KSR - 2024-04-8- KSR - Hour 3

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

The most important things that led to Cal leaving, how this will affect recruiting, Cal's last four seasons, and more callers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Stop falling for Twitter accounts that are not real people. I know Elon has screwed up that platform. that it's hard to see who's real or not. But before you retweet a tweet that tells people something's happening with Kentucky basketball, look and see if the person is real. So people can stop sending me this S. Charles NFL Twitter account that says that Mitch is making an offer to Danny Hurley, he can't refuse. Look at his bio.

It says esteemed Patriots writer and journalism and female anatomy major. Do you really think that's a real deal? journalist. I missed that part in the bio there. Just have, like, I guess I need to do. It's always the people who tell me, Matt, you rely on the mainstream media. And then I look and they're retweeting accounts of frogs. Like, seriously, like, that's not a real account. If it was a real account, they would not put that.

So, like, read the accounts before you send them to see if they're true. There's a Tennessee account that's like RGW News that fools our fans all of the time because it's not a real account and everybody just falls for it so just take the time to make sure the thing is real ryan before you do it i was that way last night with a lot of early reports but then when bob holt reported it yeah that's a he is their version of jerry tipton and there's already people who have are taking my profile picture and putting it on their account and just saying stuff k y sports radio is my account the rest of them are not so like just to, you know, unfortunately, there was a time that, like, that was fixable.

Elon screwed that up, but that's the way it is. Yeah. So now let's just, just be extra careful. We got callers on the line, 859-280-2287. One person writes, Matt, I am getting really mad about the interview with Mitch and Cal. I actually don't blame Mitch. I think he got fooled. Do you think he got fooled?

I don't know if fools the word, but he, I mean, Cal pulled another sales job on him. I mean, like, Cal literally looked in it. This is why, at the end of the day, you should never believe any of these people. Cal looked in the camera and looked at us and said, I want to be here, be the coach here next year. I took it at his word. Why? He's been here 14 years. You know, I mean, he was our salesman, but he was a salesman.

you knew that. Like you knew that. You know, when I was listening to his radio interview and when I was watching his television interview, Drew and I were texting each other the same thing. It's the same cow stuff. Like, you knew that. How do we continue to let ourselves get, like, we knew this.

Why did you think it was going to be different? That's why you and I agree, we talked about it. I think I honestly believe Mitch has every, right to be upset because Mitch stuck his neck out for Cal and then Cal went and ran the other way. I have to say this about Mitch. Mitch took up for Cal in a way, I mean, I don't know many people that would do it. Yeah. Let me be real. Even when stuff was good, Cal has always treated Mitch as a second class like it's not his boss. And put Mitch in some very hard play. And put Mitch in some very hard Because what's Mitch supposed to do?

Cow's winning. If you're winning, you can't upset that guy. The fans will turn on you. So what's he supposed to do? And then finally, the fans kind of turn on Cal, and Mitch is the one who gives him a lifeboat, right? Sticks his neck out, jumps on the lifeboat with him in some ways. And then Cal jumps off and goes, I'm going to go on this ship over here. And he's been flirting with Ohio State since February.

I mean. I mean, that's an amazing, that was an amazing report that he considered the Ohio State job in February. While he's telling us, we're built for March. Very damning, I think. Maybe he was building for a March move. Maybe. Well, you remember Mitch's press conference after the basketball football school thing? He went on for like 45 minutes talking about it.

Yeah. But you know why he did is I think Mitch was on Stoop's side. Yeah. He was. You know why? Because Stoops treats him as a boss. They got a good relationship. And Cal didn't.

I do think there'll be some talk about what were the most important steps in this ending. I'll rank you my five. All right. The number one most important thing that happened was when Dwayne Peevee left because it made it to where Cal lost his disconnect from the administration. Dwayne Peevy was the guy between Mitch and Cal. When Dwayne P.V. left, it was never the same. Ever. Number two, John Robic.

When John Robic left, John Robic was a basketball, is a basketball savant. And when that didn't work, and I don't totally blame Cal for why that didn't work, but it didn't work, he never replaced that. Number three is Kenny Payne for the reasons we talked about. Number four was the basketball football school thing. whoever you want to blame for that is up to you we've talked about it as nausea but the bad blood from that never stopped ever it never got better and sides were drawn boosters chose sides fans chose sides we have a segment of our fan base that cow could never do well again we have a segment of our fan base that hates stoops because of that that was the work that ended up

being a bigger deal, Ryan, than I thought it was going to be, didn't you? Up to this week, it still been a deal. And the football staff never forgave Cal. Yep. And I don't think Cal ever forgave the football staff. I think it didn't help that he was in the Bahamas so you couldn't get everybody together. But that was a massive, massive deal. And then I think the last thing was the 9 and 16 season and how Cal looked at media members

of which I was certainly one, but I was not the only one, and thought, why weren't you all loyal to me during this? And he just went lights off against everybody. If I were to point to the, and then, of course, losing. St. Peter's. But I mean, losing, but losing trumps all that. But if you're talking about off-the-court stuff, Ryan, those are the things that I think were most important.

What about you? I think you've nailed it. I think you got the good list there. And like Billy said, you add that to the fact that no success. in March for the last four years. It all just kind of steamrolled and the crowd, the fans. We want success. You know, those people who said that we want Cal to fail,

that makes me so upset when I hear that. We want this team to succeed. Billy, you have to do a lot through all this with your job. Why do you think it went wrong? Well, I think it's about how you treat the people around you. And I think you can read between the lines when I say something like that, but I think that's a trickle-down effect from your AD, from your coaching staff, to the T.J. Bisoners of the world.

Yeah. I feel honestly, and you asked me, how is I going to be optimistic for next season last week? And my answer was a complete change in philosophy. The way that he talks to people, the way that he treats people, and the way that he recruits in a game that's evolved to older players. And I don't think we were going to get that. So that's why ultimately I come out of this optimistic that five, six years down the road, Kentucky, this would be a better thing for Kentucky than if he were the coach in the next year.

And if I don't communicate any other message, tell the people that are the age of these dudes right here who clearly agree with me or they wouldn't be here, I don't think, or at least. But tell them, like, we're going to survive this. This idea that people of a certain age have that, like, oh, no, Like we've had a bunch of coaches and we've won with nearly every single one of them. We're going to be fine. And you know what? If they hire this coach and it doesn't work, you know what will happen?

He'll be gone and we'll get another. You know, listen, Tubby Smith when he left, you know what didn't happen? It didn't work immediately. No, it didn't. But you know what happened over two years? You got Cal. Yep. We'll be fine.

Who's next? Chester. Chester, go ahead, Chester. Man, I was sitting there watching the WrestleMania last night, and all this stuff started going down, and the one thing I could just think about was that wrestling belt sitting there behind them in that interview. And I felt like that all this today is like a twilight zone I'm living in

because it reminded me the feeling when Hogan went NW. And I remember feeling that way that I did not lie, it just didn't feel right. And I think what's going to happen is it's going to be similar because Cala Perry to Arkansas, he's going to look back on this and regret it. When Hogan shows up, he ain't wearing NW.O. He's wearing Hulcomania. And, I mean, it's a silly comparison I know, but I just thought about it,

and I wanted to share that with you. And I think that it's come later on down the line. Cal is going to regret it. He's going to regret this, and he is not going to be remembered. I bet he does too. No, I agree with you on that. I'm conflicted. I'm conflicted about it.

I'm just conflicted about it. I agree with you. He will look back one day. I think Cal and wish he'd done some stuff differently and wish he had finished here. I do believe that. I do. By the way, I can't believe this.

Someone just sent me this. On Saturday, the John Caliperi podcast released a new episode called What's Next? On Saturday? On Saturday. John Calipari talks about what's next for him and his team and how he's approaching recruitment and the roster construction in the new world. It's 14 minutes long.

It's not a very long podcast. But now you got to listen to that, right? So that would, excuse me, it came out on Friday, which means he recorded it on Thursday the day before he left for Arkansas. Wow. Look how much everything has changed as he recorded that. His last words is Kentucky's head coach. Yeah.

In a 14-minute podcast. We got to see what that is. I mean, I got to listen up. I know what I'm listening to this afternoon. But I think we all agree. It was going to be, next year was going to be a lot of the same. But at that moment he had to know that he was considering it. You think so?

When he said, like, he had to at least have thought about it. If he ended up landing in Fayetteville, Arkansas on Friday, you don't think he just decided that morning to come? I don't know when the Tyson chicken people called him, but obviously he was thinking about it since February. Wow. before the season was over. That's by the way.

Who's next? Doug. Doug, go ahead, Doug. Yeah, Matt, I've got to tell you how I feel about what's going on, and then I have a question for you. All right, quickly. Okay, as far as Cal's leaving, I've got mixed emotions. I'm sad, kind of sad, because I remember how things used to be,

the excitement over the season, the excitement over recruiting, the excitement over the full season. and on the flip side, I'm tired of being resigned to how things are now. You'd still look forward to the recruiting in the postseason, but you resign to the fact there's a good chance you're going to get knocked out. You were, yes, unfortunately. What's your question? Okay, since Cal opted out of his contract, does he have a buyout?

No. So the way this was the way Cal's contract was. and it was probably one of the best coach friendly contracts ever. If Cal were to have been fired, we owed him $33 million. If Cal were to leave on his own, no one owes us anything. So Arkansas will not have to pay us anything. We don't have to pay him. The lifetime part of the deal is gone,

meaning there is no more ambassadorship or all that stuff. but there was no buyout, so Arkansas owes us no money. He has to be the only con coach that I know that has a contract like that. The lifetime deal. I mean, for instance, Nate Oates, buyout is $10 million. Cal had a buyout of $0. That's interesting that, yeah, that ambassadorship that he was in his deal is now off the table also then. Yeah.

No, that's gone. What's next? Alex. Alex, go ahead, Alex. Hey, guys, a long-time listener. I love your show. Listen, my family, my grandmother, everybody's to Alabama, so a football season come around, I didn't say nothing years ago.

When Bill Curry signed with you chaos, beat my chest, you know, oh, it's great. My uncle says, you can have it. Arkansas, you can have Canada. If the CEO of a company was making $8.5 million a year and you were in the negative for how many years, how long would he last? Not very long.

This is Kentucky. This is the gold standard. And every year it was hyped up. We're going to do this, do that, but then, you know, there was an old saying, how do you know it's springtime in Indiana? Your home planting flyers, Kentucky's still playing basketball. We're planting flyers now. We need to play.

Yep, I'm with you. I'm with you. Jay Wright, be a great one. I like Mark few. I don't know about oats. I don't. I mean, it's got to have a proven. I don't want to a final four this year.

Yeah, I mean, at least. But what's his record, though. You know what I'm saying? It's better than ours. I just, I want a proven winner, you know. Yeah, well, listen, I got to take a break. I appreciate the call. Tell me about stock to mortgage.

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Welcome back. It is Tucky Sports Radio. Some breaking news. You got the button, John. Do you know how to hit the breaking? No, no. All right. Aaron Bradshaw has entered the transfer portal.

I mean, this is just going to be everybody. Yep. Here's what's interesting to me. Let's see if he goes to Arkansas. Because if he doesn't, well, I think that says so. Let's see if he goes to Arkansas. If he does, I don't know if he will or not, but I think that'll be interesting to see. I think he was going to be in the transfer portal regardless of whether Cal Perry came back or not.

I think he was likely gone, which means, Ryan, I would think he doesn't go to Arkansas, but we'll see. I think that's probably the other. You read the T leaves. I think he definitely was probably going to be leaving the program. You know, Billy kind of joke, but he said at least he's not going to the NBA draft. I think there are a lot of people who thought he was still going to maybe go to the end, try to put his name in the draft. At least test the process. One person writes, Matt, do you think Travis Perry comes back?

or comes to school here still. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do too. I do too. I think he'll be here. That might be our only freshman. I mean, I mean, you know, we're going to be an old team next year because we don't have a choice. I mean, we're going to be really, we'll be one of those teams when the tournament comes in.

They go, everybody in this tournament team is 22, 23 years old. I think that's what we're about to be. Well, good. I mean, we've been hearing that we're built for March and then it's blamed on freshmen and their inexperience when they don't produce. Well, you're not going to have to worry about that this year. This is going to be an old. By the way, just so you know, national championships tonight,

there's a lot going on we can't talk about. Women's national championship was last yesterday. It was awesome. WrestleMania was last night. The eclipse is going on. The men's national championship is going on. And we can't talk about any of it because we've got all this other stuff. But I'll tell you something about the national championship tonight.

Connecticut and Purdue are two great teams. Connecticut has a chance to go down as one of the all-time teams, but Purdue's great too. Guess how many five-star recruits are starting tonight? Zero. Zero. Not one. So just remember that as we're building these rosters.

It's going to be different than what we're used to. It's not going to be like elite talents lining up and committing one after the other. But go look at how many elite NC State. You know how many five stars they had? Zero. Alabama, how many five stars they have? zero wow none in the final four none in the final four so you know it's going to be different but it might actually be what you have to do nowadays to uh to have success who's next viny vennie

what's up vennie hey matt first time long time uh just touched more on uh on hurley you know i was looking i know it's everybody's been saying it's a long shot but i'm looking at his contract He's only making four and a half nine a year. In my mind, make it work as wild. No, no, I mean, you at least have to make Yukon, you at least have to make Yukon pay him what he's worth, because he's making $4.5 million a year. We can pay $10 million a year.

So you at least got to go make Yukon pay that, don't you? Yes. It's a win-win for Hurley. Oh, Hurley's agents dancing in the streets today. I mean, Hurley's agent is like, this is the best day. of our lives. If they win the championship tonight, he's right his own check. Purdue. We need Purdue.

We need Purdue to win. Him losing would be our best opportunity. It'd be hard to walk away from back-to-back titles. You can't, can you? Be hard. Make an offer he can't refuse, Matt as some might say. Well, we'll see. For the first time in my life, I'm rooting for Purdue. Come on, I can't stand Purdue.

I can't believe they're still alive. You have to root for them, though, don't you? You have to. You know, we all talk about that Zach Ety, but Connecticut's big guy has been the star. He's been good, too. He has been great. How about the fact this is the two tallest players

to ever start at Center in a championship game? Is it really? It's only twice in the history of college basketball. Two seven footers have started. The other time was Patrick Ewing and Akimelajuan. Wow. And tonight is Zach Eadie and Donovan Klingin. And Yukon's still going to win by double digits?

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Please gamble responsibly, and the crown is yours. What's next? Reed. Read. Go ahead, read. Yes, guys. This is an excellent day for Kentucky basketball. I'm so elated about this.

been wanting Cal gone a long time and finally come to fruition. Why did you want him gone for a long time real quick? Well, just all the past. He can't get, he don't get very far in a tournament. He had won a championship. It's just, just like, well, for instance, this last tourney. I mean, Dick Gumb, you can't even beat Oakland. Come on.

I mean, there you go. Daggum, you can't even beat Oakland. What else can you say? I appreciate the call. Daggum, you can't even beat Oakland. Let me say this, because I don't want to get lost in all this. UK baseball, another sweep. They are now 11 and 1 in the SEC, tied for first place.

They're ranked 10th in the country. They're killing it. They're breaking records right now, school program records. It's insane. Best start in the SEC history for UK. Unbelievable. We'll take a break. We'll be right back.

It's KSR. Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. Got a couple students here from UK. What are the students? Are they bummed out? You're not. Well, some of them may be. What do you think?

Bitter sweet, I understand. For you guys, you grew up like that was a coach, you know, so I can understand that. Hey, a thing to remember about next year's team, let's just say you got Scott Drew or Nate Oates. I'm going to read you the recruiting rankings for next year. Duke is one. Kentucky is two. Guess who's number three? Baylor.

Guess who's number four? Alabama. Okay, so like, let's not act like you're dropping off the face of the planet if you get one of those two. I mean, they're literally the number three and four recruits in the country. So if you still want dudes who can play, those dudes can still play. Just like we saw with Kenny Brooks, the women's coach, the girls he had recruited to Virginia Tech, luring them over here to Kentucky.

Let me also note this. On three guesses NIL. I just want to sort of give you a sense of where NIL was with UK basketball. The average NIL per player, according to on three, now this is their, this is their, them saying that. Duke, 356,000. Baylor, 223, North Carolina, 286, Kansas, 177. Let's see. Texas, 21.

Rutgers, 630. That's crazy. Miami 263. Kentucky 157. Oh, this is basketball? That's basketball. It was a lot lower than I thought it would be. Me too.

It's because, folks, again, I've been telling you this. They've been having problems with this stuff. Might as well just say it now. When it comes to NIL for the last two years, they promised money that guys didn't get. That's just a fact. Isn't it? Yeah.

And now, though, like you said, those people that have that money will be more willing to step up to the plate with a new coach and the new system. There were guys who came here and thought one thing was going to happen, and they didn't. And I don't think it's possible that that can't affect Moriah. in someone. Sure does. It was a huge thing two years ago. Huge. You want to know why that team didn't succeed?

There's a lot of reasons, but that was part of it. Was it a sense of they could do it without NIL money, or was it just a lack of? It's a sense of when people think they're going, I think UK was recruiting. This is just my take. I think they were recruiting saying, hey, guys, you come here. It's Kentucky. If you're getting that there, America. what you're going to get here.

Yeah. And then it just doesn't happen. Yeah. You know, and then it just doesn't happen. And it doesn't matter so much for Rob Dillingham. Reed Shepherd, I think, did well with N.I.L. But it doesn't really matter for DJ Wagner, those guys, because they're not coming here for NIL. They're coming here to get to the draft.

But if you're a kid that's coming here for NIL and it doesn't happen, right? It's an issue. Who's up next? Chris. Chris, go ahead, Chris. I just wanted to say that I'm kind of right with you whenever you said that the first like nine years probably overshadowed what's happened the last four. But, you know, we're supposed to be the gold standard basketball.

And we just haven't been not kind of helped, you know, since they didn't get the opportunity for the COVID tournament. He hasn't been the same. Listen, I got to just say this about the COVID excuse. First of all, with that tournament, yes, we could have won it. We also were going to be a three seed, so let's not put us cutting down the nets yet. Okay, we had a shot to be good, but secondly, I'll be honest with you. I'm tired of people using COVID as an excuse.

COVID was not only in the bluegrass state. there are 49 other states everyone dealt with the same thing and in the three years since everyone's dealt with the same thing so this thing about like well everything changed during COVID you have to adapt right you have to adapt so yeah nine and 16 was terrible but and COVID was part of it but we weren't the only people dealing with COVID the entire country dealt with it and they did better than us. Like, that's not an excuse, you know? I'm not giving him an excuse. I'm just saying the year prior with Maxie and that team. I felt like that team was the best chance since, you know, probably Hero and, you know, cat.

But those were probably the last three teams that even had a shot. Yeah, I think you're right. And listen, I think that 2020 team was playing well, but let's remember something. and I appreciate the call. Everybody goes to the 2020 team, including Cal and says we could have won a title. In theory, Ryan, sure. But let's also remember the day before the final game, Ashton Hagan's got suspended from the team.

He didn't play in the last game. He didn't play in the last game. And we were a three-seat projected. So the idea that it's certain that we were going to. to go and win the tournament, I think is a little bit of Ryan revisionist history. I always say that too. That team was playing as good as any team in the country, but there was a little turmoil right there before March Madness started going into the SEC.

The tournament, everything got canceled. Ashton Higgins was suspended for his final game at UK. Would he have played in the postseason? I don't know. But we don't know for sure he would have. And since COVID, you've had a national player of the year that returned for a season. And you also had the number one three-point shooting team in the country. Yeah, you're exactly right.

I mean, you've had the talent. Let's just look at these four years in the abstract. Isaiah Jackson, first round pick. We forget him, but he was the 16th pick in the draft, and he plays in Indiana. Yep. Everybody forgets him, but he was on that team. BJ Boston is playing for the Clippers.

So we had two dudes in the NBA on that team. rest in peace terence clark but he probably would have played in the NBA too so that's at least three olivier saar olivier saar four yeah we went nine and 16 with four NBA players okay then the next year tie tie Washington i don't know what's going to happen with him in the NBA but dude scores like 40 a game in the in the g league and he was pretty good kelling grady when i do trivia do you all realize Kellen Grady had like the fifth most threes in a season ever at Kentucky. I'll forget that. Oscar Shibway's on that team, right?

Then, and he's national player of the year. We lost to St. Peters with the national player of the year, one of the three best three-point shooters we've had at Kentucky, and a dude who was picked in the NBA draft. next year we have a end of lottery pick in case and Wallace who's playing real minutes for a team that can win the title with the thunder we return the national player of the year and we lose in the second round and then this year we have the top two freshmen in the country and they're coming off the bench and we have an all-American and we have three of our six best three-point shooting percentage players in the history of Kentucky basketball. Think of all the dudes who could shoot. We had three of the six best on the team this year, and we lost to Jack Golky. Oh, man, you're making it hurt all over again.

So before we act like we're losing something that's irreplaceable, just think about that for a minute. Just in these four years alone, let's count the NBA players. Okay. Isaiah Jackson, B.J. Boston, I think Terrence Clark would have played in the league, rest in peace. Olivier Saw. Oscar Shibway has played and will play in the league. Five. Taitai, probably six.

Kaysen Wallace, seven. Reed Shepard, eight. Rob Dillingham, nine. Antonio Reeves 10. Maybe more. Yeah, maybe more. 10 dudes in four years, one NCAA tournament win. Coaching malpractice.

It is coaching malpractice. How can you not have more wins with that kind of talent? Adam accountant had, what, 10 threes against you, and then you couldn't play against the zone. 10 NBA players in four years, one NCAA tournament win. That hurts. one SEC tournament win. Oh, that's even worse.

So I'm not trying to crush the guy. I could do the same thing from 2010 to 2019, and the stats are unbelievably good. But these last four years have not been. These last four years matter. And they matter. Hey, you want something to cheer you up? How about the KSR bowling league?

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Bring out a team. You'll meet a lot of people over the course of the next 12 weeks. We'll take a break and be right back. Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. By the way, I said 10. It's actually 11. Jacob Toppins in the NBA, too.

859-280-2287. I throw another one at you before you change subjects. Yeah. I think Keon Brooks has put himself in position where he's going to get drafted. He had like this monster year out there. I'd be surprised if he gets drafted. But maybe. I mean, it's possible.

I'd be surprised. I mean, DJ Wagner may end up in the league at some point. Hugo could be. Maybe. Who knows? Shaden Sharp. Shade and Chris Livingston. There's another one in the NBA.

Good grief. This keeps getting worse. Without even counting Shaden Sharp, that's 12 dudes in four years, one tournament win. To me, that's it. Right? That's it. Twelve NBA guys? It's unacceptable.

You lose to St. Peter's in Oakland and. I forgot about Chris Livingston. See? Wow. All right. Who's up next? Greg. Greg.

Go ahead, Greg. Hey, Matt. Long time, first time. I've been listening to you since, well, since the pregame was down in the basement of Rup. Oh, well, thank you, ma'am. I'm the same age as few. I've both my grandmother's were fans. I've got my little brother's namesake is after Kyle Macy.

I've got one of my children's name, Cal. I was also a Cal Ripkin fan, but anyway, there's a chance that we're not given Barnhart enough credit, I think, in that that interview could have been all for show. In other words, I think Barnhart realized kind of what y'all have been talking about. The thing that made Cal really successful as a recruiter doesn't make him so much of a great organized leader. Yeah, I don't believe. let me just say this about Mitch. I do not believe Mitch Barnhart would have gotten on television and intentionally lied to the fans.

I do not believe that. That's not the kind of person he is. Mitch Barnhart would not have gotten on television and said John Cal Perry is going to be the coach next year unless he believed it. I do not think he would do that. But in the back of his mind, he knew Cal could have been looking.

I mean, I don't know what he knew and what he didn't, but you will not confirm. me that Mitch Barnhart got up and said something that he didn't believe to be true. It's just not something he would do. Can I convince you of this, that he went into that meeting with Calipari, that this is the list of ultimatums. And can you agree with this, that Calipari would have had a real hard time agreeing to all those? I mean, I don't know all the details.

I appreciate the call, so I can't say. And listen, I don't know what Mitch is. thinking today. He might secretly think this worked out well in the end. But I just, I just don't believe he would have, I just don't believe that. Do you? No, Mitch is not that kind of guy. He's just not. He is, Mitch is like honest to a fault. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, he just is. Say what you want to about him. He is a straightforward, honest, respectful man. Let me say about to all of you here, and this goes on tonight, tomorrow, and Wednesday. If you come to KS Bar, you go up to the front, pick somebody to win the Masters.

There's a list of them on your table. If they win the Masters, you will split $2,000 with everybody that picked that person. It's our Masters contest if you eat here tonight, today, Tuesday or Wednesday. So pick a person. We will be giving away $2,000 thanks to Country Boy Brewing, who's going to have huge beer specials here throughout the week as part of the Master. giveaway, but it's a pretty amazing thing, and you got all the list there of who you're going to pick. And it's really cool to watch the Masters in here. There's something about seeing it on all

the screens, and you're all kind of hanging on every shot. So, yeah, it's kind of fun. Come on down and check it out. What's next? Derek. Derek, go ahead, Derek. Hey, Matt, just got a couple things. I'd like saying two questions. I'll hang up and listen to your thoughts. So I think this worked out exactly how Cal wanted it because he's ego-driven. and we know that. I don't think he wanted fired, let go, whatever on his resume, right? I agree. I agree with that, yes.

He was looking. And in hindsight, now this has worked out best case for Mitch Barnhart. We're saving $33 million. My two questions are this. I think we all have the same top four, right? We want Hurley, Oates, we do Jay, Ryan, and Billy Donovan. How realistic in a percentage do you think that's possible? And then how awkward is this TBT team now going to be?

in the summer. I didn't even think about that. You know, it's going to be interesting with the former players, and I appreciate the call. There will be former players whose relationships with Kentucky maybe won't be as strong. I think that's fair. But at the end of the day, they went here, right?

They'll be back here. Will they also help Cal out at Arkansas? Probably, if we're being honest, probably. But you remember how everybody said that when Kenny Payne went, to Louisville, we'd lose all our guys to Louisville. That didn't really happen. You know, you go to the college you go to. So I still think these Kentucky players over the years will still come back.

Well, I really enjoyed Boogie and Rondo's conversation a couple weeks ago. I mean, Rondo was as big of a Kentucky supporter as anybody, and maybe that will be all of these Cal players five, ten years down the line. I think that's right. I ask you during the break? That's a guy I mentioned. I said, do you think Boogie and Wall still have that connection with the U.K.? Or do they start going to Arkansas?

He still loves his place. They still love him? Cal, you know, do I think some of those guys visit Fayetteville, Arkansas? Yeah, sure. But do I think that means they don't come here? No. Do you? Yeah, there were UK players that went to Louisville to visit Petino when he was the coach there,

so they'll go to Arkansas and visit their coach, but they're still Kentucky. I think so. That's what I would think. Who's next? Edward. Edward, go ahead, Edward. Hey, Matt. So I know some of the fan base is really disappointed and bummed out.

today about Cal Lehman, but, you know, for me, I kind of compare it to how I felt in 97 when Patino left. I mean, I was devastated when Petino left, and that's a different feeling today. I'm not, I'm devastated. I don't feel a little excited, but in 97, it was just a different feeling. So I think we're in the right direction and I'm excited about the future. I agree. It's different. I mean, I appreciate the call. Even the people that are the most bummed about it, what if this had happened six years ago? We would all, we would all be, We'd be apocalyptic. You know, and it's not like that.

No, it's not. The timing was just right. I think the timing was good. Yeah. Honestly. I think the timing was good. And at the end of the day, we just have to remember, like, Kentucky's been through this before. More than any program in college basketball, we have succeeded through multiple coaches.

No program in college basketball has won with more different people than Kentucky. Kentucky has, and that I think will continue. And also helping you win is court physical therapy. Oh, probably. No company has helped people with their physical therapy needs more than court. It's KORT.com. There's no reason to be in pain. Call court.

They'll help you work it out. You don't need a doctor's referral. It's all there for you. It is court.com. That's KORT.com. Go to court.com for your physical therapy needs with court. Last thoughts, Billy. It hurts, but like you said, the program will go on,

and I'm excited, optimistic about who they'll get in the next week or so. Yeah, that's where we're all going to shift over the next days. What do you thought? I think we give ourselves a day to kind of hang our head a little bit, but then get excited about the new coach in a new era getting ready to start here. It's going to be a wild week. We'll keep you up to date. As things happen, watch online.

I'm going to post on KSR later today, and then we'll be back here tomorrow at the bar. I was going to do other stuff this week. but I'm just going to stay here in Lexington. Billy, come back tomorrow. All right. Yeah. You can do the pre-show, though.

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