KSR - 2024-08-15- KSR - Hour 1
Episode Date: August 15, 2024Matt, Drew and Billy are LIVE at KSBar talking Kentucky football expectations, telling people they can't do things, and the guys take your phone calls.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informati...on.
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Ryan Lemon is gone today for that stupid thing he does, Drew,
where it's a realtor breakfast where, in theory, you can win $5,000,
but he's never won it.
and because he gets paid by the show,
if you added up all the times that he's gone to win it,
he could have made the money probably,
but he still goes every year.
Maybe my favorite thing Ryan Lemon does.
Skips the show to basically go play the lottery.
I'm going to skip tomorrow and go to Red Mile and play the slots.
I mean, he basically, like, he makes a good living on this show,
and he skips guaranteed money to have like a one in a thousand chance of win.
I mean, I'm not going to say what he makes,
but the thing is for $5,000.
Like, what do you think the chance is he wins?
One in a thousand?
It's a big conference.
I might even say more.
I don't know.
And then he goes, he's never going to win.
He's certainly in the red when you add money he's made by skipping this.
No doubt.
Because, I mean, let's say it's a thousand people.
Basically, he has a $5 likely win percentage, and he will turn down this.
It's the most amazing thing.
is like, he says it like he's telling me he's going to a funeral because he's like, you know,
tomorrow's the realtor drawing.
I mean, you good without me going to that?
And I'm like, I mean, I guess if you want, I just don't understand it.
So we got, so we called in.
And it's perfect timing because we're taping our first episode of Fade This today.
Yay.
Yeah.
So when you get home this evening, you're going to have a Fade This episode.
And of course, the star of Fade This is the.
producer, Billy Rutledge, Billy R. Sports.
So it's nice to have you here as we do our first fade this episode.
Thank you, Matt.
I appreciate it.
I got the call from you at 1230 last night that you hit me on the show.
I got, well, we had a meeting and then it stayed out.
And so I texted you at 12.30.
You were awake.
I was.
I'm a night owl to a degree.
When do you sleep?
Because your show comes on early.
I know.
I sleep.
I only get like six hours of sleep.
So probably like 12.30, 1 o'clock is when I'm hitting.
What is the, like, you know, you always say to sleep eight hours.
Uh-huh.
But I'm like you.
I sleep six and then lay a little bit.
But I think that's okay.
I think six is like, you're all right with six, right?
I regularly don't get eight, but I am tired in the middle of the day.
So like a coffee or maybe the Ryan Lemon nap needs to be in effect.
But no, it's only about six hours for me after the getting the morning show.
Well, we're glad to have you here.
Are you going to make me call people on Fade This this season?
I don't know.
I mean, we're doing previews today.
You probably won't call anybody today, but we're probably going to have you.
I mean, like, I had somebody tell me they think you do your best work on Fade This, mainly because Drew and I are giving you a hard time the whole time.
But you do, I genuinely think you do a good job on there.
Well, thank you.
I've genuinely never been more nervous than when I have to get somebody on the phone in a five-minute span from a random town.
But it's a good learning experience.
So, Drew, I'll, yesterday, we left here.
We have a big on three Kentucky Sports Radio website.
meeting today.
And yesterday was unpopular opinion day.
A lot of fun.
A lot of fun.
One of the more fun days of the year.
A lot of people brought it.
A couple of people could have brought less.
One in particular.
One in particular.
You know, Rick, you've been working out the finger for the dump button today just in case?
I've got it ready to go just in case.
So what happened yesterday?
Rick, what happened?
You said you had it, Rick.
You said you had it.
What happened?
I pushed the wrong button.
I thought I pushed the dump, but I didn't.
But isn't the dump button?
I mean, it's just a huge button that says dump on it.
Like, it's like, for people who don't know, it's like a huge, it's like the biggest button in the room.
What did you hit instead?
Well, I think what happened was I was working the phones at the same time that we had that little incident,
and I panicked and hit the wrong button.
But again, what button did you hit?
I'm not really sure.
It was funny if we got like a wanting on a
That happens Drew
You try to hit the dump button and then you hit something else
He was so thrown off like the rest of us
All right, you got it today, right Rick?
You bet
All right, there we go
So the legacy I think yesterday of the
Unpopular opinion
A couple things people wanted to talk about
A lot of people wanted to talk about my UK football take
Which I'm going to repeat here at a minute
A lot of people
loved Casey's last call of only talk ill about people when they die.
Did not expect that. The idea of when they die is when you air your grievances against them.
We had to short shrift it a little bit because the show ended. What do you think, Billy?
You think that Casey said like people say don't speak ill of the dead. Well, they're dead now.
They won't hear it. That is the time to do it. I think after a 24-hour grace period. I mean,
there needs to be at least some time where we remember the good things about somebody. I don't think you go immediately into the
So start hour 25 and start.
Then you can, I think, dig in a little bit.
Maybe the true story has come out.
But one day of honoring who that person was and the good qualities.
I was a little thrown off by that.
I've never considered that policy.
I still don't think I would abide by that.
It just feels a little wrong when they can't defend themselves.
I get the premise of they can't hear it.
But I thought that was a great finale to the day because we had some outrageous.
Yeah, there was some outrageous.
I enjoyed it.
I'm popular opinion day.
That might have been our best one.
I really liked it.
Poor Dan Isle.
Poor Dan Isle.
Well, you actually have someone who's asked to call to defend Dan Isle.
So I'm going to give them the floor.
Somebody I respect to defend Danisle a little bit later because they want to have.
And so I'm going to give them that.
But then something happened to me yesterday.
I didn't like Drew.
Tell me about it.
You know, I have that car.
I have that Lexus.
I think it's like people always ask me what kind it is.
And I can't remember, even though I've had it for eight years.
RX, I think is what it's called.
Does that sound right?
Sounds good.
Sure.
I pulled out of the driveway yesterday, and it does have 207,000 miles.
Wow.
Is that a lot?
It's pretty high.
I mean, mine's pretty high, but not anywhere like that.
What's the amount that people would tell you, all right, you need to start looking at something else?
I think 150.
All right.
Well, we're over.
I'm at 1.30.
You're way past me.
207.
Well, with only three oil a chance.
No, I've done better.
Okay.
He had four.
I've, in the life of the car, we've probably had.
add 10, maybe eight.
Okay.
But we've done much better.
Yeah.
All right.
So I pull out of the driveway at my house and all of a sudden, like, you know, the
break is clearly like stuck, like the emergency break.
And I guess, and then things start beeping on the car.
You know, it talks to you and it's like pull over.
And I guess the electronic emergency break is just engaged and you can't.
Can't turn it all.
Like, I mean, I hit the button and I, like, yelled stop and all that.
And it didn't work.
And you've got that steep driveway.
Yeah.
So, well, I kind of rolled down the driveway, but with it, like, that smell of your break is still on and it's still, you know what I mean?
And then I just parked it.
And so I had to Uber here today.
Oh, wow.
And when I got in the Uber, the person goes, are you Matt Jones?
And I said, yeah.
And they said, oh, yeah, you're going to KS Bar.
Do you not own a car?
And they looked at me.
The look was this, Drew.
The look was like, I felt like you all were successful.
You should have a car.
You should have a car.
And then I didn't want to go into the emergency break and all that.
So I just was like, yeah, I do have a car, but I needed to Uber today.
I got here early and I'm used to seeing your car.
I just thought you were running late.
I was even thinking, are Billy and I?
Is he going to have a, did he forget the show today?
So the question is going to be when this is over, Billy, do I just?
Just, is it, do I just bite the bullet and get a new car?
I think it's time.
Yeah, maybe like the Tesla cyber truck.
That would be something up your alley.
Stop.
That's the, I mean, I know, I have a friend who has one.
And like, because I know he's listening.
And I'm sorry.
But those are the, that's the ugliest.
They're not.
Right, right?
Like, why, like, why do people, I mean, why?
It's the truck of the future.
To do what?
You can't carry anything in it
Oh, you can carry a lot in it
You can camp in it
But it doesn't have a bed
It's in the back, it lifts up
I don't want one I'm just saying
There's room in it
Okay
Well, I've seen a couple around town
They are certainly a gaudy vehicle
Yeah, well I'm not getting it
Okay, so let's just start
I'm not gonna get it
But you think 207,000 miles
That's too much
I think so maybe a trip to Don Franklin
Is in your future
There you go
But you know you've gotten so used to walk in an Ubering everywhere
I did
I was gonna walk today
It's more so unloading what's in the car.
I think that's where...
That'll be a long process.
Now, okay, so as often happens, people took a comment, I said, stripped all the context of it, and then put it online, which...
It's fun.
Which is always a fun part.
I mean, we have Mario here video and stuff, but then yesterday he moved, so I didn't have video.
I didn't have video confirmation of the other.
And specifically, the thing that seemed to bother people...
yesterday was my UK football comment about sort of saying, like,
I don't think we're ever going to win the SEC championship,
but more importantly that, like, I am pleased when we win seven or eight games.
I mean, I'm not, like, overjoyed, but I think seven or eight wins is a good season for Kentucky.
And online, I took a lot of, like, criticism about that.
And I guess, Drew, I just,
Take Dan Isle opinion.
I don't know that I would not say
Dan Isle is the best player in UK history,
but I can understand why other people would.
Like I get it.
I don't get the opinion.
I don't understand the opinion
that some people have,
that we should expect Kentucky
to consistently win
more than seven or eight games a year.
And that like if they don't,
the coaching staff is a failure.
I don't understand that opinion.
I don't know how any rational person
can have that opinion.
Now, you can want them to win more.
I do.
But you really can't expect Kentucky to win more.
Is that crazy?
No, I don't think it's crazy.
First of all, I want to say, I liked in that tweet, it said we spent 45 minutes talking about it.
We didn't spend 45 minutes talking about any one topic yesterday.
That tweet made it sound like we did half the show was talking about how football.
I mean, the people that write these tweets are, they don't know what they're just trying to get engagement.
And I guess it worked.
But like that we didn't spend 45 minutes, but go ahead.
To the point.
Yeah, I just, I don't know if it's an age thing, living through how bad it was for a long time.
And when Mark Stoops took over, they're at the bottom of the SEC.
And it is not an easy sport to climb to the top when you have the Alabama's, the Georgia's, Florida, Tennessee.
I mean, it's the SEC football.
I think the build they've done has been pretty amazing.
Amazing.
Yeah.
So, and yes, I want more.
I'd like to kick down more doors.
But to have an expectation like it should absolutely happen or it's a failure.
I think that's a big ask.
And people are righting me going, Mark Stoops and the coaches are going to get mad at you.
No, they're not.
I'm acknowledging how great they are to even get us to this point.
But let me ask you a question.
For the people who believe we should win more than eight games, Billy, first of all, that would put us, if we won nine games,
we'd be in the top five to six of the SEC.
Give me one, just one objective measure by which Kentucky football is top.
five in the SEC in anything recruits NIL history stadium size you pick it what is
UK in the top five in the SEC in this year it's time any year well the offensive
line was there our calling card for but that's that's that's an I'm talking about
program like the the we've had a top five player yes I mean we've we've been top five
in the SEC but as a program thing like Kentucky Bassett
We have a top five arena in terms of like amount of people.
We have a top five history.
We have a top five.
We've had top five coaches.
What have we ever had at Kentucky football that's top five in the SEC?
I can't think of anything offhand, but I will play devil's advocate a little bit here.
I was extremely disappointed with seven and six last year.
Were you not?
The bowl game to me is a wash for a variety.
I mean, the win versus Louisville.
But seven and five.
How it happened was disappointing.
That's not really what we're.
Yeah, I would say I thought.
with the talent and the schedule last year they should go eight and four the difference was
Missouri was better yeah than we thought they'd be and if we beat Missouri were eight and four
which is kind of what I thought would be so yes I guess I was disappointed it was seven and five
but if we had gone eight and four I would have been like this is exactly what we should have done
sure so maybe I was slightly disappointed testament to what stoops has done but take this year
if we go seven and five I think we can be pretty good and go seven and five yeah I do
Like I think we could be
People ask me and I say
We will be better this year than last year
But might have the same record
We got Texas
Old Miss on the road
Georgia? I mean look at Kentucky schedule
I would say to people if eight wins is not going to please you
Who between Texas
Old Miss Georgia and Tennessee
Do you think we should expect to beat
And not mess up on any other games
Who? Which of those teams do you think
We should expect to beat?
I just, I don't understand the opinion.
And the people said, well, Matt, you're being toxic to the program.
I firmly believe if your expectation is something we can't hit every year, you're the one
being toxic to the program.
You're making it where real success is not celebrated.
And anyone that ever compares UK football success to UK basketball success is out of their
minds.
They're different programs with different histories, with different resources.
You know, we're in a conference in football where 13 or 14 of the 16 schools have better overall builds than we do.
In basketball, we're the number one.
So, yes, the expectations are different.
And they should be.
I really think this could be Stoop's best team if they can get the quarterback played workout.
I think it's going to be his best defense.
Yet, as we'll talk about later today, on Draft Kings, their season wind tolls it's six and a half.
I mean, that just shows how hard it is to win games in the SEC.
That's what it should be.
It could be his best team he's ever had.
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Matt, Billy, and Drew.
One person writes at the text machine, Matt, the coaches talk all the time about going to
the SEC Championship.
Why shouldn't we take them at their word and expect it?
What are they supposed to say?
Our goals to go six and six.
I mean, like, I'm being realistic.
They're trying to motivate a team in a fan.
base. I don't, I don't expect them to do, you know, to be honest with you. They shouldn't get up there and go,
well, you know what I mean? We're going to be favored in five games. Like, they shouldn't do that,
Drew. And in basketball, we want to win a title every year. So every year we don't, is that a failure?
I mean, of course the players and coaches, they should have the mindset of what we are going to win every year.
They should. Yeah. One person writes, Matt, don't you think it hurts the program if players see you say
that they can't win a title.
No.
They care what I say?
I mean, come on.
Like, that's ridiculous.
I think if they did care, they'd want to prove someone wrong.
They wouldn't just think, well, I shouldn't play this game.
Yeah, Matt Jones doesn't think we can win, so I'm done.
But I would say that I bet you the players do see a lot of it, though.
Like, they're online.
But, okay.
But, like Drew says, it should motivate them.
It's not something that they see Matt Jones say that, and they're not going to go to school.
But what's the other thing?
I mean, if you want, I can come in here and go, we're going to go 10 and two,
every year and then you know what people will say at the end of the year you always hype this
team up and then name ever you know like I'm just telling you how I really feel it's like if
you have a kid let's say let's say you have a child say Mario is your child Billy
yeah Mario I mean it would be weird I see it like you don't look a lot of life I mean there
would be a sense of like who's Billy hanging out with yeah to produce a Mario but nevertheless
six years old when he had him that yeah exactly
But let's say Mario was your kid.
All right, Mario's a great guy.
But if you said to Mario that the only way he could be a success
was to be the best player in the NBA,
you are setting Mario up for a failure of a life.
But if you said, Mario, if you get all,
if you get all A's in school, successful, right?
If I say Kentucky football,
the only way you're going to be successful is if you go win SEC titles,
I am asking Kentucky football to have a lifetime of poor self-esteem.
I might be realistic with my son, but I'm never going to tell him he can't do anything.
Really?
Now, wait a minute.
He can be anything he wants.
Okay.
Are you ready for my unpopular opinion?
Some people need to be told they can't do things.
Why?
You've got to put some sense of belief into your son or daughter.
Let's say you have a kid.
Again, 5'8 is 15 years old and is terrible at basketball.
and you ask him what he wants to do with his life, and he says,
I'm going to play in the NBA.
Are you going to tell your kid?
Yeah, keep doing, like, just focus on that.
Are you going to say maybe we diversify our options to include some other stuff?
Let's try accounting.
Yeah.
Maybe a little bit of both, honestly.
I mean, I do think sometimes you have to look at people and go, like, I don't believe
when people say you can do whatever you want.
No, you can't.
I can't.
I can just feel parents.
Am I wrong?
I don't care how much I tried.
I could never have been a great singer.
And my mom is a great singer.
And if she had said to me, just keep singing,
I would have been like 30 years old and what am I going to do with my life?
I hear your point.
It sounds a little, I guess, deflating to people saying that people can't be whatever they want to be.
That's a message we tend to like to put out there.
But your point, I agree with.
Okay.
No, you can't.
You can't be an answer.
No, you can't.
I mean, I was never going to play defensive line for the Titans.
And if you had continued to say, I can play defensive line for the Titans, at some point,
it would have been your parents' responsibility to go, Drew, please try to pass the math test.
You are not going to play defensive line for the Titans, right?
Yeah, I guess.
I mean, I'm getting off track a little bit, but nevertheless.
You're just crushing dreams with this.
I put an update on KSR Blas.
There's a recruit, and I'll just leave this on KS board.
I'll just leave this here.
I think there's a recruit that we've given up on.
I'm not ready to give up on.
I think maybe in the last two days,
there's been some moving and shaking in the basketball world.
I'll just leave that.
I'm not saying, like, I think we'd given up,
and I think, you know,
some people were kind of at the back of the pack,
and they're starting to, like, Austin Dillon,
they're wrecking everybody and starting to, like,
try to draft through the field.
And I think there's a basketball player, Billy,
we have a chance on that I think a lot of people have just decided it is not going to happen.
Maybe somebody from their old Kentucky home and in-state recruit, maybe?
That's you saying that, not me.
I'm just saying, like, I do think I'd given up on something, and now, I mean, I'm not saying it's going to happen,
but I now have a little bit of confidence and a little bit of swag on it.
A little Quincy Hall, the 400 meter might have been trailing a few people for a little while,
but we're going to hit the jet, says the finish line's coming up and see what happens.
I love that Quincy Hall 400-meter run, because at the end,
He was running, like, that couldn't have been the perfect form.
Did you see the end of that run?
Like his arms and legs were going in ten different directions, and, like, somehow he sped up.
I thought that was a real, I'd like to see a physics breakdown of his end of that run.
But it can be an analogy of what's happening in recruiting.
I like people use that as a meme, as a reply to text, like, I'm running late, but I'll be there on time kind of thing.
Gotten out a few times.
One person writes, Matt, I have told my kid that they couldn't do something.
I felt like it was helping them.
There you go.
I just maybe early in their development.
I don't think you look at a kid when they're three and say you're not going to do anything.
I just think at some point you do have to try to put them, you know.
It's getting the right lane.
Exactly.
That's the way to put it.
I think every child can do something.
They can be great at something.
But you have to pick what you're great at, right?
You want to be a doctor?
No.
I heard Bill Byer say,
If you're 40 years old as a stand-up comedian and you haven't done anything yet,
might be time to learn to do something else.
I think there's a part of that that's true.
All right.
We're going to take a break.
We're going to take a calls.
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He has to guard Julius Randall.
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Steve Nass would get that thing.
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One person writes, Matt, people not being realistic with their friends and family is how you end up with that Australian break dancer going to the Olympics.
That's exactly right.
Somebody told her she was good.
Somebody said you're good at this, and the next thing you know, she's wearing a track suit at the Olympics.
She grew up in a, you can do whatever you want to do, House House House.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Liberals, by the way, of which I'm one, are the worst about it.
We're big on, oh, anybody can be what you want to be.
No, you can't.
Just you're saying that.
I don't know it's angering people.
No, but I'm, that's, you know, that's true.
At K.Y. Sports Radio, one person writes, this is going to be my text of the day.
Matt, when your basketball coach took you out for a drive
and said you should be the equipment manager,
did your mom tell you you could still play?
You know, that did it happen, Bill?
Did it really happen?
That's a true story.
Yes.
He took you out.
It was after my sophomore year of high school.
Put his hand on your shoulder and said,
he said, you want to go after practice?
He said, you want to go for a drive?
And I said, yeah, okay, Tim Millett,
let's go for a drive.
And we're driving, and he goes, you know,
really like having you around the team.
And I was like, yeah, I love to play.
I mean, he would use the word around.
I would say play.
You're like, yeah, my way to be.
I love to play.
I mean, I love playing on the team.
Like, I know I don't get to play, but like my friends are on it.
It's good.
He was like, yeah, we would love to keep you around the team.
What do you think about?
I felt like you'd be a really good manager.
And then I went, well,
dream died.
Wow.
Is that where all this started, that darkness is still living in your heart?
It's exactly right.
You don't want anyone to dream?
Kyle is on the phone. What's up, Kyle?
Hey, Matt. I got you on speakerphone here. I was going to just defend Dan Issel.
Okay, so this is Kyle Mann of the Ringer. Okay, so this is a guy who knows a lot about the NBA.
Hosted this show, just a few weeks ago.
He's hosted this show. You want to defend Dan Issel. So go for it.
Well, I tried to take a stab at you with the speakerphone there, but it kind of flew off.
Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. My delivery. It's my fault.
No, I mean, I'm listening.
I'm just driving around yesterday and, you know, listening and I hear somebody take some swipes at Dan Isl and I'm just thinking, I'm not going to sit here and argue that Dan Isle is the best player in the history of the program because I don't think he is.
I think that's Anthony Davis.
At times, I don't even think our own fans understand how impactful generationally Anthony Davis is.
He's up there with like Kevin Garnett, some of the best defenders ever to play.
but I'm not somebody that's like watched a ton of his Kentucky games.
I don't even know where you would go to find those.
But I think if you, if you, I've watched him a lot when he was playing.
He came into the NBA about when his prime was starting.
But they're, you know, if you look at his Kentucky career and how he played with the Nuggets,
this is a guy who was like a mid-range guy with like a big mid-range dribble pull-up game.
And he shot 55% from the field.
Somebody was talking about the attempt he took.
He took almost 24 shots.
but he hit 13 of them a game on these teams that needed him to score.
And just acting like he's somebody that wouldn't translate to today's game,
I absolutely think that he would.
If you watch the way that he played, he'd be like a Danilo Gallinari type player.
But he's absolutely somebody to me that I don't think he would play.
I think he would certainly play.
But like the conversation was that he is the greatest athlete in UK history.
You wouldn't agree with that, right?
Well, I mean, are we talking like athlete, like his ability to run, jump?
Let's just say in comparison to the other sports, in comparison when you look at how good he was compared to his peers,
the argument was Sidney McLaughlin is the best UK athlete ever in terms of how much better she is in relation to her peers.
Yeah.
That's not the way I understood it.
I was hearing somebody saying that they didn't think that he's, if they thought that his stats were over and plated,
Yeah, they did say that. He did say that. Yeah, he said that too.
When the NBA and the ABA merged, there was this period of time where Dan leading up to his prime was playing really well for the colonels.
So older people will remember this. Sorry, for calling you old.
But there was this time there where there was this overlap where the ABA teams would play the NBA teams in what they called Friendlies.
And the team that was going to win the championship, the 71 bucks, came and played the colonels at Freedom Hall in 1971.
And Istle hung 34 points on them.
and they lost. That's pretty good.
They narrowly, narrowly lost.
But one of the big talking points coming out of that game was like, holy cow,
like Dan IBA's good.
Yeah.
No, he's great.
I think those are all very valid points.
And Kyle, unlike a lot of people, comes with numbers and actually information.
Thank you for hosting while I was gone, by the way.
I really appreciate it.
And congrats on all your success.
I mean, I don't think people realize Kyle's a Kentucky fan on a national sports website.
We're proud of you.
Kyle, I appreciate it.
I appreciate you saying so.
You want me to throw one that will be extremely unpopular?
Quickly, yes.
I think Willie's overrated.
I think if Willie hadn't come back in 2015, that team's offensive ceiling is higher.
And I think he was in the way.
And in the championship.
You're talking about first team all-American.
I think that that, I'm sorry to say this, but I think it's overrated.
And whenever you say that AD is on the same level as Willie as a perimeter defender,
that is blast.
It makes you mad.
Okay.
Well, I understand.
All right, I do have to run, no, Kyle.
I do have to run.
I appreciate the call.
All right.
So he feels the same way about AD.
I had a lot of thoughts about Dan Isle, but I can't stop thinking about the Willie comment he had right there.
I don't know.
He's beloved.
Willie's a tough one for me to rank just because offensively, he does not a lot.
Defensive he was really good.
He was first team all-American, but some of that's because of how good the team is.
It's just a tough one.
What are in the National Player of the Year conversation?
He was, yeah.
He won defensive player that year.
Yeah.
He could defend by every spot.
What do you think about with our running back out?
Chip, Trey and him.
Let's just say he doesn't play against South Carolina.
Still feel good about us winning it, Drew?
I do, because I think the defense is going to win that game.
This is all assuming Van der Gryph pans out and the lines looking good.
I think they have just enough at running back to get through that game.
Now, they wouldn't go much farther in the season.
Certainly, you got Georgia the next week, not talking about that,
but just in general, I wouldn't want to play many games without them.
But I think they're going to be ready for that South Carolina game.
and they know the importance.
It'll obviously hurt not having them out there.
But, you know, you're hearing good things of Jason Patterson out of camp.
Wilcox was on the team last year, getting a little more reps over there now and hearing good things.
So I think they'll be able to figure out the running situation for that one-off game.
To me, if you tell me, I think there's some people who thought, well, sit him out the South Carolina game,
so he's ready for the Georgia game.
For me, like, the South Carolina game, he's got to play.
If he ends up missing the Georgia game, oh, well, like, it's going to be hard to win that game anyway.
Oh, if he's, like, on the edge.
about you. I'm just saying there. People, if you had to choose South Carolina or Georgia game, Billy, which one would you want him for?
I want them from South Carolina and get a few reps in in real game action before you take on a Georgia.
But South Carolina is down this year. I mean, I fully expect Kentucky to win, but this is a team that's caused them a lot of problems.
So like Drew said, there's going to be an emphasis that they, on this game that, you know, they should have on all that.
So are people thinking South Carolina is just not good this year?
They lost a lot of the portal. They didn't want to lose.
I mean, they're going to be fine.
They're going to be middle of the pack.
But it's a game, Kentucky, I think, should still win.
Are they going to be middle of the pack?
I mean, I was sort of thinking they were going to be like bottom of the pack.
I mean, they could be even more towards the bottom.
I mean, besides.
Yeah, besides Vandy.
Well, their win totals five for.
Yeah.
So then if they're win totals five, clearly people think that we are better.
To me, that's the most important game.
It is hard for me to think of a scenario where I get excited about the season if we lose to South Carolina.
I just don't know how you can.
because there's so much still to come.
I mean, if you're ranking how tough for the games,
South Carolina is probably our fourth easiest game.
Yeah.
We play Vandy.
Fifth easiest game, right?
Taking care of business against the South Carolina,
maybe in Auburn at home later in the year.
I mean, those are pivotal wins if you're going to want to try to steal one
from one of those bigger games and get to that seven or eight wins.
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Who's next?
John is up next.
John, go ahead, John.
Well, take on Kentucky getting to the SEC championship, I think, spot on because it would actually,
it depends on the bracket.
It could possibly be easier to get to the national championship game than to get to the SEC championship game.
Yeah, I don't know about getting to the national championship game,
but maybe to get to like the final four.
Yeah, I mean, like,
I appreciate the call.
There's no doubt getting to the playoff is easier than making the SEC championship game.
Does everybody agree with that?
Yes.
When it goes to 16 teams, there will be five SEC teams in the playoff every year.
There's only two in the championship game.
So even with 12, we'll definitely have three.
We might have four.
I just think, like, I can see us going to the playoff.
I can foresee a world where there's a Kentucky playoff game.
Hard for me, Drew, to foresee a world where there's a Kentucky SEC championship game in the current setup.
I think depending on a team's schedule, nine and three could get them in, depending who you beat, how close they were.
Now, that'd be kind of rare, but I think we're going to see nine and three teams.
Oh, I don't think it's rare.
There'll be nine and three teams in this year because there's just not enough teams to go 10 and two.
I think we'll see nine and three teams.
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This is Clivert Taylor the 4th.
And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff.
Like being an internet famous referee.
We're in the middle of a game.
This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me.
He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.
What?
Time out.
Quarterback on office blue with 42.
Hey, Brett.
My mama want you to weigh better.
What?
Where's she at?
Hey, Ms. Parker.
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The World Cup is coming.
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I'm Tad Ramos.
I'm Tom Boe. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines.
I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about Balagan. I'm not worried about McKinney.
My only concern is what happens in the back.
The biggest decisions.
If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team.
And the truth about the U.S. national team.
It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the Semmel.
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Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin
Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ
was at a level that we've never seen before.
And he knows, without Luca and Austin Reeves,
I got to manipulate the game.
We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.
I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
He has to guard Julius Randall.
And then he has to give us everything he gives us
on the night-to-night basis on offense.
And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson,
we dive into some playoff history too.
Steve Nash will get that thing.
That man, hell get the flying.
He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball.
Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.
Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.
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Matt, Drew, and Billy.
Tomorrow we are at Shady Rays in Louisville, folks.
Come on out, Oxmoor Mall.
Love to say hi.
Great sunglasses.
Good chance to come to Louisville.
We don't do a ton of shows in Louisville,
so I would love to see our Jefferson County, Kentucky fans,
make the trip.
We hope to see you there.
Also, they just brought in, Drew,
the new club blue beer.
I'm not sure if this is a breaking story or not.
I don't know if this is a breaking story or not.
I don't know if this is out there, but UK's basketball NIL is creating the club blue beer.
And when you buy it, all the profits go to basketball NIL.
So we're going to have a special here next week where if you get beer here,
you're not only getting beer from gravely brewing, which is a really good brewing,
but all the money that is made goes to NIO.
Love it.
This is the kind of stuff you have to do.
You do.
Tennessee's been good at this, unfortunately.
I thought where they did the Rocco shot game in Omaha,
where if you gave $10, it bought a shot for the count
and five, one of the athletes.
There's other examples around the conference.
You've got to get creative with these things
to bring in extra dollars, and I like this.
So put on your calendar next week.
If you are at KS Bar, you come drink the club blue beer,
you will, all the money will go to NIL.
And it's gravely brewing.
It's a great brewing company here in Kentucky,
but they're just bringing it in right now on Keggs.
Great idea.
Put it at Kroger Field, too,
and advertise that it's there because everybody
would want to support the football team.
True, but we also want them to come here, Billy.
Well, you do it here for pregame, and then you go out of the game.
No, you're right.
They should put it at Krogerfield.
I don't know if they're going to, but they should.
I think a lot of people knowing that it will go to help whether they, you know,
wanted a beer.
I mean, no one's going to force beer down just to help NIL.
But, you know what I mean?
They might lean to get that one instead of another option knowing it'll help the NIL.
Can I tell you something that I want to highly recommend to everybody you listen to,
and I genuinely cannot believe I'm saying this out loud.
I have always found Theo Vaughn to be a goober and a half, okay?
Like, I'm just saying, I know everybody, a lot of people,
but I've always thought, like, even going back to when he was on the road rules, right?
I never saw that, but he's a hot name right now.
No, I mean, people love him, but I've seen his clips on podcasts and stuff,
and I'm like, dude, like, you can't be that stupid.
But now I don't think he is.
think it's like an act, which in some ways makes me matter. But put that aside. I'm not just using
this to slant. I've never liked Theo Vaughn. But on my TikTok last night came up, Theo Vaughn talking
to Bernie Sanders. And I watched like a minute and a half of it, and I thought, this is actually
kind of good. So I downloaded it. And I'm telling you people, for all of you that are like me,
that care about like your country and politics, but you don't like what it's become, which is
everybody just yelling at each other and saying that everybody sucks.
And being mean, go listen to that interview.
Even if you disagree with Bernie Sanders, I hope he does one with somebody that's thoughtful on the right.
He talked to him for an hour, and they just talked about policies.
They didn't talk about, like, this person sucks, this person's great.
They just talked about policies.
And Theo Vaughn asked really good questions, like really good questions.
Like, I felt like it was like when Ryan gets plugged in in the morning, and he, like, said,
like, he asked really good questions.
and Bernie spoke like a human being, and he explained why he believes what he did,
and Theo Vaughn pushed back on him a couple times in good ways, and Bernie would explain.
I thought to myself, if this were what politics was like, it would be great.
So I got to give a salute to Theo Vaughn.
Somebody I never thought I would ever salute and say, whether you're right, left, middle,
you should go listen to it because, Drew, it's how this should be.
and I was really like encouraged like we can still do this in our society.
Yeah, I've seen Theo Vaughn at Comedy Art Broadway.
I don't catch all of his podcast.
His business manager is a former Lexington Tinroof manager.
So he's got a little connection there.
So I keep up with him a little bit.
Don't hear the podcast regularly, but I'll certainly check this out.
And I agree.
He's brighter than he leads on.
I mean, the mullet and the jokes.
It's clear.
He knows what he's doing.
His questions are good enough that like when he's like, like at one point he goes,
I want to add a caveat.
I don't really know what the word caveat means.
Like, okay, dude, yeah, of course.
It's part of a bit, I think.
It's part of a bit.
But nevertheless, it's really, really good.
I really like Theo, but I didn't expect the political angle.
I mean, I've seen him interviews like a lunch lady, like a cafeteria worker or a garbage man.
Like, that's kind of the hook.
He's good.
That is a good.
I highly recommend if you get some time this weekend you listen to it.
Who's up next, Rick?
Trevor is up.
Trevor.
Go ahead, Trevor.
How you guys doing, Matt?
Good.
What's up?
Um.
I think it would be pretty hard for the committee to not take a 9-and-3 SEC team.
I think it depends on who you beat, who you lost to.
I think it will depend on did you play a good team in the non-conference?
You know, Kentucky plays Louisville, South Carolina plays Clemson.
Right, that's my point.
Like that stuff matters.
But if you played a good non-conference game and you went 9-3 in the SEC,
I do agree with you, it's going to be hard to keep them out.
because especially with Texas and Oklahoma coming and you go nine and three in that
SEC and then beat an ACC team like I think that they're going to split at six and six
yeah well they're not going to do that they can't I mean you mean six yeah I mean they have to
take a big 12 team they have to take an ACC team and they have to take a group of five team so those
and then they have to take an SEC team they have to take a big 10 team so five spots are taking
So really you're looking through at seven wild cards.
My expectation is between the SEC and Big 10, five or six of those seven will go to that conference,
and then the ACC and Big 12 may get one extra one each.
That's kind of how I think it'll be.
I agree.
It all come down how it looks.
I mean, if you've got three losses, but you played Georgia with it a field goal and played Texas with a touchdown,
I think they're really going to look at that and lean towards SEC whenever it can.
And I think you're going to eventually see Billy, they're going to go to 16, okay?
and they're going to say four SEC, four Big Ten, two ACC, two Big 12, one group of five,
and then three wild cards.
That's where this is headed in a couple of years.
I like it, but I think the thing I'm looking forward to the most is those first round games being on school campuses.
I love it.
That's going to be awesome.
That's going to be awesome.
Those four games that are on college campuses, the Saturday before Christmas,
That's going to be the best.
That's going to be Drew the best.
Yeah, there's just not much like that.
I mean, even in basketball, your postseason tournament, you're going to neutral sites
to host a meaningful playoff game like that.
Whatever the atmosphere is, whatever city it is, that will be a crazy place to be.
It'll be awesome.
Like, that's going to be, to me, as good as the next rounds, Billy.
That first round is going to be maybe the most exciting thing.
To be special to have that at Krogerfield.
And imagine you had it here.
right just imagine it would be amazing and i'll go back to the will excuse me the Terry Wilson year
we beat Penn State that year we would have either been 12th or 13th it would have been us or
Penn State and they would have had to decide of course when we played in the citrus bowl we beat
them but this would have been before we played so you think about Kentucky that year if it had
been this system they would have been choosing us or Penn State I don't know which one they
would have chosen but imagine we got to go play oh
Ohio State on their campus.
In Columbus. It would just be awesome, and that's going to happen this year with some teams,
and that's pretty exciting.
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