KSR - 2024-06-14- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: June 14, 2024

Jack Pilgrim and Shawn Smith from Source Say Podcast take over to talk UK Basketball and shark attacks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am fantastic Jack Pilgrim. It's always a joy to do this with you. And this is our third time guest hosting Kentucky Sports Radio. We talked about it before. We had some layups the last couple of shows. We had Davian Mintz announcing was returned the day before the first time we did it. Last year it was Pete jammed. Practices were already underway.

It was very easy to kind of navigate those. But this time, you know, when we scheduled this, we didn't think that, you know, we didn't know what the College World Series schedule was going to be, didn't know that a historic run was about to be underway. That starts today for the folks out in Omaha. Kentucky starts Saturday, but the other games start today. So we're kind of in the middle of a whole bunch of stuff. I am coming off a vacation. We got some stuff to talk about with that. That's going to kind of start the show.

But until then, source say takeover on KSR is sponsored by T.J. Smith Law Office. call D. TJ, he will make them pay. We'll also be looking for the Don Franklin call the day, Kentucky branded tweet of the day. Then we will have the whiskey thief song of the day and also give us a call on the Clark's Pump and Shop phone line, 859-280-2287, or give us the text on the A-Vision text line. And that's with Ryan, so I don't even know what that would do. But you know, you have that number. If you want to go ahead and do that, we've got plenty to talk about UK basketball. Heavy show today. We will have special guests, Andrew Carr, coming on at 1140. We're very excited about that. Kentucky baseball gets rolling in Omaha. We got jello shots to talk about

all of the fun stuff. So obviously we're going to start this thing by talking about shark attacks because why not? Yeah, that's definitely a topic of conversation right now nationally. And I know you just returned from the coast. So you didn't get anything with a shark. There was no attack. So I'm glad you're all together here. Well, I wasn't. But unfortunately, some other people down the shore from me weren't. So, so I was down with a couple, couple friends from high school. You know, we've been friends for a long time. And, and we decided to go on like a little family vacation, my first trip with a little, little man, or eight month old, taking him to the beach for the first time, playing the sand, all that nonsense. And so we're just kind of, you know, drinking, having a good

time, soaking away in the, in the ocean. A little man gets kind of restless. We take him up for his afternoon nap. And my buddy, who was still down in the water, comes rushing up and goes, dude, you will have no idea what just happened down there. The lifeguards just ran across the shore and said, you guys need to get the heck out of the water. There were two shark attacks right down the shore like a mile away from where we were. So I was just blissfully ignorant, just floating in the water, like four or five drinks in, just couldn't, and not a single care in the world. Not having any idea that like actual shark attacks were a mile down, down the beach from where we were. where unfortunately it was pretty graphic and, you know, people lost limbs.

And there's one teenager that lost two thirds of her blood, ended up surviving. It was, you know, glad that everything worked out, you know, no, no deaths. But it brought, you know, it kind of led to the questions of, okay, if you were in a position to where you were in the line of fire for a shark attack, how would you respond, Sean? Because the rest of that vacation, unfortunately, it was like day two when we got down there. So we kind of spent the rest of the vacation going, do you get in the water? Do you, like, how do you respond from that? Would you be the type of person to fight off the shark?

Would you be the type of person to just freeze up and just let that sucker go ham on you? Or do you like rush back to the show? Like, what would your response be in that circumstance? Because that's what consumed the rest of my vacation the rest of the time. Well, it's funny because I actually saw a tick. talk yesterday that was talking about how to survive a shark attack and it said to look it in the eye that seems a little impossible right is it like an intimidation tactic but like it's a sneak attack right you have no idea that's coming am i just going to have my head underwater the entire time

looking for sharks no but i would punch it definitely wouldn't punch it in the mouth though because that's that's risky but try to poke its eyes for sure they say that's a sensitive like you're a bopping the nose do you square up with a shark how does how does that work i'd tackle it i would I would drag it to the coast. Like happy Gilmore taken on the, the gator. I feel like that would be what every, you know, you think in your head, that's how it would unfold. Man, I could beat the heck out of a shark. You got to think that you could, you know, not like a great way.

But like a little bull shark or hammerhead shark, you know, something manageable. I feel like I feel like I could beat up a shark. I don't know. Maybe I'm just stupid. At that point, the adrenaline's rushing. You know, it becomes a, it's a living. or dying situation. The worst thing that's ever happened to me at the beach is I got a school of jellyfish

that swim across my arm. And I don't know even, I don't even know if this is true, but they tell you to, like, pour urine on it. I don't know if you can pour urine on a shark attack, though. So, so the question I will be asking callers throughout the show, I need a percentage chance.

You're utmost confident as optimistic as you could be. your chances of surviving a shark attack. I got to know. Are you going to be one of those guys? A hundred percent chance. I'm fighting that thing off and I'm winning that battle. Are you one of those people that say zero percent chance? I'm going to freeze up and, you know, it is what it is at that point?

Or are you just not even going to be in the water to begin with? Are you, you know, have the shark attacks taking over the country? You know, is that going to push you away from the water? I want to hear from you 859-280-2287. Make sure you get those calls in. we are very excited to hear from each and every one of you. But we know that's not why you guys came here. I mean, it's why we came here.

But it's not why you guys are here. You guys want to hear about Kentucky basketball. You want to hear about the latest with Kentucky baseball. That was obviously something that was thrown into our lap. Very convenient. We were very, very happy. Just an unbelievable run for Nick Mingeon and the squad. Sean, just for them to get to this point, knowing what was at stake two years ago.

And the hottest of seats imaginable, I mean, it wasn't a hot take to say that, you know, probably time to part ways. For him to respond and get to this point where they're in Omaha, making history, I can't think of a cooler turnaround success story than that. Oh, it's, yeah, amazing, right? Because that program just a couple of years ago, you wondered where it was going to go. You build a brand new stadium. You invest in baseball. They weren't getting the results. Had a really, really good first year here. I've been trying to get back to that ever since. But that regional, year ago kind of built the momentum for this one. And we're talking about not getting layups on

the show. We've got a program competing to win a national championship in June. That's a layup. And on that note, third highest odds to win the whole thing. Like it's history because it's the first time in program history that they were able to do that. But they're not going there to just, you know, for a participation trophy. Yay, we made it. Congrats. Let's just, you know, build a statue back in Lexington. Now, they're still. You know, the main thing is the main thing in Omaha. They're still going to win a national championship. This isn't just a participation trophy.

They're going to win the whole thing. If you're going to make history, you're going to go do this. Why not go bring home the hardware on Omaha? So they're the third highest odds right now behind Tennessee and Texas A&M, which, you know, it's going to be an ACC versus SEC battle the entire way in Omaha. But, man, it feels like the magic is there for this. It feels like their year, everything has come together with the roster, with the chemistry, the antics, all the fun stuff. It feels like this is the team of destiny.

Well, and a lot of it was the lineup, right? We knew that this team could produce on that side of it, but it was the pitching, the pitching in that regional, the pitching in the super regional, like getting them to that point. And now you got some confidence there. Like, this is a team that can do it. Are we destined for Kentucky, Tennessee? Like, is that something that? Because look, this rivalry, these two fan bases, we talk about it in football, we talk about it in basketball, here and there in baseball, but not like competing for a national championship, that would probably be the ultimate Kentucky, Tennessee battle for sure. I can't wait.

So it starts today. You got North Carolina taking on Virginia starting at 2 p.m. on ESPN. We have Tennessee, Florida State in game 2 at 7 p.m. on ESPN. And then on Saturday, Kentucky gets things rolling against NC State, 2 p.m. on ESPN. We'll see what happens to me. It's going to be a blast. We are very, very excited for it.

Shout out to the Nick Mingione and the Batcats, having an absolute blast. Also, while they're out in Omaha, it's become the coolest, like, unique fan tradition to be at Rockos and win the Jello Shot War. And BBN, there was kind of this narrative going in that because this was Kentucky's first time out there, that they weren't going to show out. Like, this is basketball school, football,

school. They travel for those sports, but BBN, of course, is not going to travel all the way out to Omaha and participate in, you know, what, what is the third sport for UK athletics, obviously, you know, and couldn't imagine doing that. And of the, the jello shot war to start with, Kentucky takes an overwhelming lead, ends up settling in third place to close out the night. But for all of the talk about how BBN wasn't going to show out, it's almost like a dare, how if BBN has dared to do something, it doesn't matter what it is, they're going to show out and show up.

And it's really cool that they're in the competition for, something that seems as dumb as just a jello shot challenge out in Omaha. But they're there, they're competing. I hope that translates to an excellent fan turnout of these games. Yeah, jello shots in baseball in June, you know, in Omaha. Does it sound like too bad of a time? So, no, I would fully expect Kentucky fans to show up. And I'm interested to see what that crowd looks like out there.

I mean, it's the first time this program's got to take that journey. This fan base, they back their programs, man. We saw it when the volleyball team won a national championship a few years ago. Like, there's going to be a really good environment out there and a lot of blue in the stands for sure. And I think it helps as well, Nick Mngeon, being there before, 2013 as the runner-up in Mississippi State on that staff. So he's seen this. He knows what it, you know, the pressure and the, you know, pouring everything into this event. you like having a guy that even though none of the players have been there, it's kind of a new,

fresh experience for them for the guy running the ship to say, settle in, embrace the moment. He had a great quote. I said, I just remember coming here and thinking about there's so, a lot of things going on rightfully so. This is the mecca of college baseball. I just remember reflecting and talking to some of the folks that have been here since then about how to try to stay focus on the task at hand. It's a very similar message to our teams. You'll be pulled in a lot of different directions, but we have to keep the main thing, the main thing. This team has done a great job of that all year, but to be able to stay focused on the task at hand. That is to bring Kentucky its first ever college baseball national championship. So I like it. The vibes are immaculate.

I can't wait. You have the right guy leading the charge, somebody who's been there that knows the pressure that goes into this. Is Kentucky the national team right now that you think's kind of taken over? Like if you're not a fan of any of the teams in Omaha, is Kentucky the team that maybe the nations following. I know never would happen in basketball. And that's what Mijon said. He said, if you guys don't have a rooting interest right now, why would you not want to pick the team that hasn't been there? That's the kind of Cinderella story of the season. Because I mean, it's not like they're the Cinderella of the postseason because they've been arguably the best team in baseball all season long. So they

it's a season long Cinderella story of just kind of everything coming together at the right time. It's the team of destiny. Why would you not, if you are a casual baseball fan living out in Omaha in the area? It's such a national fan event where you don't have to be a team-specific fan. You can just be a fan of sports and want to show up because it's the College World Series. It's a historic annual moment. Why would you not want to pick Kentucky this team to be your rooting interest? Nick Mingeon is very outspoken about that saying if you want to pick somebody to root for,

You want to go eat a bunch of jello shots with a rooting interest of a specific school. Make sure it's our school. Absolutely. And I mean, like Nick Mingione is doing an excellent job promoting this program every single time he takes the mic. Been doing the same thing since they got out there. But a lot of those folks in that area, and it's the same as the NCAA tournament, the locals turn out. And there's going to be a lot of locals there. And if Kentucky can win a couple of games and keep advancing, the way Minggione speaks on the mic, man,

some of those people in that area, they're going to be Kentucky fans by the end of the weekend and going into the next week. We certainly are here back in Lexington. We're going to be rooting for the backcats on all week. Excited to follow along very closely. Excited to hear from you guys today, 859-280-2287. It's going to be an absolute blast.

We want to hear from you. What are your thoughts on shark attacks? Could you survive? What is your percentage chance? What are your thoughts on UK baseball out in Omaha? But our specialty, what we hope you guys are coming here for. UK basketball. We'll talk about rotations, roster,

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Gives call 859-280-2287. Jack Pilgrim here with Sean Smith. Sean, it took all of one segment for us to get our Kentucky brand of tweet of the day. Jordan Cooley says Cal was almost a victim of a shark attack. The team tried to warn him and he responded he hadn't seen him. And you left at that as you're reading it the first time, too. Well, so in my mind, as I'm reading it, in my head, I'm thinking, okay, well, we've been to the Bahamas several times. There have been opportunities for the team to be around water, you know, the, you know, ocean excursion and all that stuff over the years.

So as I'm reading and I'm like, oh, wow, was that a story that I missed over the years? And like, I'm reading and reading and like at the very end, I'm like, dang, I got got. The punchline hit me. Well done on that one. You get our Kentucky brand of tweet of the day. Sean, let's get rolling with the Kentucky basketball roster talk. Why hopefully you guys are tuning in right now. Jackson Robinson, the latest edition, number 12, the one that we all kind of been waiting for.

The one that tied it all together with a nice little beautiful bow that you felt good going into that. The 11 man group up to that point was good. but it was missing something. You were just waiting for that one guy that had the system familiarity, the guy that you could lean on to hit the big shot or go get you a bucket when necessary, just the gap filler.

You were waiting for that one final piece to really start dreaming big about this roster. You could see the vision going into it, but to dream big, I think you needed Jackson Robinson. What does that edition mean for Mark Pope and what he's trying to accomplish? Well, you mentioned that he's number 12, but when all this first happened, we probably thought he was number two, right, behind Travis Perry. We knew Travis Perry was going to stay in the fold, but it took a while to get there. But you and I took it through the spring, and we talked with each piece that was added to this roster, there was a vision of what the need was. And he was the need. I mean, you're talking about a guy that scored 25 points in an NCAA tournament game. Like, you need that on your roster. 90% free throw shooter a year ago can cash you in there. I'm interested to see what.

what the role is going to be rotation-wise with him. Coming off the bench last year at BYU, is that just a role that maybe Pope kind of pencils him into here? Because he's already done that. But then again, being the one guy that has played for Pope, played for the staff, done the things offensively, probably going to have to lean on him early. That's the biggest thing with this,

is they have somebody that's gone through the fire in the system that has done it, had success in it. Don't have that with the other pieces. So I thought that was the most important thing about it. And he had such a difficult decision to make, and Mark Pope went on a kind of a TV media tour yesterday where he talked openly about Jackson Robinson with a couple different people and just said that Jackson, you know, he could have stayed in the draft. He was going to get drafted, but you can't come back specifically to say,

I'm a first round pick. Like you, you want to have a guy that comes back with the right intention with the, I also want to come back because I have one season left. Why not do it at Kentucky? you know, do it for the right reasons, not selfishly just wanting to only put yourself in position to be a first round pick. And Mark Pope talked about that with a couple people saying that that was a really important part of this and that's what was so refreshing about the process that once it became clear that, okay, I'm withdrawing from the draft. Kentucky's my spot.

There wasn't a long, drawn out bidding war. There wasn't a who is going to promise me the most shots? Who is going to put me in position to be a, you know, potential first round. round pick. I'm a, you know, somewhere in the second round right now, who is going to be the one team that's going to put me in position to be a first rounder? Those conversations never, it never even got to that point. It was a quick and concise. I know BYU is offering me a, a bag. I know Kansas is flirting and, you know, wanting to get in there. But I, I know exactly what I'm going to get with Mark Pope. That familiarity is just so important, as you said, to somebody

you can lean on early and often as everybody else kind of figures out, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the uncharted waters for them. Yeah. For Pope, it's a lot of new faces, right? But we talked about this all spring with the way that he pieced this roster together and it's very strategic. And I even, well, you and I were talking to somebody, a parent of a player,

and they were even using the word strategic of how this roster was pieced together. So when you look at it with Jackson Robinson, you got all these other guys that the thing when you pulled apart, Pope has went after guys and landed guys that he, like not recruit against, but played against. Had to scout day in and day out in the Big 12. These are guys that have had success against him. And he's saying, okay, you've had success against me.

Now I've got respect for you. Now let's do it together. But Jackson Robinson is a guy that he's actually had success with. Having that to start the season when you're playing Duke, you're playing somebody early, somebody that you can lean on and play a lot of minutes through and maybe go to offensively while everybody else kind of figures it out and maybe like, look, all these veterans coming in, Jack,

they still got to figure out their role in this process. They've got a role in college basketball. They've played 97, 100 games. Some of them started 99 games, Kirkruisa. What is their role at Kentucky? Is it going to change? Yes, it has to for some of these guys. While you figure that out, you've got Jackson Robinson in the system who has had success in it.

That's a massive starting point for Kentucky. And you touched on it a little bit. Jackson being the seventh super senior that Pope has added. You don't want to have this revolving door of one and dunes on the, other end. I know everybody kind of focused on the one and done's with with Cal, but we're going to have seven one and done with this upcoming roster, but that was the way for a quick fix. The easiest way to win right away is by getting as old as possible guys that have been in the instant play tournament who has scored 25 points in a tournament game. That was the path

for an immediate rebuild where you can dream big about the championship expectation that Mark Pope has talked about ad nauseum. How important is that for the seven? seven super seniors to get those guys locked up with a nice little complimentary mix of guys with multiple years of eligibility. Well, we've talked about this a lot that he's got a window here. You're coming into a situation where your roster is in, I mean, you're starting over. Like, you're used to doing that at Kentucky, but not to this extreme. Like, this is super seniors starting over. And you said mixing in some freshmen and some other guys that you find value in that could have multiple years in this program.

But when you look at it, though, Jack, there, Kentucky basketball, it's, it's, It's not forgiving. So there's going to be some fire when you're losing games. Even though he's an alum, even though he's won a national championship here, there's going to be some fire if he loses a couple of games early. People aren't going to be like, ah, man, well, wait until next year. There's an understanding here that he's building something, but you also want to have the best chance to win right away at Kentucky,

and he's done that. Like this gives Kentucky the best chance to have success in year one. Loading up on super seniors, figuring it out. He's got guys that have made big. shots in NCAA tournament games. He's also got a couple of guys that in this system that I think can pop and go to another level. And if that happens, I think Kentucky can outperform some of the preseason expectations that they have.

Yeah. We're going to talk a little bit about Mark Pope embracing those championship expectations saying, yes, they're terrifying. We know that, you know, he comes out, it comes off the bus in front of a packed Rupp Arena crowd. It would have been so easy for him to just say, guys, I know you guys are raven. I know you guys are hungry, but this is going to be, you know, we're starting a brand new culture. I got to establish myself.

I got to build the culture. And he threw all of that in the dumpster. I mean, he could have taken the easy way out and immediately walked in and said, you know what, screw all that. I want you guys to demand the most success imaginable from day one. We'll talk about a little bit about that right after this. We'll talk about what Mark Pope is going to do with that 13th scholarship spot. Right after that, we will see them. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered.

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Although I didn't make a mistake, somebody tweeted it, DRC tweeted. You said earlier that none of the UK players had World Series experience daily transfer from Texas and played in the World Series. I was more so like the general idea of the leader having the experience and kind of, you know, leading the charge with a lot of guys who have. And I know it's a veteran-led team that that's how they got to this point by coming together at the right time. And, you know, but you just like to have the guy leading the charge, you know, capable of, you know, rallying the troops and doing what he's been able to do up at this point. So I know there are specific guys that have been here, but big picture speaking. Talked a little bit about the 13th roster spot. You have 12.

There's a lot of debate about how you would want to use this last spot. Pope initially called it a floating piece where, you know, we could take a guy who's, you know, going to be a five-year red shirt piece where, you know, you take a project on and say, we know you are not going to contribute year one. We know it's probably going to be a two, three, four year process before you finally find your groove and hopefully, you know, rock it into superstardom. That's the goal. Or you could take, you know, an international piece.

That's what, you know, Cody Figer kind of hinted at that saying, you never know which European prospect is going to become available in August, as we saw last season with Big Z. Those opportunities always kind of come out later on in the summer, reclass, possibilities are very, you know, peach jam is kind of a sweet spot for a lot of those guys that basically decide, you know, I don't have a lot to gain by another year high school. Why not just make the jump? You get into that tricky situation of do you take a guy who just wants to be forced fed with shots and minutes, knowing that he's the 13th scholarship piece? So it's a tricky

position to be in and I understand why Pope wants to kind of be patient with it. What is your take on that? And I'll give a quote that Pope kind of talked about. what his plan is as of right now. I think the pressure is off 13 because of what they were able to do one through 12. And Jackson Robinson being the 12th, I think it takes a ton of pressure off what you do with this last one because you don't really feel pressed to have to do anything to impact this current team. It can be, as you said, for a future piece.

It could be for a guy that maybe could possibly play his way into a role here, but you don't really have to have that need. So I think that everything that they've done has been so strategic, and that's the word that I'm going to keep using. I've used it all spring. I'll continue to use it all summer. Number 13 is going to be in the same form, same model. Whoever gets added, it's going to be for a reason.

It's not just to add somebody. They're going to be very intentional with who they take for that 13 scholarship. I just like that we're using 13 scholarships. Take advantage of all of them. You got them. Use them. And with this one, though, you can kind of have a holding pattern because you've got what you need. If you can add to that and get somebody that can help, great.

If not, you get somebody that's a reclass or something for the future, a guy that you can build and grow in your program, do that too. So I think Kentucky's in a unique spot here, but it's a comfortable position for Pope to be in with this. And he said yesterday, I told Bebeen tonight, we have one scholarship floating out there and we'll see whatever happens is going to be a little bit creative and it's going to fit really, really well. Will Riley is the one that, you know, in the short term, immediate one that we're keeping an eye on takes an official visit to Kentucky, seen as a kind of neck and neck race with Illinois in the Wildcats, Orlando Antigua leading the charge there. He loved Will Riley at Kentucky and just kind of continued where he left off. Going back to Illinois, a, you know, clearer role for him as a superstar. If he does have dreams of reclassing up, he would be draft eligible. in 2025. So it would make sense for a guy like Will Riley to, you know, go somewhere where he will have a bigger role and get the shots to become, you know, of the lottery pick that he hopes to become. That's where things get tricky for Pope. What is the, what is his priority?

Do you take a surefire lottery pick and say, man, that's just going to elevate our ceiling? Why the heck would we not take take a risk on that? Or do you take maybe a guy who, you know, that wants to reclass. but is going to be a multi-year, two-year guy. That's the tricky part. I think that I would like adding Will Riley, but I also understand the concern there of maybe not messing up what's already working really,

really well with this group. Yeah, because you've already got guys that are, you know, we know we're going to play in this roster. What does that do? Does it disrupt the rhythm of what you've already pieced together and some of that camaraderie? And I think they would figure it out if that's the way Kentucky goes.

but hey, this is the unknown that we have right now with Mark Pope, right? Load it up on Transfer Portal. Didn't really get to touch on high school recruiting since he's been here. This is the first swing at that. And that's what we're waiting to see. Can he recruit and land elite high school talent? And how does he blend that with Transfer Portal and guys that grow in your program and kind of you're able to retain there?

So who's the first big splash for Mark Pope? Does he make a splash with number 13? Or is this kind of just another strategic way that you try to add to what you've got or maybe somebody that can build and grow inside of this program because Jack, I think that that's something that you're going to see that's different moving forward.

You're going to be able to touch all areas of roster construction now. It's not going to be top heavy with guys that are going to be out the door after one year. You're going to get some NBA talent. You're going to get really good transfer players from the portal, but you're also going to be able to get bodies that you can retain and grow in your program.

And I think if you can touch all three of those areas and I think you've got a really good program. I kind of separated into three. different tiers. It was so important for Pope to land Colin Chandler, A, for continuity of that guy wants to play for me and he's following me. That was the first, you know, and he was the top 30 recruited. That was a I can land high school talent that, you know, I'm a wanted commodity as a coach. That was an important first skit. Jackson Robinson, I think, was the next tiered guy of, okay, that's your big fish in the transfer portal. You had Kobe, Kobe Brea, you added

some other key pieces, but Jackson Robinson was the anchoring piece that you really, really needed to get again for system familiarity and continuity. Those things were important, but you're still missing that Blue Chip High School. You know, and I think the staff knows that. Talking to some people around the program, that's what they're, they're navigating those waters right now with this 13th spot because they do love this 12-man group so much that they don't want to add a polarizing personality to muck all that up. You can't afford the one bad egg to kind of mess everything out, the one bad apple to mess everything else up.

So, but you also know how important it is to land your first big fish at the high school level. Will Riley would be that guy. We got our first top 10 guy. We're Kentucky basketball. Let's keep rolling. You know, we're not going to just recruit the top 10 players in the, in every single class moving forward like Cal did. But I can still land dudes that fit my system.

That is a super important, tricky, touchy thing that he has to deal with. And that, you know, that I understand the hesitancy there. And that's why even if you'd miss on Will Riley, he goes to Illinois, I think that's why you wait till after Pete James, see if there's a guy, you know, that's why I just keep coming back to Jasper Johnson, where he is emerging as the guy in 25, but he has some body work to do and needs to add some weight and kind of figure himself out. What is he going to get with another year of high school that he can't get with a UK? Strength and conditioning program knowing that he's on a two-year path. You know, I don't do. I think that's likely no, but that type of vision of, you know that he could be on a two-year path or find something similar with the international path.

And that's the creativity that, you know, we talked about that Pope said there. You can get creative with what you do at this last spot. So it's interesting to see, but look, roster one for Pope at Kentucky is going to look different than roster two, three, and four. because he had to do what anything, just to kind of be able to compete right away, they didn't have the blue chip talent that was available when he got this job. All those guys were taken.

They were already signed and going somewhere else. He loaded up with some really, really good college basketball players, got in-state talent, and then let's see what the blueprint is following year one. Year one is about what are we doing on the floor here. Are we establishing a system and a culture at what we want at Kentucky? and I think that that's being done now. Starting to get the callers in.

Let's go to the Clark's Pump and Shop phone line. We have Seth on the line. Hi. What's going on, Seth? Hey, not too much. This was my question's kind of from your guys that show the other day. With your bench press, what kind of shark would be your max bench press? I appreciate the call, Seth.

for the new listeners that are unfamiliar, we got a little hectic on the draft decision deadline show where we were waiting for Jackson Robinson's decision that never came. So we, you know, up through midnight, up through 1 a.m., 1.30 or whatever, we got really, really, really, really, really ridiculous there at the very end. And we ended up playing rock paper scissors.

One of the many ridiculous, dumb topics that we had were, you know, talking about whether or not we could bench press Pat Kelsey and how many of Pat Kelsey's we could we could bench press talked about his height and weight and just kind of you know measuring that so really ridiculous nonsense topic but it does beg the question Sean could could you bench press a shark and what what shark would that be would it be a baby shark a dwarf lantern shark did you Google the smallest sharks so a dwarf lantern shark is smaller than a human hand. Oh, you could, you could, you could use that as a dumbbell. Yeah, like Pat Kelsey. Is that, is that our shark equivalent of Pat Kelsey? That's our shark equivalent of Pat Kelsey.

I just don't know what the like the weight ratio is of like how much, Google for me, how much is a bull shark way? Because I feel like that's going to be something ridiculous, 400 pounds, you know, 500 pounds. Can't do that. Obviously just, but I need something scalable here. Between 200. and 500 pounds. Oh. Well, I mean, all right. The grips what's going to get you, though? Like, what are you gripping?

Are you going inside the mouth? That'd be a really cool photo. Like, be your last one probably. Yeah, man, that'd be. That would be you. You get attacked by the shark, but then you come out carrying it over your shoulders. Like a Greek god or something like, an Aquaman coming out of the water. Oh, gosh.

Well, so much for keeping this thing on the wrong. else because we're already very off great call uh they're there appreciate that set um i want to go back a little bit mark pope also talked about his championship demands and knowing just how scary they are and i want to you know see what you think about just kind of the approach sean and if you know he if if it's a right one he gets off the bus as we talked about to start the show says our assignment is to go win banners in in the final four win national championships that's our job and then he's followed it up after getting the 12-man group that we see today says if you know Kentucky, you don't really have an option. This is Kentucky basketball. You can try to go out there and

moderate expectations, but that's not going to be accepted by anybody. If you want to moderate expectations, don't take the job at the University of Kentucky. There's one thing that's expected here, and that one thing will seal your tenure as a coach here and as a player here. That expectation is to go win a championship. So he said it's terrifying for sure and it's daunting and it's humbling because you understand how hard it is. I'm not naive to understanding. So he knows that it's probably a, you know, a dumb thing to say that we're going to go win a national championship in year one.

But in my opinion, that's the approach you got to have. Because I would rather a guy who will swing until he falls down dead versus somebody who kind of takes the cushioned approach and says, well, let's, you know, let's take this one step at a time. try to build this culture first before we can kind of take this in three, four, five years, I'd rather a guy, you know, try to get to the finish line and die trying versus somebody who didn't give it his best shot at all. Yeah, shoot for the moon, catch a star approach, right?

Like you never know what you get. So I like that he isn't shying away from the expectations. My favorite thing about Mark Pope so far, though, has been the way he talks about Kentucky. it's we, it's us. And it's different though, right? Because when it was Cal and other coaches, it was BBN, it was Kentucky fans. And I get it. Like those guys didn't have Kentucky.

They weren't Kentucky before they got here. Mark Pope is Kentucky. He is Kentucky basketball. He's gone through the fire playing here. He's been Kentucky his entire career, his entire coaching career, his entire playing career. He's been Kentucky. So I think him saying we and us, he's not. just talking about this current team. He's talking about all this. And I think that's a really

cool approach. And that's a genuine thing that's just coming out of his mouth. That's not something that he's strategically doing. He's saying this is all us. This is all Kentucky basketball. We're in this together. And I think that that approach is kind of bringing, we know, Jack, that everybody has supported Kentucky basketball. Even through the frustration of John Calapary's tenure closing there the last four or five years, people still wanted Kentucky to win. At the core of it, you were a Kentucky fan, you wanted them to have success. But it feels like this has been a two-month process of just bringing everybody back into the same room. Yeah.

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Got a question from Twitter from Wildcats' Tongue. I wanted to ask you this, Sean. I think it's a good one. In your career, which recruit UK commit or not was the most frustrating to cover and which one was the nicest? The nicest is easy for me. And you and I've talked about this a lot. So when I was first getting into the beat, that was around Tyrese maxi.

in that class. And I'll tell you this. Tyrese Maxie is one of the nicest human beings I have ever interacted with in my entire life. And he is the only player to this day that I covered on any circuit, EYBL, 3SSP, any of it, that reached out to me after the weekend and thanked me for coming. That's awesome. And I remember when he left Kentucky, I did an interview with him as well. He got back to me ASAP. and that smile and things like what you saw of Tyrese maxi on TV is exactly what you get a Tyree smaxy in person. Yeah.

And like I just remember knowing that about him as he kind of went through his journey at Kentucky and then for him to become what he has as a max level contract player in the NBA, I think that is just the coolest. You know, one of the coolest UK specific stories because UK's had a lot of great guys to come through

but for him specifically to kind of go through what he went through for whatever reason, falling down the draft boards a little bit to put himself in a really good competing position from day one with the Sixers to becoming now arguably the face of the Sixers alongside Joel and Bidman. That's a guy who deserves every single bit of praise, but also every single scent that he has coming his way. One of the nicest, toughest guys that you'll see. Nice guy, man, he's tough.

Especially on the basketball floor. I remember it was his high school graduation. And I talked back and forth with his mom. And he hopped on the same day of his graduation to record with me for about 10 or 15 minutes before he got to Kentucky. I was like, man, what an unbelievable kid. Man, that's awesome. And I guess the most frustrating, there were a lot like Kate Cunningham was a really, really tough one because there was just so much. You know, when you're dealing with high school kids that are just navigating a brand new process,

the 16-year-olds that are trying to figure out what their future looks like and where would be best fit for them. And you commit privately to one staff and that leaks on one side. And then he goes and commits elsewhere. Like you get those were the most most frustrating. Cade was obviously up there. But I think honestly it's been tougher with the transfer portal area. I think these guys, when there's money involved, it's just fogged things up so much that, you know, you could, I mean, it could be minute difference between a kid being at one place versus the other. First hour flew by. I can't believe we're already done with this one. Back right after this.

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