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Welcome to this Thursday edition of Kentucky Sports Radio.
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Maybe, but that's for another time.
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But we are live today at Dave's Deli.
And I'm so excited about this.
It is literally walking distance from my house.
We're on Georgetown Road.
The address is 1045 Georgetown Road, Dave's Deli.
It's an extension of Red State Barbecue.
Dave Carroll, who's been a good friend of ours for years,
great advertiser on KSR for years and years and years, Red State Barbecue,
has opened up his own deli.
Right here on Georgetown Road, Drew, I am so excited.
This place is here, and I can't wait.
to try it out. Yeah, A, I was surprised to see your car here. I fully expected you to have walked over
from your house. So when I pulled up your car was here, I was surprised. But also, I mean, everyone
knows how good Red State barbecue is. It's a Lexington stable at this point. But now he's got the
grab and go sandwich deli over here for everyone on this part of town. If I lived over here like you did,
this would be a frequent stop for an easy, cheap lunch on the go.
Billy and I talked on the pre-show about our favorite sandwiches. What's your favorite sandwich?
Well, I was getting the breakdown earlier. Yeah, Dave kind of gave us the breakdown of all of his
favorite sandwiches. I love chicken salad. And if the chicken salad is like mayonnaisey,
I love it. That's why it's going to be my go-to-y. Aren't you a Dagwood guy, though? You like
to go to the beach and eat a Dagwood sandwich? I do. Yes, like the turkey club. That's probably
to be very high on my list. He said the chicken salad is with their smoked chicken, and it's his
wife's recipe. I'm sold. I don't need the way. This is the wife's recipe. How can you not get that?
I know, exactly. He was bragging on his meatball subs.
The Alfredo Mac sounds delicious.
Yeah, the sides is unbelievable.
You got Italian pasta salad, tortellini pasta salad of Alfredo Mac.
I guarantee you that Alfredo Mac and Cheese is great because the mac and cheese at Red State Barbecue is like awesome.
It is so good.
So I guarantee it's good.
So come out and see us and maybe grab a lunch on your lunch break.
There's a ton of these factories over here.
Amazon, UPS, FedEx, Link Belt, all these places right over here.
They can come over here and out, get a little box lunch.
The post office is right across the street.
Yeah, you got to have lunch somewhere.
Why not have it right here at Dave's Deli?
Dave's Deli.
I used to live over here.
I might move back.
I missed the block.
Hey, this side of town.
The moment I left.
Don't sleep on this side of town anymore.
The moment I left, stuff just started popping up.
There was like a Drake's across the street from up.
The moment I left.
You have a Drake.
They're putting a Publix down here at the corner of a citation in Georgetown Road.
You were sitting on Master's sensation for years, calling it the world's biggest neighborhood.
hood. It just needed some stuff around it and now it's
finally showing up. Got the Clark's
pumping shop. Got two of them, Billy.
We're so big. We've got two Clark's Pumpin' shop. Now just make sure you know
which one you want to go to. That's true. Ryan.
Or you may have to end up walking to it.
Ramsey's has opened up out here. So now we have
Dave's Deli as part of it. So coming out
and be a part of it. I think we've got to start with a little basketball.
Yeah. We started with football yesterday.
Well, I guess it was Tuesday.
And one of the questions on the A-Vision Glass Text Machine
was, you guys all talked about what would
you be satisfied football wise? Well, he asked, or she, what would you be satisfied basketball
wise? Not March Madness, regular season. What would make you happy when you come to
the basketball scene with Mark Pope's new staff, new team, new everything? What would make you
happy? What would not make you happy? I think if you look at the basketball season.
I'm already, you know, we don't lower our standards at Kentucky, but I mean, it was building a roster
in one month.
So they're going to have a little bit of room in my brain to get it going early on.
I mean, they played Duke right away.
We talked about Cooper Flagg yesterday.
I want to win that game so bad, but that's going to be a big challenge.
As long as they're – I don't want to strike out on all those marquee games.
You got Gonzaga, what all we have?
Duke.
You're going to New York to play Ohio State.
Win two of those contending the SEC.
I think winning it this year is going to have a lot to ask.
Unless this team proves to be really good and they can, it's just so unknown with so many pieces.
but Alabama looks a little pretty loaded.
Finish being contentioned to win the conference.
Hopefully win it.
Again, I'm not trying to lower the standards here.
I want them to win everything.
But if they were to be in the mix at the end of Pope's first year in the conference
and just win a damn postseason game.
Is that too much to ask?
Just get to the weekend of the SEC tournament.
If I'll wake up on Saturday in Nashville and we're still in the tournament,
that is a win.
We haven't done that in a while.
We usually Saturday morning.
We wake up, pack up, and go home.
Again, I'm not trying to make Kentucky something.
It's not because we're wanting, we want to win the
SEC Championship, and we want to win the NCAA championship, and I'll be rooting for that and
hoping they pull it off, and maybe they have the potential to do it.
But just for me to be happy over the course of this first year, win one of those big marquee
showcase games early in the season, get it going, and don't have your UNC Wilmingtons.
You're going to lose some SEC games.
SEC's tough.
Be in the mix at the end of the year in the SEC.
I guess that's not a specific record for you.
But that would make you happy.
Yeah, I mean, if they don't win the conference, I'm not going to be a, you know, be a
upset. I have a little understanding of the circumstances.
But at the same time, it is Kentucky, and I'm not
just going to be like, okay, we're going to start doing
moral victories. So that's kind of a long
way to answer. But I guess win some of the big ones
to know we still got it and got it with
Pope and be in the mix.
Shannon, what do you think? Let's start with
beat Arkansas. And be
nerdy, Pat Kelsey, and Louisville.
And anything over
20 wins, I think, would be good
for Mark Pope's first season. You know, in the regular
season, we're talking. I agree
with Drew on the SEC tournament.
Mark Pope realizes how much the SEC tournament means to the fans.
I think he values that tournament.
So I think to make it to the championship game would make me happy,
even if they don't win the SEC championship in the tournament,
at least get to the title game, right?
It's better than losing in the first round.
And then as far as the NCAA tournament,
I mean, we've talked about how random the NCAA tournament can be,
but I think in his first year with this team that he has thrown together so quickly,
I think if you make the sweet 16, if you make the second weekend,
I don't want to say that that's going to be.
to be, you know, that they're selling, but I think that would make fans happy in their
their first season.
We've had several years of being ranked in June, having the draft, being all the talk
of the fall, you're the talk in December, you win a big game in January, and then you are
absolutely nothing in March the last five years.
I mean, the graphic of the teams that have won the most games in March, like Kentucky's
like one of the little small logos down there.
So now, okay, we're 19th, whatever.
That's completely different.
People are upset about that, but I'm thinking at least it's different.
Maybe we'll go from 19th to first instead of first to 19.
Or heck, maybe they'll go the other way.
We have no idea.
This is all so brand new.
But for me, my excitement is just in being different.
And I'm not saying it's better or worse.
It's just something new.
I feel before Billy goes real quick, you know, I think last year a lot of people were saying elite eight or bus with Cal's team going into that season.
So I feel like if we said elite eight or bus, we're pope in his first year, that would be a little bit unfair.
Although they could make it there.
I think Sweet 16 is probably that cutoff line.
I think overall it's second weekend of the NCAA tournament,
but if you're asking me regular season,
I'll piggyback a little bit of what Shannon said.
I've got two games circled.
One is Arkansas with Cal.
Absolutely.
The other's Western Kentucky at home.
I mean, that is a marquee match up early.
They've been the second best team in the state
because Louisville's won 12 games in two years.
I'm glad that they're welcoming them back to Rupp Arena.
And if you can beat the tops,
then I think that you can get optimistic about a really good season.
But as we've learned with Cal,
the regular season does it really matter?
We've got to win games in Rupp.
Western Lipsom, all of them.
I mean, if they start dropping some of those, that's bad.
I mean, they're good enough to win games and Rupp in the non-conference.
I'm looking at more of the showcase games because going to Seattle play Gonzaga,
that's a tall task for the team in the country.
Yes, it is.
Playing Duke in Atlanta, that's a tough.
Ohio State in New York.
Got to get that one probably.
Hopefully we travel.
There's a new excitement.
That's a city.
Kentucky fans love.
Pope loves.
It's Ohio State.
It's Aaron Bradshaw.
It's Joel Johnson.
Justice. That will be a little bit of a gut punch if they were to lose that. That's one you got to win. I don't care how good Kentucky is. They're better than Aaron Bradshaw, Joe Justice, Ohio State good. And that'll be a game. I think there will be a lot of attention around. I think people will travel, even though it's kind of close to Christmas. That's one I want to win. I guess they won that one last year, Carolina and Atlanta. But other than that, these New York trips and CBS Sports Classics haven't been going well.
No, they haven't. If Kentucky starts losing non-conference games at home, we're going to take that new floor down to State Street. We're going to be.
burn that floor because that is a curse.
That is true. Well, I think you guys have hit on exactly how I feel.
You've got to beat Arkansas at home. You have to. I mean, that's, that you, you have to.
You can't lose to somebody at home. You're not supposed to.
Now, you may drop an SEC game on the road in February, you know, you're on a 9 o'clock
tip off at Ole Miss or something. You may, you know, you may drop that.
But you can't lose any of these home non-conference games at Rupp Arena. You just can't.
Got to protect.
Last year we thought was a really special, hell, they were a really special group.
It just didn't, that game sucked.
But, I mean, they lost three games in a row in Ruppering.
And that has never happened in addition to UNC Wilmington before that.
So, I mean, this team will probably lose some games in Rupp, hopefully more than one or two in SEC play.
But it's the UNC Wilmington and the Lipscomb.
Those should not be close.
We even had a few games in years past that they won, but, like, didn't Yale almost win?
Yeah.
Like, down at the half.
That stuff needs to stop.
It's Kentucky basketball in Ruppering.
in those non-conference games. You don't lose non-conference games at home in the month of
November and December. You just don't. And in the old formula, a lot of that was because they were so
young and freshmen, that excuse is gone. I mean, yeah, it's true. We went to high school with some
of these guys on the team, so they should be ready to go once the season starts. Yeah, Billy's their
age. Billy, some of these guys are as old as Billy and Mario, I think, most of the time. Oh, maybe
Mario, I'm getting up there in age now at 29. He's almost 30 years old. Yeah, big 30 next year.
Okay, never go back to our topic. What makes you feel old when Billy says he's almost 30?
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And I kind of agree with what you guys said.
You know, get to the weekend of the SEC tournament, get to the sweet 16 weekend of the NCAA.
I just want to unpack my back.
Last night, USA played Canada, when we're talking basketball, in an Olympic exhibition game.
Kind of a low-scoring game, like 86 to 76 or something like that.
kind of surprised me that
but yet
the Kentucky guys
seemed to the
the county guys seem to play
just as good as the Kentucky
get the three Kentucky guys
Yeah it's six Kentucky guys in that game
Which is wild
They all looked good
Really Booker is the one I'm watching
I think we're not talking about enough
About Booker and what he can be on this Olympic team
He's even said I'll rebound
I'll stand in the corner and shoot open threes
I'll do whatever they want
I'll be your glue guy
And he was kind of doing that last night
He was playing amazing defense.
I didn't know Booker really played defense.
I didn't either.
I think when the Olympics are over and if they're standing up holding gold,
I think we're going to be saying Devin Booker was a huge part of that.
Got to win the gold, though, right?
I mean, that's the expectation.
Talk about the expectations for Kentucky basketball for the USA team.
You've got to win gold.
They've got such a good team put together.
I mean, I don't see any reason why they couldn't.
Six Wildcats were in that game.
And I didn't get to watch a lot of it, but I watched the beginning.
And, Shea, man, he is just so good.
He really is a superstar in the end.
NBA and now doing great things for Canada too.
So that's what I'm going to ask you, come back after the break.
If we had a three-on-three tournament and you had the three Olympians on the United States team,
Bam Out of Bio, Anthony Davis and Devin Booker, against Shaggutis Alexander, Jamal Murray, and Trey Liles.
You guys think about that during a commercial break.
We're going to debate.
Who would win that in a three-on-three game?
Before you go, because I think it's important as media, did you see what Dylan Brooks did to Devin
Booker?
I did see that.
I did see that.
What would you do if you were interviewing a Kentucky player in someone
did that or someone from another team.
For people that don't know, Devon Booker's doing an interview.
They have the microphone sticking out, and Dylan Brooks from Canada just walks in between
them for no reason to interrupt it, just being a jerk.
You're on live TV.
You can't be a jerk on live TV, but as soon as that camera shuts off, you can be like,
hey, man, come on, dude.
You know, you got a...
And he knew what he's doing.
He absolutely knew what he's doing.
Bob Knight did that a couple times, like when they were doing the halftime guy with
the reporter the sideline.
Bob Knight would just walk right in between the camera guy and whoever was on the
sideline. You should have bopped him with the microphone. There it goes right there, yeah. Booker actually
played it well. He didn't even want to give him any attention at all. He just kept answering
his question. You got to play it that way. You got to play it that way. And then you could say
something to him maybe afterwards. I imagine a young Ryan Lemon would be frustrated at that too.
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All right, welcome back. Ryan, Dreamt.
Shannon and Billy R. Sports here at Days Deli on Georgetown Road.
1045 Georgetown Road. It's right by the Red State Barbecue catering offices.
Come by, you can pick up a box lunch. You can DoorDash your lunch from here,
so we'll be talking a lot more about that coming throughout the day,
but I do want to read this from the A Vision Glass Text Machine.
Shannon, that new floor is a curse. Come on.
Since KS. Bar has gotten that stupid, oversized NCAA tournament bracket,
we haven't made it out of the first week.
Ah, so it's the bracket. Well, we can take that and throw it.
in there with it. I agree. Let's burn that bracket to go along with it.
If we're going to look in the mirror, let's be honest, it's not the bracket. It's the bar.
We open the bar. No, we haven't won since the bar open. Hey, but we beat that was the 2020 year.
So, yeah. We're the people that opened a bar right as COVID was about to start. But we have not had March
Madness at KS. We haven't. We've had a lot of pallets of beer go bad. Yeah.
We have not had a March Madness. All right, before the commercial break, I ask you guys to kind of
ponder. If they had a three-on-three tournament, you got the three United States Olympians,
Bam out of bio, Anthony Davis, and Devin Booker, playing three on three now against the three Canadian Olympians.
Shea Gildes Alexander, Jamal Murray, and Trey Liles.
Who wins that three-on-three matchup?
It's America, right?
I mean, you got the good shooter with Booker, and then you've also got Anthony Davis and Bam out of bio down low.
Who's going to – I mean, nobody can match up with those two guys, right?
So I think that's your answer.
Well, not a lot of dribbling on the USA squad.
I mean, you have Bam and Davis.
I guess Booker's going to do all the ball handling.
All the lobs, I think you mean.
Two down low and one shooter.
I mean, that's there. That's true.
I think I might lean USA too, even though I'd say SGA and Jamal Murray would have a lot of fun with that.
It is a game where if Shea and Murray got hot, it could be just be, it wouldn't matter who's through their playing.
Exactly.
But I think at a best of seven, size wins out.
Bam and Anthony Davis can guard the small ball, but it can't guard them back.
Booker can get the outside shot and just, you know, size will win out.
overall, but I mean, I think it'd be a close game.
And Canada could win a couple if
Murray and Shea wanted to take over.
See, I'm with you. It's closer than most people would think.
Because who's going to guard Shay
and Jamal? You guys talk about who's going to guard Bam
and Anthony. Devon Booker can't guard
both of them. He can't guard probably one of them.
So you're saying they're just going to shoot threes.
Just shoot threes over
the lob of a two-pointer.
Also, we're going half-quarter full. Is this big three?
It's just half-quarter.
If we go full, I might even, Canada might be able to run a little more.
We'll see. I really, I love Trey.
I think he's just a weak spot here on Team Canada.
Yeah, he is.
I think you have five elite players and one good player in this equation,
and that gives USA the edge.
Trey Liles is one of those guys, I forget, is still playing in the NBA.
There are three Kentucky players on his team.
He's with Fox and – no, wait, he's moving again, hadn't he?
He moved again?
I'm not sure, actually.
I'm behind on my – he was with Fox and Bam, right?
Fox and Monk.
Yeah, Monkry signed, so that's a big deal.
But Trey is no longer on that.
I should – I have no idea.
He was with them.
He could still be –
Don't look for me.
for information on where he is right now. We do have breaking news. I don't know if Matt can do it or you want to do it.
I don't have the button. No, you can do that. The noise. There it is. The UK non-conference basketball
schedule was just released since we started this show. As we were talking about the regular season.
It was released. They released the non-conference regular season schedule. So we'll break it down for us, Bill.
Yeah, I'll run through it here. It starts on November 4th versus Wright State at Rupp.
Now, while you run through it, let's all do winter loss. Okay. Let's make a little extra.
Okay, so Wright State at home November 4th.
That's a win.
It better be a win.
Bucknell at home November 9th.
That's another win.
I think that'll be a tough game, though.
I think, you know,
Bucknell is traditionally a good three-point shooting team.
I don't know what kind of team they got this year.
Looking at him being a state a game, too.
On the Bucknell bandwagon over here.
I was saying it could be closer than what we're giving them credit for.
I think they win, though.
November 12th is versus Duke in Atlanta.
That's a loss.
I hate to say it.
I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say loss.
Cooper Flag was made in a laboratory.
I think that playing Duke is what Kerr-Kri-Cresa was born to do.
Amen.
And the things Duke has done to schools forever,
where they have these hateable players that get in your face,
you're at home, you're yelling at your TV,
you want to punch these guys.
We finally have that guy,
and we're going to hit them with their own medicine.
So I'm taking Kentucky on November 12th in Atlanta.
And Andrew Carr has already played against Duke.
That's right.
He's not intimidated, so I'm going to say it lost, though.
That is the hardest game of the year.
The next three are a part of the BBN Invitational.
Oh, I love it.
Wow.
The old used to be the Bill Kightly Invitational, the Kewood-Ledford Invitational, the Big Blue, whatever, invitational.
So who we got this year?
So you got Lipscomb on November 19th.
David Lipscomb.
David Lipscomb.
We got it.
November 22nd, it's Jackson State.
That's a win.
And then November 26th, it's the Western Kentucky Hilltop.
Oh, that's a huge win.
We're going on three.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Pick with your head, not your heart.
Since I still can't name the Westwood.
question's head coach. I think I got to go Kentucky here.
But I'll be rooting for the time. And they lost Dante Allen to
Wyoming. They did. Also, Lipscomb.
I feel like that might be a Mee-Maw game. You know, B.BN, we love M-A-M-M-A.
Yes. She gets in a game. Kays. We might have to mic her up.
But grandson Aaron Fleener is the Lipscomb Bison. So I suspect
that might be a M-M-A-M-A getting in, having some fun there.
November 29th is Georgia State at home.
That's a win. December 3rd is at Clemson and the SEC-ACC challenge.
That's a win. I think they go up to you. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going
loss.
You've got a loss to Clemson.
I have been to.
You pick them to beat, dude, but lose to Clemson.
I have been to Little John Coliseum.
The East Side Boys were not there, but Little John was there.
That is a tough place to play.
They're going to be very excited.
It will be our first true road test.
Clemson had a great year last year.
Yes, they did.
Their head coach is from Evansville, Indiana.
He's an Evansville Harrison grad.
That's right.
He's been there a long time.
All-time winning his coach there, if I'm not mistaken.
Evansville is a little bit better than everybody is.
Kentucky Beach.
We shock everybody in Atlanta.
We're riding high, but then we just take a little bit of hit in our first road test.
Clemson.
First real road test.
That's fine.
It's just the magic of Little John will be too much to overcome.
I'm picking Kentucky.
Go ahead.
So after the SEC ACC challenge, it's December 7th versus Gonzaga in Seattle.
The battle for Seattle.
See how crap?
I didn't know we were four days later going to Seattle.
So you're going to pick a win?
I can't have it's going back.
No chance we're losing in Seattle.
So you say lose the Clemson,
beat Gonzaga NCF.
Yep.
I'm getting real reckless over here.
Cal can't beat Gonzaga, but Pope can.
I think Kentucky wins.
Pope from the great state of Washington.
That's true.
How about that? Homecoming.
Homecoming game?
Yes.
What's traveling across the country?
I feel like he does that every day these days.
He'll be fine.
Players will be fine.
Gonzaga.
We saw last year the Gonzaga dynasty.
If you're looking at the chart like a stock,
kind of getting a little red, kind of going down.
Yet they beat Kentucky on their home floor last year.
New Era.
New Era, Ryan Limited.
We don't have one single player left on that team.
We went in Seattle.
After that is December 11th versus Colgate at Rupp Arena.
Good toothpaste.
I have Colgate toothpaste at home right now, as a matter of fact.
Did you use it this morning?
I did.
Well, you looked at it.
Three more.
December 14th is versus the Louisville Cardinals at Rupertina.
I cannot wait to see Mark Pope meet Pat Kelsey at Midcourt.
That is a photo I want framed in my house.
I want Pope to walk in with the football helmet on
And I want Pat Kelsey to walk in with the astronaut helmet
Oh my
Battle of the Dorks
You mean the Daff Punk helmet
Yeah, he couldn't afford an astronaut helmet
Kentucky wins that one
Yeah Kentucky wins that one easy
Might be the biggest blowout on the non-conference
A week later December 21st is versus Ohio State in New York
In the CBS Sports Classic
Last one you were talking about
This is the one we can't lose
It's the game before Christmas
We can't go to Christmas morning
Had it just lost a game
It's New York
It's a couple of our old foes and Joel Justice, not foes, but old faces, and we're going to get that done.
And December 31st versus Brown at Rupp Arena wraps up the non-conference schedule.
That's another win.
All right, we'll take our break.
We come back.
Devin Key will join us.
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All right, welcome back. Ryan, Drew
and Shannon here at Dave's Deli on
Georgetown Road. New Delhi that just opened, what he said?
Three weeks ago? Think so, yeah.
Three weeks ago. So come on in, get your deli sandwich,
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Joining us now is Devon Key, member of the Denver Broncos.
And Devin, before we get started, I tell you, man, congratulations.
Appreciate it.
Daddy again for the second time.
Daddy times, too.
Yeah, a little Drew born, was it two weeks ago?
Two weeks ago now, yeah.
So he's got a two weeks checkup coming up tomorrow.
So, yeah.
Everything is healthy, though.
And what's his name?
Drew.
Oh, I appreciate that.
He needs a lot.
D.R.U.
Yeah, we might smile a little different, though.
Some DRUs.
They're all D's.
They're all D's.
Dantes, Devin, Dane, Dresce, your oldest son, and now,
Through.
Here you go.
Congratulations.
So congratulations.
What is your status?
Like how long, much longer are you here?
And when do you have to go back for the Broncos?
So I leave July 21st, 22nd.
Kind of went on feel like getting out here.
But we report everything like being this stuff is the 23rd.
So got about another week.
So it's trying to work out, kind of stay in shade.
So I hit camp healthy and running.
Well, you timed this baby perfect right here during your off season.
You timed it perfect.
Baby born two weeks ago while you're home got to be here for it.
So that's pretty cool.
It's been nice.
Yeah, just being back for it and getting to spend time with a little man.
And, you know, got to spend about another week with him and then head back.
So hopefully, you know, Kristen hills up a little bit more.
So she can lift the stroller and push him around and deal with Drace.
We were talking a little bit during the break.
You know, Ryan has known you since middle school, you said.
So I'm imagining Ryan in the backyard throwing the football with you.
Has he tried to take credit for any of the success that you've had in your career?
That sounds like a Ryan thing he would do.
Maybe a little bit of high school, you know, on the baseball,
on the baseball field, stealing bases and everything.
Heardy.
Stolen base king.
Yeah, got the record for stolen bases.
So, yeah, give him a little pointers.
And listen, not only did he have another baby wife's home, got engaged while he was.
You've had a heck of an off-season here.
It's been busy.
So I decided to just do it right now.
I feel like it was perfect time as far as, you know, the right time for, you know,
busy right now yeah so it was good big summer went yeah went to Jeff Rubies
did it the right way you know did it all the right way just trying to yeah so you and I
talked about this during the break there are currently four guys from Lexington in the
NFL right now right Jed Wills with Browns Landon Young Saints lucky Jackson
Vikings all three Lafayette guys by the way yeah that's kind of crazy they're all three Lafayette
guys and you with the Broncos from Brian Station right and in the next couple of years there's
going to be four more with Jagger Burton, Walker Parks, Ty Bryant, and Dane?
Should be, yeah.
Why all of a sudden is Kentucky, I mean, Lexington, just Lexington, producing all this NFL
talent from our, right here in our own backyard.
How has that happened?
I mean, I think it's just them growing up together kind of, just them being at our games,
kind of see how we practice, how we play, kind of took the game serious as far as, like,
workouts and the offseason, and just being a multi-sport athlete, just how.
Having that will to want to, you know what I mean, to go out there and perform at the best of their ability and just have that talent.
Obviously, it's from their parents as well.
Just having that God-given ability to be athletic, to be as big as they are, like the linemen.
But yeah, it's special just to have those guys come out of Lexington and, you know, be able to have this opportunity to play a high-level D-1 ball and then have the chance to go to the NFL.
Because really I was thinking about it, there's about a, you've got to go back 20 years, like when Eric Shelton, I think Chase Minnefield.
When they had that stretch of a couple guys that came out.
Yeah.
But then there's nothing.
There was nothing.
Now a sudden there's a big surge in football talent out of this town.
What is the difference between playing college as far as an athleticism, as far as speed of the game, going from college to the pro level?
I mean, it's got to be a big change.
Yeah, I would say just the mental aspect, being able to have the knowledge of the game.
Football IQ is a big thing in the league.
Just being able to go out there and, you know, learn from your mistakes.
Don't make the same mistake more than once.
Be able to take coach really well because, you know, that's your job now.
That's all you have to focus on.
You don't have to focus on school anymore.
So just being able to tune in to film to correct yourself, be your harshest critic.
I'd also say just be able to, like, the recovery aspect of everything,
Just take care of your body.
Like I said, it's your job now.
So any little chance that you get to get a massage or hopping the cold plunge or anything that you can do, stretching, just be able to take that to the next level.
Sure, nutrition is a big thing, too, right?
It's probably hard when you're in the off season not to eat.
Stuff is unhealthy.
Which, I mean, they say that, you know, having everything in moderation, but, I mean, we're doing so much that, like, sometimes you can eat what you want just because you're going to burn it the next day.
But, yeah, definitely nutrition is a big thing.
to the main focus in the league as well.
Later this month, you'll be in Denver at the facility.
I mean, top of the top level you could get to.
But right now, as I said, Lexington, how are you taking care of yourself around here?
Do you have a routine you're doing?
Does the Broncos send you something you go by?
Or you just kind of on your own to stay in shape while you're home?
They do send this stuff, kind of a workout that we can follow along with.
But for the most part, I like to do kind of my own thing because I know how my body functions
and how it works. So kind of know how I can go into camp healthy. As far as like the eating
wise and stuff like that, I just take kind of what I've learned over like the course of college
and just my time in the league just to bring it back here and kind of follow the same, you know,
wake up, eat breakfast because, you know, get the day starting right, then work out and lunch,
then, you know, just real kind of healthier meals. That way I'm not just going back to camp
out of shape. They do have a fine system for, so they give you a weight when you leave
OTAs and if you come back overweight, you have to pay, I think it's like $800.
Whoa.
Per pound?
I'd be in front until you lose.
Oh my goodness.
Every day?
I don't think it's every day.
I think it's probably every week, so weigh in.
Oh, my.
Yeah.
That's a little extra motivation to lose that weight.
Now, you know, growing up over here in Master's, you know,
station, you were kind of the big brother for everybody.
All those kids in the neighborhood,
Devin was the big brother, even for my boys,
all the neighborhood boys.
What's been your role as Big Brother for Dane,
and it's his development.
If you've watched him and helped him,
what do you think has been your best attribute in your role?
Really just being there for him,
you know, going to work out with him,
working out with me.
He's kind of see how I was doing things in high school
when he was, you know, elementary school,
and then going to college, still having that same drive.
But now he's kind of learned, you know, to do it himself.
So obviously I'm not always here, so he's done a good job of, you know,
taking that upon himself to just have that extra drive and self-motivation
to go and work out on his own even when, you know, stuff isn't mandatory over there.
Well, that's true because, like, you know, when you go to work out with Ted over there a lot of time,
when you were in college at Western Kentucky Bill, you know, you got a Western Kentucky Hill topper right here,
toppers, toppers, toppers.
Two in the building here.
you know, he would dry with you, you know, and work out with you when he was in middle school and you're in high school or when you're in college and he's in high school.
Yeah, I think that was a big thing. He always wanted to go with me and, you know, hang out with my friends.
So just being around us, just seeing kind of how we approach things.
It kind of just, he stuck with it. And I think that was big for him, especially going out over to Ted's.
Like shout out Ted over Operation Athlete.
Got to give him a quick shout out real quick because I've been going to him for a while now.
I think he's really prepared me and then Dan going over there when he could.
It's been good.
Yeah.
I think he's doing well.
I know you're proud of him.
Yeah, for sure.
What is his future, you think?
Yeah, I mean, he's got two more years left to college.
Well, according to him, he says one year later.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He's got two guaranteed.
Two guaranteed.
Could be one, who knows.
I think he just has to go out there and not worry about anything this year out on the field.
just kind of do what he knows how to do.
Looking for a thousand yards a season from him,
and everything else will play itself.
To get where you are, you have to be laser-focused and super competitive.
But you had to have had a moment at some point where there was the first phone call
or the first time you put the helmet on where you're like,
holy crap, I'm in the NFL.
Was there a specific moment like that?
So after I left college, just training for the draft and everything,
kind of got some phone calls, some Zoom calls from like,
NFL team. So I'm like, okay, this, you know, it's a little different. Just this is what I've been
dreaming about. And, uh, then it came like draft day. So obviously, uh, day one is like the first
round. And day two is like second and third round. So day three is when I was, you know, hoping to
get a call and everything, uh, because I wasn't, uh, really projected to go high. And then,
uh, just pretty much waited all day and then didn't get the call to get drafted. So it kind of,
kind of hurt. But then I got a, uh, got a call for, uh, like a prefer free agent, uh, deal.
with the Chiefs and that's kind of when it like hit like I'm actually doing it you know
I'm saying I'm this dream I've been chasing is kind of here so then when I got there to
Kansas City it kind of kind of kind of all kind of hit at once like all right now I
got to put this helmet on what I've seen on TV you know they just just won the Super Bowl
like all right like let's go and the same question I'll ask with Dane I mean you come from a
long lot of athletes in your family so you've been around your whole life
but where there's a moment where you're looking and you're like that's my little
brother down there catching touchdowns.
Not for sure. It's every day, all
day that I see him working. I'm like
he's actually here. Like he's playing
at UK in the SEC.
I knew it was going to happen.
When I was in Kansas City,
I couldn't watch him. And when I've been in Denver,
I couldn't watch him actually, like physically
at the games and stuff. But just watching
on TV, I'd always, you know, turn it on
the matter where I was at. Like, whatever time he's playing,
I'm watching it somehow, some way. So
I'm always proud of him. I'm glad
he's doing what he's doing. Billy?
The all-time tackler in the modern era at Western Kentucky's that guy right there.
Tompers, Tompers, Tompher, that's right.
I don't know we're trying to wrap up, but when you were redshirted in your first year at Western
and you guys played at Alabama, your dad and I are just watching the sideline.
I remember forget when we saw you on the sideline just standing there.
There's a redshirt guy at Alabama like, man, that's Devin.
Now look at you.
You're in with the Denver Broncos, man.
It's crazy.
I remember we were at KS. Bar and he was playing.
I guess in a game, and you were so proud.
I wish you could have seen how proud this guy is of you.
Yeah, man.
I'm super glad to have the people in my life that I have.
And it's been a blessing just to have that support because I know not everybody does.
Well, Bryan Station should be very proud.
I mean, I always get mad at Brian Station.
All those NFL guys, Germani, Mark Logan, Cornell Burbage, Keough, Eric Shelton and you.
It all needs to be up there on the press box.
You know, you guys' names or something up there because that's how many NFL.
Phil Lamaster, Frank Lamasker, he was the first one, I think.
Get the Ring of Honor up there.
I need a ring of honor there at Bryan State.
They do have a little something in the wait room, though.
It's not really for, you know, the public, but like all the players can see it in the day.
Yeah, we appreciate you, brother.
Very proud.
Have you go kick some ass with the Broncos this year?
I'll see at the exhibition game in Indianapolis in a couple weeks.
Oh, yeah.
Let's do it.
That's right.
August 11th.
Devin Key, appreciate you, brother.
Nice to meet you.
We'll be right back.
Take your calls.
859-9-2-80-2-287.
I say nice to meet you.
I thought you knew him his whole life, but nice.
That works too.
Whatever you want to say.
We'll be right back to see.
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There we go.
We are at Dave's Deli on Georgetown Road, 1045 Georgetown Road.
They've got box lunches you can come in during your lunch break.
They've got catering available, right?
That's right.
Yeah, catering at Dave's Deli and desserts.com.
So they're going to whip us up with a couple sandwiches, I think,
coming up in the 11 o'clock break.
So we'll get to try it out and tell you how all that is.
Devin was good, wasn't he?
Oh, yeah.
And I just like hearing some of the conversations we had off air.
I hate saying that on the air.
But just hearing someone that's in the NFL and how it works
and, you know, him talking about the quarterbacks they drafted.
I could have done another segment just asking NFL specific questions.
Yeah, I couldn't believe $800 fine for the weight.
Yeah.
That's a little crap.
I'm glad we don't have this at KSR.
No, right?
Why don't start implementing that?
We're going to give you a weight, Ryan, and if you don't hit it, you got to donate.
We won't make it $800.
We'll put it to scale.
We'll say $8.
Now, some people have said, you know, all the pictures that Matt is posting from Spain and wherever he's been, Portugal, Italy.
He looks thin like he's lost some weight.
He may come back maybe a little thinner.
It turns out if you leave America and eat real food and walk around a lot, you don't get fat.
So it's kind of expected, but good for him.
I agree.
I've seen all the pictures he's sending.
He is looking trim.
Yeah.
I think he's in Spain.
I saw he posted something, went to the Guggenheim Museum in Spain, probably with Hubby and Sarah.
They all went there.
Yeah, hubby met him over there.
I am wondering, though, it's been a long time.
Do you think he's like, 10 was probably a little much?
I mean, he's been there seven weeks.
What if he comes back with, like, a European accent?
That's true.
Which one, though?
Which one?
I don't know.
I don't know.
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I'm going to get the extra strength gummy and go out there and go on.
Give him the old number one.
He's going to throw it right over the catcher's head up against the backstop, probably.
Yeah, we talked about this on the pre-show.
He's got a blister on his throwing finger.
Look at that.
Yeah, I got a blister.
That is an open wound on my throwing hand.
So if I throw a bad pitch, I have an excuse.
Let me get a magnifying glass.
There you go.
There might be something there.
Yeah.
That is my weed.
From pulling weeds.
Weed pulling.
My weed blister.
How's it on the side of your hand?
Because you pull weeds that, you know, those weeds kind of tear into your skin.
That is my excuse right there.
I pulled weeds last night.
Yeah.
You didn't pull out of anything.
I'm going to sound like an old man.
I have this tool.
It's like 100 years old.
It's called Grandpa's Weeder.
It's just a, it's a wooden stick with this thing you put your foot out at the bottom and pulls them right up.
What?
You got to get old with me, Shan.
We can't be bending over at our age.
Yeah.
You get you a grandpa's weeding stick and walk around your yard and have
neighbors look at you like you're crazy. I think you just changed
my life. I didn't know that thing. It's amazing
technology. I don't even know how it works. I was doing it
the old-fashioned way, getting it, you know, just pulling
them out with your hands, your bare hands. Well, so you're
going to throw left-handed tonight? No.
No, no, no. I'm going to do it.
He says he's not going to warm up. I'm not going to
throw in a baseball since I threw out the
first pitch back in 2017.
That's how long it's been. Well, you're, you know,
just like riding a bicycle. Man, once you've thrown it
before, you know, I've got it. It's like muscle
memory. What do you got? You're going to show me the
grand ball? It's a nice piece of technology.
I get no commission.
What's it called Grandpa?
Yeah, it's like 100 years old.
You still get it.
I love it.
We found Drew a new endorsement.
Grandpa's probably been dead for a long time.
But I appreciate his invention many years ago.
Just don't go viral tonight, Shannon.
I'll try not too.
The Clark's Publish out phone numbers 859-2-8-7.
We've got a guy that's been holding forever.
Is it Todd?
It's been holding everything.
So Todd, go ahead.
What do you got for us?
Yes.
Thanks for letting me speak to you about Wayne County.
Of course, you know it.
Well, hold on.
Hold on.
We're not doing Wayne County.
We've got Wayne County coming up next segment.
You can wait a little longer if you want to, but we're going to talk about Wayne County next seconds.
You've already waited an hour.
What's 10 more minutes?
That's fine.
I'll wait.
Okay.
Putting back on hold, Matt.
We're excited to talk to you, though, in 10 minutes.
Wayne County, you're on the clock.
You're about to come up and hear the rest of it.
So I do want to handle something before we get out of it because Billy touched on it just a little bit.
The Louisville video that was made.
Oh, my goodness.
We really didn't talk about that.
We didn't.
No.
Drew, I'm sure you have some good thoughts about the recruiting video.
The University of Louisville men's basketball team put out earlier this week.
What are they doing?
What was that?
That looked like cosplay, like Marvel.
Like he went to Spirit Halloween and got the cheapest astronaut costume they had.
What was that portal?
That was the transfer portal.
But we don't need a visual of you going into the transfer portal.
I've never seen it in real life.
I didn't know it looked like that.
Me neither.
I was glad to see it.
Bless his heart.
I hear he's a great guy, but when he's walking with his team and he looks like a little chess piece and he takes his daft punk helmet off and they give him his glasses, I almost felt like they made it for the internet.
Like here you all, make fun of us.
They made it for KSR, our show content.
Here it is KSR.
Go for it.
We've lost PK.
Guys, I'm in here.
It's a CRED.
You won't believe what's in here.
It was so corny.
So corny.
He did say, to his credit, to pay him a compliment, he spoke very highly of Mark Pope recently.
He's like, I know Louisville fans are going to hate this, but that's just a really nice guy.
I'm sorry, I have to say it.
So I'll give Pat Kelsey a little credit.
He'd probably up there in space right now, not even hearing this, but I thought that was nice of him to say good things about Pope.
And Pope says he loves Pat Kelsey.
Yeah, we love.
Come on, we can't have that.
It was like a film with the production value.
This was not an overnight thing.
I mean, they must have been planning this for a while.
What about Peyton Stephen and Luke Hancock and Michigan troll?
They were a part of this.
They looked very serious in their, I mean, their, their,
tie and, you know, domino's half-sleeved shirts.
You know, past things we've made fun at Louisville, those two denied being a part of it.
It was in the other room, but they are guilty.
They were part of this.
They were part of it.
So thank you, Louisville.
Give us some show content.
We appreciate that.
And any time you want to put another suit on, Pat Kelsey, we'll welcome it.
All right, we're going to take our break.
We're going to eat some lunch here at Dave's Deli, and we come back, Wayne County.
On the clock, we got you.
We're coming back to you, Todd.
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