KSR - 2024-04-25- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk UK Basketball recruiting, NIL, and guess which letter of the alphabet Ryan is thinking.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I drove up this morning from Louisville, so I'm awake and ready to go with Ryan Lemon, Drew Franklin. You can give a shout of Clark's pumping shop phone line. Hello to Clark and their pumping shop. 859-2-80-2287. Going to be there tomorrow. Tomorrow. That's right.

Which one? Sandersville Road. Sandersville Road. So we'll be out there next to Ryan's house. You said you could walk. I am going to walk through the show tomorrow. 859-2-8027. The text machine is A-Vision Glass.

772-745254. In this edition, sponsored by a T. T.J. Smith, Law. He'll make them pay. We are at Clark's Pumpin Shop. We'll have Mark Popon. So get there so you can hear it. And it should be a lot of fun.

A lot of Clarkin and a lot of pumping going on tomorrow. And Pope. So Pope's going to come on. He's going to do one segment. And then he's going to come on in a couple weeks before I go to Europe and do a longer sit-down with us. Where we can, like, you know, get to know him and start to really become good friends. That's the hope. But tomorrow is to just give us a check-in and a hello, Drew.

Yeah, we don't know where he'll be. He's so busy these days. He'll just call in wherever he's working. I hope he's slept. I worry about him these days. It's an unhealthy lifestyle he's in right now as he's trying to build for the future. He has four of his five staff members. They all have gotten announced officially.

Alvin Brooks got announced officially. Mark Fox got announced officially. So it's all official, all taken care of. We needed more marks and Brooks's. I'm glad we have probably those. Jack listed that in a post yesterday. It's going to get very confusing with all coach Brooks, coach Mark.

There's a lot of them. All right, so a couple things here to start. First of all, we lost the KSR parlay by a half a steel. All right, we had, it was a great pick by Drew. Okay, we had, he had Shea over 28 and a half points, easy. Bam, over 29 and a half points, rebounds assist added up, easy. Tyler Hero, two and a half, three is easy. He had six.

He had six, heat won. Cason Wallace needed one steal. One steal. And the NBA apparently credited him a steal, and then took it away after the mid game. Midgame it was in the box. So here's my question. Did they know that KSR would have bankrupted all the sports books

if they counted that steel? Is that what happened? I have the game recorded. As soon as I get home, I'm going and watching the tape, and I might file a complaint with the league. This is the league. This is the league.

Shannon, the league must have known we were about to make the whole state money and then they just took away Case and Wallace's steel. I don't think that's fair. I think that's exactly what happened. We need to go back. And as Drew said, need to see the play at question.

Was it like two people? I want to see the play too. Was it a steal or not? It clearly was. Why would they give them a steal and then take it away? And see, that's where you can get shady because like a basket, it either goes in or it doesn't, but steals a judgment call. That was a long shot parlay, and we hit three out of four and just half of a steel.

Half of a steal. I told you when you walked in, I knew you guys were going to hit it because I forgot to bet it. That's when I knew you guys were going to, it was going to hit. So, unfortunately, then. the Reds. Yeah, I bet you're going to talk about the Reds. All right. So, Ellie Dayla Cruz is officially the best player.

I think some people are calling him the Mickey Mantle. They are. Of today. I mean, you may not have heard that a lot. No, I've heard that. Unbelievable. Yeah. He got a little, he got a walk.

He scored a run just out of sheer will. He got a walk, stole second, stole third, Sacrifice fly scores. Nobody else does that in the history of baseball. That's why I made my living in baseball. What do you mean? Are you trying to compare yourself to L.A. Dale? I think we have a lot of similarities.

Slow down. First of all, do you mean you made your living? You would walk, steal second, steal third. And then scoring a ground ball or a sack fly. When you say you made your living, how many times do you think you did that in the course of your career? Oh, I did it a lot. That's the only way I got to play. That's the only reason I got to play.

So how were you weren't that? I mean, L.E's six, four. Well, I'm 5'4. We have that in common. Yeah. We have the four. Just a digit off. Be better if you had the six.

They both have great hair. He does have great hair. He does have good hair. And then I just, and then Santiago Espinald again. Again, he got the game, he got the hit that tied the game last night. He has raised it since I said he was the worst player in baseball history. Shannon, he's raised his batting average, 100 points. putting down money on draft kings for him to be the NLNVP right now.

He was hitting 118 and now he's hitting 218 and it's literally right after I said he was the worst player I've ever seen. So we're going to the All-Star game when he's there. It's in Dallas. It's at the same time as media days. We're getting you in your Santiago, Espinall jersey and with your bobblehead and we're making an event. Santiago. Well, I mean, now I need to get some other people going.

Yes, just rag on somebody else now for a couple days. I'll rag on somebody else. But so I'm, I wasn't out, but I'm back in. But I will say this. Right. This is my Draft King's lock of the year. Okay. All right.

Or at least lock of the month. Because I think your soccer bet was the lock of the year. That one didn't hit. Isn't it a maybe lock? Huh? Isn't it a maybe lock? This maybe, yeah. I mean, it's not really a lot because don't sue me, but it's like kind of a lock.

The Reds are going to lose today. Oh. Yeah. They've got. I think Nick Martinez, who's terrible, pitching for us, and then they've got the Wheeler guy, and we're going to have a bad lineup. I'm just telling you. Like, if you want to, you should go ahead and put it.

I love my Reds, but I know when they're going to lose, and today is one of those. They play at 1 o'clock. At home? At home. Are you going to try to get up there? No, which brings me to part two. Okay. I want to give my tickets away to somebody on the air.

Oh, okay. So how are we going to do it? The question is, normally I try to do a couple of, contest rarely works well. That's what makes the context. Contest fun. I think we should do a contest, but now here's the thing. You have to be able to go at one o'clock. True. So you're like, you're going to, there's only so many people that can be in this, which is can you go to the game and can you go at one o'clock? So here's what I want to do. We're going to play a game called, what letter is Ryan thinking? Oh, boy. Okay.

Okay. Ryan, I want you to think of a letter. All right. You got it in your head? Got it. You'll whisper it to me during the break. Okay. 859-28027.

Whoever guesses the closest letter to the one that's in your head. Okay. We'll win the tickets. I don't want you to call unless you can go to the game. Don't call me and then win and go, I talked to my wife and now I can't go. That drives me insane. When I give these tickets away and people win and then go, I'm sorry, I can't get over. Like, don't play.

unless you can win. If you can win, call in right now, and whoever can guess the closest letter, and if one of the people guesses it exactly, they win a meeting. So 8-5-9-2-80-22-87. Open up the line, Shannon. Okay. We'll do it to start the second second. It's the guess.

I like when people try to guess what's in your head because it's essentially empty. And so whatever they're able to find is perfect. I did have another dream last night. There we go. But this one, Lloyd, I don't need your interpretation. I screamed out loud so loud the middle of the night last night. Are you taking things? No, I don't know what's going on.

I need cornbread hemp. Some more cornbread hemp. Okay. So what happened? Like in my dream, I got scared and I screamed so loud. It was like some people came around the corner and scared me. And I screamed so loud. It did.

But my dogs were in the room. They woke all, they woke them all up. So what do you mean people came around the corner? What does that mean? Like if you're in a house and you turn to the corner. corner is. And then some people just popped out like they were coming after me. And you got scared and you screamed.

I screamed like as loud as I can scream. That's two nights in a row. I've had some crazy dream. We need a ride. Are you in the day? Are you in a bed in the dream? No, I'm in a house. It's not even my house.

These are important details. So you're in a house that's not your house. Yes, and it's dark. And strangers come around the corner. And I see the shadows come first and then they come around the corner. They're coming at me. And I screamed. How do you see shadows if it's dark?

Well, maybe moonlight coming through the window. It's like shadow people. Yeah, shadow people. Yeah. And then you literally scream. As loud as I could scream. Yeah. Woke myself up, woke my dogs up. I should have.

I need to ask your sigh if he heard it last night. This is like starting to become trouble. I'm a little worried myself. We need to hear from the doctor again. All right. Well, if you have the interpretation of Ryan's people around the corner screaming. Yeah. Maybe I would guess, does that mean bad news is coming?

Maybe. Yeah. You're scared of like the unknown. coming around the corner. I didn't know who these people were. There were two of them. Or you're about to get abducted. Well, that one's not true.

So Kentucky gets their coaches. They have not yet gotten another basketball player, but they continue to get sort of put with people. Yeah. There was no real news yesterday of any substance coming, except a lot of people think this St. Mary's kid is going to end up here. But otherwise, it's still kind of, Just floating around, Drew, I would say, now the question is, you know, when are they going to build their roster?

Are you, let me put, let me ask you a question. Are you nervous? No, I'm pumped. Are you nervous about the roster this year? I'm not nervous about the roster long term at all. Now that they've got Hart and Brooks, I think we're going to have the rosters we want going forward. But are you nervous about this year? Not on April 25th.

I mean, Brooks just got here. Hart's only been here a few days. Pope's only been here 10 days. I mean, I wouldn't expect them to have a roster right now. So I'm not worried at all. I'm excited. I still feel good about great. I'm trusting scoop there.

I want the two Brits a lot. I already got to Mario Williams. I want great ossebor. And I just feel like they've cast such a wide net and there's so many names. Somebody will pull the trigger to be Kentucky's point guard. Well, they'll certainly have a team. I mean, I'm not worried about them not having a team.

I think one of these good names we'd Please, are you worried at all? Not really. I mean, they're going to be, we're going to be an old team instead of the one and done freshman. We're going to have one and done fifth year players. But are you worried about getting good play? No, I think, like Drew said, there's still a lot of time.

We didn't get Trey Williams. Didn't even know about Antonio Reese until June. So give it a little time. We never got Trey Williams. Trey Mitchell Williams. I like how you still insist that that's what, even though no one else called him that. I will say a week and a half. We can revisit this.

I'll be a little more. I just think it's so immediate. The Wednesday after. Derby, like, would you start getting worried then? If there hasn't been many additions. I just think right now it's a little too immediate to be having high expectations for him to put guys in front of them. I'm not nervous. These guys are playing the game.

They might have a firm yes and say, yes, go do your visits. We understand that's part of the business now. So they could even have people locked down that we don't know about. I agree. I'm not nervous. But there is every day I get more what I would call big blue anxiety from people. say to me, are we going to have a team? So I'm not, and I think some of it is, again, I feel like I quote her a lot, but

Ali Tucker, I thought, actually put it really well. She said, I'm not saying I'm nervous about the roster, but I'm not saying I'm not nervous. And I actually thought that was a good way to put it, because I feel like, Ryan, that's how a lot of people feel. Yeah. And you've hinted a couple of times. You think there's some dudes that haven't even put their name in the portal yet that

Kentucky's in good position with. Is that still, you still feel that way? Well, first of all, I still think Jackson Robinson is, I mean, I'm not an NBA draft guru, but I don't think he's, do you think he's going in the first round of the draft? Everything I've read wouldn't suggest that. So if he doesn't go in the first round of the draft, yeah, I think he's going to be here. And he could be a best player next year. He could.

And then I think there's, I've continued to be told for a week and a half that there's a person who's not in the portal that when they will, will likely be here. And then there's there, I'm told there could be an Alvin Brooks person. Now, I don't know if that person is from Baylor or if that person might be somewhere else. I'm not sure. But so, no, I'm not worried. I know they'll get players. And I know Mark Pope will coach them to the best of their abilities. I feel like we need two studs.

I just want to make sure, Drew, there's two studs. If you've seen the new name in the portal, UNC Williamton, Wilmington's trend I can't talk trezarian white that scored 27 points in Rupparina so would you want him the guy he averages 27 points a game in Rupp arena I think that has to be a record I think we take you you say you lit us up you beat us that's right we're taking you 6 7 forward already been there I would love to have him I don't forget all about that game I actually actually agree I mean we did Patrick Sparks did that yes that's right Patrick Sparks came in here and beat us and then we we took him I think that would be good to do 859-28027

We're going to see who can guess Ryan Lemon's letter. You're going to tell me what the letter is during the break. Yeah. Okay. And then we will see who can guess it to get the Reds tickets. And we'll go into more. We are here at KS. Bar and Grill. Come on out and have lunch.

It is my trivia night. We'll talk more about that, too. It's Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio. I would like you to go to the text machine. Send me a text. I'll watch them come in.

772-7-4-5-25-4. What's your guess? What letter is Ryan's? We'll see who gets it right? the text machine. 772-744. My early leader, my Kentucky-branded text the day,

is one number says, my guess is Ryan's letter is six. That's pretty good. How many options? Kentucky branded.com for your UK gear and KSR gear. How many options do they have to choose from, Ryan? Yeah, how many letters in the alphabet? 26.

We go. Well done. So if you have a guess, come on in. Shannon, before you, I know I'm the only one that knows what he has. Okay. What's your guess?

It's going to be something completely random. It's not going to be A, it's not going to be Z. Like somewhere in the middle. I'm just going to go L. L, okay. What's your guess? It's like Ryan's the type that'll just use his first initial. I'll go R.

Okay. What about you, Mario? Big C. Okay. So we have a C, an L, and an R. 859, 280, 2287. We got folks on the phone. Shannon, who's first?

Ernest. Ernest. Where do you live, Ernest? Ernest? Curtis? Curtis? I thought you said Ernest. Close.

That's very close to Curtis. Curtis, where do you live? Versailles. And you can go to the game today? Yes. Okay, what's your guess? P. Oh, my goodness.

First of all, we were supposed to take all the guesses. He did get the first guy. Well, he won. It was P, Curtis. Way to ruin the game, right? What he guessed. He got it right. I know, but we were at least going to take everyone's guesses and then tell them who was correct.

But it's like, the other people didn't even get their voice on the air. It's too bad. They already lost. Curtis got it. Ryan just says it's Curtis immediately. Well, Curtis, it was P. I have to pee really bad right now, so I thought P is the perfect. That is why did you guys?

We should have guessed that, right? So Curtis, congratulations. Everyone else, sorry. Ryan ruined the game within seconds. Curtis, you are in for sale so you can go to the game? Yes. All right. I tell you what, hang on, give Shannon your email, and I will send you the tickets, all right?

Awesome. You know the game's at 1 o'clock, right, Curtis? Yes, I do. Okay, all right, just give Shannon your email. Hang on just a second. So everybody else hang up, Ryan, into the game. Drew. It's over.

He won. He sank the pot and 37 minutes of radio left. Right. Ryan was so shocked. He said the letter, and then it was just over. The first caller, really, it kind of blew me away. Like, wow. All right, so there you go.

Congratulations to Curtis. He wins the tickets, and now the guesses are still coming for people on delay, although I guess people will know P at this point. Well, when you came up with guess a letter. I thought we'd at least get six guesses. I actually had a thought in my head. I thought, this contest is simple enough. We might have one that works, because we never have a contest that works.

It kind of works. It kind of works. It just right. mind's mind was blown so much that it didn't. So, 859-280-22-87, are you nervous about where Kentucky is at this moment? I'll give you my second thing I wanted to say today. All right. The Utah got a hockey team.

Did you know that? NHL hockey team? Yes, the Arizona Coyotes. That was the team that was playing like in a YMCA. Yes. They have moved to Utah. So they have picked eight names, and they're going to have. have a bracket for their nickname.

Okay. First of all, I love the idea of having a bracket. You know this. And the fans will get to vote. Here are there eight choices. Okay. Which one would you want if you were in Utah? Are you ready?

Are we going to play the whole bracket or we're just going to pick? No, we just pick the one you would pick. No sounds until I read them all. Okay. The Utah Blizzard. The Utah Venom. The Utah Fury. Utah hockey club

Utah ice Utah Yettees Utah Outlaw and the Utah Mammoth Which one do you like, Ryan? I kind of like the rhyming of Utah Outlaw The Utah Outlaws

I kind of like how that rolled off your tongue You like Utah Outlaw? The Utah Outlaw It's the least creative of all of But it kind of sounds good Okay, what about you? I hated most of them. They just feel like they were a random mascot generator. So I narrowed it down to Utah Ice and the, was it Yeties?

Was that one of them? I think I'll lean ice. I'll go Utah Ice. Utah Ice, all right, because it's a hockey team. Yes. What about you, Shia? I'm going to Utah Blizzard. When you score, you could have like fake snow falling from the ceiling.

You could team up with Dairy Queen, like the first thousand people get a free Blizzard. Or if they score X amount of goals, I'm going to Blizzard. I'm thinking to have it totally from a marketing. You got to pick up. pick Yeties, right? You can have the, you got the mascot, all the kids would wear it, you get the shirts. Sponsorship with Yeti. Yeah, coolies. You've got the, like, to me, Utah Yeties, and then second, I would go mammoth, because it's singular, right?

There are not very many mascots that are not plural. That's a trivia question I've used before. What mascots are not plural? And the jazz are one of them. Utah could kind of be known as the one that doesn't have plural. And ice could do that as well. You could do it with Mammoth or ice. The other ones, they seem just a little corny. I actually think Outlaws is the worst one. Absolutely. I just like the way it rolled off your time.

Utah Outlaw. Was there a Fury? There's a Fury. Do they have Fury in Utah? Am I missing something there? What's the connection? There's already a team named the Fury, isn't there? Is it a WMBA team?

There might be a WMBA team. I don't know. And there's the Ice, the Indianapolis Ice Hockey Team in Indianapolis. Yeah, nobody cares about that. Who's up? 859-280-2280. seven chatted who's up first cam cam cam go ahead cam what's going on guys you got to go yeties right i'm with drew or uh yeah i'm with drew on that i was mad that was mad you too about the utah church of the latter

day skates i like that i think that's a really good answer that somebody said that's a good one i actually like that one i like that uh i am a little uh worried about the roster um i do have faith and hope in the Pope that he will fill out a solid roster to compete this fall. Is what makes you worried like any particular reason or is it just antsiness overall because we have very few players? A little bit of both, but specifically because we're not getting as much specificity with the players like we were in the past. Well, let me tell you, I think part of why that is. Okay. And this will probably change over the next couple weeks. I think I mentioned this the other day. The local reporters

who will care about this the most because you're covering the team on a day-in-day-out basis, most of us don't know these guys at all, right? I don't know that any local reporter has any relationship with Jason Hart or with Alvin Brooks or with Corey Feger. And so I don't know that anybody has talked to any of them. I know Mark Fox, but I haven't talked to him in 10 years. You know Mark Pope, but haven't talked to him in 20 years probably. So part of it is over time you get relationships with the staff and you start to learn what's going on. And I think part of it, Cam, is that nobody has those yet. And so that's in part why you haven't heard stuff.

That makes sense. That's a fair point. So I appreciate the call. I do think that's important for people to realize at this moment, everything that's coming out is coming out from the players end. Because just nobody, I don't think anyone knows the UK guys yet. And the people who are putting stuff out are people who knew these guys from their other job. That's why the national people, I think, are getting it a lot at this point. That will change over time.

It will eventually. But that's kind of how it is right now. We'll take a break. Be right back. It's KSR. Welcome back. Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287.

Text machine 7-7-7-4. I'm doing trivia tonight. Get your team out here. only one more qualifier after this one. You need to go. I would go ahead, make a reservation. We might have a couple walk-ups. We're going to leave the patio as like a see what maybe walk-up thing in case it gets a little chilly.

So people could. But either way, if you want to come, it should be good. We're going to have the draft on. I'm going to be both watching the draft, watching my canes, and trying to read the questions all at the same time. Busy night for you. Yes. And watching your sleeper pick. Yes.

Watching my sleeper pick. I'm on ESPN radio tonight from whenever the draft ends until 2 a.m. Oh, my goodness. Late night for you tonight. Yes, I'm ready for it, though. Quaid McKinney. Brock Bowers. You already got, you know, you're halfway there.

Joe Alt. I learned him yesterday. Don't know him. Offensive line from Notre Day. Tighten up. And it's McKinneystry. Joe Alt. So I'm good.

Two and a half hours worth of content already ready. One person writes, Matt, I'm enjoying seeing old school Matt Jones on Twitter firing at Louisville fans. Do you think you have your mojo back now that cows gone? No, it's just, first of all, they were pitiful for years. Like you couldn't, how could you make fun? They won four games, right? But secondly, they need to stop chirping. You know, for somebody who hadn't won anything in decades, they're getting a little chirpy.

They won four games two years ago, what, eight games last year. Doubled it. And then on your 10 and two football season, oh, yeah, we beat you, right? On your field. So, like, I'll take a little trash talking from Yukon fans. I'll even take a little trash talking from Arkansas fans because they've got the coach and I get it. But Louisville fans have no business saying anything. You're not even part of the conversation.

Like I had a dude say to me today, oh, our coach is a lot cooler than yours. First of all, what does that even mean? And secondly, no, he's not. We both have dorks. Let's just be real. We're both being coached by dorks. You're trying to tell me Pat Kelsey is cool.

And one dork played in the NBA. Did Pat Kelsey play in the NBA? I don't think he did. I don't think he did. So we both have dorks. The days of us having slick back coaches and suits, that's gone. We both are coached by dorks, but you know what I feel. Dorks are taking over the world, Drew, so I'm fine with it.

And when we compare our dorks, we have the taller dork. We have a taller dork. Your dork looks like a chess piece. Ours is seven feet tall. Your dork looks like the kid from the Christmas story. Our dork can overpower. I am not listening to them, but they seem to be dead for a while. I honestly were forgetting that Louisville fans had the internet.

So I am glad they have a little bit of excitement going on. I'm glad they do too. You got a long way to punch up. They're like, you're going to pay a million and a half dollars for a 16-year-old. Okay, good luck, man. I hope it works out for you. But my view, until you win your 10th game for the first time in three seasons, just pipe down.

When you win your 10th game, feel free to say something. It'll probably be mid-February, but go ahead and talk then. But I just, I don't get the yapping right now. I don't get it either, but it's good to see that mat back. chap chirping back at him. Now, do you believe the story? So Drew Deiner was on Twitter spaces last night, I guess. And, you know, they lost like five recruits, one of which may come here.

Visiting here, yeah. And the spin now that Deiner was saying is that Jeff Brom found out that three of the guys made a video throwing L's down in the locker room and kicked them off the team. Do you believe that? Not really. First of all, it's hilarious. I hope it's true. If guys on the team are making L's down in the locker room. I want to believe it.

Like that's, that says something about how you might need to tighten the reins a little bit. But secondly, do you believe that they would kick people off the team for a hand signal? You know how I feel about stuff like this, especially coming from a guy like Drew that's been in the business a long time? Very close with Jeff Robb. Like, they are certainly friends.

So I lean toward there's a little truth in there somewhere. It may not be all completely true, but there's nuggets of truth in that. He was saying that to almost make Jeff Brom look better. But if you can't keep your own players from doing L's down, isn't that a little... Yeah, it's not even like they're promoting another team or they have a foot out the door. They're in your locker room making fun of your own program. They're only there for the money.

They don't even care. Yes, I'm sure that's true, but that's on you to create a program where it's like that, right? If I'm Jeff Brum and if that is true, they did that in my... locker room I'm kicking them off okay but isn't it a bad sign if they're doing it I think it's absolutely bad that's why you got to get rid of them yeah that's a bad sign who's up next Joseph Joseph Joseph how are you Joseph hey man do you think we get Jackson Robinson and a great Osabor and a Javon small everything's gone quiet so far okay did Joseph did you listen to the first segment no I did not okay do you know what

letter Ryan's thinking of right now. Yeah, guess what letter Ryan's thinking of, Joseph? Yes. Not too far on. Pretty close. We talked about those in the first segment. Jackson Robinson, I think if he goes, if he doesn't go to the draft, we'll come here. I have no idea if he's going to go to the draft, and I think we will get great Osabor. I certainly hope so. I appreciate the call. When Ryan gave his scoop, they were going to get him, and I think they thought, it was imminent. But then I think maybe he realized the market, why not play the market a little bit? I still think in the end they will get what needs to occur to make that happen.

And that's the case with a lot of these guys. They're playing a game on their own with these visits and in the portal. And if they got to do a little wink-wink to Pope and say, I'm going to take a few trips, but he knows they're good, whatever. Go do what you got to do. Just come here in the end. I think that's right. I think they feel good about it.

getting him here. I think what's fascinating is, okay, so these kids are having, the way NIL works right now is like the Wild West. Yeah. No, I mean it. Like, it's like capitalism in 1905. Like, go read books about what occurred in America right around the turn of the century, right? Where we all went to one monetary system and, like, the world became a little, America

became interconnected, everybody wasn't, go read about what it was like. prior to the depression. And if you read about it, it was just wild, right? I kind of think that's what's happening with NIL. Let me give you an example. All right, I'm not talking about great ossibor. Let's just say Mario's a player. All right, I'm recruiting.

And Mario is like, I want to come to your school, but it's going to take $200,000. You go, are you worth $2,000? Or $200,000? Well, first of all, it's hard to know because you don't know what everybody's making in the rest of the country. It's not like baseball, the NBA.

or whatever where every salary is released. So first of all, it's not enough to use an economic term. It's not an efficient market because you don't know what everybody else is making. And you don't know what every other school is paying. So if Mario says he's worth $200,000, I really don't have anything to compare it with. Then he can come up to me and say, Baylor is offering me $300,000. Well, how do I know he's telling the truth? Right.

I don't know if he's telling the truth or not. Maybe he's being offered $300,000, but maybe they're offering him $100,000. Who knows? So I'm going to have to impart guess whether or not Mario is he bluffing me. And then if you get it wrong and Baylor was offering $300,000, then he goes. If you get it wrong and they weren't, you just bid against yourself. And the problem is there is no way to know. So these coaches, and this is at every school, they're flying blind.

So a perfect example is this Jaden Quentin's kid. There's reports Louisville's offering 1.5, Memphis's offering. There's no way to know. And so if you're Memphis or you're Louisville or your Kentucky and you're trying to figure out, you have no idea what you're competing against unless you just trust what they tell you. And Drew, they have an incentive to lie because they want you to give more money. So it really is like wild capitalism with no restrictions. Yep.

That's why, like you would in business, if you're going after a guy, you need to think of a value you'll pay for him. And whether he's making it up or not, if you've got him at $500,000 and he wants a million, you might just have to say, you know, we don't see it that way. But it's hard to create that value because you don't know what the open market is. Like if I'm selling soda, I am part to decide my price based on whatever, Everyone else is where everyone else is selling soda.

But if I don't know what the cost is anywhere, how do I even know what to sell soda for? The whole premises of the market is understanding competition. But everything is secret right now. And so, Ryan, there's no way to know what people are doing. So what can be done to? Well, there's a lot of things, but it's all going to have to be Congress. The NCAA can't do anything.

People keep saying the NCAA's got to fix this. There's not one thing I think the NCAA can legally do. Not one. It's going to have to be Congress. So Congress could say every college will have to release the money. You think that's coming? I don't know. I mean, I think Congress will pass a bill,

but then there's all this stuff. Should I have to release what a private company pays me? Should I have to do that? I mean, you don't release to the public what you make, Brian. Should the players? I don't know. You know? So I think it's a,

I think what's really hard for coaches when you're talking about amount of money is I just don't know how you know what someone's worth. Yeah. How can you know? Because you don't know what someone else would pay for. Each individual coach has to decide in their own mind what this kid is worth his program. And if you price them wrong, you either, A, lose them. or B, overpay them.

Yep. And I think that makes it really, really difficult, to be quite honest. 859-280-2287. We'll take a break and be right back. It's KSR. Welcome back, Tegi Sports Radio, here at KS Bar and Grill. Trivia here tonight. Lunch here in about 10 minutes.

Cornbreadhimp.com, if you need to sleep and relax, cornbread hemp, I think you need to start taking cornbread hemp with your dreams there, Ryan. Last night scared me. Okay, so take cornbread hemp. I'm going to. It relaxes you. You full spectrum flour only hemp CBD. Have you taken it yet, Mario?

You don't, yeah, you don't need it. You got your own stuff that we can't advertise on the radio. Cornbreadthimp.com, the promo code is KSR. You go to cornbread hemp 30% off with the promo code KSR. I'm trying not to be too nerdy because people are asking these questions about NIL. And I don't want to be like too nerdy in answering them and use like legal and economic jargon. But I also think it's the real world. Yes.

Right. So one person writes, Matt, why don't they just put a cap on NIL? You cannot put a cap on wages unless one of two things occurs. Either Congress says you can put a cap, but they almost, I don't know, there are very few jobs they've done that on. There have been some suggestions to do it for corporate CEOs, but they haven't even done that yet.

So either Congress does it, or you collectively bargain with players, which means they have to be employees, and that's a whole other thing. So I actually think Ryan putting a cap on it is almost impossible. I've seen the argument. People want to make athletes employees of the university. But then there's a lot of stuff with that because then all the federal laws about employees apply to you at that point. Eventually, if you were to say Matt Jones, what needs to happen? That's probably what needs to happen.

Because then you could collectively bargain. You could put these rules into place. and it's probably the best system for everybody. But I just think we're probably a few years away from that. A couple of years, the Wild Wild West. It's the Wild West. No, I'm being serious. Now, I don't think the money is as much as people think,

but there are no rules. And the problem is there are no rules you can put in. And as I said, it's an completely inefficient market because there are no, you know, people always complain about regulation. Well, man, there's too many regulations. Well, part of the reason you have regulations is so the market can be efficient. With no regulation, with no release of what people are offered, you have no way of knowing.

So there's going to be dudes this year playing basketball who stink, who are making much more than players who are good just because nobody knew what everyone was worth. Yeah. And I think something to watch right now, too, as these guys are getting as much, much as you can. Say Mario owes at UCLA and he wants to transfer, but UCLA still owes him a lot of money. Maro's going to hang around a little bit until he gets, because if he does transfer, he won't see that money. So if he's owed anyone at a school, he's going to stay until that check shows up and hop in the portal the next day. That's another thing. You are not allowed under NCAA

rules to sign a contract. So Mario is not allowed to sign a contract to come play at, you come. which means he has to trust Yukon that they'll pay. And if they don't, there's nothing he can do about it. You see what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. So that's another part of the Wild West. You know, in capitalism, we have contracts that courts can go enforce. For a lot of these players, there's no contract.

So if you don't pay the players left with, well, I guess I'll leave. Or the flip. they wait until their last check you think they're there and then they leave i can go double dip so that's a perfect example let's say Mario knows there's no contract so he goes to colorado and says Colorado you're going to pay me $300,000 up front Colorado says okay here's your $300,000 there's nothing to stop him from just leaving yeah so it is it is the wild west and that's why congress has to get involved And that's why Morgan McCarthy from Kentucky is probably going to be the person writing the legislation.

Because it has to happen. Because if they don't, it's just the Wild West. There's some players that you can just look at their history. They're different school the last three years. I'm not accusing them in double dipping, but it sure looks like they're bouncing around and just maximizing their money at each stop. And right now there's nothing preventing them from doing that. The core notion of capitalism in a society that, like, has order,

is that you can go to court to enforce agreements. We don't even have that. And so that's why I say it's like the turn of the century. In the turn of the century, a lot of rules didn't exist. And so people would just hold a gun to your head and go, I guess you're going to do what I say. We're almost to that point with metaphorical guns. which is the ability to play or not.

Who's next? Tio. T.O. What's up? Hey, Matt Jones. God bless you, boys. Coming to you live, hiding in the porta party at work here trying not to get caught.

Thank you. I'm just going to tell you. I've heard a lot of talk about dreams today. Yes. You always need to talk to the dream, Dr. Uncle T.O. Now, Ryan, well, you can't be running and hiding from shadows in your dreams. I'm going to tell you what Papa T.O. told me when I was a boy.

You got to fight back in your dreams. You've got to attack the boogeyman. I've seen all kinds of boogeymen in my years, and I ain't never run from them. I've attacked, attacked, attacked. But I tell you what, I have the best dreams ever nowadays, sleeping peaceful as ever. So that's true. So you think you need to fight back. It is showcasing in your dreams, Ryan, that you're running away from your problems instead of fighting them head on.

he said he's fought the boogeyman and won the boogeyman i see i ain't winning they're kicking my butt no so you can't think like that right tio you gotta go right at him right you got to be an animal you can't run you've got to fight thank you very much tio shayden and i agree with that advice don't you yeah this show is so strange sometimes sometimes yeah that's why i like it that's why it's top ten and podcast nationwide we're What's next? Norm. Norm.

How are you, Norm? Norm. Okay, man. Yeah, I'm doing good. Go ahead. Hey, I just, as some of those previous people said, got a lot of reservations, both with the football team and with the basketball team. And I guess UK's going to have to show me a little bit more on the front here before I continue to support them at the gate,

which I've done. And in previous. What's your reservation? What's your reservation about the football team? Well, typically that we go and we start 5 and 0, 4 and 0, 5 and 0, 6 and 0, and then we end up around the New 6th and 0. Like what do you expect UK football to be in the SEC? I expect, I think that realistically, an 8 and 4 season is attainable each year.

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