out there running rampant engaged in carnage against us it's a surrender to say we're going to give up our weapons like oh somebody beats somebody death of their fist cut my hands off it's a fraud we know it's a fraud no but if someone created a fist gun you might want to you know and it killed people yeah easily you might want to restrict that i mean also is just point of order the children of the abortion industry uh they're they don't exist it

they don't exist they're non-existent so uh that uh just small correction i mean it seems odd for him to struggle getting into the mind of somebody who wants to kill innocent children considering every time he looks at his daughter he says to her i am willing to accept that you will die in a mass shooting in order to make sure that i still get to hang on to all my guns in that closet over there so at the end of the day your life is worth less than those guns over there just in case you were wondering every morning when we say hi i love those guns more than you being alive i wonder i i know i i don't know if alex's current child is homeschooled i know that his other kids went to public school yeah but i i wonder yeah philosophically they should be

yeah but i guess i don't really care i mean like it's not really personal no it's his choice i don't know why i went off on that it's just an interesting thought so alex insists still uh that uh the pictures of the uh trans woman are the shooter great and uh oan gets dumb well and there's a reason why if you look up uh pharmaceutical it's i mean this guy's wearing a skirt should we ban skirts because you wore a skirt it's it's the origins of of pharmaceutical pharma kia which is just uh old latin origins of um evil and so that's why pharmaceutical companies have a snake in their logo because they know i'm sorry what they're feeding you evil pills oan's got this wrong uh pharmaceutical is derived both from latin and greek and the word just has

to do with drugs one thing that's interesting though is when you look at the greek root words this is fascinating because in greek you have the word pharma kios which can be translated as a poisoner or a sorcerer sure but that is just because the word pharma con is a bit of a catch all meaning things from drugs to poisons to spells and enchantments like an apothecary kind of yeah yeah the witch in the woods would have all this stuff the same dynamic uh exists within latin where the word pharma sia can mean both healing or harming medicines or even a magical potion the belief is that this word is based on something that predates greek and there's a phenomenon among archaic languages where the words for like poison and medicine are often the same differentiated by

context and surrounding words it's not super uncommon in these languages right right right so that's sort of a confusion that uh he's playing around right and then hermes's snake is going to be uh yeah there's a ton of words for evil in latin and greek depending on what sort of evil you're talking about but pharma kia is not one of them also snakes aren't the symbol of medicine because of some connection to evil there's a this is referring to two symbols that are often used to denote medicine the caduceus and the rod of asclepius the first one is a snake coiled around a pole and the other one is the two snakes entwined around a staff that has wings at the top one of the very obvious connections here is that asclepius is the greek god of healing

and that's the goal of medicine yeah so that's that's a big part of it sure there are also two main reasons why the snake has become a symbol in the medic medical field the first is that in the book of numbers after the people lose their faith in the wilderness and start speaking out against god in moses god sends fire snakes to bite people when the people realize the error of their ways and beg moses for help uh here i'm going to read to you from numbers 21 versus seven and eight go for it quote therefore the people came to moses and said we have sinned for we have spoken against the lord and against thee pray unto the lord that he take away the serpents from us and moses prayed for the people and the lord said unto moses make thee a fiery serpent and set it upon a pole and

it shall come to pass that everyone that is bitten when he looketh upon it shall live there's a biblical route to one of the primary reasons that the snake is associated with the symbology for medicine the other reason is the metaphor of a snake shedding its skin and going from old and weary to young and new again which is analogous to the doctor's goal of healing people anyway oan has just made up a bunch of dumb shit or maybe he read it on a dumb blog and he's parroting it to his audience pretending that it means anything and using it to demonize psych meds which he insists were to blame for the shooting even though he has actually no idea if they are he's dumb and a piece of shit yeah moses god was a lot more metal you know fiery snake on a stick yeah moses god was really

fucking metal jesus's god was pretty and he was kind of christian rocky but moses god was fucking metal there's a strength in silence and poise and not using fire snakes yeah i i always just love it when uh they they do meme etymology yeah i know it's just it's just what are you guys so dumb talking about but it it sounds smart to people who don't know sure anything that's why the memes work yeah and they work on oan exactly yeah and then oan spouts them to other people they would work on yeah so anyway alex still uh believes these pictures are real sure the big question is what are we gonna do now oan that magically there's a shooting last week in buffalo by white supremacist and magically now there's this magic and by the way the crew is really smart

they catch things i don't catch you guys were zooming in on the stockings the guy was wearing or was it the picture behind him so in my ear so i'm missing it you were showing the end cell reported shooter uh and you were zooming in on his legs was was it the stockings we were looking at or oh it looks like oh that's a wow i'm dumb look at there's like a handprint oh no that is the hand no it's a photo that could easily be uh that look that could be anything his leg could be lifted up i have no idea what they're talking about um but because they're talking about stockings uh and legs you know which picture that they're referencing so again we have this very consistent thread yeah that is talking about this uh specific hoax uh this target right of a hoax right so i think you

could pretty clearly demonstrate that based on what they're talking about wouldn't be too hard um so alex is is is really dancing around like whether this is staged or not of course and that's because he's a piece of shit yeah oh and look i don't want to say this was staged provocative but we have specifically said with two years of hardly any mass shootings that with all the pre-programming that mass shootings are coming and terrorists are going to attack and we got to take the guns and then i'm like well i would predict a lot of mass shootings right before the election and then like clockwork it's happening you know to me it's just very opportunistic what's happening but that's the thing alex there have been mass shootings guys plug into a google search

right now 198 mass shootings no you're right but it wasn't at schools and it wasn't black folks whoa so yeah um this is convoluted and with the point that alex is trying to drive that is i don't want to say this was staged but come on guys i really want to say this is staged i feel like i'm not allowed to say that it's staged anymore and i really do want to say that so i'm going to try and get you to kind of give me some cover to say that i can speculate about it so whenever people are like you claimed that it was fate i can actually say we were just talking about right and that's why alex ends up taking a bunch of calls yeah of course of course uh but also like yeah there there's there's this sense of like people will think i go i went soft if i take

seriously totally but also i run some very serious risks if i go too far in the other direction i think i might be able to outlast this lawsuit until we get full fascism in america and then they won't be able to stop me and oan has to put the brakes on him with being like there were a bunch of mass shootings all right we got another three years before full fascism and you're probably going to lose that lawsuit so oan goes on to his uh uh thought there that there have been mass shootings and he has them pull up the number and it's just when they decide to cover it i mean that's all it is when do they decide to cover it i guess you're right on there have actually been the regular couple hundred a year and it's all in democrat inner cities so

they don't want to cover it but this one happened like you said tragically at a school i can blame texas out in a rural area in texas so they figured hey this is a good one to cover uh we can use this tragedy by the way i think this happened i think 18 children are dead i think three adults are dead and it and when this happened today when i got off here and saw you covering i said i bet it's an in cell i bet it's a dude to dress and like when davis chappell said i just got attacked by a training and it was and i'm not trying to be mean to some people that are like that but man statistically these people are have a higher percentage of whacked out folks you can kind of tell that alex has a little bit of the burpees there and like he's he's communicating

weird that's some of the it's it's hard to exactly put into words but listening to him talk as much as i do this is a this is a weird tone here he had a happy hour after work could be or he could just be tired but i i don't know again i have no interest in pretending that oan sincerely doesn't understand why the media would cover the buffalo and you've all these shooter shootings more than say i don't know the march 7th shooting in noxville tennessee where four people were injured and no one was killed it's a false premise oan is using and he knows damn well the bullshitties peddling now i was interested in the notion that he put forth that these mass shootings are all in democrat controlled inner cities i wondered if that was true so i decided

to analyze the data of all the mass shootings this year and see if what oan was saying was in any way accurate here's what i found the first thing i learned is that looking at the numbers like this is stupid this is in no way a red state blue state thing nor is it an inner city rural area issue there are mass shootings in smaller cities and there are mass shootings in urban centers i'm not positive this means anything but since i took the time to compile this here are the numbers defining red and blue states by their governor for red states you have 102 mass shootings total with 124 fatalities and 455 injuries for blue states you have 114 total mass shootings with 123 fatalities and 483 injuries overall it's pretty close so like i said i don't know if it means

anything it doesn't that being said texas was the leader in every category with only california even coming close that might mean something anyway i guess the point is that i was curious about if what oan was saying meant anything and after consulting the numbers i've come to the strong conclusion that he's talking out of his ass which i should have just assumed yeah you know sometimes you just like let me let me make a spreadsheet here yeah it's it's so fucked up how far they've won that they don't even have to remember hundreds and hundreds of mass shootings you know like they don't even have to think about it they're surprised that there are so many mass shootings when a large one like this happens alex has to be reminded yeah exactly he has to be

reminded that he's making shit up about there not being mass shootings right and he and it's just like man if you guys weren't playing full court press since all of the mass shootings then ugh man so look man alex gets back to uh a bit of narcissism uh while oan uh laments the society in decay share if metal detectors and armed police would protect these schools out before it but the real thing to do is to arm the teachers and the principals and others so when a mass murderer like this comes in there who's demonically of the democratic party wanting to kill children they're obsessed with raping them or killing them destroying their innocence there's people stopping we have a demon problem we have a satanic

collapse problem the bible predicted and the answer is not us rolling over but us saying okay you want to try to come after me you want to try to kill me you want to try to enslave me i am going to defend myself well that's the story i mean we have lost our moral compass the this is just yet another sign of a decaying civilization is what this is children out killing children you're in a decaying civilization and of course where does someone think okay the cops are chasing me i'm going to go kill elementary students sandy hook sandy hook sandy hook everything i cover barely ever covered sandy hook alex jones sandy hook sandy hook kill kids kill kids kill kids kill kids elementary kill kids they're introducing the crazy people's minds go to elementary schools

kill kids that's so obvious what they're doing this isn't about you prick like i don't know how to say it more simply it's disgusting but that word doesn't seem right no i don't know claiming the media killed all of those children is pretty disgusting but it's not big enough the the the part about alex thinking that his persecution caused this is if they hadn't have criticized me then these shootings would never happen i i mean like i think if i was someone in his life i'd probably hospitalize him for saying something like that that's so fucked up multiple times it's it's indicative of like a really troubling thought pattern yeah i mean you i mean literally you can't participate in society if that's how you

think well you have to assume that literally everything is about you yeah um and that's so society can only touch you you can't ever participate you're never on the team society and you can only really understand everything that goes on in the world as an extension of you and that's dangerous yeah no i mean it's it's impossible to argue that he doesn't have a very severe mental uh uh faculty issue uh at least a dangerous narcissistic streak yeah blah so anyway they decided they're going to take a break to play some special reports great but first we're gonna air a couple special reports we're gonna come back with sean steve mark don and others but first off oan would you like to lead us in a prayer for these

dead children and these dead teachers and the wounded uh would you like me to do it sure alex do your god please be with the families that are suffering tonight in uvaldi texas and that community please god protect that community from the satanic agenda that is surrounding it right now it's a little bit of a political prayer man i think this is a little gross man moses's god really would have blown him fucking sky high fire snakes and the abor studio the idea of oan leading a prayer if moses his god was real oh god he would explode so oan wraps up his prayer here and protect this nation as we are going into the arms of satan lord please protect this nation in jesus name i pray amen i'm in all right you're absolutely right and protect our little

children because these demons are coming for our children at every level and they have pre-programmed psychos just like this so when the chips are down they go to kill children to make their final deal with satan like any satanist would do and the answer is weapons and being informed and watchful to defend ourselves that's a good response to a prayer the answer is weapons you know this reminds me of another bible story this reminds me i think it was elijah uh whenever god and ball were having a whole argument right god and ball were like ah god's like i don't like ball so the priest of ball tried to light this thing on fire using the power of ball right and then elijah tried to light this thing on fire using the power of god so elijah does it and the ball guys didn't and then god killed

all the ball guys too just for fun you know just for funsy that kind of thing like that would be here's what we do okay oan can pray right and then i get to enact some form of assault weapons ban and we'll see which one is more effective well that's that's um i mean empirically i think that'd be really difficult to to make i think we can compare all right yeah i'm sure i you know i i was thinking you were gonna just make up a bible story oh no and uh i was i was just thinking that if you ever want to make up a bible story you should say that it was a haba cook because no one remembers what haba cook did uh haba cook what did he do you have no idea i have no idea so um they do their special report and then they come back and they take some calls and this guy seems like his tone

is not good let's start with shawn in nebraska with i think um a couple callers on this issue it's it's the biggest cover-up when it comes to these shootings and that's the pharmaceutical drug every time one of these incels is on a bunch of pharmaceuticals and psychotrophics go ahead shawn how you guys doing tonight that dude's tone is a bit inappropriate wow and the call he's making is to build the conspiracy about the cover-up of something he has no idea about that's kind of the level of bullshit workshopping that's so important uh that they had to do this special episode yeah it's entirely pointless except to drive into the audience's heads that no matter what they hear this person was on psych meds the psych meds made him commit murder and there's a cover-up about

whether or not he was on those meds if the media says he wasn't on meds that means he was and if they say he was on meds that means he was on even more it's all just pointless meaningless and dangerous ultimately hurting people who are hurting and need psychological help but are being told that the meds will make them crazy there's no proof that psych meds have a causal link to these sorts of shootings unless you're into blindly accepting propaganda put out by the church of Scientology in that case you might reach that conclusion yeah they were really heavy on that one yeah yeah so this same caller has a really stupid point also on the buyback program people need to understand that on the buyback program for the guns there's no questions asked so when you have buyback programs

in town gun thefts go through the rough because there's no questions asked i just want to make a point of that this guy's a complete idiot what when they say no questions asked it means that if you have a gun you're not legally allowed to own in a certain state you won't get in trouble for bringing it to a buyback yeah it doesn't mean they just accept whatever gun from anybody every state has the authority to run these programs however they choose but typically how they do it is that when a gun is turned in they run the serial number of it through the database of reported stolen guns if that number matches a stolen gun they can't destroy it without contacting the legal owner and getting their permission in some states you'll also get arrested if you're trying to uh if

you're the person who's trying to turn in a stolen gun this guy says he lives in Nebraska where it's a class 2a felony to attempt to dispose of a stolen firearm so i'm guessing he's just seen some dumb memes and decided that there are people out there stealing everyone's guns so they can sell them to the government sure nonsense that's that no flawless logic right there because they don't ask questions you steal guns right uh so then you steal guns and then you give them to the buyback program because they don't ask questions and also i would think i would think that stealing guns would be something that alex thinks can't happen because you would be targeting someone who you know is armed i mean you would think yeah wouldn't the possession of the gun stop the person from wanting to steal

the gun here is here is your problem with the good guy with the gun scenario if the bad guy can steal your guns easily that's an issue a good guy can be disarmed if they can get their gun stolen very quickly right and it's not good and if it's someone who is able to steal your guns just based on a desire to sell them back to the government yeah imagine if they wanted to do harm with them so stupid insane yep but i mean it makes sense if you're just like it's the kind of thinking that should be um isolated to people in a bong circle yeah like sitting around talking about like oh man i bet i bet if they didn't ask question that's a way to make some extra cash man that's what i'm saying so you could make a little bit extra cash right because they don't ask questions they don't

know where the guns came from you didn't go fuck it we could steal from walmart they wouldn't even fucking know man it's like a uh like uh the people coming up with a bad caper yeah 100 this is how we're gonna get rich yeah yeah who's our grease man all right uh man i was thinking about a bottle rocket the other day and that just triggered my mind on it again a bad caper that is a bad caper oh god though that's pretty good movie oh future man he's so cool future man there's a character named future man it's yeah it's a good movie so uh they get another call and this person has worked out a storyline about uh the idea that the shooter was trans sure mark an arizona was talking about mike adams go ahead yeah um mike adams just posted on natural news dot com that the kid was a

transsexual and i think we could uh dark yeah we have the photos we'll put them on screen yeah that the he he killed seven eight nine year old maybe that's where he went to elementary school and he's just going back to where it all began and so he was groomed there and then set up and transitioned through high school and it drove him crazy so he saw his grandma and then went back to the start elaborate on that so alex is eating yeah um yeah so that's fucked up this guy's just created a fun uh story for himself a narrative arc uh based on hoax pictures and just what he assumes might have happened to somebody in elementary school this is fucked up yep this kind of stuff is just not even it's not even unproductive it's it's not even counterproductive no something

it's just i i mean it's it's astonishing like i really don't understand this person on like a on a fundamental level i listen to somebody say that and i do not know where i belong anymore i kind of understand what's going on yeah in his head because he's somebody who believes this bullshit sure and it's someone trying to make sense of the information that's being presented to him as truth so he's come up with this explanation in his head and i can understand that now what i have a difficult time understanding is feeling like there's any merit in saying it out loud there's any merit in calling into a national radio show the night of a shooting to share this theory as if it means anything right i understand the way that our brains work sure that there's a

lot of times you put pieces of information together to try and create a story to help you understand something you create a pattern where maybe there necessarily isn't one i get that and the pieces of information that he has are bad and wrong so the story that he's come up with is bad and wrong of course the the the taking action to share it is weird but now that part i don't understand at all yeah i mean if i was obviously i've spent many many a day concocting some sort of narrative to try and make some conspiracy theory makes sense sure you know like this so i understand him coming up with this story a plausible enough sounding drawing all of this bullshit into a you know more grounded place of like a human pathos like this he'd know the the

weirdest part is this this guy is tacitly admitting that trans people are discriminated against on a on a constant level i i don't even know that's that's not fair i don't even know we aren't playing the rest of his call but he's talking he's talking more about the idea that teachers made him oh my fuck me stuff like that and fuck off yeah no no you're giving him way too much for ever yeah you're right i am giving him way too much credit jesus christ uh so yeah who anyway this is a useless use of time for for alex everyone just at least he's eating so i guess it's useful for him so alex does keep dancing around the idea of false flaggery the big questions are how many false flags will leftist themselves carry out they they catch leftists every day

staging racial attacks on synagogues black churches you name it who are liberals to demonize america well the next step would be just go out and kill people and then you can blame america sounds a little fucked up but also they don't catch people doing that every day nope false flagging synagogues i i mean it is fucked up that currently he's trying to demonize groups of people i'm shocked that he didn't bring up jesse small it i am i am a little shocked yeah yeah says go to yep hmm yeah yeah man so this next call is uh fun i guess alex on my black brother can't get no justice in the court and now you see what it's like but we're all pulling for you see that's funny because this guy's trying to express solidarity with alex but the way he's

doing it actually invalidates a giant argument alex he yells about all the time according to alex black people should have no problem getting justice in the courts because there's no such thing as systemic racism why this caller sounds like he's trying to push crt it's hard to believe that alex doesn't shout him down and correct him the way he would if some left-leaning person were to try to tell him that black people are treated unfairly in the justice system it does seem alex should say excuse me you've never had any trouble with the justice system because the entire globalist sphere is angled towards making sure you get away with crimes as much as possible so you can't express solidarity with me as a white person i'm the only one

persecuted by the american justice system sir hey it's strange it doesn't respond that way it does seem hot oh that would be a more appropriate response yep so ted newgent uh shows up bad news that is an appropriate response hey how you doing ted when i speak i you know alex we've spent time together i i don't have hunches and i eliminate presumptions in my life i i look into evidence and i embrace the evidence that i am exposed to and i just cannot overstate the heartbreak and i know you know that but i don't think we should pivot off the pain and suffering right now to allow politics to enter this for as long as we possibly can till we get all the answers if new jen isn't it to hunches and loves information he should check

in with his nutty q and on wife also a little late to uh talk alex off the ledge of getting political new jen should have come on at the beginning of the show maybe i would have stopped alex from saying a bunch of fake shit and misidentifying another mass shooter yeah also ted new jen is bringing up like we should you know feel the pain and all this like that hasn't been a part of this broadcast at all nope that that recognizing the pain and really like not pivoting off it is like if it wasn't ted new jen saying it i think i'd probably be okay with the sentiment sure but it has nothing to do with what this inforce coverage has been i mean this has been in the face of the pain i mean this has been a front oh and oh and said a prayer that i i mean did it

mention the families yeah a little bit a little bit yeah yeah i didn't play the entire prayer but it was a little bit but it also had to do with the satanic forces exactly and it was clearly like code for democrats and gun control 100 yeah but so yeah this has been quite political uh and uh oh a couple minutes or not even minutes a couple maybe 30 seconds later ted new jen gets political there we go i'm on with you right now alex i am not only dedicated and passionate and emotional about representing the heartbeat of broken hearted americans especially in the valdy texas but i'm also on with you right now alex while one of the worst human beings that has ever slithered the earth is on television right now a man who thinks he's the president

of the united states a horrible evil heartless soulless treasonous man named joe by yeah let's not get political uh i think that like your hours mere hours after someone murdered elementary school students um and you're going out of your way to say that joe biden is one of the worst people who has ever existed i mean it's it's a little bit much immediately after saying you represent the heart of everyone grieving broken heart of middle america yeah yeah i assume that immediately following this tragedy they were like oh biden is a snake uh yeah also cool by the way and before after that last clip uh i brought up his wife being into q anon and that felt like maybe it seemed like a cheap shot no but his wife does come up later yeah she appears later so there we go

there is sort of a it's in there it's not out of nowhere you're not just pulling it from the right right yeah i got you so ted uh this guy man loves evidence of things he's rigorous um and also loves deniesha susan well of course i'm a huge supporter and believer in evidence evidence that i bet when i scrutinize and i research with all my heart and soul and deniesha susan has documented that in his documentary 2000 mules that the 2020 election was fraudulent dead people by the millions voted that illegal people voted that that fraud and criminal corruption took place in the 2020 election and that joe biden did not win the 2020 election legally case closed i've come to realize this i'm into evidence and i do my research that isn't something

that these people say sincerely even like it didn't even mean it it's not meant to be taken seriously because it's not an actual statement of what they practice as much as it's a statement of how they want to be seen it's a catchphrase basically i mean it's my it's them saying i'm not a racist but you know somewhat yeah i mean ted nugent doesn't research it he doesn't have any evidence of anything but he wants that to be his brand and how he's presented to the wider world of right wing shitheads he doesn't have any evidence of anything in 2000 mules doesn't prove any of that shit this is what i would describe as pathetic virtue signaling be done by idiots who want to be they're desperate to be taken seriously as smart people but they don't want to do anything to to

merit that it's hard to be smart right you have to work at it people think that you're just like smart you know you don't have to read books or or like learn things or like continuously educate yourself ever ending never stopping it's a practice yeah but not not being smart as a practice but like have like being interested in evidence and the things that you're talking about being grounded is something that you have to do it's not something that you are and the way that nugent and these people like him engage with that is like no this is a characteristic of me yeah and that's i think fraudulent but i also think that it's it's never meant to be really like serious no i mean it is it is nice to though have it as a an inherent characteristic if you are on this shit because

even when you don't do any research you can always be like no you know me i do my research it's an inherent characteristic that i've established part of my uh you know backstory so you've got that to rely on even when you're full of shit right like yeah which is always it's annoying it is very annoying so anyway ted nugent's really excited because moderate democrats i don't know i really don't i'm i'm struggling ted nugent understands that this is immediately following and he doesn't want to get political but moderate democrats sure uh i don't know what moderate democrats are hanging out with ted fucking nugent great but moderate democrats are starting to realize that democrats are evil i'm telling you that this is so ugly that here to force so-called moderate democrats

they're finally getting their head out of their ass and they're going wait a minute if you don't have secure borders you're not even a country when you facilitate the invasion of fentanyl and methamphetamine when you reward coyotes trafficking children for sex and profit when you see it wide open that those that thought they had a hope for a democrat lifestyle they're finally going my god these the current democrats in the united states of america they are pure evil they are treasonous in every act word indeed no you're right i mean i mean my wife plays tennis all the time as all these liberal friends they're all have woken up they're all talking about donald trump and ted nugent literally and so no matter how many fraudulent votes they've got they're waking up

their very base that this is a suicide pact they're part of this is big news wow alex's wife's tennis partner has become pilled i can't believe alex's wife's affluent tennis partner friends would eventually turn against populist ideologies like uh you know well so crazy i just like these these characters that don't exist on the show but sure and probably don't exist in the real world but most certainly exist as figments of alex's imagination i really do enjoy tracking them yeah whenever alex's wife's tennis partners come up they've got a lot to say yeah yeah there's a lot of intel that comes from them they're a bit like a greek chorus you know they're they're there in the background and they they contribute when necessary and apparently alex is using them to do exit polling

figuring out the pulse of the country by way of tennis partners yep um so ted nugent uh has something to promote but he's doing it in a way that i would describe as dishonest we know conservatives that aren't even registered to vote we have to fix them we have to scold them we have to chastise them beg plead we've got to i don't care what you have to do but if you believe in god family country law and order individual freedoms constitution bill rights you've got to get everybody in your life to vote those core values we started hunter nation dot org please my friends join me at hunter nation dot org it's the clearinghouse alex for conservatives to get everybody in their life who believes in all the good things that make the greatest quality of life in the history of

humanity here in the united states of america particularly here in texas oh man i remember when these guys were saying democrats doing like get out the vote efforts and registration drives were evil and they were just trying to steal an election by signing up fake people now ted is yelling about getting people registered seems fishy i went to hunter nation and it's essentially a subscription website ted runs where there's some dumb content like blogs and stuff but it's mostly just about him making money he also apparently does a show there where he tells a co-host about things he's hunted called the nightly nudge it's dumb oh i guess things have dried up since he doesn't have those tv shows anymore and his music sucks so you got to do what you got to do yeah on

the site also you can buy raffle tickets to go hunting with ted or if you like you can try it win a chance to hunt a bear in idaho great stuff great stuff that's just great one of their past dream hunts was go go shooting with uh uh trump son there's a tell here that ted is obscuring and that's that there's another website called hunt the vote which is where the whole registration drive is hunter nation is uh ted's website where there's a bunch of his dumb bullshit that he sells on it if he were actually focused on the registration stuff as opposed to advertising his own garbage he'd promote the other site and he knows what he's doing right this is this is uh this is about fundraising you know even if it was about promoting voting you know that's still fucked up on the the

night that it's a lie about promoting yourself is fucked up but ted doesn't want to get political i understand that he wants to get profitable yes yeah yeah for sure yep so uh alex is trying desperately to get ted to say that bad shit's coming sure sure yeah and so this this clip is really fun because alex is trying ted doesn't play ball and then alex has to like put his tail between his legs and sulk somebody asked this question i believe this is a real psychopath i believe the shooting happened the question is though it's little weird that we're right outside the midterms 100 days 168 days out 168 days out and magically this is all happening what do you expect in the bag of tricks the deep state has as it comes out that rushing it was fake as we already knew

and all everything else they do blows up gut level as an american as a patriot not just as a top tv host and pro gun guy and rock star but as a father and grandfather gut level ted newgent they know they're losing what do you expect them to pull next well the the pulse on the not so mean streets of america alex which you retain an accurate reading of that pulse and we thank you for that we thank you for speaking up and raising hell that's what the founding fathers wanted all good americans to be like ted newgent alex jones you're not raising hell you might as well go to cuba where you're not allowed to the point being is that i know these people i walk the streets here in texas and i still communicate with my friends in all 50 states alex i got us on the phone today with

steven tyler down there in uh california i'm on the phone with just ranchers and farmers and cops teachers in all 50 states non-stop getting ready for a rock and roll tour and a hunting season where we share campfires both literally and figuratively i believe that there is going to there is an awakening taking place because of the cruelty of our current government the cruelty the dishonesty the violation of their sacred constitutional oath i believe that it's going to be a win-win i'm an eternal optimist and i have great hope that people are waking up and we are going to crush this treasonous wave that is now headed by this freak who can't form a syllable in the white house ted newgent i totally agree with the old short he's got some questions my question is oh man the

red tsunami is the biggest ever i totally agree with you oh it's right the moment you are off this phone call i'm going to claim that there will be non-stop mass shootings from now until the end of the midterms god damn it how dare you say that there is positive things coming oh non-stop shootings from now until the end of the midterms god fucking ted ruining my fucking neighbor oh oh let's go camping shut up ted so here's where shamane ted's wife gets involved in the proceedings gotcha and she apparently hasn't gotten one of the memos that alex has put out shamane it's just just as smart as you are what is her view on thanks hey alex i'm sitting right here i i agree i agree with ted and you know it's it's a shame at what's going on i don't know how anybody thinks

that if we don't change the way that we voted in the past why are things going to be any different so if we can't fix these voting machines i'm i'm i'm scared of what's going to happen no the voting machines were a red herring no no no no no no that the new narrative is that the voting machines were a distraction by the globalist so we did you not let did you not watch dinesh desuza's most recent movie that your husband is promoting i guess so wait is there voting machines in that one who cares no that's mostly about the mules of course um so yeah uh shamane brings up uh hanging out with trump sure and uh that's fun to think about uh but alex is really excited he wants some hot goss you know what when we were with president trump last weekend there are two things that he said to us

alex he said i think it's gonna get pretty dark before it gets better before it gets light and that this had to happen so that people would wake up wow wow so trump said that that's huge yeah yeah he admitted that we we spent some great time with the president he's a great man he's not perfect but compared to the regular politicians he's almost like michael the archangel no i agree we'll spend a few minutes on that let you beautiful people go yeah please tell me more about trump tell me more oh yeah it's it's strange how sycophantic that still kind of is for him even though he's trying to pretend that he's like Jesus you know i've moved on uh yeah he's still very much into that star fucker that's so gross so the new gents take off and uh it's back to

business right oh and has some thoughts about who could and could not own guns in early american history i don't i don't want to live in a war zone i don't want to live in a society where yeah i feel like i have to carry a gun around but we are in a war zone with all these devil warspers and i definitely don't want to be a slave i'll tell you that damn true i'm never going to be a slave and i love how they say oh the second amendment was written that didn't mean everybody could own a gun hmm let's see why don't you finish that statement who couldn't own a gun in 1776 who was a slaves that's who it was slaves couldn't own a gun in 1776 so they just want to make you a slave you're not supposed to care that much about slavery it's not a big thing yeah don't

don't you guys always say that oh no no they wanted it crt yeah exactly right so you should also probably learn a little bit more about history so slaves couldn't own a gun in the early days of america but you know who else couldn't women all non-white people regardless of whether or not they were enslaved like native americans yeah also you'd be really hard-pressed to find women who owned guns although there may not there may not have been a prohibition against it but it just wasn't something that culturally was yeah very acceptable also uh anyone who didn't swear an oath of loyalty to the new country couldn't own guns and uh prior to the founding of the country the colonies of maryland and virginia specifically disarmed catholics and then pennsylvania joined

in on that later yeah the early americans targeted populations that they felt were likely to rebel against them right and then they took their weapons right all right it's remarkable really like alex fetishizes the founding fathers and yet they did exactly the thing he's constantly yelling about the globalists doing and then the globalists never actually do the thing yeah yeah yeah so so what they were realizing right is they didn't like the way king george was oppressing them they overthrew so they overthrew him and then they looked at their own behavior towards other people and they were like oh shit they have a legitimate grievance against us we could do things better or i'll tell you this that king george guy knew what he was talking about so a lot of

that was during like the colonial times a lot of that stuff like disarming catholics and would have you but in 1878 new hampshire made a law that would disarm and imprison any tramp that was quote found carrying any firearm or other dangerous weapon tramps would lose their guns if all they did was quote threatened to do any injury to any person or to the real or personal estate of another shit was tough for tramps back in the 1870s i can't believe that they would be so against tramps yeah anyway the picture of who was and wasn't allowed to be armed in the early history of our country isn't as cut and dry as Owen wants it to be but that makes sense given that i'm sure most of the stuff that he knows comes from memes and listening to alex make things up i mean isn't

he supposed to even be like no slaves could own guns because the second amendment or whatever it is aren't they supposed to believe that all the rights apply equally even if you're a slave because you choose to be a slave or something along those lines i bet they wouldn't want to parse that out yeah um yep yep so uh they go back to calls and this caller has some really good advice but it's also too late yeah first of all i mean i stick to my stomach feel like everybody else and uh i what ted said um you can't talk that so i'm not going to go there um go to hunter nation don't ask people please wait for things as done fold and this you know we know how things change over the next few days so yeah man don't jump to any conclusions alex like you have this entire time

yeah that'd be it's a bad idea to speculate this close with so little information alex alex my advice to you don't do the show you're in the middle of doing alex alex i've been following along with your court cases do you know the things you're doing somewhat pointless yep so anyway uh caller has some i would say fucked up perspectives and alex decides to sign off on that sure hey um i've been listening to show for about two years i really appreciate the work you're doing and um if these satanic lunatics can't kill kill them in the womb then they brainwash them through the media and the schools in the former companies get ahold of them and whack them out of their minds with the drugs and we need to take our kids out of these institutions and make sure

we teach them about jesus because he's coming back very soon well i totally grew that statement on oh boy sure yeah sure so take your kids out of the schools because jesus is coming back soon alex is like hell yeah hell yeah also take your kids out of the schools and also arm teachers yeah i i don't know i don't know what's going on anymore teachers should be armed and you should try and teach your children uh geometry by yourself i guess it kind of makes some sense in as much as like let's arm the teachers but everyone's homeschooled so it's all the parents right right right i guess that's the work around i think a lot of kids are gonna go to prison so owen uh does not accept anybody on the left pretending that they care about the shooting oh sure dumb

that's nice this is something that frustrates me so much about the demonic left they want to sit here in virtue signal and have their crocodile tears anytime they can use a tragedy for their political advantage i i don't want to i don't want to hear about a democrat upset about the children dead in the uvaldi shooting because you celebrate 60 million dead babies aborted in this country you literally go out and celebrate you have specials on tv you do parades you launch confetti you paint your face you celebrate abortion you literally celebrate baby murder and they say kill that bastard it is a baby we're murdering them and they expect me to sit here and have my emotional heartstrings tugged on by the same people that celebrate baby murder oh and they know you

have a conscience they manipulate your conscience hey dick uh don't have an emotional reaction to what other people are saying you should have an emotional reaction to the event itself yeah um yeah it is i don't know why you take any kind of like look i have a lot of thoughts about alex's response to the shooting i have a lot of feelings about that in terms of the way you know we're discussing it on this episode sure that is completely distinct from my actual feelings about the shooting itself yes and my emotional response and processing of it yeah it does not feel from what they are doing and how they're engaging with this that there is much of a difference between their response to the shooting and their response to what liberals are doing i mean he did

just say why are you trying to make me care about this it feels that way a little bit yeah and i won't care because you support abortion yeah you shouldn't you shouldn't be making me care about this and the i mean you know what it is is they can't believe that there is a different way you know like because they politicize they do all this stuff so they can't believe that there's a way not to do that sure because they know that it would be better to not do that yeah they don't believe that anybody isn't as craven exactly yeah and they have to because if you recognize that other people are not as craven as you then you can't really justify your craven behavior yeah so in this next clip the worm turns some information comes to alex's attention and everything everything

is different everything's flipped upside down and again again it's not confirmed that the photos going around the internet of the guy in a skirt is the reported shooter and he to go points out many are posting photos of a young male in women's clothing claiming his evolved in texas mass shooter these images are unconfirmed unverified please stop sharing them because the event they are ramos art ramos you're harming someone who had nothing to do with the shooting and let me just be clear that's being reported but we're not we're not sure that's who it is but let me just be clear here the images that they're talking about are not the images that we've been sharing there's other images out there with a clear trans man waving trans flags and stuff we haven't been sharing

those i believe those are the images he's talking about we've been sharing the images that are on the instagram account that is claimed to be his so but that could be a funny spoofing it right and that's why it was odd so that's weird alex is making this clarification based on andy know posting that this trans individual isn't confirmed to be the shooting after he's already spent pretty much his entire show reporting that the shooter is trans yep and to be clear the picture they've been talking about this whole show is the one that was the four-chan hoax yep you can tell by how preoccupied alex has been about the stockings and skirt the picture that the actual shooter posted to his instagram includes him wearing pants yeah this is alex realizing in real time that

he's done the same thing that he did with the parkland shooting all over again he's taken some dumb shit he saw on fourchan and he's participated in and greatly amplified the defamatory claims that an innocent person is a mass murderer all it takes is a tweet from andy know to get alex to start covering his ass but if you pay attention you'll see that andy posted that tweet at 6 29 p.m over half an hour before alex got on air for this special report i have no idea if what alex did this time is actionable in any way but it's a cold splash of water to the face that brings into sharp focus that alex isn't capable of or unwilling to learn any lessons when it comes to being more responsible in his reporting yeah his priority is pushing his extreme right-wing politics

and he does not give a shit if he hurts people in service of making engaging sensationalized and bigoted content don't forget that within the first minute of being on air alex reported that the shooter was trans based on a picture that he'd come across and sent to his staff which alex specifically said were people in uh like a person in a dress this is not the instagram picture of the actual shooter the whole show's content has been based on a fourchan hoax and it this is just a sad attempt to cover some ass and i think that the way that oan jumps in and is like no no we're talking about the instagram picture yeah that reveals knowledge of what you have done yep that that's that that to me is so so telling of like a uh oh wait we have to come up with an explanation

for why what we did wasn't the thing that andy knows tweet is telling people not to do yep it's pathetic yep it takes andy know to get them to realize what they're doing is fucked up like it's sad but i guess if the message gets across i i know i mean sure whatever yeah that's that's so unreal yep so alex tries to back himself up more with like hey man look it's breaking this is a breaking story what are you gonna do yeah this is a live breaking news event so we're giving you the best information we have at this point we're not sure if uh salve ador is the uh person's account though the news is saying it could be go ahead uh well over the next few days i'm sure we'll get more intel as it as it roll as they roll it out if they see it oh yeah you know and it could be the

vegas shooting all over again so you never know what exactly is oan wanting to know about the los vegas shooting what was that yeah just because he stopped caring about it and hasn't read anything about the story in a few years doesn't mean that everybody else just is pretending it didn't exist except steve pachanik he's definitely pretending it didn't exist or happen at all in august 2018 the los vegas metro police department released a 187 page report covering the investigation into the shooting and if oan's so curious about anything he should go ahead and read that the fbi didn't investigation as well and determined that they couldn't nail down a specific motive which is frustrating but it's not proof of any kind of cover-up we heard in the kit daniel's deposition

about how the audience loses interest in stories that are a few days old and that they have to tailor their coverage to accommodate that in order to chase viewers and keep the supplements selling info wars moved on from caring about that story and what oan is doing here is that he's trying to blame everyone else for their own shallowness and laziness and covering stories yeah like yeah you lost the interest in covering this because it wasn't moving the needle and now you're pretending that they just stopped investigating it or covering it well i mean you what he's what he's admitting is that he does not do any research at all he's only spoon fed what it is he gets sure you know like he doesn't actually go well i mean and i mean totally like they don't go looking

for things it's brought to them you know by fortune they don't go they don't go looking for oh i have a question that i want the answer to i'll go look to find it it's either the answer is already is either brought to them or they don't they don't find it yeah things that are challenging aren't really in the info wars milieu yeah yeah so uh they get another caller and this guy wants to pray and so we have two prayers on this show but i keep this in just as a kind of contrast because i think this is a pretty decent prayer okay let's talk to steve and kansas go ahead steve are you there i sure am brother welcome thank you it's honor to be with you tonight i just wanted to offer a prayer to all those people in uvaldi lord we ask that you cover the families of

these precious children in your grace and give the families the peace to accept what has happened it's it's normal but they're going to be upset but there's nothing we can say to comfort them but the lord can do it and he will we ask this in your name the name of jesus christ our savior and the holy spirit amen amen now you're right there shows more the reason for the second member than ever to have demons like this running around alex's response is shit but the reason that i i kept that in and wanted to play it was because i want to stress that when like people pray on info wars i'm not opposed to praying right i just think that they usually do it in a really fucked up way

right that is generally self-serving and maybe pushing an agenda i think that what this caller is doing is expressing a pain and a wish to express solidarity and a desire for god's grace to help the parents right and i don't think that there's anything wrong with it i think it's a little bit weird for alex's show to present itself as a news show and then for people to be praying all over it sure but whatever it's it's sort of the difference of his style right right but yeah i i just we make fun of a lot of the like and people end up praying on alex's show and it's right because it's kind of fucked up but i just want to be clear that there are instances every now and again it's maybe rare sure uh where somebody comes in with like a prayer that's like

yeah that's that's um that's somber right right right no and i respect that i just know that it proves they don't actually believe in or give a shit about their religion whatsoever well you don't know what this caller is bringing to the table i mean i know what the bible is bringing to the table and he doesn't well you're me i i you're jumping to a conclusion but look here here's the here's the deal i just want to put these injects to position owens prayer this caller's prayer there's a world of difference between them totally and i feel like one of the reasons is because there's an opportunisticness in owen and there's a sincerity of feeling in this caller 100 and that's that that is the difference that that's absolutely that's the relevant difference

no i agree so anyway alex uh now that he's seen andy knows tweet uh the tone of this is entirely different oh boy and who knows of even salvatore ramos is the real shooter who knows if any of this is true who knows if these photos are real who knows if the guy in the skirts real who knows if any of this is real because the media lies so much and we have a right to say we don't believe what we're hearing such a strange shift in tone alex is clearly worried that what he'd been saying this whole show uh the looks bad uh now that it's become clear that he was identifying the wrong person as the shooter all this show has been like we got pictures of the reported shooter and then straight demonizing trans people and now all of a sudden alex doesn't know if anything is real

he's gone from a sensationalist bigot propagandist perpetuating a fourchan hoax to someone so skeptical they can't even prove that the person sitting next to them is real this is pathetic stuff i mean he's he's retreated into a world of like i you have to prove everything it's what he did in the depositions you know he retreated back the moment he got the the moment he had to confront reality and he cannot get away with this he has to not do what he's about to try to do right he immediately backs off and he's like listen i mean i don't know if it's i'm not saying that i know it's the all i'm saying is that there are questions that sometimes the people do that and i don't know if it's this guy or that guy what he might as well be doing is admit a guilt before

we get anywhere we have to try and prove that existence is something that everyone experiences to bake an apple pie from scratch you was first create the universe yeah basically yeah so they take another caller my point there is just that it's glaring yeah the difference in time yeah it's bananas um and there's a reason so they take another call and this guy has a uh a fun idea that's never gonna happen alex i finally get to talk to you finally and for once i want to let you know you oan and harrison need to go on joe rogan's podcast please clip this and send it to him so that he can hear this thousands of people want you guys all three of you on the podcast yes yes no i mean look look look i know people want me on joe rogan's podcast i'm friends

with joe there's a lot of political pressure obviously people want us on joe rogan's podcast against the highest ratings will go on there it would be great that's kind of uh begging the question there but yes i appreciate your call yeah i'm not getting back on that show probably maybe for a long time and uh he has just enough patience for me he does not want my lackeys uh uh oh no no no no no no no i do actually think that this is something that callers and listeners of alex's show should really ask themselves yeah like okay yeah um joe is fine a couple times having alex on and he has a lot of fucked up weirdos come on but weirdly he does not uh invite on people who are like a bunch of alex's uh uh crew yeah his uh his whack pack for a lack of a better term

yep where's dr marbles i don't know he's not going on joe rogan that's for sure no and like uh but like scousin why you get scousin on uh on rogan not gonna rogan that is unlikely rogan's not gonna get any uh roger stone even clout from uh having roger stone on his podcast yeah although i think that would be interesting that would be interesting that would actually probably be the first time i'd listen to a rogan episode of all of the people in alex's orbit that like you know obviously rogan is probably not real interested in talking to right right um that is the one there is at least like really famous yeah it would make sense i think michael indell could go on there no yeah yeah yeah what if rogan needs a little a little spending money that hundred million goes away real quick

you know you don't know what you're spending i don't know if it goes away that quick i don't know i mean like look i don't have a hundred million dollars and michael indell couldn't pay to get on this part so that's fair that is fair yeah so i mean like alex is being you know he's talking about like this idea of of like you know dancing around the i'm not going to be on rogan right right and that's kind of why you see him on these other podcasts is because he doesn't have access to the top tier and that's why you don't see harrison on any podcasts no he fucking sucks when you see video uh that harrison made being pushed on tucker carlson uh you have to pretend that it's not from an info wars yeah yeah it's from a completely different stuff right never heard

so um alex you know he always talks about having the globalists playbook uh in a way that is like i know what they're gonna do sure he talks a little bit more about this and i honestly think that the way he's describing this here is meaningless if they don't have totally controlled rigged elections coming up for the midterms they're gonna have to do something to either curtail people from voting or to just not even have an election i mean we're in crazy see the globalists are predictable in that we know they have these plans up their sleeves how they're gonna decide what they want to exactly they have the cards in their hand we know the plays they can make like even if you stole like the patriots are known to do you the other sides playbook you

don't know when they're gonna play a play yeah so we have the playbook we just don't know what play they're gonna play that means nothing we have nothing we have okay so when i watch let's say we were playing a football game right and i'm the coach i'm watching tape on a 45 minute football game or whatever it is right uh so i know all the other teams plays yeah right because i've watched them play them over and over and over again so naturally that means that i know exactly what they're going to do and we will win the game every time right no well but i mean like obviously the the advantage that you have of knowing a team's plays is like the way they lie knowing their place yeah the way they line up will give you some indication of what the play

might be tendencies those types of things yes alex engages with a globalist like that but he's wrong every fucking time right well i mean it's like if alex was the coach of uh the bangles and i was the coach of the patriots and i had the bangles playbook and alex had the playbook for like uh i don't know the cincinati reds you know sure wrong sport right you know it's trouble right he's gonna be he's gonna show the reds the play is catch the ball yes yeah yeah yeah he's he's like why wait wait wait how do i throw a curveball now the the thing that he's describing is essentially like if i were to boil this down into like more realistic language it's i've come up with a bunch of stuff that i constantly say the globalists are going to do and i don't know when they're

gonna do these things or if they're gonna do them but uh hey uh these are all the things that i have decided my enemies are capable of yeah it's meaningless it's just it's stupid no he might as well have a whiteboard and just write down random thoughts that he has of things that might be bad and then just write him up there and then if he doesn't like it he'll erase one and be like these are all the things the globalist yeah this is now the playbook yep amended yep so i have bad news oh no it's the summer of rage there's already it's the liberal summer of rage okay so the liberal of summer of rage is upon us they do this every election cycle 2020 we saw them burn half of america down to the ground and the the two dozen dead and everything that trailed the democrat summer of rage

so if you count midterms every other summer is the summer of rage every other summer is a summer of rage and it's always and only the liberals doing and so the other summers are the summers of they're off rage yeah yeah the summers of it's like el niña you know it's like it's that kind of thing yeah the in between there's the summer of rage when the election year right and on the off uh year it's the the the summer of reflection and taking stock of what happened during the rage right right right right right this is dumb yeah immediately followed by the fall of malaise yeah so we have one last clip here and um i mean if i were to put a button on this whole show it's been meaningless yeah um but yeah here alex explains why he uh did the the show oh and great job i want to say

great job of the crew we got to all those calls thank you ventura we took like 20 calls we had ten nudes you know and didn't take 20 came in because those dead children are important and people trying to capitalize on their murder are bad people so we had to come in because we knew biden would show up tonight to capitalize all the shows would show up and if we as conservatives we as christians we as populist we as pro humans don't show up when the enemy shows up we've given them the field but to the crew that already worked 18 hours you showed up mr wolf over here been here since this morning run in the boom you showed up hair wolf everybody showed up oh and showed up and we'll show up thanks to your backing tomorrow 8 a.m central

with american journal harris the smith alex jones 11 a.m oh and shroyer 3 p.m we will be here as long as you back us and support us amazing products and info or store dot com today's the last day to get x2 the deep earth crystal iodine the global is trying to keep from you it's just such a game changer look into it it's 40 off with ultra 12 25 percent off by itself thank god no one's down there on alex isn't trying to profit off uh those are bad people people who are trying to be opportunistic and profit off of this kind of thing yep you know bad people yeah conservatives and christians really love showing up after all those children are murdered to go try and make sure other children get murdered later and tenugin wasn't trying to you know direct people to his

subscription website oh no no or anything people who profit off of this type of thing are bad people dan mhm mhm message received you got it you know exactly what you're doing so this obviously is is difficult material um perhaps alex's stuff isn't as as like viscerally grotesque as it probably could be yeah in the immediate but i think some of that is probably just because he knows that he could get in trouble yeah if i were to put a button on this episode it would be 300 000 pounds and i would drop it from 10 000 feet above the four studio that's what i would do is a super reinforced structure you're never gonna damn it um so the the um the the obviously the main thing and the main point is this is a tragedy and uh you know obviously um whatever condolences are

appropriate and you know very sincerely and heartfelt go out to the families affected and the community of uvaldi as a whole um i think that there is a real challenge in terms of talking about this through the lens of alex jones or at least our next episode will be much more difficult yeah because of the conflicting and contradictory statements that have come out and the the the malleability of uh what's been uh uh put out by the police right the cops have lied so much that were fucked that's that's a blunt way to put it yeah um and i don't fully feel sitting here now recording this episode that we have a concrete answer oh no a lot of stuff i think i think investigations are probably necessary to get to a concrete answer and so that will be more challenging

than say alex's uh demonizing of trans people and misidentifying this person right is a lot more easy to say this is what happened yeah um and so i i think that there will be a challenge and uh we'll we'll have to cross that bridge yeah um but yeah anyway i hope everyone out there is doing doing all right yeah we're yeah we hope that things are you know it's there's a little bit of distance uh but it's still so fucking fucked yeah so fucked and the moment you investigate cop lies you just find more cop lies you know like every time they every time that you started like oh this this was a little bit this timeline doesn't make sense they're like well there's a different timeline and they're like well that one can't make sense and save it for next

time these thoughts are relevant for next time yep um so we'll be back but until then we have a website we do have a website dan it's knowledge fight dot com and hunter nation dot org no no we'll be back but also we have a twitter yes it's an allergenist go fight and i go to bed jordan yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i hope you all have a dreamy creamy summer and now here comes the sex robots andy and chan's us you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you