KSR - 2024-05-17- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

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already been arrested this morning after a crazy incident here in front of a hollow golf course is about to tee off. You can give us shout to Clark's Puppet Shop phone line, 859-280-2287. The A-Vision Auto Glass Text Machine is 772-774-5254 in this edition sponsored by the T.J. Smith-Lovice. You call T.J. He'll make them pay. All right, let me explain the situation here a little bit, first of all, just for the show. Ryan had to go to a funeral this morning, so he is not here.

He will be at the funeral of our former co-worker His for many, many years, Billy Williamson. So prayers to Ryan and Billy's family. Shannon was going to be here, but because of traffic after an absolutely terrible tragedy this morning, he is back at the studio, so it is just me and Drew here. Billy will probably be here in a minute. So let's update people if you just woke up.

what an insane situation. I want to start with probably the thing that's the most important that I don't want to get lost because it's going to get lost, and that's unfortunate, but I do want to start with this. Unfortunately, there was an individual killed this morning who was hit by a shuttle in front of Vahala golf course.

It was a person who was coming here to work at one of the vendors for the golf tournament. A shuttle did not see them and hit them. It was apparently early in the morning, darkness, awful situation. And they passed away. Our prayers go out to that individual, their family, just terrible. I mean, I can't imagine the sadness of everyone that knows the person.

It's just absolutely awful. And, you know, we have to acknowledge that first. But then what happens next is going to be a national story for all day, probably days to come, which is the Scotty Sheffler, I guess, was coming to the course and ended up getting arrested for not following police officers' orders. The charges have now included second-degree assault here in Louisville. He has already been released this morning on his own recognizance. He is about to tee off in a minute and a half. We're sitting here watching it on the big screen.

He has already been represented by Steve Romines. former KSR multiple-time guest and hey Kentucky co-host is now Scotty Sheffler's lawyer and that's the intro. Everything else will be up to interpretation. But Drew, if you're talking about a wild day, it's only 10 o'clock this morning and all of that happens. I want to join you and start with the thoughts and prayers for the vendor who tragically died and their family and friends with that loss. but the chaos around this scene here, it's hard to not just be, it's everywhere. I mean, I'm on my shuttle bus,

and there's 10 different conversations all about the same thing. There's, most of the news seems to be out now, the details and things coming out. I've only been here in this building 15 minutes. I've been driving in the rain, so I'm trying to stay off my phone,

and I'm kind of taking this all in as it's coming, but it's just, it's so hard to imagine the world number one golfer and maybe the nicest person on tour. He's just so boring. I will say. The nicest part. But no, let me think.

Like, he's the most boring human. He's seen a mugshot. I'm just saying the image of that is weird. The mugshot's crazy. He's just a boring guy. He went to jail this morning before he teed off. I believe he's nice. I'm sure that's true.

I mean, I don't know him. But I'm sure that's true. But, you know, this is very complicated, in my opinion. I think where we're going to end up is somewhere different than we are now, whatever that is. but because, you know, in the first moments after things happen. But you're exactly right. The craziness of this. And like of all the golfers, about half the field, if you told me there's a mugshot to wake up to, I mean, like, okay.

But number one in the world is Scotty Shuffler is the one that is involved in this. Shannon? Yes. They're never going to have this here again, probably. Well. I mean, I think we're probably, this is probably the last time we'll see. I mean, because this is good. I mean, this is, I got a New York Times alert this morning about it.

They only send that alert about like worldwide news. I mean, Shannon, this is crazy for this city right now. Absolutely crazy. I want to join the two of you and saying prayers to the family of the person to passed away. That's a terrible, tragic event that happened this morning. But, you know, if you read the report from Jeff Darlington from ESPN, who was there to witness the whole thing firsthand,

I can't help but think that that situation could have been avoided. It could have been avoided. I think that's probably fair. And Billy's here too, and Billy, I'll let you comment on. This is my take acknowledging that we don't have all the information. I think that's very important to say, because whatever people's opinion is,

usually what we hear first is not the only part of it, right? Sounds like I think Shannon hits it. Sounds like it's a situation that probably could have been avoided. It's a situation where probably, so Sheffler says, and Jeff Darlington, it seems like Jeff Darlington saw the second part of it. He saw after the police officer came. But Sheffler says there was a misunderstanding.

One officer told him to go. One officer told him to stay. I totally can believe that. That's happened to probably all of us, where two or three people are telling you what to do. It's dark. We're trying to navigate a huge traffic situation. It's raining. There's been a car accident.

The police are probably on high worry because they've just had a car accident where somebody passed away. Again, it's dark, it's raining. He's confused. One officer says go. One officer says stay. When the officer says stay sees you going, it annoysing, right? Because he's telling you one thing and you're not doing it. So that annoysing. He probably gets angry. Sometimes when people get angry, they can go too far. Then he reaches into the car. Sheffler acknowledges maybe he actually kept going a little bit accidentally. The officer could think, are you not listening to me? And now you're, you know, Billy, I can see how it could happen to be honest with you.

Now, how it goes from there to getting arrested and booked with second degree assault is something we'll probably figure out over the next. Right. And it's, you know, the truth is somewhere in the middle. I'm sure it's rarely black and white. But we use the word surreal several times on the pre-show. That's what this is. I mean, for this to all happen in a matter of five minutes, and then for them to take him downtown, put him in the orange jumpsuit.

Okay, so that, all right, let me start with that. In Lexington, on something like that, they don't usually get put in the orange jumpsuit. Do they get put in the orange jumpsuit in Louisville? No, usually you get just booked in what you were wearing. Right. Yeah. I don't know. Anybody ever been arrested on this show?

Not me. No. No. So a lot of us can speak first in. But I mean, the orange jumpsuit is like something you usually, again, maybe I'm not, I don't know, Maybe somebody can tell me. But the orange jumpsuit, does that happen when you're in jail for less than an hour? I've been known to frequent the Lexington jail website.

Just to check on people. But aren't they usually in their regular clothes? Yeah, it's not everyone wearing orange. So that's weird to me. I'm going to be honest with you. How do you end up in the orange jumpsuit? Because that's going to be a picture for all time. That will follow him for a year.

Tomorrow there will be people wearing that picture on a t-shirt. No, there will. I guarantee you. I saw that and didn't believe it. I didn't believe it either. The first one I didn't. saw, I thought they're kidding. Yeah.

So that is, and then I don't, all right, this is the part I'm going to need the police to explain to me. I'm going to give the police the benefit of the doubt because it's got to be a hard job. I always do this, and it makes my liberal friends mad most of the time. Sometimes it makes my conservative friend. I usually give the police benefit of the job, doubt. That's a hard job. With that said, police are human beings.

They can have tempers. right they can have tempers but i do need to know this Drew if you're going to charge a person with second degree assault assaulting an officer which is a felony okay that is a felony that is a go to prison felon as a big charge how do you let him out an hour later if you if you

if you believe he has that level of charge how does he get out an hour later because those two things are not consistent to me. Either that charge is way too much. And you let him out because you're like, this shouldn't have happened. Or B, how'd you let, like, he clearly got preferential treatment. They ain't letting you out, Billy. Billy can't have a tea time today. If you got charged with assaulting a police officer. Maybe if Governor Bashir called or the mayor of Louisville.

Okay, but all right, so let's talk. So I've seen people say, why do I, Bashir and the mayor get involved? I would argue they shouldn't get involved. Why would the mayor or governor? If the mayor or governor got involved, I think that'd be a mistake. You do? Yes. They wouldn't get involved if you got arrested. No, but this is the number one golfer in the world. But when it comes to law, all people should be equal. I agree. Yeah. So this idea, let me put it like this. If you found out that the mayor or governor called to get their friend out, would that bother you? Yeah.

So why would you want them to call and get someone else out? Special circumstances. What's the special circumstances? He's teased off in two hours? Tees off in two hours. He's the number one golfer in the world. You cannot ignore the fact that this man is competing. That's fine.

But you act like the world. You had got a deal out last night. Would you say let him out. You act like the world. will stop. Listen, I think he probably shouldn't have been arrested from what I see. Let me be clear. But the idea that the governor or mayor, and again, I like those two people, but I've criticized the governor especially a number of times, the idea that they should intervene in a local police thing and say, let this guy out so he can make his tea time. Hey, it's a positive one. And then what if you find out that Schephler had done something wrong?

And then you found out the governor intervened to get him out. That's even worse. Exactly, which is why they should stay out of it. Especially the governor. The mayor, they're the head of the police. There's some argument there. The governor, if the phone call came from the governor, even if Schaeffler ends up 100% innocent, I'll criticize that.

Governor should not be getting involved in local law enforcement. Does anybody disagree with me on that? So how quickly can a charge be dropped? Like, how quickly can you be like, who we shouldn't have done that? Could have been dropped. It could be dropped today. Something that can, I mean, could, but will it happen? Like, as soon as you arrest the guy, can you immediately be like, ah, should have done that.

But here's the thing. Like, this officer's name is going to come out. It's already out. At least. Okay, well, before you say, I don't want to say the wrong one. No, I'm not going to say it. I'm just saying the full report's out. The officer's name could come out.

If you drop it today, you're essentially acknowledging your officer really screwed up. So I don't know what will happen. Romines is the lawyer, Shannon. Ha, yeah. How about that? Who represents all the big celebrities. Romines is the law. Billy, I get the sense you disagree with me.

I get the sense you think that the mayor, governor, president, whatever, should have interfered to get him here for his tea time. Well, I'm just, you know, I don't think anybody's above the law. Let me be clear. I think, you know, the law should be represented equally to everybody. But if the mayor was aware that this is a situation that escalated and the charges might be dropped later. But what if they're not? What if it comes out? Again, I'm going to assume you're right.

But you have to remember, if you're making this decision, you've got to consider all sides. Sure. What if it comes out that he did do something wrong? And you intervene to get him out before you knew that. It's even a worse look for you. Exactly. That's why you can't get involved. Yeah.

It's just a black eye for the city. It is definitely a black eye. And it stinks. It stinks for the city. It stinks for the city. It stinks for viola. It stinks. It stinks for Sheffler, too.

Stinks for Sheffler, who's now teed off and is out there playing. You're talking about giving treatment because he's the number one in the world. I mean, John Daly shot 82 yesterday. If he had done the same thing, do you just do you let him out because he has a tea time? He's not going to win it. That's exactly right. Do you let out the club pro that qualified for this tournament from Oklahoma? No, they wouldn't.

No, you would not. Preferential treatment. Preferential treatment. So that's why, even though I think ultimately this one, will be a bad look for the Louisville PD probably in the end we don't know that but probably you can't give I mean you can't give the dude preference so he can make his teetown it's not like so he can make I mean this is important but it's golf and it can move on without him there are several other people yes and the PGA has ways to let him play later they actually have provisions where you know

yeah I mean it's not the end I'll be off if he made misses his tea time. But, you know, maybe they realized that it escalated to a point where it shouldn't have been. But that's just the what if at this point, right? Yeah, we don't know. Some other stuff, like a couple other golfers walked a mile and a half with their clothes. Did you see that? That's why.

Well, it was allotores. Well, you remember we said this yesterday. Remember what I said yesterday? That's a horrible entrance. It is. You have to turn. And this is actually tragic. It's not funny, unfortunately.

But that's a horrible entrance. entrance. And I'm not sure there's any other way you could do it. I looked at it coming in. But you have to turn left against traffic. And that's not good. On a major thing, you have to turn left against traffic. And I thought that yesterday pulling up. This is not a good way to get in here. But I'm not sure if there's another way you could do it, unfortunately. I don't think it's going to matter after Sunday. It also doesn't seem to be a lot of great walkways over there where people are still walking too. Yeah. All right. Shephler's about to hit his third shot. We'll keep you track. 859-2-80-2287. What do you think? I've got a text in to

Romine, Shannon. I'm trying to get him on the show. We might be the first show to get him on. We'll see. We'll take a break. Be right back. KS.R. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending. Opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.

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Text Machine is probably as active as it's been since the day we were trying to figure out of Cal left. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, this is the kind of thing that, like, you don't have to care about golf. Everybody's got to care about this. Everybody's going to have an opinion. They should. All, Billy, I want you, you ask me a couple things during the break that I think are really good points that I want you to ask again. Well, you know, how would we have figured out that Scotty Shuffler was arrested if Jeff Darlington wasn't there to get out of his car?

We wouldn't have. And that's what makes, over the years, you've probably heard me say about a variety of different issues that things are hard. Right? They're not cut and dry. If Jeff Darlington's not there to give what happened after the cop was there, he wasn't there when it happened. all we would have heard is a statement from the LMPD saying he was arrested with the officer's side of the story and that's what happens in 99.9% of arrests in America

and it's just something to remember Jeff Darlington ain't falling around the average person right you know now with that said Jeff Darlington's report got out first you owe the officer as well the respect to see what happened You owe that to people.

You owe them to get both sides. That's why it is so important to wear these laws that require body cans. Why is that important? Well, people have often, there have been people who are like, don't want to do it because they're worried it'll implicate officers. It can also help officers. Right now, the public seems to be on Sheffler's side, right? Because like Drew said, seems like a nice guy. seems like a weird situation.

But if there's a body cam that shows something different. Right. That might be what helps the officer in the end. Camera's never going to lie. For the most part, yeah. I should say never. But most times you're going to get... But that's why it's so important we require officers to wear body cams.

Because it can tell us what happened. Because Jeff, like you said, Billy, Jeff Darrington ain't always there. Yeah, he was Johnny on the spot. I mean, and not only that, this has just become such a national story. You remember Jeff Darrington's a guy, Shannon, who can spin, stuff on his fingers. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's how I know that name. He could spin anything, chairs, computers, anything you have, he can spin like a basketball. It's quite a talent. I was listening to him on the radio on my drive. He popped on ESPN and he said they're watching

unfold and everyone in the car has no clue at Scotty Sheffler and then someone's like, that's Scotty. So they're just seeing this random who they think is. Well, you saw in the video, Darlington runs up to him trying to stop the cop. And Scotty's like, please help me. Yeah, Scott He says, help me. And then the cop comes up to his. But again, if you don't, if the cop doesn't know who Jeff Darlington is, he didn't know Scotty wasn't. Oh, yeah, we're Scottie in that.

Yeah, I mean, like, I'd say in lots of situations, somebody's getting arrested. And then somebody's running up going stop. Right? You and I know who Scotty Schaeffler is. Shannon, before today, would you have recognized Scotty Schaeffler on the street? No. And if I were police officers and somebody did that, a lot of officers wouldn't know who he is. I would arrest him.

Right? It's not. We're in the tiger woods. So if you're that, like that officer says, who is that? They didn't know. Right. And, you know, I'm not excusing the guy dragging a police officer 10 hours on the car. And we don't know that he did that.

Just according to Jeff's report. Well, but Jeff Darlington, though, be clear, didn't say he dragged him. Jeff Darlington just, Jeff Darnton saw what happened after the confrontation. Am I wrong? I don't think he saw. He said he was attached to the car. He didn't say the word dragged. But he said it attached.

See, we don't know what that means. And then he said the cop reached in and opened the door. Okay. But we don't know what he said to him before that. Yeah, no, I'm just repeating what Jeff Darling has put out there. So. It is wild that Jeff Darlington in a truck of ESPN people just happen to be right behind it. One of which was my twin.

Did you see that? Dave Fleming was in there, too. Good reporting that. See, I was in multiple places at once. You made a good point, Drew, about the vest. So if people are here, the security has on the, same vest the copston. The high school kid parking cars could be looking exactly like a police officer at that time of day.

So when Sheffler says he didn't know it was a cop, I can totally believe that, right? Because you could totally think that the guy parking the car is the same as the police officer. My understanding from hearing his interviews several, Darnage has been a few things, that players had permission in their vehicles to go a certain way. and some of them even said we took the same path that Sheffler did with no problem. So I guess in Sheffler's mind, he thought he was doing the right thing. Maybe this person in the vest, he doesn't realize as a cop.

He thinks, well, this person doesn't know the message. So I'm just going to go to the next checkpoint. No, let me through. The police say he crossed a median. Now, I'm not saying that's correct. But you also, you know, I think what often happens,

this is, I think, a really good test to think about what happens in other situations. Our natural inclination, Billy, wouldn't you agree is to usually believe the police? Yeah. Right? Usually believe the police.

Certainly mine. It's probably most people's. When the stories are different, most people generally believe the police. Right, here's a case where the stories between the police and Scotty Schaeffler might be different. Is your natural inclination to believe Scotty? It probably is. If you're being honest, and I'm just saying, just always keep in mind in these situations that, Because, again, now the police may change their story when they see the body cam, at which point Scotty may be vindicated.

But the first report from the police says he crossed the median. Well, Scotty said he didn't. Who do you believe? It's in part depending on what you think is right. That's why we shouldn't rush to judgment. But we always do. Everyone. Yeah.

Everyone always rushes to judgment. And this is a perfect example where it seems like the general public is initially not believing the police whereas the general public initially usually believes the police. And I just think it's good to keep that in mind for all these situations. And it's very unique traffic, sir.

It's not like there's set laws there. I mean, they're trying to get people around. It's a very unique situation on that road right there. It is. You'd have to see it. You probably wouldn't do that on a Friday afternoon in traffic just normally. You know, they're doing weird things to get around it

to get people in. You'd have to see it to see, first of all, it was set up, unfortunately, for something bad to happen. There was a wreck yesterday. There was a wreck yesterday in the exact same spot. So, all right, we'll take a break. Take your calls. Ready for this.

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.

The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.

And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.

He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers,

why he got the ball, like, you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out. real quick. Get your ass up and down the court and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagleman with the Inner Cosmos podcast, and for Mental Health Awareness Month, we're dedicating a series to understanding the mind when it struggles. I'm joined by doctors, researchers,

and those with lived experience. We'll talk with singer-songwriter, jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car and then my car got stolen. I was shoplifting. I was having panic attacks. I was agoraphobic. And making it through hardship. To be present is a learned skill. And it's hard to be present.

We'll talk with John Nelson about clinical depression and the brain implant that saved his life. What I learned is that procedure made me happy because I'm disease-free. And we'll talk with leading experts like Judd Brewer about anxiety. and John Hirschfield about obsessive-compulsive disorder and the science of how the brain can change. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course and what we can do about it. Listen to Intercosmos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J., he'll make them pay. Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stock.

in mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back. All right, I'm going to take your calls real quick. A couple things on text petition. One person writes, Matt, does the crowd now cheer for Scotty all weekend? Yes. He's going to have a huge following now. You have a huge following. Wait until tomorrow. I'm going to be here tomorrow with hubby.

Wait till tomorrow. There'll be those orange jumpsuits. My biggest question for the police department is why is he in that orange jumpsuit? I mean that. I don't think that's normal. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm glad to be told I'm wrong. But I don't think that's normal. I saw he was arrested in his Nike polo.

Is there a scenario where he'd be like, I don't want this Nike polo. Maybe that's the answer. Do you have anything else I could wear? Very possible. Because he was wearing what he's golfing in today. Very possible. Very possible. I think it's also important to remember, and then I'll go to some calls.

In the context of whatever happened. Okay. Whatever the officer did, whatever he did. It's also important to remember the police are doing a death investigation. Yeah. Right? Mere feet from where he is. there is an investigation over a death.

So everybody's probably on pins and needles, right? Channing, you know what I mean? Absolutely. You know, you have to take that ultra-serious. Yeah, this isn't a fender-bender. It's much more serious in the situation. Exactly. And so, Drew, like where you said some other players had gone around,

the situation might have changed from when other players had gone around. There might now be, you know, an investigation going on that's a little different. different than when the other. I don't know. I mean, again, I wasn't there, but. Yeah, and Scherffler didn't know what had happened in that circumstance. I don't know if his behavior would have changed, but he said in his statement that he had no idea. He didn't know what happened. He thought he, I don't think he said this specifically, but it could have been in his brain. This is just bad traffic, and I have to get there. That's another great point. Again, on the Scotty side. He doesn't know there's a death. He may just be like, will you let me get to the

course? I've been there. A sense of entitlement for a golfer, people trying to block my way. Listen, I've been there before. Like, there's a show coming. Please just let me through. There's people there waiting to hear me. And if you don't know, and then you hear it's death, and you go, oh, I didn't know that. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that plays a part to why they were so tense, maybe, and unlike you said, it certainly plays to why the police, because the police probably know there's a death. Certainly do, right? But do they know that PGA has told the Valhalla golfers that they can enter the golfers. Don't know. Maybe. Maybe not.

That's what I'm saying. We've asked 15 questions that are very important before you decide, quote-unquote, who's at fault. All right, who's up first? All right, let's go to Blake. Blake. Go ahead, Blake. Hey, guys. Tragic events today. Valhalla, Black Eye, for the whole state and everything.

But as far as, like, Scotty, you know, in the orange jumpsuit, usually that's like a solitary confinement kind of thing. And most of the time and most like jails, they'll do booking and pictures before they put you in that. But I looked on the Louisville Metro website to kind of look at other inmates. And they all seem to have that orange jumps. Okay. Well, maybe it's just a little thing then. Maybe they just do that in Louisville.

Yeah, it might just be a Louisville thing. And as far as some other reports. It's a Louisville thing. We always put you in orange. Yeah, I don't think they do that in Lexington. So you may be right. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, they don't do that in Lexington or other jail, so it might just be that. But, and then as far as, like, you know, him having two cops tell them two different things, you know, there's other players, too, that have tweeted and said some stuff that they were allowing all the PJ guys got a notification that they were allowed to go past that.

So I don't, I think it just was a miscommunication and, like, feelings got hurt. And the thing about the charges is that, like, you know, they'll, they just try to send you with as many charges as they can. And they can drop those. You're exactly right. They can drop those. So I do think, you know, maybe they all get dropped, but some of them, like, they can drop those. So you're exactly right. The charges are flexible, and I appreciate the call.

I'd be surprised if anyone involved had bad intentions. I agree with that. Right? Do you agree with that? Yeah, I mean, on the police officers end, as we just said, there's a death investigation just starting. everyone's on high alert, not what they expected to do at that moment. Scotty is unaware of what's happening in thinking, I'm supposed to be in this tournament. I am already late.

You know, I think I can go this way. I'm in an official PGA car. I should be able to do this. So I think on both sides, just me guessing from my seat, that they're both just thinking they're doing what's right in that situation. Yeah. And then if you did get quote unquote dragged, I mean, I don't know how many officers you know, but there ain't going to be too many who are like, That's cool.

Thrilled. No problem. It's really. Oh, you're bad. It's okay. If it's really dragging, that will need to get settled because you don't accident. The two people thinking they're in the right should believe in that. Scott said in his statement, cop reached in.

He was trying to park, couldn't park. That's where the body cam we need to see. That's why we need to see the body cam, right? Yeah. But for my guy to go out there and birdie the first hole right after, I mean, it didn't phase him. What if he wins? I mean, if he wins, is that not one of the craziest? stories of all times. It rivals Tiger Woods and the Masters in 2019. I mean, I can't think of

another better moment in golf. I think this is, it's more likely he already thought he was going to come back even after what Zander did. Now I think he's going to be a man possessed out there for three days. And we hold out on the first hole. He's got, okay, now look at this. He's got a little knee knocker here for par on the on hole two. This will say where his mind is right here, Billy. Okay. Well, he can't pick it up, so he actually has to make a putt. This is definitely a putt I would pick up. This is the exact range. This man was in a jail cell an hour and a half ago. This is the exact range that has kept me from being good at golf and I would pick up right here. Sheffler for par. Let's see if he makes it. Oh, see the jail. Now what? I said man possessed. I forgot. He

didn't get his hour on the putting green. It's exactly right. He didn't get to warm up. Less than an hour You do have to wonder, you know, it's such a mental game, the game of golf. Like, where is his head going to be? How can he be focused on winning a championship? Be hard. I mean, this can't be how he saw his morning going. No. Just from a golf perspective, he's learning what the rest of us do, where we rush to our tea time.

One practice swing while you're tying your shoes and let's go. I've never hit one range ball before. I mean, you just go out there because he did. Welcome to golf, Scotty. There you go. Well. This is real golf. Okay, so I think about this sometimes.

Imagine he got up this morning how he thought his morning was going to go. Sure. Going to eat a little breakfast? Get out to the golf course. This is his first trip as a dad. He had a baby. Check on my wife and baby. Go out to hit the range and putt.

And then all of a sudden he's riding in the back of a police car to Louisville Metro jail. And he's probably like, wait a minute. And it's not even 8 o'clock yet. He's 4-stroke back. The clock. Unbelievable. Who's next? Let's go to Bob.

Bob. Go ahead, Bob. Good morning, Tassard. I'm sure Scotty's not a stranger kid. Police lights on the road when he's going in. But when there is a death on the road, doesn't he have to stay there until the coroner comes? No, not necessarily.

I mean, you know, unless he was a witness, but like he, I don't think he was. So, you know, like when you're on the interstate sometimes, Bob. No, no, no. The body has to remain there until the coroner comes. Well, that may be true, but that doesn't mean he has to remain there. I don't know. So that would hold traffic up.

It could. That's true. It's good. You're exactly right. I'm sure traffic was bad, this boy. If he had a marked car, why wasn't he allowed to go ahead to the engines? Well, we don't know, we don't know. Regardless of what is.

Well, because I mean, we don't know. Maybe because they were doing a death investment. investigation. You know, I mean, I don't know. Does the authority exceed the ability there? What do you mean? Does the authority exceed the ability? What does that mean?

He had authority to stop people, but he didn't have the ability to handle the situation. Well, that may be true. He may, that, Bob, I appreciate the call. It may be true. You know, sometimes we give, sometimes we don't appreciate how hard a job it would be to be a cop. but sometimes we give them paranormal powers where we forget that they're actually human beings who Shannon can have a temper who can overreact. They're all humans.

So I can understand that situation. Temper's already being high and a lot of people dealing with that situation probably agitate it. And then imagine you get dragged 10 yards in that situation. Yes. You can overreact. Turkey Hunter said Ryan putted for prison. Scotty prisoned then putted It's like the same

Who's next Let's go to Sean Sean go ahead Sean Hey guys I just wanted to give you My unique take I hauled about 15 truckloads of equipment in for that BGA Championship

The biggest problem I saw over there is They've had that championship Multiple times and they still don't have a good plan For getting equipment and or people in and out of there It's terrible. It's a terrible entrance. Yeah.

Yeah. You had, the city could have done better job with traffic. They could have brought in like the construction lights or just put a light itself to control the flow of traffic out there because that is way too fast in that area for that. I saw better traffic control for an eclipse than for the PGA championship. And it's probably the case that like when I've come in both days, they have a pretty good flow. But it is probably the case that's when that bus hit the thing at 530 or 540. It might not be as controlled yet, to be honest with you.

The city's done this multiple times now, and Shelbyville Road in that area needs to slow that traffic down because it's too much traffic for the area. That was my first point. My second point is LMPD does have a history of being heavy-handed. And you don't get scorned by the... the DOJ for always handling high-stress situations well. So, you know, when I was listening to the radio this morning, I guess it was Jerry Ease, they must have had some of the ESPN guys there, and they said the top actually jumped onto the car. Could be.

Yeah. At 5.30 in the morning, if you jump onto my car, I don't know if I'm going to casually pull over. I may pull over, you know, a few yards. So that was my take. That's a fair point. Those are all fair points. I appreciate the call. I think that's, you know, again, I think those are very rich.

reasonable points. I don't think I can think of a major event where the entrance is worse than it is here. The fact that you have to, I cannot believe you have to turn left against traffic. Yeah, that's pretty bad. And it's raining. It's dark. All those play a factor into this situation. The turning left against traffic, though.

I mean, like, that was, remember, that was the problem that the NASCAR race many years ago. what's that the Kentucky Speedway yeah the largest traffic jam ever when they went back and looked it was the fact that you had to turn left against traffic to get into the parking lots that that was ultimately what was the cause of it I haven't seen both sides of the entrance but the way I came in where people were paying to park in yards and there's not a good place to walk either it's not just the traffic there's not a lot of traffic and then you got people walking on the sides of the road right there people can pick up speed now it's hard to do it now because she can't so much traffic. But on a regular day, that can be a lot. Don Franklin, school's almost out, but the deals are just getting started at Don Franklin. Headed to your local dealership, Don Franklin Auto.com, the largest inventory of new, used, certified pre-owned vehicles with a local owner, Don Franklin Auto will help you make the vehicle of your dreams happen.

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Let me read a couple of comments and I want to tell you a quick story. One person writes, Matt, of course you would take up for Andy Mechere. He should have been on the phone, like Billy said, trying to make this work. This makes our state look bad. I'm adamant about this. Andy Beshear should have had nothing to do once he was arrested. Governor does not get involved. And when they do, that needs to be like, well, it needs to be almost never.

Yeah, I mean, you can't have him getting involved if everybody getting arrested, you know? No, and you can't have the governor choosing who's important enough for him to get involved with. That's a good way, and I'm sure there are governors that do this. Maybe he has it someone, I don't know. But no, you can't do that. Now, the mayor's a little different because the police are under him, but most people don't want the mayor involved in the day-to-day law enforcement. Do you?

Because people will say correctly, what does the mayor know, about being a police office. I know the police definitely don't want the mayor's involved. Now, the mayor's a little different. I can see an argument for the mayor going, okay, what are we doing here? Let's organize this. But the governor, to me, you know,

even maybe the attorney general, maybe. But the governor, you just... Or not the Louisville sheriff from Twitter. Yeah. Oh, you mean you have... Bell Sheriff. Mark Blankenbaker.

He definitely should have been involved. He's the sheriff of Louisville, for goodness. One thing I keep saying is people talking about how significant this tournament is to Kentucky. That's why I should have the tournament without Scotty. He's number one, and I love him, and he's probably going to win it. But this event could go on without any one golfer. So that's why I don't think you give him too much special treatment here. I will tell you, Shannon, I was very careful.

Okay. Yeah. So I pull up to the bus. They tell me we're leaving in one minute. It turns out we left 20 minutes later, but I didn't know. Right. I still was in flip-flops. Flip-flops?

Because my shoes, I left in the car, because it's wet, I wanted to wear grungy shoes. So long story short, I needed to put my shoes on. So I, like, nearly fall out of my shoes. I go running to the bus, forgot my press crudence. Oh, no. Kind of important. So now when we pull up there and I realize I don't have it, I'm like, I bet everybody's on high alert.

maybe so after the morning so I called our contact and if she hadn't answered I'd probably still be standing out there so that's how you got in Lindsay helping you out yeah if it wasn't for her I might not get out in at all because I definitely wasn't going to do

after what happened there weren't going to be any like trying to sneak in or anything Shannon like I was like I'll stand out here as long as I need to definitely couldn't pull the do you know who I am in that circumstance so I'm glad you got in though one person writes Matt Do you think this ends major events in Kentucky?

I don't know that the PGA was ever coming back here anyway. We've got to remember the PGA, the reason that started being at Vahalajru is because the PGA owned this course. So it didn't cost them any money to have it. And they built this course for major tournaments. Well, the PGA sold it two years ago. So I think this was the last one regardless. But if it wasn't, certainly isn't that. And I think the new ownership group was doing everything they could this weekend to make a good case.

Like, hey, don't forget about us. We'll still be fine, even though ownership has changed hands. But I would think this morning that did that in. There's somebody who loves the state, I hate this. You know, I hate it because it's going to, but. The national opinion, I'm sure it's already happening online. It's not going to be positive for us. It's just going to make Kentucky.

It's not going to be positive for us. And the thing is, the world will focus on it right now. but in two days everybody leaves they'll move on to something else then when the true facts come out and we know every piece of it everybody will have quit paying attention well that sounds familiar

isn't that we went through that on a much smaller scale oh we definitely went through that on the referee thing most people don't even know we won the loss I'm still waiting on a lot of Seth Davis I'll never like Seth Davis and Seth was my because Seth wrote that whole

story and when we won the suit I called him and said you are you going to write the story that that we won the lawsuit after you wrote a story that didn't just alleged it said all this stuff happened and he goes well it's just not as big a story now wow he responded with that yes

and I was like because you won't write it that's surprising from Seth honestly you think he'd be a man of character and a journalist at heart I don't know he's on TV a lot I said to him I was like you wrote the story saying all these allegations, you took them as fact.

The judge has said they were wrong. Aren't you going to write the story? He goes, well, it's just people. We've all moved on. I haven't moved on. I'm still waiting for him to write it. My bank account didn't move on when we had to pay those legal fees. They tried to move on.

Who's next? Donnie. Donnie. Go ahead, Donnie. Hey, Matt. I've got a question for all of you that I thought of it because you's going on your trip to England. But first question, would it be a good? Would it be a good idea to bet against Schepler today?

Okay, so that's a good question. He is now, he birdied, then bogeed, then birdied. So he's one under under day. So would you, I'll set the over under that he shoots four under today. Where are you going, Drew? Well, I made several bets on the shuttle over, so I'm on Scotty today. At four under, very wet out there. It's a tough line.

That's what he shot yesterday, I think. Yeah. I don't think he, I think it's right on it. I'll say it goes lower than 400, but it's close. Over under, quick. I already bet him to win today, so going under. I'm a top five. I'm betting against him.

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