KSR - 2024-07-31- KSR - Hour 1

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

Tom Hart fills in to talk LaFamilia and talks Secret Service with Timothy Reboulet.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the best and stand-up comedy to the area 37 years later. Call 859-271 joke or visit Comedyoff Broadway.com. This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones. What is up? Tom Hart in from Matt Jones. As the summer winds to a close. I am in Atlanta, Georgia. We've got Ryan and Drew with Mario and Lexington.

Shannon is in Louisville. Gang, we got a lot to talk about. And we've got a special guest coming up at the bottom of the hour talking about a topic that may get me disinvited from coming back on the show ever again, but that's for later. Drew, let's start with you. You've got a very punchable sternum. Ryan's got a punchable face.

Shannon gets thrown around the ring but has never been punched in the face. And Mario is just too cool for anybody to put fingers on. How's everybody feeling today? and Drew, any lasting bruises, injuries from your altercation? You know, I don't want to give anyone too much credit, but I do still feel it a little bit. But we're all right. It's all right.

We're riding high off that win. It's not about the extracurriculars. It's about the fun we had in their building. Really, my wrists hurt more from putting the Ls down than anything else. I think I broke them. My Ls were down so much Monday night. I have so many questions about this. The first thing I thought of, you guys kind of brought it up, like, you know, Ryan gets knocked unconscious in Columbia after the Kentucky, South Carolina football game.

You get some loafer dude throwing punches at you after TBT the other night, that big Kentucky went. But specifically, here's what I was wondering, you didn't address this. Do you think the person who accosted you knew who you were and, you? and knew your name and knew your personality and what you do for a living? Or was this stranger on stranger crime? I really don't know. We'd have to speak to that person. I had never seen that person in my life or had prior interactions or had even seen them until after I'd been hit.

So I don't know. I don't have those answers. Maybe. I mean, maybe he just saw that I did the L's down all night. I really don't know. Is he going to be your guest at 1030? Is that what we're doing here? Man, wouldn't that be awesome?

It crossed my mind that Tom wouldn't tell us who this special guest is. It crossed my mind. He tracked down the dude that punched Drew. We can have a call. If you want to call in, I want to put you on the air. It's not doo-do punch Drew. You can't say his name? We'll let everything play out.

I mean, everybody knows its name. It's everywhere. But, you know. Okay. Well, listen, here's the deal. You're a celebrity. Like, you're a recognizable phase. Yeah.

You're a commercial entity, right? You have sponsorship deals in place with companies. There's no way this guy did not know who you were. No way. There's no way he didn't know what you were. I'd say there's a high problem. Now, why you steal in South Carolina, maybe that was just, you know, somebody hauling off on a Kentucky fan because they were being, you know, being jerks.

But this guy had to have known who you were. And to me, and I don't have a law to agree. And I've never, I haven't really spent that much time in the courtroom. to be honest, but to me that makes it premeditated. Ryan, what do you think? I think you're on the right track. I think this guy saw Drew kind of sitting in front of him the whole game, giving the yells down, celebrating.

He goes, that's Drew Franklin. And then he ended up as he leaves walking by him and boom, gives him the little shot to the chest. You know what? You have a point because we all know my face isn't my moneymaker. He didn't aim for that. That would have done no damage to me. He went from my chest, which I need these lungs, this lung capacity

to do two-hour radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he might have attacked my career. Shannon, if you were to press charges or file a lawsuit, in your mind, does it change things if it was premeditated versus what they sometimes referred to as a crime of passion? Like it was just convenient as he's walking by and he sees a random guy in blue throwing L's down. Does that change? No, because if I get punched in the sternum, I'm calling T.J. and he's going to make him pay. That's what's going to happen if it happens to me in public.

But we already had, on a Hawk 2, as Drew called him, apologize to Nate Sustina. So I think that this guy should call in and apologize to Drew for punching him in the sternum. Drew's injured. Would we take that call and would we accept that apology? I'd call it the worst call of the day. I don't need apology. Damage is done. What's an apology going to do?

You know, we've all been that situation where after a rivalry game or a heated game, you end up having some interactions with other fans, I know after Wisconsin had beat us in the final. and four, a guy I know, and got into it. Then I was a constant fan. They got into a fist fight. So, I mean, I know what happens. But rarely does it happen, I think, in the arena. That's what I think make this one a little different.

They hadn't even left the stand yet. I didn't have the floor yet. You feel like it's more common once you get outside of the arena. Now you're shoulder to shoulder usually, you know, walking down the street or going down the sidewalk and people feel more free to talk smack at that point? Is that the difference? I think you are making this sound like I had engaged anything with this person.

I'm just walking by living my life. I'm a victim of a random attack here. I'm an assault victim. There was no engagement where I said something to him. He said something back and then it's on. I am with my wife walking towards a basketball floor. And bam. Bam, did he see it.

Did not even see it coming. He had a little posse with him too, you know, trying to act like they were holding them back. Little posse. Yeah, little posse. I'm so glad you pronounce that word correctly. It could have really gone off the rails quickly. Kentucky football starting today. Am I right?

Yeah. On the field today. Had to report their first meeting, I think was at 8.30 this morning for their first meeting, first day of fall camp. So let's go. Walker, Max Harrison, leading that defense, four returning starters on the O line. Brock Vandergriff. What are the expectations drew a quarterback?

How good could Brock Vandergriff be? What is the ceiling for? We're hearing very good things. We're getting Will Levis comparisons, not that he's going to go on and be an NFL starter, but that how it's a very business-like approach. The moment he got there, you know, it's not fun in games. It's where's my playbook. Let's watch film.

That kind of attitude. Coming from Georgia and already haven't, even though I didn't have much game experience, this isn't just some new guy ready to college football. He knows what he wants and what he's trying to accomplish this year. And another Levis comparison is that at SEC Media Day, some of his Georgia teammates said that the man doesn't know how to slide. So when he runs, he's looking to run people over. So not trying to put that pressure on him because Levis had an outstanding two years here. But I like the similarities out of spring and heading into the preseason camp of just his approach

and maybe the way he will play. I don't know that he'll have that arm that Levis had. That was pretty special. But I love what we're hearing of how he's working in the locker room, already being a good leader. And then we'll see. We heard good things about how he was just close to stealing that job at Georgia. That's the reason why Kentucky fans. fans are so excited. We'll take Georgia's second best. We'll take their third best, but we're

really excited to see him get on the field soon. So far of what we've heard, it's all been positive. I like the comp from a running standpoint because that was, you know, obviously that was Levis's background of Penn State and how he was used and he didn't get much of a chance to show off the cannon of an arm until he arrived at Kentucky. I'm getting, I'm getting geared up for the physical play of college football by watching water polo in the Olympics. I mean, that is just a beat down every single match. But that's for later. Ryan, what's your scoop on the wide receiver room?

Actually, we had dinner with Dane last night. What a lot? Listen, am I a great? Yeah, let's get it. What's the news? Am I a great? You know, I wanted to get together with him before camp started. So, you know, camp starting today.

Let's meet and have a little dinner and talk a little bit about some stuff. We had a caller yesterday. I want to clarify something. A caller yesterday was Terry. Said who, you know, we know Dane and Barry on kind of. the cornerstone to the receiving room, who are some other guys that we may see on the field? And I talked to Dane about it last night, and the guy that transferred from North Texas, I can't even remember his name, but the receiver that transferred from North Texas is going to be on the field a lot.

And Fred Ferrier from Frankfurt, who transferred from UAB, is going to be on the field a lot. Those are the two names he gave us also in that receiver room that can see time on the field this year. Jimori Macklin. Fred Ferrier, North Texas. Yeah, we mentioned Macklin yesterday. He's the guy to really watch the receiver room. Carry on, Tom. Fred Frayer from Frankfurt?

Fred Farrier from Frankfurt, yep. Say that 10 times fast. Well, Fred Farrier from Frankfurt. Fred Fragger, I can't undo it. I'm done. You can't. I'm sorry, I'm missing. Drew, who's the North Texas guy?

Jemori Macklin. We named him yesterday when a caller asked about guys to watch. He's a North Texas transfer related to former NFL receiver, Jeremy Macklin. You know, Dan and Barry on my will house. There you go. Yeah, that's a Mizzou guy. Right.

Yes, right. And played for the Eagles for a long time. Kickup returned specialists in addition to being an elite wide receiver, playing with Chase Daniel, that Missouri team that went to number one in the country in 2007. So one of the, really one of the best wide receivers in Missouri history. I don't remember any of that. Yeah, we don't remember that. We don't remember any of that.

I remember him well. Brian's focused on track. It's probably because you got knocked out. I got knocked out of Carolina. And if I were there, you'd be about to get knocked out again, talking about. Now here's another little, we're talking about the quarterbacks. We've talked about this on the show, but Tom, I think they're going to have packages in place where they're going to have two quarterbacks on the field at the same time with Gavin Wimpsett now in camp.

He can do some things that I think, and I think Bush Handen wants to kind of utilize both of those guys. So I think we're going to see a little of that once in a while. Drew, I hate to be negative, but you've got an NFL caliber quarterback taking most of your snaps. don't you want him to take all of your snaps when he's available? It would seem that way, and I'll be honest, it was a bit of a surprise when Gavin Wimsett transferred in. He started a lot of games at Rutgers through for close to 2,000 yards last year, so it's interesting that guy would come over here.

I assume he would know he'd have to be playing a little bit to take this job. So, you know, what's the old saying if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one? I don't think it's that scenario, but I think in the red zone, especially there are going to have some packages. We might get a little tricky with him. Did he commit after Brock was already lined up? He did. He was a late addition.

That's why it was kind of a surprise. The guy that was a maybe even two, three-year starter at Rutgers transferring where he knew he wouldn't be the number one. That's interesting. But it also shows the value, I think, just on the surface level of where would you rather play football? Would you rather be in the SEC playing for Kentucky and having a chance to win a lot of games and having eight home games and playing a top 10 schedule?

or getting your teeth kicked in every single day at Rutgers. He's also a Kentucky native, so there could have been a little wanting to get home for that, too. He's from Ryan's third hometown of Owensboro. Third hometown. Yeah. You know, Tom, I have several hometowns, and Owensboro is one of them. I went to school there. I live there, so it's kind of a hometown.

So Richard actually has a couple connections he'll like here. Yeah. But I think Wimpsett, I think with Bush Hamden with the offense, he wants to try to run, he wants the quarterback to be able to run and do some things, and I think that's where they may try to use Wimpset. That sounds really good. By the way, we talked about lawsuits already. Can somebody do the T.J. Reed?

Can we get that out of the way? Do we need to do that? You know, every episode is sponsored by the T.J. Smith Law Office, and if you ever need him, you call T. Cachna, what will happen? He'll make them pay. He'll make them pay, by golly. So Drew already called the T.

I already T. T.J. call you immediately, one of the other. I think I reached out to T. just bouncing a few things. He'll make them pay. Go to TJ for all your personal injury law your needs. There we go. Did you send that text before you left the building? No, no, no, no. I was too caught up in the moment. That's why people like, did you retaliate? No, I didn't retaliate.

I went straight out to the court and had fun with Law Familiar because that's why I was there. I'm worried about the other stuff afterwards. The Law Familiar stuff is so cool. And I worked TBT years ago. Now Fox has it, so we can't even do it anyway. But I just kept waiting for them to figure out how to put together teams at schools that really care and that matter. And when I was doing it, and I know Ohio State is up next, and Jared Selinger was playing on the team with Aaron Kraft. And that was the final four team, 04, 05, 06, something like that. You know, that was one with big followings, but Kentucky didn't have a team.

And it took them forever to kind of get this thing figured out where now you have an attendance record. Now you've got all of this interest, not just locally, but nationally. It feels like they're on the right path. And my favorite thing of all of this is how now Mario's got a favorite team. That's right. I mean, that is so cool. And maybe we'll throw, I don't, he probably doesn't have a mic in front of him. But throw on a headset later because I want to talk about that.

We can make it happen soon. Let's go to a break. We've got more to talk about. I want to introduce who's going to be on at the bottom of the hour so we can maximize. the time with them and why none of us know i mean none of us know who this surprise guest is coming on today ron actually stopped by my house yesterday we were trying to guess who it could be we were we would never guess you would never guess and it's it's not about the guest himself although he's going to provide great information it's more about the topic that could be incredibly divisive and probably

something that matt would never ever ever allow oh good well you're going out your last song you're going out swinging today Your last show, just one song. We're going down. I'm going to convince him never to ask me back. That's really the goal of this topic at the bottom of the hour. All right, let's take a break.

When we come back, I want to share an experience that I had, and then we'll get you ready for our topic at the bottom of the hour. You're listening to Kentucky Sports Radio. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.

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hockey players and sentient objects in love, which is a thing. That's the kind of conversation we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is epic LL Cool J to bring us back. Mama said knock you out. You can't hear it on the, still can't hear it on the podcast, huh? Can't hear it on the podcast. You can sing it though if you'd like, then they can hear that part. I'm more of a Sir Mixlott guy, but yeah, next time around. next time right yeah yeah i celebrate all of l o's catalog by the way have you guys been watching much of the olympics yeah no well we have it on right now at caspar and grill we got a little

swimming on and a little fencing down at the other end but this is about all i've seen so far is what i'm watching right now i got a little behind on monday in louisville but otherwise i've watched about every minute i could got the gymnastics last night i didn't get to see uh nadal jockovitch the other day i was excited about that one missed that one but i saw our rugby i'm taking it all in Tom as much as I can watch. The rugby sevens has been amazing. The US won bronze yesterday with a, it was basically like if it were football,

it would have been a 98-yard run at the buzzer. I saw that. She went through the line. She was basically tackled. Somehow she kept going and boom, she took it to the house. She had to kick. And then she had to make the kick to win it.

And she said afterwards, she was like, oh, I thought the run won it. I didn't even really know what the score was because Australia had missed their kick, their try. I don't understand all the rules. All I know is rugby sevens is awesome. I think it's done. I was watching some of the three on three basketball yesterday. Ryan Howard's playing for the United States, along with Haley Van Liff on the women's side.

The men's side has Jimmer Fredet, who I loved when he was at BYU, national player of the year, and Canyon Barry. I don't know if you remember Canyon Barry. He played at Florida. he's one to shot his free throws granny style. We remember. 12 seconds shot clock, fun game, but to be quite honest, we're terrible. Our teams are getting smoked. Yeah, I knew the women had got beat.

Ryan Howard's team got beat in their first round game. Totally different game than like the three-on-three you play in your backyard because it's constant. Like as soon as the ball goes through the hoop, you kick it back out, you get back behind the three-point line. and as soon as you touch it, that 12 second shot clock goes. So it's like a balance of conditioning and hoops and making shots. It looks really hard. Shannon, when do we go to break before, right at 10.30? Yeah.

Yeah, 102940 to give you the exact second. Sorry to show you how the sausage is made. I'm still, I've only done it all summer and I'm still getting used to it. This is your 10th show. We don't know either. I'm new to this. I'm a rookie. All right, here's my idea for the bottom of the hour.

Politics in our country this summer has been just going off the rails, right? So many wild things from Biden dropping out to Trump's attempted assassination, all of this stuff. And I'm not a politics guy. Like, I'm not good at talking about it. And I know that there's some stuff that Matt just totally avoids when it comes to this show. But I have a buddy who kind of knows how some of this stuff works. I went to college with. I'm going to bring them on.

And we're going to talk about the attempted assassination on Trump. What do you think, Ryan? Good idea, bad idea. Well, I mean, it's a moment in our history where all of us are going to remember this happening. Like for me, I remember when Reagan, there was an assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. I was in high school. So now we all remember the assassination attempt on a former president. I mean, it's historical.

It is. And there's still hearings going on on how the Secret Service handled it. That's what's in the news. Currently, that was yesterday the new acting director of the Secret Service is getting grilled on Capitol Hill. So the person we're going to have on was one of my fraternity brothers at the University of Missouri, who immediately upon graduation, he was a wrestler at Missouri. who went into the industry and he worked for the FBI.

Then he worked for the Secret Service and he was on presidential detail for both George W. Bush and Obama. I mean, this is a guy who every morning would go jogging with George Bush. And then a couple of years later, he'd be the one that would ride down the elevator with Barack Obama and take him down to the first floor and go on these trips and do the advance. And this is kind of where I think the Secret Service. is catching a lot of heat for how they handled everything.

It wasn't just in the moment. It was how the advanced team handled everything and why the former director is now fired. So we're going to have Tim Rebley on. He was on Fox News last week, going over all of this stuff and a lot of these failures. And I just want him to explain to us what should have happened in that moment and how they prepare for the end, I don't want to say the inevitable, but how they prepare for worst case scenario and where Secret Service dropped the ball because what's going on now at Capitol Hill is there's so much political grandstanding that I think it's hard for normal people like us to really understand

what matters and what doesn't and what the director of the Secret Service can share and what they can't share, right? Because if you share with these senators all of the details, then you're just giving our adversaries the entire playbook. So there's only so much you can say in these hearings as well. Drew, is there anything you want to hear from a former Secret Service member about how things were handled that day and how they should have been handled? I mean, I'd be interested to hear it. I don't maybe not have anything specific that I've thought of because, to be honest,

I haven't really kept up with it that much. And I certainly, this is a lot different. I was thinking you were going to have Pat Kelsey. This is not the direction. I thought we were going. That was my guess. But no, I think it'll be very interesting. hear for something that was obviously, as Ryan said, one of the biggest stories in our country

in several years. You know, the summer shows, you never know which way they're going to go, Tom. You know, last week we had in-depth discussions on deviled eggs, and yesterday it was Armadillo's. You're going to get serious with this after the commercial break and talk something very serious with us. So a lesson will be learned here today. I just wanted to change speeds a little bit, right?

I mean, there's only so much Lugies and Nate Tustina's face that will carry us through an entire summer show. and we have access to a knowledgeable person. Shannon, what about you? I would actually like to ask him what he would have done to keep Nate Sestina from getting spat on by Louisville after the game. What kind of protection did Nate need? That's a great question.

If you had an advanced team in place that knew that there was a spitter, could you have shut it down before it occurred? Yes. Yeah. I just want to know, like, when we're bringing in a president to a specific area, what are, like, in detail, the things that they have to go through to get that stage and that area ready for a president or someone running for president to come in.

Because to me, that stuff is fascinating. The detail that they're supposed to go through to get an area ready for a president. So like how do you secure the area? Right, yes. Yeah. So I've had these conversations with Tim over the years who we're going to bring on at the bottom of the hour.

And he was on the advanced team numerous times, both domestically and internationally, of being on presidential detail. I think you, if I know it properly, like you're on the advanced team, and then you get promoted to presidential detail, or if you're on your way out, you may do it on the way out. But generally domestically, like Kamala Harris was in Atlanta last night, and obviously she has protection.

You come to Atlanta, they already have a lot of stuff in place. Like they know when they've been to major metropolitan areas, how to do it. Farm field might be a little bit different. But we'll cover all that. I think it'll be interesting. We should learn something. We're going to try to learn something this summer. Kentucky Sports Radio continues after this.

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies,

and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them.

Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. What's up guys? This is Clifford Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Clifford Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What?

Time out. Quarterback on office blue 42. Hey, rec, my mama want you to wave at her. What? Where's she at? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Cliverts show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Why is everyone obsessed with romance right now?

Like everyone. Your co-worker, who, quote unquote, doesn't read, is reading romance. Your mom, book talk, the entire internet. I'm Sanjana Basker. I'm Tyler McCall. And this is Radio 831, a romance podcast. The books, the tropes. the adaptations, the drama, the discourse.

And what all of it says about how we actually love, yearn, and obsess. We're going to Weathering Heights, which, for the record, is not a romance novel. And yet it has haunted the romance genre for 200 years. We're getting into dark romance, age gaps, certain Russian hockey players. And sentient objects, in love, which is a thing. That's the kind of conversation we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. T.J. Smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. He'll make them pay.

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. All right, Tom Hardin for Matt Jones. We've got a special guest with us right now. Tim Rebellay, who was a Secret Service agent for a number of years. Also a college fraternity brother in mind nice enough to join us. All right, Tim, here's the thing. You may have heard. heard like this is generally a sports show. So bear with us as we kind of attack the basics of this thing to help folks throughout the Commonwealth understand kind of what happened and how everything rolled out in Butler, Pennsylvania. But first of all, thanks for being with us, man. I appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely. Great, great to be on and great to hear you and talk to you, Tom.

All right. So I did have a question that came in via Twitter to start things off that is unrelated to this. but you were on presidential detail for both Bush and Obama. And this person wanted to know for a Secret Service member where your job is to lay your life on the line. How do you keep personal politics out of it or do personal politics ever come into how you do your job every day? No, that's a great question. I get that a lot. But absolutely. So we as agents, we are apolitical.

You know, we take an oath on the Constitution of the United States of America, and that office, and that document is greater than anyone person. And also, we protect the office of the presidency. It doesn't matter, as you stated. I protected Republicans, Democrats, you know, also world leaders, you know, throughout the world. So we take the oath on the Constitution to defend the Constitution and protect those individuals that so happen to hold that office. Okay, Ronald Roe is the acting director of the Secret Service. He's been on the Hill testifying before Senate Judiciary and Homeland Security and governmental affairs committees the last couple of days. He took over after Kimberly Cheeto resigned following her appearance before a House committee.

I want you to speak for a moment about the pride you took in your job and the organization. And then your reaction to what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania on July 13th, just as someone, who spent and dedicated so many years of your life to the Secret Service? Yeah, so great question. So, yeah, I quit in, I understand this is sports talk. So it would be like a team that you, you know, you invest time and training and you get to know your team members or my fellow agents. You know, I traveled the world and spent, you know, countless holidays, Christmases, birthdays, anniversaries in foreign countries and, you know, states or, you know, working midnight shifts and everything. So you really develop that bond, which is really similar to a sports team or fraternity or, you know, something like of that nature that people can relate to.

And it's a bond that, you know, is as thick as blood. And knowing that you potentially may have to give your life for the Constitution, as I mentioned previously, that bond is even thicker. Some of my closest friends on this planet are former agents, you know, from the Secret Service. as it relates to Butler, Pennsylvania, on July 13th, I was actually watching that rally live on TV with my son. And as soon as everything went down, I knew exactly what happened. And obviously, like every other American,

I wanted to make sure that the former president was safe. But then me, I wanted to jump through the TV because, you know, 22 years with the agency, you trained, just like a sports team, and you have muscle memory. And all my training was kicking in. I wanted to jump through the TV and help because you spend a career or you spend a lifetime hoping that moment never happens. But when it does and when it did on that Saturday afternoon on July 13th, I wanted to be there because that's what I trained.

That's why I would wake up at O Dark 30 and run and work out, lift weights and shoot, training for that exact moment. So, you know, it was hard, you know, obviously as an American, you know, to see. an attack like that, but it was, you know, also hard as an agent to sit back and be kind of helpless and not not be able to help. I wanted to do something to assist my, my former colleagues. Tim Rabelle is our guest. You spent 22 years in the Secret Service and was on presidential detail with both George W. Bush and Obama. In addition to it being a family, and you described the Secret Service as being a team, there's several different levels, right? I mean, you have a first team and you have reserves and you have a JV. And I'm simplifying it. But in terms of the ones that jumped on the stage immediately after the shots rang out, I kind of view those people from a sports standpoint as like they're the first teamers, right?

They're the ones that matter most with the president every single day, everywhere he goes. And you correct me if I'm wrong in that observation. But what I'm getting at is I wanted, we know they're systemic failures throughout in both the planning and execution. But how did you think that those? those first teamers, so to speak, or however you guys describe them in the service, how do you gauge their reaction, the job that they did in getting to Trump?

Yeah, so those agents that you saw, we refer to as the shift. So those agents are permanently assigned to the former president's detail. So they are, their duty as you saw was to cover shield and evacuate the president. The remaining agents that were there, were typically from the field or the field office, i.e., in this case, the Pittsburgh field office.

So I thought about this. It's to equate it to like a sports team, you know, you would have, you know, the first team offense going in to protect your guys, and then you may have, you know, the second or third team offense or so to speak, you know, lying in weight. But again, don't get me wrong. They're all highly qualified, less than 1% of people in the world that apply. for the U.S. Secret Service, you know, become agents. So they're all highly trained, highly skilled men and women. But to answer your question, I'll tell you, Tom, their reaction, though I know

there's a lot of criticism online, their reaction to the situation is textbooked. It'll be looked at for the next 100 plus years in Secret Service Academy on what to do, cover, shield and evacuate, And a lot of people that are criticizing, they've never had rounds incoming, whizzing past their head. Everybody talks a big game, but to quote Mike Tyson, everybody has a plan until you're punched in the mouth. And they were punched in the mouth and they acted appropriately. So I applaud them on the reaction. And like I said, that will be looked at for the next 100 plus years on what to do correctly. From your perspective, where did the biggest failure occur in Butler, Pennsylvania?

Biggest failure to occur in Butler, Pennsylvania was we rely a lot on our local counterpart system. And, you know, I love local law enforcement. I started my career as a police officer in the city of St. Louis years ago. We can't do our job without them. But that was the main, you know, fault in this situation. We, I keep saying we, but the U.S. Secret Service had a plan in place, which would be like a blueprint or a game plan if you're a football team. And, you know, the defense, if you will, didn't follow the game plan.

And there were told, they were posted. They were supposed to be posted in a certain position. And they weren't properly posted because it was too hot. And then on top of that, even if they stayed on their interior post, which we've all learned, if they stayed there, they would have observed the shooter. So it was many small failures that led to one major catastrophic failure. But to use the analogy of sports again, the Secret Service would be like the head coach. You have the offensive defensive coordinators and such that do their jobs out in the field,

but then you have the actual players that put the plan together and the players failed. But ultimately, that comes back to the head coach, which is the U.S. Secret Service. So don't get, don't take it that I'm blaming this on local law enforcement. It ultimately comes back on the U.S. Secret Service. We failed or they failed, but it was a complete breakdown of assignments and missing assignments than abandoning assignments overall. Tim Rebelly, as our guest, 22 years, United States Secret Service and a career in law enforcement. The phrase that you just used just kind of boggles my mind.

And my assumption is you're talking about the local counter-sniper's. They're the ones who thought that it was too hot and working. in position to cover the roof. Is that right? Well, no. So to me, a lot of this, and again, there's a lot out in the media that isn't clarified. So we had U.S. Secret Service counter snipers team at the 3 o'clock position. Then he had another local team close to the 3 o'clock position in relation to the stage. And even though those guys were Giver County, ESU, counter-snipers, it doesn't matter. Nobody's talked about the fact we don't put snipers in those positions with weapons.

Typically, nobody's talked about it, but they would have their weapons decked. They would probably have their sidearm, but not long guns. They were there specifically to post the vulnerability to not allow access to the roof or obviously, take the high ground to see anybody that would take access to opposing roofs. So they weren't there in a sniper position, which nobody's really talked about. They were there as what we used the term post-stander. They were there to post a vulnerability that was identified within the security plan, and they took it upon themselves because it was too hot, whatever it is,

which is completely unacceptable to move inside of the AC. well, you know, the other 100 plus agents and officers were out there in the heat. That's part of the job, you know, heat, rain, wind, whatever it is, you deal with it. But again, I might sound like I'm throwing them under the bus, but a lot of people haven't talked about this type of thing. And it's about time that, you know, we point out the facts of what's going on. That's all I've talked about for the last, you know, 18 days. Yeah, no, and I think with the political grandstanding that happens, in every one of these hearings, we lose attention to detail and we lose a lot of the facts

because it turns into yelling about this, yelling about that. Tim Rebelly served United States Secret Service for over two decades. He's our guest. One of the questions we had from Shannon was he's really interested in the role of the advanced team and specifically, how do you secure an area like that? I think it's fairly understandable when presidents go into arenas on a regular basis and stadiums on a regular basis. And all the places that they go, say, within D.C.

Or major metropolitan areas that have been secured numerous times. And then you go to a field, right, in Pennsylvania. What is the role of the advanced team and being able to secure that area as much as you can share for our listeners? Yeah. So one thing I talked about about a week ago, you know, not giving up too much things, operational security-wise, because, you know, there's still agents out there do it, performing the mission, protecting people.

But to answer the question, it's actually, you know, we've been all over the world. I've done thousands of advances on six continents, you know, 70 plus countries, war zones, the whole nine yards. And it's not rocket science. You start out, you find out what the logistics are or the plan of your protectee is from where is that individual going to arrive, where they're going to walk on stage, And then you develop your plan with layers of security. You have an inner, middle, and outer perimeter, ultimately, that you develop based on where they're going to be.

And, for example, as he's Butler, Pennsylvania, you know, they looked at, or he's going to arrive here. He's going to go to the dais, give remarks for an hour plus, whatever it is. So they radiate out from there with the inner, the middle, and the outer perimeters. And as we know, and which is standard methodology for the U.S. Secret Service, the inner and middle perimeters are typically all U.S. Secret Service personnel sprinkled in with, you know, some local police. And we know for a fact that the inner and middle perimeter was, you know, worked by Secret Service and PSB, Pennsylvania State Police. Therefore, that left the outer perimeter, you know, to more local law enforcement, Butler, Beaver County, some of the surrounding jurisdictions. But, but again, to answer your question is you go in, you walk the path of the protectee, you look at any vulnerability, 360 degrees, up down, above, below.

And even now, you know, the tail end of my career, we would look at anything cyberwise that would affect potentially the protection. So no stone is on turn. And I know the folks who created that plan. And I haven't seen the plan so I can't talk to it per se. But I know the quality of work of the agents that, you know, put that plan together. And I know from 20 plus years of history, it had to be a solid plan. It just wasn't implemented. And again, to use that analogy of sport, you could have the best game plan on Sunday afternoon in the NFL.

But you got to improvise, overcome, and adapt based on, you know, the opposing team. All right, Tim, we only have, we only have one minute to go, and I'm curious about this. At any point in these scenarios, does protection ever get overruled by the campaign or somebody close to the asset who says, no, no, we want to do this instead,

and how does the Secret Service handle that to try and protect them, even if, you know, even if the candidate wants to do something different? No, so, Tom, I can attest to you. my career and a lot of times that's that's why they they pay us what they pay us which quite frankly isn't enough but that's another story we we we have those hard conversations with our protectes and they respect us we say no sir this is not a safe area and we can't do this for whatever reason as long as you have a reason why it's not a safe thing a lot of times quite honestly they respect you so much if you say no they're not going to do it based on your

your experience. So it's been done. It's been done a hundred times. And again, if the shift knew there was an actual threat, I know for a fact they would not have put him on stage, but that was never, ever communicated to the shift or the U.S. Secret Service. Put it this way, the individual was identified as a threat and he was he was neutralized within 15 seconds. Yeah. Tim, that's awesome information, man. I appreciate it. I know you got a lot going on. Thanks for giving us your time and explaining it to the viewers. And I know the 79 Bonneville that you drove to practice when you're wrestling because he's a coolest car. Coolest car you've never driven. Yeah. Thanks, man. Enjoy the rest of the day. Absolutely. Anytime.

That's Tim Rebellay from United States Secret Service retired after 22 years of service. I hope that was interesting. We'll try to rehash some of it when we come back with the boys back in Lexington. You're listening to Kentucky Sports Radio. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies,

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breaking down what's going on on the Hill today and yesterday. So for those of you who loved it, great and like that information for others. Drew's got a gift bag sitting at his feet at KSR. I was really listening to that. And, you know, I like hearing from someone whose job is much more important than mine. You know, we kind of have fake jobs here on KSR. I'm wearing what I'm probably going to. probably what I slept in.

So that was really fascinating. But then a package showed up out of nowhere that kind of took us by surprise here at KS. Bar. We've been shipped from Tyson Foods in Arkansas, Razorback Nuggets, and Arkansas branded swag. That arrived during that interview. They signed a five-star point card last week. You know, I got to give Tyson Foods a little credit.

When they hired Cal, they sent us some Tyson chicken nuggets like that day. and then now they've got these razor-back nuggets out. I mean, that's kind of a boss moves into it to us. We have to answer. So what are we going to do? Are we going to eat the nuggets or we're going to throw them in the trash? Oh, I'm eating. They're good.

I'm saving mine for the night we play. And after the game, after Mark Pope's team cooks them, I'm going to cook these nuggets and have a nice little celebration bill. So, Shannon, what has you most interested? Like how you protect an asset as a Secret Service member and the failure of the Secret Service in Butler, Pennsylvania? or chicken nuggets. I was pretty fascinated with the interview, to be honest with you,

but I'm also intrigued by, is it a troll job that they're trying to do? Are they just trying to extend like the olive branch, aka the Razorback Nuggets to Big Blue Nation by sending these? What's the goal here? It's a troll move. Definitely a troll move, yeah, sending it to us. It arrives during the show, you know. They don't have any control over the post office delivery schedule.

I mean, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Can I just go on a rant here? This is what's wrong with America. Okay? This is where we have gone off the rails. We had a former president nearly assassinated, and we have details on what went wrong and how it's supposed to go,

and you guys were dialed in on it, and then UPS showed up with dino nuggets. And you're like, oh, look, squirrel, butterfly. Ryan's gone. I'm gone. Out the door. This is unbelievable, but totally believable. Very unexpected package, though. It feels like a declaration of war.

Corey Price has tweeted your picture and your friend's picture from your fraternity days at Missouri, by the way. Yeah, by the way, if anybody wants secrets, don't... Just cut Cory Price's wife. That's it. He's a secret service guy, and Corey found pictures of him like in a couple seconds. It's unbelievable. We've got more to come.

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