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Ryan is here.
Seems like you feel better.
Did I hear you drove a car?
I drove to work for the first.
time in two weeks today.
That's good.
Positive on this Monday.
Positive Monday.
Ryan is on the road.
Positive for Ryan.
I'm not sure if it's positive of everybody else.
Very true.
For Ryan,
positive, Drew is here.
Drew, how are you?
I've been a lot better.
Still filling the effects for the weekend.
By the way,
maybe this will feel you better.
There's a stat that this college football website comes up with
that shows outcome versus expected outcome.
Basically,
if you played the game 100 times with exactly how it went,
would you expect teams to do better or worse?
Besides Notre Dame Northern Illinois,
our game, the expected value was off in Kentucky's direction.
So we shouldn't have lost point me,
we shouldn't have lost by as much as we did.
That should make you feel better, right?
I'm shocked when you said that before you walked in.
There's no way you're expected to win that game.
I'm not going to give any excuse.
34 to 6 at home is a disaster.
Just a disaster.
and we can relive it.
You know, I don't want to sit here in wallowed misery.
I think two plays were the most important.
One was, it actually, to me, was not the one where we went for it on fourth down,
although that was symbolic, but we only ended up giving three points off that.
Yeah.
I think the play was the fourth of one for them with the score 10 to 6 when we went off sides
when, like, clearly everybody in the stadium knew they weren't.
weren't going to snap it, and we went off sides.
I don't know if Oxidine jumped or the other guy pushed him.
Push, I think, would be even worse if we're pushing guys off sides.
That was Drew.
I mean, the game then changed.
They go score.
You know, it's over.
If you stop them there, you get the ball.
You're only down 10 to 6, and then it just went off track after that.
I mean, you all heard me last week.
I'm still completely shocked.
It was bad as it was.
I mean, sure, South Carolina.
I knew there was a chance they could come here and win it.
It's an SEC team, but 31 to 6.
My goodness, six.
Six points.
Six completions, three from Vandergriff and three from Wimsitt.
By the way, we're last amongst Power 5 in passing in the country.
Now, I mean, to be fair, we missed a quarter and a half, but still.
Yeah, I mean, you know his next to last?
South Carolina, but go ahead.
I mean, Vandergriff was sacked more than he hit a receiver.
He had more sacks than completions.
I'm just, I cannot believe they were as bad as they were.
I mean, is that the worst offensive line you can remember?
You know, we were very confident.
On this one, we didn't get it wrong.
Even Las Vegas had Kentucky's a 10-point favorite.
You never see that in the SEC.
So to go from the expectations of you're the more talented team, you're at home,
a need-to-win situation.
How do you score six points?
LSU is going to beat South Carolina.
LSU is only a one-point favorite Saturday in South Carolina.
Just go ahead.
This restaurant is going on, Ellis.
you because South Carolina's not good that's the thing that bothers me their
quarterback's not good they got a great defensive line but besides that they're not
good and we we stunk work I mean that is the work it's hard for me to judge brought
vandergriff because I don't know because I know how terrible that that offensive line was
just awful awful the whole game was was awful I mean it was a complete system
failure but but I have to say though I think 75% well
We'll talk about coaching, but 75% is on the offensive line to me.
I mean, you can't leave your defense on the field as long as we did, especially in the second half.
We gave away 10 points with the pick six.
But again, I don't even know, I don't really know if I blame Brock Vandergriff.
Do you?
I mean, he missed a couple throws.
I mean, he struggled a little bit, but you're right.
A lot of the problems were the offensive line didn't give him any time at all.
I'm not saying he was good, but like it's hard.
I don't know if I can judge him.
Yeah.
Some of the best passes that he made were called back for holding on the offensive line.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
He was pretty bad, but he was running for his life, especially towards the end.
And then it got that stretch.
I forgot the number, but we ran it so many times in a row.
And South Carolina just knew it was a run.
They completely abandoned the pass, which I kind of understand with that line.
But I'll say he was bad, but it's hard to judge what he is based on that.
Yeah, I think that's right.
help. Marcus Cox, by the way, graded on a scale of one to a hundred. You know what he graded for the game?
5.1. No. I don't know you could get that lower. Just existing on the field, do you get that rating, right?
I mean, that's like a cone. That's a seventh-year guy out there. And heck, he's been good for a lot of time. He's been good. And you know who was our highest graded starter was actually Mincey, who felt like messed up the whole game. Yeah. But he was our high. I mean, it was a disaster. I mean, it was a disaster. I
I don't, look, I don't want to spend a day going, we stuck because we did stay.
But the question is, where do you go from here?
And I don't know the answer.
Mark's story was in the herald today says maybe it's time to evaluate the Stoops' trajectory of the program.
That was certainly where people were online and even on the postgame show Saturday night.
It's crazy to think one game would do that.
But, you know, South Carolina's kind of been, I made the point, Ryan, that it's.
it's kind of been the signature game of the Stoop's career.
He got his first big home win against him.
He got his first big road win against him.
He beat him seven of eight.
Now he's lost three in a row.
Like, what do you think?
You're right.
That point you made because this program fought and fought and fought to get some respect,
and they did that by beating teams like South Carolina.
You became a better program than South Carolina.
But now the last three years, they beat you twice in your home field,
and they embarrassed you Saturday to come in around.
I think the thing that disappointed me the most, our guys didn't fight.
They didn't compete at times.
They didn't.
And that's what for a stupid team is disappointing.
South Carolina has the exact same amount of home SEC wins in this stadium in the last three years as Kentucky does.
Two?
And this doesn't make Beamer a good coat.
Beamer is still a clown.
A week ago, their fans were calling Fimbom asking if Beamer is going to see the end of the year.
And you've lost three in a row to that guy.
you that's why you load up on the LSU.
LSU's going to kill them, Nick.
They're not good.
That's what's so,
what is so worrisome to me is they're not good.
And they didn't just win.
They destroyed us.
And they get game,
they stole our game day.
Stole game day.
Like that was going to be our game day.
Now it's their game day.
That is the biggest slap in the face to come in,
beat you on your home field.
And then steal game day.
And then take game day.
I mean, like,
it doesn't get any worse than that,
does it?
Yeah,
it's a disaster.
Five bomb went on a show yesterday.
I forgot what it was, but he was basically like,
ESPN didn't even know where to go because they were just expecting Lexington.
So they're just on the fly, like, well, I guess we'll go to something.
They said it was going to be Lexington.
He was on a podcast or another ESPN show and said there was confusion
because the anticipation was going to be Lexington.
Unbelievable.
I mean, unbelievable.
And so I don't really know where you go.
I mean, you know, I feel like in some ways we're back in the situation.
where we were last year with Cal, although the decline in opinion is quicker.
You know, Cal's was kind of gradual over a period of time.
This feels quicker.
But I do think you're in a sense where, okay, there are people who believe there needs to be
a change.
I'm going to continue to say when people say that, even if you want it, you don't have
the money to make a change, right?
So there's that part of it.
But I don't think he deserves a change.
I also think it is hard to, I feel like I said this all of, like,
season. It's hard to see how this gets better this year because this schedule is hard.
This was the game we were supposed to win. Luckily, Auburn seems terrible too, but now it's
not clear how you get to six wins for certain. You got Georgia coming in here next week.
Then you got an Ohio game where I worry nobody's going to be there. Right. They'll be there.
Saturday people will go because it's Georgia, but I worry there's not, in Ohio, though, nobody.
And then we go to Ole Miss. And then we have a buy.
and then Vandy comes.
So it's not even clear how he proves, Ryan, that we're good,
really until we go to Florida at the middle of October.
Like, it's hard to know what can happen to even turn the momentum around.
Your argument's fair, because the last two seasons have been not up to what fans expected.
And thankfully, they beat Louisville the last game of the year last year.
We had an entire offseason bitching, I think, about the football program.
They beat Louisville, kind of saved it with seven and five.
Now this is the game we pointed to like you said all summer.
You've got to win this.
What if we hadn't beaten Louisville?
That's it.
If we hadn't beaten Louisville, this would be a whole nother level.
I mean, like the Louisville game kind of turned the momentum around for how we looked at that season last year.
You know, you don't win that one.
Drew, it's hard.
I mean, we may not go to a bowl.
Matter of fact, if you made me bet right now, I'd bet we won't.
I'll say it out loud.
I'm not certain Vandy's a win.
No, no.
When the schedule came out, you just count.
bandy. Oh, yeah, you're going to win that.
Fandy scored 90 points in two weeks
of the season. Yeah. No, I think that's fair.
There's no game on the schedule outside of
the Ohio and Murray where I'm like, oh, yeah, we're going to win that.
I would have said that a week ago, but
after as bad as they looked against the South Carolina
team, it's not good. I'm not counting anything.
I mean, that's the worst of Stoops team is look.
Right? It just looks unprepared, man.
The Vandy game two years ago, we looked
bad, but I mean,
this one's right. It's this one or the Vandy game
two years ago.
You know, I don't know.
And here's the problem.
And I articulated this case on the postgame show,
but I think this is a particular problem, Ryan, for the NIL era.
Back in the day, when you had a bad situation,
you didn't want the fans to get upset at you,
but it really didn't have much of an effect on your team, right?
You just take Shane Beamer at South Carolina.
Fans are not thrilled, but it weren't thrilled,
but it doesn't really necessarily matter.
But in the NIO world, the fan opinion,
of you. And specifically, the booster opinion of you, is ultimately makes or breaks your program.
So you can get in what I would call a death spiral. And I don't know if anyone's talked about this
nationally, but I bet you will here at schools. Because the problem is if the fans lose faith,
they will stop giving money. And if you stop getting money, you won't be able to get players
to make your team better, and it'll just spiral. And then your team will be worse. And it's like,
I don't know how you get out of that spiral.
And I wonder if this team continues in this path, how do you go look at people and say, give money for this?
You're right.
If they're in that spiral, the only way to get out of it is you've got to beat somebody.
But it's harder to beat somebody because you can't get any players because you won't be able.
Like, I think that we, I'm worried about that for this because if this team goes four and eight, Drew, you know, are people going to use the phrase pony up?
I've already seen a lot of that since Saturday.
I thought Kentucky fans have done a great job of buying in in the program.
NIL's in a pretty good place.
That atmosphere Saturday was amazing.
Go back to last week where they set through a two-hour rain delay just to see what we've all thought is the most talented team.
Fired up for South Carolina.
It might have been a little bit of looking ahead from the fans to Georgia and college game day,
but there was so much energy behind your football team.
And now I get on Facebook, I see people selling the remainder of their tickets already.
I mean, there's several listings of buy my season tickets for Kentucky right now based on that one game.
One game took all that energy, and now it's several people asking, should you keep stoops, what's next, can you even make a bowl?
And all that happened in a couple hours on Saturday.
And now you play Georgia.
Yeah.
I mean, how are you going to reignite the momentum against Georgia?
I don't know.
I think it's the low point in the Stoops era, and I don't know what he does.
Because you're right.
The team looked like they quit, which is not.
something that has happened during the Stoops era and they got a ton of talent and it looked awful.
And, you know, maybe it's that everything else is okay and the offensive line is the worst
that's ever played.
But I don't know.
It's just a disaster right now.
And it's two games in.
And so I don't know what Mark does.
I don't know what he, I don't know what he can get up and say.
I don't, it's just, it's a disaster.
And Saturday was like, there's just a sense of what are we going to do?
And that's where we are.
And we'll figure it out.
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Give me, Max always likes when I do percentage chances.
Give me percentage chances that by the end of the year,
whatever has happened has happened to get Kentucky fans still solidly behind stoop.
In the moments after, that number's very low.
But what, give me the percentage chance he gets something.
I'm not going to say the season turnaround because I only think there's so well you can do,
but that people will go into the offseason going,
still have faith in stoops as the program.
I'm still leaning that way because every year they seem to lay an egg in a game.
I'm hoping this was the egg, and now they'll go out and they'll compete.
And like you said earlier, Auburn doesn't look very good.
Florida doesn't look very good.
You got Ohio, you got Murray State.
There's four wins.
It may come down to that Louisville game again.
In bandy.
Yeah, and bandy.
It may come down to the Louisville game again on how we view the success.
65.
Okay, that's a high percentage.
I'm not going that high.
I will say, you know, there's, it's the way football sets up,
you can make up for a bad loss, you can save it.
I don't have a lot of hope with that line.
But was it 2016?
They lost to Southern Miss.
I think they started 0 and 2 and went on to win eight games.
So it's happened.
I'm not confident it will happen.
So I will say about 30% chance.
A lot of it, like Ryan said, if you beat Louisville at the end of the year, as we saw last year,
that can erase a lot of things that have gone wrong.
I'll say 30% chance at the end of the year.
Well, you're okay.
All right.
What about you, Shannon?
You got to beat Louisville, first of all.
That always makes us feel better about the situation.
But I think you've also got to get to at least seven wins.
I think you've got to get to that at least.
Seven requires a little of a win.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe a win over, you know, if you slip up again, maybe it went over a ranked team.
The problem is we play four of what I think are probably the nine best teams in the country.
Like, it's not like we can just go beat.
Like take Missouri as an example.
Missouri is a team that if they were on our schedule,
looks like a big win,
but I could go into that game and think we had a shot.
We play four of like the best teams in the country.
I mean, if you were to ask,
who's looked better than anybody else,
you could make an argument that the first four teams mentioned are on our schedule.
Yes, they are.
Really?
Georgia, Texas, Ole Miss Tennessee.
I think people would say those might be the four best looking teams so far,
and we play all four of them,
three of them on the road,
and one of them next week.
So, like, that's hard for me to see.
You're right, the Louisville game would make people look different,
but I think it would only make people look different
if it got us to at least six wins.
If it gets us to four wins or five wins,
I don't necessarily think it does you much good.
So all that being said, I'm going to put it at like 25%.
Okay.
I'm going to go 35, but I'm a mate.
You're very confident.
I'm just worried that, like, all year we talked about,
this was the swing game, this one, this one right here.
And then that happens.
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Let's talk about the London situation.
I will say this has been one of the more confusing big news stories that I've seen.
I think part of it is where London is located, where it's kind of in the Lexington TV market,
and it's kind of in the Knoxville TV market.
And I just feel like to me there's been not enough local covered.
Like I could not believe that Saturday night no one was covering it on television.
And I know there's football on, but like, how was no local TV station live?
Yeah, they're, they're skeleton staff on weekends.
They had so many people on the UK game beat that when that happened,
I don't know they'd have enough people to do something.
I understand, but you got, so first of all, for people who don't know,
there was a shooting in between London and Livingston on the interstate.
He's still at large.
There are like 15 schools in Eastern Kentucky closed today because of it.
you know, all right, so I'm driving.
I kind of gave up on the game at the end of the third quarter.
So I was like, I'm going to go eat dinner before the postgame show.
And I'm driving home from dinner, and I see that it's happened.
I call Michael with the radio station and say, I feel like we need to address this.
And I said, I feel like even JMI needs to address it because people are going to be driving home, right?
Like, that's the thing is that everybody's going to be driving that way.
Absolutely.
If you live in southeastern Kentucky, you have to go that way.
and to their credit, they both agreed,
so we started talking about what we would do on the postgame show.
I just couldn't believe the news stations.
I mean, they break in for like, it might be a bad thunderstorm.
You got a gunman on the loose.
I'm telling you, I texted you last night and said you did a good job
because you were the only live news element on the air giving us live update.
The TV stations did not break away.
They all had games on.
even their Twitter accounts were not updating you.
I just didn't understand that.
But on the show, we had it.
Yep.
And you did a good job.
Seriously, I'm going to compliment you.
You did a good job.
You gave the information as you knew it.
You didn't speculate.
There was a lot of speculation out there first.
You didn't get into that.
Well, and the speculation online, some of it ended up being wayfault.
Some of it actually ended up being a little true, but you never know what's what.
You know, the London mayor, I appreciate him coming on with this, but then I think what he said ended up not being correct.
Right.
Which makes you say, well, maybe.
you know, don't say it unless you know, because he said it was a wreck and an altercation that led,
that looks like that wasn't true unless something's changed, that looked like that wasn't true.
It was a guy standing there picking off cars, which is really scary, right?
Yeah, especially, as you said, with so many people leaving Lexington going that direction,
you needed to get the word out to as many as possible.
And now he's, you know, now he's on the loose.
it looks like he's in the hills
but you know
when you try to explain to people what eastern
Kentucky's like how about the fact that for 48
hours they can't find this guy because the
woods are too dense
and if he grew up in that area he knows
he knows where the caves are the hollers where he can hide out
in caves yeah
oh yeah okay so
I love that you probably saw
the story where the couple semis
side by side of the bus
full of hazard band
or maybe with Harlan their band
and kind of escorted them through that area,
just kind of protected a little bit.
Yeah, I love that story that came out.
But, you know, it's kind of a wild story.
And you would think in 2024, Shannon, like you couldn't hide, you know,
in the woods, but I guess you can.
And who knows for how long?
You know, I don't know a whole lot about being on the police force,
but, I mean, it was kind of surprising to me that they called off the search at night.
I would think they would have, like, you know, helicopters with lights.
But, I mean, it might also be like that.
That woods, I mean, the mountains may be so dense that, like, shining lights on it wouldn't work.
So they're only working during the daylight, which kind of limits them on this.
Well, the London mayor said they knew where he was, the area.
That doesn't look like that was true either.
I mean, I get it.
I guess he's trying to, like, make people not panicked.
But, I mean, it wasn't true what he said.
So, I mean, that's kind of odd to me, Drew.
So the whole thing is odd.
But hopefully, so far, no one has passed away.
So that's a good sign.
And hopefully that will continue.
Apparently they found his car and it was deserted, so he's probably on foot.
But when this came out Saturday evening, if you told me on Monday,
we'd still be talking about how he's on the loose.
That's pretty hard to believe and showed you how scary and serious of a situation it is.
Well, I think what's really scary to people is the idea that he was just standing there with cars on the interstate.
Completely randomly.
You know, I'm scary, man.
I'm telling you, man, the gun stuff.
I mean, I can't, I'm not going to preach, but like, you're not going to be able to protect against that.
You know what I mean?
I mean, you're not, unless we do something bigger in society.
Like, you know, there are times they're like, we'll have more security.
What are you going to do on the interstate?
Yeah.
You know, it's like.
And completely random.
We just are so obsessed with guns.
We are.
And I'm not saying everybody can have opinions about, but like, we're just so, this country is so obsessed with guns.
And it's scary to me.
That one Saturday seemed kind of particularly scary because of the randomness of the circumstances.
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Welcome back, Kentucky Sports Radio. Let me read some of these comments here.
One person writes, Matt, I think the same argument about nerds,
applies to football as basketball.
Analytic guys are winning games.
Stoop's part of an old, tough, hard-nosed coach kind of way,
and it doesn't work anymore.
Go look at Josh Heppel, Lincoln Riley, Lane Kiffin,
we need a nerd.
The let's grind it out and win just doesn't work in 2024.
I mean, there may be a little truth to that.
There's not a little truth to it.
There's a lot of truth.
There's a lot of truth.
Now Saturday, oddly, we probably should have run the ball more.
at least early in the game.
But that also can be an analytic decision.
You've got to approach this stuff analytically.
And I will say this, because a lot of people are talking about Bush Hamden.
I don't know if Bush Hamden's a good a defense coordinator or not.
But we're about to get to the point that we can't keep pointing at the offensive coordinator.
Because we've gone through like six of them in the last six years.
So there's going to come a point that you just, at some point, you got to look in the mirror and go, am I the problem?
It's me.
Yeah.
For Mark Stoops.
I think that was Taylor Swift.
I mean, Liam Cohen just put up 37 in the NFL yesterday with Baker-Bayfield.
I'm just saying.
Like the idea that Liam Cohen had lost his touch, he put up 37 with the Tampa Bay.
So I don't know if Bush Hamden's great or not, but I'm not giving Mark a pass for the offensive problems.
Yeah, we all know Stoop's brand of football.
And to play the way he wants to play, you can have the debate if that's the right way or not.
But just to do what he wants to do, you have to have a great offensive line.
and that doesn't seem to be the case this year at all.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, he likes to get a little bit of a lead, run the ball, play defense,
but if you've got a bad offensive line, I mean,
if this Kentucky team gets behind a touchdown or two at any game,
do we have any faith that, you know, at least what we've seen through two games?
What made me sad, Ryan, was when it was 176.
They scored to go up 176.
I thought, well, there's no way we can score enough to beat them now.
I mean, that's not a good place to be in.
No, as pathetic as our offense looked, I mean, it was so,
bad. They couldn't do anything.
Then like I said, they seemed unprepared.
Like they were aware that South Carolina had this great defensive line.
We're going to put all this pressure on them.
Yeah.
Who's up first, Shannon?
Football Freddie.
Football Freddie. How are you?
Hey, how are you?
So I've been a season ticket holder for going on 10 years now, so a majority of Stoops's tenure.
And what I saw on Saturday just makes me hesitant.
to even keep that anymore.
It's quite embarrassing the product that I'm going out to see every Saturday.
Let me ask you a question, Freddie, and this isn't to focus,
because somebody on the postgame show said the same thing.
I mean, do you really mean that?
Like, you don't want to go.
I mean, I'm sure if you've been a season ticket holder for a long time,
you get joy out of going.
And if you've been a season ticket holder for longer than 10 years,
you probably got joy out of seeing really bad teams.
Are you really, you really are not going to get joy.
You really want to give up your season football tickets
because right now it's down.
So, no, I probably won't get rid of the tickets.
I'll keep the tickets and sell them,
but I will not be there next week.
There's not a chance.
So you won't cut.
It's the number one team in the country.
And, you know, normally when you play the number one,
That doesn't happen very often.
You're just not interested.
Not interested.
And, you know, the thing is, and if you get the pulse of the fan base right now,
I guarantee you if you did a poll on Twitter, it would be very, you get the same result.
Yeah, I think you're probably, I think you're right.
I appreciate the call.
I don't totally understand the, there's a part of me that kind of goes, well, what are you going to do that's more fun than that?
What else you got going on?
But I do think people, to be fair, have.
more options now. They have a lot more things they can do, and the sense of this is our one time
to go to town probably isn't true as much anymore. But Drew, I think he's right. There are a lot of
people that feel that way. Yeah, especially, you know, the people that make a whole experience
out of setting up their tailgate, maybe you're not from Lexington. It's more than just a game.
It's an entire Saturday. So, you know, there are people that aren't willing to do that again this
Saturday like they did or whatever experience they normally do. If they dial it back because of their
expectations against Georgia. I wouldn't blame them. That's how
frustrating and disappointed last Saturday
was. Do you think we'll look back at Ryan
and see
you know the whole pony
up as a turning
point? I'm afraid we are
because that seems to we be the way
it's headed right now.
I think if it was any other
of our other home games Saturday other than
Georgia, if it was Auburn, Ohio,
Vandy or Louisville, you know, one of these other home games
I think that that guy may have a different attitude about
going to see this weekend. They just don't want to go see our team get kicked in the butt
two weeks in a row like that. And on national TV, first time we were on ABC. That's true.
That doesn't make it any better. Who's next? Let's go to Jerry. Jerry.
Jerry, go ahead, Jerry.
Hey, Matt. If you remember, I called you back in the spring when
students brought Wolf were back and this, what we saw Saturday is what I feared.
I mean, the guy isn't that great offensive line coach. He's a great recruiter, but he's not
great coaching guys up.
And I,
we're staring at the barrel of three and nine right now.
I haven't seen offensive line play that bad since
111 under Curry and 010 and 1 under Claiborne.
We got physically dominated and destroyed.
We got dominated.
It was,
and in South Carolina's got a good defensive line.
Don't get me wrong.
But they're not that good.
We had that one play where they had the freshman three guys tried to block him
and not one of them got him?
Yeah, I mean, they highlighted that.
A triple team got beat.
How does that happen?
I don't know.
I don't care if you're blocking Aaron Donald.
Your triple team is supposed to work.
And I'm just not that optimistic because I think the only solution for this
is a good new coach on the offensive line, which can't happen to the end of the year.
And, I mean, and I mean, Vendio kick our butt.
Yeah, I mean, you got a slow there.
Yeah, exactly.
If that's a key thing, you're exactly right.
If they go out and play like they did Saturday, we'll be three and nine.
I do think you have to, I mean, I appreciate the call.
One of the things that I had a huge Saturday,
I'm going to be interested to see what our fade-this records were
because I did very well gambling Saturday on the premise of
don't totally overreact to one game.
I mean, think about how many times people overreacted from week one.
First of all, us being a 10-point favorite.
And South Carolina barely beat an old dominion.
That was an overreaction.
Notre Dame overreaction, right?
Georgia Tech
goes and loses to Syracuse.
There's a lot of overreactions that happen.
What worries me, Ryan, is I'm not sure this is an overreaction about Kentucky
because it wasn't just we lost.
We looked awful.
It looked like we had lack of talent, lack of heart,
lack of preparation.
I think all that combined is why we're so mad and frustrated this week
after what we saw on Saturday.
If you go out and lose because you turn it over a bunch,
you miss some field goals.
some mistakes here and there.
You can pick yourself up and say we can clean that up.
But when your offensive line is just getting abused,
and it's, for the most part, a lot of veterans, a lot of experience,
the whole left side's been here several years together.
That's where it's like, well, how do you fix that?
That doesn't sound like a one-off situation for the entire line to be as bad.
That part's a whole lot harder.
When your seventh-year senior, who's probably your best offensive lineman on the team,
has a 5.0 grade.
Five out of 100, five.
I mean, oh, boy.
That's not a fluky walls.
I think we could put anyone at KSR outside of Billy and we could do a five.
Billy would get a three, but I feel like the rest of us would get a five.
And we talked about how there was not a whole lot of depth at the O line,
and then you see Jagger and Mincy both go out at one point.
But I will say the substitutes were ranked.
Our three worst-rated linemen were the starters.
Were they really?
Yeah, the sub- Dylan Ray was our second highest-rated guy.
Wow.
So, I don't know.
Who's next?
It's going to read.
Reed.
How are you read?
Well, Indiana and morning.
I've got this down to a minute, Matt, so please give you minutes.
We're not doing a minute.
There's not a minute.
I'll give you 30 seconds.
Okay.
The issue is direction.
In the early days, we can see the improvement.
We traded a signed Jenser for Wolford, who developed Alabama's worst line in 20 years.
We got a quarterback
portal who hadn't played
at least Leary had.
We thought Stoops was a defensive
back genius.
How do you explain that?
The real issues the future meant
fire Stoops mid-season.
Make Brad White the head coach
and save Vince.
Do you have the money?
Do you have the money to pay the buyout?
Well, where's the 40s?
We better get the money.
Otherwise, we're doing to...
So you've got to stop.
I'm not doing this again after we did it with Cal.
It's $47 million.
Do you have that?
Because the U.K. doesn't.
No, we don't.
UK doesn't.
And when you say we better, who?
Who's paying it?
Well, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a,
how much are you chipping in?
I'll put up 50 bucks.
Okay, so we got a long way to go.
We got 46, 990,9,9,950.
I mean, I appreciate.
That's right.
I don't even think that's something that we need to think about,
A, because we're two games in season,
but B, I don't care if you think it's a great idea yet.
We don't have the money.
Like, you know, we don't live in a fantasy world.
Like, just with Cal, you don't live in a fantasy world where $47 million drops from the sky.
I mean, like, the reality is what makes it much harder is that situations like that don't exist, true.
It does feel like there's a lot of parallels with what we just did with basketball right now.
Yes, it does.
A lot.
Yeah, no, I think there are.
I feel like we're having a lot of the same conversations.
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One person writes, what may be worried about the game is not just that we lost.
Stoops' tone of voice after sounds like a pretty dejected guy.
Nothing to build on.
Yeah.
You don't hear him like that a lot.
There was, it felt like some dejection.
Usually it's let's go back to work.
Actually, every time it's let's go back to work, but this time he couldn't find anything to build on.
He speaks twice today, right?
He speaks to come up at noon and then tonight the coach's show.
Yeah, the coaches show.
All that's going to be very interesting.
One person right, Matt, the only thing.
the only thing worse than the game were the ticket lines trying to get in the game.
How in 2024 has it gotten worse?
There were people out in the parking lot until 15 minutes away.
I saw some of those lines.
I don't think it was, I don't know if it was like that for every entrance,
but there were some lines that were just outrageously long.
I don't really know how that keeps happening.
I took a bunch of pictures.
I was up at the front of the top level and I was kind of taking it looking down.
I couldn't believe how long the lines were either shortly before kickoff.
You know, some of the lightning stuff obviously was beyond UK's control.
But, you know, part of what I think may have some of the frustration is the actual going to the game experiences have not been wonderful these first two weeks.
Just, you know, forget about the product on the field, just going.
Now, I will say, it seemed like the atmosphere was great.
I don't, I mean, on television, it was absolutely beautiful with the blue sky.
Yes.
And the blue in the stands.
I just thought visually it was a really beautiful.
beautiful scene, but I don't know that everybody thought it was the best experience.
I did two hours of tailgating. It was so great out there. There's so much optimism.
Even the few South Carolina fans we saw are like, oh, you know, we're not looking forward to this one.
You know, normally there's a little back and forth. South Carolina fans were kind of surrendering going
into the game. Heck, my seats were actually in the South Carolina section, so I watched the first
quarter with them. They did not think it was going to go that way, but it quickly did.
Yeah. It was a perfect day for football. It was awesome.
He just didn't go out and get it done on the field.
Not at all.
Who's next?
Let's go to Trevor.
Trevor.
Trevor, how are you, Trevor?
Is it bad that they just showed?
Is it bad they just showed the preview for the promo for the video music awards?
Can you hear me?
Best video.
Yes, sir, just a second.
And they said best video of the year and I'd never heard of any of the five videos
that are up for best video of the year.
We're old.
I didn't see it.
I suspect that's not good.
All right, go ahead.
I'd be interested to see what was talked about in that locker room at half time
because they came out in the third quarter and they just looked like the lifeman stuck out of it.
What's weird is, okay, we're we played terrible in the first half, but we're only down 10 to 6.
Yeah.
Right?
We're only down 10 to 6.
We stopped them on their first drive.
Uh-huh.
So we have the ball down 10 to 6, and I thought to myself, go down here and score and you probably win this.
game.
I did too.
Right?
Like you'll go down here and score.
You got a really, really good shot of winning the game.
And then all of a sudden, it's like the whole thing just collapsed, sir.
Yeah.
And I'm still believing in Stoots, but I think he needs to write a lot of fire under these guys' butts.
And I think that's what we're missing because we were coached to lose that game, at my opinion.
Because I know we have the talent.
I know we have the talent to beat it.
And the offensive line was not the greatest.
You know, I understand that was.
That's true.
Yeah.
And we got some big, some men, some grown-ass men.
We got to stop next week.
And that offensive line probably ain't going to do it.
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
You're going to have to, I appreciate the call.
You're going to have to scheme up some stuff on offense because you're not going to be,
you're not going to be able to block, Georgia.
I will say our defensive line played pretty well.
Our linebackers played pretty well.
Our secondary, you know.
Had some problems.
Had some problems.
Kick.
I mean, we fumbled.
You know, we fumbled the ball three times in the first.
And then they got that look back in the second half
because they would fumble it would bounce right back to them.
They even got positive yards on a strip sack, I think,
where the running back picked it up and ran it forward a little bit.
I mean, Dion was wrecking people.
It's a shame that, you know, it didn't amount to anything
because he had a good game.
Trying to think Demi Sumo Karnbe had a pretty good game.
I mean, there were a few people that played well,
but it just did no good overall.
I mean, we got a lot of pressure on their quarterback, a lot.
and he didn't play well.
We had two complete coverage.
I mean, most of their offense was two coverage breakdowns where guys ended up wide open.
That was the old school stoop's area where you look up and you look up and
like, how's that receiver got 30 yards in each direction around?
Yeah, I mean, just huge coverage mistakes.
That was honestly a big part of what happened.
Yeah, secondary had some issues and those were glaring mistakes because they led to a,
that one was a wide open touchdown the guy had.
Had a backup quarterback come in and complete a long pass.
You know, we love the backup quarterbacks.
That felt good, too.
Who's next?
Matt.
Matt.
Go ahead, Matt.
Hey, guys.
I was watching the game on Saturday, and I noticed a lot of zone blocking, a lot of double
teams on the interior lineman on the defensive side.
And I think that's why we had a lot of guys get through and really destroy our quarterback.
I don't know what you guys think about that.
Yeah, I'm not going to act like I'm smart enough to know when they were zone blocking or not.
I will say, you know, let's talk about the offensive line coach for a second.
I appreciate.
You know, he was here.
one good year, second year terrible.
Freddie especially was not a fan when he was here.
He leaves, he goes to Alabama, leaves like in the middle of the night.
Doesn't even tell him he's going.
Like literally, he's announced his Alabama coach before the Kentucky people even knew he was talking to him.
Wasn't he out recruiting for Kentucky?
He was recruiting Kentucky when he took the job, didn't come home.
Coach's Alabama for a year, they give up more sacks last year than any other team in the SEC at Alabama,
which seems crazy and then comes back this year was bringing him back Ryan a mistake.
You know, there were whispers that when they hired him that this was just a Jeff Ruby hire.
This is the guy, their friend, you know, not really necessarily bringing back as a coach, brought him back as a friend.
And I think.
Well, don't blame, I mean, it's not Jeff.
I don't think you should put it on Jeff Ruby as a person.
You make it sound like he did it.
I think you're talking about that it was a social high.
Yes.
Okay, that's probably better work.
Jeff Rubies.
Okay.
Still, I would just say social, I think, would be the way to go.
So, you know, you're right, that second year, when he left here, the door was kind of open.
I mean, things weren't going well.
And he was criticized for not developing a lot of depth, you know, and we saw all the results of that.
Now they're bringing back.
Yeah.
This hires on Frank and Dino, both of them.
All the restaurants downtown.
You know, the problem is Domino's.
They're always hiring our wide receiver.
coaches and it's causing problems.
It was a weird hire.
We all just kind of had to trust Stoops because Stoops is like, it's fine.
It's like, well, I mean, he's the one that has to work with him.
So if it's fine with him, I guess it's okay.
But they were furious when he left.
Furious at him.
I mean, I guess the history and friendship helps you get through, but they were furious at him.
And he didn't do a good job when he was here.
No.
And then to just like get old.
I mean, you know, they just turned it off and said it was like a light switch and didn't
worry about it.
Stoops didn't him say this at the time, but he said it months later in an interview that he in over, like, room together at one of their first jobs making nothing.
You know, those old stories where you're sleeping on floors eating the cafeteria.
Maybe that's what got him through.
So, yeah, they have a long connection, but I'm not seeing what his coaching is the reason to have him back.
Shannon, I ask you to try to keep Ryan in line.
Like that's supposed to be your job.
Oh, it is?
It's my job.
It's not supposed to go around going, oh, it's Brad's fault.
Like, I mean, you know.
Ryan thought it was public knowledge.
That's the thing about him, you know.
Yeah, you never know with Ryan.
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A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman.
Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets.
a billion dollar fraud.
But how long can this alliance last?
Tell me what you know.
Is somebody coming after me?
Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, what's good, y'all?
You're listening to Learn the Hardway with your favorite therapist and host Care Games.
This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that's really not safe to have anywhere,
but you're having him with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing.
How many men carry a suit are armored.
It signals to the world that you're not to be played with.
And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to.
Listen to learn the hard way on the AHA radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
It's the enhanced games.
Some call it grotesque.
Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
